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Welcome to City Inside
Out Council Edition.

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I'm your host, Brian Callanan.

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The City of Seattle is trying
to tackle homelessness

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with a plan to add
1,000 units of shelter

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by the end of this year.

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But there's a new
audit of the county's

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Regional Homelessness
Authority that's raising

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some new questions.

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Plus, there's some
added scrutiny

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facing Seattle's Vision
Zero Traffic Safety Program

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program after an alarming
spike in pedestrian deaths.

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Council members Eddie Lin
and Rob Saka are discussing

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these issues and answering the
questions you're sending in

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too, next on Council Edition.

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We need to do a better job of
bringing people indoors and then

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importantly surrounding them
with wraparound services.

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I have a lot of concerns about
citing new mega data centers.

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All that and more coming
up next on City Inside

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Out, Council Edition.

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And glad to be with you
once again on City Inside

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Out Council Edition here
on the Seattle Channel.

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I'm Brian Callanan and with me
this month I have two council

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members that are ready to talk
about issues that affect you.

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First up, Councilmember
Eddie Lin representing

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District 2 which covers the
south part of Seattle, Yesler

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Terrace to Rainier Beach.

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Good to see you.

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Thanks for having me back.

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Also with us, Councilmember
Rob Saka representing District

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1 from South Park out to
West Seattle, Georgetown

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over to Pioneer Square.

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Thank you for being here too.

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Thank you, Brian.

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Excited to be here.

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Yeah, there's a lot to
talk about here, some big,

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big stories unfolding.

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Even as we're recording the
show, I want to start with the

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city's response to homelessness.

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And Councilmember Lin,
let me begin with you.

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Mayor Wilson has called for
1,000 new units of shelter to

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house people who are homeless,
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by the end of the year.

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You sponsored some bills
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red tape in that process.

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The council's also working
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existing shelter sites.

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Is the city going to hit that
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Because I know council staff
wasn't so sure about that.

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What's going on?

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- Yeah, I'm not sure if we're
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but the important thing is
to do as much as we can

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as quickly as we can, while
also being very mindful

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and thoughtful of how we're
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in these shelters, how
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that they're well integrated
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address any public
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So very supportive.

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There was nothing more
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here on the campaign trail,
hearing from residents,

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I think we are all frustrated
by our lack of progress.

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I'm excited that
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is taking a more hands-on
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In the past, too often we
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to our nonprofit providers.

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We also outsourced it to a bit
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Homeless Authority,
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about that probably
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- But, you know, so I think
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of this issue.

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So I think the mayor's
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and I'm excited to see that.

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And I think what is new is
this approach of making sure

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that we have robust
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that people can get mental
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I think that that's
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to making sure that this works.

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And we're gonna
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that we appropriately
fund those services

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and that's gonna be
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- Absolutely, going
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I know there's
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on the council about that.

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Councilmember Saka, I want
to talk about a new shelter

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that I believe is set to
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Glassyard Commons, West
Marginal Way Southwest, near

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the First Avenue South Bridge.

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This site would have RV parking,
tiny homes as well, with

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room for more than 100 people,
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Is this project on track?

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What do you want to say to
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maybe, who might be concerned
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public safety, et cetera?

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Yeah, so first off, my
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project is on track.

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I've been working now with
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deliver this project, and
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Yeah, it's been around for a
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So I would like to see this
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Brian, you should know that my
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number of RV encampments
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encampments as well.

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And people
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for our unhoused neighbors.

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We need to do a better job of
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then, importantly, surrounding
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to address the various
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so I say that because my
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impacted by the
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our entire region is
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Glassyard site as a
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broader solution to to
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I'm really excited about the RV

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safe lot component where
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sanitation services, cleanup.

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And the idea is to get
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some point too, right?

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Yes, absolutely.

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But we need to start somewhere.

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Okay. And so I'm excited about

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the Glassyard site.

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That said, I'm also mindful

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of some of the very valid
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of the surrounding neighbors.

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We want to make
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neighbors in, that are—many
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or unsheltered, that
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our community agreement—to be
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neighbors to each other.

