>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
APRIL 15th, 2026 LAND-USE AND
SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE MEETING
WILL COME TO ORDER. IT IS NINE
CLIENT 32 A.M. WELL THE
COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE?
>> VICE CHAIR STRAUSS.
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER.
COUNCILPERSON HOLLINGSWORTH.
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. CHAIR LIN.
VICE CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. SURE, THERE ARE
FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT.
>> IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING
NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. IN MORNING, EVERYONE,
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TO THIS
WEDNESDAY MORNING MEETING FOR
LAND-USE THANK YOU TO OUR
CLERKS, MAYOR'S OFFICE, [
INAUDIBLE ]. WE WILL NOW OPEN
THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD
RELATE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR
ITEMS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS
COMMITTEE. [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> WE HAVE 24 IN PERSON SPEAKERS
AND 14 REMOTE.
>> OKAY. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE ,
UM, BETWEEN 30 AND 60 SPEAKERS,
THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE ONE
MINUTE PER SPEAKER. WE WILL
START WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS
FIRST. CLARK, CAN YOU PLEASE
READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT
INSTRUCTIONS?
>> [ INAUDIBLE ] WILL BE
MODERATED IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER. [ INAUDIBLE ] REGISTERED
IN PERSON SPEAKERS WILL BE
CALLED FIRST, AFTER WHICH WE
WILL MOVE TO REMOTE SPEAKERS. [
INAUDIBLE ] WENT 10 SECONDS ARE
LEFT OF THEIR TIME. [ INAUDIBLE
] THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
NOW OPEN AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST,
THAT IS ANGELA [ INAUDIBLE ].
CASTANEDA.
>> THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME,
COUNCILMEMBERS LIN, RINCK, AND
FOSTER. AS A GIRL GROWING UP IN
SEATTLE, I EXPERIENCED AN
UNSTABLE HOME SITUATION AND
BECAME ONE OF THE SEATTLE STREET
KIDS. I DEALT WITH SO MUCH.
LEARNING TO SURVIVE ON MY OWN,
NOT ALWAYS IN SAFE SITUATIONS,
AND I COULD HAVE SO EASILY NOT
MADE IT OUT. THE INEQUALITY GAP
BETWEEN THE HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS
CONTINUES TO SURGE. THE
SITUATION DEMANDS CITY LEADERS
BE VIGILANT AND DISCERNING. AT
THE POPULATION MIX IS
COMPLICATED, AND THOSE LIKE ME
WHO HAVE FACED INSTABILITY,
THOSE WHO FIND THEMSELVES DOWN
ON THEIR LUCK, AND THOSE WHO
NEED TREATMENT. THE SITUATION
DEMANDS THAT CITY LEADERS ACT TO
PRIORITIZE HIGH SUPPORT SHELTER
AND PATHWAYS FOR TRANSITIONAL TO
PERMANENT HOUSING AS
CENTERPIECES OF THE CITY'S
RAPID SHELTER EXPANSION. FOR
NOW, I AM ONE OF THE HAVES WITH
A ROOF OVER MY HEAD AND A
LEADERSHIP POSITION IN A
NONPROFIT, SERVING SMALL
BUSINESS COMMUNITIES IN
SOUTHEAST SEATTLE. BUT I STILL
SEE THROUGH MY KID EYES HOW WE
ARE ALL IMPACTED EVERY DAY BY
THE EVER-INCREASING POPULATION
OF UNDERSERVED. [ INAUDIBLE ]
SEATTLE COMMITS TO RESOURCING
NEW SHELTERS WITH INTENSIVE CARE
MANAGEMENT, ENSURING AT LEAST
TWO STAFF ON SITE ON A 24/7
BASIS AND ROUND-THE-CLOCK
AVAILABILITY [ INAUDIBLE ].
>> THANK YOU, ANGELA. AND IF
ANYONE -- IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO
COMPLETE YOUR TESTIMONY, PLEASE
FEEL FREE TO EMAIL US THE
REMAINDER. APOLOGIES FOR THE
SHORT TIME PERIOD FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT, THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SEVERAL SPEAKERS
WILL BE IN ORDER, JESSICA ROWE,
KURT, BRIAN WALTERS, AND [
INAUDIBLE ].
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK, I'M JESSICA ROWE,
LAND-USE ATTORNEY, SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF MRH. WE ARE HERE TO
ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
LEGISLATION. RAH OWNS PROPERTY
WITHIN THE VILLAGE, AND IT'S
NOT WITHIN THE MAKE, BUT IT'S
CURRENTLY ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL.
I WANT TO SAY ALSO, THE EXISTING
INDUSTRIAL STAYS ON THESE
PROPERTIES IS CURRENTLY
UNDERUTILIZED AND STRUGGLES TO
RETAIN TENANTS. BUT
ALTERNATIVELY IT WITH THIS
REASON, THEY CAN PROVIDE OVER
300 UNITS OF HOUSING , AND
RESIDENTIAL IS ALREADY PERMITTED
JUST ONE BLOCK NORTH. THIS IS A
GREAT PLACE TO BUILD HOUSING AND
GROW THE VIBRANCY OF THE STONE
WAY CORRIDOR, THEREFORE WE WOULD
ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, KIRK.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, KIRK [
INAUDIBLE ] WITH [ INAUDIBLE ].
WE ARE LONG-TERM FAMILIES THAT
OWN AND OPERATE AND BUILD IN THE
SEATTLE MARKETPLACE. WE ARE
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ,
SOME NEW MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS.
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT NEXT TO
BELL STREET EXTENSION TO BE THE
NORTHSTAR, IF YOU WILL, TO
WATERFRONT SEATTLE. AND WE WILL
TALK FURTHER, OUR ARCHITECT WAS
SPEAK FURTHER OF THIS PROJECT AS
WELL. THANK YOU. I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND FOR
FOLKS, FEEL FREE TO USE ANY OF
THE MICROPHONES. THAT ARE BETTER
SUITED FOR YOU.
>> THE NEXT COUPLE SPEAKERS WILL
BE BRIAN WALTERS, SAM WOLF,
MITCHELL, ALEX LOFTON, AND
REBECCA ROSE. NEXT UP IS BRIAN
WALTERS. NOT SEEING BRIAN. WE
WILL MOVE TO SAM WOLF.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY
NAME IS SAM WOLF AND I WORK FOR
PDA, WE HOUSE THE [ INAUDIBLE ]
PROGRAM, ONE OF SEATTLE'S HIGH
SHELTER SUPPORT PROGRAMS. IN THE
PAST FEW WEEKS, YOU HAVE HEARD
FROM A COUPLE PARTICIPANTS, AS
WELL AS NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE NEAR
COMPANY SITES. VARIOUS CUSTOMER
SATISFACTION STORIES. NONE OF
THESE STORIES [ INAUDIBLE ] ARE
ROOTED IN PROGRAM DESIGN. THIS
PROGRAM DESIGN INCLUDES NOT JUST
TALENTED CASE MANAGERS, BUT
HAVING CASELOADS SET AT 12 TO 15
PARTICIPANTS PER CASE MANAGER.
THIS IS THE FIDELITY STANDARD
FOR INTENSIVE CASELOADS. THE
GOLD STANDARD FOR WORKING WITH
PEOPLE WITH COMPLEX NEEDS. WITH
RESEARCH SHOWS IT REPRESENTS
OVER 60% OF PEOPLE LIVING
UNSHELTERED TODAY. [ INAUDIBLE ]
SUCCESS ALSO HINGES ON HAVING
24/7 ACCESS TO SAFETY AND
DE-ESCALATION TEAMS WERE CAPABLE
OF PROBLEM-SOLVING ISSUES IN [
INAUDIBLE ] SITES. THESE
FEATURES ARE WHAT ENABLE SHELTER
PROVIDERS TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS
WHO ARE VERY FREQUENTLY
UNDERFUNDED [ INAUDIBLE ]. THIS
MUST CHANGE BOTH FOR
PARTICIPANTS OR NEIGHBORS ALIKE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT [ INAUDIBLE ], BEEN
MITCHELL.
>> HI, GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
BEEN MITCHELL, I AM A DISTRICT 2
RESIDENT AND I WITH THE
ORGANIZATION, FOR SEATTLE. I AM
HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT YOU PASS
THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
PACKAGE. THIS LEGISLATION WILL
HELP CREATE THE CONDITIONS TO
GET APARTMENT CONSTRUCTION
MOVING AGAIN. WHEN WE WERE THE
FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE
COUNTRY, WE MISSED OPPORTUNITY
WITH OUR LAND-USE POLICY TO
HARNESS THE GROWTH AND ALLOW
HOUSING SUPPLY TO MEET DEMAND.
WE LEFT TAX REVENUE ON THE
TABLE, ALLOW HOME PRICES TO
SOAR, AND CREATED CUTTHROAT
COMPETITION OVER EXISTING HOMES.
NOW WE ARE IN AN ENVIRONMENT
WHERE APPLICATIONS TO ADD NEW
HOMES IN SEATTLE ARE DOWN 88%
FROM THEIR 2020 PEAK AND WE NEED
TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO GET
APARTMENT CONSTRUCTION MOVING
AGAIN. THIS HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE DOES JUST
THAT. PLEASE GRAB THIS LOW
HANGING FRUIT, PAST THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE ALEX LOFTON.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS,
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. MY NAME
IS ALEX LOFTON, RESIDENT OF
DISTRICT 3 IN THE CD, HELPING [
INAUDIBLE ]. I AM ASKING YOU TO
MOVE FORWARD THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE. I'VE
SPENT THE LAST DECADE BUILDING A
COMPANY, HELPING PEOPLE LIKE
NURSES, TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS
BE ABLE TO AFFORD BUYING HOMES
AND COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.
ONE THING I LEARNED FROM THAT
WORK IS YOU CAN DO ALL THE
INNOVATION AND FINANCE YOU WANT,
BUT [ INAUDIBLE ] HOMES TO BUY,
THEN THEY KEEP GOING TO FOLKS
WHO OUTBID THE FOLKS [ INAUDIBLE
] ENOUGH MONEY FOR DOWN PAYMENT.
SO, [ INAUDIBLE ] IS WHAT I WAS
ACTUALLY AT BLOCKING MORE HOMES
FROM BEING ADDED TO SPECIFICALLY
ZONING RESTRICTIONS TO PREVENT
MORE HOMES FROM BEING BUILT. [
INAUDIBLE ] AND ALLOWING MORE
EMPTY BUILDINGS SITTING TO
BECOME HOMES. SO, THIS IS REALLY
JUST ABOUT WHO GETS TO LIVE
HERE, NOT JUST WHO CAN OUTBID [
INAUDIBLE ]. EVERYONE COULD SO,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PLEASE MOVE
IT FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S OUR NEXT
BEAKERS IN ORDER WILL BE REBECCA
ROSE, [ INAUDIBLE ], RUTH, AND
TREVOR READ.
>> HI, GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
BECCA ROSE, I'M A DISTRICT 2
RESIDENT, A MEMBER OF FOR
SEATTLE, A FOURTH-GENERATION
SEATTLEITE I AM HERE TO SUPPORT
[ INAUDIBLE ]. PRESERVING THE
LOCAL CHARACTER OF SEATTLE AND
THERE IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF
LOCAL CHARACTER THAT I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT TODAY WHICH IS I
REMEMBER A SEATTLE WHEN THE
PEOPLE WHO MADE THE CITY RUN
COULD AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. THE
BARTENDERS, THE TEACHERS, THE
ARTIST , THE SOCIAL WORKERS
COULD AFFORD TO BE OUR
NEIGHBORS. AND THE FACT THAT
THEY CAN'T ANYMORE IS A HUGE
LOSS OF CHARACTER [ INAUDIBLE ].
SO, I SUPPORT HOP BECAUSE ZONING
CREATES DENSITY, WHICH CREATES
SUPPLY, WHICH CREATES
AFFORDABILITY. SO, I AM ASKING
YOU ALL TO ALSO SUPPORT HOP AND
MOVE IT OVER, TO THE PEOPLE WHO
MAKE THE CITY RUN CAN AFFORD TO
LIVE HERE AND ONE DAY, MY KIDS
CAN AFFORD TO BE
FIFTH-GENERATION SEATTLEITES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY
NAME IS [ INAUDIBLE ], I'M A
RESIDENT OF MOUNT BAKER AND I
WORK IN PRIMARY CARE. I'M ALSO
A FOUNDING MEMBER OF FOR
SEATTLE. I AM ASKING YOU TO MOVE
THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES ZONING
AMENDMENTS FORWARD TODAY. OVER
THE PAST 10 YEARS, I HAVE SEEN
MULTIPLE HEALTHCARE WORKERS
LEAVE SEATTLE BECAUSE THEY COULD
NO LONGER AFFORD HOUSING HERE.
LAST YEAR, WE HAD TO SAY GOODBYE
TO CLOSE FRIENDS OF OURS , ONE A
SOCIAL WORKER AND ANOTHER A HOME
HEALTH NURSE, WHO LEFT SEATTLE
BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD A
DECENT PLACE TO LIVE. I MISS THE
-- THEM AND THEIR PATIENTS MISS
THEM, TOO. I WANT TO LIVE IN A
CITY THAT ATTRACTS AND RETAINS
HEALTHCARE WORKERS, AND
INCREASING HOUSING SUPPLY IS A
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
PLEASE VOTE THIS BILL FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT COUPLE SPEAKERS WILL
BE RUTH, STEVE, MIKE BROWN, AND
MATT.
>> I AM HERE TO BRING YOUR
ATTENTION ONCE MORE TO TWO
HIGH-LEVEL STUDIES THAT CAME OUT
AFTER THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN WAS
ADOPTED, ONE FROM THE NATIONAL
BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH
TITLED SUPPLY CONSTRAINTS BY THE
ZONING DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS,
DO NOT EXPLAIN HOW STRESS AND
QUANTITY GROWTH. AND THE OTHER
FROM [ INAUDIBLE ] SCHOOL OF
ECONOMICS TITLED INEQUALITY ,
NOT REGULATION DRIVES AMERICAN
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
NOTABLY, THEY FIND AFFORDABILITY
IS MOST CHALLENGING IN REGIONS
LIKE SEATTLE WHERE INDIVIDUALS
WITH STAGNANT WAGES COMPETE WITH
CONCENTRATIONS OF HIGH INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS WITH LIMITED LAND ,
LOCATIONS, AND AMENITIES. THEY
URGED NEW THINKING ABOUT HOUSING
SYSTEMS. AND THE TARGET MODERATE
AND LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS [
INAUDIBLE ] RATHER THAN RELYING
ON ZONING AND FILTERING. WE
BELIEVE MASS OF ZONING AND
DEREGULATION WILL SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPROVE AFFORDABILITY, THESE
STUDIES SAY . WE ARE
DISAPPOINTED. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, MY NAME
IS TREVOR READ AND I AM A
LAND-USE PLANNER AND I AM HERE
WITH FOR SEATTLE TO SPEAK IN
FAVOR OF THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES ZONING AMENDMENTS.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, PERMITTING [
INAUDIBLE ] HAVE HIT NEW LOWS,
EXACERBATING OUR HOUSING CRISIS.
THIS LEGISLATION WILL [
INAUDIBLE ] PROVIDING AN EATING
BOOTH TO HOUSING PRODUCTION AND
[ INAUDIBLE ]. PLEASE ADOPT THIS
PRAGMATIC AND COMMON SENSE
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> A BIG LIE WITH A LOT OF MONEY
BEHIND IT GOES ON FOREVER. I
SALUTE SEATTLE'S LAND-USE
POLICY. LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RESULTS.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IS
NOT NUMBER OF UNITS, IT'S
AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND THE
HOUSING POLICIES OF SEATTLE
CONTINUE TO RIP OUT THE
AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND IF WE
CONTINUE DOING THAT, WE WILL
CONTINUE TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON
THE STREET. NOW, THE [ INAUDIBLE
] HOUSES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
JUDGED ON THAT, HOW WELL THE
SECURITY IS AROUND THEM. THE
LAST CONSOLE, YOU SEE A LOT OF
TURNOVER IN THE CITY. AND UNTIL
WE GET SOME STABILITY IN THE
CITY, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
MORE AND MORE OF THAT
CONTINUING. BUT WHAT WE MUST DO
IS RAISE THE MHA FEES, WE MUST
STOP KNOCKING DOWN THE UNITS
THAT ACTUALLY ARE AFFORDABLE. WE
HAVE TO MAKE IT UNAFFORDABLE TO
DESTROY THE AFFORDABLE. WE
DON'T WANT TO DO --
>> THANK YOU, STEVE.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE MIKE BROWN,
FOLLOWED BY MATT DAYS, JESSE
SORRENTO'S, ELIZABETH, AND LISA
OLMSTED THOMPSON.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY
NAME IS MIKE BROWN, I AM A
REPRESENTATIVE WITH THE NORTH
COAST STATES CARPENTERS UNION,
AND WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
CB 121196. THIS IS ABOUT MORE
THAN JUST HOUSING, IT IS ABOUT
CREATING REAL, LIKE CHANGING
CAREERS. WE ARE ACTIVELY
TRAINING CONSTRUCTION WORKERS
AND CONTRACTORS IN MASSIVE
TIMBER CONSTRUCTION, WITH
HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE THAT
PREPARES PEOPLE FOR WHAT IS
NEXT. THAT MEANS OPPORTUNITIES.
ESPECIALLY IN AREAS AND
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE NOT ALWAYS
HAD ACCESS TO THESE CAREERS. WE
ARE CREATING PATHWAYS INTO
APPRENTICESHIPS TO MAKE SURE
THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE REAL.
WHEN WE MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD,
WE ARE INVESTING IN PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MATT
DAVIES, I AM REPRESENTING THE
NORTH COAST STATES APARTMENT
REGIME. I SPEAK IN STRONG FAVOR
OF CB 121196. RIGHT NOW,
WASHINGTON IS LEADING THE NATION
IN CONSTRUCTION [ INAUDIBLE ],
AND HERE IN SEATTLE, THEY ARE
KILLING IT BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
HOUSING PRODUCTION IS SLOWING
DOWN AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SIT
ON THAT. CB 121196 IS ABOUT
GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK AND
GETTING HOUSING BUILT. IT
REMOVES BARRIERS TO MODERN
BUILDING METHODS LIKE MASS
TIMBER AND MODULAR CONSTRUCTION.
