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OKAY. WE'RE READY TO GO. GOOD 

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MORNING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR 

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THANK YOU. THANKS FOR JOINING ME

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HERE TODAY. OKAY. SO EARLIER 

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THIS YEAR, I ANNOUNCED A PAUSE 

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ON EXPANDING THE POLICE CCTV 

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CAMERAS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO 

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OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, OR 

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TCC. I DID SO BECAUSE I BELIEVED

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THAT WE NEEDED TO ASK SOME HARD 

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QUESTIONS ABOUT DATA SECURITY 

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AND THE PROTECTION OF CIVIL 

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LIBERTIES, ESPECIALLY IN THE 

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CONTEXT OF A FEDERAL 

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ADMINISTRATION THAT IS TARGETING

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IMMIGRANT, LGBTQ AND OTHER 

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VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. I, TOO, 

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AM OUTRAGED AND HEARTBROKEN BY 

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THE VIOLENCE WE HAVE SEEN FROM 

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THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER THIS

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PAST YEAR. AND MY CONCERN FOR 

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THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE OF 

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SEATTLE, THE PEOPLE WHO I 

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REPRESENT AS MAYOR, MY FRIENDS 

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AND NEIGHBORS AND COLLEAGUES, IS

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A BIG REASON WHY I'VE MADE IT A

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GET THIS RIGHT. I AM ALSO 

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DISTURBED BY ACTS OF VIOLENCE 

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FROM OUR OWN COMMUNITY. WHEN A 

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FAMILY LOSES A LOVED ONE, WHEN 

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SOMEONE MUST LIVE WITH PHYSICAL 

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ATTACK, IT IS THE CITY'S 

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RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO BRING 

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JUSTICE AND CLOSURE. OUR CITY 

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HAS TOO MANY GRIEVING FAMILIES, 

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TOO MANY COMMUNITIES WHO 

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RIGHTFULLY EXPECT CRIMES TO BE 

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SOLVED BUT ARE LOSING HOPE OF 

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THEIR DAY IN COURT. JUSTICE 

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MEANS PROTECTING FROM HARM AND 

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PREVENTING IT. IT MEANS 

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DELIVERING ACCOUNTABILITY 

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AFTERWARD. MY DECISION TODAY 

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STRIKES THAT BALANCE. SO BEFORE 

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I GET INTO THIS DECISION, I WANT

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TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT 

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SO THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING FROM 

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THE SAME FACTS. THE FIRST POINT 

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I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT SEATTLE, 

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RELATIVE TO OTHER CITIES OF 

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SIMILAR SIZE, HAS VERY FEW CITY 

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OWNED AND OPERATED CAMERAS. THE 

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REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, WHICH 

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BEGAN OPERATION ONLY LAST SPRING

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AS A PILOT, STARTED WITH CAMERAS

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IN 62 LOCATIONS IN THREE 

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AURORA DOWNTOWN AND IN THE 

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CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL 

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DISTRICT. THEN LAST FALL, 

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SHORTLY BEFORE I ENTERED OFFICE,

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THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN 

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EXPANSION INTO THREE ADDITIONAL 

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HILL NIGHTLIFE DISTRICT AND THE 

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HIGH SCHOOL. IT IS THIS 

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EXPANSION THAT I PAUSED PENDING 

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THE AUDIT THAT I'LL BE 

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DISCUSSING SHORTLY. I HAVE HEARD

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FROM SEATTLE RESIDENTS WHO 

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STRONGLY OPPOSE THE USE OF THESE

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GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE RAISES 

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ICE. I HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM 

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RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND SMALL 

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CRIMES WHO ARE ASKING FOR THEIR 

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CITY GOVERNMENT TO USE EVERY 

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TOOL AVAILABLE TO HELP KEEP THEM

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SAFE. DURING THIS PAUSE, WE'VE 

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SEEN IN GREATER DETAIL HOW SPD 

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USES CAMERAS, INCLUDING THEIR 

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VALUE IN RESPONDING TO INCIDENTS

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USED TO IDENTIFY A SUSPECT, AND 

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THEY CAN BE HELPFUL IN 

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PREVENTING FALSE 

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IDENTIFICATIONS. I'VE HAD 

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CONVERSATIONS WITH FAMILIES WHO 

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TELL ME ABOUT THE IMPACT OF 

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UNRESOLVED MURDERS, AND THE 

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IMPORTANCE OF CLOSURE AND 

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JUSTICE. CAMERAS CAN STRENGTHEN 

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SITUATIONAL AWARENESS TO DEPLOY 

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INVESTIGATIONS. AT THE SAME 

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TIME, WE KNOW OF EXAMPLES FROM 

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OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE

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THIS KIND OF DATA HAS BEEN 

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MISUSED, INCLUDING WHEN A MEMBER

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OF LAW ENFORCEMENT USES 

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THE DATA THAT THE CITY COLLECTS 

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TO BE USED TO HARM IMMIGRANTS, 

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LGBTQ PLUS PEOPLE OR OTHERS WHO 

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MAY BE TARGETED BY FEDERAL 

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AGENCIES OR OTHER BAD ACTORS. 

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SEATTLE DOES NOT HAVE TO CHOOSE 

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SERIOUSLY. THEY'RE BOTH ABOUT 

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FEELING SAFE AND FREE, SO IN 

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LIGHT OF THESE AND OTHER 

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PAUSED THE CAMERA EXPANSION, I 

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ASKED NYU POLICING PROJECT TO 

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AUDIT SEATTLE'S REAL TIME CRIME

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CENTER WITH A FOCUS ON CIVIL 

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TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSIBLE 

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GOVERNANCE. THEIR AUDIT WAS 

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RECENTLY PRESENTED TO MY OFFICE 

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AND WAS A VERY HELPFUL AND 

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COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW. IT MADE 

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COUNTRY. AND WHILE THEY CAN 

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PUBLIC SAFETY, THERE ARE REAL 

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GUARD AGAINST. IT CONFIRMED THAT

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IMPORTANT GAPS REMAIN. NYU 

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POLICING PROJECT OFFERED A SUITE

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OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO STRENGTHEN

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OUR PROTECTIONS, ENSURE WE HAVE 

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TRANSPARENT POLICIES AND 

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MITIGATE RISK OF IMPROPER USAGE.

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CLARIFYING AND LIMITING THE 

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USAGE OF RBTC DATA, LIMITING 

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UNNECESSARY DATA RETENTION, AND 

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BEING MORE TRANSPARENT WITH THE 

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PUBLIC ABOUT THE USE OF THE 

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SYSTEM AND THE POLICIES THAT 

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GOVERN THAT USE. AND LET'S BE 

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CLEAR, EVEN IF WE IMPLEMENT ALL 

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OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME 

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LEVEL OF RISK WILL REMAIN. RISK 

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IS OFTEN HARD TO QUANTIFY AND 

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CAN NEVER BE FULLY ELIMINATED. 

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IMPORTANT AND RESPONSIBLE ROLE 

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PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. TODAY, I 

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MAKING SEATTLE SAFER BY MOVING 

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TOWARD USING CAMERAS IN A 

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NATION LEADING SAFEGUARDS, WE 

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THOSE WHO COMMIT VIOLENT ACTS 

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ACCOUNTABLE AND PROTECT OUR 

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NEIGHBORS TARGETED BY FEDERAL 

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OVERREACH. THAT DOES NOT MEAN 

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CAMERAS ON EVERY STREET CORNER. 

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CURRENTLY, SEATTLE'S USE OF 

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SURVEILLANCE IS VERY LIMITED 

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COMPARED WITH PEER CITIES, WHERE

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CAMERAS OFTEN NUMBER IN THE 

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THOUSANDS OR TENS OF THOUSANDS. 

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EVEN INCLUDING THE SDOT AND 

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PRIVATE CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN 

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INTEGRATED WITH TCC. THE SCALE 

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OF OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IS 

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EXTREMELY SMALL BY NATIONAL 

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STANDARDS, AND WE MAY WELL WANT 

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TO KEEP IT THAT WAY AT THIS 

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JUNCTURE. THERE ARE GOOD REASONS

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FOR TARGETED DEPLOYMENT OF 

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POLICE CCTV CAMERAS IN AREAS 

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EXPERIENCING PERSISTENT CRIME, 

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COUPLED WITH CLEAR LIMITATIONS 

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ON HOW THE TECHNOLOGY CAN BE 

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USED. I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE 

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THAT THESE ARE NOT FLOCK 

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CAMERAS. OUR SYSTEM IS MANAGED 

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BY A COMPANY CALLED AXON, AND 

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WHILE THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY 

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SIMILARITIES IN THE TECHNOLOGY, 

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I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT 

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AXON HAS A MORE RESPONSIBLE 

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RECORD. AXON WILL CONTINUE TO BE

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A PARTNER IN DESIGNING A SYSTEM 

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FOR SEATTLE THAT MEETS OUR 

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SPECIFIC NEEDS, FITS OUR 

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POLICIES, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH

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OUR VALUES. WITH ALL THIS IN 

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MIND, I AM AUTHORIZING SPD TO 

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MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EXPANSION 

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OF CCTV CAMERAS IN SODO, CAPITOL

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HILL AND THE CENTRAL DISTRICT. 

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THE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS APPROVED

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FOR EXPANSION BY OUR CITY 

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COUNCIL LAST YEAR. THE STADIUM 

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DISTRICT CAMERAS WERE INSTALLED 

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PRIOR TO THE WORLD CUP AND WILL 

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BE TURNED ON IMMEDIATELY. I 

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UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A 

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PRIORITY FOR MANY BUSINESSES AND

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OTHERS IN SOTO AND ALSO FOR 

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COUNCILMEMBER ROB SAKA AS THE 

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REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE,

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WE WILL ALSO INITIATE PURCHASING

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AND INSTALLING THE CAMERAS IN 

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THE OTHER TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, 

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WHICH WILL LIKELY TAKE SEVERAL 

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MONTHS. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR 

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THAT THIS EXPANSION WAS INCLUDED

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IN THE 2026 BUDGET AND DOES NOT 

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DEPEND ON THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW

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UNDERWAY AT COUNCIL. AT THE SAME

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TIME, AND, CRUCIALLY, MY OFFICE 

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AND SPD WILL BE WORKING URGENTLY

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TO IMPLEMENT MOST OF THE 

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RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS AUDIT. 