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And part of that is, you know,
establishing good neighbor

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agreements, or whatever
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to make sure that there's a
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neighbors can call if they have
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and address any local issues
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Sure. Okay.

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I know there's a lot still
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it's going to be a lot of action
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Absolutely. But I'm
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I'm interested to see
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I want to talk about some news
really developing as we speak

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with regard to the King County
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An audit commissioned by
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that the KCRHA lacks internal
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its $205 million budget
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$8 million in public funds.

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Councilmember Lin, I
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The mayor has some issues
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One of your colleagues,
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made this statement at a
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The evaluation shows a pattern
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can no longer be tolerated.

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It is time to find a
different way to make this

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very important work happen.

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Councilmember Dembowski
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companion resolutions to
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dissolution of KCRHA and a plan
for the future that includes all

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of us, the city and the county,
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to find a better way.

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The mayor has said that
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table but Councilmember Rivera
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shut down county Councilmember
Rod Dembowski too is it time to

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shut down the KCRHA i think we
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options need to be on the table
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understand what the role of the
KCRHA is going forward it's a

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very concerning uh audit report
certainly want to hear KCRHA's

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response to the audit.

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But as I was saying earlier,

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you know, I think it's
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take a much more proactive
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more proactive role in siting

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locations, permitting.

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Really appreciate
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leadership in saying, yes,
we need more sites in my

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district. Too often, you know,
we have folks saying not here,

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somewhere else and we need
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we need this here.

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And so I think there is a big

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question about what is
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take a more proactive
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I also think you
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intentions behind having a
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approach we need that but But
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the KCRHA was set up to fail a
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the powers that they needed.

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We never gave them
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And so we kind of created this
agency that was essentially kind

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of a pass-through administrator
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tools to solve the problem.

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And so we certainly need to
reimagine what their role is.

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And what would happen to
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if it would be dismantled?

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What do you think?

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Well, if it were shut down,
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reassume control of responding
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There's inherent challenges
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associated with that.

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But the underlying rationale
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the establishment of
the KCRHA was terrific.

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The problem we're seeing, and
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most recently the audit report,

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is that we haven't fully—that
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lived up to its intended goals
for any number of challenges.

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And check the newspapers for
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And I am personally gravely
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financial audit and findings
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in that audit report.

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I would like to see prompt,
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address those findings.

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I'd like to see stronger,
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I'd like to see fast, quick
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and mitigations in that regard.

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I'm not personally in a
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that we should affirmatively
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down and abolish KCRHA.

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That said, I do think it is
fair to say, at least from my

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perspective, the future of that
organization is very fragile.

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One could say the organization
is effectively on life support

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at this point, subject to
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what it's going to take,
the transactional,

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operational costs,
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that, because the report
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this, it's going to be a
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intensive effort.

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When you layer that on top
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administrative costs
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rising, mounting
through the roof.

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So we need to evaluate.

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I favor a more, you
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approach and finding what's
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this right.

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But everything is on the table.

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All that is to say,
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the table from my perspective.

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Councilmember Saka, back to
you talking about audits.

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You're calling for one
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Vision Zero program, which
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traffic deaths in the
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So there was a recent report
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traffic fatalities fell between
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But the number of pedestrians
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Got an email on this from
Britt, who writes this.

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It seems we spend a lot of
Vision Zero money on education.

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Why not spend more of that
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That would make roads safer
for the most vulnerable

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users, pedestrians, bikers.

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That means curbs,
Councilmember Saka.

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How do you respond
to Britt's comment?

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How's an audit going
to help out here?

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I appreciate Britt's comment.

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Shout out to Britt.

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Shout out to Britt.

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And proud that we were
able to save Kirby.

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Yes, we need curbs too.

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But in any event, to address
the question, I'm calling

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for an audit because we are
currently not on track to meet

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this very ambitious, laudable
goal that we all want to see.

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The elimination of traffic,
deaths, and serious

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injuries on our roads.

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And while on the one hand,
while we've made some great

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and encouraging progress,
we're still way behind

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the eight ball in terms of
being in a better position

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to actually achieve this.

