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-- AND GOOD MORNING. BONJOUR. I 

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SHOULD SAY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY 

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COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. 

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IT'S 9:34 A.M. JULY 14th, 2026.

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BASTILLE DAY. SO I THOUGHT I'D 

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THROW THAT IN. I'M ROBERT 

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KETTLE, CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC 

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SAFETY COMMITTEE. WILL THE 

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COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 

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ROLL? COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ HERE.

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-- COUNCILMEMBER LIN HERE. 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. 

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-- PRESENT. 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HERE. 

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CHAIR. KETTLE. HERE. CHAIR. 

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THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT 

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-- GREAT. THANK YOU. FOR CHAIR. 

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COMMENT. THIS MORNING I WANTED 

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TO START OFF WITH A THANK YOU. I

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WANTED TO THANK YOU FROM THE 

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FEDERAL DOWN TO THE LOCAL. 

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STARTING WITH THE FEDERAL LEVEL,

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WITH THE SECURITY EFFORT THAT 

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WAS DONE FOR THE FIFA WORLD CUP,

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STARTING AGAIN AT THE FEDERAL 

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LEVEL, THE SECRET SERVICE, WHICH

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HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR AT 

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THE FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT ALSO 

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OBVIOUSLY WITH. SUPPORTED BY THE

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FBI AT THE STATE, ACTUALLY AT 

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THE STATE LEVEL, THE LEAD IS THE

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OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, 

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BUT ALSO WITH WASHINGTON STATE 

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POLICE AND OTHERS. AND FROM THE 

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COUNTY LEVEL, KING COUNTY 

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SHERIFF, KING COUNTY, METRO 

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SECURITY, PLUS BASICALLY ALL THE

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OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT WERE 

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PROVIDING MUTUAL AID. THANK YOU 

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TO THEM. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, 

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NOT MORE IMPORTANTLY, BUT I WANT

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TO EMPHASIZE A THANK YOU TO THE 

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SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE 

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FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THE CARE 

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DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRST 

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RESPONDERS, FOR ALL THE WORK 

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THAT THEY DID IN SUPPORT OF OUR 

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FIFA WORLD CUP 26 EXPERIENCE 

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WITH ALL SIX GAMES MATCHES, IF 

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YOU WILL. BEING HELD HERE AND 

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BEING DONE WELL. SO THANK YOU TO

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ALL OF THEM. NOW FOR MY MAIN 

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CHAIR COMMENT. I WANTED TO NOTE 

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THAT RECENTLY I'VE BEEN 

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CONTACTED BY FOLKS RELATED TO 

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DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE

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SEEING NORTH AURORA AND LITTLE 

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SAIGON, AS IT TURNS OUT, WHICH 

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ARE TWO AREAS THAT I'VE BEEN 

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SPEAKING TO IN MY CHAIR COMMENT.

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I'VE BEEN GETTING REPORTS FROM 

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NORTH AURORA THAT THINGS ARE 

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SLIDING BACK TO THE NORM. I'VE 

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SEEN SOME DRAWDOWNS TO LITTLE 

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SAIGON, YOU KNOW, PARTLY IN 

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COUNTY SHERIFF AND THE LIKE. SO 

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WHAT I'VE SPOKEN TO BEFORE IN 

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TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE 

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CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE AS WE 

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TRY TO MOVE FORWARD ON PUBLIC 

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CAPACITY. THAT'S ALWAYS GOING 

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OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BUT WE ALSO 

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SUSTAINED. AND THIS IS WHERE IT 

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OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY WILL 

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NOTICE THAT WHETHER THERE IS A 

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OF THE EFFORT OR NOT, AND AS I 

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SAID BEFORE, TO IMPLEMENTATION 

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OF LAWS, BILLS PASSED INTO LAW. 

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THIS IS SO, SO IMPORTANT. AND 

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THIS SHOWS UP, YOU KNOW, WITH 

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OUR AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING 

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PUBLIC DRUG USE AND POSSESSION 

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BILL. SO THE BILL IT'S OFTEN 

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REPUBLICAN CITY ATTORNEY BILL. 

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THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, 

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ALONG WITH ME AND MY TEAM. I 

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WOULD ARGUE THAT IT WAS A VERY 

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POSITIVE EXAMPLE WITH RESPECT TO

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THE DEVELOPMENT OF SODA LAW OF 

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IMPACT ON THE DRUG MARKETS IN 

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PLACES LIKE BELLTOWN. IT WAS A 

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CRUEL TOOL TO BE IN THE TOOLBOX.

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IT WASN'T GOING TO SOLVE 

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AN IMPORTANT TOOL IN THE 

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TOOLBOX. AND I REMEMBER BEING IN

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BELLTOWN WHEN AN OFFICER CAME TO

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ME AND SAID, SIR, WE HAD OUR 

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FIRST SODA ORDER VIOLATION 

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ARREST, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS 

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MAKING AN IMPACT. BUT AS I SAID 

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BEFORE, LIKE IN TERMS OF WHAT 

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WASN'T SUSTAINED. IN FACT, IT 

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WAS PUSHED AGAINST AND IT WAS 

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PORTRAYED NEGATIVELY, WHICH 

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DIVERSITY OF THE LEADERSHIP OF 

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THOSE TEAMS. THE MAYOR, THE 

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FEMALE CITY ATTORNEY, AND OURS 

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IN A DIFFERENT. IN ADDITION TO 

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PRESENT, CREATING THAT LAW. BUT 

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HERE WE ARE TODAY LOOKING AT 

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PUBLIC DRUG USE AND POSSESSION, 

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WHY WE DON'T MAKE PROGRESS ON 

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THAT WE FACE. WELL, THIS IS PART

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OF THE ANSWER. OKAY AS CHAIR 

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COMMENT, IF THERE'S NO 

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OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE 

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ADOPTED. HEARING AND SEEING NO 

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OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS 

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ADOPTED. WE'LL NOW MOVE OPEN THE

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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC 

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COMMENT SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS 

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ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR WITHIN THE

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PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE CLERK. 

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HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP 

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TODAY? 

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-- CURRENTLY, WE HAVE SEVEN 

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SIGNED UP. TWO OF THOSE ARE 

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REMOTE 

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-- OKAY. EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE 

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TWO MINUTES AND WE'LL START 

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WITH THE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. 

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CLERK CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE 

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PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS? AND

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I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE 

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-- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 

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WILL BE MODERATED IN THE 

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FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC 

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COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 60 

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MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED

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IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY 

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CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT 

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OF THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS MICS 

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WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END

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THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE 

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CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. THE 

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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW 

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OPEN, WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST 

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SPEAKER ON THE LIST. THE FIRST 

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IN-PERSON SPEAKER IS STEVE 

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-- GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING. 

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-- WE NEED A BETTER SEATTLE, AND

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WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROOM TO 

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MOVE. I'M STILL WAITING FOR A 

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POLICE FORCE THAT IS EFFECTIVE. 

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SINCE COVID, WE HAVE NOT HAD 

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ONE. IN MY NOT SO HUMBLE 

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OPINION, WE NEED TO BRING BACK 

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THE SQUADS THAT DO THINGS LIKE 

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MINERS CAR PROWLS AND GO UP TO 

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RAPE AND OTHER SERIOUS CRIMES, 

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BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING FOLLOW 

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THROUGH, WHICH I FIND VERY, VERY

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DIFFICULT. WE'RE NOT EVEN 

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CATCHING THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. 

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PEOPLE CAN PUT UP SCAMS ON OTHER

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SIGNS, STEAL MONEY. NOW THIS 

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GOES TO AN ACCOUNT WHICH SHOULD 

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BE TRACEABLE, BUT THIS APPEARS 

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TO BE TOO MUCH EFFORT FOR THE 

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CITY OF SEATTLE. YOU KNOW, IF 

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YOU CAN'T GET THE LOW HANGING 

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FRUIT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 

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THE REALLY BIG ONES. I'LL DROP 

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THIS HERE IN THE COMMENTS. I 

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HAVE PULLED MANY, MANY, MANY OF 

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THEM. SO THIS IS NOT A GREAT 

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LOSS. ALSO, I SEE THE TIME THAT 

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POLICE OFFICERS ARE SPENDING. 

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NOW. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY 

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SHOULDN'T PROTECT FIREFIGHTERS 

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AND OTHER PEOPLE DEALING WITH 

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HOMELESS AND TOUGH SITUATIONS, 

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BUT THEY SPEND SO MUCH TIME 

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TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE. THEY'RE 

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NOT REALLY SPENDING TIME 

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ACTUALLY PROTECTING PEOPLE. AND 

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THE SEATTLE POLICE AT THIS POINT

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SEEM TO HAVE AN ATTITUDE LIKE 

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THE OLD NO PROBLEM CHARTS. I 

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DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER REMEMBER

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THOSE BLACK AND WHITE WITH ALL 

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THE ARROWS GOING AROUND. 

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EVERYTHING ENDS UP AT NO 

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PROBLEM. AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE 

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WILL CALL THEM AND ARE ASSAULTED

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ARE SILLY. THEY'RE WASTING 

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THEIR TIME. NOW, IT MAY JUST BE 

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BECAUSE I'M AN OLD WHITE MAN, 

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BUT I DID SEE ONE WHO DID THE 

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SAME THING WITH A BLACK WOMAN 

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-- THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE 

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GANO. ROBINSON. SORRY. COULDN'T

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READ IT. 

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-- DIDN'T PUT IT ON THERE 

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CORRECTLY. HI. MY NAME IS 

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GARRETT. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF

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OF LEAD. I HAVE BEEN IN THIS 

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PROGRAM SINCE PROBABLY THE VERY 

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BEGINNING. I HAVE BEEN PULLED 

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OUT FROM MY WORK JUST BASICALLY 

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TO SPEAK ON MY EXPERIENCE. I 

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GUESS. I HAD STARTED OUT IN 2013

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AND WHERE MY LIFE IS TODAY IS A 

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DRAMATIC EXPERIENCE. SO I 

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YEAH. SO THE, THE RESOURCES THAT

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THEY HAVE ARE WHAT TRANSFORM ME.

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DEF DEFINITELY. AND I'M SORRY. 

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-- NO WORRIES. JUST TELL ME 

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ABOUT LEE JUST DIRECTLY. 

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-- TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT. 

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-- YOU'RE. JUST PRETEND YOU'RE

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HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ME. 

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DON'T WORRY ABOUT BEING HERE IN

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CHAMBERS OR ANYTHING. 

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-- YEAH, SO I, I, MY LIFE HAD 

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DEFINITELY TOOK A TURN. AND SO 

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THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME. MY 

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DAUGHTER HAD REACHED OUT TO MY 

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COUNSELOR AND BASICALLY PULLED 

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ME FROM THE STREETS AND GAVE ME 

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ANOTHER MEANING. IT'S PROBABLY 

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WHAT PULLED ME AWAY FROM 

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EVERYTHING. I DIDN'T THINK THAT

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THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. I WAS 

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WAY MORE PUT TOGETHER, BUT. 

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-- WELL, NO. THANK YOU VERY 

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MUCH. 

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-- FOR SO MUCH. I JUST. 

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-- THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC 

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COMMENT. 

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-- NEXT UP WE HAVE JOHNNY 

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BOUSQUET. 

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-- GOOD MORNING. FIRST, I WANT 

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TO THANK CITY COUNCILMEMBERS FOR

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BEING HERE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL 

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CHAIR. MY NAME IS JOHNNY 

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BOUSQUET. BEFORE PEOPLE CALLED 

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ME JOHNNY BOUSQUET IN 2014, WHAT

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PEOPLE CALLED ME WAS A DRUG 

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ADDICT, A BUM, A THIEF, A LIAR, 

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SOMEBODY THAT WAS RESISTANT TO 

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SERVICES. TODAY, PEOPLE CALL ME 

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SIR. THEY CALL ME JOHNNY 

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BOUSQUET. A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW 

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HOW TO SAY JOHNNY BOUSQUET. AND 

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THAT STARTED WITH I HAVE TO 

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START AT THE BEGINNING. IN 1991,

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MY MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 

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CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM STARTED.

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AND THAT CYCLE PERPETUATED ALL 

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THE WAY UP UNTIL 2014. I WAS 

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FORCED INTO TREATMENT. I WAS I 

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WAS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF 

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COMPLIANCE BASED PROGRAMS THAT 

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DID NOT SUPPORT LONG TERM 

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CHANGE. AND IN 2014, I SOLD A 

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SMALL AMOUNT OF DRUGS TO AN 

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UNDERCOVER OFFICER. INSTEAD OF 

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GOING TO PRISON, I WAS GIVEN AN 

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OPPORTUNITY, AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE

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I WAS NEVER GIVEN BEFORE. THIS 

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OPPORTUNITY CAME WITH BEST IN 

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CLASS CASE MANAGEMENT, WHERE 

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PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T CALL ME 

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NAMES MET ME. WHERE I WAS AT, 

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HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF EMPATHY 

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AS ACCOUNTABILITY BUILT IN. AND 

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THEY ASKED ME, WHAT DID I WANT 

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TO DO? INSTEAD OF TELLING ME 

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WHAT TO DO? THAT CHANGED MY 

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LIFE. IT DIDN'T CHANGE THAT DAY.

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OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, I WENT

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TO TREATMENT FIVE TIMES. EVERY 

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SINGLE TIME I WENT TO TREATMENT,

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I WOULD DO GOOD FOR A LITTLE 

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BIT. SOMETIMES I WOULD GET 

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KICKED OUT OF TREATMENT. BUT 

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WHAT WHAT WAS DIFFERENT IS MY 

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CASE MANAGERS, MY LEAD CASE 

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MANAGERS WERE THERE TO MEET ME 

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AND RALLY THE TROOPS AGAIN. WHAT

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THE HELL WENT WRONG? AND WHAT 

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CAN WE DO DIFFERENT NEXT TIME? 

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THEY ASKED ME, THEY DIDN'T TELL

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ME. THAT CHANGED MY LIFE. AFTER 

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GOING TO TREATMENT 15 TIMES IN 

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MY LIFE AND FAILING MISERABLY IN

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OTHER PROGRAMS, I WAS ABLE TO BE

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ABLE TO GET A JOB, JOIN THE 

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FORMAL ECONOMY, AND TODAY I AM A

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LEAD PROJECT MANAGER, THE LEAD 

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PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE NORTH 

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PRECINCT IN THE SOUTHWEST 

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PRECINCT WITH EIGHT YEARS CLEAN 

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AND RECONNECTED WITH MY SON 

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AFTER ALMOST 15 YEARS. 14 YEARS.

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THIS SATURDAY LEAD WORKS. I AM 

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PROOF 

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-- THANK YOU AND 

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CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT UP. 

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-- NEXT UP WE HAVE LIZ, STEVE, 

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STEVE, STEVE, STEVE. SORRY 

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STEVE. 

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-- HI. I'M NOT A SPEAKER. I WAS

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UP UNTIL 1 A.M. TRYING TO 

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RECOVER OUR FAMILY'S ACCOUNTS 

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FOR SOME SCHOOL. OUR FAMILY WAS 

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HACKED. SERIOUSLY HACKED THROUGH

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GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, SQUARE 

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BUSINESS. ALL THE ACCOUNTS, ALL 

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THE ACCOUNTS. I DON'T KNOW IF 

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YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF 

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THE PROBLEMS OF THE TECH 

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COMPANIES, BUT ESSENTIALLY 

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GOOGLE HAS BECOME LIKE THE FORD 

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PINTO, WHERE IF YOU'RE REAR 

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ENDED, THE CAR JUST EXPLODES. SO

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WE WERE ESSENTIALLY A REAR ENDED

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OR HAD A MINOR ACCIDENT WITH A, 

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A DISGRUNTLED CLIENT THREE YEARS

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AGO. AND HE WAS ABLE TO USE THIS

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TECH COMPANIES AND THEIR PRODUCT

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TO JUST DESTROY OUR FAMILY'S 

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LIFE. IT'S BEEN AWFUL. AND PART

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OF DEALING WITH THIS IS WE'VE 

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DISCOVERED THAT THIS IS PRETTY 

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COMMON. YOU BECOME PART OF THIS 

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CLUB WHERE PEOPLE FIND YOU AND 

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THEY'VE ALSO BEEN HACKED, AND 

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THEY'VE ALSO DEALT WITH 

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IDENTITY THEFT. AND THEY'VE ALSO

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GONE THROUGH THE CIRCLES. AND I 

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HAVE TO SAY, I MEAN, EVERY 

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INTERACTION THAT I'VE HAD WITH 

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SEATTLE POLICE HAS BEEN REALLY 

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GOOD. IT'S THEIR TRAINING IS 

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GREAT. THEY'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL.

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THEY'VE BEEN ORGANIZED, THEY'VE

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BEEN GREAT. I THINK CARE HAS 

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SOME MAYBE SOME ISSUES WITH 

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RECORD KEEPING. THEY'VE THEY'VE

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LOST SOME FILES. THEY'VE 

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THEY'VE LOST SOME FILES. 

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THEY'VE LOST SOME PAPERWORK, 

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BUT NOTHING TOO SERIOUS. DEALING

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WITH THE CITY HAS BEEN GREAT. I 

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JUST THINK THAT THE CITY IS 

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MISSING A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY 

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BECAUSE WHY AREN'T WE REGULATING

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GOOGLE. AND I'M NOT SAYING TAX 

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THEM. WE CAN JUST FIND THEM 

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THEIR USAGE FEES. I WORK FOR THE

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THE NOT WORK FOR. I VOLUNTEER AT

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THE KING COUNTY LAW LIBRARY, AND

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THEY'RE MOSTLY FUNDED BY FILING

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FEES. AND PEOPLE WILL PAY, WE 

402
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WILL PAY TO FILE A REQUEST FOR 

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OUR OWN DATA. IF WE HAD A 

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PRIVACY, JUST A REGULATORY 

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STRUCTURE. AND THAT'S ALL I'M 

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ASKING IS TO PLEASE CONSIDER A 

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REGULATORY STRUCTURE THAT THE 

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CITY CAN USE FOR FUNDING AND TO 

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PROTECT FAMILIES LIKE ME. THANK 

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YOU. 

411
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-- THANK YOU. 

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-- NEXT UP, WE HAVE ASHLEY 

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-- HI. THIS MIGHT NOT WORK. SO 

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IF IT GOES TERRIBLY, LET ME 

415
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KNOW. BUT THIS IS FROM ONE OF 

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OUR LEAD. 

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-- MY NAME IS JULIA, AND I WAS 

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ONE OF THE FIRST CLIENTS LEAD 

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TOOK WITH THEIR FIRST BATCH OF 

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PEOPLE. LEADS GOT ME THROUGH 

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PREGNANCY, HOMELESSNESS, DRUG 

422
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ADDICTION, YEARS OF GOING IN AND

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OUT OF JAIL. THEY HELPED ME IN 

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COURT. THEY GOT ME HOUSING. THEY

425
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WERE THERE FOR ME. WHEN I 

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CHECKED INTO REHAB. ACTUALLY, MY

427
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WORKER WAS ONE OF THE ONLY 

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PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE 

429
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TREATMENT CENTER TO CHECK IF I 

430
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WAS OKAY. THEY HELPED ME WITH MY

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MENTAL HEALTH, MY PHYSICAL, AND 

432
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WERE THERE FOR ME IN TOUGH 

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TIMES. THEY WERE THEY WERE THE 

434
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PEOPLE THAT THAT CHEERED ME ON 

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THE MOST WHEN I GOT SOBER. 

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CURRENTLY, I AM 15 MONTHS CLEAN 

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GOING TO COLLEGE AGAIN. I'M 

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WORKING AND I AM LIVING WITH MY 

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CHILDREN. SOMETHING I DIDN'T 

440
00:16:28,454 --> 00:16:30,456
THINK WAS GOING TO EVER BE 

441
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POSSIBLE. HONESTLY, WHEN I WAS 

442
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IN THE DEPTHS OF MY ADDICTION, 

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IF IT WASN'T FOR MY WORKER AND 

444
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THE PEOPLE AT THE LEAD PROGRAM, 

445
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I DON'T THINK I'D BE WHERE I'M

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AT TODAY FOR THAT. I AM SO 

447
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GRATEFUL. IF I HAD A CHANCE TO 

448
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GIVE EVERYBODY IN LEAD A RAISE, 

449
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I WOULD, BECAUSE THEY'RE PART 

450
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OF MY FAMILY THAT I, IN MY 

451
00:16:49,174 --> 00:16:50,309
OPINION, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME

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THE CHANCE TO SHARE MY TESTIMONY

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WITH YOU GUYS HERE TODAY. 

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-- FOR THE PAST WEEK, ALL I'VE 

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BEEN DOING IS INTERVIEWING OUR 

456
00:16:59,618 --> 00:17:00,252
PREVIOUS GRADUATES WHO HAVE MADE

457
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IT THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, AND 

458
00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,522
SOME OF THEM ARE PLUMBERS NOW. A

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LOT OF THEM ARE WITH THEIR KIDS.

460
00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:07,893
A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING BACK TO 

461
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SCHOOL. SO I JUST CONTINUE TO 

462
00:17:09,828 --> 00:17:10,529
APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT

463
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FOR THIS PROGRAM. I CAN SEE IT 

464
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MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN 

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00:17:12,831 --> 00:17:18,037
EVERYONE'S LIVES AND GARRETT IS

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SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN ONE OF THOSE

467
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PEOPLE WHO'S JUST VERY 

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IMPRESSIVE AND MANAGING 

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00:17:20,739 --> 00:17:23,542
BUILDINGS NOW AROUND TOWN. I 

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IT'S JUST A IT'S BEEN A 

471
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BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE TALKING TO 

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ALL OF THEM. THANK YOU GUYS. 

473
00:17:33,252 --> 00:17:33,585
-- THANK YOU. 

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-- I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER 15 

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00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:36,422
THAT HAVE SIGNED UP OUTSIDE. I 

476
00:17:36,422 --> 00:17:37,122
DON'T HAVE THE PAGE RIGHT NOW. 

477
00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:38,257
THEY'RE STILL SIGNING UP. I'VE

478
00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:41,393
GOT MORE ONLINE. YOU WANT TO 

479
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PIVOT TO THOSE. 

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00:17:42,361 --> 00:17:46,899
-- YES. DO THE FOUR ONLINE. 

481
00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:52,938
OKAY. 

482
00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:55,340
-- THE FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS 

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CHRIS PLOTNICK. PLEASE PRESS 

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STAR SIX WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU 

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HEAR THE PROMPT, YOU HAVE BEEN 

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UNMUTED. 

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CHRIS, IF YOU CAN PRESS STAR 

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SIX. 

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ALL RIGHT. WE'LL COME BACK TO 

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YOU IF YOU'RE ABLE TO AT THE 

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END NEXT UP, WE'VE GOT DAVID 

492
00:18:36,515 --> 00:18:38,650
HAYNES. DAVID, PLEASE PRESS STAR

493
00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:46,391
SIX. 

494
00:18:46,625 --> 00:18:47,693
-- HI. DAVID. HOW WAS CITY 

495
00:18:47,693 --> 00:18:48,494
COUNCIL EVER GOING TO GET IT 

496
00:18:48,494 --> 00:18:49,761
RIGHT IN PUBLIC SAFETY WHEN THEY

497
00:18:49,761 --> 00:18:52,030
KEEP DOUBLING DOWN AND APPROVING

498
00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:54,833
AND ATTEMPTING TO COSMETICALLY 

499
00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:55,400
CODIFY LEGISLATION THAT WAS 

500
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,034
FLAWED FROM THE BEGINNING? AND 

501
00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:58,270
IT'S PHILOSOPHY THAT THOUGHT 

502
00:18:58,270 --> 00:18:59,738
THAT IT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE 

503
00:18:59,738 --> 00:19:01,740
TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR 

504
00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:04,576
PIMPS AND PUSHERS TO FIND THEIR 

505
00:19:04,576 --> 00:19:07,613
CUSTOMERS, WHILE EXACERBATING 

506
00:19:07,613 --> 00:19:09,615
PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S IT'S 

507
00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:10,182
DISINGENUOUS TO CLAIM THAT 

508
00:19:10,182 --> 00:19:10,883
YOU'RE DIALING DOWN THE AMOUNT 

509
00:19:10,883 --> 00:19:12,951
OF PEOPLE ARRESTED BY PURPOSELY 

510
00:19:12,951 --> 00:19:14,453
RUNNING INTERFERENCE FOR THEM. 

511
00:19:14,453 --> 00:19:16,989
AND THEN, AFTER ALL THE 911 

512
00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:18,257
CALLS THAT THEY CREATED AND 

513
00:19:18,257 --> 00:19:20,759
CAUSED, THEY DON'T GET ANY 

514
00:19:20,759 --> 00:19:22,461
LEGITIMATE REQUIREMENT OF 

515
00:19:22,461 --> 00:19:23,195
FOCUSING ON THEIR ADDICTION. 

516
00:19:23,195 --> 00:19:25,063
THEY JUST GET REWARDED WITH MORE

517
00:19:25,063 --> 00:19:26,665
AND MORE HOUSING FIRST AS THEY 

518
00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:29,334
TRASH EVERYTHING THAT THEY LIVE 

519
00:19:29,334 --> 00:19:31,403
IN AND DENY INNOCENT HOMELESS 

520
00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:33,672
ACCESS TO CAPACITY. REMEMBER 

521
00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:34,640
WHEN TAMMY MORALES QUIT THE CITY

522
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,408
COUNCIL BECAUSE SHE HAD MENTAL 

523
00:19:36,408 --> 00:19:37,609
PROBLEMS BEFORE SHE LEFT? SHE 

524
00:19:37,609 --> 00:19:39,878
TOOK HER OWN LIVED EXPERIENCE 

525
00:19:39,878 --> 00:19:40,946
LENS AND DUMPED IT ON THE REST 

526
00:19:40,946 --> 00:19:43,615
OF THE COMMUNITY BY WEAPONIZING 

527
00:19:43,615 --> 00:19:46,118
THE RACIST RACIAL EQUITY 

528
00:19:46,118 --> 00:19:47,419
TOOLKIT, WHERE YOU'RE REQUIRED 

529
00:19:47,419 --> 00:19:49,388
TO JUDGE PEOPLE'S SKIN COLOR 

530
00:19:49,388 --> 00:19:50,889
AND THEIR INTERACTION, 

531
00:19:50,889 --> 00:19:51,356
INTERACTIONS WITH LAW 

532
00:19:51,356 --> 00:19:54,159
ENFORCEMENT AND CLAIM THAT. AND 

533
00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:55,494
IF THERE'S A DISPROPORTIONATE 

534
00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:56,695
AMOUNT OF, LET'S SAY, BLACK 

535
00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:58,997
DRUG PUSHERS WHO ARE COMMITTING 

536
00:19:58,997 --> 00:20:00,666
CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY SOMEHOW,

537
00:20:00,666 --> 00:20:03,068
BECAUSE THAT'S WRONG. THEY 

538
00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:03,669
CLAIM YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO 

539
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:05,070
JUDGE THOSE PEOPLE OR THROW THEM

540
00:20:05,070 --> 00:20:06,972
IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD A 

541
00:20:06,972 --> 00:20:09,741
DIFFERENT HISTORICAL 

542
00:20:09,741 --> 00:20:10,242
PERSPECTIVE. AND PEOPLE 

543
00:20:10,242 --> 00:20:11,543
SYMPATHIZING WITH THE DEVIL WHO 

544
00:20:11,543 --> 00:20:14,346
ARE DESTROYING PEOPLE'S LIVES 

545
00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:15,948
DAILY AND BASING YOUR 

546
00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:19,084
ASSESSMENTS ON SKIN COLOR 

547
00:20:19,084 --> 00:20:22,154
BECAUSE OF RACIST PERVERTS IN 

548
00:20:22,154 --> 00:20:22,788
OUR GOVERNMENT HAVE UNDERMINED 

549
00:20:22,788 --> 00:20:23,689
THE INTEGRITY OF THE LENS THAT 

550
00:20:23,689 --> 00:20:25,257
YOU LOOK TO WHEN YOU JUDGE 

551
00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:26,925
PEOPLE ON THE MERITS AND THE 

552
00:20:26,925 --> 00:20:31,597
PROPER POLICIES. BUT INSTEAD, WE

553
00:20:31,597 --> 00:20:34,499
HAVE A IGNOBLE AGENDA BY CENTRAL

554
00:20:34,499 --> 00:20:36,001
STAFF WHO, LET'S SEE, CENTRAL 

555
00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:36,969
STAFF CLAIMS IT'S ALL ABOUT THE

556
00:20:36,969 --> 00:20:39,538
RACIAL EQUITY TOOLKIT, BUT GET. 

557
00:20:39,538 --> 00:20:42,507
THEY'RE THEY'RE EXPERTS AT 

558
00:20:42,507 --> 00:20:43,609
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, URBAN 

559
00:20:43,609 --> 00:20:45,077
PLANNING. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO 

560
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,878
DO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY OTHER THAN

561
00:20:46,878 --> 00:20:48,113
MAKING SURE THAT THE COPS HAVE 

562
00:20:48,113 --> 00:20:49,748
OVERTIME. 

563
00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:53,118
-- THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE 

564
00:20:53,118 --> 00:20:58,423
STEVEN GASTON. STEVEN, PLEASE 

565
00:20:58,423 --> 00:21:06,331
PRESS STAR SIX. 

566
00:21:06,565 --> 00:21:11,737
-- HI, MY NAME IS STEVEN GASTON.

567
00:21:11,737 --> 00:21:14,339
I'VE BEEN A LEAD CLIENT SINCE 

568
00:21:14,339 --> 00:21:16,742
OCTOBER 2020. AT THE TIME, I WAS

569
00:21:16,742 --> 00:21:18,410
HOMELESS USING FENTANYL AND METH

570
00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:19,044
AND COMMITTING CRIMES TO SURVIVE

571
00:21:19,044 --> 00:21:21,013
AND SUPPORT MY HABIT. I DON'T 

572
00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:22,914
REMEMBER MUCH OF THAT TIME, BUT 

573
00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:23,582
I REMEMBER COMING TO THEIR DROP 

574
00:21:23,582 --> 00:21:26,051
IN AND GETTING COFFEE, SNACKS, A

575
00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:28,020
TENT, SLEEPING BAG, AND CLOTHING

576
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,888
TO SURVIVE. AFTER GOING TO JAIL 

577
00:21:29,888 --> 00:21:31,023
IN 2022, I ENTERED TREATMENT. 

578
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,892
WHEN I GOT OUT, MY CASE MANAGER,

579
00:21:33,892 --> 00:21:35,193
DANIELLE CHECKED IN WITH ME 

580
00:21:35,193 --> 00:21:36,695
EVERY WEEK ABOUT MY GOALS AND 

581
00:21:36,695 --> 00:21:38,864
HAD A TON OF. I HAD A TON OF 

582
00:21:38,864 --> 00:21:40,532
WARRANTS ALL OVER WASHINGTON. 

583
00:21:40,532 --> 00:21:42,200
SHE HELPED ME NAVIGATE THE COURT

584
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:42,834
DATES, STRATEGICALLY RECONNECT 

585
00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:45,470
WITH MY FAMILY BUDGET, AND 

586
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:46,104
BALANCE ALL THIS WHILE WORKING 

587
00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:48,507
FULL TIME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 

588
00:21:48,507 --> 00:21:49,808
MANY YEARS. LEAD ALSO HELPED ME 

589
00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:52,611
PAY FOR MANY THINGS, INCLUDING 

590
00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:53,645
MY CDL SOBER LIVING AND MOVING 

591
00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:55,480
TO MY FIRST INDEPENDENT HOME IN 

592
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,183
THE WINTER OF 2024. DANIELLE 

593
00:21:58,183 --> 00:21:59,484
REFERRED ME TO THE LEAD LEGAL 

594
00:21:59,484 --> 00:22:01,319
TEAM OF ATTORNEYS WHO COULD HELP

595
00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,388
ME WITH MORE COMPLICATED ISSUES 

596
00:22:03,388 --> 00:22:04,756
I WAS FACING. THEY SUPPORTED MY 

597
00:22:04,756 --> 00:22:07,059
GOAL OF BECOMING A PARENT TO MY 

598
00:22:07,059 --> 00:22:10,529
EIGHT YEAR OLD SON. THEY HELPED 

599
00:22:10,529 --> 00:22:11,129
ME NAVIGATE THE CONFUSING AND 

600
00:22:11,129 --> 00:22:12,064
COMPLICATED LEGAL PROCESS. AND 

601
00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:12,798
TOMORROW THEY'LL STAND WITH ME 

602
00:22:12,798 --> 00:22:15,233
IN COURT AS I SEEK FULL CUSTODY 

603
00:22:15,233 --> 00:22:16,301
WITHOUT LEAD, READING, MY LIFE 

604
00:22:16,301 --> 00:22:18,704
WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH HARDER. 