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WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS POLICY 

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DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION 

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PROCESS WILL OCCUR OVER THE NEXT

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4 TO 6 MONTHS. HERE'S SOME OF 

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WHAT WE'LL BE DOING. SPD WILL 

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COMPLETE AND PUBLISH A PUBLIC 

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DASHBOARD TO REPORT ON TCC 

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USAGE, AS PROMISED IN THEIR 

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INITIAL SURVEILLANCE IMPACT 

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REPORT, SPD WILL COMPLETE ITS 

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OMNIBUS SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY 

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POLICY THAT WILL ADDRESS 

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INTERNAL PROCESSES FOR 

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TECHNOLOGY APPROVAL AND 

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PROCUREMENT. SPD WILL CLARIFY 

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AND STRENGTHEN ITS POLICIES AND 

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PRACTICES AROUND PERMISSIBLE 

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USES, ACCESS CRITERIA AND LOGS, 

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DATA RETENTION PERIODS, REQUESTS

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FROM OUTSIDE AGENCIES, REGULAR 

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INTERNAL AUDITS, AND MORE, AS 

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RECOMMENDED BY THE AUDIT. SPD 

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AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WITH 

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GUIDANCE FROM AN ADVISORY GROUP,

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WILL WORK TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL 

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POLICIES AROUND PRIVATE CAMERA 

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INTEGRATION. USAGE OF THE TCC 

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DURING PROTESTS AND OTHER FIRST 

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AMENDMENT ACTIVITY AND CRITERIA 

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GUIDING ANY FUTURE CCTV CAMERA 

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PLACEMENTS. THIS ADVISORY GROUP 

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WILL INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES 

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FROM SEATTLE'S COMMUNITY POLICE

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COMMISSION, IT DEPARTMENT, CITY 

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COUNCIL, CENTRAL STAFF, SPD, THE

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COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE WORKING 

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GROUP AND POTENTIALLY OTHERS. 

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THE ADOPTION OF CRITERIA FOR 

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INTEGRATING PRIVATELY OWNED 

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CAMERAS WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED IN 

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SEPTEMBER BY OUR OFFICE OF THE 

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INSPECTOR GENERAL, OIG ALSO 

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RECOMMENDED REQUIRING TCC 

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ANALYSTS TO PROVIDE A CASE 

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NUMBER OR JUSTIFICATION EACH 

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TIME THEY VIEW CCTV FOOTAGE. AND

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IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS

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IS ALREADY SPD'S GENERAL 

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PRACTICE AND THAT THEY'RE 

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ACTIVELY WORKING WITH AXON TO 

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MAKE THIS REQUIREMENT A FEATURE 

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OF THE SYSTEM. AND I WANT TO 

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RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER ALEXIS 

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MERCEDES RINCK FOR HER PROPOSED 

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BUDGET ACTION, HIGHLIGHTING THE 

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IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING THROUGH 

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ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM 

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OIG, WHICH SPD CONCURS WITH. I 

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ALSO WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS 

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ABOUT SEATTLE CENTER AFTER THE 

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BITE OF SEATTLE SHOOTING, MANY 

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PEOPLE, BUSINESSES AND VENDORS 

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HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY WOULD 

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FEEL SAFER WITH ADDITIONAL 

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SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN AND 

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AROUND THE CENTER, RECOGNIZING 

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THIS, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 

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PROPOSED A BUDGET ACTION TO 

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EXPLORE ADDING CCTV CAMERAS AT 

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SEATTLE CENTER, WHICH HAS NOT 

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PREVIOUSLY BEEN CONSIDERED AS A 

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HIGH PRIORITY LOCATION. I 

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BELIEVE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT

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WE FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION IN 

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THE AUDIT TO DEVELOP CLEAR, 

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EVIDENCE BASED CRITERIA AROUND 

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ANY FUTURE CAMERA PLACEMENTS 

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CRITERIA, WHICH SHOULD, AMONG 

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OTHER FACTORS, TAKE INTO 

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CONSIDERATION THE PRESENCE OF 

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LARGE PUBLIC EVENTS. A MORE 

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IMMEDIATE OPTION IS TO INTEGRATE

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SOME OF THE MANY PRIVATE CAMERAS

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IN AND AROUND SEATTLE CENTER 

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INTO THE TCC THROUGH THE CONNECT

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SEATTLE PROGRAM, AND WE KNOW 

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THAT SOME TENANTS OF SEATTLE 

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CENTER HAVE EXPRESSED AN 

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INTEREST IN THIS. I WILL 

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ENCOURAGE SPD AND SEATTLE CENTER

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TO WORK TOGETHER TO LAY THE 

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FOUNDATION FOR PRIVATE CAMERA 

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INTEGRATION SO THAT WE CAN 

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PURSUE THIS PATH. ONCE WE HAVE 

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PUT IN PLACE STRONGER AND 

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CLEARER POLICIES GOVERNING 

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CONNECT SEATTLE. AND I WANT TO 

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BE CLEAR, THIS WILL NOT MEAN 

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THAT TCC OPERATORS WILL 

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PASSIVELY MODERATE MONITOR 

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SEATTLE CENTER ACTIVITIES, BUT 

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IT WILL MEAN THAT IF AN INCIDENT

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OCCURS, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO 

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VIEW FOOTAGE FROM THE CONNECTED 

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CAMERAS IN REAL TIME, JUST AS 

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THEY WOULD SPD'S OWN CCTV 

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CAMERAS. SO THE DECISIONS THAT 

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HAVE ANNOUNCED TODAY WERE NOT 

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TAKEN LIGHTLY. I'VE HEARD AN 

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AWFUL LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT 

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CAMERAS OVER THE COURSE OF THIS 

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YEAR, FROM PEOPLE IN 

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NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES 

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ACROSS OUR CITY. I AM DEDICATED 

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TO MAKING SEATTLE THE SAFEST BIG

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CITY IN THE COUNTRY, SAFE FROM 

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GUN VIOLENCE AND SERIOUS CRIME, 

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AND SAFE FROM AUTHORITARIANISM, 

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FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 

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THAT IS WHY I ORDERED THIS AUDIT

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MONTHS AGO AND WHY I AM TAKING 

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THESE STEPS TODAY TOWARD THE 

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SAFETY THAT EVERYONE IN OUR CITY

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DESERVES. WHILE WE DO THE WORK 

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TO IMPLEMENT THE AUDIT 

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RECOMMENDATIONS. ALSO KNOW THAT 

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THIS IS NOT THE ONLY EVALUATION 

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UNDERWAY. OIG, IN COLLABORATION 

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WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF 

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PENNSYLVANIA, IS IN THE PROCESS 

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OF ASSESSING THE EFFICACY OF THE

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TCC AND WHETHER THE STATED 

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PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE BEING 

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ACHIEVED. UPENN IS EVALUATING 

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THE CITY'S THEORIES THAT TCC 

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WOULD BOLSTER POLICE 

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EFFECTIVENESS IN PUBLIC PLACES 

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WHERE CRIME IS CONCENTRATED, 

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DETER CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR WHEN 

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PUBLIC NOTICE OF CAMERAS IS 

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POSTED, AND GATHER EVIDENCE TO 

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HOLD OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE, THAT

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WORK WILL BE COMPLETED NEXT 

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YEAR. I EAGERLY AWAIT THESE 

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RESULTS BECAUSE I WANT THE 

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INVESTMENTS THAT WE MAKE AS A 

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CITY TO BE AN EFFECTIVE AND 

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EFFICIENT USE OF PUBLIC 

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RESOURCES. THE QUESTION WAS 

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NEVER SIMPLY WHETHER CAMERAS ARE

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GOOD OR BAD. THE QUESTION IS HOW

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WE CAN USE THIS TECHNOLOGY IN A 

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TARGETED WAY THAT CONTRIBUTES TO

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PUBLIC SAFETY, WHILE PROTECTING 

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SEATTLE'S VALUES AROUND PRIVACY

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AND CIVIL LIBERTIES. SEATTLE HAS

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A UNIQUE HISTORY OF STRONGLY 

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LIMITING POLICE POWERS, DATING 

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BACK ALL THE WAY TO OUR 1979 

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INTELLIGENCE ORDINANCE, WHICH 

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WAS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THE

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COUNTRY AFTER SPD WAS FOUND TO 

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BE COMPILING FILES ON PEACEFUL 

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ACTIVISTS. AND WE INTEND TO 

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CONTINUE THAT HISTORY OF CAREFUL

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CHECKS ON POLICE SURVEILLANCE. 

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IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK NYU 

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POLICING PROJECT FOR THEIR WORK 

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ON THIS AUDIT. I WANT TO THANK 

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SPD AND PARTICULARLY THE STAFF 

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AT THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER 

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FOR THEIR FULL COOPERATION AND 

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PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU TO ALL 

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THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE 

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ASKED HARD QUESTIONS, SHARED 

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THEIR VIEWPOINTS AND THEIR 

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OPINIONS, A WIDE VARIETY OF 

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OPINIONS, OFTEN STRONGLY HELD. 

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AND THANK YOU TO OUR 

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ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS, 

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SPECIFICALLY OIG AND CPC, WHO 

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HAVE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THIS. 

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IN THIS PROCESS. AND I'M GLAD 

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HERE TODAY TO BE JOINED BY BILLY

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HETHERINGTON FROM LABOR'S 242, 

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MONTY ANDERSON FROM THE BUILDING

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TRADES, LISA HOWARD FROM THE 

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PIONEER SQUARE ALLIANCE, GABRIEL

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NEWMAN FROM THE GREATER SEATTLE 

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BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. AND NOW I 

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WILL TURN IT OVER TO INTERIM 

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POLICE CHIEF SALES. 

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-- THANK YOU, MAYOR WILSON. GOOD

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MORNING EVERYONE. NEXT PRESS 

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CONFERENCE WILL BE OUTSIDE. SO I

447
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DON'T SWEAT AS MUCH. THANK YOU,

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MAYOR WILSON. THE NYU POLICING 

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PROJECT FOR ITS CAREFUL REVIEW 

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OF THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER 

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AND THE CCTV SYSTEM, AND TO THE 

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MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO 

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RIGHTFULLY ASKED HARD QUESTIONS 

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ABOUT THIS POWERFUL TOOL. THOSE 

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QUESTIONS MADE THE WORK BETTER. 

