1 00:00:12,078 --> 00:00:14,914 [MUSIC] 2 00:00:15,048 --> 00:00:16,516 -- GOOD AFTERNOON. THE SPECIAL 3 00:00:16,516 --> 00:00:17,784 HUMAN SERVICES LABOR AND 4 00:00:17,784 --> 00:00:18,418 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE 5 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:19,152 MEETING OF THE SEATTLE CITY 6 00:00:19,152 --> 00:00:21,121 COUNCIL WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. 7 00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:24,357 IT IS 2:08 P.M. FRIDAY, 8 00:00:24,357 --> 00:00:26,059 SEPTEMBER 11th, 2026. I'M 9 00:00:26,059 --> 00:00:26,659 COUNCILMEMBER ALEXIS MERCEDES 10 00:00:26,659 --> 00:00:27,594 RINCK, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. 11 00:00:27,594 --> 00:00:28,962 WILL THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE 12 00:00:28,962 --> 00:00:31,498 CALL THE ROLE AND LET THE RECORD 13 00:00:31,498 --> 00:00:32,065 REFLECT THAT? COUNCILMEMBER 14 00:00:32,065 --> 00:00:33,266 JUAREZ AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 15 00:00:33,266 --> 00:00:34,834 ARE EXCUSED. HOWEVER, 16 00:00:34,834 --> 00:00:36,269 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA SHOULD BE 17 00:00:36,269 --> 00:00:39,773 JOINING US LATER IN THE MEETING 18 00:00:39,773 --> 00:00:42,042 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. HERE. 19 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:42,475 COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 20 00:00:42,475 --> 00:00:43,877 -- HOLLINGSWORTH HERE. PRESENT. 21 00:00:43,877 --> 00:00:45,211 -- CHAIR RINCK. 22 00:00:45,211 --> 00:00:45,512 -- PRESENT. 23 00:00:45,512 --> 00:00:46,946 -- CHAIR. THERE ARE THREE 24 00:00:46,946 --> 00:00:48,281 MEMBERS PRESENT AND TWO EXCUSED. 25 00:00:48,281 --> 00:00:49,215 -- THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE 26 00:00:49,215 --> 00:00:50,083 ON TO APPROVAL OF TODAY'S 27 00:00:50,083 --> 00:00:51,551 AGENDA. IF THERE IS NO 28 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:53,019 OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE 29 00:00:53,019 --> 00:00:55,889 ADOPTED HEARING NO OBJECTION, 30 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:57,524 THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. GOOD 31 00:00:57,524 --> 00:00:59,092 AFTERNOON AND WELCOME, EVERYONE 32 00:00:59,092 --> 00:01:00,493 TO TODAY'S SPECIAL MEETING OF 33 00:01:00,493 --> 00:01:01,795 THE HUMAN SERVICES, LABOR AND 34 00:01:01,795 --> 00:01:04,164 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. 35 00:01:04,164 --> 00:01:05,265 TODAY'S MEETING WILL BE OUR 36 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:07,066 THIRD MEETING ON THE FAIR 37 00:01:07,066 --> 00:01:08,067 PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 38 00:01:08,067 --> 00:01:10,336 ORDINANCE. AND IT IS OUR ONLY 39 00:01:10,336 --> 00:01:11,738 ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA. AND 40 00:01:11,738 --> 00:01:13,506 I'LL BE RESERVING MY COMMENTS ON 41 00:01:13,506 --> 00:01:14,040 THIS LEGISLATION FOR THAT 42 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,810 DISCUSSION ITEM. BUT FOR NOW, I 43 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:18,611 WANT TO RESTATE MY SINCERE 44 00:01:18,611 --> 00:01:19,212 THANKS TO CO-SPONSORS OF THE 45 00:01:19,212 --> 00:01:22,215 LEGISLATION FOR THE BILL. VICE 46 00:01:22,215 --> 00:01:22,849 CHAIR FOSTER AND COUNCILMEMBER 47 00:01:22,849 --> 00:01:25,218 SAKA. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL NOW 48 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:25,852 OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. 49 00:01:25,852 --> 00:01:27,287 PUBLIC COMMENTS SHOULD RELATE TO 50 00:01:27,287 --> 00:01:28,588 ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR 51 00:01:28,588 --> 00:01:29,889 WITHIN PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE 52 00:01:29,889 --> 00:01:31,024 CLERK. HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE 53 00:01:31,024 --> 00:01:32,325 SIGNED UP FOR TODAY? 54 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:34,494 -- CURRENTLY, WE HAVE SIX 55 00:01:34,494 --> 00:01:35,462 IN-PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, 56 00:01:35,462 --> 00:01:37,263 AND THERE ARE 13 REMOTE 57 00:01:37,263 --> 00:01:37,530 SPEAKERS. 58 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:38,965 -- THANK YOU. EACH SPEAKER WILL 59 00:01:38,965 --> 00:01:40,099 BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES, AND WE 60 00:01:40,099 --> 00:01:41,501 WILL START WITH OUR IN PERSON 61 00:01:41,501 --> 00:01:43,403 SPEAKERS. FIRST CLERK, CAN YOU 62 00:01:43,403 --> 00:01:45,972 PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT 63 00:01:45,972 --> 00:01:46,306 INSTRUCTIONS? 64 00:01:46,306 --> 00:01:46,906 -- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 65 00:01:46,906 --> 00:01:48,007 WILL BE MODERATED IN THE 66 00:01:48,007 --> 00:01:49,342 FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC 67 00:01:49,342 --> 00:01:51,277 COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 60 68 00:01:51,277 --> 00:01:52,345 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED 69 00:01:52,345 --> 00:01:55,048 IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE 70 00:01:55,048 --> 00:01:55,582 REGISTERED. SPEAKERS WILL 71 00:01:55,582 --> 00:01:56,616 ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS OF 72 00:01:56,616 --> 00:01:58,084 IN-PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS 73 00:01:58,084 --> 00:01:59,719 UNTIL THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 74 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:01,521 HAS ENDED. PLEASE BEGIN BY. 75 00:02:01,521 --> 00:02:02,622 PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY STATING 76 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:04,290 YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE 77 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:05,859 ADDRESSING. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A 78 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:06,759 CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT 79 00:02:06,759 --> 00:02:08,962 ON THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS. MICS 80 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:09,963 WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END 81 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:11,431 THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE 82 00:02:11,431 --> 00:02:12,899 ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO 83 00:02:12,899 --> 00:02:14,434 CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER. THE 84 00:02:14,434 --> 00:02:15,034 PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW 85 00:02:15,034 --> 00:02:16,603 OPEN, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE 86 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:18,838 FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST. 87 00:02:18,838 --> 00:02:20,907 -- THANK YOU. THE FIRST 88 00:02:20,907 --> 00:02:21,975 IN-PERSON SPEAKER IS HARPER, AND 89 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:22,575 I'M GOING TO READ THE NEXT 90 00:02:22,575 --> 00:02:24,077 COUPLE NAMES AFTER HARPER. WE 91 00:02:24,077 --> 00:02:27,013 HAVE OLIVIA LINDSTROM, FOLLOWED 92 00:02:27,013 --> 00:02:31,351 BY T SHANNON SEPT, AND THEN 93 00:02:31,351 --> 00:02:39,225 DAVID HAYNES. HARPER 94 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:46,533 -- HELLO, MY NAME IS HARPER. 95 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:48,768 I'M FROM DISTRICT THREE AND I 96 00:02:48,768 --> 00:02:50,336 AM HERE TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO 97 00:02:50,336 --> 00:02:53,339 BAN ALL SURVEILLANCE PRICING. 98 00:02:53,339 --> 00:02:55,508 YOU WILL. YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT 99 00:02:55,508 --> 00:02:57,710 ABOUT HOW WE LIKE NAIVE 100 00:02:57,710 --> 00:02:59,279 CHILDREN, DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW 101 00:02:59,279 --> 00:03:03,082 THIS BAN COULD HURT US. HOWEVER, 102 00:03:03,082 --> 00:03:04,984 WE DO UNDERSTAND. WE UNDERSTAND 103 00:03:04,984 --> 00:03:07,053 THAT LETTING THEM USE THIS DATA 104 00:03:07,053 --> 00:03:08,121 TO OFFER TARGETED DISCOUNTS WILL 105 00:03:08,121 --> 00:03:09,656 RESULT IN THE SAME OUTCOME 106 00:03:09,656 --> 00:03:13,459 YOU'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THEY 107 00:03:13,459 --> 00:03:16,329 CAN JUST RAISE THE BASE PRICE 108 00:03:16,329 --> 00:03:17,730 AND OFFER TARGETED DISCOUNTS. I 109 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:19,966 WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED IF THIS WAS 110 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:21,501 LARGELY THE PLAN FROM THE START, 111 00:03:21,501 --> 00:03:23,036 BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ALSO JUST 112 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:24,003 PAY MORE IF THEY THINK THAT 113 00:03:24,003 --> 00:03:26,773 THEY'RE GETTING A DISCOUNT. MY 114 00:03:26,773 --> 00:03:27,240 PARENTS BOTH WORK IN 115 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,608 ADVERTISING. THIS IS JUST 116 00:03:28,608 --> 00:03:31,911 SOMETHING I WAS TAUGHT GROWING 117 00:03:31,911 --> 00:03:33,546 UP. THEY DO NOT OFFER DISCOUNTS 118 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:36,482 OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR OWN 119 00:03:36,482 --> 00:03:38,284 HEARTS. AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR 120 00:03:38,284 --> 00:03:41,487 PROFITS. THESE ARE SOULLESS 121 00:03:41,487 --> 00:03:42,088 CORPORATIONS AND EVERY MOVE, 122 00:03:42,088 --> 00:03:45,358 THEIR EVERY MOVE IS CALCULATED 123 00:03:45,358 --> 00:03:47,994 SO THAT THEY CAN SCRAPE EVERY 124 00:03:47,994 --> 00:03:49,829 DOLLAR OUT OF OUR POCKET. BOOKS. 125 00:03:49,829 --> 00:03:51,598 IT IS ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT 126 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:53,266 SMALL GROCERY STORES DO NOT HAVE 127 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:55,335 ACCESS TO THIS KIND OF 128 00:03:55,335 --> 00:03:58,171 UNPRECEDENTED DATA AND THEY ALSO 129 00:03:58,171 --> 00:03:59,405 DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE LEVERS 130 00:03:59,405 --> 00:04:03,509 TO USE IT, FURTHER HARMING THEIR 131 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:05,678 OWN ABILITY TO SURVIVE, 132 00:04:05,678 --> 00:04:06,279 ESPECIALLY IN THIS DIFFICULT 133 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:10,016 MARKET RIGHT NOW. SO YOU CAN 134 00:04:10,016 --> 00:04:12,352 EITHER DO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING 135 00:04:12,352 --> 00:04:13,419 FOR AND CHOOSE TO SUPPORT, OR 136 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:15,622 YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SUPPORT 137 00:04:15,622 --> 00:04:19,392 VOTERS, TAXPAYERS, AND THE SMALL 138 00:04:19,392 --> 00:04:20,760 BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY. I ALSO 139 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,062 JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT LIKE, IN 140 00:04:23,062 --> 00:04:25,765 ADDITION TO SORT OF USING THIS 141 00:04:25,765 --> 00:04:27,400 DATA DIRECTLY AGAINST US, THEY 142 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,804 CAN ALSO JUST USE US ESSENTIALLY 143 00:04:31,804 --> 00:04:34,307 AS GUINEA PIGS TO TEST NEW 144 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:39,178 PRICING MODELS AND ALSO JUST 145 00:04:39,178 --> 00:04:41,347 SELL THAT DATA. I KNOW THAT LG 146 00:04:41,347 --> 00:04:47,420 AND VIZIO ARE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN 147 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:49,255 EXPOSED FOR, FOR SELLING THEIR 148 00:04:49,255 --> 00:04:51,124 TVS ALMOST AT A LOSS AND THEN 149 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:52,425 JUST MAKING BUCKET LOADS OF 150 00:04:52,425 --> 00:04:54,027 MONEY OFF OF THE ADVERTISER DATA 151 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:55,295 THAT THESE GROCERY STORES CAN 152 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:56,396 THEN BUY AND USE AGAINST US. 153 00:04:56,396 --> 00:04:59,298 -- THANK YOU 154 00:04:59,298 --> 00:05:03,603 -- [APPLAUSE] 155 00:05:03,603 --> 00:05:03,903 -- HARPER. 156 00:05:03,903 --> 00:05:06,472 -- NEXT UP IS OLIVIA. 157 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:08,708 -- HI, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS 158 00:05:08,708 --> 00:05:10,443 OLIVIA AND I'M A WORKER AND 159 00:05:10,443 --> 00:05:11,978 RENTER LIVING IN BEACON HILL. 160 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:13,546 I'M HERE TO URGE CITY COUNCIL 161 00:05:13,546 --> 00:05:15,448 TO SUPPORT THE FAIR PRICING AND 162 00:05:15,448 --> 00:05:17,083 TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE. TODAY. 163 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:19,052 I'LL START BY SAYING THAT 164 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:20,720 EVERYONE DESERVES TO EAT WELL 165 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,255 AND NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD 166 00:05:22,255 --> 00:05:23,756 FOOD SO THEY CAN SUSTAIN 167 00:05:23,756 --> 00:05:26,559 THEMSELVES AND THEIR LOVED ONES 168 00:05:26,559 --> 00:05:28,761 WITH DIGNITY. SURVEILLANCE 169 00:05:28,761 --> 00:05:29,295 PRICING IS A SPIRITUALLY 170 00:05:29,295 --> 00:05:30,863 BANKRUPT AND DISCRIMINATORY 171 00:05:30,863 --> 00:05:32,999 PRACTICE. IT IS VOID OF THE 172 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,467 HUMANITY EACH PERSON DESERVES 173 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:36,336 WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO NOURISH 174 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:38,705 THEMSELVES THROUGH EATING, 175 00:05:38,705 --> 00:05:40,740 WHETHER IT MANIFESTS AS 176 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:42,241 ALGORITHMIC PRICE FIXING OF RENT 177 00:05:42,241 --> 00:05:45,878 OR, IN THIS CASE, GROCERIES, IT 178 00:05:45,878 --> 00:05:46,479 RELIES ON MAXIMIZING PROFITS 179 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:49,282 OVER THE BASIC NEEDS OF PEOPLE, 180 00:05:49,282 --> 00:05:51,718 CORPORATIONS AND BUSINESSES THAT 181 00:05:51,718 --> 00:05:53,486 USE SHOPPERS SENSITIVE PERSONAL 182 00:05:53,486 --> 00:05:55,288 DATA TO PRICE GOUGE ARE DOING SO 183 00:05:55,288 --> 00:05:57,190 PURELY FOR PROFIT AND GREED AT 184 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:58,891 THE EXPENSE OF WORKING CLASS 185 00:05:58,891 --> 00:06:00,993 PEOPLE. WE ARE THE WE ARE PEOPLE 186 00:06:00,993 --> 00:06:02,695 WHO HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH 187 00:06:02,695 --> 00:06:07,433 THE HIGH COSTS OF FOOD, HOUSING, 188 00:06:07,433 --> 00:06:08,067 HEALTH CARE AND TRANSPORTATION 189 00:06:08,067 --> 00:06:11,671 IN A TERRIBLE JOB MARKET AS 190 00:06:11,671 --> 00:06:12,205 SOCIAL SERVICES ARE BEING 191 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,207 UNDERCUT AND WHILE CORPORATIONS 192 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:15,808 AND THE PEOPLE WHO LEAD THEM 193 00:06:15,808 --> 00:06:18,578 MAKE RECORD PROFITS HAND OVER 194 00:06:18,578 --> 00:06:20,179 FIST, IF WE ARE TO SERIOUSLY 195 00:06:20,179 --> 00:06:22,415 ADDRESS THE AFFORDABILITY 196 00:06:22,415 --> 00:06:23,983 CRISIS, LET US START HERE WITH 197 00:06:23,983 --> 00:06:25,651 SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES AND 198 00:06:25,651 --> 00:06:27,019 IMPACTS EVERY OTHER PART OF OUR 199 00:06:27,019 --> 00:06:32,225 LIVES. GROCERIES, PLEASE ACT TO 200 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:32,825 PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES FROM 201 00:06:32,825 --> 00:06:34,193 EXPLOITATION. PASS THE FAIR 202 00:06:34,193 --> 00:06:36,329 PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 203 00:06:36,329 --> 00:06:41,000 ORDINANCE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 204 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:41,200 TIME. 205 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,137 -- THANK YOU OLIVIA. 206 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:47,340 -- NEXT WE HAVE T FOLLOWED BY 207 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:49,108 SEPT DAVID HAINES AND THEN KATE 208 00:06:49,108 --> 00:06:53,813 RUBIN 209 00:06:53,813 --> 00:06:54,447 -- GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR RINCK 210 00:06:54,447 --> 00:06:57,450 AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. 211 00:06:57,450 --> 00:06:59,285 I'M T SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE 212 00:06:59,285 --> 00:07:02,522 ACLU OF WASHINGTON. I SUPPORT 213 00:07:02,522 --> 00:07:04,624 COUNCIL BILL 121267 BECAUSE IT 214 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:06,726 HELPS BUILD A MARKETPLACE 215 00:07:06,726 --> 00:07:07,260 GROUNDED IN TRANSPARENCY, 216 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:08,694 PRIVACY AND EQUITY. WHEN WE 217 00:07:08,694 --> 00:07:11,397 SHOP, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE 218 00:07:11,397 --> 00:07:12,031 DECISIONS BASED ON THE PRODUCT 219 00:07:12,031 --> 00:07:14,133 AND THE PRICE, NOT A HIDDEN 220 00:07:14,133 --> 00:07:15,101 ASSESSMENT OF WHO WE ARE, WHAT 221 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:16,869 WE NEED, OR WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. 222 00:07:16,869 --> 00:07:18,037 WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST THAT 223 00:07:18,037 --> 00:07:19,572 THE PRICE WE SEE ISN'T BEING 224 00:07:19,572 --> 00:07:21,474 QUIETLY PERSONALIZED, BASED ON 225 00:07:21,474 --> 00:07:23,509 INFORMATION COLLECTED ON US. 226 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:25,144 SURVEILLANCE PRICING IS A 227 00:07:25,144 --> 00:07:27,346 PRIVACY ISSUE. IT USES 228 00:07:27,346 --> 00:07:28,915 INFORMATION ABOUT A PERSON, SUCH 229 00:07:28,915 --> 00:07:30,349 AS THEIR BEHAVIOR, LOCATION, 230 00:07:30,349 --> 00:07:31,884 SHOPPING HISTORY TO DETERMINE 231 00:07:31,884 --> 00:07:33,786 THE PRICE THAT THAT PERSON SEES. 232 00:07:33,786 --> 00:07:35,621 IT ALSO INCENTIVIZES BUSINESSES 233 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:37,523 TO COLLECT EVEN MORE PERSONAL 234 00:07:37,523 --> 00:07:38,925 INFORMATION ABOUT US. THIS IS 235 00:07:38,925 --> 00:07:41,160 ALSO AN EQUITY ISSUE. 236 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,328 SURVEILLANCE PRICING ESPECIALLY 237 00:07:42,328 --> 00:07:44,864 HARMS PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY 238 00:07:44,864 --> 00:07:45,398 FINANCIALLY VULNERABLE BY 239 00:07:45,398 --> 00:07:46,966 WEAPONIZING THEIR PERSONAL DATA 240 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:48,034 TO MAXIMIZE THE PRICE THEY ARE 241 00:07:48,034 --> 00:07:50,570 FORCED TO PAY FOR BASIC 242 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:51,137 NECESSITIES. BECAUSE THESE 243 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:52,638 SYSTEMS RELY ON EXTENSIVE DATA 244 00:07:52,638 --> 00:07:54,407 COLLECTION AND PROFILING, THEY 245 00:07:54,407 --> 00:07:57,410 MAY ALSO REPRODUCE OR AMPLIFY 246 00:07:57,410 --> 00:07:59,745 EXISTING INEQUITIES EVEN WHEN 247 00:07:59,745 --> 00:08:00,279 PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS 248 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,282 AREN'T USED DIRECTLY. 249 00:08:03,282 --> 00:08:03,850 IMPORTANTLY, THIS ORDINANCE 250 00:08:03,850 --> 00:08:05,618 PROTECTS LEGITIMATE SALES, 251 00:08:05,618 --> 00:08:07,520 COUPONS AND LOYALTY DISCOUNTS. 252 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,689 IT DOESN'T PREVENT BUSINESSES 253 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:11,557 FROM OFFERING TRANSPARENT 254 00:08:11,557 --> 00:08:12,058 DISCOUNTS OR REWARDING 255 00:08:12,058 --> 00:08:13,893 CUSTOMERS. IT GUARDS AGAINST 256 00:08:13,893 --> 00:08:15,828 SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY 257 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:16,362 DIFFERENT. INDIVIDUALIZED 258 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:17,497 PRICING BASED ON BEING TRACKED 259 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:20,166 AND PROFILED. I URGE YOU TO PASS 260 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:21,601 A STRONG VERSION OF THIS 261 00:08:21,601 --> 00:08:23,369 ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A 262 00:08:23,369 --> 00:08:25,605 MARKETPLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN 263 00:08:25,605 --> 00:08:26,239 PARTICIPATE WITH CONFIDENCE THAT 264 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:27,273 THEY'RE BEING TREATED FAIRLY, 265 00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:28,674 AND NOT ONE WHERE THEY'RE 266 00:08:28,674 --> 00:08:30,243 PROFILED FOR WHAT THEY WILL PAY. 267 00:08:30,243 --> 00:08:32,712 THANK YOU. 268 00:08:32,712 --> 00:08:36,916 -- [APPLAUSE] 269 00:08:36,916 --> 00:08:37,250 -- THANK YOU. 270 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:39,385 -- T NEXT, WE HAVE SEPTE, 271 00:08:39,385 --> 00:08:44,123 FOLLOWED BY DAVID. 272 00:08:44,123 --> 00:08:45,224 -- HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE 273 00:08:45,224 --> 00:08:46,859 COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THE 274 00:08:46,859 --> 00:08:47,960 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU 275 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,228 TODAY. MY NAME IS SET. I USE 276 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:51,597 THEY THEM PRONOUNS AND I'M THE 277 00:08:51,597 --> 00:08:52,732 ADVOCACY AND PROGRAM MANAGER AT 278 00:08:52,732 --> 00:08:56,068 QUEER POWER ALLIANCE. WE WORK TO 279 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:58,271 BUILD COLLECTIVE POWER FOR QUEER 280 00:08:58,271 --> 00:08:58,971 LIBERATION, AND AS SUCH, WE ARE 281 00:08:58,971 --> 00:09:00,706 ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE ADVANCE A 282 00:09:00,706 --> 00:09:03,142 STRONG ORDINANCE AGAINST 283 00:09:03,142 --> 00:09:03,576 SURVEILLANCE BASED 284 00:09:03,576 --> 00:09:05,044 INDIVIDUALIZED PRICING TO THE 285 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:06,779 FULL COUNCIL. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT 286 00:09:06,779 --> 00:09:08,581 BE FORCED TO PAY DIFFERENT 287 00:09:08,581 --> 00:09:10,516 PRICES FOR THE SAME GOODS, 288 00:09:10,516 --> 00:09:13,853 BECAUSE SOME ALGORITHM ANALYZE 289 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:14,553 THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION. 290 00:09:14,553 --> 00:09:17,723 LGBTQ PLUS PEOPLE ALREADY 291 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:19,225 EXPERIENCE DISPROPORTIONATE 292 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:20,660 FINANCIAL BURDENS, AND THEREFORE 293 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:23,596 WE SPEND A LARGER PORTION OF OUR 294 00:09:23,596 --> 00:09:24,263 INCOMES ON NECESSITIES LIKE 295 00:09:24,263 --> 00:09:26,666 FOOD, HOUSING, AND 296 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:27,300 TRANSPORTATION. THE MAJORITY OF 297 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:28,701 OUR COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY 298 00:09:28,701 --> 00:09:29,702 EXPERIENCED HAVING TO GO WITHOUT 299 00:09:29,702 --> 00:09:31,671 BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE 300 00:09:31,671 --> 00:09:32,939 HEALTHCARE OR FOOD IN ORDER TO 301 00:09:32,939 --> 00:09:35,841 STAY HOUSED. WE DO OUR BEST TO 302 00:09:35,841 --> 00:09:36,842 KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE IN A 303 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,178 POLITICAL CLIMATE THAT IS 304 00:09:39,178 --> 00:09:39,779 CONSISTENTLY THREATENING OUR 305 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:41,614 VERY EXISTENCE AND ALLOWING 306 00:09:41,614 --> 00:09:43,549 COMPANIES TO UNFAIRLY PRICE 307 00:09:43,549 --> 00:09:44,951 RAISE PRICES WILL FURTHER 308 00:09:44,951 --> 00:09:47,053 DESTABILIZE OUR COMMUNITY. IN 309 00:09:47,053 --> 00:09:49,021 ADDITION, MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY 310 00:09:49,021 --> 00:09:50,756 MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY TRANS FOLKS 311 00:09:50,756 --> 00:09:53,359 AND PEOPLE OF COLOR, ARE 312 00:09:53,359 --> 00:09:53,926 INCREASINGLY CONCERNED WITH 313 00:09:53,926 --> 00:09:55,027 PRIVACY DUE TO OUR CURRENT 314 00:09:55,027 --> 00:09:57,997 NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION ALLOWING 315 00:09:57,997 --> 00:09:59,065 COMPANIES TO TRACK OUR LOCATION, 316 00:09:59,065 --> 00:10:01,467 DEVICE TYPE, BROWSING HISTORY, 317 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:03,803 INCOME INDICATORS, AND PAST 318 00:10:03,803 --> 00:10:04,904 PURCHASES PUTS US AT GREATER 319 00:10:04,904 --> 00:10:07,773 RISK OF GENDER AND RACIAL BASED 320 00:10:07,773 --> 00:10:09,041 VIOLENCE. WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU 321 00:10:09,041 --> 00:10:10,943 TO PROTECT OUR PRIVACY AND OUR 322 00:10:10,943 --> 00:10:12,578 ABILITY TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE IN 323 00:10:12,578 --> 00:10:14,280 THIS CITY. SO PLEASE ADVANCE A 324 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,681 STRONG ORDINANCE PROHIBITING 325 00:10:15,681 --> 00:10:17,149 SURVEILLANCE BASED PRICING TO 326 00:10:17,149 --> 00:10:18,551 THE FULL COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. 