605
00:22:18,704 --> 00:22:19,304
THEY GAVE ME THE SUPPORT AND 

606
00:22:19,304 --> 00:22:20,772
GUIDANCE I NEEDED TO MOVE 

607
00:22:20,772 --> 00:22:25,977
FORWARD. THANK YOU. 

608
00:22:25,977 --> 00:22:28,480
-- THANK YOU. AND THEN WE'RE 

609
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,084
GOING TO REVISIT CHRIS PLOTNICK 

610
00:22:32,084 --> 00:22:34,353
CHRIS, IF YOU CAN PRESS STAR 

611
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:37,723
SIX. 

612
00:22:37,723 --> 00:22:43,995
-- SORRY, GUYS. I HAVE THANK 

613
00:22:43,995 --> 00:22:46,531
YOU. OKAY, CHRIS, ARE YOU READY?

614
00:22:46,531 --> 00:22:49,568
OKAY, GO. 

615
00:22:49,568 --> 00:22:51,837
-- MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER 

616
00:22:51,837 --> 00:22:52,904
PLOTNICK. I'VE BEEN IN THE LEAD

617
00:22:52,904 --> 00:22:55,273
PROGRAM FOR WELL OVER TEN YEARS.

618
00:22:55,273 --> 00:22:57,442
JUST LIKE A LOT OF THESE OTHER 

619
00:22:57,442 --> 00:22:58,510
CLIENTS. I COMMITTED A LOT OF 

620
00:22:58,510 --> 00:23:00,078
CRIME AND DID A LOT OF DRUGS FOR

621
00:23:00,078 --> 00:23:02,614
A LONG TIME. THE BIGGEST THING 

622
00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:06,184
LEAD DID FOR ME WAS THEY WERE 

623
00:23:06,184 --> 00:23:07,352
THERE TO GIVE ME THE TIME I 

624
00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:09,921
NEEDED TO WORK ON MYSELF FOR MY 

625
00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:12,991
RECOVERY. THEY LET ME DO IT AT 

626
00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:14,760
MY PACE. THE HOUSING THAT THEY 

627
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,531
GAVE ME LET ME STOP EVERYTHING 

628
00:23:19,531 --> 00:23:20,165
AROUND ME AND FOCUS ON MY 

629
00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:21,533
RECOVERY, WHICH IS VERY, VERY 

630
00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:23,201
HARD TO DO. AND IT TAKES A VERY,

631
00:23:23,201 --> 00:23:27,906
VERY LONG TIME. I WAS UP ON 

632
00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:28,573
180MG OF METHADONE. IT'S TAKEN 

633
00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:29,641
OVER FIVE YEARS TO GET DOWN TO 

634
00:23:29,641 --> 00:23:33,211
WHAT I AM TODAY, WHICH IS UNDER 

635
00:23:33,211 --> 00:23:35,847
19MG. IT'S A VERY SLOW PROCESS 

636
00:23:35,847 --> 00:23:36,648
AND IT TAKES TIME. AND TIME IS 

637
00:23:36,648 --> 00:23:38,150
WHAT YOU NEED TO RECOVER. TODAY 

638
00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,352
I'M FULLY RECOVERED. I HAVE A 

639
00:23:40,352 --> 00:23:42,354
FULL TIME JOB, MY OWN APARTMENT,

640
00:23:42,354 --> 00:23:44,389
A CAT, A CAR. I PAY FOR MY 

641
00:23:44,389 --> 00:23:47,092
INSURANCE. LIFE IS IS NORMAL AND

642
00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:50,061
I DO HAVE THE LEAD PROGRAM AND 

643
00:23:50,061 --> 00:23:57,702
COUNSELORS TO THANK FOR THAT 

644
00:23:57,702 --> 00:23:58,036
-- THANK YOU. 

645
00:23:58,036 --> 00:24:00,872
-- ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE 14 MORE IN

646
00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:05,310
PERSON. SAM WOLF NEXT UP WOULD 

647
00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:09,281
BE LISA BAKER AFTER HIM 

648
00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:09,681
-- MORNING, SAM. 

649
00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:12,284
-- GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. 

650
00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:14,319
-- MY NAME IS SAM WOLF AND I 

651
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:15,453
WORK FOR PDA AS A SEATTLE KING 

652
00:24:15,453 --> 00:24:17,289
COUNTY POLICY DIRECTOR. I JUST 

653
00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:19,524
WANTED TO SAY MAKING A PLAN FOR 

654
00:24:19,524 --> 00:24:20,659
A PLACE OR A NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN 

655
00:24:20,659 --> 00:24:22,127
ASSIGNMENT THAT'S VERY DISTINCT

656
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,628
FROM MAKING PLANS FOR 

657
00:24:23,628 --> 00:24:25,630
INDIVIDUALS. THIS IS WHY LEAD 

658
00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:27,165
COMPLEMENTS THE EFFORTS OF LAW 

659
00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:27,799
ENFORCEMENT AND AMBASSADOR TEAMS

660
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:29,501
AND OTHER ENTITIES AROUND THE 

661
00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:32,370
CITY AS THEY WORK TO CARE FOR 

662
00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:33,004
PLACES AND NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL OF

663
00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:34,039
WHOM, IN THE COURSE OF DOING 

664
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,308
THAT COMPLEX JOB, ARE GOING TO 

665
00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:38,810
RUN INTO INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED 

666
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:40,912
SOME COMBINATION OF SHELTER, 

667
00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:43,515
HOUSING, FINANCIAL SUPPORT, 

668
00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:44,082
RECOVERY, OTHER BEHAVIORAL 

669
00:24:44,082 --> 00:24:46,885
HEALTH SUPPORTS, AND ABOVE ALL, 

670
00:24:46,885 --> 00:24:48,153
A PLAN. YOU'VE HEARD THE AGE 

671
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:51,056
OLD MANTRA, NO, THERE'S NO ONE 

672
00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:54,159
SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION. IF 

673
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:55,594
EVERYONE'S ISSUES COULD BE 

674
00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:57,395
SOLVED BY SIMPLE PLANS OR 

675
00:24:57,395 --> 00:24:57,896
SINGULAR CONNECTIONS TO 

676
00:24:57,896 --> 00:24:59,197
RESOURCES, JUST SENDING SOMEBODY

677
00:24:59,197 --> 00:25:00,532
TO A PLACE, OUR CITY'S ISSUES 

678
00:25:00,532 --> 00:25:01,967
WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT THAN 

679
00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:05,804
THEY DO TODAY, LEAD CONTENDS 

680
00:25:05,804 --> 00:25:07,706
WITH THIS REALITY BY MAKING 

681
00:25:07,706 --> 00:25:08,240
INDIVIDUALIZED PLANS FOR 

682
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,609
PARTICIPANTS THAT FOCUS ON 

683
00:25:10,609 --> 00:25:11,243
SUSTAINABLE RECOVERY STRATEGIES 

684
00:25:11,243 --> 00:25:12,577
AND WORK TOWARDS THE ULTIMATE 

685
00:25:12,577 --> 00:25:14,713
GOALS OF STABILITY AND BEHAVIOR 

686
00:25:14,713 --> 00:25:17,282
CHANGE. SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM 

687
00:25:17,282 --> 00:25:20,986
RECOVERY DOES NOT OFTEN COINCIDE

688
00:25:20,986 --> 00:25:22,320
WITH OVERNIGHT CHANGE, BUT OUR 

689
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,355
DATA SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. JUST A 

690
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:24,556
MONTH OR TWO AGO, WE SAT HERE 

691
00:25:24,556 --> 00:25:27,225
AND GAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT 

692
00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:29,361
LEAD OUTCOMES, WHICH MIRROR THE 

693
00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:29,995
MANY EVALUATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN 

694
00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,696
DONE ON THIS PROGRAM OVER THE 

695
00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:33,465
YEARS. LEAD IS THE MOST 

696
00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:35,233
RIGOROUSLY EVALUATED DIVERSION 

697
00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:36,101
FRAMEWORK IN OUR REGION, AND 

698
00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:38,003
WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TODAY ARE 

699
00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:38,970
FIRSTHAND ACCOUNTS OF HOW THIS 

700
00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:41,439
HAS WORKED FOR INDIVIDUALS ON A 

701
00:25:41,439 --> 00:25:44,142
HUMAN SCALE. AS SEATTLE 

702
00:25:44,142 --> 00:25:45,443
CONTINUES TO CHANGE, THE OUTLOOK

703
00:25:45,443 --> 00:25:46,678
FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE 

704
00:25:46,678 --> 00:25:48,413
CITY, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN 

705
00:25:48,413 --> 00:25:49,714
EVER THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGY TO 

706
00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:51,750
CHANGE THE OUTLOOKS FOR THE 

707
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:52,217
INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE 

708
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:53,818
NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU TO 

709
00:25:53,818 --> 00:25:55,754
COUNCIL FOR PUTTING THESE PIECES

710
00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:57,155
TOGETHER AND CONTINUING TO BUILD

711
00:25:57,155 --> 00:25:59,891
A SYSTEM THAT WILL WORK FOR ALL.

712
00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:02,894
-- THANK YOU. 

713
00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:04,162
-- NEXT UP, LISA BAKER, TO BE 

714
00:26:04,162 --> 00:26:11,703
FOLLOWED BY ERNEST BLAKENEY. 

715
00:26:11,703 --> 00:26:12,504
-- HI., 

716
00:26:12,504 --> 00:26:12,971
-- ALL. 

717
00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:13,638
-- CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. HI. 

718
00:26:13,638 --> 00:26:14,873
I'M GOING TO BE HERE ON BEHALF 

719
00:26:14,873 --> 00:26:16,174
OF LISA BAKER. I'M HER CASE 

720
00:26:16,174 --> 00:26:17,275
MANAGER, MORNINGSTAR. I'M GOING

721
00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:18,109
TO GO AHEAD AND READ OFF FOR 

722
00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:20,779
HER. SHE'S A LITTLE NERVOUS 

723
00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:22,881
TODAY. LISA IS A BIPOC WOMAN IN 

724
00:26:22,881 --> 00:26:24,916
LONG TERM RECOVERY. SHE HAS 

725
00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:25,817
ALMOST 100 DAYS CLEAN AND SOBER,

726
00:26:25,817 --> 00:26:26,785
WHICH IS THE LONGEST THAT SHE'S

727
00:26:26,785 --> 00:26:28,420
HAD IN OVER TEN YEARS. SHE HAS 

728
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,722
COMPLETED THE 28 DAY INPATIENT 

729
00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:32,123
TREATMENT AND IS NOW IN 

730
00:26:32,123 --> 00:26:34,426
INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT TREATMENT 

731
00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:36,261
PROGRAM THROUGH LAKESIDE, MILAN,

732
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:37,596
HER BIGGEST SUPPORTER HAS BEEN 

733
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,664
ME, HER CASE MANAGER AT REACH, 

734
00:26:39,664 --> 00:26:40,932
AND ALSO HAS HAD EVERYONE AT THE

735
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,267
JUBILEE WOMEN'S CENTER WHO HAS 

736
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,702
ALSO BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND 

737
00:26:43,702 --> 00:26:45,370
SUPPORTIVE THROUGH THIS JOURNEY.

738
00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:46,438
RECOVERY CAFE HAS ALSO BEEN A 

739
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:47,839
SAFE AND HELPFUL SOBER SUPPORT 

740
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,909
FOR HER IN HER TIMES OF NEED. 

741
00:26:50,909 --> 00:26:53,511
LISA ALSO ATTENDS 12 STEP 

742
00:26:53,511 --> 00:26:55,847
MEETINGS EVERY SEVERAL TIMES A 

743
00:26:55,847 --> 00:26:58,149
WEEK. LISA HAS HAD A TREMENDOUS 

744
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:59,751
SOBER SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT SHE 

745
00:26:59,751 --> 00:27:02,087
HAS NEVER HAD BEFORE. PATHWAYS 

746
00:27:02,087 --> 00:27:04,656
HAS ALSO BEEN A HUGE HELP. 

747
00:27:04,656 --> 00:27:05,156
PATHWAYS IS WHERE LISA 

748
00:27:05,156 --> 00:27:07,425
RECOVERED, RECEIVES HER VIVITROL

749
00:27:07,425 --> 00:27:09,627
INJECTIONS, WHICH HAS HAD A HUGE

750
00:27:09,627 --> 00:27:10,495
IMPACT ON HER CRAVINGS. WE'VE 

751
00:27:10,495 --> 00:27:11,663
BEEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER COMING 

752
00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:13,131
FROM LISA, BUT. 

753
00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:17,902
-- THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE 

754
00:27:17,902 --> 00:27:22,741
ERNEST BLAKELY TO BE FOLLOWED BY

755
00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:26,644
AARON JOHNSON. 

756
00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:27,712
-- OKAY. HI, MY NAME IS ERNEST 

757
00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:30,115
BLAKELY. I'M A MEMBER OF THE 

758
00:27:30,115 --> 00:27:31,282
LEAD PROGRAM. BASICALLY, I'VE 

759
00:27:31,282 --> 00:27:34,019
BEEN AN ADDICT SINCE THE AGE OF 

760
00:27:34,019 --> 00:27:35,286
16, UP IN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF 

761
00:27:35,286 --> 00:27:37,288
YEARS AGO. I WAS AT THE LOWEST 

762
00:27:37,288 --> 00:27:38,223
POINT IN MY LIFE, AND I JUST 

763
00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:39,391
DIDN'T THINK I COULD EVER GET 

764
00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:42,127
RIGHT. BUT I RAN INTO THE LEE 

765
00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:45,363
PROGRAM, AND FROM THEN ON, I HAD

766
00:27:45,363 --> 00:27:47,098
TWO AND A HALF YEARS SOBER. I'M

767
00:27:47,098 --> 00:27:48,800
THEY'VE HELPED ME GET MY INCOME

768
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,567
STRAIGHT. THEY'VE HELPED ME GET

769
00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:52,237
A PLACE TO STAY, A STABLE PLACE 

770
00:27:52,237 --> 00:27:54,205
TO STAY. THEY HAVE BEEN JUST A 

771
00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:55,940
FORCE IN MY LIFE THAT I'M VERY 

772
00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:58,910
THANKFUL FOR. YOU KNOW, I'M ABLE

773
00:27:58,910 --> 00:28:00,779
TO BE A FATHER TO MY KIDS NOW. 

774
00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:02,180
YOU KNOW, I'M ABLE TO. I'VE 

775
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:05,216
GAINED TRUST BACK IN MY FAMILY. 

776
00:28:05,216 --> 00:28:06,317
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST AT A GOOD 

777
00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:07,752
PLACE IN MY LIFE TODAY. THIS IS 

778
00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:09,888
THE LONGEST I'VE HAD SOBER IN 

779
00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:10,955
MY WHOLE LIFE. YOU KNOW, I'VE 

780
00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:13,158
BEEN IN AND OUT OF INSTITUTIONS 

781
00:28:13,158 --> 00:28:15,293
ON THE STREET, LIVING IN A TENT.

782
00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:16,327
YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER HAD A PLACE

783
00:28:16,327 --> 00:28:20,231
OF MY OWN UP UNTIL NOW. SO I'M 

784
00:28:20,231 --> 00:28:21,032
VERY THANKFUL FOR THE PROGRAM 

785
00:28:21,032 --> 00:28:21,933
AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR MY 

786
00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:28,306
LIFE 

787
00:28:28,306 --> 00:28:28,673
-- THANK YOU. 

788
00:28:28,673 --> 00:28:29,574
-- NEXT UP, WE HAVE AARON 

789
00:28:29,574 --> 00:28:31,443
JOHNSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY 

790
00:28:31,443 --> 00:28:37,782
DARNELL WILLIAMS 

791
00:28:37,782 --> 00:28:39,951
-- HELLO, MY NAME IS AARON 

792
00:28:39,951 --> 00:28:43,655
JOHNSON. I'M RUNNING TO A 

793
00:28:43,655 --> 00:28:44,789
PROGRAM THROUGH AND I'M TRYING 

794
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:45,457
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I WAS GOING 

795
00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:50,261
TO DO IN MY LIFE AND MY MAJOR 

796
00:28:50,261 --> 00:28:50,762
CONCERN WAS GETTING MY 

797
00:28:50,762 --> 00:28:51,863
RELATIONSHIP BACK WITH MY KIDS 

798
00:28:51,863 --> 00:28:54,599
HEALTHY. AND SO THAT'S REALLY 

799
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:56,134
WHAT DREW ME TOWARDS LEE. 

800
00:28:56,134 --> 00:28:58,369
ANYTIME I CALLED HIM FOR HELP OR

801
00:28:58,369 --> 00:28:59,938
NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND OR FIGURE 

802
00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:00,572
OUT WHATEVER WAS GOING ON IN MY 

803
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,040
LIFE AT THAT MOMENT, I COULD 

804
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,710
CALL MY CASE MANAGER AND THEY 

805
00:29:05,710 --> 00:29:06,711
WOULD COME TO ME WITH SOME TYPE 

806
00:29:06,711 --> 00:29:08,313
OF ANSWER. NOT THEY NEVER LEFT 

807
00:29:08,313 --> 00:29:11,616
ME BY HANGING, IGNORED ME, OR 

808
00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:12,684
LIKE JUST MISS ME OR FORWARDED 

809
00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:16,087
ME OR WHATEVER THE PHONE. 

810
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:17,889
ESPECIALLY MY LAST CASEWORKER 

811
00:29:17,889 --> 00:29:20,024
I'M HAVING. HE'S BEEN LIKE MY 

812
00:29:20,024 --> 00:29:21,659
REAL DEAL, LIKE GUARDIAN ANGEL, 

813
00:29:21,659 --> 00:29:23,528
LIKE MY PLACE. I HAVE NOW. I'VE

814
00:29:23,528 --> 00:29:27,632
BEEN THERE FOR OVER A YEAR. MISS

815
00:29:27,632 --> 00:29:28,900
MY HOME PLACE, A STABLE, CLEAN. 

816
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:30,702
I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 

817
00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:31,436
BEING ON THE STREET OR PEOPLE 

818
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:32,904
STEALING FROM ME. NONE OF THAT. 

819
00:29:32,904 --> 00:29:35,240
AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY 

820
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,074
IMPORTANT TO ME TO GET SITUATED 

821
00:29:36,074 --> 00:29:38,176
SO I COULD SEE MY KIDS AND HAVE 

822
00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:39,444
A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

823
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,613
SO THAT'S WHAT IT MEAN TO ME. 

824
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:45,316
THANK YOU. 

825
00:29:45,316 --> 00:29:45,984
-- THANK YOU. 

826
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:48,586
-- [APPLAUSE] 

827
00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:49,921
-- DARNELL WILLIAMS, TO BE 

828
00:29:49,921 --> 00:29:57,328
FOLLOWED BY SANDRA SAPORITO. 

829
00:29:57,328 --> 00:29:59,030
-- GOOD MORNING COUNSEL. HI, 

830
00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:00,832
I'M DARYL WILLIAMS. I'M A 

831
00:30:00,832 --> 00:30:03,701
CLIENT OF THE LEAD PROGRAM. 

832
00:30:03,701 --> 00:30:04,669
BEFORE COMING TO THIS PROGRAM, I

833
00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:08,306
WAS HOMELESS ON DRUGS AND LOW 

834
00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:13,711
SELF-ESTEEM. I HAD NO I ACTUALLY

835
00:30:13,711 --> 00:30:15,580
HAD NO HELP SINCE I BECAME A 

836
00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:16,447
CLIENT. I HAVE HOUSING, I'VE 

837
00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:18,883
BEEN THROUGH TREATMENT. I'M A 

838
00:30:18,883 --> 00:30:21,953
FULL TIME COLLEGE STUDENT, AND I

839
00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:24,389
NOW HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS OF 

840
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:26,291
MYSELF. MY CASE MANAGER IS A 

841
00:30:26,291 --> 00:30:27,959
HUGE IMPACT IN MY LIFE. SHE HAS 

842
00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:30,161
SHOWN ME THAT IT'S OKAY TO LIVE

843
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:33,164
AGAIN AND LOVE AND TO LOVE 

844
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,433
MYSELF. I BELIEVE THIS PROGRAM 

845
00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:39,304
SAVED LIVES AND HELP PEOPLE LIKE

846
00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,940
MYSELF BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND

847
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:47,212
HAVE HOPE AND BECOME AND BECOME 

848
00:30:47,212 --> 00:30:49,881
A POSITIVE PRODUCT IN SOCIETY 

849
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:50,748
TODAY. AND THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A

850
00:30:50,748 --> 00:30:54,986
POSITIVE OUTLOOK IN LIFE AND 

851
00:30:54,986 --> 00:30:57,822
THEMSELVES. YEAH I THINK THAT'S

852
00:30:57,822 --> 00:31:02,427
ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. 

853
00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:10,335
-- THANK YOU. 

854
00:31:10,568 --> 00:31:12,237
-- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

855
00:31:12,237 --> 00:31:12,637
-- GOOD MORNING. 

856
00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:14,205
-- MY NAME IS SANDRA SAPORITO 

857
00:31:14,205 --> 00:31:15,540
AND I'M HERE TO ASK FOR 

858
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:17,575
CONTINUED FUNDING FOR THE LEAD 

859
00:31:17,575 --> 00:31:20,245
PROGRAM BEFORE THE LEAD PROGRAM,

860
00:31:20,245 --> 00:31:22,080
I WAS FACING A MASSIVE MENTAL 

861
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,515
HEALTH BREAKDOWN, LEGAL ISSUES, 

862
00:31:24,515 --> 00:31:26,184
DRUG ADDICTION, AND LIVING IN A 

863
00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:29,287
VERY UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT LEAD 

864
00:31:29,287 --> 00:31:30,521
GAVE ME MORE THAN A RESOURCE. IT

865
00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:34,893
GAVE ME HOPE. MY CASE MANAGER 

866
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,261
WAS ALWAYS THERE WHEN I NEEDED 

867
00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:39,030
SUPPORT. HE LISTENED WITHOUT 

868
00:31:39,030 --> 00:31:41,099
JUDGMENT. HE OFFERED GUIDANCE 

869
00:31:41,099 --> 00:31:43,067
AND GENUINELY CARED ABOUT MY 

870
00:31:43,067 --> 00:31:44,302
SUCCESS. BECAUSE OF LEAD, I WAS 

871
00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:47,338
ABLE TO SUSTAIN STABLE HOUSING. 

872
00:31:47,338 --> 00:31:50,008
I HAVE SINCE BEEN REUNITED WITH 

873
00:31:50,008 --> 00:31:51,309
MY CHILDREN. I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED

874
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:52,911
FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF WITH 

875
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:54,612
A VERY LARGE GAP IN MY 

876
00:31:54,612 --> 00:31:56,981
EMPLOYMENT. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO 

877
00:31:56,981 --> 00:31:59,183
FOCUS ON MY MENTAL HEALTH. I'VE

878
00:31:59,183 --> 00:32:03,121
BEEN CLEAN AND SOBER SINCE JULY 

879
00:32:03,121 --> 00:32:05,390
1st OF 2024. PEOPLE LIKE EDWARD 

880
00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:06,424
JACKSON DON'T JUST DO THEIR 

881
00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:10,461
JOB. THEY ANSWER A CALLING. HE 

882
00:32:10,461 --> 00:32:13,131
UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO 

883
00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:13,765
NAVIGATE DIFFICULT SYSTEMS WITH 

884
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:14,699
COMPASSION BECAUSE OF HIS 

885
00:32:14,699 --> 00:32:20,238
SUPPORT, I FELT SEEN, GUIDED AND

886
00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:21,472
EMPOWERED. I ASK FOR CONTINUED 

887
00:32:21,472 --> 00:32:23,041
FUNDING TO HELP PEOPLE SUCCEED 

888
00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:25,009
JUST LIKE I HAVE. THANK YOU. 

889
00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:32,016
-- THANK YOU. 

890
00:32:32,016 --> 00:32:32,717
-- AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T FULLY

891
00:32:32,717 --> 00:32:34,452
READ THIS NEXT ONE, BUT I THINK 

892
00:32:34,452 --> 00:32:42,627
IT'S ELLIOTT RAMOS I'LL TAKE A

893
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:47,465
TRY AT CHRISTOPHER. 

894
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:47,765
-- ELLIOTT. 

895
00:32:47,765 --> 00:32:49,033
-- ELLIOTT. ELLIOTT. ANY. 

896
00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:51,169
ELLIOTT. OKAY. I'M SORRY I 

897
00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:52,136
COULDN'T READ IT. IT'S IT WAS 

898
00:32:52,136 --> 00:32:56,074
IN CURSIVE. IF YOU WROTE IN 

899
00:32:56,074 --> 00:32:56,341
CURSIVE. 

900
00:32:56,341 --> 00:32:57,475
-- THE CURSE OF THE YOUNGER 

901
00:32:57,475 --> 00:33:02,313
GENERATION IT'S LIKE ELLIOTT 

902
00:33:02,313 --> 00:33:05,516
DOMAN, I THINK IS WHAT IT SAYS. 

903
00:33:05,516 --> 00:33:10,188
BUT BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG. 

904
00:33:10,188 --> 00:33:16,027
-- [LAUGHTER] 

905
00:33:16,027 --> 00:33:16,361
-- SOMEBODY. 

906
00:33:16,361 --> 00:33:17,261
-- SEE, IT'S GOOD TO BE A GEN 

907
00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:20,898
XER WHO CAN READ CURSIVE. 

908
00:33:20,898 --> 00:33:23,501
-- THE NAME IS PRONOUNCED 

909
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:23,735
ELBERT. 

910
00:33:23,735 --> 00:33:25,269
-- OKAY. 

911
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:26,404
-- YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. I 

912
00:33:26,404 --> 00:33:28,172
DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY, BUT I 

913
00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:30,775
DIDN'T HAVE MY UPS AND DOWNS IN

914
00:33:30,775 --> 00:33:32,243
LIFE. I HAD GOOD TIMES AND I HAD

915
00:33:32,243 --> 00:33:34,011
BAD TIMES. I HAD DRUG ISSUES, 

916
00:33:34,011 --> 00:33:36,180
ALCOHOL ISSUES, YOU NAME IT. BUT

917
00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:37,515
I MET THE RICH PROGRAM AND THAT 

918
00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:38,316
WAS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS 

919
00:33:38,316 --> 00:33:41,753
THAT'S HAPPENED FOR ME. SINCE 

920
00:33:41,753 --> 00:33:43,888
THEN, I'VE BEEN LIVING A NORMAL

921
00:33:43,888 --> 00:33:45,490
LIFE, GOT MY OWN PLACE, DOING 

922
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:47,291
GOOD, BUT IT'S MY KID. 

923
00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,327
EVERYTHING'S LOVELY, AND I 

924
00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:50,795
APPRECIATE YOU. GOD BLESS YOU 

925
00:33:50,795 --> 00:33:52,663
AND THANK YOU. 

926
00:33:52,663 --> 00:34:00,204
-- THANK YOU 

927
00:34:00,204 --> 00:34:02,573
-- I THINK WE'VE GOT EDDIE M 

928
00:34:02,573 --> 00:34:13,084
NEXT EDDIE M JUST SAYS M. IT 

929
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:23,528
JUST SAYS M. SO. 

930
00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:24,729
-- GOOD MORNING, GOOD PEOPLE AND

931
00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:25,863
GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU. 

932
00:34:25,863 --> 00:34:29,767
-- GOOD MORNING 

933
00:34:29,767 --> 00:34:33,471
-- MY. I'VE BEEN THROUGH. LEAP 

934
00:34:33,471 --> 00:34:36,140
LEAP MAN JUST BROUGHT ME UP. 

935
00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:39,610
MAN. TEN YEARS. STEVE CURRY 

936
00:34:39,610 --> 00:34:42,313
GEORGE. OH MAN. THEY'RE GOOD. 

937
00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:43,514
THEY'RE GOOD FOR PEOPLE. 

938
00:34:43,514 --> 00:34:45,850
THEY'RE GOOD FOR SEATTLE. OKAY.

939
00:34:45,850 --> 00:34:48,953
THEY BRING US UP OUT OF THE 

940
00:34:48,953 --> 00:34:51,189
DUMPS WHERE WE DIVE HEAD FIRST. 

941
00:34:51,189 --> 00:34:55,493
OKAY. TRYING TO DO SOME STUPID 

942
00:34:55,493 --> 00:34:56,627
STUFF. MAN, I'VE BEEN HIT IN 

943
00:34:56,627 --> 00:35:00,898
THE FACE. I LOST MY I SHOT IN 

944
00:35:00,898 --> 00:35:02,467
THE CHEST OVER SOME DRUGS, AND 

945
00:35:02,467 --> 00:35:04,202
IT'S JUST. IT'S NOT WORTH IT. 

946
00:35:04,202 --> 00:35:06,304
IF GOD BLESSES YOU AND TELLS YOU

947
00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:09,106
TO KEEP AWAY FROM IT, YOU BETTER

948
00:35:09,106 --> 00:35:10,541
PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S JUST

949
00:35:10,541 --> 00:35:12,677
NOT NO GOOD. GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.

950
00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:16,314
AND THANK YOU. 

951
00:35:16,314 --> 00:35:22,386
-- THANK YOU. 

952
00:35:22,386 --> 00:35:23,554
-- MARIBEL IS UP NEXT. AND THEN 

953
00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:34,031
AFTER THAT, EDWARD JACKSON. 

954
00:35:34,765 --> 00:35:38,569
-- THE OTHER ONE, EITHER ONE. 

955
00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:38,769
OKAY. 

956
00:35:38,769 --> 00:35:42,306
-- GOOD MORNING. I HAD TO WRITE 

957
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:45,676
THIS DOWN SO I'M GOING TO READ 

958
00:35:45,676 --> 00:35:48,112
IT. OKAY. NUMBER ONE, WHAT YOUR 

959
00:35:48,112 --> 00:35:49,881
LIFE WAS LIKE BEFORE. LEAD MY 

960
00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:53,851
LIFE AS A WOMAN WAS SAD AND. 

961
00:35:53,851 --> 00:35:55,920
THIS, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T FIND

962
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,021
A PROGRAM THAT COULD HELP ME, 

963
00:35:57,021 --> 00:35:58,422
LIKE LEAD. IT WAS 

964
00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:00,725
DISAPPOINTMENT. DISAPPOINTMENT 

965
00:36:00,725 --> 00:36:03,161
HOW OTHERS NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT

966
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,395
MY NEEDS. AND THIS PROGRAM 

967
00:36:04,395 --> 00:36:05,796
REALLY DID. I APPRECIATE THEIR 

968
00:36:05,796 --> 00:36:11,035
HARD WORK AND CARE FOR OTHERS TO

969
00:36:11,035 --> 00:36:13,137
BEING BEING CONNECTED TO THIS 

970
00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:14,705
PROGRAM THROUGH A CLIENT OF THEM

971
00:36:14,705 --> 00:36:17,208
THAT I MET IN MY STRUGGLING 

972
00:36:17,208 --> 00:36:19,277
LIFE. HE WAS VERY HELPFUL. 

