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-Welcome to City 
Inside/Out.

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I’m your host Brian Callanan.

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Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson

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took office just over
three months ago,

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but she's launched
several proposals

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that could have impacts
for years to come.

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-I Katie Wilson, swear...

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-Mayor Katie Wilson 
says she's making

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progress on a campaign
promise to add a thousand

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homeless shelter spaces
in her first year.

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-We are moving
faster than ever before.

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-Her multimillion dollar
plan to add tiny homes

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and other shelter

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options has raised
plenty of support

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and plenty
of questions, too.

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-What is included
for that cost?

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-Fire, fire.
Fire dispatch.

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-Plus, Mayor Wilson
has paused the expansion

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of surveillance cameras

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in Seattle

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amid concerns over

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the federal immigration
crackdown.

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And she's wrestling

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with a looming $140
million city deficit.

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-So you can expect to hear
a lot more

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about budgets and revenue
in the months ahead.

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-And that's not all

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Seattle's 58th
mayor is trying

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to tackle early in her
first term.

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-Didn't expect
to be the sports mayor,

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you know?
-Yeah, I know!

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Assessing Mayor Katie
Wilson's first 100 days,

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next on City Inside/Out.

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♪♪

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-Thanks once again for
joining us here on City

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Inside/Out on the Seattle
Channel.

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Brian Callanan
here with you.

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And I am with Seattle's
58th mayor Katie Wilson.

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Mayor Wilson, great
to have you here.

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-Great to be here, Brian.
-All right, here we go.

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I wanted to talk about
this. We’re

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right at this mile stone

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of your first 100 days
in office here.

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I know
you set a lot of goals

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during your campaign.

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We'll get into those
during the show here.

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But just to start,

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what have the last three
plus months been like?

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Are you where you wanted
to be?

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Any surprises
at this point?

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What do you got?

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-Yeah, I mean, it's
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And you know,
mostly in a good way.

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But yeah, I mean,
we're hitting the ground

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running on a lot
of the big priorities

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that I came in with,

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notably shelter expansion,

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which I'm sure
that we'll talk about.

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But yeah,

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I mean, a lot of focus,
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on building a stellar team
that's going to lay

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a great foundation
for the next four years.

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So that's, you know,

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staffing in the mayor's office

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and working with our
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and I'm really excited.

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I think, you know,
the vibe is good.

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Anything that surprises.
-Suprises, yeah.

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-I didn't expect
to be the sports mayor.

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-Yeah, I know.

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Could.

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Could you actually have
a Super Bowl,

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Mariners win the World Series,

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and the Sonics
come back during your.

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-And we got the World
Cup coming.

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-Right, right, right,
right, right. Yeah, right.

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-It's pretty exciting.

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And I've actually
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going
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I was actually at the

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Mariners game
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where we beat the Yankees.

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-Heck yeah.

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-So I'm really having
a lot of fun with that.

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-Okay. All right.
Thank you for that.

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I do want to get into this

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this issue of homelessness
that you thought it...

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that you brought up here.

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You made a promise
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to establish a thousand
new shelter units

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in the first year
of your term; 4000

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over the four years
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You've recently
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to the city council
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I know you'd really like
to stand up

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500 units by June
in time for the World Cup.

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Tell us about that
legislation.

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Give us the big picture

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about
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-Yeah.

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So we are aiming for 500

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units in the first half
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and the legislation

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that we transmitted to

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council is kind of part
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of what we need for
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Some of it is unlocking
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some of it
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the, you know,

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the number
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that can be in
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in a way

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that would allow us
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successful sites

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that already exist..
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-Yes, and then the other piece
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more technical,

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but it's really

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about allowing the city
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sign the contracts
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the process
of preparing sites

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as opposed
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that out to service
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-Yeah, so it can go
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in making that happen to

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the permit
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Is that what it is?
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I do want to talk about
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this might be paid for

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and some of the challenges
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You're pulling together
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dollars in

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funds
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from different sources to
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Council staff
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and I wanted to read a few

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blips from their report
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One quote,

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Stated goal,
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I just want to make sure
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are you actually going

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to have on line
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and how will you pay
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we've set a big,
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500 a thousand this year, 4000
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And I think the point here
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get us all moving
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with urgency
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the scale of the challenge

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that we are trying
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I mean, we're
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out in terms of units,

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but I really don't think
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the number of shelter
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is the most
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What I really want to do
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unsheltered
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because we know that the

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the number of people

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who are sleeping
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without a home
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is astronomical.
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than even
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across the country.
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-Yeah, absolutely.

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we're really
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at tackling
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and and we're

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doing the things
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So like,
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I hope so.

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But I think we're moving
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you know, discussing
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with the public
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that we're headed
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you know,
lots of great partners and

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but we're also seeking

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philanthropic support.

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probably be
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I think the really
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we know that

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we don't just need
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or even just a tiny house,
but a lot of folks

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coming out
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especially if they have
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needs related
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use disorder
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need a lot of support.

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And so we're
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especially in these
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that we're standing up

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to make sure that we have

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those wraparound
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that we know
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are going to need
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So we're putting a lot of
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you know, the one time
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costs is one thing,
but it is very important

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to have that ongoing
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So as my team is really

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looking to the city budget
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fall's budget process,
we're going to be working

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very hard
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that we have those ongoing

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operating funds
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-Got it.

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of how the council's
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I've been trying
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over the past
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I think there's definitely
support going on there.

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They want this
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and to do that,

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you really do
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from neighborhoods, etc.

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It feels like a balance
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between the speed
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and making sure
people are vetting this.

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Do you sense that
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or that struggle there I guess. 
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And I think that's exactly
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It's like we know
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with urgency and at scale.

