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from one of the vice

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presidents of U of W.

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this information.

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wrestling with it

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that they could

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not let another,

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they could not

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stay silent.

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It just hit me heavy.

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but it felt so surreal.

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- Well, welcome again

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to Chino e Chicano.

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I'm Enrique Cerna.

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Stunning allegations

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emerging from a

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New York Times

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investigation

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are raising

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serious questions

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about the legacy

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of United Farm

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Workers co-founder

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Cesar Chavez.

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According to the report,

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Chavez is accused

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of grooming

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and sexually

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abusing young women

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within the union

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movement.

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Following

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its publication,

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fellow UFW

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co-founder

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Dolores Huerta,

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now 95,

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says she also

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experienced sexual abuse

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by Chavez

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and became pregnant,

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later

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giving birth

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to two children.

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She says she kept

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the secret

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for decades

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to protect the farm

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worker movement.

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- All of the,

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farm workers on strike

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here in the Delano.

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- The revelations are now

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casting a shadow over

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Chavez's civil

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rights legacy

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and have shocked

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supporters,

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including Washington

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State Senator

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Rebecca Saldaña,

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who represents

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the 37th district.

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I spoke with her

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about the allegations

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and what they could mean

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for the future

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of the farm

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worker movement.

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Rebecca Saldaña,

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where were you

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when you heard the news?

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heard the news,

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two nights before

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I was getting ready

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for bed,

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and I saw a text message

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from one of the Vice

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Presidents of U of W,

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that they urgently

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were trying

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to get  a hold of me,

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and,

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so I called

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her back, and,

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she told me, that

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they have

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had very credible,

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information

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while it was not direct,

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firsthand information

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to them.

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this information.

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They've been

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wrestling with it

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that they could not

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let another,

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they could not

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stay silent.

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they had to

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speak out and,

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just hit me heavy.

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but it felt so surreal.

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to understand

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why they decided

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to reach out to you.

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I mean, I have been

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working with them on.

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a collective bargaining.

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we had brought together

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and Familias Unidas por la Justicia

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back in December,

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November,

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December to say,

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is this the year

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that we should,

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do a law,

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a policy to be able to,

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try to get collective

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bargaining,

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a framework

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for farmworkers

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in Washington state.

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working with them

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in January,

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I they kind of did

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radio silence.

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I didn't hear from them.

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finally reached out

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and got to talk with,

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United Farmworker

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President Teresa Romero.

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they were holding

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something very heavy.

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they have been

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wrestling.

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They had something that,

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they couldn't

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tell me

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at the moment,

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but, it's it was rocking

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their whole,

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their, their whole,

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like, organization and,

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and so

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and they told me

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as soon as we can

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tell you, we are,

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we'll tell you so.

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been wrestling

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with that internally

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to try to figure out

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what was

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their responsibility.

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How should they respond?

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I didn't know

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what it was.

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what it was,

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it was so heavy on them.

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Right? Yeah.

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the morning of

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when we saw the news,

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I was in a meeting and,

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getting my phone

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blown up

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with text messages and,

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trying to be present

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to the meeting

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I was in, but it's,

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you know, but it was.

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- Your minds elsewhere.

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- My mind was elsewhere.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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How about you?

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when did you?

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- Actually took

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me back to.

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I interviewed

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Cesar Chavez.

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I think it was 1986

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when I was a kid

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on television, and I.

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I was just thinking

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about his demeanor

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in that very, very,

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polite, kind,

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very human

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man as far

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as how he, he,

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interacted and,

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so you, you

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it was hard

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not to like him

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very friendly and,

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good speaker

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with all his points.

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Dolores Huerta.

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she's he's a tough one

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and not a

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tough interview,

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but but again, he she's

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she's strong.

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when I read that

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she had

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held a secret

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for 60 years,

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that really kind of

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hit me.

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a long time to hold in

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something like that.

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people,

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should could question

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why she held on to

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why she didn't

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speak out.

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I mean you’d probably have to 

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look at the time

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generational time

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and cultural

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time as well

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of your life.

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But you cannot say that

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she was not

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completely committed

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to the farmworker

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movement.

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that obviously

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had a lot to play with,

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but it was still

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extremely shocking

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to hear from that.

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okay, now what?

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bigger issues here,

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you know,

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that you need

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to look at.

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not only just about

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the farmworker

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organization,

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but about

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social, cultural,

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cultural issues

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of how

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women are being treated.

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Still being or

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were treated

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then continue

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to be treated now,

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how sexual abuse abuse

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period is, is still

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alive and well,

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unfortunately.

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It was so shocking.

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I mean, I think that was

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the part

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that was

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so heartbreaking

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was to read

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Delores's interview.

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my feminist icon,

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the person that I have

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admire so much,

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and

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that even she, you know,

317
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she is someone

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that I quote

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all the time

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as saying that,

321
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you know, every like,

322
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you know,

323
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every farm

324
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worker, everyone

325
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you know, has power

326
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in their body and that,

327
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we are all equal.

328
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And it's

329
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when we come together

330
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collectively

331
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that we can make

332
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all of this happen,

333
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this change, you know,

334
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and to know that

335
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even she felt like

336
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she had a

337
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hold on to that,

338
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to be able

339
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to make space

340
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for people

341
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like me to live

342
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more free,

343
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was just devastating

344
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to have to to see that.

345
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And it made me

346
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think, like,

347
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you know,

348
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I was a young Chicana.

349
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I mean,

350
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I got involved way

351
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after he was,

352
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he passed, you know,

353
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so he was an idea.

354
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He was a concept.

355
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But, you know,

356
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he was definitely

357
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someone that.

358
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And when I read

359
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the autobiography,

360
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La Causa,

361
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those are a

362
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direct interviews of,

363
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Cesar and Dolores

364
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and Jacques Levy.

365
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You know, it just

366
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set me

367
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on my on my path.

368
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Because it

369
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I also am a

370
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religious person.

371
00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:02,582
And so it helped me

372
00:08:02,582 --> 00:08:03,950
connect my faith

373
00:08:03,950 --> 00:08:07,186
with my deep, fury

374
00:08:07,186 --> 00:08:08,688
of the injustices

375
00:08:08,688 --> 00:08:10,890
that I see around me.

376
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And,

377
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and I did have

378
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Dolores

379
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as a strong feminist,

380
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you know,

381
00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:18,531
to look up to that,

382
00:08:18,531 --> 00:08:18,798
you know,

383
00:08:18,798 --> 00:08:19,832
we can do things

384
00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:22,235
differently.

385
00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:23,169
But, you know, as

386
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a young organizer,

387
00:08:24,470 --> 00:08:25,505
I definitely saw

388
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the machismo still

389
00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:27,940
and was very frustrated

390
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by it.

391
00:08:28,674 --> 00:08:29,809
- And the machismo

392
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in our culture is

393
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it's there

394
00:08:32,712 --> 00:08:33,813
has been there

395
00:08:33,813 --> 00:08:35,081
and still there.

396
00:08:35,081 --> 00:08:36,415
- And it's it's in

397
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our it's

398
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in the US society.

399
00:08:38,084 --> 00:08:38,618
- Oh yes.

400
00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:39,919
- I mean yes...

401
00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:41,153
- Male chauvinism.

402
00:08:41,153 --> 00:08:42,188
Come on, let's say it.