973
00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:21,546
THANKS TO HIM, I STARTED TAKING 

974
00:36:21,546 --> 00:36:24,582
CARE OF MY ISSUES, MY PROBLEMS, 

975
00:36:24,582 --> 00:36:29,053
AND MY CASE MANAGER. NOT ONLY 

976
00:36:29,053 --> 00:36:31,088
SUPPORT ME, BUT EVERY SINGLE 

977
00:36:31,088 --> 00:36:34,225
WORKER OF LEAD HAS BEEN SO 

978
00:36:34,225 --> 00:36:38,763
HELPFUL IN MY NEEDS AND TO REACH

979
00:36:38,763 --> 00:36:44,535
MY GOALS ONE DAY SERVICE AND 

980
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:47,238
RESOURCES. THEY HELPED ME WITH 

981
00:36:47,238 --> 00:36:48,306
MAINLY IS MY LEGAL SUPPORT. THEY

982
00:36:48,306 --> 00:36:51,609
MADE ME SURE I MAKE IT TO MY 

983
00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:53,978
COURTS AND TREATMENT AND 

984
00:36:53,978 --> 00:36:55,680
EVERYTHING THAT I NEED TO GET 

985
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,082
DONE. ISSUES, ET CETERA. VERY 

986
00:36:58,082 --> 00:37:03,554
IMPORTANT. THEY GOT ME A SECURE 

987
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:09,260
PLACE TO LIVE. AND ALSO MY LIFE 

988
00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:11,295
HAS CHANGED, SWEET AND MY LIFE 

989
00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:13,898
HAS CHANGED. 360 DEGREES. THAT 

990
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:20,705
SAYS IT ALL. AND I DO BELIEVE 

991
00:37:20,705 --> 00:37:26,077
LEAD PROGRAM TO CONTINUE FOR THE

992
00:37:26,077 --> 00:37:27,812
SIMPLE FACT THAT THEY ARE REALLY

993
00:37:27,812 --> 00:37:30,414
DOING WHAT THEY WHAT THE PROGRAM

994
00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:33,017
OFFERS AND TO MANY SOULS OUT 

995
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:34,952
HERE TO RESCUE IN ANY MANNER 

996
00:37:34,952 --> 00:37:38,689
MATTER RUN OUT OF TIME. THANK 

997
00:37:38,689 --> 00:37:41,959
YOU VERY MUCH. 

998
00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:42,326
-- THANK YOU. 

999
00:37:42,326 --> 00:37:46,664
-- [APPLAUSE] 

1000
00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:47,298
-- EDWARD JACKSON JOHN MORRIS 

1001
00:37:47,298 --> 00:37:54,105
WILL BE AFTER THAT 

1002
00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:56,540
-- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 

1003
00:37:56,540 --> 00:37:59,277
EDWARD JACKSON. I'M A CASE 

1004
00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:03,147
MANAGER WITH LEAD CONTINUED 

1005
00:38:03,147 --> 00:38:05,616
FUNDING FOR LEAD MEANS THAT WE 

1006
00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:09,020
ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR

1007
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,755
CLIENTS THAT AREN'T ABLE TO 

1008
00:38:10,755 --> 00:38:12,923
REACH A LOT OF SERVICES. I COME 

1009
00:38:12,923 --> 00:38:16,227
TO YOU. I STAND HERE A GUY WHO 

1010
00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:18,429
WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE 

1011
00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:22,133
THINGS THAT MY CLIENTS HAVE BEEN

1012
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:25,403
THROUGH, WHICH MAKES ME A GOOD 

1013
00:38:25,403 --> 00:38:27,905
RESOURCE FOR THEM BECAUSE I'M 

1014
00:38:27,905 --> 00:38:31,442
NOT SPEAKING TO THEM OF THINGS 

1015
00:38:31,442 --> 00:38:33,010
THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT. I'M

1016
00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:34,945
SPEAKING TO THEM ABOUT THINGS 

1017
00:38:34,945 --> 00:38:36,547
I'VE LIVED THROUGH. WHEN I WAS 

1018
00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:38,849
OUT IN THE STREETS, THEY DIDN'T

1019
00:38:38,849 --> 00:38:39,717
HAVE THESE PROGRAMS. THERE WAS 

1020
00:38:39,717 --> 00:38:42,353
NO ONE TO SHOW ME A WAY OUT. I 

1021
00:38:42,353 --> 00:38:46,824
STAND HERE TODAY BEING GRATEFUL 

1022
00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:48,459
FOR 30 YEARS OF SOBRIETY AND 

1023
00:38:48,459 --> 00:38:51,195
BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT AND HELP

1024
00:38:51,195 --> 00:38:53,464
OTHERS TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANT

1025
00:38:53,464 --> 00:38:54,699
TO GO. MAYBE SOBRIETY IS NOT 

1026
00:38:54,699 --> 00:38:58,002
WHAT THEY WANT. THAT'S OKAY. 

1027
00:38:58,002 --> 00:39:00,471
BUT PEOPLE WANT TO DO BETTER. 

1028
00:39:00,471 --> 00:39:02,306
AND THANKFULLY, I'VE BEEN PUT IN

1029
00:39:02,306 --> 00:39:06,077
THIS POSITION TO HELP THEM. AND 

1030
00:39:06,077 --> 00:39:08,079
THANKFULLY, YOU ALL ARE IN A 

1031
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:12,116
POSITION TO HELP ME HELP THEM. 

1032
00:39:12,116 --> 00:39:13,884
PLEASE CONTINUE TO FUND THE LEAD

1033
00:39:13,884 --> 00:39:15,386
PROGRAM. I WORK IN THE RAINIER 

1034
00:39:15,386 --> 00:39:18,823
BEACH OFFICE. WE HAVE A MEAL USE

1035
00:39:18,823 --> 00:39:21,659
SITE THAT ALLOWS CLIENTS TO COME

1036
00:39:21,659 --> 00:39:24,595
IN, GET SNACKS, GET THINGS THAT 

1037
00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:27,131
THEY NEED, AND JUST HAVE A SAFE 

1038
00:39:27,131 --> 00:39:30,768
PLACE TO SIT AND BREATHE. THAT 

1039
00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:32,269
MEANS A REAL LOT, A WHOLE LOT. 

1040
00:39:32,269 --> 00:39:33,604
WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN

1041
00:39:33,604 --> 00:39:35,573
UP FOR 3 OR 4 DAYS COMING TO THE

1042
00:39:35,573 --> 00:39:39,276
MILIEU AND JUST SIT DOWN AND 

1043
00:39:39,276 --> 00:39:41,145
THEY'RE ABLE TO JUST CLOSE 

1044
00:39:41,145 --> 00:39:42,546
THEIR EYES FOR FIVE MINUTES AND 

1045
00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:46,917
KNOW THAT THEY'RE SAFE. THAT 

1046
00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:48,219
MEANS A LOT. AND IT ALSO MEANS A

1047
00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:51,455
LOT TO ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE

1048
00:39:51,455 --> 00:39:55,793
THAT. SO PLEASE, PLEASE CONTINUE

1049
00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:57,528
TO FUND THE LEAD PROGRAM. THANK 

1050
00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:57,762
YOU. 

1051
00:39:57,762 --> 00:40:02,933
-- THANK YOU 

1052
00:40:02,933 --> 00:40:03,267
-- [APPLAUSE] 

1053
00:40:03,267 --> 00:40:06,804
-- JOHN MORRIS TO BE FOLLOWED BY

1054
00:40:06,804 --> 00:40:07,138
ARNELL RUIZ. 

1055
00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:08,706
-- HI. GOOD MORNING. 

1056
00:40:08,706 --> 00:40:09,106
-- GOOD MORNING. 

1057
00:40:09,106 --> 00:40:10,407
-- JUST GOT A TESTIMONY WRITTEN 

1058
00:40:10,407 --> 00:40:14,445
HERE MY NAME IS JOHN MORRIS. I 

1059
00:40:14,445 --> 00:40:16,147
STAND BEFORE YOU AS A 

1060
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:17,948
PARTICIPANT OF THE LEAD PROGRAM.

1061
00:40:17,948 --> 00:40:19,583
I FIRST HEARD OF LEAD BACK IN 

1062
00:40:19,583 --> 00:40:23,387
2021. AT THAT TIME, I'VE BEEN 

1063
00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:25,656
ON THE STREETS FOR ABOUT THREE 

1064
00:40:25,656 --> 00:40:28,893
YEARS. I WAS ADDICTED TO 

1065
00:40:28,893 --> 00:40:32,062
OPIATES, AMPHETAMINES MY MY 

1066
00:40:32,062 --> 00:40:33,130
ADDICTION WAS RUNNING MY LIFE AT

1067
00:40:33,130 --> 00:40:38,536
THAT TIME AND I JUST WANT TO BE 

1068
00:40:38,536 --> 00:40:41,138
HONEST ABOUT WHERE I CAME FROM. 

1069
00:40:41,138 --> 00:40:43,841
YOU KNOW, I HAD NEVER BEEN ON 

1070
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:45,509
THE STREETS BEFORE UNTIL UNTIL I

1071
00:40:45,509 --> 00:40:47,812
CAME TO SEATTLE. AND WAS 

1072
00:40:47,812 --> 00:40:50,414
ADDICTED TO DRUGS. BUT DURING 

1073
00:40:50,414 --> 00:40:52,383
THOSE TIMES I WAS ARRESTED FOR 

1074
00:40:52,383 --> 00:40:54,718
STEALING, TRESPASSING, DRUG 

1075
00:40:54,718 --> 00:40:56,320
POSSESSION AND PARAPHERNALIA. I 

1076
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,355
WAS IN AN ADULT JAIL OVER AND 

1077
00:40:58,355 --> 00:41:02,893
OVER AGAIN. I WAS AT THE LOWEST 

1078
00:41:02,893 --> 00:41:04,094
POINT OF MY LIFE. AND DURING 

1079
00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:07,631
THOSE TIMES WHEN WHEN I WHEN I 

1080
00:41:07,631 --> 00:41:08,199
THOUGHT EVERYBODY FORGOTTEN 

1081
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:10,801
ABOUT ME, LEAD WAS THERE. THAT 

1082
00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:12,937
SHOWED UP FOR ME IN JAIL AND IN 

1083
00:41:12,937 --> 00:41:15,172
COURT. THEY ADVOCATED FOR ME 

1084
00:41:15,172 --> 00:41:17,541
WHEN I COULDN'T ADVOCATE FOR 

1085
00:41:17,541 --> 00:41:21,478
MYSELF. MY CASEWORKER, WHO AM I 

1086
00:41:21,478 --> 00:41:23,981
CREDIT FOR HELPING ME SAVE MY 

1087
00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:28,152
LIFE TO WHERE I AM TODAY. SHE 

1088
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:30,387
TREATS ME WITH RESPECT, WITH 

1089
00:41:30,387 --> 00:41:32,389
DIGNITY AS A HUMAN BEING. SHE 

1090
00:41:32,389 --> 00:41:35,593
NEVER GAVE UP ON ME. SHE STILL 

1091
00:41:35,593 --> 00:41:37,161
SHE'S SHE'S STILL THERE, 

1092
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:40,698
RIGHT? TODAY AND I WROTE IF IT 

1093
00:41:40,698 --> 00:41:42,700
WEREN'T FOR THE LEAD PROGRAM, I

1094
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:44,034
DON'T I DON'T TRULY KNOW WHERE

1095
00:41:44,034 --> 00:41:46,670
I'D BE TODAY. LEAD. THEY 

1096
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:48,105
ADVOCATED FOR ME. THEY HELPED ME

1097
00:41:48,105 --> 00:41:49,573
WITH HOUSING, MEDICAL NEEDS, 

1098
00:41:49,573 --> 00:41:53,210
MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, AND JUST 

1099
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:54,478
CHECKING ON CHECKING IN WITH ME 

1100
00:41:54,478 --> 00:41:56,080
ON A DAILY BASIS. THAT MAKES A 

1101
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,282
DIFFERENCE. I'VE BEEN IN 

1102
00:41:58,282 --> 00:42:00,518
RECOVERY FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW 

1103
00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:06,090
AND LEAD HAS BEEN THERE EVERY 

1104
00:42:06,090 --> 00:42:07,958
STEP OF THE WAY. I WILL FOREVER 

1105
00:42:07,958 --> 00:42:10,294
BE GRATEFUL FOR THE LEAD PROGRAM

1106
00:42:10,294 --> 00:42:12,730
AND MY CASEWORKER DID THAT. THAT

1107
00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:15,633
PROGRAM REALLY WORKS. AND AND, 

1108
00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:20,037
AND IT HELPS. THANK YOU. 

1109
00:42:20,037 --> 00:42:26,343
-- THANK YOU. 

1110
00:42:26,343 --> 00:42:28,946
-- ANGEL RUIZ DUVALL. DANIELLE 

1111
00:42:28,946 --> 00:42:29,213
HAMMOND. 

1112
00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:31,682
-- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 

1113
00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:33,284
ANGEL RUIZ. AND I STARTED WITH 

1114
00:42:33,284 --> 00:42:35,052
THE LEAD PROGRAM FIVE YEARS AGO 

1115
00:42:35,052 --> 00:42:39,456
AS A CASE MANAGER. AND DURING MY

1116
00:42:39,456 --> 00:42:41,625
TIME, I'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO 

1117
00:42:41,625 --> 00:42:42,726
SEE JUST THE IMPACT THAT WE'VE 

1118
00:42:42,726 --> 00:42:44,995
HAD ON THE CLIENTS THAT WE 

1119
00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:46,864
SERVE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT 

1120
00:42:46,864 --> 00:42:48,565
STANDS TODAY, THESE FOLKS ARE 

1121
00:42:48,565 --> 00:42:50,668
HERE REALLY SPEAKING ON WHAT 

1122
00:42:50,668 --> 00:42:52,236
THEY'VE EXPERIENCED THEMSELVES.

1123
00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:54,038
AND SO BEING ON THIS SIDE OF 

1124
00:42:54,038 --> 00:42:56,941
THINGS FROM, AS A CASE MANAGER 

1125
00:42:56,941 --> 00:42:59,410
PERSPECTIVE, JUST REALLY BEING 

1126
00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:01,278
ABLE TO WALK ALONGSIDE PEOPLE 

1127
00:43:01,278 --> 00:43:02,980
AND BE FOR MANY, JUST ONE OF THE

1128
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:05,182
ONLY SUPPORT SYSTEMS THAT THEY 

1129
00:43:05,182 --> 00:43:08,986
HAVE AND BEING THAT PERSON, THAT

1130
00:43:08,986 --> 00:43:09,753
TRUSTED PERSON THAT THEY CAN 

1131
00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:12,856
CALL, THAT THEY CAN NAVIGATE 

1132
00:43:12,856 --> 00:43:13,457
THESE DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES 

1133
00:43:13,457 --> 00:43:16,460
WITH AND TRULY LIKE, SEE IT 

1134
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:17,628
THROUGH AND SEE IT FOLLOW 

1135
00:43:17,628 --> 00:43:19,763
THROUGH AND BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY 

1136
00:43:19,763 --> 00:43:20,965
SUPPORT THEM. AND I HAD A VERY 

1137
00:43:20,965 --> 00:43:22,633
PROFOUND MOMENT AS A CASE 

1138
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:26,937
MANAGER SUPPORTING A CLIENT OF 

1139
00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:28,806
MINE WHO HAD A LOT OF LEGAL 

1140
00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:31,041
THINGS THAT HAD BEEN SORT OF 

1141
00:43:31,041 --> 00:43:33,277
UNATTENDED, NOT RESOLVED. AND HE

1142
00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:35,679
HAD GOTTEN TO A PLACE OF 

1143
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,614
STABILITY WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO 

1144
00:43:37,614 --> 00:43:38,882
FINALLY START MAKING PROGRESS 

1145
00:43:38,882 --> 00:43:41,852
TOWARDS ADDRESSING THOSE THINGS.

1146
00:43:41,852 --> 00:43:44,388
AND I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS AN OLD

1147
00:43:44,388 --> 00:43:48,258
CASE. AND WHEN I STOOD UP THERE 

1148
00:43:48,258 --> 00:43:50,194
AND I ADVOCATED FOR HIM AND 

1149
00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:50,995
EXPLAINED TO THE COURT, LIKE ALL

1150
00:43:50,995 --> 00:43:52,496
OF THE PROGRESS HE HAD DONE, 

1151
00:43:52,496 --> 00:43:53,464
EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD WORKED SO

1152
00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:55,632
HARD, AND TO LOOK AT HIM AS A 

1153
00:43:55,632 --> 00:43:58,135
WHOLE PICTURE, AND NOT JUST WHAT

1154
00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:00,637
THAT REPORT SAID. IT, IT WAS 

1155
00:44:00,637 --> 00:44:02,840
REALLY PROFOUND. MY CLIENT 

1156
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,075
AFTERWARD SAID, I'VE NEVER HEARD

1157
00:44:05,075 --> 00:44:05,943
ANYONE TALK ABOUT ME SO 

1158
00:44:05,943 --> 00:44:08,712
POSITIVELY, AND THAT MADE A 

1159
00:44:08,712 --> 00:44:10,547
REALLY BIG IMPACT ON ME AND MADE

1160
00:44:10,547 --> 00:44:12,483
ME REALIZE THAT THIS WORK 

1161
00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,318
MATTERS AND IT DOES ACTUALLY 

1162
00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:16,153
AFFECT CHANGE, EVEN IF IT'S 

1163
00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:18,655
SOMETHING AS SMALL AS SPEAKING 

1164
00:44:18,655 --> 00:44:21,925
POSITIVITY AND APPLAUDING PEOPLE

1165
00:44:21,925 --> 00:44:22,760
FOR THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE, 

1166
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,028
THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE 

1167
00:44:24,028 --> 00:44:24,661
ACCOMPLISHED, THE THINGS THAT 

1168
00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:27,398
THEY HAVE YET TO DO, IT REALLY 

1169
00:44:27,398 --> 00:44:29,733
DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND I'M

1170
00:44:29,733 --> 00:44:31,502
VERY THANKFUL TO HAVE THIS 

1171
00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:34,571
OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. 

1172
00:44:34,571 --> 00:44:41,412
-- THANK YOU. 

1173
00:44:41,412 --> 00:44:43,647
-- HELLO. 

1174
00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:44,715
-- MY NAME IS DANIELLE HAMMOND 

1175
00:44:44,715 --> 00:44:46,016
AND I'M A SCREENING AND 

1176
00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:46,617
OUTREACH COORDINATOR FOR THE 

1177
00:44:46,617 --> 00:44:49,186
LEAD PROGRAM OUT OF THE WEST 

1178
00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:50,521
PRECINCT. AND I'M A RESIDENT OF

1179
00:44:50,521 --> 00:44:51,789
DISTRICT THREE. I'VE WORKED AT 

1180
00:44:51,789 --> 00:44:53,323
LEAD FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. YOU 

1181
00:44:53,323 --> 00:44:54,958
ACTUALLY HEARD FROM MY CLIENT, 

1182
00:44:54,958 --> 00:44:57,027
STEVE GASTON? HE WAS ONLINE A 

1183
00:44:57,027 --> 00:44:57,928
FEW MINUTES AGO. AND I JUST WANT

1184
00:44:57,928 --> 00:44:59,963
TO SAY AGAIN THAT HE HAS A 

1185
00:44:59,963 --> 00:45:01,098
HEARING TOMORROW TO GET FULL 

1186
00:45:01,098 --> 00:45:02,633
CUSTODY OF HIS EIGHT YEAR OLD 

1187
00:45:02,633 --> 00:45:03,934
SON. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN 

1188
00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:05,102
POSSIBLE WITHOUT LEAD. IT JUST 

1189
00:45:05,102 --> 00:45:06,770
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. WHEN I 

1190
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:07,838
THINK ABOUT LEAD, I THINK ABOUT 

1191
00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:10,307
BEING ABLE TO OFFER PEOPLE 

1192
00:45:10,307 --> 00:45:11,975
TAILORED SUPPORT FOR THEIR LEGAL

1193
00:45:11,975 --> 00:45:13,043
ISSUES. MOST PEOPLE I COME 

1194
00:45:13,043 --> 00:45:13,977
ACROSS HAVE AT LEAST ONE 

1195
00:45:13,977 --> 00:45:15,446
WARRANT, AND USUALLY WAY MORE 

1196
00:45:15,446 --> 00:45:17,381
THAN THAT ALL ACROSS WESTERN 

1197
00:45:17,381 --> 00:45:19,149
WASHINGTON OR FARTHER AWAY. AND 

1198
00:45:19,149 --> 00:45:20,317
THE THREAT OF JAIL IS ALWAYS 

1199
00:45:20,317 --> 00:45:21,985
LOOMING IN THE BACK OF THEIR 

1200
00:45:21,985 --> 00:45:22,853
MINDS. WHEN PEOPLE TALK WITH ME 

1201
00:45:22,853 --> 00:45:24,021
ABOUT THEIR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS, 

1202
00:45:24,021 --> 00:45:25,923
THEY'RE OFTEN OVERWHELMED WITH 

1203
00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:27,991
ANXIETY AND HOPELESSNESS AROUND 

1204
00:45:27,991 --> 00:45:29,893
EVEN BEGINNING TO TRY TO START 

1205
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:31,695
ADDRESSING THEIR WARRANTS. I MET

1206
00:45:31,695 --> 00:45:33,030
A CLIENT WHEN SHE WAS GETTING 

1207
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:34,531
ARRESTED AND REFERRED TO LEAD 

1208
00:45:34,531 --> 00:45:36,200
VIA AN ARREST DIVERSION FOR A 

1209
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,267
VISA ON 12th AND JACKSON A FEW 

1210
00:45:37,267 --> 00:45:38,635
MONTHS AGO, WHEN I TOLD HER 

1211
00:45:38,635 --> 00:45:39,937
ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND ABOUT THE 

1212
00:45:39,937 --> 00:45:40,671
LEGAL SPECIALTY OF IT ALL, SHE 

1213
00:45:40,671 --> 00:45:42,339
SAID, I KNOW I HAVE COURT 

1214
00:45:42,339 --> 00:45:44,041
TOMORROW IN RENTON, BUT I LOST 

1215
00:45:44,041 --> 00:45:45,175
MY PAPERWORK. I'VE BEEN 

1216
00:45:45,175 --> 00:45:46,110
OUTSIDE, I KNOW IT'S TOMORROW. I

1217
00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:47,678
DON'T REMEMBER WHO MY ATTORNEY 

1218
00:45:47,678 --> 00:45:50,748
IS. LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO? SO I 

1219
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:52,449
WAS WAS ABLE TO SAY, OH, LET'S 

1220
00:45:52,449 --> 00:45:53,484
CALL THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL 

1221
00:45:53,484 --> 00:45:54,485
PROSECUTOR. AND WE PUT HER ON 

1222
00:45:54,485 --> 00:45:55,285
SPEAKERPHONE AND SHE WAS ABLE TO

1223
00:45:55,285 --> 00:45:56,987
SAY, OH YEAH, YOU'VE GOT COURT.

1224
00:45:56,987 --> 00:45:58,589
AND ACTUALLY TWO DAYS IT'S AT 

1225
00:45:58,589 --> 00:45:59,757
930, HERE'S YOUR ATTORNEY'S 

1226
00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:02,159
NUMBER AND HERE'S THE LINK TO 

1227
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:03,093
APPEARING VIRTUALLY. SHE CAME TO

1228
00:46:03,093 --> 00:46:03,994
OUR OFFICE LATER THAT DAY AND WE

1229
00:46:03,994 --> 00:46:04,762
WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF 

1230
00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:05,696
FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT AND GET 

1231
00:46:05,696 --> 00:46:08,899
HER GOING TO COURT. SO IT'S 

1232
00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:10,033
JUST THAT REALLY QUICK KIND OF 

1233
00:46:10,033 --> 00:46:12,069
CARE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO 

1234
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:13,070
PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 

1235
00:46:13,070 --> 00:46:14,104
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT 

1236
00:46:14,104 --> 00:46:15,372
KINDS OF CASE MANAGEMENT IN THE 

1237
00:46:15,372 --> 00:46:17,574
CITY, BUT LEAD IS ABLE TO MOVE 

1238
00:46:17,574 --> 00:46:19,276
REAL FAST WITH THE LEGAL STUFF. 

1239
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:21,245
AND WE'VE JUST GOT THAT NICE 

1240
00:46:21,245 --> 00:46:22,312
SPECIALTY. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY 

1241
00:46:22,312 --> 00:46:23,413
HELP PEOPLE OUT WITH A NUMBER OF

1242
00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:24,081
OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE HEARD 

1243
00:46:24,081 --> 00:46:25,983
ABOUT TODAY. BUT THAT LEGAL 

1244
00:46:25,983 --> 00:46:27,417
SPECIALTY IS KIND OF WHAT MAKES 

1245
00:46:27,417 --> 00:46:32,523
LEAD WORK SO WELL. THANKS. BYE. 

1246
00:46:32,523 --> 00:46:39,496
-- THANK YOU. 

1247
00:46:39,496 --> 00:46:40,597
-- WE HAVE GEORGE HAZEL TO CLOSE

1248
00:46:40,597 --> 00:46:44,101
OUT OUR IN PERSON SPEAKERS. 

1249
00:46:44,101 --> 00:46:49,973
-- [LAUGHTER] 

1250
00:46:49,973 --> 00:46:52,643
-- EXCUSE ME. GOOD MORNING. 

1251
00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:54,711
-- MY NAME IS GEORGE HAZEL. I'M

1252
00:46:54,711 --> 00:46:57,648
A CASE MANAGER WITH THE LEAD 

1253
00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,516
PROGRAM. ONE OF THE MOST 

1254
00:46:59,516 --> 00:47:01,952
EFFECTIVE THINGS THAT ONE CAN DO

1255
00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:03,487
IS WALK ALONGSIDE OF A HUMAN 

1256
00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:05,989
BEING THAT'S GOING THROUGH A 

1257
00:47:05,989 --> 00:47:08,926
STRUGGLE. I GET TO WALK 

1258
00:47:08,926 --> 00:47:09,726
ALONGSIDE THE CLIENTS. THAT'S 

1259
00:47:09,726 --> 00:47:11,962
GOING THROUGH PAIN AND WHAT THAT

1260
00:47:11,962 --> 00:47:13,130
LOOKS LIKE. THE PAIN OF BEING 

1261
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:14,198
HOMELESS, OR THE PAIN OF MENTAL 

1262
00:47:14,198 --> 00:47:15,399
HEALTH, OR THE PAIN OF GOING 

1263
00:47:15,399 --> 00:47:16,900
THROUGH SUBSTANCE, AND TO BE 

1264
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:19,036
ABLE TO WALK ALONGSIDE OF 

1265
00:47:19,036 --> 00:47:19,937
SOMEONE AND NOT GIVE UP. SO WE 

1266
00:47:19,937 --> 00:47:23,440
ARE A NON GIVE UP PROGRAM. WE 

1267
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,775
WALK ALONGSIDE OUR CLIENTS 

1268
00:47:24,775 --> 00:47:26,677
DESPITE OF WE MEET THEM WHERE 

1269
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,445
THEY'RE AT DESPITE OF SOMETIMES

1270
00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:30,214
THEY TRY TO TO SUCCEED TO 

1271
00:47:30,214 --> 00:47:31,148
SUCCESS AND SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT

1272
00:47:31,148 --> 00:47:32,482
THEY MIGHT DROP THE BALL LIKE WE

1273
00:47:32,482 --> 00:47:34,484
ALL DO. BUT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT

1274
00:47:34,484 --> 00:47:35,886
THINGS WITH WORKING WITH THE 

1275
00:47:35,886 --> 00:47:37,621
CLIENTS THAT LEAD IS BEING 

1276
00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:39,623
AVAILABLE. AND I PRIDE MYSELF IN

1277
00:47:39,623 --> 00:47:40,357
BEING AVAILABLE WITH THE CLIENTS

1278
00:47:40,357 --> 00:47:41,358
WHERE THEY KNOW THEY CAN CALL 

1279
00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:42,259
ME, THEY KNOW THEY CAN REACH OUT

1280
00:47:42,259 --> 00:47:43,393
AND I'M GOING TO BE THERE, 

1281
00:47:43,393 --> 00:47:45,762
WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. THE

1282
00:47:45,762 --> 00:47:46,997
EXPECTATION IS JUST TO LIVE ONE 

1283
00:47:46,997 --> 00:47:49,833
DAY AT A TIME. AND SO I'VE BEEN

1284
00:47:49,833 --> 00:47:51,235
GIVEN THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE 

1285
00:47:51,235 --> 00:47:53,337
TO WALK ALONGSIDE OF MY CLIENTS 

1286
00:47:53,337 --> 00:47:57,274
OR CLIENTS AND SHOW THEM WHAT 

1287
00:47:57,274 --> 00:47:59,009
VICTORY LOOKS LIKE. SMALL 

1288
00:47:59,009 --> 00:47:59,543
VICTORIES LIKE GOING FROM 

1289
00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:00,777
UNHOUSED TO BEING HOUSED, GOING 

1290
00:48:00,777 --> 00:48:03,547
FROM NOT HAVING ID TO HAVING ID,

1291
00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:05,382
GOING FROM FROM NOT EATING TO 

1292
00:48:05,382 --> 00:48:07,084
EATING, GOING FROM DIRTY CLOTHES

1293
00:48:07,084 --> 00:48:10,187
TO CLEAN CLOTHES, ALL THOSE 

1294
00:48:10,187 --> 00:48:10,854
SIMPLE THINGS IN LIFE THAT 

1295
00:48:10,854 --> 00:48:11,922
SOMETIMES WE CAN TAKE FOR 

1296
00:48:11,922 --> 00:48:13,390
GRANTED MEANS A LOT TO OUR 

1297
00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:15,259
CLIENTS. AND WITHOUT THE PROGRAM

1298
00:48:15,259 --> 00:48:16,026
OF LEAD, THEY WILL HAVE A PLACE 

1299
00:48:16,026 --> 00:48:18,161
THEY CAN GO AND RECEIVE THAT 

1300
00:48:18,161 --> 00:48:20,297
SUPPORT UNCONDITIONALLY. AND SO 

1301
00:48:20,297 --> 00:48:21,732
I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY. 

1302
00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:22,799
I'M HONORED TO BE A CASE 

1303
00:48:22,799 --> 00:48:23,433
MANAGER WITH LEE, AND I THANK 

1304
00:48:23,433 --> 00:48:24,334
YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING. HAVE A 

1305
00:48:24,334 --> 00:48:28,839
GREAT DAY. 

1306
00:48:28,839 --> 00:48:31,775
-- THANK YOU. ONE MORE ONLINE. 

1307
00:48:31,775 --> 00:48:34,511
-- AND WE HAVE ONE LAST REMOTE 

1308
00:48:34,511 --> 00:48:37,147
COMMENTER. PLEASE PRESS STAR 

1309
00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:39,516
SIX, STAR SIX. AFTER YOU HEAR 

1310
00:48:39,516 --> 00:48:42,986
THE PROMPT, YOU HAVE BEEN 

1311
00:48:42,986 --> 00:48:50,694
UNMUTED. BOSLEY 

1312
00:48:50,927 --> 00:48:53,563
-- HI, MY NAME IS ERICA BOSLEY 

1313
00:48:53,563 --> 00:48:57,801
AND I'M A PART OF HOLY IS A A 

1314
00:48:57,801 --> 00:48:59,603
COMPANY THAT HAS THREE PHASES. 

1315
00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:01,405
IT HAS THE LEGAL PHASE, THE 

1316
00:49:01,405 --> 00:49:04,741
HOUSING AND THE AFTERCARE. 

1317
00:49:04,741 --> 00:49:05,842
BEFORE I CAME TO CO-LEAD, I 

1318
00:49:05,842 --> 00:49:07,911
DIDN'T HAVE ANY HOPE. BUT THEY 

1319
00:49:07,911 --> 00:49:10,414
CAME AND GOT ME. AND I'M HERE 

1320
00:49:10,414 --> 00:49:11,882
AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL. IT'S A 

1321
00:49:11,882 --> 00:49:13,216
WRAPAROUND SERVICE. WHATEVER YOU

1322
00:49:13,216 --> 00:49:15,385
NEED HELP WITH FROM HOUSING TO 

1323
00:49:15,385 --> 00:49:18,855
JOBS OR CLOTHING, MENTAL HEALTH,

1324
00:49:18,855 --> 00:49:21,124
COVID IS HERE. THEY GIVE US THE 

1325
00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:22,192
MAP AND WE DRIVE THE CAR. SO 

1326
00:49:22,192 --> 00:49:26,063
WHATEVER WE NEED, WE HAVE. AND 

1327
00:49:26,063 --> 00:49:26,963
I'M THANKFUL FOR JUST THE WHOLE

1328
00:49:26,963 --> 00:49:28,865
TEAM. THEY HAVE REALLY 

1329
00:49:28,865 --> 00:49:29,499
GRACIOUSLY HELPED ME ALONG THE 

1330
00:49:29,499 --> 00:49:30,167
WAY. AND PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK 

1331
00:49:30,167 --> 00:49:33,904
THAT EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT IS 

1332
00:49:33,904 --> 00:49:35,072
UNHOUSED IS, IS ON SOME KIND OF 

1333
00:49:35,072 --> 00:49:36,640
DRUGS, ARE GOING THROUGH 

1334
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,607
ADDICTION. AND THAT'S NOT 

1335
00:49:37,607 --> 00:49:39,509
ALWAYS THE CASE. I MEAN, PEOPLE 

1336
00:49:39,509 --> 00:49:41,478
ARE JUST ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM 

1337
00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:43,146
HOUSING. WE REALLY NEED THESE 

1338
00:49:43,146 --> 00:49:46,183
PROGRAMS. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THEM.