HELPING US BUILD FASTER AND
SMARTER. [ INAUDIBLE ] SEATTLE
PRE-NEW DEAL, INVESTING IN
INFRASTRUCTURE, REDUCING THE
OMISSIONS, AND MAKING SURE
OVERWORKED, OVERBURDEN
COMMUNITIES BENEFIT. IT ALSO
CONNECTS TO [ INAUDIBLE ] ,
SECTION 6, BY CREATING ACCESS TO
APPRENTICESHIP PATHWAYS AND
INCLUSIVE WORKFORCE
OPPORTUNITIES. WE ARE ALREADY
TRAINING FOR THIS WORK, THE
WORKFORCE IS READY, WE JUST NEED
THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. AND LET THE RECORD
SHOW THAT [ INAUDIBLE ]
HOLLINGSWORTH IS JOINING US,
THANK YOU.
>> NOW WE HAVE JESSE SORRENTO'S,
FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH, AND LISA
OLMSTED.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS,
MY NAME IS JESSE [ INAUDIBLE ].
WASHINGTON IS LEADING THE NATION
IN CONSTRUCTION JOB [ INAUDIBLE
] BUT HOUSING PRODUCTION HAS
SLOWED DOWN, THAT IS NOT
SOMETHING WE CAN SIT ON. CB
121196 IS ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE
BACK TO WORK AND GETTING HOUSING
BUILT. THIS LEGISLATION WILL
REMOVE BARRIERS TO MODERN
BUILDING METHODS LIKE MASS
TIMBER AND MODULAR CONSTRUCTION.
THE TOOLS THAT HELP US BUILD
FASTER AND SMARTER. FOR THE
NORTH COAST STATES REGIONAL
COUNCIL PARTNERS, WE ARE ALREADY
TRAINING CONTRACTORS . WE ARE
NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, WE
ARE PREPARING FOR IT RIGHT NOW,
THAT MEANS REAL OPPORTUNITIES,
GOOD PAYING JOBS, ACCESS TO
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, AND
PATHWAYS INTO [ INAUDIBLE ] THAT
LEAD TO LONG-TERM CAREERS. [
INAUDIBLE ] WE JUST NEED THE
OPPORTUNITY. WE URGE YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ELIZABETH L WORD.
>> GOOD MORNING. [ INAUDIBLE ] I
AM HERE TO SUPPORT HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE. I'M
JOINED HERE BY OTHER MEMBERS OF
THE FOR SEATTLE PROJECT, AN
ORGANIZATION WHOSE GOAL IS TO
PROMOTE COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS
TO SOME OF THE CITY'S MOST [
INAUDIBLE ] PROBLEMS BUT AS A
VOLUNTEER OF THE WEST SEATTLE
NEIGHBORS SHELTER, I SEE THE
EFFECT OF HOUSING SHORTAGE
FACE-TO-FACE. EXPERTS STUDYING
HOMELESSNESS AGREE THAT THE MOST
BASIC SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS
IS MORE HOUSING, AND A MAJOR
IMPEDIMENT TO MORE HOUSING IN
PLACES LIKE SEATTLE IS EXCESSIVE
REGULATION. HOP WILL MAKE COMMON
SENSE MODIFICATIONS TO ZONING
REGULATIONS AND PROVIDE
CONSTRUCTION INCENTIVES THAT
WILL LEAD TO MORE AFFORDABLE
CHOICES IN HOUSING. [ INAUDIBLE
] AND MOVE IT FORWARD.
>> LISA OLMSTED THOMPSON.
>> MY NAME IS LISA OLMSTED
THOMPSON , I AM A RESIDENT AND
ALSO WITH FOR SEATTLE. I ASK
THAT YOU PASS THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE. I AM A
PARENT OF YOUNG KIDS, AND AS WE
ARE GROWING OUR COMMUNITY, MORE
FAMILIES ARE SHARING WITH US
THEY ARE CONSIDERING LEAVING
BECAUSE THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO
FIND THE SPACES THEY NEED FOR
THEIR FAMILIES. PEOPLE WANT TO
LIVE HERE. I WANT NEIGHBORS IN
CITY RESIDENTS WHO ARE ROOTED IN
THIS COMMUNITY. THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE WILL HELP
MAKE THIS HAPPEN, IT WILL ALLOW
MORE HOME CHOICE, SO MORE PEOPLE
CAN FIND A PLACE TO LIVE HERE.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WILL
CREATE MORE COMMUNITIES THAT
WANT THE BEST FOR THE CITY
BECAUSE IT IS THEIR HOME. THE
POLICY [ INAUDIBLE ]. LET'S
DRIVE IT HOME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS BOB,
[ INAUDIBLE ] COMMENTS TO YOU
HERE. I AM HERE TALKING TO
MYSELF, AS WELL AS FOR THE
SEATTLE [ INAUDIBLE ], AND WE
ARE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS
FOR HOP. THE RATIONALE THAT I
BRING TO THIS IS I LOOK AT MY
CHILDREN AND THEIR GENERATION,
WHO ARE FACING SO MUCH MORE OF
AN UPHILL CLIMB THEN MY WIFE AND
I EVER DID WHEN WE MOVED TO
SEATTLE 30 YEARS AGO, AND WE
THINK THAT HOUSING IS THE
LINCHPIN TO A LOT OF THE ISSUES
FACING THIS GENERATION, SO WE
ASK YOU TO START CHIPPING AWAY
AT THOSE ISSUES BY PASSING THESE
AMENDMENTS AND CONTINUING TO
LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO
MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER AND MAKE
SEATTLE THE GREAT STATE WE ALL
WANT IT TO BE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE JESSE,
FOLLOWED BY CAROLYN VILLANOVA.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR LIN AND
COUNCIL. I AM JUST, A VALID
HOMEOWNER, WANTS TO MAKE ROOM
FOR MORNING BIRDS IN THIS
WONDERFUL CITY McCALLUM. I'M
HERE WITH FOR SEATTLE TO ASK YOU
TO MOVE THAT HOP FORWARD. AS WE
ARE ALL AWARE, WE HAVE A
SHORTAGE OF HOUSING HERE IN
SEATTLE. HOP IS THE KIND OF
RESPONSE THAT WE SHOULD
ADVERTISE. LEGISLATION THAT HAS
ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED AND
REVIEWED AND CAN KICKSTART
PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO. I
HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A
BETTER COMP PLAN FOR OVER A YEAR
NOW, AND WHILE THAT IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION WILL GUIDE OUR
ABILITY TO [ INAUDIBLE ], I KNOW
IT IS UNLIKELY TO UNLOCK HOUSING
WITH THE IMMEDIACY THAT WE NEED,
THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
MOVE H.O.P. FORWARD. WE NEED TO
[ INAUDIBLE ] AND RESPOND TO THE
MOMENT WITH URGENCY. H.O.P. [
INAUDIBLE ]. I SEE IT AS A WIN,
WIN, WIN. A WIN FOR
AFFORDABILITY, FOR MORE CHOICES,
AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO LIVE
IN SEATTLE [ INAUDIBLE ]. NO,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
CONTINUED WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT WE HAVE CAROLYN
VILLANOVA.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, AND
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COMMENT
TODAY. MY NAME IS CAROLINE
VILLANOVA AND I AM THE DIRECTOR
OF GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AND
COMMUNITY IMPACT OF THE SEATTLE
PARKS FOUNDATION. WE ARE FULLY
SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEED FOR
ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN THIS CITY.
FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE
RESIDENTS. A LIVABLE CITY IS ONE
WHERE FAMILIES CAN THRIVE, AND
IF YOU DESIGN WITH KIDS IN MIND,
YOU NEED TO CONSIDER SAFETY ,
PLAY, AND ACCESS TO NATURE.
PLEASE REQUIRE PUBLIC SPACE AND
PUBLIC AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS WHEN
CONSIDERING EVERY REGIONAL AREA
AND NEIGHBORHOOD AREA PLAN,
BECAUSE THESE ARE PLANTS WHERE
PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY THE
CITY READ AND ALSO, IS
CONSIDERED TYING PUBLIC AMENITY
IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS PARKS LIKE
CAL ANDERSON LID PARKED AT THE
LAST COMP PLAN , CONSIDERING
REZONING. SO, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS WILL
BE IN ORDER, LISA, JASMINE
SMITH, CAROL WILLIAMS, AND MARTA
.
>> HI, I'M LISA, THANK YOU FOR
LETTING ME SPEAK THIS MORNING. I
AM HERE TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT CB
121195 FOR SHELTER EXPANSION. I
CHAIR THE DOWNTOWN SEATTLE
ASSOCIATION'S STREET HOUSING
INITIATIVE, AND THIS IS THE
MOMENT FOR US TO ACT ON
HOMELESSNESS. I APPLAUD THE
MAYOR FOR STICKING A STAKE IN
THE GROUND AND SAYING YOU'RE
GOING TO DO THIS AND DO IT NOW
TOGETHER, AND I APPLAUD THE
COUNCIL FOR PARTNERING WITH THE
MAYOR ON THIS AND CLEARING OFF [
INAUDIBLE ] TO DO WHAT MANY,
MANY CITIES HAVE BEEN DOING ALL
OVER THE COUNTRY. SEATTLE HAS
EXPERIENCED A PROFESSIONAL [
INAUDIBLE ]. WE HAVE EXCELLENT
MANUFACTURERS, WE HAVE HIGHLY
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, SUPPORT
PROVIDERS, AND WE ALL RECOGNIZE
THAT WITH SCALING THE SOLUTION
TO HOMELESSNESS, THERE IS A
MANDATE FOR EVERY SINGLE VILLAGE
TO MODEL EXCELLENT GOOD NEIGHBOR
PRACTICES. AND IMPORTANTLY FOR
ALL NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO THE
SAME. THANK YOU TO THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR YOUR CARING AND
THOUGHTFUL ACTION TO MOVE NOW ON
MAKING THE PROLIFERATION OF
DESPERATELY NEEDED MICRO UNIT
VILLAGES POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU, LISA.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE JASMINE
SMITH.
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
JASMINE SMITH, I AM DIRECTOR OF
LOCAL ADVOCACY AT FUTURE RISE, A
DISTRICT 7 RESIDENT. I AM HERE
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITY PACKAGE.
BECAUSE AS WE LOOK
COMPREHENSIVELY AT HOW WE ENSURE
THAT EVERYONE IN SEATTLE HAS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE, WORK, AND
STAY HERE, IMPORTANT TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN, AND NOT JUST
WITH ZONING. BUT LOOKING AT IT
HOLISTICALLY, LOOKING AT IT FROM
THAT [ INAUDIBLE ], AND FOR
MODULAR HOMES. THERE ARE SO MANY
GREAT TECHNOLOGIES COMING OUT
THAT ARE REALLY MAKING A SPACE
FOR US AND LETTING US DO SO IN A
SUSTAINABLE WAY. WHEN WE ARE
ENSURING THAT EVERY CORNER OF
THE CITY HAS ACCESS TO GROCERY
STORES, AND INTERCONNECTED
COMMUNITIES, THAT'S SO CRUCIAL
WHEN WE ARE LOSING OUR [
INAUDIBLE ]. WHEN WE ENSURE [
INAUDIBLE ] IN OUR COMMUNITIES,
WE LOVE THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A
VIBRANT AND CONNECTED AREA. OUR
DOWNTOWN TO EVERY CORNER OF THE
CITY DESERVE A GREAT AND GREEN
EMERALD CITY THAT THEY CAN
AFFORD TO LIVE IN.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE CAROL
WILLIAMS.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS, MY NAME IS KARA
WILLIAMS, I LIVE IN D3. I AM
HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF CB 121195. WE ARE IN DIRE
NEED OF SHELTER THAT PROVIDES
PEOPLE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS,
A DOOR THAT LOCKS, A SPACE OF
THEIR OWN. WRAPAROUND CASE
MANAGEMENT, BEHAVIORAL
HEALTHCARE WHEN NECESSARY, AND
OTHER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
EXPANDING CURRENT SHELTER SITES
WITH NECESSARY SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES IS A FAST AND EFFECTIVE
WAY TO SAVE LIVES. I SUPPORT THE
INCREASE OF THE CITYWIDE LIMIT
FOR TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENTS
FROM 100 TO 150 PEOPLE, AND
ALLOWING SELECT SITES TO SERVE
UP TO 250 PEOPLE. YOU HEARD ME
SAY LAST NIGHT THAT SERVICE
PROVIDERS ARE READY TO ENSURE
PUBLIC SAFETY AT THESE SOME
SHELTER SITES TO PROVIDE
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, TO
COLLABORATE CLOSELY WITH
NEIGHBORS, AND TO MEET PEOPLE
WHERE THEY ARE ON THE PATH TO
PERMANENT HOUSING. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COMMITMENT TO ENDING
HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE MARTA.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
FOR TAKING THE TIME [ INAUDIBLE
]. MY NAME IS MARTA AND I'M THE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER AT
[ INAUDIBLE ]. WE BELIEVE THAT
THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS IN
SEATTLE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN
LINE WITH THE VASTNESS OF THE
NEEDS FOR OUR UNHOUSED
NEIGHBORS. WE NEED MORE HI
SUPPORT SHELTERS THAT PROVIDE
WRAPAROUND SERVICES. OUR TINY
HOUSE VILLAGE MODEL HAS BEEN
EFFECTIVE TO MEET OUR
NEIGHBORS' NEEDS BECAUSE THEY
ARE LOW BARRIER AND PROVIDE
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ON SITE.
CASE MANAGERS AND MENTAL HEALTH
PROVIDERS HELP SUPPORT CLIENTS
AND KEEP THEM SAFE AND WALK
ALONGSIDE THEM AND BECOME THEIR
BALANCE AFTER HAVING LIVED WITH
THE UNPREDICTABILITY OF BEING
UNHOUSED IN OUR CITY. MORE
CLIENTS NEED MORE ACCESS TO
SERVICES LIKE THESE, AND WE ASK
THAT YOU EXPAND SERVICES [
INAUDIBLE ]. PLEASE PASS CB
121195. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR
REMOTE SPEAKERS, STARTING WITH
LOGAN SCHMIDT. LOGAN, PLEASE
PRESS STAR 6.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR LIN AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY
NAME IS LOGAN SCHMIDT,
REPRESENTING [ INAUDIBLE ]. I AM
A D5 RESIDENT. [ INAUDIBLE ] WE
ARE ENCOURAGED TO SEE THIS
LEGISLATION [ INAUDIBLE ]. CB
121196 IS A PRACTICAL STEP
FORWARD TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING
SHORTAGE WHILE ENSURING [
INAUDIBLE ]. THIS REZONING WILL
HELP SUPPORT NEW DEVELOPMENT
WITHOUT CREATING PRESSURE. IT IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WE WORK
TOWARDS BALANCING GROWTH WITH
STABILITY FOR EXISTING
RESIDENTS. [ INAUDIBLE ]
ADOPTION OF HOUSING BILL 11042,
EXPANDING [ INAUDIBLE ] TO
INCLUDE BULL RIDERS THE
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL. MAKE
IT EASIER TO CONVERT [ INAUDIBLE
]. THIS NOT ONLY CREATES
MUCH-NEEDED HOMES, [ INAUDIBLE ]
RATHER THAN GROUND-UP
CONSTRUCTION. WE URGE YOUR
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE TOMMY
TROUTS.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, AND
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING
COMMENTS. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE
OF WORKING FOR [ INAUDIBLE ]
EVOLUTION PROJECT, AND OVER THE
LAST 14 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN SO
LUCKY TO CALL [ INAUDIBLE ]
HOME. WE HAVE SEEN IT TRANSITION
FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, A MIX OF
RETAIL , OFFICE, AND HOUSING,
AND WE HAVE BEEN THRILLED TO BE
PART OF THE TRANSITION. WE SEE
OUR CAMPUS SEATTLE EMBODIMENT OF
THIS. WE HAVE BROUGHT TOGETHER A
MIX OF USES FROM HEADQUARTERS TO
OUR FLAGSHIP [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE
WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO
BROADEN THESE USES AS WE DEVELOP
THE NEXT PHASE [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS CHANGE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE MARK.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I AM MARK, THE
PRINCIPAL AT [ INAUDIBLE ].
PRACTICING ARCHITECTURE [
INAUDIBLE ] AND HAD WORKED ON
PROJECTS THROUGHOUT SEATTLE.
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF [
INAUDIBLE ] LEGISLATION. WE ARE
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH [
INAUDIBLE ] ON THE TRIANGULAR
SITE BORDERED BY ELLIOTT WAY AND
[ INAUDIBLE ] . THE LEGISLATION
SUPPORTS POSITIVE CHANGE AND
INCREASED HOUSING [ INAUDIBLE ]
ACROSS SEATTLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS,
AND SPECIFICALLY [ INAUDIBLE ].
WHICH OFFERS A UNIQUE AND
EXCITING OPPORTUNITY [ INAUDIBLE
] AND CREATE A VITAL CONNECTION
[ INAUDIBLE ]. IN OUR ANALYSIS,
THE PROPOSED SITE [ INAUDIBLE ]
. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
FOR YOUR EFFORT ON THIS CRITICAL
WORK.
>> THANK YOU, MARK.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE CARTER
NELSON.
>> CARTER?
>> YEP, YOU'VE GOT IT.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR LIN AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, CARTER
NELSON, [ INAUDIBLE ]. SPEAKING
IN SUPPORT OF THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE. [
INAUDIBLE ] CONTRACTORS,
ENGINEERS, ATTORNEYS,
DEVELOPERS, AND MORE WHO ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERING MUCH
OF SEATTLE'S [ INAUDIBLE ], AND
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION. [ INAUDIBLE ]
PRACTICAL APPROACH BY MOVING
QUICKLY IN AREAS THAT ARE
WELL-POSITIONED TO ABSORB
ADDITIONAL HOUSING CAPACITY
WITHOUT CREATING DISPLACEMENT
PRESSURE. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY
ADVANCING TARGETED ZONING AND
CODE CHANGES NOW WHILE
CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE
LONG-TERM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN [
INAUDIBLE ]. TO CLEAR A MORE
WORKABLE PATH [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE
ALSO SUPPORT EARLY
IMPLEMENTATION OF HOUSE BILL
1183 TO REMOVE CODE BARRIERS [
INAUDIBLE ] MODULAR AND MASS
TIMBER [ INAUDIBLE ]. AND REDUCE
DELAYS [ INAUDIBLE ]. OUR
MEMBERS ARE READY TO HELP
DELIVER THE HOUSING SEATTLE
NEEDS, AND [ INAUDIBLE ].