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PUBLIC TRUST IS SOMETHING WE 

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EARN EVERY DAY. WE WILL NEVER 

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TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. TO THOSE 

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WORRIED ABOUT PRIVACY, ABOUT OUR

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MOST VULNERABLE AND IMMIGRANT 

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NEIGHBORHOODS BEING TARGETED, OR

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ABOUT ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE. I 

463
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HEAR YOU. LIKE YOU, I GET 

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FRUSTRATED WHEN I HEAR OF 

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GOVERNMENT AGENCIES MISUSING 

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CAMERA TECHNOLOGY. THAT IS NOT 

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WHO WE ARE, AND IT IS NOT HOW 

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THESE CAMERA CAMERAS WILL BE 

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USED. OUR COMMITMENT IS 

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CONCRETE, CLEAR SAFEGUARDS ON 

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HOW THE SYSTEM IS USED. REGULAR 

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AUDITING, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND 

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NOTICE BEFORE ANY CAMERA 

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EXPANSION. ONGOING PARTNERSHIP 

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WITH TECHNOLOGY AND CIVIL 

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LIBERTIES GROUPS SINCE OUR REAL 

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TIME CRIME CENTER WENT LIVE IN A

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LIMITED CAPACITY IN APRIL OF 

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2025, IT HAS PLAYED A ROLE IN 

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HUNDREDS OF INVESTIGATIONS. OUR 

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ANALYSTS HAVE HELPED TRACK 

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HOMICIDE SUSPECTS, RECOVER 

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STOLEN PROPERTY AND FIND PEOPLE 

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WHO ARE MISSING AND IN DANGER 

485
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THIS SUMMER, AS HUNDREDS OF 

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THOUSANDS OF SOCCER FANS AND 

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VISITORS FILLED OUR STREETS, THE

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STADIUM DISTRICT CAMERAS WERE 

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ON. IN JUNE. WE HAD ZERO 

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HOMICIDES. I WON'T CREDIT THE 

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CAMERAS ALONE, BUT THEY HELPED 

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OUR OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES 

493
00:15:58,524 --> 00:16:00,225
TREMENDOUSLY. LAST YEAR, THE 

494
00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:01,994
DEPARTMENT COMPLETED A 13 YEAR 

495
00:16:01,994 --> 00:16:04,897
FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE, 

496
00:16:04,897 --> 00:16:05,531
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY 

497
00:16:05,531 --> 00:16:07,900
ARE NOW NEW, ARE NOT NEW WORDS 

498
00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:09,668
FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE 

499
00:16:09,668 --> 00:16:12,571
STANDARD. WE HAVE TO. AND THE 

500
00:16:12,571 --> 00:16:16,842
STANDARD WE WILL KEEP I'VE 

501
00:16:16,842 --> 00:16:19,044
SERVED THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE AND

502
00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:21,013
SO DO OUR OFFICERS. THANK YOU 

503
00:16:21,013 --> 00:16:22,948
FOR YOUR TRUST AND THANK YOU FOR

504
00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:30,189
HOLDING US TO IT. THANK YOU 

505
00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:31,623
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. INTERIM 

506
00:16:31,623 --> 00:16:33,125
CHIEF SALES. AND WITH THAT, WE 

507
00:16:33,125 --> 00:16:34,226
ARE READY TO TAKE SOME 

508
00:16:34,226 --> 00:16:36,962
QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE. 

509
00:16:36,962 --> 00:16:39,298
-- YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT

510
00:16:39,298 --> 00:16:39,932
A COUPLE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS 

511
00:16:39,932 --> 00:16:43,769
IN THE REPORT THAT YOU DIDN'T 

512
00:16:43,769 --> 00:16:44,903
MENTION. TWO IN PARTICULAR, I 

513
00:16:44,903 --> 00:16:47,439
WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE 

514
00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:48,006
RECOMMENDATION TO REQUIRE A 

515
00:16:48,006 --> 00:16:49,975
SUBPOENA FOR RETROSPECTIVE 

516
00:16:49,975 --> 00:16:50,576
INVESTIGATIONS AS OPPOSED TO, 

517
00:16:50,576 --> 00:16:52,311
YOU KNOW, INCIDENTS THAT ARE 

518
00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:55,347
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. AND THEN 

519
00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:57,916
ALSO ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION 

520
00:16:57,916 --> 00:16:58,517
ABOUT WHETHER TO TO BASICALLY 

521
00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:01,487
FIGURE OUT WHETHER TO USE OF 

522
00:17:01,487 --> 00:17:03,856
ROTC FOR LOWER LEVEL INCIDENTS. 

523
00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,392
SO FOR, FOR LOW LEVEL 

524
00:17:06,392 --> 00:17:06,959
MISDEMEANORS AS OPPOSED TO 

525
00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:07,393
FELONY. 

526
00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:09,395
-- YEAH. SO ON THE FIRST 

527
00:17:09,395 --> 00:17:09,995
QUESTION, MY UNDERSTANDING IS 

528
00:17:09,995 --> 00:17:13,932
THAT SPD DOES NOT USE THE ROTC 

529
00:17:13,932 --> 00:17:15,000
FOR IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE A 

530
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,201
WARRANT WOULD BE REQUIRED. SO 

531
00:17:16,201 --> 00:17:19,671
THEY'RE NOT DOING RETROSPECTIVE

532
00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:21,840
TRACKING OF INDIVIDUALS. I MEAN,

533
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,242
I, I THINK THAT IF AND I THINK 

534
00:17:23,242 --> 00:17:24,777
WHAT THE AUDIT RIGHTLY POINTS 

535
00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:25,911
OUT IS THAT IF THERE WAS A 

536
00:17:25,911 --> 00:17:27,880
REALLY SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF 

537
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,315
THE CAMERA NETWORK, THEN THAT 

538
00:17:30,315 --> 00:17:30,949
COULD BECOME MORE OF A CONCERN. 

539
00:17:30,949 --> 00:17:31,917
AND WE'RE GOING TO REMAIN IN 

540
00:17:31,917 --> 00:17:33,485
CONVERSATION WITH SPD ABOUT 

541
00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:34,753
THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THE 

542
00:17:34,753 --> 00:17:39,258
AUDITS. FLAGS ON THAT FRONT ON 

543
00:17:39,258 --> 00:17:41,026
SORRY. THE OTHER ONE WAS, OH, 

544
00:17:41,026 --> 00:17:41,960
WHAT TYPES OF CRIMES. YEAH, 

545
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,762
YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK I'M REALLY

546
00:17:43,762 --> 00:17:45,964
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OIG 

547
00:17:45,964 --> 00:17:46,765
REPORT NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS GOING

548
00:17:46,765 --> 00:17:49,034
TO GIVE US THAT FULLER PICTURE 

549
00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:50,536
OF HOW THE RCTC IS BEING USED 

550
00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:52,404
FOR WHAT RANGE OF INCIDENTS AND 

551
00:17:52,404 --> 00:17:56,341
CRIMES AND WHAT RESULTS WE THINK

552
00:17:56,341 --> 00:17:56,875
WE'RE GETTING FROM IT. 

553
00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:58,610
-- MAYOR, ONE OF THE 

554
00:17:58,610 --> 00:17:59,211
RECOMMENDATIONS TO WAS ASKING 

555
00:17:59,211 --> 00:18:00,446
SPD TO HAVE A WARRANT IN ORDER 

556
00:18:00,446 --> 00:18:02,181
FOR THEM, LIKE A SEARCH WARRANT,

557
00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:02,848
FOR THEM TO USE THE CAMERAS. DID

558
00:18:02,848 --> 00:18:05,184
YOU CONSIDER THAT AT ALL AS 

559
00:18:05,184 --> 00:18:05,384
WELL? 

560
00:18:05,384 --> 00:18:06,685
-- YEAH. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT

561
00:18:06,685 --> 00:18:07,886
WHAT AMY WAS JUST REFERRING TO 

562
00:18:07,886 --> 00:18:11,890
HERE. SO AGAIN, CURRENTLY SPD IS

563
00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:13,492
NOT USING THE REAL TIME CRIME 

564
00:18:13,492 --> 00:18:15,427
CENTER IN SITUATIONS THAT WOULD 

565
00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:16,028
REQUIRE POTENTIALLY REQUIRE A 

566
00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:18,096
WARRANT 

567
00:18:18,096 --> 00:18:19,064
-- I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE 

568
00:18:19,064 --> 00:18:20,666
MAYOR AND CHIEF SALES. BUT FOR 

569
00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:21,900
THE MAYOR IT'S THE REPORT. 

570
00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:22,901
ALTHOUGH THEY DIDN'T GO ON THE 

571
00:18:22,901 --> 00:18:24,603
EFFICACY, THEY DID SAY THAT THE 

572
00:18:24,603 --> 00:18:26,138
BENEFITS ARE THIN WITH THE 

573
00:18:26,138 --> 00:18:28,240
CAMERAS ON THERE. AND THEN ALL 

574
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,641
THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY 

575
00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:31,443
GAVE, WHY NOT DO THE 

576
00:18:31,443 --> 00:18:33,745
RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL THE REPORTS

577
00:18:33,745 --> 00:18:35,948
FOR OR THE GETTING WRITTEN 

578
00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:37,516
LANGUAGE FOR INFORMAL POLICIES 

579
00:18:37,516 --> 00:18:38,817
BEFORE DOING THE EXPANSION? 

580
00:18:38,817 --> 00:18:41,220
-- SO MY ASSESSMENT IS THAT 

581
00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:42,287
WHILE WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME 

582
00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:43,922
WORK TO DO TO FILL THE GAPS THAT

583
00:18:43,922 --> 00:18:45,858
EXIST IN THE SYSTEM, TO BE 

584
00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:46,425
REALLY TRANSPARENT WITH THE 

585
00:18:46,425 --> 00:18:47,726
PUBLIC ABOUT HOW WE'RE USING THE

586
00:18:47,726 --> 00:18:50,896
CAMERAS AND WHY THAT THERE IS 

587
00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:52,164
NOT, IN MY MIND, BASED ON THIS 

588
00:18:52,164 --> 00:18:55,134
AUDIT, A REALLY BIG, REALLY BIG 

589
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,368
GAPS THAT LIKE TELL US THAT WE 

590
00:18:56,368 --> 00:18:57,903
ARE WORRIED THAT THIS DATA COULD

591
00:18:57,903 --> 00:18:59,204
BE MISUSED IN THE NEXT FIVE 

592
00:18:59,204 --> 00:19:00,506
MONTHS, OR THAT THIS DATA COULD 

593
00:19:00,506 --> 00:19:03,442
FALL INTO THE HANDS OF FEDERAL 

594
00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:04,910
AGENCIES. AND SO WITH THAT, I'VE

595
00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:06,979
DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

596
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:08,847
EXPANSION AT THE SAME TIME AS WE

597
00:19:08,847 --> 00:19:09,314
ARE IMPLEMENTING THE 

598
00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:10,516
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE AUDIT, 

599
00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:12,718
WHICH WE BELIEVE IS GOING TO 

600
00:19:12,718 --> 00:19:13,318
TAKE THE NEXT 4 TO 6 MONTHS. 

601
00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:16,455
-- AND THEN FOR CHIEF. 