1339
00:49:46,183 --> 00:49:47,417
I WAS LOST WHEN THEY CAME TO ME 

1340
00:49:47,417 --> 00:49:48,985
AND SAID, A TINY HOUSE. I WAS 

1341
00:49:48,985 --> 00:49:51,288
LIKE, BECAUSE I HAD NO FAITH OR 

1342
00:49:51,288 --> 00:49:53,290
HOPE IN A TINY HOUSE. BUT 

1343
00:49:53,290 --> 00:49:55,125
CO-LEAD ACTUALLY DOES WHAT THEY 

1344
00:49:55,125 --> 00:49:56,360
SAY. AND THEY ASKED ME, WHAT DO 

1345
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,695
I WANT TO DO? I TELL THEM, AND 

1346
00:49:58,695 --> 00:49:59,329
THEY JUST GIVE ME THE RESOURCES.

1347
00:49:59,329 --> 00:50:02,299
SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL. AND THEY 

1348
00:50:02,299 --> 00:50:03,600
ALSO HAVE A COMPANY, I MEAN, NOT

1349
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,968
A COMPANY, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE 

1350
00:50:04,968 --> 00:50:05,569
AFTERCARE AND AFTERCARE WITH 

1351
00:50:05,569 --> 00:50:07,137
AFTERCARE. DOES. THIS IS ANOTHER

1352
00:50:07,137 --> 00:50:07,904
WRAPAROUND SERVICE WHEN WE GET 

1353
00:50:07,904 --> 00:50:09,339
HOUSED, WHICH I AM. I JUST 

1354
00:50:09,339 --> 00:50:11,575
HAVEN'T MOVED YET. THEY JUST 

1355
00:50:11,575 --> 00:50:13,410
THEY, THEY DO EVERYTHING AS WELL

1356
00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:16,546
FROM EVERYTHING THAT HOLY DID 

1357
00:50:16,546 --> 00:50:20,250
WHEN I WAS LODGING, THEY DO IT 

1358
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:22,319
WHEN I'M HOUSED IN MY PLACE. SO

1359
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:22,986
IF I NEED FURNITURE, IF I NEED 

1360
00:50:22,986 --> 00:50:25,355
HELP WITH RENT, ANYTHING THAT I 

1361
00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:26,423
NEED, THEY'RE THERE. AND I'M 

1362
00:50:26,423 --> 00:50:28,658
VERY, VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR. 

1363
00:50:28,658 --> 00:50:33,330
THANK YOU 

1364
00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:38,468
-- THANK YOU. AWESOME. OKAY. THE

1365
00:50:38,468 --> 00:50:40,270
60 MINUTE PERIOD FOR PUBLIC 

1366
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:42,205
COMMENT IS EXPIRED. I SHOULD 

1367
00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:43,707
NOTE TOO THAT NORMALLY EARLY ON 

1368
00:50:43,707 --> 00:50:46,643
I WOULD SAY PLEASE, NO CLAPPING,

1369
00:50:46,643 --> 00:50:50,814
JUST DO JAZZ HANDS OR SNAPS. BUT

1370
00:50:50,814 --> 00:50:51,481
GIVEN THAT YOU'RE CELEBRATING 

1371
00:50:51,481 --> 00:50:52,816
DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL SOBRIETY, I

1372
00:50:52,816 --> 00:50:54,618
FIGURED THIS COULD BE A GOOD 

1373
00:50:54,618 --> 00:50:57,020
EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE. AND AND 

1374
00:50:57,020 --> 00:50:58,422
WITH THAT SAID, I THINK WITH THE

1375
00:50:58,422 --> 00:51:02,726
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN, 

1376
00:51:02,726 --> 00:51:03,360
YOU KNOW, JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE

1377
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,896
THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE 

1378
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:07,164
FACING THE HURDLES. AND THEN AS 

1379
00:51:07,164 --> 00:51:08,965
ONE PERSON WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW,

1380
00:51:08,965 --> 00:51:12,536
YOU KNOW, GAINING HOPE. SO GIVEN

1381
00:51:12,536 --> 00:51:13,770
ALL THAT ONE LAST ROUND OF 

1382
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:15,138
APPLAUSE FOR ALL THOSE THAT HAVE

1383
00:51:15,138 --> 00:51:18,074
BEEN SOBER FOR WHATEVER, FROM 30

1384
00:51:18,074 --> 00:51:19,376
YEARS TO, I THINK A YEAR OR LESS

1385
00:51:19,376 --> 00:51:24,781
THAN A YEAR. SO PLEASE 

1386
00:51:24,781 --> 00:51:30,687
-- [APPLAUSE] 

1387
00:51:30,687 --> 00:51:31,388
-- OKAY. NOW, WITH THAT SAID, WE

1388
00:51:31,388 --> 00:51:33,657
WILL NOW PROCEED TO OUR ITEMS OF

1389
00:51:33,657 --> 00:51:36,193
BUSINESS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC 

1390
00:51:36,193 --> 00:51:37,694
ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT WRITTEN

1391
00:51:37,694 --> 00:51:38,995
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON SIGN UP CARDS

1392
00:51:38,995 --> 00:51:41,665
AVAILABLE, OR EMAIL THE COUNCIL 

1393
00:51:41,665 --> 00:51:43,266
AT COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV IN THE 

1394
00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:44,201
FUTURE. SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO

1395
00:51:44,201 --> 00:51:46,503
OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL

1396
00:51:46,503 --> 00:51:47,103
THE CLERK PLEASE READ AGENDA 

1397
00:51:47,103 --> 00:51:49,372
ITEM NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD 

1398
00:51:49,372 --> 00:51:51,808
-- AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO 

1399
00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:53,443
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES. UPDATING 

1400
00:51:53,443 --> 00:51:54,077
CITY POLICY FOR THE ENFORCEMENT 

1401
00:51:54,077 --> 00:51:56,379
OF THE CRIMES OF KNOWING, 

1402
00:51:56,379 --> 00:52:00,450
POSSESSION AND USE OF CONTROLLED

1403
00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:01,051
SUBSTANCES. AMENDING SECTION 

1404
00:52:01,051 --> 00:52:02,052
3.28.14. ONE OF THE SEATTLE 

1405
00:52:02,052 --> 00:52:03,687
MUNICIPAL CODE AND REPEALING 

1406
00:52:03,687 --> 00:52:07,023
SECTION FOUR OF ORDINANCE 

1407
00:52:07,023 --> 00:52:09,659
126896. 

1408
00:52:09,659 --> 00:52:11,094
-- THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. WE 

1409
00:52:11,094 --> 00:52:12,429
HAVE MR. DOSS FROM CENTRAL STAFF

1410
00:52:12,429 --> 00:52:14,931
JOINING US. WHO'S GOING TO 

1411
00:52:14,931 --> 00:52:16,533
INTRODUCE FIRST HIMSELF, BUT 

1412
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,969
THEN ALSO THE ORDINANCE THAT WE 

1413
00:52:18,969 --> 00:52:21,538
HAVE BEFORE US, MR. DOSS. 

1414
00:52:21,538 --> 00:52:23,373
-- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GREG 

1415
00:52:23,373 --> 00:52:25,542
DOSS HERE, YOUR CENTRAL STAFF 

1416
00:52:25,542 --> 00:52:29,479
HERE TO DISCUSS COUNCIL BILL 

1417
00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:33,717
121248. 

1418
00:52:33,717 --> 00:52:35,352
-- OKAY. HAVE A GOOD DAY. 

1419
00:52:35,352 --> 00:52:42,325
-- I'LL TRY NOT TO BE OFFENDED 

1420
00:52:42,325 --> 00:52:45,395
-- OKAY. SO YES, LET'S LET'S 

1421
00:52:45,395 --> 00:52:49,900
WALK THROUGH THE THE BILL. AND 

1422
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:51,635
ITS MAIN PIECES. AND COLLEAGUES,

1423
00:52:51,635 --> 00:52:53,436
IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, YOU CAN 

1424
00:52:53,436 --> 00:52:56,773
DO SO. OR WE CAN WAIT TOWARDS 

1425
00:52:56,773 --> 00:52:58,375
THE THE END OF HIS COMMENTS. 

1426
00:52:58,375 --> 00:53:00,343
-- ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL BEGIN 

1427
00:53:00,343 --> 00:53:00,911
WITH SOME BACKGROUND ON THE 

1428
00:53:00,911 --> 00:53:02,779
CITY'S CURRENT ENFORCEMENT OF 

1429
00:53:02,779 --> 00:53:05,081
PUBLIC USE AND POSSESSION LAWS. 

1430
00:53:05,081 --> 00:53:06,116
DESCRIBE THE PROVISIONS OF THE 

1431
00:53:06,116 --> 00:53:07,450
BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, FOUR, 

1432
00:53:07,450 --> 00:53:09,419
EIGHT AND DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL 

1433
00:53:09,419 --> 00:53:11,621
IMPACTS OF THE BILL. I'D ALSO 

1434
00:53:11,621 --> 00:53:13,757
NOTE THAT THERE IS A STAFF MEMO 

1435
00:53:13,757 --> 00:53:14,257
AVAILABLE ONLINE ON THE 

1436
00:53:14,257 --> 00:53:17,494
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. SO BY WAY 

1437
00:53:17,494 --> 00:53:19,262
OF BACKGROUND, IN MAY 2023, THE 

1438
00:53:19,262 --> 00:53:19,863
WASHINGTON STATE LEGISLATURE 

1439
00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:22,632
PASSED ENGROSSED SECOND 

1440
00:53:22,632 --> 00:53:24,201
SUBSTITUTE BILL 5536, WHICH 

1441
00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:25,869
RECLASSIFIED AS GROSS 

1442
00:53:25,869 --> 00:53:27,637
MISDEMEANORS. THE KNOWING, 

1443
00:53:27,637 --> 00:53:29,306
POSSESSION OR USE OF A 

1444
00:53:29,306 --> 00:53:31,408
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE IN A PUBLIC

1445
00:53:31,408 --> 00:53:32,976
PLACE. THE BILL ENCOURAGED LAW 

1446
00:53:32,976 --> 00:53:33,577
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO OFFER 

1447
00:53:33,577 --> 00:53:35,845
ANY INDIVIDUAL ARRESTED FOR 

1448
00:53:35,845 --> 00:53:38,682
SIMPLE POSSESSION OR USE ACCESS 

1449
00:53:38,682 --> 00:53:41,084
TO ASSESSMENT, TREATMENT OR 

1450
00:53:41,084 --> 00:53:43,320
SERVICES IN LIEU OF BOOKING THE 

1451
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,988
INDIVIDUAL INTO JAIL OR 

1452
00:53:44,988 --> 00:53:45,455
REFERRING THE CASE TO 

1453
00:53:45,455 --> 00:53:49,859
PROSECUTION IN AUGUST OF 2023, 

1454
00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:52,329
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL PASSED 

1455
00:53:52,329 --> 00:53:54,531
ORDINANCE 126896, WHICH 

1456
00:53:54,531 --> 00:53:55,865
INCORPORATED INTO THE SEATTLE 

1457
00:53:55,865 --> 00:53:58,068
MUNICIPAL CODE. THE STATE'S 

1458
00:53:58,068 --> 00:53:58,702
RECLASSIFICATION OF PUBLIC USE 

1459
00:53:58,702 --> 00:54:02,706
AND POSSESSION CRIMES. IT ALSO 

1460
00:54:02,706 --> 00:54:03,239
SPECIFIED THAT DIVERSION, 

1461
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,208
TREATMENT AND OTHER ALTERNATIVES

1462
00:54:05,208 --> 00:54:06,977
TO BOOKING ARE THE PREFERRED 

1463
00:54:06,977 --> 00:54:09,980
APPROACH WHEN ENFORCING THESE 

1464
00:54:09,980 --> 00:54:12,582
CRIMES. IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, 

1465
00:54:12,582 --> 00:54:13,216
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF PROVIDED 

1466
00:54:13,216 --> 00:54:14,551
TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE 

1467
00:54:14,551 --> 00:54:19,289
AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY DRUG 

1468
00:54:19,289 --> 00:54:22,592
ORDINANCE ORDINANCE 126896 AND 

1469
00:54:22,592 --> 00:54:25,395
PRESENTED DATA ON 2024 AND 2025 

1470
00:54:25,395 --> 00:54:27,197
SPD ARRESTS AND DIVERSIONS. IT 

1471
00:54:27,197 --> 00:54:28,765
SHOWED TRENDS IN HOW THE SEATTLE

1472
00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:30,867
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ENFORCING 

1473
00:54:30,867 --> 00:54:33,303
PUBLIC USE AND POSSESSION LAWS. 

1474
00:54:33,303 --> 00:54:36,206
THE DATA SHOWED THAT SPD 

1475
00:54:36,206 --> 00:54:38,141
INCREASED ARRESTS FOR DRUG USE 

1476
00:54:38,141 --> 00:54:40,143
OR POSSESSION CRIMES BY 47%, AND

1477
00:54:40,143 --> 00:54:43,280
DECREASED ITS USE OF LAW 

1478
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:43,913
ENFORCEMENT ASSISTED DIVERSION 

1479
00:54:43,913 --> 00:54:48,551
BY 30% IN THE SAME PERIOD, SPD 

1480
00:54:48,551 --> 00:54:51,321
INCREASED ITS USE BY 56% OF 

1481
00:54:51,321 --> 00:54:53,156
CHARGED BY OFFICER REFERRALS TO 

1482
00:54:53,156 --> 00:54:55,291
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 

1483
00:54:55,291 --> 00:54:56,526
THESE CHARGED BY OFFICER 

1484
00:54:56,526 --> 00:54:59,929
REFERRALS FOR PERSONAL 

1485
00:54:59,929 --> 00:55:01,031
POSSESSION CAN BYPASS JAIL 

1486
00:55:01,031 --> 00:55:02,866
BOOKINGS, BUT IT ALSO. THEY ALSO

1487
00:55:02,866 --> 00:55:05,135
TRANSFER TO THE CEO. THE 

1488
00:55:05,135 --> 00:55:07,737
DECISION TO DIVERT AND DO NOT 

1489
00:55:07,737 --> 00:55:08,271
ALWAYS OFFER INDIVIDUALS 

1490
00:55:08,271 --> 00:55:09,939
IMMEDIATE IN-FIELD ACCESS TO A 

1491
00:55:09,939 --> 00:55:11,474
SET ASSESSMENT, TREATMENT OR 

1492
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:15,278
OTHER SERVICES. CHIEF SHON 

1493
00:55:15,278 --> 00:55:17,480
BARNES AND LEADERS FROM PURPOSE,

1494
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,882
DIGNITY ACTION HAVE INDICATED 

1495
00:55:18,882 --> 00:55:21,951
THAT A LACK OF CAPACITY IN 2025 

1496
00:55:21,951 --> 00:55:24,688
IN PDA'S LEAD PROGRAM MAY HAVE 

1497
00:55:24,688 --> 00:55:26,923
CONTRIBUTED TO THE REDUCTION IN 

1498
00:55:26,923 --> 00:55:30,427
SPD'S USE OF LEAD SERVICES 

1499
00:55:30,427 --> 00:55:32,062
BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025. SO THAT 

1500
00:55:32,062 --> 00:55:34,197
IS BACKGROUND. I'LL MOVE ON TO 

1501
00:55:34,197 --> 00:55:36,132
THE PROVISIONS OF THE BILL 

1502
00:55:36,132 --> 00:55:38,234
COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO,

1503
00:55:38,234 --> 00:55:39,903
FOUR, EIGHT WOULD AMEND THE 

1504
00:55:39,903 --> 00:55:42,706
CITY'S DRUG ORDINANCE TO 

1505
00:55:42,706 --> 00:55:43,406
PRIORITIZE THE USE OF IN 

1506
00:55:43,406 --> 00:55:45,608
PRE-BOOKING DIVERSION THROUGH A 

1507
00:55:45,608 --> 00:55:47,744
DIRECT PERSON TRANSFER OR A WARM

1508
00:55:47,744 --> 00:55:51,414
HANDOFF OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO LEAD

1509
00:55:51,414 --> 00:55:53,983
SERVICE PERSONNEL. THIS CHANGE 

1510
00:55:53,983 --> 00:55:54,517
WOULD NOT PRECLUDE OTHER 

1511
00:55:54,517 --> 00:55:57,353
ALTERNATIVES TO BOOKING, SUCH AS

1512
00:55:57,353 --> 00:55:58,621
A CHARGE BY OFFICER REFERRAL OR 

1513
00:55:58,621 --> 00:56:00,523
AN ARREST AND RELEASE, BUT IT 

1514
00:56:00,523 --> 00:56:03,893
WOULD SET A PREFERENCE, A CITY 

1515
00:56:03,893 --> 00:56:04,494
POLICY PREFERENCE FOR DIRECT 

1516
00:56:04,494 --> 00:56:06,463
HANDOFF TO RECOVERY SERVICE 

1517
00:56:06,463 --> 00:56:09,933
PROVIDERS. THE BILL WOULD ALLOW 

1518
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:11,701
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ADVISORY 

1519
00:56:11,701 --> 00:56:13,203
COMMITTEE THAT WAS CREATED IN 

1520
00:56:13,203 --> 00:56:15,805
THE ORIGINAL DRUG ORDINANCE, BUT

1521
00:56:15,805 --> 00:56:16,406
WAS NEVER ESTABLISHED BY THE 

1522
00:56:16,406 --> 00:56:18,308
EXECUTIVE. THE CHAIR IS 

1523
00:56:18,308 --> 00:56:20,110
CURRENTLY WORKING WITH 

1524
00:56:20,110 --> 00:56:20,643
STAKEHOLDERS TO DETERMINE 

1525
00:56:20,643 --> 00:56:22,145
WHETHER A NEW COMMITTEE SHOULD 

1526
00:56:22,145 --> 00:56:23,780
BE ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE 

1527
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:26,282
OVERSIGHT OF CITYWIDE DRUG 

1528
00:56:26,282 --> 00:56:26,816
POLICIES AND ENFORCEMENT 

1529
00:56:26,816 --> 00:56:28,284
OPERATIONS, DEPENDING ON THE 

1530
00:56:28,284 --> 00:56:30,487
OUTCOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, 

1531
00:56:30,487 --> 00:56:32,422
THE COMMITTEE COULD ADOPT AN 

1532
00:56:32,422 --> 00:56:34,557
AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADD BACK AN

1533
00:56:34,557 --> 00:56:35,191
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND SPECIFY 

1534
00:56:35,191 --> 00:56:37,927
ITS DUTIES AND STAFF 

1535
00:56:37,927 --> 00:56:38,795
ACCORDINGLY. FINALLY, THE BILL 

1536
00:56:38,795 --> 00:56:40,430
WOULD MAKE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO

1537
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:45,568
EXISTING DATA COLLECTION 

1538
00:56:45,568 --> 00:56:46,102
REQUIREMENTS IN ORDINANCE 

1539
00:56:46,102 --> 00:56:49,272
126896. WITH REGARDS TO COST. 

1540
00:56:49,272 --> 00:56:51,574
THIS, THE BILL STATED PREFERENCE

1541
00:56:51,574 --> 00:56:53,576
FOR FIELD BASED DIVERSIONS COULD

1542
00:56:53,576 --> 00:56:56,579
INCREASE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF 

1543
00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:59,115
DIVERSIONS MADE BY SPD OFFICERS.

1544
00:56:59,115 --> 00:56:59,749
THE ADDITIONAL DIVERSIONS WOULD 

1545
00:56:59,749 --> 00:57:00,650
LIKELY CREATE STAFFING AND 

1546
00:57:00,650 --> 00:57:02,652
ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR THE 

1547
00:57:02,652 --> 00:57:04,521
CITY'S CONTRACT WITH LEAD WITH 

1548
00:57:04,521 --> 00:57:08,458
THE LEAD PROGRAM. THESE COSTS 

1549
00:57:08,458 --> 00:57:10,360
CAN'T BE DETERMINED UNTIL IT IS

1550
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,228
KNOWN THAT SPD WILL BE 

1551
00:57:12,228 --> 00:57:14,697
INCREASING ITS USE OF DIVERSION 

1552
00:57:14,697 --> 00:57:15,598
SERVICES. ANY INCREASED COSTS 

1553
00:57:15,598 --> 00:57:17,133
FOR LEAD WOULD NEED TO BE 

1554
00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:20,503
ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE CITY'S

1555
00:57:20,503 --> 00:57:23,873
2020 728 PROPOSED BUDGET REVIEW 

1556
00:57:23,873 --> 00:57:24,941
PROCESS. ALTERNATIVELY, TO THE 

1557
00:57:24,941 --> 00:57:26,709
EXTENT THAT SPD OFFICERS 

1558
00:57:26,709 --> 00:57:28,445
CONTINUE TO USE ALTERNATIVES TO 

1559
00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:31,314
BOOKING, SUCH AS CHARGED BY 

1560
00:57:31,314 --> 00:57:33,650
OFFICERS OR OR ARREST AND 

1561
00:57:33,650 --> 00:57:35,151
RELEASE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S 

1562
00:57:35,151 --> 00:57:38,154
OFFICE MAY HAVE TO FOCUS 

1563
00:57:38,154 --> 00:57:39,923
ADDITIONAL STAFF OR PRETRIAL 

1564
00:57:39,923 --> 00:57:42,625
DIVERSION PROGRAM, WHICH ALSO 

1565
00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:44,327
USES LEAD SERVICES. OTHER 

1566
00:57:44,327 --> 00:57:45,528
ALTERNATIVES TO BOOKING, AGAIN 

1567
00:57:45,528 --> 00:57:46,663
SUCH AS ARREST AND RELEASE, ARE 

1568
00:57:46,663 --> 00:57:49,365
NOT EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGIES 

1569
00:57:49,365 --> 00:57:50,800
THAT REDUCE REOFFENDING, AND IT 

1570
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,102
IS POSSIBLE THAT FEWER INFIELD 

1571
00:57:53,102 --> 00:57:54,838
DIVERSIONS MAY RESULT IN 

1572
00:57:54,838 --> 00:57:56,406
ADDITIONAL ARRESTS OR USE OF THE

1573
00:57:56,406 --> 00:57:58,541
CRIMINAL CITY'S CRIMINAL LEGAL 

1574
00:57:58,541 --> 00:58:00,376
SYSTEM, AND THAT COULD HAVE 

1575
00:58:00,376 --> 00:58:02,011
OTHER DIFFERENT FISCAL IMPACTS. 

1576
00:58:02,011 --> 00:58:03,413
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, 

1577
00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:05,381
AND I'D FINISH BY NOTING THAT 

1578
00:58:05,381 --> 00:58:07,383
THE CHAIR IS PLANNING ON HAVING 

1579
00:58:07,383 --> 00:58:09,519
ANOTHER HEARING ON THIS BILL ON 

1580
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:12,288
JULY 28th, AND IT WILL BE OPEN 

1581
00:58:12,288 --> 00:58:14,924
FOR AMENDMENTS AT THAT TIME. AND

1582
00:58:14,924 --> 00:58:16,426
THE COMMITTEE MAY TAKE A VOTE. 

1583
00:58:16,426 --> 00:58:18,061
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AND I'M

1584
00:58:18,061 --> 00:58:19,362
AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. 

1585
00:58:19,362 --> 00:58:20,697
-- THANK YOU, MR. DOSS. NORMALLY

1586
00:58:20,697 --> 00:58:21,831
I WAIT TILL THE END, BUT I'M 

1587
00:58:21,831 --> 00:58:23,867
GOING TO THIS TIME CHANGE UP AND

1588
00:58:23,867 --> 00:58:24,901
START AT THE BEGINNING. AND 

1589
00:58:24,901 --> 00:58:27,070
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M ALSO

1590
00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:28,705
COLLEAGUES. I'M LOOKING TO HAVE

1591
00:58:28,705 --> 00:58:32,442
A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS FROM LIKE

1592
00:58:32,442 --> 00:58:35,144
PDA LEAD, ALSO HARBORVIEW AND 

1593
00:58:35,144 --> 00:58:38,314
SOME OTHER ENTITIES ON THE 28th.

1594
00:58:38,314 --> 00:58:41,851
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS 

1595
00:58:41,851 --> 00:58:43,753
BILL IS LOOKING TO UPDATE A 

1596
00:58:43,753 --> 00:58:45,688
BILL, WHICH I VIEW AS LARGELY 

1597
00:58:45,688 --> 00:58:49,225
UNSUCCESSFUL, THAT WAS DATED THE

1598
00:58:49,225 --> 00:58:50,493
20th OF SEPTEMBER 2023 BY MY 

1599
00:58:50,493 --> 00:58:53,096
COLLEAGUE TO MY LEFT. BUT THERE 

1600
00:58:53,096 --> 00:58:55,498
WAS CHALLENGES, AND NOW WE HAVE 

1601
00:58:55,498 --> 00:58:57,433
THE PASSAGE OF TIME TO LOOK AT 

1602
00:58:57,433 --> 00:58:58,067
WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON THE 

1603
00:58:58,067 --> 00:59:00,770
GROUND. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES 

1604
00:59:00,770 --> 00:59:02,372
IS, AND WE'VE SEEN THIS AGAIN 

1605
00:59:02,372 --> 00:59:05,008
AND AGAIN. YES, THE COMPASSION 

1606
00:59:05,008 --> 00:59:07,043
TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN 

1607
00:59:07,043 --> 00:59:08,878
CRISIS. BUT DUE TO THE 

1608
00:59:08,878 --> 00:59:11,447
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PUBLIC DRUG

1609
00:59:11,447 --> 00:59:13,316
MARKETS AND THEN ALSO 

1610
00:59:13,316 --> 00:59:14,751
SEPARATELY, THE PUBLIC DRUG USE 

1611
00:59:14,751 --> 00:59:19,422
IS THE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOODS. 

1612
00:59:19,422 --> 00:59:21,791
AND THAT'S BEEN IN SOME PLACES,

1613
00:59:21,791 --> 00:59:23,293
TRAGIC, CATASTROPHIC, DEPENDING 

1614
00:59:23,293 --> 00:59:25,261
ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK 

1615
00:59:25,261 --> 00:59:26,763
IT'S IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE 

1616
00:59:26,763 --> 00:59:28,698
RECITALS NOTES THAT AND THESE 

1617
00:59:28,698 --> 00:59:30,066
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN 

1618
00:59:30,066 --> 00:59:34,938
IMPACTED EXIST THROUGHOUT ALL 

1619
00:59:34,938 --> 00:59:35,939
SEVEN DISTRICTS. AND AGAIN, I 

1620
00:59:35,939 --> 00:59:38,608
THINK WE ALL KNOW THOSE WHERE 

1621
00:59:38,608 --> 00:59:41,911
THEY'RE LOCATED ALSO EARLIER 

1622
00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:42,579
THIS YEAR. AND THIS IS TIED, IT 

1623
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:44,614
WAS KIND OF A SETUP. WE HAD AN 

1624
00:59:44,614 --> 00:59:47,183
OIG REPORT AND BRIEFING TO 

1625
00:59:47,183 --> 00:59:48,251
COMMITTEE. AND ON THIS TOPIC, 

1626
00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:50,787
BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY PROVIDE 

1627
00:59:50,787 --> 00:59:53,723
ANYTHING BECAUSE OIG WAS NEVER 

1628
00:59:53,723 --> 00:59:55,491
ABLE TO BASICALLY INVESTIGATE 

1629
00:59:55,491 --> 00:59:57,794
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DATA. AND 

1630
00:59:57,794 --> 01:00:00,430
THAT WAS A PROBLEM. SO ONE OF 

1631
01:00:00,430 --> 01:00:01,831
THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE WITH

1632
01:00:01,831 --> 01:00:05,668
THIS BILL IS THE GENERATION OF 

1633
01:00:05,668 --> 01:00:07,637
DATA FROM MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS, 

1634
01:00:07,637 --> 01:00:09,639
BECAUSE WE NEED TO ASCERTAIN 

1635
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:11,140
WHAT IS GOING ON AND FIX WHAT IS

1636
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:12,709
HAPPENING. ONE OF THE THINGS 

1637
01:00:12,709 --> 01:00:13,977
THEY DID SAY THOUGH, AT THE END,

1638
01:00:13,977 --> 01:00:15,211
BECAUSE THEY DID INTERVIEWS AND 

1639
01:00:15,211 --> 01:00:18,047
WAS AT THE TOWARDS THE END OF 

1640
01:00:18,047 --> 01:00:20,149
THE OIG REPORT, WAS THAT 

1641
01:00:20,149 --> 01:00:20,783
INDIVIDUALS WERE NOTING THAT THE

1642
01:00:20,783 --> 01:00:22,251
OFFICERS WERE BASICALLY SAYING, 

1643
01:00:22,251 --> 01:00:26,789
MOVE ALONG OR DOING NOTHING. 

1644
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:27,824
THAT'S NOT A GOOD ANSWER FOR 

1645
01:00:27,824 --> 01:00:30,093
OUR CITY. IT'S NOT A GOOD ANSWER

1646
01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:30,827
FOR ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN 

1647
01:00:30,827 --> 01:00:34,831
CRISIS. WE NEED TO BE DOING 

1648
01:00:34,831 --> 01:00:36,499
DIVERSION AND DOING DIVERSION, 

1649
01:00:36,499 --> 01:00:38,968
RIGHT? AS SEEN WITH THE 

1650
01:00:38,968 --> 01:00:40,770
TESTIMONY TODAY. AND FOR THOSE 

1651
01:00:40,770 --> 01:00:41,371
INSTANCES, PARTICULARLY THOSE 

1652
01:00:41,371 --> 01:00:42,205
THAT ARE WORKING IN THE DRUG 

1653
01:00:42,205 --> 01:00:44,240
MARKET THAT ARE FUNCTIONING, YOU

1654
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,708
KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, UNDER, 

1655
01:00:45,708 --> 01:00:47,810
UNDER TAKE THE FUNCTIONING OF 

1656
01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:50,213
THE MARKET AND SOME OTHER CO 

1657
01:00:50,213 --> 01:00:52,015
OCCURRING CRIMES AND THE LIKE 

1658
01:00:52,015 --> 01:00:57,587
SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL. BUT 

1659
01:00:57,587 --> 01:00:58,788
HERE'S THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM

1660
01:00:58,788 --> 01:01:00,556
LIES IN THE FACT THAT THE 

1661
01:01:00,556 --> 01:01:02,425
OFFICERS ON THE STREET DON'T 

1662
01:01:02,425 --> 01:01:04,127
HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE 

1663
01:01:04,127 --> 01:01:05,628
PDA LEAD PROGRAM. SO THIS IS 

1664
01:01:05,628 --> 01:01:07,263
SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO 

1665
01:01:07,263 --> 01:01:08,131
ADDRESS. AND THIS BILL IS A 

1666
01:01:08,131 --> 01:01:09,799
START IN THAT THEY ALSO DON'T 

1667
01:01:09,799 --> 01:01:13,403
HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN CASEY J. 

1668
01:01:13,403 --> 01:01:15,605
KING COUNTY JAIL KCJ HEALTH WITH

1669
01:01:15,605 --> 01:01:18,007
THE MEDICAL DECLINES AND THAT 

1670
01:01:18,007 --> 01:01:19,509
THAT POINT IS ALSO IN THIS BILL.

1671
01:01:19,509 --> 01:01:21,210
AND IT ALSO GOES TO THE DATA 

1672
01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:23,179
POINT. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS 

1673
01:01:23,179 --> 01:01:24,280
THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING 

1674
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,182
TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE GROUND, 

1675
01:01:26,182 --> 01:01:28,418
WE NEED TO STEP FORWARD. AND 

1676
01:01:28,418 --> 01:01:30,920
THIS BILL IS A STEP TO DO THAT. 