>> THANK YOU, CARTER. NEXT UP,
WE HAVE SCOTT CLERK.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SCOTT CLARK,
I AM A LONGTIME SEATTLE
ARCHITECT, [ INAUDIBLE ]. ONE OF
THE MASS TIMBER HOUSING PROJECTS
IS ON PAGE 12 OF THE PACKAGE YOU
ARE WORKING ON. AS AN ARCHITECT
AND RESIDENT, I AM HERE TO
SUPPORT EVERY ELEMENT OF THIS
LEGISLATION, BECAUSE [ INAUDIBLE
] IT WILL HELP JUMPSTART STRONG
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND [
INAUDIBLE ] ENGINEERING AND
CONSTRUCTION JOBS. TODAY, WE ARE
FACING A SHARP [ INAUDIBLE ].
DOWN NEARLY 90% FROM THE 2022 [
INAUDIBLE ]. 35% YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
[ INAUDIBLE ] PANDEMIC AND
ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN THESE PAST SIX
YEARS. [ INAUDIBLE ] WE ARE
HEADING TOWARDS A DROP IN NEW
HOUSING SUPPLY [ INAUDIBLE ].
THIS LEGISLATION [ INAUDIBLE ]
BY CREATING A CLEAR, MORE
FEASIBLE PATH [ INAUDIBLE ] ,
REDUCES BARRIERS, ADDS
FLEXIBILITY.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE
DAVID GILL.
>> GOOD MORNING, THIS IS DAVE
GILL, I'M A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF
SEATTLE, A HOMEOWNER, LIVING IN
DISTRICT 2. MY TWO ADULT
CHILDREN CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE
IN THE CITY THAT THEY WERE BORN
, WHICH KILLS ME. AND I SUPPORT
BOTH HOUSING AFFORDABILITY PLAN
, AND ALSO , MAYOR WILSON'S PLAN
TO INCREASE SHELTER IMMEDIATELY,
SO PLEASE SUPPORT BOTH PIECES OF
LEGISLATURE TODAY, AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE JASON.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY
NAME IS JASON, PRESIDENT OF [
INAUDIBLE ]. WE ARE 100%
EMPLOYEE OWNED CONSTRUCTION
COMPANY [ INAUDIBLE ]. I'M HERE
TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
LEGISLATION. OUR 1100 EMPLOYEES
BELIEVE DEEPLY IN DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE [ INAUDIBLE ]. USING NEW
TECHNOLOGIES LIKE MASS TIMBER
CONSTRUCTION WOULD HELP THE CITY
AND THE REGION MEET BOTH OUR
HOUSING AND CLIMATE GOALS, WHILE
SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL CARPENTERS
AND UNION TRADE PARTNERS. THE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITY LEGISLATION
IS IMPORTANT [ INAUDIBLE ] HOUSE
BILL 1183, WHICH [ INAUDIBLE ]
MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION
THROUGHOUT THE CITY BY MAKING IT
EASIER TO BUILD , WHICH WILL
REDUCE THE COST, PROVIDING MORE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES. [
INAUDIBLE ] HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES WILL HELP BUILD
MORE HOUSING IN SEATTLE. [
INAUDIBLE ] IS A DOWNTOWN
BUSINESS, WE WANT MORE RESIDENTS
DOWNTOWN TO HELP MAKE OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE
APPLAUD THE CITY FOR
COMMUNICATING IS NECESSARY STEPS
TO PROVIDE NEW HOUSING IN
SEATTLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE ANDREA.
>> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE
CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS ANDREA
AND I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE
PROPOSED LEGISLATION, CB 121196,
AND THE RELATED FREMONT STONE
WAY REASON. I OWN FOUR PARCELS
ON ONE OF THE BLOCKS THAT IS
BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE FREMONT
REASON. THIS BLOCK IS LOCATED
BETWEEN NORTH 34th AND NORTH
35th, [ INAUDIBLE ]. I'M A
FOURTH-GENERATION OWNER AND
MANAGER OF PROPERTIES. MY
GREAT-GRANDPARENTS FIRST BOUGHT
ONE OF THE PROPERTIES AND MADE
THEIR HOME IN 1912. I'VE
WATCHED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
COMMUNITY EVOLVE OVER FOUR
DECADES. [ INAUDIBLE ] ORDINARY
DEVELOPMENT OF THE BLOCK WILL
ENABLE [ INAUDIBLE ] ADDITIONAL
HOUSING FOR SEATTLE RESIDENTS.
IDEALLY, THIS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT
WOULD SUPPORT ENTRY-LEVEL
HOMEBUYERS, SMALL BUSINESS, AND
ALSO EMPHASIZED PUBLIC SPACE AND
[ INAUDIBLE ] GREATER SEATTLE
COMMUNITY, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MY
COMMENTS.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE SCOTT.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS SCOTT. I'M
HERE VIRTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE
PROPOSED LEGISLATION, CB 121196,
THAT WILL LEAD TO ADDITIONAL
HOUSING PRODUCTION SOONER THAN
LATER. ONGOING HOUSING
CHALLENGES AFFECT THOSE IN
GREATER NEED OF HOUSING, THOSE
EMERGING INTO THE HOUSING
ECONOMY, AND THOSE WHO STRUGGLE
TO REMAIN HOUSED. THIS
LEGISLATION HAS POTENTIAL TO
INCREASE [ INAUDIBLE ]. BY
INCREASING SUPPLY AND [
INAUDIBLE ] . THE SEVEN SPECIFIC
PROPOSED GOALS ALIGN WITH [
INAUDIBLE ] WERE NEIGHBORHOODS
ARE IN TRANSITION, WHERE [
INAUDIBLE ] INITIAL SUPPORT [
INAUDIBLE ] AND TO REMOVE
BARRIERS TO UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES
TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES BETTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF
THESE GOALS. [ INAUDIBLE ] STONE
WAY REASON. THIS FREE ZONE [
INAUDIBLE ] WILL ALLOW HOUSING
PLUS LARGER RESIDENTIAL USES TO
COMPLEMENT THE GROWING
COMMERCIAL PRESENCE. [ INAUDIBLE
]
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE
CHRIS. CHRIS, PLEASE PRESS*6.
>> I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF --
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY NAME
IS CHRIS GILLETT AND I'M
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF [
INAUDIBLE ] OWNERSHIP OF THE
HISTORIC [ INAUDIBLE ] BUILDING
ON THIRD AND UNION. WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF CB 121196. THIS
LEGISLATION WILL GREATLY
INCREASE VISIBILITY OF
CONVERTING OUR VACANT OFFICE
BUILDING TO MUCH-NEEDED
RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS AND WILL
ENCOURAGE [ INAUDIBLE ] OF THIS
HISTORIC ONSET . THANK YOU [
INAUDIBLE ].
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE ANDY
CAMPBELL.
>> GOOD MORNING, YEAH, I JUST
WANTED TO EXPRESS STRONG SUPPORT
FOR THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
PACKAGE. I AM A HOUSING
DEVELOPER, I'M ALSO A LONGTIME
RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SEATTLE,
AND BOTH OF THOSE LENSES, I'M
REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THE
HOUSING APPLIED IS HEADED IN
SEATTLE NOW. I THINK THIS SHOULD
BE A FIVE ALARM FIRE FOR OUR
CITY. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK
THE DECK HAS NEVER BEEN MORE
STACKED AGAINST NEW [ INAUDIBLE
], SO LEGISLATION LIKE THIS THAT
REMOVES ROADBLOCKS TO HOUSING
PRODUCTION IS REALLY THE ONLY
WAY THAT WE CAN GET [ INAUDIBLE
] BACK ON TRACK IN THE CITY, AND
I THINK THIS LEGISLATION HAS
SPENT A TON OF TIME WITH CITY
STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT IS
HYPERFOCUS, IT WILL SERVE REAL
PROJECTS [ INAUDIBLE ] I SEE
ZERO NEGATIVES IN MOVING THIS
FORWARD, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING
TANGIBLE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO
NEAR-TERM, RIGHT NOW, TO ADDRESS
THE HOUSING SHORTAGE, AND I JUST
WANTED TO VOICE STRONG SUPPORT
FOR THAT, AND THANK YOU, [
INAUDIBLE ], IT'S EXACTLY WHAT
SEATTLE NEEDS RIGHT NOW, THANKS.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE JESSE
SIMPSON.
>> SAY, GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS,
[ INAUDIBLE ] IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
LEGISLATION. THIS IS A
STRAIGHTFORWARD ZONING CHANGE
THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING MOVING
FORWARD AND HELP ADDRESS THE
HOMELESS SHORTAGE. [ INAUDIBLE ]
AND UNLOCK SITES THAT ARE
POSITIONED TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IN THE NEAR-TERM. [
INAUDIBLE ] IN THE UNIVERSITY
DISTRICT IN MADISON VALLEY [
INAUDIBLE ]. THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES LEGISLATION WILL
ALLOW MORE [ INAUDIBLE ] AND I
URGE YOU TO PASS THIS
LEGISLATION QUICKLY. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, JESSE.
>> LAST, WE HAVE DAVID HAYNES.
>> HI, WE NEED TO TAKE
RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE STILL IN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE NEED
TO BUILD HIGHER AND WITH MORE
ROBUST FLOOR SPACES, AND WE NEED
TO QUALIFY DEVELOPERS, NOT THESE
NONPROFITS THAT HIRE SOMEBODY
ELSE TO DO THE JOB THEY CLAIM
THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR, BUT
I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DESPERATE
NEED FOR -- TO SOLVE THE
HOMELESS CRISIS AND ALL THE
PEOPLE [ INAUDIBLE ]. DOESN'T
THINK IT'S BAD ENOUGH. AND YOU
ALL WILL EXPAND THE OFFERINGS OF
SHELTER IN CERTAIN AREA, BUT IF
YOU HAVE A LOT OF
SELF-DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIORS AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
CAUSING TROUBLE FOR INNOCENT
HOMELESS PEOPLE IN AN
ENCAMPMENT, IT STANDS TO REASON
THAT YOU STILL NEED TO USE THE
RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE,
SUCH AS THE NOBLE USE OF THE
NATIONAL GUARD TO STAND UP. 500
CAPACITY OF UNAUTHORIZED
ENCAMPMENT. [ INAUDIBLE ] AND
LET INNOCENT PEOPLE GO TO THE
TINY HOUSE VILLAGE FIRST INSTEAD
OF ALLOWING ALL THESE --
>> CHAIR, THAT IS OUR LAST
SPEAKER.
>> OKAY. SINCE THERE ARE NO
ADDITIONAL REGISTERED SPEAKERS,
WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO OUR ITEMS
OF BUSINESS. BUT BEFORE WE DO
SO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL
FOR COMING TO TESTIFY TODAY.
THIS WAS NOT NECESSARILY
INTENTIONAL, BUT I THINK IT'S
INTERESTING THAT WE HAVE THESE
TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION BEFORE
US THAT IN MANY WAYS TACKLE THE
INTERRELATED ISSUES AROUND
HOMELESSNESS, AROUND OUR HOUSING
COSTS, HOUSING PRODUCTION, AND I
THINK WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF
GREAT TESTIMONY ADDRESSING
CERTAIN OF THE WHOLE RANGE OF
NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER
IT IS SHELTER, MENTAL HEALTH,
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW,
ROBUST SUPPORT, BUT ALSO THE
REAL AFFORDABILITY ISSUES, THE
NEED TO ADDRESS ECONOMIC
INEQUALITY, AS WELL AS THE NEED
FOR GOOD JOBS, FOR SUPPORTING
NEW TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION LIKE
MASS TIMBER AS THE EVERGREEN
STATE, AND WE SHOULD BE LEADERS
IN THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY. SO,
ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU
ALL FOR BEING HERE, JUST WANTED
TO GET ONTO OUR WORDS A
BUSINESS, BUT JUST WANTED TO SAY
THOSE FEW WORDS. WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON . WHILE THE CLERK PLEASE
READ AGENDA ITEM 1.
>> COUNCIL BILL 121195. AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO LAND USE
AND ZONING, ADOPTING INTERIM
PROVISIONS TO EXPAND THE
CAPACITY OF TRANSITIONAL
ENCAMPMENTS, AND AMENDING
SECTIONS 23.4 2.054 AND
23.42.056 OF THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS
OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR, I
REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, TOO,
ON HOW MEANINGFUL IT IS TO HAVE
BOTH OF THESE PIECES OF
LEGISLATION UP IN FRONT OF US
FOR DISCUSSION TODAY. SO, I WILL
SHARE A FEW WORDS. I WANT TO
START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND TEAM FOR
BRINGING THIS LEGISLATION
FORWARD, AND IN PARTICULAR, FOR
SENDING THIS DOWN FOR US SO
QUICKLY AND WORKING IN
COLLABORATION OVER THE LAST FEW
WEEKS TO ENSURE THAT WE REFINE
THE DETAILS OF THIS PROPOSAL TO
BRING US TO WHAT IS IN FRONT OF
US TODAY. AS WE ALL KNOW, WE
HAVE BEEN IN A HOMELESSNESS
STATE OF EMERGENCY SINCE 2015 ,
BUT WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN IN A
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS SINCE LONG
BEFORE THEN. YET LATER TODAY,
THE WOMEN IN BLACK WILL HOLD A
VIGIL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIED
OUTSIDE LAST MONTH. LATER TODAY,
I WILL BE GOING WITH OUTREACH
WORKERS TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE
WHO ARE LIVING IN RVs ACROSS OUR
CITY. AND WE KNOW THAT TODAY, WE
HAVE MORE THAN 2000 McKINNEY
YOUTH, SO HOMELESS YOUTH IN
SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. TODAY,
WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE THAN
16,000 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
RELIGIOUSNESS ACROSS THE COUNTY.
WE ARE STILL IN CRISIS, AND THAT
DEMANDS URGENCY. AND IT IS ALSO
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET
THE DETAILS OF THIS EXPANSION
RIGHT, ENSURING THAT AS WE BRING
THESE NEW AND EXPANDED SHELTERS
ONLINE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT
RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE
DIVERSITY OF NEEDS THAT ARE
HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. AT A
HIGH LEVEL, THIS LEGISLATION
ALLOWS US TO SEND OUR CAPACITY
AND OUR TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENTS
WITH A FOCUS ON TINY HOUSE
VILLAGES, SO WE CAN SERVE MORE
PEOPLE MORE QUICKLY. WE KNOW
THAT ONE OF THE BIG CONSTRAINTS
WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW IS
FUNDING AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF
US AS A COUNCIL FOR THE
LEGISLATION WE PASSED YESTERDAY,
BUT WE ALSO KNOW A CONSTRAINT IS
SITES, AND WITH SITES LIMITED,
WE NEED TO BE SMARTER ABOUT HOW
WE USE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE
YESTERDAY, WE PASSED LEGISLATION
THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO LEASE
LAND OR TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENTS
AND ALSO FINDING TOP STANDUP
ADDITIONAL SHELTER UNITS. TODAY
AS WE ARE CONSIDERING THIS
LEGISLATION, WE ARE REMINDING
OUR AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY
DELIVER MORE UNITS OF SHELTER.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL WEEKS SINCE THIS
LEGISLATION WAS SENT DOWN, MY
OFFICE HAS ENGAGED DEEPLY WITH
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS
WITH WRITERS ACROSS THE CITY AND
I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR
TIME. WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS
CLEAR, THAT THERE IS A REAL
OPPORTUNITY TO OPERATE LARGER
SITES IN A WAY THAT WORKS, AND
THAT OPPORTUNITY IS REFLECTED IN
SOME OF THE PRE-INTRODUCTION
CHANGES THAT COLLEAGUES, YOU
HAVE SEEN IN THE LEGISLATION IN
FRONT OF US TODAY. THOSE CHANGES
INCLUDE FOCUSING ON A SINGLE
PILOT SITE THAT CAN GO UP TO 250
RESIDENTS, AND PROVIDING CLEARER
DEFINITIONS AROUND WHAT
TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENTS MEAN,
SO FOCUS THIS SPECIFICALLY ON
TINY HOUSE VILLAGES AND RVs. WE
ARE DOING THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF
A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AT OUR
COMMUNITY, SO WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE BEING FOCUSED,
THAT WE ARE BEING STRATEGIC, AND
WE ARE BEING REALISTIC ABOUT THE
RESOURCES AND THE ATTENTION THAT
IS GOING TO BE NEEDED TO OPERATE
THIS PROJECT AT SCALE, SO THIS
PROPOSAL REFLECTS A CLOSE
COORDINATION BETWEEN MY OFFICE
AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND
WITH THIS COMING TO COMMITTEE, I
AM EXCITED TO CONTINUE THIS
CONVERSATION WITH COLLEAGUES.
LASTLY, AS A REMINDER,
COLLEAGUES, I MENTIONED THIS AT
COUNCIL BRIEFING EARLIER THIS
WEEK, ANY POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS
ARE DUE ON THE 22nd. WE WILL
HAVE THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION ON
THE 29th AND HAVE IT VOTED OUT
OF COMMITTEE ON THE SIXTH BEFORE
COMING TO FULL COUNCIL. THANK
YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
FOSTER. REPRESENTATIVES, CAN YOU
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND
PROCEED TO SMART THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WE WILL START WITH
A ROUND OF INTRODUCTIONS, AND
THEN [ INAUDIBLE ]. MY NAME IS
KATE BRUNETTE KRUEZER, SHE
SLASHED HER, AND I WILL PASS IT
TO MY RIGHT.
>> I AM JON, SENIOR POLICY
ADVISER WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
>> LIVES VANBEMMEL, SHE SLASHED
HER POINT
>> HI, JENNIFER, CITY COUNCIL,
CENTRAL STAFF.
>> KETIL FREEMAN.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ] AT THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
>> DEE DHLAMINI. AT THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
>> ALISON WILL COME FOR MAYOR
WILSON'S OFFICE.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE AT THIS
TABLE FOR JOINING US TODAY.
THANK YOU TO CHAIR MEMBER LIN
FOR HOSTING US, THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER FOR
SPONSORING THIS LEGISLATION.