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Now, Brian, an audit is the
most powerful, one of the most

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powerful accountability
tools that we have at our

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disposal, certainly from a
legislative perspective.

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And so that layered with
other things, I'm confident

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will help make a difference.

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The intent there is to, and it's
intentionally an outside audit.

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SDOT does its own independent
reviews and they shall continue.

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They should continue
that great work.

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We also need an
outsider's perspective.

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And so I've tabulated it
up, rough estimate, roughly

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just under $900 million
that council wrote into the

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transportation levy that
voters approved in 2024.

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roughly almost half of the
$1.5 billion eight-year levy

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was used for traffic
safety investments,

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including, by the way, to
the commenter's point,

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that covers road designs,
because under our

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Complete Streets Policy,
every single time there's

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a major rehabilitation
pavement project,

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the city sort of reimagines
the use of that road

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and redesigns it and
optimizes it for current

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and future uses and trends,
which includes safety

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as an important factor.

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So we're spending a lot of
money on, as we should, safety.

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I just want to see us.

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I'm not in the business
of having these

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lofty, ambitious goals and
not doing anything about it.

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Now, whether it's the 30 by 30
initiative for SPD female hiring

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or this or any other goal,
why have a goal if you're not

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going to set and enforce high
standards and hold yourselves

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to the highest, that standard?

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And that's what
this is all about.

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Thank you for that.

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Councilmember Lin, I'll
throw another email your

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way about this topic.

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Kyle asks this.

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Do you have faith that
SDOT will dramatically

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decrease crashes on Rainier,
MLK, and Aurora by 2030?

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What about the rest of
Seattle's high injury network?

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As you know, there are a lot
of issues on Rainier and

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MLK in your district there.

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I'm thinking about the
safety of that area.

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How do you respond
to that question?

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I know the goal was to
say zero deaths by 2030.

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Is that going to happen?

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Yeah, I'm certainly concerned
that we are not on track.

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I think it's going to require
electeds to lean into this

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issue, to insist that SDOT
take very bold measures.

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You know, unfortunately,
their North Rainier

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is extremely dangerous.

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And we just opened up the
Jutkins Light Rail Station,

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and there's a lot of pedestrian
issues with people trying

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to get through the on-ramps
and off-ramps of I-90.

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And, you know, there was
a reported death just

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recently from an accident.

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And, you know, last year I
participated with a group

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that did a kind of like a
funeral walking across the

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street at that location.

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And, you know, so for that
to come true so quickly

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is pretty devastating.

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And our district has some of
the most dangerous roads.

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I think Osaka's
district as well.

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And, you know, there's a
few different things in

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terms of traffic safety.

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It is typically engineering,
enforcement and education.

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Right. Engineering is
certainly the preferred route.

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We need to get
people to slow down.

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We need to make sure that
our roads are designed

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well with appropriate safety
measures for pedestrians, for

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bicyclists, for everybody.

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But, you know, we also have to
look at the other things around

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enforcement and education.

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You know, even though
enforcement is not a

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preferred option, that
that needs to be one of

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the tools in the tool belt.

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But most of all, we just
need drivers to slow down.

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You know, that is the number one
reason why we see fatalities

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is, you know, the faster you go,
the more likely there's going

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to be that serious incident.

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So we need to do everything
we can in that regard.

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Thank you.

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Councilmember Lin, let me
stick with you and talk

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about the comprehensive plan
process that you're chairing.

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This is the roadmap, I should
say, for how and where

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growth happens in Seattle.

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You actually hosted the first
public meeting on Phase 2 of

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the comp plan a few weeks ago.

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Tell me about what you heard
at that hearing, and what

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does Phase 2 really mean?

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Yeah, that is a good question
that I'm getting a lot,

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because it's pretty confusing
for folks, this whole

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comprehensive plan process.

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We've been going
through it for years.

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We adopted the comprehensive
plan last year, at

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the end of last year.

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We also adopted the zoning for
our neighborhood residential

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areas, which used to be
our single-family areas.

