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CHANNEL. GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S 

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GOOD TO SEE ALL YOU, FOLKS, HERE

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TODAY. TODAY IS -- I AM GOING TO

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CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER, TODAY

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IS MAY 20th, THIS IS A MEETING 

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OF THE PARKS AND CITY LIGHT 

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COMMITTEE, IT WILL NOW COME TO 

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ORDER, IT IS I HAVE 2:03. 

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DEBORAH WAR AS, FOR THE ROLE? 

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>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

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>> HERE. 

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>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

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>> HERE. 

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>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? 

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>> PRESENT. 

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>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? 

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>> HERE. 

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>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

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>> PRESENT. 

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>> WE HAVE A QUORUM. 

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>> LET'S MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF

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THE AGENDA, IF THERE IS NO 

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ANY, THE AGENDA IS INDEED 

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ADOPTED. TODAY, FOLKS, WE WILL 

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HAVE THREE PUBLIC COMMENT 

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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ITEMS 

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ON THE AGENDA AND COMMENTS 

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SHOULD BE RELATED TO TODAY'S 

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AGENDA AND WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF

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THE COMMITTEE. THE SECOND IS A 

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PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FIRST 

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AGENDA ITEM, COUNSEL BILL 121199

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WHICH WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 

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RIGHT TO THE STATE OF 

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WASHINGTON. COMMENTS DURING THIS

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TO THAT SPECIFIC COUNCIL BILL. 

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IS COUNCIL BILL 121-2111 WHICH 

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TO THE SPECIFIC COUNCIL BILL. 

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SO, TODAY, WE HAVE SIX 

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ORDINANCES AND ONE RESOLUTION ON

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THE AGENDA. I AM GOING TO 

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CHAIR, WHAT OUR AGENDA LOOKS 

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LIKE AND THEN WE WILL GET GOING.

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SO, AS I SHARED, THERE ARE SIX 

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ORDINANCES, ONE RESOLUTION. THE 

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FIRST ORDINANCE IN WHICH WE WILL

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HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN

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ACT LAND DEED ACCEPTANCE. THIS 

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PRESENTATION SPEAKS TO THE 

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UTILITIES, ENVIRONMENTAL 

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MITIGATION EFFORTS UNDER THE 

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ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. THIS IS 

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PART OF THE CITY LIGHTS ONGOING 

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WATERSHEDS, THERE WILL BE A 

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CITY LIGHT AND THOSE FOLKS AT 

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FIVE PAGE POWERPOINT TO GO WITH 

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THEIR PRESENTATION. THE SECOND 

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ORDINANCE IS AN EASEMENT 

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PROPERTY IN BELLEVUE TO PUGET 

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SOUND ENERGY FOR FAIR MARKET 

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VALUE PAYMENT. THAT IS A SEVEN 

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PAGE POWERPOINT WHICH THEY WILL 

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KING COUNTY FOR FAIR MARKET 

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PRESENTATION WILL BE PRESENTED 

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FOURTH ORDINANCE, AGAIN, WE WILL

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HEARING IS APPROVING THE 

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APPLICATION OF A FOR DISTRICT 1,

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BENEFIT RATING SYSTEM. MY 

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PRESENTATION WILL BE WITH OUR 

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OWN KARINA BULL FROM CENTRAL 

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STUFF, AND WE HAVE FOLKS FROM 

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DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES,

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FIFTH AND SIX ORDINANCES, ALLOW 

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SEATTLE PARKS AND RECREATION TO 

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RENEW LEASES WITH THE MADISON 

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PARK COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL IN 

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DISTRICT 3, TO OPERATE AND 

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MANAGE THE MADISON PARK 

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BATHHOUSE, AND WITH VICTORY 

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HEIGHTS COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL IN

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SHELTER HOUSE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 

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10 YEARS. BOTH OF THESE 

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YEARS. THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE

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BY MICHELE FINNEGAN, THE PARKS 

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INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT AND HER 

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STAFF. THE FINAL ITEM ON THE 

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AGENDA IS A RESOLUTION ABOUT 

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DATA CENTERS, THIS COMES AS A 

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RAPID INCREASE OF DATA CENTERS, 

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AND CONTINUES TO BOOM IN A.I. 

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THE RESOLUTION ADDRESSES THE 

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NEED FOR CITY DEPARTMENTS TO 

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EFFECTS OF DATA CENTERS ON OUR 

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CITY, RESIDENTS, AND NATURAL 

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RESOURCES. TODAY WILL JUST BE 

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PRESENTATION ONLY, WE WILL NOT 

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BE VOTING ON THAT. SO, WE HAVE 

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SIX PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND 

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THEN OF COURSE, ONE RESOLUTION, 

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DISCUSSION ONLY. AND I JUST WANT

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TO ADD THAT COUNCILMEMBER LYNN, 

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WHO IS THE CHAIR OF LAND-USE, 

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HAS HIS COMMITTEE ON THE SAME 

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DAY AS US EXCEPT HIS COMMITTEE 

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IS AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING, SO I 

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JUNE 3rd, COMMISSIONER LIN, IN 

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HIS COMMITTEE, WILL BE VOTING ON

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A DATA CENTER RETORT THEM AND IN

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OUR JUNE 3rd AT 2:00, WHEN WE 

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COME NEXT, AND HOPEFULLY, AT 

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THAT POINT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO 

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HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON

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THE DATA CENTER RESOLUTION, SO 

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THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY 

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INCLUDING STAFF WILL HAVE MORE 

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INFORMATION AND MORE COVERAGE 

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ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND WHERE WE 

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ARE HEADED, SO WITH THAT, WE ARE

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NOW GOING TO MOVE TO -- OKAY. 

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PAUL, PLEASE NOTIFY REMOTE 

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SPEAKERS TO CHECK EMAIL. OKAY. 

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FOR CORRECTED PASSCODE. OKAY, 

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FROM I.T.? OKAY. SO, THAT IS THE

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NOTE, EVERYBODY, THE SECRET NOTE

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I JUST GOT. PLEASE NOTIFY REMOTE

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CORRECTED PASSCODE. OKAY, PUBLIC

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COMMENT. WE WILL NOW USE THE 

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HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, 

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PUBLIC COMMENTS SHOULD BE 

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RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S 

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AGENDA AND WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF

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THIS COMMITTEE. CLERK, HOW MANY 

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FOLKS DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP 

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TODAY? 

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>> CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 19 IN 

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PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND 

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NINE REMOTE SPEAKERS, FOR 28, 

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TOTAL. 

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>> SAY IT AGAIN, WE HAVE HOW 

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MANY IN PERSON? 

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>> 19 IN PERSON. 

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>> OKAY, AND QUACKS 

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>> NINE REMOTE. 

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>> OKAY, GREAT. SO, SINCE WE 

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HAVE 29, SO, THAT IS LESS THAN 

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30 PEOPLE, EVERYBODY WILL GET 

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TWO MINUTES, IS THAT CORRECT, 

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PAUL? DON'T YOU HAVE TO READ 

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SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE? ARE YOU

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READY TO READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ?

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>> YOU WANT ME TO READ THE 

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RULES? 

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>> YEAH. 

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>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 

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FOLLOWING MANNER, THE PUBLIC 

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COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 60 

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MINUTES UNLESS EXTENDED AT THE 

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DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE 

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CHAIR. SPIEGEL'S WILL BE CALLED

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IN THE ORDER THEY ARE 

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REGISTERED, WE WILL BEGIN WITH 

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IN PERSON SPEAKERS THEN MOVED TO

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REMOTE SPEAKERS, UNTIL THE 

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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD HAS ENDED,

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SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN 

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10 SECONDS ARE LEFT IN THEIR 

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TIME. SPEAKERS' MICS WILL BE 

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MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END THERE 

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COMMENTS IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. 

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THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW

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OPEN FOR IN PERSON COMMENTERS. 

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THE FIRST PERSON -- 

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>> OKAY, HOLD UP, PAUL. LET'S 

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START WITH THE FIRST 10 IN 

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PERSON, AND THEN WE WILL GO TO 

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THE NINE REMOTE, AND THEN WE 

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WILL COME BACK FOR THE LAST NINE

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IN PERSON, SO LET'S QUEUE UP 

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THE FIRST 10, AND IF PEOPLE 

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COULD BE READY TO GO, THREE AT A

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TIME, CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE, 

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THEN WE CAN JUST MOVE ALONG 

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QUICKLY. SO, GO AHEAD AND START 

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NAMING OUT THE FIRST THREE. 

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>> THE FIRST 10 IN PERSON 

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SPEAKERS ARE EMILY JOHNSON, EVAN

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SUTTON, MICHELLE HOUSEMAN, 

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AUDREY WANG GAZLAN AND GOODRICH,

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BRADLEY DOSE, REBECCA YOUNG, 

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PATRICK McKEE, AND AMELIA 

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ALBERT. 

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>> SO, THE FIRST THREE ARE ? 

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>> FIRST THREE ARE EMILY 

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JOHNSON, EVAN SUTTON, AND 

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MICHELLE HOUSEMAN. 

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>> IF YOU THREE COULD COME UP 

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AND QUEUE UP, THAT WOULD BE 

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GREAT. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, THE 

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FIRST THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO

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UNDERSTAND, IS THAT THESE DATA 

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CENTERS ARE NOT, IN ANY WAY, A 

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NORMAL BUSINESS. COMPANIES OFTEN

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OBJECT TO WHAT THEY CALL BEING 

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"SINGLED OUT" FOR DEFERENTIAL 

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TREATMENT, LIKE HIGHER RATES FOR

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POWER. BUT, IN THIS CASE, THAT 

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IS ABSURD. THE LARGE LANGUAGE 

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MODELS THAT REQUIRE THESE 

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MASSIVE DATA CENTERS DIDN'T 

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EXIST, EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO. AND 

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YET, THEY ARE PROJECTED TO USE 

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BETWEEN 9% AND 20% OF ALL U.S. 

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ELECTRICITY BY 2030. AN IMPACT 

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LIKE THAT ABSOLUTELY MERITS 

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SPECIAL SCRUTINY. WITH HER 

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VORACIOUS APPETITE, THEY HAVE 

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SINGLED THEMSELVES OUT, AND WE 

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HAVE A LEGITIMATE INTEREST IN 

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ASSESSING WHAT PART WE WANT TO 

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PLAY IN SUPPORTING THAT 

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APPETITE. THE SILVER LINING IS 

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THAT, AS A RESULT OF THAT 

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UNDENIABLY LEGITIMATE INTEREST, 

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THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL HAS 

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SOME LEVERAGE OVER THESE 

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COMPANIES. EVEN WHEN THEY INTEND

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TO SITE THEIR DATA CENTERS IN 

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TUKWILA, SINCE THIS COMMITTEE 

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HAS OVERSIGHT OF SEATTLE CITY 

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LIGHT, WHICH WOULD SERVE THEM. 

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SO, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO 

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HELP TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS IN

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TUKWILA, TOO, TO SET HIGH 

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MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR UNDER WHAT

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CIRCUMSTANCES -- IF ANY -- WE 

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DECIDE TO PROVIDE THEM THE 

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MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY 

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THAT THEY DESIRE. THANK YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. 

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CHAIR JUAREZ, AS A DISTRICT FIVE

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RESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK 

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YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS 

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ISSUE. 

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>> I LIKE YOUR T-SHIRT. 

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>> THANK YOU. SEATTLE PRIDE. I 

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WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING 

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THAT I AM SURE WE WILL HEAR FROM

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SOMEONE TODAY AND THAT WE ARE 

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HEARING OVER AND OVER. BECAUSE 

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IT IS PART OF A COORDINATED 

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MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN, THAT 

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THE A.I. INDUSTRY IS SPENDING 

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HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS 

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TO PUSH IN ALL OF OUR 

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COMMUNITIES, IT'S SOMETHING 

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THAT'S FAMILIAR TO ALL OF US 

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BECAUSE IT COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF

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THE BIG TOBACCO AND BIG OIL 

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PLAYBOOK. WHAT THEY ARE SAYING 

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-- AND WHAT WE WILL NO DOUBT 

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HEAR -- IS THAT DATA CENTERS ARE

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NOTHING NEW. YOU NEED DATA 

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CENTERS TO RUN YOUR PHONE, TO 

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CHECK YOUR EMAIL. SEATTLE 

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ALREADY HAS 30 PLUS DATA 

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CENTERS. NO BIG DEAL. IT'S 

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TRUE, THAT SEATTLE ALREADY HAS 

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30 PLUS DATA CENTERS, AND THOSE 

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30 PLUS DATA CENTERS, ACCORDING 

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TO REPORTING, DRAW A TOTAL OF 

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AROUND 155 MEGAWATTS OF POWER. 

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THE FIVE PROPOSED HYPER- SCALE 

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DATA CENTERS THAT KICKED OFF 

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THIS WHOLE SHIT SHOW PARDON MY 

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FRENCH, WOULD HAVE DRAWN A WHOLE

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370 MEGAWATTS OF POWER, AND 

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THESE ARE BABIES IN THE HYPER- 

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SCALE DATA CENTER WORLD. MOST 

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HYPER- SCALED DATA CENTERS TODAY

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ARE BEING MEASURED IN GIGAWATTS.

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COMPARING THE 30 WE HAVE IN 

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SEATTLE TO THE ONES THEY ARE 

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TRYING TO BUILD HERE AND THAT 

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THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD ALL 

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OVER THE COUNTRY, IS LIKE 

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SAYING, "MY BEARDED DRAGON IS 

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THE SAME AS GODZILLA." IT'S 

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PREPOSTEROUS. IT'S INTENTIONAL 

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MISINFORMATION BEING SPREAD, AND

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WE CANNOT ALLOW THE INDUSTRY TO 

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CONFUSE VOTERS ON THE DIFFERENCE

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BETWEEN A TRADITIONAL DATA 

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CENTER THAT POWERS YOUR PHONE, 

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AND A HYPER SCALE, THEY I A.I. 

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DATA CENTER, WHOSE ONLY PURPOSE 

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IS TO REPLACE JOBS, THEY WANT TO

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REPLACE EVERYONE, FROM NURSES, 

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TO FAST FOOD CASHIERS, TO THE 

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AGENTS WHO DRIVE THEM, WITH 

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CHATBOTS, THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF

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THESE DATA CENTERS AND WE MUST 

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REGULATE THEM. 

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>> WAIT, I WANT TO ASK YOU A 

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QUESTION. I DON'T NORMALLY DO 

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THIS, BUT I WOULD JUST TAKE THE 

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CHAIR'S PRIVILEGE, HERE. WHAT 

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IS YOUR NAME, AGAIN? 

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>> EVAN. 

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>> EVAN, IF YOU CAN GET A HOLD 

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OF OUR OFFICE LATER, TO WALK US 

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THROUGH SOME OF THAT -- I HAVE 

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NOT HEARD THE TERM "HYPER," 

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BEFORE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN 

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DOING THE RESEARCH AND THEN 

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SOME, I WILL SHARE MORE LATER. 

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SO, IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO MY

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OFFICE, AND SOMEBODY IN MY STAFF

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IS WATCHING SO I WILL -- NOT 

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YOU, PAUL. HE WILL LET SOMEONE 

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ELSE FROM OUR OFFICE KNOW AND 

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TALK TO YOU, SO IF WE COULD GET 

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MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU? 

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>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, THANK 

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YOU. 

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>> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. 

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>> THE NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER IS 

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MICHELLE HOUSEMAN, FOLLOWED BY 

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AUDREY AND THEN ANNE GOODRICH. 

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>> HI, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY 

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COMMENT, MY NAME IS MICHELLE 

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HOUSEMAN AND I AM URGING YOU TO 

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VOTE YES FOR THE MORATORIUM OF 

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DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY OF 

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SEATTLE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT 

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THE DATA CENTER IMPACT ON OUR 

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POWER GRID, THE COST OF 

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ELECTRICITY, AND THE USAGE OF 

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WATER THAT THESE CENTERS 

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REQUIRE. ALSO, WE HAVE NOT DONE 

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OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND FULLY 

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RESEARCHED ALL POTENTIAL 

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OUTCOMES. BUT, MOSTLY, THOUGH, I

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AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUR 

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NEIGHBORS, WHO WILL LIVE IN 

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PROXIMITY TO THESE CENTERS. WHAT

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WILL IT BE LIKE FOR THEM, TO 

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LIVE NEXT TO THESE VISUAL BLIGHT

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OF WINDOWLESS INDUSTRIAL 

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COMPLEXES, THAT CREATES CONSTANT

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NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION? I KNOW 

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I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO

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THOSE AND I AM SURE ANYBODY ON 

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THE COUNCIL WOULDN'T WANT TO 

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LIVE NEXT TO ONE OF THOSE, 

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EITHER. AS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER,

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ONE OF YOUR ROLES IS TO CREATE 

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POLICIES THAT SHAPE OUR 

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COMMUNITY AND I WOULD HOPE THAT 

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YOU CHOOSE POLICIES THAT SUPPORT

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THE PHYSICAL, SOCIAL, WELL-BEING

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OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS OVER THE 

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INTEREST OF OUT-OF-STATE 

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CORPORATIONS. PLEASE CHOOSE 

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SEATTLE, CHOOSE TRANSPARENCY, 

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AND CHOOSE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. 

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VOTE YES ON THE MORATORIUM. 

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THANK YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU SPEAK, 

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LET ME ASK OUR CLERK A QUESTION.

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PAUL, WE POSTED THE PROPOSED 

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RESOLUTION, CORRECT? IT'S 

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ONLINE? OKAY. GO AHEAD. 

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>> HI, MY NAME IS AUDREY, I AM 

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AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER 

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SPECIALIZING IN POWER AND 

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ELECTRICAL ENERGY AND I LIVE IN 

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DISTRICT TWO. I SIT ON THE BOARD

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OF DIRECTORS OF SEATTLE CITY 

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LIGHT AND AN ORGANIZATION FOR 

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LGBTQ PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK IN 

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CLIMATE. AS AN EXPERT IN THE 

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FIELD OF SUSTAINABILITY, I AM 

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HERE TO URGE YOU TO APPROVE THE 

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MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS. A 

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PHRASE OFTEN UTTERED WITHIN THE 

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TECH INDUSTRY IS, "MOVE FAST AND

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BREAK THINGS." WE MUST NOT LET 

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THEM MOVE FAST AND BREAK OUR 

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CRITICAL ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. 

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OUR POWER GRID IS NOT PREPARED 

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TO HANDLE LARGE LOAD DATA 

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CENTERS. DATA CENTERS IN SEATTLE

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WOULD MEAN HIGHER ELECTRICITY 

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PRICES FOR SEATTLEITES, WHO ARE 

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ALREADY STRAINED BY THE HIGH 

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COST OF LIVING. RECENTLY CANNOT 

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BEAR THAT COST. A MORATORIUM 

451
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WILL GIVE US TIME TO MAKE SURE 

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WE HAVE THE RIGHT SAFEGUARDS TO 

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PROTECT OUR CITY FROM THE 

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ENVIRONMENTAL AND FINANCIAL 

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RISKS OF LARGE LOAD DATA 

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CENTERS. IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE 

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CHANGE AND THE GLOBAL ENERGY 

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CRISIS, WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON 

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MEETING OUR MISSIONS TARGETS 

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THROUGH THE BUILDOUT OF CLEAN 

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ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL 

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POWER THE CITY AND ITS 

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INHABITANTS, RATHER THAN DATA 

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CENTERS THAT ONLY BENEFIT 

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CORPORATIONS AND A SMALL HANDFUL

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OF SHAREHOLDERS. THANK YOU. 

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>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A 

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QUESTION REALLY QUICK, TOO. I 

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NORMALLY DON'T DO THIS, BUT -- 

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>> SURE. 

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>> WERE YOU ON THE WEBINAR FROM 

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ALICE LOCKHART, AT 3:50 WHEN WE 

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WERE ON THE WEBINAR EARLIER? 

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>> NO. 

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>> OKAY, BUT YOU KNOW WHO ALICE 

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IS, ALICE LOCKHART FROM 350? 

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>> OH, YES, I KNOW WHO ALICE IS.

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>> ALL RIGHT, I THOUGHT I 

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RECOGNIZED YOUR NAME FROM THE 

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WEBINAR, BUT, THANK YOU. 

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>> THANKS. AN 

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>> -- GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD 

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AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY 

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NAME IS ANNE GOODRICH AND I AM 

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HERE ON BEHALF OF MADISON 

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COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL. FOR OVER 

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50 YEARS, OUR COOPERATIVE 

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PRESCHOOL HAS SERVED SEATTLE 

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FAMILIES FROM THE HISTORIC 

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BATHHOUSE BUILDING IN MADISON 

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PARK, THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP 

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WITH SEATTLE PARKS AND 

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RECREATION. TODAY, WE SERVE 

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APPROXIMATELY 130 CHILDREN AND 

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FAMILIES EACH YEAR THROUGH OUR 

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CAREGIVER COOPERATIVE MODEL. 

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WHAT MAKES OUR PRESCHOOL UNIQUE 

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IS THAT IT IS ENTIRELY 

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CAREGIVER-VOLUNTEER LEAD. 

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CAREGIVERS ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED

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IN THE CLASSROOM, SCHOOL 

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OPERATIONS, FUNDING, 

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MAINTENANCE, AND COMMUNITY 

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BUILDING. FAMILIES ARE NOT 

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SIMPLY DROPPING CHILDREN OFF, 

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THEY ARE LEARNING ALONGSIDE 

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THEM, AND BUILDING LASTING 

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CONNECTIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER AND

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WITH THEIR COMMUNITY. OUR 

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PARTNERSHIP WITH SEATTLE PARKS 

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AND RECREATION HAS BEEN 

512
00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:18,277
INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE 

513
00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:19,778
OUR MISSIONS ALIGN SO NATURALLY.

514
00:16:19,778 --> 00:16:20,379
TOGETHER, WE HELP STEWARD A 

515
00:16:20,379 --> 00:16:22,247
BELOVED PUBLIC SPACE WHILE 

516
00:16:22,247 --> 00:16:30,456
CREATING AN ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITY

517
00:16:30,456 --> 00:16:31,290
CENTER OF EARLY LEARNING 

518
00:16:31,290 --> 00:16:31,857
ENVIRONMENT FOR SEATTLE 

519
00:16:31,857 --> 00:16:32,925
FAMILIES. THE BATHHOUSE IS NOT 

520
00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:34,560
JUST A BUILDING TO US. IT IS A 

521
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,194
GATHERING PLACE, A COMMUNITY 

522
00:16:35,194 --> 00:16:36,495
ANCHOR, AND A HOME FOR 

523
00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:37,062
GENERATIONS OF CHILDREN AND 

524
00:16:37,062 --> 00:16:42,735
FAMILIES. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL

525
00:16:42,735 --> 00:16:44,036
FOR THE STRONG WORKING 

526
00:16:44,036 --> 00:16:45,037
RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE BUILT WITH 

527
00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:46,105
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR MANY 

528
00:16:46,105 --> 00:16:47,272
YEARS, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK 

529
00:16:47,272 --> 00:16:48,340
FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN SECURING A 

530
00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:49,808
LONG-TERM, 10 YEAR LEASE SO WE 

531
00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:51,110
CAN CONTINUE SERVING SEATTLE 

532
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:51,744
FAMILIES FOR DECADES TO COME. 

533
00:16:51,744 --> 00:16:52,978
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND 

534
00:16:52,978 --> 00:16:53,345
CONSIDERATION. 

535
00:16:53,345 --> 00:16:53,712
>> THANK YOU. 

536
00:16:53,712 --> 00:16:54,713
>> THE NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER IS 

537
00:16:54,713 --> 00:16:55,614
ALICIA GELSON, FOLLOWED BY 

538
00:16:55,614 --> 00:16:56,849
BRADLEY DOSHI, AND REBECCA 

539
00:16:56,849 --> 00:17:01,954
YOUNG. 

540
00:17:01,954 --> 00:17:03,756
>> HI. MY NAME IS ALICIA. I LIVE

541
00:17:03,756 --> 00:17:07,393
IN DISTRICT 3 AND I AM HERE TO 

542
00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:09,228
URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON DATA 

543
00:17:09,228 --> 00:17:13,432
CENTER MORATORIUM. I AM GOING TO

544
00:17:13,432 --> 00:17:15,534
SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE 

545
00:17:15,534 --> 00:17:16,335
FROM THE HEART ON THIS ONE. WE 

546
00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:17,836
ARE IN A CLIMATE CRISIS. WE KNOW

547
00:17:17,836 --> 00:17:22,674
THIS. AND IT IS TIME FOR US TO 

548
00:17:22,674 --> 00:17:30,816
ACT URGENTLY. BUILDING DATA 

549
00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:32,017
CENTERS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF

550
00:17:32,017 --> 00:17:33,619
WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING, IF WE 

551
00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:34,887
WANT TO BE ACTING URGENTLY IN 

552
00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:37,723
THE FACE OF A CLIMATE CRISIS. 

553
00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,124
THE TECH COMPANIES THAT WANT TO 

554
00:17:39,124 --> 00:17:40,058
BUILD THESE DATA CENTERS HAVE 

555
00:17:40,058 --> 00:17:40,893
WALKED DR. CLIMATE COMMITMENTS 

556
00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:41,894
AND CLIMATE GOALS BECAUSE THEY 

557
00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,695
WANT TO BUILD THE A.I. OF THE 

558
00:17:43,695 --> 00:17:49,968
FUTURE. THESE DATA CENTERS NEED 

559
00:17:49,968 --> 00:17:51,537
JUST INSANE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY 

560
00:17:51,537 --> 00:17:55,541
AND WATER. WE DO NOT HAVE THE 

561
00:17:55,541 --> 00:17:56,575
ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE 

562
00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:57,676
WATER TO SUPPORT THESE MEGA 

563
00:17:57,676 --> 00:18:00,879
CENTER DATA CENTERS. WE ARE 

564
00:18:00,879 --> 00:18:06,218
GOING INTO OUR FOURTH YEAR OF 

565
00:18:06,218 --> 00:18:07,486
DROUGHT. I HAVE LIVED IN 

566
00:18:07,486 --> 00:18:13,459
WASHINGTON MY WHOLE LIFE, AND 

567
00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:14,493
THE WATER, THE WETNESS, THE 

568
00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:15,661
GREENNESS OF THIS STATE, ISN'T 

569
00:18:15,661 --> 00:18:18,831
JUST SOMETHING I LOVE ABOUT IT, 

570
00:18:18,831 --> 00:18:20,299
IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS 

571
00:18:20,299 --> 00:18:22,334
A DEEP PART OF MY IDENTITY AS A 

572
00:18:22,334 --> 00:18:25,871
WASHINGTONIAN. AND I AM AFRAID 

573
00:18:25,871 --> 00:18:27,272
FOR THE FUTURE, NOT JUST FOR ME,

574
00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:35,347
BUT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, 

575
00:18:35,347 --> 00:18:36,448
WHERE THIS WATER, THIS LAND, THE

576
00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:37,149
FOOD, THE AIR, THAT IS PROVIDED 

577
00:18:37,149 --> 00:18:38,684
BY OUR EARTH, WILL NO LONGER BE 

578
00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:42,821
A RESOURCE THAT WE CAN RELY ON. 

579
00:18:42,821 --> 00:18:44,656
AND WE ARE REALLY GOING TO RUN 

580
00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:45,457
HEAD ON INTO CLIMATE 

581
00:18:45,457 --> 00:18:50,162
CATASTROPHE, IF WE SAY "YES" TO 

582
00:18:50,162 --> 00:18:51,430
A.I., AND NOT "YES" TO BUILDING 

583
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:52,531
THE RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT WE 

584
00:18:52,531 --> 00:18:53,732
NEED. WE CAN HAVE GREAT JOBS, 

585
00:18:53,732 --> 00:18:58,303
BUILDING MASS TRANSIT, HOMES, 

586
00:18:58,303 --> 00:18:59,538
WIND FARMS, SOLAR FARMS, THAT IS

587
00:18:59,538 --> 00:19:00,772
THE FUTURE I DREAM OF. THANK 

588
00:19:00,772 --> 00:19:01,073
YOU. 

589
00:19:01,073 --> 00:19:10,883
>> THANK YOU. 

590
00:19:10,883 --> 00:19:12,317
>> THE NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER IS 

591
00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:12,918
BRADLEY, FOLLOWED BY REBECCA 

592
00:19:12,918 --> 00:19:13,685
YOUNG AND PATRICK McKEE. 

593
00:19:13,685 --> 00:19:16,388
>> WELCOME, BRAD. 

594
00:19:16,388 --> 00:19:17,756
>> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME 

595
00:19:17,756 --> 00:19:18,824
IS BRADLEY, I AM IN COUNCIL 

596
00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:24,530
DISTRICT 3, I AM AT SEATTLE CITY

597
00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:25,464
LIGHT REPAIR, I WORK IN 

598
00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:26,298
RENEWABLE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT AND

599
00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:27,933
MICRO GRIDS. I FEEL GRATEFUL 

600
00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:28,500
THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS 

601
00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:29,935
MUNICIPALLY OWNED AND I CAN COME

602
00:19:29,935 --> 00:19:31,203
TO A COMMENT PERIOD LIKE THIS 

603
00:19:31,203 --> 00:19:32,404
AND TALK TO UTILITY. I WOULD 

604
00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:34,640
JUST LIKE TO READ SOME MISSION, 

605
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,674
VISION, AND VALUES, FROM THE 

606
00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:36,875
CITY LIGHT WEBSITE. CITY LIGHT 

607
00:19:36,875 --> 00:19:40,012
MISSION SAYS TO "PROVIDE OUR 

608
00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:44,116
CUSTOMERS," WHICH IS US, "WITH 

609
00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:45,017
AFFORDABLE, RELIABLE, AND 

610
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:52,691
ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE 

611
00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:53,759
ENERGY SERVICES, ITS VISION IS 

612
00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:54,893
TO CREATE A SHARED ENERGY FUTURE

613
00:19:54,893 --> 00:19:55,694
BY PARTNERING WITH OUR 

614
00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:57,029
CUSTOMERS," THAT IS US, "TO MEET

615
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:57,896
THEIR ENERGY NEEDS IN WHATEVER 

616
00:19:57,896 --> 00:19:59,031
WAY THEY CHOOSE." SOME VALUES 

617
00:19:59,031 --> 00:19:59,565
ARE, "CUSTOMERS FIRST, 

618
00:19:59,565 --> 00:20:00,465
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, 

619
00:20:00,465 --> 00:20:03,001
EQUITABLE COMMUNITY 

620
00:20:03,001 --> 00:20:08,941
CONNECTIONS," AMONG OTHERS. AND 

621
00:20:08,941 --> 00:20:09,942
SO, READING THESE ON THE 

622
00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:11,043
WEBSITE, I AM STRUGGLING TO SEE 

623
00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:12,578
HOW BUILDING DATA CENTERS ALIGNS

624
00:20:12,578 --> 00:20:13,512
WITH THESE GOALS, VISIONS, 

625
00:20:13,512 --> 00:20:17,416
VALUES, AND MISSIONS. IN THIS 

626
00:20:17,416 --> 00:20:23,155
2024 ANNUAL REPORT, CITY LIGHT 

627
00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:24,323
MENTIONS A PEAK DEMAND OF TWO 

628
00:20:24,323 --> 00:20:25,190
GIGAWATTS DURING JANUARY 2024, 

629
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:29,494
DURING THE COLD SNAP, WHICH IS 

630
00:20:29,494 --> 00:20:30,729
AN OUTLIER FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, 

631
00:20:30,729 --> 00:20:31,997
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT ONE 

632
00:20:31,997 --> 00:20:33,765
DATA CENTER ALONE CAN HIT TWO 

633
00:20:33,765 --> 00:20:37,836
GIGAWATTS, EASILY, WHICH IS AN 

634
00:20:37,836 --> 00:20:39,037
IMMENSE AMOUNT OF POWER, BUT AS 

635
00:20:39,037 --> 00:20:40,172
WE ARE SEEING IN THE TRENDS, 

636
00:20:40,172 --> 00:20:41,840
THEY ARE MOVING THAT DIRECTION 

637
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,943
AND GREATER. JUST THE ONE IN 

638
00:20:44,943 --> 00:20:46,144
UTAH ALONE IS NINE GIGAWATTS. 

639
00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:53,518
SO, IT IS INFURIATING TO SEE THE

640
00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:54,152
DISCUSSION AT CONFERENCES, AND 

641
00:20:54,152 --> 00:20:55,687
WITH CITY LIGHT LEADERS, TO 

642
00:20:55,687 --> 00:20:57,322
BRING ON NATURAL GAS, FOSSIL 

643
00:20:57,322 --> 00:20:59,891
FUEL GENERATED RESOURCES, TO 

644
00:20:59,891 --> 00:21:01,460
MEET THOSE DEMANDS. WE KNOW WE 

645
00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:03,662
CANNOT BRING ON MORE FOSSIL FUEL

646
00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:10,869
GENERATORS WITH NATURAL GAS AND 

647
00:21:10,869 --> 00:21:12,137
METHANE. SO, I URGE YOU TO 

648
00:21:12,137 --> 00:21:13,872
PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE DATA 

649
00:21:13,872 --> 00:21:16,475
CENTER MORATORIUM AND DO THE 

650
00:21:16,475 --> 00:21:17,643
RIGHT THING FOR US, THE 

651
00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:18,343
CUSTOMERS. THANK YOU. 

652
00:21:18,343 --> 00:21:27,386
>> THANK YOU, BRADLEY. 

653
00:21:27,386 --> 00:21:28,320
>> NEXT, IS REBECCA YOUNG, 

654
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,321
FOLLOWED BY PATRICK McKEE AND 

655
00:21:29,321 --> 00:21:29,755
AMELIA ALBERT. 

656
00:21:29,755 --> 00:21:30,789
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK 

657
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:38,230
YOU. MY NAME IS REBECCA YOUNG. I

658
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:39,231
AM A VOTER, PARENT, AND 

659
00:21:39,231 --> 00:21:40,565
HOMEOWNER IN DISTRICT 3 AND I AM

660
00:21:40,565 --> 00:21:41,566
HERE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG 

661
00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:42,668
SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED DATA 

662
00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:43,669
CENTER MORATORIUM. I AM DEEPLY 

663
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:44,469
CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL 

664
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:47,506
IMPACTS OF ADDITIONAL LARGE DATA

665
00:21:47,506 --> 00:21:48,340
CENTERS ON SEATTLE'S ELECTRIC 

666
00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:49,141
GRID AND CLIMATE COMMITMENTS. 

667
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:49,975
SEATTLE IS ALREADY MANAGING 

668
00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:51,009
RECORD HIGH ELECTRIC DEMAND DUE 

669
00:21:51,009 --> 00:21:53,445
TO ELECTRIC NEEDS, POPULATION 

670
00:21:53,445 --> 00:21:54,546
GROWTH, AND OUR LEGALLY BINDING 

671
00:21:54,546 --> 00:21:56,281
EMISSIONS TARGETS. LARGE DATA 

672
00:21:56,281 --> 00:21:59,484
CENTERS WOULD COMPETE FOR THE 

673
00:21:59,484 --> 00:22:00,419
SAME ELECTRICAL CAPACITY THAT IS

674
00:22:00,419 --> 00:22:01,386
URGENTLY NEEDED TO THE 

675
00:22:01,386 --> 00:22:10,062
CARBONIZED OUR CITY. PUBLIC 

676
00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:10,662
UTILITIES SHOULD PRIORITIZE 

677
00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:11,530
PUBLIC NEEDS, INCLUDING CLIMATE,

678
00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:12,664
OVER THE PROFIT INTERESTS OF BIG

679
00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:13,699
TECH. THESE LARGE DATA CENTERS 

680
00:22:13,699 --> 00:22:14,866
WOULD BE COMPETING FOR THAT SAME

681
00:22:14,866 --> 00:22:15,934
CAPACITY. I AM ALSO CONCERNED 

682
00:22:15,934 --> 00:22:16,735
ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE 

683
00:22:16,735 --> 00:22:22,541
IMPACTS OF LARGE DATA CENTERS. 

684
00:22:22,541 --> 00:22:23,608
NEW DATA CENTERS WOULD LIKELY BE

685
00:22:23,608 --> 00:22:24,643
PLACED IN SOUTH SEATTLE AND 

686
00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:25,544
TUKWILA, COMMUNITIES WHICH HAVE 

687
00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:33,151
HISTORICALLY BORNE THE BRUNT OF 

688
00:22:33,151 --> 00:22:34,152
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND 

689
00:22:34,152 --> 00:22:35,087
POLLUTION. THESE COMMUNITIES 

690
00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:35,654
SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS 

691
00:22:35,654 --> 00:22:36,688
SACRIFICE ZONES FOR DATA CENTER 

692
00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:37,255
EXPANSION WITHOUT A 

693
00:22:37,255 --> 00:22:37,989
COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION OF 

694
00:22:37,989 --> 00:22:38,990
POTENTIAL HARMS AND BENEFITS. I 

695
00:22:38,990 --> 00:22:44,463
URGE YOU TO PASS THIS DATA 

696
00:22:44,463 --> 00:22:45,597
CENTER MORATORIUM AND USE THIS 

697
00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:46,498
TIME TO PERFORM A COMPREHENSIVE 

698
00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:47,499
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REVIEW. I 

699
00:22:47,499 --> 00:22:48,300
ALSO URGE YOU TO ESTABLISH 

700
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,134
PROCESSES TO GUARANTEE PUBLIC 

701
00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:50,235
TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNITY BUY-IN, 

702
00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:54,272
AND DEMOCRATIC OVERSIGHT OF ANY 

703
00:22:54,272 --> 00:22:55,841
PROPOSED DATA CENTER PROJECTS. 

704
00:22:55,841 --> 00:22:56,775
THIS MORATORIUM WAS AN 

705
00:22:56,775 --> 00:22:58,577
OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO BE A

706
00:22:58,577 --> 00:23:09,121
LEADER FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES AND

707
00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:10,288
DEMONSTRATE HOW TO PRIORITIZE 

708
00:23:10,288 --> 00:23:10,956
PEOPLE, CLIMATE COMMITMENTS, AND

709
00:23:10,956 --> 00:23:11,590
DEMOCRATIC TRANSPARENCY OVER 

710
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:12,190
UNCHECKED, SPECULATIVE DATA 

711
00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:13,125
CENTER EXPANSION. I THANK YOU 

712
00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:14,192
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

713
00:23:14,326 --> 00:23:18,897
>> THANK YOU, REBECCA. 

714
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:19,898
>> NEXT, IS PATRICK McKEE, 

715
00:23:19,898 --> 00:23:20,899
FOLLOWED BY AMELIA ALBERT, AND 

716
00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:21,566
IN REMOTE SPEAKERS. 

717
00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:25,871
>> YEAH, HI, I LIVE IN WEST 

718
00:23:25,871 --> 00:23:27,339
SEATTLE, I AM A FATHER AND A 

719
00:23:27,339 --> 00:23:37,883
GRANDFATHER, AND I FULLY SUPPORT

720
00:23:42,654 --> 00:23:43,288
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM 

721
00:23:43,288 --> 00:23:44,489
COUNCILMEMBERS FOR A DATA CENTER

722
00:23:44,489 --> 00:23:45,290
MORATORIUM, NOT JUST IN SEATTLE,

723
00:23:45,290 --> 00:23:46,558
BUT IN THE GREATER CITY LIGHT 

724
00:23:46,558 --> 00:23:47,559
SERVICE AREA. I AM CONCERNED 

725
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:48,360
ABOUT DATA CENTERS INTENSIVE 

726
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,361
DEMANDS FOR POWER AND WATER, 

727
00:23:49,361 --> 00:23:50,195
RECENT PROPOSALS CALLED FOR 

728
00:23:50,195 --> 00:23:51,663
ADDING AS MUCH AS ONE THIRD OF 

729
00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:52,297
SEATTLE'S DAILY POWER 

730
00:23:52,297 --> 00:24:00,305
CONSUMPTION. OUR BEST HOPE FOR 

731
00:24:00,305 --> 00:24:01,506
CUTTING CLIMATE EMISSIONS IS TO 

732
00:24:01,506 --> 00:24:02,607
GREEN ELECTRIFY AS MUCH AS WE 

733
00:24:02,607 --> 00:24:04,409
CAN, AS FAST AS WE CAN, AND I AM

734
00:24:04,409 --> 00:24:05,343
CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CAPACITY TO 

735
00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:06,344
SUPPORT THIS INCREASED SUPPLY AT

736
00:24:06,344 --> 00:24:07,412
THE NECESSARY SCALE. I AM 

737
00:24:07,412 --> 00:24:08,046
CONCERNED ABOUT SUPPLY 

738
00:24:08,046 --> 00:24:09,080
REGIONWIDE. WE HAVE A COMMITMENT

739
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,515
TO HONOR A TREATY SIGNED OVER A 

740
00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:11,516
CENTURY AGO WITH THE TRIBES, 

741
00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:12,317
GUARANTEEING THEIR ABILITY TO 

742
00:24:12,317 --> 00:24:13,385
TAKE SALMON AND THOSE FISHERIES 

743
00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:14,653
DEPEND ON THE REMOVAL OF THE 

744
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:16,221
LOWER SNAKE RIVER DAMS FROM THE 

745
00:24:16,221 --> 00:24:18,356
GRID. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 

746
00:24:18,356 --> 00:24:19,324
IMPACTS OF ARTIFICIAL GENERAL 

747
00:24:19,324 --> 00:24:20,025
INTELLIGENCE ON HUMAN BRAIN 

748
00:24:20,025 --> 00:24:20,859
FUNCTION, CONCERNED ABOUT THE 

749
00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:21,760
INDUSTRY'S OWN PREDICTIONS OF 

750
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,661
THE DISPLACEMENT OF MILLIONS OF 

751
00:24:22,661 --> 00:24:23,495
WORKERS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT 

752
00:24:23,495 --> 00:24:24,729
BIG TECH THREAT TO DEMOCRACY SO 

753
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:26,164
THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES TO 

754
00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:27,165
CONSIDER WHEN WE PROPOSE TO 

755
00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:31,703
MULTIPLY ELECTORATE OF DEMAND 

756
00:24:31,703 --> 00:24:32,737
FOR THE STRATEGIES OF MONOPOLY 

757
00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:33,839
TECH INTEREST. AND I AM 

758
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,476
CONCERNED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. IT

759
00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:38,677
IS NOT CLEAR WHY OUR PUBLIC 

760
00:24:38,677 --> 00:24:39,711
UTILITY IS SIGNING NDAs WITH 

761
00:24:39,711 --> 00:24:41,146
TECH COMPANIES IN THE FIRST 

762
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:46,284
PLACE. MAYBE THERE ARE LARGER 

763
00:24:46,284 --> 00:24:47,085
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHOSE INTERESTS 

764
00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:48,153
ARE SERVED BY THE CURRENT 

765
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:49,087
COMPOSITION OF THE CITY LIGHT 

766
00:24:49,087 --> 00:24:50,121
REVIEW PANEL, BUT WITH THE 

767
00:24:50,121 --> 00:24:53,225
MORATORIUM IN PLACE, WE CAN 

768
00:24:53,225 --> 00:24:54,593
START TO HAVE SOME OF THESE 

769
00:24:54,593 --> 00:24:55,460
CONVERSATIONS. SO, THANK YOU FOR

770
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:56,394
YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. 

771
00:24:56,394 --> 00:24:57,762
>> THANK YOU, PATRICK. PATRICK, 

772
00:24:57,762 --> 00:25:01,166
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR 

773
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:10,642
BRINGING UP THE TRIBES, AND 

774
00:25:10,642 --> 00:25:12,110
ALSO, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR 

775
00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:13,478
BRINGING UP -- WHICH, WE WON'T 

776
00:25:13,478 --> 00:25:14,379
HAVE A COMPLETE DISCUSSION, I 

777
00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:15,413
DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS FOR 

778
00:25:15,413 --> 00:25:16,848
PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I KNOW IT IS 

779
00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:17,883
IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF THESE 

780
00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:19,117
ISSUES -- THAT, YOU KNOW, WE 

781
00:25:19,117 --> 00:25:20,118
SHOULD NOT BE OUTSOURCING OUR 

782
00:25:20,118 --> 00:25:21,319
CRITICAL THINKING AND NO ONE HAS

783
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:22,320
TALKED ABOUT THE HUMAN BRAIN 

784
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,122
STUFF, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. GO

785
00:25:24,122 --> 00:25:24,823
AHEAD. 

786
00:25:24,823 --> 00:25:25,857
>> NEXT SPEAKER IS AMELIA 

787
00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:26,658
ALBERT, FOLLOWED BY REMOTE 

788
00:25:26,658 --> 00:25:27,559
SPEAKERS. 

789
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,128
>> HI, MY NAME IS FAMILIAR, I AM

790
00:25:30,128 --> 00:25:31,796
A LIAISON WITH SEATTLE PARKS AND

791
00:25:31,796 --> 00:25:33,031
RECREATION FOR VICTORY HEIGHTS 

792
00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:40,138
PRESCHOOL. MY SON HAS ATTENDED 

793
00:25:40,138 --> 00:25:40,805
VICTORY HEIGHTS COOPERATIVE 

794
00:25:40,805 --> 00:25:41,806
PRESCHOOL FOR THE LAST THREE 

795
00:25:41,806 --> 00:25:43,008
YEARS AND THE PROGRAM ITSELF HAS

796
00:25:43,008 --> 00:25:44,276
BEEN AROUND FOR THE LAST 40 

797
00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:45,944
YEARS IN THE SEATTLE PARK 

798
00:25:45,944 --> 00:25:48,346
SHELTER HOUSE. TODAY, WE HAVE 42

799
00:25:48,346 --> 00:25:49,180
STUDENTS ATTENDING THE SCHOOL 

800
00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:50,248
AND FAMILY VOLUNTEERS KEEP THE 

801
00:25:50,248 --> 00:25:50,849
PRESCHOOL RUNNING. PRESCHOOL 

802
00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:51,783
FAMILIES TAKE CARE OF THE 

803
00:25:51,783 --> 00:25:53,418
BUILDING AND WORK WITH THE PARKS

804
00:25:53,418 --> 00:25:54,653
DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE IT IS 

805
00:25:54,653 --> 00:25:55,787
MAINTAINED AND SAFE. WE HAVE 

806
00:25:55,787 --> 00:25:57,122
ALWAYS MET OUR OBLIGATIONS WHILE

807
00:25:57,122 --> 00:25:57,822
SERVING THE CHILDREN AND 

808
00:25:57,822 --> 00:25:58,790
FAMILIES OF SEATTLE. WE LOVE OUR

809
00:25:58,790 --> 00:25:59,891
SCHOOL AND WE LOVE OUR 

810
00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:01,893
COMMUNITY. VICTORY HEIGHTS IS 

811
00:26:01,893 --> 00:26:02,861
ONE OF THE FEW AFFORDABLE 

812
00:26:02,861 --> 00:26:03,828
PRESCHOOL OPTIONS FOR FAMILIES 

813
00:26:03,828 --> 00:26:07,532
IN OUR AREA. THIS 10 YEAR LEASE 

814
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:08,166
WITH SEATTLE PARKS AND 

815
00:26:08,166 --> 00:26:09,200
RECREATION IS THE SECURITY IT 

816
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,435
NEEDS TO THRIVE. WE ARE LOOKING 

817
00:26:10,435 --> 00:26:13,305
FORWARD TO OUR LONG-TERM 

818
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:13,939
CONTRACT. THANK YOU. 

819
00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:20,211
>> THANK YOU. G.O., D5. 

820
00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:21,713
>> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO REMOTE

821
00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:23,014
SPEAKERS. THE FIRST REMOTE 

822
00:26:23,014 --> 00:26:24,015
SPEAKER IS SAGE WALLIN, FOLLOWED

823
00:26:24,015 --> 00:26:28,853
BY NINO. REMINDER FOR REMOTE 

824
00:26:28,853 --> 00:26:30,121
SPEAKERS -- WHEN YOU HEAR THE 

825
00:26:30,121 --> 00:26:31,690
PROMPT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN 

826
00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:35,627
UNMUTED, PRESS STAR SIX. 