327 00:10:18,551 --> 00:10:21,020 THANK YOU AGAIN 328 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:23,623 -- THANK YOU. SETH 329 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:25,725 -- [APPLAUSE] 330 00:10:25,725 --> 00:10:26,058 -- ALL RIGHT. 331 00:10:26,058 --> 00:10:26,926 -- NEXT WE HAVE DAVID HAINES, 332 00:10:26,926 --> 00:10:30,463 FOLLOWED BY KATE RUBIN. 333 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:33,799 -- WE HAVE AN ONGOING HOMELESS 334 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:36,168 CRISIS AND A LACK OF LEADERSHIP 335 00:10:36,168 --> 00:10:38,404 TO REIMAGINE REGIONAL RESPONSE 336 00:10:38,404 --> 00:10:39,038 WITH STATE AND FEDERAL RESOURCES 337 00:10:39,038 --> 00:10:40,006 THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE THAT 338 00:10:40,006 --> 00:10:41,207 WE HAVE NOT USED THAT COULD 339 00:10:41,207 --> 00:10:43,843 STAND UP AUTHORIZED ENCAMPMENTS 340 00:10:43,843 --> 00:10:44,810 WITHIN 3 TO 10 DAYS WITH THE 341 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:46,612 FULL FIRST WORLD QUALITY 342 00:10:46,612 --> 00:10:48,214 UTILITIES, WITH THE NOBLE USE OF 343 00:10:48,214 --> 00:10:50,116 THE NATIONAL GUARD, THAT'S FREE 344 00:10:50,116 --> 00:10:51,250 LABOR. AND I DON'T SEE ANY 345 00:10:51,250 --> 00:10:54,020 EFFORT FROM COUNCIL TO REDEVELOP 346 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:55,554 AND TEAR DOWN ALL THOSE MOTELS 347 00:10:55,554 --> 00:10:57,590 THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN USED FOR 348 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:58,391 EXPLOITATION. THE THING IS, IS 349 00:10:58,391 --> 00:10:59,892 LIKE THE HUMAN SERVICES 350 00:10:59,892 --> 00:11:02,128 DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO BE INVESTING 351 00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:02,695 IN RUNNING INTERFERENCE FOR 352 00:11:02,695 --> 00:11:04,563 REPEAT OFFENDING CRIMINALS. 353 00:11:04,563 --> 00:11:06,499 THAT'S UNDERMINING THE INNOCENT 354 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:08,534 HOMELESS THAT ARE BEING WRONGLY 355 00:11:08,534 --> 00:11:09,135 AND UNNECESSARILY VICTIMIZED 356 00:11:09,135 --> 00:11:09,869 BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING 357 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:10,636 HELPED. BUT YOU ALL ARE OUT 358 00:11:10,636 --> 00:11:14,006 THERE TRYING TO FIND THE MOST 359 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:14,507 SELF-DESTRUCTIVE, MOST 360 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:15,741 PROFITABLE PEOPLE TO GOUGE 361 00:11:15,741 --> 00:11:18,244 MEDICAID WHO ARE LIKE, ALL UP ON 362 00:11:18,244 --> 00:11:19,045 DRUGS. EXCUSE MY FRENCH, BUT YOU 363 00:11:19,045 --> 00:11:20,279 ALL ARE NOT MAKING AN EFFORT TO 364 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:21,414 SHUT DOWN THE DRUG PUSHERS. YOU 365 00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:23,015 KEEP SEEMING LIKE SYMPATHIZING 366 00:11:23,015 --> 00:11:24,483 WITH THEM LIKE IT'S A POVERTY 367 00:11:24,483 --> 00:11:27,553 CRIME. BUT I ACTUALLY CAME DOWN 368 00:11:27,553 --> 00:11:28,187 HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE WORKERS 369 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:30,589 NEED A THREE AND A HALF DAY WORK 370 00:11:30,589 --> 00:11:33,692 WEEK, SEVEN DAY PAY, AND TAKE IT 371 00:11:33,692 --> 00:11:34,326 FROM THE NON-WORKING SHAREHOLDER 372 00:11:34,326 --> 00:11:36,195 MIDDLEMEN EVERY THREE MONTHS 373 00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:37,997 THAT ARE RECORDING RECORD 374 00:11:37,997 --> 00:11:39,198 PROFITS FROM WALL STREET WHILE 375 00:11:39,198 --> 00:11:40,433 THE WORKERS ARE FORCED TO LIVE 376 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:41,767 PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. AND WE 377 00:11:41,767 --> 00:11:45,705 NEED TO RENEGOTIATE THE 378 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:46,272 PERCEPTION OF VALUE IN THE 379 00:11:46,272 --> 00:11:47,840 PROPERTY THAT JOHN WILSON 380 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,508 INFLATED THAT THE BOSSES ARE 381 00:11:49,508 --> 00:11:51,043 USING AS THE EXCUSE TO TURN 382 00:11:51,043 --> 00:11:52,478 AGAINST THE WORKERS TO DEBT 383 00:11:52,478 --> 00:11:54,246 SERVICE A POLICE STATE ECONOMY 384 00:11:54,246 --> 00:11:57,016 OF A BUNCH OF NON-WORKING 385 00:11:57,016 --> 00:11:57,616 SHAREHOLDER MIDDLEMEN WHO OWN 386 00:11:57,616 --> 00:11:59,785 ALL THIS ILL SUITED, FLAWED 387 00:11:59,785 --> 00:12:02,655 FLOOR PLANS IN THE REAL ESTATE 388 00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:03,289 THAT ARE RIPPING OFF THE SMALL 389 00:12:03,289 --> 00:12:04,123 BUSINESSES THAT YOU ALL KEEP 390 00:12:04,123 --> 00:12:06,325 CHEERLEADING. BUT YOU'RE NOT 391 00:12:06,325 --> 00:12:08,794 REPRESENTING IN GOOD FAITH, 392 00:12:08,794 --> 00:12:10,296 PROTECTING THEM FROM THE ABUSE 393 00:12:10,296 --> 00:12:12,364 OF THE BANKS AND THE LIKE. 394 00:12:12,364 --> 00:12:15,835 ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED PROPERTY 395 00:12:15,835 --> 00:12:16,469 VALUES THAT CHEAT THE CONSUMER 396 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:18,771 AND THE BUSINESS OUT OF PROPER 397 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:20,673 FLOOR SPACES FOR THE GRACE OF 398 00:12:20,673 --> 00:12:21,307 ENJOYING YOURSELF WITHOUT BEING 399 00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:22,975 WITHOUT YOUR PERSONAL SPACE 400 00:12:22,975 --> 00:12:25,611 BEING INTERRUPTED. BUT WE COULD 401 00:12:25,611 --> 00:12:27,113 RENEGOTIATE THE RENT, THE LEASE 402 00:12:27,113 --> 00:12:28,447 AND DIAL DOWN. BUT THE THING IS, 403 00:12:28,447 --> 00:12:30,850 WE NEED A FARMERS MARKET CO-OP 404 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:33,385 WITH PERMANENT SHELF SPACE 247 405 00:12:33,385 --> 00:12:34,854 WITHOUT THE MIDDLEMAN SHAKING 406 00:12:34,854 --> 00:12:39,358 THEM DOWN THANK YOU. 407 00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:41,093 -- RIGHT. 408 00:12:41,093 --> 00:12:43,629 -- NEXT WE HAVE KATE RUBIN 409 00:12:43,629 --> 00:12:46,465 -- HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS 410 00:12:46,465 --> 00:12:47,133 KATE RUBIN AND I'M A RENTER IN 411 00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:48,601 DISTRICT TWO. I'M SPEAKING TODAY 412 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,803 ON BEHALF OF SEATTLE AND THE 413 00:12:50,803 --> 00:12:53,272 SEATTLE RENTERS COMMISSION IN 414 00:12:53,272 --> 00:12:54,673 SUPPORT OF THE FAIR PRICING AND 415 00:12:54,673 --> 00:12:57,309 TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE. RENTERS 416 00:12:57,309 --> 00:12:58,978 ALREADY SPEND AN ENORMOUS SHARE 417 00:12:58,978 --> 00:13:00,179 OF OUR INCOMES JUST KEEPING A 418 00:13:00,179 --> 00:13:01,680 ROOF OVER OUR HEADS. FOR MANY OF 419 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:03,115 US, THERE ISN'T MUCH LEFT OVER 420 00:13:03,115 --> 00:13:04,917 TO ABSORB ABSORB HIGHER PRICES 421 00:13:04,917 --> 00:13:06,418 FOR GROCERIES AND OTHER 422 00:13:06,418 --> 00:13:08,420 NECESSITIES, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE 423 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:10,623 THE TIME, TRANSPORTATION OR 424 00:13:10,623 --> 00:13:13,459 OPTIONS TO SHOP NEAR NEARBY. OUR 425 00:13:13,459 --> 00:13:14,026 PURCHASE HISTORY, LOCATION, 426 00:13:14,026 --> 00:13:15,494 BROWSING BEHAVIOR, OR OTHER 427 00:13:15,494 --> 00:13:17,329 PERSONAL INFORMATION SHOULD 428 00:13:17,329 --> 00:13:18,497 NEVER TELL AN ALGORITHM THAT WE 429 00:13:18,497 --> 00:13:19,565 CAN BE CHARGED MORE THAN THE 430 00:13:19,565 --> 00:13:21,700 PERSON STANDING NEXT TO US FOR 431 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:24,069 THE EXACT SAME PRODUCT. SPEAKING 432 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:25,604 AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I WAS 433 00:13:25,604 --> 00:13:27,006 DIAGNOSED WITH CELIAC DISEASE 434 00:13:27,006 --> 00:13:29,308 LAST YEAR, AND I'VE STRUGGLED 435 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:31,243 IMMENSELY WITH READING EVERY 436 00:13:31,243 --> 00:13:31,811 SINGLE LABEL AND COMPLETELY 437 00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:34,346 CHANGING MY DIET. MY GROCERY 438 00:13:34,346 --> 00:13:34,780 BILLS HAVE GONE UP 439 00:13:34,780 --> 00:13:35,748 SIGNIFICANTLY, AND I NOW HAVE 440 00:13:35,748 --> 00:13:36,949 FAR FEWER CHOICES ABOUT WHAT I 441 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:40,386 CAN BUY. THERE IS SOMETHING 442 00:13:40,386 --> 00:13:40,920 DEEPLY INSIDIOUS ABOUT AN 443 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,921 ALGORITHM LEARNING THAT I HAVE 444 00:13:41,921 --> 00:13:44,356 FEWER CHOICES. I'M USING THAT 445 00:13:44,356 --> 00:13:46,358 VULNERABILITY TO EXTRACT MORE 446 00:13:46,358 --> 00:13:47,726 MONEY FROM ME. THANK YOU TO 447 00:13:47,726 --> 00:13:48,294 COUNCILMEMBERS, FOSTER, AND 448 00:13:48,294 --> 00:13:49,428 RINCK FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON 449 00:13:49,428 --> 00:13:51,764 THIS. AND THANK YOU TO 450 00:13:51,764 --> 00:13:52,264 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA FOR 451 00:13:52,264 --> 00:13:53,666 CO-SPONSORING. PLEASE PASS A 452 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:55,034 STRONG ORDINANCE WITHOUT ANY 453 00:13:55,034 --> 00:13:56,502 WEAKENING LOOPHOLES TO THE FULL 454 00:13:56,502 --> 00:13:58,904 COUNCIL. THANK YOU. 455 00:13:58,904 --> 00:14:03,809 -- [APPLAUSE] 456 00:14:03,809 --> 00:14:09,815 -- THANK YOU KATE. NEXT, WE HAVE 457 00:14:09,815 --> 00:14:11,016 SEAN EMBLEY. AND FOLLOWED BY 458 00:14:11,016 --> 00:14:12,985 SEAN. I SEE WE HAVE SIGNED UP 459 00:14:12,985 --> 00:14:15,688 PASTOR JOE SHEERAN FOLLOWED BY 460 00:14:15,688 --> 00:14:18,190 JULIE BOYANA AND THEN JOHN 461 00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:20,526 PINCUS. SEAN. 462 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:21,894 -- HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, 463 00:14:21,894 --> 00:14:23,062 COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS SEAN 464 00:14:23,062 --> 00:14:25,698 EMBLEY. I'M THE SECRETARY 465 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:28,200 TREASURER OF RCW 3000. OUR UNION 466 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,903 REPRESENTS OVER 55,000 WORKERS 467 00:14:30,903 --> 00:14:32,204 ALL ACROSS THIS REGION, WHICH 468 00:14:32,204 --> 00:14:34,506 INCLUDES THOUSANDS OF GROCERY 469 00:14:34,506 --> 00:14:36,075 WORKERS RIGHT HERE IN KING 470 00:14:36,075 --> 00:14:38,344 COUNTY AND SEATTLE. OUR MEMBERS 471 00:14:38,344 --> 00:14:42,381 SEE EVERY DAY THE IMPACT THAT 472 00:14:42,381 --> 00:14:43,883 GROCERY PRICES HAVE ON WORKING 473 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,818 FAMILIES. THEY SEE CUSTOMERS 474 00:14:45,818 --> 00:14:46,352 CALCULATING WHAT THEY CAN 475 00:14:46,352 --> 00:14:48,087 AFFORD, PUTTING ITEMS BACK AND 476 00:14:48,087 --> 00:14:51,624 MAKING DIFFICULT CHOICES ABOUT 477 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:52,224 BASIC NECESSITIES. TECHNOLOGY 478 00:14:52,224 --> 00:14:53,893 SHOULD NOT MAKE THAT SITUATION 479 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,227 WORSE. BY ALLOWING A COMPANY TO 480 00:14:55,227 --> 00:14:57,963 USE PERSONAL INFORMATION, SUCH 481 00:14:57,963 --> 00:15:01,533 AS PURCHASE HISTORY, LOCATION, 482 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:02,067 BROWSER BEHAVIOR OR OTHER 483 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:03,936 CHARACTERISTICS TO DETERMINE THE 484 00:15:03,936 --> 00:15:06,472 PRICE THEY PAY WHEN PRICES 485 00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:08,908 BECOME LESS TRANSPARENT AND 486 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,843 CUSTOMERS CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY 487 00:15:10,843 --> 00:15:11,410 THEY'RE BEING CHARGED A 488 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:12,945 PARTICULAR AMOUNT, WORKERS 489 00:15:12,945 --> 00:15:14,346 ANSWER FOR THOSE DECISIONS MADE 490 00:15:14,346 --> 00:15:16,081 BY CORPORATE ALGORITHMS THAT 491 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:19,551 THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. THIS 492 00:15:19,551 --> 00:15:21,387 ORDINANCE DOES NOTHING TO 493 00:15:21,387 --> 00:15:22,021 PROHIBIT ORDINARY SALES, COUPONS 494 00:15:22,021 --> 00:15:24,223 OR LOYALTY DISCOUNTS OFFERED ON 495 00:15:24,223 --> 00:15:26,592 EQUAL TERMS. IT SAYS THAT 496 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:28,093 DISCOUNTS SHOULD BE BASED OFF 497 00:15:28,093 --> 00:15:29,561 THE OFFER, NOT ON WHAT AN 498 00:15:29,561 --> 00:15:32,031 ALGORITHM BELIEVES. IT KNOWS 499 00:15:32,031 --> 00:15:33,565 ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL SHOPPER. 500 00:15:33,565 --> 00:15:36,068 SEATTLE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO 501 00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:36,702 ESTABLISH THIS PROTECTION BEFORE 502 00:15:36,702 --> 00:15:38,437 SURVEILLANCE BASED PRICING 503 00:15:38,437 --> 00:15:39,772 BECOMES NORMALIZED. CUSTOMERS 504 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:41,273 SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A 505 00:15:41,273 --> 00:15:42,808 GROCERY STORE KNOWING THAT THE 506 00:15:42,808 --> 00:15:43,942 PRICE THEY SEE IS THE PRICE THEY 507 00:15:43,942 --> 00:15:47,379 WILL PAY, NOT A PRICE CALCULATED 508 00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:48,947 FROM THEIR PERSONAL DATA ON 509 00:15:48,947 --> 00:15:50,783 BEHALF OF UFCW W 3000 AND OUR 510 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,485 MEMBERS, I URGE YOU TO ADVANCE 511 00:15:53,485 --> 00:15:54,119 THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE ORDINANCE 512 00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:59,191 TO THE FULL COUNCIL. THANK YOU. 513 00:15:59,191 --> 00:15:59,525 -- [APPLAUSE] 514 00:15:59,525 --> 00:16:02,661 -- DIONNE 515 00:16:02,661 --> 00:16:04,563 -- NEXT UP, WE HAVE PASTOR JOE 516 00:16:04,563 --> 00:16:06,098 SHEERIN, FOLLOWED BY JULIE, 517 00:16:06,098 --> 00:16:08,300 BRIANNA, JOHN PINKUS, MAYA 518 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:15,407 MORALES, AND THEN MACI. GREAT 519 00:16:15,407 --> 00:16:15,708 PASTOR JOE. 520 00:16:15,708 --> 00:16:16,608 -- HOWDY, THANKS FOR THIS TIME 521 00:16:16,608 --> 00:16:17,910 TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL. I AM 522 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:19,211 PASTOR JOE SHEERIN OF WOODLAND 523 00:16:19,211 --> 00:16:21,113 PARK PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WHICH 524 00:16:21,113 --> 00:16:23,315 IS IN DISTRICT SIX. ALTHOUGH I 525 00:16:23,315 --> 00:16:25,918 LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN, WE HAVE 526 00:16:25,918 --> 00:16:27,319 MEMBERS FROM AROUND THE CITY. WE 527 00:16:27,319 --> 00:16:28,887 ARE PART OF THE ALLIANCE. I'M 528 00:16:28,887 --> 00:16:30,656 HERE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF OUR 529 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:32,991 FRIENDS AND ALLIES IN UFC 3000 530 00:16:32,991 --> 00:16:35,794 WHO HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD ON THIS 531 00:16:35,794 --> 00:16:36,428 CAMPAIGN AGAINST SURVEILLANCE, 532 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:38,230 PRICING. MANY MEMBERS OF MY 533 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:40,432 CONGREGATION HAVE EXPERIENCED 534 00:16:40,432 --> 00:16:41,700 FOOD INSECURITY AT DIFFERENT 535 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,434 TIMES IN THEIR LIFE. AND TODAY, 536 00:16:42,434 --> 00:16:44,903 ONE OF OUR STRONGEST MINISTRIES 537 00:16:44,903 --> 00:16:46,238 IS CARING FOR THE HUNGRY IN OUR 538 00:16:46,238 --> 00:16:47,940 NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE A FOOD 539 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:49,375 PANTRY THAT WE KEEP ON THE 540 00:16:49,375 --> 00:16:52,144 STREET. IT IS STOCKED EVERY DAY 541 00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:53,178 WITH FOOD, AND THE FOOD RUNS OUT 542 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:57,449 AS FAST AS IT CAN. SURVEILLANCE 543 00:16:57,449 --> 00:16:58,650 PRICING HITS THE PEOPLE THAT 544 00:16:58,650 --> 00:16:59,952 RELY ON THAT PANTRY. IT HITS THE 545 00:16:59,952 --> 00:17:01,086 PEOPLE THAT STOCKED THAT PANTRY, 546 00:17:01,086 --> 00:17:02,755 AND IT HITS THE PEOPLE WHO 547 00:17:02,755 --> 00:17:04,490 REMEMBER A TIME WHEN THEY 548 00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:05,124 COULDN'T FEED THEIR FAMILIES 549 00:17:05,124 --> 00:17:07,693 RELIABLY. PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR 550 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:08,761 FRIENDS HERE TODAY ABOUT WHY 551 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:10,763 THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO NOT NEED 552 00:17:10,763 --> 00:17:16,969 IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU 553 00:17:16,969 --> 00:17:17,302 -- [APPLAUSE] 554 00:17:17,302 --> 00:17:17,636 -- THANK YOU. 555 00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:22,241 -- [APPLAUSE] 556 00:17:22,241 --> 00:17:29,214 -- NEXT UP IS JULIE. 557 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:30,949 -- HELLO. I'M GONNA GO WITH 558 00:17:30,949 --> 00:17:33,619 THIS ONE. MY NAME IS JULIE. I'M 559 00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:35,020 THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE 560 00:17:35,020 --> 00:17:36,422 WASHINGTON FAIR TRADE COALITION, 561 00:17:36,422 --> 00:17:38,924 WHICH IS A COALITION OF 70 LABOR 562 00:17:38,924 --> 00:17:41,059 UNIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL 563 00:17:41,059 --> 00:17:42,127 ORGANIZATIONS, MIGRANT DEFENSE, 564 00:17:42,127 --> 00:17:44,596 TECH, PRIVACY, AND OTHER 565 00:17:44,596 --> 00:17:45,164 ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTED TO 566 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:46,765 HOLDING CORPORATIONS ACCOUNTABLE 567 00:17:46,765 --> 00:17:49,134 AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNANCE. 568 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:51,970 I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FAIR 569 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:53,205 PRICING ORDINANCE. THANK YOU SO 570 00:17:53,205 --> 00:17:54,073 MUCH TO COUNCILMEMBERS, FOSTER, 571 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:55,307 AND RINCK FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK 572 00:17:55,307 --> 00:17:58,043 ON THIS AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 573 00:17:58,043 --> 00:18:01,146 FOR CO-SPONSORING. YOU KNOW, I 574 00:18:01,146 --> 00:18:02,948 URGE FOLKS TO PASS THE STRONGEST 575 00:18:02,948 --> 00:18:04,950 VERSION OF THIS BILL OUT OF 576 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:07,519 COMMITTEE WITHOUT ANY CORPORATE 577 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,488 LOOPHOLES. YOU KNOW, IN MY WORK, 578 00:18:09,488 --> 00:18:11,056 WHETHER I'M AT A LOCAL UNION 579 00:18:11,056 --> 00:18:12,424 MEETING, A PICKET LINE, A 580 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:13,992 MIGRANT DEFENSE RALLY, FOLKS ARE 581 00:18:13,992 --> 00:18:15,828 REALLY FEARFUL ABOUT THESE 582 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,663 ALGORITHMS THAT MAKE DECISIONS 583 00:18:17,663 --> 00:18:19,331 IMPACTING THEIR DAY TO DAY LIVES 584 00:18:19,331 --> 00:18:22,468 WITH LITTLE TO NO OVERSIGHT, 585 00:18:22,468 --> 00:18:23,535 HUMAN OVERSIGHT. SO WHETHER 586 00:18:23,535 --> 00:18:25,571 IT'S A HIRING OR FIRING 587 00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:27,606 DECISION AT WORK, WHETHER IT'S A 588 00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:29,775 HOUSING DECISION, THE WAY THAT 589 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:31,076 ALGORITHMS HAVE BEEN USED TO 590 00:18:31,076 --> 00:18:32,344 ILLEGALLY TRACK DOWN AND DETAIN 591 00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:35,280 OUR MIGRANT NEIGHBORS, AND NOW 592 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,782 ALGORITHMS SOURCING OUR DATA OR 593 00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:37,816 DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT WORKING 594 00:18:37,816 --> 00:18:38,817 FAMILIES CAN PUT FOOD ON THE 595 00:18:38,817 --> 00:18:41,386 TABLE, WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE. 596 00:18:41,386 --> 00:18:42,554 YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT 597 00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:44,490 NOT TO TAKE CORPORATE LOBBYISTS 598 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:46,058 AT THEIR WORD. THE IDEA THAT 599 00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:47,326 THEY ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT WHETHER 600 00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:48,927 OR NOT WORKING FAMILIES CAN PUT 601 00:18:48,927 --> 00:18:50,596 FOOD ON THE TABLE IS A BIT 602 00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:53,432 ABSURD. YOU KNOW, THEY CARE 603 00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,066 ABOUT THEIR SHAREHOLDER PROFITS. 604 00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:55,968 AND IF THEY REALLY CARED ABOUT 605 00:18:55,968 --> 00:18:56,535 WORKING PEOPLE AND WORKING 606 00:18:56,535 --> 00:18:57,970 FAMILIES, MAYBE THEY WOULD PAY 607 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:01,273 WORKERS A LIVING WAGE. MAYBE 608 00:19:01,273 --> 00:19:01,907 THEY WOULD STOP CLOSING GROCERY 609 00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:03,609 STORES AND COMMUNITIES THAT RELY 610 00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:06,678 ON THEM. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, 611 00:19:06,678 --> 00:19:09,281 WE SHOULD BE REALLY HONEST ABOUT 612 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,616 THEIR MOTIVE, WHICH IS 613 00:19:10,616 --> 00:19:11,183 SHAREHOLDER PROFIT. AND SO 614 00:19:11,183 --> 00:19:13,952 AGAIN, THANK YOU. AND I HOPE TO 615 00:19:13,952 --> 00:19:14,553 SEE THE STRONGEST VERSION OF 616 00:19:14,553 --> 00:19:17,623 THIS BILL COME OUT OF COMMITTEE 617 00:19:17,623 --> 00:19:22,494 -- [APPLAUSE] 618 00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:22,928 -- THANK YOU JULIE. 619 00:19:22,928 --> 00:19:24,329 -- NEXT UP WE HAVE JOHN FOLLOWED 620 00:19:24,329 --> 00:19:27,432 BY MAYA. THEN AMASAI. 621 00:19:27,432 --> 00:19:29,768 -- THANK YOU. I'M JOHN PINCUS 622 00:19:29,768 --> 00:19:31,737 FROM THE NEXUS OF PRIVACY HERE 623 00:19:31,737 --> 00:19:33,605 IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE TO 624 00:19:33,605 --> 00:19:35,173 BAN SURVEILLANCE PRICING. THANK 625 00:19:35,173 --> 00:19:37,042 YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS RINCK AND 626 00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,243 FOSTER. AND FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN 627 00:19:38,243 --> 00:19:40,846 BRINGING THIS REALLY IMPORTANT 628 00:19:40,846 --> 00:19:41,480 BILL INTO COUNCILMEMBER SAKA AS 629 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,849 WELL FOR CO-SPONSORING. SO NOW 630 00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:45,918 PLEASE BUILD ON THIS EXCELLENT 631 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:47,419 FOUNDATION BY PASSING A STRONG 632 00:19:47,419 --> 00:19:48,820 BILL AS POSSIBLE OUT OF 633 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:50,455 COMMITTEE TODAY. AND AND DON'T 634 00:19:50,455 --> 00:19:53,025 GIVE IN TO INDUSTRY LOBBYISTS 635 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:55,794 THREATS OF OF UNINTENDED 636 00:19:55,794 --> 00:19:57,829 CONSEQUENCES AND THEIR MASS 637 00:19:57,829 --> 00:20:00,032 TEXTING CAMPAIGNS TO TRY TO 638 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,534 SPREAD DISINFORMATION, YOU KNOW, 639 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:04,403 THEY WANT LOOPHOLES. AND AS, AS 640 00:20:04,403 --> 00:20:07,172 JULIE SAID, THEY'RE VERY SNEAKY 641 00:20:07,172 --> 00:20:10,142 ABOUT PROPOSING PLAUSIBLE 642 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,678 LOOKING CLARIFICATIONS THAT 643 00:20:12,678 --> 00:20:14,513 REALLY GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO 644 00:20:14,513 --> 00:20:16,648 USE THIS PERSONAL INFORMATION IN 645 00:20:16,648 --> 00:20:18,016 ALL KINDS OF UNDERHANDED WAYS, 646 00:20:18,016 --> 00:20:19,084 LIKE TO DO MASS TEXTING 647 00:20:19,084 --> 00:20:20,919 CAMPAIGNS, FOR EXAMPLE. AND, YOU 648 00:20:20,919 --> 00:20:22,221 KNOW, I TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT 649 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,655 THE IMPORTANCE OF A STRONG 650 00:20:23,655 --> 00:20:24,957 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION. WE 651 00:20:24,957 --> 00:20:26,959 DON'T WANT TO LET THEM BREAK 652 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:28,794 THE LAW. AND THEN JUST THINK 653 00:20:28,794 --> 00:20:30,229 THEY CAN PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH 654 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,397 IT OR PAY THE FINES AS A COST OF 655 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,933 DOING BUSINESS. THE THE 656 00:20:34,933 --> 00:20:38,203 ORDINANCE VERY RIGHTLY EXEMPTS 657 00:20:38,203 --> 00:20:39,538 SMALL BUSINESSES. THEY'RE NOT 658 00:20:39,538 --> 00:20:41,073 EVEN COVERED BY THIS ORDINANCE. 