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Now they're neighborhood
residential.

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We did not adopt zoning
for the rest of the city.

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And so now we have to go
through and adopt that zoning.

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And so I'm trying to come
up with a good analogy.

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not sure if this quite does it,
but it's almost like if you were

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painting a picture and you sort
of, the comprehensive plan

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is the broad outline.

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Now we're going back and
filling in the details,

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right? And so, and again, we
filled in those details for the

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neighborhood residential zones.

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Now we have to fill in the
details for everywhere

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else. We're painting by numbers.

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Yes. And we don't have to
be super strict on the

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lines. There's a little bit of
flexibility around those lines,

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but we are filling in the exact
zoning sort of requirements.

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You know, what, you know, how
tall you can build, setbacks,

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all those details,
which really matter.

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That's what we're doing
for what's called

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centers and corridors.

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So this is along a lot of
our, you know, arterials,

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along our frequent
transit routes,

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also a lot of the new
neighborhood centers

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and other more dense areas.

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Those are the next phases
of the comprehensive plan.

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- That was a pretty
good breakdown.

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Thank you.

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I've been talking about
that plan for a while.

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Councilmember Saka, another
viewer email coming in

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your way about this topic.

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Lin wants to know this.

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We desperately need housing
and better transit everywhere.

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Will Councilmember Saka
work with pro-neighborhood

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center groups, the mayor,
and councilmembers to

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find a way forward for
the Alki neighborhood?

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Lin wants to know about the
Alki neighborhood in particular.

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Any thoughts about that and
just how you're approaching

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this next phase of the process?

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Yeah, excellent question.

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Shout out to Lin.

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And first off, that was
an A-plus summation of

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the phase two process.

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Thank you, Councilmember Lin.

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That's the Transportation
Committee chair saying that.

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And I love the
analogy of painting.

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In my head, I had this vision
of Bob Ross just painting.

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Your hair's a lot shorter.

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Puffy little clouds
and everything.

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But I appreciate
Lin's question.

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I, during the phase one
portion, I met with everybody.

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I listen to everybody,
in neighborhood groups,

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people who are pro-housing,
pro-density, pro-trees,

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pro-development, all of the
above and everywhere in between.

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And we're already—my office is
already undertaking similar

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effort to make sure whatever
policy decision I do make on

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the final phase two legislation
is going to be one that's

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That's 100 percent
informed by community.

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With respect to the Elk High
Neighborhood Center, one reason

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why I did not support that
last year, in addition to the

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whole procedural due process or
lack thereof—this is essentially

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sprung upon communities
at the last minute.

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Meanwhile, others had years and
many months at a bare minimum to

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plan and prepare an opportunity
to provide feedback, it

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just did not meet the
evaluation criteria that

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we use for determining
neighborhood centers.

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Now, and one of those
pertains to transit.

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I would like to see if the city
policy direction is to create

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a new Elk High Community Center,
or excuse me, neighborhood

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center, rather, I would love,
love, love to see in parallel,

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and I'll be overseeing and
shepherding this process

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from a council perspective
during the upcoming potential

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renewal of the Seattle
Transit measure, let's expand

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transit service out there.

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So we either revise the
evaluation criteria

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or make it actually fit.

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And so one way we can do that

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is expand transit service
and I'm excited about

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that opportunity.

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But, you know, continue
to listen to stakeholders

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across the board.

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- Okay, can I ask
you just briefly

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on what's happening with
data centers in Seattle?

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Big headlines on this, I
know a lot of people wrote

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just about every council
member out there.

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Some of these big tech
companies are saying,

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yeah, we need to build
data centers here.

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There's been a lot of
pushback about this.

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People worried about
environmental concerns

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and things of this nature.

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What's going on?

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- Yeah, no, we have
certainly, we're flooded with

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quite a few emails.

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There's a lot of concern and
a lot of it got triggered

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by some reporting that
there is inquiries about,

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and these aren't just sort of
your standard data centers.

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These were mega data centers,
50 megawatts and up.

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- 'Cause the city has
some smaller ones, right?

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- We absolutely do.