403
00:08:42,188 --> 00:08:42,688
- But it was

404
00:08:42,688 --> 00:08:43,489
very frustrating,

405
00:08:43,489 --> 00:08:46,058
right, to see that,

406
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there is institutional

407
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barriers and,

408
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you know, see so many

409
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really strong women

410
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hold their tongue

411
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and hold themselves,

412
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for the greater cause.

413
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And, and that's

414
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part of why,

415
00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:00,840
like one of the reasons

416
00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,741
why I couldn't

417
00:09:01,741 --> 00:09:02,742
stay working there.

418
00:09:03,776 --> 00:09:04,610
You know, I still

419
00:09:04,610 --> 00:09:05,244
believed in

420
00:09:05,244 --> 00:09:05,711
the movement.

421
00:09:05,711 --> 00:09:05,945
I still

422
00:09:05,945 --> 00:09:06,746
believe with

423
00:09:06,746 --> 00:09:07,446
the farmworkers

424
00:09:07,446 --> 00:09:07,980
that continue

425
00:09:07,980 --> 00:09:09,715
to have my heart there.

426
00:09:09,715 --> 00:09:12,718
But, that it was

427
00:09:12,852 --> 00:09:15,721
I knew that I would,

428
00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:16,522
I could not

429
00:09:16,522 --> 00:09:18,424
tolerate that.

430
00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:21,294
And so,

431
00:09:21,294 --> 00:09:22,528
yeah.

432
00:09:22,528 --> 00:09:23,062
Yeah,

433
00:09:23,062 --> 00:09:23,696
- I would think

434
00:09:23,696 --> 00:09:24,163
I would think

435
00:09:24,163 --> 00:09:26,799
most women wouldn't

436
00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:27,934
be, wouldn't

437
00:09:27,934 --> 00:09:29,902
tolerate it.

438
00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:31,671
But you know, that

439
00:09:31,671 --> 00:09:32,672
that is.

440
00:09:32,672 --> 00:09:33,940
- But we all we all...

441
00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:34,774
violence...

442
00:09:34,774 --> 00:09:35,007
I mean,

443
00:09:35,007 --> 00:09:35,741
I think that's the part

444
00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:36,442
that the violence

445
00:09:36,442 --> 00:09:37,209
is there.

446
00:09:37,209 --> 00:09:37,510
You know,

447
00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:38,911
when I read that,

448
00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:40,413
I finally brought myself

449
00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:40,680
to read

450
00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:41,547
the full interview

451
00:09:41,547 --> 00:09:42,381
of New York Times

452
00:09:42,381 --> 00:09:43,716
just last night.

453
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Because,

454
00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:45,484
you know,

455
00:09:45,484 --> 00:09:46,185
when there's

456
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police violence

457
00:09:47,353 --> 00:09:48,621
or these horrible,

458
00:09:48,621 --> 00:09:50,690
horrendous stories,

459
00:09:50,690 --> 00:09:51,924
you know, I,

460
00:09:51,924 --> 00:09:53,225
I'm very sensitive.

461
00:09:53,225 --> 00:09:56,228
And so I usually like,

462
00:09:57,129 --> 00:09:58,030
it takes me a while

463
00:09:58,030 --> 00:09:58,664
to be able

464
00:09:58,664 --> 00:09:59,665
to bring myself

465
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to actually read it.

466
00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,702
And, you know,

467
00:10:02,702 --> 00:10:03,269
when I read it,

468
00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:04,070
right, it was,

469
00:10:05,204 --> 00:10:05,771
you know, really

470
00:10:05,771 --> 00:10:08,341
clear that,

471
00:10:08,341 --> 00:10:08,941
you know,

472
00:10:08,941 --> 00:10:09,375
you know,

473
00:10:09,375 --> 00:10:12,578
we need to pause, that

474
00:10:13,412 --> 00:10:16,115
this March 31st

475
00:10:16,115 --> 00:10:16,782
should be centered

476
00:10:16,782 --> 00:10:18,117
on survivors,

477
00:10:18,117 --> 00:10:19,018
on all of us

478
00:10:19,018 --> 00:10:19,952
creating space

479
00:10:19,952 --> 00:10:22,121
a bear witness.

480
00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:22,388
To the

481
00:10:22,388 --> 00:10:23,522
continual violence

482
00:10:23,522 --> 00:10:26,592
that continues, to to be

483
00:10:26,592 --> 00:10:29,595
perpetrated, by,

484
00:10:30,429 --> 00:10:31,230
male bodies

485
00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:32,732
on female bodies

486
00:10:32,732 --> 00:10:33,866
and not only

487
00:10:33,866 --> 00:10:35,034
but that that is,

488
00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:37,536
you know,

489
00:10:37,536 --> 00:10:38,804
is something that really

490
00:10:38,804 --> 00:10:40,172
continues to,

491
00:10:40,172 --> 00:10:42,842
to be a source of,

492
00:10:42,842 --> 00:10:44,443
harm and violence,

493
00:10:44,443 --> 00:10:46,712
for all of us.

494
00:10:46,712 --> 00:10:47,813
And until we can face

495
00:10:47,813 --> 00:10:48,914
that, you know,

496
00:10:48,914 --> 00:10:49,649
we're not

497
00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:50,750
going to be able

498
00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:53,486
to get free.

499
00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,053
So.

500
00:10:54,053 --> 00:10:55,988
And I know that,

501
00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:56,222
you know,

502
00:10:56,222 --> 00:10:57,490
I put out a statement

503
00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:58,524
and

504
00:10:58,524 --> 00:10:59,759
the Democratic Caucus

505
00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:00,226
is working

506
00:11:00,226 --> 00:11:02,428
on a statement as well,

507
00:11:02,428 --> 00:11:03,696
to, you know,

508
00:11:03,696 --> 00:11:05,731
put a pause,

509
00:11:05,731 --> 00:11:07,199
on any activities

510
00:11:07,199 --> 00:11:09,568
this year,

511
00:11:09,568 --> 00:11:11,137
center the voices,

512
00:11:11,137 --> 00:11:12,571
listen to them.

513
00:11:12,571 --> 00:11:13,939
Really,

514
00:11:13,939 --> 00:11:14,840
and then figure out

515
00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,841
how we go forward,

516
00:11:15,841 --> 00:11:18,210
you know, whether we do,

517
00:11:18,210 --> 00:11:18,511
you know,

518
00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:19,211
and I say, I know

519
00:11:19,211 --> 00:11:19,812
that will be on

520
00:11:19,812 --> 00:11:20,713
the minds of the

521
00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:21,681
the legislators

522
00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:22,148
that are going to be

523
00:11:22,148 --> 00:11:23,249
coming back to session

524
00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:24,717
next year about,

525
00:11:24,717 --> 00:11:25,017
you know,

526
00:11:25,017 --> 00:11:25,651
whether we need to

527
00:11:25,651 --> 00:11:26,652
take action or not.

528
00:11:28,954 --> 00:11:29,221
Yeah.

529
00:11:29,221 --> 00:11:29,855
- Well, then

530
00:11:29,855 --> 00:11:31,023
the issue here, too, is,

531
00:11:31,023 --> 00:11:31,590
is that,

532
00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:32,692
you know, obviously

533
00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:33,693
the sexual

534
00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,695
abuse, harassment,

535
00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:36,429
manipulation,

536
00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:37,596
all of these things.

537
00:11:37,596 --> 00:11:38,798
But abuse also comes in

538
00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:40,232
many other forms.