659 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,275 IT ONLY APPLIES TO LARGE 660 00:20:43,275 --> 00:20:43,909 RETAILERS AND DELIVERY CHAINS. 661 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:45,777 AND WHEN THE BIG GUYS BREAK THE 662 00:20:45,777 --> 00:20:48,013 LAW, WE REALLY NEED MEANINGFUL 663 00:20:48,013 --> 00:20:50,949 ACCOUNTABILITY. SO PLEASE PASS A 664 00:20:50,949 --> 00:20:51,984 STRONG VERSION OF THIS BILL OUT 665 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:53,885 OF COMMITTEE AS POSSIBLE AND 666 00:20:53,885 --> 00:20:55,988 THEN DEFEND IT FIRMLY AS IT 667 00:20:55,988 --> 00:20:59,691 REACHES THE FULL COUNCIL. THANK 668 00:20:59,691 --> 00:20:59,891 YOU. 669 00:20:59,891 --> 00:21:03,695 -- [APPLAUSE] 670 00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:05,797 -- THANK YOU, JOHN. 671 00:21:05,797 --> 00:21:07,199 -- NEXT, WE HAVE MAYA, FOLLOWED 672 00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:14,773 BY MASAI, AND THEN NICOLE SAKA. 673 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:16,008 -- HEY EVERYONE, FOR THE RECORD, 674 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:18,310 MY MORALES, FOUNDER OF 675 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:18,977 WASHINGTON PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. I 676 00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:19,845 THINK SO MANY AMAZING THINGS 677 00:21:19,845 --> 00:21:21,580 HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID BY 678 00:21:21,580 --> 00:21:22,614 WORKERS, BY EVERYDAY FOLKS WHO 679 00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:27,352 ARE IMPACTED BY THE PRICE OF 680 00:21:27,352 --> 00:21:28,887 GROCERIES AND BY BIG TECH 681 00:21:28,887 --> 00:21:31,123 TEAMING UP WITH BIG GROCERY TO 682 00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,291 REALLY BECOME SORT OF PREDATORY 683 00:21:33,291 --> 00:21:35,127 AND, AND KIND OF BE STALKING 684 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,028 PEOPLE DOWN IN THE AISLES. ARE 685 00:21:36,028 --> 00:21:36,862 YOU BUYING THIS KIND OF BREAD? 686 00:21:36,862 --> 00:21:38,263 ARE YOU BUYING THAT KIND OF, YOU 687 00:21:38,263 --> 00:21:41,033 KNOW, SNACK, THIS, THIS MUCH 688 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:43,435 TOILET PAPER PER WEEK? IT'S 689 00:21:43,435 --> 00:21:46,171 BECOMING REALLY OVER THE TOP. 690 00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:46,672 EXACTLY HOW INVASIVELY 691 00:21:46,672 --> 00:21:48,707 SURVEILLED WE ARE IN EVERY 692 00:21:48,707 --> 00:21:50,876 ASPECT OF OUR LIVES. IT REALLY 693 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:52,711 DOES FEEL LIKE IS IT ASKING TOO 694 00:21:52,711 --> 00:21:54,346 MUCH TO JUST GO TO THE GROCERY 695 00:21:54,346 --> 00:21:57,215 STORE AND NOT BE INVASIVELY 696 00:21:57,215 --> 00:21:58,884 TRACKED? AND SO I WANT TO 697 00:21:58,884 --> 00:22:00,986 APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 698 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:01,953 AND HER STAFF. I WANT TO 699 00:22:01,953 --> 00:22:05,257 APPRECIATE MAIN SPONSOR 700 00:22:05,257 --> 00:22:08,760 COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. I WANT TO 701 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,663 APPRECIATE SPONSOR DIONNE FOSTER 702 00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:12,130 COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 703 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:14,666 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. AND AS WELL 704 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:15,300 CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER 705 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:16,168 HOLLINGSWORTH. I KNOW YOU ALL 706 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:18,737 ARE DEEPLY ENGAGED IN TRYING TO 707 00:22:18,737 --> 00:22:19,805 DO THE BEST FOR SEATTLE, AND I 708 00:22:19,805 --> 00:22:21,106 JUST REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE 709 00:22:21,106 --> 00:22:23,275 THIS WORK. I KNOW IT'S NOT 710 00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:24,142 EASY. AND I ALSO, YOU KNOW, WANT 711 00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:26,278 TO ECHO WHAT PREVIOUS SPEAKERS 712 00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:27,946 HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S 713 00:22:27,946 --> 00:22:30,449 REALLY, REALLY HARD TO STAND UP 714 00:22:30,449 --> 00:22:31,216 TO BILLIONAIRES. I KNOW THAT, 715 00:22:31,216 --> 00:22:32,884 BUT WE ALL HAVE YOUR BACK AND WE 716 00:22:32,884 --> 00:22:34,486 ALL BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GET 717 00:22:34,486 --> 00:22:35,554 THIS DONE AND ARE REALLY, REALLY 718 00:22:35,554 --> 00:22:37,489 PROUD OF THIS WORK. I ALSO WANT 719 00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:39,858 TO JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY 720 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:42,294 STRONG AND KEEP THESE POSITIONS 721 00:22:42,294 --> 00:22:44,496 PRIVATE. RIGHT OF ACTION IS 722 00:22:44,496 --> 00:22:45,731 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS, AS HAS 723 00:22:45,731 --> 00:22:47,666 BEEN MENTIONED, IT'S LITERALLY 724 00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,301 ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN 725 00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:51,870 ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT THESE 726 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,138 BIG CORPORATIONS DO HAVE TO 727 00:22:53,138 --> 00:22:55,107 FOLLOW THE LAW, AND OTHERWISE 728 00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:57,676 THEY GET AWAY WITH BREAKING LAWS 729 00:22:57,676 --> 00:22:59,344 ALL THE TIME. AND THE PEOPLE WHO 730 00:22:59,344 --> 00:23:01,880 SUFFER THE MOST FOR, YOU KNOW, 731 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,482 FROM THAT ARE FOLKS WHO ARE 732 00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:05,450 DIRECTLY IMPACTED THE MOST AND 733 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:07,219 WHO HAVE THE LEAST ABILITY TO 734 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:08,253 GET THAT ENFORCEMENT DONE. AND 735 00:23:08,253 --> 00:23:09,321 SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY 736 00:23:09,321 --> 00:23:10,555 IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THAT 737 00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:12,424 STRONG. AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST, 738 00:23:12,424 --> 00:23:15,227 YOU KNOW, IF THE GENERAL REST OF 739 00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:20,432 THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS 740 00:23:20,432 --> 00:23:20,899 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 741 00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:23,335 -- THANK YOU. MAYA. 742 00:23:23,335 --> 00:23:28,240 -- [APPLAUSE] 743 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,475 -- WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, AND 744 00:23:30,475 --> 00:23:32,978 COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME IS KIKI 745 00:23:32,978 --> 00:23:35,213 AND I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR AT 746 00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:37,149 LAVENDER RIGHTS PROJECT, AND 747 00:23:37,149 --> 00:23:39,718 LAVENDER RIGHTS ARE REALLY 748 00:23:39,718 --> 00:23:40,352 SUPPORTS SEATTLE'S POSITION. 749 00:23:40,352 --> 00:23:43,088 PROPOSED BAN ON CIVIL ENSIGN 750 00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:44,990 PRICING. THIS BUILDS ON TO OUR 751 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:46,825 ADVOCACY ON THIS ISSUE AT THE 752 00:23:46,825 --> 00:23:48,827 STATE LEGISLATURE. OUR WORK 753 00:23:48,827 --> 00:23:50,729 REALLY CENTERS BLACK, TRANS AND 754 00:23:50,729 --> 00:23:52,864 GENDER DIVERSE COMMUNITIES AND 755 00:23:52,864 --> 00:23:55,267 ADDRESSES THE CONDITIONS THAT 756 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:55,901 UNDERMINE OUR SAFETY AND ABILITY 757 00:23:55,901 --> 00:24:01,907 TO THRIVE. AND SO ACCESS TO 758 00:24:01,907 --> 00:24:02,441 AFFORDABLE FOOD, ECONOMIC 759 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:03,074 STABILITY AND PRIVACY IS PART OF 760 00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:05,744 THAT WORK. SURVEILLANCE PRICING 761 00:24:05,744 --> 00:24:08,246 ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO USE 762 00:24:08,246 --> 00:24:08,747 PERSONAL INFORMATION TO 763 00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:10,782 DETERMINE WHAT INDIVIDUAL 764 00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:11,583 SHOPPERS PAY. OUR CONCERN IS 765 00:24:11,583 --> 00:24:14,786 THAT THESE PRACTICES CAN DEEPEN 766 00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:17,088 THE EXISTING INEQUALITIES BY 767 00:24:17,088 --> 00:24:19,858 TURNING INFORMATION ABOUT 768 00:24:19,858 --> 00:24:20,492 PEOPLE'S CIRCUMSTANCES INTO 769 00:24:20,492 --> 00:24:22,994 OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE, TO EVEN 770 00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:24,529 CHARGE THEM MORE. AND SO FOR 771 00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:27,232 BLACK TRANS PEOPLE AND 772 00:24:27,232 --> 00:24:27,799 COMMUNITIES THAT ARE FACING 773 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,101 DISCRIMINATION IN EMPLOYMENT AND 774 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:31,903 HOUSING AND THE COST OF BASIC 775 00:24:31,903 --> 00:24:33,705 NECESSITIES, THEY MATTER. AND 776 00:24:33,705 --> 00:24:38,376 WHEN SOMEONE HAS LIMITED INCOME 777 00:24:38,376 --> 00:24:38,944 OR TRANSPORTATION OR SIMPLY 778 00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:41,012 SHOPPING SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE 779 00:24:41,012 --> 00:24:43,782 ELSE MAY NOT BE AN OPTION. AND 780 00:24:43,782 --> 00:24:46,451 SO WE ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE 781 00:24:46,451 --> 00:24:49,754 SUGGESTION THAT BENDING 782 00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:50,388 SURVEILLANCE PRICING WOULD HARM 783 00:24:50,388 --> 00:24:51,890 LGBTQ COMMUNITIES. OUR 784 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:53,358 COMMUNITIES INCLUDE WORKERS, 785 00:24:53,358 --> 00:24:55,894 TENANTS AND FAMILIES. WHO 786 00:24:55,894 --> 00:24:58,230 DESERVE AFFORDABLE GROCERIES AND 787 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:58,763 PROTECTION FROM ECONOMIC 788 00:24:58,763 --> 00:25:00,966 EXPLOITATION. THEIR NEEDS MUST 789 00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:03,368 BE CENTRAL INTO THIS 790 00:25:03,368 --> 00:25:06,571 CONVERSATION, AND SO THAT THE 791 00:25:06,571 --> 00:25:09,007 PROPOSAL PRESERVES LEGITIMATE 792 00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:12,611 COUPONS AND TRANSPARENT 793 00:25:12,611 --> 00:25:13,211 DISCOUNTS WHILE ESTABLISHING 794 00:25:13,211 --> 00:25:16,381 BOUNDARIES AGAINST PRICING UPON 795 00:25:16,381 --> 00:25:18,850 BASED ON PERSONAL DATA AND SO 796 00:25:18,850 --> 00:25:20,352 POSITIONS LIKE THIS FOR LAVENDER 797 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:21,853 RIGHTS PROJECT IS VERY CLEAR 798 00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:25,023 THAT PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES 799 00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:26,625 INCLUDE PROTECTING THEIR ABILITY 800 00:25:26,625 --> 00:25:27,893 TO MEET BASIC NEEDS WITH A LOT 801 00:25:27,893 --> 00:25:30,362 OF DIGNITY, AND THAT NOBODY 802 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,297 SHOULD HAVE TO SURRENDER THEIR 803 00:25:32,297 --> 00:25:33,765 PRIVACY TO AFFORD FOOD. THANK 804 00:25:33,765 --> 00:25:36,301 YOU 805 00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:39,271 -- [APPLAUSE] 806 00:25:39,271 --> 00:25:41,673 -- THANK YOU. AMICI. 807 00:25:41,673 --> 00:25:43,675 -- NEXT, WE HAVE NICOLE SAKA AND 808 00:25:43,675 --> 00:25:46,545 THEN FOLLOWED BY NICOLE. WE HAVE 809 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:47,245 TWO FINAL IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. 810 00:25:47,245 --> 00:25:48,280 I'M JUST GOING TO READ THEM 811 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,815 INTO THE RECORD SO THEY'RE 812 00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:55,153 READY. KYONG MAAN AND THEN 813 00:25:55,153 --> 00:25:55,520 ALTHEA LOZANO. 814 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,989 -- HELLO, I AM NICOLE SAKA. I 815 00:25:57,989 --> 00:25:59,090 LIVE IN BEACON HILL. I'M A 816 00:25:59,090 --> 00:26:02,394 MEMBER OF SOUND ALLIANCE, AND 817 00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:04,195 I'M HERE TO SPEAK UP FOR AN 818 00:26:04,195 --> 00:26:05,764 ISSUE THAT IMPACTS MYSELF AND MY 819 00:26:05,764 --> 00:26:07,198 LOVED ONES, AS WELL AS MY 820 00:26:07,198 --> 00:26:09,234 FRIENDS AT U OF C, W 3000. AND 821 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:12,737 EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM. I GREW UP 822 00:26:12,737 --> 00:26:13,872 WITH MY MOM CAREFULLY PLANNING 823 00:26:13,872 --> 00:26:17,676 MEALS TO BE $2 PER SERVING, AND 824 00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:18,343 I CAN'T IMAGINE THE ANXIETY SHE 825 00:26:18,343 --> 00:26:20,512 WOULD HAVE FELT IF THE 826 00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:22,580 INGREDIENTS ENDED UP BEING EVEN 827 00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:23,782 A FEW CENTS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN 828 00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:25,550 SHE WAS ANTICIPATING WHEN SHE 829 00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:28,553 MADE HER LIST, SHE WORKED THREE 830 00:26:28,553 --> 00:26:30,655 JOBS AND WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TIME 831 00:26:30,655 --> 00:26:31,222 TO VISIT MULTIPLE STORES IN 832 00:26:31,222 --> 00:26:34,759 ORDER TO FIND BETTER PRICES. 833 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,127 SURVEILLANCE PRICING 834 00:26:36,127 --> 00:26:38,263 PARTICULARLY IMPACTS THOSE WHO 835 00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:38,797 ARE ALREADY ECONOMICALLY 836 00:26:38,797 --> 00:26:40,265 VULNERABLE, THOSE WHO ARE 837 00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:42,500 DISABLED AND LIMITED IN MOBILITY 838 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,002 OR ENERGY, OR THOSE WHO DO NOT 839 00:26:44,002 --> 00:26:47,339 OWN A CAR. EVERYTHING'S GETTING 840 00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:48,039 WAY MORE EXPENSIVE NOW. I DON'T 841 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:49,407 WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION THAT 842 00:26:49,407 --> 00:26:50,976 MY MOM WAS IN WHEN I WAS GROWING 843 00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:53,044 UP, CARRYING ALL THAT ANXIETY AS 844 00:26:53,044 --> 00:26:55,480 EVERYTHING IS MORE AND MORE 845 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,582 PRICEY. I'M ALSO ON STAFF AT 846 00:26:57,582 --> 00:26:58,483 WALLINGFORD PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, 847 00:26:58,483 --> 00:27:00,852 AND I'M HERE BECAUSE MY FAITH 848 00:27:00,852 --> 00:27:02,687 TEACHES ME THAT EVERY PERSON IS 849 00:27:02,687 --> 00:27:04,422 PRECIOUS, THAT THEIR ACCESS TO 850 00:27:04,422 --> 00:27:07,792 BASIC NEEDS, SUCH AS FOOD, 851 00:27:07,792 --> 00:27:09,594 SHOULD BE PROTECTED DILIGENTLY, 852 00:27:09,594 --> 00:27:12,063 AND THAT THIS PLANET SHOULD BE 853 00:27:12,063 --> 00:27:12,664 PROTECTED THROUGH RESPONSIBLE 854 00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:15,000 BOUNDARIES OF TECHNOLOGIES, ON 855 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,634 TECHNOLOGIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO 856 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,670 CLIMATE CHANGE. I WANT TO KEEP 857 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:19,437 LIVING IN SEATTLE. I LOVE IT 858 00:27:19,437 --> 00:27:21,640 HERE. I WANT TO BUILD MY LIFE 859 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,440 HERE. IT'S GETTING PRICIER ALL 860 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,109 THE TIME, AND THIS WOULD ONLY 861 00:27:24,109 --> 00:27:26,778 CONTRIBUTE TO THAT MORE. AND 862 00:27:26,778 --> 00:27:28,046 IT'S INCREDIBLY HARD THESE DAYS 863 00:27:28,046 --> 00:27:31,316 TO MAINTAIN OUR PRIVACY. OUR 864 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:31,950 WORLD KEEPS FUNCTIONING MORE AND 865 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:33,785 MORE VIRTUALLY. WE MAKE CHOICES 866 00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:35,954 THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND WE 867 00:27:35,954 --> 00:27:37,389 CAN'T TAKE IT BACK. WE CAN'T 868 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:38,056 TAKE INFORMATION BACK. AND SO WE 869 00:27:38,056 --> 00:27:40,158 NEED YOU, OUR REPRESENTATIVES, 870 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:41,760 TO HELP PROTECT US FROM 871 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,627 SURVEILLANCE THAT INCREASINGLY 872 00:27:42,627 --> 00:27:46,297 IS BEING USED AGAINST US. SO I 873 00:27:46,297 --> 00:27:48,666 ASK THAT YOU WOULD PLEASE 874 00:27:48,666 --> 00:27:49,968 ADVANCE THIS ORDINANCE IN A 875 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,371 STRONGEST FORM TO THE FULL 876 00:27:53,371 --> 00:27:53,805 COUNCIL. THANK YOU. 877 00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:56,741 -- [APPLAUSE] 878 00:27:56,741 --> 00:27:58,209 -- THANK YOU. NICOLE. 879 00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:05,350 -- NEXT UP, WE HAVE KYONG. 880 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:06,484 -- HI. I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN. 881 00:28:06,484 --> 00:28:09,187 I WORK AT A GROCERY STORE AND WE 882 00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:12,957 ALREADY KIND OF HAVE THIS, THIS 883 00:28:12,957 --> 00:28:13,558 SURVEILLANCE PRICING. IT'S 884 00:28:13,558 --> 00:28:15,293 CALLED DIGITAL APP. SOME PEOPLE 885 00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:17,362 WHO DON'T HAVE DIGITAL PHONES 886 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:20,432 CANNOT USE IT. THEY CAN'T GET 887 00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:23,068 THE SPECIAL PRICE. PEOPLE WITH 888 00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:23,601 LANGUAGE BARRIERS DON'T 889 00:28:23,601 --> 00:28:24,803 UNDERSTAND. THEY HAVE TO 890 00:28:24,803 --> 00:28:28,973 DOWNLOAD AN APP AND CLICK ON IT. 891 00:28:28,973 --> 00:28:30,709 SO AND THIS INFORMATION IS BEING 892 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,877 GIVEN AND BEING SOLD TO 893 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:34,813 MARKETERS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT 894 00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:36,614 ALL THESE GROCERY STORES ARE 895 00:28:36,614 --> 00:28:38,850 DOING. AND I SEE MY CUSTOMERS 896 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:41,019 THAT COME IN AND THEIR PRICES 897 00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:43,922 ARE RIDICULOUS. THREE BAGS OF 898 00:28:43,922 --> 00:28:46,391 ITEMS IS OVER $100. HOW CAN 899 00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:48,126 ANYONE AFFORD GROCERIES 900 00:28:48,126 --> 00:28:49,227 NOWADAYS? AND IT'S EVEN GOING TO 901 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,930 GET WORSE. SO WE NEED YOU GUYS 902 00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:54,732 TO PLEASE, PLEASE BE WITH YOUR 903 00:28:54,732 --> 00:28:57,302 CITIZENS AND PLEASE PASS THIS 904 00:28:57,302 --> 00:28:59,771 ORDINANCE. AND DON'T LET THE 905 00:28:59,771 --> 00:29:01,473 CORPORATIONS GET AWAY WITH WHAT 906 00:29:01,473 --> 00:29:03,007 THEY'VE ALREADY GETTING AWAY 907 00:29:03,007 --> 00:29:05,577 WITH. MAYBE PASS AN ORDINANCE TO 908 00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:09,948 NOT HAVE DIGITAL APPS ANYWHERE. 909 00:29:09,948 --> 00:29:13,751 -- [APPLAUSE] 910 00:29:13,751 --> 00:29:14,185 -- THANK YOU KIAN. 911 00:29:14,185 --> 00:29:18,857 -- AND OUR LAST IN-PERSON 912 00:29:18,857 --> 00:29:21,426 SPEAKER IS ALTHEA. 913 00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:21,693 -- HELLO? 914 00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:22,227 -- CAN YOU. 915 00:29:22,227 --> 00:29:23,661 -- HEAR ME? OKAY. 916 00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:24,929 -- YOU GOT TO REALLY EAT THE 917 00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:25,130 MIC. 918 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:28,166 -- LIKE THAT. YES. PERFECT. HI. 919 00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:29,501 MY NAME IS ALTHEA LAZARO. I'M A 920 00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:32,170 PROUD MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN 921 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:32,770 FEDERATION OF TEACHERS LOCAL 922 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:35,073 1789. AND I'M HERE WITH SOUND 923 00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:35,607 ALLIANCE TO SPEAK AGAINST 924 00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:37,242 SURVEILLANCE PRICING. I'M A 925 00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:38,676 LIBRARIAN AT A LOCAL COMMUNITY 926 00:29:38,676 --> 00:29:40,044 COLLEGE HERE IN SEATTLE, AND I 927 00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:41,646 WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY 928 00:29:41,646 --> 00:29:44,949 IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY. 929 00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:46,317 LIBRARIANS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY 930 00:29:46,317 --> 00:29:46,951 HAVE FOUGHT AGAINST SURVEILLANCE 931 00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:48,153 AND THE COLLECTION OF CITIZEN 932 00:29:48,153 --> 00:29:49,587 DATA FOR DECADES, BECAUSE WE 933 00:29:49,587 --> 00:29:51,189 HAVE FOUND THAT SURVEILLANCE 934 00:29:51,189 --> 00:29:53,491 ALMOST ALWAYS EQUALS 935 00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:54,325 DISCRIMINATION. I SEE THIS EVERY 936 00:29:54,325 --> 00:29:56,127 DAY IN THE LIVES OF MY STUDENTS, 937 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:58,863 WHO TOO OFTEN HAVE TO GIVE UP 938 00:29:58,863 --> 00:29:59,464 THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO 939 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:02,634 ACCESS ESSENTIAL RESOURCES AND 940 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:03,935 SERVICES, AS MANY OF YOU ALREADY 941 00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:06,004 AGREE, SNEAKY SURVEILLANCE, 942 00:30:06,004 --> 00:30:07,672 ESPECIALLY ABOUT SOMETHING AS 943 00:30:07,672 --> 00:30:08,940 BASIC AND NECESSARY AS 944 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,109 GROCERIES, IS COMPLETELY 945 00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:12,210 UNACCEPTABLE. I WOULD LIKE YOU. 946 00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:13,378 I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU TO PASS 947 00:30:13,378 --> 00:30:14,546 THE STRONGEST VERSION OF THIS 948 00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:16,447 BILL WITH NO LOOPHOLES, AND I 949 00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:17,949 APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S WORK ON 950 00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:19,250 THIS ISSUE TO PROTECT OUR 951 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:21,386 COMMUNITY FROM THIS PREDATION. 