827
00:26:35,627 --> 00:26:37,062
>> EACH SPEAKER HAS TWO MINUTES,

828
00:26:37,062 --> 00:26:38,330
SO, THAT'S -- SAGE, DO I SEE 

829
00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:42,100
SAGE ON HERE? STAR SIX, SAGE. 

830
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:42,400
>> HYBRID 

831
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,335
>> HI! 

832
00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:45,136
>> HI, AM I HERE? 

833
00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:46,004
>> YEP. 

834
00:26:46,004 --> 00:26:49,708
>> I AM JUST CALLING TO SUPPORT 

835
00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:51,443
THE MORATORIUM ON THE A.I. DATA 

836
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:56,881
CENTERS. I AM ACTIVELY VERY 

837
00:26:56,881 --> 00:26:58,016
TERRIFIED OF WHAT A.I. IS DOING 

838
00:26:58,016 --> 00:26:59,751
TO NOT ONLY OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR

839
00:26:59,751 --> 00:27:05,190
BRAINS, AND IT IS GOING TO 

840
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:06,157
DESTROY JOBS, IT'S NOT GOING TO

841
00:27:06,157 --> 00:27:07,492
BRING THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE

842
00:27:07,492 --> 00:27:08,860
WOULD EVER, HONESTLY, ENTERTAIN 

843
00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:11,363
THE IDEA OF LARGE-SCALE DATA 

844
00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:16,568
CENTERS IN SEATTLE. MY UTILITY 

845
00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:18,036
BILL IS ALREADY SO HIGH THAT I 

846
00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:20,739
CAN BARELY AFFORD TO LIVE. [ 

847
00:27:20,739 --> 00:27:22,307
LAUGHTER ] AND IF WE JUST 

848
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,408
INCREASE IT MORE, I AM VERY 

849
00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:26,478
SCARED FOR THAT. I AM REALLY 

850
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:28,913
HORRIFIED OF WHAT CERTAIN 

851
00:27:28,913 --> 00:27:37,989
NONSENSE ARE COMING OUT OF A.I.,

852
00:27:37,989 --> 00:27:39,124
BILLIONAIRES TALKING ABOUT HOW 

853
00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:40,392
INTELLIGENCE IS GOING TO BE 

854
00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:41,426
SOMETHING THAT IS A UTILITY THAT

855
00:27:41,426 --> 00:27:42,661
NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE, 

856
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:43,862
BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT A.I. IS 

857
00:27:43,862 --> 00:27:45,130
DOING TO OUR BRAINS. I JUST 

858
00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:46,097
REALLY HOPE THAT THIS MORATORIUM

859
00:27:46,097 --> 00:27:47,298
BECOMES A PERMANENT THING IN THE

860
00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:53,972
LONG TERM, BUT I AM REALLY 

861
00:27:53,972 --> 00:27:54,973
GRATEFUL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE 

862
00:27:54,973 --> 00:27:56,341
BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE

863
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:57,909
AND I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO PUSH 

864
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:58,610
IT THROUGH. THANK YOU. 

865
00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:00,845
>> THANK YOU, SAGE. 

866
00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:04,115
>> NEXT, IS NINO, FOLLOWED BY 

867
00:28:04,115 --> 00:28:06,985
PATRICK AND ARIANNA. 

868
00:28:06,985 --> 00:28:08,653
>> WHAT IS THE FIRST NAME? 

869
00:28:08,653 --> 00:28:10,255
>> NINO. 

870
00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:11,222
>> WHO? 

871
00:28:11,222 --> 00:28:18,196
>> NINO. 

872
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:18,997
>> NINO? OKAY. 

873
00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:20,231
>> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? 

874
00:28:20,231 --> 00:28:21,099
>> YES, GO AHEAD, NINO. 

875
00:28:21,099 --> 00:28:24,335
>> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. HI, MY 

876
00:28:24,335 --> 00:28:26,237
NAME IS NINO AND I AM A PHD 

877
00:28:26,237 --> 00:28:26,971
STUDENT IN SCIENCE AT THE 

878
00:28:26,971 --> 00:28:28,106
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND I 

879
00:28:28,106 --> 00:28:30,008
AM A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 4. I 

880
00:28:30,008 --> 00:28:34,079
WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY 

881
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,280
BECAUSE I FULLY SUPPORT A 

882
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,448
MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS. A.I.

883
00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:40,952
IS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT HAS ALSO

884
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:41,986
BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MY RESEARCH 

885
00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:48,026
OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND 

886
00:28:48,026 --> 00:28:49,227
THE MORE THAT I HAVE LEARNED, 

887
00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:50,562
THE MORE ASTOUNDED I HAVE BEEN 

888
00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:51,563
AND TERRIFIED, AS WAS MENTIONED.

889
00:28:51,563 --> 00:28:53,264
JUST IN TERMS OF THE MISSION 

890
00:28:53,264 --> 00:28:54,265
PROJECTIONS, ESTIMATE THAT A.I. 

891
00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:55,533
RELATED DATA CENTER EMISSIONS 

892
00:28:55,533 --> 00:29:00,438
WILL INCREASE TO ANYWHERE FROM 

893
00:29:00,438 --> 00:29:01,873
9% TO 20% IN THE NEXT FIVE 

894
00:29:01,873 --> 00:29:04,142
YEARS. THIS IS A VERY 

895
00:29:04,142 --> 00:29:09,581
UNPRECEDENTED CASE, IT IS MORE 

896
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:10,215
DIFFERENT AND SUBSTANTIAL AS A 

897
00:29:10,215 --> 00:29:11,249
MISSION THAN JUST THE INTERNET 

898
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:18,656
AND MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN VIDEO 

899
00:29:18,656 --> 00:29:19,557
STREAMING AND MORE SUBSTANTIAL 

900
00:29:19,557 --> 00:29:20,558
THAN EVEN THE AVIATION INDUSTRY.

901
00:29:20,558 --> 00:29:21,893
SO, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE 

902
00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:23,128
IN A CLIMATE CRISIS, WE CANNOT 

903
00:29:23,128 --> 00:29:24,662
AFFORD TO BE ADDING THESE EXTRA 

904
00:29:24,662 --> 00:29:25,597
EMISSIONS TO THE ATMOSPHERE, AND

905
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:29,100
HARMING THE ENVIRONMENT. AND 

906
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,101
ALTHOUGH TECH COMPANIES WILL SAY

907
00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:31,836
THAT THESE DATA CENTERS MIGHT BE

908
00:29:31,836 --> 00:29:35,240
POWERED WITH RENEWABLES, CASE 

909
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,541
STUDY AFTER CASE STUDY HAS SHOWN

910
00:29:36,541 --> 00:29:39,711
THAT THE REALITY IS VERY 

911
00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:40,845
DIFFERENT. THEY WILL KIND OF ADD

912
00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:44,249
RENEWABLE POWER SOURCES, EITHER 

913
00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:45,049
THROUGH SERVICE TO OFFSET SOME 

914
00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:50,889
OF THE ENERGY COST, BUT MUCH 

915
00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:51,689
MORE SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY IS 

916
00:29:51,689 --> 00:29:52,524
ADDED THROUGH NONRENEWABLE 

917
00:29:52,524 --> 00:29:53,958
SOURCES SUCH AS NATURAL GAS AND 

918
00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:57,829
FOSSIL FUELS. AND MORE THAN 

919
00:29:57,829 --> 00:29:58,730
THAT, I'M ALSO JUST REALLY 

920
00:29:58,730 --> 00:30:00,131
CONCERNED, FROM A SOCIAL JUSTICE

921
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:01,599
AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE 

922
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:06,805
PERSPECTIVE, I DO A LOT OF WORK 

923
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,006
WITH COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH 

924
00:30:08,006 --> 00:30:16,514
SEATTLE, AT A SUPERFUND SITE 

925
00:30:16,514 --> 00:30:17,482
WHICH IS ALREADY ALLERGIC TO 

926
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:18,616
POLLUTANTS. SO, I URGE YOU TO 

927
00:30:18,616 --> 00:30:19,984
MAKE A DECISION FOR A JUST AND 

928
00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:20,818
MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE AND PAST

929
00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:22,420
THE MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS 

930
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:24,989
IN SEATTLE. 

931
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:26,591
>> NEXT IS PATRICK, FOLLOWED BY 

932
00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:37,068
ARIANNA AND TILA. PATRICK, 

933
00:30:40,038 --> 00:30:40,605
PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX. 

934
00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:43,508
>> HI, I AM PAT KORMAN, DISTRICT

935
00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:47,445
1, BORN AND RAISED WASHINGTONIAN

936
00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:53,585
AND COMPUTER PROGRAMMER FOR OVER

937
00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:56,120
TWO DECADES AND I URGE APPROVING

938
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,721
THE DATA CENTER MORATORIUM. I 

939
00:30:56,721 --> 00:30:57,355
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN 

940
00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:59,657
NEW TECHNOLOGY AND READ A LOT OF

941
00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:00,325
SCI-FI AS A KID, BUT THESE LARGE

942
00:31:00,325 --> 00:31:00,959
DATA CENTERS ARE BEING PEDDLED 

943
00:31:00,959 --> 00:31:02,160
AS PART OF THE GOLDEN FUTURE I 

944
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,361
HAVE READ ABOUT, BUT WHAT IS 

945
00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:04,195
BEING DELIVERED ARE DESTRUCTIVE 

946
00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:05,029
SLUDGE FACTORIES. AS NOTED, 

947
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:05,997
THESE HYPER- SCALE DATA CENTERS 

948
00:31:05,997 --> 00:31:07,232
ARE NOTHING LIKE WHAT WE ALREADY

949
00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:08,466
HAVE. ONCE BUILT, THEY DO NOT 

950
00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:09,500
PROVIDE JOBS, BUT INSTEAD HAVE 

951
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:10,969
AN INSATIABLE NEED FOR ENERGY 

952
00:31:10,969 --> 00:31:20,411
RESOURCES, AND FOR TECH 

953
00:31:20,411 --> 00:31:21,646
COMPANIES, THEIR AIM IS FOR A.I.

954
00:31:21,646 --> 00:31:23,448
TO REPLACE AS MANY JOBS AS 

955
00:31:23,448 --> 00:31:28,620
POSSIBLE. WE ALREADY KNOW, FROM 

956
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:29,287
OTHERS' MISFORTUNES, THE TOLL 

957
00:31:29,287 --> 00:31:29,854
THAT THESE DATA CENTERS ARE 

958
00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:30,355
TAKING ON ENERGY COSTS, 

959
00:31:30,355 --> 00:31:30,955
ILLEGALLY TAPPED WATER LINES 

960
00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:33,157
RUINING THE ENVIRONMENT AND 

961
00:31:33,157 --> 00:31:33,691
PROPERTY TAX. SEATTLE HAS 

962
00:31:33,691 --> 00:31:34,292
ALREADY BEEN WORKING HARD TO 

963
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:34,893
REDUCE BURNING FUEL, WHICH IS 

964
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:35,526
GREAT, BUT THAT MEANS THERE IS 

965
00:31:35,526 --> 00:31:38,696
AN INCREASED LOAD ON THE GRID. 

966
00:31:38,696 --> 00:31:39,564
AND WITH THE CONTINUED RISE OF 

967
00:31:39,564 --> 00:31:40,698
GAS PRICES, ELECTRIC CARS ARE 

968
00:31:40,698 --> 00:31:41,332
LOOKING REAL ATTRACTIVE RIGHT 

969
00:31:41,332 --> 00:31:42,267
NOW AND I AM JUST NOT SEEING THE

970
00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:48,773
BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO 

971
00:31:48,773 --> 00:31:49,574
BUILD THESE NATURAL RESOURCE 

972
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:50,475
GUZZLING BUILDINGS WITH THE 

973
00:31:50,475 --> 00:31:51,876
INTENT TO REMOVE MORE JOBS AND 

974
00:31:51,876 --> 00:31:52,477
OVERLOAD AN ALREADY STRAINED 

975
00:31:52,477 --> 00:31:53,444
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. ON TOP OF 

976
00:31:53,444 --> 00:31:54,679
THIS, THESE DATA CENTERS ARE NOT

977
00:31:54,679 --> 00:31:55,813
PROFITABLE. ANYTHING THAT LOOKS 

978
00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:56,447
LIKE PROFITABILITY COMES FROM 

979
00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:58,149
DUMPING THE COSTS ONTO THE 

980
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:58,683
COMMUNITY, DISINGENUOUS 

981
00:31:58,683 --> 00:31:59,250
MESSAGING, AND SUPPORTING 

982
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:00,051
ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. TECH 

983
00:32:00,051 --> 00:32:09,994
COMPANIES LIKE TO BRAG THAT THEY

984
00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:11,229
CAN DO THINGS "AT SCALE," BUT 

985
00:32:11,229 --> 00:32:12,196
THEY CANNOT KEEP USERS SAFE 

986
00:32:12,196 --> 00:32:13,264
ONLINE AND INSTEAD HAVE MADE 

987
00:32:13,264 --> 00:32:14,299
RANSOMWARE AND DEEP FAKES 

988
00:32:14,299 --> 00:32:15,199
AVAILABLE TO EVEN THE MOST 

989
00:32:15,199 --> 00:32:16,601
BUDGET CONSCIOUS SCAMMERS. NO, 

990
00:32:16,601 --> 00:32:18,436
THANKS. THESE COMPANIES ARE 

991
00:32:18,436 --> 00:32:19,604
HIDING BEHIND NDAs AND WANT TO 

992
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:22,040
STRIP US OF OUR RESOURCES, AND 

993
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,508
MAKE US FOOT THE BILL. WE NEED 

994
00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:25,276
TO KEEP THESE HYPER- SCALED A.I.

995
00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:27,378
DATA CENTERS OUT, WE DON'T NEED

996
00:32:27,378 --> 00:32:34,152
THEM. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 

997
00:32:34,152 --> 00:32:34,786
LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND SHOWS WHAT 

998
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:36,721
IT LOOKED LIKE TO PROTECT OUR 

999
00:32:36,721 --> 00:32:37,722
CITIZENS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

1000
00:32:37,722 --> 00:32:38,289
TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 

1001
00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:39,023
>> THANK YOU, PATRICK. 

1002
00:32:39,023 --> 00:32:42,093
>> NEXT IS ARIANNA FOLLOWED BY 

1003
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:43,828
KYLA AND JACKSON. 

1004
00:32:43,828 --> 00:32:50,335
>> PAUL, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP. I

1005
00:32:50,335 --> 00:32:51,269
CAN'T HEAR YOU. INTO YOUR 

1006
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:51,569
MICROPHONE. 

1007
00:32:51,569 --> 00:32:55,206
>> HI. MY NAME IS ARI. CAN YOU 

1008
00:32:55,206 --> 00:32:55,473
HEAR ME? 

1009
00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:55,940
>> ARIANNA? 

1010
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:57,108
>> YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 

1011
00:32:57,108 --> 00:32:57,642
>> HI. 

1012
00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:59,677
>> HI. GO AHEAD. 

1013
00:32:59,677 --> 00:33:09,921
>> [ LAUGHTER ] OKAY. I AM A 

1014
00:33:09,921 --> 00:33:10,588
20-YEAR-OLD UNIVERSITY STUDENT, 

1015
00:33:10,588 --> 00:33:11,356
SPEAKING TODAY TO ENCOURAGE THE 

1016
00:33:11,356 --> 00:33:12,423
MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS IN 

1017
00:33:12,423 --> 00:33:13,591
SEATTLE. I AM AGAINST A.I. IN 

1018
00:33:13,591 --> 00:33:14,792
GENERAL, INCLUDING THE 

1019
00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:23,534
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE FLOCK 

1020
00:33:23,534 --> 00:33:24,435
AND A.I. COMPANIES WHICH WILL 

1021
00:33:24,435 --> 00:33:25,870
ALLOW FOR A.I. TO BE USED BY 

1022
00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:26,904
MASS SURVEILLANCE FOR THE 

1023
00:33:26,904 --> 00:33:27,839
PUBLIC, FOR UNCONSTRAINED 

1024
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,941
MONITORING. ON A LOCAL LEVEL, I 

1025
00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:31,409
HAVE VARIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE 

1026
00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:34,645
MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY AND 

1027
00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:35,847
WATER, THAT IS REQUIRED FOR A 

1028
00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:36,914
DATA CENTER, SHOULD THEY BE 

1029
00:33:36,914 --> 00:33:44,689
BUILT IN SEATTLE. DATA CENTERS 

1030
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:45,656
CAN TAKE ENERGY FROM RESIDENCE 

1031
00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:46,891
WHICH CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE 

1032
00:33:46,891 --> 00:33:47,759
BETWEEN HAVING A HOME AND LIVING

1033
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,360
ON THE STREET FOR LOWER INCOME 

1034
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,728
RESIDENTS. [ INAUDIBLE - LOW 

1035
00:33:50,728 --> 00:33:51,963
VOLUME ] INCREASES THE RISK OF 

1036
00:33:51,963 --> 00:33:53,398
POWER SHORTAGES, AND STROKES FOR

1037
00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:54,399
RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT

1038
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:58,269
ARE NEAR THE DATA CENTER. I HAVE

1039
00:33:58,269 --> 00:33:59,270
GROWN UP WITNESSING THE EFFECTS 

1040
00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:01,939
OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND I HAVE 

1041
00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:03,908
READ ABOUT THE IMPACT OF DATA 

1042
00:34:03,908 --> 00:34:05,576
CENTERS AND A.I. ON MY 

1043
00:34:05,576 --> 00:34:12,683
NEIGHBORS, SO PLEASE HELP US 

1044
00:34:12,683 --> 00:34:13,684
PROTECT OUR PEOPLE AND OUR 

1045
00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:14,986
PLANET BY VOTING YES ON A 

1046
00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:16,120
MORATORIUM IN DATA CENTERS IN 

1047
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,587
SEATTLE. THANK YOU. 

1048
00:34:16,587 --> 00:34:17,488
>> THANK YOU, HARYANA. 

1049
00:34:17,488 --> 00:34:19,357
>> OUR NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER IS 

1050
00:34:19,357 --> 00:34:21,859
KYLA, FOLLOWED BY JACKSON AND 

1051
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:22,593
NEEVE. 

1052
00:34:22,593 --> 00:34:29,300
>> DID YOU SAY, TWYLA? CAN 

1053
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:30,368
EVERYONE HERE PAUL? OR, IS IT 

1054
00:34:30,368 --> 00:34:31,202
JUST ME? 

1055
00:34:31,202 --> 00:34:32,103
>> I CAN HEAR HIM JUST FINE. 

1056
00:34:32,103 --> 00:34:33,871
SORRY. BUT, I AM ALSO ON A 

1057
00:34:33,871 --> 00:34:36,174
COMPUTER. 

1058
00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:37,041
>> SO, WE HAVE -- 

1059
00:34:37,041 --> 00:34:38,209
>> HI, EVERYONE. 

1060
00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:40,445
>> HI, TWYLA. 

1061
00:34:40,445 --> 00:34:49,620
>> HI, TWYLA YES, THANK YOU FOR 

1062
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:50,655
LETTING US SHARE OUR THOUGHTS. I

1063
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:52,023
LIVE IN DISTRICT 1, I AM A 

1064
00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:53,057
HOMEOWNER, LOADER, AND PARENT. I

1065
00:34:53,057 --> 00:34:54,292
REALLY THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL 

1066
00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:55,827
TIME FOR US TO PRIORITIZE 

1067
00:34:55,827 --> 00:35:01,399
PEOPLE, DEMOCRATIC 

1068
00:35:01,399 --> 00:35:02,133
ACCESSIBILITY, AND PUBLIC 

1069
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:02,834
INFRASTRUCTURE. MY CONCERN LIES 

1070
00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:04,068
DEEPLY IN THE OVERLOADING OF OUR

1071
00:35:04,068 --> 00:35:05,369
GRID, AND HAVING LARGE-SCALE, 

1072
00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:12,443
HYPER- SCALED COMPANIES, MOVING 

1073
00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:13,511
LARGE AMOUNTS OF GIGABYTES, AS 

1074
00:35:13,511 --> 00:35:14,946
WE SAID BEFORE, 229 GIGAWATTS OF

1075
00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:22,386
ENERGY. I AM ALSO VERY ALARMED 

1076
00:35:22,386 --> 00:35:23,488
AT THE UNDERLYING PURPOSE OF 

1077
00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:24,856
A.I., TO LAY PEOPLE OFF. I KNOW 

1078
00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:28,559
MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN 

1079
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:29,560
AFFECTED AND HAD THEIR JOBS 

1080
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,428
ELIMINATED BECAUSE THEY TRAINED 

1081
00:35:30,428 --> 00:35:31,929
A.I. MODELS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK 

1082
00:35:31,929 --> 00:35:37,201
AND WRITE LIKE THEM. SO, BETWEEN

1083
00:35:37,201 --> 00:35:38,135
THESE CLIMATE COMMITMENTS, AND 

1084
00:35:38,135 --> 00:35:38,669
ENERGY REALITIES, THIS 

1085
00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:42,273
UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR 

1086
00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:42,940
DELIBERATE GOVERNANCE. PLEASE 

1087
00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:43,908
VOTE YES ON THE MORATORIUM. 

1088
00:35:43,908 --> 00:35:44,342
THANK YOU. 

1089
00:35:44,342 --> 00:35:48,846
>> THANK YOU, TWYLA. 

1090
00:35:48,846 --> 00:35:50,014
>> OUR NEXT REMOTE PUBLIC 

1091
00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:53,150
SPEAKER IS JACKSON, FOLLOWED BY 

1092
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,887
NEEVIE AND ANGELA. 

1093
00:35:55,887 --> 00:36:00,024
>> JACKSON? JACKSON? 

1094
00:36:00,024 --> 00:36:01,726
>> HOWDY! AM I COMING IN 

1095
00:36:01,726 --> 00:36:03,694
CORRECT? 

1096
00:36:03,694 --> 00:36:04,662
>> YES, YOU ARE. 

1097
00:36:04,662 --> 00:36:12,336
>> PERFECT. LOVELY. I HOPE YOU 

1098
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:13,905
HAVE A NICE DAY. MY NAME IS 

1099
00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:15,172
JACKSON AND I AM A RESIDENT AND 

1100
00:36:15,172 --> 00:36:16,974
FLOATER WITHIN DISTRICT 6. I AM 

1101
00:36:16,974 --> 00:36:23,548
CONCERNED ABOUT THESE DATA 

1102
00:36:23,548 --> 00:36:24,715
CENTERS, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR 

1103
00:36:24,715 --> 00:36:26,017
YOU TO PASS A MORATORIUM FOR 

1104
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:27,018
DATA CENTER CONSTRUCTION IN THIS

1105
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:28,085
CITY, AND TO CREATE A 

1106
00:36:28,085 --> 00:36:28,719
TRANSPARENT AND ACCESSIBLE 

1107
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,687
RULEMAKING PROCESS FOR HOW WE 

1108
00:36:29,687 --> 00:36:30,521
APPROACH THIS ISSUE, LONG-TERM. 

1109
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:36,127
MANY PEOPLE IN OUR FINE CITY ARE

1110
00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:36,761
STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW UNDER THE 

1111
00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:37,395
YOKE OF RISING COSTS ACROSS THE 

1112
00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:37,895
BOARD. AN INCREASE IN 

1113
00:36:37,895 --> 00:36:38,563
ELECTRICITY RATES CAUSED BY DATA

1114
00:36:38,563 --> 00:36:42,133
CENTERS -- [ INAUDIBLE - LOW 

1115
00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:43,401
VOLUME ] GETTING KICKED OUT ON 

1116
00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:44,202
THE STREET. ADDITIONALLY, WHAT 

1117
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,937
IS ALREADY STRAINED BY 

1118
00:36:45,937 --> 00:36:47,838
INCREASING ACU USAGE AND 

1119
00:36:47,838 --> 00:36:50,408
INCREASING ELECTRIFICATION AS 

1120
00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:51,609
MANY OF THE FINE FOLKS HERE 

1121
00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:55,880
TODAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT, HAVING 

1122
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,747
THIS FURTHER REDUCED GRID 

1123
00:36:56,747 --> 00:36:57,782
CAPACITY COULD MEAN THAT ELDERLY

1124
00:36:57,782 --> 00:37:05,790
OR LOW ACCESS RESIDENTS SUFFER 

1125
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:07,058
AND ARE POSSIBLY AT HARM DURING 

1126
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:08,292
A POWER OUTAGE DURING A HEAT 

1127
00:37:08,292 --> 00:37:09,360
WAVE, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN

1128
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,228
INCREASINGLY HOT SUMMERS HERE 

1129
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,228
ACROSS THE REGION. AND, YOU 

1130
00:37:11,228 --> 00:37:12,230
KNOW, OUR HOMES AREN'T REALLY 

1131
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:13,831
BEAT OUT FOR THIS INCREASINGLY 

1132
00:37:13,831 --> 00:37:16,334
WARM ENVIRONMENT WE ARE FINDING 

1133
00:37:16,334 --> 00:37:17,868
OURSELVES IN. WHO COULD FORGET 

1134
00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:23,808
THE HEAT ZONE THAT HAPPENED FIVE

1135
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:24,842
YEARS AGO AND ALL THE FOLKS WHO 

1136
00:37:24,842 --> 00:37:26,377
WERE HARMED BY IT? IT IS IN MY 

1137
00:37:26,377 --> 00:37:30,648
ESTIMATION THAT IN OUR CITY, WE 

1138
00:37:30,648 --> 00:37:32,083
PRIDE OURSELVES AS STEWARDS AND 

1139
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:32,717
BEING ONE WITH OUR AMAZING 

1140
00:37:32,717 --> 00:37:33,551
NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. WHY SHOULD 

1141
00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:34,552
WE SEEK TO PUNISH THAT 

1142
00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:38,022
REPUTATION FOR SOMETHING THAT --

1143
00:37:38,022 --> 00:37:39,223
AS ANOTHER SPEAKER MENTIONED -- 

1144
00:37:39,223 --> 00:37:39,924
WOULD CREATE MINIMAL ECONOMIC 

1145
00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:41,325
BENEFITS, AND A WHOLE LOT OF 

1146
00:37:41,325 --> 00:37:42,159
NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL 

1147
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,196
EXTERNALITIES? I IMPLORE YOU TO 

1148
00:37:45,196 --> 00:37:46,197
PLEASE PASS THIS MORATORIUM AND 

1149
00:37:46,197 --> 00:37:47,598
MAKE THE RULEMAKING PROCESS FOR 

1150
00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:53,437
THIS AS TRANSPARENT AND AS 

1151
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:54,205
ACCEPTABLE AS POSSIBLE. THANK 

1152
00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:55,840
YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU

1153
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,807
HAD A LOVELY DAY. 

1154
00:37:56,807 --> 00:37:57,575
>> THANK YOU, JACKSON. 

1155
00:37:57,575 --> 00:38:01,846
>> OUR NEXT REMOTE SPEAKER IS 

1156
00:38:01,846 --> 00:38:05,716
NEEVIE FOLLOWED BY ANGELA AND 

1157
00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:05,950
DAVID. 

1158
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:07,485
>> I AM ACTUALLY HERE, CAN I -- 

1159
00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:08,786
>> SHOOT, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T 

1160
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:09,820
CATCH YOUR NAME. 

1161
00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:15,693
>> NEEVIE. 

1162
00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:16,961
>> I AM IN THE PHONE QUEUE 

1163
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,195
BECAUSE MY BUS WAS RUNNING LATE,

1164
00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:19,397
IF MY NOTE CARD PRETTY MUCH 

1165
00:38:19,397 --> 00:38:20,598
SAYS, "WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 

1166
00:38:20,598 --> 00:38:22,199
THIS? SOMEONE, PLEASE HELP." MY 

1167
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:26,904
NAME IS NEEVIE, I AM THE FOUNDER

1168
00:38:26,904 --> 00:38:27,938
AND CEO OF AN ORGANIZATION 

1169
00:38:27,938 --> 00:38:28,939
CALLED SOAPBOX PROJECT WHERE WE 

1170
00:38:28,939 --> 00:38:29,573
CREATE ENJOYABLE COMMUNITY 

1171
00:38:29,573 --> 00:38:30,608
SPACES FOR CLIMATE ACTION EVERY 

1172
00:38:30,608 --> 00:38:32,343
WEEK IN BELLTOWN, AND I DON'T 

1173
00:38:32,343 --> 00:38:35,846
THINK IT SHOULD BE A SECRET THAT

1174
00:38:35,846 --> 00:38:36,881
WE ARE ALL VERY, VERY SCARED OF 

1175
00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,149
WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH A.I. AND 

1176
00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:39,750
THE CLIMATE CRISIS. I MOVED TO 

1177
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:44,822
SEATTLE FROM SAN FRANCISCO, 

1178
00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:46,190
WHERE I WAS WORKING IN TECH. I 

1179
00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:47,391
WAS IMPACTED BY A 2018 WILDFIRE 

1180
00:38:47,391 --> 00:38:54,532
THAT WAS THE WORST IN THE STATE,

1181
00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:56,233
WHILE WORKING IN TECH, CAME UP 

1182
00:38:56,233 --> 00:38:57,468
TO SEATTLE BECAUSE I SAW A 

1183
00:38:57,468 --> 00:38:58,369
FUTURE WHERE THE TECH INDUSTRY 

1184
00:38:58,369 --> 00:38:59,570
WAS BOOMING, BUT IT STILL SEEMS 

1185
00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:01,439
TO BE A LOT MORE HUMAN THAN THAT

1186
00:39:01,439 --> 00:39:02,540
OF SILICON VALLEY, AND I FEEL 

1187
00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:03,774
LIKE US EVEN INDULGING AN A.I. 

1188
00:39:03,774 --> 00:39:05,042
DATA CENTER LANDSCAPE HERE IS 

1189
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:09,013
ERODING THE HUMANNESS AND THE 

1190
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:10,047
CONNECTION WITH NATURE, AND ALL 

1191
00:39:10,047 --> 00:39:11,415
OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS I LOVE 

1192
00:39:11,415 --> 00:39:15,152
IN SEATTLE. THANK YOU. [ 

1193
00:39:15,152 --> 00:39:19,090
LAUGHTER ] I AM ALSO A RENTER, 

1194
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:20,758
SO COST IS A BIG ISSUE FOR ME, 

1195
00:39:20,758 --> 00:39:22,093
BUT THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO 

1196
00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:23,527
SAY THAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN

1197
00:39:23,527 --> 00:39:24,995
SAID AS MUCH, IS THAT THE MENTAL

1198
00:39:24,995 --> 00:39:26,030
AND PHYSICAL HEALTH IMPACT ON 

1199
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:27,598
YOUNGER PEOPLE FROM A.I. IS 

1200
00:39:27,598 --> 00:39:32,169
SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK WE

1201
00:39:32,169 --> 00:39:33,371
CAN EVEN BEGIN TO QUANTIFY. AT 

1202
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:34,371
SOAPBOX, WE SEE, LIKE, 30-ISH 

1203
00:39:34,371 --> 00:39:44,448
PEOPLE EVERY WEEK, MANY OF WHOM 

1204
00:39:44,448 --> 00:39:46,350
WHO WORK IN TECH, AND WE FEEL 

1205
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:47,518
POWERLESS, WE FEEL LIKE NO ONE 

1206
00:39:47,518 --> 00:39:48,686
IS LISTENING, AND NOW, WHEN WE 

1207
00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:49,754
ARE SEEING NDAs SIGNED WITH 

1208
00:39:49,754 --> 00:39:50,654
THESE NAMELESS TECH COMPANIES 

1209
00:39:50,654 --> 00:39:51,555
THAT DON'T LIVE HERE, THAT 

1210
00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:52,923
DON'T WORK HERE, THAT ARE NOT 

1211
00:39:52,923 --> 00:40:03,467
CREATING JOBS HERE, IT DRIVES US

1212
00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:06,704
FURTHER AND FURTHER INTO THIS 

1213
00:40:06,704 --> 00:40:07,738
SITUATION WHERE WE LIVE IN A 

1214
00:40:07,738 --> 00:40:09,006
CITY WHERE WE FEEL LIKE NOBODY 

1215
00:40:09,006 --> 00:40:10,407
CARES ABOUT US. SO, NOT ONLY ARE

1216
00:40:10,407 --> 00:40:11,442
DATA CENTERS JEOPARDIZING ALL OF

1217
00:40:11,442 --> 00:40:12,209
OUR NATURAL RESOURCES THAT 

1218
00:40:12,209 --> 00:40:13,210
SEATTLEITES CARE SO MUCH ABOUT, 

1219
00:40:13,210 --> 00:40:14,278
THEY ARE ALSO POSING AN 

1220
00:40:14,278 --> 00:40:15,112
EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE 

1221
00:40:15,112 --> 00:40:16,147
CLIMATE CRISIS, TO OUR MENTAL 

1222
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:17,348
HEALTH, AND I THINK WE SHOULD 

1223
00:40:17,348 --> 00:40:18,582
USE THIS MORATORIUM TO NOT ONLY 

1224
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:20,050
SAY NO, BUT ALSO LEAD ON THINGS 

1225
00:40:20,050 --> 00:40:21,285
LIKE COMMUNITY MICRO GRIDS AND A

1226
00:40:21,285 --> 00:40:22,553
BETTER FUTURE FOR US, ALL. THANK

1227
00:40:22,553 --> 00:40:22,820
YOU. 

1228
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:23,788
>> OUR NEXT REMOTE PUBLIC 

1229
00:40:23,788 --> 00:40:24,789
SPEAKER IS ANGELA, FOLLOWED BY 

1230
00:40:24,789 --> 00:40:25,122
DAVID. 

1231
00:40:25,122 --> 00:40:27,024
>> HI, I AM ANGELA. I AM ALSO 

1232
00:40:27,024 --> 00:40:28,859
HERE. THANK YOU. 

1233
00:40:28,859 --> 00:40:29,760
>> YOU ARE WELCOME. 

1234
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,662
>> WE MOVED TO SEATTLE IN 2022 

1235
00:40:31,662 --> 00:40:33,564
TO ATTEND A DESIGN PROGRAM, 

1236
00:40:33,564 --> 00:40:34,565
MASTERS PROGRAM AT UNIVERSITY OF

1237
00:40:34,565 --> 00:40:39,103
WASHINGTON, AND SO, I AM A USER 

1238
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:40,104
EXPERIENCED DESIGNER BY SKILL, 

1239
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:44,074
BUT GRADUATING IN 2023 MEANT I 

1240
00:40:44,074 --> 00:40:48,479
WAS FACING A JOB MARKET THAT WAS

1241
00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:50,281
POOR AND HAS ONLY BEEN GETTING 

1242
00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:57,354
WORSE BECAUSE OF A.I. I LIKE, 

1243
00:40:57,354 --> 00:40:59,490
CANNOT EVEN OPEN MY -- OH! I AM 

1244
00:40:59,490 --> 00:41:04,094
ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE 

1245
00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:05,729
MORATORIUM ON BUILDING A.I. DATA

1246
00:41:05,729 --> 00:41:10,334
CENTERS. BUT, BASICALLY, A.I. 

1247
00:41:10,334 --> 00:41:11,101
TAKING PEOPLE'S JOBS, AND 

1248
00:41:11,101 --> 00:41:16,173
DESIGNERS LIKE ME BEING EXPECTED

1249
00:41:16,173 --> 00:41:20,978
TO ENHANCE, LIKE, HOW MUCH 

1250
00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:22,847
OUTPUT WE CAN GET FROM OUR 

1251
00:41:22,847 --> 00:41:29,787
LABOR, LIKE, IT'S JUST VERY 

1252
00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:30,754
STRESSFUL TO WORK IN TECH 

1253
00:41:30,754 --> 00:41:32,156
BECAUSE WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO SO

1254
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:33,357
MUCH USING A.I., AND THERE IS 

1255
00:41:33,357 --> 00:41:34,425
JUST SO MUCH DESPERATION AND 

1256
00:41:34,425 --> 00:41:35,192
INSTABILITY AMONG TECH WORKERS. 

1257
00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:37,061
AND SO, I AM SHARING THAT THIS 

1258
00:41:37,061 --> 00:41:45,803
IS MY EXPERIENCE WITH A.I., 

1259
00:41:45,803 --> 00:41:47,638
AFTER ALL THE AMAZING COMMENTARY

1260
00:41:47,638 --> 00:41:48,272
THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE, THAT

1261
00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:49,006
YOU ALREADY KNOW, ABOUT, HOW, 

1262
00:41:49,006 --> 00:41:54,044
YOU KNOW, THESE DATA CENTERS ARE

1263
00:41:54,044 --> 00:41:55,813
NOT SUSTAINABLE, WE ARE FACING A

1264
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:56,881
CLIMATE CRISIS, THIS IS -- YOU 

1265
00:41:56,881 --> 00:41:58,148
KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE NEAR 

1266
00:41:58,148 --> 00:41:59,383
THESE A.I. DATA CENTERS, IT DOES

1267
00:41:59,383 --> 00:42:00,417
NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF 

1268
00:42:00,417 --> 00:42:04,655
SEATTLE, AND ALSO, RIGHT NOW, 

1269
00:42:04,655 --> 00:42:06,390
A.I. IS, QUITE FRANKLY, BEING 

1270
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:07,491
USED BY, I THINK, BILLIONAIRES, 

1271
00:42:07,491 --> 00:42:08,092
TO MANIPULATE SOCIETY, CREATE 

1272
00:42:08,092 --> 00:42:08,592
MORE DESPERATION, MORE 

1273
00:42:08,592 --> 00:42:14,064
INSTABILITY. THIS IS NOT, LIKE, 

1274
00:42:14,064 --> 00:42:15,432
CONDUCIVE TO DEMOCRACY. THIS IS 

1275
00:42:15,432 --> 00:42:16,600
JUST NOT CONDUCIVE TO HUMANITY, 

1276
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,268
QUITE HONESTLY. THANK YOU. 

1277
00:42:17,268 --> 00:42:25,809
>> THANK YOU. 

1278
00:42:25,809 --> 00:42:27,011
>> OUR FINAL REMOTE PUBLIC 

1279
00:42:27,011 --> 00:42:28,112
SPEAKER IS NOT PRESENT, SO WE 

1280
00:42:28,112 --> 00:42:29,780
WILL COME BACK TO YOU, DAVID. 

1281
00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:32,149
SO, MOVING BACK INTO IN PERSON 

1282
00:42:32,149 --> 00:42:33,384
PUBLIC COMMENTERS. WE HAVE BEEN 

1283
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:38,589
JONES -- BEN JONES FOLLOWED BY 

1284
00:42:38,589 --> 00:42:39,123
MAGNOLIA AND LAUREN. 

1285
00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:43,627
>> WE HAVE BEN, AND WHO ARE THE 

1286
00:42:43,627 --> 00:42:44,194
OTHER TWO QUESTS 

1287
00:42:44,194 --> 00:42:46,130
>> I KNOW LEAH AND LAUREN. 

1288
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,898
>> SO, IF YOU ARE HERE, CAN YOU 

1289
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:51,602
WANT UP BEHIND BEN? I THINK WE 

1290
00:42:51,602 --> 00:42:52,870
ARE ALL GETTING AN AMBER ALERT, 

1291
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:54,271
THAT IS WHAT IS ON OUR PHONES 

1292
00:42:54,271 --> 00:42:55,506
RIGHT NOW, FOR A NATIVE AMERICAN

1293
00:42:55,506 --> 00:42:58,809
CHILD. GO AHEAD, BEN. 

1294
00:42:58,809 --> 00:43:00,177
>> YEAH, IT FEELS A LITTLE 

1295
00:43:00,177 --> 00:43:01,278
STRANGE, JUST TO KEEP GOING PAST

1296
00:43:01,278 --> 00:43:03,514
THE AMBER ALERT. BUT, MY NAME IS

1297
00:43:03,514 --> 00:43:07,384
BEN JONES, I AND THE COMMUNITY 

1298
00:43:07,384 --> 00:43:08,185
DIRECTOR FOR 350 SEATTLE. I AM 

1299
00:43:08,185 --> 00:43:14,725
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF THE 

1300
00:43:14,725 --> 00:43:15,859
RESOLUTION FOR A DATA CENTER 

1301
00:43:15,859 --> 00:43:16,627
MORATORIUM. I CHECKED BEFORE 

1302
00:43:16,627 --> 00:43:18,028
COMING UP HERE, AT THIS POINT, 

1303
00:43:18,028 --> 00:43:19,063
THIS COUNCIL AND MAYOR HAS 

1304
00:43:19,063 --> 00:43:20,097
RECEIVED 93,270 MESSAGES IN 

1305
00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:21,398
SUPPORT OF THIS MORATORIUM. 

1306
00:43:21,398 --> 00:43:30,174
>> [ AUDIENCE REACTS ] 

1307
00:43:30,174 --> 00:43:31,675
>> AND PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE 

1308
00:43:31,675 --> 00:43:32,810
HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK 

1309
00:43:32,810 --> 00:43:34,278
WITH SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR CITY 

1310
00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:35,346
ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT A.I., 

1311
00:43:35,346 --> 00:43:36,447
HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT DATA 

1312
00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:37,815
CENTERS, AND OVER AND OVER 

1313
00:43:37,815 --> 00:43:48,325
AGAIN, PEOPLE SAY, THEY JUST 

1314
00:43:50,427 --> 00:43:51,528
FEEL LIKE GIFTS TO THE RICH, 

1315
00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:52,496
THEY DON'T SEE THEMSELVES IN 

1316
00:43:52,496 --> 00:43:53,497
A.I., THEY DON'T SEE THEMSELVES

1317
00:43:53,497 --> 00:43:54,698
IN DATA CENTERS, THEY DON'T SEE

1318
00:43:54,698 --> 00:43:56,266
HOW IT IS GOOD FOR THE CITY OR 

1319
00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:57,735
HOW IT IS GOOD FOR OUR FUTURE. 

1320
00:43:57,735 --> 00:43:59,003
ANOTHER CONCERN WE HEAR OVER AND

1321
00:43:59,003 --> 00:44:00,170
OVER AGAIN IS ABOUT THE PROCESS 

1322
00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:00,738
OF THESE NONDISCLOSURE 

1323
00:44:00,738 --> 00:44:01,572
AGREEMENTS WHERE, LIKE, THE 

1324
00:44:01,572 --> 00:44:02,873
SCALE OF THESE FACILITIES IS NOT

1325
00:44:02,873 --> 00:44:03,841
SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LEARNING 

1326
00:44:03,841 --> 00:44:04,908
ABOUT IN "THE SEATTLE TIMES" 

1327
00:44:04,908 --> 00:44:05,709
WITH BREAKING INVESTIGATIONS. 

1328
00:44:05,709 --> 00:44:07,011
THESE ARE THE THINGS WE SHOULD 

1329
00:44:07,011 --> 00:44:08,445
BE HEARING ABOUT IN COMMITTEES, 

1330
00:44:08,445 --> 00:44:11,682
OR YEARS IN ADVANCE. AND, YOU 

1331
00:44:11,682 --> 00:44:12,983
KNOW, LAST YEAR, HALF OF ALL 

1332
00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:13,851
PROPOSED DATA CENTERS, OR DATA 

1333
00:44:13,851 --> 00:44:14,685
CENTER PROPOSALS WERE WITHDRAWN.

1334
00:44:14,685 --> 00:44:16,320
YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE IN

1335
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:22,059
THE MIDST OF A NATIONAL BACKLASH

1336
00:44:22,059 --> 00:44:23,861
TO FACILITIES LIKE THESE, AND I 

1337
00:44:23,861 --> 00:44:24,928
THINK IT IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY 

1338
00:44:24,928 --> 00:44:26,230
FOR SEATTLE, FOR THIS COUNCIL, 

1339
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:27,131
TO SHOW LEADERSHIP. IT IS A 

1340
00:44:27,131 --> 00:44:28,399
CHANCE TO SHOW THAT EVEN HERE, 

1341
00:44:28,399 --> 00:44:29,900
IN A PLACE THAT IS VERY MUCH 

1342
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:31,035
ASSOCIATED WITH BIG TECH, THAT 

1343
00:44:31,035 --> 00:44:32,102
THE PEOPLE AND COUNCIL REJECT 

1344
00:44:32,102 --> 00:44:33,137
THIS SORT OF INEVITABLE FUTURE 

1345
00:44:33,137 --> 00:44:43,681
BEING SHOVED AT US, REJECT THE 

1346
00:44:49,219 --> 00:44:49,953
RECKLESS ROLLOUT OF THESE DATA 

1347
00:44:49,953 --> 00:44:51,588
CENTERS AND FACILITIES. SO, I AM

1348
00:44:51,588 --> 00:44:52,189
URGING THIS COUNCIL TO SHOW 

1349
00:44:52,189 --> 00:44:53,690
LEADERSHIP. I ALSO THINK THIS IS

1350
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:54,558
AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHAT A 

1351
00:44:54,558 --> 00:44:55,526
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND

1352
00:44:55,526 --> 00:44:56,794
UTILITY COULD BE, AS WELL AS, 

1353
00:44:56,794 --> 00:44:58,028
THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 

1354
00:44:58,028 --> 00:44:59,430
SORT OF MOVE THE REST OF THE 

1355
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:00,264
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS 

1356
00:45:00,264 --> 00:45:01,465
POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE 

1357
00:45:01,465 --> 00:45:02,499
TO HAVE, AND HOW THESE 

1358
00:45:02,499 --> 00:45:03,333
FACILITIES CAN BENEFIT 

1359
00:45:03,333 --> 00:45:04,134
COMMUNITIES. SO, I'M LOOKING 

1360
00:45:04,134 --> 00:45:05,969
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU 

1361
00:45:05,969 --> 00:45:06,537
THROUGHOUT THIS MORATORIUM 

1362
00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:07,337
PROCESS AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR

1363
00:45:07,337 --> 00:45:07,838
LEADERSHIP ON THIS. 

1364
00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:08,439
>> THANK YOU. 

1365
00:45:08,439 --> 00:45:12,142
>> HI. I AM ANALIA. I AM A U.N. 

1366
00:45:12,142 --> 00:45:13,777
STUDENT AT 4W211 AND I AM A PHD 

1367
00:45:13,777 --> 00:45:14,812
RESEARCHER, STUDENT AT 

1368
00:45:14,812 --> 00:45:15,446
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON, 

1369
00:45:15,446 --> 00:45:22,553
RESEARCH AND DATA CENTERS. I 

1370
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,021
ALSO USED TO WORK IN THE TECH 

1371
00:45:24,021 --> 00:45:24,955
INDUSTRY, AS A SOFTWARE 

1372
00:45:24,955 --> 00:45:26,090
ENGINEER. I URGE YOU TO ENDORSE 

1373
00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:27,591
THE MORATORIUM. SEATTLE NEEDS TO

1374
00:45:27,591 --> 00:45:28,926
FOLLOW OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE 

1375
00:45:28,926 --> 00:45:33,731
ENDORSED MORATORIUMS. TO THE 

1376
00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:34,898
BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE 

1377
00:45:34,898 --> 00:45:35,666
57 COUNTIES, TOWNS, AND 

1378
00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:37,101
TOWNSHIPS ACROSS THE U.S. THAT 

1379
00:45:37,101 --> 00:45:47,644
HAVE ACTIVE MORATORIUMS ACROSS 

1380
00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:49,213
BIPARTISAN LINES. I AM GOING TO 

1381
00:45:49,213 --> 00:45:50,147
READ SOME OF THOSE. GEORGIA, 

1382
00:45:50,147 --> 00:45:50,814
NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, IOWA, 

1383
00:45:50,814 --> 00:45:51,448
WISCONSIN, ARIZONA, MISSOURI, 

1384
00:45:51,448 --> 00:45:52,583
TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, LOUISIANA, 

1385
00:45:52,583 --> 00:45:56,753
INDIANA, KANSAS, I THINK I SAID 

1386
00:45:56,753 --> 00:45:57,354
THAT TWICE? MICHIGAN, 

1387
00:45:57,354 --> 00:45:58,122
CALIFORNIA, NORTH DAKOTA, NORTH 

1388
00:45:58,122 --> 00:45:58,989
CAROLINA, MAINE, OHIO, ALABAMA. 