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like everyone
pulling together. Right.

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And and we also know that,
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welcoming a shelter

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or tiny house village
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also want to make sure
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that it's going to be well

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run and that, you know,
it's not going to have

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big negative impacts
on the neighborhood.

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And so we're sensitive
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And, you know, making sure

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to do the kind of outreach
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just having
really good plans in place

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both for those onsite

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services
and for public safety

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and make sure that we're

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prepared to really remain
in constant communication

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with residents,
with businesses,

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with others

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in the neighborhoods
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so that we can make sure
that this is successful.

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Authority might play here?

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Because as I see it,
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might end up using for

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this project is money
that was originally

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earmarked for the KCRHA?

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Do I have that right?

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-So the funding that
we have now identified in

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the city budget
is not KCRHA funding,

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that’s funding
within Seattle's budget

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and we're really at least
for these initial sites

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and we're kind of doing it
in-house at the city.

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And at the same time,
I'm now a new board

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member of the King County

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Regional Homelessness
Authority.

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So obviously there's

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a larger conversation

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there around

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the authority's

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role and,
you know, working...

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-Should the city be doing
this, should that KCRHA

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be doing this?
That's the question.

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-And I think those
conversations are ongoing.

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Okay. All right.
Thank you for that.

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I know we'll

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hear more about that
in the months upcoming.

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I want to move on
to another big issue

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in terms of an early part
of your term,

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surveillance cameras.

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You held a town
hall on this recently.

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You can watch it
right here

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on the Seattle Channel
if you'd like.

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You've put a pause on the

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expansion of this program,

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an expansion the city

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council approved last year.

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But you're not going to
shut down the 62 cameras

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the city’s
currently using.

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I remember you telling me
on the campaign trail

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you had a lot of concerns

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about how these cameras
could be used

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to potentially
target immigrants

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in our community or women
looking for

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reproductive health
services.

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Has your stance shifted
on surveillance cameras?

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How would you
describe that?

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So I still have all

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of those concerns
that I expressed

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during the campaign
around the ways

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that our

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surveillance
could be misused if it

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falls into the hands
of the federal government.

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And really, that's
why we're doing this

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pause on the expansion,
pending an audit,

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which will take
a few months,

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basically, of the city’s 
and data sharing storage

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kind of
security practices.

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So we're really trying
to do that due

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diligence to figure out

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like what
are the vulnerabilities

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in the system,

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what are the risks
that we're taking

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and what can we do
to mitigate those risks.

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And actually, we are
shutting one camera off.

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So there's one
particular camera

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which is near a facility
that offers

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reproductive and gender
affirming care.

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And so we are,

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you know, taking
the precaution of shutting

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that camera off,
also pending this audit.

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And to be clear,
you know, SPD

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and the Real-Time
Crime Center,

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they were actually
masking that area.

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But we just want to make
absolutely sure

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that we're not collecting

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sensitive data
that could be misused.

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-Okay.

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I know a lot of people

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who supported

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your campaign
might be saying,

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wait a minute,

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I thought we were getting
rid of these cameras.

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What do you tell them?

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-I mean, well, first,

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to be clear,
like I never said,

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I'm going
to shut off all that.

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So I expressed concerns
about the expansion.

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And I think this is just

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really a legitimately
complicated issue

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with really strong

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feelings on both sides
and real considerations

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on both sides. Right.

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And so,
you know, these cameras,

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from what I've seen
and I think,

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you know,

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just to note
the other thing

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that's going on, because
the cameras themselves

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that are in
place is a pilot, Right.

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And the cameras are
currently on North Aurora,

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kind of downtown
business district,

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in the Chinatown
International District.

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They only started
operating

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basically
in spring of last year.

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So this is a fairly
new program

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and there's an evaluation
going on this year,

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which will give us
a better idea

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of how those cameras
are being used

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and what kind of,
you know,

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public benefit basically
we are getting from them.

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From what I have seen
through my visit,

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my staff visits
to the real time crime

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center and conversations
with SPD,

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they are legitimately
useful in solving crimes.

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Right.

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Including serious crimes
like homicides. Right.

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And there's real value
in that,

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right, both for victims,
victims families

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and just the broader
community. Right.

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We live in a rule
based society, right?

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There's value
in solving crimes.

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And so I think
that can't be discounted.

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And and then on
the other side,

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there are legitimate
concerns

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about privacy and about,
you know, data security and all that.

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-I want to talk

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about what's next
with these cameras.

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So you administration

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is going through

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an audit
of this technology

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with help
from the New York

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University's
Policing Project,

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an organization
that helps with police

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accountability
and transparency.

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Councilmember Bob Kettle

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put out a statement
about that, specifically

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with expansion of cameras
in the Stadium District.

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He said, in part

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I know that Councilmember

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Kettle supports the audit.

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He has said that,

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but he's really pushing
to get these stadium

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cameras up and going
and running by June 1st.

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Is that going to happen?

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So and to be clear,
just for the for context,

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so the expansion
that the council approved

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last year would place

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cameras in three
additional neighborhoods.

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The Stadium District
is one of those three.

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The Central District
near Garfield

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was another of those.

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And then the Capitol Hill
nightlife district.

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-Right. -So that's what
we've put on pause.

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We're making
a partial exception

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to that pause

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in the sense

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that we are going
to move forward

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with installing
the 20 cameras

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that were slated
for the Stadium District

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because
of the World Cup coming,

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but not turn them on

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unless there is
a credible threat.

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So that is our position
at the moment.

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And we're working with SPD
to figure out kind of

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what is that threshold
that a credible threat.

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And so
we are installing them

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because there is

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this big mega
event with lots of,

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you know,
complexity to it.