602
00:19:16,455 --> 00:19:17,890
-- SALES IN THE REPORT, IT SAID 

603
00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:20,459
THAT FOR A FIRST INFRACTION IS 

604
00:19:20,459 --> 00:19:21,827
PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE FOR 

605
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,362
MISUSE OF THE CAMERAS. THE FIRST

606
00:19:23,362 --> 00:19:24,630
INFRACTION WOULD JUST BE, I 

607
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:27,332
THINK IT WAS A VERBAL REPRIMAND.

608
00:19:27,332 --> 00:19:29,535
IF AN OFFICER WAS USING THE 

609
00:19:29,535 --> 00:19:32,171
CAMERAS, AS MANY OTHER OFFICERS 

610
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:33,472
ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE USED 

611
00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:35,741
THEM FOR, LIKE STALKING INTIMATE

612
00:19:35,741 --> 00:19:36,975
PARTNERS ON THEIR. IS THAT JUST 

613
00:19:36,975 --> 00:19:38,544
A WRITTEN REPRIMAND OR IS THAT A

614
00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:39,945
FIRABLE OFFENSE? 

615
00:19:39,945 --> 00:19:41,180
-- THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 

616
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:42,814
THE UNIQUE THING WE HAVE HERE AT

617
00:19:42,814 --> 00:19:44,182
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUR

618
00:19:44,182 --> 00:19:45,551
ANALYSTS ARE THE ONES THAT 

619
00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:47,019
CONTROL THE CAMERAS. OUR 

620
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:48,854
OFFICERS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO 

621
00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,222
THE CAMERAS. SO THAT IS 

622
00:19:50,222 --> 00:19:50,822
SOMETHING THAT THAT'S THAT 

623
00:19:50,822 --> 00:19:51,623
SAFEGUARD THAT WE PUT IN PLACE 

624
00:19:51,623 --> 00:19:54,393
TO PREVENT THAT. BUT IF THERE 

625
00:19:54,393 --> 00:19:55,360
WERE INCIDENT, WE CAN NEVER SAY 

626
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:56,628
NEVER, BUT THAT THERE WAS AN 

627
00:19:56,628 --> 00:19:58,096
INCIDENT. IT IS PROGRESSIVE 

628
00:19:58,096 --> 00:19:58,997
DISCIPLINE. AS THE CHIEF OF 

629
00:19:58,997 --> 00:20:00,933
POLICE, I CAN GO UP AND DOWN 

630
00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:02,201
THAT SCALE. YOU DO START AT A 

631
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:05,370
WRITTEN, BUT I CAN GO UP THE 

632
00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:07,105
SCALE AND WORK WITH THE OPA 

633
00:20:07,105 --> 00:20:07,973
DIRECTOR IN REGARDS TO THAT AND 

634
00:20:07,973 --> 00:20:10,242
LET THEM DO THEIR INVESTIGATION.

635
00:20:10,242 --> 00:20:11,410
BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR ANALYSTS ARE 

636
00:20:11,410 --> 00:20:13,312
THE ONES THAT'S RUNNING THAT 

637
00:20:13,312 --> 00:20:14,713
CAMERA SYSTEM. I HAVE NICK 

638
00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:16,682
ZUKOWSKI WITH ME. SO TECHNICAL 

639
00:20:16,682 --> 00:20:17,916
QUESTIONS WITH THAT. HE CAN 

640
00:20:17,916 --> 00:20:19,318
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT OUR 

641
00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:20,786
OFFICERS DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS 

642
00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:22,287
TO GO IN AND MANIPULATE THE 

643
00:20:22,287 --> 00:20:22,554
CAMERAS. 

644
00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:23,722
-- TIM. 

645
00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:26,224
-- THIS ONE'S FOR CHIEF SALES 

646
00:20:26,224 --> 00:20:28,727
TO HAS SPD IDENTIFIED ANY 

647
00:20:28,727 --> 00:20:29,328
SPECIFIC INVESTIGATIONS WHERE 

648
00:20:29,328 --> 00:20:31,730
THE LACK OF CCTV FOOTAGE 

649
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:32,698
PREVENTED YOU FROM SOLVING A 

650
00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:35,801
CRIME OR EVEN IDENTIFYING A 

651
00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:37,536
SUSPECT? AND IF SO, WILL THOSE 

652
00:20:37,536 --> 00:20:39,071
EXAMPLES BE MADE PUBLIC? 

653
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,272
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 

654
00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:41,573
I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS 

655
00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:44,176
SOMETIMES WE GET CAUGHT INTO THE

656
00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:46,011
THE NOTION THAT WE NEED CAMERAS 

657
00:20:46,011 --> 00:20:47,613
TO SOLVE CRIMES. I THINK IT'S A

658
00:20:47,613 --> 00:20:51,483
TOOL WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE 

659
00:20:51,483 --> 00:20:52,117
HAVE, ALSO UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE

660
00:20:52,117 --> 00:20:54,219
TO INVESTIGATE CRIMES. THE WAY 

661
00:20:54,219 --> 00:20:54,720
WE STARTED POLICING AND 

662
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,887
INVESTIGATE THOSE CRIMES. 

663
00:20:55,887 --> 00:20:56,922
THAT'S SOMETHING I MAY LOOK 

664
00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,557
INTO, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST 

665
00:20:58,557 --> 00:21:00,459
THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO

666
00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:01,560
USE THE CAMERAS, AND WE'RE GOING

667
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,996
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FURTHER 

668
00:21:03,996 --> 00:21:05,330
INVESTIGATIONS AND FUTURE 

669
00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:05,697
INVESTIGATIONS. 

670
00:21:05,697 --> 00:21:07,399
-- SO SPD HASN'T IDENTIFIED ANY

671
00:21:07,399 --> 00:21:08,867
CASES AT ALL WHERE THE LACK OF 

672
00:21:08,867 --> 00:21:10,802
FOOTAGE PREVENTED YOU GUYS FROM 

673
00:21:10,802 --> 00:21:12,170
SOLVING A CASE OR IDENTIFYING A 

674
00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:13,405
SUSPECT. ZERO CASES. 

675
00:21:13,405 --> 00:21:15,273
-- WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THAT.

676
00:21:15,273 --> 00:21:17,242
MY GOAL WAS TO WORK IN 

677
00:21:17,242 --> 00:21:18,210
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MAYOR'S 

678
00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:19,778
OFFICE SO WE CAN PUSH THIS 

679
00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:20,779
ACROSS THE GOAL LINE, AND 

680
00:21:20,779 --> 00:21:22,381
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT 

681
00:21:22,381 --> 00:21:23,048
NOW. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 

682
00:21:23,048 --> 00:21:24,516
WE WANT TO LOOK AT LATER IN THE 

683
00:21:24,516 --> 00:21:26,518
FUTURE, WE WILL. BUT RIGHT NOW, 

684
00:21:26,518 --> 00:21:27,786
OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE 

685
00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:28,854
GOOD STEWARDS OF THESE CAMERAS 

686
00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:31,323
AND WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE

687
00:21:31,323 --> 00:21:31,723
MAYOR'S OFFICE. 

688
00:21:31,723 --> 00:21:32,357
-- OH, I JUST WONDERED IF YOU 

689
00:21:32,357 --> 00:21:34,860
COULD SPEAK TO YOUR ANALYSTS. 

690
00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:36,194
YOU SAID YOUR ANALYSTS ARE 

691
00:21:36,194 --> 00:21:38,530
CONTROLLING THE DATA. THOSE ARE 

692
00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:39,598
CITY EMPLOYEES OR CONTRACTORS. 

693
00:21:39,598 --> 00:21:40,599
ARE THEY POLICE TRAINED? ARE 

694
00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:42,868
THEY UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT

695
00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:43,835
JUST WHERE THE HIERARCHY IS AND 

696
00:21:43,835 --> 00:21:45,337
WHERE THE DATA IS GOING? 

697
00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:47,706
-- I'LL GIVE NICK ZUKOWSKI AN 

698
00:21:47,706 --> 00:21:48,340
OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THAT FOR 

699
00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:48,540
YOU. 

700
00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:49,274
-- YEAH. SO OUR ANALYSTS AT THE 

701
00:21:49,274 --> 00:21:51,743
REAL TIME CRIME CENTER ARE SPD 

702
00:21:51,743 --> 00:21:54,880
PROFESSIONAL STAFF EMPLOYEES. 

703
00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,352
THEY ARE FULL TIME PERMANENT SPD

704
00:22:00,352 --> 00:22:03,288
EMPLOYEES, MANY OF THEM HAVE HAD

705
00:22:03,288 --> 00:22:05,824
PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH 

706
00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:08,393
DISPATCH AT THE CITY AS WELL. SO

707
00:22:08,393 --> 00:22:12,030
YEAH, THEY'RE ALL SPD 

708
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:12,330
EMPLOYEES. 

709
00:22:12,330 --> 00:22:14,766
-- TWO QUICK QUESTIONS FOR THE 

710
00:22:14,766 --> 00:22:17,369
MAYOR. THE REPORT SAID YOU JUST 

711
00:22:17,369 --> 00:22:18,570
STATED THAT YOU WOULD PREVENT 

712
00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:20,505
ICE AND OTHER BAD ACTORS FROM 

713
00:22:20,505 --> 00:22:21,440
DOING ANYTHING WITH THIS 

714
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,474
FOOTAGE. THE REPORT PRETTY 

715
00:22:22,474 --> 00:22:24,042
CONCLUSIVELY SAID THAT THAT'S 

716
00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:26,712
NOT POSSIBLE, THAT, YOU KNOW, 

717
00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:27,179
PARTICULARLY WITH THE 

718
00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:29,347
EVIDENCE.COM EVIDENCE THAT'S 

719
00:22:29,347 --> 00:22:30,282
PRESERVED FOREVER. YOU KNOW, IT 

720
00:22:30,282 --> 00:22:32,084
JUST TAKES A SUBPOENA, OUR 

721
00:22:32,084 --> 00:22:33,719
RECORDS REQUEST. SO WHY ARE YOU 

722
00:22:33,719 --> 00:22:34,753
CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN DO THAT? 

723
00:22:34,753 --> 00:22:38,590
AND THEN SECOND QUESTION IS, 

724
00:22:38,590 --> 00:22:40,759
AGAIN, KIND OF WHAT CONNOR SAID.

725
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:42,527
THE REPORT SAYS THAT THERE'S 

726
00:22:42,527 --> 00:22:45,364
VERY THIN EVIDENCE THAT THESE 

727
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:46,732
CAMERAS AND THE RTC'S ELSEWHERE

728
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:49,101
PREVENT OR SOLVE CRIMES. SO WHY 

729
00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:50,268
ARE YOU CONFIDENTLY STATING THAT

730
00:22:50,268 --> 00:22:51,837
THEY WILL HELP MAKE THE CITY THE

731
00:22:51,837 --> 00:22:53,271
SAFEST IN THE COUNTRY? 