952 00:30:21,386 --> 00:30:23,254 THANK YOU 953 00:30:23,254 --> 00:30:28,693 -- [APPLAUSE] 954 00:30:28,693 --> 00:30:29,727 -- THANK YOU. ALTHEA, THAT WAS 955 00:30:29,727 --> 00:30:31,229 OUR LAST IN-PERSON SPEAKER. SO 956 00:30:31,229 --> 00:30:35,500 NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR 957 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:35,900 REMOTE SPEAKERS. 958 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,136 -- THE FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS 959 00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:39,837 ROBIN TURNER. PLEASE PRESS STAR 960 00:30:39,837 --> 00:30:41,105 SIX. WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. 961 00:30:41,105 --> 00:30:51,516 YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED. 962 00:30:52,217 --> 00:30:53,852 -- HI, MY NAME IS ROBIN TURNER, 963 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,386 AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE 964 00:30:55,386 --> 00:30:56,254 WASHINGTON WORKING FAMILIES 965 00:30:56,254 --> 00:30:57,755 PARTY. AND I'M HERE TO TALK 966 00:30:57,755 --> 00:30:59,123 ABOUT SURVEILLANCE PRICING. WHEN 967 00:30:59,123 --> 00:31:01,159 I GO TO THE GROCERY STORE TO BUY 968 00:31:01,159 --> 00:31:02,560 EGGS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO 969 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,495 COMPARE PRICES. I WANT FAIR AND 970 00:31:04,495 --> 00:31:06,798 TRANSPARENT PRICING. I DO NOT 971 00:31:06,798 --> 00:31:09,234 WANT THE STORE TO ACCESS MY 972 00:31:09,234 --> 00:31:11,369 PRIVATE AND PERSONAL DATA FOR 973 00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:12,270 SETTING THE PRICE OF A CARTON OF 974 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:14,339 EGGS. I LIVE PAYCHECK TO 975 00:31:14,339 --> 00:31:18,076 PAYCHECK AND DO NOT HAVE THE 976 00:31:18,076 --> 00:31:18,543 FLEXIBILITY TO ABSORB 977 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:19,978 UNPREDICTABLE PRICES OR SHOP 978 00:31:19,978 --> 00:31:23,982 AROUND FOR A BETTER DEAL. I HAVE 979 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:24,582 LIMITED GROCERY OPTIONS IN MY 980 00:31:24,582 --> 00:31:25,750 NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I DON'T OWN 981 00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:27,852 A CAR, AND I WORK FULL TIME. 982 00:31:27,852 --> 00:31:29,821 SURVEILLANCE PRICING ALSO MAKES 983 00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:31,923 IT HARDER FOR FAMILIES, WORKING 984 00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:34,425 FAMILIES TO BUDGET WHAT ALONE 985 00:31:34,425 --> 00:31:36,594 COMPARISON SHOP. WE HAVE NO IDEA 986 00:31:36,594 --> 00:31:38,463 IF WE'RE BEING CHARGED A 987 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:40,031 DIFFERENT PRICE THAN OUR 988 00:31:40,031 --> 00:31:41,499 NEIGHBOR. PRICES SHOULD NOT BE 989 00:31:41,499 --> 00:31:43,301 DETERMINED BY INTERNET SEARCHES. 990 00:31:43,301 --> 00:31:48,239 OUR LOCATION, OUR INCOME, OR OUR 991 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:48,873 ONLINE BEHAVIOR. COUNCILMEMBERS 992 00:31:48,873 --> 00:31:50,441 YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 993 00:31:50,441 --> 00:31:52,477 PROTECT WORKING FAMILIES FROM 994 00:31:52,477 --> 00:31:55,179 THIS EMERGING FORM OF 995 00:31:55,179 --> 00:31:58,750 PERSONALIZED PRICE GOUGING AND 996 00:31:58,750 --> 00:31:59,350 PREVENTING CORPORATIONS FROM 997 00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:02,654 SQUEEZING WORKING FAMILIES TO 998 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:04,055 BOOST THEIR PROFITS. I WILL ALSO 999 00:32:04,055 --> 00:32:07,191 NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 1000 00:32:07,191 --> 00:32:09,627 PROTECTS LEGITIMATE SALES, 1001 00:32:09,627 --> 00:32:11,329 COUPONS, AND LOYALTY DISCOUNTS. 1002 00:32:11,329 --> 00:32:12,664 I SAY HANDS OFF MY PERSONAL 1003 00:32:12,664 --> 00:32:14,932 DATA. AND LET'S BE CLEAR 1004 00:32:14,932 --> 00:32:15,566 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING AND 1005 00:32:15,566 --> 00:32:17,568 DYNAMIC PRICING PRACTICES ARE 1006 00:32:17,568 --> 00:32:19,971 NOT JUST A THREAT TO 1007 00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:20,605 AFFORDABILITY, BUT ALSO A THREAT 1008 00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:24,642 TO OUR PRIVACY. WITH THAT, DATA 1009 00:32:24,642 --> 00:32:26,511 COMPANIES NOW IDENTIFY THE 1010 00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:28,246 HIGHEST PRICE EACH CUSTOMER IS 1011 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:29,847 WILLING TO PAY AND NOT CHARGE A 1012 00:32:29,847 --> 00:32:32,684 PENNY LESS. AND IN MANY CASES, 1013 00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:34,085 THE CORPORATIONS, INCLUDING 1014 00:32:34,085 --> 00:32:35,987 GROCERY CHAINS, ARE SELLING OUR 1015 00:32:35,987 --> 00:32:38,456 PERSONAL DATA TO DATA BROKERS. 1016 00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,192 OTHERS RESULTING IN LARGE 1017 00:32:41,192 --> 00:32:43,361 PROFITS. VOTE YES ON THIS 1018 00:32:43,361 --> 00:32:46,164 ORDINANCE ON FAIR AND 1019 00:32:46,164 --> 00:32:46,731 TRANSPARENT PRICING WITHOUT 1020 00:32:46,731 --> 00:32:47,398 CORPORATE LOOPHOLES. THANK YOU 1021 00:32:47,398 --> 00:32:51,202 FOR YOUR TIME 1022 00:32:51,202 --> 00:32:59,077 -- [APPLAUSE] 1023 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,779 -- OUR NEXT ONLINE SPEAKER. OUR 1024 00:33:01,779 --> 00:33:02,880 NEXT SPEAKER IS MARCOS WALLACE. 1025 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,581 PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX WHEN YOU 1026 00:33:03,581 --> 00:33:06,684 HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE BEEN 1027 00:33:06,684 --> 00:33:12,890 UNMUTED. 1028 00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:14,559 -- FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS 1029 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:15,660 MARCOS WALLACE, FOUNDER AND 1030 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:16,761 PRESIDENT OF THE SEATTLE LATINO 1031 00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:18,162 METROPOLITAN CHAMBER OF 1032 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,465 COMMERCE. I COME BEFORE YOU IN 1033 00:33:20,465 --> 00:33:22,200 OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED 1034 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,834 PRICING ORDINANCE, CHAIR RINCK 1035 00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:25,570 AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. ON 1036 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:26,104 BEHALF OF OUR BUSINESSES 1037 00:33:26,104 --> 00:33:27,638 COLLECTIVE COMPOSED OF MORE THAN 1038 00:33:27,638 --> 00:33:30,108 2000 MEMBERS, PROFESSIONALS AND 1039 00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:32,710 BUSINESSES WHICH INCLUDE SMALL 1040 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:35,146 FAMILY OWNED RESTAURANTS AND 1041 00:33:35,146 --> 00:33:36,381 GROCERY STORES. I HAVE TO TALK 1042 00:33:36,381 --> 00:33:39,117 ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. 1043 00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:40,184 AFFORDABILITY IS A PERSISTENT 1044 00:33:40,184 --> 00:33:41,386 CONCERN FOR BUSINESSES AND THEIR 1045 00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:46,023 CUSTOMERS. FOR EXAMPLE, REAL 1046 00:33:46,023 --> 00:33:47,425 ESTATE IS ROUGHLY 106 TO 112% 1047 00:33:47,425 --> 00:33:48,059 MORE EXPENSIVE IN SEATTLE THAN 1048 00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:52,163 THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. COUPONS, 1049 00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:52,697 REWARDS PROGRAMS AND FUEL 1050 00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:54,399 DISCOUNTS AID AGAINST OUR 1051 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:56,134 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. NO MATTER 1052 00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:59,203 WHAT. ALL PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE 1053 00:33:59,203 --> 00:34:01,038 SAID THESE BENEFITS WILL GO AWAY 1054 00:34:01,038 --> 00:34:02,540 UNDER THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU. 1055 00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:04,742 THE ORDINANCE WILL DRIVE FOOD 1056 00:34:04,742 --> 00:34:07,678 AND GOODS PRICES UP INSTEAD OF 1057 00:34:07,678 --> 00:34:10,481 BRINGING THEM DOWN. THIS HAS 1058 00:34:10,481 --> 00:34:13,284 BEEN HISTORICALLY PROVEN EVERY 1059 00:34:13,284 --> 00:34:13,818 TIME GOVERNMENT TRIES TO 1060 00:34:13,818 --> 00:34:16,020 REGULATE PRICES OR MARKET 1061 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:18,022 PROCEDURES THROUGH REGULATION, 1062 00:34:18,022 --> 00:34:20,491 IT DOESN'T WORK. BUSINESSES 1063 00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:22,360 NEED CERTAINTY. THE LANGUAGE OF 1064 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,028 THIS ORDINANCE PUTS BUSINESSES 1065 00:34:24,028 --> 00:34:26,164 IN GREAT RISK FOR CIVIL 1066 00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:27,131 LITIGATION, WHICH DIRECTLY ADDS 1067 00:34:27,131 --> 00:34:29,200 TO THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. 1068 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,536 HERE. I JUST FINISHED A FORUM 1069 00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:32,904 WITH A MAJOR AND THE CITY 1070 00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:35,039 OFFICIALS, WHICH EXPRESSED ITS 1071 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:36,841 GRAVE CONCERN OVER BUSINESSES 1072 00:34:36,841 --> 00:34:38,342 LEAVING SEATTLE FOR OTHER CITIES 1073 00:34:38,342 --> 00:34:40,144 BECAUSE OF HIGH COST OF DOING 1074 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:42,680 BUSINESS HERE. THIS ORDINANCE 1075 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,183 WILL CONTRIBUTE TO PROMOTE 1076 00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:47,585 BUSINESSES AND THEIR JOBS, TO 1077 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:48,219 ABANDON SEATTLE ON BEHALF OF OUR 1078 00:34:48,219 --> 00:34:50,455 MEMBERS UNDER SEATTLE CUSTOMERS, 1079 00:34:50,455 --> 00:34:52,323 WE FIRMLY ASK YOU TO. DON'T 1080 00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:53,758 APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH 1081 00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,526 WILL INCREASE COSTS. WE NEED TO 1082 00:34:55,526 --> 00:34:56,661 MAKE SEATTLE MORE AFFORDABLE, 1083 00:34:56,661 --> 00:34:58,529 NOT LESS. THE CITY HAS BEEN 1084 00:34:58,529 --> 00:35:00,698 TAKING EVERY STEP TO DRIVE 1085 00:35:00,698 --> 00:35:02,467 BUSINESS AND PROSPERITY AWAY. WE 1086 00:35:02,467 --> 00:35:04,168 UNDERSTAND THE RHETORIC OF 1087 00:35:04,168 --> 00:35:05,636 INVASION OF PRIVACY, BUT THIS IS 1088 00:35:05,636 --> 00:35:07,271 THE WRONG WAY OF TRYING TO DO A 1089 00:35:07,271 --> 00:35:15,346 GOOD THING. THANK YOU. 1090 00:35:15,346 --> 00:35:17,148 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMANDA 1091 00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:17,748 DALTON. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1092 00:35:17,748 --> 00:35:21,552 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1093 00:35:21,552 --> 00:35:28,426 BEEN UNMUTED. 1094 00:35:28,426 --> 00:35:28,993 -- RINCK AND MEMBERS OF THE 1095 00:35:28,993 --> 00:35:29,861 COMMITTEE, AMANDA DALTON, ON 1096 00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:31,762 BEHALF OF THE NORTHWEST CROCHET 1097 00:35:31,762 --> 00:35:33,197 RETAIL ASSOCIATION, WE SUPPORT 1098 00:35:33,197 --> 00:35:34,932 PROHIBITING THE USE OF PERSONAL 1099 00:35:34,932 --> 00:35:37,235 INFORMATION TO INCREASE PRICES. 1100 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:38,703 I WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE 1101 00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:39,337 AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU. YOU HAVE 1102 00:35:39,337 --> 00:35:41,339 MY MORE DETAILED COMMENTS VIA AN 1103 00:35:41,339 --> 00:35:42,206 EMAIL SENT YESTERDAY. DUE TO 1104 00:35:42,206 --> 00:35:45,610 LIMITED TIME TODAY. FIRST, WE 1105 00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:46,143 APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER 1106 00:35:46,143 --> 00:35:46,978 FOSTER'S AMENDMENT ONE AND URGE 1107 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,446 YOUR SUPPORT. REMOVING 1108 00:35:48,446 --> 00:35:48,980 INTANGIBLE HARM CREATES A 1109 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:50,214 CLEARER AND MORE MEANINGFUL 1110 00:35:50,214 --> 00:35:52,116 THRESHOLD FOR ESTABLISHING HARM. 1111 00:35:52,116 --> 00:35:53,451 WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ONE 1112 00:35:53,451 --> 00:35:54,118 ADDITIONAL CHANGE TO ENSURE THE 1113 00:35:54,118 --> 00:35:55,586 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IS ALSO 1114 00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:56,921 TIED DIRECTLY TO THAT TANGIBLE 1115 00:35:56,921 --> 00:35:58,456 HARM STANDARD. I WANT TO BE 1116 00:35:58,456 --> 00:35:59,924 CLEAR THAT THIS AMENDMENT ALONE 1117 00:35:59,924 --> 00:36:03,194 DOES NOT RESOLVE THE BROADER 1118 00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:03,794 LITIGATION EXPOSURE CONCERNS 1119 00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:04,695 CREATED BY THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF 1120 00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:06,097 ACTION. WE HAVE GREATER CONCERNS 1121 00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,232 WITH AMENDMENT TWO, AND THIS MAY 1122 00:36:08,232 --> 00:36:09,300 BE BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING IT FOR 1123 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,701 THE FIRST TIME AND HAVEN'T HAD 1124 00:36:10,701 --> 00:36:12,103 THE BENEFIT OF DISCUSSION, BUT 1125 00:36:12,103 --> 00:36:13,304 WE DO BELIEVE, AT A MINIMUM, THE 1126 00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:15,006 WAY IT IS DRAFTED CREATES 1127 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,175 SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY AROUND 1128 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:18,409 WHETHER ELECTRONIC SHELF LABELS 1129 00:36:18,409 --> 00:36:19,944 CAN LEGALLY BE USED AS DRAFTED. 1130 00:36:19,944 --> 00:36:21,345 THE AMENDMENT TIES WHETHER AN 1131 00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:22,713 ELECTRONIC SHELF LABEL CAN BE 1132 00:36:22,713 --> 00:36:24,782 USED TO WHETHER A RETAILER IS 1133 00:36:24,782 --> 00:36:26,551 PROHIBITED FROM MODIFYING A 1134 00:36:26,551 --> 00:36:27,385 PARTICULAR PRICE UNDER THE 1135 00:36:27,385 --> 00:36:28,586 ORDINANCE. BUT THERE ARE STILL 1136 00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:30,087 UNRESOLVED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH 1137 00:36:30,087 --> 00:36:31,923 DISCOUNTS, PROMOTIONS AND 1138 00:36:31,923 --> 00:36:33,858 SAVINGS ARE PERMITTED. THIS 1139 00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:36,427 CREATES A VERY PRACTICAL PROBLEM 1140 00:36:36,427 --> 00:36:38,129 RETAILERS CANNOT REALISTICALLY 1141 00:36:38,129 --> 00:36:38,763 USE ELECTRONIC SHELF LABELS ON 1142 00:36:38,763 --> 00:36:40,364 SOME PRODUCTS, BUT NOT ON 1143 00:36:40,364 --> 00:36:42,199 OTHERS, BASED ON WHETHER A 1144 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:43,668 PARTICULAR PRICE OR PROMOTION 1145 00:36:43,668 --> 00:36:45,102 MIGHT FALL WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. 1146 00:36:45,102 --> 00:36:46,437 PROHIBITIONS. THAT MAY NOT BE 1147 00:36:46,437 --> 00:36:47,371 THE INTENT, BUT WE BELIEVE IT IS 1148 00:36:47,371 --> 00:36:48,673 A REAL RISK UNDER THE LANGUAGE 1149 00:36:48,673 --> 00:36:50,841 AS WRITTEN. FINALLY, I WANT TO 1150 00:36:50,841 --> 00:36:51,842 EMPHASIZE WHY WE CONTINUE TO ASK 1151 00:36:51,842 --> 00:36:53,444 COUNCIL TO GET THIS RIGHT BEFORE 1152 00:36:53,444 --> 00:36:54,879 IT TAKES EFFECT. NO STATE LAW 1153 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:56,314 LIKE THIS HAS TAKEN EFFECT YET. 1154 00:36:56,314 --> 00:36:57,481 MARYLAND WILL BE THE FIRST NEXT 1155 00:36:57,481 --> 00:36:58,683 MONTH, FOLLOWED BY NEW JERSEY 1156 00:36:58,683 --> 00:37:00,885 NEXT YEAR. SO THERE IS NO REAL 1157 00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:02,086 WORLD EXPERIENCE YET SHOWING HOW 1158 00:37:02,086 --> 00:37:03,354 THESE LAWS WILL AFFECT 1159 00:37:03,354 --> 00:37:05,089 DISCOUNTS, PROMOTIONS OR OTHER 1160 00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:07,024 RETAILER OPERATIONS. AND JUST 1161 00:37:07,024 --> 00:37:07,658 WEEKS AGO, CALIFORNIA DECLINED 1162 00:37:07,658 --> 00:37:09,660 TO ADVANCE A SIMILAR PROPOSAL 1163 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,495 AFTER LAWMAKERS RAISED CONCERNS 1164 00:37:11,495 --> 00:37:13,397 ABOUT POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON 1165 00:37:13,397 --> 00:37:13,965 CONSUMER DISCOUNTS. SEATTLE 1166 00:37:13,965 --> 00:37:15,099 DOESN'T NEED TO FOLLOW 1167 00:37:15,099 --> 00:37:16,934 CALIFORNIA, BUT IT SHOULD TAKE 1168 00:37:16,934 --> 00:37:18,135 SERIOUSLY THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE 1169 00:37:18,135 --> 00:37:19,537 CAUSED OTHER POLICY MAKERS TO 1170 00:37:19,537 --> 00:37:21,806 PROCEED CAREFULLY. WE SUPPORT 1171 00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:22,840 PROTECTING CONSUMERS FROM HAVING 1172 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,208 THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION USED 1173 00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:26,611 TO CHARGE THEM MORE. BUT WHEN 1174 00:37:26,611 --> 00:37:27,878 THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE COULD 1175 00:37:27,878 --> 00:37:28,512 BE TAKING DISCOUNTS AND SAVINGS 1176 00:37:28,512 --> 00:37:31,515 AWAY FROM THOSE SAME CONSUMERS, 1177 00:37:31,515 --> 00:37:32,083 GETTING THE LANGUAGE RIGHT 1178 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:33,618 BEFORE THE MEASURE TAKES EFFECT 1179 00:37:33,618 --> 00:37:43,094 MATTERS. THANK YOU. 1180 00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:43,961 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMY 1181 00:37:43,961 --> 00:37:45,029 HARRIS. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1182 00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:48,899 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1183 00:37:48,899 --> 00:37:56,741 BEEN UNMUTED. 1184 00:37:56,974 --> 00:38:03,080 -- MERCEDES RINCK AND MEMBERS OF 1185 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,148 THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS AMY 1186 00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:05,983 HARRIS, TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF 1187 00:38:05,983 --> 00:38:08,085 THE WASHINGTON TECHNOLOGY 1188 00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:08,552 INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, 1189 00:38:08,552 --> 00:38:10,021 REPRESENTING NEARLY 800 TECH 1190 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,689 COMPANIES IN SEATTLE AND ACROSS 1191 00:38:11,689 --> 00:38:13,424 WASHINGTON STATE. I'M HERE TO 1192 00:38:13,424 --> 00:38:13,991 REITERATE AGAIN OUR ONGOING 1193 00:38:13,991 --> 00:38:15,626 CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED 1194 00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:16,961 PRICING ORDINANCE AND ITS IMPACT 1195 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,729 ON CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES IN 1196 00:38:18,729 --> 00:38:19,997 SEATTLE. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD 1197 00:38:19,997 --> 00:38:21,332 HARM THE VERY PROGRAMS CONSUMERS 1198 00:38:21,332 --> 00:38:23,234 RELY ON TO MAXIMIZE THEIR 1199 00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:24,735 SHOPPING POWER WITH LOCAL 1200 00:38:24,735 --> 00:38:25,369 RETAILERS AND GROCERS. AS YOU 1201 00:38:25,369 --> 00:38:27,238 ARE ALL WELL AWARE, THE 1202 00:38:27,238 --> 00:38:28,572 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN SEATTLE 1203 00:38:28,572 --> 00:38:30,641 CONTINUES TO PUT PRESSURE ON 1204 00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:32,143 FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS, 1205 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:32,743 PARTICULARLY THOSE LIVING ON 1206 00:38:32,743 --> 00:38:34,445 FIXED INCOMES. THIS ORDINANCE 1207 00:38:34,445 --> 00:38:36,213 WOULD ADD TO THOSE FINANCIAL 1208 00:38:36,213 --> 00:38:37,982 BURDENS BY REMOVING SUCH THINGS 1209 00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:39,417 AS FUEL DISCOUNTS, DIGITAL 1210 00:38:39,417 --> 00:38:40,785 COUPONS, PERSONALIZED PROMOTIONS 1211 00:38:40,785 --> 00:38:43,454 AND REWARDS. TO SAVE MONEY. THE 1212 00:38:43,454 --> 00:38:45,289 CARVE OUTS IN THE ORDINANCE ARE 1213 00:38:45,289 --> 00:38:45,856 SO NARROW THEY EFFECTIVELY 1214 00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:46,857 PROHIBIT OR DISCOURAGE THESE 1215 00:38:46,857 --> 00:38:49,226 MUCH LOVED CONSUMER PROGRAMS. AS 1216 00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:50,728 A RESULT, SHOPPERS WOULD FACE A 1217 00:38:50,728 --> 00:38:52,296 SHORTAGE OF CRITICAL MONEY 1218 00:38:52,296 --> 00:38:54,298 SAVING OPTIONS. SEATTLE 1219 00:38:54,298 --> 00:38:54,899 CONSUMERS ARE ALREADY LOOKING 1220 00:38:54,899 --> 00:38:56,067 FOR ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO SAVE 1221 00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:58,602 MONEY. IT IS ALREADY THE MOST 1222 00:38:58,602 --> 00:39:00,004 EXPENSIVE CITY IN THE COUNTRY 1223 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,139 FOR DELIVERY. CONSUMERS NEED 1224 00:39:02,139 --> 00:39:04,875 MORE TOOLS TO MAKE ENDS MEET. 1225 00:39:04,875 --> 00:39:05,476 BUSINESSES NEED PROGRAMS THAT 1226 00:39:05,476 --> 00:39:07,545 ENGAGE CUSTOMERS AND ENCOURAGE 1227 00:39:07,545 --> 00:39:08,779 THEM TO SHOP IN THEIR STORES. 1228 00:39:08,779 --> 00:39:10,381 THIS ORDINANCE IS BAD FOR BOTH. 1229 00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:17,555 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY 1230 00:39:17,555 --> 00:39:19,056 -- BEFORE GOING TO OUR NEXT 1231 00:39:19,056 --> 00:39:20,424 ONLINE SPEAKER, I WANT TO TAKE A 1232 00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:22,960 MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT 1233 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,561 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HAS JOINED 1234 00:39:23,561 --> 00:39:24,328 THE MEETING VIRTUALLY. THANK 1235 00:39:24,328 --> 00:39:27,398 YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 1236 00:39:27,398 --> 00:39:29,367 -- OUR NEXT ONLINE PERSON IS 1237 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,702 LARS ERICKSON. PLEASE PRESS STAR 1238 00:39:31,702 --> 00:39:34,905 SIX WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. 