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And so we want to be
prepared

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to use those cameras
if it feels warranted.

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At the same time,

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I would just caution
against like

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getting too
hung up on this

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because the fact is

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there is going to be

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a lot of like safety
and security protocol

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and actors
kind of in the vicinity

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for that event. 
-Okay.

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-I mean, first of all,
if you just think

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about the stadium area,

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there are tons of cameras
around the stadium area

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and there's
this whole area

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that's being basically
pedestrianized

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around Pioneer Square
for the event. -Right.

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-There's going to be,
you know,

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car proof barriers

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and there's going to be
lots of law enforcement,

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both our own
law enforcement,

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other law enforcement
coming

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00:13:23,969 --> 00:13:25,471
in, federal agents
as well.

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So, you know,

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like we are not like
there's no

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there is no moment
at which we felt like

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we needed these cameras

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for any kind of basic
safety and security.

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So, like,

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I you know,

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I just don't
want to get too hung up

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on, like,

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the importance
of these cameras

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in the context
of that event.

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-Thank you for breaking
that down.

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One of the biggest
concerns about cameras

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is that federal

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immigration officials
could obtain that footage

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from Seattle, as they have
in other cities.

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Use that video
to target immigrants.

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I know you're talking
a lot about Trump proofing

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Seattle on the campaign
trail.

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Has Seattle
been successful

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in Trump proofing itself?

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I know the cameras
are just part of that.

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-Yeah, I mean,
and to be clear,

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SPD does not share footage

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from the cameras
with federal agencies.

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Right.

476
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And, you know,

477
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some of just to address

478
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some of the concern,
for example around flock

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ALPR cameras

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that have been used in
other cities

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was that

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there was like
an automatic setting

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on those cameras

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where data was shared

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automatically
with other agencies,

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including
federal agencies.

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That is not the case
with this.

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So here

489
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we have... 
-ALPR, automated license plate readers.

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Keep going.
-It gets very complicated, but the

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main point is that

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there
we are not sharing data

493
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with federal authorities
from these cameras and

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we would know
if a request came in

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for that data and,

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you know, if,

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if and when there is
some kind of

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like really stepped up
ICE activity

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like, for example,
we saw in Minneapolis,

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we will shut those cameras
down. Right.

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So just to be clear,
this is not data

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sharing is not something
that is happening.

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-Okay. Thank you for that.

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I want to talk city budget
with you, if I could.

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You've inherited a budget
with a $140

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million deficit, which
I know you know very well.

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You've asked
city departments

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to look at a 5
to 10% reduction

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in their budgets
as a start. Beyond that,

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00:15:05,371 --> 00:15:05,905
talk to me

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about how you're
approaching approaching

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the budget season
this year.

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How do you get the city
back in the black?

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-Yeah, I mean,

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this is
a really challenging issue

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and it's you know,
the city has had

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this structural budget

518
00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,017
deficit for years
now, right?

519
00:15:18,017 --> 00:15:19,485
So this is not like
a surprise.

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This is not a new problem.
-Right.

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-And I mean, basically,

522
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this is like the city
facing

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00:15:24,223 --> 00:15:25,591
a lot of the same cost
pressures

524
00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:27,126
that individuals
and families are, right.

525
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Inflation, everything's
getting more expensive

526
00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:31,964
and and then some specific

527
00:15:31,964 --> 00:15:34,533
city issues
like the fact that our,

528
00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:37,136
you know, property
tax does not increase

529
00:15:37,136 --> 00:15:38,003
with inflation.

530
00:15:38,003 --> 00:15:39,738
It's actually capped
at a 1% increase.

531
00:15:39,738 --> 00:15:41,440
And so this creates
a structural problem

532
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,109
in our general fund
specifically.

533
00:15:44,109 --> 00:15:45,811
And so the approach
of the previous

534
00:15:45,811 --> 00:15:48,314
administration
was really kind of

535
00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:49,848
duct tape
like pledging things

536
00:15:49,848 --> 00:15:51,350
together, one time fixes.

537
00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:52,418
And so we're in a position

538
00:15:52,418 --> 00:15:53,953
where we do
have this ongoing;

539
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,487
we don't know exactly
what the magnitude is,

540
00:15:55,487 --> 00:15:59,425
but at least like $150
million a year deficit.

541
00:16:00,359 --> 00:16:02,328
We don't want to make $150

542
00:16:02,328 --> 00:16:03,562
million dollars
a year in cuts

543
00:16:03,562 --> 00:16:05,698
like that would be
pretty devastating.

544
00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:06,865
So we have US departments

545
00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:09,535
to model
five and 10% cuts,

546
00:16:09,535 --> 00:16:11,570
but we are looking at

547
00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:13,772
our options
in terms of new revenue

548
00:16:13,772 --> 00:16:15,507
to not have to make
those cuts.

549
00:16:15,507 --> 00:16:17,209
And I'm not going to give
a lot of detail here

550
00:16:17,209 --> 00:16:18,277
about what
those options are,

551
00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:19,078
because that's
just something

552
00:16:19,078 --> 00:16:21,046
that my team
is working on internally.

553
00:16:21,046 --> 00:16:22,715
But we definitely don't
want to be having

554
00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:25,918
to present an austerity
budget to the council.

555
00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:28,320
I will say that
at the same time,

556
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,022
we are also taking
a very close

557
00:16:30,022 --> 00:16:31,223
look at all the ways that

558
00:16:31,223 --> 00:16:32,391
the city is spending
money.

559
00:16:32,391 --> 00:16:36,028
And I do think that it's
important to prioritize.