1389
00:45:58,989 --> 00:46:02,659
I THINK WE WANT SEATTLE TO JOIN 

1390
00:46:02,659 --> 00:46:03,961
THIS LIST, AND LEAD BY EXAMPLE, 

1391
00:46:03,961 --> 00:46:11,301
TO ESTABLISH LEADING STANDARDS. 

1392
00:46:11,301 --> 00:46:12,569
ALSO, BECAUSE I READ AND ANALYZE

1393
00:46:12,569 --> 00:46:13,670
DATA CENTER INDUSTRY REPORTS, 

1394
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:14,271
MANY OF THESE COMPANIES ARE 

1395
00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:15,405
LOOKING TOWARDS BUILDING DATA 

1396
00:46:15,405 --> 00:46:16,340
CENTERS THROUGH PREFABRICATED 

1397
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:20,210
MODELS, TO REDUCE AS MUCH 

1398
00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:21,378
UNIONIZED LABOR ON SITE AS 

1399
00:46:21,378 --> 00:46:26,450
POSSIBLE. SO, FOR ASSEMBLY 

1400
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:28,819
PROCESSES, EVEN AS THEY SPEAK OF

1401
00:46:28,819 --> 00:46:32,589
JOB BENEFITS. YEAH, AND DATA 

1402
00:46:32,589 --> 00:46:34,091
CENTERS PRODUCE LOTS OF NOISE 

1403
00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:37,995
POLLUTION FROM THIRD DIESEL 

1404
00:46:37,995 --> 00:46:38,929
GENERATORS, GAS TURBINES, THE 

1405
00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:43,634
COOLING HVAC SYSTEMS. NOISE 

1406
00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:44,568
IMPACTS DATA CENTER WORKERS, 

1407
00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:48,038
COMMUNITIES, AND WILDLIFE. SO, I

1408
00:46:48,038 --> 00:46:49,406
URGE YOU TO SAY YES TO THIS 

1409
00:46:49,406 --> 00:46:50,073
MORATORIUM. THANK YOU. 

1410
00:46:50,073 --> 00:46:51,441
>> THANK YOU. 

1411
00:46:51,441 --> 00:46:55,846
>> NEXT, IS LAUREN REDFIELD, 

1412
00:46:55,846 --> 00:46:57,214
FOLLOWED BY PAUL GOSLIN AND 

1413
00:46:57,214 --> 00:47:02,653
LAUREN TOSLI. 

1414
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:03,954
>> THIS IS LAUREN? 

1415
00:47:03,954 --> 00:47:09,760
>> LAUREN REDFIELD. 

1416
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,195
>> DID YOU CALL THREE NAMES, SO 

1417
00:47:11,195 --> 00:47:12,796
ALL THREE OF THEM TO COME UP AT 

1418
00:47:12,796 --> 00:47:13,397
THE SAME TIME? 

1419
00:47:13,397 --> 00:47:15,199
>> LAUREN REDFIELD, PAUL GOSLIN,

1420
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:15,666
AND LAUREN TOASTY. 

1421
00:47:15,666 --> 00:47:22,039
>> TWO LAWRENCE? THERE IS TWO 

1422
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:22,306
LAUREN? 

1423
00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:22,806
>> OKAY, SO -- 

1424
00:47:22,806 --> 00:47:31,882
>> I AM LAUREN TOSI. IS THE 

1425
00:47:31,882 --> 00:47:32,416
OTHER LAUREN FIRST? 

1426
00:47:32,416 --> 00:47:33,617
>> LAUREN REDFIELD IS FIRST, AND

1427
00:47:33,617 --> 00:47:34,518
THEN PAUL WAYNE GOSLIN. 

1428
00:47:34,518 --> 00:47:41,058
>> IS LAUREN REDFIELD HERE? I DO

1429
00:47:41,058 --> 00:47:42,693
NOT SEE HER, SO WE WILL GO TO 

1430
00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:43,193
THE NEXT PERSON. 

1431
00:47:43,193 --> 00:47:44,828
>> OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO PAUL

1432
00:47:44,828 --> 00:47:46,296
WAYNE GOSLIN AND THEN MOVE ON TO

1433
00:47:46,296 --> 00:47:47,097
LAUREN REDFIELD AND FOLLOWING 

1434
00:47:47,097 --> 00:47:49,933
PAUL WILL BE LAUREN TOSI, AND 

1435
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:50,367
THEN RENAISSANCE. 

1436
00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:51,702
>> HELLO. I AM HERE IN SUPPORT 

1437
00:47:51,702 --> 00:47:52,869
OF THE MORATORIUM OF THE DATA 

1438
00:47:52,869 --> 00:47:57,074
CENTER. YOU HAVE HEARD HERE, AND

1439
00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:57,808
BEFORE, PROBABLY, MANY POINTS 

1440
00:47:57,808 --> 00:48:00,811
THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT, 

1441
00:48:00,811 --> 00:48:01,612
REGARDING THE GREED, POLLUTION, 

1442
00:48:01,612 --> 00:48:07,551
AND NOISE, EVERYTHING. I JUST 

1443
00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:08,619
WANT TO ADD A WARNING TO THAT, 

1444
00:48:08,619 --> 00:48:10,420
IN THAT IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO 

1445
00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:14,157
BELIEVE THAT WE CAN AVOID THOSE 

1446
00:48:14,157 --> 00:48:14,925
ASPECTS BY ADDING SOME 

1447
00:48:14,925 --> 00:48:16,360
REGULATIONS, OR SOME LIMITS, 

1448
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,928
WHEN WE AUTHORIZE DATA CENTERS. 

1449
00:48:17,928 --> 00:48:25,869
TRUTH IS, IN THE CCP, THE DATA 

1450
00:48:25,869 --> 00:48:26,603
CENTER WAS USING UNAUTHORIZED 

1451
00:48:26,603 --> 00:48:28,605
GAS GENERATORS. AND IN 

1452
00:48:28,605 --> 00:48:33,777
FAYETTEVILLE, GEORGIA, THEY 

1453
00:48:33,777 --> 00:48:34,444
FOUND THAT THE GENERATORS STOLE,

1454
00:48:34,444 --> 00:48:35,579
LITERALLY, 30,000 GALLONS OF 

1455
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:40,951
WATER. MY POINT IS, THE TECH 

1456
00:48:40,951 --> 00:48:41,952
BILLIONAIRES HAVE A RECURRING 

1457
00:48:41,952 --> 00:48:42,786
STRATEGY, AND THEY DON'T HIDE 

1458
00:48:42,786 --> 00:48:47,491
IT. THE STRATEGY IS, BREAK THE 

1459
00:48:47,491 --> 00:48:48,625
LAW, BREAK THINGS, AND MAYBE ASK

1460
00:48:48,625 --> 00:48:49,960
FOR FORGIVENESS WHEN YOU GET 

1461
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,865
CAUGHT. WHICH IS, TOO LATE, 

1462
00:48:54,865 --> 00:48:56,133
BASICALLY. SO, MY POINT IS VERY 

1463
00:48:56,133 --> 00:48:59,069
SIMPLE. WE SHOULD NOT GIVE THEM 

1464
00:48:59,069 --> 00:49:00,704
THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SO, 

1465
00:49:00,704 --> 00:49:02,205
SAY YES TO THE MORATORIUM, AND 

1466
00:49:02,205 --> 00:49:05,008
NO TO THESE DATA CENTERS. 

1467
00:49:05,008 --> 00:49:09,479
>> THANK YOU. NOW, WE HAVE 

1468
00:49:09,479 --> 00:49:12,215
LAUREN. LAUREN? 

1469
00:49:12,215 --> 00:49:15,652
>> FOR YOUR RECEPTIVENESS, BY 

1470
00:49:15,652 --> 00:49:16,019
THE WAY. 

1471
00:49:16,019 --> 00:49:16,687
>> OKAY. 

1472
00:49:16,687 --> 00:49:22,993
>> NEXT SPEAKER IS LAUREN TOSI, 

1473
00:49:22,993 --> 00:49:24,061
FOLLOWED BY RENAISSANCE, 

1474
00:49:24,061 --> 00:49:24,661
FOLLOWED BY BROOKE. 

1475
00:49:24,661 --> 00:49:25,963
>> NOW, WE HAVE LAUREN, LAURA 

1476
00:49:25,963 --> 00:49:26,863
NUMBER TWO. 

1477
00:49:26,863 --> 00:49:33,437
>> HELLO. I AM GOING TO READ 

1478
00:49:33,437 --> 00:49:34,504
WHAT I HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE IT IS

1479
00:49:34,504 --> 00:49:35,339
ALWAYS A LITTLE NERVE-RACKING. 

1480
00:49:35,339 --> 00:49:39,643
>> OKAY, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 

1481
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:41,511
>> BUT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR 

1482
00:49:41,511 --> 00:49:42,512
HAVING THIS HEARING, IT IS SO 

1483
00:49:42,512 --> 00:49:43,513
VERY IMPORTANT. MY NAME IS 

1484
00:49:43,513 --> 00:49:44,848
LAUREN, I HAVE LIVED IN SEATTLE 

1485
00:49:44,848 --> 00:49:46,216
SINCE 1980 AND I AM CLEARLY AND 

1486
00:49:46,216 --> 00:49:47,284
STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF A 

1487
00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:48,919
MORATORIUM ON THE BUILDING OF 

1488
00:49:48,919 --> 00:49:53,023
DATA CENTERS, AND IN SEATTLE, OR

1489
00:49:53,023 --> 00:49:54,224
ANY OTHER TOWN, CITY IN OUR 

1490
00:49:54,224 --> 00:50:01,098
STATE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A RUSH 

1491
00:50:01,098 --> 00:50:02,733
TO GET THESE DATA CENTERS BUILT 

1492
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:04,001
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND I FEEL 

1493
00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:05,068
THAT THAT IS EXTREMELY ALARMING.

1494
00:50:05,068 --> 00:50:06,269
THERE IS NO SUFFICIENT INFO ON 

1495
00:50:06,269 --> 00:50:08,672
LAND AND WATER USAGE, EFFECTS ON

1496
00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:09,606
UTILITY RATES, EFFECTS ON OUR 

1497
00:50:09,606 --> 00:50:10,674
PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY,

1498
00:50:10,674 --> 00:50:12,442
THE ELECTRIC GRID CAPACITY, AND 

1499
00:50:12,442 --> 00:50:13,777
THE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGES THAT 

1500
00:50:13,777 --> 00:50:18,682
CAN COME. WE ALL KNOW THAT FAST 

1501
00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:20,183
TRACKING POLICIES ARE MYOPIC AND

1502
00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:26,823
CAN LEAD TO DANGEROUS RESULTS. 

1503
00:50:26,823 --> 00:50:28,325
SO, I ASK ALL OF YOU TO TAKE 

1504
00:50:28,325 --> 00:50:29,126
INTO ACCOUNT AND SERIOUSLY 

1505
00:50:29,126 --> 00:50:30,193
REMEMBER OUR COMMENTS, AND TAKE 

1506
00:50:30,193 --> 00:50:33,964
INTO ACCOUNT WHY THE PUBLIC IS 

1507
00:50:33,964 --> 00:50:35,132
SO VERY WARY OF THESE DATA 

1508
00:50:35,132 --> 00:50:39,202
CENTERS. PLEASE, I ASK YOU, NO 

1509
00:50:39,202 --> 00:50:40,237
BUSINESS AS USUAL. THANK YOU. 

1510
00:50:40,237 --> 00:50:42,506
>> THANK YOU, LAUREN. 

1511
00:50:42,506 --> 00:50:52,949
>> NEXT, IS RENAISSANCE, 

1512
00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:54,017
FOLLOWED BY BROOKE AND 

1513
00:50:54,017 --> 00:50:54,317
MAXIMILIAN. 

1514
00:50:54,317 --> 00:50:54,718
>> RENAISSANCE? 

1515
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:55,118
>> RENAISSANCE! 

1516
00:50:55,118 --> 00:50:56,253
>> OKAY, WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 

1517
00:50:56,253 --> 00:50:57,154
>> RENAISSANCE. I AM AN 

1518
00:50:57,154 --> 00:50:59,489
ORGANIZER WITH 350 SEATTLE. AND 

1519
00:50:59,489 --> 00:51:00,924
I AM IN SUPPORT OF A MORATORIUM 

1520
00:51:00,924 --> 00:51:02,325
ON THE DATA CENTERS. I WANT TO 

1521
00:51:02,325 --> 00:51:06,596
START BY SAYING THAT, I WAS 

1522
00:51:06,596 --> 00:51:07,864
QUITE IMPRESSED BY THE STATE BIT

1523
00:51:07,864 --> 00:51:15,005
OF INTENT FOR THIS MORATORIUM. 

1524
00:51:15,005 --> 00:51:17,007
AND I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN TO 

1525
00:51:17,007 --> 00:51:17,607
CITY COUNCIL FOR MANY, MANY 

1526
00:51:17,607 --> 00:51:18,742
YEARS. OFTEN TIMES, I HAVE BEEN 

1527
00:51:18,742 --> 00:51:20,277
WALKED OUT OF THESE CHAMBERS. 

1528
00:51:20,277 --> 00:51:24,347
BUT, IN NONE OF THOSE TIMES WHEN

1529
00:51:24,347 --> 00:51:25,782
I HAVE BEEN HERE, HAVE I EVER 

1530
00:51:25,782 --> 00:51:26,783
SEEN AN IMPORTANT ISSUE RUNNING 

1531
00:51:26,783 --> 00:51:27,918
THROUGH TWO COMMITTEES, 

1532
00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:32,489
SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND I THINK THIS

1533
00:51:32,489 --> 00:51:33,523
MARKS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT 

1534
00:51:33,523 --> 00:51:34,658
ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR 

1535
00:51:34,658 --> 00:51:36,026
CITY RIGHT NOW. AND WE -- MANY 

1536
00:51:36,026 --> 00:51:37,994
OF US -- BELIEVE THAT IT IS 

1537
00:51:37,994 --> 00:51:44,534
VITAL FOR US TO PUT IN A PAUSE 

1538
00:51:44,534 --> 00:51:46,103
BEFORE WE JUMP HEADFIRST INTO A 

1539
00:51:46,103 --> 00:51:54,611
PROJECT THAT CAN HAVE DAMAGING 

1540
00:51:54,611 --> 00:51:55,312
RAMIFICATIONS FOR GENERATIONS TO

1541
00:51:55,312 --> 00:51:56,546
COME, SO I REALLY WANT TO 

1542
00:51:56,546 --> 00:51:57,647
IMPLORE THIS COMMITTEE AND THE 

1543
00:51:57,647 --> 00:51:58,582
OTHER COMMITTEE FOR REALLY 

1544
00:51:58,582 --> 00:51:59,783
PUTTING THAT IN PLAY. AND WHAT I

1545
00:51:59,783 --> 00:52:01,685
HOPE BY THE END OF THIS PROCESS 

1546
00:52:01,685 --> 00:52:03,086
IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A UNANIMOUS

1547
00:52:03,086 --> 00:52:04,521
VOTE WHEN BOTH OF THESE GET TO 

1548
00:52:04,521 --> 00:52:08,391
CITY COUNCIL. MY FEAR, IS THAT 

1549
00:52:08,391 --> 00:52:12,562
IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN THE 

1550
00:52:12,562 --> 00:52:13,897
COST OF THESE DATA CENTERS WILL 

1551
00:52:13,897 --> 00:52:17,134
BE BORNE BY FOLKS WHO DON'T 

1552
00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:18,802
HAVE -- ARE NOT GIVEN CONSENT 

1553
00:52:18,802 --> 00:52:23,573
FOR THIS, AND IS NORMALLY BORN 

1554
00:52:23,573 --> 00:52:24,975
FOR FOLKS WHO ARE POOR, WHO ARE 

1555
00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:25,942
MARGINALIZED, WHO ARE 

1556
00:52:25,942 --> 00:52:28,178
VULNERABLE, WHO DON'T OFTEN 

1557
00:52:28,178 --> 00:52:29,246
HAVE A LOT THE OPPORTUNITIES TO 

1558
00:52:29,246 --> 00:52:32,516
SHOW UP IN THESE SPACES. DON'T 

1559
00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:34,217
FEEL THE POWER TO SHOW UP IN 

1560
00:52:34,217 --> 00:52:35,552
THESE SPACES. AND IT WILL BE 

1561
00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:40,190
TAXED, IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THE 

1562
00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:41,491
PRICE OF ENERGY GOES UP, AND HOW

1563
00:52:41,491 --> 00:52:51,668
MUCH WATER WE HAVE ACCESS TO. 

1564
00:52:51,668 --> 00:52:52,702
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, 

1565
00:52:52,702 --> 00:52:53,837
AS THIS CHANGE PROGRESSES, AS TO

1566
00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:55,005
WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD HAVE 

1567
00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:56,573
ENOUGH WATER TO FUND ALL OF THIS

1568
00:52:56,573 --> 00:52:57,307
STUFF. SO, PLEASE, CONTINUE 

1569
00:52:57,307 --> 00:52:58,308
VOTING YES FOR THIS MORATORIUM 

1570
00:52:58,308 --> 00:53:00,310
AND LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO 

1571
00:53:00,310 --> 00:53:02,012
THIS RIGHT. 

1572
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:02,646
>> THANK YOU. 

1573
00:53:02,646 --> 00:53:04,281
>> NEXT, IS BROOKE, FOLLOWED BY 

1574
00:53:04,281 --> 00:53:08,518
MAXIMILIAN. 

1575
00:53:08,518 --> 00:53:09,953
>> HI, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY 

1576
00:53:09,953 --> 00:53:15,859
COMMENT. MY NAME IS BROOKE. I AM

1577
00:53:15,859 --> 00:53:17,193
NOT AN EXPERT ON ANY OF THIS, 

1578
00:53:17,193 --> 00:53:18,795
BUT A CONCERNED CITIZEN, MOTHER,

1579
00:53:18,795 --> 00:53:24,434
VOTER, HOMEOWNER. I ECHO ALL OF 

1580
00:53:24,434 --> 00:53:25,835
MY PEERS' CONCERNS AND FEARS 

1581
00:53:25,835 --> 00:53:33,577
ABOUT THE RATE AT WHICH A.I. IS 

1582
00:53:33,577 --> 00:53:34,678
TAKING HOLD IN THIS COUNTRY. IT 

1583
00:53:34,678 --> 00:53:40,016
FEELS SIMILAR TO THE RACE FOR 

1584
00:53:40,016 --> 00:53:41,351
THE ATOMIC BOMB IN THE 1940s, 

1585
00:53:41,351 --> 00:53:42,719
ESPECIALLY WITH THE SECRECY, AND

1586
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:50,093
NDAs, AND WHO IS INVOLVED, AND 

1587
00:53:50,093 --> 00:53:51,361
THE TRUE OUTCOME WE ARE SEEKING 

1588
00:53:51,361 --> 00:53:52,796
IS, IT FEELS LIKE IT IS PROFIT 

1589
00:53:52,796 --> 00:53:53,797
OVER PEOPLE, OVER, AND OVER 

1590
00:53:53,797 --> 00:53:58,635
AGAIN. THE HARMS ARE 

1591
00:53:58,635 --> 00:53:59,703
INSURMOUNTABLE. THEY HAVE BEEN 

1592
00:53:59,703 --> 00:54:00,837
STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN 

1593
00:54:00,837 --> 00:54:02,572
THIS SESSION, THE BENEFITS SEEM 

1594
00:54:02,572 --> 00:54:08,411
TO ONLY BENEFIT THE FEW, AND I 

1595
00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:09,746
HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE TO 

1596
00:54:09,746 --> 00:54:11,281
VOTE YES ON THIS MORATORIUM. 

1597
00:54:11,281 --> 00:54:21,491
THANK YOU. 

1598
00:54:22,425 --> 00:54:23,760
>> NEXT, IS MAXIMILIAN, THEN WE 

1599
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,828
GO BACK TO LAUREN REDFIELD AND 

1600
00:54:24,828 --> 00:54:25,228
REMOTE SPEAKERS. 

1601
00:54:25,228 --> 00:54:26,396
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. I AM

1602
00:54:26,396 --> 00:54:32,769
MAX FROM DISTRICT 7. I THINK 

1603
00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:33,803
ENOUGH OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE 

1604
00:54:33,803 --> 00:54:35,005
TALKED ABOUT A.I. RISKS ON THE 

1605
00:54:35,005 --> 00:54:35,805
ENVIRONMENT, ELECTRICITY GRID. I

1606
00:54:35,805 --> 00:54:37,273
KIND OF WANT TO FOCUS ON ITS 

1607
00:54:37,273 --> 00:54:38,275
EFFECTS ON HUMANITY. ARE YOU 

1608
00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:44,848
GUYS AWARE OF WHO PETER THIEL 

1609
00:54:44,848 --> 00:54:46,316
IS? RIGHT, I THINK WE ALL DO, 

1610
00:54:46,316 --> 00:54:47,584
HEAD OF PALANTIR, THEY HAVE ALL 

1611
00:54:47,584 --> 00:54:48,284
COLLECTED AROUND $1.8 BILLION 

1612
00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:49,119
FROM THE UNITED STATES 

1613
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,720
GOVERNMENT FOR A.I. WEAPONS 

1614
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,892
MANUFACTURING. DEEP ROOTS IN THE

1615
00:54:55,892 --> 00:54:57,327
CIA, BY THE WAY. AND PETER THIEL

1616
00:54:57,327 --> 00:54:58,361
WAS INTERVIEWED AND ASKED THE 

1617
00:54:58,361 --> 00:54:59,596
QUESTION, "SHOULD HUMANITY 

1618
00:54:59,596 --> 00:55:07,904
ENDURE, " AND IF YOU WATCHED 

1619
00:55:07,904 --> 00:55:08,638
THAT INTERVIEW, YOU UNDERSTAND 

1620
00:55:08,638 --> 00:55:09,606
THAT HIS RESPONSE WAS BASICALLY,

1621
00:55:09,606 --> 00:55:10,707
"I DON'T KNOW." IT WAS 

1622
00:55:10,707 --> 00:55:11,408
SOMETHING OTHER THAN, "YES," 

1623
00:55:11,408 --> 00:55:14,844
WHICH ALARMS ME. SO, I WOULD 

1624
00:55:14,844 --> 00:55:16,279
URGE THAT ANY TIME A PIECE OF 

1625
00:55:16,279 --> 00:55:17,080
LEGISLATION COMES ACROSS YOUR 

1626
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,984
DESK, ABOUT A.I., YOU REMEMBER 

1627
00:55:20,984 --> 00:55:22,018
WHAT THE LEADERS ARE THINKING 

1628
00:55:22,018 --> 00:55:23,720
ABOUT THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY. 

1629
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:28,892
REMEMBER THAT PETER THIEL SAID, 

1630
00:55:28,892 --> 00:55:29,793
"I DON'T REALLY KNOW," IF 

1631
00:55:29,793 --> 00:55:35,265
HUMANITY SHOULD ENDURE. EVEN THE

1632
00:55:35,265 --> 00:55:36,232
CEO OF ANTHROPIC ADMITS, THEY 

1633
00:55:36,232 --> 00:55:37,367
DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE 

1634
00:55:37,367 --> 00:55:43,473
BUILDING ANYMORE. AND I THINK 

1635
00:55:43,473 --> 00:55:45,141
THAT WE MIGHT BE AT ONE OF THE 

1636
00:55:45,141 --> 00:55:45,975
MOST CATASTROPHIC POINTS IN 

1637
00:55:45,975 --> 00:55:47,277
HUMANITY. I REALLY DO BELIEVE 

1638
00:55:47,277 --> 00:55:48,178
THAT. AND I THINK THAT EVERY 

1639
00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:50,780
STEP THAT EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL 

1640
00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:52,248
TAKES, IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. SO, 

1641
00:55:52,248 --> 00:55:57,420
I WOULD SAY, YES, TO THIS 

1642
00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:58,455
MORATORIUM ON A.I. DATA CENTERS,

1643
00:55:58,455 --> 00:55:59,956
AND URGE YOU TO HANDLE THIS WITH

1644
00:55:59,956 --> 00:56:01,124
THE SEVERITY THAT IT DESERVES. 

1645
00:56:01,124 --> 00:56:01,491
THANK YOU. 

1646
00:56:01,491 --> 00:56:09,599
>> THANK YOU. 

1647
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,769
>> IS LAUREN REDFIELD HERE? 

1648
00:56:12,769 --> 00:56:23,313
>> LAUREN, AND THEN WHO ELSE IS 

1649
00:56:26,483 --> 00:56:26,649
ONLINE? 

1650
00:56:26,649 --> 00:56:27,584
>> AND THEN, REMOTE SPEAKER, 

1651
00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:28,385
TESSA, YOU WILL BE NEXT. 

1652
00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:28,785
>> LAUREN? 

1653
00:56:28,785 --> 00:56:29,719
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, MY 

1654
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,221
NAME IS KEN, I AM A CANDIDATE 

1655
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:32,389
MEMBER WITH THE PARTY OF LABOR, 

1656
00:56:32,389 --> 00:56:33,857
I URGE YOU TO PASS THIS 

1657
00:56:33,857 --> 00:56:35,058
MORATORIUM AND I URGE YOU TO 

1658
00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:36,092
CONSIDER MAKING IT A PERMANENT 

1659
00:56:36,092 --> 00:56:37,560
MORATORIUM. I WANT TO ASK YOU A 

1660
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,561
QUESTION, WHO WITH THE DATA 

1661
00:56:38,561 --> 00:56:44,167
CENTERS BENEFIT? IS IT US? IS IT

1662
00:56:44,167 --> 00:56:45,368
THE UNHOUSED PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE

1663
00:56:45,368 --> 00:56:46,536
SWEPT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THESE 

1664
00:56:46,536 --> 00:56:47,771
CENTERS? IS IT THE LOW INCOME 

1665
00:56:47,771 --> 00:56:48,438
AND MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, 

1666
00:56:48,438 --> 00:56:49,806
WHO WILL BE FORCED TO MOVE NEXT 

1667
00:56:49,806 --> 00:56:54,944
TO THESE CENTERS? IS IT THE 

1668
00:56:54,944 --> 00:56:56,146
PEOPLE IN THE SEATTLE AREA WHO 

1669
00:56:56,146 --> 00:56:57,213
WOULD HAVE TO SACRIFICE WATER 

1670
00:56:57,213 --> 00:56:58,214
AND ELECTRICITY FOR THIS? NO, 

1671
00:56:58,214 --> 00:56:59,449
IT'S NOT US, IT DOESN'T BENEFIT

1672
00:56:59,449 --> 00:57:00,683
US. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. WHY

1673
00:57:00,683 --> 00:57:11,227
DO YOU THINK A.I. IS FREE? MOST 

1674
00:57:14,164 --> 00:57:15,532
SERVICES PRESENTED TO US BY BIG 

1675
00:57:15,532 --> 00:57:16,566
TECH COMPANIES ARE PAID, SO WHY 

1676
00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:17,834
WOULD THIS BE FREE? IT IS 

1677
00:57:17,834 --> 00:57:18,935
BECAUSE IT IS DATA COLLECTION. 

1678
00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:19,903
IT IS BECAUSE IT IS 

1679
00:57:19,903 --> 00:57:20,904
SURVEILLANCE. IT IS BECAUSE IT 

1680
00:57:20,904 --> 00:57:21,871
IS DANGEROUS. NOW, THERE ARE 

1681
00:57:21,871 --> 00:57:22,939
SEVERAL REPORTS FROM AROUND THE 

1682
00:57:22,939 --> 00:57:23,907
COUNTRY ABOUT HOW THESE DATA 

1683
00:57:23,907 --> 00:57:25,008
CENTERS ARE CAUSING THESE PEOPLE

1684
00:57:25,008 --> 00:57:26,776
TO GET THESE WEIRD, RARE KINDS 

1685
00:57:26,776 --> 00:57:37,320
OF CANCER. IT IS AFFECTING THEM 

1686
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,922
IN THEIR HOMES, IT IS AFFECTING 

1687
00:57:38,922 --> 00:57:40,023
THEM WITH A WEIRD HUMMING NOISE 

1688
00:57:40,023 --> 00:57:41,124
TO WHERE THEY CAN'T SLEEP. IT 

1689
00:57:41,124 --> 00:57:42,125
IS AFFECTING THEM, TO WHERE 

1690
00:57:42,125 --> 00:57:42,926
THEIR DRINKING WATER IS 

1691
00:57:42,926 --> 00:57:43,993
CONTAMINATED. THERE IS SET AND 

1692
00:57:43,993 --> 00:57:44,961
PARTICLES IN THEIR WATER. THAT 

1693
00:57:44,961 --> 00:57:46,196
WOULD BE COMING TO US IN 

1694
00:57:46,196 --> 00:57:46,996
SEATTLE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 

1695
00:57:46,996 --> 00:57:48,064
UNACCEPTABLE. AND, BY THE WAY, 

1696
00:57:48,064 --> 00:57:49,465
THIS IS NOT YOUR LAND TO SELL. 

1697
00:57:49,465 --> 00:57:50,900
WE ARE AN UNSEATED LAND. THIS IS

1698
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:52,335
NOT YOURS. THIS IS NOT OURS. IT 

1699
00:57:52,335 --> 00:57:54,204
IS IRRESPONSIBLE, TO ALLOW DATA 

1700
00:57:54,204 --> 00:57:55,872
CENTERS TO BE HERE IN SEATTLE. 

1701
00:57:55,872 --> 00:57:56,539
IT IS DANGEROUS. KETTLE, YOU ARE

1702
00:57:56,539 --> 00:57:58,675
NOT GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS, IN

1703
00:57:58,675 --> 00:58:00,043
QUEEN M, BUT WE ARE. THAT IS 

1704
00:58:00,043 --> 00:58:00,677
ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. WE NEED

1705
00:58:00,677 --> 00:58:01,544
TO PASS THIS MORATORIUM, YOU 

1706
00:58:01,544 --> 00:58:02,712
NEED TO MAKE IT PERMANENT. YOU 

1707
00:58:02,712 --> 00:58:04,147
NEED TO THINK ABOUT US, RATHER 

1708
00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:05,014
THAN WHOEVER IS LINING YOUR 

1709
00:58:05,014 --> 00:58:06,850
POCKETS. THANK YOU. 

1710
00:58:06,850 --> 00:58:08,451
>> OUR FINAL PUBLIC SPEAKER IS 

1711
00:58:08,451 --> 00:58:11,387
TESSA. PLEASE -- 

1712
00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:17,794
>> TESSA IS HERE. COME ON UP. 

1713
00:58:17,794 --> 00:58:19,429
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS TESSA. I AM

1714
00:58:19,429 --> 00:58:26,202
HERE TO, YES, SAY YES TO THE 

1715
00:58:26,202 --> 00:58:27,203
MORATORIUM. I AM HERE BECAUSE OF

1716
00:58:27,203 --> 00:58:28,805
SOAPBOX, AS WELL. I AM A PART OF

1717
00:58:28,805 --> 00:58:30,039
THAT COMMUNITY. AND ONE OF THE 

1718
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:31,407
QUESTIONS -- THEY DID A THEME ON

1719
00:58:31,407 --> 00:58:33,476
A.I. FOR ONE OF THE MONTHS, AND 

1720
00:58:33,476 --> 00:58:35,144
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WROTE AND

1721
00:58:35,144 --> 00:58:37,780
TALKED ABOUT WAS, LIKE, WHAT 

1722
00:58:37,780 --> 00:58:39,182
HAPPENS, WHEN A.I. IS 

1723
00:58:39,182 --> 00:58:42,685
SUCCESSFUL, WHEN YOU ARE MORE 

1724
00:58:42,685 --> 00:58:43,453
PRODUCTIVE, YOUR EMAILS ARE 

1725
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:49,158
BEING WRITTEN FOR YOU, YOUR 

1726
00:58:49,158 --> 00:58:50,159
IMAGES ARE BEING CREATED. WHAT 

1727
00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:53,029
DO YOU DO WITH THAT EXTRA TIME? 

1728
00:58:53,029 --> 00:58:59,168
AND I FEEL LIKE, WHEN YOU ARE 

1729
00:58:59,168 --> 00:58:59,869
TALKING ABOUT CREATING DATA 

1730
00:58:59,869 --> 00:59:00,570
CENTERS, OR ENCOURAGING THEM, 

1731
00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:05,541
AND ALLOWING THEM TO BE BUILT, 

1732
00:59:05,541 --> 00:59:06,743
YOU BETTER THINK ABOUT, WHAT ARE

1733
00:59:06,743 --> 00:59:07,911
YOU ALLOWING TO HAPPEN, FROM 

1734
00:59:07,911 --> 00:59:09,512
THOSE DATA CENTERS? WHAT IS 

1735
00:59:09,512 --> 00:59:17,620
THEIR CONSEQUENCE? A.I. IS IN 

1736
00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:18,755
OUR LIVES EVERYWHERE, NOW. IT IS

1737
00:59:18,755 --> 00:59:19,789
UNAVOIDABLE AND IT IS NOT GOING 

1738
00:59:19,789 --> 00:59:21,357
AWAY. BUT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 

1739
00:59:21,357 --> 00:59:22,992
YOU, I GO ONLINE NOW AND I 

1740
00:59:22,992 --> 00:59:24,294
CAN'T TRUST ANYTHING. I DON'T 

1741
00:59:24,294 --> 00:59:25,695
KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. WHEN 

1742
00:59:25,695 --> 00:59:26,930
I HAD A PHONE CALL THE OTHER 

1743
00:59:26,930 --> 00:59:35,038
DAY, I HAD A TEXT MESSAGE WITH 

1744
00:59:35,038 --> 00:59:36,105
MY PHONE COMPANY, AND THE PERSON

1745
00:59:36,105 --> 00:59:37,373
WAS AMAZING. I WAS LIKE, "ARE 

1746
00:59:37,373 --> 00:59:38,641
YOU REAL?" AND THEY SAID, "YES,"

1747
00:59:38,641 --> 00:59:42,245
AND I COULDN'T TRUST THAT. SO, 

1748
00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:43,713
WHAT DATA CENTERS ARE BACKING, 

1749
00:59:43,713 --> 00:59:44,681
IS AN A.I. TO ACTUALLY MAKE US 

1750
00:59:44,681 --> 00:59:45,815
QUESTION WHAT REALITY IS. THIS 

1751
00:59:45,815 --> 00:59:50,219
FEELS VERY HEADY, BUT I THINK WE

1752
00:59:50,219 --> 00:59:50,887
CAN'T AVOID UNDERSTANDING THAT 

1753
00:59:50,887 --> 00:59:51,754
THIS IS QUESTIONING HOW WE 

1754
00:59:51,754 --> 00:59:53,089
INTERACT, HOW WE EXIST IN THE 

1755
00:59:53,089 --> 01:00:02,665
WORLD WITH EACH OTHER. A.I. IS 

1756
01:00:02,665 --> 01:00:04,400
NOT GOING AWAY, BUT THAT IS WHY 

1757
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,535
EVERY SINGLE POINT, WE NEED TO 

1758
01:00:05,535 --> 01:00:06,536
INJECT HUMANITY INTO IT. WE HAVE

1759
01:00:06,536 --> 01:00:08,304
TO PUT HUMANS IN THERE, MAKING 

1760
01:00:08,304 --> 01:00:08,905
DECISIONS, HUMANS TALKING TO 

1761
01:00:08,905 --> 01:00:09,806
EACH OTHER IN ROOMS, AND HUMAN 

1762
01:00:09,806 --> 01:00:10,840
BEINGS ENGAGING IN EVERY ASPECT 

1763
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,342
OF IT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY 

1764
01:00:12,342 --> 01:00:13,743
WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE 

1765
01:00:13,743 --> 01:00:15,378
ALONGSIDE IT. PLEASE, PLEASE, 

1766
01:00:15,378 --> 01:00:16,412
PUT THIS MORATORIUM FORWARD, AND

1767
01:00:16,412 --> 01:00:17,580
GIVE MANY MORE HUMAN BEINGS, THE

1768
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:19,282
PEOPLE HERE, OF SEATTLE, A 

1769
01:00:19,282 --> 01:00:20,450
CHANCE TO ENGAGE IN WHAT WILL 

1770
01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:22,251
HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE FOR US. 

1771
01:00:22,251 --> 01:00:28,725
>> TESSA? SO, WE ARE GOOD ON IN 

1772
01:00:28,725 --> 01:00:37,133
PERSON AND ONLINE. SO, BEFORE WE

1773
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:38,134
GO ON TO OUR AGENDA -- WE DON'T

1774
01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:39,202
NORMALLY DO THIS, BUT I HAVE 

1775
01:00:39,202 --> 01:00:40,470
BEEN DOING THIS TODAY, SO I 

1776
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:47,510
MIGHT AS WELL FINISH IT UP -- I 

1777
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:48,511
WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 

1778
01:00:48,511 --> 01:00:49,946
THIS TIME. BEFORE WE GO TO ITEMS

1779
01:00:49,946 --> 01:00:51,214
OF BUSINESS, I DO WANT TO MAKE 

1780
01:00:51,214 --> 01:00:52,415
SOME CLARIFICATIONS AND A COUPLE

1781
01:00:52,415 --> 01:00:53,249
COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, THE 

1782
01:00:53,249 --> 01:00:54,484
MORATORIUM WILL BE ON JUNE 3rd 

1783
01:00:54,484 --> 01:00:55,752
AT 9:30 IN COUNCILMEMBER LIN'S 

1784
01:00:55,752 --> 01:00:57,153
COMMITTEE, AND I WILL BE, AS 

1785
01:00:57,153 --> 01:00:58,354
WELL, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN WORKING

1786
01:00:58,354 --> 01:00:58,955
CLOSELY WITH COUNCILMAN 

1787
01:00:58,955 --> 01:01:06,629
BERLIN'S OFFICE. THEN, ON JUNE 

1788
01:01:06,629 --> 01:01:07,864
3rd, 2:00, WE WILL BE BACK IN 

1789
01:01:07,864 --> 01:01:08,631
HERE FOR THE RESOLUTION. SO, WE 

1790
01:01:08,631 --> 01:01:09,899
HAVE THE MORATORIUM AND THE 

1791
01:01:09,899 --> 01:01:10,900
RESOLUTION AND WE ARE WORKING 

1792
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:12,001
TOGETHER WITH THE LAND USE 

1793
01:01:12,001 --> 01:01:12,735
COMMITTEE AND SEATTLE CITY LIGHT

1794
01:01:12,735 --> 01:01:13,936
COMMITTEE. I MIGHT HAVE TO GO 

1795
01:01:13,936 --> 01:01:15,571
BACK TO THE PEARL JAM GUY. I 

1796
01:01:15,571 --> 01:01:16,806
KIND OF LIKE THAT THIS IS 

1797
01:01:16,806 --> 01:01:18,241
PROBABLY -- I DON'T WANT TO USE

1798
01:01:18,241 --> 01:01:20,009
THE WORD "GEEK," BUT THIS IS 

1799
01:01:20,009 --> 01:01:27,884
PROBABLY THE TECHIEST CROWD I 

1800
01:01:27,884 --> 01:01:29,218
HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY YEARS AT 

1801
01:01:29,218 --> 01:01:30,753
SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL AND I JUST 

1802
01:01:30,753 --> 01:01:32,188
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP

1803
01:01:32,188 --> 01:01:32,855
AND PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE WE 

1804
01:01:32,855 --> 01:01:33,523
CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN PAYING 

1805
01:01:33,523 --> 01:01:35,158
ATTENTION SINCE BEFORE THE NEW 

1806
01:01:35,158 --> 01:01:38,461
YEAR. THE QUESTION, ONE OF THE 

1807
01:01:38,461 --> 01:01:39,929
POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE -- AND 

1808
01:01:39,929 --> 01:01:41,064
AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY 

1809
01:01:41,064 --> 01:01:42,765
THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHO I AM --

1810
01:01:42,765 --> 01:01:43,499
GIGAWATTS ARE MORE THAN 

1811
01:01:43,499 --> 01:01:54,010
MEGAWATTS, RIGHT? OKAY, GOOD. 

1812
01:01:57,947 --> 01:01:58,848
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I 

1813
01:01:58,848 --> 01:02:00,149
WANTED TO WRITE THAT DOWN AGAIN,

1814
01:02:00,149 --> 01:02:01,250
BECAUSE WHEN I WAS HEARING IT, 

1815
01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:02,518
THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE, BETWEEN 

1816
01:02:02,518 --> 01:02:03,219
GIGAWATTS, AND MEGAWATTS, AND 

1817
01:02:03,219 --> 01:02:04,420
THAT IS GOING TO BECOME AN 

1818
01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:05,855
ISSUE. SO, I'M GOING TO ASK AND

1819
01:02:05,855 --> 01:02:07,123
ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU, ON JUNE 

1820
01:02:07,123 --> 01:02:08,558
3rd, TO COME AT 9:30, THEN GO 

1821
01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:19,102
HAVE LUNCH, THEN COME BACK HERE 

1822
01:02:20,136 --> 01:02:22,271
AT 2:00, SO PEOPLE WILL VOTE ON 

1823
01:02:22,271 --> 01:02:23,139
THE MORATORIUM THAT MORNING, 

1824
01:02:23,139 --> 01:02:24,073
THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE 

1825
01:02:24,073 --> 01:02:25,208
RESOLUTION ON JUNE 3rd, AS WELL.

1826
01:02:25,208 --> 01:02:26,309
TODAY IS THE BRIEFING. WE HAVE 

1827
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:27,343
CENTRAL STAFF COMING, AND YOU 

1828
01:02:27,343 --> 01:02:28,778
ALL HAVE SEEN ONLINE, WE HAD THE

1829
01:02:28,778 --> 01:02:29,579
RESOLUTION POSTED, THE SUMMARY 

1830
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:30,813
AND FISCAL NOTE POSTED, AND THE 

1831
01:02:30,813 --> 01:02:31,848
POWERPOINT POSTED. SO, ALL OF 

1832
01:02:31,848 --> 01:02:33,049
THOSE THINGS ARE ONLINE FOR YOU 

1833
01:02:33,049 --> 01:02:34,283
TO LOOK AT. MAKE COMMENTS, SEND 

1834
01:02:34,283 --> 01:02:35,084
YOUR COMMENTS TO COUNCILMEMBER 

1835
01:02:35,084 --> 01:02:36,385
LIN, OF COURSE, AND OF COURSE, 

1836
01:02:36,385 --> 01:02:37,553
IN HIS COMMITTEE, AND OF COURSE,

1837
01:02:37,553 --> 01:02:41,791
TO MYSELF, DEBRA JUAREZ IN OUR 

1838
01:02:41,791 --> 01:02:43,192
COMMITTEE. AND I JUST WANT YOU 

1839
01:02:43,192 --> 01:02:44,127
TO KNOW THAT SEATTLE CITY 

1840
01:02:44,127 --> 01:02:44,894
COUNCIL AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE 

1841
01:02:44,894 --> 01:02:45,762
HAVE HAD IN THE HALLWAY, 

1842
01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:46,696
OFF-LINE, THOSE OF US ATTENDING 

1843
01:02:46,696 --> 01:02:47,930
WEBINARS AND, YOU KNOW, GOING TO

1844
01:02:47,930 --> 01:02:48,865
GEEKWIRE EVENTS, AND PAYING 

1845
01:02:48,865 --> 01:02:50,166
ATTENTION TO ANTHROPIC, AND 

1846
01:02:50,166 --> 01:02:59,008
PALANTIR, AND LOOKING AT OTHER 

1847
01:02:59,008 --> 01:03:00,109
CITIES -- AND SOMEBODY OUT HERE 

1848
01:03:00,109 --> 01:03:01,277
SAID SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT 

1849
01:03:01,277 --> 01:03:02,311
WAS REALLY IMPORTANT -- THEY 

1850
01:03:02,311 --> 01:03:03,112
READ OFF DIFFERENT CITIES AND 

1851
01:03:03,112 --> 01:03:04,480
STATES THAT ARE DOING -- I JUST 

1852
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,882
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT INDIAN 

1853
01:03:05,882 --> 01:03:06,749
COUNTRY AND TRIBES STARTED DOING

1854
01:03:06,749 --> 01:03:08,050
THIS SIX MONTHS AGO BECAUSE OF 

1855
01:03:08,050 --> 01:03:09,218
WATER RIGHTS, TREATY RIGHTS, 

1856
01:03:09,218 --> 01:03:19,162
PROTECT TREATY RIGHTS, FEDERAL 

1857
01:03:19,162 --> 01:03:19,595
CONSULTATION, STATE 

1858
01:03:19,595 --> 01:03:20,263
CONSULTATION, CITY CONSULTATION.

1859
01:03:20,263 --> 01:03:21,130
SO, INCLUDE THAT ON YOUR LIST, 

1860
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:22,532
AS WELL. AND THEN, I WILL HAVE 

1861
01:03:22,532 --> 01:03:23,566
SOME CLOSING COMMENTS WHEN WE 

1862
01:03:23,566 --> 01:03:25,001
GET TO ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS THE 

1863
01:03:25,001 --> 01:03:25,568
RESOLUTION REGARDING THE 

1864
01:03:25,568 --> 01:03:26,802
RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE DONE, AND 

1865
01:03:26,802 --> 01:03:28,070
IF THERE IS MORE INFORMATION YOU

1866
01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:29,505
WANT US TO SEE OR LOOK AT, 

1867
01:03:29,505 --> 01:03:30,540
PLEASE SEND US THE INFORMATION 

1868
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:32,208
IN THE LINK AND YOU WILL GET TO 

1869
01:03:32,208 --> 01:03:33,643
IT. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK 

1870
01:03:33,643 --> 01:03:35,444
ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HEARTFELT 

1871
01:03:35,444 --> 01:03:36,045
PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE DON'T 

1872
01:03:36,045 --> 01:03:37,480
ALWAYS GET A LOT OF INFORMATIVE 

1873
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,448
PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, IT IS KIND 

1874
01:03:39,448 --> 01:03:40,249
OF NICE TO HAVE PEOPLE BE NICE, 

1875
01:03:40,249 --> 01:03:41,918
AND KIND, AND RESPECTFUL IN THE 

1876
01:03:41,918 --> 01:03:42,585
PEOPLE'S HOUSE, SO WITH THAT, 

1877
01:03:42,585 --> 01:03:43,653
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO 

1878
01:03:43,653 --> 01:03:45,054
TO OUR AGENDA, AND OUR ITEMS OF 

1879
01:03:45,054 --> 01:03:45,888
BUSINESS. FIRST ITEM OF 

1880
01:03:45,888 --> 01:03:47,123
BUSINESS, WHICH, DO WE HAVE TO 

1881
01:03:47,123 --> 01:03:48,124
HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON 

1882
01:03:48,124 --> 01:03:49,992
THIS ONE? OKAY. SO, MR. CLERK, 

1883
01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:55,298
WILL YOU PLEASE READ THAT, ITEM 

1884
01:03:55,298 --> 01:03:56,098
ONE, INTO THE RECORD? 

1885
01:03:56,098 --> 01:03:57,333
>> AGENDA ITEM ONE -- COUNCIL 

1886
01:03:57,333 --> 01:04:06,309
BILL 121199 -- AN ORDINANCE 

1887
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:07,310
RELATING TO THE CITY LIGHT 

1888
01:04:07,310 --> 01:04:08,511
DEPARTMENT, ACCEPTING STATUTORY 

1889
01:04:08,511 --> 01:04:12,114
WARRANTY DEEDS, FUNDING FOR 

1890
01:04:12,114 --> 01:04:12,782
PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, RATIFYING

1891
01:04:12,782 --> 01:04:13,482
THE CITY'S GRANTS OF DEEDS OF 

1892
01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:19,121
RIGHT TO THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

1893
01:04:19,121 --> 01:04:20,489
FOR THESE PROPERTIES FOR 

1894
01:04:20,489 --> 01:04:21,057
RECOVERY, AND CONSERVATION 

1895
01:04:21,057 --> 01:04:22,258
PURPOSES. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC

1896
01:04:22,258 --> 01:04:22,892
HEARING, BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, 

1897
01:04:22,892 --> 01:04:32,001
AND POSSIBLE VOTE. 