1677
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,622
IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT'S 

1678
01:01:32,622 --> 01:01:34,557
HAPPENED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, 

1679
01:01:34,557 --> 01:01:35,925
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DON'T HAVE 

1680
01:01:35,925 --> 01:01:38,961
ANY DATA TO REALLY MAKE GOOD 

1681
01:01:38,961 --> 01:01:41,697
DECISIONS, TO LOOK TO IMPROVE 

1682
01:01:41,697 --> 01:01:44,300
THE DIVERSION OPTIONS AND 

1683
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:46,569
OPPORTUNITIES. BUT THEN WHEN 

1684
01:01:46,569 --> 01:01:47,804
NEEDED AGAIN, FOR OUR CITY AND 

1685
01:01:47,804 --> 01:01:48,838
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THE JAIL AND 

1686
01:01:48,838 --> 01:01:50,273
THEN THE JAIL HAS ITS OWN 

1687
01:01:50,273 --> 01:01:52,875
ISSUES. AND THESE ISSUES ARE 

1688
01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:53,876
IMPACTING FAR AND WIDE. IT'S 

1689
01:01:53,876 --> 01:01:56,279
IMPACTING HARBORVIEW. HARBORVIEW

1690
01:01:56,279 --> 01:01:58,081
HOSPITAL IS IMPACTED BY THE 

1691
01:01:58,081 --> 01:02:00,049
MEDICAL DECLINES AT CASEY J. AND

1692
01:02:00,049 --> 01:02:04,520
THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND TO TO SUM

1693
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,788
UP AND TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR 

1694
01:02:05,788 --> 01:02:07,690
STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN, 

1695
01:02:07,690 --> 01:02:10,560
CLEARLY, ONE OF THE PILLARS IS A

1696
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,127
FUNCTIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE 

1697
01:02:11,127 --> 01:02:15,631
SYSTEM THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF 

1698
01:02:15,631 --> 01:02:16,933
BUMPS IN HICCUPS IN THIS PART OF

1699
01:02:16,933 --> 01:02:18,201
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND

1700
01:02:18,201 --> 01:02:21,771
THIS BILL IS LOOKING TO ADDRESS 

1701
01:02:21,771 --> 01:02:23,005
THOSE. AND SECONDLY, IS TO 

1702
01:02:23,005 --> 01:02:23,973
ADDRESS THE SEAM, AS I SAID, 

1703
01:02:23,973 --> 01:02:25,274
BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC

1704
01:02:25,274 --> 01:02:27,443
HEALTH, HOUSING AND HUMAN 

1705
01:02:27,443 --> 01:02:28,845
SERVICES, AND IN THIS CASE, 

1706
01:02:28,845 --> 01:02:33,716
HUMAN SERVICES. AND SO THESE ARE

1707
01:02:33,716 --> 01:02:34,417
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO

1708
01:02:34,417 --> 01:02:35,351
DO. AND THIS BUILDS ON THE WORK 

1709
01:02:35,351 --> 01:02:38,087
THAT WE'VE DONE ALREADY IN THESE

1710
01:02:38,087 --> 01:02:40,723
AREAS TO INCLUDE BRINGING PD AYE

1711
01:02:40,723 --> 01:02:43,059
LEAD FROM HSD HUMAN SERVICES 

1712
01:02:43,059 --> 01:02:44,460
DEPARTMENT OVER TO THE CARE 

1713
01:02:44,460 --> 01:02:45,995
DEPARTMENT. THIS BILL BUILDS ON 

1714
01:02:45,995 --> 01:02:49,031
THE RECENTLY COMPLETED CARE 

1715
01:02:49,031 --> 01:02:51,968
UPDATED BILL. AND AGAIN, THIS IS

1716
01:02:51,968 --> 01:02:52,635
THE INTENT AND SOME OF THE 

1717
01:02:52,635 --> 01:02:54,704
PIECES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO

1718
01:02:54,704 --> 01:02:56,239
WITH THESE THESE BILLS. SO WITH 

1719
01:02:56,239 --> 01:02:59,408
THAT, COLLEAGUES, I WILL GO TO 

1720
01:02:59,408 --> 01:03:02,211
MY VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, SAKA.

1721
01:03:02,211 --> 01:03:04,881
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU 

1722
01:03:04,881 --> 01:03:08,851
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. 

1723
01:03:08,851 --> 01:03:11,454
EXCUSE ME. I'VE I'M STILL 

1724
01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:14,090
WORKING MY WAY THROUGH THE 

1725
01:03:14,090 --> 01:03:16,092
LEGISLATION AND THE CENTRAL 

1726
01:03:16,092 --> 01:03:19,395
STAFF ANALYSIS MEMO. THANK YOU, 

1727
01:03:19,395 --> 01:03:22,365
MR. DOSS, FOR FOR SHARING THAT 

1728
01:03:22,365 --> 01:03:29,172
OUT AT A FIRST BLUSH, SEEMS TO 

1729
01:03:29,172 --> 01:03:30,907
BE THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION AND 

1730
01:03:30,907 --> 01:03:33,142
REVISIONS HERE SEEM TO BE PRETTY

1731
01:03:33,142 --> 01:03:36,179
RATIONAL. MAKE SENSE? FROM MY 

1732
01:03:36,179 --> 01:03:42,318
PERSPECTIVE, KIND OF MODERNIZING

1733
01:03:42,318 --> 01:03:43,786
THE LEGISLATION TO. A LOT HAS 

1734
01:03:43,786 --> 01:03:44,921
HAPPENED IN THE INTERVENING 

1735
01:03:44,921 --> 01:03:46,155
THREE YEARS, AS WAS NOTED, 

1736
01:03:46,155 --> 01:03:48,324
INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL. BILL 

1737
01:03:48,324 --> 01:03:50,526
CONTEMPLATES A THEN UNSCALED 

1738
01:03:50,526 --> 01:03:51,627
CARE TEAM. WELL, NOW WE. SINCE 

1739
01:03:51,627 --> 01:03:53,696
AT LEAST WE'VE BEEN IN OFFICE 

1740
01:03:53,696 --> 01:03:55,097
FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, TWO AND 

1741
01:03:55,097 --> 01:03:56,566
A HALF YEARS, WE WERE ABLE TO 

1742
01:03:56,566 --> 01:04:01,404
GROW AND SCALE OUR CRISIS CARE 

1743
01:04:01,404 --> 01:04:02,905
DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 

1744
01:04:02,905 --> 01:04:04,307
SPECIALISTS, SOCIAL WORKERS AND 

1745
01:04:04,307 --> 01:04:07,443
THE LIKE TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE 

1746
01:04:07,443 --> 01:04:09,912
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES ACROSS THE

1747
01:04:09,912 --> 01:04:10,880
CITY FROM, JUST FROM. AND IT 

1748
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,248
STARTED WHEN WE WERE IN OFFICE 

1749
01:04:12,248 --> 01:04:15,418
FROM A DOWNTOWN PILOT OPERATING 

1750
01:04:15,418 --> 01:04:18,187
IN A LIMITED NUMBER OF DAYS, 

1751
01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:19,155
LIMITED NUMBER OF HOURS DURING 

1752
01:04:19,155 --> 01:04:21,991
THE WEEK. AND WE SCALED IT 

1753
01:04:21,991 --> 01:04:24,293
CITYWIDE AND INCLUDING IN MY 

1754
01:04:24,293 --> 01:04:27,230
DISTRICT IN WEST SEATTLE. SO 

1755
01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:32,168
AGAIN, AT INITIAL READ OF THE 

1756
01:04:32,168 --> 01:04:34,804
REVISIONS HERE SEEMS TO MAKE 

1757
01:04:34,804 --> 01:04:36,639
SENSE. BUT MY FIRST QUESTION, 

1758
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:38,140
MAYBE I'LL ASK THIS OF BOTH THE

1759
01:04:38,140 --> 01:04:43,312
CHAIR AND MR. DOSS, CAN YOU HELP

1760
01:04:43,312 --> 01:04:46,048
BETTER HELP ME BETTER UNDERSTAND

1761
01:04:46,048 --> 01:04:50,887
THE SORT OF THE THE, THE PURPOSE

1762
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:53,556
AND GOAL HERE WITH THIS 

1763
01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:56,659
LEGISLATION. WHAT SPECIFIC 

1764
01:04:56,659 --> 01:04:59,495
PROBLEM OUTSIDE OF LIKE 

1765
01:04:59,495 --> 01:05:02,198
CLARIFICATION MODERNIZATION 

1766
01:05:02,198 --> 01:05:05,801
TWEAKS. WHAT SPECIFIC PROBLEM 

1767
01:05:05,801 --> 01:05:11,574
DOES THIS SEEK TO RESOLVE 

1768
01:05:11,574 --> 01:05:12,508
-- I WOULD SAY AS A LEAD IN FOR 

1769
01:05:12,508 --> 01:05:14,076
MR. DOSS, IS THAT THE CURRENT 

1770
01:05:14,076 --> 01:05:16,512
PUBLIC DRUG USE AND POSSESSION 

1771
01:05:16,512 --> 01:05:18,514
BILL LAW AND ITS EXECUTION IS A 

1772
01:05:18,514 --> 01:05:19,482
FAILURE FOR THE CITY. SO I'LL 

1773
01:05:19,482 --> 01:05:23,686
START WITH THAT. MR. DOSS 

1774
01:05:23,686 --> 01:05:26,188
-- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO IT 

1775
01:05:26,188 --> 01:05:28,424
REALLY HAS TO DO WITH CHANGING 

1776
01:05:28,424 --> 01:05:30,826
THE WAY THAT DRUGS ARE ENFORCED 

1777
01:05:30,826 --> 01:05:33,896
IN THE CITY BY SPD. THE PRIOR 

1778
01:05:33,896 --> 01:05:35,665
COUNCIL ORDINANCE, THE DRUG 

1779
01:05:35,665 --> 01:05:37,066
ORDINANCE SET A PREFERENCE FOR 

1780
01:05:37,066 --> 01:05:38,901
SORT OF ANYTHING THAT WASN'T A 

1781
01:05:38,901 --> 01:05:40,636
JAIL BOOKING, ANYTHING THAT 

1782
01:05:40,636 --> 01:05:42,238
WASN'T GOING TO BRING PEOPLE 

1783
01:05:42,238 --> 01:05:44,707
INTO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM. 

1784
01:05:44,707 --> 01:05:48,678
AND DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT 

1785
01:05:48,678 --> 01:05:51,747
DIVERSION, FIELD BASED DIVERSION

1786
01:05:51,747 --> 01:05:52,214
SPECIFICALLY, WAS THE 

1787
01:05:52,214 --> 01:05:53,616
PREFERENCE. THE PREFERENCE, 

1788
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:56,719
AGAIN, JUST DIVERSION SERVICES. 

1789
01:05:56,719 --> 01:05:58,354
ANY ALTERNATIVES TO ARREST, 

1790
01:05:58,354 --> 01:06:02,658
ARREST OR RELEASE THE THE SPD 

1791
01:06:02,658 --> 01:06:04,026
HAD SORT OF A WIDE MENU TO 

1792
01:06:04,026 --> 01:06:07,029
CHOOSE FROM, BUT THE OVERALL 

1793
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:08,097
MESSAGE IN THE DRUG ORDINANCE IS

1794
01:06:08,097 --> 01:06:09,632
AGAINST JAIL BOOKING AND 

1795
01:06:09,632 --> 01:06:12,535
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM 

1796
01:06:12,535 --> 01:06:14,470
INVOLVEMENT. CONSEQUENTLY, WHEN 

1797
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:17,373
SPD BEGAN ENFORCING, THEY DID SO

1798
01:06:17,373 --> 01:06:20,309
IN A WAY THAT UTILIZED ARREST 

1799
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:21,978
AND RELEASE UTILIZES. CHARGED BY

1800
01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,313
OFFICER, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A 

1801
01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:25,948
TICKET THAT THEY GIVE TO A 

1802
01:06:25,948 --> 01:06:29,618
PERSON WHO IS USING. AND THEN 

1803
01:06:29,618 --> 01:06:34,190
THEY WALK AWAY. THE CITY 

1804
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:34,857
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS NOTIFIED, 

1805
01:06:34,857 --> 01:06:36,826
AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S 

1806
01:06:36,826 --> 01:06:39,628
OFFICE HAS TO MAKE A DECISION 

1807
01:06:39,628 --> 01:06:41,664
ABOUT WHETHER THAT INDIVIDUAL 

1808
01:06:41,664 --> 01:06:42,665
GETS DIVERTED. THE CHALLENGE 

1809
01:06:42,665 --> 01:06:43,733
WITH THAT IS, IS THAT THE CITY 

1810
01:06:43,733 --> 01:06:45,935
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ONCE THEY 

1811
01:06:45,935 --> 01:06:47,603
TURN INFORMATION OVER TO LEAD, 

1812
01:06:47,603 --> 01:06:50,005
IF THEY WISH TO HAVE A PERSON 

1813
01:06:50,005 --> 01:06:52,708
DIVERTED, THEY HAVE TO FIND THAT

1814
01:06:52,708 --> 01:06:55,111
PERSON AND THEIR SUCCESS RATE IN

1815
01:06:55,111 --> 01:06:56,846
FINDING THOSE FOLKS ON THE 

1816
01:06:56,846 --> 01:06:58,414
STREET. ONCE THEY'RE NOT IN THE

1817
01:06:58,414 --> 01:07:01,984
CUSTODY OF SPD, IS IS QUITE LOW.

1818
01:07:01,984 --> 01:07:04,453
HOWEVER, WHEN SPD HAS SOMEONE IN

1819
01:07:04,453 --> 01:07:09,825
CUSTODY UNDER ARREST, A 

1820
01:07:09,825 --> 01:07:12,128
TRANSFER, A WARM HANDOFF BY THE 

1821
01:07:12,128 --> 01:07:14,230
OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO A LEAD 

1822
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:16,399
COUNSELOR THAT HAS A MUCH HIGHER

1823
01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:18,234
SUCCESS RATE OF ENROLLING FOLKS 

1824
01:07:18,234 --> 01:07:19,702
IN THE PROGRAM, AND FOLKS 

1825
01:07:19,702 --> 01:07:21,437
AGREEING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 

1826
01:07:21,437 --> 01:07:23,205
PROGRAM. SO I THINK THE PURPOSE,

1827
01:07:23,205 --> 01:07:25,641
THE PROBLEM THAT IT'S TRYING TO

1828
01:07:25,641 --> 01:07:30,813
SOLVE IS THAT THE CITY IS THE 

1829
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:33,249
CITY IS USING ALTERNATIVES TO 

1830
01:07:33,249 --> 01:07:35,184
ARREST, BUT THOSE ALTERNATIVES 

1831
01:07:35,184 --> 01:07:37,219
TO ARREST ARE NOT EVIDENCE 

1832
01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:39,855
BASED, TO PRODUCE, TO REDUCE 

1833
01:07:39,855 --> 01:07:42,858
RECIDIVISM IN THE WAY LEAD IS. 

1834
01:07:42,858 --> 01:07:45,494
AND SO THE THE SOLUTION IS TO 

1835
01:07:45,494 --> 01:07:48,431
SET A CITY PREFERENCE FOR A 

1836
01:07:48,431 --> 01:07:57,406
PROGRAM THAT HAS PROVEN SUCCESS.

1837
01:07:57,406 --> 01:08:00,609
-- THANK YOU SO. THAT MAKES 

1838
01:08:00,609 --> 01:08:02,745
SENSE. SO SETTING THAT 

1839
01:08:02,745 --> 01:08:03,379
CODIFYING. WE'RE NOT SETTING 

1840
01:08:03,379 --> 01:08:04,847
THAT. WE'RE CODIFYING THAT 

1841
01:08:04,847 --> 01:08:06,449
PREFERENCE AT THE AT THE 

1842
01:08:06,449 --> 01:08:08,551
LEGISLATION LEVEL. AND AND 

1843
01:08:08,551 --> 01:08:12,755
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE 

1844
01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:14,657
EXECUTIVE. WELL, AS THE CHAIR 

1845
01:08:14,657 --> 01:08:17,426
APTLY NOTED BOTH IN CHAIR'S 

1846
01:08:17,426 --> 01:08:21,130
COMMENTS AND A MOMENT AGO, LIKE 

1847
01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:21,764
THIS IS THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH 

1848
01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,766
OF GOVERNMENT. WE WRITE THE 

1849
01:08:23,766 --> 01:08:30,206
LAWS, WE PASS LAWS. WE, UNDER 

1850
01:08:30,206 --> 01:08:30,739
OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM OF 

1851
01:08:30,739 --> 01:08:33,075
GOVERNMENT AND CHARTER, WE DO 

1852
01:08:33,075 --> 01:08:34,577
NOT AT ALL ENFORCE LAWS. WE ARE 

1853
01:08:34,577 --> 01:08:36,512
NOT EMPOWERED TO ENFORCE LAWS. 

1854
01:08:36,512 --> 01:08:37,246
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, YOU 

1855
01:08:37,246 --> 01:08:39,348
KNOW, AS PART OF THE ENFORCEMENT

1856
01:08:39,348 --> 01:08:41,383
PREROGATIVES AND POWERS OF THE 

1857
01:08:41,383 --> 01:08:42,952
EXECUTIVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE 

1858
01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:46,055
FRAMEWORK THAT IS NOW BEING 

1859
01:08:46,055 --> 01:08:51,827
CODIFIED IS ESSENTIALLY BEING 

1860
01:08:51,827 --> 01:08:52,862
IMPLEMENTED AND EXECUTED, YOU 

1861
01:08:52,862 --> 01:08:55,998
KNOW, ROUGHLY IN LINE WITH THE 

1862
01:08:55,998 --> 01:08:58,667
FRAMEWORK IS THAT IS THAT 

1863
01:08:58,667 --> 01:09:00,469
CURRENTLY TRUE TO YOUR BEST OF 

1864
01:09:00,469 --> 01:09:03,072
YOUR KNOWLEDGE, MR. DOSS, OR IS 

1865
01:09:03,072 --> 01:09:07,443
MY UNDERSTANDING OFTEN ANYWAY. 

1866
01:09:07,443 --> 01:09:10,179
-- IT IS TRUE THAT THE SPD HAS 

1867
01:09:10,179 --> 01:09:11,413
ADOPTED POLICIES THAT REFLECT 

1868
01:09:11,413 --> 01:09:14,049
THE CITY'S DRUG ORDINANCE AS 

1869
01:09:14,049 --> 01:09:16,352
PASSED IN 2023, AND THAT THOSE 

1870
01:09:16,352 --> 01:09:18,420
POLICIES DO ALLOW FOR OTHER 

1871
01:09:18,420 --> 01:09:19,989
ALTERNATIVES TO BOOKING SUCH AS 

1872
01:09:19,989 --> 01:09:22,424
CHARGE BY OFFICER. AND SO THE 

1873
01:09:22,424 --> 01:09:28,097
SPD HAS POLICIES THAT THAT THAT 

1874
01:09:28,097 --> 01:09:29,298
SAY THAT THERE'S A PREFERENCE 

1875
01:09:29,298 --> 01:09:32,034
FOR DIVERSION, BUT THEY ALSO 

1876
01:09:32,034 --> 01:09:34,236
ALLOW FOR THEY ALSO ALLOW FOR 

1877
01:09:34,236 --> 01:09:36,805
OTHER KINDS OF ALTERNATIVES TO 

1878
01:09:36,805 --> 01:09:39,475
ARREST. AND SO THOSE POLICIES 

1879
01:09:39,475 --> 01:09:42,211
THAT WERE ADOPTED IN 2023 ARE 

1880
01:09:42,211 --> 01:09:44,747
BEING EFFECTUATED AND 

1881
01:09:44,747 --> 01:09:49,785
IMPLEMENTED BY OFFICERS 

1882
01:09:49,785 --> 01:09:52,087
ACCORDINGLY AND ACCURATELY. THIS

1883
01:09:52,087 --> 01:09:54,823
BILL WOULD SET A STRONGER 

1884
01:09:54,823 --> 01:09:57,526
PREFERENCE FOR INFIELD TRANSFER 

1885
01:09:57,526 --> 01:09:58,627
OF OF INDIVIDUALS. AND SO IT 

1886
01:09:58,627 --> 01:10:02,598
WOULD ALSO ASK SPD TO ADOPT NEW 

1887
01:10:02,598 --> 01:10:05,668
POLICIES THAT SET A POLICY FOR 

1888
01:10:05,668 --> 01:10:08,637
INFIELD TRANSFER. AND IDEALLY, 

1889
01:10:08,637 --> 01:10:09,838
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD 

1890
01:10:09,838 --> 01:10:12,508
TRAIN THEIR FOLKS ON THESE 

1891
01:10:12,508 --> 01:10:14,977
POLICIES AND WOULD PERFORM MORE 

1892
01:10:14,977 --> 01:10:15,611
INFIELD TRANSFERS RATHER THAN, 

1893
01:10:15,611 --> 01:10:17,746
SAY, ARREST AND RELEASE. 

1894
01:10:17,746 --> 01:10:21,317
-- GOT IT. THAT SORT OF WARM 

1895
01:10:21,317 --> 01:10:22,851
HAND. OKAY, NO, THAT MAKES 

1896
01:10:22,851 --> 01:10:25,721
SENSE. AND EVEN IF THIS THE 

1897
01:10:25,721 --> 01:10:29,525
EXECUTIVE IS ALREADY 

1898
01:10:29,525 --> 01:10:33,495
IMPLEMENTING OPERATIONALIZING 

1899
01:10:33,495 --> 01:10:34,096
CERTAIN LAWS SUBSTANTIALLY IN 

1900
01:10:34,096 --> 01:10:37,700
LINE WITH ANY PROPOSED, YOU 

1901
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:40,803
KNOW, LEGISLATIVE REVISION OR, 

1902
01:10:40,803 --> 01:10:44,540
YOU KNOW, FIX, THERE'S STILL 

1903
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:47,076
PERFECTLY VALID REASONS TO 

1904
01:10:47,076 --> 01:10:49,244
CODIFY THOSE PRACTICES AT THE 

1905
01:10:49,244 --> 01:10:52,047
THOSE INTERNAL POLICIES OR 

1906
01:10:52,047 --> 01:10:53,916
EXECUTIVE PREFERENCES AND 

1907
01:10:53,916 --> 01:10:55,050
PERFECTLY VALID REASONS TO 

1908
01:10:55,050 --> 01:10:57,853
CODIFY THOSE, BECAUSE IT ENSURES

1909
01:10:57,853 --> 01:11:02,992
THAT, WELL, IT MAKES IT MORE 

1910
01:11:02,992 --> 01:11:03,592
DURABLE BECAUSE ANY EXECUTIVE 

1911
01:11:03,592 --> 01:11:05,394
HAS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TO, TO 

1912
01:11:05,394 --> 01:11:09,298
DETERMINE HOW. AND AS WE LEARN 

1913
01:11:09,298 --> 01:11:10,799
IF TO ENFORCE SPECIFIC LAWS AND 

1914
01:11:10,799 --> 01:11:13,269
OR AT LEAST PRIORITIZE THEM. SO 

1915
01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:15,137
PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE IN, IN 

1916
01:11:15,137 --> 01:11:17,706
JUSTIFIABLE REASONS TO CODIFY 

1917
01:11:17,706 --> 01:11:19,174
THOSE PRACTICES, EVEN THOSE 

1918
01:11:19,174 --> 01:11:20,676
PRACTICES, EVEN IF THEY ARE 

1919
01:11:20,676 --> 01:11:22,711
SUBSTANTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN LINE

1920
01:11:22,711 --> 01:11:25,581
WITH KIND OF HOW THEY ARE TODAY.

1921
01:11:25,581 --> 01:11:28,617
THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE FINAL 

1922
01:11:28,617 --> 01:11:30,819
MORE. THAT WAS A KIND OF SERIES 

1923
01:11:30,819 --> 01:11:31,920
OF HIGHER LEVEL QUESTIONS. ONE 

1924
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,122
KIND OF SPECIFIC, MORE TECHNICAL

1925
01:11:33,122 --> 01:11:35,257
QUESTION. AND THE SECTION, THE 

1926
01:11:35,257 --> 01:11:40,029
REVISED SECTION ONE. I THINK 

1927
01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:43,032
IT'S ONE. YEAH. REVISED SECTION

1928
01:11:43,032 --> 01:11:48,270
ONE. E WITH THE HEADING A 

1929
01:11:48,270 --> 01:11:48,804
DIVERSION OF THE PROPOSED 

1930
01:11:48,804 --> 01:11:53,208
LEGISLATION. IT SPEAKS TO FIELD 

1931
01:11:53,208 --> 01:11:53,842
BASED PRE-BOOKING THAT IT TALKS 

1932
01:11:53,842 --> 01:11:55,544
ABOUT THE WARM HANDOFF TO 

1933
01:11:55,544 --> 01:11:58,614
RECOVERY SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO 

1934
01:11:58,614 --> 01:11:59,448
UTILIZE THE THE QUOTE, THE 

1935
01:11:59,448 --> 01:12:05,554
CITY'S LAW ENFORCEMENT 

1936
01:12:05,554 --> 01:12:07,089
DIVERSION FRAMEWORK. IS THAT A 

1937
01:12:07,089 --> 01:12:11,093
DEFINED TERM SOMEWHERE UNDER 

1938
01:12:11,093 --> 01:12:15,531
THIS UNDER THIS LEGISLATION OUR 

1939
01:12:15,531 --> 01:12:17,766
FUTURE BODIES, EXECUTIVES, 

1940
01:12:17,766 --> 01:12:19,968
COURTS TO. TO UNDERSTAND WHAT 

1941
01:12:19,968 --> 01:12:24,406
WHAT THE CITY'S LAW ENFORCEMENT

1942
01:12:24,406 --> 01:12:25,808
DIVERSION FRAMEWORK IS. 

1943
01:12:25,808 --> 01:12:28,711
-- YEAH. THANK YOU, 

1944
01:12:28,711 --> 01:12:31,213
COUNCILMEMBER. THE TERM RECOVERY

1945
01:12:31,213 --> 01:12:33,382
RECOVERY SERVICE PROVIDER IS NOT

1946
01:12:33,382 --> 01:12:34,917
DEFINED IN THIS LEGISLATION. 

1947
01:12:34,917 --> 01:12:36,719
IT'S ALSO NOT DEFINED IN A 

1948
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:37,419
SINGLE AUTHORITATIVE FEDERAL, 

1949
01:12:37,419 --> 01:12:40,489
STATE OR LOCAL STATUTE. HOWEVER,

1950
01:12:40,489 --> 01:12:42,024
SAMHSA, THE FEDERAL SUBSTANCE 

1951
01:12:42,024 --> 01:12:43,792
ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES

1952
01:12:43,792 --> 01:12:45,928
ORGANIZATION, DEFINES RECOVERY 

1953
01:12:45,928 --> 01:12:49,031
AT A FEDERAL LEVEL IN A WAY THAT

1954
01:12:49,031 --> 01:12:49,631
LIKELY CAPTURES THE RECOVERY 

1955
01:12:49,631 --> 01:12:53,035
BASED SERVICES PERFORMED BY 

1956
01:12:53,035 --> 01:12:53,669
EVERGREEN TREATMENT SERVICES, OR

1957
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:55,371
REACH WHEN THEY'RE EXECUTING 

1958
01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:57,673
THEIR LEAD PROGRAM. 

1959
01:12:57,673 --> 01:12:59,007
ADDITIONALLY, THE R C, W HAS A 

1960
01:12:59,007 --> 01:13:01,910
DEFINITION FOR RECOVERY 

1961
01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:03,912
NAVIGATOR PROGRAMS, AND IT 

1962
01:13:03,912 --> 01:13:06,815
MANDATES THAT THE STATE FUND 

1963
01:13:06,815 --> 01:13:07,449
SUCH RECOVERY NAVIGATOR PROGRAMS

1964
01:13:07,449 --> 01:13:10,686
AND EVERGREEN TREATMENT CENTER 

1965
01:13:10,686 --> 01:13:11,987
IS THE STATE'S RECOVERY 

1966
01:13:11,987 --> 01:13:14,156
NAVIGATOR PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF

1967
01:13:14,156 --> 01:13:17,126
SEATTLE. SO THERE'S GOOD REASON

1968
01:13:17,126 --> 01:13:20,262
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT LEAD 

1969
01:13:20,262 --> 01:13:21,997
SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY 

1970
01:13:21,997 --> 01:13:22,631
EVERGREEN TREATMENT SERVICE AND 

1971
01:13:22,631 --> 01:13:26,034
REACH UNDER THE PDA ARE RECOVERY

1972
01:13:26,034 --> 01:13:28,137
SERVICES. ALTHOUGH THE COUNCIL 

1973
01:13:28,137 --> 01:13:30,873
COULD CHOOSE TO DEFINE IT 

1974
01:13:30,873 --> 01:13:32,608
FURTHER IF THEY SO WANTED. IF 

1975
01:13:32,608 --> 01:13:37,079
YOU SO WANTED THE THE ONE 

1976
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:39,381
CAUTIONARY NOTE ON ON DEFINING 

1977
01:13:39,381 --> 01:13:41,417
IT FURTHER IS THAT THIS IS A 

1978
01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:44,119
VERY GENERAL DESCRIPTION. 

1979
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:47,022
RECOVERY SERVICES. DEFINING IT 

1980
01:13:47,022 --> 01:13:49,925
FURTHER MIGHT CREATE A BARRIER 

1981
01:13:49,925 --> 01:13:53,262
FOR OTHERS TO. FOR OTHERS TO GET

1982
01:13:53,262 --> 01:13:56,465
INTO FIELD BASED RECOVERY 

1983
01:13:56,465 --> 01:13:58,934
SERVICES. CURRENTLY, THE STATE 

1984
01:13:58,934 --> 01:14:02,137
LAW DOES DEFINE ELEMENTS OF A 

1985
01:14:02,137 --> 01:14:04,573
LEAD PROGRAM AND ONLY. AT THIS 

1986
01:14:04,573 --> 01:14:08,076
POINT IN TIME, EVERGREEN 

1987
01:14:08,076 --> 01:14:08,677
TREATMENT SERVICES AND REACH 

1988
01:14:08,677 --> 01:14:10,779
QUALIFY UNDER THAT. BUT OTHER 

1989
01:14:10,779 --> 01:14:13,081
PROVIDERS, IF THEY DECIDED TO 

1990
01:14:13,081 --> 01:14:15,884
LAUNCH A FIELD BASED PROGRAM 

1991
01:14:15,884 --> 01:14:16,919
THAT THAT MET THE QUALIFICATIONS

1992
01:14:16,919 --> 01:14:19,788
OF THE R, C, W UNDER THIS 

1993
01:14:19,788 --> 01:14:21,890
STATUTE, UNDER THE BILL COULD BE

1994
01:14:21,890 --> 01:14:23,759
SEEN AS RECOVERY SERVICE 

1995
01:14:23,759 --> 01:14:24,760
PROVIDERS. SO IT'S TALKING 

1996
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,862
ABOUT IT IN A GENERAL WAY. WE 

1997
01:14:26,862 --> 01:14:28,931
ONLY HAVE ONE PROVIDER RIGHT NOW

1998
01:14:28,931 --> 01:14:32,835
THAT MEETS THAT DESCRIPTION. BUT

1999
01:14:32,835 --> 01:14:33,368
BECAUSE IT'S A GENERAL 

2000
01:14:33,368 --> 01:14:34,570
DESCRIPTION, OTHER PROVIDERS 

2001
01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:35,571
THAT SORT OF, IF YOU WILL GET 

2002
01:14:35,571 --> 01:14:39,441
INTO THE BUSINESS LATER ON, 

2003
01:14:39,441 --> 01:14:41,710
COULD MEET THAT DEFINITION. 

2004
01:14:41,710 --> 01:14:42,744
-- THANK YOU. AS A AS A TRAINED 

2005
01:14:42,744 --> 01:14:44,079
LAWYER, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN 

2006
01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:46,949
TRAINED TO SORT OF ANTICIPATE, 

2007
01:14:46,949 --> 01:14:50,619
YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL ISSUES, LOOK

2008
01:14:50,619 --> 01:14:51,253
AROUND CORNERS QUITE LITERALLY. 