560
00:16:36,028 --> 00:16:37,463
And if there are programs
that aren't working

561
00:16:37,463 --> 00:16:38,497
the way
we want them to work,

562
00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:39,932
I think we can't be afraid
to shift

563
00:16:39,932 --> 00:16:41,900
money to things that are working. 
-Thanks.

564
00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:43,969
I wanted to go down
that path of revenue

565
00:16:43,969 --> 00:16:44,870
and where
it's coming from,

566
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:46,338
because you mentioned
recently

567
00:16:46,338 --> 00:16:48,407
at the Downtown
Seattle Association's

568
00:16:48,407 --> 00:16:49,775
State of the City event

569
00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:51,176
that it's not ideal

570
00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:51,777
for Seattle's

571
00:16:51,777 --> 00:16:53,946
tax environment
to be wildly out of step

572
00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:55,147
with neighboring
jurisdictions.

573
00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:56,749
The DSA brought this up.

574
00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:58,283
Downtown Seattle has lost

575
00:16:58,283 --> 00:17:00,519
37,000 jobs over the past
five years.

576
00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:03,922
Downtown Bellevue has had
12 12% job growth.

577
00:17:04,423 --> 00:17:05,858
There's
taxes on big businesses.

578
00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:07,393
I know that's
a big part of the reason

579
00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:09,061
why the budget
for the city of Seattle

580
00:17:09,061 --> 00:17:10,396
actually stayed
the way it does.

581
00:17:10,396 --> 00:17:11,463
You know,
the Jumpstart tax,

582
00:17:11,463 --> 00:17:14,133
because you introduced it
as a as just a member

583
00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:15,634
of the public
several years ago.

584
00:17:15,634 --> 00:17:17,736
But I wanted
to get to that question of

585
00:17:17,736 --> 00:17:19,838
how can you
convince businesses

586
00:17:19,838 --> 00:17:22,841
not to move jobs elsewhere
if this

587
00:17:23,008 --> 00:17:25,177
concept of taxing
big businesses, taxing

588
00:17:25,177 --> 00:17:26,145
the rich is still

589
00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:27,980
very much in front of them
and on the table?

590
00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:29,515
-I think there's a couple
of things to say here.

591
00:17:29,515 --> 00:17:31,850
So one is, as we're
looking at progressive

592
00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:32,718
revenue options, we're

593
00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:36,722
definitely looking at ones
where we are, you know,

594
00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:39,024
asking the wealthiest
individuals and

595
00:17:39,024 --> 00:17:39,992
corporations to pay more.

596
00:17:39,992 --> 00:17:41,260
But we want to do that
in a way

597
00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:43,796
that is not changing
Seattle's

598
00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:45,431
business environment
for companies

599
00:17:45,431 --> 00:17:48,600
that are operating here
and creating a deeper

600
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,503
incentive to, for example,
move to Bellevue.

601
00:17:51,503 --> 00:17:53,639
So we're like sensitive to
that as we're

602
00:17:53,639 --> 00:17:55,407
looking at progressive
revenue options,

603
00:17:55,407 --> 00:17:56,875
I would say. Now,

604
00:17:56,875 --> 00:18:00,012
I you know, I have never
I'm not taking increases

605
00:18:00,012 --> 00:18:01,513
in JumpStart off the table

606
00:18:01,513 --> 00:18:02,314
because
we're going to have to

607
00:18:02,314 --> 00:18:03,682
make some hard decisions.
So I think

608
00:18:03,682 --> 00:18:05,851
that's a conversation
that we'll have.

609
00:18:05,851 --> 00:18:08,420
But I definitely would
much prefer to be

610
00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:11,223
looking at revenue options
that are not

611
00:18:11,223 --> 00:18:12,825
creating
more of a differential

612
00:18:12,825 --> 00:18:14,893
between our business
environment and Bellevue.

613
00:18:14,893 --> 00:18:15,794
But the other thing
that I'll say

614
00:18:15,794 --> 00:18:16,328
is that like,

615
00:18:16,328 --> 00:18:17,162
yeah, businesses

616
00:18:17,162 --> 00:18:18,964
care about taxes,
of course,

617
00:18:18,964 --> 00:18:21,100
but they care about
a lot of other things too.

618
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,568
And I think
when you talk to business

619
00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:24,903
owners
about what makes Seattle

620
00:18:24,903 --> 00:18:25,938
a good environment

621
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,339
to operate on versus
other cities,

622
00:18:27,339 --> 00:18:29,441
there are other things
that matter a lot.

623
00:18:29,441 --> 00:18:30,843
And I would say
that homelessness

624
00:18:30,843 --> 00:18:32,978
and public safety matter
a lot.

625
00:18:32,978 --> 00:18:34,746
It matters to the companies,
it matters

626
00:18:34,746 --> 00:18:36,849
to their workforce,
of course. Right.

627
00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:38,417
And so that's one area
where I think there's

628
00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:41,153
really strong alignment
between my administration

629
00:18:41,153 --> 00:18:43,255
and the business community
and frankly,

630
00:18:43,255 --> 00:18:45,891
just the general public of
wanting to see progress.

631
00:18:45,891 --> 00:18:47,292
And so we're
really leaning into that

632
00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:48,093
and really partnering

633
00:18:48,093 --> 00:18:49,228
with the business
community

634
00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:50,295
on making progress

635
00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:51,230
on the homelessness crisis

636
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:52,231
and on really figuring out

637
00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:52,998
how can we address

638
00:18:52,998 --> 00:18:54,766
some of these public
safety issues

639
00:18:54,766 --> 00:18:55,934
that are impacting
downtown,

640
00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:57,469
but also
other neighborhoods

641
00:18:57,469 --> 00:18:59,972
in a way that makes it a
hard place to do business?