I'M NOT SURE HE IS ON THE CALL
STILL, BUT I WANT TO THANK
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS FOR HIS
SPONSORSHIP OF THE BILLS THAT
PASSED YESTERDAY, THANK YOU TO
ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS HERE
TODAY AND THOSE YES WHO PASSED
YESTERDAY'S LEGISLATION. AND
FINAL, I WILL THANK THE PEOPLE
WHO PROVIDED SOME PUBLIC COMMENT
TODAY, SHARING THEIR EXPERIENCE
WORKING IN THE SHELTER SYSTEM
WHEREAS NEIGHBORS OR PARTNERS
WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING
THIS MOVE FORWARD. WE SO
APPRECIATE THE COUNCILS
PARTNERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP WITH
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON DOING
SOMETHING AMBITIOUS RIGHT OFF
THE GATE, WE KNOW IT HAS BEEN A
BIT OF A BREAKNECK PACE AND WE
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US
QUICKLY AND TRY SOMETHING
TOGETHER . WE ARE EXCITED TO
DIVE IN TODAY ABOUT THE LAST
PIECE OF THIS PARTICULAR POLICY
PACKAGE AND WE ARE REALLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THE DETAILS
AND IMPLEMENTATION TO MAKE SURE
THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, SO WE CAN
MAKE A REAL IMPACT ON REDUCING
HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, THE REASON WE ARE HERE TODAY
IS TO DISCUSS LEGISLATION AROUND
CENSUS NUMBERS AT INDIVIDUAL
SITES. THE REASON WE BROUGHT
THIS TO YOU ALL TODAY IS THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE CONVENED
INTERDEPARTMENTAL TEAM EARLIER
THIS YEAR TO IDENTIFY POLICIES
THAT COULD FACILITATE EXPANSION
OF TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENTS IN
OUR CITY, AND ONE OF THE AREAS
OF OPPORTUNITY THEY IDENTIFIED
WAS EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT COULD BE HOUSED AT
AN INDIVIDUAL SITE. OUR CURRENT
LAND USE CODE LIMITS SITES TO
100 PEOPLE. WHEN WE HAVE LIMITED
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE SITES FOR [
INAUDIBLE ], WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE USING OUR PUBLIC
RESOURCES WELL AND RESPONSIBLY
AND EFFICIENTLY, SO WE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
EXPAND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
CITED AT THOSE LOCATIONS. FOR
EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SOME PUBLICLY
OWNED SITES THAT HAVE A MICRO
SHELTER CITED ALREADY, AND SOME
OF THOSE HAVE UNUSED LAND, WE
WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE
THAT LAND. SO, WITH THAT, I'M
GOING TO PASS IT TO MY
COLLEAGUE, JON, WILL GET US INTO
THE DETAILS OF THIS PARTICULAR
LEGISLATION.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS PART OF
THE PRESENTATION BRIEF BECAUSE I
KNOW THAT SEVERAL STAFF HAVE A
MORE EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION TO
GO OVER SOME OF THE NUANCES OF
THE POLICY, BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL,
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS TO
PASS INTERIM LEGISLATION THAT
WOULD ALLOW FOR MICRO MODULAR
SHELTERS AND RV AND VEHICLE SAVE
LOTS TO GO FROM LIMITATION OF
100 PEOPLE PER SITE TO 150
PEOPLE CITYWIDE. AND TO ALLOW
FOR ONE SITE , AGAIN, LIMITED TO
MICRO MODULAR [ INAUDIBLE ] SAVE
LOTS TO GO UP TO 250 PEOPLE. AND
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS A
BIT OF A SMALL CHANGE TO THE
ORIGINAL LEGISLATION. WE HAVE
MADE SOME PRE-INTRODUCTION
CHANGES, SO THAT WE CAN NARROW
THE FOCUS OF THE LEGISLATION
TOWARDS ONE PILOT PROGRAM THAT
WOULD BE AT THAT LARGER 250
PERSON SITE. I THINK THE INTENT
THERE IS TO KIND OF DEMONSTRATE
THAT, ONE, WE CAN DO IT, WE CAN
DO IT WELL, AND THAT WE ARE
MOVING AT A PACE THAT IS
REASONABLE AND DEVELOP THE
APPROPRIATE POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES TO DO SO. THIS WOULD
BE INTERIM LEGISLATION THAT
EXPIRES AFTER 12 MONTHS. THERE
IS AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE OF THE
LEGISLATION . NORMALLY THE WAY
THIS WOULD WORK IS THAT STSCI
WOULD HAVE TO DO AN ANALYSIS
BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
THE POLICY. BUT GIVEN THE
URGENCY OF THIS MATTER, THIS
WILL ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT
THIS LEGISLATION, AND THEN SDCI
PURPORTEDLY CAN PROCEED WITH
ANALYSIS AT THE SAME TIME, SO BY
THE TIME YOU INTRODUCE PERMANENT
LEGISLATION, ALL OF THAT
ANALYSIS AND THE SDCI DEPARTMENT
WILL PRODUCE A REPORT TO
FINALIZE LEGISLATION ALONG THE
TERMS OF THE COUNCIL DEEMS
SATISFACTORY. SO, WHAT ARE WE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY? I
THINK THAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS THAT THERE
ARE SUCCESSFUL MODELS OF LARGE
MICRO MODULAR SHELTERS. SEATTLE
IS ONE OF THE FIRST OF THE
NATION TO INNOVATE AND CREATE
THIS MODEL. BUT TYPICALLY , TINY
HOUSE VILLAGES OR MICRO MODULAR
PROGRAMS RANGE BETWEEN, YOU
KNOW, 50 UNITS TO ABOUT -- AT
BIGGEST, 85 UNITS. BUT WHAT WE
ARE SEEING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS
THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE TAKEN
THIS MODEL AND EXPANDED IT
SIGNIFICANTLY. WITH SOME SITES
GOING AS LARGE AS 100 TO UP TO
220 UNITS PER SITE, OR SOMETIMES
MORE. THE LARGEST SITES THAT WE
FOUND ACTUALLY SERVES 300 PEOPLE
IN A SINGLE LOCATION. SO, HERE
ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES. THERE IS
TAMPA HOPE, WHICH IS IN TAMPA,
FLORIDA, THAT IS 215 UNITS, +116
PLATFORM TENTS THAT SERVES 345
PEOPLE. YOU MAY ALL RECALL THAT
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FROM
TAMPA HOPE ACTUALLY TESTIFIED AT
THE LAST LAND-USE COMMITTEE
MEETING AND GIVE SOME HELP
INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THAT SITE
OPERATES , AND I WILL TALK MORE
ABOUT TAMPA HOPE IN JUST A
MOMENT. THERE IS ALSO GENESIS
PALLET SHELTER IN CHICO,
CALIFORNIA IT IS 170 UNITS,
SERVING 200 PEOPLE. A VILLAGE IN
LOS ANGELES SERVING 168 PEOPLE,
AND THE WEST L.A. VETERANS
ASSOCIATION THAT IS SERVING
APPROXIMATELY 200 PEOPLE AT THAT
SITE. SO, JUST TO DO KIND OF A
RECAP OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM
TAMPA HOPE, AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE
A REALLY EXCITING PROGRAM . YOU
HAVE HEARD FROM EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR MAGGIE ROGERS TALK
ABOUT RICK'S ARIANS STANDING UP
THIS PROGRAM OVER A NUMBER OF
YEARS. IT IS OPERATED BY
CATHOLIC CHARITIES. CURRENTLY
SERVING 345 PEOPLE. AND THEY
ACTUALLY PLAN TO ITS AND TO
SERVE 400 PEOPLE WITH 400 BEDS,
WHICH IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. THE
SERVICES ARE PRETTY SIMILAR TO
WHAT WE WOULD FIND THAT SOME OF
OUR MICRO MODULAR SHELTERS, THEY
PROVIDE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT
CLASSES, SUBSTANCE USE AND
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT ON SITE,
CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES
ON-SITE, THREE DAILY MEALS,
CLOTHING, MEDICAL CARE, AND LIFE
SKILLS AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT
CLASSES. [ INAUDIBLE ] A LOT OF
QUESTIONS AROUND THE STAFFING
MODEL, SO WE REACHED OUT AFTER
THE MEETING, I KNOW SOME
COUNCILMEMBERS HAD ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IS THIS
STAFFED? WE KIND OF WANTED TO
GET THOSE DETAILS, AND WHAT WE
LEARN FROM TAMPA HOPE IS THEY
HAVE ABOUT EIGHT CASE MANAGERS
ON SITE. TWO AVERAGE STOP, AND
THEN 13 MONITORS THAT PROVIDE
THE 24/7 STOPPING. SINCE THEY
HAVE OPENED, THEIR PARTY HOUSED
350 PEOPLE, SO THE PROGRAM HAS
BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING FOLKS
INTO HOUSING. SO, IMPORTANT TO
THIS CONVERSATION IS THE PUBLIC
SAFETY DISCUSSION AND MAKING
SURE THESE SITES ARE OPERATED,
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NOT
JUST APPLIES TO THIS LARGER 250
PERSON SITE, BUT POTENTIALLY TO
ALSO -- SORRY, POTENTIALLY ALSO
ANY MICRO MODULAR PROGRAM, WE
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE
IS OPERATIONAL SAFETY , AND SOME
OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT
THESE LARGER SITES CONSISTENTLY
WAS THAT THEY HAVE A 24/7
STAFFING MODEL, [ INAUDIBLE ], A
SECURE ENTRY INTO THE SITE,
OTHER PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, WE
WANT TO SEE A STRONG RESIDENT
CODE OF CONDUCT. WE HAVE SAMPLES
OF THOSE FROM EXISTING PROVIDERS
THAT WERE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH
THE COUNCIL TO AND GIVE YOU A
PICTURE OF THE DETAILS OF THAT,
BUT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU
CAN'T HAVE WEAPONS ON THIS
SITE, YOU CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW,
CONDUCTING ANY KIND OF ILLEGAL
ACTIVITY. THERE NEEDS TO BE
ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, GOOD
NEIGHBORS TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE
IN THE PROGRAM AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA. ALREADY IN
CITY CODE, THERE IS A
REQUIREMENT FOR EACH OF THESE
TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENT PROGRAMS
AS THEY ARE CALLED IN THE CODE.
COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A MONTHLY MEETING WITH
STAFF WILL ACTUALLY MEET
DIRECTLY WITH CONSTITUENTS, WITH
PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND EVERYBODY
CAN PARTICIPATE IN A
CONVERSATION DIRECTLY WITH THE
ACTUAL STUFF THAT OPERATE THE
SITE AND PROVIDE THAT DIRECT
FEEDBACK TO MAKE SURE THE SITE
IS BEING OPERATED WELL, AND
ALSO, WAYS TO SUPPORT IT. MANY
TIMES, THESE ARE A GROUP OF
FOLKS THAT ARE DOING FOOD DRIVES
HER CLOTHING DRIVES FOR FOLKS
THAT ARE IN THE SHELTER ONE OF
THE KEY THINGS, TOO, IS HAVING A
STRONG GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT,
OR AS THE COUNCIL IS KIND OF
INVESTIGATING, YOU KNOW,
NEIGHBORHOOD MITIGATION PLANS. I
KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE
HAS BEEN GREAT ON LEADING ON
THIS ISSUE, SO WE CAN ALWAYS
STRENGTHEN AND IMPROVE THESE,
BUT IN EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT FOR
THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE PROVIDING
THESE SERVICES, THERE IS A
REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A GOOD
NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. THERE IS
ALSO GOING TO BE SAFETY
CONSIDERATIONS IN THE DESIGN OF
THESE PROGRAMS. THIS IS IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH DOES A
REVIEW OF SITES, AND THIS IS A
WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT LINES OF
SIGHT, LIGHTING, ACCESS POINTS,
THAT THERE IS KIND OF A PUBLIC
SAFETY LENS ON HOW THESE ARE
BUILT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
SAFE. AND THEN LASTLY , BUT NOT
LEAST, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
ALWAYS REVIEWS EVERY SINGLE SITE
PLAN BEFORE THE USER STOOD UP
AND DOES A FINAL WALK-THROUGH
BEFORE THE SITE OPENS TO MAKE
SURE THEY MEET HIGHER CODE. HOW
AM I DOING ON TIME?
>> JUST TRYING TO FIX THE
PRESENTATION, IT WASN'T SHOWING
UP ONLINE.
>> WONDERED WHAT WAS GOING ON,
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> I AM GOING TO TURN TO MY
COLLEAGUE, ALLISON HOLCOMBE, TO
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK
AROUND A PUBLIC SAFETY
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT. ALISON, TAKE
IT AWAY.
>> THANKS, JON, AND JUST A
COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES TO ADD TO
JON'S EXPLANATION. COMMUNITY
PARTNERSHIPS ARE CRITICAL TO
SUCCESSFUL LAUNCHES OF THESE
SITES. IN ADDITION TO
PARTNERSHIPS IN BETWEEN , THE
OPERATORS OF THE SHELTERS AND
THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THE
SHELTER'S SAKE, THERE IS STRONG
COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION
ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND
BETWEEN CITY DEPARTMENTS WITH
THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND THE
REASON FOR THIS IS THAT WE KNOW
THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE SERVED
BY THESE SHELTERS TEND TO BE
MORE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. WE
ARE DEALING WITH A POPULATION
THAT HAS A HIGHER PREVALENCE OF
MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS AND/OR
CO-OCCURRING SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDERS, AND THAT IN TURN
MAKES THEM BOTH HONORABLE TO
WHAT I WILL REFERRED TO AS
PREDATORY OFFENSES, WHERE YOU
HAVE MID-LEVEL DRUG DEALERS,
DRUG TRAFFICKERS FOR EXAMPLE,
LOOK INTO THIS BASE POPULATION
AS CUSTOMERS FOR MOST OF THEIR
DRUG TRAFFICKING, AS WELL AS A
POTENTIAL WAIVER BASE FOR
PERMANENT ACTIVITY SUCH AS HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND/OR ORGANIZE
RETAIL THEFT, COPPER WIRE
STRIPPING, ET CETERA. SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT ALREADY ENJOYS
A STRONG COLLABORATIVE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HUMANS
SERVICES DEPARTMENT VIA THE
UNIFIED CARE TEAM, WHICH VISITS
MANY OF THE EXISTING ENCAMPMENTS
ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THROUGH
THE FIND IT FIX IT APP AND
CRITERIA FOR RESOLVING [
INAUDIBLE ] PUBLIC ACCESS TO
PUBLIC SPACES. HAS MUCH
EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH THIS
POPULATION AND ACTUALLY
ESTABLISHING RELATIONSHIPS WITH
THE INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE
ENCAMPMENTS. WHAT THIS ALLOWS
THEM TO DO IS TO GAIN
INFORMATION ABOUT THESE
INCREASED RISKS OF CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY THAT MAY FOLLOW
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN
THESE HONORABLE SITUATIONS AND
ENCAMPMENTS, AND THROUGH
TARGETED ENFORCEMENT, BE ABLE TO
REMOVE THOSE ACTORS THAT ARE
UNDERMINING THE SUCCESS OF THE
SHELTERS AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE ACCESSING THE SHELTERS TO
EXIT HOMELESSNESS.
>> THANK YOU. SO, WITH THAT, YOU
KNOW, WE BROUGHT REPRESENTATIVES
FROM HST AND SDCI TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE. WE
ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR
TIME TODAY, AND THE HOPE AND
AMBITION OF THIS LEGISLATION IS
SO WE CAN USE OUR PUBLIC ASSETS
AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. IN
OUR ASSESSMENT, THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW EXISTING
PROGRAMS, AND I THINK WE CAN DO
SO IN A RESPONSIBLE AND
THOUGHTFUL WAY, AND APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME AND QUESTIONS TODAY,
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES?
ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST? NO?
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK? X THANK
YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU ALL
FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND KIND OF
PICKING UP ON OUR LAST PART OF
THE DISCUSSION, LAST TIME WE
DISCUSSED THIS IN COMMITTEE, I
KNOW I RAISED SOME QUESTIONS
RELATED TO STAFFING. I WANT TO
THANK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR
PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AND I
AM WONDERING IF WE CAN EXPAND ON
THAT A LITTLE MORE FOR TODAY,
JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE EXAMPLE
THAT WE HAVE, I BET YOU ALL
HIGHLIGHTED A LARGE SITE
PROFILE, WHICH I THINK IS
HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND HOW LARGE
SITES OPERATE AND I KNOW IN THIS
EXAMPLE, WE HAVE 345 PEOPLE
SERVED WITH A CASE MANAGERS, AND
I THINK WE HAVE HEARD LOUD AND
CLEAR, AND I KNOW IT THE INTENT
OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENSURE
THAT THE SITES WE ARE BRINGING
ONLINE HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF
SUPPORTIVE STAFFING, SO I AM
WONDERING IF YOU ALL ARE
THINKING IN TERMS OF RIGHT NOW,
FOR THE PROPOSAL, THE STAFFING
RATIOS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT,
IS THE ADMINISTRATION THINKING
ABOUT ONE TO 15 IN TERMS OF CASE
MANAGER RATIO? I'M JUST
WONDERING IF YOU CAN EXPAND ON
SOME OF YOUR CURRENT THINKING ON
THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE?
>> YEAH, I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT,
IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
QUESTION. SO, THE WAY THAT WE
ARE ENVISIONING THIS IS THAT
THERE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
SERVICE MODELS FOR DIFFERENT
ACUITY POPULATIONS. THERE ARE
SOME PROGRAMS, LIKE YOU HAVE
HEARD SOME GREAT TESTIMONY TODAY
ABOUT THE FOLKS [ INAUDIBLE ] OR
FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE CO-OCCURRING
MEDICAL ISSUES AND MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES. THESE ARE FOLKS THAT MAY
BE INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND REQUIRE THAT
ONE TO 15, ONE TO 20 RATIO. AND
THEN THERE ARE OTHER SHELTER
PROGRAMS WHERE THERE ARE FOLKS
THAT, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE
IN AN EXPENSIVE CITY, IT IS HARD
TO FIND HOUSING, AND SOME FOLKS,
IT JUST TAKES ONE CRITICAL
INCIDENT AND THEY CAN LOSE THEIR
HOUSING. AND WHERE CAN THOSE GO
WHILE THEY GET BACK UP ON THEIR
FEET AND GET BACK INTO HOUSING?
SO, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT
QUITE AT THAT HIGH ACUITY LEVEL,
I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE
TIMES WHERE THERE IS GOING TO BE
A TRANSFER, SO LET'S SAY IF
THERE IS A PERSON THAT MAY BE
HAVING -- THEY'RE LIVING IN A
HIGH ACUITY PROGRAM, BUT STILL
HAS CASE MANAGEMENT ON SITE, AND
THAT PERSON, MAYBE [ INAUDIBLE
], THEY GO OFF THEIR MEDICATION
AND THEY NEED ASSISTANCE ON THAT
MEDICATION, AND IT TURNS OUT
THEY NEED HIGHER [ INAUDIBLE ].