2009
01:14:51,253 --> 01:14:53,589
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU 

2010
01:14:53,589 --> 01:14:55,057
KNOW, YOU KNOW, SHALL THIS 

2011
01:14:55,057 --> 01:14:57,459
PROVISION BE LITIGATED AT SOME 

2012
01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:58,093
POINT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S 

2013
01:14:58,093 --> 01:15:02,030
SUFFICIENT CLARITY IN THERE TO, 

2014
01:15:02,030 --> 01:15:04,800
TO, TO HELP FOLKS BETTER 

2015
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,368
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY 

2016
01:15:06,368 --> 01:15:07,970
INTENDED THERE. AND I WOULD, I 

2017
01:15:07,970 --> 01:15:10,539
AGREE ON THE ONE HAND THAT IT 

2018
01:15:10,539 --> 01:15:11,440
COULD POTENTIALLY BE LIMITING IN

2019
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:12,507
TERMS OF ONCE YOU START 

2020
01:15:12,507 --> 01:15:13,242
VENTURING DOWN THAT PATH. ON THE

2021
01:15:13,242 --> 01:15:15,410
OTHER HAND, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON 

2022
01:15:15,410 --> 01:15:17,312
HOW YOU STRUCTURE IT. IF YOU 

2023
01:15:17,312 --> 01:15:18,914
STRUCTURE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT.

2024
01:15:18,914 --> 01:15:20,449
SO IT'S, IT'S FLEXIBLE. IT'S 

2025
01:15:20,449 --> 01:15:24,553
BOTH DURABLE AND FLEXIBLE. YOU 

2026
01:15:24,553 --> 01:15:25,153
USING, FOR EXAMPLE, LANGUAGE 

2027
01:15:25,153 --> 01:15:26,154
LIKE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING 

2028
01:15:26,154 --> 01:15:27,923
WITHOUT LIMITATION OR INCLUDING,

2029
01:15:27,923 --> 01:15:29,157
BUT NOT LIMITED TO X, Y, AND Z. 

2030
01:15:29,157 --> 01:15:30,459
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT LEAVES ROOM 

2031
01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:32,861
FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY. BUT I 

2032
01:15:32,861 --> 01:15:33,695
GENERALLY HAVE A BIAS FOR 

2033
01:15:33,695 --> 01:15:38,066
CLARITY. BUT, BUT I DO 

2034
01:15:38,066 --> 01:15:38,533
APPRECIATE THIS, THIS 

2035
01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:41,069
LEGISLATION AND THANK YOU, CHAIR

2036
01:15:41,069 --> 01:15:43,038
AND MR. DOSS. NO FURTHER 

2037
01:15:43,038 --> 01:15:43,338
QUESTIONS. 

2038
01:15:43,338 --> 01:15:44,539
-- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. AND 

2039
01:15:44,539 --> 01:15:47,542
FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBERS, 

2040
01:15:47,542 --> 01:15:48,243
FOR THOSE WATCHING ON SEATTLE 

2041
01:15:48,243 --> 01:15:50,078
CHANNEL, IT SHOULD BE NOTED, 

2042
01:15:50,078 --> 01:15:52,614
I'M THE ONLY ONE WITHOUT A JD 

2043
01:15:52,614 --> 01:15:55,250
IN THIS COMMITTEE. AND SO THIS 

2044
01:15:55,250 --> 01:15:56,318
COMMITTEE IS AND THERE'S SOME 

2045
01:15:56,318 --> 01:15:58,186
OUT IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE JD

2046
01:15:58,186 --> 01:15:59,888
THAT NO DOUBT WILL BE LOOKING AT

2047
01:15:59,888 --> 01:16:02,925
THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL. AND SO I

2048
01:16:02,925 --> 01:16:04,893
THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE WELL 

2049
01:16:04,893 --> 01:16:05,727
COVERED AND. AND ON THAT FRONT, 

2050
01:16:05,727 --> 01:16:09,197
I WILL ADD TO YOUR POINT ABOUT 

2051
01:16:09,197 --> 01:16:10,933
EXECUTIVE LEGISLATIVE PIECES, I 

2052
01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:12,034
NOTED EARLIER IN CHAIR. COM 

2053
01:16:12,034 --> 01:16:13,468
ABOUT HOW THE SODA BILL WAS 

2054
01:16:13,468 --> 01:16:14,169
ACTUALLY CAME ABOUT. YOU KNOW, 

2055
01:16:14,169 --> 01:16:16,338
THERE WAS A THERE WAS ACTUALLY 

2056
01:16:16,338 --> 01:16:17,873
EXECUTIVE LINE EDITS IN THAT 

2057
01:16:17,873 --> 01:16:20,375
BILL BEFORE IT CAME FROM THE 

2058
01:16:20,375 --> 01:16:21,710
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND 

2059
01:16:21,710 --> 01:16:22,945
THAT SHOWED THE, YOU KNOW, THE 

2060
01:16:22,945 --> 01:16:25,347
PARTNERSHIP. I BRING THAT UP A. 

2061
01:16:25,347 --> 01:16:25,981
BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE 

2062
01:16:25,981 --> 01:16:26,915
THAT WITH THE SODA BILL BECAUSE 

2063
01:16:26,915 --> 01:16:28,517
IT'S BEEN SO. MISS 

2064
01:16:28,517 --> 01:16:29,384
CHARACTERIZED OVER THE LAST 

2065
01:16:29,384 --> 01:16:32,421
COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT TWO, WE 

2066
01:16:32,421 --> 01:16:34,523
HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF 

2067
01:16:34,523 --> 01:16:35,857
ENGAGEMENT WITH MR. DOSS, WITH 

2068
01:16:35,857 --> 01:16:37,626
CENTRAL STAFF, WITH PDA, WITH 

2069
01:16:37,626 --> 01:16:39,962
THE EXECUTIVE AND OTHERS ON THIS

2070
01:16:39,962 --> 01:16:42,664
BILL. IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, 

2071
01:16:42,664 --> 01:16:44,066
STARTING TO REACH OUT TO OTHER 

2072
01:16:44,066 --> 01:16:45,534
ELEMENTS AS IT RELATES TO SOME 

2073
01:16:45,534 --> 01:16:47,102
OF THESE TOUCH POINTS, YOU KNOW,

2074
01:16:47,102 --> 01:16:48,770
ACTUALLY GETTING SUCCESS AND 

2075
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:51,640
DIVERSION. AND AS I NOTED, THE 

2076
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,642
THE ISSUES THAT CASEY J. KING 

2077
01:16:53,642 --> 01:16:55,043
COUNTY JAIL. SO SO WE'LL 

2078
01:16:55,043 --> 01:16:55,877
CONTINUE THAT ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE

2079
01:16:55,877 --> 01:16:56,979
YOU'RE RIGHT, AT THE END OF THE

2080
01:16:56,979 --> 01:16:59,181
DAY, IT'S ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION.

2081
01:16:59,181 --> 01:17:01,450
AND THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. 

2082
01:17:01,450 --> 01:17:03,652
SOMETIMES. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER 

2083
01:17:03,652 --> 01:17:05,220
LIN HAS HIS HAND UP. 

2084
01:17:05,220 --> 01:17:08,557
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND ONE, I 

2085
01:17:08,557 --> 01:17:10,492
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. EVEN

2086
01:17:10,492 --> 01:17:12,361
THOUGH FOLKS HAVE LEFT FOR 

2087
01:17:12,361 --> 01:17:15,364
EVERYONE WHO CAME AND TESTIFIED,

2088
01:17:15,364 --> 01:17:17,065
JUST INCREDIBLY POWERFUL AND 

2089
01:17:17,065 --> 01:17:19,668
MOVING AND JUST TO HEAR THE 

2090
01:17:19,668 --> 01:17:21,603
STORIES OF THE MANY LIVES THAT 

2091
01:17:21,603 --> 01:17:25,774
HAVE BEEN SAVED AND THE MANY 

2092
01:17:25,774 --> 01:17:27,509
FAMILIES AND CHILDREN THAT NOW 

2093
01:17:27,509 --> 01:17:29,711
HAVE PARENTS BACK IN THEIR 

2094
01:17:29,711 --> 01:17:33,248
LIVES, PRETTY, PRETTY 

2095
01:17:33,248 --> 01:17:34,216
COMPELLING. I WANT TO THANK YOU 

2096
01:17:34,216 --> 01:17:35,784
FOR FOR BRINGING THIS. I HAVE A 

2097
01:17:35,784 --> 01:17:39,588
FEW QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, HAD THE

2098
01:17:39,588 --> 01:17:41,556
OPPORTUNITY TO OVER THE PAST SIX

2099
01:17:41,556 --> 01:17:44,259
MONTHS TO MEET QUITE A LOT WITH 

2100
01:17:44,259 --> 01:17:47,396
SPD, WITH PDA, TO LEARN ABOUT 

2101
01:17:47,396 --> 01:17:51,833
THE HISTORY OF OF LEAD AND SORT 

2102
01:17:51,833 --> 01:17:54,903
OF THE SENSE THAT I'VE GOTTEN 

2103
01:17:54,903 --> 01:17:56,671
IS THAT WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF 

2104
01:17:56,671 --> 01:17:59,541
SUCCESS WITH THE LEAD PROGRAM. 

2105
01:17:59,541 --> 01:18:03,645
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, COVID HIT. 

2106
01:18:03,645 --> 01:18:06,014
WE HAD THE WASHINGTON SUPREME 

2107
01:18:06,014 --> 01:18:07,616
COURT CASE THAT SORT OF THREW 

2108
01:18:07,616 --> 01:18:09,017
OUR DRUG POSSESSION LAWS, SORT 

2109
01:18:09,017 --> 01:18:13,355
OF, YOU KNOW, INTO TURMOIL FOR A

2110
01:18:13,355 --> 01:18:18,393
BIT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT

2111
01:18:18,393 --> 01:18:20,562
OF TURNOVER IN SPD. AND SO I 

2112
01:18:20,562 --> 01:18:22,197
THINK AND SOME OF THE FUNDING 

2113
01:18:22,197 --> 01:18:27,035
FOR LEAD WAS CUT FOR A BIT. AND 

2114
01:18:27,035 --> 01:18:28,737
SO I THINK SOME OF THAT SUCCESS 

2115
01:18:28,737 --> 01:18:30,972
THAT WE WERE SEEING WE SAW A 

2116
01:18:30,972 --> 01:18:34,943
DROP OFF BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF 

2117
01:18:34,943 --> 01:18:37,446
ALL THAT TURMOIL THAT WAS 

2118
01:18:37,446 --> 01:18:42,684
HAPPENING. AND I SEE OPPORTUNITY

2119
01:18:42,684 --> 01:18:44,086
HERE TO, TO, TO BUILD BACK ON 

2120
01:18:44,086 --> 01:18:48,824
THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM. AND

2121
01:18:48,824 --> 01:18:51,660
WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS AND I, YOU 

2122
01:18:51,660 --> 01:18:55,664
KNOW, I THINK FOR FOR SOME OF 

2123
01:18:55,664 --> 01:18:58,700
THE OFFICERS WHO, WHO HAVE SEEN 

2124
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:00,068
THAT SUCCESS, THEY THEY 

2125
01:19:00,068 --> 01:19:01,770
UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF THIS 

2126
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:03,572
PROGRAM. THEY UNDERSTAND, YOU 

2127
01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:05,974
KNOW, THE FRUSTRATION OF, OF 

2128
01:19:05,974 --> 01:19:07,442
ARRESTING FOLKS TIME AND TIME 

2129
01:19:07,442 --> 01:19:08,944
AGAIN. AND THEN JUST SEEING 

2130
01:19:08,944 --> 01:19:12,380
THOSE SAME PEOPLE BACK ON THE 

2131
01:19:12,380 --> 01:19:15,851
BEAT AND THAT THAT'S NOT A GOOD

2132
01:19:15,851 --> 01:19:17,819
USE OF THEIR RESOURCES. AND, AND

2133
01:19:17,819 --> 01:19:19,354
THAT THEY'VE SEEN HOW, HOW THIS

2134
01:19:19,354 --> 01:19:24,092
CAN CHANGE LIVES. AND THAT, THAT

2135
01:19:24,092 --> 01:19:26,595
WARM HANDOFF IS INCREDIBLY 

2136
01:19:26,595 --> 01:19:27,896
IMPORTANT. SO ONE QUESTION, I 

2137
01:19:27,896 --> 01:19:29,765
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHEN IT 

2138
01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:31,233
SAYS FIELD BASED, I'VE HEARD 

2139
01:19:31,233 --> 01:19:35,971
THAT OFTENTIMES THAT WARM 

2140
01:19:35,971 --> 01:19:38,640
HANDOFF HAPPENS AT THE PRECINCTS

2141
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,541
THAT THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO DO 

2142
01:19:39,541 --> 01:19:41,343
THOSE WARM HANDOFFS. I JUST WANT

2143
01:19:41,343 --> 01:19:43,979
TO CLARIFY THAT FIELD BASED DOES

2144
01:19:43,979 --> 01:19:46,648
NOT PRECLUDE SORT OF WARM 

2145
01:19:46,648 --> 01:19:48,650
HANDOFFS HAPPENING AT THE 

2146
01:19:48,650 --> 01:19:49,484
PRECINCT. SO FOR EITHER CHAIR, 

2147
01:19:49,484 --> 01:19:52,521
MR. DOSS, IF YOU COULD CLARIFY. 

2148
01:19:52,521 --> 01:19:56,525
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. IT 

2149
01:19:56,525 --> 01:19:59,027
I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SPD THAT 

2150
01:19:59,027 --> 01:20:01,329
THEY ARE OFFICERS ARE NOT 

2151
01:20:01,329 --> 01:20:03,098
ENFORCING THAT WAY AS MUCH 

2152
01:20:03,098 --> 01:20:04,232
ANYMORE. ARREST AND TAKEN TO A 

2153
01:20:04,232 --> 01:20:06,568
PRECINCT AND THEN A HANDOFF TO 

2154
01:20:06,568 --> 01:20:08,637
LEAD. I THINK THAT THE POINT OF 

2155
01:20:08,637 --> 01:20:14,142
FIELD BASED IS THE IDEA THAT THE

2156
01:20:14,142 --> 01:20:14,609
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 

2157
01:20:14,609 --> 01:20:15,644
ORGANIZATION, IN THIS CASE, 

2158
01:20:15,644 --> 01:20:18,346
LEAD, COMES TO MEET THE PERSON 

2159
01:20:18,346 --> 01:20:20,982
IN THE OFFICER, WHEREVER THEY'RE

2160
01:20:20,982 --> 01:20:22,484
AT, AS OPPOSED TO OTHER RECOVERY

2161
01:20:22,484 --> 01:20:25,120
SERVICES LIKE, SAY, DSA, WHERE 

2162
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,656
YOU HAVE TO GO THERE TO BE 

2163
01:20:27,656 --> 01:20:30,692
ASSESSED AND, AND ENROLLED. IF 

2164
01:20:30,692 --> 01:20:33,094
LIKE THE QUESTION THAT 

2165
01:20:33,094 --> 01:20:34,829
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA ASKED ABOUT 

2166
01:20:34,829 --> 01:20:36,498
DEFINITIONS, IF THE COUNCIL 

2167
01:20:36,498 --> 01:20:38,667
WANTED TO FURTHER SPECIFY THAT 

2168
01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:41,837
THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION VIA 

2169
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:42,137
AMENDMENT. 

2170
01:20:42,137 --> 01:20:44,873
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I JUST 

2171
01:20:44,873 --> 01:20:46,708
WOULD WOULD LOVE SOME, SOME 

2172
01:20:46,708 --> 01:20:48,109
CLARITY BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD, AT

2173
01:20:48,109 --> 01:20:50,045
LEAST AS OF YESTERDAY, I WAS 

2174
01:20:50,045 --> 01:20:52,581
TALKING TO SPD ABOUT SOME OF 

2175
01:20:52,581 --> 01:20:53,481
THEIR EFFORTS AT 12th AND 

2176
01:20:53,481 --> 01:20:54,950
JACKSON, AND I'VE CERTAINLY 

2177
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:56,518
HEARD THAT A LOT OF THE HANDOFFS

2178
01:20:56,518 --> 01:20:58,220
ARE HAPPENING AT THE PRECINCT. 

2179
01:20:58,220 --> 01:21:02,324
AND SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO 

2180
01:21:02,324 --> 01:21:03,892
PRECLUDE THAT. IF THAT IS 

2181
01:21:03,892 --> 01:21:05,527
SOMETHING THAT BOTH LEAD AND THE

2182
01:21:05,527 --> 01:21:06,661
POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE FINDING 

2183
01:21:06,661 --> 01:21:10,498
USEFUL OR EFFECTIVE. SO WE CAN 

2184
01:21:10,498 --> 01:21:14,502
CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THAT. AND 

2185
01:21:14,502 --> 01:21:18,740
JUST SORT OF FINAL POINT IS THAT

2186
01:21:18,740 --> 01:21:20,475
A LOT OF THIS, I THINK, IS GOING

2187
01:21:20,475 --> 01:21:22,377
TO DEPEND ON THE AVAILABILITY OF

2188
01:21:22,377 --> 01:21:24,279
LEAD TO DO THOSE WARM HANDOFFS, 

2189
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:25,480
AND THAT'S A CAPACITY AND A 

2190
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:27,082
FUNDING ISSUE. AND SO I THINK 

2191
01:21:27,082 --> 01:21:29,284
THAT THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE A 

2192
01:21:29,284 --> 01:21:31,086
CRITICAL PIECE OF THIS AS, AS 

2193
01:21:31,086 --> 01:21:32,454
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE 

2194
01:21:32,454 --> 01:21:34,289
HEADING INTO A VERY TOUGH BUDGET

2195
01:21:34,289 --> 01:21:37,959
SEASON. BUT I DO THINK THIS IS 

2196
01:21:37,959 --> 01:21:39,160
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND SO 

2197
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,228
HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND A WAY TO 

2198
01:21:40,228 --> 01:21:41,863
DO THAT. THANK YOU. 

2199
01:21:41,863 --> 01:21:43,365
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LIN.

2200
01:21:43,365 --> 01:21:44,466
THAT'S DEFINITELY BEEN A PIECE 

2201
01:21:44,466 --> 01:21:49,070
FOR THIS COMMITTEE, IS TO WORK 

2202
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:49,571
THE ISSUES THAT IN ANY 

2203
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:51,273
DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR OEM, 

2204
01:21:51,273 --> 01:21:52,874
THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH 

2205
01:21:52,874 --> 01:21:53,875
THE FUNDING AND HOW THINGS, YOU 

2206
01:21:53,875 --> 01:21:55,644
KNOW, GRANT BASED FOR THE 

2207
01:21:55,644 --> 01:21:56,978
POSITIONS, JUST CLEANING UP THE 

2208
01:21:56,978 --> 01:21:57,679
LINES, AS I LIKE TO SAY, WE DID 

2209
01:21:57,679 --> 01:21:59,681
THAT WITH OEM. AND IT'S THE 

2210
01:21:59,681 --> 01:22:02,284
SAME THING WITH PD. A, THEY WERE

2211
01:22:02,284 --> 01:22:02,884
GETTING THEIR FUNDING SOURCES 

2212
01:22:02,884 --> 01:22:05,153
FROM A VARIED SOURCES. AND JUST 

2213
01:22:05,153 --> 01:22:07,689
TO GET IT ORGANIZED AND TO BE 

2214
01:22:07,689 --> 01:22:09,391
FRANK, TO BRING IT UNDER THIS 

2215
01:22:09,391 --> 01:22:11,159
COMMITTEE'S OVERVIEW. SO THAT 

2216
01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:11,826
WAS A BIG PIECE THAT WE WANTED 

2217
01:22:11,826 --> 01:22:15,397
TO DO. AND SO SO WE'RE WORKING 

2218
01:22:15,397 --> 01:22:16,998
THESE PIECES TO FROM A BUDGET 

2219
01:22:16,998 --> 01:22:18,466
PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO FROM AN 

2220
01:22:18,466 --> 01:22:21,002
OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. AND, 

2221
01:22:21,002 --> 01:22:23,071
AND I HEAR EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD

2222
01:22:23,071 --> 01:22:25,640
SO FAR, AND I AGREE AT THE SAME 

2223
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,208
TIME, THE FLEXIBILITY IS KEY 

2224
01:22:27,208 --> 01:22:28,743
BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 

2225
01:22:28,743 --> 01:22:30,278
PRECINCTS ARE ALL DIFFERENT. YOU

2226
01:22:30,278 --> 01:22:31,913
KNOW, IT, I'VE BEEN TO ALL OF 

2227
01:22:31,913 --> 01:22:33,815
THEM AND YOU KNOW, THE 

2228
01:22:33,815 --> 01:22:34,349
CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THOSE 

2229
01:22:34,349 --> 01:22:35,350
NEIGHBORHOODS IS, YOU KNOW, 

2230
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:36,818
IT'S DIFFERENT AND HAS 

2231
01:22:36,818 --> 01:22:38,486
DIFFERENT DYNAMICS. SO PRECINCT 

2232
01:22:38,486 --> 01:22:39,888
VERSUS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIELD 

2233
01:22:39,888 --> 01:22:43,925
AND SO FORTH SO THANK YOU. 

2234
01:22:43,925 --> 01:22:44,559
COUNCILMEMBER LIN COUNCILMEMBER 

2235
01:22:44,559 --> 01:22:45,627
JUAREZ. 

2236
01:22:45,627 --> 01:22:47,862
-- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M 

2237
01:22:47,862 --> 01:22:50,031
JUST GOING TO BE 

2238
01:22:50,031 --> 01:22:51,032
STRAIGHTFORWARD. I THE PROBLEM I

2239
01:22:51,032 --> 01:22:53,868
HAVE WITH THIS IS SO INSTEAD OF 

2240
01:22:53,868 --> 01:22:56,137
WHAT WE DID BEFORE THE CHARGE BY

2241
01:22:56,137 --> 01:22:57,605
OFFICE OF THE CBO AND THE 

2242
01:22:57,605 --> 01:22:58,873
CONCERNS AND I THINK 

2243
01:22:58,873 --> 01:22:59,474
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA TOUCHED ON 

2244
01:22:59,474 --> 01:23:01,710
THIS AS WELL, ON THE 

2245
01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:03,878
ENFORCEMENT, THE IMPLEMENTATION 

2246
01:23:03,878 --> 01:23:06,481
OF THIS LAW, THIS PROCEDURE, 

2247
01:23:06,481 --> 01:23:07,315
THIS INFIELD DIVERSION. I JUST 

2248
01:23:07,315 --> 01:23:10,218
WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS LINE OF 

2249
01:23:10,218 --> 01:23:12,053
QUESTIONING. SO THE INFIELD 

2250
01:23:12,053 --> 01:23:12,787
DIVERSION, IS THAT SOMETHING WE 

2251
01:23:12,787 --> 01:23:14,656
CAME UP WITH? THE CITY OF 

2252
01:23:14,656 --> 01:23:16,491
SEATTLE? IS THIS DONE IN OTHER 

2253
01:23:16,491 --> 01:23:18,059
CITIES IN FIELD DIVERSION? 

2254
01:23:18,059 --> 01:23:23,965
-- YES, IT IS. IN WORKING WITH 

2255
01:23:23,965 --> 01:23:24,432
OUR OUR LEAD PROGRAM 

2256
01:23:24,432 --> 01:23:27,535
ADMINISTRATOR, PD AYE, AND THEN 

2257
01:23:27,535 --> 01:23:28,203
ALSO WITH THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE

2258
01:23:28,203 --> 01:23:31,840
AND WITH THE CEO. IT CAME IT 

2259
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,043
BECAME CLEAR THROUGH DISCUSSIONS

2260
01:23:35,043 --> 01:23:36,611
THAT THE INFIELD DIVERSION, THE 

2261
01:23:36,611 --> 01:23:38,313
WARM HANDOFF, IF YOU WILL, IS 

2262
01:23:38,313 --> 01:23:40,315
REALLY THE EVIDENCE BASED 

2263
01:23:40,315 --> 01:23:43,018
PRACTICE THAT THAT HAS SUCCESS 

2264
01:23:43,018 --> 01:23:43,818
WITH WITH DIVERSION. OKAY. AND 

2265
01:23:43,818 --> 01:23:46,154
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S USED BY

2266
01:23:46,154 --> 01:23:47,055
US NATIONALLY. 

2267
01:23:47,055 --> 01:23:49,391
-- OKAY. SO INFIELD DIVERSION 

2268
01:23:49,391 --> 01:23:50,191
HAS BECOME A TERM OF ART AND NOW

2269
01:23:50,191 --> 01:23:51,259
A PROCEDURE THAT WE WANT TO 

2270
01:23:51,259 --> 01:23:53,361
IMPLEMENT AND CODIFY INTO LAW. 

2271
01:23:53,361 --> 01:23:55,430
IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO ARREST. 

2272
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:58,366
SO YOU HAVE A KIND OF A 

2273
01:23:58,366 --> 01:23:59,200
TRANSITION PERIOD IN THERE. WE 

2274
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,202
UNDERSTAND THAT AN OFFICER HAS 

2275
01:24:01,202 --> 01:24:02,337
PROBABLE CAUSE TO COME UP TO 

2276
01:24:02,337 --> 01:24:04,639
SOMEBODY AND SAY, YOU'RE EITHER

2277
01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:06,274
USING DRUGS OR POSSESSION, AND 

2278
01:24:06,274 --> 01:24:07,709
WE'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. IT'S

2279
01:24:07,709 --> 01:24:10,211
A MISDEMEANOR. CORRECT. OKAY. SO

2280
01:24:10,211 --> 01:24:11,446
WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON THE 

2281
01:24:11,446 --> 01:24:13,548
POLICE OFFICER'S DISCRETION, 

2282
01:24:13,548 --> 01:24:18,086
WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL WANTS OR 

2283
01:24:18,086 --> 01:24:20,488
NEEDS INFIELD DIVERSION. WHAT IF

2284
01:24:20,488 --> 01:24:20,955
SOMEBODY DOESN'T? 

2285
01:24:20,955 --> 01:24:23,958
-- YEAH. FIRST, I MIGHT NOTE 

2286
01:24:23,958 --> 01:24:24,893
THAT IT'S NOT AN ALTERNATIVE TO

2287
01:24:24,893 --> 01:24:27,862
ARREST. OKAY. IN MOST IT IS AN 

2288
01:24:27,862 --> 01:24:30,465
ALTERNATIVE TO ARREST, BUT IT. 

2289
01:24:30,465 --> 01:24:32,000
INFIELD DIVERSION CAN ALSO BE 

2290
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,001
USED. POST-ARREST. SO IT CAN BE 

2291
01:24:33,001 --> 01:24:35,503
USED. EITHER WAY, IF AN 

2292
01:24:35,503 --> 01:24:38,907
INDIVIDUAL IS NOT INTERESTED IN 

2293
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:40,675
RECEIVING DIVERSION, THEN THE 

2294
01:24:40,675 --> 01:24:43,945
OFFICER WILL HAVE THE OPTION FOR

2295
01:24:43,945 --> 01:24:44,412
OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO 

2296
01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:46,081
INCARCERATION. AGAIN, ARREST AND

2297
01:24:46,081 --> 01:24:48,583
RELEASED OR CHARGED BY OFFICER 

2298
01:24:48,583 --> 01:24:51,986
OR THE OFFICER COULD TAKE THAT 

2299
01:24:51,986 --> 01:24:52,520
PERSON TO JAIL ENTIRELY, 

2300
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:53,788
DEPENDING ON THE OFFICER 

2301
01:24:53,788 --> 01:24:56,224
DISCRETION. AS YOU NOTE. 

2302
01:24:56,224 --> 01:24:58,293
-- SO DO WE HAVE SEE WITHIN AND 

2303
01:24:58,293 --> 01:24:59,561
AGAIN, I DON'T I'M JUST ASKING

2304
01:24:59,561 --> 01:25:04,265
I'M NOT TRYING TO IMPLY 

2305
01:25:04,265 --> 01:25:06,634
ANYTHING THAT SPD IS OPEN TO 

2306
01:25:06,634 --> 01:25:10,405
THEIR OFFICERS HAVING THE 

2307
01:25:10,405 --> 01:25:12,807
DISCRETION TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT

2308
01:25:12,807 --> 01:25:13,508
AND ASK SOMEBODY BECAUSE, YOU 

2309
01:25:13,508 --> 01:25:16,678
KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS 

2310
01:25:16,678 --> 01:25:19,147
GREAT PERIOD IN TRANSITION WHERE

2311
01:25:19,147 --> 01:25:20,014
AN OFFICER IS GOING TO HAVE TO 

2312
01:25:20,014 --> 01:25:21,783
MAKE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO 

2313
01:25:21,783 --> 01:25:23,618
RELY ON THEIR EXPERTISE THAT 

2314
01:25:23,618 --> 01:25:25,420
THEY'RE STOPPING THIS PERSON 

2315
01:25:25,420 --> 01:25:26,754
FOR A MISDEMEANOR CRIME OF DRUG 

2316
01:25:26,754 --> 01:25:29,891
POSSESSION OR USE, AND HAVE TO 

2317
01:25:29,891 --> 01:25:33,261
MAKE A DECISION AND ASK THAT 

2318
01:25:33,261 --> 01:25:36,464
PERSON SUSPECT ALLEGEDLY, DO YOU

2319
01:25:36,464 --> 01:25:37,866
WANT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO JUST 

2320
01:25:37,866 --> 01:25:41,903
CALL CALL, LEAD AND SAY, HEY, 

2321
01:25:41,903 --> 01:25:44,239
THERE'S SOMEONE DOWN HERE THAT 

2322
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:45,373
WANTS TREATMENT? CAN YOU JUST 

2323
01:25:45,373 --> 01:25:48,109
TELL ME HOW THAT'S GOING TO 

2324
01:25:48,109 --> 01:25:48,843
WORK? BECAUSE AS A FORMER JUDGE 

2325
01:25:48,843 --> 01:25:50,044
AND PUBLIC DEFENDER AND DID 

2326
01:25:50,044 --> 01:25:51,513
CRIMINAL MATTERS FOR MANY, MANY 

2327
01:25:51,513 --> 01:25:53,781
YEARS, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS

2328
01:25:53,781 --> 01:25:55,550
IS GOING TO WORK. AND I COULD BE

2329
01:25:55,550 --> 01:25:56,751
WRONG. I JUST WANT YOU TO WALK 

2330
01:25:56,751 --> 01:25:59,387
ME THROUGH A SCENARIO, AND I 

2331
01:25:59,387 --> 01:26:00,021
THINK COUNCILMEMBER SAKA TOUCHED

2332
01:26:00,021 --> 01:26:01,656
ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE 

2333
01:26:01,656 --> 01:26:02,557
THERE'S TWO THINGS GOING ON. 

2334
01:26:02,557 --> 01:26:03,625
THERE'S WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SPD 

2335
01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:09,030
AND WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO 

2336
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:09,697
AND EXPERTISE. AND WE'RE GOING 

2337
01:26:09,697 --> 01:26:10,331
TO HEAR FROM THEIR UNION. I'M 

2338
01:26:10,331 --> 01:26:10,999
GUESSING IF THINGS AREN'T GOING

2339
01:26:10,999 --> 01:26:11,666
TO KIND OF GO THE WAY THEY WANT 

2340
01:26:11,666 --> 01:26:12,300
ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK IS WITHIN 

2341
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:13,401
THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION. AND THEN 

2342
01:26:13,401 --> 01:26:16,070
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL 

2343
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:20,909
WITH ANY TYPE OF ANY TYPE OF, OF

2344
01:26:20,909 --> 01:26:21,643
CONCERNS ABOUT MAYBE THEY DON'T

2345
01:26:21,643 --> 01:26:23,378
MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. IF 

2346
01:26:23,378 --> 01:26:27,115
SOMEBODY EITHER DOESN'T WANT 

2347
01:26:27,115 --> 01:26:27,849
TREATMENT OR WOULD RATHER HAVE A

2348
01:26:27,849 --> 01:26:32,186
TICKET OR, AND SAYS, I WILL SHOW

2349
01:26:32,186 --> 01:26:32,754
UP IN COURT, WHETHER IT'S 

2350
01:26:32,754 --> 01:26:33,388
PRE-ARREST OR POST AT THE POLICE

2351
01:26:33,388 --> 01:26:37,325
STATION. SO CAN YOU JUST WALK ME

2352
01:26:37,325 --> 01:26:39,894
THROUGH THAT, THAT FACT PATTERN?