732
00:22:53,271 --> 00:22:56,541
-- SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS

733
00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:59,478
IN THE AUDIT IS TO, TO WORK WITH

734
00:22:59,478 --> 00:23:01,079
OR TO, TO LIMIT THE DATA 

735
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:02,214
RETENTION ON EVIDENCE.COM. AND 

736
00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:03,415
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE 

737
00:23:03,415 --> 00:23:04,649
GOING TO BE WORKING ON SO THAT 

738
00:23:04,649 --> 00:23:07,252
WE'RE NOT PRESERVING THAT DATA 

739
00:23:07,252 --> 00:23:09,087
INDEFINITELY. AS I MENTIONED IN 

740
00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:10,388
MY REMARKS, THERE'S NO SUCH 

741
00:23:10,388 --> 00:23:13,191
THING AS ZERO RISK. WE HAVE A 

742
00:23:13,191 --> 00:23:15,794
POLICY IN PLACE SO THAT IF 

743
00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:16,895
OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE IS A REQUEST

744
00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,630
FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES OR ANY 

745
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:21,500
KIND OF INQUIRY FROM A FOR THE 

746
00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,168
PURPOSES OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION 

747
00:23:23,168 --> 00:23:24,136
ENFORCEMENT OR REPRODUCTIVE OR 

748
00:23:24,136 --> 00:23:25,504
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE, 

749
00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:27,005
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN REFUSE, WE 

750
00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:29,040
WILL. IF THERE IS A TYPE OF 

751
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,909
REQUEST THAT WE ARE NOT LEGALLY 

752
00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:32,377
ABLE TO REFUSE, WE WILL SHUT 

753
00:23:32,377 --> 00:23:33,845
DOWN THE CAMERA SYSTEM. I 

754
00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:35,914
BELIEVE, FOR 60 DAYS. SO THAT IS

755
00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:37,349
THAT IS WHAT IS IN OUR POLICY. 

756
00:23:37,349 --> 00:23:38,617
YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THERE IS NO 

757
00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:40,752
SUCH THING AS ZERO RISK. MY 

758
00:23:40,752 --> 00:23:42,687
ASSESSMENT BASED ON ON THE AUDIT

759
00:23:42,687 --> 00:23:43,855
IS THAT THE RISK IS IS VERY LOW.

760
00:23:43,855 --> 00:23:45,457
I MEAN, I THINK IN GENERAL, ICE 

761
00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:47,659
IS HAS ITS OWN WAYS OF GETTING 

762
00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:49,895
INFORMATION AND DOES NOT NEED 

763
00:23:49,895 --> 00:23:50,328
OUR CAMERA FOOTAGE. 

764
00:23:50,328 --> 00:23:52,030
-- ON THE SECOND QUESTION, 

765
00:23:52,030 --> 00:23:54,299
SORRY. 

766
00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:56,067
-- YOU GOT TWO. BRIAN AND 

767
00:23:56,067 --> 00:23:56,735
SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE. GO AHEAD. 

768
00:23:56,735 --> 00:23:57,569
OKAY. GO AHEAD. WE'LL COME BACK.

769
00:23:57,569 --> 00:23:58,937
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. 

770
00:23:58,937 --> 00:24:00,305
-- I HAD A QUESTION JUST ABOUT 

771
00:24:00,305 --> 00:24:00,906
POLICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I 

772
00:24:00,906 --> 00:24:01,573
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR THE 

773
00:24:01,573 --> 00:24:05,210
CHIEF OR THE MAYOR HERE, BUT 

774
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:08,113
I'M LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENS 

775
00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:09,214
WHEN THIS THIS PHOTO EVIDENCE 

776
00:24:09,214 --> 00:24:10,215
COMES IN. I REALIZE THAT 

777
00:24:10,215 --> 00:24:11,316
OFFICERS DON'T HAVE A DIRECT 

778
00:24:11,316 --> 00:24:13,952
ACCESS TO IT. BUT DO YOU 

779
00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:15,987
ANTICIPATE ANY SORT OF LABOR 

780
00:24:15,987 --> 00:24:18,757
NEGOTIATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

781
00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:20,559
TO IMPLEMENT THESE DIFFERENT 

782
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:21,226
STRICTURES THAT YOU'RE TALKING 

783
00:24:21,226 --> 00:24:21,960
ABOUT HERE, POTENTIALLY A CHANGE

784
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,894
OF WORK THAT WOULD TRIGGER 

785
00:24:22,894 --> 00:24:25,263
SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I JUST 

786
00:24:25,263 --> 00:24:26,464
REMEMBER FROM THE PAST WHEN 

787
00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:27,065
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES HAVE 

788
00:24:27,065 --> 00:24:29,100
BEEN TRIED, SOMETIMES THEY'VE 

789
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:29,734
BEEN NEGOTIATED AWAY. AND I'M 

790
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:31,536
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S A

791
00:24:31,536 --> 00:24:31,937
POSSIBILITY HERE. 

792
00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:32,637
-- I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I'LL

793
00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:36,641
PUT THAT QUESTION TO YOU GUYS. 

794
00:24:36,641 --> 00:24:38,410
-- ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT 

795
00:24:38,410 --> 00:24:39,077
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE OFFICERS 

796
00:24:39,077 --> 00:24:39,711
IF THEY MISUSE THIS INFORMATION?

797
00:24:39,711 --> 00:24:40,712
-- I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE 

798
00:24:40,712 --> 00:24:42,113
OUT IF THIS IF THE CHANGES 

799
00:24:42,113 --> 00:24:43,148
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD HAVE

800
00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:44,716
TO BE NEGOTIATED AT ALL WITH 

801
00:24:44,716 --> 00:24:46,318
DIFFERENT LABOR UNIONS WITHIN 

802
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:47,486
THE CITY. 

803
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:48,153
-- THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US

804
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:52,057
TO TALK TO OUR SPMA AND OUR SPAG

805
00:24:52,057 --> 00:24:52,691
UNION GROUPS IN REGARDS TO THAT.

806
00:24:52,691 --> 00:24:53,391
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE 

807
00:24:53,391 --> 00:24:54,993
WANT TO DO, CONTINUE TO WORK 

808
00:24:54,993 --> 00:24:56,628
TOGETHER IN CONCERT AND MAKING 

809
00:24:56,628 --> 00:24:57,562
SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME

810
00:24:57,562 --> 00:24:59,197
PAGE AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO 

811
00:24:59,197 --> 00:25:02,033
DO TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE CAN 

812
00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:02,667
UTILIZE THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THE 

813
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:03,068
RIGHT WAY. 

814
00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:03,869
-- YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S 

815
00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:04,936
GOING TO BE A. 

816
00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,471
-- CONFLICT THERE, OR IS THIS 

817
00:25:06,471 --> 00:25:07,105
SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE 

818
00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:08,173
NEGOTIATED? THAT WAS MY 

819
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:08,440
QUESTION. 

820
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,140
-- I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING 

821
00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:10,609
TO BE A NEGOTIATED OR NOT. 

822
00:25:10,609 --> 00:25:11,409
THAT'S LIKE I SAID, THAT'S 

823
00:25:11,409 --> 00:25:12,911
SOMETHING I HAVE TO TALK TO OUR 

824
00:25:12,911 --> 00:25:14,913
UNIONS ABOUT AND GO FROM THERE. 

825
00:25:14,913 --> 00:25:15,881
BUT WE'VE WE'VE HAD A STRONG 

826
00:25:15,881 --> 00:25:16,548
RELATIONSHIP, AND I THINK WE'LL

827
00:25:16,548 --> 00:25:17,582
BE FINE ON THAT. 

828
00:25:17,582 --> 00:25:19,317
-- THANK YOU. CHIEF. 

829
00:25:19,317 --> 00:25:20,385
-- SO THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN UP 

830
00:25:20,385 --> 00:25:21,686
AND RUNNING FOR A YEAR AND A 

831
00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:23,455
HALF NOW. HAS THERE BEEN A 

832
00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:29,194
SINGLE INSTANCE OF A REQUEST FOR

833
00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:29,761
IMMIGRATION OR REPRODUCTIVE 

834
00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:30,195
HEALTH ENFORCEMENT? 

835
00:25:30,195 --> 00:25:30,829
-- NOT THAT I KNOW OF, JEREMY. 

836
00:25:30,829 --> 00:25:31,663
-- BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

837
00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:32,264
CAN LOOK INTO AND WE CAN GET 

838
00:25:32,264 --> 00:25:34,432
BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 

839
00:25:34,432 --> 00:25:34,699
-- MAYOR. 

840
00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:35,700
-- WOULD YOU CARE TO RESPOND TO 

841
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:35,901
THAT? 

842
00:25:35,901 --> 00:25:36,601
-- NO. 

843
00:25:36,601 --> 00:25:37,335
-- I MEAN, SO WE HAVE A POLICY 

844
00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:38,537
IN PLACE THAT IF THERE WERE ANY 

845
00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,038
REQUESTS THAT WOULD COME TO MY 

846
00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:42,007
DESK, THERE HAS BEEN NO REQUEST 

847
00:25:42,007 --> 00:25:42,474
THAT I'M AWARE OF. 

848
00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:44,910
-- THANK YOU. HOWARD, GO AHEAD. 

849
00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:45,577
QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF AND THEN 

850
00:25:45,577 --> 00:25:48,713
FOR THE MAYOR. WHAT YOU JUST 

851
00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:50,248
SAID ABOUT THE HELP THE CAMERAS 

852
00:25:50,248 --> 00:25:52,183
HAVE HAD IN SOLVING CRIMES SEEMS

853
00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:54,519
TO CONTRADICT WHAT THE ACTUAL 

854
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:56,855
REPORT SAYS, WHICH IS 

855
00:25:56,855 --> 00:25:59,391
CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION. 

856
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:00,392
THAT DATA FROM THE CAMERAS HAVE 

857
00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:01,693
BEEN USED, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR 

858
00:26:01,693 --> 00:26:03,261
THAT IT'S ACTUALLY SOLVE 

859
00:26:03,261 --> 00:26:05,564
CRIMES. AND THEIR QUOTE WAS THE 

860
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:08,099
RESULTS ARE BEST CHARACTERIZED 

861
00:26:08,099 --> 00:26:09,501
AS MIXED IN TERMS OF SEATTLE. SO

862
00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:11,169
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD

863
00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:11,503
CLARIFY THAT. 

864
00:26:11,503 --> 00:26:12,737
-- I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT 

865
00:26:12,737 --> 00:26:13,605
NUMBER IN MY HEAD, BUT I DO HAVE

866
00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:14,806
THIS NUMBER. LAST YEAR IT HELPED

867
00:26:14,806 --> 00:26:16,641
US SOLVE 17 HOMICIDES. 