IN SOME CASES, THE WAY THE
CURRENT PROGRAM WORKS, THAT
PERSON MIGHT BE EXITED FROM THE
SHELTER. THE SYSTEM WE ARE
TRYING TO DESIGN IS THAT THESE
SHELTERS OPERATE AS A PORTFOLIO,
SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS KIND OF
FACING THE HIGHER ACUITY ISSUE,
THEY ARE IN A MISMATCH FOR THE
SERVICE NEED BECAUSE THERE WAS A
CHANGE IN THE SITUATION, WE CAN
MAKE A TRANSFER TO A LARGER --
NOT TO A LARGER, BUT A HIGHER [
INAUDIBLE ] . SO, THAT IS THE
AMBITION AND THE VISION THAT
THESE PROGRAMS CAN BE WORKING IN
CONCORDANCE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT
AT THE SAME TIME, [ INAUDIBLE ]
NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE
SERVING THE HIGHEST ACUITY
LEVEL, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT
EXACTLY WHAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON
NEEDS.
>> AND I WILL JUST ADD, WE
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT TO THE
LEGISLATION PASSED YESTERDAY,
HIGH ACUITY WORK THAT WE
ESTABLISHED AND WE ANTICIPATE A
LOT OF THIS WORK WILL BE
HAPPENING IN THAT SPACE , TO GET
REALLY CLEAR ON THOSE STAFFING
MODELS, [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO BEING IN CONVERSATION
WITH YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ON
THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, I KNOW WE
HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
COMPLEXITY WHEN IT COMES TO [
INAUDIBLE ] WHO EXPERIENCE
HOMELESSNESS AND HAVING A
FOCUSED APPROACH ON HOW TO [
INAUDIBLE ] THOSE WITH HIGH
ACUITY NEEDS, SO THANK YOU FOR [
INAUDIBLE ] HIGHER ACUITY
POPULATION WILL BE FOCUSED ON
REALLY DEFINING THAT CASE
MANAGEMENT RATIO, WHICH SOUNDS
LIKE IT WAS REALLY IN THAT RANGE
OF ONE TO 15 PROGRAM
PARTICIPANTS, IT WOULD BE JUST
GREAT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON
THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT
ARE THEY EXPECTING IN CASE
MANAGEMENT RATIOS, SO WE CAN
ENSURE WE ARE DELIVERING ON
SUCCESS AND MAKING SURE THE
SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH REALLY RELIES
ON HAVING THAT STAFFING SUPPORT
FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. I THINK
MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THIS
POINT, IF YOU ALL CAN SPEAK TO
THE CURRENT THINKING AROUND
HIRING. I KNOW AS A FOLLOW-UP,
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PROVIDING
SOME INFORMATION ON THE HIGH
LEVEL ACROSS ALL OF THE SITES,
HOW MUCH STAFFING SUPPORT WILL
BE NEEDED, BUT WHAT IS THE
CURRENT THINKING ON HOW WE CAN
ENSURE THAT WE CAN BRING ONLINE
AND SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE TO
SUPPORT THIS EXPANSION?
>> I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY TURN
TO [ INAUDIBLE ] TO TALK ABOUT
CONVERSATIONS WITH PROVIDERS. I
WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE HELD SOME
ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH THE
PROVIDERS TO ASSESS LIKE WHAT
THEY WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO GROW
THEIR WORKFORCE AND EXPAND, AND
THAT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE
REASON WHY THIS LEGISLATION IS
HELPFUL, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF
STAFFING THAT IS REQUIRED TO
EXPAND AN EXISTING SITE IS
ACTUALLY LESS, THEN HAVING A
BRAND-NEW LOCATION, BECAUSE A
LOT OF THESE LOCATIONS WILL
ALREADY HAVE 24/7 STAFFING AND
CASE MANAGEMENT IN PLACE, SO
THERE ARE KIND OF ORDERS OF
MAGNITUDE THAT YOU CAN KIND OF
ADDRESS, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
HAVING WITH PROVIDERS, TURN TO
HS D AND TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE
HEARING IN TERMS OF THEM BEING
ABLE TO STEP INTO THESE INITIAL
SITES.
>> YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE
HAVING INITIAL CONVERSATIONS
RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUS WAY, THE WEST
SITE WAS JUST ANNOUNCED, WE ARE
EXCITED ABOUT THAT, SO VERY
EARLY ON THE PLANNING STAGES
THERE. I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS
INITIAL SET OF SHELTERS IS TO
WORK WITH PROVIDERS WHO FEEL
THEY HAVE A CAPACITY RIGHT NOW
TO STEP INTO IT IMMEDIATELY.
THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS NOW
CAN YOU TAKE THIS ON IN FOUR OR
LESS MONTHS AND REALLY SUPPORT
THAT WORK, AND I THINK, AGAIN,
TO LEAN ON THE HIGH ACUITY WORK
GROUP AND THE EFFORT THAT WILL
COME FROM THAT, KIND OF
CONFIRMING THAT AS WELL
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST
WANT TO CONNECT THE DOTS AGAIN
BETWEEN SOME OF THE
CONVERSATIONS I HAD IN THE
COMMITTEE THAT I CHAIR, OUR
HUMAN SERVICES LABOR ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, RECENTLY
HAVING THAT DISCUSSION ON WAGE
EQUITY AND THE CHALLENGES AND
BEING ABLE TO HIRE AND RETAIN
THE WORKFORCE THAT WE ALL AGREE
THAT WE NEED, SO HOPING WE CAN
CONNECT THE DOTS ON THOSE TO
RUSSIANS, SO WE CAN REALLY
DELIVER ON THE STAFFING SUPPORT
THAT OUR NEIGHBORS FRANKLY
DESERVE , AND THEIR [ INAUDIBLE
] ABILITY, SO, THANK YOU, CHAIR,
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR BEING
HERE TODAY. TEXT THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
ALL FOR BEING HERE, REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY
AND ALL THE PRESENTATION ON
THIS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE
GREAT PANEL OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE,
SO WE CAN JUST GET DIFFERENT
INFORMATION. THE FIRST THING I
WANTED TO ASK , FOR THE FIRST
500 SHELTERS, COULD YOU ALL JUST
WALK US THROUGH, WHO ARE WE
PRIORITIZING FOR THESE BEDS IN
THE SHELTERS, AND IS IT HIGH
ACUITY FOLKS? [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR
THE FIRST 500.
>> YEAH, I THINK THE FIRST 500
IS A FOCUS ON FOLKS WHO ARE HIGH
ACUITY, AND I THINK EVEN WITHIN
THAT TERM, THERE IS NUANCE.
THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE
GOING TO REQUIRE PRETTY, YOU
KNOW, SIGNIFICANT SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER COUNSELING, AND THEY
HAVE A CO-OCCURRING MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUE. WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE, LIKE NOT EVERY BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH PROVIDER DOES ALL OF
THOSE THINGS. SOME MAY DO ONE,
SOME ME TO THE OTHER, SOME DO
BOTH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW
THAT THERAPEUTIC HEALTH SERVICES
ACTUALLY PROVIDES BOTH OF THOSE
SERVICES, AND WHAT THEY WILL DO
IS ACTUALLY HIRE STAFF THAT ARE
LICENSED BOTH AS A MENTAL HEALTH
COUNSELOR, AS WELL AS A
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
COUNSELOR, SO THERE KIND OF CODE
LICENSED IN THAT WAY. THEY'RE
GOING TO BE SOME PROGRAMS THAT
WILL REQUIRE THAT DEEPER LEVEL
OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUPPORT AND
THEN THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT,
YOU KNOW, MAY NEED NOT QUITE AS
MUCH AS THAT LEVEL OF
ASSISTANCE, BUT MAYBE THEY WOULD
STILL BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING
LIKE , YOU KNOW, A SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER TREATMENT PROGRAM, AND
THOSE ARE FOLKS THAT MAY BE, YOU
KNOW, IN A MANNER OF TIME CAN
STABILIZE AND GET ACCESS TO
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND
MOVE THEM AS THOSE UNITS BECOME
AVAILABLE. SO, I THINK THE FIRST
500 IS THAT RANGE OF LIKE
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FOLKS, AND
WITHIN THAT RANGE, FOLKS CAN BE
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FOR LOTS OF
DIFFERENT REASONS, RIGHT? IT
COULD BE A DISABLING CONDITION,
MAYBE SOMEONE HAS A PHYSICAL
DISABILITY THAT PREVENTS HIM
FROM HAVING, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINED
EMPLOYMENT, AND THEY ARE ON
SDCI, AND AS WE KNOW, THAT IS
NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH [ INAUDIBLE
]. IF THEY GET INTO A SHIFTER
PROGRAM, BUT THEY DON'T
NECESSARILY NEED LIKE ONGOING ,
YOU KNOW, TREATMENT SERVICES,
WHAT THEY NEED IS PROBABLY
SOMEBODY TO HELP THEM GET THEIR
I.D. AND GET CONNECTED TO A
RENTAL SUBSIDY PROGRAM TO MOVE
THEM INTO HOUSING SO, WITHIN
THAT RANGE OF CHRONICALLY
HOMELESS FOLKS, THERE IS GOING
TO BE A DIFFERENT SUBSET OF WHAT
THOSE NEEDS ARE, BUT I WOULD SAY
FOR THE FIRST 500, IF WE ARE
LOOKING TO SORT OF CHRONICALLY
HOMELESS FOLKS AND FOR THE NEXT
500, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT A
BROADER SEGMENT OF THE
POPULATION THAN FOLKS WHO ARE
CURRENTLY STUCK IN SHELTER, WHO
MIGHT BE LIKE A LARGE FAMILY AND
IT IS HARD TO FIND A FOUR
BEDROOM APARTMENT THAT THEY CAN
AFFORD. SO, I THINK FOR THOSE
TYPES OF SITUATIONS, WE WOULD
PROBABLY PIVOT TO ANOTHER MODEL
LIKE SOME SORT OF RENTAL
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
>> UNDERSTOOD, THAT IS SUPER
HELPFUL. BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD AN
AMENDMENT FOR FAMILIES AND
CHILDREN, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT
THAT , WE TRY TO OBVIOUSLY WORK
WITH OUR MAYOR'S OFFICE TO GIVE
A LITTLE RUNWAY. FOR THE FIRST
1000 SHELTERS FOR THAT, BECAUSE
A LOT OF THOSE FAMILIES ARE
SLEEPING IN CARS OR THEY ARE AT
CAL ANDERSON PARK, THERE ARE AT
DIFFERENT PLACES, THEY ARE DOING
COUCH SURFING. A LOT OF TIMES,
WE DON'T SEE THEM,
UNFORTUNATELY, AND THAT'S WHO I
AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. I KNOW
OUR COLLEAGUES ARE AS WELL,
WANTING TO GET THEM INTO SOME
TYPE OF SHELTER, AND THEN ON TO
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW FROM HSD
LESSONS LEARNED. SO, WE HEARD
FROM YOU ALL OR FROM THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND PROVIDERS
WHAT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDED TO DO
BETTER, RIGHT? WITH CUTTING THE
RED TAPE, GETTING STUFF ONLINE
FASTER. WHAT HAS HSD LEARNED
ABOUT PROVIDERS, WHAT IS WORKING
WELL AND WHAT IS NOT WORKING
WELL AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE
DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS 500
SHELTERS THAT WE ARE PUTTING
ONLINE THAT IS GOING TO BE
BETTER, TO HAVE BETTER OUTCOMES?
>> I THINK PARTNERSHIP IS REALLY
CRITICAL. I THINK WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE HAD SHARED JUST
ABOUT THE WORK TO DEVELOP HIS
SHELTERS IS A MAJOR ISSUE. I
WILL SAY, LOOKING BACK AT THE
STAR CENTER WORKER RECENTLY,
IT'S BEEN SUPER INFORMATIVE
THERE. HSD WORKED REALLY CLOSELY
WITH OUR PARTNERS AT KING COUNTY
REGIONAL HOMELESS AUTHORITY AND
OBVIOUSLY DES C, BUT A BROADER
COALITION AS WELL. TO LOOK AT
WHAT IS THAT PROGRAM ACHIEVING
AND HOW ARE WE ACHIEVING THE
GOALS THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT? HOW
ARE FOLKS [ INAUDIBLE ] INTO THE
SHELTERS AS WELL, WHEN DO WE
HAVE TO PAY BUT, AND WE MEET ON
A MONTHLY BASIS AS WELL, TO SEE
HOW THINGS ARE GOING. AND I
THINK ALSO OUT OF THE PROGRAM,
JUST HOW ARE WE AS A PROGRAM
DOING IN THE COMMUNITY AND
NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO LOOK AT
ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP, SO I
THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GREAT
SUCCESS LAST YEAR IN LAUNCHING
THAT PROGRAM QUICKLY, AND I
THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF LESSONS
LEARNED ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT
CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT PIECE.
>> AWESOME, UNDERSTOOD, AND A
FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, MR. CHAIR, IF
I MAY? I ALWAYS WANT TO CHECK
WITH THE CHAIR. THE OTHER
QUESTION I HAVE, TOO, IS HOW DO
WE SEE KING COUNTY REGIONAL
HOMELESS AUTHORITY PLAYING INTO
THIS EXPANSION, OR DO THEY HAVE
A ROLE? OR IS IT -- WE ARE
STARTING TO TRANSITION SOME OF
THEIR WORK PLAN OR WHAT WE HAVE
EXPECTED THEM TO DO, ARE WE
TRANSITIONING THAT A LITTLE BIT
NOW TO WHAT WE ARE DOING AT THE
CITY, BECAUSE THOSE OUTCOMES
HAVE NOT BEEN WHAT -- I WILL
JUST BE FRANK OF THE PUBLIC HAS
ANTICIPATED FOR THE MONEY THAT
WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING OR GIVING
TO KING COUNTY REGIONAL HOMELESS
AUTHORITY.
>> I WILL LET JON TAKE A CRACK
AT THIS, THEN I WILL TAKE OVER
IF I NEED TO.
>> KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK. [
INAUDIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. WE HAVE, I THINK, A
VERY IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP AND
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE KING
COUNTY REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS
AUTHORITY. LABEL THE MAJORITY,
IF NOT ALL OF THE SHELTER
CONTRACTS FOR THE CITY THAT HAVE
MOVED OVER EVER SINCE IT'S AN
OPTION. AND I THINK THAT
COLLABORATION WILL CONTINUE. WE
HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH
THEM ABOUT BEST PRACTICES,
LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT THEY
HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURING
SOME OF THEIR CONTRACTS FOR
SHELTER PROVIDERS AND SEEING IF
THERE IS SOME MODELING THERE
THAT WE WANT TO EMULATE. AND IN
TERMS OF WHAT IS THE LONG-TERM
VIEW, I THINK THAT DIFFERENT
TASKS CALL FOR DIFFERENT [
INAUDIBLE ], AND I THINK THE
DIRECTION THAT THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE IS HEADING TOWARDS IS TO
QUICKLY STAND THESE INITIAL
SHELTERS UP AS FAST AS POSSIBLE,
AND THE CITY JUST HAS UNIQUE
ASSETS THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO
[ INAUDIBLE ]. WE HAVE THE
FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE
SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS
INCREDIBLE EXPERTISE IN REAL
ESTATE AND NEGOTIATING LEASES.
WE HAVE ALL THE STRENGTH WITH
SDCI ABOUT HOW TO EXPEDITE
PERMITTING, SO THE CITY HAD SOME
UNIQUE TOOLS TO ACT QUICKLY ON
STANLEY'S UP. I THINK THAT IS
NOT -- THAT IS SEEN AS BEING A
PARALLEL TO THE WORK THAT WE ARE
ALSO STILL DOING, AND THE WORK
THAT THEY ARE DOING TO OPERATE
EXISTING SHELTERS.
>> YEAH, AND MY FINAL QUESTION,
BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE ON
CAPITOL HILL WHEN WE STOOD UP
SHELTERS VERY QUICKLY, THERE WAS
-- I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS
OFTEN, THERE WAS A SHELTER THAT
WAS STOOD UP AND CAPITOL HILL,
PEOPLE WERE [ INAUDIBLE ] VERY
FAST, AND IT WAS A MESS, AND [
INAUDIBLE ] WE DO NOT HAVE FOLKS
ON SITE. IT WAS QUICKLY SET UP,
I WAS HAPPY THAT WE GOT SHELTER,
BUT WE DID NOT HAVE THE PROPER
AMOUNT OF SUPERVISION ,
COUNSELORS, AND PEOPLE TO WALK
FOLKS DAY TODAY THROUGH WHATEVER
ISSUES FOLKS WERE HAVING, SO WE
CAN HAVE POSITIVE OUTCOMES, SO I
THINK THAT IS A LITTLE BIT ON
PEOPLE'S MIND WHEN THEY HEAR
QUICKLY, THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY,
THIS IS QUICKLY, BUT WHAT ARE WE
DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
FOUNDATION IS BUILT PROPERLY.
THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS SAY, WHAT
IS THE FOUNDATION BUILT
PROPERLY? SO, WORKING WITH YOUR
OFFICE AND OBVIOUSLY THAT IS
REALLY IMPORTANT TO US DISTRICT
3 HAS ABSORBED A LOT OF LOW
BARRIER SHELTERS AND PERMANENT
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH THE
CAPITOL HILL NEIGHBORHOOD IS
WELCOMING, THERE ARE OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I KNOW THAT
HAVE SAID, HEY, WHAT ARE THE
SERVICES AND WHAT IS THE
ACCOUNTABILITY METRICS BEING
PROVIDED FOR IN THESE SHELTERS
TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS
SAFE, THEY ARE PROTECTED, AND
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE THE
RESOURCES THEY NEED , WHO ARE
ALL NAVIGATING THIS TOGETHER.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE
NEIGHBORHOOD -- WELL, A COUPLE,
BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY, VERY
EXCITED FOR THESE. YES, WE WANT
TO GET PEOPLE HELP, BUT THE FEAR
THAT WE HEAR FROM FOLKS IS LIKE,
HEY, [ INAUDIBLE ], CAN WE MAKE
SURE THERE ARE POSITIVE OUTCOMES
THAT WE WANT. SO, ANYWAYS, WHEN
I HEAR THE WORD QUICKLY, I'M
LIKE YES MAC QUICKLY, AND WHAT
ELSE ARE WE DOING AS WELL? SO,
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK
YOU TO EVERYONE FOR PRESENTING
TODAY. I'M JUST GOING TO
BRIEFLY SHARE SOME REFLECTIONS
FROM THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I
KNOW THAT WE ARE RUNNING TIGHT
ON TIME. THERE IS ANOTHER
PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE TO GET
THROUGH TODAY. JUST REAL QUICKLY
ON STAFFING, I KNOW THAT
STAFFING TAKES TIME TO GET
PEOPLE INTO THEIR JOBS. DO WE
HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF, YOU
KNOW, PART OF THIS CONVERSATION,
I GUESS JON, TO A DIRECT POINT
OF QUESTION HERE, I APPRECIATE
YOU SAYING THAT THE FOCUS ON THE
FIRST 500 WILL BE ON HIGH NEEDS
OR HIGH ACUITY PEOPLE. WHEN YOU
WERE PRESENTING AND TALKING
ABOUT THAT THERE ARE IN FACT
PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO DON'T NEED
THAT LEVEL OF SERVICES, I AGREE
WITH YOU, AND I POSIT THAT WE
ALREADY HAVE THAT LEVEL OF
SHELTER EXISTING TODAY. WHAT WE
ARE MISSING RIGHT NOW IN THIS
CRITICAL MOMENT IS THAT HIGHER
ACUITY SHELTER. I SAY THAT, YOU
KNOW, JUST IN MY ANECDOTAL
EXPERIENCE ACROSS THE CITY IN
DISTRICT 6. I KNOW THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING
HOMELESS IN THE CITY AND IN
BALLARD IN PARTICULAR HAVE BEEN
KICKED OUT OF TINY HOMES BECAUSE
IT IS NOT THE RIGHT LEVEL OF
SERVICE. AND SO, WE NEED THIS
NEXT LEVEL OF SERVICE. IT IS NOT
JUST STOPPING TO ME, IT IS
ESCALATION TEAMS, IT IS NOT THE
BEHAVIOR REALISTIC, A FRONT
DESK, IT IS THAT THERE IS A TEAM
OF PEOPLE READY TO CATCH THAT
PERSON WHO IS FALLING INTO
CRISIS AND THAT WE CAN MEET
THEIR NEEDS, AND SO, WITH THAT,
DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR ON
BOARDING STUFF AND [ INAUDIBLE ]
ABLE TO HIRE AND TRAIN ALL THESE
FOLKS?
>> I WILL KICK US OFF, THEN HAS
TO JON. I JUST WANT TO RESPOND
TO COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS'S
COMMENT AND COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH'S COMMENT, I JUST
WANT TO REITERATE TO THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT WE VERY
MUCH ASSURE YOUR INTEREST,
COMMITMENT, CONCERN AROUND
MAKING SURE THAT THESE SHELTERS
ARE STAFFED APPROPRIATELY, THAT
WE'RE STRIKING THE RIGHT
BALANCE BETWEEN RESPONDING WITH
URGENCY AND ALSO DOING IT WELL.
WE ARE VERY WELL AWARE THAT
EVERY TIME SOMETHING DOESN'T GO
WELL, IT DAMAGES OUR ABILITY TO
DO IT IN THE FUTURE, SO I AGAIN
JUST WANT TO REITERATE OUR
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR
PARTNERSHIP, FOR YOUR ASKING US
THE HARD QUESTIONS, FOR TRYING
TO DO A HARD THING TOGETHER. IF
IT WAS EASY, IT WOULD BE DONE BY
NOW. I THINK WE ARE LOOKING
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO PARTNER
WITH YOU THROUGHOUT THIS
IMPLEMENTATION AS WE, YOU KNOW,
WORK THROUGH WHAT WE THINK IS
GOING TO WORK, LEARN WHAT IS NOT
QUITE HITTING THE MARKET, AND
MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED,
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A MAYOR'S
OFFICE THAT WANTS TO TAKE A
RIBBON AND KIND OF CLAIM A
VICTORY WHEN THERE IS NOT
ACTUALLY A REAL RESULT ON THE
GROUND, SO WE ARE REALLY
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH YOU
ALL TO SEE THE RESULTS AND WE
ARE WELL AWARE THAT THE PROOF IS
IN THE PUDDING AND WE WILL FIND
OUT SOON IF WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING GOES THE WAY WE HOPE
IT WILL, AND I THINK WE FEEL
VERY CONFIDENT WITH WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING HERE AND WHAT WE ARE
WORKING ON TOGETHER, WE WILL GET
THE RESULTS THAT WE NEED. WITH
THAT, I WILL PASS IT TO JON TO
TALK ABOUT STAFFING AND HOW WE
ARE DOING.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT IS AN
EXCELLENT RESTAURANT,
COUNCILMEMBER. I WILL KIND OF
TURNED TO HSD TO TALK ABOUT THE
CONVERSATIONS THEY HAVE BEEN
HAVING WITH PROVIDERS, BUT IN NO
SCENARIO WOULD BE OPEN A SHELTER
PROGRAM THAT WE WERE NOT
CONFIDENT WAS CAPABLE OF BEING
FULLY STOCKED AND ABLE TO
PROVIDE THE NECESSARY SERVICES
TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IT IS
IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD , [ INAUDIBLE ],
THE CLIENTS AND PROGRAM
PARTICIPANTS. I WILL SAY THAT
FOR THE CONVERSATIONS WE ARE
HAVING WITH PROVIDERS, THAT IS
WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM. WE ARE
ASKING THEM, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE
TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE? WHAT
WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT
YOU CAN STAFF APPROPRIATELY? AND
EVERY PROVIDER IS GOING TO HAVE
A DIFFERENT ANSWER. SOME
PROVIDERS ARE MAY BE LARGER THAN
OTHERS AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY
SHIFT STAFF AROUND, AND AS THEY
ARE IN THE PROCESS OF STAFFING
UP, SOME [ INAUDIBLE ] MIGHT BE
SMALLER, AND YOU NEED ADDITIONAL
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO GET THEM
TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TO
OPENING UP THE SECOND AND SO,
EVERY CONVERSATION IS BEING DONE
IN, I THINK, AN INTENTIONAL WAY,
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FINDING A
GOOD MATCH, A GOOD FIT FOR THE
SERVICE PROVIDER IN THEIR
CAPACITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
CAN OPEN UP THESE SITES
SUCCESSFULLY. BUT AGAIN, I WILL
TURN IT BACK TO HSD AND TALK
ABOUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
>> YEAH, I DON'T THINK I HAVE A
GREAT DEAL MORE TO ADD, BUT I
WILL SAY, AS PART OF THOSE
CONVERSATIONS, I THINK IT IS
TALKING TO PROVIDERS ABOUT WHEN
DOING A CONTRACT TO BE EXECUTED,
WHEN DO YOU NEED TO ONWARD, WHAT
KIND OF FLEXIBILITY AND
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CAN WE
PROVIDE TO GIVE YOU THAT
CONTRACT TO BEGIN THE WORK, TO
BE READY ONCE THE SITE IS FULLY
DEVELOPED, SO I THINK THAT'S
REALLY WHAT IS KEY AND THE
STAGGERING OF WHEN STAFF GET
HIRED AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE
THAT THE POSSIBILITY FOR THEM TO
BE READY TO GO, AND CONFIDENT
THAT THEY CAN HANDLE THIS
OPERATIONS.
>> AND I MIGHT ADD TO THAT.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
>> OH, I'M SORRY.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, I KNOW I
HAVE ALREADY TAKEN UP FIVE
MINUTES, SO I'M JUST GOING TO
ASK ONE MORE QUESTION JUST TO
UNDERSTAND. I THINK I'VE HAD A
DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE WITH SDCI
THAN THE COMMITTEE TABLE, AND
THAT IS JUST STATING WE HAD AN
AUDIT OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS
DONE IN 2023 POINT I KNOW THAT
SDCI IS WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW,
BUT IT IS THREE YEARS LATER AND
THEY HAVEN'T HAD THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS ACHIEVED YET.
AND SPECIFICALLY, EVEN WITH THE
EXPEDITED PERMITTING FOR, YOU
KNOW, SHELTERS AND HOUSING, IT
WAS MY EXPERIENCE [ INAUDIBLE ]
SAFE LOT THAT SDCI SLOWED THE
PROCESS DOWN AND ACTUALLY
REDUCED THE NUMBER OF RVs THAT
WE COULD HOST ON THAT SITE IN A
TEMPORARY WAY, AND SO, MY
QUESTION, AND I WILL ADD A
CHARGE HERE FOR THE TABLE, FOR
THE COMMITTEE TABLE. I BROUGHT
THIS UP AT THE LAST COMMITTEE,
EVERETT, THE SEVENTH LARGEST
CITY IN THE STATE, NOT THE
FIRST, SEVENTH, THEY WERE ABLE
FROM THE MOMENT THAT THEIR
SHELTERS ARRIVED ON A LOCATION,
48 HOURS LATER, THAT ENTIRE
SHELTER SITE WAS ONLINE. AND IT
MIGHT HAVE EVEN BEEN BEFORE
THAT, THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE ALL
PERMITTING IN 48 HOURS AS WELL.
SO, MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS TO
MEET OR BEAT EVERETT'S RECORD
AND GET THAT SHELTER SITE [
INAUDIBLE ] TURNED ON WITHIN 48
HOURS OF RECEIVING PERMITS,
BECAUSE IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT
IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS
CONVEYED , AND SO, THAT IS MY
CHALLENGE TO YOU, MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT, LOCATE,
AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS
SHELTER SITES WITHIN 48 HOURS.
ALSO NOTE, AND I DON'T NEED THE
ANSWER NOW IN THE INTEREST OF
TIME, THAT IT WAS REPRESENTED BY
THE COMMITTEE TABLE THAT THERE
ARE CONTINUING TO BE MONTHLY
MEETINGS WITH THE TINY HOME
VILLAGES. I CAN SAY THAT THE TWO
THAT ARE CLOSEST HERE IN
DISTRICT 6, THE TWO TINY HOME
VILLAGES, I DON'T EXPERIENCE
ISSUES WITH THEM. THEIR
NEIGHBORS KNOW HOW TO GET IN
TOUCH WITH ME AND I KNOW HOW TO
GET IN TOUCH WITH THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTORS, SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT
ARISE, BUT I AM NOT AWARE OF THE
MONTHLY MEETINGS. SO, IF WE AS A
CITY THINK THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR, I WOULD
LIKE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF
WHEN AND HOW THOSE OCCUR. I WILL
TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMITTEE
TABLE FOR ANY RESPONSES TO THE
48 HOUR CHALLENGE, AND WE CAN
FOLLOW UP LATER ABOUT THE
MONTHLY MEETINGS.
>> I APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE,
COUNCILMEMBER. I'M DEFINITELY
INTERESTED IN REACHING OUT TO
EVERETT TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE
DOING, HOW THEY ARE ACHIEVING
THAT, VERY IMPRESSIVE. I BELIEVE
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE DOING FIVE TO
10 BUSINESS DAY PERMITTING
TURNAROUND FOR THESE PROJECTS ,
EXTENSIVE COACHING AHEAD OF
TIME, AND WE HAVE RECENTLY
ADJUSTED OUR PROCESS TO DO MORE
PRE-SUBMITTAL COACHING WITH ALL
THE VARIOUS OTHER PERMITTING
DEPARTMENTS AS WELL TO TRY TO
GET THESE ALLOCATIONS COMPLETE
AND WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AND
ADDRESS ISSUES UP FRONT TO
REALLY EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, SO,
DEFINITELY TRYING A BUNCH OF
THINGS, AND EXCITED TO CONTINUE
TO IMPROVE.
>> THANK YOU, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED? LET'S BE
EVERETT. LET'S BE EVERETT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIRMAN
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER?
>> THE THANK YOU SO MUCH,
CHAIRMAN AND COLLEAGUES, I'M
GOING TO LET YOU KNOW IN
ADVANCE, I HAVE ABOUT SIX
QUESTIONS, MAYBE SEVEN, WE WILL
SEE. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
PRESENTERS, I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME. I WANT TO START FIRST
WITH, I KNOW THAT RECENTLY THE
MAYOR ANNOUNCED ONE OF THE SITES
FOR THE SHELTER EXPANSION AND I
WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE,
SPECIFICALLY WHETHER OR NOT YOU
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY A
LOCATION FOR THE 250 UNIT PILOT
SITE
>> HI, COUNCILMEMBER, NO, WE
HAVE NOT, WE HAVE NOT LOCATED A
SPECIFIC LOCATION. I THINK THE
THINKING HERE IS THAT IT WOULD
BE PREMATURE TO IDENTIFY A
LOCATION UNTIL THIS LEGISLATION
PASSES AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU
KNOW, OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS
THAT ARE OUT THERE, WE DID GIVE
AN EXAMPLE OF THE LAST COMMITTEE
MEETING FOR CAMP SECOND CHANCE,
JUST TO KIND OF ILLUSTRATE WHAT
THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. I THINK
FOLKS -- IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO
PICTURE MAYBE WHAT TYPE OF
PROGRAM WOULD BE A GOOD FIT. AND
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME SITES
OUT THERE THAT HAVE A PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC
LAND ALONG THEM THAT COULD BE
UTILIZED, BUT WE HAVE NOT
DECIDED , YOU KNOW, WHAT
PARTICULAR LOCATION WE MIGHT
WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. I
THINK WE WANT TO HAVE A LOT MORE
INTENTIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH
EACH COUNCILMEMBER ABOUT SITES
IN THEIR DISTRICT BEFORE MOVING
FORWARD.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. THIS
QUESTION ACTUALLY DOESN'T NEED
A RESPONSE, IT JUST NEEDS A
RESPONSE LATER, I JUST WANTED TO
FOLLOW UP ON THE QUESTION THAT
CAME FROM COUNCIL PRESIDENT
HOLLINGSWORTH EARLIER IN TERMS
OF LESSONS LEARNED, AND I WANT
TO REQUEST SPECIFICALLY THAT --
I KNOW WE HAVE THE IAT THAT IS
GOING TO COME UP NOW THINGS
LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED
YESTERDAY, I WANT TO REQUEST
SPECIFICALLY THAT HSD BRINGS
INTO THAT CONVERSATION A MORE
THOROUGH RESPONSE TO THOSE
LESSONS LEARNED. I THINK YOU
GAVE US A GOOD OVERVIEW TODAY,
BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE BEEN
ENGAGING WITH PROVIDERS THAT WE
HAVE HEARD A NUMBER OF THINGS,
INCLUDING THE STAFF RATIO AS ONE
OPTION. WE HAVE HEARD QUESTIONS
AROUND REQUIRING CASE MANAGEMENT
AS ONE OPTION, SO I WANT TO GET
MORE RESPONSE , SO WE CAN
CONSIDER THOSE AND MAKE SURE WE
HAVE THE HIGH ACUITY WORKGROUP
WORKING WELL OFF THE BAT, SO
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN I
WANT TO'S TURN TO SLIDE 10 IF
WE CAN, PLEASE, I BELIEVE IT IS
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
HOLCOMBE'S SLIDES, WHEN WE WERE
LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SAFETY
CONSIDERATIONS, YET, THERE WE
GO. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE
THIS OVERVIEW AND UPDATE THAT
YOU GAVE AND I WANT TO JUST GET
A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED
RESPONSES. IN PARTICULAR, I KNOW
THAT WE HEARD A COUPLE MONTHS
AGO WHEN FOLKS WERE AT THE TABLE
AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT OF
SPECIFIC STRATEGIES, AND I WOULD
LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHERE WE
ARE IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW,
LIKE WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT
WHAT ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT MEANS
AND WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GET
THESE DETAILS.
>> EACH PRECINCT , THE CAPTAINS
AND PATROL OFFICERS AND
DETECTIVES WORKING WITH THOSE
GEOGRAPHIC [ INAUDIBLE ]
UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS FOR
EXAMPLE. OUR MONITORING
LOCATIONS TO OBSERVE SUSPECTED
-- THESE MID-LEVEL DRUG DEALERS
LIKE WE HAVE BEEN CALLING THEM,
WHO TRAVEL TO SITES , ENGAGE IN
COMMERCIAL TRANSACTIONS, LEAVE
THE SITES. SOME OF THIS
INFORMATION COMES IN FROM
NEIGHBORS TO OBSERVE, TO TAKE
PICTURES OF THEIR OWN CELL
PHONES, SOME OF THE INFORMATION
COMES FROM BEING ON SITE WHEN
OFFICERS ARE ACCOMPANYING USED
CT SITE VISITS, AND SO, THAT
PIECE -- I DON'T KNOW THAT
THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE DETAIL
THAT WE WILL BE PUBLISHING ABOUT
WHAT AN UNDERCOVER OPERATION
MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT IS
PROBABLY THE PRIMARY TOOL THAT
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND I WILL
OFFER, AGAIN, WHAT I THINK I
OFFERED IN THE LAST HEARING,
WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
EVENT, SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS QUITE WILLING TO MEET WITH
COUNCILMEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY TO
IDENTIFY SPECIFIC SITES WITHIN
DISTRICTS THAT THERE MAY BE
CONCERNS OR WHERE YOU ARE
HEARING MORE FROM CONSTITUENTS
ABOUT WHAT APPEARS TO BE
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED
WITH A PARTICULAR [ INAUDIBLE ].
>> I SET IT AROUND THE TABLE
EARLIER THIS WEEK, I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE ASK QUESTIONS
AROUND SAFETY AND THAT WE ALL
YOUR QUESTIONS FROM COMMUNITY
MEMBERS. WE HEAR QUESTIONS FROM
FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING IN THE TINY
HOME VILLAGES, AS WELL AS
NEIGHBORS, AND ASKING THOSE
QUESTIONS DOES NOT MEAN THAT
TINY HOME VILLAGES ARE
INHERENTLY DANGEROUS I WANT TO
STATE THAT PLAINLY AND CLEARLY.
I HAVE THREE THAT I CAN WALK TO
FROM MY HOUSE. MYSELF AND MY
NEIGHBORS WELCOMED THEM AS PART
OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WITH THAT,
I WILL GO UNTIL MY FOLLOW-UP
QUESTION. THE SIDE WAS HELPFUL,
BUT I WANT TO GET INTO SOME OF
THE DETAILS HERE. IT MAY BE THAT
YOU CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL. YOU
MENTIONED THE DRUG DEALING ON
THE SORT OF ATTEMPTS TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF FOLKS IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES. ARE THERE OTHER
KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE
COMING TO MIND HIM COMING INTO
FOCUS HERE?