1239 00:39:34,905 --> 00:39:42,113 YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED. 1240 00:39:42,113 --> 00:39:43,914 -- GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND 1241 00:39:43,914 --> 00:39:46,016 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY 1242 00:39:46,016 --> 00:39:47,885 NAME IS LAURA ERICKSON, AND I'M 1243 00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:49,353 REPRESENTING THE 2600 MEMBERS OF 1244 00:39:49,353 --> 00:39:50,721 THE SEATTLE METRO CHAMBER. WE 1245 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,524 SUPPORT THE GOAL OF PREVENTING 1246 00:39:53,524 --> 00:39:55,459 UNFAIR PRICING PRACTICES AND 1247 00:39:55,459 --> 00:39:56,093 ENSURING CONSUMERS ARE PROTECTED 1248 00:39:56,093 --> 00:39:57,528 FROM DISCRIMINATORY USES OF 1249 00:39:57,528 --> 00:40:00,631 PERSONAL DATA. AT THE SAME TIME, 1250 00:40:00,631 --> 00:40:02,400 WE REMAIN CONCERNED THAT THE 1251 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,835 PROPOSAL COULD HAVE UNINTENDED 1252 00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:05,436 CONSEQUENCES FOR THE COUPONS 1253 00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:07,538 REWARD PROGRAMS, LOYALTY 1254 00:40:07,538 --> 00:40:09,774 BENEFITS AND OTHER DISCOUNTS 1255 00:40:09,774 --> 00:40:11,776 THAT MANY SEATTLE FAMILIES RELY 1256 00:40:11,776 --> 00:40:12,576 ON. WE APPRECIATE AMENDMENT ONE 1257 00:40:12,576 --> 00:40:16,947 AS A POSITIVE STEP TOWARD A MORE 1258 00:40:16,947 --> 00:40:17,581 BALANCED ENFORCEMENT FRAMEWORK, 1259 00:40:17,581 --> 00:40:18,916 REQUIRING A SHOWING OF TANGIBLE 1260 00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:21,452 HARM HELPS FOCUS ENFORCEMENT ON 1261 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:25,322 REAL CONSUMER INJURY. HOWEVER, 1262 00:40:25,322 --> 00:40:26,657 WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS 1263 00:40:26,657 --> 00:40:27,291 ABOUT THE BROADER PRIVATE RIGHT 1264 00:40:27,291 --> 00:40:30,227 OF ACTION AND THE POTENTIAL FOR 1265 00:40:30,227 --> 00:40:31,796 LITIGATION OVER TECHNICAL 1266 00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:34,265 COMPLIANCE ISSUES, RATHER THAN 1267 00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,200 ACTUAL CONSUMER HARM. WHILE WE 1268 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,168 APPRECIATE EFFORTS TO IMPROVE 1269 00:40:37,168 --> 00:40:39,503 THE BILL, WE BELIEVE ADDITIONAL 1270 00:40:39,503 --> 00:40:41,238 WORK REMAINS. THERE ARE STILL 1271 00:40:41,238 --> 00:40:43,040 IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW 1272 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,609 THE EXEMPTIONS WILL FUNCTION IN 1273 00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:46,243 PRACTICE AND WHETHER CONSUMERS 1274 00:40:46,243 --> 00:40:48,145 COULD ULTIMATELY LOSE ACCESS TO 1275 00:40:48,145 --> 00:40:50,047 SAVING OPPORTUNITIES. WE 1276 00:40:50,047 --> 00:40:51,482 RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COMMITTEE 1277 00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:53,017 TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME FOR 1278 00:40:53,017 --> 00:40:54,151 STAKEHOLDERS, RETAILERS, 1279 00:40:54,151 --> 00:40:56,153 CONSUMER ADVOCATES AND THE CITY 1280 00:40:56,153 --> 00:40:56,754 TO CONTINUE THESE DISCUSSIONS 1281 00:40:56,754 --> 00:40:59,223 AND REFINE THE POLICY. WE SHARE 1282 00:40:59,223 --> 00:41:00,658 THE GOAL OF PROTECTING 1283 00:41:00,658 --> 00:41:02,193 CONSUMERS, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT 1284 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:04,395 THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT AND AVOID 1285 00:41:04,395 --> 00:41:06,096 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR 1286 00:41:06,096 --> 00:41:13,270 SEATTLE FAMILIES. THANK YOU FOR 1287 00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:13,704 YOUR CONSIDERATION. 1288 00:41:13,704 --> 00:41:15,072 -- THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE 1289 00:41:15,072 --> 00:41:15,739 SOTELO. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1290 00:41:15,739 --> 00:41:19,410 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1291 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:27,451 BEEN UNMUTED. ACTUALLY, IT LOOKS 1292 00:41:27,451 --> 00:41:29,653 LIKE MIKE SOTELO HAS LOGGED OUT. 1293 00:41:29,653 --> 00:41:31,422 SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GABRIEL 1294 00:41:31,422 --> 00:41:32,756 NEWMAN. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1295 00:41:32,756 --> 00:41:36,560 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1296 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:44,435 BEEN UNMUTED. 1297 00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:49,573 -- GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND 1298 00:41:49,573 --> 00:41:50,174 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY 1299 00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:52,810 NAME IS GABRIEL NEWMAN. I'M 1300 00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:54,879 TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF GSBA, 1301 00:41:54,879 --> 00:41:56,714 WHERE STATEWIDE LGBTQ AND ALLIED 1302 00:41:56,714 --> 00:41:57,381 BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE 1303 00:41:57,381 --> 00:41:59,316 TO SPEAK ON THE FAIR PRICING 1304 00:41:59,316 --> 00:42:00,351 ORDINANCE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 1305 00:42:00,351 --> 00:42:01,986 COMMITMENT TO FINDING INNOVATIVE 1306 00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:03,954 WAYS TO MEET THE MOMENT AND 1307 00:42:03,954 --> 00:42:04,622 ADDRESS SEATTLE'S AFFORDABILITY 1308 00:42:04,622 --> 00:42:06,590 CRISIS. WE SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO 1309 00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:08,592 LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR GROCERS TO 1310 00:42:08,592 --> 00:42:09,193 ALGORITHMICALLY RAISE PRICES 1311 00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:11,629 AGAINST CONSUMERS. WE ALSO WANT 1312 00:42:11,629 --> 00:42:13,030 TO URGE YOU TO PRESERVE THE 1313 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:14,832 ABILITY FOR COMPANIES AND 1314 00:42:14,832 --> 00:42:15,466 GROCERS TO BRING PROMOTIONS TO 1315 00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:17,868 THEIR USERS, RAISING PRICES ON 1316 00:42:17,868 --> 00:42:19,970 ORDINARY ITEMS IN ORDER TO 1317 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:21,038 ADVERTISE DISCOUNTS ON THEM IS 1318 00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:23,607 NOT OKAY, HOWEVER, GIVING 1319 00:42:23,607 --> 00:42:24,508 PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS IS A 1320 00:42:24,508 --> 00:42:26,343 BENEFIT THAT CAN PROVIDE COST 1321 00:42:26,343 --> 00:42:27,344 SAVING MEASURES THAT CONSUMERS 1322 00:42:27,344 --> 00:42:29,113 RELY ON TO STRETCH THEIR 1323 00:42:29,113 --> 00:42:30,648 BUDGETS. MOREOVER, RESTRICTING 1324 00:42:30,648 --> 00:42:32,449 PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS CAN 1325 00:42:32,449 --> 00:42:32,917 UNIQUELY IMPACT SMALL 1326 00:42:32,917 --> 00:42:34,451 BUSINESSES, SMALL AND LOCAL 1327 00:42:34,451 --> 00:42:35,819 BUSINESSES WORK WITH DELIVERY 1328 00:42:35,819 --> 00:42:37,988 PLATFORMS AND LARGE RETAILERS TO 1329 00:42:37,988 --> 00:42:40,457 OFFER TARGETED PROMOTIONS TO 1330 00:42:40,457 --> 00:42:40,991 ATTRACT NEW CUSTOMERS AND 1331 00:42:40,991 --> 00:42:43,093 COMPETE WITH LARGER BRANDS. 1332 00:42:43,093 --> 00:42:44,528 INDEPENDENT RESTAURANTS CAN ALSO 1333 00:42:44,528 --> 00:42:45,963 USE PLATFORM FUNDED, 1334 00:42:45,963 --> 00:42:47,865 PERSONALIZED PROMOTIONS TO REACH 1335 00:42:47,865 --> 00:42:49,133 NEW REGULARS. THIS CAN BE AN 1336 00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:51,435 ESSENTIAL WAY FOR SMALL BUSINESS 1337 00:42:51,435 --> 00:42:54,305 IN WASHINGTON OR SEATTLE TO 1338 00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:57,308 COMPETE AGAINST LARGER, MORE 1339 00:42:57,308 --> 00:42:59,109 INGRAINED PRODUCTS. THESE ARE 1340 00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:59,710 ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT SMALL 1341 00:42:59,710 --> 00:43:00,878 BUSINESSES RELY ON IN ORDER TO 1342 00:43:00,878 --> 00:43:02,079 REACH CONSUMERS AND COMPETE WITH 1343 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:03,480 OTHER ESTABLISHED BRANDS. AS A 1344 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,549 SMALL START UP, A BUSINESS MAY 1345 00:43:05,549 --> 00:43:07,217 NOT HAVE ENOUGH INVENTORY OR 1346 00:43:07,217 --> 00:43:08,485 CAPITAL TO OFFER DISCOUNTS TO 1347 00:43:08,485 --> 00:43:09,853 EVERYONE ON AN APP, BUT THEY CAN 1348 00:43:09,853 --> 00:43:11,155 SUSTAIN AN OFFER AIMED AT A 1349 00:43:11,155 --> 00:43:11,889 SMALLER GROUP OF FOLKS WHO WOULD 1350 00:43:11,889 --> 00:43:13,590 BE MORE LIKELY TO USE IT. WE 1351 00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:15,292 WANT TO ENSURE STRUCTURES LIKE 1352 00:43:15,292 --> 00:43:17,127 THIS REMAIN IN PLACE, IN WHICH 1353 00:43:17,127 --> 00:43:18,596 SMALL BUSINESSES CAN USE TO 1354 00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:20,264 EXPAND THEIR CONSUMER BASE. I'M 1355 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:22,299 CONFIDENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL 1356 00:43:22,299 --> 00:43:23,300 CAN WORK THIS LEGISLATION, ALONG 1357 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,070 WITH STAKEHOLDERS, TO PROVIDE 1358 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:26,704 ESSENTIAL CONSUMER PROTECTIONS, 1359 00:43:26,704 --> 00:43:28,005 WHILE ALSO ENSURING FOLKS 1360 00:43:28,005 --> 00:43:29,473 CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE 1361 00:43:29,473 --> 00:43:30,975 DISCOUNTS THEY RELY ON AS THEY 1362 00:43:30,975 --> 00:43:32,610 CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE THE 1363 00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:34,678 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. THANK YOU 1364 00:43:34,678 --> 00:43:35,212 FOR THINKING CREATIVELY, 1365 00:43:35,212 --> 00:43:36,413 CREATIVELY TO TACKLE THESE 1366 00:43:36,413 --> 00:43:41,919 FUTURE FORWARD ISSUES. 1367 00:43:41,919 --> 00:43:44,621 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DR. 1368 00:43:44,621 --> 00:43:45,990 MCKENNA. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1369 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:49,626 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1370 00:43:49,626 --> 00:43:55,499 BEEN UNMUTED. 1371 00:43:55,499 --> 00:43:58,168 -- GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU 1372 00:43:58,168 --> 00:43:58,936 FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY 1373 00:43:58,936 --> 00:44:00,537 TODAY. MY NAME IS MCKENNA AND I 1374 00:44:00,537 --> 00:44:02,339 AM HERE ON BEHALF OF IBOTTA. 1375 00:44:02,339 --> 00:44:05,009 FIRST, I WANT TO SHARE THAT WE 1376 00:44:05,009 --> 00:44:07,177 SUPPORT THE ORDINANCES INTENT TO 1377 00:44:07,177 --> 00:44:09,380 PROTECT CONSUMERS FROM PREDATORY 1378 00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:11,782 PRICING. HOWEVER, THE CURRENT 1379 00:44:11,782 --> 00:44:12,316 LANGUAGE UNINTENTIONALLY 1380 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:13,450 JEOPARDIZES POPULAR SAVINGS 1381 00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:15,285 PROGRAMS, AND WE RESPECTFULLY 1382 00:44:15,285 --> 00:44:17,287 REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER 1383 00:44:17,287 --> 00:44:19,390 AMENDMENTS TO PROTECT THOSE 1384 00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:20,791 PROGRAMS I BOUGHT. IT IS A 1385 00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:21,258 DIGITAL DISCOUNTS AND 1386 00:44:21,258 --> 00:44:22,059 PROMOTIONAL MARKETING COMPANY. 1387 00:44:22,059 --> 00:44:24,028 WE OFFER DISCOUNTS AND CASH BACK 1388 00:44:24,028 --> 00:44:25,429 ON EVERYDAY ITEMS BY WORKING 1389 00:44:25,429 --> 00:44:27,564 WITH BRANDS AND MANUFACTURERS TO 1390 00:44:27,564 --> 00:44:28,966 DEVELOP DISCOUNTS THAT ARE 1391 00:44:28,966 --> 00:44:30,801 AVAILABLE THROUGH IBOTTA FREE 1392 00:44:30,801 --> 00:44:33,003 APP AND PARTICIPATING RETAILERS. 1393 00:44:33,003 --> 00:44:35,305 LOYALTY AND SHOPPING PROGRAMS. 1394 00:44:35,305 --> 00:44:37,074 THIS IS A VOLUNTARY OPT IN 1395 00:44:37,074 --> 00:44:38,809 PROGRAM. FOR EXAMPLE, IMAGINE A 1396 00:44:38,809 --> 00:44:40,544 STARTUP BEVERAGE BRAND IS 1397 00:44:40,544 --> 00:44:41,578 INTRODUCING A NEW FLAVOR AND 1398 00:44:41,578 --> 00:44:43,180 WANTS TO INCENTIVIZE CONSUMERS 1399 00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:44,948 TO. TRY IT. IBOTTA WOULD WORK 1400 00:44:44,948 --> 00:44:46,417 WITH THAT BRAND TO PROVIDE A 1401 00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:47,651 CASH BACK OFFER THROUGH OUR APP, 1402 00:44:47,651 --> 00:44:49,953 AND OUR PARTNER RETAILERS 1403 00:44:49,953 --> 00:44:52,589 PLATFORMS. THE BRAND FUNDS, THE 1404 00:44:52,589 --> 00:44:54,625 DISCOUNT, THE RETAILER PUBLISHES 1405 00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:56,160 THE OFFER, AND THE CONSUMER 1406 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,394 EARNS CASH BACK AS A RESULT OF 1407 00:44:57,394 --> 00:44:59,496 TRYING THAT NEW BEVERAGE. 1408 00:44:59,496 --> 00:45:00,597 IMPORTANTLY, I BOUGHT A CANNOT 1409 00:45:00,597 --> 00:45:03,634 AND DOES NOT SET OR INFLUENCE 1410 00:45:03,634 --> 00:45:05,035 THE UNDERLYING RETAIL PRICE OF 1411 00:45:05,035 --> 00:45:06,837 THAT GOOD. OUR ROLE IS TO 1412 00:45:06,837 --> 00:45:08,639 PROVIDE A MANUFACTURER FUNDED 1413 00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,507 DISCOUNT THAT ONLY LOWERS WHAT A 1414 00:45:10,507 --> 00:45:12,342 CONSUMER ULTIMATELY PAYS. THIS 1415 00:45:12,342 --> 00:45:13,777 PROGRAM IS PRETTY POPULAR IN THE 1416 00:45:13,777 --> 00:45:17,381 LAST TEN YEARS, OVER 170,000 1417 00:45:17,381 --> 00:45:17,948 SEATTLE RESIDENTS HAVE USED 1418 00:45:17,948 --> 00:45:20,150 IBOTTA TO EARN OVER $3.3 MILLION 1419 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:23,554 IN SAVINGS. FOR SEATTLE FAMILIES 1420 00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:24,088 FACING HIGHER GROCERY AND 1421 00:45:24,088 --> 00:45:25,856 HOUSEHOLD COSTS. THESE SAVINGS 1422 00:45:25,856 --> 00:45:28,559 ARE SIGNIFICANT. AS DRAFTED, THE 1423 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:29,159 ORDINANCE WOULD RESTRICT THE 1424 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:30,394 ABILITY FOR THIRD PARTY 1425 00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:32,730 COMPANIES LIKE IBOTTA TO OFFER 1426 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,932 DISCOUNTS TO CONSUMERS, AND WE 1427 00:45:34,932 --> 00:45:36,700 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST COUNCIL TO 1428 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:37,234 PRESERVE ACCESS TO THESE 1429 00:45:37,234 --> 00:45:38,836 IMPORTANT SAVINGS TOOLS. THANK 1430 00:45:38,836 --> 00:45:43,974 YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND 1431 00:45:43,974 --> 00:45:44,341 CONSIDERATION. 1432 00:45:44,341 --> 00:45:47,544 -- THE NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPH 1433 00:45:47,544 --> 00:45:48,645 HAGGERTY. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1434 00:45:48,645 --> 00:45:56,553 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1435 00:45:56,687 --> 00:45:59,656 BEEN UNMUTED. 1436 00:45:59,656 --> 00:46:01,425 -- HI THERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? 1437 00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:04,394 -- YEAH, WE GOT YOU. 1438 00:46:04,394 --> 00:46:05,829 -- THANK YOU. HI THERE. MY NAME 1439 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:07,731 IS STEPH HAGGERTY. I'M A WORKER 1440 00:46:07,731 --> 00:46:09,633 IN DISTRICT FOUR AND A FREQUENT 1441 00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:10,734 GROCERY SHOPPER. I JUST WANT TO 1442 00:46:10,734 --> 00:46:13,437 ECHO MANY HERE TODAY THAT I'M 1443 00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:15,706 SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE FAIR 1444 00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:16,206 AND TRANSPARENT PRICING 1445 00:46:16,206 --> 00:46:17,141 ORDINANCE. KEEP THIS PRETTY 1446 00:46:17,141 --> 00:46:19,376 SHORT. GIVEN A LOT OF THE GREAT 1447 00:46:19,376 --> 00:46:21,278 POINTS ALREADY SHARED TODAY, 1448 00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:21,912 PLEASE PRIORITIZE LISTENING TO 1449 00:46:21,912 --> 00:46:23,480 US SEATTLE RESIDENTS, YOUR 1450 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,649 VOTERS AND CONSTITUENTS 1451 00:46:25,649 --> 00:46:26,483 REGARDING BANNING SURVEILLANCE, 1452 00:46:26,483 --> 00:46:27,050 PRICING AND GROCERIES. AND 1453 00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:29,987 PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW YOU 1454 00:46:29,987 --> 00:46:30,521 INTERPRET BIG GROCERY AND 1455 00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:32,189 TECHNOLOGY LOBBYISTS FEEDBACK 1456 00:46:32,189 --> 00:46:36,126 AND CONSIDER THE BIASES THEY MAY 1457 00:46:36,126 --> 00:46:37,361 HOLD REGARDING THIS ISSUE. SO 1458 00:46:37,361 --> 00:46:38,629 PERSONALLY TAKES UP A HUGE PART 1459 00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:39,763 OF MY LIVING EXPENSES AS A 1460 00:46:39,763 --> 00:46:41,265 RENTER. AFTER HOUSING, WE ALL 1461 00:46:41,265 --> 00:46:42,432 DESERVE AN EQUAL CHANCE TO BE 1462 00:46:42,432 --> 00:46:43,800 ABLE TO MAKE IT IN THIS TOWN 1463 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,602 WITH FOOD ON THE TABLE, THE 1464 00:46:45,602 --> 00:46:47,004 PRICES OF AN ITEM SHOULD BE THE 1465 00:46:47,004 --> 00:46:48,205 SAME FOR EVERYONE WHEN WE SHOP, 1466 00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:49,306 ESPECIALLY FOR ESSENTIAL ITEMS 1467 00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:51,942 LIKE GROCERIES. THAT'S BASIC 1468 00:46:51,942 --> 00:46:53,277 FAIRNESS AND THE BIG BOX GROCERY 1469 00:46:53,277 --> 00:46:54,378 CHAIN SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO 1470 00:46:54,378 --> 00:46:55,879 USE OUR DATA TO EXPLOIT THE COST 1471 00:46:55,879 --> 00:46:57,047 OF BASIC GOODS TO LIVE. SO I 1472 00:46:57,047 --> 00:46:59,283 THINK THIS ONE'S PRETTY SIMPLE. 1473 00:46:59,283 --> 00:46:59,850 PLEASE PASS THIS ORDINANCE 1474 00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:02,753 WITHOUT WEAKENING IT. AND ALSO 1475 00:47:02,753 --> 00:47:04,988 URGE YOU TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING 1476 00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:05,622 FUTURE WORK FOR ESTABLISHING A 1477 00:47:05,622 --> 00:47:06,757 PUBLIC GROCERY STORES AS WELL. 1478 00:47:06,757 --> 00:47:10,027 THANK YOU. 1479 00:47:10,027 --> 00:47:13,263 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. 1480 00:47:13,263 --> 00:47:14,665 ALVAREZ. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1481 00:47:14,665 --> 00:47:18,335 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1482 00:47:18,335 --> 00:47:26,176 BEEN UNMUTED. 1483 00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:29,179 -- THANK YOU. BUSINESS GROUPS 1484 00:47:29,179 --> 00:47:32,149 ARE LIARS AND FEAR MONGERING 1485 00:47:32,149 --> 00:47:35,419 MADE EVEN WORSE BECAUSE THEY. 1486 00:47:35,419 --> 00:47:36,787 OVERWORK AND UNDERPAY EMPLOYEES 1487 00:47:36,787 --> 00:47:39,923 IN THE GROCERY INDUSTRY. THE 1488 00:47:39,923 --> 00:47:40,424 CORPORATE LOOPHOLES OF 1489 00:47:40,424 --> 00:47:45,262 AMENDMENTS ONE AND THREE ARE NOT 1490 00:47:45,262 --> 00:47:47,831 ACCEPTABLE. REMOVING INTANGIBLE 1491 00:47:47,831 --> 00:47:50,634 HARM FROM THE LEGISLATION WOULD 1492 00:47:50,634 --> 00:47:53,637 DAMPEN CONSUMER RIGHTS. PRICE 1493 00:47:53,637 --> 00:47:54,271 MANIPULATION BASED ON PERSONAL 1494 00:47:54,271 --> 00:47:56,240 DATA IS NOT LIMITED TO PAYING 1495 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,543 MORE FOR ITEMS. IT IS ALSO THE 1496 00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:01,745 LOSS IN CONFIDENCE AND FAIRNESS 1497 00:48:01,745 --> 00:48:03,714 THAT CONSUMERS IN OUR CITY 1498 00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:06,216 DEPEND ON. THESE MIGHT BE 1499 00:48:06,216 --> 00:48:08,785 CONSIDERED INTANGIBLE AT FIRST, 1500 00:48:08,785 --> 00:48:10,921 HOWEVER, SHOPPERS MUST HAVE THE 1501 00:48:10,921 --> 00:48:13,156 RIGHT TO SEEK PUNITIVE JUDGMENT 1502 00:48:13,156 --> 00:48:16,827 AGAINST MULTIMILLION DOLLAR 1503 00:48:16,827 --> 00:48:18,095 CORPORATIONS. AMENDMENT TWO 1504 00:48:18,095 --> 00:48:20,597 WOULD LET THEM OFF THE HOOK, 1505 00:48:20,597 --> 00:48:22,733 GIVING COMPANIES A CHANCE TO 1506 00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:25,469 PUSH THE LIMITS OF PRICE 1507 00:48:25,469 --> 00:48:27,838 SURVEILLANCE. IF YOU INCLUDE 1508 00:48:27,838 --> 00:48:29,973 THESE AMENDMENTS, YOU ARE 1509 00:48:29,973 --> 00:48:32,476 PREEMPTING THE RIGHTS OF 1510 00:48:32,476 --> 00:48:35,078 CONSUMERS AND OPENING THE WAY 1511 00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:37,981 FOR CORPORATIONS TO FIND MORE 1512 00:48:37,981 --> 00:48:39,416 DEVIOUS WAYS TO TAKE MONEY FROM 1513 00:48:39,416 --> 00:48:43,920 ALL OF US DON'T GIVE IN TO THESE 1514 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,522 CORPORATIONS. THANK YOU ALL AND 1515 00:48:45,522 --> 00:48:48,191 HAVE A GREAT DAY. 1516 00:48:48,191 --> 00:48:54,831 -- [APPLAUSE] 1517 00:48:54,831 --> 00:48:56,133 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN 1518 00:48:56,133 --> 00:48:57,601 EMBER. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1519 00:48:57,601 --> 00:49:00,938 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1520 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:08,812 BEEN UNMUTED. 1521 00:49:09,046 --> 00:49:10,213 -- CHAIR RINCK AND DISTINGUISHED 1522 00:49:10,213 --> 00:49:12,816 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M 1523 00:49:12,816 --> 00:49:15,919 SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE 1524 00:49:15,919 --> 00:49:16,553 WASHINGTON RETAIL ASSOCIATION. 1525 00:49:16,553 --> 00:49:19,022 LIKE UFCW 3000 AND MANY 1526 00:49:19,022 --> 00:49:21,224 SPEAKERS. TODAY, OUR MEMBERS 1527 00:49:21,224 --> 00:49:23,427 SUPPORT THE GOAL OF THE FAIR 1528 00:49:23,427 --> 00:49:25,195 PRICING LEGISLATION, A BAN ON 1529 00:49:25,195 --> 00:49:27,264 ALGORITHMIC PRICE 1530 00:49:27,264 --> 00:49:27,864 DISCRIMINATION. PEOPLE SHOULD 1531 00:49:27,864 --> 00:49:29,466 NOT PAY MORE FOR THEIR GROCERIES 1532 00:49:29,466 --> 00:49:33,804 BASED ON THEIR PERSONAL DATA. 1533 00:49:33,804 --> 00:49:35,706 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS LEGISLATION 1534 00:49:35,706 --> 00:49:38,075 DOES MORE THAN BAN PRICING 1535 00:49:38,075 --> 00:49:39,843 DISCRIMINATION. IT ALSO CREATES 1536 00:49:39,843 --> 00:49:41,712 REAL RISKS THAT COULD COST 1537 00:49:41,712 --> 00:49:44,748 SEATTLE CONSUMERS TENS OF 1538 00:49:44,748 --> 00:49:45,349 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY. 1539 00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:47,084 WHY? BECAUSE IT COULD MEAN THE 1540 00:49:47,084 --> 00:49:48,719 END OF COUPONS, DISCOUNTS AND 1541 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,288 LOYALTY PROGRAMS, INCLUDING FUEL 1542 00:49:51,288 --> 00:49:54,524 REWARDS LEGISLATION, COULD 1543 00:49:54,524 --> 00:49:56,593 CREATE OTHER RISKS BY PREVENTING 1544 00:49:56,593 --> 00:49:59,463 THE USE OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS 1545 00:49:59,463 --> 00:50:01,698 THAT GROCERS DESPERATELY NEED TO 1546 00:50:01,698 --> 00:50:03,333 COMBAT ORGANIZED RETAIL, CRIME 1547 00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:06,169 AND VIOLENCE. OUR STATE HAS THE 1548 00:50:06,169 --> 00:50:07,938 UNFORTUNATE DISTINCTION OF 1549 00:50:07,938 --> 00:50:09,806 LEADING THE NATION IN ORGANIZED 1550 00:50:09,806 --> 00:50:11,641 RETAIL, CRIME, AND A RECENT 1551 00:50:11,641 --> 00:50:14,277 STUDY OF 2500 FRONTLINE RETAIL 1552 00:50:14,277 --> 00:50:17,080 WORKERS FOUND THAT CUSTOMER 1553 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,749 AGGRESSION IS SO SEVERE, THE TWO 1554 00:50:18,749 --> 00:50:19,883 THIRDS HAVE CONSIDERED LEAVING 1555 00:50:19,883 --> 00:50:21,818 THEIR JOBS, AND THEY REPORT THAT 1556 00:50:21,818 --> 00:50:24,421 IT'S ONLY GETTING WORSE. WE 1557 00:50:24,421 --> 00:50:26,323 HAVE SINCERELY APPRECIATED THE 1558 00:50:26,323 --> 00:50:27,958 OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS 1559 00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:28,992 LEGISLATION WITH YOU, CHAIR 1560 00:50:28,992 --> 00:50:31,061 RINCK, AND WITH THE MAYOR'S 1561 00:50:31,061 --> 00:50:34,631 OFFICE. WE STILL HAVE TIME TO 1562 00:50:34,631 --> 00:50:35,265 IMPROVE THIS LEGISLATION SO THAT 1563 00:50:35,265 --> 00:50:38,201 IT FULLY PROTECTS CONSUMERS AND 1564 00:50:38,201 --> 00:50:44,107 GROCERY WORKERS. THANK YOU. 1565 00:50:44,107 --> 00:50:45,742 -- OUR FINAL SPEAKER IS PATRICK 1566 00:50:45,742 --> 00:50:46,643 WHITE. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1567 00:50:46,643 --> 00:50:50,113 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1568 00:50:50,113 --> 00:50:57,921 BEEN UNMUTED. 1569 00:50:58,155 --> 00:51:00,924 -- HI, I'M PATRICK, RESIDENT OF 1570 00:51:00,924 --> 00:51:02,459 DISTRICT TWO, SPEAKING IN FAVOR 1571 00:51:02,459 --> 00:51:04,027 OF THE FAIR PRICING INITIATIVE 1572 00:51:04,027 --> 00:51:05,562 AND AGAINST THE PROPOSED 1573 00:51:05,562 --> 00:51:06,797 AMENDMENTS. LET'S START BY 1574 00:51:06,797 --> 00:51:07,397 UNPACKING SOME OF THE LIES OF 1575 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:08,065 THE BIG RETAILERS HAVE BEEN 1576 00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:10,300 SPAMMING ALL OUR PHONES WITH. 1577 00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:11,635 THIS BILL WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING 1578 00:51:11,635 --> 00:51:12,369 MORE EXPENSIVE. AND IF THEY 1579 00:51:12,369 --> 00:51:13,904 CARED ABOUT THAT, THEY WOULD 1580 00:51:13,904 --> 00:51:15,472 STOP GOUGING US. IT WILL NOT BAN 1581 00:51:15,472 --> 00:51:16,473 REWARDS PROGRAMS AND IT WILL NOT 1582 00:51:16,473 --> 00:51:17,874 BAN COUPONS. SO YES, YOUR 1583 00:51:17,874 --> 00:51:18,675 MAILBOX CAN STILL BE FLOODED 1584 00:51:18,675 --> 00:51:20,710 WITH THEM. WHAT IT WILL DO IS 1585 00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:21,945 STOP THEM FROM CHARGING YOU A 1586 00:51:21,945 --> 00:51:23,380 HIGHER PRICE THAN SOMEONE ELSE. 1587 00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:24,514 IMAGINE YOU'RE AT CHECKOUT AND 1588 00:51:24,514 --> 00:51:26,183 THE MANAGER COMES UP AND TELLS 1589 00:51:26,183 --> 00:51:26,983 YOU YOUR FILE SAYS YOU'RE 1590 00:51:26,983 --> 00:51:27,651 WILLING TO PAY MORE FOR THIS. SO 1591 00:51:27,651 --> 00:51:28,785 GIVE ME AN EXTRA DOLLAR PER 1592 00:51:28,785 --> 00:51:30,921 ITEM. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT FILE? 1593 00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:32,522 SECOND OF ALL, NO, I WILL NOT 1594 00:51:32,522 --> 00:51:34,291 GIVE YOU AN EXTRA DOLLAR. I AM 1595 00:51:34,291 --> 00:51:35,592 LEAVING. THEY WILL BE OUT OF 1596 00:51:35,592 --> 00:51:36,493 BUSINESS SO QUICKLY. IF THEY 1597 00:51:36,493 --> 00:51:38,295 WERE THAT UPFRONT ABOUT IT. SO 1598 00:51:38,295 --> 00:51:39,796 THAT'S WHY THEY HIDE IT BEHIND 1599 00:51:39,796 --> 00:51:41,264 A COMPUTER. BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT 1600 00:51:41,264 --> 00:51:42,432 FILE? THEY BUY YOUR DATA FROM 1601 00:51:42,432 --> 00:51:43,633 DATA BROKERS, AND THAT'S HOW 1602 00:51:43,633 --> 00:51:44,634 THEY WANT TO DECIDE WHAT PRICE 1603 00:51:44,634 --> 00:51:46,703 TO CHARGE YOU. AND THEN THEY USE 1604 00:51:46,703 --> 00:51:48,138 YOUR REWARDS ACCOUNT TO LINK 1605 00:51:48,138 --> 00:51:49,439 THAT TO POSEDLY ANONYMIZED DATA 1606 00:51:49,439 --> 00:51:50,674 TO YOU. SO ACTUALLY, THIS BILL 1607 00:51:50,674 --> 00:51:52,509 WOULD BE BETTER IF IT IF IT DID 1608 00:51:52,509 --> 00:51:54,010 GET RID OF REWARDS PROGRAMS, 1609 00:51:54,010 --> 00:51:55,078 THEY KNOW WAY MORE ABOUT YOU 1610 00:51:55,078 --> 00:51:56,980 THAN THEY SHOULD. FOR EXAMPLE, 1611 00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:59,616 THEY DO NOT NEED TO KNOW THAT I 1612 00:51:59,616 --> 00:52:00,250 ACCIDENTALLY LIKED SOMEONE'S 1613 00:52:00,250 --> 00:52:00,951 PHOTO FROM FIVE YEARS AGO AND 1614 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:01,785 DELETED MY ACCOUNT. THEY DO NOT 1615 00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:03,753 NEED TO KNOW THAT. IT TOOK ME 1616 00:52:03,753 --> 00:52:04,988 FOUR SEARCHES TO FIGURE OUT HOW 1617 00:52:04,988 --> 00:52:05,989 TO SCREEN SHARE ON FACETIME, 1618 00:52:05,989 --> 00:52:07,457 BEFORE GIVING UP AND TRYING A 1619 00:52:07,457 --> 00:52:08,658 DIFFERENT PLATFORM. THEY DO NOT 1620 00:52:08,658 --> 00:52:09,893 NEED TO KNOW WHERE I WAS WHEN I 1621 00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:10,460 IGNORED A PHONE CALL THAT I 1622 00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:11,661 DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER. IN FACT, 1623 00:52:11,661 --> 00:52:13,196 THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN KNOW MY 1624 00:52:13,196 --> 00:52:14,598 NAME. IT'S A GROCERY STORE. I 1625 00:52:14,598 --> 00:52:16,533 BUY FOOD AND THAT IS IT. THAT IS 1626 00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:17,767 ALL THEY SHOULD KNOW. PASS THIS 1627 00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:21,505 BILL WITH NO AMENDMENTS. THANK 1628 00:52:21,505 --> 00:52:21,705 YOU. 1629 00:52:21,705 --> 00:52:29,212 -- [APPLAUSE] 1630 00:52:29,446 --> 00:52:30,280 -- WE HAD ONE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC 1631 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,682 COMMENT OR SIGN IN. SO, 1632 00:52:32,682 --> 00:52:34,618 MAGDALENA, WHERE PLEASE PRESS 1633 00:52:34,618 --> 00:52:35,352 STAR SIX WHEN YOU 1634 00:52:35,352 --> 00:52:36,486 -- YOU HEAR THE PROMPT, YOU'VE 1635 00:52:36,486 --> 00:52:37,988 BEEN UNMUTED. AND THIS IS OUR 1636 00:52:37,988 --> 00:52:39,322 LAST ONLINE SPEAKER THAT IS 1637 00:52:39,322 --> 00:52:46,997 REGISTERED 1638 00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:57,274 -- HELLO, AM I AUDIBLE? 1639 00:52:57,274 --> 00:53:00,243 -- YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 1640 00:53:00,243 --> 00:53:06,016 -- OKAY THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR 1641 00:53:06,016 --> 00:53:09,085 TAKING MY PUBLIC COMMENTARY I'M 1642 00:53:09,085 --> 00:53:10,554 CALLING IN TODAY TO INFORM YOU 1643 00:53:10,554 --> 00:53:11,788 OF SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT NOT 1644 00:53:11,788 --> 00:53:15,692 KNOW, WHICH IS THAT TRANSPHOBIA 1645 00:53:15,692 --> 00:53:18,929 DOES NOT EXIST TO POLICE AND 1646 00:53:18,929 --> 00:53:22,032 DESTROY TRANS PEOPLE. IT EXISTS 1647 00:53:22,032 --> 00:53:25,202 TO POLICE AND PUNISH CIS PEOPLE. 1648 00:53:25,202 --> 00:53:28,271 WE ARE THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT 1649 00:53:28,271 --> 00:53:31,841 HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEP OUT OF 1650 00:53:31,841 --> 00:53:33,176 LINE. OUR SUICIDES, THE RAPE 1651 00:53:33,176 --> 00:53:37,047 THAT WE ARE MURDERED, HOW WE ARE 1652 00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:38,682 SOCIALLY EXCLUDED, AND HOW EVEN 1653 00:53:38,682 --> 00:53:40,317 WHEN WE ARE MURDERED, WE CANNOT 1654 00:53:40,317 --> 00:53:42,819 EVEN BE GRANTED THE DECENCY OF 1655 00:53:42,819 --> 00:53:46,189 ADMITTING WHEN A HATE CRIME IS A 1656 00:53:46,189 --> 00:53:47,791 HATE CRIME. JUNIPER BLESSING WAS 1657 00:53:47,791 --> 00:53:50,994 STABBED 40 TIMES. COUNCIL. THIS 1658 00:53:50,994 --> 00:53:52,829 IS COMMISERATE WITH OTHER HATE 1659 00:53:52,829 --> 00:53:55,498 CRIME MURDERS AND OTHER CRIMES. 1660 00:53:55,498 --> 00:53:58,835 IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT HER 1661 00:53:58,835 --> 00:53:59,402 MURDERER HAD STALKED OTHER 1662 00:53:59,402 --> 00:54:05,609 WOMEN. SHE MURDERED HER. AND HE 1663 00:54:05,609 --> 00:54:07,210 MURDERED HER AS A WOMAN. SO EVEN 1664 00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:10,046 IF IT'S NOT TRANSPHOBIA, IT IS 1665 00:54:10,046 --> 00:54:14,251 STILL FEMICIDE. IT IS STILL A 1666 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:15,852 MISOGYNISTIC HATE CRIME. AND IT 1667 00:54:15,852 --> 00:54:18,221 SHOULD BE TREATED THAT WAY. BUT 1668 00:54:18,221 --> 00:54:20,457 INSTEAD HE HAS BEEN GIVEN EVERY 1669 00:54:20,457 --> 00:54:24,694 SINGLE COMFORT. WHILE THE MURDER 1670 00:54:24,694 --> 00:54:26,630 VICTIM AND HER FAMILY HAVE BEEN 1671 00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:29,199 GIVEN EVERY SINGLE EXCUSE. WHAT 1672 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,968 HAPPENED TO JUNIPER BLESSING IS 1673 00:54:31,968 --> 00:54:32,569 SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE AND 1674 00:54:32,569 --> 00:54:34,437 SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. YOU 1675 00:54:34,437 --> 00:54:38,108 CAN PREVENT THE NEXT BY TAKING A 1676 00:54:38,108 --> 00:54:41,011 FIRMER STAND AGAINST TRANSPHOBIA 1677 00:54:41,011 --> 00:54:41,611 AND PROSECUTING MURDERERS OF 1678 00:54:41,611 --> 00:54:43,380 TRANS PEOPLE TO THE FULLEST 1679 00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:46,916 EXTENT OF THE LAW, ESPECIALLY 1680 00:54:46,916 --> 00:54:50,720 WHEN BLACK AND BROWN BODIES ARE 1681 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,555 BEING MURDERED. THERE ARE TOO 1682 00:54:52,555 --> 00:54:54,190 MANY BLACK AND INDIGENOUS TRANS 1683 00:54:54,190 --> 00:54:55,025 WOMEN WHO ARE MURDERED IN THIS 1684 00:54:55,025 --> 00:54:56,960 CITY, AND WHOSE MURDERERS ARE 1685 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,063 NEVER FOUND. PLEASE TAKE THIS 1686 00:55:00,063 --> 00:55:03,033 EPIDEMIC OF TRANS SIDE AND 1687 00:55:03,033 --> 00:55:04,067 FEMICIDE SERIOUSLY AND CALL A 1688 00:55:04,067 --> 00:55:14,110 HATE CRIME A HATE CRIME. 1689 00:55:14,110 --> 00:55:14,878 -- THAT WAS OUR FINAL. THERE ARE 1690 00:55:14,878 --> 00:55:17,247 NO ADDITIONAL REGISTERED 1691 00:55:17,247 --> 00:55:17,514 SPEAKERS. 1692 00:55:17,514 --> 00:55:18,448 -- THANK YOU. CLERK. AND WITH 1693 00:55:18,448 --> 00:55:20,016 THAT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR 1694 00:55:20,016 --> 00:55:21,184 ITEMS OF BUSINESS. AND I WANT TO 1695 00:55:21,184 --> 00:55:22,218 THANK EVERYONE AGAIN FOR COMING 1696 00:55:22,218 --> 00:55:23,953 OUT AND PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT 1697 00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:25,255 TODAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR 1698 00:55:25,255 --> 00:55:25,889 ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS. THE WORK 1699 00:55:25,889 --> 00:55:28,425 OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND WITH 1700 00:55:28,425 --> 00:55:30,827 THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR 1701 00:55:30,827 --> 00:55:31,928 FIRST AND ONLY ITEM OF BUSINESS 1702 00:55:31,928 --> 00:55:32,962 FOR TODAY. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE 1703 00:55:32,962 --> 00:55:37,534 READ ITEM ONE INTO THE RECORD? 1704 00:55:37,534 --> 00:55:38,768 -- ITEM ONE AN ORDINANCE 1705 00:55:38,768 --> 00:55:42,072 RELATING TO PROHIBITING 1706 00:55:42,072 --> 00:55:42,572 ALGORITHMIC-BASED PRICE 1707 00:55:42,572 --> 00:55:44,207 DISCRIMINATION REQUIRING COVERED 1708 00:55:44,207 --> 00:55:46,443 RETAIL OR DISCLOSURES TO 1709 00:55:46,443 --> 00:55:47,077 CONSUMERS REQUIRING THE COVERED 1710 00:55:47,077 --> 00:55:49,279 RETAILERS RETAIN CERTAIN RECORDS 1711 00:55:49,279 --> 00:55:53,283 AND ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 7.35 TO 1712 00:55:53,283 --> 00:55:54,784 THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE. 1713 00:55:54,784 --> 00:55:55,318 BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND 1714 00:55:55,318 --> 00:55:56,386 POSSIBLE VOTES. 1715 00:55:56,386 --> 00:55:57,754 -- ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, WE'RE 1716 00:55:57,754 --> 00:55:59,622 HERE. TODAY IS OUR LAST 1717 00:55:59,622 --> 00:56:01,591 COMMITTEE HEARING ON THE FAIR 1718 00:56:01,591 --> 00:56:02,125 PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 1719 00:56:02,125 --> 00:56:02,959 ORDINANCE, CO-CREATED BY MY 1720 00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:03,927 OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF THE 1721 00:56:03,927 --> 00:56:06,162 MAYOR IN COLLABORATION AND 1722 00:56:06,162 --> 00:56:08,832 CO-SPONSORED BY VICE CHAIR 1723 00:56:08,832 --> 00:56:09,466 FOSTER AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 1724 00:56:09,466 --> 00:56:10,600 NOW, AFTER MONTHS OF DEEP 1725 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,835 ENGAGEMENT WITH PRIVACY AND 1726 00:56:11,835 --> 00:56:14,204 CONSUMER CONSUMER PROTECTION 1727 00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:16,139 EFFORTS, COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, 1728 00:56:16,139 --> 00:56:17,841 OUR LABOR PARTNERS AND YES, THE 1729 00:56:17,841 --> 00:56:20,944 GROCERY INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS 1730 00:56:20,944 --> 00:56:21,945 AND LOBBYISTS. WE CRAFTED THIS 1731 00:56:21,945 --> 00:56:23,580 BILL AND TO PUT GUARDRAILS ON 1732 00:56:23,580 --> 00:56:26,516 ONE SPECIFIC PRACTICE LARGE 1733 00:56:26,516 --> 00:56:29,252 GROCERY AND DELIVERY COMPANIES 1734 00:56:29,252 --> 00:56:29,719 SETTING, ALTERING OR 1735 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,154 MANIPULATING THE PRICE OF GOODS 1736 00:56:31,154 --> 00:56:33,022 BASED ON MONITORING, TRACKING, 1737 00:56:33,022 --> 00:56:35,859 OR AUTOMATED ANALYSIS OF OUR 1738 00:56:35,859 --> 00:56:37,427 BEHAVIOR, LOCATION, 1739 00:56:37,427 --> 00:56:39,162 DEMOGRAPHICS, BIOMETRIC DATA, OR 1740 00:56:39,162 --> 00:56:42,265 OTHER PERSONAL INFORMATION, 1741 00:56:42,265 --> 00:56:42,899 INCLUDING PERSONAL INFORMATION 1742 00:56:42,899 --> 00:56:46,202 ACQUIRED FROM A THIRD PARTY OR 1743 00:56:46,202 --> 00:56:46,803 PERSONAL INFORMATION THAT IS 1744 00:56:46,803 --> 00:56:48,071 GATHERED, PURCHASED OR COLLECTED 1745 00:56:48,071 --> 00:56:51,141 BY THESE COMPANIES USING 1746 00:56:51,141 --> 00:56:51,641 ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE 1747 00:56:51,641 --> 00:56:53,376 TECHNOLOGY THERE'S A LOT OF 1748 00:56:53,376 --> 00:56:55,078 LEGALESE IN THIS BILL, AND I 1749 00:56:55,078 --> 00:56:56,379 THINK SOME FOLKS ARE WONDERING, 1750 00:56:56,379 --> 00:56:58,148 WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR EVERYDAY 1751 00:56:58,148 --> 00:57:00,550 SHOPPERS? AND IT'S BASICALLY 1752 00:57:00,550 --> 00:57:02,485 THIS IF A NATIONAL GROCERY CHAIN 1753 00:57:02,485 --> 00:57:06,189 WANTS TO SEND JANE Q PUBLIC AND 1754 00:57:06,189 --> 00:57:07,290 ALL OF US WITH CLUB CARDS, A 1755 00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:09,993 COUPON FOR ICE CREAM, BECAUSE 1756 00:57:09,993 --> 00:57:12,529 IT'S SUMMER AND IT'S HOT AND 1757 00:57:12,529 --> 00:57:15,131 WE ALL DESERVE IT, THAT'S FINE 1758 00:57:15,131 --> 00:57:16,866 UNDER THIS LEGISLATION. BUT IF 1759 00:57:16,866 --> 00:57:18,735 THEY'RE SENDING JUST ONE COUPON 1760 00:57:18,735 --> 00:57:19,836 FOR ICE CREAM ONLY TO JANE RIGHT 1761 00:57:19,836 --> 00:57:22,005 NOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW SHE'S 1762 00:57:22,005 --> 00:57:24,440 ONLINE AND THEY BOUGHT 1763 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,042 INFORMATION THAT SHE GETS PAID 1764 00:57:26,042 --> 00:57:27,544 ON FRIDAY AND IT'S HER KID'S 1765 00:57:27,544 --> 00:57:28,578 BIRTHDAY ON SATURDAY, AND SHE'S 1766 00:57:28,578 --> 00:57:30,313 BEEN GOOGLING CAKE RECIPES ALL 1767 00:57:30,313 --> 00:57:34,150 WEEK. THAT'S NOT OKAY. IT'S 1768 00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:36,219 NOT FAIR TO HAVE DIFFERENT 1769 00:57:36,219 --> 00:57:38,755 PRICES FOR EACH SHOPPER BASED ON 1770 00:57:38,755 --> 00:57:40,657 THEIR PERSONAL DATA. IT'S 1771 00:57:40,657 --> 00:57:42,792 CERTAINLY NOT TRANSPARENT ON HOW 1772 00:57:42,792 --> 00:57:43,493 THEY SET JANE'S SPECIAL PRICE, 1773 00:57:43,493 --> 00:57:45,228 LET ALONE HOW THEY GOT ALL OF 1774 00:57:45,228 --> 00:57:47,897 THAT PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM 1775 00:57:47,897 --> 00:57:51,367 HER AND JUST AS EASILY AS THEY 1776 00:57:51,367 --> 00:57:53,002 COULD OFFER A DISCOUNT ON THAT 1777 00:57:53,002 --> 00:57:54,671 ICE CREAM FOR JANE, BECAUSE THEY 1778 00:57:54,671 --> 00:57:56,706 KNOW IT'S HER KID'S BIRTHDAY, 1779 00:57:56,706 --> 00:57:58,174 THEY COULD RAISE THE PRICE ON 1780 00:57:58,174 --> 00:58:00,610 NYQUIL BECAUSE THEY SAW SHE WAS 1781 00:58:00,610 --> 00:58:04,380 GOOGLING KID'S FLU SYMPTOMS. SO 1782 00:58:04,380 --> 00:58:05,582 IF WE PASS THIS BILL, IT'LL BE 1783 00:58:05,582 --> 00:58:07,517 ILLEGAL FOR THESE CORPORATIONS 1784 00:58:07,517 --> 00:58:09,319 TO USE WHATEVER AI ALGORITHMS 1785 00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:10,753 SUCK UP OUR OWN PERSONAL DATA TO 1786 00:58:10,753 --> 00:58:12,655 GET US TO BUY SOMETHING OR PAY 1787 00:58:12,655 --> 00:58:14,424 MORE FOR IT THAN OUR NEIGHBOR. 1788 00:58:14,424 --> 00:58:18,394 THE SIMPLEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT 1789 00:58:18,394 --> 00:58:19,028 THIS ORDINANCE IS THIS THE PRICE 1790 00:58:19,028 --> 00:58:21,698 OF THE GROCERIES SHOULD BE BASED 1791 00:58:21,698 --> 00:58:23,166 ON THE PRODUCT, NOT ON WHO THE 1792 00:58:23,166 --> 00:58:25,168 SHOPPER IS OR WHAT AN ALGORITHM 1793 00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:28,438 THINKS THAT SHOPPER WILL PAY. 1794 00:58:28,438 --> 00:58:36,346 -- [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] 1795 00:58:36,479 --> 00:58:37,614 [APPLAUSE] 1796 00:58:37,614 --> 00:58:38,248 -- THESE LARGE NATIONAL CHAINS 1797 00:58:38,248 --> 00:58:39,215 AND THIRD PARTY DELIVERY SYSTEMS 1798 00:58:39,215 --> 00:58:41,851 ARE ALREADY MAKING BILLIONS. 1799 00:58:41,851 --> 00:58:43,553 SELLING THE DATA WE WILLINGLY 1800 00:58:43,553 --> 00:58:45,421 GAVE THEM WHEN WE JOINED THEIR 1801 00:58:45,421 --> 00:58:47,924 LOYALTY CARD PROGRAMS AND 1802 00:58:47,924 --> 00:58:49,225 DOWNLOADED THEIR APPS. THEY'RE 1803 00:58:49,225 --> 00:58:50,727 BUYING EVEN MORE DATA ABOUT US 1804 00:58:50,727 --> 00:58:52,262 FROM DATA BROKERS. THEY'RE 1805 00:58:52,262 --> 00:58:53,730 INVESTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS 1806 00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:57,000 INTO AI FOR DRIVEN, AI DRIVEN 1807 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,935 PRICING, INVENTORY MANAGEMENT, 1808 00:58:58,935 --> 00:59:00,236 AND PROMOTION SCHEMES. THEY'RE 1809 00:59:00,236 --> 00:59:02,372 NOT GATHERING OUR DATA OR 1810 00:59:02,372 --> 00:59:04,173 INVESTING IN THESE TECHNOLOGIES 1811 00:59:04,173 --> 00:59:06,976 JUST TO GIVE US DISCOUNTS. SO 1812 00:59:06,976 --> 00:59:09,879 COLLEAGUES, SHOULD WE. WE SHOULD 1813 00:59:09,879 --> 00:59:12,215 TODAY PASS A STRONG ENFORCEABLE 1814 00:59:12,215 --> 00:59:14,617 POLICY WITHOUT LOOPHOLES THAT 1815 00:59:14,617 --> 00:59:15,051 LET COMPANIES CALL 1816 00:59:15,051 --> 00:59:18,221 INDIVIDUALIZED PRICES A LOYALTY 1817 00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:19,989 BENEFIT OR DISCOUNT. AND I'M 1818 00:59:19,989 --> 00:59:22,959 REALLY PROUD OF THE STRONG 1819 00:59:22,959 --> 00:59:23,626 COALITION OF SUPPORT BEHIND THIS 1820 00:59:23,626 --> 00:59:24,928 POLICY. AND WE HEARD FROM A 1821 00:59:24,928 --> 00:59:27,030 NUMBER OF THESE PARTNERS TODAY 1822 00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:28,998 FROM WASHINGTON PEOPLE'S 1823 00:59:28,998 --> 00:59:31,100 PRIVACY, THE ACLU, THE NEXUS OF 1824 00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,336 PRIVACY, CONSUMER REPORTS, TECH, 1825 00:59:33,336 --> 00:59:35,405 EQUITY ACTION, TRANSIT RIDERS 1826 00:59:35,405 --> 00:59:36,839 UNION, WASHINGTON FAIR TRADE 1827 00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:38,741 COALITION, AMAZON EMPLOYEES FOR 1828 00:59:38,741 --> 00:59:41,744 CLIMATE JUSTICE, APRI, SEATTLE 1829 00:59:41,744 --> 00:59:43,913 350 SEATTLE QUEER POWER 1830 00:59:43,913 --> 00:59:45,148 ALLIANCE, WASHINGTON WORKING 1831 00:59:45,148 --> 00:59:45,748 FAMILIES PARTY FOOD AND WATER 1832 00:59:45,748 --> 00:59:48,618 WATCH, LAVENDER RIGHTS PROJECT, 1833 00:59:48,618 --> 00:59:50,453 WASHINGTON AI RESISTANCE, IAM 1834 00:59:50,453 --> 00:59:55,325 SEVEN, 551 PEOPLE POWER, 1835 00:59:55,325 --> 00:59:55,925 WASHINGTON SOLIDARITY, BUDGET 1836 00:59:55,925 --> 00:59:58,094 COMMUNITIES, NOT CAMERAS STOP 1837 00:59:58,094 --> 00:59:59,429 SURVEILLANCE CITY BE. SEATTLE. 1838 00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:01,764 SEATTLE. INDIVISIBLE. WORKING. 1839 01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:03,433 WASHINGTON. FAITH. ACTION. 1840 01:00:03,433 --> 01:00:05,201 NETWORK. SEIU 775. QUEEN ANNE 1841 01:00:05,201 --> 01:00:07,737 BAPTIST CHURCH FAITH ACTION 1842 01:00:07,737 --> 01:00:10,573 NETWORK ONE AMERICA, WOODLAND 1843 01:00:10,573 --> 01:00:11,741 PARK PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, THE 1844 01:00:11,741 --> 01:00:13,409 CHURCH COUNCIL OF GREATER 1845 01:00:13,409 --> 01:00:15,244 SEATTLE, AND MLK LABOR. THAT IS 1846 01:00:15,244 --> 01:00:16,879 A STRONG COALITION OF SUPPORT 1847 01:00:16,879 --> 01:00:18,982 BEHIND THIS POLICY, AND I'M 1848 01:00:18,982 --> 01:00:20,883 PROUD THAT WE'LL BE TAKING UP 1849 01:00:20,883 --> 01:00:21,117 ACTION 1850 01:00:21,117 --> 01:00:21,451 -- [APPLAUSE] 1851 01:00:21,451 --> 01:00:21,684 -- ON. 1852 01:00:21,684 --> 01:00:22,018 -- [APPLAUSE] 1853 01:00:22,018 --> 01:00:23,753 -- THIS TODAY. 1854 01:00:23,753 --> 01:00:26,222 -- [APPLAUSE] 1855 01:00:26,222 --> 01:00:26,556 -- ALL RIGHT. 1856 01:00:26,556 --> 01:00:27,657 -- AND WITH THAT, LET'S GET THIS 1857 01:00:27,657 --> 01:00:28,992 SHOW ON THE ROAD BECAUSE WE HAVE 1858 01:00:28,992 --> 01:00:30,693 OUR INCREDIBLE CENTRAL STAFF AT 1859 01:00:30,693 --> 01:00:31,894 THE TABLE TO BRIEF US TODAY ON 1860 01:00:31,894 --> 01:00:35,031 THREE AMENDMENTS. WE WILL BE 1861 01:00:35,031 --> 01:00:35,999 DISCUSSING THESE BEFORE VOTING 1862 01:00:35,999 --> 01:00:37,634 ON THEM. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP 1863 01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:39,435 THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. SO 1864 01:00:39,435 --> 01:00:40,536 CENTRAL STAFF, THANK YOU FOR 1865 01:00:40,536 --> 01:00:42,405 JOINING US AT THE TABLE. IF YOU 1866 01:00:42,405 --> 01:00:43,039 CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELVES FOR THE 1867 01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:43,639 RECORD BEFORE WE GET STARTED, 1868 01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:46,476 THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. THANK 1869 01:00:46,476 --> 01:00:46,676 YOU. 1870 01:00:46,676 --> 01:00:48,111 -- GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIR RINCK 1871 01:00:48,111 --> 01:00:49,379 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE 1872 01:00:49,379 --> 01:00:51,481 RECORD, TAMASO JOHNSON COUNCIL 1873 01:00:51,481 --> 01:00:51,848 CENTRAL STAFF. 1874 01:00:51,848 --> 01:00:53,216 -- JASMINE. MARWAHA. COUNCIL 1875 01:00:53,216 --> 01:00:57,920 CENTRAL STAFF 1876 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,789 -- WONDERFUL. AND I BELIEVE I 1877 01:00:59,789 --> 01:01:02,659 WILL TURN IT FIRST TO 1878 01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:03,826 COUNCILMEMBER. I BELIEVE I WILL 1879 01:01:03,826 --> 01:01:04,627 ACTUALLY BE MOVING THE BILL. 1880 01:01:04,627 --> 01:01:05,928 PARDON ME. BEFORE WE GET INTO 1881 01:01:05,928 --> 01:01:07,463 THE DISCUSSION, WE'LL BE MOVING 1882 01:01:07,463 --> 01:01:08,197 THE BILL. SO I MOVE THAT THE 1883 01:01:08,197 --> 01:01:10,600 COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 1884 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,569 COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, 1885 01:01:13,569 --> 01:01:15,438 2767. IS THERE A SECOND? 1886 01:01:15,438 --> 01:01:15,738 -- SECOND. 1887 01:01:15,738 --> 01:01:18,207 -- IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO 1888 01:01:18,207 --> 01:01:19,042 RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL, 1889 01:01:19,042 --> 01:01:20,643 AND WE WILL NOW CONSIDER 1890 01:01:20,643 --> 01:01:21,244 AMENDMENT ONE. COUNCILMEMBER. 1891 01:01:21,244 --> 01:01:21,978 FOSTER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED TO 1892 01:01:21,978 --> 01:01:24,113 MOVE AMENDMENT ONE. 1893 01:01:24,113 --> 01:01:25,915 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. 1894 01:01:25,915 --> 01:01:26,649 RINCK AND FIRST, LET ME JUST 1895 01:01:26,649 --> 01:01:28,117 START OFF BY SAYING AND 1896 01:01:28,117 --> 01:01:28,751 EXPRESSING MY APPRECIATION FOR 1897 01:01:28,751 --> 01:01:30,319 YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE 1898 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:31,320 WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS 1899 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,357 REALLY IMPORTANT BILL. IT HAS 1900 01:01:34,357 --> 01:01:35,758 JUST BEEN A IT'S A PHRASE BAR 1901 01:01:35,758 --> 01:01:37,427 NONE, BAR NONE. BUT I REALLY 1902 01:01:37,427 --> 01:01:38,094 APPRECIATE THAT. AND I ALSO WANT 1903 01:01:38,094 --> 01:01:40,630 TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE 1904 01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:41,564 MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE STAFF 1905 01:01:41,564 --> 01:01:42,999 AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WHO HAVE 1906 01:01:42,999 --> 01:01:43,699 BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG 1907 01:01:43,699 --> 01:01:45,368 TIME, AS WELL AS TO ALL THE 1908 01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:48,037 ADVOCATES WHO HAVE BEEN HERE. IT 1909 01:01:48,037 --> 01:01:48,838 FEELS LIKE AGES AGO BECAUSE WE 1910 01:01:48,838 --> 01:01:50,139 WERE ON RECESS. BUT I APPRECIATE 1911 01:01:50,139 --> 01:01:52,375 YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR 1912 01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:54,477 ORGANIZING, BECAUSE THIS BILL IS 1913 01:01:54,477 --> 01:01:56,212 REALLY IMPORTANT FOR FOR 1914 01:01:56,212 --> 01:01:56,746 SEATTLEITES, FOR SEATTLE 1915 01:01:56,746 --> 01:01:58,081 FAMILIES. BEFORE I SPEAK TO THE 1916 01:01:58,081 --> 01:02:01,050 AMENDMENT CONCEPT, I'LL JUST SAY 1917 01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:02,485 I, I HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE DINNER 1918 01:02:02,485 --> 01:02:03,219 WITH FRIENDS RECENTLY, AND A LOT 1919 01:02:03,219 --> 01:02:05,588 OF MY FRIENDS ARE PARENTS OF 1920 01:02:05,588 --> 01:02:07,857 YOUNG KIDS. AND WE WERE TALKING 1921 01:02:07,857 --> 01:02:09,492 ABOUT THIS BILL. AND ONE OF THE 1922 01:02:09,492 --> 01:02:10,660 THINGS THAT CAME ACROSS SO 1923 01:02:10,660 --> 01:02:12,095 CLEARLY WAS THIS CONCERN. AND 1924 01:02:12,095 --> 01:02:14,330 YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO IT AROUND 1925 01:02:14,330 --> 01:02:15,531 THE CONCEPT THAT YOU COULD BE 1926 01:02:15,531 --> 01:02:16,532 CHARGED A DIFFERENT PRICE FOR 1927 01:02:16,532 --> 01:02:18,000 NYQUIL BECAUSE YOUR KID REALLY 1928 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:18,768 NEEDS IT, RIGHT? YOU COULD BE IN 1929 01:02:18,768 --> 01:02:20,436 THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT LOOKING 1930 01:02:20,436 --> 01:02:22,004 SOMETHING UP AND DEAL WITH 1931 01:02:22,004 --> 01:02:23,639 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING OR SURGE 1932 01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:24,674 PRICING THE SAME WAY WE DEAL 1933 01:02:24,674 --> 01:02:25,842 WITH THAT ON OTHER GOODS. AND 1934 01:02:25,842 --> 01:02:27,577 THAT JUST SHOULD NEVER BE THE 1935 01:02:27,577 --> 01:02:29,178 CASE. SO I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD 1936 01:02:29,178 --> 01:02:29,779 TO SPONSOR THIS BILL. I THINK 1937 01:02:29,779 --> 01:02:31,347 IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY 1938 01:02:31,347 --> 01:02:33,216 MEANINGFUL FOR SEATTLE 1939 01:02:33,216 --> 01:02:34,517 RESIDENTS. I ALSO WANT TO 1940 01:02:34,517 --> 01:02:35,651 EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE 1941 01:02:35,651 --> 01:02:37,186 FOLKS WHO SENT SOME MESSAGES AND 1942 01:02:37,186 --> 01:02:38,521 EMAILS AND REACHED OUT TO OUR 1943 01:02:38,521 --> 01:02:40,089 OFFICE EARLIER TODAY AROUND THIS 1944 01:02:40,089 --> 01:02:42,191 AMENDMENT CONCEPT THAT I'M 1945 01:02:42,191 --> 01:02:43,426 BRINGING FORWARD. IT'S REALLY 1946 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:44,694 IMPORTANT TO ME AS A SPONSOR OF 1947 01:02:44,694 --> 01:02:46,796 THIS BILL, TO BOTH HAVE 1948 01:02:46,796 --> 01:02:48,297 TRANSPARENCY AND COLLABORATION, 1949 01:02:48,297 --> 01:02:49,932 BECAUSE THIS WORK COULDN'T BE 1950 01:02:49,932 --> 01:02:50,433 MORE IMPORTANT OR MORE 1951 01:02:50,433 --> 01:02:52,101 MEANINGFUL FOR SEATTLE FAMILIES. 