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We have quite a few
small data centers.

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You know, we have big
tech, we have biotech,

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We have a lot of needs for data,
but certainly I have a lot

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of concerns about citing new
mega data centers in our city.

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What we heard from all the
reporting is that this would

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require enormous amounts
of new energy sources.

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Besides, at least in
other locations, data

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centers are consuming
massive amounts of water.

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I'd be concerned about
security issues.

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And so, you know, typically,
or not typically,

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but oftentimes when there's
a proposal like this,

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it is a newer proposal,
some one tool that we

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have is a moratorium
that buys us some time.

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So typically a
moratorium would be like

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a 12 month moratorium and
you develop a work plan

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to study the issue.

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And it just allows
council to have the time

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to understand the issue
better, to put some

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guardrails around it.

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And so that's something
we're looking into

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and something that
I would support.

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There was just to
mention that there were

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other councilmembers that
had already been looking

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into this for a few months,
Councilmember Juarez, Council

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President Hollingsworth,
they were already

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looking into it before
sort of the firestorm.

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But it's certainly something
that I think is warranted.

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- Okay, thank you for that.

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I'm gonna try to fit
in a big question

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about public safety if I can.

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And Councilmember Lin, you
very recently held a public

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safety meeting in your district
after some concerns about

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00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:42,090
increased drug use, fires,
safety issues, and a number of

490
00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:43,700
Beacon Hill green spaces there.

491
00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:46,388
There's actually been some
talk about temporarily

492
00:22:46,388 --> 00:22:49,077
closing Lewis Park near the
Jose Rizal Bridge due to

493
00:22:49,077 --> 00:22:50,578
some illegal camping there.

494
00:22:50,579 --> 00:22:53,160
Can you give us an update
on what's happening and the

495
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,359
message you have for D2?

496
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,740
Yeah, no.

497
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:58,180
- So North Beacon
Hill, Little Saigon,

498
00:22:58,180 --> 00:23:00,859
and they are very interrelated.

499
00:23:00,859 --> 00:23:02,778
There's just the Jose
Rizal Bridge there,

500
00:23:02,779 --> 00:23:05,799
but otherwise it's
very similar activity

501
00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:08,278
on both sides of
the bridge there.

502
00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:12,278
And North Beacon Hill has
experienced a significant uptick

503
00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:17,160
in drug dealing
and related fires,

504
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,700
crime in the neighborhood.

505
00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:22,640
And we certainly have to
get our handle around this.

506
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,920
And it's a complex issue.

507
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,140
It's obviously related to
our homelessness issue.

508
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:32,667
And I think what we are seeing
with our unhoused population

509
00:23:32,667 --> 00:23:36,917
and similar, you know, hot
spots for drug activity, for

510
00:23:36,917 --> 00:23:40,707
black market goods, is we
are seeing a mix of needs

511
00:23:40,707 --> 00:23:45,420
around, you know, unhoused,
mental health, drug addiction.

512
00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:49,079
And the mayor's office has
spoken quite a bit about this.

513
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,628
And I think we need to talk
more about many of our

514
00:23:51,628 --> 00:23:54,441
unhoused neighbors, you
know, are very vulnerable

515
00:23:54,441 --> 00:23:57,599
in terms of public safety,
who experiences some of the

516
00:23:57,599 --> 00:23:59,319
most public safety issues.

517
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:00,109
It's our unhoused.

518
00:24:00,109 --> 00:24:01,000
They're preyed upon.

519
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,961
And I think we need to,
you know, deal with that

520
00:24:03,961 --> 00:24:06,844
reality that they are
often taken advantage

521
00:24:06,844 --> 00:24:08,480
of by criminal elements.

522
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,923
And so I believe we need
to focus more on the folks

523
00:24:11,923 --> 00:24:15,625
that are coming in to take
advantage or to take cover

524
00:24:15,625 --> 00:24:19,845
within, you know, they might
set up a tent and it's actually

525
00:24:19,845 --> 00:24:21,739
a drug dealing operation.

526
00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:22,240
It's happened before.