539
00:11:40,232 --> 00:11:41,500
And it can be how

540
00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:43,869
someone treats someone

541
00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:44,303
to how

542
00:11:44,303 --> 00:11:47,306
they are spoken to.

543
00:11:47,606 --> 00:11:48,741
And in a male

544
00:11:48,741 --> 00:11:50,476
dominated culture,

545
00:11:50,476 --> 00:11:52,244
I mean, let's face it,

546
00:11:52,244 --> 00:11:54,980
men can be real jerks

547
00:11:54,980 --> 00:11:56,048
and our

548
00:11:56,048 --> 00:11:57,383
can be mean spirited

549
00:11:57,383 --> 00:12:00,386
and that that's abuse,

550
00:12:00,653 --> 00:12:01,253
you know?

551
00:12:01,253 --> 00:12:02,088
And I think

552
00:12:02,088 --> 00:12:03,456
I have to take

553
00:12:03,456 --> 00:12:04,957
a real hard look.

554
00:12:04,957 --> 00:12:05,524
I mean, men

555
00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:06,358
need to take a hard

556
00:12:06,358 --> 00:12:07,226
look at ourselves

557
00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:08,394
about how we do that.

558
00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:09,962
And also,

559
00:12:09,962 --> 00:12:12,031
as a father of a son,

560
00:12:12,031 --> 00:12:13,666
you know,

561
00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:15,301
talk about that as well.

562
00:12:15,301 --> 00:12:15,668
It's time

563
00:12:15,668 --> 00:12:16,268
that we take a hard

564
00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:17,670
look at those things.

565
00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:18,270
- Yeah, yeah.

566
00:12:18,270 --> 00:12:19,305
And I know it's really

567
00:12:19,305 --> 00:12:19,805
hard, right?

568
00:12:19,805 --> 00:12:20,740
It's really hard

569
00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:22,708
for us to have this,

570
00:12:22,708 --> 00:12:23,509
you know, as Chicanos

571
00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:25,111
and then as a Latinos

572
00:12:25,111 --> 00:12:25,511
for us

573
00:12:25,511 --> 00:12:25,811
to have

574
00:12:25,811 --> 00:12:26,912
this conversation

575
00:12:26,912 --> 00:12:27,613
with ourselves

576
00:12:27,613 --> 00:12:28,981
in our own community.

577
00:12:28,981 --> 00:12:29,315
You know,

578
00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:30,082
when the

579
00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:30,950
dominant culture

580
00:12:30,950 --> 00:12:31,083
and the

581
00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:31,851
dominant community

582
00:12:31,851 --> 00:12:33,452
right now, you know,

583
00:12:33,452 --> 00:12:35,287
Epstein files

584
00:12:35,287 --> 00:12:36,288
white elitists

585
00:12:36,288 --> 00:12:38,023
and the upper echelons,

586
00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:38,791
you know,

587
00:12:38,791 --> 00:12:39,658
not having

588
00:12:39,658 --> 00:12:40,960
any accountability

589
00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,527
and actually

590
00:12:41,527 --> 00:12:42,261
being continued

591
00:12:42,261 --> 00:12:43,195
to be celebrated

592
00:12:43,195 --> 00:12:45,364
and, advanced. Right?

593
00:12:46,699 --> 00:12:47,133
You know, it

594
00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:48,601
is it is

595
00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,202
a challenge, right?

596
00:12:50,202 --> 00:12:53,205
For all of us to,

597
00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:54,807
really take a moment

598
00:12:54,807 --> 00:12:56,442
to, like,

599
00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:58,644
be reflective,

600
00:12:58,644 --> 00:12:59,912
and, and not

601
00:12:59,912 --> 00:13:00,613
blame and shame

602
00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:01,680
ourselves, right?

603
00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:01,981
I mean,

604
00:13:01,981 --> 00:13:02,581
I think what

605
00:13:02,581 --> 00:13:04,150
I don't want,

606
00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:05,251
for men or women

607
00:13:05,251 --> 00:13:07,853
is to be saying, like,

608
00:13:07,853 --> 00:13:08,387
because I know

609
00:13:08,387 --> 00:13:09,255
I was starting to do

610
00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:09,522
it was like,

611
00:13:09,522 --> 00:13:10,623
did I miss something?

612
00:13:10,623 --> 00:13:11,290
Should I have

613
00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:11,924
said something

614
00:13:11,924 --> 00:13:13,726
more as someone that,

615
00:13:13,726 --> 00:13:15,728
you know,

616
00:13:15,728 --> 00:13:16,796
has been part

617
00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:17,830
of the movement,

618
00:13:17,830 --> 00:13:18,297
you know,

619
00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:20,132
should I have known

620
00:13:20,132 --> 00:13:23,102
or been more outspoken?

621
00:13:23,569 --> 00:13:24,904
You know,

622
00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:25,604
and so I know

623
00:13:25,604 --> 00:13:26,071
a lot of us

624
00:13:26,071 --> 00:13:28,140
are doing that.

625
00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:29,875
But, you know,

626
00:13:29,875 --> 00:13:30,242
we didn't

627
00:13:30,242 --> 00:13:31,577
cause this, you know,

628
00:13:31,577 --> 00:13:32,778
- Right.

629
00:13:32,778 --> 00:13:33,612
- And we didn't.

630
00:13:33,612 --> 00:13:36,615
We can't cure it alone.

631
00:13:37,049 --> 00:13:38,050
We can't control

632
00:13:38,050 --> 00:13:39,051
outside factors,

633
00:13:39,051 --> 00:13:40,853
but we can control

634
00:13:40,853 --> 00:13:42,288
how our own selves.

635
00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:43,823
And so I think the piece

636
00:13:43,823 --> 00:13:44,423
that I take

637
00:13:44,423 --> 00:13:45,391
is actually

638
00:13:45,391 --> 00:13:46,725
Dolores is message

639
00:13:46,725 --> 00:13:47,459
that our power

640
00:13:47,459 --> 00:13:48,694
is in our body,

641
00:13:48,694 --> 00:13:50,462
that this happened.

642
00:13:50,462 --> 00:13:51,497
We need to look at it

643
00:13:51,497 --> 00:13:52,531
with eyes wide open.

644
00:13:53,532 --> 00:13:54,266
But we also we

645
00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:55,501
really need to feel

646
00:13:55,501 --> 00:13:55,968
what we're

647
00:13:55,968 --> 00:13:56,735
feeling in our body.

648
00:13:56,735 --> 00:13:57,970
And how can we

649
00:13:57,970 --> 00:13:59,305
actually recognize

650
00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:00,973
that each of us

651
00:14:00,973 --> 00:14:03,042
deserve to

652
00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:04,176
to live

653
00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:06,579
without violence,

654
00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:07,613
and that,

655
00:14:07,613 --> 00:14:08,447
our bodies are

656
00:14:08,447 --> 00:14:10,482
sacred containers.

657
00:14:10,482 --> 00:14:11,717
And you know

658
00:14:11,717 --> 00:14:12,451
how do we talk

659
00:14:12,451 --> 00:14:13,452
about consent?