1952 01:02:52,101 --> 01:02:53,669 SO I AM GOING TO ASK CENTRAL 1953 01:02:53,669 --> 01:02:55,404 STAFF TO BRIEF US ON THIS BILL 1954 01:02:55,404 --> 01:02:56,739 TODAY, BUT I AM GOING TO HOLD 1955 01:02:56,739 --> 01:02:58,241 THIS AND BRING THIS AMENDMENT 1956 01:02:58,241 --> 01:03:00,443 BACK TO FULL COUNCIL FOR A VOTE, 1957 01:03:00,443 --> 01:03:02,211 BECAUSE I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE 1958 01:03:02,211 --> 01:03:02,845 WE HAVE THAT DEEP ENGAGEMENT AND 1959 01:03:02,845 --> 01:03:04,714 THAT CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THIS 1960 01:03:04,714 --> 01:03:07,283 AMENDMENT MEANS. AND MY GOAL 1961 01:03:07,283 --> 01:03:08,417 HERE REALLY IS TO ENSURE THAT WE 1962 01:03:08,417 --> 01:03:10,353 HAVE THAT WHEN WE GET INTO 1963 01:03:10,353 --> 01:03:11,921 IMPLEMENTATION, BECAUSE A GOOD 1964 01:03:11,921 --> 01:03:13,089 BILL, WE SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY HOW 1965 01:03:13,089 --> 01:03:14,557 IT'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED. 1966 01:03:14,557 --> 01:03:15,758 WE SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S 1967 01:03:15,758 --> 01:03:19,295 GOING TO BE COVERED, AND THAT 1968 01:03:19,295 --> 01:03:19,795 PREDICTABILITY AND THAT 1969 01:03:19,795 --> 01:03:20,997 TRANSPARENCY, FROM MY 1970 01:03:20,997 --> 01:03:22,932 PERSPECTIVE, IS KEY TO MAKING 1971 01:03:22,932 --> 01:03:24,066 REALLY GOOD POLICY. IN ADDITION 1972 01:03:24,066 --> 01:03:26,469 TO MAKING SURE WE'RE CENTERING 1973 01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:27,103 THE FAMILIES LIKE MY FRIENDS. SO 1974 01:03:27,103 --> 01:03:28,704 I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT 1975 01:03:28,704 --> 01:03:29,972 I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS 1976 01:03:29,972 --> 01:03:31,941 BILL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 1977 01:03:31,941 --> 01:03:32,975 DISCUSSION TODAY. AND I'LL HAND 1978 01:03:32,975 --> 01:03:34,076 IT OVER TO CENTRAL STAFF TO 1979 01:03:34,076 --> 01:03:37,213 BRIEF THE AMENDMENT. 1980 01:03:37,213 --> 01:03:39,248 -- THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. TAMASO 1981 01:03:39,248 --> 01:03:40,349 JOHNSON COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF, 1982 01:03:40,349 --> 01:03:44,787 FOR THE RECORD AMENDMENT ONE TO 1983 01:03:44,787 --> 01:03:45,388 THIS LEGISLATION SPONSORED BY 1984 01:03:45,388 --> 01:03:47,790 COUNCILMEMBER. FOSTER. REMOVING 1985 01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:49,125 INTANGIBLE HARM. THIS AMENDMENT 1986 01:03:49,125 --> 01:03:50,493 AMENDS THE DEFINITION OF 1987 01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:51,594 AGGRIEVED PARTY, WHICH IS A TERM 1988 01:03:51,594 --> 01:03:54,096 INCLUDED IN THE BILL TO REMOVE 1989 01:03:54,096 --> 01:03:55,998 THE WORDS OR INTANGIBLE FROM 1990 01:03:55,998 --> 01:03:57,800 THAT DEFINITION. THIS CHANGE 1991 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,702 WOULD LIMIT THE POTENTIAL 1992 01:03:59,702 --> 01:04:00,970 DAMAGES AVAILABLE TO PERSONS WHO 1993 01:04:00,970 --> 01:04:03,005 FILE LAWSUITS UNDER THE PRIVATE 1994 01:04:03,005 --> 01:04:05,641 RIGHT OF ACTION IN THE BILL, AND 1995 01:04:05,641 --> 01:04:07,844 IT WOULD LIMIT THE DAMAGE 1996 01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:09,946 AMOUNTS TO INJURIES BASED ON 1997 01:04:09,946 --> 01:04:12,215 TANGIBLE HARMS. THE CURRENT BILL 1998 01:04:12,215 --> 01:04:14,717 LANGUAGE REQUIRES THAT A PERSON 1999 01:04:14,717 --> 01:04:16,052 ALLEGE AN INJURY UNDER THE 2000 01:04:16,052 --> 01:04:17,954 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION, BUT 2001 01:04:17,954 --> 01:04:20,022 CONTEMPLATES AWARD OF DAMAGES 2002 01:04:20,022 --> 01:04:20,790 BASED ON BOTH TANGIBLE OR 2003 01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:22,858 INTANGIBLE HARM SUFFERED BY THE 2004 01:04:22,858 --> 01:04:25,261 QUOTE, UNQUOTE AGGRIEVED PARTY. 2005 01:04:25,261 --> 01:04:27,263 THIS TERM AGGRIEVED PARTY IS 2006 01:04:27,263 --> 01:04:28,798 ALSO USED IN THE OTHER 2007 01:04:28,798 --> 01:04:30,466 ENFORCEMENT SECTION OF THE BILL 2008 01:04:30,466 --> 01:04:33,336 THAT RELATES TO THE CITY 2009 01:04:33,336 --> 01:04:35,838 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND IT WOULD 2010 01:04:35,838 --> 01:04:38,241 REMOVE. SIMILARLY, THE CHANGING 2011 01:04:38,241 --> 01:04:40,042 THE DEFINITION OF AGGRIEVED 2012 01:04:40,042 --> 01:04:42,511 PARTY TO REMOVE INTANGIBLE HARM 2013 01:04:42,511 --> 01:04:44,981 WOULD ALSO AFFECT THE DAMAGES 2014 01:04:44,981 --> 01:04:47,884 AVAILABLE UNDER ENFORCEMENT 2015 01:04:47,884 --> 01:04:51,887 ACTIONS UNDERTAKEN BY THE CITY 2016 01:04:51,887 --> 01:04:52,154 ATTORNEY. 2017 01:04:52,154 --> 01:04:53,456 -- COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. YOU'RE 2018 01:04:53,456 --> 01:04:53,756 RECOGNIZED. 2019 01:04:53,756 --> 01:04:54,924 -- THANK YOU FOR THAT. I 2020 01:04:54,924 --> 01:04:57,827 APPRECIATE THAT WALK THROUGH. 2021 01:04:57,827 --> 01:04:59,862 TAMASO ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK 2022 01:04:59,862 --> 01:05:02,498 YOU TO SPEAK TO WHEN IT COMES TO 2023 01:05:02,498 --> 01:05:04,800 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TANGIBLE 2024 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:05,468 AND INTANGIBLE IS AS WE. AND 2025 01:05:05,468 --> 01:05:07,003 AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS 2026 01:05:07,003 --> 01:05:07,837 TODAY, BUT I THINK IT'S 2027 01:05:07,837 --> 01:05:10,239 IMPORTANT TO GET THE CLARITY 2028 01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:11,774 INTO THIS DISCUSSION IS THE SORT 2029 01:05:11,774 --> 01:05:14,277 OF MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2030 01:05:14,277 --> 01:05:15,745 THE TWO. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A 2031 01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:16,479 TWO LETTER DIFFERENCE. BUT IF 2032 01:05:16,479 --> 01:05:19,181 YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE SORT OF 2033 01:05:19,181 --> 01:05:19,815 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APPLICATION, 2034 01:05:19,815 --> 01:05:21,450 THERE. 2035 01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:23,853 -- YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. 2036 01:05:23,853 --> 01:05:26,155 GENERALLY SPEAKING, TANGIBLE 2037 01:05:26,155 --> 01:05:29,091 HARMS ARE ARE MOST FREQUENTLY 2038 01:05:29,091 --> 01:05:31,160 ECONOMIC HARMS. THEY WOULD 2039 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,561 LIKELY BE IN THIS CONTEXT, 2040 01:05:32,561 --> 01:05:35,531 THEY'RE OBSERVABLE, VERIFIABLE 2041 01:05:35,531 --> 01:05:39,068 SORT OF DEFINABLE ON A, YOU 2042 01:05:39,068 --> 01:05:43,506 KNOW, A MORE GRANULAR LEVEL, 2043 01:05:43,506 --> 01:05:44,974 INTANGIBLE HARMS, GENERALLY 2044 01:05:44,974 --> 01:05:47,443 SPEAKING, ARE PSYCHOLOGICAL 2045 01:05:47,443 --> 01:05:50,246 HARMS. HARMS THAT CAN'T BE 2046 01:05:50,246 --> 01:05:54,216 QUANTIFIED QUITE AS EASILY, NOT 2047 01:05:54,216 --> 01:05:56,352 DIRECTLY OBSERVABLE. SO IT'S, 2048 01:05:56,352 --> 01:05:58,821 IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT 2049 01:05:58,821 --> 01:06:01,123 NECESSARILY EASY TO PREDICT 2050 01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:02,792 DEFINITIVELY WHAT WOULD BE 2051 01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:05,094 ALLEGED AS INTANGIBLE HARM UNDER 2052 01:06:05,094 --> 01:06:05,761 THIS STATUTE. WE DON'T THIS IS 2053 01:06:05,761 --> 01:06:07,163 THIS WOULD BE NEW STATUTE. BUT 2054 01:06:07,163 --> 01:06:09,732 GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS I SAID, 2055 01:06:09,732 --> 01:06:11,400 INTANGIBLE HARMS IN THE CONTEXT 2056 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,668 OF CIVIL LAWSUITS, GENERALLY 2057 01:06:12,668 --> 01:06:14,870 SPEAKING, CAN INVOLVE EMOTIONAL 2058 01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:17,840 DAMAGES, PAIN AND SUFFERING. 2059 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,075 SOME STATUTES, YOU KNOW, 2060 01:06:19,075 --> 01:06:22,745 INTANGIBLE HARMS, CAN CAN 2061 01:06:22,745 --> 01:06:23,346 ENCOMPASS PRIVACY VIOLATIONS, 2062 01:06:23,346 --> 01:06:24,280 REPUTATIONAL HARM. SO THOSE 2063 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,849 SORTS OF THINGS THAT AREN'T 2064 01:06:26,849 --> 01:06:27,383 QUANTIFIABLE OR ECONOMIC. 2065 01:06:27,383 --> 01:06:29,852 -- THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND BY 2066 01:06:29,852 --> 01:06:31,187 CHANGING THE LANGUAGE FROM 2067 01:06:31,187 --> 01:06:33,089 INTANGIBLE TO CLARIFYING, WE'RE 2068 01:06:33,089 --> 01:06:34,190 TALKING ABOUT TANGIBLE HARM THAT 2069 01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:37,126 STILL PROTECTS THE RIGHT FOR 2070 01:06:37,126 --> 01:06:38,527 SOMEBODY TO TO PURSUE THEIR 2071 01:06:38,527 --> 01:06:41,163 GRIEVANCE FOR ECONOMIC HARM 2072 01:06:41,163 --> 01:06:42,932 RECEIVED AS A RESULT OF ANY 2073 01:06:42,932 --> 01:06:43,933 VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY. IS 2074 01:06:43,933 --> 01:06:45,334 THAT CORRECT? 2075 01:06:45,334 --> 01:06:48,003 -- YEAH, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. 2076 01:06:48,003 --> 01:06:49,605 AN ECONOMIC HARM WOULD WOULD BE 2077 01:06:49,605 --> 01:06:52,541 LIKELY TO BE CONSIDERED A 2078 01:06:52,541 --> 01:06:55,010 TANGIBLE HARM. I WILL ALSO SAY 2079 01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:58,147 THAT THE THE WAY THAT THIS 2080 01:06:58,147 --> 01:07:01,016 AMENDMENT CHANGES THE BILL, IT 2081 01:07:01,016 --> 01:07:02,018 CHANGES THE THIS DEFINITION OF 2082 01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:03,919 THIS VERY SPECIFIC, DEFINED TERM 2083 01:07:03,919 --> 01:07:06,155 AGGRIEVED PARTY, THE PLACE IN 2084 01:07:06,155 --> 01:07:07,757 THE. THE BILL WHERE AGGRIEVED 2085 01:07:07,757 --> 01:07:11,360 PARTY IS USED IS IN A SECTION OF 2086 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,195 BOTH THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION 2087 01:07:13,195 --> 01:07:15,931 AND THE CIVIL ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 2088 01:07:15,931 --> 01:07:19,034 ENFORCEMENT THAT THAT THAT TERM 2089 01:07:19,034 --> 01:07:23,205 AGGRIEVED PARTY DOESN'T SET, 2090 01:07:23,205 --> 01:07:25,741 DOESN'T SET AT THE FRONT END. 2091 01:07:25,741 --> 01:07:28,144 THE SCOPE OF THE PERSONS THAT 2092 01:07:28,144 --> 01:07:29,145 THE TYPES OF INJURIES OR THE 2093 01:07:29,145 --> 01:07:31,480 TYPE OF PERSONS THAT COULD 2094 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,381 PURSUE A CLAIM UNDER THE PRIVATE 2095 01:07:32,381 --> 01:07:35,451 RIGHT OF ACTION, SPECIFICALLY 2096 01:07:35,451 --> 01:07:37,386 THE THE TERM THAT'S USED TO 2097 01:07:37,386 --> 01:07:38,287 DESCRIBE THE TYPE OF, OF PEOPLE 2098 01:07:38,287 --> 01:07:40,890 THAT CAN FILE A CLAIM IS SOMEONE 2099 01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:43,726 THAT SUFFERS AN INJURY WHERE 2100 01:07:43,726 --> 01:07:44,860 AGGRIEVED PARTY IS USED. AND SO 2101 01:07:44,860 --> 01:07:48,731 IF YOU IF YOUR AMENDMENT WAS 2102 01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:51,734 ADOPTED, THE PLACE WHERE 2103 01:07:51,734 --> 01:07:54,203 INTANGIBLE HARM WOULD BE REMOVED 2104 01:07:54,203 --> 01:07:55,771 IS IN THE SECTION LATER ON THAT 2105 01:07:55,771 --> 01:07:57,473 TALKS ABOUT THE TYPES OF DAMAGES 2106 01:07:57,473 --> 01:08:01,677 AVAILABLE. SO THE. THE ORDINANCE 2107 01:08:01,677 --> 01:08:04,213 DESCRIBES CIVIL PENALTY AMOUNTS 2108 01:08:04,213 --> 01:08:07,349 OF UP TO $3,000 PER AGGRIEVED 2109 01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:09,585 PARTY AND UP TO $10,000 PER 2110 01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:12,088 SUBSEQUENT SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS 2111 01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:13,355 PER AGGRIEVED PARTY. SO THE 2112 01:08:13,355 --> 01:08:15,624 AGGRIEVED PARTY IS SORT OF THE 2113 01:08:15,624 --> 01:08:18,094 MULTIPLIER THAT WOULD BE APPLIED 2114 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:22,498 TO THOSE UP TO THREE AND UP TO 2115 01:08:22,498 --> 01:08:23,032 $10,000 RESPECTIVE DAMAGE 2116 01:08:23,032 --> 01:08:25,935 AMOUNTS. IF THIS THE SUIT WAS 2117 01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:27,036 SUCCESSFUL AND HARM WAS FOUND. 2118 01:08:27,036 --> 01:08:28,571 SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT WONKY, BUT 2119 01:08:28,571 --> 01:08:30,039 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY 2120 01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:31,106 THAT IT WOULD LIMIT THE DAMAGES, 2121 01:08:31,106 --> 01:08:33,742 BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE TYPES OF 2122 01:08:33,742 --> 01:08:35,177 INJURIES THAT COULD FORM THE 2123 01:08:35,177 --> 01:08:36,178 BASIS FOR A PRIVATE RIGHT OF 2124 01:08:36,178 --> 01:08:37,680 ACTION SUIT. 2125 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,181 -- THANK YOU FOR THAT 2126 01:08:39,181 --> 01:08:41,350 CLARIFICATION. I REALLY 2127 01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:41,984 APPRECIATE THAT. AND COLLEAGUES. 2128 01:08:41,984 --> 01:08:43,886 HAPPY TO. WELL, CENTRAL STAFF IS 2129 01:08:43,886 --> 01:08:49,692 HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS 2130 01:08:49,692 --> 01:08:50,326 -- COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS ON 2131 01:08:50,326 --> 01:08:56,499 THIS AMENDMENT? SEEING AND 2132 01:08:56,499 --> 01:08:59,268 HEARING NONE. I AM GOING TO MOVE 2133 01:08:59,268 --> 01:09:00,669 US ALONG AND THANK COUNCILMEMBER 2134 01:09:00,669 --> 01:09:01,370 FOSTER FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT. DO 2135 01:09:01,370 --> 01:09:02,271 YOU HAVE FINAL WORD? I'LL PASS 2136 01:09:02,271 --> 01:09:03,405 IT TO YOU FOR FINAL WORD. 2137 01:09:03,405 --> 01:09:04,607 -- THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, 2138 01:09:04,607 --> 01:09:06,008 CHAIR RINCK. I REALLY APPRECIATE 2139 01:09:06,008 --> 01:09:07,243 THAT. AND AS ALWAYS, CENTRAL 2140 01:09:07,243 --> 01:09:08,944 STAFF, APPRECIATE YOUR 2141 01:09:08,944 --> 01:09:09,545 LEADERSHIP AND THE CLARITY. I 2142 01:09:09,545 --> 01:09:12,114 HOPE SOME OF WHAT TAMASO SHARED 2143 01:09:12,114 --> 01:09:13,449 TODAY HELPS CLARIFY THE INTENT 2144 01:09:13,449 --> 01:09:14,550 AND THE IMPACT OF THIS 2145 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:15,551 AMENDMENT. I JUST WANT TO 2146 01:09:15,551 --> 01:09:16,919 RESTATE THAT. MY INTENT IS TO 2147 01:09:16,919 --> 01:09:17,853 BRING THIS BACK TO FULL COUNCIL, 2148 01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:19,555 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING ON 2149 01:09:19,555 --> 01:09:23,526 IT THEN. THANK YOU 2150 01:09:23,526 --> 01:09:24,093 -- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 2151 01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:27,062 FOSTER APPRECIATE THAT 2152 01:09:27,062 --> 01:09:28,597 THOUGHTFULNESS. AND WITH THAT, I 2153 01:09:28,597 --> 01:09:30,633 WILL MOVE US ON TO AMENDMENT 2154 01:09:30,633 --> 01:09:32,801 TWO. SO I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL 2155 01:09:32,801 --> 01:09:35,037 BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, SIX 2156 01:09:35,037 --> 01:09:36,071 SEVEN AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT 2157 01:09:36,071 --> 01:09:37,606 TWO. IS THERE A SECOND? 2158 01:09:37,606 --> 01:09:39,208 -- SECOND. 2159 01:09:39,208 --> 01:09:40,709 -- THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 2160 01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:41,710 IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED. AS 2161 01:09:41,710 --> 01:09:43,012 SPONSOR. I WILL FIRST ADDRESS IT 2162 01:09:43,012 --> 01:09:44,380 AND THEN TOSS IT OVER TO CENTRAL 2163 01:09:44,380 --> 01:09:46,882 STAFF. SO I INTRODUCED THIS 2164 01:09:46,882 --> 01:09:47,917 AMENDMENT TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE 2165 01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:49,552 LANGUAGE IN THE ORIGINAL BILL 2166 01:09:49,552 --> 01:09:51,620 AROUND PROHIBITING USE OF 2167 01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:52,121 ALGORITHMIC-BASED PRICE 2168 01:09:52,121 --> 01:09:54,623 DISCRIMINATION AND PROGRAMING 2169 01:09:54,623 --> 01:09:55,558 ELECTRONIC SHELF LABELS. THIS 2170 01:09:55,558 --> 01:09:56,892 REWORDING OF THIS SECTION 2171 01:09:56,892 --> 01:09:59,228 CLARIFIES THAT THIS LAW ONLY 2172 01:09:59,228 --> 01:09:59,862 REGULATES THE ELECTRONIC SHELF 2173 01:09:59,862 --> 01:10:01,597 LABELS IN AREAS THAT OF THE 2174 01:10:01,597 --> 01:10:03,599 COVERED STORES THAT ARE COVERED 2175 01:10:03,599 --> 01:10:04,967 BY THE LAW. THE PREVIOUS WORDING 2176 01:10:04,967 --> 01:10:06,068 WAS AMBIGUOUS. WE WANTED TO MAKE 2177 01:10:06,068 --> 01:10:08,137 IT SUPER CLEAR THAT WE'RE 2178 01:10:08,137 --> 01:10:10,105 TALKING ABOUT PRICE LABELS ON 2179 01:10:10,105 --> 01:10:11,574 GROCERIES IN THE MEGASTORE, AND 2180 01:10:11,574 --> 01:10:14,109 NOT NECESSARILY THE 2181 01:10:14,109 --> 01:10:15,778 REFRIGERATORS OR TVS. SO WITH 2182 01:10:15,778 --> 01:10:16,946 THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO 2183 01:10:16,946 --> 01:10:19,281 CENTRAL STAFF FOR BRIEFING THE 2184 01:10:19,281 --> 01:10:21,450 AMENDMENT. 2185 01:10:21,450 --> 01:10:22,851 -- SURE. AMENDMENT TWO, 2186 01:10:22,851 --> 01:10:23,419 SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER 2187 01:10:23,419 --> 01:10:25,487 RINCK. I WOULD CLARIFY THAT THE 2188 01:10:25,487 --> 01:10:28,357 PROHIBITION ON THE USE OF AN 2189 01:10:28,357 --> 01:10:28,958 ELECTRONIC SHELF LABEL SYSTEM 2190 01:10:28,958 --> 01:10:29,992 FOR A GOOD. THAT HAS BEEN 2191 01:10:29,992 --> 01:10:33,062 MODIFIED USING ALGORITHMIC-BASED 2192 01:10:33,062 --> 01:10:34,196 PRICE DISCRIMINATION WOULD ONLY 2193 01:10:34,196 --> 01:10:36,031 APPLY TO GOODS WHERE A RETAILER 2194 01:10:36,031 --> 01:10:39,068 IS PROHIBITED FROM USING 2195 01:10:39,068 --> 01:10:39,568 ALGORITHMIC-BASED PRICE 2196 01:10:39,568 --> 01:10:40,869 DISCRIMINATION TO SET PRICES, 2197 01:10:40,869 --> 01:10:45,608 RATHER THAN ALL GOODS FROM THE 2198 01:10:45,608 --> 01:10:50,246 RETAILER. 2199 01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:50,846 -- COLLEAGUES. ANY ADDITIONAL 2200 01:10:50,846 --> 01:10:53,015 QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS ON 2201 01:10:53,015 --> 01:10:56,819 THIS AMENDMENT I BELIEVE THIS IS 2202 01:10:56,819 --> 01:10:57,353 PARTICULARLY TECHNICAL IN 2203 01:10:57,353 --> 01:10:58,454 NATURE. TO MAKE SURE WE'RE 2204 01:10:58,454 --> 01:10:59,288 ALIGNING THE INTENT OF WHAT 2205 01:10:59,288 --> 01:11:02,358 WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS 2206 01:11:02,358 --> 01:11:02,925 LEGISLATION AND ADDRESSING 2207 01:11:02,925 --> 01:11:04,994 GROCERIES. IS THAT A HAND? NO, 2208 01:11:04,994 --> 01:11:07,329 NO. ALL RIGHT. SEEING AND 2209 01:11:07,329 --> 01:11:09,765 HEARING. NO ADDITIONAL 2210 01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:11,133 QUESTIONS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE 2211 01:11:11,133 --> 01:11:12,668 CALL THE ROLL ON ADOPTION OF 2212 01:11:12,668 --> 01:11:15,671 AMENDMENT TWO? 2213 01:11:15,671 --> 01:11:16,138 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2214 01:11:16,138 --> 01:11:17,773 -- YES 2215 01:11:17,773 --> 01:11:18,240 -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 2216 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,411 HOLLINGSWORTH. 2217 01:11:22,411 --> 01:11:22,645 -- AYE. 2218 01:11:22,645 --> 01:11:23,145 -- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 2219 01:11:23,145 --> 01:11:26,649 -- AYE. 2220 01:11:26,649 --> 01:11:27,016 -- CHAIR RINCK. 2221 01:11:27,016 --> 01:11:27,750 -- YES, CHAIR. 2222 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:29,051 -- THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS IN 2223 01:11:29,051 --> 01:11:31,387 FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. 2224 01:11:31,387 --> 01:11:31,720 -- THANK YOU. 2225 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:32,454 -- THE MOTION CARRIES. AN 2226 01:11:32,454 --> 01:11:34,256 AMENDMENT TO IS ADOPTED. THANK 2227 01:11:34,256 --> 01:11:35,391 YOU. COLLEAGUES. WITH THAT, WE 2228 01:11:35,391 --> 01:11:36,959 WILL NOW CONSIDER AMENDMENT 2229 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:38,794 THREE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA YOU 2230 01:11:38,794 --> 01:11:40,129 ARE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO MOVE 2231 01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:42,264 YOUR AMENDMENT AS SPONSOR. 2232 01:11:42,264 --> 01:11:45,668 -- THANK YOU. CHAIR. I MOVE TO 2233 01:11:45,668 --> 01:11:48,037 AMEND COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, 2234 01:11:48,037 --> 01:11:50,372 ONE, 267 AS SPECIFICALLY 2235 01:11:50,372 --> 01:11:56,111 PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT THREE. 2236 01:11:56,111 --> 01:11:56,412 -- SECOND. 2237 01:11:56,412 --> 01:11:58,280 -- THERE WE ARE. IT IS MOVED AND 2238 01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,848 SECONDED TO AMEND THE BILL AS 2239 01:11:59,848 --> 01:12:01,850 PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT THREE. 2240 01:12:01,850 --> 01:12:02,418 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA YOU ARE 2241 01:12:02,418 --> 01:12:04,019 RECOGNIZED TO ADDRESS YOUR 2242 01:12:04,019 --> 01:12:07,189 AMENDMENT. 