868
00:26:16,641 --> 00:26:17,909
-- AND THAT'S WHAT THE REPORT 

869
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:21,046
SAID WAS NOT ACCURATE. 

870
00:26:21,046 --> 00:26:22,314
-- SO I WAS I WAS THE DEPUTY 

871
00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:24,449
CHIEF OF INVESTIGATIONS AND 

872
00:26:24,449 --> 00:26:26,251
ASSISTED US GREATLY IN THOSE 

873
00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:26,551
SITUATIONS. 

874
00:26:26,551 --> 00:26:27,519
-- RIGHT. BUT BUT AGAIN, THAT'S

875
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:28,520
WHAT'S IN THE REPORT AND 

876
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,656
QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR. THE KEY 

877
00:26:31,656 --> 00:26:34,826
TO THE SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE 

878
00:26:34,826 --> 00:26:35,327
OUTLINED IN THIS REPORT 

879
00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:36,528
CONSTANTLY HARKEN BACK TO THE 

880
00:26:36,528 --> 00:26:38,029
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT. THE 

881
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:41,299
OPA, CPC, OIG AND SEATTLEITE 

882
00:26:41,299 --> 00:26:43,568
OFFICE. THE QUESTION IS, WHERE 

883
00:26:43,568 --> 00:26:45,103
IS THE DATA COMING FROM? WE 

884
00:26:45,103 --> 00:26:47,706
ALREADY KNOW OFFICER INVOLVED 

885
00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:49,507
SHOOTINGS. THE DATA DASHBOARD 

886
00:26:49,507 --> 00:26:51,943
FOR SPD HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN 

887
00:26:51,943 --> 00:26:52,978
ONE FULL YEAR. WE KNOW THAT 

888
00:26:52,978 --> 00:26:54,412
CRISIS CONTACTS HAVE 

889
00:26:54,412 --> 00:26:56,247
CONSISTENTLY IN THE LAST TEN 

890
00:26:56,247 --> 00:26:57,148
YEARS, EXCLUDED PEOPLE IN 

891
00:26:57,148 --> 00:26:59,150
CRISIS. KILLED BY SEATTLE 

892
00:26:59,150 --> 00:27:00,018
POLICE. I COULD GO THROUGH A LOT

893
00:27:00,018 --> 00:27:03,888
OF OTHER THINGS. WE ALSO KNOW 

894
00:27:03,888 --> 00:27:06,124
SPD TURNED ON USED CAMERAS 

895
00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:06,658
WITHOUT PERMISSION. SO MY 

896
00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:08,360
QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ENSURE THE

897
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:09,594
RELIABILITY OF THE DATA NUMBER 

898
00:27:09,594 --> 00:27:12,263
ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, HOW DO WE 

899
00:27:12,263 --> 00:27:14,866
ENSURE SOME OTHER FORM OF 

900
00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:15,433
OVERSIGHT THAT'S COMING 

901
00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:16,801
INDEPENDENTLY OUTSIDE THE CITY? 

902
00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:19,537
AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE IN 

903
00:27:19,537 --> 00:27:22,907
THIS REPORT, IT SAYS BEFORE 

904
00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:23,541
PUBLICATION, THE CITY OF SEATTLE

905
00:27:23,541 --> 00:27:24,075
POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD THE 

906
00:27:24,075 --> 00:27:24,743
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW A DRAFT OF

907
00:27:24,743 --> 00:27:26,578
THIS REPORT FOR FACTUAL ACCURACY

908
00:27:26,578 --> 00:27:28,380
AND TO OFFER FEEDBACK. WHY WAS 

909
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,683
NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY GIVEN 

910
00:27:31,683 --> 00:27:33,051
THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY, AND HOW 

911
00:27:33,051 --> 00:27:35,387
CAN WE GET MORE COMMUNITY 

912
00:27:35,387 --> 00:27:37,122
INVOLVEMENT, GIVEN THE PROBLEMS,

913
00:27:37,122 --> 00:27:39,624
THE PERSISTENT PROBLEMS OF OUR 

914
00:27:39,624 --> 00:27:40,058
OVERSIGHT PARTNERS. 

915
00:27:40,058 --> 00:27:43,628
-- AS WE WORK TO IMPLEMENT THESE

916
00:27:43,628 --> 00:27:44,262
RECOMMENDATIONS IN PARTNERSHIP 

917
00:27:44,262 --> 00:27:44,896
WITH SPD, WE'RE GOING TO BE 

918
00:27:44,896 --> 00:27:46,965
WORKING CLOSELY WITH WITH OUR 

919
00:27:46,965 --> 00:27:47,665
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS AND THE 

920
00:27:47,665 --> 00:27:49,034
WORK GROUP THAT WE'RE STANDING 

921
00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:51,703
UP WILL ALSO INCLUDE SOME 

922
00:27:51,703 --> 00:27:52,437
EXTERNAL PARTNERS AS WELL. I 

923
00:27:52,437 --> 00:27:55,140
KNOW THAT ONE THING THAT I THINK

924
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,441
OIG HAS PROMISED MOVING FORWARD 

925
00:27:56,441 --> 00:27:57,809
IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO 

926
00:27:57,809 --> 00:28:00,679
SOME KIND OF SPOT AUDITS 

927
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:05,016
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL. 

928
00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:05,650
-- BUT WE DO KNOW THAT OIG HAS 

929
00:28:05,650 --> 00:28:07,485
PROBLEMS WITH AUDITS. THERE'S 

930
00:28:07,485 --> 00:28:08,853
BEEN NUMEROUS SCANDALS, PEOPLE 

931
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:10,689
HAVE BEEN FIRED. THERE'S BEEN 

932
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,557
WHISTLEBLOWERS. CAN WE HAVE SOME

933
00:28:12,557 --> 00:28:14,793
OUTSIDE ENTITY THAT CAN ACTUALLY

934
00:28:14,793 --> 00:28:15,760
DOUBLE AND TRIPLE CHECK THAT 

935
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,028
WORK? THAT WAS THE QUESTION. 

936
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:20,965
-- OKAY. WELL, WE ALSO HAVE THE 

937
00:28:20,965 --> 00:28:22,000
UPENN EVALUATION THAT IS 

938
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,967
ONGOING, AND WE'LL GET THE 

939
00:28:22,967 --> 00:28:25,070
RESULTS OF THAT NEXT YEAR. 

940
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:26,938
-- THANKS. I GUESS THIS IS FOR 

941
00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:28,106
THE MAYOR. AND IN TERMS OF 

942
00:28:28,106 --> 00:28:31,543
SALES, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT 

943
00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:34,179
NEXT SEATTLE AND PRIVATE CAMERA 

944
00:28:34,179 --> 00:28:35,380
INTEGRATION KIND OF TWOFOLD. THE

945
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:37,482
INITIAL LETTER TO THE PUBLIC 

946
00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:40,018
SAFETY COMMITTEE SAID THAT THEY 

947
00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:42,554
WOULD HAVE ALLOW FOR INDIVIDUALS

948
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,889
AND BUSINESS OWNERS TO EITHER 

949
00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:46,591
REGISTER OR INTEGRATE THEIR LIVE

950
00:28:46,591 --> 00:28:49,160
FEEDS WITH THE REAL TIME CRIME 

951
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,295
CENTER. BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THE 

952
00:28:50,295 --> 00:28:51,730
ONUS WAS ON THE PERSON, THE 

953
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:52,530
-- THE INDIVIDUAL OR BUSINESS 

954
00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:55,900
OWNER TO BUY THEIR OWN DEVICE. 

955
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:57,235
THE AUDIT SAYS THAT SPD 

956
00:28:57,235 --> 00:28:59,871
CONFIRMED IN AUGUST IT HAD ABOUT

957
00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:01,773
100 AXON FUZES CORES FOR 

958
00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:02,740
DISTRIBUTING TO BUSINESS OWNERS,

959
00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:04,609
THAT IT HADN'T YET DONE. THAT. 

960
00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:07,812
I WAS HOPING YOU COULD SPELL OUT

961
00:29:07,812 --> 00:29:09,514
HOW IT ACQUIRED THOSE AND HOW 

962
00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:10,648
MUCH THEY COST AND HOW THEY WERE

963
00:29:10,648 --> 00:29:15,019
FUNDED. AND IF THERE'S ANY PLAN

964
00:29:15,019 --> 00:29:16,521
FOR ANNOUNCING OWNING THESE AND 

965
00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:19,124
HOW THEY WOULD BE USED. AND KIND

966
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:22,760
OF RELATED TO THAT AS MORE 

967
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,328
PRIVATELY OWNED CAMERAS ARE 

968
00:29:23,328 --> 00:29:24,829
INTEGRATED INTO THE CENTRAL 

969
00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:29,934
REGISTERED. CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW

970
00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:31,536
THE CITY IS LOOKING AT WHERE 

971
00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:34,038
THOSE CAMERAS ARE BEING ARE 

972
00:29:34,038 --> 00:29:35,673
BEING REGISTERED INTEGRATED TO 

973
00:29:35,673 --> 00:29:37,075
MAKE SURE THAT DIFFERENT PARTS 

974
00:29:37,075 --> 00:29:39,844
OF THE CITY OR DIFFERENT 

975
00:29:39,844 --> 00:29:41,579
COMMUNITIES AREN'T EXPERIENCING

976
00:29:41,579 --> 00:29:44,682
A HIGHER LEVEL OF SURVEILLANCE, 

977
00:29:44,682 --> 00:29:45,850
DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH LEVEL OF

978
00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:47,318
SURVEILLANCE COMPARED TO OTHER 

979
00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:48,753
PARTS OF THE CITY OR OTHER 

980
00:29:48,753 --> 00:29:49,454
COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY. 