2353
01:26:39,894 --> 01:26:41,529
-- YEAH, SURE. SO THIS THE 

2354
01:26:41,529 --> 01:26:45,433
EXISTING LAW THAT THAT YOU ALL 

2355
01:26:45,433 --> 01:26:46,100
PASSED IN 2023 SETS UP THAT 

2356
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:49,637
FRAMEWORK THAT YOU'RE TALKING 

2357
01:26:49,637 --> 01:26:50,505
ABOUT. IT REQUIRES SPD TO WRITE 

2358
01:26:50,505 --> 01:26:53,808
POLICIES. AND THEY DID WRITE 

2359
01:26:53,808 --> 01:26:56,144
POLICIES ON HOW OFFICERS ARE 

2360
01:26:56,144 --> 01:26:56,644
SUPPOSED TO ENGAGE WHEN 

2361
01:26:56,644 --> 01:26:57,612
ENFORCING DRUG CRIMES. AND SO 

2362
01:26:57,612 --> 01:26:59,814
THOSE POLICIES THAT SPD WROTE 

2363
01:26:59,814 --> 01:27:04,786
ARE CONTAINED IN 151 50 UNDER 

2364
01:27:04,786 --> 01:27:06,120
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

2365
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,722
MANUAL. AND WHAT THEY WHAT THOSE

2366
01:27:07,722 --> 01:27:11,125
POLICIES REQUIRE. AGAIN, UNDER 

2367
01:27:11,125 --> 01:27:13,027
THE EXISTING LAWS IS THAT WHEN 

2368
01:27:13,027 --> 01:27:15,163
AN OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO

2369
01:27:15,163 --> 01:27:17,498
BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE IS 

2370
01:27:17,498 --> 01:27:19,100
POTENTIALLY GUILTY OF A PUBLIC 

2371
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:21,035
USE OR POSSESSION CRIME, THEY 

2372
01:27:21,035 --> 01:27:22,804
MAY ENGAGE WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL 

2373
01:27:22,804 --> 01:27:26,207
AND THEN THEY FOLLOW THE SPD 

2374
01:27:26,207 --> 01:27:28,243
POLICY ABOUT A THREAT OF HARM 

2375
01:27:28,243 --> 01:27:29,477
ASSESSMENT, DETERMINING WHETHER 

2376
01:27:29,477 --> 01:27:30,945
THIS PERSON IS A THREAT OF HARM 

2377
01:27:30,945 --> 01:27:32,547
TO THEIRSELF, OR WHETHER THIS 

2378
01:27:32,547 --> 01:27:34,415
PERSON IS A THREAT OF HARM TO 

2379
01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:37,785
OTHERS, TO SUBJECTS IN THE AREA,

2380
01:27:37,785 --> 01:27:39,087
AND THE POLICY THAT SPD HAS PUT 

2381
01:27:39,087 --> 01:27:41,656
INTO PLACE GIVES SPECIFIC 

2382
01:27:41,656 --> 01:27:43,858
ELEMENTS THAT ARE TO BE 

2383
01:27:43,858 --> 01:27:44,425
CONSIDERED BY OFFICERS WHEN 

2384
01:27:44,425 --> 01:27:45,126
THEY'RE DOING THIS THREAT OF 

2385
01:27:45,126 --> 01:27:47,996
HARM ASSESSMENT, THINGS LIKE 

2386
01:27:47,996 --> 01:27:50,632
WHETHER THE LOCATION IS NEAR 

2387
01:27:50,632 --> 01:27:53,301
OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, 

2388
01:27:53,301 --> 01:27:53,968
COMMERCIAL ENTITIES, BUSINESSES 

2389
01:27:53,968 --> 01:27:56,638
OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. AND AS 

2390
01:27:56,638 --> 01:27:59,707
THEY GO THROUGH THAT THREAT OF 

2391
01:27:59,707 --> 01:28:00,274
HARM ASSESSMENT, THEY'RE 

2392
01:28:00,274 --> 01:28:00,908
DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THIS 

2393
01:28:00,908 --> 01:28:04,612
PERSON SHOULD BE ARRESTED. AND 

2394
01:28:04,612 --> 01:28:07,649
IF THIS PERSON SHOULD BE 

2395
01:28:07,649 --> 01:28:08,583
ARRESTED AND BOOKED INTO JAIL, 

2396
01:28:08,583 --> 01:28:10,718
DEPENDING ON THEIR ASSESSMENT, 

2397
01:28:10,718 --> 01:28:15,823
THEY WOULD BE TAKEN TO JAIL. IF 

2398
01:28:15,823 --> 01:28:17,458
THEY CHOOSE TO DIVERT, WHICH IS 

2399
01:28:17,458 --> 01:28:19,460
MORE IN LINE WITH THE CITY 

2400
01:28:19,460 --> 01:28:21,296
POLICY OVERALL, IF IT'S IF IT'S

2401
01:28:21,296 --> 01:28:23,297
POSSIBLE OR ALLOWABLE UNDER 

2402
01:28:23,297 --> 01:28:24,866
THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEN THEY 

2403
01:28:24,866 --> 01:28:26,601
HAVE THE OPTION TO CALL A LEAD 

2404
01:28:26,601 --> 01:28:28,670
COUNSELOR. THERE IS A 247 LINE 

2405
01:28:28,670 --> 01:28:32,440
THAT IS MAINTAINED BY LEAD THAT 

2406
01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:33,041
OFFICERS HAVE THE NUMBER FOR. 

2407
01:28:33,041 --> 01:28:36,678
IT'S IN THEIR POLICIES. THEY'RE

2408
01:28:36,678 --> 01:28:38,713
TRAINED ON HOW TO FIND THAT 

2409
01:28:38,713 --> 01:28:39,514
NUMBER AND TO CALL A LEAD 

2410
01:28:39,514 --> 01:28:40,548
PROVIDER TO COME OUT INTO THE 

2411
01:28:40,548 --> 01:28:42,817
FIELD AND DO A WARM HANDOFF. SO 

2412
01:28:42,817 --> 01:28:44,385
THAT'S SORT OF, I HOPE I'M 

2413
01:28:44,385 --> 01:28:45,486
WALKING YOU THROUGH. 

2414
01:28:45,486 --> 01:28:46,487
-- YEAH. YOU ARE. AND I REMEMBER

2415
01:28:46,487 --> 01:28:48,456
SOME OF THIS GOING BACK TO 2023 

2416
01:28:48,456 --> 01:28:49,924
IN THE LINE AND THE ARGUMENTS 

2417
01:28:49,924 --> 01:28:54,028
THAT WERE GOING ON BACK THEN 

2418
01:28:54,028 --> 01:28:56,464
POST 2020 AND THE KIND OF DO NO 

2419
01:28:56,464 --> 01:28:58,299
HARM IF PEOPLE ARE WELL, THAT'S

2420
01:28:58,299 --> 01:28:58,966
A WHOLE 'NOTHER STORY. SO LET 

2421
01:28:58,966 --> 01:29:01,336
ME JUST SO SO BASICALLY WE'RE 

2422
01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:05,039
SAYING THIS IS THE TACTIC THAT 

2423
01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:06,074
WE WOULD PREFER THIS INFIELD 

2424
01:29:06,074 --> 01:29:08,509
DIVERSION. 

2425
01:29:08,509 --> 01:29:09,844
-- THAT'S EXISTING LAWS UNDER 

2426
01:29:09,844 --> 01:29:12,714
THE LAW THAT GOT PASSED IN 2023.

2427
01:29:12,714 --> 01:29:15,116
JUST TO PUT IT SIMPLY, THE THE 

2428
01:29:15,116 --> 01:29:19,821
CITY WAS SAYING WE WE PREFER 

2429
01:29:19,821 --> 01:29:20,455
ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION. 

2430
01:29:20,455 --> 01:29:24,192
WE PREFER ALTERNATIVES TO THE 

2431
01:29:24,192 --> 01:29:26,060
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, DIVERSION

2432
01:29:26,060 --> 01:29:28,296
BEING ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES,

2433
01:29:28,296 --> 01:29:30,298
BUT ALSO CHARGED BY OFFICER OR 

2434
01:29:30,298 --> 01:29:32,333
ARREST BY RELEASE. WE WOULD BE 

2435
01:29:32,333 --> 01:29:36,304
YOU ALL WOULD BE UPDATING TO SAY

2436
01:29:36,304 --> 01:29:39,407
NOT ONLY DOES THE CITY PREFER 

2437
01:29:39,407 --> 01:29:40,007
ALTERNATIVES TO THE CRIMINAL 

2438
01:29:40,007 --> 01:29:44,145
JUSTICE SYSTEM, THE CITY PREFERS

2439
01:29:44,145 --> 01:29:47,048
A WARM HANDOFF IN THE FIELD TO 

2440
01:29:47,048 --> 01:29:47,515
DIVERSION PROVIDERS. 

2441
01:29:47,515 --> 01:29:49,550
-- I'M ALWAYS ANNOYED BY THE 

2442
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:51,986
TERM WARM HANDOFF, BUT THAT'S 

2443
01:29:51,986 --> 01:29:54,188
THAT'S ME ON ANOTHER ISSUE. LET

2444
01:29:54,188 --> 01:29:56,524
ME ASK YOU THIS. SO WHEN WE WERE

2445
01:29:56,524 --> 01:29:58,526
WE WERE DOING THAT BACK IN THE 

2446
01:29:58,526 --> 01:30:00,795
2020 223 IN RESPONSE TO THE 

2447
01:30:00,795 --> 01:30:04,399
STATE LAW. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO 

2448
01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:07,402
THIS STILL IS IN LINE WITH WHAT 

2449
01:30:07,402 --> 01:30:09,036
THE STATE LAW IS STILL GOOD LAW.

2450
01:30:09,036 --> 01:30:10,638
CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN I 

2451
01:30:10,638 --> 01:30:11,205
REMEMBER THAT AND I HAD TO 

2452
01:30:11,205 --> 01:30:12,807
LAUGH. I DID READ YOUR MEMO, BUT

2453
01:30:12,807 --> 01:30:15,309
I WAS I REMEMBER THAT THE 

2454
01:30:15,309 --> 01:30:17,612
COMMITTEE WAS NEVER ESTABLISHED 

2455
01:30:17,612 --> 01:30:20,181
-- THAT'S TRUE. THE BEHAVIORAL 

2456
01:30:20,181 --> 01:30:20,815
HEALTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT 

2457
01:30:20,815 --> 01:30:24,519
WAS CREATED TO OVERSEE CITY WIDE

2458
01:30:24,519 --> 01:30:25,987
DRUG POLICY AND OPERATIONS, THE 

2459
01:30:25,987 --> 01:30:28,856
EXECUTIVE NEVER ESTABLISHED THAT

2460
01:30:28,856 --> 01:30:30,525
COMMITTEE. THE CHAIR'S BILL 

2461
01:30:30,525 --> 01:30:32,193
REMOVES THAT COMMITTEE. BUT AS I

2462
01:30:32,193 --> 01:30:34,228
MENTIONED, THE CHAIR IS SETTING 

2463
01:30:34,228 --> 01:30:36,164
UP A PROCESS TO WORK WITH 

2464
01:30:36,164 --> 01:30:37,799
STAKEHOLDERS TO DETERMINE IF 

2465
01:30:37,799 --> 01:30:39,934
THAT COMMITTEE SHOULD BE 

2466
01:30:39,934 --> 01:30:41,569
RECREATED AND INCLUDED IN THIS 

2467
01:30:41,569 --> 01:30:42,670
LEGISLATION AND, IF SO, HOW IT 

2468
01:30:42,670 --> 01:30:44,305
MIGHT LOOK, WHAT ITS DUTIES 

2469
01:30:44,305 --> 01:30:45,706
WOULD BE AND HOW IT WOULD BE 

2470
01:30:45,706 --> 01:30:46,808
STAFFED. AND SO THOSE ARE SORT 

2471
01:30:46,808 --> 01:30:49,310
OF ALL OPEN QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

2472
01:30:49,310 --> 01:30:51,979
AND IN THE MEANTIME, THAT 

2473
01:30:51,979 --> 01:30:54,248
LANGUAGE IS TAKEN OUT. IF THE 

2474
01:30:54,248 --> 01:30:56,050
CHAIR AND THROUGH THIS PROCESS 

2475
01:30:56,050 --> 01:30:57,051
DETERMINES THAT SOMETHING SHOULD

2476
01:30:57,051 --> 01:30:58,352
BE ADDED BACK, IT COULD BE ADDED

2477
01:30:58,352 --> 01:31:01,189
BACK BY AMENDMENT. 

2478
01:31:01,189 --> 01:31:03,991
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

2479
01:31:03,991 --> 01:31:05,726
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2480
01:31:05,726 --> 01:31:08,362
JUAREZ. ONE OF THE POINTS THIS 

2481
01:31:08,362 --> 01:31:12,200
BILL DOES NOT TOUCH HARM, BUT 

2482
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,534
WHAT IS CLEAR IS ANY HARM 

2483
01:31:13,534 --> 01:31:15,236
ASSESSMENT AT THIS POINT HAS TO 

2484
01:31:15,236 --> 01:31:17,471
TAKE INTO EFFECT OF ALL THE HARM

2485
01:31:17,471 --> 01:31:18,039
THAT'S BEEN DONE TO THE 

2486
01:31:18,039 --> 01:31:20,141
NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH THESE DRUG

2487
01:31:20,141 --> 01:31:21,576
MARKETS AND, AND THE USE. AND 

2488
01:31:21,576 --> 01:31:24,479
THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING 

2489
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,881
FROM FROM NORTH AURORA, BUT 

2490
01:31:26,881 --> 01:31:29,083
DEFINITELY IN BELLTOWN DOWNTOWN,

2491
01:31:29,083 --> 01:31:30,785
THE CITY AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE 

2492
01:31:30,785 --> 01:31:30,985
CITY. 

2493
01:31:30,985 --> 01:31:31,819
-- MR. CHAIR, CAN I SAY 

2494
01:31:31,819 --> 01:31:32,520
SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO WHAT 

2495
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,388
YOU JUST SAID? 

2496
01:31:34,388 --> 01:31:34,622
-- YES. 

2497
01:31:34,622 --> 01:31:37,525
-- THANK YOU. IF I REMEMBER 

2498
01:31:37,525 --> 01:31:38,793
CORRECTLY, AND YOU WERE THERE 

2499
01:31:38,793 --> 01:31:41,562
TOO, GREG. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M

2500
01:31:41,562 --> 01:31:43,798
WRONG. WHEN THESE WERE BEING 

2501
01:31:43,798 --> 01:31:44,999
PASSED, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE 

2502
01:31:44,999 --> 01:31:47,902
DOING IT NOW. THE CONVERSATIONS 

2503
01:31:47,902 --> 01:31:49,170
AROUND HOW HARM, WHAT HARM WAS 

2504
01:31:49,170 --> 01:31:52,139
DOING TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND 

2505
01:31:52,139 --> 01:31:55,776
BUSINESSES AND THAT WAS LIKE 

2506
01:31:55,776 --> 01:31:56,777
POLITICALLY A HOT TOPIC. LIKE 

2507
01:31:56,777 --> 01:31:58,479
NOBODY WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT. 

2508
01:31:58,479 --> 01:31:59,480
-- WELL, WE'RE ADDRESSING IT 

2509
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:00,915
NOW. 

2510
01:32:00,915 --> 01:32:03,718
-- IT WAS POLITICALLY NOT, YOU 

2511
01:32:03,718 --> 01:32:04,519
KNOW, IT WASN'T MY MOM. I WAS 

2512
01:32:04,519 --> 01:32:05,953
GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. I 

2513
01:32:05,953 --> 01:32:08,956
PROBABLY WON'T. IT WAS IT WAS 

2514
01:32:08,956 --> 01:32:10,024
POLITICALLY NOT A GOOD THING TO 

2515
01:32:10,024 --> 01:32:12,360
SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON IS ON 

2516
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,795
DRUGS. IT'S A MISDEMEANOR. THEY

2517
01:32:14,795 --> 01:32:16,264
DO NEED TREATMENT. SOME OF THEM 

2518
01:32:16,264 --> 01:32:17,265
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ARREST 

2519
01:32:17,265 --> 01:32:18,933
IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IF 

2520
01:32:18,933 --> 01:32:20,601
THEY'RE A DANGER. BUT WHEN WE 

2521
01:32:20,601 --> 01:32:24,071
WOULD BRING UP LITTLE 

2522
01:32:24,071 --> 01:32:25,706
-- SAIGON AURORA. 

2523
01:32:25,706 --> 01:32:29,443
-- LAKE. CITY WAY. 

2524
01:32:29,443 --> 01:32:32,179
NEIGHBORHOODS. PARKS. 

2525
01:32:32,179 --> 01:32:32,813
BUSINESSES. PARTICULARLY SMALL 

2526
01:32:32,813 --> 01:32:33,681
BUSINESSES WHERE WE JUST COULD 

2527
01:32:33,681 --> 01:32:35,917
NOT GET PEOPLE AWAY FROM IN 

2528
01:32:35,917 --> 01:32:38,753
FRONT OF BUILDINGS SMOKING 

2529
01:32:38,753 --> 01:32:39,820
FENTANYL. PEOPLE WOULD JUST NAIL

2530
01:32:39,820 --> 01:32:41,122
YOU TO THE CROSS LIKE YOU'RE 

2531
01:32:41,122 --> 01:32:42,523
JUST A HORRIBLE PERSON FOR 

2532
01:32:42,523 --> 01:32:45,059
BRINGING THAT UP, YOU KNOW? AND 

2533
01:32:45,059 --> 01:32:45,793
IT'S JUST LIKE, NO. AND I'M 

2534
01:32:45,793 --> 01:32:47,161
JUST GOING TO SAY THIS, AND THIS

2535
01:32:47,161 --> 01:32:49,196
WOULD BE MY LAST COMMENT. THIS 

2536
01:32:49,196 --> 01:32:50,298
IS LIKE ABOUT GETTING OLDER AND 

2537
01:32:50,298 --> 01:32:52,500
SAYING, I TOLD YOU SO. EXACTLY 

2538
01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:54,869
WHAT WE SAID WOULD HAPPEN HAS 

2539
01:32:54,869 --> 01:32:55,937
HAPPENED. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU 

2540
01:32:55,937 --> 01:32:57,838
HAVE AT LITTLE SAIGON IN THESE 

2541
01:32:57,838 --> 01:33:00,308
NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE WE 

2542
01:33:00,308 --> 01:33:01,943
BASICALLY WERE SHOUTED OUT OF 

2543
01:33:01,943 --> 01:33:03,144
THE ROOM FOR SAYING, YES, ALL 

2544
01:33:03,144 --> 01:33:05,146
THOSE OTHER THINGS ARE TRUE, BUT

2545
01:33:05,146 --> 01:33:07,315
WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO 

2546
01:33:07,315 --> 01:33:09,850
ACCOUNT WHAT THIS OPEN AIR DRUG 

2547
01:33:09,850 --> 01:33:11,085
USE DOES TO NEIGHBORHOOD 

2548
01:33:11,085 --> 01:33:12,086
SCHOOLS, BUS STOPS, PARKS, YOU 

2549
01:33:12,086 --> 01:33:13,654
NAME IT. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN 

2550
01:33:13,654 --> 01:33:15,156
THAT YOU'RE AN EVIL PERSON OR 

2551
01:33:15,156 --> 01:33:17,391
YOU DON'T HAVE EMPATHY, BUT 

2552
01:33:17,391 --> 01:33:19,994
THAT THE LAW SHOULD HAVE 

2553
01:33:19,994 --> 01:33:21,128
ACCOUNTABILITY AND HAVE ALL 

2554
01:33:21,128 --> 01:33:22,463
KINDS OF TOOLS TO ADDRESS PEOPLE

2555
01:33:22,463 --> 01:33:24,265
WHO ARE IN NEED OF TREATMENT, IF

2556
01:33:24,265 --> 01:33:28,336
INDEED THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. 

2557
01:33:28,336 --> 01:33:29,270
SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT 

2558
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:31,238
AT THAT. SO THANK YOU. 

2559
01:33:31,238 --> 01:33:32,640
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

2560
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,742
JUAREZ. YES. THE MISGUIDED IS 

2561
01:33:34,742 --> 01:33:35,676
THE WORD THAT COMES. 

2562
01:33:35,676 --> 01:33:36,043
-- IS THAT THE. 

2563
01:33:36,043 --> 01:33:38,479
-- WORD WE USE? IT'S MISGUIDED 

2564
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,482
AND IT'S CLEARLY MISGUIDED. AND

2565
01:33:41,482 --> 01:33:41,983
TODAY WE START WITH THE 

2566
01:33:41,983 --> 01:33:43,250
COMPASSION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN 

2567
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:44,919
CRISIS. BUT EQUALLY WITH THE 

2568
01:33:44,919 --> 01:33:47,021
WISDOM OF KNOWING THAT OUR 

2569
01:33:47,021 --> 01:33:48,656
NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IN CRISIS TOO.

2570
01:33:48,656 --> 01:33:50,458
AND THAT GOES TO THE HARM POINT.

2571
01:33:50,458 --> 01:33:53,127
AND, AND I WOULD NOTE TOO, YOU 

2572
01:33:53,127 --> 01:33:55,062
KNOW, THIS DIVERGENCE 

2573
01:33:55,062 --> 01:33:56,664
PRE-BOOKING, POST-ARREST. AND, 

2574
01:33:56,664 --> 01:33:58,966
YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS REALLY TO 

2575
01:33:58,966 --> 01:34:01,369
SET UP PDA FOR SUCCESS IN TERMS 

2576
01:34:01,369 --> 01:34:03,971
OF DIVERSION PIECE, BUT THEN 

2577
01:34:03,971 --> 01:34:05,072
ALSO IF NEEDED, AND AGAIN, WITH 

2578
01:34:05,072 --> 01:34:07,375
A FOCUS ON THE MARKET AND THOSE 

2579
01:34:07,375 --> 01:34:09,577
PIECES REALLY DRIVING. AND THIS 

2580
01:34:09,577 --> 01:34:10,611
IS THE SHAME OF THE SODA BILL 

2581
01:34:10,611 --> 01:34:11,879
GETTING, YOU KNOW, PUNTED TO THE

2582
01:34:11,879 --> 01:34:14,782
SIDE. WE NEED EVERYTHING TO, TO 

2583
01:34:14,782 --> 01:34:16,717
ATTACK THESE DRUG MARKETS. AND 

2584
01:34:16,717 --> 01:34:17,385
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT DOING 

2585
01:34:17,385 --> 01:34:18,953
THAT. AND NOW WE'RE SEEING SOME

2586
01:34:18,953 --> 01:34:21,355
SLIDE BACKS, LIKE IN LITTLE 

2587
01:34:21,355 --> 01:34:22,390
SAIGON AND NORTH AURORA RIGHT 

2588
01:34:22,390 --> 01:34:23,491
NOW, BASED ON THE PEOPLE I'VE 

2589
01:34:23,491 --> 01:34:24,358
BEEN TALKING TO OVER THE PAST 

2590
01:34:24,358 --> 01:34:28,696
WEEK. AND IT'S CONCERNING 

2591
01:34:28,696 --> 01:34:29,163
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. 

2592
01:34:29,163 --> 01:34:31,032
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WANT TO 

2593
01:34:31,032 --> 01:34:34,001
THANK YOU FOR OPENING THIS 

2594
01:34:34,001 --> 01:34:36,637
CONVERSATION BACK UP, ACTUALLY, 

2595
01:34:36,637 --> 01:34:39,140
BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN HERE

2596
01:34:39,140 --> 01:34:40,675
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA FOR THE 

2597
01:34:40,675 --> 01:34:43,644
LAST ALMOST THREE YEARS. 

2598
01:34:43,644 --> 01:34:44,345
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ YOU'VE BEEN

2599
01:34:44,345 --> 01:34:46,414
HERE A LOT LONGER THAN THAT PRE 

2600
01:34:46,414 --> 01:34:49,917
THAT AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS

2601
01:34:49,917 --> 01:34:51,485
IS A PIECE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN

2602
01:34:51,485 --> 01:34:53,120
ABLE TO MAKE THE INROADS THAT WE

2603
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,923
WANTED TO MAKE IN. AND I WOULD 

2604
01:34:55,923 --> 01:34:58,059
SAY THAT THE HARM ISN'T I DON'T

2605
01:34:58,059 --> 01:34:58,759
THINK OF IT AS NEIGHBORHOOD, AS 

2606
01:34:58,759 --> 01:35:00,661
SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY'RE

2607
01:35:00,661 --> 01:35:03,297
HUMANS. AND THAT MAKES IT SEEM 

2608
01:35:03,297 --> 01:35:04,899
LIKE LOCATIONS AND PLACES. BUT 

2609
01:35:04,899 --> 01:35:07,034
IT'S THE BUSINESS. SMALL 

2610
01:35:07,034 --> 01:35:09,570
BUSINESS OWNERS, AND IT'S THE 

2611
01:35:09,570 --> 01:35:11,138
KIDS AT THE PARK AND IT'S OUR 

2612
01:35:11,138 --> 01:35:13,774
NEIGHBORS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS

2613
01:35:13,774 --> 01:35:18,179
LIKE THE NEIGHBORS, KIDS, 

2614
01:35:18,179 --> 01:35:20,881
FAMILIES, SINGLE PEOPLE UP ON 

2615
01:35:20,881 --> 01:35:22,249
AURORA THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH 

2616
01:35:22,249 --> 01:35:22,817
THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE DRUG 

2617
01:35:22,817 --> 01:35:24,919
MARKETS UP THERE. THOSE ARE 

2618
01:35:24,919 --> 01:35:26,487
HUMANS. AND I DON'T THINK WE 

2619
01:35:26,487 --> 01:35:27,955
SHOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OF 

2620
01:35:27,955 --> 01:35:29,056
PICKING SOME HUMANS OVER OTHER 

2621
01:35:29,056 --> 01:35:30,624
HUMANS. SO WE NEED TO HAVE 

2622
01:35:30,624 --> 01:35:31,692
SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO WORK

2623
01:35:31,692 --> 01:35:34,128
FOR ALL THE HUMANS. AND I THINK 

2624
01:35:34,128 --> 01:35:37,331
FOR A LONG TIME NOW, WE'VE BEEN

2625
01:35:37,331 --> 01:35:38,699
THINKING ABOUT JUST ONE SET OF 

2626
01:35:38,699 --> 01:35:40,134
HUMANS, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO 

2627
01:35:40,134 --> 01:35:43,571
TAKE CARE OF ALL HUMANS. SO WE 

2628
01:35:43,571 --> 01:35:45,439
NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE HUMANS 

2629
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:46,507
THAT NEED TREATMENT. AND WE NEED

2630
01:35:46,507 --> 01:35:48,476
TO TAKE THE HUMANS CARE OF THE 

2631
01:35:48,476 --> 01:35:50,611
HUMANS, LIKE UP ON AURORA, WHO 

2632
01:35:50,611 --> 01:35:52,613
HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT DRUG 

2633
01:35:52,613 --> 01:35:54,381
TRAFFICKING. AND WE NEED TO TAKE

2634
01:35:54,381 --> 01:35:55,750
CARE OF THE GIRLS THAT ARE 

2635
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:56,917
GETTING SEX TRAFFICKED ON 

2636
01:35:56,917 --> 01:35:58,352
AURORA. THAT IS ALL PART OF THE 

2637
01:35:58,352 --> 01:36:01,555
DRUG TRADE AS WELL. THESE ARE 

2638
01:36:01,555 --> 01:36:02,623
ALL HUMANS. WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE

2639
01:36:02,623 --> 01:36:06,026
CARE OF. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU 

2640
01:36:06,026 --> 01:36:06,660
OPENING THIS CONVERSATION BACK 

2641
01:36:06,660 --> 01:36:07,595
UP, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A 

2642
01:36:07,595 --> 01:36:09,196
NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY THAT 

2643
01:36:09,196 --> 01:36:12,833
ISN'T IMPACTED BY THIS, SOME TO

2644
01:36:12,833 --> 01:36:15,636
MORE DEGREES, OBVIOUSLY, LITTLE 

2645
01:36:15,636 --> 01:36:17,338
SAIGON AND NORTH AURORA AND SOME

2646
01:36:17,338 --> 01:36:18,906
TO LESSER DEGREES, WHICH ARE 

2647
01:36:18,906 --> 01:36:20,474
POCKETS IN ALL OF THE 

2648
01:36:20,474 --> 01:36:22,710
NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY. 

2649
01:36:22,710 --> 01:36:25,679
AND EVERY DISTRICT THAT WE ALL 

2650
01:36:25,679 --> 01:36:26,647
COLLECTIVELY REPRESENT. AND WE 

2651
01:36:26,647 --> 01:36:31,085
DO NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO MAKE 

2652
01:36:31,085 --> 01:36:33,053
SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING 

2653
01:36:33,053 --> 01:36:35,222
THIS, THIS NEED. I DO HAVE 

2654
01:36:35,222 --> 01:36:38,025
QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE,

2655
01:36:38,025 --> 01:36:40,728
ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW,

2656
01:36:40,728 --> 01:36:45,332
WE'RE NOW PRIORITIZING FIELD 

2657
01:36:45,332 --> 01:36:48,302
DIVERSION. I NEED MORE 

2658
01:36:48,302 --> 01:36:50,671
INFORMATION AND MY DUE DILIGENCE

2659
01:36:50,671 --> 01:36:52,806
FASHION ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. 

2660
01:36:52,806 --> 01:36:55,509
AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE'RE 

2661
01:36:55,509 --> 01:36:57,278
SAYING THAT THE ONLY ONES WHO 

2662
01:36:57,278 --> 01:36:58,379
CAN MEET THIS NEED IN SEATTLE AT

2663
01:36:58,379 --> 01:37:02,183
THE MOMENT IS LEAD, I WANT TO 

2664
01:37:02,183 --> 01:37:03,217
KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THAT 

2665
01:37:03,217 --> 01:37:05,419
ARE. AND THEN TO THE POINT ABOUT

2666
01:37:05,419 --> 01:37:07,788
FUNDING, I KNOW WE GAVE LEAD 

2667
01:37:07,788 --> 01:37:08,756
LAST YEAR FOR THIS AND THIS FOR 

2668
01:37:08,756 --> 01:37:10,858
THIS BUDGET. THIS YEAR, $20 

2669
01:37:10,858 --> 01:37:13,494
MILLION. SO I KNOW THERE IS 

2670
01:37:13,494 --> 01:37:15,062
FUNDING THAT WE BECAUSE WE 

2671
01:37:15,062 --> 01:37:16,997
BELIEVE SO MUCH IN THIS 

2672
01:37:16,997 --> 01:37:18,365
DIVERSION PIECE. I VOTED FOR IT 

2673
01:37:18,365 --> 01:37:23,704
TOO. AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW 

2674
01:37:23,704 --> 01:37:26,040
THOSE THAT FUNDING IS ACTUALLY 

2675
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,442
HELPING PEOPLE BECAUSE IF 

2676
01:37:28,442 --> 01:37:29,043
DIVERSIONS ARE DOWN, THEN WHO 

2677
01:37:29,043 --> 01:37:30,578
ARE WE HELPING WITH THAT 

2678
01:37:30,578 --> 01:37:33,080
FUNDING? AND THEN TO THE POINT 

2679
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,850
I'VE MADE OVER AND AGAIN ABOUT 

2680
01:37:35,850 --> 01:37:37,184
THE CARE CRISIS RESPONDERS, IS 

2681
01:37:37,184 --> 01:37:40,187
THERE A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 

2682
01:37:40,187 --> 01:37:43,424
WHILE THE I BELIEVE IN THE WARM 

2683
01:37:43,424 --> 01:37:44,425
HANDOFF 100%, I'VE HAD THE 

2684
01:37:44,425 --> 01:37:48,929
CONVERSATION WITH LEAD ABOUT IF 

2685
01:37:48,929 --> 01:37:50,464
IT WAS PICKED UP AND BROUGHT 

2686
01:37:50,464 --> 01:37:51,599
DOWN TO COUNTY AND RELEASED AND 

2687
01:37:51,599 --> 01:37:53,334
THEY'RE NOT THERE TO, TO, TO DO

2688
01:37:53,334 --> 01:37:55,836
THAT WARM HANDOFF, THEN THAT 

2689
01:37:55,836 --> 01:37:56,904
PERSON IS GOING BACK TO THE 

2690
01:37:56,904 --> 01:37:59,006
STREET. AND THEN IT'S LIKE THE 

2691
01:37:59,006 --> 01:38:00,074
REVOLVING DOOR. AND THAT'S 

2692
01:38:00,074 --> 01:38:01,675
HELPING NO ONE, NOT THE PERSON 

2693
01:38:01,675 --> 01:38:03,611
WE'RE TRYING TO GET TREATMENT 

2694
01:38:03,611 --> 01:38:05,112
FOR OR THE HUMANS THAT WE'RE 

2695
01:38:05,112 --> 01:38:07,681
TRYING TO HELP IN THE VARIOUS 

2696
01:38:07,681 --> 01:38:08,315
LOCATIONS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT 

2697
01:38:08,315 --> 01:38:11,018
EARLIER. SO I DO WANT TO KNOW 

2698
01:38:11,018 --> 01:38:13,954
HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK BETTER

2699
01:38:13,954 --> 01:38:14,588
BECAUSE NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT

2700
01:38:14,588 --> 01:38:16,957
THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A WARM 

2701
01:38:16,957 --> 01:38:19,994
HANDOFF, I DON'T HAVEN'T SEEN 

2702
01:38:19,994 --> 01:38:21,795
THE DIVERSION PIECE WORKING AS 

2703
01:38:21,795 --> 01:38:26,333
WELL AS I THINK IT SHOULD, 

2704
01:38:26,333 --> 01:38:27,868
BECAUSE IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH

2705
01:38:27,868 --> 01:38:28,802
LEAD, THEY KNOW THE FOLKS THAT 

2706
01:38:28,802 --> 01:38:29,370
HAVE BEEN RELEASED AND THEY 

2707
01:38:29,370 --> 01:38:32,439
COULD APPROACH THEM IF THEY FIND

2708
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,276
THEM. AND SO I, I HAVE QUESTIONS

2709
01:38:35,276 --> 01:38:37,544
ABOUT WHY, TO WHAT EXTENT THAT 

2710
01:38:37,544 --> 01:38:40,214
HOW WELL THAT'S WORKING. MY 

2711
01:38:40,214 --> 01:38:41,148
UNDERSTANDING IS NOT WELL, BUT I

2712
01:38:41,148 --> 01:38:42,283
DON'T WANT TO BE UNFAIR AND I 

2713
01:38:42,283 --> 01:38:46,854
NEED MORE DATA AND INFORMATION. 