1898
01:04:32,001 --> 01:04:33,603
>> OKAY, I AM GOING TO HAVE THE 

1899
01:04:33,603 --> 01:04:34,503
PRESENTERS GO AHEAD AND PRESENT 

1900
01:04:34,503 --> 01:04:35,871
THEMSELVES, AND THEN I WILL GO 

1901
01:04:35,871 --> 01:04:37,173
AHEAD -- ACTUALLY, I WILL DO IT 

1902
01:04:37,173 --> 01:04:38,608
RIGHT NOW AND I WILL LET YOU 

1903
01:04:38,608 --> 01:04:39,642
TALK. SO, AS PRESIDING OFFICER, 

1904
01:04:39,642 --> 01:04:40,843
I AM NOW OPENING THE PUBLIC 

1905
01:04:40,843 --> 01:04:48,484
HEARING ON COUNCIL BILL 121199 

1906
01:04:48,484 --> 01:04:49,685
AND CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY 

1907
01:04:49,685 --> 01:04:50,620
SPEAKERS TO THAT ITEM, ITEM 

1908
01:04:50,620 --> 01:04:51,020
NUMBER ONE? 

1909
01:04:51,020 --> 01:04:52,288
>> THERE IS ONE REMOTE SPEAKER 

1910
01:04:52,288 --> 01:04:52,622
SIGNED UP. 

1911
01:04:52,622 --> 01:04:53,656
>> ALL RIGHT. 

1912
01:04:53,656 --> 01:04:54,724
>> HE IS DAVID, IF YOU ARE 

1913
01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:55,291
LISTENING, SIGNED IN. 

1914
01:04:55,291 --> 01:04:56,692
>> DAVID, ARE YOU HERE? GOING 

1915
01:04:56,692 --> 01:04:58,294
ONCE, GOING TWICE? NO DAVID. ALL

1916
01:04:58,294 --> 01:05:05,268
RIGHT. SO, WE HAVE HOUSE 

1917
01:05:05,268 --> 01:05:06,535
SPEAKERS AND THEN WE DON'T, SO 

1918
01:05:06,535 --> 01:05:07,503
THERE ARE NO REMOTE SPEAKERS, 

1919
01:05:07,503 --> 01:05:08,771
THERE ARE NO REMOTE SPEAKERS IN 

1920
01:05:08,771 --> 01:05:12,375
CHAMBERS, SO AT THIS POINT, WE 

1921
01:05:12,375 --> 01:05:13,843
WILL GO AHEAD AND -- DO I CLOSE 

1922
01:05:13,843 --> 01:05:14,844
PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN, MR. CLERK?

1923
01:05:14,844 --> 01:05:25,388
OKAY. THEN, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC 

1924
01:05:26,055 --> 01:05:27,456
COMMENT ON THAT ITEM, AND WITH 

1925
01:05:27,456 --> 01:05:28,758
THAT -- OH, HERE WE GO. "IF NO 

1926
01:05:28,758 --> 01:05:29,959
SPEAKERS," THANK YOU, PAUL. I 

1927
01:05:29,959 --> 01:05:30,860
WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, 

1928
01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:32,295
NOW ALLOW THE FOLKS AT THE TABLE

1929
01:05:32,295 --> 01:05:33,362
TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. AND I 

1930
01:05:33,362 --> 01:05:42,071
SHOULD ADD THAT WE HAVE A 

1931
01:05:42,071 --> 01:05:43,072
POWERPOINT AND SUMMARY AND 

1932
01:05:43,072 --> 01:05:43,706
FISCAL NOTE REGARDING THE 

1933
01:05:43,706 --> 01:05:44,473
ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT LANDS 

1934
01:05:44,473 --> 01:05:45,374
DEED ACCEPTANCE ORDINANCE, SO 

1935
01:05:45,374 --> 01:05:46,809
WITH THAT, GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR 

1936
01:05:46,809 --> 01:05:47,810
PRESENTATION AND WE WILL GO 

1937
01:05:47,810 --> 01:05:48,477
THROUGH THE POWERPOINT. 

1938
01:05:48,477 --> 01:05:49,445
>> IT AFTERNOON, CHAIR JUAREZ, 

1939
01:05:49,445 --> 01:05:59,789
VICE CHAIR KETTLE, AND 

1940
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:00,856
COUNCILMEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE 

1941
01:06:00,856 --> 01:06:01,724
COMMITTEE. I AM DENNIS McLERRAN 

1942
01:06:01,724 --> 01:06:02,692
AND I SERVE AS THE GENERAL 

1943
01:06:02,692 --> 01:06:03,726
MANAGER AT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT, 

1944
01:06:03,726 --> 01:06:04,994
AND IN THAT ROLE, I OVERSEE 

1945
01:06:04,994 --> 01:06:05,628
COMMUNICATIONS, GOVERNMENT 

1946
01:06:05,628 --> 01:06:06,128
RELATIONS, GOVERNMENTAL 

1947
01:06:06,128 --> 01:06:06,796
MANAGEMENT, REAL ESTATE, NATURAL

1948
01:06:06,796 --> 01:06:07,430
RESOURCES, HYDRO RELICENSING, 

1949
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:08,230
AND THE OFFICE OF INFORMATION 

1950
01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:09,198
OFFICER. I APPRECIATE THE 

1951
01:06:09,198 --> 01:06:10,466
OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU HERE 

1952
01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:11,467
TODAY, TO DISCUSS SEVERAL ITEMS 

1953
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:12,068
FROM OUR ENVIRONMENTAL 

1954
01:06:12,068 --> 01:06:12,902
MANAGEMENT AND REAL ESTATE 

1955
01:06:12,902 --> 01:06:13,903
BUSINESS UNIT, AND THE FIRST 

1956
01:06:13,903 --> 01:06:14,737
ITEM THAT CHAIR JUAREZ 

1957
01:06:14,737 --> 01:06:15,538
INDICATED, WE ARE BRINGING 

1958
01:06:15,538 --> 01:06:19,408
FORWARD AN ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT 

1959
01:06:19,408 --> 01:06:20,242
PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH 

1960
01:06:20,242 --> 01:06:20,776
ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION 

1961
01:06:20,776 --> 01:06:21,844
EFFORTS, WITH THE ENDANGERED 

1962
01:06:21,844 --> 01:06:32,388
SPECIES ACT. THIS IS PART OF THE

1963
01:06:36,826 --> 01:06:37,860
LIGHTS ONGOING WORK TO HELP 

1964
01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:38,694
PROTECT CRITICAL HABITAT IN THE 

1965
01:06:38,694 --> 01:06:39,929
SKAGIT AND PULPIT WATERSHEDS. IT

1966
01:06:39,929 --> 01:06:41,163
IS WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 

1967
01:06:41,163 --> 01:06:42,198
MANY YEARS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 

1968
01:06:42,198 --> 01:06:43,199
OTHERS ACROSS THE REGION TO 

1969
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:44,200
SUPPORT RECOVERY AND CARE FOR 

1970
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,034
THESE NATURAL AREAS. TODAY'S 

1971
01:06:45,034 --> 01:06:46,035
ACTION ALLOWS US TO ACCEPT 

1972
01:06:46,035 --> 01:06:46,635
REQUIRED PROPERTY INTERESTS 

1973
01:06:46,635 --> 01:06:47,269
THROUGH GRANT FUNDED 

1974
01:06:47,269 --> 01:06:48,337
ACQUISITIONS TO CONTINUE TO DO 

1975
01:06:48,337 --> 01:06:49,739
THAT WORK AND WITH THAT, I WILL 

1976
01:06:49,739 --> 01:06:51,774
TURN IT OVER TO DENISE 

1977
01:06:51,774 --> 01:06:52,842
KROWNBELL, STRATEGIC ADVISER AT 

1978
01:06:52,842 --> 01:06:53,776
CITY LIGHT, TO WALK YOU THROUGH 

1979
01:06:53,776 --> 01:06:54,610
THE PRESENTATION POINT COULD 

1980
01:06:54,610 --> 01:06:55,411
AFTERNOON. 

1981
01:06:55,411 --> 01:06:55,711
>> CHAIR? 

1982
01:06:55,711 --> 01:06:56,245
>> YES? 

1983
01:06:56,245 --> 01:06:56,912
>> CHAIR, POINT OF PERSONAL -- 

1984
01:06:56,912 --> 01:07:07,390
POINT OF ORDER, I GUESS. ON 

1985
01:07:09,592 --> 01:07:10,793
ZOOM, THE CHAMBER ZOOM CONTROL 

1986
01:07:10,793 --> 01:07:11,961
IS NOT SHOWING WHAT IT IS 

1987
01:07:11,961 --> 01:07:13,028
SHOWING ON SEATTLE CHANNEL, SO I

1988
01:07:13,028 --> 01:07:14,430
HAVE THE TV ON MIXED WITH THIS 

1989
01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:15,431
POWERPOINT, SO JUST WONDERING IF

1990
01:07:15,431 --> 01:07:16,932
THERE IS A TECHNICAL FIX THAT WE

1991
01:07:16,932 --> 01:07:18,734
CAN MAKE, SO WE CAN SEE INTO 

1992
01:07:18,734 --> 01:07:21,837
CHAMBERS? 

1993
01:07:21,837 --> 01:07:22,671
>> SO, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, 

1994
01:07:22,671 --> 01:07:23,839
ARE YOU SAYING YOU CAN'T SEE 

1995
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:24,273
THE POWERPOINT? 

1996
01:07:24,273 --> 01:07:25,775
>> I CAN SEE THE POWERPOINT -- 

1997
01:07:25,775 --> 01:07:26,242
>> PRESENTERS? 

1998
01:07:26,242 --> 01:07:27,410
>> I CANNOT SEE INTO THE 

1999
01:07:27,410 --> 01:07:28,444
CHAMBERS. I CAN ON SEATTLE 

2000
01:07:28,444 --> 01:07:30,413
CHANNEL, BUT NOT ON THIS ZOOM. 

2001
01:07:30,413 --> 01:07:34,316
>> SO, MR. CLERK WILL CONTACT 

2002
01:07:34,316 --> 01:07:35,451
SEATTLE CHANNEL TO FIX IT. 

2003
01:07:35,451 --> 01:07:36,519
>> IT'S FIXED! THERE, IT IS 

2004
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:37,153
PART 

2005
01:07:37,153 --> 01:07:37,787
>> THERE, YOU GO, COUNCILMEMBER 

2006
01:07:37,787 --> 01:07:38,054
STRAUSS. 

2007
01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:43,159
>> THANKS, I.T. LEGIT. 

2008
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:44,427
>> THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR 

2009
01:07:44,427 --> 01:07:46,095
DISTRICT 6. OKAY. OKAY, WELL -- 

2010
01:07:46,228 --> 01:07:46,796
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU 

2011
01:07:46,796 --> 01:07:47,430
VERY MUCH. I AM DENISE 

2012
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:48,230
KROWNBELL, STRATEGIC ADVISER 

2013
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:49,265
FROM SEATTLE CITY LIGHT AND THIS

2014
01:07:49,265 --> 01:07:51,133
IS THE ESA LAND DEEDS ACCEPTANCE

2015
01:07:51,133 --> 01:08:01,644
ORDINANCE. THIS PROGRAM IS A 

2016
01:08:07,149 --> 01:08:07,883
VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. IT STARTED IN

2017
01:08:07,883 --> 01:08:08,984
2000, WITH THE LISTING OF 

2018
01:08:08,984 --> 01:08:09,985
CHINOOK AND BULL TRAIL AND 

2019
01:08:09,985 --> 01:08:10,986
STEELHEAD WAS INCLUDED IN THIS 

2020
01:08:10,986 --> 01:08:12,154
WORK, WITH ITS LISTING IN 2007. 

2021
01:08:12,154 --> 01:08:13,389
AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY TO PROTECT

2022
01:08:13,389 --> 01:08:14,623
HABITAT THAT IS CRITICAL TO THIS

2023
01:08:14,623 --> 01:08:15,658
SPECIES. WITH THIS ORDINANCE, WE

2024
01:08:15,658 --> 01:08:16,659
ARE COVERING AND INCLUDING IN 

2025
01:08:16,659 --> 01:08:18,928
THE PAST, 3900 ACRES IN SKAGIT 

2026
01:08:18,928 --> 01:08:19,929
AND THE TOTAL WATERSHEDS TODAY 

2027
01:08:19,929 --> 01:08:27,103
THAT ARE BEING PROTECTED. THESE 

2028
01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:28,137
ARE ALL PURCHASES THAT ARE 

2029
01:08:28,137 --> 01:08:28,804
CONSISTENT WITH REGIONAL SALMON 

2030
01:08:28,804 --> 01:08:30,573
RECOVERY PLANS IN THE SKAGIT AND

2031
01:08:30,573 --> 01:08:32,408
SNOHOMISH BASIN. AND JUST TO 

2032
01:08:32,408 --> 01:08:34,109
TALK ABOUT HOW THIS EXPANDS 

2033
01:08:34,109 --> 01:08:44,653
FUNDING, THAT SINCE THIS PROGRAM

2034
01:08:49,558 --> 01:08:50,593
HAS BEGUN, WE HAVE USED $6.9 

2035
01:08:50,593 --> 01:08:51,760
MILLION OF CITY LIGHT FUNDS AND 

2036
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,828
HAVE ACCESS TO $10.6 MILLION OF 

2037
01:08:52,828 --> 01:08:54,230
GRANT FUNDS AND THAT IS FROM 

2038
01:08:54,230 --> 01:08:54,930
MOSTLY FROM EITHER SALMON 

2039
01:08:54,930 --> 01:08:55,731
RECOVERY FUNDING BOARD OR 

2040
01:08:55,731 --> 01:08:56,966
NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE 

2041
01:08:56,966 --> 01:09:07,176
FOUNDATION. 

2042
01:09:07,376 --> 01:09:08,978
>> HEY, DENISE, CAN I ASK YOU A 

2043
01:09:08,978 --> 01:09:09,345
QUICK QUESTION? 

2044
01:09:09,345 --> 01:09:09,979
>> SURE. 

2045
01:09:09,979 --> 01:09:11,013
>> THE SKAGIT IS UP NORTH, WE 

2046
01:09:11,013 --> 01:09:12,047
SEE THE OTHER WATERSHED, YOU'RE

2047
01:09:12,047 --> 01:09:13,048
TALKING ABOUT DOWN SOUTH TOWARD 

2048
01:09:13,048 --> 01:09:13,482
MOUNT RAINIER? 

2049
01:09:13,482 --> 01:09:14,683
>> THE TALLEST PART OF THE 

2050
01:09:14,683 --> 01:09:15,684
SNOHOMISH, SO WHERE IT ENTERS 

2051
01:09:15,684 --> 01:09:16,785
PUGET SOUND BY EVERETT, STILL 

2052
01:09:16,785 --> 01:09:17,386
NORTH OF US. 

2053
01:09:17,386 --> 01:09:17,786
>> OKAY. 

2054
01:09:17,786 --> 01:09:26,529
>> WHERE THE OUTLET IS. THE TOLL

2055
01:09:26,529 --> 01:09:27,530
ITSELF IS OUT BY CARNATION AND 

2056
01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:27,863
DO FALL. 

2057
01:09:27,863 --> 01:09:28,697
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. 

2058
01:09:28,697 --> 01:09:30,065
>> SURE. THIS MAP SHOWS OVERALL,

2059
01:09:30,065 --> 01:09:31,133
IN RED, ALL OF THE PROPERTIES 

2060
01:09:31,133 --> 01:09:32,368
THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ESA 

2061
01:09:32,368 --> 01:09:33,569
LAND PROGRAM. THE ONES WITH THE 

2062
01:09:33,569 --> 01:09:34,570
YELLOW LABEL ARE THE PROPERTIES 

2063
01:09:34,570 --> 01:09:35,638
THAT ARE COVERED BY THIS 

2064
01:09:35,638 --> 01:09:36,472
SPECIFIC ORDINANCE. AND THEN, 

2065
01:09:36,472 --> 01:09:37,706
THERE IS ONE PROPERTY THAT IS 

2066
01:09:37,706 --> 01:09:39,108
ALSO GREEN AND RED AND IT JUST 

2067
01:09:39,108 --> 01:09:40,342
IS A PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED

2068
01:09:40,342 --> 01:09:41,544
WITH BOTH ESA FUNDING, AND THEN 

2069
01:09:41,544 --> 01:09:42,578
CURRENT SKAGIT LICENSE WILDLIFE 

2070
01:09:42,578 --> 01:09:45,080
AND FISHERY LANDS. NEXT SLIDE, 

2071
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,282
PLEASE. THIS IS SHOWING THE 

2072
01:09:46,282 --> 01:09:47,616
PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED, THE

2073
01:09:47,616 --> 01:09:48,517
MEYER PROPERTY, AND SHOWING THE 

2074
01:09:48,517 --> 01:09:54,456
OTHER HOLDINGS IN THE TOLD AND I

2075
01:09:54,456 --> 01:09:55,858
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT CITY LIGHT

2076
01:09:55,858 --> 01:09:57,092
PARTNERS WITH KING COUNTY, TO 

2077
01:09:57,092 --> 01:10:01,263
WORK AT SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE 

2078
01:10:01,263 --> 01:10:02,398
TOLT, AREAS THAT WOULD BE GOOD 

2079
01:10:02,398 --> 01:10:06,502
TO REQUIRE LAND, AND GET PEOPLE 

2080
01:10:06,502 --> 01:10:07,736
OUT OF HARM'S WAY. 

2081
01:10:07,736 --> 01:10:08,737
>> SO, DENISE, WHAT IS THE BIG, 

2082
01:10:08,737 --> 01:10:11,974
RED SQUARE FOR? 

2083
01:10:11,974 --> 01:10:13,175
>> THAT IS THE CREEK PURCHASE, 

2084
01:10:13,175 --> 01:10:14,343
THAT IS OUR CLIMATE ADAPTATION 

2085
01:10:14,343 --> 01:10:15,444
PROPERTY WHERE WE ARE DOING A 

2086
01:10:15,444 --> 01:10:23,052
LOT OF DIFFERENT TREE PLANTINGS 

2087
01:10:23,052 --> 01:10:24,420
TO SEE HOW THEY WILL RESPOND TO 

2088
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:25,521
CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT WILL BE 

2089
01:10:25,521 --> 01:10:26,655
A WHOLE OTHER PRESENTATION THAT 

2090
01:10:26,655 --> 01:10:28,224
I WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU AT 

2091
01:10:28,224 --> 01:10:28,624
SOME TIME. 

2092
01:10:28,624 --> 01:10:30,125
>> I JUST WANT A BIGGER MAP, 

2093
01:10:30,125 --> 01:10:40,669
THAT IS ALL. SQUINTING FROM THE 

2094
01:10:47,876 --> 01:10:49,044
PRINTER AND THE THING, BUT THANK

2095
01:10:49,044 --> 01:10:50,779
YOU, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE 

2096
01:10:50,779 --> 01:10:51,413
EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC CAN SEE 

2097
01:10:51,413 --> 01:10:52,381
IT, AS WELL. THANK YOU. 

2098
01:10:52,381 --> 01:10:54,183
>> THANK YOU. FOR THE SPECIFICS 

2099
01:10:54,183 --> 01:10:54,883
IN THIS ORDINANCE, WE ARE 

2100
01:10:54,883 --> 01:10:55,651
ACCEPTING THESE DEEDS FOR EIGHT 

2101
01:10:55,651 --> 01:10:56,919
PROPERTIES, AND IT IS FOR THESE 

2102
01:10:56,919 --> 01:10:57,987
PROPERTIES IN BOTH THE SKAGIT 

2103
01:10:57,987 --> 01:10:59,388
AND THE TOLT, 326 ACRES IN THE 

2104
01:10:59,388 --> 01:11:00,823
SKAGIT AND JUST SHY OF ONE ACRE 

2105
01:11:00,823 --> 01:11:02,024
IN THE TOLT. AND THIS ORDINANCE 

2106
01:11:02,024 --> 01:11:03,359
RATIFIES THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE 

2107
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:03,959
GRANTS, AND SPECIFICALLY, 

2108
01:11:03,959 --> 01:11:05,261
$60,000 IN CITY LIGHT FUNDS, AND

2109
01:11:05,261 --> 01:11:07,963
$5 MILLION IN STATE GRANT FUNDS.

2110
01:11:07,963 --> 01:11:09,198
>> THANK YOU. 

2111
01:11:09,198 --> 01:11:10,666
>> AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO 

2112
01:11:10,666 --> 01:11:11,266
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 

2113
01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:12,501
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM 

2114
01:11:12,501 --> 01:11:13,736
MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE I MOVED TO 

2115
01:11:13,736 --> 01:11:24,279
SUSPEND THE RULES? EVERYBODY -- 

2116
01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:32,755
I GUESS EVERYBODY IS GOOD FOR 

2117
01:11:32,755 --> 01:11:34,189
THE MAP, I GUESS I AM THE ONLY 

2118
01:11:34,189 --> 01:11:35,491
ONE WHO CAN'T SEE. SO, THANK 

2119
01:11:35,491 --> 01:11:36,625
YOU, DENISE, AND I WILL GO 

2120
01:11:36,625 --> 01:11:37,893
FORWARD, THEN. IF THERE ARE NO 

2121
01:11:37,893 --> 01:11:38,727
OBJECTIONS, THE COUNCIL RULES 

2122
01:11:38,727 --> 01:11:39,928
WILL BE SUSPENDED TO ALLOW THE 

2123
01:11:39,928 --> 01:11:40,996
COMMITTEE TO VOTE ON LEGISLATION

2124
01:11:40,996 --> 01:11:42,431
ON THE SAME DAY THAT HEARING WAS

2125
01:11:42,431 --> 01:11:43,432
HELD. HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE 

2126
01:11:43,432 --> 01:11:44,466
COUNCIL IS SUSPENDED AND THE 

2127
01:11:44,466 --> 01:11:45,301
COMMITTEE WILL PROCEED WITH 

2128
01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:46,902
VOTING ON COUNCIL BILL 121199. I

2129
01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:47,503
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE 

2130
01:11:47,503 --> 01:11:48,470
RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF COUNCIL 

2131
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:49,938
BILL 121199. IS THERE A SECOND? 

2132
01:11:50,072 --> 01:11:50,339
>> SECOND. 

2133
01:11:50,339 --> 01:11:51,807
>> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN MOVED 

2134
01:11:51,807 --> 01:11:52,808
AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND THE 

2135
01:11:52,808 --> 01:11:54,076
PASSAGE OF THE BILL, SEEING NO 

2136
01:11:54,076 --> 01:11:54,910
FURTHER COMMENTS, CLERK, PLEASE 

2137
01:11:54,910 --> 01:11:55,477
CALL THE ROLE? 

2138
01:11:55,477 --> 01:11:56,078
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

2139
01:11:56,078 --> 01:11:56,912
>> YES. 

2140
01:11:56,912 --> 01:11:59,915
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

2141
01:11:59,915 --> 01:12:00,349
>> AYE. 

2142
01:12:00,349 --> 01:12:00,949
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? 

2143
01:12:00,949 --> 01:12:01,417
>> AYE. 

2144
01:12:01,417 --> 01:12:02,017
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? 

2145
01:12:02,017 --> 01:12:03,018
>> AYE. 

2146
01:12:03,018 --> 01:12:13,328
>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

2147
01:12:13,896 --> 01:12:14,329
>> AYE. 

2148
01:12:14,329 --> 01:12:15,831
>> CHAIR, FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR, 

2149
01:12:15,831 --> 01:12:16,165
ZERO OPPOSED. 

2150
01:12:16,165 --> 01:12:16,799
>> THE BILL CARRIES, COUNCIL 

2151
01:12:16,799 --> 01:12:18,233
BILL 121199 WILL BE SENT TO THE 

2152
01:12:18,233 --> 01:12:19,702
JUNE -- IS IT JUNE 2nd? JUNE 

2153
01:12:19,702 --> 01:12:20,903
2nd? I THOUGHT THAT WAS COUNCIL.

2154
01:12:20,903 --> 01:12:22,571
JUNE 2nd? OKAY. OH, SORRY. OKAY,

2155
01:12:22,571 --> 01:12:26,108
THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU. [ 

2156
01:12:26,108 --> 01:12:28,043
LAUGHTER ] THIS WILL BE SENT TO 

2157
01:12:28,043 --> 01:12:29,311
THE JUNE 2nd FULL CITY COUNCIL 

2158
01:12:29,311 --> 01:12:30,746
MEETING. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO

2159
01:12:30,746 --> 01:12:39,455
ITEMS TWO AND THREE. NOW, THIS 

2160
01:12:39,455 --> 01:12:41,190
IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING 

2161
01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:41,824
BECAUSE WE HAVE ITEMS TWO AND 

2162
01:12:41,824 --> 01:12:42,958
THREE, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME 

2163
01:12:42,958 --> 01:12:43,959
POWERPOINT, CORRECT? SO, IF WE 

2164
01:12:43,959 --> 01:12:45,194
HAVE NEW PEOPLE AT THE TABLE 

2165
01:12:45,194 --> 01:12:46,195
THAT COULD INTRODUCE THEMSELVES,

2166
01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:47,629
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A 

2167
01:12:47,629 --> 01:12:48,530
POWERPOINT THAT YOU HAVE IN 

2168
01:12:48,530 --> 01:12:50,532
FRONT OF US, I AM GOING TO LET 

2169
01:12:50,532 --> 01:12:51,934
THE COURT -- CLERK GO AHEAD AND 

2170
01:12:51,934 --> 01:12:53,168
READ THE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD, 

2171
01:12:53,168 --> 01:12:54,403
THEN I WILL SAY SOMETHING, THEN 

2172
01:12:54,403 --> 01:12:55,871
WE WILL GO BACK TO THE TABLE. 

2173
01:12:55,871 --> 01:12:57,039
>> AGENDA ITEMS TWO AND THREE, 

2174
01:12:57,039 --> 01:12:58,640
COUNCIL BILL 121204 AND 121205, 

2175
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:06,615
ORDINANCES RELATING TO THE CITY 

2176
01:13:06,615 --> 01:13:07,583
LIGHT DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZING THE

2177
01:13:07,583 --> 01:13:08,450
CITY MANAGER AND GENERAL CEO TO 

2178
01:13:08,450 --> 01:13:09,685
GRANT AN EASEMENT OVER A PORTION

2179
01:13:09,685 --> 01:13:10,919
OF THE FEE OWNED PROPERTY TO 

2180
01:13:10,919 --> 01:13:12,020
PUGET SOUND ENERGY IN KING 

2181
01:13:12,020 --> 01:13:22,531
COUNTY AND AFFECT ACCEPTING 

2182
01:13:22,531 --> 01:13:23,866
PAYMENTS OF THE FAIR MARKET 

2183
01:13:23,866 --> 01:13:24,566
VALUE FOR THE EASEMENT. THERE 

2184
01:13:24,566 --> 01:13:25,534
WILL BE BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, 

2185
01:13:25,534 --> 01:13:26,235
AND A POSSIBLE VOTE. 

2186
01:13:26,235 --> 01:13:27,636
>> OKAY, SO, JUST FOR SOME 

2187
01:13:27,636 --> 01:13:28,704
CLARIFICATION, I KNOW ME AND THE

2188
01:13:28,704 --> 01:13:29,705
CLERK WERE MAKING SURE WE 

2189
01:13:29,705 --> 01:13:30,639
UNDERSTOOD THIS -- PLEASE 

2190
01:13:30,639 --> 01:13:31,974
CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, FOLKS,

2191
01:13:31,974 --> 01:13:32,775
PARTICULARLY YOU, PAUL -- 

2192
01:13:32,775 --> 01:13:34,209
COUNCIL BILL 121204 HAS TO DO 

2193
01:13:34,209 --> 01:13:35,277
WITH PUGET SOUND ENERGY, THE 

2194
01:13:35,277 --> 01:13:36,278
EASEMENT, FAIR MARKET VALUE AT 

2195
01:13:36,278 --> 01:13:37,513
6800. AND COUNCIL BILL 121205 

2196
01:13:37,513 --> 01:13:38,747
HAS TO DEAL WITH FAIR MARKET 

2197
01:13:38,747 --> 01:13:48,056
VALUE, NUMBERS, EASEMENT, 

2198
01:13:48,056 --> 01:13:49,191
PAYMENT TO KING COUNTY. ALL 

2199
01:13:49,191 --> 01:13:49,958
RIGHT, THOSE ARE THE TWO 

2200
01:13:49,958 --> 01:13:51,193
MATTERS. ALL RIGHT, I WILL LET 

2201
01:13:51,193 --> 01:13:52,027
YOU REINTRODUCE YOURSELVES FOR 

2202
01:13:52,027 --> 01:13:53,028
THE RECORD AND THE VIEWING 

2203
01:13:53,028 --> 01:13:54,663
PUBLIC AND THEN I WILL LET YOU 

2204
01:13:54,663 --> 01:13:55,297
GO THROUGH YOUR POWERPOINT. 

2205
01:13:55,297 --> 01:13:57,166
>> GREAT, THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN 

2206
01:13:57,166 --> 01:13:59,768
JUAREZ. AS THE CLERK AND YOU 

2207
01:13:59,768 --> 01:14:00,803
BOTH INDICATED, WE ARE BRINGING 

2208
01:14:00,803 --> 01:14:01,603
FORWARD TWO ORDINANCES THAT 

2209
01:14:01,603 --> 01:14:02,604
ALLOW CITY LIGHT TO PROVIDE 

2210
01:14:02,604 --> 01:14:05,607
LIMITED EASEMENTS TO PUGET SOUND

2211
01:14:05,607 --> 01:14:06,708
ON CITY LIGHT PROPERTY, THESE 

2212
01:14:06,708 --> 01:14:07,409
ARE LIMITED EASEMENTS THAT 

2213
01:14:07,409 --> 01:14:08,043
SUPPORT PARTNER INFRASTRUCTURE 

2214
01:14:08,043 --> 01:14:11,079
PROJECTS WHILE MAINTAINING CITY 

2215
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:11,980
LIGHT'S OPERATIONS AND SYSTEM 

2216
01:14:11,980 --> 01:14:12,748
RELIABILITY. BOTH OUR ACTIONS 

2217
01:14:12,748 --> 01:14:13,715
ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR ONGOING 

2218
01:14:13,715 --> 01:14:16,752
COORDINATION WITH THE PARTNERS, 

2219
01:14:16,752 --> 01:14:17,820
AND INCLUDE FAIR MARKET VALUE 

2220
01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:19,054
COMPENSATION AND I WILL TURN IT 

2221
01:14:19,054 --> 01:14:24,426
OVER TO KATY TASSERY, OUR REAL 

2222
01:14:24,426 --> 01:14:25,360
ESTATE SERVICES MANAGER, TO WALK

2223
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,929
THROUGH THE DETAILS AND ANSWER 

2224
01:14:26,929 --> 01:14:35,270
ANY QUESTIONS, AS SHE HAS SOME 

2225
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:36,171
SUPPORTING CAST WITH HER, AS 

2226
01:14:36,171 --> 01:14:37,172
WELL, IF THERE ARE ANY 

2227
01:14:37,172 --> 01:14:37,472
QUESTIONS. 

2228
01:14:37,472 --> 01:14:38,440
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, 

2229
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:39,741
COUNCIL. I AM KATY TASSERY, THE 

2230
01:14:39,741 --> 01:14:41,810
OUT OF CLASS REAL ESTATE MANAGER

2231
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:51,553
FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT, HERE TO 

2232
01:14:51,553 --> 01:14:52,855
PRESENT ON THESE TWO TOPICS. AND

2233
01:14:52,855 --> 01:14:54,156
WE HAVE THE ORDER A LITTLE BIT 

2234
01:14:54,156 --> 01:14:55,524
DIFFERENT IN THE PRESENTATION, I

2235
01:14:55,524 --> 01:14:56,191
HOPE THAT IS OKAY. 

2236
01:14:56,191 --> 01:14:57,459
>> I KNOW, YOU REVERSED IT ON 

2237
01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:58,660
ME, THAT'S WHY I WAS GETTING 

2238
01:14:58,660 --> 01:14:59,528
CONFUSED, BUT GO AHEAD. 

2239
01:14:59,528 --> 01:15:01,129
>> AND I WILL PASS IT OVER TO 

2240
01:15:01,129 --> 01:15:01,363
BILL. 

2241
01:15:01,363 --> 01:15:02,965
>> IT AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS BILL

2242
01:15:02,965 --> 01:15:04,199
DEVEREAUX, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF 

2243
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:05,033
FINANCE AND REAL ESTATE. 

2244
01:15:05,033 --> 01:15:06,301
>> IT AFTERNOON, ANDY STRONG, 

2245
01:15:06,301 --> 01:15:07,469
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT ENGINEERING 

2246
01:15:07,469 --> 01:15:08,103
AND PROJECT DELIVERY OFFICER. 

2247
01:15:08,103 --> 01:15:09,738
>> AND I AM ERIC McCONAGHY ON 

2248
01:15:09,738 --> 01:15:10,606
THE COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 

2249
01:15:10,606 --> 01:15:16,478
>> ALL RIGHT. 

2250
01:15:16,478 --> 01:15:18,113
>> SO, WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU 

2251
01:15:18,113 --> 01:15:18,780
BECAUSE THE CITY CHARTER 

2252
01:15:18,780 --> 01:15:19,414
REQUIRES PROPERTY ACTIONS, 

2253
01:15:19,414 --> 01:15:20,048
INCLUDING DISPOSITIONS OF 

2254
01:15:20,048 --> 01:15:27,890
EASEMENTS, PROPERTY RIGHTS, TO 

2255
01:15:27,890 --> 01:15:28,490
BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL 

2256
01:15:28,490 --> 01:15:29,791
BEFORE CITY COUNCIL CAN EXECUTE 

2257
01:15:29,791 --> 01:15:30,659
ON THEM. AND THESE TWO PROJECTS,

2258
01:15:30,659 --> 01:15:31,660
TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS, WOULD 

2259
01:15:31,660 --> 01:15:32,361
ALLOW OUR PARTNER AGENCIES TO 

2260
01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:33,695
MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS THAT 

2261
01:15:33,695 --> 01:15:35,364
HAVE NO IMPACT ON CITY LIGHT 

2262
01:15:35,364 --> 01:15:44,239
OPERATIONS. SO, THE FIRST ONE, 

2263
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:45,307
HERE, IS AN EASEMENT CONVEYANCE 

2264
01:15:45,307 --> 01:15:46,842
TO KING COUNTY, THIS IS A SIMPLE

2265
01:15:46,842 --> 01:15:48,310
PARCEL THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT 

2266
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:49,011
OWNS IN SKYWAY, WHICH IS 

2267
01:15:49,011 --> 01:15:49,678
UNINCORPORATED KING COUNTY. IT 

2268
01:15:49,678 --> 01:15:50,779
IS PART OF OUR TRANSMISSION 

2269
01:15:50,779 --> 01:15:52,347
CORRIDOR, AND -- NEXT SLIDE, 

2270
01:15:52,347 --> 01:15:59,555
PLEASE -- KING COUNTY HAS A 

2271
01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:00,489
PROJECT TO DO SOME ROADWAY 

2272
01:16:00,489 --> 01:16:01,456
IMPROVEMENTS AT SEVEN 

2273
01:16:01,456 --> 01:16:02,424
INTERSECTIONS. ONE OF WHICH, 

2274
01:16:02,424 --> 01:16:03,392
OVERLAPS WITH OUR PROPERTY, IT 

2275
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:13,201
IS JUST A TEENY TINY OVERLAP. 

2276
01:16:13,201 --> 01:16:14,002
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, YOU CAN 

2277
01:16:14,002 --> 01:16:15,704
SEE HERE, THE SCALE ON THIS, IT 

2278
01:16:15,704 --> 01:16:16,872
IS A 65 SQUARE-FOOT TRIANGULAR 

2279
01:16:16,872 --> 01:16:18,040
PORTION OF THE SEATTLE CITY 

2280
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:18,740
LIGHT PROPERTY. KING COUNTY 

2281
01:16:18,740 --> 01:16:19,775
NEEDS A PERMANENT EASEMENT FOR 

2282
01:16:19,775 --> 01:16:21,977
AN A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALK 

2283
01:16:21,977 --> 01:16:23,745
RAMP TO BE INSTALLED AT THAT 

2284
01:16:23,745 --> 01:16:25,948
INTERSECTION, AND NO IMPACT TO 

2285
01:16:25,948 --> 01:16:27,382
CITY LIGHT OPERATIONS, SO THAT 

2286
01:16:27,382 --> 01:16:33,255
IS THAT ONE. ANY QUESTIONS ON 

2287
01:16:33,255 --> 01:16:33,655
THAT ONE? 

2288
01:16:33,655 --> 01:16:34,790
>> ANY QUESTIONS? NOT SEEING 

2289
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:41,229
ANY. 

2290
01:16:41,229 --> 01:16:42,497
>> AND THEN, THE NEXT PROPERTY 

2291
01:16:42,497 --> 01:16:43,298
TRANSACTION, HERE, IS ANOTHER 

2292
01:16:43,298 --> 01:16:44,333
FEE SIMPLE PROPERTY THAT SEATTLE

2293
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:47,569
CITY LIGHT OWNS, THIS TIME IT'S

2294
01:16:47,569 --> 01:16:49,071
AT THE JUNCTION OF I-405 AND 

2295
01:16:49,071 --> 01:16:50,539
I-90 IN BELLEVUE, KIND OF THE 

2296
01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:55,277
WILBERT AND NEIGHBORHOOD. AND 

2297
01:16:55,277 --> 01:16:56,612
THERE IS A TRANSMISSION POLL ON 

2298
01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:57,479
THIS PROPERTY WHICH HAS SOME 

2299
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,247
EQUIPMENT THAT IS KNOWN BY 

2300
01:16:59,247 --> 01:17:04,252
T-MOBILE, THAT CITY LIGHT LEASES

2301
01:17:04,252 --> 01:17:05,420
OUT TO T-MOBILE FOR, LIKE, IT IS

2302
01:17:05,420 --> 01:17:07,022
A CELLULAR CLUSTER, SO THEY CAN 

2303
01:17:07,022 --> 01:17:07,823
BROADCAST THEIR SIGNAL FOR 

2304
01:17:07,823 --> 01:17:09,157
SELF-SERVICE. AND T-MOBILE 

2305
01:17:09,157 --> 01:17:12,494
REQUIRES A GENERATOR AS BACKUP 

2306
01:17:12,494 --> 01:17:13,729
POWER TO POWER THEIR 

2307
01:17:13,729 --> 01:17:24,206
INFRASTRUCTURE. THE NEAREST 

2308
01:17:27,609 --> 01:17:28,243
POWER SUPPLIER IS PUGET SOUND 

2309
01:17:28,243 --> 01:17:29,645
ENERGY, AND THEY HAVE A NATURAL 

2310
01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:30,512
GAS LINE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 

2311
01:17:30,512 --> 01:17:31,380
>> WAIT, LET'S HOLD UP, HERE. 

2312
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:32,514
THIS IS WHERE WE HAD SOME 

2313
01:17:32,514 --> 01:17:33,315
HEARTBURN WITH SOME FOLKS. 

2314
01:17:33,315 --> 01:17:34,149
UPGRADES REQUIRE GENERATOR POWER

2315
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:35,150
FROM NEARBY PUGET SOUND ENERGY 

2316
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:36,385
GAS LINE. SO, CAN YOU JUST 

2317
01:17:36,385 --> 01:17:37,819
EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE

2318
01:17:37,819 --> 01:17:38,453
EXISTING T-MOBILE EQUIPMENT, 

2319
01:17:38,453 --> 01:17:39,087
WHAT HAPPENED, HERE? 

2320
01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:49,631
>> SO, THE T-MOBILE EQUIPMENT IS

2321
01:17:50,065 --> 01:17:50,732
POWERED BY ELECTRICITY, 

2322
01:17:50,732 --> 01:17:51,800
CURRENTLY, BUT IF THERE IS A 

2323
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:52,834
POWER OUTAGE, THEY WILL NEED A 

2324
01:17:52,834 --> 01:17:53,935
BACKUP SOURCE OF ENERGY, TO BE 

2325
01:17:53,935 --> 01:17:54,903
ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR EQUIPMENT

2326
01:17:54,903 --> 01:17:57,372
TO BROADCAST THE SIGNAL. SO, 

2327
01:17:57,372 --> 01:17:58,173
THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED A 

2328
01:17:58,173 --> 01:17:59,241
PROPANE ENERGY SOURCE, WHICH WE 

2329
01:17:59,241 --> 01:18:03,478
DECLINED, BECAUSE OF THE RISK TO

2330
01:18:03,478 --> 01:18:04,479
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ON THE NEXT 

2331
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,915
SLIDE, I THINK YOU CAN SEE A BIT

2332
01:18:06,915 --> 01:18:16,024
MORE CLEARLY, THE DISTANCES 

2333
01:18:16,024 --> 01:18:16,658
BETWEEN THE NATURAL GAS LINE -- 

2334
01:18:16,658 --> 01:18:17,592
WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED THERE, IN 

2335
01:18:17,592 --> 01:18:18,727
YELLOW -- THE GENERATOR -- WHICH

2336
01:18:18,727 --> 01:18:20,162
IS ABOUT 42 FEET AWAY FROM THE 

2337
01:18:20,162 --> 01:18:20,862
TRANSMISSION POLL, WHICH IS 

2338
01:18:20,862 --> 01:18:24,766
HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN -- AND THE 

2339
01:18:24,766 --> 01:18:25,967
LINES FROM THE TRANSMISSION POLE

2340
01:18:25,967 --> 01:18:27,369
GO IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS FROM 

2341
01:18:27,369 --> 01:18:27,969
THE GENERATOR AND THE NATURAL 

2342
01:18:27,969 --> 01:18:38,513
GAS LINE. SO, 41.6 FEET IS THE 

2343
01:18:39,081 --> 01:18:39,781
MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN THE 

2344
01:18:39,781 --> 01:18:40,716
NATURAL GAS LINE AND THAT 

2345
01:18:40,716 --> 01:18:41,283
TRANSMISSION POLE. 

2346
01:18:41,283 --> 01:18:42,384
>> SO, THEY USE ELECTRICITY NOW,

2347
01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:43,819
AND YOU ARE JUST SAYING IF THE 

2348
01:18:43,819 --> 01:18:44,820
POWER GOES OUT, THEN THE 

2349
01:18:44,820 --> 01:18:45,987
GENERATOR WILL BE POWERED BY THE

2350
01:18:45,987 --> 01:18:53,128
GAS LINE? SO, IT'S NOT, LIKE 

2351
01:18:53,128 --> 01:18:54,396
EMMA SWITCHING OVER TO GAS FROM 

2352
01:18:54,396 --> 01:18:54,729
ELECTRICITY? 

2353
01:18:54,729 --> 01:18:55,363
>> THAT'S RIGHT. 

2354
01:18:55,363 --> 01:18:56,598
>> ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS THE 

2355
01:18:56,598 --> 01:18:57,499
QUESTION SOME COUNCILMEMBERS 

2356
01:18:57,499 --> 01:18:58,300
HAD. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 

2357
01:18:58,300 --> 01:18:59,334
I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE SIX, 

2358
01:18:59,334 --> 01:19:00,735
STILL, BUT NOW WE ARE ON SEVEN. 

2359
01:19:00,735 --> 01:19:01,670
OKAY, GOT IT. 

2360
01:19:01,670 --> 01:19:03,605
>> MAY I JUMP IN? 

2361
01:19:03,605 --> 01:19:05,006
>> OH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE

2362
01:19:05,006 --> 01:19:05,807
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I 

2363
01:19:05,807 --> 01:19:07,109
SHOULD HAVE SEEN YOUR HAND UP. 

2364
01:19:07,109 --> 01:19:07,542
GO AHEAD. 

2365
01:19:07,542 --> 01:19:12,214
>> NOPE. NO PROBLEM. JUST ASKING

2366
01:19:12,214 --> 01:19:13,515
A STUPID QUESTION OF, IF WE ARE 

2367
01:19:13,515 --> 01:19:14,850
TALKING ABOUT, EITHER HAVING A 

2368
01:19:14,850 --> 01:19:15,584
GAS -- YOU KNOW, GASOLINE 

2369
01:19:15,584 --> 01:19:16,384
GENERATOR, OR A PROPANE 

2370
01:19:16,384 --> 01:19:17,953
GENERATOR, OR A NATURAL GAS 

2371
01:19:17,953 --> 01:19:21,857
LINE, HOW -- ALL OF THOSE ARE 

2372
01:19:21,857 --> 01:19:23,158
EXPLOSIVE, ALL OF THOSE ARE NEAR

2373
01:19:23,158 --> 01:19:29,564
OUR TRANSMISSION TOWER. HOW ARE 

2374
01:19:29,564 --> 01:19:30,765
THEY DIFFERENT? HOW ARE THEY THE

2375
01:19:30,765 --> 01:19:32,167
SAME? AND WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE

2376
01:19:32,167 --> 01:19:37,939
A LOT OF TIME IN COMMITTEE 

2377
01:19:37,939 --> 01:19:39,307
TODAY, I'M JUST -- I STILL HAVE

2378
01:19:39,307 --> 01:19:39,841
CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING 

2379
01:19:39,841 --> 01:19:40,475
COMBUSTIBLES NEAR OUR 

2380
01:19:40,475 --> 01:19:41,910
TRANSMISSION TOWERS AND IF THERE

2381
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:52,420
IS AN ISSUE WITH T-MOBILE, I 

2382
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,195
GUESS, I OPENLY -- I WONDER OUT 

2383
01:20:00,195 --> 01:20:01,596
LOUD AS TO, MAYBE THEY NEED A 

2384
01:20:01,596 --> 01:20:02,731
DIFFERENT PLACE TO PUT THEIR 

2385
01:20:02,731 --> 01:20:03,899
TOWER. BUT, I DON'T -- YOU 

2386
01:20:03,899 --> 01:20:05,534
KNOW, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE A

2387
01:20:05,534 --> 01:20:06,801
RESPONSE FROM THE TABLE. I WILL 

2388
01:20:06,801 --> 01:20:08,036
BE WEIRD TODAY AND I WILL 

2389
01:20:08,036 --> 01:20:09,037
ABSTAIN, BECAUSE I STILL HAVE 

2390
01:20:09,037 --> 01:20:09,638
CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING 

2391
01:20:09,638 --> 01:20:10,272
COMBUSTIBLES NEAR OUR 

2392
01:20:10,272 --> 01:20:10,739
TRANSMISSION TOWERS. 

2393
01:20:10,739 --> 01:20:11,907
>> ACTUALLY, I AM GLAD YOU 

2394
01:20:11,907 --> 01:20:13,108
ASKED, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I 

2395
01:20:13,108 --> 01:20:13,809
THINK THAT'S A VERY INTELLIGENT

2396
01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:15,677
QUESTION TO ASK. BUT, IT DID 

2397
01:20:15,677 --> 01:20:16,811
ALLOW ME TO BREAK OUT MARK'S 

2398
01:20:16,811 --> 01:20:17,412
HANDBOOK FROM MECHANICAL 

2399
01:20:17,412 --> 01:20:18,413
ENGINEERING, TO FIND AN ANSWER 

2400
01:20:18,413 --> 01:20:18,914
FOR YOU. 

2401
01:20:18,914 --> 01:20:19,848
>> OH, THE NERD, YES! 

2402
01:20:19,848 --> 01:20:25,554
>> GOES WAY BACK. THE GOOD THING

2403
01:20:25,554 --> 01:20:26,621
ABOUT NATURAL GAS IN THIS 

2404
01:20:26,621 --> 01:20:27,622
PERSPECTIVE, IT IS LIGHTER THAN 

2405
01:20:27,622 --> 01:20:31,326
AIR, SO ANY ACCUMULATIONS TEND 

2406
01:20:31,326 --> 01:20:32,294
TO DISSIPATE QUITE QUICKLY. 