660
00:14:13,452 --> 00:14:15,788
How do we talk about,

661
00:14:15,788 --> 00:14:17,423
consent when,

662
00:14:17,423 --> 00:14:18,357
you know,

663
00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:19,892
so many of us had things

664
00:14:19,892 --> 00:14:21,193
done to us

665
00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:21,894
when we were

666
00:14:21,894 --> 00:14:23,495
too young to

667
00:14:23,495 --> 00:14:24,697
to have a voice

668
00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:25,264
and to be able to

669
00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:25,898
say, no,

670
00:14:25,898 --> 00:14:28,367
there's a lot of hope.

671
00:14:28,367 --> 00:14:29,568
And I think one thing

672
00:14:29,568 --> 00:14:31,470
that this really I think

673
00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:32,671
hopefully finally

674
00:14:32,671 --> 00:14:33,572
gets us all

675
00:14:33,572 --> 00:14:36,542
to realize is that,

676
00:14:37,243 --> 00:14:39,245
putting hero worship

677
00:14:39,245 --> 00:14:40,145
and thinking that

678
00:14:40,145 --> 00:14:41,847
there's saviors,

679
00:14:41,847 --> 00:14:43,983
there's not,

680
00:14:43,983 --> 00:14:45,117
that this

681
00:14:45,117 --> 00:14:46,051
farmworker movement

682
00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:47,720
has always been more

683
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,555
than one individual

684
00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,090
or two individuals,

685
00:14:51,090 --> 00:14:52,391
that it is

686
00:14:52,391 --> 00:14:53,058
the actual

687
00:14:53,058 --> 00:14:54,293
the cause

688
00:14:54,293 --> 00:14:57,296
for farmworkers to be

689
00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:58,797
given dignity

690
00:14:58,797 --> 00:15:00,900
and respect and,

691
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,201
and have,

692
00:15:02,201 --> 00:15:02,601
the able

693
00:15:02,601 --> 00:15:03,602
to work the fields

694
00:15:03,602 --> 00:15:04,169
and not have

695
00:15:04,169 --> 00:15:05,471
their bodies

696
00:15:05,471 --> 00:15:06,272
destroyed in

697
00:15:06,272 --> 00:15:07,840
the process. Right.

698
00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:08,641
- So what does it mean

699
00:15:08,641 --> 00:15:09,375
for the movement?

700
00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:09,742
Now?

701
00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:10,209
I mean,

702
00:15:10,209 --> 00:15:11,410
obviously there's

703
00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:12,511
the setback.

704
00:15:12,511 --> 00:15:14,046
It's a time to,

705
00:15:14,046 --> 00:15:15,114
you know,

706
00:15:15,114 --> 00:15:15,981
deal with the,

707
00:15:15,981 --> 00:15:18,450
I guess, sense of grief,

708
00:15:18,450 --> 00:15:19,351
you know, and loss.

709
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,521
Because of

710
00:15:22,521 --> 00:15:23,656
just the

711
00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:24,256
information

712
00:15:24,256 --> 00:15:25,491
was so stunning.

713
00:15:25,491 --> 00:15:25,958
And the news

714
00:15:25,958 --> 00:15:27,126
is so stunning.

715
00:15:27,126 --> 00:15:28,427
But the fact is, is that

716
00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:28,928
there's still

717
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:29,762
many issues

718
00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:30,429
that farmworkers

719
00:15:30,429 --> 00:15:32,097
facing today

720
00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:33,666
and especially today

721
00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:34,433
in a time of

722
00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:35,701
ICE crackdowns

723
00:15:35,701 --> 00:15:36,969
and the way,

724
00:15:36,969 --> 00:15:37,369
the Trump

725
00:15:37,369 --> 00:15:39,438
Administration has dealt

726
00:15:39,438 --> 00:15:41,206
with immigrants.

727
00:15:41,206 --> 00:15:41,941
- Yeah.

728
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:42,441
Well, I mean,

729
00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:43,642
I think one,

730
00:15:43,642 --> 00:15:45,344
to two bright spots

731
00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:46,111
for me, right,

732
00:15:46,111 --> 00:15:48,480
is the work that,

733
00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,181
Washington State

734
00:15:49,181 --> 00:15:51,550
actually has been,

735
00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:52,251
supporting

736
00:15:52,251 --> 00:15:53,018
the leadership

737
00:15:53,018 --> 00:15:55,554
of farmworkers,

738
00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:57,723
in Central Valley,

739
00:15:57,723 --> 00:15:58,357
in partnership

740
00:15:58,357 --> 00:15:58,924
with University

741
00:15:58,924 --> 00:15:59,959
of Washington

742
00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:00,893
Ya BASTA

743
00:16:00,893 --> 00:16:03,462
which is, of a woman,

744
00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:04,730
farmworker, women

745
00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:07,132
peer led,

746
00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:07,933
organization

747
00:16:07,933 --> 00:16:09,234
that's training,

748
00:16:09,234 --> 00:16:10,135
each other

749
00:16:10,135 --> 00:16:10,769
and training

750
00:16:10,769 --> 00:16:11,637
the industry

751
00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:12,905
about identifying

752
00:16:12,905 --> 00:16:14,807
sexual harassment,

753
00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,442
and how to address

754
00:16:16,442 --> 00:16:17,676
sexual assault

755
00:16:17,676 --> 00:16:19,378
and change the culture.

756
00:16:19,378 --> 00:16:21,013
And, these last

757
00:16:21,013 --> 00:16:21,847
two budget cycles have

758
00:16:21,847 --> 00:16:22,281
been really

759
00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:22,982
hard for them.

760
00:16:23,949 --> 00:16:25,050
Their fiscal sponsors,

761
00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:26,452
me centroid of Tacoma.

762
00:16:26,452 --> 00:16:27,419
So I do think

763
00:16:27,419 --> 00:16:27,987
one of the things

764
00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:28,954
I'm going to do on my

765
00:16:28,954 --> 00:16:29,822
to do list

766
00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:31,557
is, this Saturday

767
00:16:31,557 --> 00:16:32,391
at Bernal Baca

768
00:16:32,391 --> 00:16:33,392
a celebration of life

769
00:16:33,392 --> 00:16:35,260
is reconnecting with,

770
00:16:35,260 --> 00:16:35,394
Ya BASTA

771
00:16:35,394 --> 00:16:36,762
I wanted to understand

772
00:16:36,762 --> 00:16:37,563
where they are.

773
00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:39,264
Like, what are their,

774
00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:39,732
their goals

775
00:16:39,732 --> 00:16:40,899
for expansion?

776
00:16:40,899 --> 00:16:41,700
How do we support

777
00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,901
their leadership?

778
00:16:42,901 --> 00:16:44,403
How do we,

779
00:16:44,403 --> 00:16:45,270
really grow

780
00:16:45,270 --> 00:16:46,438
their curriculum?

781
00:16:46,438 --> 00:16:46,905
I think that

782
00:16:46,905 --> 00:16:47,373
is something

783
00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:48,841
that's really important.

784
00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,242
The other is that up

785
00:16:50,242 --> 00:16:50,943
in eastern,

786
00:16:50,943 --> 00:16:52,344
up in Skagit,

787
00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:53,045
we have 

788
00:16:53,045 --> 00:16:54,880
Familias Unidas por la Justicia

789
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,981
that have

790
00:16:55,981 --> 00:16:57,716
their mystical,

791
00:16:57,716 --> 00:17:00,719
indigenous, led union,

792
00:17:00,886 --> 00:17:01,754
that has

793
00:17:01,754 --> 00:17:03,489
a union contract.