2243 01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:09,958 -- THANK YOU. CHAIR AND SO, 2244 01:12:09,958 --> 01:12:11,860 COLLEAGUES, MEMBERS OF THE 2245 01:12:11,860 --> 01:12:14,963 PUBLIC, THIS AMENDMENT DIRECTLY 2246 01:12:14,963 --> 01:12:15,464 ADDRESSES SOME SPECIFIC 2247 01:12:15,464 --> 01:12:16,565 COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, 2248 01:12:16,565 --> 01:12:17,199 PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE 2249 01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:22,371 GROCERY, GROCERY, RETAIL SIDE. 2250 01:12:22,371 --> 01:12:25,808 WHEN IT COMES TO MORE CLARITY 2251 01:12:25,808 --> 01:12:27,943 AND CLEARER CERTAINTY REGARDING 2252 01:12:27,943 --> 01:12:28,544 WHICH SPECIFIC PRACTICES THE 2253 01:12:28,544 --> 01:12:29,611 ORDINANCE PERMITS AND DOESN'T, 2254 01:12:29,611 --> 01:12:32,448 IT MAKES EXPLICIT THAT WHEN A 2255 01:12:32,448 --> 01:12:34,583 RETAILER MEETS EVERY CONDITION 2256 01:12:34,583 --> 01:12:37,319 OF AN EXCLUSION, THAT SPECIFIC 2257 01:12:37,319 --> 01:12:38,787 CONDUCT IS NOT A VIOLATION OF 2258 01:12:38,787 --> 01:12:41,390 THE PRICING PROHIBITION. THIS 2259 01:12:41,390 --> 01:12:43,959 AMENDMENT ALSO PROVIDES VITAL 2260 01:12:43,959 --> 01:12:47,396 CLARITY TO INDUSTRY PARTNERS 2261 01:12:47,396 --> 01:12:50,399 THAT LEGITIMATE DELIVERY COSTS 2262 01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:50,999 DIFFERENCES, CONVENTIONAL 2263 01:12:50,999 --> 01:12:53,435 COUPONS, BROADLY AVAILABLE 2264 01:12:53,435 --> 01:12:55,971 DISCOUNTS AND QUALIFYING LOYALTY 2265 01:12:55,971 --> 01:12:57,706 PROMOTIONS REMAIN PROTECTED. AND 2266 01:12:57,706 --> 01:13:00,342 IMPORTANTLY, FINALLY, THIS 2267 01:13:00,342 --> 01:13:00,909 AMENDMENT PRESERVES ALL KEY 2268 01:13:00,909 --> 01:13:03,779 ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS OF THE 2269 01:13:03,779 --> 01:13:05,647 ORDINANCE, INCLUDING DISCLOSURE, 2270 01:13:05,647 --> 01:13:08,584 RULE MAKING, RECORD KEEPING 2271 01:13:08,584 --> 01:13:10,085 PRIVATE ENFORCEMENT. THE CITY 2272 01:13:10,085 --> 01:13:13,522 ATTORNEY ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA. 2273 01:13:13,522 --> 01:13:15,691 SO MORE OF A CLARIFICATION 2274 01:13:15,691 --> 01:13:17,626 TWEAK, BUT A MISSION CRITICAL 2275 01:13:17,626 --> 01:13:19,528 ONE AS WELL. AND ASK FOR YOUR 2276 01:13:19,528 --> 01:13:22,564 SUPPORT. THANK YOU. 2277 01:13:22,564 --> 01:13:24,733 -- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 2278 01:13:24,733 --> 01:13:25,601 SAKA. I'LL TURN IT TO CENTRAL 2279 01:13:25,601 --> 01:13:28,704 STAFF TO BRIEF THE AMENDMENT. 2280 01:13:28,704 --> 01:13:30,038 -- THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. TAMASO 2281 01:13:30,038 --> 01:13:35,110 JOHNSON. COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 2282 01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:35,677 I THINK COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 2283 01:13:35,677 --> 01:13:37,679 SUMMED IT UP. I'LL JUST SAY TO 2284 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:41,049 REITERATE THE AMENDMENT 2285 01:13:41,049 --> 01:13:43,452 ESSENTIALLY PROVIDES ADDITIONAL 2286 01:13:43,452 --> 01:13:44,853 ASSURANCE OF THE LANGUAGE THAT 2287 01:13:44,853 --> 01:13:47,189 ALREADY EXISTS IN THE BILL WITH 2288 01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:47,790 REGARD TO THE EXCEPTIONS THAT 2289 01:13:47,790 --> 01:13:49,391 ARE CONTAINED IN THE DEFINITION 2290 01:13:49,391 --> 01:13:52,194 TO ALGORITHMIC-BASED PRICE 2291 01:13:52,194 --> 01:13:53,262 DISCRIMINATION, AND TO STATE 2292 01:13:53,262 --> 01:13:56,732 THAT, YOU KNOW, IF CONDUCT THAT 2293 01:13:56,732 --> 01:13:59,635 MEETS ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OF 2294 01:13:59,635 --> 01:14:01,537 SUCH AN EXCEPTION CATEGORICALLY 2295 01:14:01,537 --> 01:14:04,406 DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION 2296 01:14:04,406 --> 01:14:06,975 OF THE PROHIBITIONS IN SEVEN 2297 01:14:06,975 --> 01:14:08,010 PROPOSED 7.35.020, WHICH IS THE 2298 01:14:08,010 --> 01:14:11,547 BILL'S CORE PROHIBITION ON 2299 01:14:11,547 --> 01:14:12,047 ALGORITHMIC-BASED PRICE 2300 01:14:12,047 --> 01:14:13,949 DISCRIMINATION, AND AS HE AS 2301 01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:16,251 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA SAID, IT DOES 2302 01:14:16,251 --> 01:14:19,188 EXPLICITLY NOTE THAT THAT 2303 01:14:19,188 --> 01:14:20,622 EXCEPTION STILL PRESERVES THE 2304 01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:21,623 ABILITY FOR THE REST OF THE 2305 01:14:21,623 --> 01:14:22,624 ORDINANCE TO TAKE EFFECT 2306 01:14:22,624 --> 01:14:23,392 REGARDING RECORD KEEPING, ET 2307 01:14:23,392 --> 01:14:27,696 CETERA 2308 01:14:27,696 --> 01:14:30,232 -- THANK YOU FOR THAT OVERVIEW. 2309 01:14:30,232 --> 01:14:30,866 TAMASO COLLEAGUES, QUESTIONS ON 2310 01:14:30,866 --> 01:14:39,441 THIS AMENDMENT. RIGHT. I WILL BE 2311 01:14:39,441 --> 01:14:41,410 VOTING ON THIS HEARING. JUST THE 2312 01:14:41,410 --> 01:14:43,579 OVERVIEW ON THIS AND SEEING WHAT 2313 01:14:43,579 --> 01:14:44,580 I VIEW AS SOME MINIMAL IMPACT, 2314 01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:46,715 BUT SOME IMPORTANT 2315 01:14:46,715 --> 01:14:47,716 CLARIFICATIONS. I WILL NOTE THAT 2316 01:14:47,716 --> 01:14:49,151 I'LL BE RESPECTFULLY ABSTAINING 2317 01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:49,785 FROM THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT 2318 01:14:49,785 --> 01:14:52,855 TODAY. I UNDERSTAND IT WAS 2319 01:14:52,855 --> 01:14:55,490 CIRCULATED YESTERDAY AND SIMPLY 2320 01:14:55,490 --> 01:14:56,158 JUST WITH THE OVERVIEW AND SOME 2321 01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:57,793 OF THE TIMING, I WILL JUST BE 2322 01:14:57,793 --> 01:15:01,530 ABSTAINING ON THIS ONE. BUT I 2323 01:15:01,530 --> 01:15:04,766 THINK, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, FOR 2324 01:15:04,766 --> 01:15:07,169 BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND 2325 01:15:07,169 --> 01:15:09,271 HEARING OR SEEING NO ADDITIONAL 2326 01:15:09,271 --> 01:15:10,772 COMMENTS, I AM GOING TO MOVE US 2327 01:15:10,772 --> 01:15:12,574 TO A VOTE. SO WILL THE CLERK 2328 01:15:12,574 --> 01:15:13,475 PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE 2329 01:15:13,475 --> 01:15:16,111 ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT THREE. 2330 01:15:16,111 --> 01:15:18,547 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2331 01:15:18,547 --> 01:15:18,780 -- YES. 2332 01:15:18,780 --> 01:15:21,083 -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 2333 01:15:21,083 --> 01:15:21,450 HOLLINGSWORTH. 2334 01:15:21,450 --> 01:15:23,285 -- AYE. 2335 01:15:23,285 --> 01:15:23,785 -- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 2336 01:15:23,785 --> 01:15:24,019 -- AYE. 2337 01:15:24,019 --> 01:15:24,586 -- CHAIR. THERE ARE THREE 2338 01:15:24,586 --> 01:15:25,821 MEMBERS IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED 2339 01:15:25,821 --> 01:15:29,191 AND ONE ABSTENTION. 2340 01:15:29,191 --> 01:15:31,193 -- THANK YOU. THE AMENDMENT IS 2341 01:15:31,193 --> 01:15:31,760 THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE 2342 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,296 AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. AND WITH 2343 01:15:34,296 --> 01:15:36,765 THAT, COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE 2344 01:15:36,765 --> 01:15:39,401 REACHED THE WE'VE GONE THROUGH 2345 01:15:39,401 --> 01:15:40,736 ALL OF OUR AMENDMENTS. SO WE 2346 01:15:40,736 --> 01:15:42,804 WILL NOW BE SPEAKING ON THE 2347 01:15:42,804 --> 01:15:45,407 UNDERLYING BILL. WE HAVE AN 2348 01:15:45,407 --> 01:15:47,509 AMENDMENT BILL BEFORE US BEFORE 2349 01:15:47,509 --> 01:15:48,944 WE TAKE A FINAL VOTE. ARE THERE 2350 01:15:48,944 --> 01:15:53,215 ANY FINAL COMMENTS? COUNCIL 2351 01:15:53,215 --> 01:15:53,749 PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH. 2352 01:15:53,749 --> 01:15:57,386 -- THANK YOU, COUNCIL. SORRY, 2353 01:15:57,386 --> 01:15:59,321 CHAIR. RINCK. COUNCIL CHAIR. 2354 01:15:59,321 --> 01:16:00,756 RINCK. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, 2355 01:16:00,756 --> 01:16:02,791 FOR BRINGING THIS. I'LL BE 2356 01:16:02,791 --> 01:16:04,826 SUPPORTING THIS TODAY AND AND 2357 01:16:04,826 --> 01:16:07,062 VERY HAPPY TO JUST FOR 2358 01:16:07,062 --> 01:16:07,563 TRANSPARENCY, I HAD TWO 2359 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:09,197 AMENDMENTS THAT ARE NOT PREPARED 2360 01:16:09,197 --> 01:16:12,200 IN TIME AND THAT ARE CURRENTLY 2361 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,269 LEGAL. THE FIRST ONE IS A LOSS 2362 01:16:14,269 --> 01:16:16,071 PREVENTION CLARIFICATION TO MAKE 2363 01:16:16,071 --> 01:16:17,506 SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT LANGUAGE 2364 01:16:17,506 --> 01:16:20,342 THERE. AND I'LL BE WORKING ON 2365 01:16:20,342 --> 01:16:22,678 THAT THIS WEEK AND CONNECTING 2366 01:16:22,678 --> 01:16:24,146 WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND UFC, W AND 2367 01:16:24,146 --> 01:16:25,080 ALL THE FOLKS I'M WORKING WITH, 2368 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,416 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AS WELL ON 2369 01:16:27,416 --> 01:16:30,319 THAT. AND THEN ALSO A GAS 2370 01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:31,320 LOYALTY CLARIFICATION AS WELL. 2371 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:32,487 THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I 2372 01:16:32,487 --> 01:16:33,989 THINK ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. 2373 01:16:33,989 --> 01:16:35,624 I'VE SAID THIS FROM THE 2374 01:16:35,624 --> 01:16:37,459 BEGINNING ABOUT GAS PRICES ARE 2375 01:16:37,459 --> 01:16:40,562 BETWEEN 5 TO $7 A GALLON IN IN 2376 01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:43,131 THE STATE AND IN THE CITY IS 2377 01:16:43,131 --> 01:16:44,032 INCREDIBLY HIGH. SO JUST WANT TO 2378 01:16:44,032 --> 01:16:47,603 MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE 2379 01:16:47,603 --> 01:16:48,070 CLARIFICATION ON GAS 2380 01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:50,539 PROTECTIONS. AND THEN THE LOSS 2381 01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:52,741 PREVENTION CLARIFICATION. 2382 01:16:52,741 --> 01:16:54,710 WASHINGTON LEADS THE NATION IN 2383 01:16:54,710 --> 01:16:55,344 RETAIL THEFT. IT'S NOT 2384 01:16:55,344 --> 01:16:56,979 SOMETHING THAT I'M HAPPY THAT 2385 01:16:56,979 --> 01:16:58,814 WE'RE LEADING IN. SO WHEN 2386 01:16:58,814 --> 01:17:01,617 STORES CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE A 2387 01:17:01,617 --> 01:17:03,418 LOT OF THE UNFORTUNATELY, SOME 2388 01:17:03,418 --> 01:17:05,253 OF THE LOSS PREVENTION AND THE 2389 01:17:05,253 --> 01:17:07,356 SHRINKAGE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 2390 01:17:07,356 --> 01:17:09,291 THAT'S CLARIFIED AS WELL WITH 2391 01:17:09,291 --> 01:17:10,592 THIS. BUT WE'LL BE VOTING YES 2392 01:17:10,592 --> 01:17:11,760 ON THIS TODAY AND LOOKING 2393 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,894 FORWARD TO BRINGING THOSE TO 2394 01:17:12,894 --> 01:17:15,197 FULL COUNCIL. SO THANK YOU. 2395 01:17:15,197 --> 01:17:17,199 -- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT 2396 01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:19,134 HOLLINGSWORTH, I WANT TO 2397 01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:19,735 RECOGNIZE THE CO-SPONSORS ON 2398 01:17:19,735 --> 01:17:21,003 THIS LEGISLATION AND INVITE THEM 2399 01:17:21,003 --> 01:17:22,371 TO PROVIDE FINAL REMARKS AS 2400 01:17:22,371 --> 01:17:26,041 WELL. SO, VICE CHAIR FOSTER, 2401 01:17:26,041 --> 01:17:26,508 RECOGNIZING YOU NEXT. 2402 01:17:26,508 --> 01:17:27,576 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR 2403 01:17:27,576 --> 01:17:29,411 RINCK AND I'LL BE BRIEF WITH MY 2404 01:17:29,411 --> 01:17:35,050 REMARKS PROTECTING FAMILIES IN 2405 01:17:35,050 --> 01:17:36,151 SEATTLE CONTINUES TO BE A TOP 2406 01:17:36,151 --> 01:17:37,786 PRIORITY TO ME. AND FOR ME, THE 2407 01:17:37,786 --> 01:17:39,488 WAY THAT I LOOK AT THIS, THIS 2408 01:17:39,488 --> 01:17:40,856 BILL IS ONE OF THE MOST 2409 01:17:40,856 --> 01:17:42,424 IMPORTANT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO 2410 01:17:42,424 --> 01:17:44,426 THAT. IT MEANS THAT FAMILIES 2411 01:17:44,426 --> 01:17:46,928 WILL HAVE MORE CLARITY, MORE 2412 01:17:46,928 --> 01:17:48,397 SURETY, MORE CONSISTENCY. I 2413 01:17:48,397 --> 01:17:50,532 THINK THAT SO MANY OF US HAVE 2414 01:17:50,532 --> 01:17:52,334 EXPERIENCED ALGORITHMIC PRICE 2415 01:17:52,334 --> 01:17:53,835 DISCRIMINATION AND MANY FORMS OF 2416 01:17:53,835 --> 01:17:55,137 OUR LIVES, WHETHER THAT AND 2417 01:17:55,137 --> 01:17:56,805 SURVEILLANCE PRICING, WHETHER 2418 01:17:56,805 --> 01:17:58,306 THAT IS GOING TO BUY A PLANE 2419 01:17:58,306 --> 01:18:01,009 TICKET, WHETHER THAT IS GOOGLING 2420 01:18:01,009 --> 01:18:02,477 SOMETHING, AND THEN SUDDENLY THE 2421 01:18:02,477 --> 01:18:04,079 PRICE CHANGES, OR WHETHER THAT 2422 01:18:04,079 --> 01:18:06,381 IS STANDING IN THE GROCERY STORE 2423 01:18:06,381 --> 01:18:09,017 AND LOOKING AT A BOX OF CHEERIOS 2424 01:18:09,017 --> 01:18:09,618 AND REALIZING THAT THE PERSON 2425 01:18:09,618 --> 01:18:11,386 NEXT TO YOU IS LOOKING AT A 2426 01:18:11,386 --> 01:18:13,722 DIFFERENT PRICE FOR THAT EXACT 2427 01:18:13,722 --> 01:18:15,090 SAME BOX OF CHEERIOS, AND THAT 2428 01:18:15,090 --> 01:18:16,525 JUST SHOULDN'T BE THE CASE. SO 2429 01:18:16,525 --> 01:18:17,959 I'M REALLY EXCITED TO VOTE ON 2430 01:18:17,959 --> 01:18:19,394 THIS BILL TODAY AND TO MAKE ONE 2431 01:18:19,394 --> 01:18:22,030 BIG STEP FORWARD IN ADDRESSING 2432 01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:24,599 THESE PRICE DISCRIMINATION 2433 01:18:24,599 --> 01:18:25,167 DISCREPANCIES AND IMPROVING 2434 01:18:25,167 --> 01:18:27,703 AFFORDABILITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 2435 01:18:27,703 --> 01:18:28,003 THANK YOU. 2436 01:18:28,003 --> 01:18:29,704 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2437 01:18:29,704 --> 01:18:33,108 AND NEXT, RECOGNIZING 2438 01:18:33,108 --> 01:18:33,542 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 2439 01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:35,277 -- THANK YOU, CHAIR. 2440 01:18:35,277 --> 01:18:38,447 -- I'LL HAVE SOME MORE FULSOME 2441 01:18:38,447 --> 01:18:40,215 COMMENTS AT AT FULL COUNCIL WHEN 2442 01:18:40,215 --> 01:18:42,784 THIS GOES THERE. BUT I JUST WANT 2443 01:18:42,784 --> 01:18:45,320 TO TO THANK YOU, CHAIR 2444 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,823 COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER FOR YOUR 2445 01:18:47,823 --> 01:18:49,091 PARTNERSHIP. AND, YOU KNOW, 2446 01:18:49,091 --> 01:18:49,958 GETTING US TO THIS POINT. I WANT 2447 01:18:49,958 --> 01:18:54,329 TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR HER, HER 2448 01:18:54,329 --> 01:18:54,930 PARTNERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP IN 2449 01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:58,400 THIS AND AND ALL THE THE WORK OF 2450 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,436 COMMUNITY. PARDON THE LATENCY 2451 01:19:01,436 --> 01:19:02,871 WAS WAS A LITTLE LATE TODAY 2452 01:19:02,871 --> 01:19:05,474 BECAUSE I WAS IN COMMUNITY AT A 2453 01:19:05,474 --> 01:19:07,242 EVENT IN WEST SEATTLE 2454 01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:09,010 CELEBRATING THE LOCAL. OUR LOCAL 2455 01:19:09,010 --> 01:19:11,546 YMCA HERE AT A CHARITY EVENT. 2456 01:19:11,546 --> 01:19:14,549 AND, AND MY WIFE IS ON THE EAST 2457 01:19:14,549 --> 01:19:17,719 COAST. SHE SHE JUMPED ON A PLANE 2458 01:19:17,719 --> 01:19:19,187 EARLIER THIS MORNING. SO THAT 2459 01:19:19,187 --> 01:19:20,589 MEANS I'M FLYING SOLO ON DADDY 2460 01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:22,157 DUTY. AND DEPENDING HOW LONG 2461 01:19:22,157 --> 01:19:23,825 THIS MEETING GOES, I'M GOING TO 2462 01:19:23,825 --> 01:19:25,994 BE TAKING THE MEETING FROM A 2463 01:19:25,994 --> 01:19:27,662 MOBILE MY MOBILE DEVICE AND IN. 2464 01:19:27,662 --> 01:19:29,064 YOU'LL SEE MINIVAN IN THE 2465 01:19:29,064 --> 01:19:30,098 BACKGROUND WHEN WE'RE SAFELY 2466 01:19:30,098 --> 01:19:33,068 PARKED. OF COURSE, I SAY ALL 2467 01:19:33,068 --> 01:19:35,704 THAT, LIKE ALL THE LOGISTICAL 2468 01:19:35,704 --> 01:19:37,639 DETAILS TO. BECAUSE IT'S IT'S 2469 01:19:37,639 --> 01:19:39,875 IMPORTANT AND, AND PARTICULARLY 2470 01:19:39,875 --> 01:19:43,712 GERMANE IN THIS CONTEXT, I'M A 2471 01:19:43,712 --> 01:19:46,248 WORKING PARENT. THIS, THIS BILL 2472 01:19:46,248 --> 01:19:48,717 RIGHT HERE DIRECTLY HELPS 2473 01:19:48,717 --> 01:19:50,418 SUPPORT AND EMPOWER WORKING 2474 01:19:50,418 --> 01:19:52,287 FAMILIES TO DO MORE, DO, DO MORE 2475 01:19:52,287 --> 01:19:54,689 WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR DOLLARS, 2476 01:19:54,689 --> 01:19:57,893 STRETCH THEIR DOLLARS FURTHER, 2477 01:19:57,893 --> 01:20:02,330 PROMOTE CONSUMERS AND IT ALSO 2478 01:20:02,330 --> 01:20:02,831 DOESN'T UNDULY STIFLE 2479 01:20:02,831 --> 01:20:04,533 INNOVATION, ALTHOUGH I'M MINDFUL 2480 01:20:04,533 --> 01:20:05,467 OF SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. AND I 2481 01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:06,268 THINK WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW 2482 01:20:06,268 --> 01:20:09,738 WITH THIS BILL, IT'S IN A GREAT 2483 01:20:09,738 --> 01:20:12,507 PLACE. BUT THIS BILL PROMOTES 2484 01:20:12,507 --> 01:20:14,910 WORKING FAMILIES ADVANCE 2485 01:20:14,910 --> 01:20:17,879 DIRECTLY, ADVANCES AFFORDABILITY 2486 01:20:17,879 --> 01:20:19,214 AND SERVES AFFORDABILITY NEEDS 2487 01:20:19,214 --> 01:20:21,950 AS WELL. SO I'M I'M EXCITED 2488 01:20:21,950 --> 01:20:24,986 ABOUT IT. AND LOOKING FORWARD TO 2489 01:20:24,986 --> 01:20:26,121 GETTING ACROSS THE LINE IN A 2490 01:20:26,121 --> 01:20:28,957 COUPLE WEEKS. AND APPRECIATE 2491 01:20:28,957 --> 01:20:30,692 EVERYONE FOR YOUR FOR YOUR 2492 01:20:30,692 --> 01:20:35,530 PARTNERSHIP IN THIS. THANK YOU. 2493 01:20:35,530 --> 01:20:37,966 -- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 2494 01:20:37,966 --> 01:20:39,701 REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE REMARKS. 2495 01:20:39,701 --> 01:20:41,369 I SAID MY BIG PIECE AT THE 2496 01:20:41,369 --> 01:20:42,470 BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING. SO I 2497 01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:44,406 WANT TO CLOSE WITH SOME 2498 01:20:44,406 --> 01:20:45,740 GRATITUDE BEFORE WE TAKE THIS 2499 01:20:45,740 --> 01:20:47,609 FINAL VOTE. I WANT TO THANK, 2500 01:20:47,609 --> 01:20:49,511 AGAIN, THE CO-SPONSORS ON THIS 2501 01:20:49,511 --> 01:20:50,078 LEGISLATION. COUNCILMEMBER 2502 01:20:50,078 --> 01:20:51,613 FOSTER AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 2503 01:20:51,613 --> 01:20:53,215 AYE. WANT TO THANK AGAIN THE 2504 01:20:53,215 --> 01:20:55,450 BROAD COALITION OF SUPPORTERS 2505 01:20:55,450 --> 01:20:56,851 WHO ARE STANDING BY THIS 2506 01:20:56,851 --> 01:20:58,220 LEGISLATION AND HAVE CONTINUED 2507 01:20:58,220 --> 01:20:59,721 TO SHOW UP IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS 2508 01:20:59,721 --> 01:21:02,390 TO FIGHT FOR WORKING PEOPLE. I 2509 01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:04,192 APPRECIATE YOU. I ALSO WANT TO 2510 01:21:04,192 --> 01:21:05,093 THANK THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR'S 2511 01:21:05,093 --> 01:21:08,296 OFFICE. A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO 2512 01:21:08,296 --> 01:21:09,698 CRAFTING THIS LEGISLATION, SO I 2513 01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:11,833 SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK SAGE 2514 01:21:11,833 --> 01:21:13,768 PAREKH, ARTIE NOSRATI, KAREEM 2515 01:21:13,768 --> 01:21:15,403 LEVITAS, SAGE WILSON, CHERYL D, 2516 01:21:15,403 --> 01:21:17,906 AND BARBARA TALKINGTON FOR THEIR 2517 01:21:17,906 --> 01:21:19,174 HARD WORK OVER A NUMBER OF 2518 01:21:19,174 --> 01:21:21,309 MONTHS TO CRAFT THIS 2519 01:21:21,309 --> 01:21:22,310 LEGISLATION. AND THANK YOU TO 2520 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:24,012 TIM LENNON ON MY TEAM FOR HIS 2521 01:21:24,012 --> 01:21:25,847 CAREFUL WORK ALONGSIDE IN 2522 01:21:25,847 --> 01:21:27,382 CRAFTING THIS LEGISLATION AND 2523 01:21:27,382 --> 01:21:29,417 SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATIVE 2524 01:21:29,417 --> 01:21:30,719 PROCESS. AND I WOULD BE REMISS 2525 01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:33,088 IF I DIDN'T ALSO THANK CENTRAL 2526 01:21:33,088 --> 01:21:35,223 STAFF'S HARD WORK ALONGSIDE OUR 2527 01:21:35,223 --> 01:21:35,724 OFFICE IN CRAFTING THIS 2528 01:21:35,724 --> 01:21:36,458 LEGISLATION. SO HUGE THANK YOU 2529 01:21:36,458 --> 01:21:38,526 TO JASMINE, MARWAHA AND TAMASO 2530 01:21:38,526 --> 01:21:42,497 JOHNSON JOHNSON. AND WITH THAT, 2531 01:21:42,497 --> 01:21:43,565 COLLEAGUES, I AM GOING TO CALL 2532 01:21:43,565 --> 01:21:45,533 THE FINAL ROLL. SO WILL THE 2533 01:21:45,533 --> 01:21:46,701 COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 2534 01:21:46,701 --> 01:21:47,903 ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE 2535 01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:50,305 RECOMMENDATION TO PASS THE BILL, 2536 01:21:50,305 --> 01:21:50,605 AS AMENDED. 2537 01:21:50,605 --> 01:21:52,908 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2538 01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:53,141 -- YES. 2539 01:21:53,141 --> 01:21:55,911 -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 2540 01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:56,278 HOLLINGSWORTH. 2541 01:21:56,278 --> 01:21:57,178 -- YES. 2542 01:21:57,178 --> 01:21:59,381 -- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. AYE. 2543 01:21:59,381 --> 01:21:59,714 CHAIR RINCK. 2544 01:21:59,714 --> 01:22:01,082 -- YES. 2545 01:22:01,082 --> 01:22:01,816 -- CHAIR. THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS 2546 01:22:01,816 --> 01:22:04,185 IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. 2547 01:22:04,185 --> 01:22:05,387 -- THE MOTION CARRIES IN THE 2548 01:22:05,387 --> 01:22:06,221 COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT 2549 01:22:06,221 --> 01:22:07,889 THE BILL BE PASSED WILL BE SENT 2550 01:22:07,889 --> 01:22:09,824 TO THE SEPTEMBER 22nd CITY 2551 01:22:09,824 --> 01:22:10,225 COUNCIL MEETING. 2552 01:22:10,225 --> 01:22:12,327 -- THANK 2553 01:22:12,327 --> 01:22:12,661 -- [APPLAUSE] 2554 01:22:12,661 --> 01:22:12,894 -- YOU. 2555 01:22:12,894 --> 01:22:23,338 -- [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] 2556 01:22:25,407 --> 01:22:26,608 -- IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO HEAR 2557 01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:27,075 APPLAUSE IN CHAMBERS. 2558 01:22:27,075 --> 01:22:27,742 COLLEAGUES, I WANT TO THANK YOU 2559 01:22:27,742 --> 01:22:29,477 AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND 2560 01:22:29,477 --> 01:22:31,513 SUPPORT OF THIS BILL FOR 2561 01:22:31,513 --> 01:22:32,147 STRENGTHENING IT, NOT JUST HERE 2562 01:22:32,147 --> 01:22:33,648 IN COMMITTEE, BUT JUST OVER THE 2563 01:22:33,648 --> 01:22:34,449 PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. I KNOW 2564 01:22:34,449 --> 01:22:37,152 EACH OF YOU PUT A LOT OF HOURS 2565 01:22:37,152 --> 01:22:37,686 INTO THIS WORKING WITH MY 2566 01:22:37,686 --> 01:22:39,220 OFFICE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, 2567 01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:40,288 I SEE YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU. 2568 01:22:40,288 --> 01:22:40,622 -- [APPLAUSE] 2569 01:22:40,622 --> 01:22:42,457 -- THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK 2570 01:22:42,457 --> 01:22:42,657 YOU. 2571 01:22:42,657 --> 01:22:42,991 -- [APPLAUSE] 2572 01:22:42,991 --> 01:22:47,595 -- SO AS THIS. 2573 01:22:47,595 --> 01:22:48,997 -- LEGISLATION ENTERS THE 2574 01:22:48,997 --> 01:22:50,098 HOMESTRETCH AND THE REST OF OUR 2575 01:22:50,098 --> 01:22:51,299 COLLEAGUES WILL ALSO HAVE A 2576 01:22:51,299 --> 01:22:52,734 CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS 2577 01:22:52,734 --> 01:22:54,402 DISCUSSION, I THINK WE'VE SENT 2578 01:22:54,402 --> 01:22:56,604 A CLEAR AND UNITED MESSAGE HERE 2579 01:22:56,604 --> 01:22:57,238 TODAY THAT SEATTLEITES DESERVE 2580 01:22:57,238 --> 01:23:00,075 FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PRICING. 2581 01:23:00,075 --> 01:23:00,675 THANK YOU EVERYONE. WE HAVE 2582 01:23:00,675 --> 01:23:02,577 REACHED THE END OF TODAY'S 2583 01:23:02,577 --> 01:23:03,545 COMMITTEE AGENDA. IS THERE 2584 01:23:03,545 --> 01:23:05,313 ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE 2585 01:23:05,313 --> 01:23:06,881 ORDER, SEEING AND HEARING? NONE. 2586 01:23:06,881 --> 01:23:08,016 COUNCIL PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE 2587 01:23:08,016 --> 01:23:11,353 ANYTHING TO SHARE? THANK YOU. 2588 01:23:11,353 --> 01:23:12,354 SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE 2589 01:23:12,354 --> 01:23:14,222 NEXT HUMAN SERVICES LABOR AND 2590 01:23:14,222 --> 01:23:14,856 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE 2591 01:23:14,856 --> 01:23:15,924 MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT 2592 01:23:15,924 --> 01:23:18,393 FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 18th AT 9:30 2593 01:23:18,393 --> 01:23:20,795 A.M. THAT MEETING WILL BE MUCH 2594 01:23:20,795 --> 01:23:21,796 LONGER THAN THE ONE TODAY. THAT 2595 01:23:21,796 --> 01:23:22,397 WILL BE THE FINAL MEETING OF 2596 01:23:22,397 --> 01:23:23,965 THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE COUNCIL 2597 01:23:23,965 --> 01:23:26,201 HEADS INTO BUDGET HEARING. NO 2598 01:23:26,201 --> 01:23:27,535 FURTHER BUSINESS. WE ARE 2599 01:23:27,535 --> 01:23:29,537 ADJOURNED. IT IS 3:32 P.M.. 2600 01:23:29,537 --> 01:23:31,006 THANK