2407
01:20:32,294 --> 01:20:33,795
THERE IS NOT A STORAGE TANK 

2408
01:20:33,795 --> 01:20:37,032
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR 

2409
01:20:37,032 --> 01:20:42,904
PLACEMENT. AND SO, THAT MEANS 

2410
01:20:42,904 --> 01:20:43,939
THAT THE AMOUNT OF ACTUAL 

2411
01:20:43,939 --> 01:20:44,906
EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS IS REALLY 

2412
01:20:44,906 --> 01:20:49,778
QUITE SMALL. I CALCULATED IT TO 

2413
01:20:49,778 --> 01:20:52,681
BE ABOUT 560 JOULES. IF THE GAS 

2414
01:20:52,681 --> 01:20:57,485
LINE WERE TO BREAK, THAT IS 

2415
01:20:57,485 --> 01:20:58,420
APPROXIMATELY EQUIVALENT TO A 

2416
01:20:58,420 --> 01:21:00,155
ONE POUND OBJECT BEING DROPPED 

2417
01:21:00,155 --> 01:21:03,758
FROM ABOUT 125 FEET. SO, QUITE A

2418
01:21:03,758 --> 01:21:06,828
SMALL IMPACT, IF SOMETHING WERE 

2419
01:21:06,828 --> 01:21:11,166
TO HAPPEN, COMBINED WITH THE 

2420
01:21:11,166 --> 01:21:12,234
DISTANCE FROM THE TRANSMISSION 

2421
01:21:12,234 --> 01:21:16,738
TOWER ITSELF, I DON'T 

2422
01:21:16,738 --> 01:21:17,439
ANTICIPATE ANY IMPACT. 

2423
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:24,312
>> THANK YOU, ANDY, I'M HAPPY 

2424
01:21:24,312 --> 01:21:25,380
TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. I 

2425
01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:26,581
THINK YOU HAVEN'T SATIATED MY 

2426
01:21:26,581 --> 01:21:32,921
WORRY, ONE POUND FROM 125 FEET 

2427
01:21:32,921 --> 01:21:34,356
IS -- THAT IS NOT A LIGHT 

2428
01:21:34,356 --> 01:21:35,590
IMPACT, BUT I AM NOT A 

2429
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:36,391
MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND, YOU 

2430
01:21:36,391 --> 01:21:37,425
KNOW, STILL HAVE THE QUESTIONS 

2431
01:21:37,425 --> 01:21:39,361
OF, A RUPTURED LINE, IS THIS A 

2432
01:21:39,361 --> 01:21:41,896
CONTINUAL SOURCE OF 

2433
01:21:41,896 --> 01:21:43,398
COMBUSTIBLES? AND THAT IS AN 

2434
01:21:43,398 --> 01:21:44,532
ISSUE. SO, THE QUESTION STILL 

2435
01:21:44,532 --> 01:21:46,134
REMAINS, IF T-MOBILE STILL NEEDS

2436
01:21:46,134 --> 01:21:52,173
THIS KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR 

2437
01:21:52,173 --> 01:21:53,975
THEIR CELL TOWERS. MAYBE THIS IS

2438
01:21:53,975 --> 01:21:55,410
NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR IT. HAPPY

2439
01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:56,111
TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS 

2440
01:21:56,111 --> 01:21:57,712
OFF-LINE, AND THANK YOU FOR 

2441
01:21:57,712 --> 01:21:59,447
UNDERSTANDING MY WEIRD CONCERNS 

2442
01:21:59,447 --> 01:22:00,749
AND WHY I WILL BE ABSTAINING 

2443
01:22:00,749 --> 01:22:01,316
TODAY. THANK YOU. 

2444
01:22:01,316 --> 01:22:02,017
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2445
01:22:02,017 --> 01:22:02,851
STRAUSS. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? 

2446
01:22:02,851 --> 01:22:07,088
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. MR. STRONG,

2447
01:22:07,088 --> 01:22:08,223
I DO APPRECIATE THE JEWELS 

2448
01:22:08,223 --> 01:22:09,291
COMING UP, FLASHBACKS TO GOD 

2449
01:22:09,291 --> 01:22:13,461
KNOWS WHAT CLASS, YOU KNOW, IN 

2450
01:22:13,461 --> 01:22:19,868
TERMS OF CONTEXT, I SEEM TO SEE 

2451
01:22:19,868 --> 01:22:21,169
-- AND THERE ARE MANY OF OUR 

2452
01:22:21,169 --> 01:22:22,871
UTILITY POLES, I GUESS, ACROSS 

2453
01:22:22,871 --> 01:22:25,874
THE BOARD, WHERE THIS IS NOT A 

2454
01:22:25,874 --> 01:22:27,075
ONE-OFF, IN TERMS OF, LIKE, A 

2455
01:22:27,075 --> 01:22:30,545
CELL PROVIDER USING EQUIPMENT. 

2456
01:22:30,545 --> 01:22:31,980
CAN YOU GIVE US SOME CONTEXT IN 

2457
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:33,682
TERMS OF HOW OFTEN THIS HAS 

2458
01:22:33,682 --> 01:22:38,687
HAPPENED ACROSS THE NETWORK? AND

2459
01:22:38,687 --> 01:22:39,821
YOU KNOW, IS THIS A REGULAR 

2460
01:22:39,821 --> 01:22:41,056
THING? CAN YOU JUST GIVE SOME 

2461
01:22:41,056 --> 01:22:45,927
CONTEXT TO IT? I MEAN, I HAVE 

2462
01:22:45,927 --> 01:22:47,128
ONE NEAR MY HOUSE, IT'S NOT 

2463
01:22:47,128 --> 01:22:48,163
T-MOBILE, I DON'T THINK, BUT 

2464
01:22:48,163 --> 01:22:54,336
WHATEVER IT WAS, CAN YOU GIVE 

2465
01:22:54,336 --> 01:22:56,204
SOME CONTEXT TO THIS? IS THIS A 

2466
01:22:56,204 --> 01:22:57,205
ONE-OFF, OR IS IT PART OF THE 

2467
01:22:57,205 --> 01:22:57,706
STANDARD PRACTICE? 

2468
01:22:57,706 --> 01:22:59,007
>> CERTAINLY NOT A ONE-OFF. YOU 

2469
01:22:59,007 --> 01:23:00,075
KNOW, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HOST 

2470
01:23:00,075 --> 01:23:01,743
SMALL CELL SITES AND OTHER 

2471
01:23:01,743 --> 01:23:05,447
TELECOM INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO, 

2472
01:23:05,447 --> 01:23:10,318
WE DO WORK WITH TELECOM, A PLACE

2473
01:23:10,318 --> 01:23:11,686
THROUGHOUT OUR SERVICE AREA. I 

2474
01:23:11,686 --> 01:23:18,093
COULDN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT 

2475
01:23:18,093 --> 01:23:19,427
NUMBER OF SMALL CELL SITES THAT 

2476
01:23:19,427 --> 01:23:20,895
WE CURRENTLY HOST, BUT IT IS 

2477
01:23:20,895 --> 01:23:25,266
CONSIDERABLE. MOST OF THESE ARE 

2478
01:23:25,266 --> 01:23:26,201
HOSTED ON OUR VERTICAL, WOODEN 

2479
01:23:26,201 --> 01:23:27,302
INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR UTILITY 

2480
01:23:27,302 --> 01:23:29,537
POLES. WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF 

2481
01:23:29,537 --> 01:23:32,207
TELECOM PROVIDERS IN THE AREA TO

2482
01:23:32,207 --> 01:23:41,249
DO THAT PLACEMENT. IF THE 

2483
01:23:41,249 --> 01:23:42,317
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE, I CERTAINLY 

2484
01:23:42,317 --> 01:23:43,618
CAN GET THE EXACT NUMBER FOR 

2485
01:23:43,618 --> 01:23:45,787
YOU. BUT, IT -- IT IS SAFE TO 

2486
01:23:45,787 --> 01:23:48,089
SAY IT IS IN THE THOUSANDS. 

2487
01:23:48,089 --> 01:23:49,357
>> OKAY, THEN, YOU DON'T HAVE 

2488
01:23:49,357 --> 01:23:50,792
TO GIVE ME A NUMBER. THAT SHOWS 

2489
01:23:50,792 --> 01:23:51,793
THAT THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE, 

2490
01:23:51,793 --> 01:23:52,927
IF YOU WILL. 

2491
01:23:52,927 --> 01:23:56,865
>> YES. 

2492
01:23:56,865 --> 01:23:58,433
>> YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, I 

2493
01:23:58,433 --> 01:23:59,134
RECOGNIZE THIS THREAT TO 

2494
01:23:59,134 --> 01:24:00,135
ALLIANCE AND SO FORTH, MY 

2495
01:24:00,135 --> 01:24:01,236
BIGGEST CONCERN IS WITH CLIMATE 

2496
01:24:01,236 --> 01:24:09,077
CHANGE, AND GRASS FIRES, AND 

2497
01:24:09,077 --> 01:24:10,345
GRASS FIRES, THAT THREAT IS, I 

2498
01:24:10,345 --> 01:24:11,146
WOULD IMAGINE, WORSE THAN 

2499
01:24:11,146 --> 01:24:12,280
ANYTHING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 

2500
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:12,614
HERE TODAY. 

2501
01:24:12,614 --> 01:24:13,381
>> YES, IT IS. 

2502
01:24:13,381 --> 01:24:14,949
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

2503
01:24:15,083 --> 01:24:15,617
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2504
01:24:15,617 --> 01:24:16,718
KETTLE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID

2505
01:24:16,718 --> 01:24:17,719
YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FOLLOW-UP? 

2506
01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:22,524
ARE YOU GOOD? 

2507
01:24:22,524 --> 01:24:23,825
>> SO, JUST TO WRAP UP THE 

2508
01:24:23,825 --> 01:24:24,893
SLIDE, HERE, THE EASEMENT AREAS 

2509
01:24:24,893 --> 01:24:26,528
ARE A 10 FOOT BY 90 FOOT, LIKE, 

2510
01:24:26,528 --> 01:24:27,529
FOLLOWING THE PATH OF THE 

2511
01:24:27,529 --> 01:24:28,696
NATURAL GAS LINE. IT HAS BEEN 

2512
01:24:28,696 --> 01:24:29,597
APPRAISED FAIR MARKET VALUE 

2513
01:24:29,597 --> 01:24:33,935
$6800, AND THAT IS THE ACTION WE

2514
01:24:33,935 --> 01:24:35,136
ARE HOPING TO TAKE. THANK YOU. 

2515
01:24:35,136 --> 01:24:38,006
>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO, 

2516
01:24:38,006 --> 01:24:46,514
WITH THAT, THAT IS THE COUNCIL 

2517
01:24:46,514 --> 01:24:47,482
BILL 121204. SO, WITH THAT, ARE 

2518
01:24:47,482 --> 01:24:48,683
THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I AM 

2519
01:24:48,683 --> 01:24:50,885
GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE -- I 

2520
01:24:50,885 --> 01:24:54,589
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE 

2521
01:24:54,589 --> 01:24:55,590
RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF COUNCIL 

2522
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:56,825
BILL 121204, IS THERE A SECOND? 

2523
01:24:56,958 --> 01:24:57,225
>> SECOND. 

2524
01:24:57,225 --> 01:25:03,698
>> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED 

2525
01:25:03,698 --> 01:25:04,365
AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND 

2526
01:25:04,365 --> 01:25:05,600
PASSAGE OF THE BILL. ANY FURTHER

2527
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:06,568
COMMENTS? NOT SEEING ANY. WILL 

2528
01:25:06,568 --> 01:25:08,136
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? 

2529
01:25:08,136 --> 01:25:10,839
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

2530
01:25:10,839 --> 01:25:11,339
>> AYE. 

2531
01:25:11,339 --> 01:25:11,906
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

2532
01:25:11,906 --> 01:25:12,273
>> AYE. 

2533
01:25:12,273 --> 01:25:12,874
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? 

2534
01:25:12,874 --> 01:25:13,842
>> AYE. 

2535
01:25:13,842 --> 01:25:19,814
>> VICE CHAIR KETTLE? 

2536
01:25:19,814 --> 01:25:20,415
>> AYE. 

2537
01:25:20,415 --> 01:25:20,882
>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

2538
01:25:20,882 --> 01:25:21,316
>> AYE. 

2539
01:25:21,316 --> 01:25:22,617
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE IN 

2540
01:25:22,617 --> 01:25:23,585
FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. 

2541
01:25:23,585 --> 01:25:24,552
>> THE BILL CARRIES, 121204 WILL

2542
01:25:24,552 --> 01:25:26,020
BE SENT TO THE JUNE 2nd, 2026 

2543
01:25:26,020 --> 01:25:30,925
FULL COUNCIL MEETING. ALL RIGHT,

2544
01:25:30,925 --> 01:25:32,193
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SECOND 

2545
01:25:32,193 --> 01:25:33,595
PIECE, HERE. I NOW MOVE THAT THE

2546
01:25:33,595 --> 01:25:34,362
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 

2547
01:25:34,362 --> 01:25:36,464
COUNCIL BILL 121205, AND THAT IS

2548
01:25:36,464 --> 01:25:42,170
THE KING COUNTY EASEMENT FOR 

2549
01:25:42,170 --> 01:25:42,971
FAIR MARKET VALUE OF $500, 

2550
01:25:42,971 --> 01:25:48,276
RIGHT? OKAY, ALL RIGHT. CAN I 

2551
01:25:48,276 --> 01:25:49,544
GET A SECOND ON THAT ONE? 

2552
01:25:49,544 --> 01:25:49,944
>> SECOND. 

2553
01:25:49,944 --> 01:25:51,613
>> ALL RIGHT, I GOT A FIRST, I 

2554
01:25:51,613 --> 01:25:59,154
MOVED IT, IT GOT SECOND -- 

2555
01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:00,355
>> I AM YOUR SECOND TODAY. 

2556
01:26:00,355 --> 01:26:01,856
>> WELL, YOU ARE MY VICE CHAIR, 

2557
01:26:01,856 --> 01:26:03,158
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT HAS 

2558
01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:04,292
BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR 

2559
01:26:04,292 --> 01:26:05,593
PASSAGE OF THE BILL, AND AFTER 

2560
01:26:05,593 --> 01:26:06,461
THAT, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE 

2561
01:26:06,461 --> 01:26:06,728
ROLE? 

2562
01:26:06,728 --> 01:26:07,662
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

2563
01:26:07,662 --> 01:26:08,530
>> ABSTAIN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. 

2564
01:26:08,530 --> 01:26:08,796
ABSTAIN. 

2565
01:26:08,796 --> 01:26:09,330
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

2566
01:26:09,330 --> 01:26:10,164
>> AYE. 

2567
01:26:10,164 --> 01:26:11,799
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? 

2568
01:26:11,799 --> 01:26:13,167
>> AYE. 

2569
01:26:13,167 --> 01:26:22,310
>> VICE CHAIR KETTLE? 

2570
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:22,677
>> AYE. 

2571
01:26:22,677 --> 01:26:23,411
>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

2572
01:26:23,411 --> 01:26:23,711
>> AYE. 

2573
01:26:23,711 --> 01:26:25,013
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FOUR VOTES 

2574
01:26:25,013 --> 01:26:25,947
IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, ONE 

2575
01:26:25,947 --> 01:26:26,247
ABSTENTION. 

2576
01:26:26,247 --> 01:26:27,382
>> THE BILL CARRIES, COUNCIL 

2577
01:26:27,382 --> 01:26:30,218
BILL 121205 WILL BE SENT TO THE 

2578
01:26:30,218 --> 01:26:32,720
JUNE 2nd CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 

2579
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:39,761
ALL RIGHT, SO, LET'S MOVE ON TO

2580
01:26:39,761 --> 01:26:41,596
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WE HAVE 

2581
01:26:41,596 --> 01:26:42,430
TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, 

2582
01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:43,865
WITH THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE 

2583
01:26:43,865 --> 01:26:44,499
TITLE INTO THE RECORD? 

2584
01:26:44,499 --> 01:26:45,366
>> AGENDA ITEM FOUR, COUNCIL 

2585
01:26:45,366 --> 01:26:47,936
BILL 121211 -- AN ORDINANCE 

2586
01:26:47,936 --> 01:26:48,570
RELATING TO CURRENT USE TAXATION

2587
01:26:48,570 --> 01:26:49,237
-- APPROVING AN APPLICATION FOR 

2588
01:26:49,237 --> 01:26:49,804
CLASSIFICATION OF PROPERTY 

2589
01:26:49,804 --> 01:26:50,438
LOCATED AT 4807 SOUTHWEST 54th 

2590
01:26:50,438 --> 01:26:51,039
STREET UNDER THE KING COUNTY 

2591
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:55,610
PUBLIC BENEFIT RATING SYSTEM. 

2592
01:26:55,610 --> 01:26:57,145
THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING, 

2593
01:26:57,145 --> 01:26:58,313
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, AND 

2594
01:26:58,313 --> 01:27:00,248
POSSIBLE VOTE. 

2595
01:27:00,248 --> 01:27:01,783
>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE SOME NEW 

2596
01:27:01,783 --> 01:27:02,951
PRESENTERS AT THE TABLE, WE HAVE

2597
01:27:02,951 --> 01:27:10,024
OUR OWN KARINA FROM CENTRAL 

2598
01:27:10,024 --> 01:27:11,359
STUFF -- IS IT JUST YOU, KARINA?

2599
01:27:11,492 --> 01:27:12,594
>> THERE ARE TWO PRESENTERS -- 

2600
01:27:12,594 --> 01:27:13,595
>> THAT ARE ATTENDING REMOTELY? 

2601
01:27:13,728 --> 01:27:18,499
>> OH, DO I SEE THEM, YET? OH. 

2602
01:27:18,499 --> 01:27:20,034
ARE THEY -- OH, HERE WE GO. 

2603
01:27:20,034 --> 01:27:21,936
THERE IS BILL. THANK YOU, GUYS. 

2604
01:27:21,936 --> 01:27:26,975
AND WHO ELSE DO WE GOT? 

2605
01:27:26,975 --> 01:27:35,149
>> ERIC TODDERUD. 

2606
01:27:35,149 --> 01:27:39,354
>> I JUST SEE BILL ON THERE. 

2607
01:27:39,354 --> 01:27:49,897
>> OH, I THINK HE JUST JOINED. 

2608
01:27:52,567 --> 01:27:54,002
>> OKAY, SO, DID YOU ALREADY 

2609
01:27:54,002 --> 01:27:54,636
READ IT INTO THE RECORD? OKAY, 

2610
01:27:54,636 --> 01:27:56,838
SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY, THANK 

2611
01:27:56,838 --> 01:27:57,872
YOU. AS PRESIDING OFFICER, I AM 

2612
01:27:57,872 --> 01:27:58,973
NOW OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING 

2613
01:27:58,973 --> 01:27:59,641
ON COUNCIL BILL 121211.  CLERK, 

2614
01:27:59,641 --> 01:28:00,441
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED 

2615
01:28:00,441 --> 01:28:00,608
UP? 

2616
01:28:00,608 --> 01:28:02,110
>> THERE IS ONE REMOTE SPEAKER. 

2617
01:28:02,110 --> 01:28:04,245
AND ZERO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. 

2618
01:28:04,245 --> 01:28:11,519
>> OKAY, CAN YOU PLEASE -- IS 

2619
01:28:11,519 --> 01:28:12,253
OUR REMOTE SPEAKER ONLINE? 

2620
01:28:12,253 --> 01:28:13,454
>> DAVID, IF YOU ARE ONLINE? 

2621
01:28:13,454 --> 01:28:20,695
>> DAVID? STAR SIX. I DO NOT SEE

2622
01:28:20,695 --> 01:28:23,364
DAVID ONLINE. DO YOU? OKAY. SO, 

2623
01:28:23,364 --> 01:28:28,703
WITH THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE

2624
01:28:28,703 --> 01:28:30,305
IN CHAMBERS. WE HAD A SPEAKER, 

2625
01:28:30,305 --> 01:28:31,706
BUT I DON'T SEE IT ONLINE, OUR 

2626
01:28:31,706 --> 01:28:34,108
SPEAKER ONLINE, SO WITH THAT, 

2627
01:28:34,108 --> 01:28:35,476
THERE ARE NO MEMBERS OF THE 

2628
01:28:35,476 --> 01:28:36,344
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR THIS PUBLIC 

2629
01:28:36,344 --> 01:28:37,345
HEARING ON COUNCIL BILL 121211, 

2630
01:28:37,345 --> 01:28:38,980
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW 

2631
01:28:38,980 --> 01:28:42,283
CLOSED. SO, WE WILL NOW MOVE 

2632
01:28:42,283 --> 01:28:50,291
FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO 

2633
01:28:50,291 --> 01:28:51,159
INTRODUCE OUR PRESENTER, SO 

2634
01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:52,727
AFTER THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND 

2635
01:28:52,727 --> 01:28:53,528
LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND 

2636
01:28:53,528 --> 01:28:54,796
WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON THIS 

2637
01:28:54,796 --> 01:28:55,763
PARTICULAR BILL. FLOOR IS YOURS.

2638
01:28:55,763 --> 01:28:55,997
KARINA? 

2639
01:28:55,997 --> 01:28:57,265
>> IT AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE 

2640
01:28:57,265 --> 01:29:00,535
MEMBERS, KARINA BULL WITH 

2641
01:29:00,535 --> 01:29:07,775
CENTRAL STAFF AND THERE ARE TWO 

2642
01:29:07,775 --> 01:29:09,110
OTHER MEMBERS JOINING REMOTELY 

2643
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:10,311
-- YOU MIGHT WANT TO INTRODUCE 

2644
01:29:10,311 --> 01:29:11,112
THEMSELVES, IF THEY ARE ONLINE 

2645
01:29:11,112 --> 01:29:11,479
RIGHT NOW. 

2646
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,448
>> HI, I AM BILL BERNSTEIN WITH 

2647
01:29:13,448 --> 01:29:14,415
THE KING COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF 

2648
01:29:14,415 --> 01:29:15,416
NATURAL RESOURCES AND PARKS AND 

2649
01:29:15,416 --> 01:29:16,651
I ADMINISTER THE PUBLIC BENEFIT 

2650
01:29:16,651 --> 01:29:18,252
RATING SYSTEM FOR THE OPEN SPACE

2651
01:29:18,252 --> 01:29:21,789
PROGRAM. 

2652
01:29:21,789 --> 01:29:28,629
>> AND IS ERIC WITH US? 

2653
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:31,699
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WILL 

2654
01:29:31,699 --> 01:29:33,067
LAUNCH IN, AND HE MIGHT JOIN IN 

2655
01:29:33,067 --> 01:29:34,068
LATER, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 

2656
01:29:34,068 --> 01:29:34,736
TODAY'S PRESENTATION CONCERNS 

2657
01:29:34,736 --> 01:29:39,340
COUNCIL BILL 121211, WHICH WOULD

2658
01:29:39,340 --> 01:29:40,341
APPROVE AN APPLICATION FOR THE 

2659
01:29:40,341 --> 01:29:41,743
CURRENT USE TAXATION PROGRAM FOR

2660
01:29:41,743 --> 01:29:42,777
A 5700 SQUARE-FOOT PROPERTY, 

2661
01:29:42,777 --> 01:29:53,321
KNOWN AS THE MYERS PEA PATCH IN 

2662
01:29:55,690 --> 01:29:56,824
SOUTH SEATTLE, IT IS OWNED BY 

2663
01:29:56,824 --> 01:29:57,458
G.R.O.W., A NONPROFIT 

2664
01:29:57,458 --> 01:29:58,192
ORGANIZATION FOUNDED OVER 50 

2665
01:29:58,192 --> 01:29:59,127
YEARS AGO THAT CREATES COMMUNITY

2666
01:29:59,127 --> 01:29:59,727
GARDENING OPPORTUNITIES AND 

2667
01:29:59,727 --> 01:30:06,534
SUPPORTS THE CITY'S PPATCH 

2668
01:30:06,534 --> 01:30:07,135
PROGRAM, G.R.O.W. OPERATES 

2669
01:30:07,135 --> 01:30:08,102
PPATCH EIGHT OF THEM THROUGHOUT 

2670
01:30:08,102 --> 01:30:08,970
SEATTLE. IT PROVIDES AN 

2671
01:30:08,970 --> 01:30:10,671
INCENTIVE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO

2672
01:30:10,671 --> 01:30:16,611
VOLUNTARILY MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE,

2673
01:30:16,611 --> 01:30:17,612
BY TAXING THE PROPERTY AT A 

2674
01:30:17,612 --> 01:30:18,880
LOWER RATE, BASED ON ITS CURRENT

2675
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,181
USE, RATHER THAN THE POTENTIAL 

2676
01:30:20,181 --> 01:30:21,416
MARKET VALUE FOR ITS MOST 

2677
01:30:21,416 --> 01:30:23,718
PROFITABLE USE. SUCH AS, 

2678
01:30:23,718 --> 01:30:24,385
RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL 

2679
01:30:24,385 --> 01:30:25,186
PURPOSES. IN RECENT YEARS, 

2680
01:30:25,186 --> 01:30:26,087
PROPERTIES IN SEATTLE APPROVED 

2681
01:30:26,087 --> 01:30:30,291
FOR THE SEARCH AND TAX PROGRAM 

2682
01:30:30,291 --> 01:30:31,159
INCLUDING NORTH OF PAGODA 

2683
01:30:31,159 --> 01:30:32,527
GARDENS OWNED BY INDIGENOUS 

2684
01:30:32,527 --> 01:30:34,695
CREATIVE'S COLLECTIVE, THAT WAS

2685
01:30:34,695 --> 01:30:36,130
LAST YEAR'S APPLICATION, THE 

2686
01:30:36,130 --> 01:30:37,064
OPEN SPACE SURROUNDING ANNE HOLT

2687
01:30:37,064 --> 01:30:39,667
HALL, SURROUNDING THE U DISTRICT

2688
01:30:39,667 --> 01:30:45,406
AND OTHER P-PATCHES OWNED BY 

2689
01:30:45,406 --> 01:30:46,374
G.R.O.W. SUCH AS THOSE IN HAZEL 

2690
01:30:46,374 --> 01:30:47,275
HEIGHTS AND JUDKINS THAT WERE 

2691
01:30:47,275 --> 01:30:48,943
ALL APPROVED IN THE LAST FEW 

2692
01:30:48,943 --> 01:30:52,413
YEARS. EVALUATED UNDER A PUBLIC 

2693
01:30:52,413 --> 01:30:58,553
BENEFITS RATING SYSTEM, KNOWN AS

2694
01:30:58,553 --> 01:31:00,221
PBRS, IT IS ADMINISTERED BY THE 

2695
01:31:00,221 --> 01:31:01,322
KING COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF 

2696
01:31:01,322 --> 01:31:02,957
NATURAL RESOURCES AND PARKS. MR.

2697
01:31:02,957 --> 01:31:10,598
BERNSTEIN IS THE COORDINATOR OF 

2698
01:31:10,598 --> 01:31:11,299
THAT PROGRAM. PROPERTIES WITH 

2699
01:31:11,299 --> 01:31:12,099
HIGHER POINT TOTALS FOR 

2700
01:31:12,099 --> 01:31:12,733
AVAILABLE OPEN-SPACE RESOURCES 

2701
01:31:12,733 --> 01:31:13,501
RECEIVE LARGER REDUCTIONS ON 

2702
01:31:13,501 --> 01:31:14,268
PROPERTY TAXES. EXAMPLES OF 

2703
01:31:14,268 --> 01:31:14,902
OPEN-SPACE RESOURCES INCLUDE 

2704
01:31:14,902 --> 01:31:16,571
PUBLIC RECREATION AREAS, PUBLIC 

2705
01:31:16,571 --> 01:31:20,908
LANDS, VIEW CORRIDORS, AND THERE

2706
01:31:20,908 --> 01:31:27,648
ARE ALSO BONUS POINTS FOR 

2707
01:31:27,648 --> 01:31:28,382
CERTAIN CATEGORIES SUCH AS 

2708
01:31:28,382 --> 01:31:29,016
UNLIMITED PUBLIC ACCESS. AFTER 

2709
01:31:29,016 --> 01:31:30,518
KING COUNTY ISSUES A REPORT WITH

2710
01:31:30,518 --> 01:31:31,652
THE APPLICATIONS PBRS POINTS 

2711
01:31:31,652 --> 01:31:34,488
TOTAL, BOTH THE CITY AND KING 

2712
01:31:34,488 --> 01:31:35,990
COUNTY, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, 

2713
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:39,427
MUST BOTH HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING 

2714
01:31:39,427 --> 01:31:40,428
AND TAKE LEGISLATIVE ACTION TO 

2715
01:31:40,428 --> 01:31:41,529
APPROVE THE APPLICATION. 

2716
01:31:41,529 --> 01:31:48,736
APPROVAL RESULTS IN LOWER 

2717
01:31:48,736 --> 01:31:49,570
PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE PROPERTY 

2718
01:31:49,570 --> 01:31:50,805
OWNER AND SHIFTS THE TAX 

2719
01:31:50,805 --> 01:31:51,405
OBLIGATION TO OTHER PROPERTY 

2720
01:31:51,405 --> 01:31:52,473
OWNERS AT A MARGINAL RATE OF 

2721
01:31:52,473 --> 01:31:53,708
INCREASE, WITH NO IMPACT TO THE 

2722
01:31:53,708 --> 01:31:55,109
TOTAL TAX COLLECTION FOR THE 

2723
01:31:55,109 --> 01:31:59,447
CITY. THE APPLICATION THAT IS 

2724
01:31:59,447 --> 01:32:00,248
UNDER CONSIDERATION IS THE 

2725
01:32:00,248 --> 01:32:09,123
BUYERS BULLDOG GARDEN P-PATCH IN

2726
01:32:09,123 --> 01:32:10,424
WEST SEATTLE. THE GARDEN IS 

2727
01:32:10,424 --> 01:32:11,092
NAMED FOR THE BUYERS FAMILY WHO 

2728
01:32:11,092 --> 01:32:12,326
OWNED AND GARDENED ON IT AND 

2729
01:32:12,326 --> 01:32:13,761
DEVELOPED PROPERTY FOR MANY 

2730
01:32:13,761 --> 01:32:14,795
GENERATIONS. G.R.O.W. -- 

2731
01:32:14,795 --> 01:32:16,030
>> WHERE DID BULLDOG COME FROM? 

2732
01:32:16,163 --> 01:32:26,507
>> THEY HAD BULLDOGS. THE LAST 

2733
01:32:26,507 --> 01:32:27,675
OWNER, MARGARET BIER, AND HER 

2734
01:32:27,675 --> 01:32:28,776
SPOUSE, HAD A BULLDOG. THERE IS 

2735
01:32:28,776 --> 01:32:29,777
A PICTURE OF THEM HOLDING THE 

2736
01:32:29,777 --> 01:32:30,878
BULLDOG, ON THE P-PATCH PHOTO, 

2737
01:32:30,878 --> 01:32:31,946
AND THE DEPARTMENT NEIGHBORHOOD 

2738
01:32:31,946 --> 01:32:32,213
WEBSITE. 

2739
01:32:32,213 --> 01:32:33,481
>> OH, OKAY. 

2740
01:32:33,481 --> 01:32:34,482
>> G.R.O.W. ACQUIRED THIS 

2741
01:32:34,482 --> 01:32:36,083
PROPERTY IN 2024 FROM THE ESTATE

2742
01:32:36,083 --> 01:32:46,627
OF MARGARET BYERS WHO LEFT IT TO

2743
01:32:51,866 --> 01:32:53,200
HER ESTATE IN HER PASSING, 

2744
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:53,801
CURRENTLY USED AS A COMMUNITY 

2745
01:32:53,801 --> 01:32:54,402
GARDEN WITH GARDEN BEDS, AND 

2746
01:32:54,402 --> 01:32:55,369
PRODUCE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

2747
01:32:55,369 --> 01:32:56,837
MUCH OF IT IS DONATED TO LOCAL 

2748
01:32:56,837 --> 01:32:58,205
FOOD BANKS, AND IN THE FUTURE, 

2749
01:32:58,205 --> 01:32:58,906
G.R.O.W. PLANS TO INSTALL 

2750
01:32:58,906 --> 01:33:00,174
ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS AND ADD MORE

2751
01:33:00,174 --> 01:33:00,975
GARDEN BEDS. KING COUNTY 

2752
01:33:00,975 --> 01:33:02,209
ASSESSED THIS PROPERTY USING 

2753
01:33:02,209 --> 01:33:11,852
FEET PBRS CRITERIA AND ENDED UP 

2754
01:33:11,852 --> 01:33:13,187
RECOMMENDING A TOTAL OF 10 

2755
01:33:13,187 --> 01:33:13,754
POINTS FOR TWO CATEGORIES. 

2756
01:33:13,754 --> 01:33:14,622
PUBLIC RECREATION AREA, AND THE 

2757
01:33:14,622 --> 01:33:15,289
BONUS CATEGORY OF UNLIMITED 

2758
01:33:15,289 --> 01:33:16,357
PUBLIC ACCESS. THIS RATING WOULD

2759
01:33:16,357 --> 01:33:25,866
RESULT IN A 50% REDUCTION OF 

2760
01:33:25,866 --> 01:33:26,567
MARKET VALUE, AND A 

2761
01:33:26,567 --> 01:33:27,368
CORRESPONDING 50% REDUCTION IN 

2762
01:33:27,368 --> 01:33:28,636
TAXABLE VALUE. SO, TO PUT THIS 

2763
01:33:28,636 --> 01:33:29,604
IN CONTEXT USING THE 2025 

2764
01:33:29,604 --> 01:33:30,438
APPRAISED VALUES, THE PROPERTY 

2765
01:33:30,438 --> 01:33:40,948
WAS VALUED AT ABOUT $500,000, 

2766
01:33:41,849 --> 01:33:42,850
PROPERTY TAX AT ABOUT $5000. 

2767
01:33:42,850 --> 01:33:43,918
ENROLLMENT IN THIS PROGRAM WOULD

2768
01:33:43,918 --> 01:33:44,919
REDUCE THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE 

2769
01:33:44,919 --> 01:33:46,253
TO ABOUT $250,000, AND THE 

2770
01:33:46,253 --> 01:33:46,954
PROPERTY TAX AMOUNT TO ABOUT 

2771
01:33:46,954 --> 01:33:47,955
$2500. IF APPROVED FOR THE 

2772
01:33:47,955 --> 01:33:48,723
PROGRAM, THERE ARE CONTROLS, 

2773
01:33:48,723 --> 01:33:49,991
G.R.O.W. WOULD BE REQUIRED TO 

2774
01:33:49,991 --> 01:33:51,158
MAINTAIN THE OPEN SPACE IN THE 

2775
01:33:51,158 --> 01:33:52,426
SAME OR BETTER CONDITION AS OF 

2776
01:33:52,426 --> 01:33:53,427
THE DATE OF ENROLLMENT, AND 

2777
01:33:53,427 --> 01:33:54,228
SUBMIT REQUIRED MONITORING 

2778
01:33:54,228 --> 01:34:04,372
REPORTS. IF EVER DISQUALIFIED, 

2779
01:34:04,372 --> 01:34:05,339
G.R.O.W. WOULD BE REQUIRED TO 

2780
01:34:05,339 --> 01:34:06,407
PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 

2781
01:34:06,407 --> 01:34:07,475
AMOUNT OF TAX PAID AS OPEN 

2782
01:34:07,475 --> 01:34:08,676
SPACE, AND THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD

2783
01:34:08,676 --> 01:34:10,144
HAVE BEEN PAID FOR A MAXIMUM OF 

2784
01:34:10,144 --> 01:34:11,145
SEVEN YEARS, PLUS INTEREST, AND 

2785
01:34:11,145 --> 01:34:14,382
POSSIBLY A 20% PENALTY. 

2786
01:34:14,382 --> 01:34:16,017
>> OKAY, LET ME ASK YOU A QUICK 

2787
01:34:16,017 --> 01:34:17,018
QUESTION. SO, WHO WOULD BE 

2788
01:34:17,018 --> 01:34:18,285
MONITORING THIS? IS IT GOING TO 

2789
01:34:18,285 --> 01:34:20,054
BE THE CITY? OR, IS IT GOING TO 

2790
01:34:20,054 --> 01:34:21,255
BE BILL AT KING COUNTY? 

2791
01:34:21,255 --> 01:34:22,356
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT 

2792
01:34:22,356 --> 01:34:23,958
IS BILL AT KING COUNTY, CAN YOU 

2793
01:34:23,958 --> 01:34:24,291
CONFIRM THAT? 

2794
01:34:24,291 --> 01:34:29,463
>> YEAH, KING COUNTY STAFF WOULD

2795
01:34:29,463 --> 01:34:30,364
BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING 

2796
01:34:30,364 --> 01:34:30,931
THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION, 

2797
01:34:30,931 --> 01:34:31,732
MONITORING ANY COMPLIANT ISSUE, 

2798
01:34:31,732 --> 01:34:33,167
WE WOULD BE THE ONES MAINTAINING

2799
01:34:33,167 --> 01:34:34,535
REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH THE 

2800
01:34:34,535 --> 01:34:40,408
PROPERTY OWNER. 

2801
01:34:40,408 --> 01:34:41,375
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. 

2802
01:34:41,375 --> 01:34:42,043
>> PROCEDURALLY, FOR THIS 

2803
01:34:42,043 --> 01:34:42,743
OPERATION, IF THE COMMITTEE 

2804
01:34:42,743 --> 01:34:53,287
VOTES TO APPROVE IT, IT COULD BE

2805
01:34:59,460 --> 01:35:00,594
CONSIDERED FOR A COUNCIL VOTE AS

2806
01:35:00,594 --> 01:35:01,829
SOON AS JUNE 2nd. THE KING 

2807
01:35:01,829 --> 01:35:02,563
COUNTY HEARING EXAMINER IS 

2808
01:35:02,563 --> 01:35:03,564
SCHEDULED TO HOLD A PUBLIC 

2809
01:35:03,564 --> 01:35:04,999
HEARING ON MAY 28th. IF THE KING

2810
01:35:04,999 --> 01:35:05,599
COUNTY HEARING EXAMINER 

2811
01:35:05,599 --> 01:35:06,467
RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE 

2812
01:35:06,467 --> 01:35:07,268
APPLICATION, THE COUNTY COUNCIL 

2813
01:35:07,268 --> 01:35:08,335
WOULD VOTE ON IT SOON 

2814
01:35:08,335 --> 01:35:09,570
THEREAFTER, AND IF BOTH THE CITY

2815
01:35:09,570 --> 01:35:10,604
COUNCIL AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL 

2816
01:35:10,604 --> 01:35:11,806
BOTH APPROVE THE APPLICATION IN 

2817
01:35:11,806 --> 01:35:12,606
WHOLE, KING COUNTY WOULD 

2818
01:35:12,606 --> 01:35:13,407
INCORPORATE THE LOWER TAXABLE 

2819
01:35:13,407 --> 01:35:14,675
VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IN ITS 

2820
01:35:14,675 --> 01:35:15,776
2027 TAX RULES. AND THAT 

2821
01:35:15,776 --> 01:35:16,444
CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. 

2822
01:35:16,444 --> 01:35:17,545
>> SO, WE ARE BASICALLY LOWERING

2823
01:35:17,545 --> 01:35:19,346
THE TAX IMPACT BY 50%, SO IT CAN

2824
01:35:19,346 --> 01:35:19,847
BE A P-PATCH? 

2825
01:35:19,847 --> 01:35:21,382
>> CORRECT. AND SO THAT IT WOULD

2826
01:35:21,382 --> 01:35:26,087
BE A AN OPEN SPACE IN PERPETUITY

2827
01:35:26,087 --> 01:35:27,721
AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 

2828
01:35:27,721 --> 01:35:38,265
>> OPEN-SPACE. SO, FIRST OF ALL,

2829
01:35:38,833 --> 01:35:40,000
LET ME JUST SAY A FEW THINGS 

2830
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,435
BEFORE I HAND IT OFF TO MY 

2831
01:35:41,435 --> 01:35:42,236
COLLEAGUES. KARINA, THANK YOU 

2832
01:35:42,236 --> 01:35:43,070
FOR YOUR MEMORANDUM. APPRECIATE 

2833
01:35:43,070 --> 01:35:44,705
THAT. WE ALSO GOT A COPY OF THE 

2834
01:35:44,705 --> 01:35:45,506
COORDINATION AGREEMENT, SO THANK

2835
01:35:45,506 --> 01:35:46,941
YOU FOR THAT. ARE THERE OTHER --

2836
01:35:46,941 --> 01:35:47,775
AND, OF COURSE, WONDERFUL 

2837
01:35:47,775 --> 01:35:48,776
POWERPOINT WITH PAGE NUMBERS, SO

2838
01:35:48,776 --> 01:35:50,010
THANK YOU FOR THAT. ARE THERE 

2839
01:35:50,010 --> 01:35:51,512
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES,

2840
01:35:51,512 --> 01:36:02,056
REGARDING COUNCIL BILL 121211? 

2841
01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:11,432
OKAY. NOT SEEING ANY. NOW -- OH,

2842
01:36:11,432 --> 01:36:12,600
WAIT. I HAVE TO MOVE TO SUSPEND.

2843
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,001
SO, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, 

2844
01:36:14,001 --> 01:36:14,902
COUNCIL RULES WILL BE SUSPENDED 

2845
01:36:14,902 --> 01:36:16,103
TO ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE 

2846
01:36:16,103 --> 01:36:17,872
ON THE LEGISLATION ON THE SAME 

2847
01:36:17,872 --> 01:36:19,974
DAY THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD.

2848
01:36:19,974 --> 01:36:20,941
NOT HEARING OR SEEING AN 

2849
01:36:20,941 --> 01:36:21,775
OBJECTION. COUNCIL RULE IS 

2850
01:36:21,775 --> 01:36:22,643
SUSPENDED. THE COMMITTEE -- 

2851
01:36:22,643 --> 01:36:23,911
EXCUSE ME -- WILL PROCEED WITH 

2852
01:36:23,911 --> 01:36:29,817
VOTING ON COUNCIL BILL 121211. I

2853
01:36:29,817 --> 01:36:30,451
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE 

2854
01:36:30,451 --> 01:36:31,252
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNCIL 

2855
01:36:31,252 --> 01:36:32,686
BILL 121211. IS THERE A SECOND? 

2856
01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:33,087
>> SECOND. 

2857
01:36:33,087 --> 01:36:33,387
>> SECOND. 

2858
01:36:33,387 --> 01:36:36,423
>> THANK YOU. HAVE A SECOND. IT 

2859
01:36:36,423 --> 01:36:37,458
HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. 

2860
01:36:37,458 --> 01:36:38,459
CLARK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? 

2861
01:36:38,459 --> 01:36:45,032
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

2862
01:36:45,032 --> 01:36:45,933
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, RAISE 

2863
01:36:45,933 --> 01:36:46,967
YOUR HAND, YES OR NO? 

2864
01:36:46,967 --> 01:36:51,639
>> AYE. SORRY. 

2865
01:36:51,639 --> 01:36:52,139
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

2866
01:36:52,139 --> 01:36:52,406
>> AYE. 

2867
01:36:52,406 --> 01:36:52,940
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? 

2868
01:36:52,940 --> 01:36:53,807
>> AYE. 

2869
01:36:53,807 --> 01:36:56,110
>> VICE CHAIR KETTLE? 

2870
01:36:56,110 --> 01:36:56,477
>> AYE. 

2871
01:36:56,477 --> 01:36:57,778
>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

2872
01:36:57,778 --> 01:37:00,548
>> AYE. 

2873
01:37:00,548 --> 01:37:01,849
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE IN 

2874
01:37:01,849 --> 01:37:02,883
FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. 

2875
01:37:02,883 --> 01:37:04,018
>> THE BILL CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY,

2876
01:37:04,018 --> 01:37:05,319
COUNCIL BILL 121211 WILL BE SENT

2877
01:37:05,319 --> 01:37:07,421
TO THE JUNE 2nd FULL COUNCIL 

2878
01:37:07,421 --> 01:37:11,959
MEETING. WITH THAT, WE WILL GO 

2879
01:37:11,959 --> 01:37:13,227
INTO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WILL THE 

2880
01:37:13,227 --> 01:37:14,528
CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER 

2881
01:37:14,528 --> 01:37:15,062
FIVE INTO THE RECORD? 

2882
01:37:15,062 --> 01:37:16,096
>> AGENDA ITEM FIVE, COUNCIL 

2883
01:37:16,096 --> 01:37:20,935
BILL 121212 -- AN ORDINANCE 

2884
01:37:20,935 --> 01:37:21,535
RELATING TO SEATTLE PARKS AND 

2885
01:37:21,535 --> 01:37:22,136
RECREATION -- AUTHORIZING THE 

2886
01:37:22,136 --> 01:37:23,938
SUPERINTENDENT TO ENTER INTO A 

2887
01:37:23,938 --> 01:37:24,572
TEN-YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE 

2888
01:37:24,572 --> 01:37:25,105
MADISON PARK COOPERATIVE 

2889
01:37:25,105 --> 01:37:25,773
PRESCHOOL TO OPERATE AND PROVIDE

2890
01:37:25,773 --> 01:37:27,007
MANAGEMENT OF THE MADISON BEACH 

2891
01:37:27,007 --> 01:37:37,518
PARK BATHHOUSE. THERE WILL BE 

2892
01:37:41,555 --> 01:37:42,189
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, AND A 

2893
01:37:42,189 --> 01:37:42,556
POSSIBLE VOTE. 

2894
01:37:42,556 --> 01:37:43,924
>> OKAY, SO, WE HAVE THE MADISON

2895
01:37:43,924 --> 01:37:44,792
PARK COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL FOLKS

2896
01:37:44,792 --> 01:37:45,693
IN OUR PUBLIC RECREATION FOLKS 

2897
01:37:45,693 --> 01:37:46,961
HERE, I WILL LET YOU ALL 

2898
01:37:46,961 --> 01:37:48,362
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AGAIN FOR 

2899
01:37:48,362 --> 01:37:55,369
THE RECORD. CLERKS ALREADY 

2900
01:37:55,369 --> 01:37:56,604
INTRODUCED IT, BUT GO AHEAD AND 

2901
01:37:56,604 --> 01:37:57,371
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, AND WE 

2902
01:37:57,371 --> 01:37:58,839
WILL GO THERE -- OR, I SHOULD 

2903
01:37:58,839 --> 01:37:59,974
SAY, WE HAD YOUR POWERPOINT WITH

2904
01:37:59,974 --> 01:38:01,242
US IN OUR SUMMARY AND FISCAL 

2905
01:38:01,242 --> 01:38:01,976
NOTE, SO GO AHEAD. 

2906
01:38:01,976 --> 01:38:03,210
>> THANK YOU FOR THE TECH 

2907
01:38:03,210 --> 01:38:04,245
SUPPORT. I AM MICHELE FINNEGAN, 

2908
01:38:04,245 --> 01:38:05,145
SUPERINTENDENT WITH THE SEATTLE 

2909
01:38:05,145 --> 01:38:05,880
PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

2910
01:38:06,013 --> 01:38:06,914
>> I AM KATHLEEN GANTZ. 

2911
01:38:06,914 --> 01:38:08,315
>> KARINA BULL ESSENTIAL STAFF. 

2912
01:38:08,315 --> 01:38:09,783
>> ALL RIGHT. 