794
00:17:03,489 --> 00:17:04,623
But they also

795
00:17:04,623 --> 00:17:06,358
and have partnered with,

796
00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:06,959
been partnering

797
00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:07,493
with community

798
00:17:07,493 --> 00:17:08,060
community,

799
00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:09,028
which is a feminist

800
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,729
led with Rosalinda Guillen

801
00:17:10,729 --> 00:17:12,064
another one of our

802
00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:13,565
leaders and mentors,

803
00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:15,901
who, created

804
00:17:15,901 --> 00:17:17,002
this structure

805
00:17:17,002 --> 00:17:18,137
and to be,

806
00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:18,470
you know,

807
00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:19,138
unapologetic,

808
00:17:19,138 --> 00:17:22,007
unapologetically,

809
00:17:22,007 --> 00:17:23,776
female led and centered

810
00:17:23,776 --> 00:17:24,676
leadership

811
00:17:24,676 --> 00:17:25,411
that their

812
00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:26,078
their state

813
00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:26,812
has partnered

814
00:17:26,812 --> 00:17:28,647
with them to create,

815
00:17:28,647 --> 00:17:29,748
a hero model.

816
00:17:29,748 --> 00:17:31,050
So, where

817
00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:31,817
they're building

818
00:17:31,817 --> 00:17:32,651
a cooperative

819
00:17:32,651 --> 00:17:35,654
that is a farmworker,

820
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:36,755
are now

821
00:17:36,755 --> 00:17:37,890
owning their land

822
00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:39,491
and, and collectively

823
00:17:39,491 --> 00:17:42,728
farming, to produce,

824
00:17:43,128 --> 00:17:45,030
food and vegetables

825
00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:45,664
and shown,

826
00:17:45,664 --> 00:17:46,031
you know,

827
00:17:46,031 --> 00:17:48,200
an alternative. Right.

828
00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,034
And so

829
00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:49,435
I think there

830
00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:50,269
are highlights

831
00:17:50,269 --> 00:17:50,836
and, you know,

832
00:17:50,836 --> 00:17:52,071
I think the third is

833
00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:53,272
this was the first year

834
00:17:53,272 --> 00:17:54,306
that we introduced

835
00:17:54,306 --> 00:17:56,909
legislation for,

836
00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:57,910
and creating a statewide

837
00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:58,944
framework for collective

838
00:17:58,944 --> 00:17:59,311
bargaining

839
00:17:59,311 --> 00:18:00,279
for farmworkers,

840
00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:01,380
and so that they can

841
00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:02,347
actually have

842
00:18:02,347 --> 00:18:04,349
equal voice at tables

843
00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:04,950
with the

844
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:06,018
agricultural industry

845
00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:06,852
to say,

846
00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:07,119
you know,

847
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,220
this industry

848
00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:09,721
is also not

849
00:18:09,721 --> 00:18:10,689
not thriving.

850
00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:11,790
And this moment.

851
00:18:11,790 --> 00:18:12,558
Right,

852
00:18:12,558 --> 00:18:13,725
but how do we

853
00:18:13,725 --> 00:18:14,726
find our way forward?

854
00:18:15,661 --> 00:18:16,462
You know, in the

855
00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:17,329
face of climate,

856
00:18:17,329 --> 00:18:17,996
in the face

857
00:18:17,996 --> 00:18:18,931
of rising costs,

858
00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:21,133
in the face of tariffs,

859
00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,868
continuing to,

860
00:18:22,868 --> 00:18:24,136
say that farmworkers

861
00:18:24,136 --> 00:18:24,970
don't deserve

862
00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:25,637
to have

863
00:18:25,637 --> 00:18:26,071
the right

864
00:18:26,071 --> 00:18:28,540
to collectively bargain.

865
00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:29,308
Is is

866
00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:29,942
is not the way

867
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:30,242
we're going to

868
00:18:30,242 --> 00:18:30,642
move forward,

869
00:18:30,642 --> 00:18:31,677
because that's

870
00:18:31,677 --> 00:18:32,578
also the root

871
00:18:32,578 --> 00:18:33,512
of this violence,

872
00:18:33,512 --> 00:18:34,113
right, is

873
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,514
when workers are working

874
00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:36,315
in those conditions

875
00:18:36,315 --> 00:18:38,150
then coming home,

876
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:39,051
and they're organizing

877
00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:39,451
in these

878
00:18:39,451 --> 00:18:41,920
hostile conditions,

879
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,689
that,

880
00:18:43,689 --> 00:18:45,324
you know,

881
00:18:45,324 --> 00:18:47,926
it's not an excuse.

882
00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:48,694
But it is,

883
00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:49,161
I think,

884
00:18:49,161 --> 00:18:49,928
sometimes helpful

885
00:18:49,928 --> 00:18:50,195
for us

886
00:18:50,195 --> 00:18:51,363
to enter the understand

887
00:18:51,363 --> 00:18:52,464
context and,

888
00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:53,732
and history.

889
00:18:53,732 --> 00:18:54,600
- Since,

890
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,434
the news came out,

891
00:18:55,434 --> 00:18:55,868
have you

892
00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:56,768
talked again

893
00:18:56,768 --> 00:18:57,870
with,

894
00:18:57,870 --> 00:19:00,339
UFW officials nationally

895
00:19:00,339 --> 00:19:01,273
about how they're

896
00:19:01,273 --> 00:19:03,442
handling all this?

897
00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:04,443
- I haven't had a

898
00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:04,743
I haven't

899
00:19:04,743 --> 00:19:05,277
circled back

900
00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:07,279
with them yet.

901
00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:08,614
And since we heard it,

902
00:19:08,614 --> 00:19:09,281
I mostly have been

903
00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,983
just receiving,

904
00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:11,783
you know,

905
00:19:11,783 --> 00:19:12,784
and being responsive

906
00:19:12,784 --> 00:19:13,952
to, local

907
00:19:13,952 --> 00:19:14,786
community folks

908
00:19:14,786 --> 00:19:16,722
that are processing

909
00:19:16,722 --> 00:19:17,289
and wrestling

910
00:19:17,289 --> 00:19:18,824
through this and.

911
00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:19,057
- What it

912
00:19:19,057 --> 00:19:19,391
what are they

913
00:19:19,391 --> 00:19:19,892
telling you?

914
00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:21,226
What are you hearing?

915
00:19:21,226 --> 00:19:21,860
- Well, 

916
00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:23,195
so we need

917
00:19:23,195 --> 00:19:25,230
to do something,

918
00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:26,932
that this of course,

919
00:19:26,932 --> 00:19:28,267
this was the case.

920
00:19:28,267 --> 00:19:30,002
Like, you know,

921
00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:32,504
we always knew, right?

922
00:19:32,504 --> 00:19:34,373
We we should,

923
00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:35,374
you know, cancel

924
00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:36,308
and rename,

925
00:19:36,308 --> 00:19:37,442
you know, brand

926
00:19:37,442 --> 00:19:38,677
rename things.

927
00:19:39,811 --> 00:19:40,345
You know, what

928
00:19:40,345 --> 00:19:41,947
are you doing?

929
00:19:41,947 --> 00:19:42,414
You know,

930
00:19:42,414 --> 00:19:42,881
and so

931
00:19:42,881 --> 00:19:45,884
I think that's part of,

932
00:19:46,051 --> 00:19:47,819
you know, I'm, I'm,

933
00:19:47,819 --> 00:19:50,822
I'm having a a personal,

934
00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:51,723
campaign kickoff

935
00:19:51,723 --> 00:19:53,192
on the 31st

936
00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:54,960
at El Centro.