642
00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:02,107
So I think that's an area
where we can make

643
00:19:02,107 --> 00:19:02,975
a lot of progress.

644
00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:04,343
And then, you know,
Seattle's got a lot

645
00:19:04,343 --> 00:19:05,210
going for us, too.

646
00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:06,111
I mean, we're like,

647
00:19:06,111 --> 00:19:07,946
it was just like
beautiful,

648
00:19:07,946 --> 00:19:08,514
you know,

649
00:19:08,514 --> 00:19:10,115
natural beauty, just like

650
00:19:10,115 --> 00:19:12,050
lots of great arts
and culture, right?

651
00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:14,319
So there's
a lot of reasons why

652
00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:15,821
companies would want
to operate here.

653
00:19:15,821 --> 00:19:17,523
And I think if we can make
some improvements

654
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:19,992
on some of those key
areas, then, you know, so

655
00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:20,392
I could get in.

656
00:19:20,392 --> 00:19:21,093
Taxes are important,

657
00:19:21,093 --> 00:19:22,561
but they're not the only thing.
-I guess the

658
00:19:22,561 --> 00:19:24,897
the overall question
I'm trying to get to is

659
00:19:24,897 --> 00:19:26,131
do you think Seattle

660
00:19:26,131 --> 00:19:29,134
has become unfriendly
to business in some way?

661
00:19:29,201 --> 00:19:30,903
-No. 
-Okay. All right.

662
00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:32,604
That's what you're
hearing from businesses or

663
00:19:32,604 --> 00:19:33,705
what are you hearing from
businesses

664
00:19:33,705 --> 00:19:34,640
you're talking to?
-I mean, again,

665
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,643
I think I'm hearing
and I'm hearing that they

666
00:19:37,643 --> 00:19:39,778
they care a lot
about making progress

667
00:19:39,778 --> 00:19:41,914
on the homelessness crisis
and on public safety.

668
00:19:41,914 --> 00:19:43,115
And I think,

669
00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:43,749
you know,
I mean, different

670
00:19:43,749 --> 00:19:44,750
businesses
are different. Right?

671
00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:45,450
But I think that

672
00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:46,051
there's a lot

673
00:19:46,051 --> 00:19:47,786
of businesses,
large and small,

674
00:19:47,786 --> 00:19:48,620
that are really deeply

675
00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:51,390
invested in this city
and in this community

676
00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:52,925
that want the city
to be successful,

677
00:19:52,925 --> 00:19:54,092
that love being here.

678
00:19:54,092 --> 00:19:56,495
And and I think
that they want

679
00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:58,830
a lot of what all of us
want is just for Seattle

680
00:19:58,830 --> 00:19:59,932
to be a great place

681
00:19:59,932 --> 00:20:02,100
to live, work and raise a family. 
-Got it.

682
00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:03,235
There's
another budget issue

683
00:20:03,235 --> 00:20:05,137
I really wanted to talk to
you about Seattle's

684
00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:06,572
C.A.R.E. teams,
Community Assisted

685
00:20:06,572 --> 00:20:07,906
Response and Engagement.

686
00:20:07,906 --> 00:20:09,508
These are the civilian 911

687
00:20:09,508 --> 00:20:11,009
alternative response teams

688
00:20:11,009 --> 00:20:11,710
that can respond

689
00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:13,011
to person down
calls, calls

690
00:20:13,011 --> 00:20:14,213
that don't necessarily

691
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:15,881
need an armed
police officer.

692
00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:16,982
So recently, CARE Chief

693
00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:19,284
Amy Barden said that
the contract

694
00:20:19,284 --> 00:20:21,353
the city negotiated
before you were in office

695
00:20:21,353 --> 00:20:22,654
with the Seattle
Police Officer's

696
00:20:22,654 --> 00:20:24,723
Guild has prevented
CARE teams essentially

697
00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:26,158
from doing their job,
she said.

698
00:20:26,158 --> 00:20:27,359
The 24 responders

699
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,394
who are out there right
now are only fulfilling

700
00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:31,230
28% of their capacity.

701
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:32,731
She doesn't want to waste
their expertise,

702
00:20:32,731 --> 00:20:34,199
doesn't want to waste
money here.

703
00:20:34,199 --> 00:20:35,400
I know you've been
a big supporter

704
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,835
of 911 alternatives.

705
00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:38,937
How do you resolve
the situation with CARE?

706
00:20:38,937 --> 00:20:41,907
Does the SPOG contract
need to be renegotiated?

707
00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:42,841
What's going on?

708
00:20:42,841 --> 00:20:45,811
-Yeah, I mean, obviously
the contracts not ideal,

709
00:20:45,811 --> 00:20:46,812
but I really think

710
00:20:46,812 --> 00:20:48,146
and you know,
in conversations

711
00:20:48,146 --> 00:20:49,681
where the Chief Bardin
and Chief Barnes,

712
00:20:49,681 --> 00:20:51,917
I think we're making
a lot of progress.

713
00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,286
Basically we can,
you know,

714
00:20:54,286 --> 00:20:55,988
respecting the contract.

715
00:20:55,988 --> 00:20:57,289
I think we can really
still

716
00:20:57,289 --> 00:20:58,590
use CARE to its fullest.

717
00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:01,260
So we're working on
creative ways to do that.

718
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,295
And part of that is that,
you know,

719
00:21:03,295 --> 00:21:04,596
the contract
is really focused

720
00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:07,399
on what happens
with 911 calls.

721
00:21:07,399 --> 00:21:09,001
But if there are
other routes

722
00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:11,370
where it could be
proactive potentially.

723
00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:12,170
Exactly right.