2913
01:38:09,783 --> 01:38:20,327
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 

2914
01:38:25,499 --> 01:38:26,467
TODAY, WE WILL BE PRESENTING TWO

2915
01:38:26,467 --> 01:38:27,001
PIECES OF LEGISLATION FOR 

2916
01:38:27,001 --> 01:38:27,668
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOLS OPERATING

2917
01:38:27,668 --> 01:38:28,535
AT SEATTLE PARKS AND RECREATION 

2918
01:38:28,535 --> 01:38:29,436
FACILITIES FOR THE TWO 

2919
01:38:29,436 --> 01:38:30,471
FACILITIES WE WILL BE TALKING 

2920
01:38:30,471 --> 01:38:31,639
ABOUT TODAY ARE LESS THAN 2500 

2921
01:38:31,639 --> 01:38:33,474
SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS, WHICH 

2922
01:38:33,474 --> 01:38:34,708
KATHLEEN WILL GIVE A LITTLE BIT 

2923
01:38:34,708 --> 01:38:35,542
OF HISTORY ABOUT, MOMENTARILY. 

2924
01:38:35,542 --> 01:38:36,610
AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS, 

2925
01:38:36,610 --> 01:38:37,177
SOMETIMES, THESE SMALLER 

2926
01:38:37,177 --> 01:38:38,245
FACILITIES ARE HARDER FOR 

2927
01:38:38,245 --> 01:38:39,246
SEATTLE PARKS AND RECREATION TO 

2928
01:38:39,246 --> 01:38:41,482
ACTIVATE, CONSISTENTLY. AND WE 

2929
01:38:41,482 --> 01:38:43,450
ALSO HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF 

2930
01:38:43,450 --> 01:38:51,258
PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THESE 

2931
01:38:51,258 --> 01:38:52,026
FACILITIES OVER THE RECENT 

2932
01:38:52,026 --> 01:38:53,160
YEARS. I AM PLEASED TO SHARE, 

2933
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:54,361
HOWEVER, THAT AS YOU HEAR MORE 

2934
01:38:54,361 --> 01:38:55,162
ABOUT TODAY, THESE TWO 

2935
01:38:55,162 --> 01:38:56,397
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOLS HAVE BEEN

2936
01:38:56,397 --> 01:39:02,670
OPERATING CONSISTENTLY IN THESE 

2937
01:39:02,670 --> 01:39:03,604
FACILITIES FOR MANY YEARS. THESE

2938
01:39:03,604 --> 01:39:04,271
ORGANIZATIONS POSITIVELY IMPACT 

2939
01:39:04,271 --> 01:39:05,306
THE FACILITIES, AND ALSO PROVIDE

2940
01:39:05,306 --> 01:39:06,440
OUR EYES ON THE PARK, RAISING 

2941
01:39:06,440 --> 01:39:07,808
POTENTIAL ISSUES TO KATHLEEN'S 

2942
01:39:07,808 --> 01:39:15,082
TEAM, WHICH ARE PUBLIC BENEFITS 

2943
01:39:15,082 --> 01:39:15,783
BEYOND WHAT YOU WILL ENUMERATE 

2944
01:39:15,783 --> 01:39:16,483
IN THE PROPOSED CONTRACTS, 

2945
01:39:16,483 --> 01:39:17,484
MOMENTARILY. WITH THAT, I WILL 

2946
01:39:17,484 --> 01:39:18,752
TURN THIS OVER TO KATHLEEN TO 

2947
01:39:18,752 --> 01:39:19,987
WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS OF 

2948
01:39:19,987 --> 01:39:20,954
THE PROPOSED CONTRACT AT MADISON

2949
01:39:20,954 --> 01:39:22,456
PARK COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL AT 

2950
01:39:22,456 --> 01:39:28,162
MADISON BEACH. 

2951
01:39:28,162 --> 01:39:29,296
>> IT'S A TONGUE TWISTER. 

2952
01:39:29,296 --> 01:39:29,997
>> IT IS PAIRED 

2953
01:39:29,997 --> 01:39:31,432
>> I SHOULD ADD THAT WE HAVE 

2954
01:39:31,432 --> 01:39:32,599
YOUR 69 PAGE OPERATION AND USE 

2955
01:39:32,599 --> 01:39:33,967
CONTRACT WITH US, AS WELL, WITH 

2956
01:39:33,967 --> 01:39:34,868
YOUR POWERPOINT, SO THANK YOU 

2957
01:39:34,868 --> 01:39:45,245
FOR DISTILLING THIS, INTO THIS. 

2958
01:39:45,245 --> 01:39:45,846
I APPRECIATE THAT. 

2959
01:39:45,846 --> 01:39:46,413
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. 

2960
01:39:46,413 --> 01:39:47,715
>> THEY GOT MUCH LONGER WHEN 

2961
01:39:47,715 --> 01:39:48,649
THEY HAD TO BE DOUBLESPACED. 

2962
01:39:48,649 --> 01:39:49,817
>> WELL, I APPRECIATE IT, SO 

2963
01:39:49,817 --> 01:39:50,250
THANK YOU. 

2964
01:39:50,250 --> 01:39:50,651
>> ABSOLUTELY. 

2965
01:39:50,651 --> 01:39:51,352
>> GO AHEAD. 

2966
01:39:51,352 --> 01:39:52,286
>> THE PURPOSE OF THIS 

2967
01:39:52,286 --> 01:39:53,287
LEGISLATION, AS MICHELE SAID, IS

2968
01:39:53,287 --> 01:39:54,355
TO EXECUTE A NEW CONTRACT 

2969
01:39:54,355 --> 01:39:55,155
BETWEEN MADISON PARK COOPERATIVE

2970
01:39:55,155 --> 01:39:56,390
PRESCHOOL AND THE CITY OF 

2971
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:57,224
SEATTLE BETWEEN SEATTLE PARKS 

2972
01:39:57,224 --> 01:39:58,225
AND RECREATION. MADISON PARK 

2973
01:39:58,225 --> 01:39:59,159
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL PROVIDES 

2974
01:39:59,159 --> 01:39:59,860
EARLY EDUCATION PROGRAMS AS WELL

2975
01:39:59,860 --> 01:40:00,494
AS COMMUNITY-BASED ACTIVITIES 

2976
01:40:00,494 --> 01:40:01,362
FOR THE MADISON PARK 

2977
01:40:01,362 --> 01:40:02,229
NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THIS 

2978
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:03,097
PRESENTATION, I WILL WALK YOU 

2979
01:40:03,097 --> 01:40:04,765
THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THIS 

2980
01:40:04,765 --> 01:40:08,102
CONTRACT. SO, THE PRIMARY GOAL 

2981
01:40:08,102 --> 01:40:09,069
OF THIS CONTRACT IS TO ENSURE 

2982
01:40:09,069 --> 01:40:10,003
THAT THE PRESCHOOL PROVIDES 

2983
01:40:10,003 --> 01:40:10,704
ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE EARLY 

2984
01:40:10,704 --> 01:40:11,538
CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS TO THE 

2985
01:40:11,538 --> 01:40:12,373
GREATER SEATTLE COMMUNITY. THEIR

2986
01:40:12,373 --> 01:40:13,741
PROGRAMS SERVE CHILDREN THROUGH 

2987
01:40:13,741 --> 01:40:24,284
INFANCY, TO 5 YEARS OF AGE AND 

2988
01:40:24,818 --> 01:40:25,686
HAVE PRESCHOOL CLASSES, PARENT 

2989
01:40:25,686 --> 01:40:26,286
EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES, AND 

2990
01:40:26,286 --> 01:40:26,920
COMMUNITY EVENTS. IN ADDITION, 

2991
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:27,688
THE PRESCHOOL PLAYS AN IMPORTANT

2992
01:40:27,688 --> 01:40:28,756
ROLE IN PLAYING AND MAINTAINING 

2993
01:40:28,756 --> 01:40:29,823
THE BATHHOUSE FACILITY, AND THE 

2994
01:40:29,823 --> 01:40:30,557
SURROUNDING PARK. THEIR PROGRAMS

2995
01:40:30,557 --> 01:40:31,592
HELP SUPPORT THE BROADER MISSION

2996
01:40:31,592 --> 01:40:33,193
AND VALUES OF SEATTLE PARKS AND 

2997
01:40:33,193 --> 01:40:43,604
RECREATION. THE MADISON PARK 

2998
01:40:43,604 --> 01:40:45,005
BATHHOUSE OPENED IN 1938 AND IS 

2999
01:40:45,005 --> 01:40:45,973
A UNIQUE EXAMPLE OF EARLY, WOOD 

3000
01:40:45,973 --> 01:40:46,840
FRAMED PUBLIC FACILITIES IN 

3001
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:47,708
SEATTLE. THE PRESCHOOL HAS A 

3002
01:40:47,708 --> 01:40:48,709
LONG AND MEANINGFUL HISTORY TIED

3003
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:53,781
TO THE MADISON BE -- BEACH PARK 

3004
01:40:53,781 --> 01:40:55,215
BATHHOUSE, THIS STARTED IN 1970 

3005
01:40:55,215 --> 01:40:56,050
AS A SMALL BABYSITTING 

3006
01:40:56,050 --> 01:40:57,418
COOPERATIVE AND LATER EXPANDED. 

3007
01:40:57,418 --> 01:41:03,257
BY 1986, FORMAL PRESCHOOL 

3008
01:41:03,257 --> 01:41:04,191
OPERATIONS WERE ESTABLISHED IN 

3009
01:41:04,191 --> 01:41:04,958
THE BUILDING. SINCE THEN, THEY 

3010
01:41:04,958 --> 01:41:06,260
HAVE REMAINED A CONSISTENT 

3011
01:41:06,260 --> 01:41:06,927
PRESENCE, CONTRIBUTING NOT ONLY 

3012
01:41:06,927 --> 01:41:09,296
TO EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY 

3013
01:41:09,296 --> 01:41:10,297
EVENTS, BUT ALSO TO THE 

3014
01:41:10,297 --> 01:41:11,331
PRESERVATION AND USE OF THIS 

3015
01:41:11,331 --> 01:41:12,132
HISTORIC SPACE. THE PUBLIC 

3016
01:41:12,132 --> 01:41:15,035
PROCESS FOR THIS NEW CONTRACT 

3017
01:41:15,035 --> 01:41:16,403
BEGAN IN 2024, WHEN A LETTER OF 

3018
01:41:16,403 --> 01:41:18,005
INTEREST WAS PUBLISHED FOR THE 

3019
01:41:18,005 --> 01:41:21,041
COMMUNITY. SPR RECEIVED ONLY ONE

3020
01:41:21,041 --> 01:41:21,975
RESPONSE FROM MADISON 

3021
01:41:21,975 --> 01:41:29,149
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL. SEATTLE 

3022
01:41:29,149 --> 01:41:29,716
PARKS AND RECREATION THEN 

3023
01:41:29,716 --> 01:41:30,918
AWARDED THE NEW CONTRACT TO THE 

3024
01:41:30,918 --> 01:41:31,718
PRESCHOOL AND BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS

3025
01:41:31,718 --> 01:41:32,786
IN THE SUMMER OF 2024. 

3026
01:41:32,786 --> 01:41:34,121
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, THE 

3027
01:41:34,121 --> 01:41:39,760
PRESCHOOL HAS CONTINUED OFFERING

3028
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:40,727
ITS PROGRAMS THROUGH ITS 

3029
01:41:40,727 --> 01:41:41,361
PREVIOUS CONTRACT. CURRENTLY, 

3030
01:41:41,361 --> 01:41:41,995
THEY ARE SERVING APPROXIMATELY 

3031
01:41:41,995 --> 01:41:43,530
130 CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN 

3032
01:41:43,530 --> 01:41:52,539
THEIR PROGRAMS. SO, THIS SLIDE 

3033
01:41:52,539 --> 01:41:53,740
HIGHLIGHTS THE KEY TERMS OF THE 

3034
01:41:53,740 --> 01:41:54,441
NEW CONTRACT. OVERALL, THE 

3035
01:41:54,441 --> 01:41:55,242
AGREEMENT FOCUSES ON THE 

3036
01:41:55,242 --> 01:41:56,410
PRESCHOOL ROLE AS THE OPERATOR 

3037
01:41:56,410 --> 01:41:57,177
OF THE BATHHOUSE, PROVIDING 

3038
01:41:57,177 --> 01:41:58,479
EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS AND 

3039
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,314
FAMILY EVENTS. IT ALSO 

3040
01:42:00,314 --> 01:42:00,981
REINFORCES EXPECTATIONS AROUND 

3041
01:42:00,981 --> 01:42:01,615
PROGRAM DELIVERY, FACILITY 

3042
01:42:01,615 --> 01:42:02,749
UPKEEP, AND ALIGNMENT WITH CITY 

3043
01:42:02,749 --> 01:42:03,550
GOALS. PRESCHOOL WILL BE 

3044
01:42:03,550 --> 01:42:05,819
RESPONSIBLE FOR MINOR CUSTODIAL 

3045
01:42:05,819 --> 01:42:12,025
MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY, 

3046
01:42:12,025 --> 01:42:13,427
WELL SPR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

3047
01:42:13,427 --> 01:42:14,428
MOST MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDING

3048
01:42:14,428 --> 01:42:23,070
AND ALL MAJOR SYSTEMS. LABS. THE

3049
01:42:23,070 --> 01:42:23,871
NEW CONTRACT OUTLINES HOW 

3050
01:42:23,871 --> 01:42:25,005
SOURCES ARE MANAGED TO KEEP 

3051
01:42:25,005 --> 01:42:25,572
PROGRAMS AFFORDABLE WHILE 

3052
01:42:25,572 --> 01:42:32,679
MAINTAINING THE FACILITY. THE 

3053
01:42:32,679 --> 01:42:33,780
TABLE ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE 

3054
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:35,182
USE FEES AND REQUIRED PUBLIC 

3055
01:42:35,182 --> 01:42:35,782
BENEFITS, AS OUTLINED IN THE 

3056
01:42:35,782 --> 01:42:36,984
CONTRACT. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE 

3057
01:42:36,984 --> 01:42:43,457
USE FEE IS THE CASH PAYMENT SPR 

3058
01:42:43,457 --> 01:42:44,791
WILL RECEIVE FOR THE OPERATIONS.

3059
01:42:44,791 --> 01:42:45,959
WE WILL TOUCH ON PUBLIC BENEFIT 

3060
01:42:45,959 --> 01:42:47,227
ON THE NEXT SLIDE. WITH REGULAR 

3061
01:42:47,227 --> 01:42:48,428
INCREASES EVERY TWO YEARS, WE 

3062
01:42:48,428 --> 01:42:49,563
ARE ABLE TO FOCUS ON BALANCING 

3063
01:42:49,563 --> 01:42:50,397
AFFORDABILITY FOR FAMILIES WITH 

3064
01:42:50,397 --> 01:42:51,098
THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE 

3065
01:42:51,098 --> 01:42:52,099
PROGRAM AND THE BUILDING. WE 

3066
01:42:52,099 --> 01:42:53,167
WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE 

3067
01:42:53,167 --> 01:42:54,334
PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS REMAIN 

3068
01:42:54,334 --> 01:42:57,704
FINANCIALLY ACCESSIBLE WHILE 

3069
01:42:57,704 --> 01:42:58,305
REMAINING STEWARDS OF THIS 

3070
01:42:58,305 --> 01:42:58,605
COMMUNITY. 

3071
01:42:58,605 --> 01:42:59,873
>> CAN I STOP YOU FOR ONE 

3072
01:42:59,873 --> 01:43:01,308
SECOND? CAN YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 

3073
01:43:01,308 --> 01:43:11,818
SEVEN, REALLY FAST? ME AND MY 

3074
01:43:30,571 --> 01:43:31,572
CHIEF OF STAFF, KELLY, WERE 

3075
01:43:31,572 --> 01:43:32,806
GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THESE 

3076
01:43:32,806 --> 01:43:33,607
NUMBERS TO MAKE SURE WE 

3077
01:43:33,607 --> 01:43:34,474
UNDERSTOOD THEM. SO, THAT 

3078
01:43:34,474 --> 01:43:35,676
$274,800, IS THAT THE TOTAL -- 

3079
01:43:35,676 --> 01:43:36,710
IT SAYS, "TWO YEAR TOTAL." 

3080
01:43:36,710 --> 01:43:38,145
>> THAT IS THE 10 YEAR TERM 

3081
01:43:38,145 --> 01:43:38,378
TOTAL. 

3082
01:43:38,378 --> 01:43:39,780
>> THAT IS THE 10 YEAR? OKAY, 

3083
01:43:39,780 --> 01:43:40,981
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. IT'S --

3084
01:43:40,981 --> 01:43:42,416
OKAY. SO, YOU DO THE TWO YEAR 

3085
01:43:42,416 --> 01:43:43,850
UNTIL YOU GET TO THE VERY END, 

3086
01:43:43,850 --> 01:43:45,219
AND THEN AFTER 10 YEARS, THIS 

3087
01:43:45,219 --> 01:43:46,286
WOULD BE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT 

3088
01:43:46,286 --> 01:43:47,020
TOTAL, 274 $800,000 PER 

3089
01:43:47,020 --> 01:43:48,388
>> THAT IS THE TOTAL, CASH IN 

3090
01:43:48,388 --> 01:43:48,789
PUBLIC BENEFIT. 

3091
01:43:48,789 --> 01:43:49,623
>> FOR 10 YEARS? 

3092
01:43:49,623 --> 01:43:50,157
>> CORRECT. 

3093
01:43:50,157 --> 01:43:50,824
>> FOR 30 KIDS? 

3094
01:43:50,824 --> 01:43:51,425
>> 130 -- 

3095
01:43:51,425 --> 01:43:52,025
>> 130 KIDS? 

3096
01:43:52,025 --> 01:43:54,094
>> OR MORE, AS THE YEARS EXPAND.

3097
01:43:54,228 --> 01:43:55,495
>> OKAY, THAT IS WHAT WE WERE 

3098
01:43:55,495 --> 01:43:56,730
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, ON THE 

3099
01:43:56,730 --> 01:43:58,165
CARE SIDE, AND WHAT IT WOULD BE 

3100
01:43:58,165 --> 01:43:59,800
AT THE END OF 10 YEARS, SO THIS 

3101
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,034
IS THE NUMBER AFTER 10 YEARS? 

3102
01:44:01,034 --> 01:44:02,102
>> CORRECT. INSTEAD OF DOING 

3103
01:44:02,102 --> 01:44:03,370
CPI, WHICH IS UNKNOWING AND HARD

3104
01:44:03,370 --> 01:44:04,705
FOR THEM TO PLAN FOR, WE DID 

3105
01:44:04,705 --> 01:44:07,341
THIS KIND OF INCREASE, SO THAT 

3106
01:44:07,341 --> 01:44:08,408
THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO 

3107
01:44:08,408 --> 01:44:08,642
EXPECT. 

3108
01:44:08,642 --> 01:44:09,843
>> OKAY, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING 

3109
01:44:09,843 --> 01:44:11,511
AT -- OKAY. SO, WHEN WE GET TO 

3110
01:44:11,511 --> 01:44:12,946
PAGE EIGHT, THEN, I WILL LET YOU

3111
01:44:12,946 --> 01:44:13,981
GET THROUGH EIGHT, BECAUSE THERE

3112
01:44:13,981 --> 01:44:15,482
IS A COUPLE QUESTIONS WE HAD ON 

3113
01:44:15,482 --> 01:44:16,183
THAT ONE, AS WELL. 

3114
01:44:16,183 --> 01:44:17,484
>> OKAY. SO, PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE

3115
01:44:17,484 --> 01:44:18,652
AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO MANY OF 

3116
01:44:18,652 --> 01:44:19,519
SPR'S FACILITY CONTRACTS. THEY 

3117
01:44:19,519 --> 01:44:20,454
ALLOW NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO

3118
01:44:20,454 --> 01:44:21,989
PLAY PAY A VERSION OF THE USE 

3119
01:44:21,989 --> 01:44:22,990
FEE BY PROVIDING RESOURCES TO 

3120
01:44:22,990 --> 01:44:24,057
THE COMMUNITY AND FOR CAPITAL 

3121
01:44:24,057 --> 01:44:25,392
IMPROVEMENT TO THE FACILITY. 

3122
01:44:25,392 --> 01:44:34,401
ANNALEE, GROUPS HAVE A PUBLIC 

3123
01:44:34,401 --> 01:44:35,936
BENEFIT PLAN FOR THE COMING YEAR

3124
01:44:35,936 --> 01:44:37,137
AND THEN A REPORT FOR THE PRIOR 

3125
01:44:37,137 --> 01:44:38,171
YEAR. THE REPORTS MONETIZE THE 

3126
01:44:38,171 --> 01:44:39,106
PUBLIC BENEFITS PROVIDED TO 

3127
01:44:39,106 --> 01:44:40,340
ENSURE THEY REACH THE REQUIRED 

3128
01:44:40,340 --> 01:44:41,274
AMOUNT THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE

3129
01:44:41,274 --> 01:44:45,712
CONTRACT. THE AMOUNT REQUIRED 

3130
01:44:45,712 --> 01:44:46,947
FOR MADISON PARK STARTS AT $9600

3131
01:44:46,947 --> 01:44:47,948
ANNUALLY AND IS ADJUSTED EVERY 

3132
01:44:47,948 --> 01:44:49,449
TWO YEARS, AS WAS SHOWN ON THE 

3133
01:44:49,449 --> 01:44:50,183
PREVIOUS SLIDE. THE CONTRACT 

3134
01:44:50,183 --> 01:44:53,520
TEAM WITHIN SPR READS REVIEWS 

3135
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:54,588
AND WORKS WITH OUR CONTRACTORS 

3136
01:44:54,588 --> 01:44:56,056
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THE 

3137
01:44:56,056 --> 01:44:57,124
REQUIRED AMOUNT AND PROVIDE TRUE

3138
01:44:57,124 --> 01:44:57,991
PUBLIC BENEFITS THAT MEET THE 

3139
01:44:57,991 --> 01:45:08,535
NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITIES SERVED.

3140
01:45:09,102 --> 01:45:10,637
IN THE CONTRACT, THE PRESCHOOL 

3141
01:45:10,637 --> 01:45:11,805
HAS PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT 

3142
01:45:11,805 --> 01:45:13,040
INCLUDES ITEMS THAT THEY MAY 

3143
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:13,907
PROVIDE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. THIS 

3144
01:45:13,907 --> 01:45:15,375
IS A MENU OF SORTS THAT ALLOWS 

3145
01:45:15,375 --> 01:45:16,476
THEM TO BUILD THE ANNUAL PLANS 

3146
01:45:16,476 --> 01:45:17,544
FROM THIS PROJECT. IF THE 

3147
01:45:17,544 --> 01:45:18,378
PRESCHOOL WAS TO PROVIDE 

3148
01:45:18,378 --> 01:45:19,446
EVERYTHING ON THE PLAN EVERY 

3149
01:45:19,446 --> 01:45:21,982
YEAR, THEY WOULD FAR EXCEED 

3150
01:45:21,982 --> 01:45:22,883
THEIR FINANCIAL REQUIREMENT. THE

3151
01:45:22,883 --> 01:45:23,650
CONTRACTS TEAM HAS WORKED 

3152
01:45:23,650 --> 01:45:24,685
CLOSELY WITH THE PRESCHOOL TO 

3153
01:45:24,685 --> 01:45:25,719
DEVELOP THE PLAN AND THE 

3154
01:45:25,719 --> 01:45:27,020
CONTRACT TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN

3155
01:45:27,020 --> 01:45:28,121
MEET THE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS 

3156
01:45:28,121 --> 01:45:29,122
OF THE CONTRACT, AND THE NEEDS 

3157
01:45:29,122 --> 01:45:37,531
OF THE COMMUNITY THEY SERVE. SO,

3158
01:45:37,531 --> 01:45:38,231
MADISON PARK COOPERATIVE 

3159
01:45:38,231 --> 01:45:38,832
PRESCHOOL PROVIDES NUMEROUS 

3160
01:45:38,832 --> 01:45:39,700
PUBLIC BENEFITS, ANNUALLY, THE 

3161
01:45:39,700 --> 01:45:40,834
PRESCHOOL IS PROVIDED $15,000 IN

3162
01:45:40,834 --> 01:45:41,535
SCHOLARSHIPS TO CHILDREN AND 

3163
01:45:41,535 --> 01:45:42,269
FAMILIES TO ENSURE THAT 

3164
01:45:42,269 --> 01:45:43,236
PRESCHOOL AND THEIR PROGRAMMING 

3165
01:45:43,236 --> 01:45:44,938
IS ATTAINABLE AND THEY PLAN TO 

3166
01:45:44,938 --> 01:45:47,908
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS

3167
01:45:47,908 --> 01:45:49,009
AT THIS LEVEL, AS NEEDED. THEY 

3168
01:45:49,009 --> 01:45:50,210
SERVED FAMILIES FROM ALL OVER 

3169
01:45:50,210 --> 01:45:50,877
THE GREATER SEATTLE AREA, 

3170
01:45:50,877 --> 01:45:51,712
INCLUDING MADISON PARK, CAPITOL 

3171
01:45:51,712 --> 01:45:52,746
HILL, THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, AND 

3172
01:45:52,746 --> 01:45:59,152
THE RANIER VALLEY. IN ADDITION 

3173
01:45:59,152 --> 01:46:00,187
TO PRESCHOOL, THEY PROVIDE FREE 

3174
01:46:00,187 --> 01:46:01,021
COMMUNITY EVENTS AND PARENT 

3175
01:46:01,021 --> 01:46:01,888
EDUCATION FOR BOTH ARE ENROLLED 

3176
01:46:01,888 --> 01:46:03,056
FAMILIES AND THE GREATER SEATTLE

3177
01:46:03,056 --> 01:46:03,890
COMMUNITY, WHILE ALSO PARTNERING

3178
01:46:03,890 --> 01:46:10,430
WITH CO-OP PRESCHOOLS SUCH AS 

3179
01:46:10,430 --> 01:46:11,164
VICTORY HEIGHTS, RAINIER VALLEY,

3180
01:46:11,164 --> 01:46:12,165
AND WHITE CENTER, AND THE 

3181
01:46:12,165 --> 01:46:13,033
NONPROFITS, FRIENDS OF THE 

3182
01:46:13,033 --> 01:46:14,134
CHILDREN OF SEATTLE AND REFUGEE 

3183
01:46:14,134 --> 01:46:15,435
WOMEN'S ALLIANCE. IN SUPPORT OF

3184
01:46:15,435 --> 01:46:16,203
THEIR PARTNERS, THEY ALSO HAVE 

3185
01:46:16,203 --> 01:46:18,338
DRIVES TO PROVIDE SCHOOL 

3186
01:46:18,338 --> 01:46:19,172
SUPPLIES, CLOTHING, AND BASIC 

3187
01:46:19,172 --> 01:46:19,806
NEEDS FOR UNDERSERVED CHILDREN 

3188
01:46:19,806 --> 01:46:20,807
AND FAMILIES PARTICIPATING IN 

3189
01:46:20,807 --> 01:46:21,908
THESE PRESCHOOLS AND NONPROFIT 

3190
01:46:21,908 --> 01:46:25,979
PROGRAMS. IF THEY WERE TO 

3191
01:46:25,979 --> 01:46:26,646
PROVIDE ALL PROPOSED ACTIVITIES 

3192
01:46:26,646 --> 01:46:27,781
IN ONE YEAR, THEY WOULD HAVE 

3193
01:46:27,781 --> 01:46:30,650
OVER $40,000 IN PUBLIC BENEFIT. 

3194
01:46:30,650 --> 01:46:32,185
AS FUNDS ALLOW, THE PRESCHOOL 

3195
01:46:32,185 --> 01:46:33,086
ALSO PLANS TO PROVIDE CAPITAL 

3196
01:46:33,086 --> 01:46:35,088
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BATHHOUSE, 

3197
01:46:35,088 --> 01:46:36,156
WHICH MAY INCLUDE PAINTING AND 

3198
01:46:36,156 --> 01:46:37,090
REPLACING FLOORING AND 

3199
01:46:37,090 --> 01:46:47,601
CABINETRY. THEIR FIRST FOCUS 

3200
01:46:49,703 --> 01:46:50,570
REMAINS ON THE CHILDREN AND 

3201
01:46:50,570 --> 01:46:51,772
FAMILIES THEY SERVE, BUT, WHEN 

3202
01:46:51,772 --> 01:46:52,539
POSSIBLE, THEY WANT TO SUPPORT 

3203
01:46:52,539 --> 01:46:53,640
THE GREATER COMMUNITY IN HELPING

3204
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:54,541
TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY AND 

3205
01:46:54,541 --> 01:46:55,342
CREATING A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT

3206
01:46:55,342 --> 01:46:56,810
FOR ALL THOSE WHO USE THE PARK. 

3207
01:46:56,810 --> 01:46:58,412
AND FINALLY, THE PRESCHOOL 

3208
01:46:58,412 --> 01:46:59,446
ENSURES CONTINUED CARE AND USE 

3209
01:46:59,446 --> 01:47:00,480
OF A HISTORIC PUBLIC FACILITY, 

3210
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:01,515
KEEPING IT ACTIVE AND ACCESSIBLE

3211
01:47:01,515 --> 01:47:02,783
TO THE COMMUNITY. HAVING EYES ON

3212
01:47:02,783 --> 01:47:03,517
THE COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING 

3213
01:47:03,517 --> 01:47:04,584
PARK, CONTRIBUTES FURTHER TO THE

3214
01:47:04,584 --> 01:47:06,987
PUBLIC BENEFIT IN THIS CONTRACT.

3215
01:47:06,987 --> 01:47:09,456
>> SO, THE QUESTION I HAD -- AND

3216
01:47:09,456 --> 01:47:18,098
I THINK HE ANSWERED IT -- SO, IN

3217
01:47:18,098 --> 01:47:19,199
2025 -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT 

3218
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:20,467
PAGE OF THE CONTRACT, MAYBE 65? 

3219
01:47:20,467 --> 01:47:21,768
CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT, THERE IS 

3220
01:47:21,768 --> 01:47:28,508
$60,000, FOR THESE QUARTER 

3221
01:47:28,508 --> 01:47:29,342
SCHOLARSHIPS THAT ADD UP TO 

3222
01:47:29,342 --> 01:47:29,609
$15,000? 

3223
01:47:29,609 --> 01:47:30,877
>> THAT IS THE ANNUAL AMOUNT, 

3224
01:47:30,877 --> 01:47:31,845
SO, THEY HAVE FOUR QUARTERS, 

3225
01:47:31,845 --> 01:47:32,979
FALL, WINTER, SUMMER, SPRING -- 

3226
01:47:32,979 --> 01:47:34,448
I DID THAT OUT OF ORDER [ 

3227
01:47:34,448 --> 01:47:39,986
LAUGHTER ] -- AND WITHIN THAT 

3228
01:47:39,986 --> 01:47:40,954
FULL YEAR, THEY HAVE PROVIDED 

3229
01:47:40,954 --> 01:47:42,055
$15,000, THAT IS THEIR CURRENT 

3230
01:47:42,055 --> 01:47:42,289
AMOUNT. 

3231
01:47:42,289 --> 01:47:43,523
>> OKAY, AND THANK YOU FOR 

3232
01:47:43,523 --> 01:47:44,825
FOLLOWING THIS -- WHEN WE GET TO

3233
01:47:44,825 --> 01:47:46,059
VICTORY HEIGHTS, I SEE THAT YOU 

3234
01:47:46,059 --> 01:47:47,093
FOLLOWED THE SAME FORMAT, SO 

3235
01:47:47,093 --> 01:47:48,361
THANK YOU FOR THAT. WITH THAT, 

3236
01:47:48,361 --> 01:47:49,763
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY 

3237
01:47:49,763 --> 01:47:50,730
COLLEAGUES, REGARDING THE 

3238
01:47:50,730 --> 01:47:58,672
MADISON BEACH BATHHOUSE, 

3239
01:47:58,672 --> 01:47:59,239
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL? AND 

3240
01:47:59,239 --> 01:48:00,106
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE 

3241
01:48:00,106 --> 01:48:01,174
SUMMARY, AND FISCAL NOTE, AND 

3242
01:48:01,174 --> 01:48:02,008
POWERPOINT, AND THE OPERATION 

3243
01:48:02,008 --> 01:48:07,080
AND USE CONTRACT. OH -- A 

3244
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,114
PERSON. HELLO. 

3245
01:48:08,114 --> 01:48:17,424
>> HELLO. 

3246
01:48:17,424 --> 01:48:18,625
>> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? 

3247
01:48:18,625 --> 01:48:20,260
>> I JUST CAME FOR A QUICK 

3248
01:48:20,260 --> 01:48:20,994
COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THE 

3249
01:48:20,994 --> 01:48:22,295
AGENDA ITEM IS PACKED, THANK YOU

3250
01:48:22,295 --> 01:48:23,463
FOR HAVING THIS ON YOUR AGENDA, 

3251
01:48:23,463 --> 01:48:24,331
THANKS TO SEATTLE PARKS 

3252
01:48:24,331 --> 01:48:25,131
DEPARTMENT FOR SENDING THIS 

3253
01:48:25,131 --> 01:48:26,366
DOWN. JUST IN SUPPORT OF THE 

3254
01:48:26,366 --> 01:48:27,601
PRESCHOOL, AND IT IS A REALLY 

3255
01:48:27,601 --> 01:48:28,802
BIG ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. I 

3256
01:48:28,802 --> 01:48:30,670
KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SEND 

3257
01:48:30,670 --> 01:48:31,671
THEIR CHILDREN THERE AND JUST 

3258
01:48:31,671 --> 01:48:32,939
REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS ON 

3259
01:48:32,939 --> 01:48:34,507
THE DOCKET AND JUST WANTED TO 

3260
01:48:34,507 --> 01:48:45,051
LEND MY SUPPORT TO MY COLLEAGUES

3261
01:48:54,728 --> 01:48:55,896
THAT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO

3262
01:48:55,896 --> 01:48:56,863
MY COMMUNITY. THANK YOU PEERED 

3263
01:48:56,863 --> 01:48:58,064
>> ALSO, YOU ARE REPRESENTING D3

3264
01:48:58,064 --> 01:48:59,099
AND THIS IS IN D3. 

3265
01:48:59,099 --> 01:49:00,166
>> CORRECT. THIS IS CORRECT. 

3266
01:49:00,166 --> 01:49:01,101
THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK 

3267
01:49:01,101 --> 01:49:01,368
YOU. 

3268
01:49:01,368 --> 01:49:02,369
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

3269
01:49:02,369 --> 01:49:03,370
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, 

3270
01:49:03,370 --> 01:49:04,404
COMMENTS? OKAY, I'M NOT SEEING 

3271
01:49:04,404 --> 01:49:05,705
ANY. OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD, 

3272
01:49:05,705 --> 01:49:06,172
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. 

3273
01:49:06,172 --> 01:49:07,274
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I JUST 

3274
01:49:07,274 --> 01:49:08,642
WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THE

3275
01:49:08,642 --> 01:49:10,243
BRIEFING. AND AS SOMEONE, AS I 

3276
01:49:10,243 --> 01:49:11,177
MENTIONED BEFORE, WHO CAME INTO 

3277
01:49:11,177 --> 01:49:12,145
THIS JOB FROM BEING A 

3278
01:49:12,145 --> 01:49:12,979
STAY-AT-HOME DAD, I REALLY 

3279
01:49:12,979 --> 01:49:14,714
APPRECIATE THE SERVICE, AND I AM

3280
01:49:14,714 --> 01:49:15,415
A LITTLE BIT JEALOUS, IN TERMS 

3281
01:49:15,415 --> 01:49:16,683
OF THE BRIEFING, LIKE, ON SLIDE 

3282
01:49:16,683 --> 01:49:17,884
FIVE -- THANK YOU FOR THE 

3283
01:49:17,884 --> 01:49:19,152
NUMBERS -- IT LOOKS TO BE 

3284
01:49:19,152 --> 01:49:20,420
FANTASTIC. I AM A LITTLE BIT 

3285
01:49:20,420 --> 01:49:21,688
JEALOUS ABOUT HOW NICE OF A 

3286
01:49:21,688 --> 01:49:22,789
SPACE THAT IS FOR THE CHILDREN 

3287
01:49:22,789 --> 01:49:26,593
AND IT IS FANTASTIC. AND I DO 

3288
01:49:26,593 --> 01:49:27,694
LIKE THE POINT ABOUT ACTIVATING 

3289
01:49:27,694 --> 01:49:29,029
THE AREA, I THINK THAT IS REALLY

3290
01:49:29,029 --> 01:49:31,031
IMPORTANT, SO I JUST -- YOU 

3291
01:49:31,031 --> 01:49:32,399
KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO REMARK ON

3292
01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:33,967
THAT, SO THANK YOU FOR THE 

3293
01:49:33,967 --> 01:49:38,538
PRESENTATION. 

3294
01:49:38,538 --> 01:49:39,839
>> YEAH, SO, SINCE 1958, THEY 

3295
01:49:39,839 --> 01:49:45,211
HAVE BEEN AROUND? 

3296
01:49:45,211 --> 01:49:46,746
>> WELL, THE HISTORY IS HISTORY 

3297
01:49:46,746 --> 01:49:47,614
AND IT IS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED. 

3298
01:49:47,614 --> 01:49:49,149
SO -- [ LAUGHTER ] THAT'S WHAT 

3299
01:49:49,149 --> 01:49:52,485
WE KNOW. [ LAUGHTER ] 

3300
01:49:52,485 --> 01:49:53,720
>> THE '70s, I DON'T REMEMBER 

3301
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,390
THE '70s. I WASN'T BORN. SO --

3302
01:49:57,390 --> 01:49:58,992
>> ALL RIGHT. NOT SEEING ANY 

3303
01:49:58,992 --> 01:50:00,193
OTHER QUESTIONS. I MOVE THAT THE

3304
01:50:00,193 --> 01:50:02,796
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF 

3305
01:50:02,796 --> 01:50:04,331
COUNCIL BILL 121212, IS THERE A 

3306
01:50:04,331 --> 01:50:04,564
SECOND? 

3307
01:50:04,564 --> 01:50:10,070
>> SECOND. 

3308
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:11,504
>> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN MOVED 

3309
01:50:11,504 --> 01:50:12,305
AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND 

3310
01:50:12,305 --> 01:50:13,606
PASSAGE OF THE BILL. ANY OTHER 

3311
01:50:13,606 --> 01:50:14,774
COMMENTS? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO 

3312
01:50:14,774 --> 01:50:16,009
THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

3313
01:50:16,009 --> 01:50:16,810
HOLLINGSWORTH FOR JOINING US, 

3314
01:50:16,810 --> 01:50:18,111
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 

3315
01:50:18,111 --> 01:50:21,781
ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL?

3316
01:50:21,781 --> 01:50:22,582
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

3317
01:50:22,582 --> 01:50:23,016
>> AYE. 

3318
01:50:23,016 --> 01:50:23,550
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

3319
01:50:23,550 --> 01:50:24,050
>> AYE. 

3320
01:50:24,050 --> 01:50:32,359
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? VICE 

3321
01:50:32,359 --> 01:50:32,926
CHAIR KETTLE? 

3322
01:50:32,926 --> 01:50:33,293
>> AYE. 

3323
01:50:33,293 --> 01:50:33,827
>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

3324
01:50:33,827 --> 01:50:34,194
>> AYE. 

3325
01:50:34,194 --> 01:50:35,428
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FOUR IN 

3326
01:50:35,428 --> 01:50:36,596
FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. 

3327
01:50:36,596 --> 01:50:37,430
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PARRIES

3328
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:45,138
AND COUNCIL BILL 121212 WILL BE 

3329
01:50:45,138 --> 01:50:46,473
SENT TO THE JUNE 2nd FULL CITY 

3330
01:50:46,473 --> 01:50:47,474
COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU VERY 

3331
01:50:47,474 --> 01:50:48,742
MUCH AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR 

3332
01:50:48,742 --> 01:50:50,010
SHOWING UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND

3333
01:50:50,010 --> 01:50:50,977
DOING THE JAZZ HANDS. IT'S 

3334
01:50:50,977 --> 01:50:52,312
REALLY, REALLY NICE. INSTEAD OF 

3335
01:50:52,312 --> 01:50:53,780
SCREAMING AT US. I APPRECIATE 

3336
01:50:53,780 --> 01:50:56,983
THAT. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL NOW 

3337
01:50:56,983 --> 01:50:58,151
MOVE OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS, 

3338
01:50:58,151 --> 01:50:59,519
ITEM NUMBER SIX, MR. CLERK, CAN 

3339
01:50:59,519 --> 01:51:00,854
YOU PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER SIX 

3340
01:51:00,854 --> 01:51:01,421
INTO THE RECORD? 

3341
01:51:01,421 --> 01:51:02,689
>> AGENDA ITEM SIX, COUNCIL BILL

3342
01:51:02,689 --> 01:51:10,730
121213 -- AUTHORIZING SEATTLE 

3343
01:51:10,730 --> 01:51:11,698
PARKS AND RECREATION TO ENTER 

3344
01:51:11,698 --> 01:51:12,732
INTO A CONTRACT WITH VICTORY 

3345
01:51:12,732 --> 01:51:14,100
HEIGHTS PRESCHOOL, AND PROPERTY 

3346
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:14,968
MANAGEMENT WITH VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3347
01:51:14,968 --> 01:51:16,069
SHELTER HOUSE, THERE WILL BE 

3348
01:51:16,069 --> 01:51:23,109
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE. 

3349
01:51:23,109 --> 01:51:24,744
>> LET'S HEAR IT FOR VICTORY 

3350
01:51:24,744 --> 01:51:28,782
HEIGHTS! I THOUGHT I WAS GOING 

3351
01:51:28,782 --> 01:51:29,516
TO DO IT. 

3352
01:51:29,516 --> 01:51:30,517
>> YES, LET'S HEAR IT FOR 

3353
01:51:30,517 --> 01:51:32,419
VICTORY HEIGHTS, D5! AGAIN, 

3354
01:51:32,419 --> 01:51:33,553
THANK YOU FOR THE FORMAT AND 

3355
01:51:33,553 --> 01:51:35,555
DOING IT EXACTLY THE SAME AND I 

3356
01:51:35,555 --> 01:51:45,832
AM SURE MICHELE HAS SOMETHING TO

3357
01:51:45,832 --> 01:51:47,167
DO WITH THIS BECAUSE SHE KNOWS 

3358
01:51:47,167 --> 01:51:48,268
HOW WE FEEL ABOUT CHRONOLOGIES, 

3359
01:51:48,268 --> 01:51:49,135
AND PAGE NUMBERS, AND ATTACHING 

3360
01:51:49,135 --> 01:51:50,070
THE FISCAL NOTE -- GOODBYE, 

3361
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:50,503
COUNCIL PRESIDENT! 

3362
01:51:50,503 --> 01:51:52,105
>> BIG PAGE NUMBERS SO I CAN SEE

3363
01:51:52,105 --> 01:51:56,643
THEM, TOO. [ LAUGHTER ] YES. OUR

3364
01:51:56,643 --> 01:51:57,444
SECOND PRESENTATION TODAY IS 

3365
01:51:57,444 --> 01:51:58,878
SIMILAR TO THE FIRST, BUT WITH A

3366
01:51:58,878 --> 01:51:59,946
DIFFERENT FACILITY IN D5 AND 

3367
01:51:59,946 --> 01:52:01,114
DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR, SO I WILL 

3368
01:52:01,114 --> 01:52:02,015
LET KATHLEEN WALK YOU THROUGH 

3369
01:52:02,015 --> 01:52:02,949
OUR VICTORY HEIGHTS SHELTER 

3370
01:52:02,949 --> 01:52:03,383
HOUSE AGREEMENT. 

3371
01:52:03,383 --> 01:52:04,451
>> SO, WHILE THESE ARE BOTH 

3372
01:52:04,451 --> 01:52:05,652
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOLS IN OUR 

3373
01:52:05,652 --> 01:52:15,829
FACILITIES, THEY ARE UNIQUE 

3374
01:52:15,829 --> 01:52:16,963
OPERATIONS IN PROGRAMS, I JUST 

3375
01:52:16,963 --> 01:52:17,864
WANTED TO BRING THAT TO 

3376
01:52:17,864 --> 01:52:18,665
EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. THEY DO 

3377
01:52:18,665 --> 01:52:19,499
ALSO PROVIDE EARLY CHILDHOOD 

3378
01:52:19,499 --> 01:52:20,233
PROGRAMS, INCLUDING PRESCHOOL 

3379
01:52:20,233 --> 01:52:21,434
AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND I WILL

3380
01:52:21,434 --> 01:52:22,569
WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS OF 

3381
01:52:22,569 --> 01:52:23,603
THE CONTRACT. THE PRIMARY GOAL 

3382
01:52:23,603 --> 01:52:24,838
OF THIS CONTRACT, IS TO MAKE 

3383
01:52:24,838 --> 01:52:26,206
SURE THAT VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3384
01:52:26,206 --> 01:52:32,045
PRESCHOOL PROVIDES EARLY 

3385
01:52:32,045 --> 01:52:32,746
CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN 

3386
01:52:32,746 --> 01:52:33,613
IN THE VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3387
01:52:33,613 --> 01:52:34,214
NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING 

3388
01:52:34,214 --> 01:52:34,814
SEATTLE COMMUNITY. THEIR 

3389
01:52:34,814 --> 01:52:35,682
PROGRAMS SERVE CHILDREN THROUGH 

3390
01:52:35,682 --> 01:52:41,921
INFANCY TO AGE 5. IN ADDITION TO

3391
01:52:41,921 --> 01:52:42,555
PRESCHOOL, THEY OFFER FREE 

3392
01:52:42,555 --> 01:52:43,523
COMMUNITY EVENTS WHICH ARE OPEN 

3393
01:52:43,523 --> 01:52:44,357
TO THE PUBLIC, SUPPORTING 

3394
01:52:44,357 --> 01:52:44,958
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND 

3395
01:52:44,958 --> 01:52:45,792
PROVIDING FREE AND FUN 

3396
01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:46,860
OPPORTUNITIES. THEY ALSO PLAY AN

3397
01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:47,660
IMPORTANT ROLE IN MAINTAINING 

3398
01:52:47,660 --> 01:52:48,862
AND CARING FOR THE SHELTER HOUSE

3399
01:52:48,862 --> 01:52:49,696
FACILITY AND THE SURROUNDING 

3400
01:52:49,696 --> 01:52:56,870
PARK AND THEIR PROGRAMS ALSO 

3401
01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:57,937
SUPPORT THE BROADER VISION AND 

3402
01:52:57,937 --> 01:52:58,938
VALUES OF SEATTLE PARKS AND 

3403
01:52:58,938 --> 01:53:00,373
RECREATION. THE VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3404
01:53:00,373 --> 01:53:01,374
SHELTER HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN

3405
01:53:01,374 --> 01:53:09,349
1938, WHEN THE AREA WAS STILL 

3406
01:53:09,349 --> 01:53:10,016
PART OF UNINCORPORATED KING 

3407
01:53:10,016 --> 01:53:11,251
COUNTY, AND IN THE 1950s, A 

3408
01:53:11,251 --> 01:53:12,385
PRESCHOOL BEGAN OPERATING OUT OF

3409
01:53:12,385 --> 01:53:13,086
THE FACILITY, PROVIDING PROGRAMS

3410
01:53:13,086 --> 01:53:14,320
TO THE COMMUNITY. IN 1954, THE 

3411
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:15,755
PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED BY SEATTLE

3412
01:53:15,755 --> 01:53:16,389
PARKS AND RECREATION, AND SINCE 

3413
01:53:16,389 --> 01:53:21,895
AT LEAST 1988, VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3414
01:53:21,895 --> 01:53:22,862
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL HAS HELD A

3415
01:53:22,862 --> 01:53:24,130
FORMAL CONTRACT WITH THE CITY TO

3416
01:53:24,130 --> 01:53:25,298
OPERATE IN THE SHELTER HOUSE. 