>> THE THREE CATEGORIES OF
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT APPEARED
TO BE MORE PREVALENT IN CONCERNS
ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS REALLY DEAL
WITH THE VULNERABILITY OF THE
POPULATIONS THERE, SO IN
ADDITION TO PEOPLE TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT PEOPLE ARE
SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE USE ,
WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
HUMAN TRAFFICKING, AND FINALLY,
THE ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT
AND/OR BASIC METAL, STEALING
COPPER WIRES FROM COMMERCIAL
SITES, CONSTRUCTION SITES, ET
CETERA. AND SETTING UP SHOP IN
RVs THAT ARE PARKED CLOSE TO
ENCAMPMENTS. AN RV OR SPECIFIC
TENT THAT IS NOT TOO FAR FROM AN
ENCAMPMENT WHERE YOU HAVE REALLY
A CONCENTRATION OF ILLICIT
COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY OCCURRING
OUT OF THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION,
AND TO YOUR POINT, IT'S ONE OR
TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR A LOT OF THIS ACTIVITY THAT
IS OF CONCERN TO COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TURN
TO SOME QUESTIONS THAT MY
COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ,
PASSED ON, SINCE SHE COULDN'T
ATTEND TODAY, SO I WANT TO ASK
THOSE FOR HER. CAN YOU JUST
SHARE MORE ABOUT HOW THE
VICINITY OF SHELTER PROGRAMS IS
TO FIND? WE'VE GOT SOME
LANGUAGE THAT IS ON THIS SLIDE.
X WE DON'T HOUSE SPECIFIC
MEASUREMENTS AT THIS TIME. WHAT
I CAN SHARE JUST ANECDOTALLY IS
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I WENT ON A
FIELD TRIP WITH YOU CT TO SOME
SITES, THERE WAS ONE 10th THAT
WAS ALLEGED TO BE A LOCATION OF
A PERSON ENGAGING IN DRUG
DEALING THAT WAS ROUGHLY TWO
BLOCKS FROM ONE OF THE MULTIPLE
ENCAMPMENTS ACROSS THE BALLARD
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHERE WE
WERE VISITING. SOME MAY BE
ACTUALLY WITHIN THE ENCAMPMENT
ITSELF. YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE TENT
TO THE MIDDLE OF AN ENCAMPMENT.
THERE WAS ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE
THAT APPEARED TO BE WHAT WAS
HAPPENING AT THAT ACTIVITY. A
THIRD LOCATION THAT WE VISITED,
AN RV WAS POINTED OUT TO ME THAT
WAS -- NO INFORMATION SUGGESTING
THAT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVED
IN THAT RV OR RESIDED IN THAT RV
-- EXCUSE ME, I WOULD SAY, AS A
POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAY NOT
ACTUALLY MEAN LIVING IN THAT RV,
BUT MAYBE LIVING IN A HOME OR AN
APARTMENT CLOSE BY AND USING
THAT RV AS A LOCATION.
GENERALLY, I WOULD SAY WITHIN
WALKING DISTANCE OF INDIVIDUALS
THAT ARE NOT LIKELY TO WALK VERY
FAR FROM THERE ENCAMPMENTS, TO
BE ABLE TO ACCESS ILLICIT
SUBSTANCES FOR EXAMPLE, SO
DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC
MEASUREMENTS, AND APPRECIATE
THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS
BEEN DISCUSSED , AND IT MAY BE
USEFUL FOR US TO HAVE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE
DATA CAN SHOW US AS WE START TO
HAVE INVESTIGATIVE OPERATIONS
COMPLETED.
>> THANK YOU. AND THEN MY FINAL
QUESTION, IT IS STILL SORT OF IN
THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM, BUT
MAYBE A DIFFERENT APPROACH, I
KNOW THAT SOME OF THE PROVIDERS
HAVE WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
WHO THEN HELP WITH MAKING SURE
THAT THE FOLKS WHO WERE THERE
WERE SAFE, SO I KNOW SOME THE
PROVIDERS HAVE A CONTRACT WITH
WE DELIVER CARE, FOR EXAMPLE,
AND THAT FOCUS IS ON MAKING SURE
THAT THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE
ENCAMPMENT [ INAUDIBLE ] AND
THEY HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO
TREATMENT, THE FATHER ACCESS TO
CASE MANAGEMENT, AND THEN THERE
IS SORT OF A WAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT THOSE HOPES ARE ALSO SAFE
COMING AND GOING. IS THAT ALSO
PART OF THE CURRENT CONVERSATION
AS WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE
APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AND
GIVEN SORT OF THE SPD COMPONENT
TODAY, AND I'M CURIOUS WHERE
THAT SORT OF COLLABORATIVE OR
INTEGRATIVE MODEL MIGHT FIT INTO
THE APPROACH.
>> WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE
REALLY APPRECIATED THAT COUNCIL
HAS ENGAGED US IN PROVIDING MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TEAMS THAT
CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE. I MIGHT
GET BACK TO MY COLLEAGUE IF
THERE HAVE BEEN SPECIFIC
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. WHAT I
CAN SAY FROM MY ENGAGEMENT WITH
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
CARE IS THAT ABSOLUTELY, THE
GOAL IS TO HAVE PEOPLE
AVAILABLE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
RELATIONSHIP IS WHAT IS THE KEY
TO SUCCESS.
>> WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION
WITH A FEW PROVIDERS THAT
PROVIDE DE-ESCALATION SERVICES,
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE
HAVE ASKED -- WE ARE BROUGHT
TOGETHER SOME PROVIDERS TO GIVE
FEEDBACK ON THIS LARGER EFFORT.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE
ASKED WAS WHAT WORKS BEST? LIKE
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A
CITYWIDE TEAM OF FOLKS THAT ARE
TRYING TO DO ESCALATION, THAT
CAN KIND OF BE LIKE AN ADDED
ASSET TO WHAT YOU NEED AT A
PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT CAN BE
KIND OF LIKE A MOBILE UNIT THAT
TRAVELS AROUND TO DIFFERENT
LOCATIONS AND PROVIDES SERVICES
THERE, OR ALTERNATIVELY, [
INAUDIBLE ] WITH THE PEOPLE THAT
THEY HAVE WORKING WITHIN THE
EXISTING ORGANIZATION? A GOOD
EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE STAR
CENTER, DSC STAFF IN FRONT OF
THE BUILDING TRYING TO
DE-ESCALATE SITUATIONS FROM THE
STREET , RIGHT IN THE VICINITY,
SO THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER
APPROACH. AND THE SHORT ANSWER
TO IT IS THAT WE HEAR YES, YES
AND. BOTH OF THOSE STRATEGIES
CAN WORK, AND I THINK IT IS
GOING TO DEPEND ON THE PROVIDER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT,
AND THANK YOU , REALLY BRIEFLY
AS I CONCLUDE, I'M SO PROUD TO
GET TO SPONSOR THIS LEGISLATION,
AND IN PART BECAUSE I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TO
DO THIS, I HAVE SAID THIS
BEFORE, THAT WE ARE DOING IT AND
WE ARE DOING IT WELL, AND WELL
FOR ME MEANS IT WORKS WELL FOR
THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE
COMMUNITY, AND I THINK WE WANT
TO GIVE THAT LEVEL OF ATTENTION
AND DETAIL THERE, AS WELL AS
THIS COMPONENT AROUND MAKING
SURE THAT WE ARE MANAGING AND
COLLABORATING WITH
NEIGHBORHOODS, SO WE CAN
CONTINUE TO SCALE UP, BECAUSE WE
SO DESPERATELY NEED TO, SO I
APPRECIATE THE CANDOR AND THE
RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS,
AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL GET INTO
THOSE DETAILS MORE IN THE IDT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
FOSTER. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.
WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT
SHORT ON TIME. HOPING THAT WE
CAN GO PAST 1130. WE DO HAVE AN
ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION FROM
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF, I'M
HOPING THAT THAT ONE CAN BE
PRETTY BRIEF. I KNOW MOST OF OUR
QUESTIONS WILL BE TARGETED
TOWARDS THE MAYORS OFFICE BUT I
DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
PRESENTATION, THEN WE WILL
FOLLOW UP WITH THE NEXT
LEGISLATION. REALLY, REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK
THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS, I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE MAYORS
OFFICE, REALLY BEING WILLING TO
TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS ISSUE. I
THINK FOR TOO LONG, WE HAVE NOT
-- WE HAVE EXTERNALIZED THIS ON
TO OUR PROVIDERS, WE HAVE SORT
OF POINTED IT AT COUNCIL VERSUS
MAYOR VERSUS SOME OTHER AGENCY,
AND TO ME, WE NEED TO BE TAKING
A PROACTIVE ROLE IN SITING AND
PERMIT AND IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
RESPONSE. AND SO, I REALLY,
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK
WE ALL AGREE THAT WE NEED A
ROBUST SERVICES, AND I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE
THAT AMONG OUR UNHOUSED
REGULATION, IT'S DIVERSE JUST
LIKE OUR HOUSED POPULATION,
THERE IS NOT A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL
, AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR
UNHOUSED POPULATION IS MORE
LIKELY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE
DISABILITIES, TO OF MENTAL
HEALTH, TO HAVE A SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER, AND OTHER HIGHER
NEEDS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
THE SLIDE 10 ABOUT HOW
VULNERABLE THIS POPULATION IS,
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE, THAT
THIS IS A VULNERABLE POPULATION
THAT IS OFTENTIMES EXPLOITED AND
TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, AND I THINK
THAT'S, FOR ME, WHY IT IS SO
CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE SERVICES
AND SECURITY, AND THAT WE HAVE
TINY HOME VILLAGES, BECAUSE I
THINK OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS
ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN
UNSANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS WHERE
WE DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO
PROVIDE SERVICES AND SECURITY.
AND SO, I DO THINK IT'S SO
CRITICAL THAT WE BE CAUTIOUS
ABOUT UNSANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS
NEAR OUR SANCTIONED ONES,
BECAUSE OF THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS, ALSO BECAUSE I DON'T
WANT FOLKS -- WE HAVE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PROVIDERS AND
DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE
SERVE, BUT I THINK THERE IS A
CONCERN THAT WHEN THERE IS AN
UNSANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS NEAR
THE SANCTIONED ONE THAT IT CAN
CERTIFIES AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT.
IT WILL ALSO CONFLATE THE TWO
WITHIN THE PUBLIC'S MIND THAT
SOMEHOW HIS ISSUES ARE REALLY
POPPING UP THAT IT RELATES TO
THE SANCTIONED ONE, AND SO, I
WANT TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT
I ALSO JUST REALLY APPRECIATE
THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF
THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS. I'M NOT
SURE THAT I RECALL US HAVING
SUCH A FRANK AND HONEST
CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND I
THINK THAT'S REALLY NECESSARY
FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR US TO
SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, SO, I
APPRECIATE THAT. AND FINALLY, I
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK
YOU SEE A STRONG PARTNERSHIP
COMING FROM COUNCIL. AND NOT
ONLY INSERTED THE PERMITTING,
BUT ALSO IN THE BUDGET, AT LEAST
IN MY MIND, WE ARE GOING TO NEED
TO FIND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
RESOURCES, SO AT LEAST SPEAKING
FOR MYSELF, I WANT TO DO
EVERYTHING I CAN TO PARTNER WITH
YOU ALL ON FINDING THOSE
RESOURCES. THANK YOU, MOVE ON TO
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
>> IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I
DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY
NEED TO GO INTO THE PRESENTATION
THAT WE ARE PREPARED TODAY.
PRESENTATION REMINDS THE COUNCIL
AND THOSE WATCHING ABOUT ACTIONS
THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY . TWO
BILLS WERE PASSED, ONE [
INAUDIBLE ] . FOR LARGER SITES
THAT COULD SERVE AS TRADITIONAL
ENCAMPMENTS, AND THE OTHER, THE
BUDGET BILL, WHICH [ INAUDIBLE ]
MANY OF WHICH WERE TALKED ABOUT
TODAY. A LOT OF THOSE HAVING TO
DO WITH [ INAUDIBLE ] SAFETY AND
COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS. AS
COUNCILMEMBER LIN JUST
MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT GO
ALONG WITH THE BUDGET BILL THAT
WILL HELP INFORM COUNCIL
DECISION-MAKING ABOUT ONGOING
APPROPRIATIONS TO THE
ENCAMPMENTS AS THEY ARE SET UP.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COLLEAGUES. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS
OR COMMENTS? DO WE NEED TO HAVE
THE COUNCIL OR CENTRAL STAFF
PRESENTATION, ARE WE OKAY? OKAY.
THANK YOU , COUNCILMEMBER
FOSTER, DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE US
OUT ON ANYTHING ELSE, ON NEXT
STEPS? YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER,
BUT JUST ON THE DATES.
>> YES, I HAVE TO PULL UP THE
DATES IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE I
CANNOT REMEMBER -- HERE WE GO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR, REALLY
APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU TO THE
MAYORS OFFICE TEAM, TO CENTRAL
STAFF, TO MY COLLEAGUES, AND TO
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO STAYED
TUNED IN FOR THIS LONG. AS A
REMINDER, AMENDMENTS ARE DUE ON
THE 22nd WHICH IS A WEEK FROM
TODAY. WE WILL HAVE IS UP FOR
DISCUSSION ON THE 29th AND BE
VOTED OUT OF COMMITTEE ON THE
SIXTH. AND I WILL JUST CLOSE BY
SAYING, AGAIN, I AM SO PROUD TO
SPONSOR THIS LEGISLATION AND SO
GREAT TO SEE SUCH INTENSE EARLY
ACTION COMING FROM THIS MAYORS
OFFICE. I OPENED UP SAYING
COMMENTS AROUND IT IS RIGHT THAT
WE ARE TREATING THIS LIKE THE
EMERGENCY THAT WE ARE, SO THANK
YOU FOR WORKING HARD TO SEND
THIS LEGISLATION DOWN TO US
EARLY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
ONGOING ENGAGEMENT AS WE HAVE
DUG INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
FOSTER.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. OKAY.
MOVING ON, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON
TO OUR SECOND ITEM OF BUSINESS.
WHILE THE COURT PLEASE READ
AGENDA ITEM 2?
>> COUNCIL BILL 121196, AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO LAND USE
AND ZONING, REZONING CERTAIN
LAND IN THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT,
THE FREMONT NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
MEDICINE/MILLER NEIGHBORHOOD,
THE RAINIER BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD,
REZONING LAND AND AMENDING
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO
INCREASE HOUSING SUPPLY, SUPPORT
MULTIPURPOSE REDEVELOPMENT ON
CERTAIN SITES WITH
COMMUNITY-BASED USES, REMOVE
CODE BARRIERS TO PASSIVE HOUSE,
MODULAR, AND MASS TIMBER
CONSTRUCTION AND CONVERSION FROM
COMMERCIAL SPACE TO HOUSING AND
MORE ZONES.
>> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, I KNOW
IT IS ALREADY 11:18, I AM HOPING
MAYBE WE CAN GO UNTIL NOON IF
THAT IS NOT TOO LATE. WONDERFUL.
THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT TO GO
OVER, THIS IS JUST AN INITIAL
BRIEFING, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO
HAVE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND
WORK OFF-LINE, BUT I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO GO
THROUGH THIS PRETTY EXTENSIVE
INITIAL BRIEFING. WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY, PLEASE.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I'M THE LAND-USE
POLICY AND STRATEGIC INITIATIVES
MANAGER AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING
THE TIME TO REVIEW THE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES LEGISLATION
PROPOSAL THIS MORNING. I WILL
GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, AND JUST
WANT TO NOTE AT THE TOP THAT
WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE TODAY
IS AN EXPRESSION OF MAYOR
WILSON'S VALUES, AND
SPECIFICALLY ONE THAT SHE IS
COMMUNICATING ABOUT PROVIDING
AFFORDABLE, ABUNDANT HOUSING AND
THRIVING NEIGHBORHOODS, SO, AN
ALL OF THE ABOVE TYPE HOUSING.
THE STRATEGY IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO THIS, MAYOR, AND CONTINUING
WITH HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AT
EVERY INCOME LEVEL. SO, THE
PURPOSE OF THIS LEGISLATION IS
TO MAKE SOME FOCUSED CHANGES TO
THE CITY'S LAND USE CODE AND
ZONING THAT CAN SUPPORT
ADDITIONAL HOUSING SUPPLY. THESE
CHANGES ARE FOCUSED ON HOUSING
PRODUCTION ON OPPORTUNITY SITES,
AND IN AREAS THAT ARE WELL
SERVED -- OR WELL-POSITIONED FOR
NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT
CAUSING DISPLACEMENT PRESSURE.
AND THESE CHANGES CAN BE
ADVANCED EVEN WHEN WE ARE
WORKING ON PARALLEL. THAT LAST
POINT ALSO IS CONSISTENT WITH
ONE OF VALUES THAT MAYOR WILSON
HAS EXPRESSED TO OUR OFFICE
AROUND BEING INCLUSIVE AND
ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT, SO IF WE
CAN DO SOMETHING SOON , MAKE A
SUPPORTIVE CHANGE FOR HOUSING
NOW, SHE WANTS US TO MOVE THINGS
FAST, QUICKLY.
>> THIS LEGISLATION HAS SEVEN
COMPONENTS. IT IS A BUNDLE OF
THINGS. I WILL GIVE QUICK
OVERVIEW OF EACH OF THOSE. SO,
THE LIST HERE IS -- SOME OF
THESE ARE ZONING CHANGES ON THE
MAP, OTHERS ARE CHANGES TO THE
LAND-USE CODE, SO THERE IS A
REASON ZONE IN THE FREMONT STONE
WAY AREA. THERE IS A REAL ZONE
IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THERE ARE
A FEW REZONES ON COMMUNITY SITES
LIKE YMCA SITES FOR EXAMPLE, WE
WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. WE WILL
REMOVE BARRIERS TO MODULAR AND
MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION, AND
THIS WOULD IMPLEMENT DIRECTION
FROM THE STATE IN HOUSE BILL
1193 EARLY. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD
ALSO INCREASE HEIGHT LIMITS TO
ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING IN
BELLTOWN WHERE OUR PLANNING HAS
SUGGESTED THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT IS READY FOR MORE HOUSING.