527
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,680
or an RV that might be not,
nobody's living in the RV,

528
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,099
it's just a drug
dealing operation.

529
00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:30,316
And so I think we need to
absolutely have increased

530
00:24:30,316 --> 00:24:32,460
enforcement on the drug dealing.

531
00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:34,680
We also need to deal
with the black market,

532
00:24:36,019 --> 00:24:38,846
just goods that are
happening at 12th and

533
00:24:38,846 --> 00:24:40,759
Jackson that we can all see.

534
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:42,723
So certainly look forward
to working more with

535
00:24:42,723 --> 00:24:44,779
the mayor's office,
city attorney, King

536
00:24:44,779 --> 00:24:45,980
County prosecutor.

537
00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:49,400
We need to have an all
hands on deck approach.

538
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,076
We need to include the care
team to help us with our

539
00:24:52,076 --> 00:24:53,140
behavioral health.

540
00:24:53,140 --> 00:24:54,359
And this is why
it's so important

541
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,739
and why I'm so supportive
of this proposal

542
00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:02,599
to expand our shelter with
super robust mental health

543
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:04,638
and drug addiction supports.

544
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,099
- Hopefully we'll
help in that area.

545
00:25:06,099 --> 00:25:08,240
Councilmember Saka, I'm
gonna try to squeeze this in.

546
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,740
I've read recently
in the Seattle Times

547
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:13,840
that City Parks is paying for
private security overnight

548
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,403
at Golden Garden Park over
in Ballard there over

549
00:25:16,403 --> 00:25:16,869
the summer.

550
00:25:16,869 --> 00:25:18,499
You serve on the Parks
Committee and I know

551
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:21,007
you've been trying to keep
Alki Beach safer in your

552
00:25:21,007 --> 00:25:22,319
district for example too.

553
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,740
Is it time to bring private
security to more parks

554
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,644
around our city,
maybe West Seattle?

555
00:25:26,644 --> 00:25:28,554
What's what's going
on with this?

556
00:25:28,554 --> 00:25:30,599
Yes, yes it is time
and I would love to

557
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:35,099
see an expansion of private
security, either private

558
00:25:35,099 --> 00:25:38,778
security—so, you're referring
to the initiative by

559
00:25:38,778 --> 00:25:41,079
our Parks Department to
hire private security.

560
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:42,939
That would essentially
be a second set of eyes.

561
00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:45,373
And if there's a public safety
emergency that rises to the

562
00:25:45,373 --> 00:25:47,936
level of criminal activity
or conduct, then they

563
00:25:47,936 --> 00:25:49,798
would immediately call SPD.

564
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:54,786
I would love to see that at—you
know, rolled out more broadly

565
00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:58,613
across the city, especially
and including Alki

566
00:25:58,613 --> 00:25:59,819
and Harbor Avenue.

567
00:26:00,898 --> 00:26:04,325
Would also love to see
additional SPD emphasis

568
00:26:04,325 --> 00:26:07,400
patrols and directed
patrols in the area.

569
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,433
I—because of some efforts that
we undertook a few years ago

570
00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:17,140
now, including some of these
speed humps, we're seeing less

571
00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:19,378
problems speeding and racing.

572
00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:23,528
But the underlying
activity, in terms of

573
00:26:23,528 --> 00:26:28,900
excessive noise, partying,
the trauma that that has

574
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:31,509
on impacted residents
and neighbors is still

575
00:26:31,509 --> 00:26:34,118
completely out of hand
and unacceptable, and

576
00:26:34,118 --> 00:26:35,098
I won't stand for it.

577
00:26:35,099 --> 00:26:38,659
Yes, we need those, and I've
already been asking for them.

578
00:26:38,659 --> 00:26:39,159
Okay, great.

579
00:26:39,159 --> 00:26:42,194
We do need to wrap up, and I
do want to make sure we take a

580
00:26:42,194 --> 00:26:45,480
look at the latest viral video
starring Councilmember Rob Saka.

581
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,578
Were you waiting for
that ball to hit me?

582
00:26:50,579 --> 00:26:51,538
Well, guess what?