3417
01:53:25,298 --> 01:53:25,999
THIS LONG HISTORY HIGHLIGHTS 

3418
01:53:25,999 --> 01:53:27,033
BOTH DISABILITY OF THE PROGRAM 

3419
01:53:27,033 --> 01:53:28,401
AND ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE 

3420
01:53:28,401 --> 01:53:32,005
COMMUNITY. THE PUBLIC PROCESS 

3421
01:53:32,005 --> 01:53:33,540
BEGAN IN 2024 WHEN WE ISSUED A 

3422
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:43,716
LETTER OF INTEREST. SPR 

3423
01:53:43,716 --> 01:53:44,684
RECEIVED, AGAIN, ONLY ONE 

3424
01:53:44,684 --> 01:53:45,585
RESPONSE, FROM VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3425
01:53:45,585 --> 01:53:46,219
COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL. FOLLOWING

3426
01:53:46,219 --> 01:53:46,953
THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROCESS, 

3427
01:53:46,953 --> 01:53:48,221
WE AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO THE 

3428
01:53:48,221 --> 01:53:49,022
PRESCHOOL AND BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS

3429
01:53:49,022 --> 01:53:51,357
IN THE SUMMER OF 2024, AND THEY 

3430
01:53:51,357 --> 01:53:52,358
HAVE ALSO BEEN CONTINUING THEIR 

3431
01:53:52,358 --> 01:53:53,159
PROGRAMS THROUGH THEIR PREVIOUS 

3432
01:53:53,159 --> 01:53:53,927
CONTRACTS. AND THEY ARE 

3433
01:53:53,927 --> 01:53:55,528
CURRENTLY SERVING 42 STUDENTS IN

3434
01:53:55,528 --> 01:53:56,863
THEIR PROGRAM. SO, THIS SLIDE 

3435
01:53:56,863 --> 01:53:58,631
HIGHLIGHTS THE KEY TERMS OF THE 

3436
01:53:58,631 --> 01:53:59,799
NEW CONTRACT. THE CONTRACT 

3437
01:53:59,799 --> 01:54:01,000
FOCUSES ON MAINTAINING THE 

3438
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:11,544
PRESCHOOL ROLE AS OPERATING THE 

3439
01:54:12,278 --> 01:54:13,012
SHELTER HOUSE WHILE PROVIDING 

3440
01:54:13,012 --> 01:54:14,113
EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS FOR THE

3441
01:54:14,113 --> 01:54:15,381
10 YEAR TERM. IT ALSO FORCES 

3442
01:54:15,381 --> 01:54:16,115
EXPECTATIONS AROUND PROGRAM 

3443
01:54:16,115 --> 01:54:16,749
DELIVERY, FACILITY UPKEEP, AND 

3444
01:54:16,749 --> 01:54:19,986
ALIGNMENT WITH CITY GOALS. THE 

3445
01:54:19,986 --> 01:54:20,787
PRESCHOOL WILL BE RESPONSIBLE 

3446
01:54:20,787 --> 01:54:21,588
FOR MINOR AND CUSTODIAL 

3447
01:54:21,588 --> 01:54:22,589
MAINTENANCE AT THE FACILITY AND 

3448
01:54:22,589 --> 01:54:23,623
SPR WILL REMAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR 

3449
01:54:23,623 --> 01:54:25,124
ALL MAJOR MAINTENANCE. THE NEW 

3450
01:54:25,124 --> 01:54:25,859
CONTRACT OUTLINES HOW RESOURCES 

3451
01:54:25,859 --> 01:54:36,369
ARE MANAGED TO KEEP RESOURCES 

3452
01:54:36,836 --> 01:54:37,704
AFFORDABLE WHILE KEEPING THE 

3453
01:54:37,704 --> 01:54:38,571
FACILITY. THE TABLE ON THIS 

3454
01:54:38,571 --> 01:54:39,772
SLIDE SHOWS THE USE FEES AND 

3455
01:54:39,772 --> 01:54:40,607
REQUIRED PUBLIC BENEFITS, AS 

3456
01:54:40,607 --> 01:54:41,608
OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT. AND 

3457
01:54:41,608 --> 01:54:43,476
AGAIN, THE USE FEE IS OUR CASH 

3458
01:54:43,476 --> 01:54:48,214
PAYMENT. WE WILL TOUCH ON PUBLIC

3459
01:54:48,214 --> 01:54:49,048
BENEFITS, NEXT. WITH REGULAR 

3460
01:54:49,048 --> 01:54:50,083
INCREASES EVERY TWO YEARS, WE 

3461
01:54:50,083 --> 01:54:51,317
ARE ABLE TO FOCUS ON BALANCING 

3462
01:54:51,317 --> 01:54:52,118
THE PORTABILITY FOR FAMILIES 

3463
01:54:52,118 --> 01:54:53,319
WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE 

3464
01:54:53,319 --> 01:54:55,655
PROGRAM AND THE BUILDING. AS 

3465
01:54:55,655 --> 01:54:56,623
DESCRIBED IN THE MEDICINE PARK 

3466
01:54:56,623 --> 01:54:57,423
PRESENTATION, VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3467
01:54:57,423 --> 01:54:58,358
HAS PUT TOGETHER A PUBLIC 

3468
01:54:58,358 --> 01:55:04,230
BENEFITS PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT. 

3469
01:55:04,230 --> 01:55:05,598
THE PROJECT TEAM WILL CONTINUE 

3470
01:55:05,598 --> 01:55:06,666
TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE 

3471
01:55:06,666 --> 01:55:07,700
PRESCHOOL TO ENSURE THEIR PLAN 

3472
01:55:07,700 --> 01:55:08,835
AND REPORTS MEET THE REQUIRED 

3473
01:55:08,835 --> 01:55:10,003
AMOUNT. FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS 

3474
01:55:10,003 --> 01:55:12,772
OF THE PROJECT, THAT AMOUNT IS 

3475
01:55:12,772 --> 01:55:13,940
$13,200 ANNUALLY AND INCREASES 

3476
01:55:13,940 --> 01:55:14,874
EVERY TWO YEARS, AS INDICATED IN

3477
01:55:14,874 --> 01:55:16,175
THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. VICTORY 

3478
01:55:16,175 --> 01:55:19,112
HEIGHTS' CONTACT DELIVERS A 

3479
01:55:19,112 --> 01:55:20,113
PLAN THAT EXPANDS ACCESS TO 

3480
01:55:20,113 --> 01:55:21,047
PROGRAMS. THE PRESCHOOL HAS 

3481
01:55:21,047 --> 01:55:31,591
PROVIDED OVER $2000 ANNUALLY IN 

3482
01:55:32,292 --> 01:55:32,926
SCHOLARSHIPS TO SUPPORT FAMILIES

3483
01:55:32,926 --> 01:55:33,793
AND MAKE PRESCHOOL ACCESSIBLE. 

3484
01:55:33,793 --> 01:55:35,128
THEIR GOAL IS TO NEVER TURN A 

3485
01:55:35,128 --> 01:55:36,095
CHILD AWAY DUE TO FINANCIAL 

3486
01:55:36,095 --> 01:55:37,030
ISSUES. THIS AMOUNT MAY 

3487
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:37,964
FLUCTUATE, BASED ON THE NEED 

3488
01:55:37,964 --> 01:55:39,732
OVER THE TERM OF THIS CONTRACT. 

3489
01:55:39,732 --> 01:55:44,037
THEY ALSO PROVIDE FREE COMMUNITY

3490
01:55:44,037 --> 01:55:45,071
EVENTS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, 

3491
01:55:45,071 --> 01:55:46,139
CREATING A STRONG SENSE OF 

3492
01:55:46,139 --> 01:55:46,906
NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY. THE 

3493
01:55:46,906 --> 01:55:48,141
ESTIMATE IS THAT THEY WILL 

3494
01:55:48,141 --> 01:55:48,875
PROVIDE APPROXIMATELY $12,000 IN

3495
01:55:48,875 --> 01:55:49,609
FREE COMMUNITY EVENTS ANNUALLY. 

3496
01:55:49,609 --> 01:56:00,086
ONGOING STEWARDSHIP OF THE 

3497
01:56:00,486 --> 01:56:01,487
SHELTER HOUSE AND PARK ARE 

3498
01:56:01,487 --> 01:56:02,455
IMPORTANT TO THE PRESCHOOL, THIS

3499
01:56:02,455 --> 01:56:03,323
INCLUDES VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES IN

3500
01:56:03,323 --> 01:56:04,123
THE PARK AND CAPITAL 

3501
01:56:04,123 --> 01:56:05,291
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY, AS

3502
01:56:05,291 --> 01:56:05,958
FINANCES ALLOW. VOLUNTEER HOURS 

3503
01:56:05,958 --> 01:56:06,960
ARE MONETIZED WITH AN HOURLY 

3504
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:07,961
RATE PROVIDED BY THE INDEPENDENT

3505
01:56:07,961 --> 01:56:10,930
SECTOR ANNUAL REPORT, AND ARE AN

3506
01:56:10,930 --> 01:56:11,898
IMPORTANT PART OF THE PUBLIC 

3507
01:56:11,898 --> 01:56:12,865
BENEFITS FOR THE PRESCHOOL. AND 

3508
01:56:12,865 --> 01:56:13,933
FINALLY, HAVING EYES ON THE 

3509
01:56:13,933 --> 01:56:14,767
FACILITY AND SURROUNDING PARK 

3510
01:56:14,767 --> 01:56:15,535
CONTRIBUTES FURTHER TO THE 

3511
01:56:15,535 --> 01:56:16,369
PUBLIC BENEFITS IN THIS 

3512
01:56:16,369 --> 01:56:16,636
CONTRACT. 

3513
01:56:16,636 --> 01:56:18,204
>> SO, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, JUST

3514
01:56:18,204 --> 01:56:19,839
SO I AM CLEAR. AND I THINK WE 

3515
01:56:19,839 --> 01:56:21,507
ASKED YOU THIS ON PAGE EIGHT. 

3516
01:56:21,507 --> 01:56:24,344
SCHOLARSHIPS AWARDED ANNUALLY. 

3517
01:56:24,344 --> 01:56:26,913
PAGE 59 OF YOUR CONTRACT FOR 

3518
01:56:26,913 --> 01:56:33,186
2025, 22 STUDENTS? 

3519
01:56:33,186 --> 01:56:34,921
>> CORRECT. THIS IS A LITTLE 

3520
01:56:34,921 --> 01:56:43,229
DIFFERENT. SO, VICTORY HEIGHTS 

3521
01:56:43,229 --> 01:56:44,097
TAPS INTO THE PACKED 

3522
01:56:44,097 --> 01:56:45,098
SCHOLARSHIPS, WHICH GOES INTO 

3523
01:56:45,098 --> 01:56:45,732
THE CO-OP, OVERARCHING THROUGH 

3524
01:56:45,732 --> 01:56:50,937
NORTH SEATTLE. SO, THEY ARE 

3525
01:56:50,937 --> 01:56:51,971
OFFSETTING WHAT THESE OTHER 

3526
01:56:51,971 --> 01:56:52,605
SCHOLARSHIPS AREN'T ABLE TO 

3527
01:56:52,605 --> 01:56:53,639
PROVIDE POINT YOU MAKE OKAY. 

3528
01:56:53,639 --> 01:56:55,308
>> YEAH, SO, IT'S A MISSING 

3529
01:56:55,308 --> 01:57:00,012
PIECE. THEY DON'T COUNT THAT IN

3530
01:57:00,012 --> 01:57:00,646
THEIR PUBLIC BENEFITS, BECAUSE 

3531
01:57:00,646 --> 01:57:01,814
THEY ARE NOT PAYING THAT. SO, 

3532
01:57:01,814 --> 01:57:03,049
THAT IS WHY THAT NUMBER LOOKS 

3533
01:57:03,049 --> 01:57:04,450
LOW. BUT, IN FACT, THEY HAVE A 

3534
01:57:04,450 --> 01:57:05,785
LARGER NUMBER OF SCHOLARSHIP 

3535
01:57:05,785 --> 01:57:06,652
STUDENTS. 

3536
01:57:06,652 --> 01:57:16,095
>> AND I WANT TO THANK OUR CHIEF

3537
01:57:16,095 --> 01:57:17,029
OF STAFF, KELLY, WHO FIGURED 

3538
01:57:17,029 --> 01:57:17,864
THAT OUT FOR ME. 

3539
01:57:17,864 --> 01:57:18,798
>> CORRECT, WE HAD THAT 

3540
01:57:18,798 --> 01:57:19,432
DISCUSSION THIS MORNING. 

3541
01:57:19,432 --> 01:57:27,974
>> THANK YOU, THAT'S JUST THE 

3542
01:57:27,974 --> 01:57:29,108
CLARIFICATION WE NEEDED ON THE 

3543
01:57:29,108 --> 01:57:30,042
PUBLIC BENEFIT PIECE, SO THANK 

3544
01:57:30,042 --> 01:57:30,243
YOU. 

3545
01:57:30,243 --> 01:57:30,676
>> ABSOLUTELY. 

3546
01:57:30,676 --> 01:57:32,045
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU 

3547
01:57:32,045 --> 01:57:33,346
WANTED TO ASK, BEFORE I ASK MY 

3548
01:57:33,346 --> 01:57:34,447
COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE ANY 

3549
01:57:34,447 --> 01:57:34,747
QUESTIONS? 

3550
01:57:34,747 --> 01:57:36,482
>> I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE 

3551
01:57:36,482 --> 01:57:36,783
QUESTIONS. 

3552
01:57:36,783 --> 01:57:37,417
>> ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? 

3553
01:57:37,417 --> 01:57:38,584
ALL RIGHT, I AM NOT SEEING ANY 

3554
01:57:38,584 --> 01:57:40,953
QUESTIONS. SO, AFTER THAT, THEN,

3555
01:57:40,953 --> 01:57:42,555
WHAT I AM GOING TO DO, IS I AM 

3556
01:57:42,555 --> 01:57:43,756
GOING TO MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE

3557
01:57:43,756 --> 01:57:44,557
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNCIL 

3558
01:57:44,557 --> 01:57:53,199
BILL 121213, THE VICTORY HEIGHTS

3559
01:57:53,199 --> 01:57:56,235
SHELTERHOUSE PRE-K. IS THERE A 

3560
01:57:56,235 --> 01:57:56,469
SECOND? 

3561
01:57:56,469 --> 01:57:56,769
>> SECOND. 

3562
01:57:56,769 --> 01:57:58,704
>> SECOND. 

3563
01:57:58,704 --> 01:58:02,675
>> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED 

3564
01:58:02,675 --> 01:58:03,342
AND SECONDED FOR PASSAGE OF THE 

3565
01:58:03,342 --> 01:58:05,244
BILL, NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER 

3566
01:58:05,244 --> 01:58:05,878
COMMENTS. CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

3567
01:58:05,878 --> 01:58:06,078
ROLL? 

3568
01:58:06,078 --> 01:58:06,612
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? 

3569
01:58:06,612 --> 01:58:08,014
>> AYE. 

3570
01:58:08,014 --> 01:58:08,514
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? 

3571
01:58:08,514 --> 01:58:09,315
>> AYE. 

3572
01:58:09,315 --> 01:58:11,884
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? 

3573
01:58:11,884 --> 01:58:13,419
>> AYE. 

3574
01:58:13,419 --> 01:58:13,886
>> VICE CHAIR KETTLE? 

3575
01:58:13,886 --> 01:58:14,120
>> AYE. 

3576
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:14,520
>> CHAIR JUAREZ? 

3577
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:14,754
>> AYE. 

3578
01:58:14,754 --> 01:58:21,727
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE VOTES 

3579
01:58:21,727 --> 01:58:22,328
IN FAVOR, AND ZERO OPPOSED. 

3580
01:58:22,328 --> 01:58:22,995
>> THE MOTION CARRIES, COUNCIL 

3581
01:58:22,995 --> 01:58:24,464
BILL 121213 WILL BE SENT TO THE 

3582
01:58:24,464 --> 01:58:25,398
JUNE 2nd, 2026 FULL COUNCIL 

3583
01:58:25,398 --> 01:58:26,365
MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 

3584
01:58:26,365 --> 01:58:28,201
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO 

3585
01:58:28,201 --> 01:58:29,168
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. CLERK, PLEASE

3586
01:58:29,168 --> 01:58:30,369
READ ITEM NUMBER SEVEN INTO THE 

3587
01:58:30,369 --> 01:58:30,603
RECORD. 

3588
01:58:30,603 --> 01:58:31,637
>> AGENDA ITEM SEVEN -- 

3589
01:58:31,637 --> 01:58:32,638
RESOLUTION 32204 -- A RESOLUTION

3590
01:58:32,638 --> 01:58:35,141
RELATING TO DATA CENTERS -- 

3591
01:58:35,141 --> 01:58:35,775
RECOGNIZING THE POTENTIAL OF 

3592
01:58:35,775 --> 01:58:36,375
LONG-TERM IMPACTS OF DATA 

3593
01:58:36,375 --> 01:58:36,943
CENTERS ON ELECTRICAL GRID 

3594
01:58:36,943 --> 01:58:37,910
CAPACITY AND RELIABILITY, WATER 

3595
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:39,312
USAGE, UTILITY RATES, LAND USE 

3596
01:58:39,312 --> 01:58:40,379
AND DEVELOPMENT, JOBS AND THE 

3597
01:58:40,379 --> 01:58:41,147
ECONOMY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH -- 

3598
01:58:41,147 --> 01:58:42,849
AND REQUESTING ENGAGEMENT AND 

3599
01:58:42,849 --> 01:58:44,083
COOPERATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE 

3600
01:58:44,083 --> 01:58:45,351
IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF DATA 

3601
01:58:45,351 --> 01:58:47,453
CENTER POLICIES AND POTENTIAL 

3602
01:58:47,453 --> 01:58:48,187
LEGISLATION -- AND ANTICIPATES 

3603
01:58:48,187 --> 01:58:54,927
RELATED LEGISLATIVE ACTION. 

3604
01:58:54,927 --> 01:58:56,028
THERE WILL BE BRIEFING AND 

3605
01:58:56,028 --> 01:58:56,329
DISCUSSION. 

3606
01:58:56,329 --> 01:59:02,034
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE BEGIN, 

3607
01:59:02,034 --> 01:59:03,569
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, ERIC, 

3608
01:59:03,569 --> 01:59:04,470
FOR BEING HERE AND WORKING WITH 

3609
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:05,571
OUR OFFICE ON THE DATA CENTER, 

3610
01:59:05,571 --> 01:59:09,075
AND OF COURSE, YOU SAT HERE 

3611
01:59:09,075 --> 01:59:10,042
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, SO YOU 

3612
01:59:10,042 --> 01:59:19,118
HEARD A LOT. I WILL TAKE THE 

3613
01:59:19,118 --> 01:59:20,353
CHAIR'S PRIVILEGE HERE AND MAKE

3614
01:59:20,353 --> 01:59:21,387
A COUPLE COMMENTS, THEN WE WILL 

3615
01:59:21,387 --> 01:59:22,355
GO INTO THE RESOLUTION WHICH 

3616
01:59:22,355 --> 01:59:23,789
AGAIN, WE ARE NOT VOTING ON. AND

3617
01:59:23,789 --> 01:59:25,224
I WANT TO THANK YOU NOT ONLY 

3618
01:59:25,224 --> 01:59:26,692
AGAIN FOR THE POWERPOINT, BUT 

3619
01:59:26,692 --> 01:59:27,560
THE RESOLUTION, AND THE SUMMARY,

3620
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:28,427
AND THE FISCAL NOTE. THE 

3621
01:59:28,427 --> 01:59:30,196
COMMENTS I WANT TO MAKE OUR 

3622
01:59:30,196 --> 01:59:31,764
THAT, IT IS A RESOLUTION AND WE 

3623
01:59:31,764 --> 01:59:32,932
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 

3624
01:59:32,932 --> 01:59:38,137
HER, I DON'T KNOW, SINCE THE 

3625
01:59:38,137 --> 01:59:39,138
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. I AM 

3626
01:59:39,138 --> 01:59:40,139
GOING TO SAVE SOME OF MY 

3627
01:59:40,139 --> 01:59:41,407
COMMENTS FOR WHEN WE ACTUALLY GO

3628
01:59:41,407 --> 01:59:47,747
THROUGH THE QUESTIONS AGAIN, AND

3629
01:59:47,747 --> 01:59:49,549
GO TO A VOTE, BECAUSE I THINK 

3630
01:59:49,549 --> 01:59:51,017
THERE ARE A FEW ISSUES I WILL 

3631
01:59:51,017 --> 01:59:52,585
ASK YOU AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR 

3632
01:59:52,585 --> 01:59:53,719
PRESENTATION THAT I THINK WE 

3633
01:59:53,719 --> 01:59:54,887
PROBABLY NEED TO ADD TO THE 

3634
01:59:54,887 --> 01:59:55,688
POWERPOINT. IN THE RESOLUTION 

3635
01:59:55,688 --> 01:59:57,189
ITSELF -- AND I KNOW YOU WILL GO

3636
01:59:57,189 --> 02:00:05,665
THROUGH THIS -- WE COVER SIX 

3637
02:00:05,665 --> 02:00:06,933
TOPICS, THE ELECTRICAL GRID, 

3638
02:00:06,933 --> 02:00:07,567
WATER USAGE, UTILITY RATES, LAND

3639
02:00:07,567 --> 02:00:08,434
USE AND DEVELOPMENT, THE 

3640
02:00:08,434 --> 02:00:09,468
ECONOMY, PUBLIC HEALTH, AND THEN

3641
02:00:09,468 --> 02:00:11,003
WE HEARD OF A BUNCH OF OTHER 

3642
02:00:11,003 --> 02:00:20,346
ISSUES, AS WELL, FROM PEOPLE WHO

3643
02:00:20,346 --> 02:00:21,480
EITHER WORK IN THE TECH INDUSTRY

3644
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:22,915
-- AND ARE PROBABLY A LOT MORE 

3645
02:00:22,915 --> 02:00:24,584
SAVVY THAN I AM -- AND SO, WE 

3646
02:00:24,584 --> 02:00:25,551
DID OUR FIVE-PAGE RESOLUTION. 

3647
02:00:25,551 --> 02:00:26,953
SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, WHEN

3648
02:00:26,953 --> 02:00:28,220
WE GET THERE, AND I WANT TO 

3649
02:00:28,220 --> 02:00:30,222
THANK YOU, ERIC, IS I DO WANT TO

3650
02:00:30,222 --> 02:00:31,123
INCLUDE, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE 

3651
02:00:31,123 --> 02:00:32,191
IT IN THE RECITALS, TRIBALLY 

3652
02:00:32,191 --> 02:00:33,025
PROTECTED TREATING RIGHTS TO 

3653
02:00:33,025 --> 02:00:34,293
FISH IN WATER AND THOSE 

3654
02:00:34,293 --> 02:00:34,927
PARTICULAR WATERSHEDS AND THAT 

3655
02:00:34,927 --> 02:00:40,600
WOULD PROBABLY BRING US TO SEVEN

3656
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:42,234
EMERGENT TOPICS IN THE RECITALS 

3657
02:00:42,234 --> 02:00:43,603
AND ALSO IN THE SECTION, IN THE 

3658
02:00:43,603 --> 02:00:44,870
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED. SO, 

3659
02:00:44,870 --> 02:00:45,905
WITH THAT, I WILL LET YOU GO 

3660
02:00:45,905 --> 02:00:54,046
AHEAD AND WALK US THROUGH THIS, 

3661
02:00:54,046 --> 02:00:55,748
AND THEN I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES 

3662
02:00:55,748 --> 02:00:57,016
HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. GO 

3663
02:00:57,016 --> 02:00:57,550
AHEAD, ERIC, THANK YOU. 

3664
02:00:57,550 --> 02:00:58,851
>> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I ERIC 

3665
02:00:58,851 --> 02:00:59,685
McCONAGHY WITH COUNCIL CENTRAL 

3666
02:00:59,685 --> 02:01:08,694
STAFF, AT CHAIR, WHAT I WILL SAY

3667
02:01:08,694 --> 02:01:10,029
BACK TO YOU, WHAT I AM HEARING 

3668
02:01:10,029 --> 02:01:11,264
FROM YOU IS THAT MAYBE THERE 

3669
02:01:11,264 --> 02:01:12,565
WILL BE AN AMENDMENT OFFERED 

3670
02:01:12,565 --> 02:01:13,299
THAT WILL CHANGE THIS RESOLUTION

3671
02:01:13,299 --> 02:01:14,100
BEFORE THE ACTUAL VOTE, 

3672
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:15,501
ACCORDING TO THE TOPIC THAT YOU 

3673
02:01:15,501 --> 02:01:16,902
JUST OUTLINED? I WANT TO MAKE 

3674
02:01:16,902 --> 02:01:17,570
SURE I CAPTURED THAT IDEA. 

3675
02:01:17,570 --> 02:01:18,204
>> THANK YOU. 

3676
02:01:18,204 --> 02:01:19,472
>> TWO, JUST KIND OF REORIENTS 

3677
02:01:19,472 --> 02:01:20,606
US TO THE RESOLUTION THAT IS 

3678
02:01:20,606 --> 02:01:21,907
BEFORE US. THERE IS, OF COURSE, 

3679
02:01:21,907 --> 02:01:22,675
THE DATA CENTER MORATORIUM, 

3680
02:01:22,675 --> 02:01:23,943
FOLKS HAVE TALKED TO THAT TODAY,

3681
02:01:23,943 --> 02:01:25,211
THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THIS 

3682
02:01:25,211 --> 02:01:26,212
RESOLUTION, BUT THEY WERE 

3683
02:01:26,212 --> 02:01:26,812
DRAFTED COGNIZANT WITH EACH 

3684
02:01:26,812 --> 02:01:28,047
OTHER, AND ONE LEADS TO THE 

3685
02:01:28,047 --> 02:01:29,215
OTHER. THE DATA CENTER 

3686
02:01:29,215 --> 02:01:32,051
RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD

3687
02:01:32,051 --> 02:01:33,319
RECOGNIZE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE 

3688
02:01:33,319 --> 02:01:37,923
PROLIFERATION OF DATA CENTERS TO

3689
02:01:37,923 --> 02:01:38,557
SPECIFICALLY IMPACT SEATTLE IN 

3690
02:01:38,557 --> 02:01:42,328
REGARD TO POLICY AND REGULATION.

3691
02:01:42,328 --> 02:01:44,196
AND IN THE FACE OF THAT VERY 

3692
02:01:44,196 --> 02:01:45,898
REAL IMPACT THAT COUNCIL IS 

3693
02:01:45,898 --> 02:01:50,569
RECEIVING, IT WOULD -- IT WOULD 

3694
02:01:50,569 --> 02:01:51,637
REQUEST, WITH THE EXECUTIVE, 

3695
02:01:51,637 --> 02:01:52,705
WITH THE MAYOR AND ALL THE 

3696
02:01:52,705 --> 02:01:53,305
DEPARTMENTS, ENGAGEMENT AND 

3697
02:01:53,305 --> 02:01:54,473
COOPERATION IN THAT THE 

3698
02:01:54,473 --> 02:01:56,475
DEVELOPMENT OF DATA CENTER 

3699
02:01:56,475 --> 02:01:57,877
POLICIES, AND POTENTIAL 

3700
02:01:57,877 --> 02:02:01,280
LEGISLATION, TO GOVERN DATA 

3701
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:02,882
CENTERS. AND ALSO, ANTICIPATE 

3702
02:02:02,882 --> 02:02:07,820
SOME RELATIVE LEGISLATIVE 

3703
02:02:07,820 --> 02:02:08,754
ACTION, AND THAT BEING THE 

3704
02:02:08,754 --> 02:02:09,522
MORATORIUM WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT,

3705
02:02:09,522 --> 02:02:11,123
AND WE EXPECT THIS SUMMER, FROM 

3706
02:02:11,123 --> 02:02:21,600
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT, A NEW RATE 

3707
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:23,069
THAT WOULD BE FOR A RATE CLASS 

3708
02:02:23,069 --> 02:02:24,003
FOR DATA CENTERS AND THE 

3709
02:02:24,003 --> 02:02:25,071
RESOLUTION CALLS THAT OUT. SO, 

3710
02:02:25,071 --> 02:02:27,006
THAT IS THE KIND OF HIGH LEVEL 

3711
02:02:27,006 --> 02:02:28,507
AND I WILL STEP THROUGH THE 

3712
02:02:28,507 --> 02:02:29,041
PRESENTATION. SO, JUST TO 

3713
02:02:29,041 --> 02:02:31,210
DESCRIBE HOW DATA CENTERS ARE 

3714
02:02:31,210 --> 02:02:34,313
DEFINED IN THE RESOLUTION, THESE

3715
02:02:34,313 --> 02:02:35,548
ARE FACILITIES PRIMARILY FOR 

3716
02:02:35,548 --> 02:02:40,386
HOUSING, OR CO-LOCATING COMMUTE 

3717
02:02:40,386 --> 02:02:41,520
-- COMPUTER AND COMMUNICATIONS 

3718
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:51,664
EQUIPMENT. THEY HANDLE, STORE, 

3719
02:02:51,664 --> 02:02:52,431
MANAGE, PROCESS, AND BACKUP ALL 

3720
02:02:52,431 --> 02:02:53,933
KINDS OF DIGITAL DATA. AND THEN,

3721
02:02:53,933 --> 02:02:54,734
ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED 

3722
02:02:54,734 --> 02:02:55,434
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NECESSARY

3723
02:02:55,434 --> 02:02:56,602
FOR THOSE SYSTEMS TO COOL THEM, 

3724
02:02:56,602 --> 02:02:59,004
BACK THEM UP, PROVIDE BATTERY 

3725
02:02:59,004 --> 02:03:01,273
STORAGE. JUST AS YOU MENTIONED, 

3726
02:03:01,273 --> 02:03:02,541
CHAIR JUAREZ, THERE ARE A NUMBER

3727
02:03:02,541 --> 02:03:04,310
OF ITEMS THAT ARE CALLED OUT, AS

3728
02:03:04,310 --> 02:03:04,910
POTENTIAL KINDS OF LONG-TERM 

3729
02:03:04,910 --> 02:03:06,278
IMPACTS. MAINLY, THE ELECTRICAL 

3730
02:03:06,278 --> 02:03:07,947
GRID CAPACITY AND RELIABILITY, 

3731
02:03:07,947 --> 02:03:13,452
WATER USAGE, UTILITY RATES, LAND

3732
02:03:13,452 --> 02:03:14,653
USE AND DEVELOPMENT, JOBS AND 

3733
02:03:14,653 --> 02:03:15,654
THE ECONOMY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH. 

3734
02:03:15,654 --> 02:03:20,092
AND LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, 

3735
02:03:20,092 --> 02:03:21,026
TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS TO TRIBES,

3736
02:03:21,026 --> 02:03:22,094
TRIBAL RIGHTS, THAT ARE A PART 

3737
02:03:22,094 --> 02:03:22,895
OF THIS WHOLE PICTURE. 

3738
02:03:22,895 --> 02:03:25,264
>> YEAH, PROBABLY TREATY 

3739
02:03:25,264 --> 02:03:26,098
PROTECTED FISHING RIGHTS FOR 

3740
02:03:26,098 --> 02:03:28,267
SALMON AND WATER, WHICH WILL 

3741
02:03:28,267 --> 02:03:35,174
REQUIRE CONSULTATION, BUT WE CAN

3742
02:03:35,174 --> 02:03:36,175
TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. SO -- 

3743
02:03:36,175 --> 02:03:36,609
>> THANK YOU. 

3744
02:03:36,609 --> 02:03:40,646
>> THANK YOU. AND TO BE CLEAR, 

3745
02:03:40,646 --> 02:03:42,281
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN 

3746
02:03:42,281 --> 02:03:49,188
THE MORATORIUM -- IT IS A HIGHER

3747
02:03:49,188 --> 02:03:50,022
LEVEL, SOMETHING LIKE, THE WORK 

3748
02:03:50,022 --> 02:03:51,524
THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE 

3749
02:03:51,524 --> 02:03:52,458
MORATORIUM WORKPLAN SORT OF 

3750
02:03:52,458 --> 02:03:58,731
TALKS INTO THE NOTIONS THAT ARE 

3751
02:03:58,731 --> 02:03:59,665
IN THIS RESOLUTION. AND SO, 

3752
02:03:59,665 --> 02:04:00,666
IT'S ABOUT DEVELOPING GUIDING 

3753
02:04:00,666 --> 02:04:01,333
POLICY TO SUPPORT POTENTIAL 

3754
02:04:01,333 --> 02:04:06,005
LEGISLATION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE 

3755
02:04:06,005 --> 02:04:07,173
KINDS OF THINGS THAT MAY IMPACT 

3756
02:04:07,173 --> 02:04:08,274
A LAND-USE THAT WOULD GUIDE 

3757
02:04:08,274 --> 02:04:12,077
DECISIONS ON CITY LIGHT RATES. 

3758
02:04:12,077 --> 02:04:12,945
THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GUIDE 

3759
02:04:12,945 --> 02:04:13,779
BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS. AND ALSO,

3760
02:04:13,779 --> 02:04:17,550
DEPARTMENT ACTIONS. HOW THE CITY

3761
02:04:17,550 --> 02:04:19,218
WOULD SPEND SOME MONEY TO WORK 

3762
02:04:19,218 --> 02:04:20,786
WITH, AND USE DATA CENTERS, BUT 

3763
02:04:20,786 --> 02:04:27,626
ALSO, HOW TO, YOU KNOW, MONITOR 

3764
02:04:27,626 --> 02:04:28,427
THESE THINGS GOING FORWARD. THE 

3765
02:04:28,427 --> 02:04:29,795
RESOLUTION DOES NOT LAY OUT THAT

3766
02:04:29,795 --> 02:04:31,063
PLAN, BUT IT DOES CALL FOR THOSE

3767
02:04:31,063 --> 02:04:32,531
KINDS OF ACTIONS TO COORDINATE. 

3768
02:04:32,531 --> 02:04:34,133
YEAH, AND THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE 

3769
02:04:34,133 --> 02:04:39,338
OR MITIGATE THOSE SERIOUS 

3770
02:04:39,338 --> 02:04:40,272
EFFECTS, TO HOLD DATA CENTER 

3771
02:04:40,272 --> 02:04:41,073
OPERATORS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE 

3772
02:04:41,073 --> 02:04:42,208
COSTS AND EFFECTS OF THEIR 

3773
02:04:42,208 --> 02:04:45,845
OPERATIONS, AND IT DOES SAY TO 

3774
02:04:45,845 --> 02:04:46,378
HARVEST AND MAXIMIZE ANY 

3775
02:04:46,378 --> 02:04:47,479
BENEFITS OF DATA CENTER 

3776
02:04:47,479 --> 02:04:48,013
DEVELOPMENT OPERATION IN 

3777
02:04:48,013 --> 02:04:49,014
RECOGNITION OF THAT REAL 

3778
02:04:49,014 --> 02:04:55,654
POTENTIAL. AND I MENTIONED THE 

3779
02:04:55,654 --> 02:04:56,622
ANTICIPATED LEGISLATION, SO THIS

3780
02:04:56,622 --> 02:04:58,290
SLIDE IS JUST TO KEEP US HONEST 

3781
02:04:58,290 --> 02:04:59,091
ABOUT THAT. AND WITH THAT, WE 

3782
02:04:59,091 --> 02:05:05,998
ARE TO THE QUESTIONS SLIDE. 

3783
02:05:05,998 --> 02:05:06,699
HOPEFULLY, I DIDN'T RATTLE 

3784
02:05:06,699 --> 02:05:07,900
THROUGH THAT TOO QUICKLY. I AM 

3785
02:05:07,900 --> 02:05:09,335
HAPPY TO GO BACK AND COVER ANY 

3786
02:05:09,335 --> 02:05:10,369
OF THOSE TOPICS AGAIN, ANSWER 

3787
02:05:10,369 --> 02:05:10,803
ANY QUESTIONS. 

3788
02:05:10,803 --> 02:05:12,371
>> THERE'S TWO THINGS I WANT TO

3789
02:05:12,371 --> 02:05:14,373
SAY, THEN I WILL OPEN IT UP TO 

3790
02:05:14,373 --> 02:05:14,940
MY COLLEAGUES. I THOUGHT I 

3791
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:15,941
FLAGGED IT IN THE RESOLUTION, 

3792
02:05:15,941 --> 02:05:17,176
BUT DIDN'T WE PUT LANGUAGE IN 

3793
02:05:17,176 --> 02:05:18,611
HERE, IN WORKING WITH THE 

3794
02:05:18,611 --> 02:05:19,645
EXECUTIVE? BUT, I THOUGHT THAT 

3795
02:05:19,645 --> 02:05:22,081
WE HAD LANGUAGE IN HERE TO WORK 

3796
02:05:22,081 --> 02:05:26,151
CLOSELY WITH THE EXECUTIVE ON 

3797
02:05:26,151 --> 02:05:31,724
THESE TYPE OF DATA CENTERS AND 

3798
02:05:31,724 --> 02:05:32,758
POTENTIAL POLICY, AND ET CETERA?

3799
02:05:32,758 --> 02:05:34,593
DIDN'T -- WHAT PAGES THAT, ON 

3800
02:05:34,593 --> 02:05:35,361
THE RESOLUTION? 

3801
02:05:35,361 --> 02:05:43,502
>> SO, IT WOULD BE -- I CALL IT 

3802
02:05:43,502 --> 02:05:44,370
BY SECTION, BECAUSE I'M NOT 

3803
02:05:44,370 --> 02:05:45,838
SURE -- WELL, PAGE FOUR AND FIVE

3804
02:05:45,838 --> 02:05:55,247
IN THIS PACKET IS SECTION 2. AND

3805
02:05:55,247 --> 02:05:56,682
I CAN READ IT VERBATIM, IF YOU 

3806
02:05:56,682 --> 02:05:56,882
LIKE. 

3807
02:05:56,882 --> 02:05:58,150
>> OKAY, I SEE IT, NOW. 

3808
02:05:58,150 --> 02:05:59,718
>> IT SAYS, "IN RECOGNITION OF 

3809
02:05:59,718 --> 02:06:00,252
POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF DATA 

3810
02:06:00,252 --> 02:06:01,220
CENTERS AND AS ELECTED STEWARDS 

3811
02:06:01,220 --> 02:06:01,987
OF HEALTH, SAFETY, AND 

3812
02:06:01,987 --> 02:06:02,922
ENVIRONMENTAL WELFARE FOR THE 

3813
02:06:02,922 --> 02:06:03,956
PEOPLE OF SEATTLE, THIS COUNCIL 

3814
02:06:03,956 --> 02:06:05,024
REQUESTS THE COOPERATION OF THE 

3815
02:06:05,024 --> 02:06:05,891
EXECUTIVE ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS

3816
02:06:05,891 --> 02:06:07,059
WITH A TIMELY DEVELOPMENT TO THE

3817
02:06:07,059 --> 02:06:08,260
SPRING LEGISLATION AND 

3818
02:06:08,260 --> 02:06:10,362
DEPARTMENT ACTIONS," AND THEN IT

3819
02:06:10,362 --> 02:06:20,906
TALKS ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT I 

3820
02:06:26,879 --> 02:06:27,713
MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO DATA 

3821
02:06:27,713 --> 02:06:27,980
CENTERS. 

3822
02:06:27,980 --> 02:06:29,415
>> AND YOU ARE RIGHT AND WHAT I 

3823
02:06:29,415 --> 02:06:31,083
DID IS I HAD FLAGGED IT IN THE 

3824
02:06:31,083 --> 02:06:32,184
SUMMARY AND FISCAL NOTE ON PAGE 

3825
02:06:32,184 --> 02:06:33,652
ONE, SO THAT IS WHERE I HAD 

3826
02:06:33,652 --> 02:06:34,453
COOPERATION EXECUTIVE, SO THANK 

3827
02:06:34,453 --> 02:06:35,721
YOU FOR TAKING THAT LANGUAGE AND

3828
02:06:35,721 --> 02:06:36,755
PUTTING IT RIGHT INTO THE 

3829
02:06:36,755 --> 02:06:37,957
RESOLUTION, THAT OBVIOUSLY, WE 

3830
02:06:37,957 --> 02:06:43,095
INTEND TO WORK WITH A LAND-USE 

3831
02:06:43,095 --> 02:06:43,729
COMMITTEE, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE 

3832
02:06:43,729 --> 02:06:44,596
LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, BUT ALSO 

3833
02:06:44,596 --> 02:06:45,531
WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, 

3834
02:06:45,531 --> 02:06:46,599
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT, THE CITY 

3835
02:06:46,599 --> 02:06:48,000
FAMILY, TO KNOW WHAT WE KNOW AND

3836
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:49,201
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, AND THEN 

3837
02:06:49,201 --> 02:06:50,269
FORWARD LOOKING. AND THEN, THE 

3838
02:06:50,269 --> 02:06:51,537
OTHER ISSUE, WELL, THEN, I AM 

3839
02:06:51,537 --> 02:06:52,972
GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO MY 

3840
02:06:52,972 --> 02:06:53,973
COLLEAGUES BECAUSE I KNOW THEY 

3841
02:06:53,973 --> 02:06:55,174
HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I WILL 

3842
02:06:55,174 --> 02:06:56,809
DO SOME FOLLOW-UP. SO, WITH 

3843
02:06:56,809 --> 02:06:59,345
THAT, COLLEAGUES? COUNCILMEMBER 

3844
02:06:59,345 --> 02:07:01,380
KETTLE, DID YOU HAVE -- YES, YOU

3845
02:07:01,380 --> 02:07:02,614
DO HAVE YOUR HAND UP. I AM RIGHT

3846
02:07:02,614 --> 02:07:03,649
HERE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO 

3847
02:07:03,649 --> 02:07:05,017
THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] YOU CAN JUST 

3848
02:07:05,017 --> 02:07:05,217
-- 

3849
02:07:05,217 --> 02:07:05,684
>> HABIT. 

3850
02:07:05,684 --> 02:07:06,685
>> GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER 

3851
02:07:06,685 --> 02:07:07,252
KETTLE. VICE CHAIR. 

3852
02:07:07,252 --> 02:07:08,687
>> YES, VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU, 

3853
02:07:08,687 --> 02:07:15,828
CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, MR. 

3854
02:07:15,828 --> 02:07:16,462
McCONAGHY FOR THE PRESENTATION, 

3855
02:07:16,462 --> 02:07:17,029
AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO 

3856
02:07:17,029 --> 02:07:17,830
ADDRESS THIS PRETTY THINK THIS 

3857
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:20,032
IS SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US, AS A 

3858
02:07:20,032 --> 02:07:22,334
CITY, TO TAKE A STAND, TO 

3859
02:07:22,334 --> 02:07:23,235
UNDERSTAND, WHAT ARE THE 

3860
02:07:23,235 --> 02:07:24,470
CONSIDERATIONS, AND FOR US TO 

3861
02:07:24,470 --> 02:07:26,205
HAVE OUR VOICE, AND TO ECHO THE 

3862
02:07:26,205 --> 02:07:28,874
VOICES OF CROSS THE COMMUNITY 

3863
02:07:28,874 --> 02:07:34,580
HERE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS -- 

3864
02:07:34,580 --> 02:07:35,814
WE HAVE TWO, THANK YOU FOR BEING

3865
02:07:35,814 --> 02:07:38,684
HERE -- AND IT IS SUPER 

3866
02:07:38,684 --> 02:07:47,993
IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SO AND ONE 

3867
02:07:47,993 --> 02:07:49,428
OF THE THINGS, I THINK, THAT WE 

3868
02:07:49,428 --> 02:07:50,763
ALSO NEED TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, 

3869
02:07:50,763 --> 02:07:52,464
GET TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, SOME

3870
02:07:52,464 --> 02:07:53,699
OF WHICH WERE RAISED TODAY, AND 

3871
02:07:53,699 --> 02:07:57,436
HIGHLIGHT, ALSO, SPECIFICALLY, 

3872
02:07:57,436 --> 02:07:58,671
THE DATA CENTERS SUCH AS THE 

3873
02:07:58,671 --> 02:07:59,705
HYPERSCALER, WHICH IS A TERM 

3874
02:07:59,705 --> 02:08:02,975
THAT WAS USED TODAY, 

3875
02:08:02,975 --> 02:08:03,809
LARGE-SCALE, AND THEN THERE WAS 

3876
02:08:03,809 --> 02:08:09,014
ALSO A.I. DATA CENTERS, WITH -- 

3877
02:08:09,014 --> 02:08:10,282
A.I. IN THE SENSE IS ANOTHER 

3878
02:08:10,282 --> 02:08:12,618
VERSION OF LARGE OR HYPER SCALE 

3879
02:08:12,618 --> 02:08:14,119
BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF 

3880
02:08:14,119 --> 02:08:17,756
THE AIP'S TO THIS. REALLY 

3881
02:08:17,756 --> 02:08:19,191
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE 

3882
02:08:19,191 --> 02:08:24,630
IMPACTS, FIRST, TO SEATTLE CITY 

3883
02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:25,864
LIGHT TO THE POINT YOU RAISED IN

3884
02:08:25,864 --> 02:08:26,932
YOUR BRIEFING IN TERMS OF 

3885
02:08:26,932 --> 02:08:29,601
ELECTRICAL POWER AND THE ABILITY

3886
02:08:29,601 --> 02:08:31,003
TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THE

3887
02:08:31,003 --> 02:08:36,642
NEEDS, THE RATES -- BUT ALSO, 

3888
02:08:36,642 --> 02:08:37,609
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO AND 

3889
02:08:37,609 --> 02:08:39,011
MINDFUL OF WHERE WE WILL BE IN 

3890
02:08:39,011 --> 02:08:43,282
THE FUTURE, WITH REGARD TO 

3891
02:08:43,282 --> 02:08:44,383
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. THERE'S A 

3892
02:08:44,383 --> 02:08:45,617
LOT OF PRESSURES ON CITY LIGHT 

3893
02:08:45,617 --> 02:08:46,585
IN TERMS OF TRANSMISSION, BUT 

3894
02:08:46,585 --> 02:08:47,553
ALSO THE GENERATION, WHERE WE 

3895
02:08:47,553 --> 02:08:52,491
GET IT FROM, THE MARKET. SO, IT 

3896
02:08:52,491 --> 02:08:53,325
IS VERY COMPLICATED, BOTTOM 

3897
02:08:53,325 --> 02:08:54,493
LINE. SO, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND 

3898
02:08:54,493 --> 02:08:55,728
THESE PIECES AND I THINK IT'S 

3899
02:08:55,728 --> 02:08:56,962
REALLY IMPORTANT TO KIND OF STEP

3900
02:08:56,962 --> 02:08:58,263
THROUGH THESE ELEMENTS, RELATED 

3901
02:08:58,263 --> 02:08:59,832
TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT BUT ALSO 

3902
02:08:59,832 --> 02:09:02,601
SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES. THIS 

3903
02:09:02,601 --> 02:09:03,735
GOES TO THE QUESTION, OR POINTS 

3904
02:09:03,735 --> 02:09:11,677
MADE, IN THE EARLIER PUBLIC 

3905
02:09:11,677 --> 02:09:13,746
COMMENT AND WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND

3906
02:09:13,746 --> 02:09:14,379
READ IN OTHER LOCATIONS IS THE 

3907
02:09:14,379 --> 02:09:15,614
WATER IN PACKS. AND ON THIS 

3908
02:09:15,614 --> 02:09:17,216
POINT, BY THE WAY, RELATED TO 

3909
02:09:17,216 --> 02:09:18,450
WATER, I THINK IT IS REALLY 

3910
02:09:18,450 --> 02:09:19,585
IMPORTANT, CHAIR, HAS BROUGHT UP

3911
02:09:19,585 --> 02:09:20,352
THE TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE 

3912
02:09:20,352 --> 02:09:21,820
YOU KIND OF TEND TO FORGET, 

3913
02:09:21,820 --> 02:09:26,258
CHAIR, AND WE SHOULDN'T FORGET,

3914
02:09:26,258 --> 02:09:27,926
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE ONLY 

3915
02:09:27,926 --> 02:09:29,228
PLAYERS IN THIS. AND SO, THIS 

3916
02:09:29,228 --> 02:09:30,496
ALSO SEPARATELY HIGHLIGHTS THE 

3917
02:09:30,496 --> 02:09:39,104
NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHO THE 

3918
02:09:39,104 --> 02:09:39,738
STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS, BECAUSE 

3919
02:09:39,738 --> 02:09:40,973
THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF 

3920
02:09:40,973 --> 02:09:41,573
DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. YOU 

3921
02:09:41,573 --> 02:09:43,208
KNOW, AND PART OF THIS, TOO, IN 

3922
02:09:43,208 --> 02:09:44,343
TERMS OF THAT, IS OTHER LEVELS 

3923
02:09:44,343 --> 02:09:45,077
OF GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE THE 

3924
02:09:45,077 --> 02:09:48,147
SYSTEM IS NOT -- IT IS THE 

3925
02:09:48,147 --> 02:09:49,281
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT BUT THE 

3926
02:09:49,281 --> 02:09:50,382
SYSTEM IS MUCH WIDER AND BROADER

3927
02:09:50,382 --> 02:09:51,617
THAN THE JURISDICTION OF THE 

3928
02:09:51,617 --> 02:09:52,885
CITY OF SEATTLE, SO THE WATER 

3929
02:09:52,885 --> 02:10:00,526
PIECES, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN LEADS 

3930
02:10:00,526 --> 02:10:01,627
INTO -- I AM USING DEPARTMENTS 

3931
02:10:01,627 --> 02:10:03,061
AS MY MEANS TO DO THIS, BUT 

3932
02:10:03,061 --> 02:10:03,896
OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND 

3933
02:10:03,896 --> 02:10:05,264
ENVIRONMENT, AND PARKS AND 

3934
02:10:05,264 --> 02:10:10,536
RECREATION. BUT, WE JUST HAD A 

3935
02:10:10,536 --> 02:10:11,236
BRIEFING ON THE ENDANGERED 

3936
02:10:11,236 --> 02:10:12,671
SPECIES LAND DEED ACCEPTANCE 

3937
02:10:12,671 --> 02:10:19,178
ORDINANCE. THE WATER PIECE IS 

3938
02:10:19,178 --> 02:10:20,179
HUGE ON THIS, RELATED TO 

3939
02:10:20,179 --> 02:10:21,446
ENDANGERED SPECIES THAT ARE OUT 

3940
02:10:21,446 --> 02:10:22,414
THERE. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO 

3941
02:10:22,414 --> 02:10:23,482
WALK THROUGH THESE PIECES. BUT, 

3942
02:10:23,482 --> 02:10:31,723
THEN, THERE IS ALSO DEAL. AS I 

3943
02:10:31,723 --> 02:10:32,591
NOTED EARLIER, ON AN EARLIER 

3944
02:10:32,591 --> 02:10:33,826
AGENDA ITEM, I CAME INTO THIS 

3945
02:10:33,826 --> 02:10:35,460
JOB FROM BEING A STAY-AT-HOME 

3946
02:10:35,460 --> 02:10:38,463
PARENT, SO STILL RATHER YOUNG 

3947
02:10:38,463 --> 02:10:39,464
AND I HAVE SEEN THIS TRANSITION,

3948
02:10:39,464 --> 02:10:40,432
THIS EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION 

3949
02:10:40,432 --> 02:10:44,369
PIECE. SO, ON THE ONE HAND, WE 

3950
02:10:44,369 --> 02:10:45,737
PASSED THE EDUCATION LEVY, AND 

3951
02:10:45,737 --> 02:10:48,941
WE SAW WHAT STEELE IS TRYING TO 

3952
02:10:48,941 --> 02:10:53,345
DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE 

3953
02:10:53,345 --> 02:10:54,980
SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ON THE 

3954
02:10:54,980 --> 02:10:55,547
FLIPSIDE, WE HAD AN OLDER 

3955
02:10:55,547 --> 02:10:56,615
GENTLEMAN, AND A LADY -- I 

3956
02:10:56,615 --> 02:11:01,520
BELIEVE FROM AUSTRALIA, IF I 

3957
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:02,154
RECOGNIZE THE ACCENT -- SPEAKING

3958
02:11:02,154 --> 02:11:03,789
TO THIS PIECE, WHICH IS REALLY 

3959
02:11:03,789 --> 02:11:07,693
IMPORTANT, IN TERMS OF, YOU 

3960
02:11:07,693 --> 02:11:08,961
KNOW, WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR 

3961
02:11:08,961 --> 02:11:15,434
YOUNG PEOPLE? AND AGAIN, AS A 

3962
02:11:15,434 --> 02:11:16,768
PARENT OF A RELATIVELY YOUNG 

3963
02:11:16,768 --> 02:11:17,703
CHILD, I SEE THIS ON A REGULAR 

3964
02:11:17,703 --> 02:11:19,371
BASIS. BUT, ALSO, THERE IS ALSO 

3965
02:11:19,371 --> 02:11:20,672
OED IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC 

3966
02:11:20,672 --> 02:11:21,907
DEVELOPMENT, AND I THROW IN OIR 

3967
02:11:21,907 --> 02:11:29,047
BECAUSE OF THE TRIBAL 

3968
02:11:29,047 --> 02:11:29,982
GOVERNMENTS PIECE, BUT WE ALSO 

3969
02:11:29,982 --> 02:11:31,183
NEED TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, 

3970
02:11:31,183 --> 02:11:32,851
AND THE STATE, AS WELL. AS WE DO

3971
02:11:32,851 --> 02:11:34,453
THIS, I THINK IT IS ALSO VERY 

3972
02:11:34,453 --> 02:11:42,427
IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT 

3973
02:11:42,427 --> 02:11:43,195
TRADITIONAL DATA CENTERS AND 

3974
02:11:43,195 --> 02:11:44,396
WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AS WELL. 