937
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,728
And, and obviously,

938
00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:57,596
when I first chose

939
00:19:57,596 --> 00:19:58,197
a date,

940
00:19:58,197 --> 00:19:59,231
I had a different idea

941
00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:00,532
in mind.

942
00:20:00,532 --> 00:20:02,401
And but.

943
00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:03,402
- And that is for your run

944
00:20:03,402 --> 00:20:04,937
for King County.

945
00:20:04,937 --> 00:20:05,437
Or freaking

946
00:20:05,437 --> 00:20:07,706
like council, right.

947
00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:10,642
And so, I know now,

948
00:20:10,642 --> 00:20:11,276
I'm, I'm

949
00:20:11,276 --> 00:20:14,246
reaching out to grief

950
00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:15,480
 practitioners

951
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,448
so that we can have

952
00:20:16,448 --> 00:20:17,849
a grief station

953
00:20:17,849 --> 00:20:18,617
while we're there.

954
00:20:18,617 --> 00:20:19,151
I'm, I'm

955
00:20:19,151 --> 00:20:22,154
reaching out to,

956
00:20:22,588 --> 00:20:23,789
survivor,

957
00:20:23,789 --> 00:20:24,957
support services

958
00:20:24,957 --> 00:20:26,124
so that we can make sure

959
00:20:26,124 --> 00:20:26,858
that that space

960
00:20:26,858 --> 00:20:28,627
is there to,

961
00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:31,396
I think that,

962
00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:31,730
you know,

963
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:32,731
we have to create

964
00:20:32,731 --> 00:20:34,333
these communal spaces

965
00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:35,267
for us to be able

966
00:20:35,267 --> 00:20:36,568
to process

967
00:20:36,568 --> 00:20:38,203
the rage and the grief.

968
00:20:39,171 --> 00:20:41,106
And,

969
00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:41,807
you know, creating

970
00:20:41,807 --> 00:20:43,742
space for voices

971
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:45,677
to be centered,

972
00:20:45,677 --> 00:20:47,613
and, and start

973
00:20:47,613 --> 00:20:48,747
thinking about

974
00:20:48,747 --> 00:20:49,481
what is healing

975
00:20:49,481 --> 00:20:49,982
look like,

976
00:20:49,982 --> 00:20:50,616
what is our way

977
00:20:50,616 --> 00:20:52,751
forward together?

978
00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:54,987
Because,

979
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:55,621
when violence

980
00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:56,355
takes place,

981
00:20:56,355 --> 00:20:57,522
whether it's

982
00:20:57,522 --> 00:20:58,190
very intimate

983
00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:59,458
violence like this

984
00:20:59,458 --> 00:21:00,158
and that, you know,

985
00:21:00,158 --> 00:21:00,792
these and

986
00:21:00,792 --> 00:21:01,994
brave, brave women

987
00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:02,661
have been holding

988
00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:04,930
this secret for so long,

989
00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:05,964
or whether it's

990
00:21:05,964 --> 00:21:06,431
shootings

991
00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:09,434
in their streets, it has

992
00:21:10,569 --> 00:21:11,103
it goes way

993
00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:11,970
beyond those,

994
00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:12,938
those individuals.

995
00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:13,472
It

996
00:21:13,472 --> 00:21:14,439
it has impact

997
00:21:14,439 --> 00:21:15,307
on their families.

998
00:21:15,307 --> 00:21:16,708
It has an impact on

999
00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:17,376
all of us

1000
00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:18,143
that are reading

1001
00:21:18,143 --> 00:21:19,811
the news.

1002
00:21:19,811 --> 00:21:20,746
And, and

1003
00:21:20,746 --> 00:21:22,681
so we need to create

1004
00:21:22,681 --> 00:21:23,515
that space

1005
00:21:23,515 --> 00:21:24,349
for us to be able

1006
00:21:24,349 --> 00:21:24,883
to do that

1007
00:21:24,883 --> 00:21:27,486
work together.

1008
00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:28,020
- I sense

1009
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:28,253
that you're

1010
00:21:28,253 --> 00:21:31,023
really struggling.

1011
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,358
Yeah, yeah,

1012
00:21:33,358 --> 00:21:34,092
because you work

1013
00:21:34,092 --> 00:21:37,095
in the movement and just

1014
00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:37,929
losing about it.

1015
00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:41,600
- Yeah.

1016
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,000
Yeah.

1017
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,935
I mean,

1018
00:21:43,935 --> 00:21:46,938
yeah, it's it's it's,

1019
00:21:47,072 --> 00:21:48,573
you know,

1020
00:21:48,573 --> 00:21:50,709
I am because I,

1021
00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,512
I feel so

1022
00:21:53,512 --> 00:21:56,515
angry and and for me,

1023
00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:58,350
because I

1024
00:21:58,350 --> 00:22:00,652
been conditioned that

1025
00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:01,186
but also

1026
00:22:01,186 --> 00:22:02,854
because I am an I'm,

1027
00:22:02,854 --> 00:22:03,422
I try to be

1028
00:22:03,422 --> 00:22:03,989
a nonviolent

1029
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:04,690
practitioner.

1030
00:22:04,690 --> 00:22:06,692
That anger often,

1031
00:22:06,692 --> 00:22:06,992
you know,

1032
00:22:06,992 --> 00:22:09,995
shows up in tears.

1033
00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:12,364
That salt

1034
00:22:12,364 --> 00:22:13,532
tears are helpful

1035
00:22:13,532 --> 00:22:15,267
in terms of just,

1036
00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:16,501
releasing it in a way

1037
00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:17,202
that gives it back

1038
00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:18,503
to the Mother Earth

1039
00:22:18,503 --> 00:22:20,205
and as opposed to

1040
00:22:20,205 --> 00:22:20,939
lashing it out

1041
00:22:20,939 --> 00:22:23,675
to others. Right?

1042
00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:25,110
- So I feel you.

1043
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:26,945
You heard the news

1044
00:22:26,945 --> 00:22:28,580
you got in your car.

1045
00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:29,815
- Yeah, I did.

1046
00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:32,818
And you screamed.

1047
00:22:33,985 --> 00:22:35,620
- Yes,

1048
00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:38,123
I screamed and sad.

1049
00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:38,557
And I thought

1050
00:22:38,557 --> 00:22:39,958
of the sirens. Right?

1051
00:22:39,958 --> 00:22:42,661
I think of sirens. How,

1052
00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:43,929
when they're

1053
00:22:43,929 --> 00:22:46,932
screaming into,

1054
00:22:47,766 --> 00:22:48,533
all around us

1055
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,502
to let us know that

1056
00:22:50,502 --> 00:22:52,204
everything is not okay,

1057
00:22:52,204 --> 00:22:53,572
someone is in trouble.

1058
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:57,242
That help is on the way,

1059
00:22:57,242 --> 00:23:00,212
but often the help,

1060
00:23:00,879 --> 00:23:01,747
doesn't always get there

1061
00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:02,647
in time.

1062
00:23:02,647 --> 00:23:05,650
And,

1063
00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:06,852
and so I, I,

1064
00:23:06,852 --> 00:23:08,120
I was definitely,

1065
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:08,820
you know,

1066
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:10,322
just feeling that

1067
00:23:10,322 --> 00:23:12,791
I have to pause.