724
00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:12,904
You know,
we're looking at,

725
00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:13,138
you know,

726
00:21:13,138 --> 00:21:13,705
a partnership

727
00:21:13,705 --> 00:21:14,740
with the libraries
and just,

728
00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:16,275
you know, ways
that I mean, there's

729
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,110
no shortage of
work out there, right?

730
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:20,012
There's no shortage,
unfortunately.

731
00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,047
There's no shortage
of crises on our streets.

732
00:21:22,047 --> 00:21:22,481
Right.

733
00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:24,049
And so it's really just
being creative

734
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:26,151
about
how we utilize these,

735
00:21:26,151 --> 00:21:28,020
like skilled workers
to go out there

736
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,388
and provide that care

737
00:21:29,388 --> 00:21:31,323
and get people
into stable situations.

738
00:21:31,323 --> 00:21:32,824
And so I'm confident
that we can do that.

739
00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:33,692
And it's unfortunate

740
00:21:33,692 --> 00:21:34,493
that we have

741
00:21:34,493 --> 00:21:35,560
the restrictions
that we have

742
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,262
in that contract,
and we will be working on

743
00:21:37,262 --> 00:21:41,199
that as we go toward the
next cycle of negotiations

744
00:21:41,199 --> 00:21:41,700
with SPOG.

745
00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,568
But but in the meantime,

746
00:21:43,568 --> 00:21:46,004
I don't think that we're
going to have a problem

747
00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:47,973
utilizing that team. 
-Okay. Thank you.

748
00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:48,573
I wanted to mention

749
00:21:48,573 --> 00:21:49,741
something back
in February,

750
00:21:49,741 --> 00:21:50,575
the city council

751
00:21:50,575 --> 00:21:51,877
approved the transfer of

752
00:21:51,877 --> 00:21:54,880
$115 million towards
a social housing program.

753
00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:56,014
I wanted to
talk about this

754
00:21:56,014 --> 00:21:57,382
because this was
a very important

755
00:21:57,382 --> 00:21:58,617
part of your campaign,

756
00:21:58,617 --> 00:21:59,518
your support of that

757
00:21:59,518 --> 00:22:01,620
new funding mechanism for
it was a big reason

758
00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:03,388
why you got into this race
for mayor.

759
00:22:03,388 --> 00:22:04,189
What impact

760
00:22:04,189 --> 00:22:05,557
is this investment
going to have

761
00:22:05,557 --> 00:22:07,326
when it comes
to affordable housing?

762
00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:08,460
And when might Seattle see

763
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,961
some of these units
come online?

764
00:22:09,961 --> 00:22:11,730
-Yeah, I'm
very excited about this.

765
00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:13,332
I mean,
I think there was a lot

766
00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,467
of excitement
when we saw that the

767
00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:18,603
the revenue coming in from
from this new tax

768
00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:21,606
was significantly higher
than anyone projected.

769
00:22:21,807 --> 00:22:23,975
And so that means that
the new social

770
00:22:23,975 --> 00:22:24,876
housing developer,

771
00:22:24,876 --> 00:22:25,110
you know,

772
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:25,944
has the money that it

773
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:28,980
needs to begin acquiring
and developing property.

774
00:22:29,781 --> 00:22:31,616
And I don't want to
I know they're there

775
00:22:31,616 --> 00:22:33,118
working on a lot of things
behind the scenes.

776
00:22:33,118 --> 00:22:34,186
So I don't want to like

777
00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:35,487
make some kind
of public announcement,

778
00:22:35,487 --> 00:22:38,023
but I think we're very
optimistic that they're

779
00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:38,790
they'll be able to make

780
00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:39,991
their first
really significant

781
00:22:39,991 --> 00:22:42,527
property acquisition
this year.

782
00:22:42,527 --> 00:22:45,530
So that will see units
beginning to open up.

783
00:22:45,864 --> 00:22:47,299
And, you know,
my understanding

784
00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:48,133
of their strategy

785
00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:49,868
is that
they're both looking at

786
00:22:49,868 --> 00:22:51,002
an acquisition strategy

787
00:22:51,002 --> 00:22:52,838
where they would buy
existing buildings

788
00:22:52,838 --> 00:22:55,073
and turn that
into social housing.

789
00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:56,208
And also they're looking

790
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,542
at development
and developments

791
00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,578
specifically of family
sized units.

792
00:22:59,578 --> 00:23:01,380
And we know
that that is just a huge

793
00:23:02,714 --> 00:23:04,316
kind of gap in our housing or

794
00:23:04,316 --> 00:23:05,350
-There’s a lack of those for sure...

795
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:08,720
-That there's a huge lack
of a family-size units of,

796
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,723
you know, two, three,
four bedroom apartments.

797
00:23:11,823 --> 00:23:13,525
And so I think
they're really well

798
00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:14,993
positioned to begin

799
00:23:14,993 --> 00:23:17,162
to begin to fill
that gap in a way

800
00:23:17,162 --> 00:23:18,764
that is is affordable
for families.

801
00:23:18,764 --> 00:23:19,064
And I think

802
00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:20,766
just to just go back to

803
00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:21,333
when you were asking me

804
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:22,868
about what
businesses care about,

805
00:23:22,868 --> 00:23:24,069
I think it's also
really important

806
00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:24,636
to realize

807
00:23:24,636 --> 00:23:25,904
that the affordability
crisis

808
00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:27,439
that workers are facing
is an issue

809
00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:28,507
for their employers,
right?

810
00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:30,542
Like as an employer,
how are you going to,

811
00:23:30,542 --> 00:23:31,209
you know, recruit

812
00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:32,611
and retain
a great workforce

813
00:23:32,611 --> 00:23:33,578
if the people working for

814
00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:35,213
you can't afford to live
in this city?