3975
02:11:44,396 --> 02:11:45,898
JUST THIS PAST MONDAY, I WENT TO

3976
02:11:45,898 --> 02:11:47,132
A DATA CENTER THAT IS ABOUT 

3977
02:11:47,132 --> 02:11:51,169
EIGHT, 10 BLOCKS NORTH OF WHERE 

3978
02:11:51,169 --> 02:11:52,571
WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND IT IS 

3979
02:11:52,571 --> 02:11:53,805
IMPORTANT TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IT

3980
02:11:53,805 --> 02:11:54,806
HIGHLIGHTS WHAT THESE DATA 

3981
02:11:54,806 --> 02:11:56,041
CENTERS, WHAT THEY HAVE 

3982
02:11:56,041 --> 02:11:58,877
TRADITIONALLY BEEN, WHAT IT DOES

3983
02:11:58,877 --> 02:12:00,045
FOR OUR ECONOMY, WHAT IT DOES 

3984
02:12:00,045 --> 02:12:01,713
FOR OUR SPD, FIRE, OUR FIRST 

3985
02:12:01,713 --> 02:12:05,884
RESPONDERS. BECAUSE THAT 

3986
02:12:05,884 --> 02:12:07,085
LOCATION IS -- SERVES OUR FIRST 

3987
02:12:07,085 --> 02:12:08,987
RESPONDERS. IT ALSO SERVES, FOR 

3988
02:12:08,987 --> 02:12:18,063
EXAMPLE, UW'S, UNIVERSITY OF 

3989
02:12:18,063 --> 02:12:18,697
WASHINGTON'S DIGITAL ACCESS 

3990
02:12:18,697 --> 02:12:19,631
PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE 

3991
02:12:19,631 --> 02:12:20,766
THAT ARE HINDERED IN TERMS OF 

3992
02:12:20,766 --> 02:12:22,034
THEIR DIGITAL ACCESS, SO WE NEED

3993
02:12:22,034 --> 02:12:23,068
TO STEP THROUGH THESE PIECES 

3994
02:12:23,068 --> 02:12:23,835
BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY 

3995
02:12:23,835 --> 02:12:24,870
IMPORTANT, AND THAT EXAMPLE IN 

3996
02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:26,104
TERMS OF THE LOCATION I VISITED 

3997
02:12:26,104 --> 02:12:27,539
ON MONDAY, THIS OFF ALSO GOES TO

3998
02:12:27,539 --> 02:12:28,540
THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND

3999
02:12:28,540 --> 02:12:29,541
ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE THAT 

4000
02:12:29,541 --> 02:12:35,814
OFFICE, HEATS ABOUT FIVE OR SIX 

4001
02:12:35,814 --> 02:12:36,648
BUILDINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, 

4002
02:12:36,648 --> 02:12:47,192
SO THE EXHAUST HEAT IS ACTUALLY 

4003
02:12:47,559 --> 02:12:48,493
RECYCLED, AND IT HEATS, LET'S 

4004
02:12:48,493 --> 02:12:49,461
JUST SAY, HALF A DOZEN 

4005
02:12:49,461 --> 02:12:50,195
BUILDINGS. AND DURING THAT 

4006
02:12:50,195 --> 02:12:51,563
BRIEFING, THEY SAID, "YEAH, WE 

4007
02:12:51,563 --> 02:12:52,464
CAN DO SOME MORE, TOO." SO, 

4008
02:12:52,464 --> 02:12:59,271
MAYBE 10? I DON'T KNOW. BUT, 

4009
02:12:59,271 --> 02:13:00,472
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE 

4010
02:13:00,472 --> 02:13:01,540
REALLY INTERESTING, IT IS LIKE, 

4011
02:13:01,540 --> 02:13:02,741
"HEY, HOW CAN WE GET THE 

4012
02:13:02,741 --> 02:13:03,909
BENEFITS AND AVOID THE NEGATIVE 

4013
02:13:03,909 --> 02:13:05,010
PIECES? HOW CAN WE SQUARE THE 

4014
02:13:05,010 --> 02:13:06,211
CIRCLES?" MY STAFF LIKES TO HEAR

4015
02:13:06,211 --> 02:13:07,846
ME SAY ALL THE TIME. SO, FOR THE

4016
02:13:07,846 --> 02:13:08,680
TRADITIONAL DATA CENTERS, WE 

4017
02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:09,748
REALLY NEED TO WALK THROUGH 

4018
02:13:09,748 --> 02:13:11,249
THESE PIECES ON -- YOU KNOW, A 

4019
02:13:11,249 --> 02:13:12,150
VERY DELIBERATIVE WAY, TO BE 

4020
02:13:12,150 --> 02:13:13,785
SURE THAT WE GAIN THE GOOD 

4021
02:13:13,785 --> 02:13:14,987
PIECES, WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE

4022
02:13:14,987 --> 02:13:16,188
INNOVATIVE PIECES LIKE EXHAUST 

4023
02:13:16,188 --> 02:13:22,928
HEAT HEATING BUILDINGS, THAT'S 

4024
02:13:22,928 --> 02:13:23,895
SUPER IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, I 

4025
02:13:23,895 --> 02:13:24,830
HAVE ALSO BEEN SAYING, CHAIR, 

4026
02:13:24,830 --> 02:13:26,765
YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO 

4027
02:13:26,765 --> 02:13:31,903
TRANSIT, LAND USE, 

4028
02:13:31,903 --> 02:13:32,771
TRANSPORTATION ARE TWO SIDES OF 

4029
02:13:32,771 --> 02:13:34,406
THE SAME COIN, BUT I AM GOING TO

4030
02:13:34,406 --> 02:13:35,674
ADAPT THAT TO SAY, LAND-USE AND 

4031
02:13:35,674 --> 02:13:36,842
CITY LIGHT ARE REALLY TWO SIDES 

4032
02:13:36,842 --> 02:13:38,410
OF THE SAME COIN, AND I THINK 

4033
02:13:38,410 --> 02:13:41,313
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. FOR 

4034
02:13:41,313 --> 02:13:42,014
EXAMPLE, PREVIOUS MEETING, BOTH 

4035
02:13:42,014 --> 02:13:44,116
YOU AND I ATTENDED AS CHAIR AND 

4036
02:13:44,116 --> 02:13:54,459
VICE CHAIR, CITY LIGHT AND 

4037
02:13:54,459 --> 02:13:55,394
LAND-USE COMMITTEE CAN SPEAK TO 

4038
02:13:55,394 --> 02:13:56,128
THESE TOPICS. IT'S REALLY 

4039
02:13:56,128 --> 02:13:57,129
IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 

4040
02:13:57,129 --> 02:13:58,397
LAND-USE AND CITY LIGHT -- SO, 

4041
02:13:58,397 --> 02:13:59,431
THE POINT ABOUT THE MORATORIUM 

4042
02:13:59,431 --> 02:14:00,198
AND RESOLUTION MAKES GREAT 

4043
02:14:00,198 --> 02:14:01,433
SENSE, IN TERMS OF PARTNERING 

4044
02:14:01,433 --> 02:14:02,467
TWO PIECES THAT ARE COMPLEMENT 

4045
02:14:02,467 --> 02:14:06,905
EACH OTHER, BECAUSE WE DO NEED 

4046
02:14:06,905 --> 02:14:08,173
TO WALK IN LOCKSTEP, IF YOU 

4047
02:14:08,173 --> 02:14:09,274
WILL, FROM A POLICY DEVELOPMENT 

4048
02:14:09,274 --> 02:14:10,509
POINT OF VIEW FROM LAND-USE AND 

4049
02:14:10,509 --> 02:14:11,910
CITY LIGHT. SO, FOR THESE 

4050
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:19,084
THINGS, WE SHOULD WALK THROUGH 

4051
02:14:19,084 --> 02:14:19,818
THIS RESOLUTION, ALSO WALK 

4052
02:14:19,818 --> 02:14:20,619
THROUGH THE MORATORIUM PIECE, 

4053
02:14:20,619 --> 02:14:22,220
AND DO SO IN A WAY THAT SHOWS 

4054
02:14:22,220 --> 02:14:23,922
THAT WE ARE TAKING IN ALL OF THE

4055
02:14:23,922 --> 02:14:27,125
DIFFERENT PIECES, YOU KNOW? WE 

4056
02:14:27,125 --> 02:14:27,793
ARE LOOKING TO PROTECT 

4057
02:14:27,793 --> 02:14:28,460
SEATTLE'S FUTURE. GOOD 

4058
02:14:28,460 --> 02:14:29,394
GOVERNANCE IS ALSO A FACTOR, 

4059
02:14:29,394 --> 02:14:30,662
HERE. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT 

4060
02:14:30,662 --> 02:14:40,038
STRATEGIC WANT, PARTICULARLY IN 

4061
02:14:40,038 --> 02:14:41,173
THIS AREA, WE NEED TO HAVE THE 

4062
02:14:41,173 --> 02:14:42,274
STRATEGIC LONGVIEW APPROACH, AND

4063
02:14:42,274 --> 02:14:43,041
THIS GOES FOR THE HYPER, 

4064
02:14:43,041 --> 02:14:43,942
LARGE-SCALE A.I. DATA CENTER 

4065
02:14:43,942 --> 02:14:44,776
SETS, BUT ALSO FOR THE 

4066
02:14:44,776 --> 02:14:45,811
TRADITIONAL DATA CENTER SETS. WE

4067
02:14:45,811 --> 02:14:50,115
NEED TO THINK LONG TERM, IN 

4068
02:14:50,115 --> 02:14:51,283
TERMS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN 

4069
02:14:51,283 --> 02:14:52,083
THESE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND 

4070
02:14:52,083 --> 02:14:53,318
CHAIR, I WOULD JUST NOTE, TOO, 

4071
02:14:53,318 --> 02:14:54,820
IN TERMS OF GOOD GOVERNANCE, 

4072
02:14:54,820 --> 02:14:56,221
THIS TOPIC OF DATA CENTERS ALSO 

4073
02:14:56,221 --> 02:15:00,058
HIGHLIGHTS JUST ANOTHER AREA 

4074
02:15:00,058 --> 02:15:00,725
THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS 

4075
02:15:00,725 --> 02:15:02,561
FACING IN THIS DYNAMIC TIME, YOU

4076
02:15:02,561 --> 02:15:03,228
KNOW, IN DISTRICT SEVEN, WE HAVE

4077
02:15:03,228 --> 02:15:06,598
A LOT OF ISSUES WITH BURIED 

4078
02:15:06,598 --> 02:15:07,632
DIRECT CABLE, WE HAVE ISSUES, 

4079
02:15:07,632 --> 02:15:08,834
YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF POWER 

4080
02:15:08,834 --> 02:15:10,502
PRODUCTION, CLIMATE CHANGE, HOW 

4081
02:15:10,502 --> 02:15:12,237
IT IMPACTS SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. 

4082
02:15:12,237 --> 02:15:17,609
SO, THIS IS A TIME WHEN WE NEED 

4083
02:15:17,609 --> 02:15:18,944
TO HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AND I 

4084
02:15:18,944 --> 02:15:20,412
SAID THIS BEFORE, WE HAD GREAT 

4085
02:15:20,412 --> 02:15:21,313
LEADERSHIP FOR THE SEATTLE CITY 

4086
02:15:21,313 --> 02:15:25,016
LIGHT AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE 

4087
02:15:25,016 --> 02:15:26,651
MAYOR LET WHAT WE HAVE AS A 

4088
02:15:26,651 --> 02:15:27,352
NATIONALLY KNOWN POWER INDUSTRY 

4089
02:15:27,352 --> 02:15:29,721
EXPERT THAT CAN WORK BOTH THE 

4090
02:15:29,721 --> 02:15:30,822
POWER INDUSTRY PIECES, BUT ALSO 

4091
02:15:30,822 --> 02:15:31,857
THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS, 

4092
02:15:31,857 --> 02:15:36,294
WITHIN THE CITY GOVERNMENT, TO 

4093
02:15:36,294 --> 02:15:37,562
ENSURE THAT WE ARE IN THE BEST 

4094
02:15:37,562 --> 02:15:40,365
POSITION. AND, UNFORTUNATELY, WE

4095
02:15:40,365 --> 02:15:42,300
ARE NOT THERE IN TERMS OF THE 

4096
02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:47,939
LEADERSHIP PIECE FOR CITY LIGHT 

4097
02:15:47,939 --> 02:15:48,940
AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE 

4098
02:15:48,940 --> 02:15:50,008
THESE DATA CENTERS ARE SUPER 

4099
02:15:50,008 --> 02:15:51,476
IMPORTANT FOR WHERE WE ARE GOING

4100
02:15:51,476 --> 02:15:56,715
TO BE, LONG-TERM. AND THE 

4101
02:15:56,715 --> 02:15:57,382
DECISIONS MADE TODAY WILL IMPACT

4102
02:15:57,382 --> 02:15:58,950
US IN THE FUTURE AND WE NEED TO 

4103
02:15:58,950 --> 02:16:00,051
HAVE THAT STRONG LEADERSHIP THAT

4104
02:16:00,051 --> 02:16:02,254
WE HAD, TO BE FRANK, IN THE CITY

4105
02:16:02,254 --> 02:16:03,822
WITH RESPECT TO SEATTLE CITY 

4106
02:16:03,822 --> 02:16:05,123
LIGHT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE NOW, 

4107
02:16:05,123 --> 02:16:06,324
IN THE SENSE, IN TERMS OF 

4108
02:16:06,324 --> 02:16:10,462
LONG-TERM. I DO HAVE FAITH IN 

4109
02:16:10,462 --> 02:16:11,129
OUR ACTING GENERAL MANAGER, CEO 

4110
02:16:11,129 --> 02:16:17,202
OF CITY LIGHT, MR. SANTOS. BUT, 

4111
02:16:17,202 --> 02:16:18,236
IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT, YOU

4112
02:16:18,236 --> 02:16:23,475
KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A FULL 

4113
02:16:23,475 --> 02:16:24,543
GENERAL MANAGER FOR CITY LIGHT 

4114
02:16:24,543 --> 02:16:32,784
AND UNFORTUNATELY, CHAIR, WE HAD

4115
02:16:32,784 --> 02:16:34,052
A GREAT LEADER IN THIS, IN THE 

4116
02:16:34,052 --> 02:16:35,720
INDUSTRY, AND HERE, WE ARE. SO, 

4117
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:36,821
I THINK IT IS WORTH NOTING. SO, 

4118
02:16:36,821 --> 02:16:37,756
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR, FOR 

4119
02:16:37,756 --> 02:16:39,224
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO THIS AND

4120
02:16:39,224 --> 02:16:40,825
TO ADD IN THE SPECIFIC SEATTLE 

4121
02:16:40,825 --> 02:16:41,293
CITY LIGHT ISSUE. 

4122
02:16:41,293 --> 02:16:51,236
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR KETTLE,

4123
02:16:51,236 --> 02:16:52,571
MY TRUSTEE VICE CHAIR. SO, I 

4124
02:16:52,571 --> 02:16:53,605
HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS, IF 

4125
02:16:53,605 --> 02:16:54,573
THERE IS ANYTHING TO KIND OF 

4126
02:16:54,573 --> 02:16:55,473
TAKE US OUT? COUNCILMEMBER 

4127
02:16:55,473 --> 02:16:55,774
STRAUSS? 

4128
02:16:55,774 --> 02:17:03,715
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR JUAREZ, JUST

4129
02:17:03,715 --> 02:17:04,382
BRINGING IN AN ATTITUDE OF 

4130
02:17:04,382 --> 02:17:05,617
GRATITUDE FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS 

4131
02:17:05,617 --> 02:17:06,785
BECAUSE THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY 

4132
02:17:06,785 --> 02:17:07,752
IMPORTANT. I'M NOT GOING TO 

4133
02:17:07,752 --> 02:17:09,254
REPEAT ALL OF THE IMPORTANT 

4134
02:17:09,254 --> 02:17:10,188
TOPICS  THE PUBLIC BROUGHT UP, 

4135
02:17:10,188 --> 02:17:10,989
WHETHER IT IS FROM OUR 

4136
02:17:10,989 --> 02:17:11,723
ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION, TO OUR 

4137
02:17:11,723 --> 02:17:13,158
WATER USAGE, TO NOT HAVING AS --

4138
02:17:13,158 --> 02:17:17,862
I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER 

4139
02:17:17,862 --> 02:17:18,997
KETTLE SAID ABOUT REUSING THE 

4140
02:17:18,997 --> 02:17:19,864
HEAT THAT THESE CREATE, AND 

4141
02:17:19,864 --> 02:17:29,708
THERE ARE MORE AND BETTER WAYS 

4142
02:17:29,708 --> 02:17:30,942
TO USE THAT WASTE ENERGY AND 

4143
02:17:30,942 --> 02:17:32,477
MAKE IT GOOD ENERGY, NOT WASTED,

4144
02:17:32,477 --> 02:17:33,144
WITH OPPORTUNITIES. BUT, UNTIL 

4145
02:17:33,144 --> 02:17:34,346
WE CAN UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE 

4146
02:17:34,346 --> 02:17:35,246
STRAINS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE 

4147
02:17:35,246 --> 02:17:38,550
THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT HERE IN 

4148
02:17:38,550 --> 02:17:39,818
THE CITY OF SEATTLE, I REALLY 

4149
02:17:39,818 --> 02:17:40,819
APPRECIATE THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS

4150
02:17:40,819 --> 02:17:42,287
FORWARD SO WE CAN TAKE A PAUSE 

4151
02:17:42,287 --> 02:17:43,722
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THIS 

4152
02:17:43,722 --> 02:17:52,564
RIGHT. JUST DIDN'T WANT TO -- 

4153
02:17:52,564 --> 02:17:53,932
NOT GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT 20 

4154
02:17:53,932 --> 02:17:54,699
MINUTES REPEATING EVERYTHING THE

4155
02:17:54,699 --> 02:17:55,600
PUBLIC COMMENTERS SAID, JUST 

4156
02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:56,067
SAYING, THANK YOU. 

4157
02:17:56,067 --> 02:17:56,935
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

4158
02:17:56,935 --> 02:17:58,136
STRAUSS. ALL RIGHT, I AM GOING 

4159
02:17:58,136 --> 02:17:59,404
TO MAKE SOME CLOSING COMMENTS. I

4160
02:17:59,404 --> 02:18:00,572
DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY

4161
02:18:00,572 --> 02:18:01,706
COLLEAGUES. FIRST OF ALL, ERIC, 

4162
02:18:01,706 --> 02:18:03,174
THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN 

4163
02:18:03,174 --> 02:18:09,347
PUTTING UP WITH ME SINCE 

4164
02:18:09,347 --> 02:18:10,482
JANUARY. [ LAUGHTER ] SENDING 

4165
02:18:10,482 --> 02:18:11,449
YOU LINKS, AND WEBSITES, "HAVE 

4166
02:18:11,449 --> 02:18:12,584
YOU READ THAT? HAVE YOU READ 

4167
02:18:12,584 --> 02:18:13,952
THIS?" SO, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS 

4168
02:18:13,952 --> 02:18:15,320
I PUT TOGETHER AND I JUST WANT 

4169
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:16,554
TO READ THEM INTO THE RECORD, 

4170
02:18:16,554 --> 02:18:17,922
AND I MAY REPEAT SOME OF THESE 

4171
02:18:17,922 --> 02:18:19,591
AT OUR -- IS IT OUR JUDEN THIRD 

4172
02:18:19,591 --> 02:18:20,825
MEETING? AT OUR JUNE 3rd 

4173
02:18:20,825 --> 02:18:30,869
MEETING, AS WELL. AND TODAY, WE 

4174
02:18:30,869 --> 02:18:32,337
HAD 30 ODD PEOPLE AT PUBLIC 

4175
02:18:32,337 --> 02:18:33,071
COMMENT, AND I TOOK COPIOUS 

4176
02:18:33,071 --> 02:18:33,905
NOTES, AND OF COURSE, YOU 

4177
02:18:33,905 --> 02:18:34,873
DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE SAY, "YES, 

4178
02:18:34,873 --> 02:18:35,874
YAY, LET'S HAVE DATA CENTERS." 

4179
02:18:35,874 --> 02:18:36,941
EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED, AS THEY 

4180
02:18:36,941 --> 02:18:38,376
SHOULD BE. AND WE WILL LET THE 

4181
02:18:38,376 --> 02:18:39,611
PUBLIC KNOW THAT WE WILL WORK 

4182
02:18:39,611 --> 02:18:41,012
HAND IN HAND WITH THE LAND-USE 

4183
02:18:41,012 --> 02:18:41,813
COMMITTEE SO THAT OUR 

4184
02:18:41,813 --> 02:18:42,447
LEGISLATION, OUR MORATORIUM, 

4185
02:18:42,447 --> 02:18:43,248
ERIC, THAT OUR LANGUAGE 

4186
02:18:43,248 --> 02:18:44,282
COMPLEMENTS EACH OTHER, THAT WE 

4187
02:18:44,282 --> 02:18:45,116
SHARE THE SAME LANGUAGE 

4188
02:18:45,116 --> 02:18:45,583
RESPONSIBILITIES, AND 

4189
02:18:45,583 --> 02:18:52,957
SENSIBILITIES, AND CHARACTERS OF

4190
02:18:52,957 --> 02:18:53,825
SEATTLE, AND THAT IS REFLECTED 

4191
02:18:53,825 --> 02:18:55,093
NOT ONLY IN THE MORATORIUM, BUT 

4192
02:18:55,093 --> 02:18:56,027
IN OUR RESOLUTION. SO, WE 

4193
02:18:56,027 --> 02:18:56,928
BROUGHT THIS RESOLUTION AND WE 

4194
02:18:56,928 --> 02:19:02,667
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT WITH THE

4195
02:19:02,667 --> 02:19:03,702
COUNCIL PRESIDENT AS A RESULT OF

4196
02:19:03,702 --> 02:19:04,936
THE RAPID INCREASE OF LARGE DATA

4197
02:19:04,936 --> 02:19:06,004
CENTERS BEING BUILT, AS THEY 

4198
02:19:06,004 --> 02:19:07,405
CONTINUE TO ADD TO THE BOOM OF 

4199
02:19:07,405 --> 02:19:15,547
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. 

4200
02:19:15,547 --> 02:19:16,815
INCLUDING WHAT IT HAS DONE TO 

4201
02:19:16,815 --> 02:19:17,549
THE GLOBAL AND NATIONAL 

4202
02:19:17,549 --> 02:19:18,149
MARKETPLACES, PEOPLE MAKING 

4203
02:19:18,149 --> 02:19:19,217
MONEY. THESE DATA CENTERS ARE 

4204
02:19:19,217 --> 02:19:20,318
BEING BUILT IN A RUSH BY 

4205
02:19:20,318 --> 02:19:20,985
ORGANIZATIONS AND COMPANIES THAT

4206
02:19:20,985 --> 02:19:22,954
ARE ONLY, AS WE BELIEVE, SOME OF

4207
02:19:22,954 --> 02:19:27,125
US BELIEVE, CONCERNED WITH THE 

4208
02:19:27,125 --> 02:19:27,992
RACE TO EXTRACT RESOURCES, 

4209
02:19:27,992 --> 02:19:29,060
MAINLY WATER AND SPACE. RAPID 

4210
02:19:29,060 --> 02:19:29,861
DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT FOCUSES 

4211
02:19:29,861 --> 02:19:30,662
ON SHORT-TERM GAINS, WHILE 

4212
02:19:30,662 --> 02:19:31,496
PERHAPS DISREGARDING THE 

4213
02:19:31,496 --> 02:19:32,330
WELL-BEING OF COMMUNITIES THEY 

4214
02:19:32,330 --> 02:19:33,665
ARE BEING BUILT IN. AND AS I 

4215
02:19:33,665 --> 02:19:40,805
HAVE SAID BEFORE, WATER AND 

4216
02:19:40,805 --> 02:19:41,706
THESE OTHER RESOURCES ARE A 

4217
02:19:41,706 --> 02:19:42,807
FINITE RESOURCE FOR ALL PEOPLE. 

4218
02:19:42,807 --> 02:19:43,975
MY OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING AND 

4219
02:19:43,975 --> 02:19:44,943
ALONG WITH OTHER OFFICES AND 

4220
02:19:44,943 --> 02:19:46,010
OTHER LEADERS, ALONG WITH TRIBAL

4221
02:19:46,010 --> 02:19:47,112
LEADERSHIP, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT 

4222
02:19:47,112 --> 02:19:48,279
THESE ISSUES OVER THE LAST YEAR.

4223
02:19:48,279 --> 02:19:50,048
WE HAVE ATTENDED EVENTS HOSTED 

4224
02:19:50,048 --> 02:19:53,718
BY GEEKWIRE, THE NATURAL HISTORY

4225
02:19:53,718 --> 02:19:55,620
MUSEUM, AND NUMEROUS WEBINARS TO

4226
02:19:55,620 --> 02:20:00,558
UNDERSTAND NOT JUST THE 

4227
02:20:00,558 --> 02:20:01,760
TECHNOLOGY, BUT TO KNOW WHAT WE 

4228
02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:03,294
KNOW RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE SEE 

4229
02:20:03,294 --> 02:20:09,100
COMING. WE HAVE TRACKED NINE 

4230
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:10,335
DATA CENTER A.I. BUILDS DURING 

4231
02:20:10,335 --> 02:20:11,002
THE STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, 

4232
02:20:11,002 --> 02:20:12,370
WITH ONLY ONE BILL, SENATE BILL 

4233
02:20:12,370 --> 02:20:13,438
1984 THAT WAS PASSED. I SHOULD 

4234
02:20:13,438 --> 02:20:16,374
ADD -- AND I WANT TO THANK PAUL,

4235
02:20:16,374 --> 02:20:17,242
OUR CLERK, PAUL, FOR ATTENDING 

4236
02:20:17,242 --> 02:20:20,779
THE STATE A.I. WORK GROUP THAT 

4237
02:20:20,779 --> 02:20:22,213
GOVERNOR FERGUSON PUT TOGETHER 

4238
02:20:22,213 --> 02:20:28,820
AND COORDINATED. PAUL HAS BEEN 

4239
02:20:28,820 --> 02:20:29,988
ATTENDING THOSE MEETINGS. AND WE

4240
02:20:29,988 --> 02:20:30,989
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AND ATTEND

4241
02:20:30,989 --> 02:20:32,690
THOSE MEETINGS AND CONTINUE TO 

4242
02:20:32,690 --> 02:20:33,658
LEARN MORE. I'M ACTUALLY VERY 

4243
02:20:33,658 --> 02:20:35,660
HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU, WE

4244
02:20:35,660 --> 02:20:38,997
HAVE SOPHIA SUAREZ IN OUR OFFICE

4245
02:20:38,997 --> 02:20:40,899
ROOM -- IS SHE AT SEATTLE OR UW?

4246
02:20:40,899 --> 02:20:49,441
UW. WHERE PAUL WENT. SHE HAS 

4247
02:20:49,441 --> 02:20:50,708
BEEN WORKING WITH PAUL AND WE 

4248
02:20:50,708 --> 02:20:51,776
ARE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH 

4249
02:20:51,776 --> 02:20:52,811
STAFF MEMBERS FROM THE MEDIA 

4250
02:20:52,811 --> 02:20:53,845
JUSTICE TO LEARN ABOUT THEIR 

4251
02:20:53,845 --> 02:20:55,280
WORK ON THE SUPERIOR COURT CASE,

4252
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:56,314
CALLED "PROJECT BLUE: NO DESERT 

4253
02:20:56,314 --> 02:20:57,549
DATA CENTER IN PIMA COUNTY," IN 

4254
02:20:57,549 --> 02:21:00,218
THE STATE OF ARIZONA. AND THIS 

4255
02:21:00,218 --> 02:21:01,653
IS IN TUCSON, CORRECT, PAUL? 

4256
02:21:01,653 --> 02:21:06,724
TUCSON. WE HAVE BEEN PAYING 

4257
02:21:06,724 --> 02:21:07,892
ATTENTION, AND READING THEIR 

4258
02:21:07,892 --> 02:21:08,626
PLEADINGS, AND SHARING IT WITH 

4259
02:21:08,626 --> 02:21:10,161
THE CHAIR OF LAND-USE, CHAIRMAN 

4260
02:21:10,161 --> 02:21:12,931
LIN. SO, WE ARE GOING TO MEET 

4261
02:21:12,931 --> 02:21:17,202
WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND THE FOLKS

4262
02:21:17,202 --> 02:21:19,137
THAT HAVE BEEN LEADING A LOT OF 

4263
02:21:19,137 --> 02:21:27,512
THE INNOVATION AND OUTLINING 

4264
02:21:27,512 --> 02:21:28,446
PARTICULARLY IN THE CORE PROCESS

4265
02:21:28,446 --> 02:21:29,781
ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND WHAT 

4266
02:21:29,781 --> 02:21:30,415
THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND WHAT 

4267
02:21:30,415 --> 02:21:32,116
THEIR RESEARCH HAS FOUND. IN OUR

4268
02:21:32,116 --> 02:21:42,627
RESEARCH, WE HAVE FOUND THAT 

4269
02:21:48,633 --> 02:21:49,367
THESE DATA CENTERS HAVE THE 

4270
02:21:49,367 --> 02:21:50,134
POTENTIAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY 

4271
02:21:50,134 --> 02:21:51,135
BURDEN OUR COMMUNITY AND IMPACT 

4272
02:21:51,135 --> 02:21:52,003
THE ELECTRICAL GRID BY, NUMBER 

4273
02:21:52,003 --> 02:21:52,804
ONE, FORCING SUBSTANTIAL CAPITAL

4274
02:21:52,804 --> 02:21:53,438
IMPROVEMENTS. NUMBER TWO, 

4275
02:21:53,438 --> 02:21:54,239
CONSUMING LARGE QUANTITIES OF 

4276
02:21:54,239 --> 02:21:55,073
WATER RESOURCES. NUMBER THREE, 

4277
02:21:55,073 --> 02:21:55,874
OCCUPYING LARGE AMOUNTS OF 

4278
02:21:55,874 --> 02:21:56,708
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SPACE.

4279
02:21:56,708 --> 02:21:57,742
NUMBER FOUR, IMPACTING JOBS AND 

4280
02:21:57,742 --> 02:21:58,977
THE ECONOMY THROUGH A BOOM AND 

4281
02:21:58,977 --> 02:21:59,611
BUST EMPLOYMENT AUTOMATION. 

4282
02:21:59,611 --> 02:22:00,812
NUMBER -- ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR 

4283
02:22:00,812 --> 02:22:02,113
-- FIVE, THE EFFECT ON PUBLIC 

4284
02:22:02,113 --> 02:22:03,948
HEALTH BY PRODUCING NOISE, 

4285
02:22:03,948 --> 02:22:05,283
LIGHT, AIR, WATER POLLUTION AND 

4286
02:22:05,283 --> 02:22:06,251
THAT DOESN'T EVEN GO INTO THE 

4287
02:22:06,251 --> 02:22:14,759
WHOLE ISSUE OF WHAT IT DOES TO 

4288
02:22:14,759 --> 02:22:15,827
MENTAL HEALTH, IT DOESN'T GO 

4289
02:22:15,827 --> 02:22:17,028
INTO WHAT IT DOES TO LABOR, 

4290
02:22:17,028 --> 02:22:18,029
PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS. AND 

4291
02:22:18,029 --> 02:22:19,297
ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE 

4292
02:22:19,297 --> 02:22:20,531
HAVE ALL BEEN READING ABOUT THAT

4293
02:22:20,531 --> 02:22:21,799
WE ARE STILL LEARNING ABOUT IN 

4294
02:22:21,799 --> 02:22:22,967
REAL TIME. THIS RESOLUTION SEEKS

4295
02:22:22,967 --> 02:22:24,102
-- ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS THE NEED

4296
02:22:24,102 --> 02:22:25,169
FOR CITY DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE A 

4297
02:22:25,169 --> 02:22:26,437
LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF

4298
02:22:26,437 --> 02:22:27,405
DATA CENTERS ON THE ELECTRICAL 

4299
02:22:27,405 --> 02:22:28,706
GRID, RESIDENTIAL UTILITY RATES,

4300
02:22:28,706 --> 02:22:29,707
LAND AND WATER USAGE, ECONOMIC 

4301
02:22:29,707 --> 02:22:30,909
DEVELOPMENT, THE IMPACT TO 

4302
02:22:30,909 --> 02:22:33,211
TREATY PROTECTED FISHING IN 

4303
02:22:33,211 --> 02:22:39,884
WATER RIGHTS, AND PUBLIC HEALTH.

4304
02:22:39,884 --> 02:22:41,019
WE ARE A CITY OF TECHNOLOGY, 

4305
02:22:41,019 --> 02:22:42,053
THIS RESOLUTION IS FOCUSED ON 

4306
02:22:42,053 --> 02:22:45,356
RESPONSIBLE EXPLORATION OF THIS 

4307
02:22:45,356 --> 02:22:46,858
NEW FIELD, FOR THIS AND FUTURE 

4308
02:22:46,858 --> 02:22:48,259
GENERATIONS. IT IS VITAL THAT WE

4309
02:22:48,259 --> 02:22:51,796
MORE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE 

4310
02:22:51,796 --> 02:22:53,031
IMPACT OF DATA CENTERS AND HOLD 

4311
02:22:53,031 --> 02:22:53,598
DATA CENTER DEVELOPERS 

4312
02:22:53,598 --> 02:22:58,069
ACCOUNTABLE, ALSO THROUGH COSTS,

4313
02:22:58,069 --> 02:22:59,137
THROUGH BINDING COMMUNITY 

4314
02:22:59,137 --> 02:22:59,804
BENEFIT AGREEMENTS OR CONTRACTS.

4315
02:22:59,804 --> 02:23:01,105
WE MUST MAKE SURE DATA CENTERS 

4316
02:23:01,105 --> 02:23:02,874
AND COMPANIES DO NOT PAY THE 

4317
02:23:02,874 --> 02:23:12,617
COSTS, AND AND -- OR, PASS ON 

4318
02:23:12,617 --> 02:23:14,452
THE COSTS, I'M SORRY -- AND 

4319
02:23:14,452 --> 02:23:14,986
LONG-TERM EFFECTS TO OUR 

4320
02:23:14,986 --> 02:23:15,553
RESIDENCE, OUR HEALTH, OUR 

4321
02:23:15,553 --> 02:23:16,287
RESOURCES, OUR WATERSHEDS, OUR 

4322
02:23:16,287 --> 02:23:24,963
PEOPLE, OUR COMMUNITIES. SO, I 

4323
02:23:24,963 --> 02:23:25,997
DID PUT THOSE COMMENTS TOGETHER 

4324
02:23:25,997 --> 02:23:27,198
WITH MY TEAM, WHO HAS BEEN 

4325
02:23:27,198 --> 02:23:28,299
WORKING VERY CLOSELY. PAUL AND I

4326
02:23:28,299 --> 02:23:29,701
WENT TO A GEEKWIRE EVENT WHERE 

4327
02:23:29,701 --> 02:23:30,802
WE LEARNED A LOT, AND BROUGHT 

4328
02:23:30,802 --> 02:23:31,769
CENTRAL STAFF FOLKS WITH US, 

4329
02:23:31,769 --> 02:23:32,870
WHICH WE APPRECIATED. SO, I 

4330
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:33,871
THINK WE HAVE SOME MORE 

4331
02:23:33,871 --> 02:23:36,341
INFORMATION TO INCLUDE AND TO 

4332
02:23:36,341 --> 02:23:36,908
ADD A COMMA TO BOLSTER OUR 

4333
02:23:36,908 --> 02:23:37,442
RESOLUTION, AND WORK WITH 

4334
02:23:37,442 --> 02:23:38,042
COUNCILMEMBER LIN, CHAIR OF 

4335
02:23:38,042 --> 02:23:40,211
LAND-USE ON HIS MORATORIUM, 

4336
02:23:40,211 --> 02:23:42,547
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THIS 

4337
02:23:42,547 --> 02:23:43,047
LANGUAGE DOVETAILS AND 

4338
02:23:43,047 --> 02:23:43,881
COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER, SO WE ARE

4339
02:23:43,881 --> 02:23:51,589
WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE 

4340
02:23:51,589 --> 02:23:52,590
ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT TODAY, 

4341
02:23:52,590 --> 02:23:53,758
THAT WE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT,

4342
02:23:53,758 --> 02:23:55,093
AND I AM SURE WE WILL CONTINUE 

4343
02:23:55,093 --> 02:23:56,294
TO LEARN MORE IN HERE, MORE 

4344
02:23:56,294 --> 02:23:57,128
ABOUT, PARTICULARLY AFTER OUR 

4345
02:23:57,128 --> 02:23:58,329
MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE FOLKS

4346
02:23:58,329 --> 02:24:02,433
FROM TUCSON, ARIZONA. ALL RIGHT.

4347
02:24:02,433 --> 02:24:04,035
WITH THAT, LET ME GET BACK, 

4348
02:24:04,035 --> 02:24:05,436
HERE, IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE?

4349
02:24:05,436 --> 02:24:06,471
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE FOR 

4350
02:24:06,471 --> 02:24:08,973
THE GOOD OF THE ORDER. 

4351
02:24:08,973 --> 02:24:09,807
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS HIS 

4352
02:24:09,807 --> 02:24:10,942
HAND UP? GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER

4353
02:24:10,942 --> 02:24:11,209
STRAUSS. 

4354
02:24:11,209 --> 02:24:16,948
>> YEAH, SORRY, ME, AGAIN. AT 

4355
02:24:16,948 --> 02:24:17,982
PRESENT, AS YOU SAID VERBALLY, 

4356
02:24:17,982 --> 02:24:19,150
AND I HEARD YOU SAY, THE 

4357
02:24:19,150 --> 02:24:27,458
CITYWIDE EASEMENT PARCEL BILLS 

4358
02:24:27,458 --> 02:24:28,493
WERE PRESENTED IN THE OPPOSITE 

4359
02:24:28,493 --> 02:24:29,827
ORDER IN WHICH WE VOTED, BUT I 

4360
02:24:29,827 --> 02:24:30,995
DID NOT CONFORM THAT TO MY 

4361
02:24:30,995 --> 02:24:32,096
VOTING HABIT, SO I'M JUST 

4362
02:24:32,096 --> 02:24:33,197
STATING FOR THE RECORD, I 

4363
02:24:33,197 --> 02:24:34,132
ABSTAINED ON THE INCORRECT BILL.

4364
02:24:34,132 --> 02:24:35,967
I AM ALSO NOT GOING TO ASK US TO

4365
02:24:35,967 --> 02:24:37,235
REVOTE ON THOSE, BECAUSE IT 

4366
02:24:37,235 --> 02:24:42,440
DOESN'T MATTER ENOUGH. 

4367
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:44,108
>> I THOUGHT YOU DID, BUT I 

4368
02:24:44,108 --> 02:24:44,876
DIDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, 

4369
02:24:44,876 --> 02:24:45,476
BECAUSE -- 

4370
02:24:45,476 --> 02:24:46,611
>> YOU ARE ALWAYS GOOD AT 

4371
02:24:46,611 --> 02:24:48,012
TELLING ME WHEN I AM WRONG, YOU 

4372
02:24:48,012 --> 02:24:49,747
SHOULD HAVE. IT WAS ANOTHER GOOD

4373
02:24:49,747 --> 02:24:50,081
OPPORTUNITY. 

4374
02:24:50,081 --> 02:24:53,584
>> IT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN 

4375
02:24:53,584 --> 02:24:54,552
EVERYBODY, BUT, I REMEMBER OUR 

4376
02:24:54,552 --> 02:24:55,753
DISCUSSION ON THE ABSTENTION. I 

4377
02:24:55,753 --> 02:24:56,754
THOUGHT HE WAS ABSTAINING ON THE

4378
02:24:56,754 --> 02:24:58,089
OTHER ONE, SO, OKAY. YOU ARE 

4379
02:24:58,089 --> 02:24:59,257
GOOD FOR THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE 

4380
02:24:59,257 --> 02:25:00,591
IT WILL GO TO FULL COUNCIL. 

4381
02:25:00,591 --> 02:25:02,460
>> YEAH, I WILL TAKE IT UP AT 

4382
02:25:02,460 --> 02:25:07,932
FULL COUNCIL. JUST ASKING, 

4383
02:25:07,932 --> 02:25:09,100
PRESENTERS TO MAKE SURE THAT 

4384
02:25:09,100 --> 02:25:10,468
THEY ARE DOING IT -- IT DOESN'T

4385
02:25:10,468 --> 02:25:10,701
MATTER. 

4386
02:25:10,701 --> 02:25:11,269
>> THANK YOU. 

4387
02:25:11,269 --> 02:25:12,270
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

4388
02:25:12,270 --> 02:25:13,104
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

4389
02:25:13,104 --> 02:25:14,272
STRAUSS. AND I WOULD ALSO ADD 

4390
02:25:14,272 --> 02:25:15,506
IT, AND WOULD INVITE ANY 

4391
02:25:15,506 --> 02:25:16,708
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THE 

4392
02:25:16,708 --> 02:25:21,112
RESOLUTION AHEAD OF TIME IF THEY

4393
02:25:21,112 --> 02:25:22,513
WOULD LIKE TO ADD YOUR NAME AS A

4394
02:25:22,513 --> 02:25:22,814
COSPONSOR. 

4395
02:25:22,814 --> 02:25:23,748
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I WOULD 

4396
02:25:23,748 --> 02:25:25,216
LOVE TO ADD MY NAME AS A 

4397
02:25:25,216 --> 02:25:25,516
COSPONSOR. 

4398
02:25:25,516 --> 02:25:26,451
>> GREAT. LET'S ADD 

4399
02:25:26,451 --> 02:25:27,251
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AS A 

4400
02:25:27,251 --> 02:25:28,319
COSPONSOR TO OUR RESOLUTION THAT

4401
02:25:28,319 --> 02:25:29,554
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH 

4402
02:25:29,554 --> 02:25:31,489
ERIC AND CENTRAL STAFF. AND SO, 

4403
02:25:31,489 --> 02:25:34,759
WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING 

4404
02:25:34,759 --> 02:25:35,827
ELSE TO COME TO OUR COMMITTEE, 

4405
02:25:35,827 --> 02:25:37,762
FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER 

4406
02:25:37,762 --> 02:25:41,966
EFFECTS THANK YOU, ERIC. ALL 

4407
02:25:41,966 --> 02:25:42,800
RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE HAVE 

4408
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:43,901
REACHED THE END OF TODAY'S 

4409
02:25:43,901 --> 02:25:45,103
MEETING AGENDA, AND WE ARE NOW 

4410
02:25:45,103 --> 02:25:46,537
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB, 

4411
02:25:46,537 --> 02:25:53,745
EVERYBODY. GOOD JOB, VICE CHAIR.