981
00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:50,121
-- YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT 

982
00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:52,123
QUESTION. AND I'M GOING TO PUNT

983
00:29:52,123 --> 00:29:52,757
THE DEVICES QUESTION TO NICK 

984
00:29:52,757 --> 00:29:53,958
HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT I'LL JUST

985
00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:55,760
SAY THAT I THINK THIS QUESTION 

986
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,262
AROUND PRIVATE CAMERA 

987
00:29:57,262 --> 00:29:59,364
INTEGRATION IS ONE OF THE MOST 

988
00:29:59,364 --> 00:30:00,198
IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE

989
00:30:00,198 --> 00:30:02,433
AUDIT, BECAUSE INTEGRATING 

990
00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:03,001
PRIVATE CAMERAS EXPANDS THE 

991
00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:05,904
REACH OF OF THE SYSTEM IN WAYS 

992
00:30:05,904 --> 00:30:08,840
THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT

993
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,642
LESS CONTROLLED THAN THE CITY 

994
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:11,276
DECIDING WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS TO 

995
00:30:11,276 --> 00:30:13,978
PLACE CAMERAS IN. SO THE, THE 

996
00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:15,713
WORKGROUP IS GOING TO BE HELPING

997
00:30:15,713 --> 00:30:19,484
US TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES FOR, 

998
00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:21,219
FOR PRIVATE CAMERA INTEGRATION, 

999
00:30:21,219 --> 00:30:22,320
INTEGRATION, AND ALSO 

1000
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,588
SAFEGUARDS, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKING 

1001
00:30:23,588 --> 00:30:24,255
SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, 

1002
00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:26,357
PRIVATE CAMERAS ARE NOT TRAINED 

1003
00:30:26,357 --> 00:30:28,259
ON BEDROOM WINDOWS OR, YOU KNOW,

1004
00:30:28,259 --> 00:30:28,927
HAVING, HAVING THOSE KINDS OF 

1005
00:30:28,927 --> 00:30:30,028
SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. SO THAT'S 

1006
00:30:30,028 --> 00:30:31,896
GOING TO BE A PROCESS TO DEVELOP

1007
00:30:31,896 --> 00:30:32,931
THOSE, THOSE CRITERIA THAT WE'LL

1008
00:30:32,931 --> 00:30:40,405
BE DOING WITH THE WORKGROUP. 

1009
00:30:40,405 --> 00:30:40,738
-- OKAY. DAN. 

1010
00:30:40,738 --> 00:30:41,072
-- YEAH, AYE. 

1011
00:30:41,072 --> 00:30:41,506
-- HAVE I CAN YEAH. 

1012
00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:42,106
-- SO AS PART OF THE INITIAL 

1013
00:30:42,106 --> 00:30:43,675
PURCHASE OF THE REAL TIME CRIME 

1014
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:46,211
CENTER SOFTWARE FROM AXON, 

1015
00:30:46,211 --> 00:30:47,679
INCLUDED IN THAT PURCHASE WAS 

1016
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:48,947
100 OF THE, OF THE DEVICES THAT 

1017
00:30:48,947 --> 00:30:51,649
YOU TALKED ABOUT. WE HAVE 

1018
00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:54,886
DECIDED NOT TO GIVE THOSE 

1019
00:30:54,886 --> 00:30:55,520
DEVICES AWAY TO THE COMMUNITY AT

1020
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,258
THIS TIME. WE'LL BE, AS 

1021
00:31:00,258 --> 00:31:03,461
MENTIONED IN THE NYU AUDIT 

1022
00:31:03,461 --> 00:31:05,129
DEVELOPING A PLAN TO AND WORKING

1023
00:31:05,129 --> 00:31:07,899
WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO LOOK

1024
00:31:07,899 --> 00:31:10,101
AT PRIVATE CAMERA INTEGRATION. 

1025
00:31:10,101 --> 00:31:10,702
SO MIGHT REVISIT THAT IN THE 

1026
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:13,204
FUTURE. BUT FOR FOR RIGHT NOW, 

1027
00:31:13,204 --> 00:31:14,606
THEY'RE THOSE, THOSE DEVICES 

1028
00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,175
WILL NOT BE GIVEN OUT TO THE 

1029
00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:17,475
COMMUNITY. 

1030
00:31:17,475 --> 00:31:18,876
-- YEAH. SO I HAVE A QUESTION 

1031
00:31:18,876 --> 00:31:20,878
FOR THE CHIEF. FIRST, I THINK 

1032
00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:23,181
BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE

1033
00:31:23,181 --> 00:31:24,549
DATA AND WHAT YOU'VE BEEN 

1034
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:26,651
LOOKING AT AND HOW THESE CAMERAS

1035
00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:29,053
HAVE HELPED OFFICERS AND HELPED 

1036
00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:31,256
THE DEPARTMENT IN SOLVING 

1037
00:31:31,256 --> 00:31:31,890
CRIMES, HOW IMPACTFUL DO YOU 

1038
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,758
THINK THIS WILL BE IN THE 

1039
00:31:33,758 --> 00:31:34,292
NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THESE 

1040
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:35,526
EXPANSIONS ARE MOVING FORWARD, 

1041
00:31:35,526 --> 00:31:38,062
LIKE CAPITOL HILL, WHERE WE'VE 

1042
00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:38,630
HAD SHOOTINGS EVEN OVER THE 

1043
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:41,733
SUMMER 

1044
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:42,400
-- HOW IMPACTFUL. I CAN'T PUT A

1045
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,067
PERCENTAGE ON IT. I CAN'T PUT A

1046
00:31:43,067 --> 00:31:43,735
NUMBER ON IT, BUT I BELIEVE 

1047
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:47,105
IT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT

1048
00:31:47,105 --> 00:31:49,140
SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR OUR 

1049
00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:49,707
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ALSO 

1050
00:31:49,707 --> 00:31:52,777
LEADING OUR DETECTIVES, OUR 

1051
00:31:52,777 --> 00:31:55,013
OFFICERS TO THESE BAD ACTORS, 

1052
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:55,680
THESE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT'S 

1053
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,314
DOING THE SHOOTINGS AND DOING 

1054
00:31:56,314 --> 00:31:57,782
THE CRIMES IN THE COMMUNITY IS 

1055
00:31:57,782 --> 00:32:01,853
GOING TO GIVE US A HEAD START, 

1056
00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:02,487
SO TO SAY. INSTEAD OF WAITING, 

1057
00:32:02,487 --> 00:32:03,187
LOOKING FOR THINGS, TRYING TO 

1058
00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:06,024
PICK UP SOME OF THE DNA, THAT 

1059
00:32:06,024 --> 00:32:07,592
COLLECTION OF EVIDENCE IS GOING 

1060
00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:08,993
TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR 

1061
00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:11,129
DETECTIVES TO PUSH 

1062
00:32:11,129 --> 00:32:11,729
INVESTIGATIONS FORWARD FASTER 

1063
00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:12,897
AND MAKE APPROPRIATE ARRESTS 

1064
00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,732
WHEN WE NEED TO. AND HOPEFULLY, 

1065
00:32:14,732 --> 00:32:15,900
LIKE I SAID, THAT SAFETY AND 

1066
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:16,868
SECURITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY 

1067
00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,369
MEMBERS, HOPEFULLY THEY FEEL 

1068
00:32:18,369 --> 00:32:18,703
THAT IMPACT. 

1069
00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:19,570
-- I ALSO HAVE A SECOND 

1070
00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:20,571
QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE IF IT 

1071
00:32:20,571 --> 00:32:24,108
WILL BE YOU OR HIM. DO WE HAVE 

1072
00:32:24,108 --> 00:32:25,543
FIRM DATES ON WHEN NEIGHBORHOODS

1073
00:32:25,543 --> 00:32:26,878
CAN EXPECT THESE CAMERAS TO BE 

1074
00:32:26,878 --> 00:32:29,881
IN PLACE AND TURNED ON? DO YOU 

1075
00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:31,783
HAVE EXACT DATES RIGHT NOW, OR 

1076
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:32,183
EVEN TIMEFRAMES? 

1077
00:32:32,183 --> 00:32:33,251
-- NO, WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE TIME

1078
00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:35,586
DATES, BUT IT'S LIKE I SAID, 

1079
00:32:35,586 --> 00:32:37,155
IT'S A PARTNERSHIP AND US 

1080
00:32:37,155 --> 00:32:37,789
WORKING TOGETHER, TALKING ABOUT 

1081
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:39,624
WHEN WE NEED TO ROLL THESE OUT. 

1082
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,159
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, TALKING TO

1083
00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:41,926
OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 

1084
00:32:41,926 --> 00:32:42,193
-- FIRST. 

1085
00:32:42,193 --> 00:32:44,028
-- I CAN ADD SOMETHING THERE. SO

1086
00:32:44,028 --> 00:32:45,129
AS I MENTIONED IN MY REMARKS, 

1087
00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:46,397
THE SODA CAMERAS, WHICH ARE 

1088
00:32:46,397 --> 00:32:47,532
ALREADY INSTALLED, WILL BE 

1089
00:32:47,532 --> 00:32:49,334
TURNED ON IMMEDIATELY. THE 

1090
00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:50,268
OTHERS STILL NEED TO BE 

1091
00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:51,402
PURCHASED AND INSTALLED, AND WE 

1092
00:32:51,402 --> 00:32:52,904
DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG 

1093
00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:53,571
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE, BECAUSE 

1094
00:32:53,571 --> 00:32:54,772
WE'RE AT THE WHIMS OF THE, YOU 

1095
00:32:54,772 --> 00:32:56,040
KNOW, POSTAL SERVICE OR 

1096
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,009
WHATEVER. SO WE IMAGINE THAT'LL

1097
00:32:58,009 --> 00:32:59,277
BE SEVERAL MONTHS. 

1098
00:32:59,277 --> 00:33:00,478
-- THANK YOU EVERYBODY. WE'LL 

1099
00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:01,212
FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. 

1100
00:33:01,212 --> 00:33:01,579
-- CAN I WANT. 

1101
00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:02,980
-- TO SAY I WANT TO DO A COUPLE 

1102
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:03,514
MORE. WELL, I WOULD LOVE. 

1103
00:33:03,514 --> 00:33:04,682
-- TO GET A SECOND QUESTION, IF 

1104
00:33:04,682 --> 00:33:05,416
THAT'S POSSIBLE. 

1105
00:33:05,416 --> 00:33:06,384
-- DO YOU DO YOU FOLLOW UP AND 

1106
00:33:06,384 --> 00:33:08,653
THEN WE'LL WE GOT TO WRAP IT UP

1107
00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:08,953
AFTER THIS. 

1108
00:33:08,953 --> 00:33:09,754
-- ALTHOUGH TRACY HASN'T HAD A 

1109
00:33:09,754 --> 00:33:10,021
QUESTION. 

1110
00:33:10,021 --> 00:33:12,357
-- SO CAN WE DO BOTH OF THEM? GO

1111
00:33:12,357 --> 00:33:12,590
FOR IT. 

1112
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:12,957
-- I JUST WANT. 

1113
00:33:12,957 --> 00:33:14,559
-- TO SAY TRACY. 

1114
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:15,393
-- OKAY. YEAH. JUST THIS IS A 

1115
00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:16,561
REALLY QUICK QUESTION AND 

1116
00:33:16,561 --> 00:33:17,495
FORGIVE ME IF I MISSED IT IN THE

1117
00:33:17,495 --> 00:33:19,497
MAYOR'S INITIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. 

1118
00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:21,132
WHAT'S THE STATUS OF LICENSE 

1119
00:33:21,132 --> 00:33:23,534
PLATE READER CAMERAS? 