2714
01:38:46,854 --> 01:38:50,691
SO. AND ARE THERE OTHER, YOU 

2715
01:38:50,691 --> 01:38:53,460
KNOW, ENFIELD, YOU KNOW, HOW TO 

2716
01:38:53,460 --> 01:38:54,094
TO COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ POINT, 

2717
01:38:54,094 --> 01:38:56,563
HOW HAS THIS WORKED IN OTHER 

2718
01:38:56,563 --> 01:38:58,399
CITIES? IS IT ONE MAIN GROUP 

2719
01:38:58,399 --> 01:39:02,703
THAT IS DOING THIS WORK, OR IS 

2720
01:39:02,703 --> 01:39:03,971
IT MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS DOING 

2721
01:39:03,971 --> 01:39:05,506
THE WORK? I DO NOT KNOW. IS IT 

2722
01:39:05,506 --> 01:39:07,041
THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE 

2723
01:39:07,041 --> 01:39:08,242
TREATMENT FACILITIES AND ARE 

2724
01:39:08,242 --> 01:39:10,477
THEY DOING THE WORK? BECAUSE 

2725
01:39:10,477 --> 01:39:12,346
ULTIMATELY, IF SOMEONE NEEDS 

2726
01:39:12,346 --> 01:39:14,515
TREATMENT THAT REQUIRES A 

2727
01:39:14,515 --> 01:39:16,350
TREATMENT FACILITY, LEADS NOT 

2728
01:39:16,350 --> 01:39:17,217
DOING THE ACTUAL TREATMENT, 

2729
01:39:17,217 --> 01:39:18,953
THEY'RE THE ONES THERE. THE 

2730
01:39:18,953 --> 01:39:20,721
CASE MANAGERS HELPING FOLKS GET 

2731
01:39:20,721 --> 01:39:23,257
INTO TREATMENT. SO THAT REQUIRES

2732
01:39:23,257 --> 01:39:25,059
A WHOLE 'NOTHER POT OF MONEY. 

2733
01:39:25,059 --> 01:39:28,629
UNLESS THE 20 MILLION WE GIVE TO

2734
01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:30,030
LEAD ALSO RESULTS IN THOSE 

2735
01:39:30,030 --> 01:39:31,832
INDIVIDUALS GETTING TREATMENT. I

2736
01:39:31,832 --> 01:39:35,135
DO NOT KNOW. SO I THINK ALL OF 

2737
01:39:35,135 --> 01:39:37,471
THESE WE NEED MORE DATA BY WHICH

2738
01:39:37,471 --> 01:39:40,274
WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTING SOME 

2739
01:39:40,274 --> 01:39:41,909
DECISIONS AS EVERYONE. MOST 

2740
01:39:41,909 --> 01:39:44,345
PEOPLE UP HERE HAVE SAID TODAY. 

2741
01:39:44,345 --> 01:39:46,947
SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2742
01:39:46,947 --> 01:39:48,515
KETTLE. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 

2743
01:39:48,515 --> 01:39:49,550
TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. I'M 

2744
01:39:49,550 --> 01:39:51,552
SO GLAD YOU OPENED THIS BACK UP 

2745
01:39:51,552 --> 01:39:53,253
AND I'LL BE REACHING BACK OUT, 

2746
01:39:53,253 --> 01:39:56,557
GREG, TO GET SOME OF THESE 

2747
01:39:56,557 --> 01:39:58,759
ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS SO THAT 

2748
01:39:58,759 --> 01:40:02,296
AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND 

2749
01:40:02,296 --> 01:40:03,130
EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A

2750
01:40:03,130 --> 01:40:06,100
VOTE ON THIS, WE'LL SEE IF 

2751
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:07,434
IT'S IF IT NEEDS ANY TWEAKING. 

2752
01:40:07,434 --> 01:40:09,837
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

2753
01:40:09,837 --> 01:40:10,404
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

2754
01:40:10,404 --> 01:40:12,706
RIVERA. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO 

2755
01:40:12,706 --> 01:40:13,340
REMEMBER PART OF THE THE MISSION

2756
01:40:13,340 --> 01:40:15,709
OF THIS BILL IS TO CREATE DATA. 

2757
01:40:15,709 --> 01:40:17,077
BECAUSE A LOT OF WAYS THERE'S 

2758
01:40:17,077 --> 01:40:18,145
NOT. SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE. I 

2759
01:40:18,145 --> 01:40:19,980
DON'T WANT TO GET YOU 

2760
01:40:19,980 --> 01:40:21,248
FRUSTRATED AT THE BEGINNING, BUT

2761
01:40:21,248 --> 01:40:23,050
STAND BY. THERE'S YOU KNOW, THIS

2762
01:40:23,050 --> 01:40:23,717
IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING 

2763
01:40:23,717 --> 01:40:25,853
THIS BILL, IN PART, IS FOR THE 

2764
01:40:25,853 --> 01:40:27,087
DATA SETS THAT NEED TO BE 

2765
01:40:27,087 --> 01:40:28,122
CREATED AND UNDERSTOOD, YOU 

2766
01:40:28,122 --> 01:40:29,123
KNOW, MOVING FORWARD. 

2767
01:40:29,123 --> 01:40:30,591
-- BUT THE BILL ALSO, AT THE 

2768
01:40:30,591 --> 01:40:32,559
SAME TIME IS CREATING THIS NEW 

2769
01:40:32,559 --> 01:40:34,361
PRIORITIZATION. SO I WANT TO 

2770
01:40:34,361 --> 01:40:37,164
UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD WORK. 

2771
01:40:37,164 --> 01:40:37,865
SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT 

2772
01:40:37,865 --> 01:40:41,335
PART OF THE OF THE BILL, AND 

2773
01:40:41,335 --> 01:40:41,902
LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING OUT 

2774
01:40:41,902 --> 01:40:45,572
MORE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL CHAIR 

2775
01:40:45,572 --> 01:40:45,806
KETTLE. 

2776
01:40:45,806 --> 01:40:48,308
-- THANK YOU. AND MY VICE CHAIR 

2777
01:40:48,308 --> 01:40:50,144
HAS JUMPED BACK ON VICE CHAIR. 

2778
01:40:50,144 --> 01:40:54,782
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. A LOT OF 

2779
01:40:54,782 --> 01:40:56,083
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION AND 

2780
01:40:56,083 --> 01:40:57,184
DIALOG THAT JUST HAPPENED IN THE

2781
01:40:57,184 --> 01:40:58,919
LAST, YOU KNOW, 30, 40 MINUTES 

2782
01:40:58,919 --> 01:41:03,157
OR SO. AND I WANT TO BRIEFLY 

2783
01:41:03,157 --> 01:41:04,625
PILE ON TO TWO POINTS. FIRST 

2784
01:41:04,625 --> 01:41:06,960
OFF, WITH RESPECT TO THE THE 

2785
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,797
COMMENTS IN THE HISTORICAL 

2786
01:41:09,797 --> 01:41:11,965
CONTEXT PROVIDED BY COUNCIL 

2787
01:41:11,965 --> 01:41:14,568
MEMBER JUAREZ A MOMENT AGO ON, 

2788
01:41:14,568 --> 01:41:16,804
ON HOW THE THE DIALOG, THE 

2789
01:41:16,804 --> 01:41:19,073
DISCUSSION AND SOMETIMES DEBATE,

2790
01:41:19,073 --> 01:41:21,708
YOU KNOW, AROUND THESE ISSUES 

2791
01:41:21,708 --> 01:41:26,647
WAS PREVIOUSLY FRAMED. LIKE HOW 

2792
01:41:26,647 --> 01:41:29,183
DARE YOU ESSENTIALLY FOR 

2793
01:41:29,183 --> 01:41:33,320
BRINGING UP THE SUFFERING OF 

2794
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:33,821
NEIGHBORHOODS AND SMALL 

2795
01:41:33,821 --> 01:41:35,122
BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESS 

2796
01:41:35,122 --> 01:41:38,392
OWNERS, SMALL BUSINESS WORKERS, 

2797
01:41:38,392 --> 01:41:40,427
THEIR CUSTOMERS, THEIR 

2798
01:41:40,427 --> 01:41:43,263
SUPPLIERS, OUR KIDS. HOW DARE 

2799
01:41:43,263 --> 01:41:50,070
YOU BRING BRING THOSE UP. I, I 

2800
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:52,606
AM DISAPPOINTED, BUT SADLY NOT 

2801
01:41:52,606 --> 01:41:54,408
AT ALL SURPRISED. THAT'S KIND OF

2802
01:41:54,408 --> 01:41:56,677
THE NATURE OF THINGS AND WHAT 

2803
01:41:56,677 --> 01:41:57,811
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THAT 

2804
01:41:57,811 --> 01:41:59,012
WAS THE NATURE OF THINGS. THEN 

2805
01:41:59,012 --> 01:42:00,948
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE 

2806
01:42:00,948 --> 01:42:02,983
IS NUANCE. WHAT WE'RE TALKING 

2807
01:42:02,983 --> 01:42:04,251
ABOUT HERE IS COMPLEXITY. AND 

2808
01:42:04,251 --> 01:42:07,421
THAT'S WHY, CHAIR, I WANT TO 

2809
01:42:07,421 --> 01:42:09,523
THANK YOU FOR FOR BRINGING BACK 

2810
01:42:09,523 --> 01:42:13,861
UP THIS CONVERSATION SO WE CAN 

2811
01:42:13,861 --> 01:42:17,431
HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ANEW 

2812
01:42:17,431 --> 01:42:19,533
BUT DO IT IN A MANNER THAT 

2813
01:42:19,533 --> 01:42:21,034
CENTERS COMPLEXITY AND CENTERS, 

2814
01:42:21,034 --> 01:42:22,402
NUANCE AND CENTERS, HUMAN, THE 

2815
01:42:22,402 --> 01:42:28,308
HUMAN EXPERIENCE. YES, I HAVE 

2816
01:42:28,308 --> 01:42:31,512
ENDLESS EMPATHY FOR PEOPLE IN 

2817
01:42:31,512 --> 01:42:34,248
THE THROES OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 

2818
01:42:34,248 --> 01:42:37,017
CRISES, CHALLENGES, WHETHER 

2819
01:42:37,017 --> 01:42:37,651
IT'S DRUG DEPENDENCY, MENTAL 

2820
01:42:37,651 --> 01:42:40,954
HEALTH CHALLENGES, THE LIKE. AND

2821
01:42:40,954 --> 01:42:44,391
WE NEED ORGANIZATIONS LIKE LEAD 

2822
01:42:44,391 --> 01:42:47,561
CO-LEAD, ET CETERA. COMMUNITY 

2823
01:42:47,561 --> 01:42:50,430
PARTNERS TO HELP UPLIFT THOSE 

2824
01:42:50,430 --> 01:42:51,064
PEOPLE SUFFERING. AND WE NEED TO

2825
01:42:51,064 --> 01:42:53,700
FUND THEM FROM A CITY 

2826
01:42:53,700 --> 01:42:54,735
PERSPECTIVE. AND I AND I ALSO 

2827
01:42:54,735 --> 01:42:59,239
HAVE THAT'S TRUE. AND I ALSO 

2828
01:42:59,239 --> 01:43:02,843
HAVE ENDLESS EMPATHY FOR SMALL 

2829
01:43:02,843 --> 01:43:07,347
BUSINESS OWNERS. OUR KIDS IN 

2830
01:43:07,347 --> 01:43:08,916
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT RELIEF 

2831
01:43:08,916 --> 01:43:10,384
AS WELL FROM SOME OF THESE 

2832
01:43:10,384 --> 01:43:13,053
BROADER SOCIETAL CHALLENGES. AND

2833
01:43:13,053 --> 01:43:16,323
IT'S NOT ONE OR THE OTHER OR, 

2834
01:43:16,323 --> 01:43:18,525
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS WHY 

2835
01:43:18,525 --> 01:43:20,027
WE'RE HERE TOGETHER. WE'RE, 

2836
01:43:20,027 --> 01:43:20,727
WE'RE BETTER TOGETHER AND WE'RE

2837
01:43:20,727 --> 01:43:22,095
BETTER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE 

2838
01:43:22,095 --> 01:43:23,797
IN THE COMPLETE CONTEXT. SO, SO 

2839
01:43:23,797 --> 01:43:24,765
POINT ONE. THE SECOND THING I 

2840
01:43:24,765 --> 01:43:26,300
WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY REMARK ON 

2841
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:28,235
PILING ON SOME, SOME 

2842
01:43:28,235 --> 01:43:30,404
OBSERVATIONS EARLIER FROM 

2843
01:43:30,404 --> 01:43:32,139
COUNCILMEMBER LIN, WHICH I 

2844
01:43:32,139 --> 01:43:34,174
APPRECIATE ABOUT THE PUBLIC 

2845
01:43:34,174 --> 01:43:36,743
COMMENTERS WHO TOOK THE TIME 

2846
01:43:36,743 --> 01:43:37,377
EARLIER TODAY, WITHIN THE LAST 

2847
01:43:37,377 --> 01:43:39,212
HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF, WE HEARD 

2848
01:43:39,212 --> 01:43:41,448
A LOT OF TERRIFIC PUBLIC COMMENT

2849
01:43:41,448 --> 01:43:43,650
AND FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY FROM 

2850
01:43:43,650 --> 01:43:46,486
PEOPLE WITH DIRECT KIND OF 

2851
01:43:46,486 --> 01:43:47,120
PERSONAL EXPERIENCES IN VARIOUS 

2852
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,090
STAGES OF RECOVERY, OVERCOMING, 

2853
01:43:50,090 --> 01:43:54,161
YOU KNOW, THE THE RESILIENCE 

2854
01:43:54,161 --> 01:43:55,028
THERE. THERE'S WE HEARD A LOT 

2855
01:43:55,028 --> 01:43:59,800
AND IT WAS TERRIFIC VERY. I ALSO

2856
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,869
WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC 

2857
01:44:02,869 --> 01:44:04,171
COMMENTERS FOR SHOWING UP TO 

2858
01:44:04,171 --> 01:44:08,408
TESTIFY. I FOUND IT TO BE VERY 

2859
01:44:08,408 --> 01:44:10,444
REMARKABLE, SUPER PROFOUND. SOME

2860
01:44:10,444 --> 01:44:12,412
OF THE MOST UNIQUELY INSIGHTFUL 

2861
01:44:12,412 --> 01:44:14,648
PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD,

2862
01:44:14,648 --> 01:44:15,749
YOU KNOW, IN A WHILE, FOR A 

2863
01:44:15,749 --> 01:44:17,618
NUMBER OF REASONS, VERY 

2864
01:44:17,618 --> 01:44:21,488
POWERFUL, COMPELLING, 

2865
01:44:21,488 --> 01:44:23,123
PERSUASIVE. I'LL WHAT STICKS 

2866
01:44:23,123 --> 01:44:24,691
WITH ME IS CERTAINLY SOME OF THE

2867
01:44:24,691 --> 01:44:26,093
INDIVIDUAL STORIES AND 

2868
01:44:26,093 --> 01:44:28,662
NARRATIVES AND ANECDOTES, YOU 

2869
01:44:28,662 --> 01:44:32,032
KNOW, UNIQUELY ONE OF THE FIRST 

2870
01:44:32,032 --> 01:44:35,302
TIMES, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE WAS 

2871
01:44:35,302 --> 01:44:37,204
SPOKEN ABOUT IN A POSITIVE 

2872
01:44:37,204 --> 01:44:41,274
MANNER IN COURT, THE RENEWED 

2873
01:44:41,274 --> 01:44:45,345
ABILITY FOR CARETAKERS TO 

2874
01:44:45,345 --> 01:44:46,213
PROPERLY CARE, TAKE CARE OF 

2875
01:44:46,213 --> 01:44:48,348
THEIR OWN KIDS, AND I'LL 

2876
01:44:48,348 --> 01:44:50,217
REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE STORIES 

2877
01:44:50,217 --> 01:44:51,351
AND ANECDOTES. BUT ONE OF THE 

2878
01:44:51,351 --> 01:44:52,753
THINGS THAT STICKS WITH ME THE 

2879
01:44:52,753 --> 01:44:54,855
MOST ABOUT SOME OF THE THAT 

2880
01:44:54,855 --> 01:44:56,289
PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WE WE 

2881
01:44:56,289 --> 01:44:56,923
DON'T OFTEN HEAR SOMETIMES IN 

2882
01:44:56,923 --> 01:45:04,431
THIS IN THIS CHAMBER WAS DESPITE

2883
01:45:04,431 --> 01:45:07,601
SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE

2884
01:45:07,601 --> 01:45:11,838
WAS THIS PREDOMINANT THEME WHERE

2885
01:45:11,838 --> 01:45:13,840
PEOPLE WERE QUITE LITERALLY 

2886
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,510
PRACTICING AN ATTITUDE OF 

2887
01:45:16,510 --> 01:45:18,912
GRATITUDE, AN ATTITUDE OF 

2888
01:45:18,912 --> 01:45:20,881
GRATITUDE, AND I DON'T PRETEND 

2889
01:45:20,881 --> 01:45:25,319
TO KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO, YOU 

2890
01:45:25,319 --> 01:45:26,987
KNOW, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME

2891
01:45:26,987 --> 01:45:29,656
ANY, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH

2892
01:45:29,656 --> 01:45:34,328
CHALLENGES, BE AT A STAGE OF 

2893
01:45:34,328 --> 01:45:35,228
RECOVERY. I DON'T PRETEND TO, 

2894
01:45:35,228 --> 01:45:37,197
TO, TO KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE. 

2895
01:45:37,197 --> 01:45:38,865
WE'VE ALL HAD OUR OWN UNIQUE 

2896
01:45:38,865 --> 01:45:39,499
PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, BUT THAT 

2897
01:45:39,499 --> 01:45:42,235
IS SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE. BUT I 

2898
01:45:42,235 --> 01:45:45,772
THINK WE CAN ALL LEARN, ALL 

2899
01:45:45,772 --> 01:45:48,408
LEARN FROM WHAT WE JUST 

2900
01:45:48,408 --> 01:45:48,975
WITNESSED AND OBSERVED THAT 

2901
01:45:48,975 --> 01:45:50,744
DESPITE THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, 

2902
01:45:50,744 --> 01:45:52,579
THERE IS AN ATTITUDE, PREVAILING

2903
01:45:52,579 --> 01:45:54,481
ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE, AND 

2904
01:45:54,481 --> 01:45:56,049
WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE SEEKING, I

2905
01:45:56,049 --> 01:45:58,585
THINK WE PRACTICE THAT, LIVE UP 

2906
01:45:58,585 --> 01:46:01,655
TO IT. WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM IT.

2907
01:46:01,655 --> 01:46:02,456
SO THANK YOU. 

2908
01:46:02,456 --> 01:46:04,491
-- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. NOW, 

2909
01:46:04,491 --> 01:46:06,727
QUICKLY, COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

2910
01:46:06,727 --> 01:46:07,594
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND I JUST 

2911
01:46:07,594 --> 01:46:09,863
WANT TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT ONE 

2912
01:46:09,863 --> 01:46:10,530
THING THAT'S SORT OF IN THIS 

2913
01:46:10,530 --> 01:46:12,632
NAME, LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTED 

2914
01:46:12,632 --> 01:46:14,835
DIVERSION. IT IS NOT IN CHAIR 

2915
01:46:14,835 --> 01:46:16,837
KETTLE I'VE HEARD YOU SPEAK A 

2916
01:46:16,837 --> 01:46:18,572
LOT ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE TWO 

2917
01:46:18,572 --> 01:46:20,741
MINDS OF LIKE, THIS IS NOT A 

2918
01:46:20,741 --> 01:46:23,210
POLICE OR SOCIAL SERVICES. THIS 

2919
01:46:23,210 --> 01:46:25,979
IS SPD WORKING VERY CLOSELY, 

2920
01:46:25,979 --> 01:46:29,983
HAND IN HAND WITH OUR SOCIAL 

2921
01:46:29,983 --> 01:46:31,451
SERVICE, WITH WITH PDA. SO I 

2922
01:46:31,451 --> 01:46:33,587
JUST WANT TO AND, YOU KNOW, I 

2923
01:46:33,587 --> 01:46:35,122
THINK THAT THAT'S WHY THOSE 

2924
01:46:35,122 --> 01:46:37,624
WARM HANDOFFS ARE SO CRITICAL 

2925
01:46:37,624 --> 01:46:38,859
BECAUSE THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP, 

2926
01:46:38,859 --> 01:46:41,728
THIS REQUIRES TRAINING, THIS 

2927
01:46:41,728 --> 01:46:43,330
REQUIRES FOLKS TO DEVELOP THOSE 

2928
01:46:43,330 --> 01:46:44,464
RELATIONSHIPS. SO AND REALLY, 

2929
01:46:44,464 --> 01:46:46,466
IT'S A, IT'S A FORCE 

2930
01:46:46,466 --> 01:46:49,136
MULTIPLIER FOR OUR POLICE WHO, 

2931
01:46:49,136 --> 01:46:50,737
YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE THE TIME 

2932
01:46:50,737 --> 01:46:53,774
TO SPEND HOURS AT THE, YOU KNOW,

2933
01:46:53,774 --> 01:46:55,909
TRYING TO, TO DO A BOOKING 

2934
01:46:55,909 --> 01:46:57,177
BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL DECLINE OR,

2935
01:46:57,177 --> 01:46:58,945
YOU KNOW, JUST DON'T HAVE THE 

2936
01:46:58,945 --> 01:47:02,149
RESOURCES TO THEY KNOW SOMEBODY 

2937
01:47:02,149 --> 01:47:03,316
NEEDS SOMETHING OTHER THAN JAIL.

2938
01:47:03,316 --> 01:47:05,585
AND SO THEY WANT TO GET THEM 

2939
01:47:05,585 --> 01:47:06,987
THOSE RESOURCES, BUT THEY DON'T

2940
01:47:06,987 --> 01:47:08,288
HAVE THEM AVAILABLE. SO MAKING 

2941
01:47:08,288 --> 01:47:09,389
SURE THAT THEY CAN DO THAT, THAT

2942
01:47:09,389 --> 01:47:12,192
WARM HANDOFF, WHEN WE KNOW 

2943
01:47:12,192 --> 01:47:13,093
SOMEBODY IS IN DIRE NEED FOR 

2944
01:47:13,093 --> 01:47:15,495
HELP. SO I JUST BUT I JUST WANT 

2945
01:47:15,495 --> 01:47:16,730
TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS A 

2946
01:47:16,730 --> 01:47:19,399
PARTNERSHIP. IT'S NOT AN EITHER

2947
01:47:19,399 --> 01:47:19,733
OR SITUATION. 

2948
01:47:19,733 --> 01:47:21,701
-- THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. 

2949
01:47:21,701 --> 01:47:22,335
COUNCILMEMBER LIN. YEAH, THIS IS

2950
01:47:22,335 --> 01:47:24,871
DEFINITE PARTNERSHIP THAT GOES 

2951
01:47:24,871 --> 01:47:26,173
TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE THE 

2952
01:47:26,173 --> 01:47:27,040
DIFFERENT PIECES THAT WE'VE 

2953
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:27,741
DONE. AND THE OF TWO MINDS IS A 

2954
01:47:27,741 --> 01:47:30,343
MORE OF A STRATEGIC KIND OF 

2955
01:47:30,343 --> 01:47:31,611
CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY

2956
01:47:31,611 --> 01:47:32,746
THAT DOES SHOW UP IN DIFFERENT 

2957
01:47:32,746 --> 01:47:33,914
AREAS. BUT TO YOUR POINT, THIS 

2958
01:47:33,914 --> 01:47:38,718
IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. OKAY, 

2959
01:47:38,718 --> 01:47:40,253
WE'VE REACHED THE END. I JUST 

2960
01:47:40,253 --> 01:47:41,421
WANTED TO NOTE TOO, BY THE WAY, 

2961
01:47:41,421 --> 01:47:42,722
IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT. YOU KNOW,

2962
01:47:42,722 --> 01:47:44,391
WE HAD OIG HERE EARLIER IN THE 

2963
01:47:44,391 --> 01:47:47,461
YEAR TALKING ABOUT THE 

2964
01:47:47,461 --> 01:47:49,095
CHALLENGES WE HAD IN APRIL 28th 

2965
01:47:49,095 --> 01:47:51,865
OF THIS YEAR. WE HAD LEAD AND 

2966
01:47:51,865 --> 01:47:53,733
CENTRAL STAFF DOING A DRUG 

2967
01:47:53,733 --> 01:47:54,334
ORDINANCE OVERVIEW, PLUS THE 

2968
01:47:54,334 --> 01:47:57,370
LEAD DIVERSION, LEAD UTILIZATION

2969
01:47:57,370 --> 01:47:59,840
UPDATE. THEN WE HAD THE CARE 

2970
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,875
BILL THAT I BELIEVE THE MAYOR'S

2971
01:48:01,875 --> 01:48:03,543
PROBABLY SIGNING TODAY. AND THE 

2972
01:48:03,543 --> 01:48:07,948
ORDINANCE THAT WE JUST PASSED 

2973
01:48:07,948 --> 01:48:09,149
AND AND NOW HERE, IT'S NOT BY 

2974
01:48:09,149 --> 01:48:10,617
ACCIDENT. THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY 

2975
01:48:10,617 --> 01:48:12,519
WALKS I'VE DONE WITH 

2976
01:48:12,519 --> 01:48:13,119
COUNCILMEMBER LIN MARCH IS ON 

2977
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:15,689
NORTH AURORA. IT ALL LEADS TO, 

2978
01:48:15,689 --> 01:48:18,024
YOU KNOW, SEEING WHERE WE ARE ON

2979
01:48:18,024 --> 01:48:19,226
THE GROUND AND MAKING CHANGES. 

2980
01:48:19,226 --> 01:48:20,293
ONE LAST WORD TO MR. DAWSON. 

2981
01:48:20,293 --> 01:48:21,394
-- YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 

2982
01:48:21,394 --> 01:48:22,863
WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE 

2983
01:48:22,863 --> 01:48:25,532
CHAIR, I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT 

2984
01:48:25,532 --> 01:48:26,933
COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE 

2985
01:48:26,933 --> 01:48:28,068
INTERESTED IN AMENDMENT, WHETHER

2986
01:48:28,068 --> 01:48:31,371
IT IS ONE THAT WOULD CLARIFY ANY

2987
01:48:31,371 --> 01:48:33,773
TERMS LIKE MR. OR COUNCILMEMBER 

2988
01:48:33,773 --> 01:48:36,343
SAKA AND COUNCILMEMBER LIN HAVE 

2989
01:48:36,343 --> 01:48:37,677
SUGGESTED OR ANY ANY OTHER 

2990
01:48:37,677 --> 01:48:38,478
OPTIONS THAT YOU MAY WISH TO 

2991
01:48:38,478 --> 01:48:39,279
CONSIDER? AYE. I'D ASK, PLEASE,

2992
01:48:39,279 --> 01:48:41,414
THAT YOU GET TO CENTRAL STAFF 

2993
01:48:41,414 --> 01:48:47,287
THIS WEEK. THIS SUBJECT IS NOT 

2994
01:48:47,287 --> 01:48:49,656
JUST A POLICY CHALLENGE, BUT 

2995
01:48:49,656 --> 01:48:51,024
ALSO SOMETIMES CAN BE LEGAL 

2996
01:48:51,024 --> 01:48:52,325
CHALLENGES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING

2997
01:48:52,325 --> 01:48:54,227
ABOUT THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM.

2998
01:48:54,227 --> 01:48:55,996
SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT ANY OF 

2999
01:48:55,996 --> 01:48:57,130
THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU ALL WANT

3000
01:48:57,130 --> 01:49:00,567
TO SEEK WILL TAKE SOME TIME FOR 

3001
01:49:00,567 --> 01:49:02,035
THE LAW DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW. SO

3002
01:49:02,035 --> 01:49:03,069
I'D ASK, PLEASE, IF YOU COULD 

3003
01:49:03,069 --> 01:49:04,738
GET AHOLD OF ME THIS WEEK, THAT 

3004
01:49:04,738 --> 01:49:05,205
WOULD BE APPRECIATED. 

3005
01:49:05,205 --> 01:49:06,206
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. 

3006
01:49:06,206 --> 01:49:08,542
DOSS. OF COURSE, THIS IS A 

3007
01:49:08,542 --> 01:49:08,842
BEAUTIFULLY 

3008
01:49:08,842 --> 01:49:09,175
-- [LAUGHTER] 

3009
01:49:09,175 --> 01:49:09,576
-- DRAFTED BILL. 

3010
01:49:09,576 --> 01:49:09,910
-- [LAUGHTER] 

3011
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:14,214
-- SO I, YOU KNOW, BUT YES, YES,

3012
01:49:14,214 --> 01:49:15,115
PLEASE, COLLEAGUES, LOOK AT THE 

3013
01:49:15,115 --> 01:49:16,383
OIG REPORT THAT WE HAD THE, YOU 

3014
01:49:16,383 --> 01:49:18,385
KNOW, THE APRIL 28th MEETING, 

3015
01:49:18,385 --> 01:49:20,186
WHAT WE'VE JUST DONE WITH CARE 

3016
01:49:20,186 --> 01:49:21,922
AND SO FORTH, AND THEN WORK WITH

3017
01:49:21,922 --> 01:49:23,924
MR. DOSS AND AND OBVIOUSLY MY 

3018
01:49:23,924 --> 01:49:25,692
TEAM AS WELL. OKAY. WITH THAT, 

3019
01:49:25,692 --> 01:49:26,693
WE'VE REACHED THE END OF 

3020
01:49:26,693 --> 01:49:28,628
TODAY'S MEETING AGENDA. IF 

3021
01:49:28,628 --> 01:49:29,863
THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS NOT

3022
01:49:29,863 --> 01:49:30,864
SEEING BEFORE WE ADJOURN. NOPE, 

3023
01:49:30,864 --> 01:49:32,599
NOPE, NOPE. HEARING NO FURTHER 

3024
01:49:32,599 --> 01:49:33,433
BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE 

3025
01:49:33,433 --> 01:49:34,568
COMMIT