583
00:26:51,538 --> 00:26:53,940
I'm waiting for our Seattle
Supersonics to come back.

584
00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:55,771
And as chair of our
city's Sports and

585
00:26:55,771 --> 00:26:58,398
Experiences Committee,
otherwise known as STEPS,

586
00:26:58,398 --> 00:27:02,200
I'm doing everything in my
power to bring our Sonics back.

587
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,898
Councilmember Saka, pretty
incredible video there.

588
00:27:04,898 --> 00:27:06,796
You sponsored a
resolution to welcome

589
00:27:06,796 --> 00:27:08,098
the Sonics back recently.

590
00:27:08,099 --> 00:27:08,720
What's the latest?

591
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,599
What's going on?

592
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:12,923
Well, the latest is we are well
positioned as a city, from

593
00:27:12,923 --> 00:27:16,618
a city of Seattle
government perspective, to

594
00:27:16,618 --> 00:27:18,618
win a Sonics bid.

595
00:27:18,618 --> 00:27:23,808
Ultimately, those decisions rest
in the hands of third parties,

596
00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:27,730
private stakeholders, the
of the league, prospective

597
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:28,919
ownership groups.

598
00:27:28,919 --> 00:27:31,618
All we can do on the
city side is ensure

599
00:27:31,618 --> 00:27:36,839
that our city-owned, operated,
or co-owned, operated facilities

600
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,838
in the surrounding
area is NBA ready.

601
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:44,299
And proud to share that
our Climate Pledge Arena

602
00:27:44,299 --> 00:27:46,797
is a world-class
arena, successfully

603
00:27:46,797 --> 00:27:48,278
hosts the storm today.

604
00:27:48,278 --> 00:27:50,339
Why not the new Sonics?

605
00:27:50,339 --> 00:27:54,664
And I think a cherry on top
to this would be, and we're

606
00:27:54,664 --> 00:27:58,990
currently exploring right
now, a pathway to do that

607
00:27:58,990 --> 00:28:03,719
is to renovate and modernize
the Seattle Center campus.

608
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,230
I think the actual Climate
Pledge Arena itself is

609
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:09,719
ready, but more of it.

610
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,871
Why not renovate and modernize
and restore the vibrancy

611
00:28:12,871 --> 00:28:15,619
and the beauty of the
Seattle Center in parallel?

612
00:28:15,619 --> 00:28:17,378
That would be the cherry on top.

613
00:28:17,378 --> 00:28:17,878
That would be.

614
00:28:17,878 --> 00:28:18,559
Love to see that.

615
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,739
Councilmember Lin, just
a quick check on this.

616
00:28:20,739 --> 00:28:23,523
Did that viral video, did it
make you feel like you had

617
00:28:23,523 --> 00:28:24,979
a virus when you watched it?

618
00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:26,339
Or what was your
thought about it?

619
00:28:27,579 --> 00:28:30,878
As viral as the video is, I
actually have not seen it.

620
00:28:30,878 --> 00:28:31,779
I need to watch it.

621
00:28:31,779 --> 00:28:32,318
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

622
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:33,299
Tune in.

623
00:28:33,299 --> 00:28:37,460
But super excited for the
potential Sonics return.

624
00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:41,464
You know, we, I think there's
no better place to be as

625
00:28:41,464 --> 00:28:43,700
a professional sports team.

626
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:47,038
No better fans for both
men and women's sports.

627
00:28:47,038 --> 00:28:49,059
And super excited to
see their return.

628
00:28:49,059 --> 00:28:52,519
Hopefully we have some local
high school basketball players.

629
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,419
We got the award-winning
Rainier Beach basketball team.

630
00:28:56,419 --> 00:28:59,019
I'd love to see them
in some Sonics gear.

631
00:28:59,019 --> 00:28:59,579
- That's great.

632
00:28:59,579 --> 00:29:00,960
Councilmember Lin,
Councilmember Saka,

633
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,959
thank you for joining us.

634
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,720
We'll see you next time
on Council Edition.

635
00:29:06,019 --> 00:29:23,259
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