WE WOULD ALSO REMOVE CODE
BARRIERS TO CONVERSION FROM
COMMERCIAL TO HOUSING IN MORE
ZONES. AND THIS PACKAGE INCLUDES
AN INCENTIVE FOR A NEW GROCERY
STORE IN LAKE CITY SHOULD THERE
BE DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO, THAT
IS THE LIST, I'M JUST GOING TO
GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF EACH OF
THOSE ITEMS FOR YOU. SO, THE
FIRST ONE HERE IS THE REZONE IN
FREMONT STONE WAY AREA. IT IS AT
THE BASE OF STONE WAY, AND IT IS
CENTERED AROUND THE CAMPUS LAKE
ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE IS A
BROOKS SPORTS HEADQUARTERS AND
THE EVO COMPANY. AND THEY ARE
ABOUT 1000 OR SO EMPLOYEES AND A
RANGE OF WELL-PAYING JOBS, AND
FOLKS IN THIS AREA WANT TO ADD
HOUSING NEAR THOSE EMPLOYERS.
THIS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO
THE ZONES THAT ARE JUST NORTH OF
THIS AREA ALONG STONE WAY WITH A
SIMILAR HEIGHT LIMIT AND DENSITY
TO THAT. AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED
WITH PARTNERS AT THE PORT AND
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, THIS AREA IS
NOT WITHIN THE MANUFACTURING
INDUSTRIAL CENTER, IT IS WITHIN
THE FREMONT RIVER VILLAGE, AND
THERE ARE NO CONCERNS THERE.
MOVING FORWARD, THE NEXT
PROPOSAL FOR A REZONE IS IN
DOWNTOWN RETAIL CORE AREA, THIS
IS A LONG UNION STREET NEAR
FOURTH AVENUE. THIS EXTENDS A
REAL ZONE THAT THE COUNCIL DID
IN 2023, AND IT IS A CHANGE FROM
THE DOWNTOWN RETAIL CORE ZONE
THAT HAS A HEIGHT LIMIT OF A
MAXIMUM OF 170 TO THE DOWNTOWN
MIXED COMMERCIAL ZONE THAT HAS A
HEIGHT LIMIT MAXIMUM OF 440
FEET. IT WOULD DO TWO THINGS
SIMULTANEOUSLY. ON REDEVELOPMENT
SITES LIKE THE SITE OF A VACANT
FORMER CHASE BANK, IT COULD
ALLOW A NEW TOWER LIKE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT. SO, INFILL WHERE
IT'S APPROPRIATE.
SIMULTANEOUSLY, IT WOULD
INCENTIVIZE CONVERSION OF
HISTORIC STRUCTURES FROM
COMMERCIAL SPACE TO HOUSING, SO
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THOSE
TYPES OF BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA.
THAT WORKS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER
HAS MORE TRANSFERRED [ INAUDIBLE
] THAT THEY CAN SELL TO HELP
OFFSET THE COST OF THE
CONVERSION, SO DO BOTH THINGS AT
ONCE. THE NEXT THREE ZONE IS IN
THE RAINIER BEACH AREA, THIS IS
VERY CLOSE TO THE RAINIER BEACH
LIGHTHOUSE STATION. IT WOULD
CHANGE THE HATCHED AREA FROM THE
SEATTLE MIXED RAINIER BEACH, 55
HEIGHT LIMIT ZONE UP TO 125 FOOT
ZONE. THE VACANT PART OF THAT
SITE THAT YOU SEE IN THE IMAGE
IS OWNED BY [ INAUDIBLE ]
HOUSING AND IS BEING LOOKED AT
FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT. THIS WOULD ALLOW
THAT DEVELOPMENT TO REALLY
MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF HOUSING
UNITS THAT COULD BE IN IT, AND
THIS IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE
OF THE LIGHT RAIL STATION, SO IT
IS A GOOD LOCATION THE NEXT
OPPORTUNITY SITE HERE IS IN THE
U DISTRICT. THIS IS ON THE SITE
OF THE UNIVERSITY FAMILY YMCA,
AND SOME ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A FEW SITES
LIKE THIS, SO, LAST YEAR, THE
COUNCIL DID SOMETHING REALLY
COOL, WHICH WAS TO ENCOURAGE
REDEVELOPMENT OF THE LAKE CITY
COMMUNITY CENTER SITE WITH
HOUSING ABOVE, SO YOU CAN HAVE A
COMMUNITY CENTER TYPE FACILITY
WITH FLOORS OF HOUSING ABOVE
THAT. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT
IN A FEW DIFFERENT PLACES,
INCLUDING THIS ONE, SO YMCA IS
AN AGING FACILITY, IT MAY NEED
TO BE UPGRADED OR REPLACED SOON.
THEY APPROACHED THE CITY AND
SAID, HEY, CAN WE LOOK AT
REDEVELOPMENT FOR A SITE WITH A
WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSING ABOVE,
AND THIS WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT,
IT WOULD INCREASE THE ZONING
FROM A MIDRISE TYPE ZONE TO A
TOWER TYPE ZONE AT 240 FEET OF
HEIGHT, SIMILAR TO OTHER TOWERS
THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN BUILT IN
THE U DISTRICT. THE NEXT REZONE
AREA IS SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE,
BUT IT IS IN THE MADISON/MILLER
NEIGHBORHOOD. IT ALSO INCLUDES
THE MEREDITH MATTHEWS EAST
MADISON YMCA SITE, SO A SIMILAR
STORY HERE, BUT THE REZONE WOULD
BE FROM A LOWRISE TO ZONE TO
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE
WITH A 75 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT,
THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO ZONING
IN THE VICINITY AND IT WOULD
ALLOW THAT YMCA TO DEVELOP WITH
A MIXED-USE BUILDING, SHOULD
THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO. THE NEXT
REZONE PROPOSAL IS IN THE
BELLTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND
THROUGH DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD
PLANNING, IT CAME TO OUR
ATTENTION THAT THIS IS A GREAT
PLACE FOR ADDING MORE HOUSING .
THE CITY AND ITS PARTNERS ARE
MAKING A LOT OF INVESTMENTS IN
PUBLIC SPACES IN THIS AREA, AND
THE ZONING HAS NOT CHANGED IN
BELLTOWN FOR A VERY LONG TIME,
SO IT IS MUCH LOWER THAN OTHER
PARTS OF DOWNTOWN. THIS PROPOSAL
WOULD BE A LIMITED TIME
OPPORTUNITY UNTIL WE CAN MAKE
PERMANENT ZONING CHANGES IN
GREATER DOWNTOWN. IT WOULD ALLOW
AN ADDITIONAL 50 FEET OF HEIGHT
IN 95 FOOT ZONES AND AN
ADDITIONAL 100 FEET OF HEIGHT IN
100 85 FEET ZONES TO ENCOURAGE
INFILL HOUSING SITES THAT COULD
BE READY TO BUILD. SO, THERE ARE
SOME VACANT PROPERTIES THAT ARE
READY TO GO THERE THAT COULD BE
HELPED BY THIS. THE NEXT ITEM IS
REMOVING BARRIERS TO MODULAR AND
MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION. THIS
IMPLEMENTS STATE LEGISLATION,
AND SO, IF A PROJECT IS ONE OF
THOSE BULLETED ITEMS, INCLUDING
BUILDS OF MASS TIMBER, I WILL
JUST FOCUS ON THAT ONE, THERE
WOULD BE A WAIVER OF UPPER-LEVEL
, SOME MODULATION, AND
UPPER-LEVEL [ INAUDIBLE ]. WHEN
YOU BUILD WITH MASS TIMBER, IT
IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. SO, THIS
WOULD ALLOW FOR MASS TIMBER TO
KIND OF BUILD IN A RECTANGULAR
FORM AND SUPPORT THAT
CONSTRUCTION METHOD. THE NEXT
ITEM FOCUSES IN LAKE CITY, AND
THIS WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE THAT
ON A VERY LARGE SITE LIKE THE
FORMER FRED MEYER SITE, IF THE
NEW BUILDING INCLUDES ANY
COMBINATION OF GROCERY STORES,
PHARMACY, AND OTHER SERVICES, ET
CETERA, IT COULD HAVE A HEIGHT
LIMIT INCREASE OF 55 FEET TO 85
EIGHT, AND INCLUDING AT LEAST
200 UNITS , THAT WOULD ALSO BE A
PREREQUISITE FOR THAT INCENTIVE.
IT IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT SITE
OR SIMILAR SITES ARE GOING TO BE
DEVELOPED IN LAKE CITY,
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE
COULD HAVE A NEW COMMERCIAL
STORE IN IT? JUST A FEW IMAGES
TO CLOSE US OUT HERE. OB CD IS
VERY EXCITED ABOUT MASS TIMBER
CONSTRUCTION AND SOME OF THE
CHANGES THE PACKAGE WOULD
SUPPORT . THIS TYPE OF BUILDING,
THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A SITE
THAT IS IN EARLY PERMITTING IN
SEATTLE. IT HAS 12 STORIES OF
MASS TIMBER OVER A CONCRETE AND
STEEL BASE. OTHER CHANGES TO THE
CONSTRUCTION CODES ARE
FACILITATING THIS TYPE OF
BUILDING, AND WE ARE EXCITED
ABOUT THE FUTURE, THAT WE COULD
SEE MORE KIND OF INTERMEDIATE
SCALE TOWERS THAT ARE VERY
LIVABLE WITH BIG WINDOWS AND
PERSONAL HOUSING. SO, THE
CHANGES YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU
ENCOURAGE MORE MASS TIMBER TYPE
CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE. THIS
IS AN IMAGE IN BELLTOWN WHERE
THE ZONING TODAY THIS WOULD
ALLOW A TOWER TYPE SCALE ON MORE
SITES.
JUST WANT TO NOTE THIS
PROPOSAL DOES NOT INCLUDE THE
BONUS ON LANDMARK SITES.
SO LANDMARK SITES WOULD
CONTINUE TO BE PROTECTED.
IN THE LAST IMAGE, THIS IS
AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
THIS IS THE BASE OF STONE
WAY AND THE BUILDING THAT IS
NOTED
HERE IS A PROPOSED
INFILL HOUSING AND HOTEL THAT
WOULD BE
ADDED BASICALLY TO THE
CAMPUS- LIKE SETTING NEAR
THE BROOKS AND EVO HEADQUARTERS.
HOUSING IS NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED
IN THAT ZONE.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW
HOUSING TO BE BUILT THERE.
I'LL JUST FINISH OUT BY
SAYING WE THINK THIS IS KIND OF
A
COMMON SENSE PACKAGE OF
FOCUS CHANGED THAT CAN SUPPORT
HOUSING.
HOUSING,
WE'D
LIKE TO LOOK AT HOUSING
OPPORTUNITY PACKAGES AGAIN IN
THE FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
TIME.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS NOW OR OFFLINE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I HAD IT AND YOU KNOW WAS REALLY
INTERESTED. FOR THE PUBLIC,
COULD YOU
TALK ABOUT AND WALK US THROUGH
WHY THOSE PROPERTIES WERE
SELECTED, LIKE HOW IT WAS
DETERMINED
THOSE WERE THE PROPERTIES BEING
SELECTED TO TO BE CHANGING WITH
ZONING?
>> YEAH.
THANK YOU.
BASICALLY THESE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT OPCD
BECAME AWARE OF BY PEOPLE OUT IN
THE PUBLIC BRINGING THEM, YOU
KNOW, TWO US.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE NAME
IS TELLING HERE.
WE BELIEVE THESE
ARE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, YOU
KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS OR
BUILDERS
OR COMMUNITY PARTNERS CAME
FORWARD AND -- IF THE CITY MADE
SOME
CHANGES IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR
TERM.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
THAT WAS
IT.
>> THANK YOU.
MOVING ONTO -- I LOST MY SCREEN
HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER FOSTER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
I WANTED TO TURN QUICKLY TO
THE LAKE CITY GROCERY STORE
INCENTIVIZE
INCENTIVIZIZATION.
THERE WAS ANOTHER GROCERY STORE
THAT COULD HAVE SITED IN THE
COMMUNITY.
THIS INSENT VIIZATION
THAT'S COVERED HERE ALLOWED
AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL BONUSES
IF THERE'S A GROCERY STORE
THAT ALSO PROVIDES HOUSING.
BUT IT DOES NOT ADDRESS
THE RECENT SORT OF DECISION
THAT CAME THROUGH, IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
IT'S UNRELATED TO THAT ISSUE.
>> THE STEEP DROPOFFS IN
PERMITS.
WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND
UNEMPLOYED ELECTRICIANS READY
TO WORK.
WE KNOW WE'RE IN A
HOUSING SHORTAGE WITH A REAL
NEED
FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
OPTIONS
ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY SO
THE FOLKS WHO BUILD THIS CITY
AND
MAKE IT RUN COULD AFFORD
TO LIVE
HERE. I WAS VERY EXCITED TO HAVE
THIS BILL COME BEFORE US, THESE
ZONES FOR ENVIRONMENTALLY
FRIENDLY ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE
NEED TO KICK START JECTS
WE KNOW ARE READY TO GET GOING.
MY FIRST QUESTIONS IS RELATED TO
MODULAR CONSTRUCTION.
THIS CURRENTLY SEEMS TO
BE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT COULD
BE
INTERPRETED PRETTY BROADLY.
IT SAYS STANDARDIZED
COMPONENTS ARE SSEMBLED AT
ANOTHER
LOCATION.
WHAT GUARDRAILS ARE IN PLACE
TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT APPLIED
TO
PRETTY MUCH EVERY PROJECT IN THE
CITY AND WE'RE MEETING
OUR POLICY GOALS HERE?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RINCK, FOR THE QUESTION.
WE'RE OPEN TO CONTINUING TO
IMPROVE THIS LEGISLATION
AND ADDING WHATEVER UARDRAILS
ARE
NECESSARY.
ONE THING THAT'S HELPFUL HERE
IS THE STATE OF WASHINGTON HAS
A PROGRAM FOR MODULAR
CONSTRUCTION
WHERE PROPOSED MODULAR
BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED
BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND
INDUSTRIES, KIND OF
INSPECTED OFF SITE.
ANYTHING THAT'S MODULAR HAS TO
GO THROUGH THAT.
WE THINK THAT WOULD HELP
PROTECT AGAINST UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES, WHERE WE WOULD SAY
ONLY BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING
THROUGH THE STATE'S MODULAR
PROGRAM
WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.
THAT COULD BE SOMETHING DONE
BY INTERPRETATION OR IF IT
NEEDS TO BE AMENDED INTO THIS
PROPOSAL, WE WELCOME THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ON THE PASSIVE HOUSE DEFINITION,
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
WE'RE CURRENTLY LINKING OUR
CODE TO
A DEFINITION PROVIDED BY THE
PASSIVE HOUSE INSTITUTE.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT CURRENT
DEFINITION?
HAVE WE SEEN PASSIVE
HOUSE DEFINITIONS CHANGE OVER
THE
YEARS?
I'M THINKING ABOUT WHETHER
THERE'S POTENTIAL BENEFIT
FOR DEVELOPING OUR OWN
DEFINITION
OR TYING IT TO THIS ONE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN SOME OF
THE RATIONALE
THERE.
>> I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
THE PASSIVE HOUSE TOPIC.
WE TOOK THE
LANGUAGE MORE OR LESS FROM THIS
CITY BILL
FROM WHAT WAS IN THE STATE HB
1183.
I SAW THE QUESTION FROM
COUNCIL STAFF SUGGESTING WE
MIGHT NEED
TO BE CLEARER ABOUT WHAT COUNTS
AS A PASSIVE HOUSE
CERTIFICATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'D WELCOME
A CLARIFYING AMENDMENT THERE.
SO THAT'S MY SHORT ANSWER.
WE BORROWED THE STATE'S
DEFINITION, AND THERE'S
PROBABLY
ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
>> THAT'S GREAT TO UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW PHIA HAS -- ARE WE
THINKING ABOUT LINKING
THIS BONUS TO THE LOWEST LEVEL
OF
CERTIFICATION OR ARE
THERE DIFFERENCES BASED
ON CERTIFICATION WE WANT TO
CONSIDER?
>> I THINK WE ERRED ON THE
SIDE OF IF IT'S CERTIFIED,
IT WOULD BE FOR THIS BONUS.
THE PASSIVE HOUSE STANDARD IS
A VERY HIGH
ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE
STANDARD.
SO WE FELT AS LONG AS IT WAS ONE
OF THE TIERS OF
CERTIFICATION, THAT WOULD BE
SUFFICIENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION.
CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION TO
FIND WAYS
TO POTENTIALLY CLARIFY TO MAKE
SURESURE
BRINGING INTO
FRUITION SOME OF THE BROADER
POLICY
GOALS I THINK WE ALL SHARE WHEN
WE
COME TO THIS LEGISLATION.
I HOPE WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD
QUICKLY, GET THESE
EXCITING PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.
ON A FINAL NOTE, I'D LIKE
TO REQUEST MY NAME TO BE ADDED
AS
A BILL COSPONSOR.
>> COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER --
>> I HAD ONE MORE.
REALLY QUICK, I KNOW THIS
LEGISLATION,
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION IT WAS
IN
BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE PREVIOUS
MAYOR.
THEN WERE THERE CHANGES
MADE BY THIS ADMINISTRATION TO
THIS
LEGISLATION BEFORE IT WAS
TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL?
>> THERE WEREN'T
MAJOR SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
WE DEFINITELY DISCUSSED IT WITH
NEW
LEADERSHIP.
>>
UNDERSTOOD.
>>
YEAH. THEY WANTED TO MOVE IT
FORWARD.
>> AWESOME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND COLLEAGUES.
AND, YEAH, THAT WAS ONE POINT
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT,
WAS THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE
WORKS
FOR A LONG TIME.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU
PUBLISHED TWO
SEPA DETERMINATIONS AND HAVE
ENGAGED WITH THE PUBLIC, SOUGHT
FEEDBACK.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS ADMINISTRATION
MOVING IT
FORWARD, HAPPY TO SPONSOR,
HAPPY TO HAVE COLLEAGUES
COSPONSOR.
BUT I DO JUST WANT TO NOTE
FOR THE RECORD THIS HAS BEEN IN
THE WORKS FOR A WHILE.
I APPRECIATE OPCD'S LEADERSHIP
IN BRINGING THIS PACKAGE
FORWARD.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU
WANT TO ROUND US OUT WITH,
WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ANY FINAL
THOUGHTS.
OTHERWISE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU.
AND OPCD LOOKS FORWARD
TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH
YOU COUNCILMEMBERS TO REFINE AND
IMPROVE AS NEEDED.
THANK
YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER, DID
YOU STILL -- OKAY.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE REACHED
THE END OF TODAY'S AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS
TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
BEFORE
WE ADJOURN?
OKAY.
HEARING NO FURTHER BUSINESS
COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, WE
ARE