1068
00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:12,991
You know,

1069
00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:13,592
we all want to

1070
00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:14,226
take action.

1071
00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:15,160
We all and hold

1072
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,927
someone accountable.

1073
00:23:15,927 --> 00:23:17,462
We all want to, like,

1074
00:23:17,462 --> 00:23:20,332
make things right.

1075
00:23:20,332 --> 00:23:21,400
And sometimes

1076
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,403
they're not.

1077
00:23:27,172 --> 00:23:27,773
- They're not.

1078
00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:28,774
And you can't quickly

1079
00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:30,208
fix anything.

1080
00:23:30,208 --> 00:23:30,942
- No.

1081
00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:31,510
- Or you can't

1082
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:32,611
fix the past.

1083
00:23:32,611 --> 00:23:33,445
But now you have to

1084
00:23:33,445 --> 00:23:34,479
deal with the future.

1085
00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:34,913
And how

1086
00:23:34,913 --> 00:23:35,981
you address that.

1087
00:23:35,981 --> 00:23:36,648
So it does

1088
00:23:36,648 --> 00:23:38,717
change things.

1089
00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:39,351
But I suppose

1090
00:23:39,351 --> 00:23:40,085
the big challenge

1091
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:40,685
right now

1092
00:23:40,685 --> 00:23:42,320
is to not forget

1093
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,523
the fact that,

1094
00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:45,690
it was the United

1095
00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:47,359
Farmworkers

1096
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,193
and there was a

1097
00:23:48,193 --> 00:23:49,060
movement there,

1098
00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:50,295
and that really the farm

1099
00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:51,430
workers were the focus.

1100
00:23:52,631 --> 00:23:53,398
-Yes, they are.

1101
00:23:53,398 --> 00:23:53,632
- And the

1102
00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:54,299
challenges are

1103
00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:55,801
still there to.

1104
00:23:55,801 --> 00:23:57,436
So. Yeah.

1105
00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:58,870
- Yeah.

1106
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:59,104
Yeah.

1107
00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:00,071
I mean, the

1108
00:24:00,071 --> 00:24:01,506
the farm workers

1109
00:24:01,506 --> 00:24:03,942
are the movement. Right?

1110
00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:05,110
And,

1111
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:06,511
and it's each one of us

1112
00:24:06,511 --> 00:24:07,846
and I think that,

1113
00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:08,814
what I said

1114
00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:09,481
as I read that

1115
00:24:09,481 --> 00:24:11,483
article and,

1116
00:24:11,483 --> 00:24:12,951
saw when of

1117
00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:13,985
another mentor

1118
00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:16,988
of mine, leader who I,

1119
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:17,789
was part of,

1120
00:24:17,789 --> 00:24:18,723
LCLAA when we started

1121
00:24:18,723 --> 00:24:18,990
LCLAA

1122
00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:20,192
here again in Washington.

1123
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:21,092
And what is LCLAA?

1124
00:24:21,092 --> 00:24:22,627
I'm sorry.

1125
00:24:22,627 --> 00:24:23,161
Oh, no.

1126
00:24:23,161 --> 00:24:23,829
You're gonna ask me.

1127
00:24:23,829 --> 00:24:27,132
I Latin-American council

1128
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,733
is Latino.

1129
00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:29,701
Unionists open,

1130
00:24:29,701 --> 00:24:30,635
come together.

1131
00:24:30,635 --> 00:24:31,136
Someone else

1132
00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:31,503
will tell me

1133
00:24:31,503 --> 00:24:32,671
what the acronym is.

1134
00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:36,174
But, Cynthia Bell

1135
00:24:36,174 --> 00:24:38,210
When when I was a young,

1136
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:41,213
organizer, she and was,

1137
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:42,814
you know, a

1138
00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,050
seasoned organizer.

1139
00:24:45,050 --> 00:24:47,853
And, really,

1140
00:24:47,853 --> 00:24:48,987
when I was experiencing

1141
00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:49,254
a little

1142
00:24:49,254 --> 00:24:51,189
machismo myself,

1143
00:24:51,189 --> 00:24:51,723
within that

1144
00:24:51,723 --> 00:24:53,592
organization,

1145
00:24:53,592 --> 00:24:54,426
she's someone

1146
00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:55,560
that's like

1147
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,061
calling the

1148
00:24:56,061 --> 00:24:58,163
bull****, and,

1149
00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,498
and then to see,

1150
00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:00,432
you know,

1151
00:25:00,432 --> 00:25:01,566
her picture in there

1152
00:25:01,566 --> 00:25:03,068
and the article,

1153
00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:03,468
and made me

1154
00:25:03,468 --> 00:25:04,536
want to reach out to her

1155
00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:06,104
and just be so thankful.

1156
00:25:08,106 --> 00:25:09,875
- I, I don't

1157
00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:11,009
remember her name

1158
00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:11,643
right now, but,

1159
00:25:11,643 --> 00:25:12,177
I mean,

1160
00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:15,180
was she a victim or was.

1161
00:25:15,881 --> 00:25:18,016
- She was an organizer.

1162
00:25:18,016 --> 00:25:19,484
And, and I believe,

1163
00:25:19,484 --> 00:25:19,684
you know,

1164
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:21,520
definitely was harassed.

1165
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,321
And,

1166
00:25:23,321 --> 00:25:25,891
and she's pictured with,

1167
00:25:25,891 --> 00:25:26,725
another woman

1168
00:25:26,725 --> 00:25:27,726
in the picture.

1169
00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:29,594
That was,

1170
00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:31,196
definitely,

1171
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:34,199
one of the victims and,

1172
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,536
Yeah.

1173
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:38,670
So, so I think

1174
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:39,771
whereas again,

1175
00:25:39,771 --> 00:25:40,739
I think I lost my track,

1176
00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:41,373
but I think

1177
00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:42,240
where we are going with

1178
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,176
that, right, is that,

1179
00:25:45,176 --> 00:25:47,913
we, by pausing ourselves

1180
00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:48,880
enough and feeling

1181
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,348
this to remember,

1182
00:25:50,348 --> 00:25:51,216
and I told you, like,

1183
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:52,117
I recorded myself

1184
00:25:52,117 --> 00:25:52,884
because I wanted

1185
00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:54,219
to remember how I felt

1186
00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:54,719
and don't

1187
00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:55,754
want to be numb.

1188
00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:57,589
I don't want to like,

1189
00:25:57,589 --> 00:25:59,858
smooth this over.

1190
00:25:59,858 --> 00:26:01,626
And I want to make sure

1191
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:02,761
that as we

1192
00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:04,262
find our way forward,

1193
00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:06,097
that we are,

1194
00:26:06,097 --> 00:26:07,098
building a leader

1195
00:26:07,098 --> 00:26:08,433
for a movement,

1196
00:26:08,433 --> 00:26:09,501
a movement of

1197
00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:12,003
leaders that, are,

1198
00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:14,973
that know their power,

1199
00:26:14,973 --> 00:26:16,741
that are willing to

1200
00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:17,275
teach that

1201
00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:18,343
to our children

1202
00:26:18,343 --> 00:26:19,377
so that,

1203
00:26:19,377 --> 00:26:20,412
we are building

1204
00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:22,414
a stronger movement,

1205
00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:23,148
for the

1206
00:26:23,148 --> 00:26:25,884
farmworkers, for,

1207
00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:26,651
healing,

1208
00:26:26,651 --> 00:26:28,420
for making sure that,

1209
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:29,654
we are going to root out

1210
00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:31,590
this violence,

1211
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,692
and,

1212
00:26:33,692 --> 00:26:34,225
and build

1213
00:26:34,225 --> 00:26:35,694
the justice movement

1214
00:26:35,694 --> 00:26:36,094
that,

1215
00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:36,928
you know, farmworkers

1216
00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:38,863
and all of us deserve.