815
00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:36,815
So I think it's
really important

816
00:23:36,815 --> 00:23:39,918
to emphasize that kind of
area of common ground.

817
00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:41,987
And because I think
there's a lot

818
00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:44,055
on both the housing crisis
that, you know,

819
00:23:44,055 --> 00:23:45,624
child care,
like all these aspects

820
00:23:45,624 --> 00:23:46,725
of the affordability
crisis,

821
00:23:46,725 --> 00:23:47,559
I think that's also

822
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,127
kind of concerns
that are broadly shared,

823
00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:50,595
including with
the business community.

824
00:23:50,595 --> 00:23:51,930
And so I'm really hopeful

825
00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:52,998
that, you know,

826
00:23:52,998 --> 00:23:54,599
even if there were some
differences of opinion

827
00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:56,935
about how to fund the
social housing developer,

828
00:23:56,935 --> 00:23:57,969
hopefully
we'll be able to have

829
00:23:57,969 --> 00:23:59,604
a partnership
in really building out

830
00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:01,573
this non-market
housing sector.

831
00:24:01,573 --> 00:24:02,874
-This feels like
just one piece

832
00:24:02,874 --> 00:24:04,176
of the much larger

833
00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:05,811
affordability
issue that I know

834
00:24:05,811 --> 00:24:06,845
I was talking to you
about this

835
00:24:06,845 --> 00:24:07,946
on the campaign
trail, too.

836
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:08,814
Do you feel like

837
00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:09,581
you've delivered on

838
00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:11,583
some of the things
you wanted to come,

839
00:24:11,583 --> 00:24:12,350
wanted to do there

840
00:24:12,350 --> 00:24:12,884
when you were

841
00:24:12,884 --> 00:24:14,386
campaigning in terms
of bringing more

842
00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:16,655
affordability to Seattle?
What can you say?

843
00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:18,590
-So we're you know,
we're 100 days in.

844
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:20,692
So give me a little time.
-Alright...

845
00:24:20,692 --> 00:24:22,060
Right, right,
right, right.

846
00:24:22,060 --> 00:24:24,896
-But yeah, I mean, we are
we are working on

847
00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:27,833
a number of strategies
around the housing crisis.

848
00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:28,233
And part of

849
00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:31,002
that is obviously social
housing and the city

850
00:24:31,002 --> 00:24:31,503
really working

851
00:24:31,503 --> 00:24:33,271
closely with the social
housing developers

852
00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:35,307
so that we're beginning
to expand that,

853
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:35,540
you know,

854
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:37,375
permanently affordable,
publicly owned mixed

855
00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:39,511
income housing
that we all want to see.

856
00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:40,712
But there's other things,
too, right?

857
00:24:40,712 --> 00:24:43,248
And part of
this is also recognizing

858
00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:44,716
that a lot of that

859
00:24:44,716 --> 00:24:47,552
that part of the housing
crisis that we now face

860
00:24:47,552 --> 00:24:49,855
comes from the fact
that as Seattle's

861
00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:51,857
been growing over the last
ten or 20 years,

862
00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:54,259
we really haven't added
housing supply to match.

863
00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:55,961
And that partly has to do
with our land

864
00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:57,796
use and zoning rules
and how hard we make it

865
00:24:57,796 --> 00:24:59,831
to permit new development
and all of that.

866
00:24:59,831 --> 00:25:01,733
So that's another whole
area that we're tackling.

867
00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:02,467
And I actually just made

868
00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:04,436
an announcement
earlier this week

869
00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:05,971
that we're going
to be accelerating

870
00:25:05,971 --> 00:25:07,739
the next couple of phases
of Seattle's

871
00:25:07,739 --> 00:25:08,974
Comprehensive Plan

872
00:25:08,974 --> 00:25:11,977
and aiming to go bigger
on things like allowing,

873
00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:14,079
you know,
multistory building,

874
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:14,446
you know,

875
00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:16,014
within a walking distance
of frequent

876
00:25:16,014 --> 00:25:17,983
transit corridors
and things like that.

877
00:25:17,983 --> 00:25:18,617
And so

878
00:25:18,617 --> 00:25:19,451
that's another piece

879
00:25:19,451 --> 00:25:22,587
of this and continuing
and stepping up the work

880
00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:25,023
internally
on our permitting

881
00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:26,625
processes
to try to make sure that

882
00:25:26,625 --> 00:25:27,993
it doesn't take,
you know, two years

883
00:25:27,993 --> 00:25:29,227
to begin
to develop something.

884
00:25:29,227 --> 00:25:31,129
So there's a lot
there as well.

885
00:25:31,129 --> 00:25:33,064
Renter protections
is another aspect of this.

886
00:25:33,064 --> 00:25:34,165
And we did

887
00:25:34,165 --> 00:25:36,001
put out a survey
to renters,

888
00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:38,103
which we have like
9000 respondents,

889
00:25:38,103 --> 00:25:39,437
which is like really cool,

890
00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:41,039
but that's informing
legislation

891
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,941
that we're now developing
around

892
00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:45,110
regulating or banning
various

893
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:46,511
rental quote
unquote junk fees

894
00:25:46,511 --> 00:25:48,413
or these kind of fees
that you're hit with

895
00:25:48,413 --> 00:25:50,348
as a renter
that you don't really know

896
00:25:50,348 --> 00:25:52,350
until you read the fine
print of your lease,

897
00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:53,618
and some of
which is really not clear

898
00:25:53,618 --> 00:25:55,487
that you're
getting anything for that.

899
00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:56,788
So there's a lot of

900
00:25:56,788 --> 00:25:58,723
kind of dimensions
on which we're tackling

901
00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,191
the housing crisis.