1120
00:33:23,534 --> 00:33:24,602
-- THE ALPR ARE CURRENTLY TURNED

1121
00:33:24,602 --> 00:33:27,038
OFF. A STATE LAW WAS PASSED IN 

1122
00:33:27,038 --> 00:33:28,906
THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION 

1123
00:33:28,906 --> 00:33:31,576
THAT LIMITED THEIR USE AROUND 

1124
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:33,444
SENSITIVE AREAS LIKE SCHOOLS AND

1125
00:33:33,444 --> 00:33:36,013
HOSPITALS. AND BECAUSE SPD'S 

1126
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:37,749
ALPR ARE VEHICLE MOUNTED, WE 

1127
00:33:37,749 --> 00:33:39,684
WERE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THE 

1128
00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:41,919
ASSURANCE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE

1129
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:42,620
USED NEAR THOSE AREAS AT THIS 

1130
00:33:42,620 --> 00:33:43,988
POINT. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN 

1131
00:33:43,988 --> 00:33:45,323
TURNED OFF. WHILE WE LOOK AT 

1132
00:33:45,323 --> 00:33:48,826
OPTIONS FOR CREATING, WHAT DO 

1133
00:33:48,826 --> 00:33:49,160
THEY CALL IT. 

1134
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,628
-- WHAT'S WHAT COMPLIANCE? 

1135
00:33:50,628 --> 00:33:51,829
-- WELL, WE WHILE WE COMPLY WITH

1136
00:33:51,829 --> 00:33:54,232
THAT LAW, BASICALLY. 

1137
00:33:54,232 --> 00:33:56,100
-- THE REPORT FOUND THAT THERE 

1138
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,203
WAS THIN EVIDENCE THAT THE 

1139
00:33:59,203 --> 00:34:01,305
CAMERAS IN OTHER CITIES AND 

1140
00:34:01,305 --> 00:34:03,374
ARKANSAS AND OTHER CITIES HAVE 

1141
00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:04,542
SOLVED OR PREVENTED CRIMES. AND 

1142
00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:05,943
IT ALSO FOUND THAT THERE WAS 

1143
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:07,078
JUST A CORRELATION BETWEEN ALL 

1144
00:34:07,078 --> 00:34:08,913
THE TIMES THAT THE POLICE 

1145
00:34:08,913 --> 00:34:10,415
DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT THEY USE 

1146
00:34:10,415 --> 00:34:11,983
THEM RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, A 

1147
00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:12,950
CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP. AND SO I'M

1148
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:15,119
WONDERING HOW YOU CAN 

1149
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:15,753
CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT THEY'RE 

1150
00:34:15,753 --> 00:34:16,754
GOING TO HELP MAKE SEATTLE THE 

1151
00:34:16,754 --> 00:34:18,056
SAFEST BIG CITY IN THE COUNTRY. 

1152
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:19,190
-- YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S 

1153
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:20,458
ACTUALLY WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH 

1154
00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:22,760
ON IN CLOSING. SO FIRST OF ALL, 

1155
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,362
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT NOT

1156
00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:25,596
TO OVERSELL CAMERAS, RIGHT? I 

1157
00:34:25,596 --> 00:34:27,799
BELIEVE THAT OUR TCC AND THESE 

1158
00:34:27,799 --> 00:34:29,967
CAMERA SYSTEMS ARE AN IMPORTANT 

1159
00:34:29,967 --> 00:34:31,369
BUT VERY LIMITED PART OF OUR 

1160
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:32,570
OVERALL PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. SO

1161
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:34,305
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THE CAMERAS

1162
00:34:34,305 --> 00:34:35,473
ARE GOING TO SOLVE ALL OUR 

1163
00:34:35,473 --> 00:34:36,240
PROBLEMS. THEY'RE GOING TO SOLVE

1164
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,408
ALL OUR CRIMES. THEY'RE GOING 

1165
00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:38,709
TO PREVENT CRIME. RIGHT. I THINK

1166
00:34:38,709 --> 00:34:40,878
THEY HAVE A NARROW BUT IMPORTANT

1167
00:34:40,878 --> 00:34:42,647
ROLE IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY 

1168
00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:44,182
SYSTEM. I AGREE THAT THE 

1169
00:34:44,182 --> 00:34:45,750
EVIDENCE IS MIXED. I DO THINK 

1170
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:47,351
THAT CAMERAS, ESPECIALLY REAL 

1171
00:34:47,351 --> 00:34:50,254
TIME CRIME CENTERS, WHICH ARE A 

1172
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:51,289
FAIRLY NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT'S 

1173
00:34:51,289 --> 00:34:52,890
HARD TO HAVE A CONTROLLED 

1174
00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:53,958
EXPERIMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, MY 

1175
00:34:53,958 --> 00:34:55,760
READ OF THE RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN

1176
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,696
DONE, THE STUDIES IS THAT IT'S 

1177
00:34:58,696 --> 00:34:59,764
REALLY MURKY. AND THAT IS PARTLY

1178
00:34:59,764 --> 00:35:01,866
BECAUSE IT IS SO HARD TO DO A TO

1179
00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:04,235
DO A REALLY A REALLY CONTROLLED 

1180
00:35:04,235 --> 00:35:07,205
EXPERIMENT. SO, AND, AND THIS IS

1181
00:35:07,205 --> 00:35:08,339
PARTLY WHY I'M REALLY LOOKING 

1182
00:35:08,339 --> 00:35:10,475
FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THE, 

1183
00:35:10,475 --> 00:35:11,542
THE UPENN EVALUATION NEXT YEAR, 

1184
00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:12,610
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL GIVE 

1185
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:15,046
SOME MORE INSIGHT INTO OUR 

1186
00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:16,247
PARTICULAR SYSTEM, HOW IT'S 

1187
00:35:16,247 --> 00:35:18,516
BEING USED AND HOW EFFECTIVE IT 

1188
00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:20,151
IS. I THINK SOME OF THE MORE 

1189
00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:22,253
COMPELLING ARGUMENTS FOR ME, 

1190
00:35:22,253 --> 00:35:23,955
TALKING WITH OUR OFFICERS, 

1191
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:25,823
TALKING WITH AND JUST KIND OF 

1192
00:35:25,823 --> 00:35:28,126
HEARING THE WAYS THAT, AT LEAST 

1193
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:28,759
ANECDOTALLY, THESE CAMERAS HAVE 

1194
00:35:28,759 --> 00:35:30,962
BEEN USED, IS, FIRST OF ALL, WE 

1195
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,597
DO HAVE REAL ISSUES WITH POLICE 

1196
00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:36,167
STAFFING RIGHT NOW IN OUR IN OUR

1197
00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:36,767
CITY. I WAS JUST OVER AT THE 

1198
00:35:36,767 --> 00:35:37,969
SOUTHWEST SOUTHWEST PRECINCT 

1199
00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,370
LAST NIGHT TALKING TO OFFICERS. 

1200
00:35:39,370 --> 00:35:40,037
AND JUST LIKE THE NUMBER OF 

1201
00:35:40,037 --> 00:35:41,139
PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE FOR A 

1202
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:42,640
SHIFT IS LIKE VERY SMALL 

1203
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,008
COMPARED TO WHAT THEY USED TO 

1204
00:35:44,008 --> 00:35:46,077
AND COMPARED TO WHAT THEY FEEL 

1205
00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:48,112
THEY NEED. AND, AND I DO THINK 

1206
00:35:48,112 --> 00:35:52,016
THAT THE TCC CAN HELP US BE MORE

1207
00:35:52,016 --> 00:35:53,451
EFFICIENT WITH OUR POLICE 

1208
00:35:53,451 --> 00:35:54,685
RESOURCES WHEN IT COMES TO 

1209
00:35:54,685 --> 00:35:55,319
INVESTIGATIONS AND WHEN IT COMES

1210
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:56,888
TO EFFECTIVENESS IN RESPONDING 

1211
00:35:56,888 --> 00:36:00,124
TO REAL TIME INCIDENTS. AND, YOU

1212
00:36:00,124 --> 00:36:04,362
KNOW, I TAKE THE POINT OF HOWARD

1213
00:36:04,362 --> 00:36:05,930
BACK THERE ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, 

1214
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:08,166
CLAIMING THAT THE CAMERAS HAVE 

1215
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,434
HELPED TO SOLVE 17 HOMICIDES. 

1216
00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:11,669
YOU KNOW, THE AUDIT POINTS OUT 

1217
00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:14,939
THAT CAMERA FOOTAGE WAS USED IN 

1218
00:36:14,939 --> 00:36:15,439
THE INVESTIGATION OF 17 

1219
00:36:15,439 --> 00:36:16,240
HOMICIDES. AGREE THAT DOES NOT 

1220
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,375
THAT'S NOT A CAUSAL 

1221
00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:18,709
RELATIONSHIP. THAT DOES NOT MEAN

1222
00:36:18,709 --> 00:36:19,544
THAT THOSE CASES WOULD NOT HAVE 

1223
00:36:19,544 --> 00:36:20,711
BEEN SOLVED WITHOUT THAT 

1224
00:36:20,711 --> 00:36:22,046
FOOTAGE. THAT DOES NOT PROVIDE 

1225
00:36:22,046 --> 00:36:23,114
THE DETAIL OF HOW THAT FOOTAGE 

1226
00:36:23,114 --> 00:36:24,615
WAS USED IN THOSE 

1227
00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:25,783
INVESTIGATIONS. AGAIN, WHY I'M 

1228
00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:27,051
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OIG 

1229
00:36:27,051 --> 00:36:29,754
REPORT, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SOME 

1230
00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:31,222
MORE INSIGHT ON THAT FRONT. BUT 

1231
00:36:31,222 --> 00:36:34,158
I DO BELIEVE FROM MY 

1232
00:36:34,158 --> 00:36:35,893
CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR TCC STAFF

1233
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AND OFFICERS THAT THE CAMERAS 

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ARE HELPFUL BOTH IN 

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INVESTIGATIONS AND IN RESPONDING

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TO REAL TIME INCIDENTS. AND WE 

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CAN ARGUE ABOUT HOW HELPFUL. BUT

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BUT I THINK THAT THE KIND OF 

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EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE USE OF OUR 

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RESOURCES. I BELIEVE THAT A 

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TARGETED, LIMITED CAMERA SYSTEM 

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IS A GOOD INVESTMENT. 

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-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.

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WE'LL FOLLOW UP INDIVIDUALLY. 

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SEPARATELY, DOWNSTAIRS TO THE 

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-- [LAUGHTER] 

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-- ASKED TO BE ON. 

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-- [LAUGHTER] 

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-- YES. 

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-- [LAUGHTER] 

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-- I ASKED LAST TIME. 

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-- [MUSIC] 