1217
00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:39,030
Well,

1218
00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:39,831
- I think

1219
00:26:39,831 --> 00:26:40,732
what's important,

1220
00:26:40,732 --> 00:26:43,168
too, is

1221
00:26:43,168 --> 00:26:44,336
that machismo

1222
00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:46,204
needs to be called out.

1223
00:26:46,204 --> 00:26:47,906
And, you know,

1224
00:26:47,906 --> 00:26:49,374
and I know it's,

1225
00:26:49,374 --> 00:26:49,608
you know,

1226
00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:50,275
unfortunately, is

1227
00:26:50,275 --> 00:26:52,143
part of our culture.

1228
00:26:52,143 --> 00:26:53,011
It's not just

1229
00:26:53,011 --> 00:26:53,778
our culture.

1230
00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,981
I think it's everywhere.

1231
00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:57,682
Chauvinism exists

1232
00:26:57,682 --> 00:26:59,584
and it's a real issue.

1233
00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:01,286
And,

1234
00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:02,354
but this can also

1235
00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:04,222
be a time to really,

1236
00:27:04,222 --> 00:27:04,990
take advantage

1237
00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:06,658
of a crisis

1238
00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:08,326
and turn it into

1239
00:27:08,326 --> 00:27:10,095
a teachable moment.

1240
00:27:10,095 --> 00:27:11,830
That would be beneficial

1241
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:12,998
for the long term

1242
00:27:12,998 --> 00:27:13,865
because you can't

1243
00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:14,633
can't have that.

1244
00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:15,300
And women

1245
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,267
have been the backbone

1246
00:27:16,267 --> 00:27:18,069
of all of this movement,

1247
00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:20,071
let's face. Yes. Yeah.

1248
00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:24,075
Gotta make that happen.

1249
00:27:24,075 --> 00:27:27,078
So as we close here

1250
00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:28,246
with your last

1251
00:27:28,246 --> 00:27:29,280
thoughts, but

1252
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,848
and I know

1253
00:27:29,848 --> 00:27:30,248
that there's a

1254
00:27:30,248 --> 00:27:31,249
lot going on

1255
00:27:31,249 --> 00:27:31,950
and there's

1256
00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:32,951
this kind of sense

1257
00:27:32,951 --> 00:27:35,854
of grief right now, but,

1258
00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:36,688
I guess

1259
00:27:36,688 --> 00:27:38,123
kind of going forward.

1260
00:27:38,123 --> 00:27:39,958
What are you thinking?

1261
00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:41,693
- Well, I'm thinking that,

1262
00:27:41,693 --> 00:27:44,162
you know, as you know,

1263
00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:45,063
as both,

1264
00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:45,730
you know, leaders

1265
00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:46,398
in our community,

1266
00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:47,098
I think,

1267
00:27:47,098 --> 00:27:47,666
you know, how

1268
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:47,966
we might

1269
00:27:47,966 --> 00:27:48,600
want to

1270
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,801
talk about a follow up

1271
00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:50,869
and talk about, like,

1272
00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:51,202
how are we

1273
00:27:51,202 --> 00:27:52,170
creating space

1274
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,173
for addressing that?

1275
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:56,074
You made me

1276
00:27:56,074 --> 00:27:56,841
think of one

1277
00:27:56,841 --> 00:27:57,308
other thing.

1278
00:27:57,308 --> 00:27:58,309
This is another resource

1279
00:27:58,309 --> 00:27:59,010
out there, right?

1280
00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:00,111
That,

1281
00:28:00,111 --> 00:28:00,478
Tanya

1282
00:28:00,478 --> 00:28:01,846
Keenan and Pureblood

1283
00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:03,915
Garcia have a podcast

1284
00:28:03,915 --> 00:28:04,683
that they've been doing

1285
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,252
called ¡Adelante! Leadership 

1286
00:28:07,252 --> 00:28:08,687
And it has been really

1287
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,588
about unpacking,

1288
00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:11,489
you know, some of,

1289
00:28:12,524 --> 00:28:13,725
these themes that we've

1290
00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:14,159
been talking

1291
00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:16,661
about today. Right?

1292
00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:18,063
And,

1293
00:28:18,063 --> 00:28:19,064
and so I think

1294
00:28:19,064 --> 00:28:20,331
about my children

1295
00:28:20,331 --> 00:28:22,634
and I think about,

1296
00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:24,102
you know, the,

1297
00:28:24,102 --> 00:28:25,070
the culture

1298
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:25,770
that I've been trying

1299
00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:27,439
to build with them.

1300
00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:29,340
That gives me hope

1301
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:30,075
because I do

1302
00:28:30,075 --> 00:28:31,042
think I have two

1303
00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:31,743
young people

1304
00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:34,512
that, that understand,

1305
00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:36,181
that to be a feminist

1306
00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:36,781
has nothing

1307
00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:38,116
to do about your gender,

1308
00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:39,284
but it's about your mind

1309
00:28:39,284 --> 00:28:41,453
frame and your mindset.

1310
00:28:41,453 --> 00:28:42,787
And so,

1311
00:28:42,787 --> 00:28:43,221
you know,

1312
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:44,556
they give me hope.

1313
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,458
They help me be better,

1314
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,726
as a parent.

1315
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,260
And what my, my message

1316
00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:49,861
is, is

1317
00:28:49,861 --> 00:28:50,261
the message

1318
00:28:50,261 --> 00:28:50,929
of the movement

1319
00:28:50,929 --> 00:28:52,163
is, sí  se puede

1320
00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:54,599
sí  se puede.

1321
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:55,700
- Rebeca Saldaña,

1322
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:56,234
thanks for

1323
00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:57,102
taking the time.

1324
00:28:57,102 --> 00:28:59,571
I appreciate it. And,

1325
00:28:59,571 --> 00:28:59,838
we'll see

1326
00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:00,839
what happens ahead.

1327
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:01,639
I mean, it's going to be

1328
00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:02,741
a lot of internal

1329
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,175
looking at people,

1330
00:29:04,175 --> 00:29:05,443
you know, just

1331
00:29:05,443 --> 00:29:06,044
the movement,

1332
00:29:07,312 --> 00:29:08,279
individuals.

1333
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:10,148
And it's time to,

1334
00:29:10,148 --> 00:29:10,782
really face up

1335
00:29:10,782 --> 00:29:11,649
to some hard

1336
00:29:11,649 --> 00:29:13,651
reality here, but also,

1337
00:29:13,651 --> 00:29:14,552
I think,

1338
00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:15,353
do something about it

1339
00:29:15,353 --> 00:29:15,954
going forward.

1340
00:29:15,954 --> 00:29:17,555
Thanks for your time.

1341
00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:18,990
- Yes. Thank you so much.

1342
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:19,457
- All right.

1343
00:29:19,457 --> 00:29:20,959
Sí se puede is right. 

1344
00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:29,934
[♪♪]