902
00:26:00,191 --> 00:26:01,927
-Need to do
the 30-second version with you,

903
00:26:01,927 --> 00:26:02,794
if I can.

904
00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:03,995
What's the latest
on the Sonics

905
00:26:03,995 --> 00:26:05,697
returning to Seattle?
Everyone wants to know.

906
00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:08,967
-I don't
want to jinx anything,

907
00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:10,702
but I think it's looking
good.

908
00:26:10,702 --> 00:26:12,270
-Okay. Okay.
That's a good sign.

909
00:26:12,270 --> 00:26:14,606
-I mean, I think, you know,
people probably know.

910
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:15,340
So the

911
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:16,007
where we're at in

912
00:26:16,007 --> 00:26:16,741
the stage right now

913
00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:17,275
is that

914
00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:18,810
the NBA has announced

915
00:26:18,810 --> 00:26:22,480
that they would like to
expand into into Seattle.

916
00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:25,116
And so right now,
what's happening

917
00:26:25,116 --> 00:26:26,318
is basically
the question is,

918
00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:28,753
can an ownership group
come together

919
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,756
and, you know,
cobble together the

920
00:26:32,223 --> 00:26:32,724
who knows

921
00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:34,059
how many billion dollars

922
00:26:34,059 --> 00:26:36,528
is going to be required
to fund the team?

923
00:26:36,528 --> 00:26:38,496
-I guess I would say
if your term

924
00:26:38,496 --> 00:26:40,065
this first year
encompasses

925
00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:41,866
a Seahawks Super Bowl win,

926
00:26:41,866 --> 00:26:43,835
the World Cup, Mariners
winning a World Series

927
00:26:43,835 --> 00:26:45,637
and the Sonics
returning to Seattle,

928
00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:47,706
do you just automatically
get mayor of the year?

929
00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:48,707
How does that work?

930
00:26:48,707 --> 00:26:50,308
-I think I've become mayor
for life at that point. -Okay,

931
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:52,744
We'll see how that goes.

932
00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:54,613
-Let me try for
one more question here.

933
00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:55,347
I wanted to ask

934
00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:55,947
about something

935
00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:56,881
that you were talking
about

936
00:26:56,881 --> 00:26:59,250
during your State
of the City,

937
00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:00,885
perhaps setting up
an intra

938
00:27:00,885 --> 00:27:03,154
governmental soccer game
before the World Cup.

939
00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:04,122
What's going on?

940
00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:06,591
-Yeah, no,
I am going to be inviting

941
00:27:06,591 --> 00:27:07,525
elected officials

942
00:27:07,525 --> 00:27:10,528
around our region
to come play soccer.

943
00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:12,530
And we'll see how many
people are interested.

944
00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:13,431
Right.
Maybe it's one game.

945
00:27:13,431 --> 00:27:15,000
Maybe
it's a little tournament.

946
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,769
But I just really think
that a lot of people,

947
00:27:17,769 --> 00:27:20,538
maybe people who can't
afford a World Cup ticket

948
00:27:20,538 --> 00:27:22,607
would like to come
and watch for free

949
00:27:22,607 --> 00:27:23,608
their elected officials

950
00:27:23,608 --> 00:27:25,243
embarrass themselves
on the soccer field.

951
00:27:25,243 --> 00:27:26,945
-I got to say,
I did ask Councilmember

952
00:27:26,945 --> 00:27:28,013
Hollingsworth and Foster

953
00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:29,414
when they were on the show
recently

954
00:27:29,414 --> 00:27:31,049
if they were up
for playing the game.

955
00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:32,083
They said no dice.

956
00:27:32,083 --> 00:27:33,284
I mean...
-What?! -I know

957
00:27:33,284 --> 00:27:34,352
is this a situation

958
00:27:34,352 --> 00:27:34,953
where maybe

959
00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:37,122
hire on Megan Rapinoe
as an

960
00:27:37,122 --> 00:27:39,290
advisor for a few days
or what's the plan?

961
00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:40,825
-I mean,
I want to be clear that

962
00:27:40,825 --> 00:27:42,193
this is going to be fun.

963
00:27:42,193 --> 00:27:44,696
Okay. So like, you're
not expected to be good.

964
00:27:44,696 --> 00:27:45,163
And I think it'll

965
00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:48,066
be more fun
if we're not that good.

966
00:27:48,066 --> 00:27:50,402
So I,
you know, open invitation.

967
00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:51,369
All the elected officials,

968
00:27:51,369 --> 00:27:53,171
I'm sure,
as we're watching this.

969
00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:54,873
Yeah. Come on, Come play
ball. It's gonna be fun.

970
00:27:54,873 --> 00:27:57,409
-I can't wait for that.
And we will be right back.

971
00:27:58,410 --> 00:27:59,411
What are people saying

972
00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:01,079
online about Mayor Wilson's

973
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:03,448
policies at the 100 day
mark?

974
00:28:03,448 --> 00:28:05,050
One person says

975
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:18,863
Another comments:

976
00:28:28,907 --> 00:28:30,742
We'd like to know
what you think.

977
00:28:30,742 --> 00:28:33,812
E-mail us at 
contact@seattlechannel.org,

978
00:28:34,012 --> 00:28:36,781
or find us
on social media.

979
00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:37,949
Good to have that input

980
00:28:37,949 --> 00:28:39,017
and great
to have you on the show.

981
00:28:39,017 --> 00:28:40,218
Mayor Wilson, Thank you.

982
00:28:40,218 --> 00:28:41,152
-Thank you, Brian.
-All right.

983
00:28:41,152 --> 00:28:43,621
And we will see you next
time on City Inside/Out.

984
00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:56,267
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985
00:29:00,972 --> 00:29:03,174
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