1 00:00:02,268 --> 00:00:12,479 [MUSIC] [MUSIC] 2 00:00:15,915 --> 00:00:16,816 -- GOOD MORNING. THE HUMAN 3 00:00:16,816 --> 00:00:18,518 SERVICES, LABOR AND ECONOMIC 4 00:00:18,518 --> 00:00:19,152 DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING OF 5 00:00:19,152 --> 00:00:21,688 THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WILL 6 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:24,090 NOW COME TO ORDER. IT IS 9:33 7 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:27,460 A.M. AUGUST 21st, 2026. I'M 8 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:28,061 COUNCILMEMBER ALEXIS MERCEDES 9 00:00:28,061 --> 00:00:29,295 RINCK, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. 10 00:00:29,295 --> 00:00:33,099 WILL THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE 11 00:00:33,099 --> 00:00:35,034 CALL THE ROLL? CHAIR RINCK HERE. 12 00:00:35,034 --> 00:00:39,139 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER HERE. 13 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:39,706 COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH 14 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:41,808 HERE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 15 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:44,043 MORNING. 16 00:00:44,043 --> 00:00:45,078 -- HERE. 17 00:00:45,078 --> 00:00:48,114 -- THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS 18 00:00:48,114 --> 00:00:49,416 PRESENT AND ONE EXCUSED. 19 00:00:49,416 --> 00:00:51,017 -- THANK YOU. LET THE RECORD 20 00:00:51,017 --> 00:00:51,584 REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER 21 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:52,218 JUAREZ IS EXCUSED. WE WILL NOW 22 00:00:52,218 --> 00:00:53,787 MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF TODAY'S 23 00:00:53,787 --> 00:00:54,988 AGENDA. IF THERE IS NO 24 00:00:54,988 --> 00:00:57,991 OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE 25 00:00:57,991 --> 00:01:00,160 ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION, 26 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,962 THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WELCOME, 27 00:01:02,962 --> 00:01:04,230 EVERYONE. TODAY'S AGENDA IS 28 00:01:04,230 --> 00:01:06,332 LENGTHY, WITH FIVE SUBSTANTIVE 29 00:01:06,332 --> 00:01:07,667 ITEMS, INCLUDING A BRIEFING, 30 00:01:07,667 --> 00:01:09,069 DISCUSSION, PUBLIC HEARING AND 31 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:11,771 VOTES ON TWO BUSINESS 32 00:01:11,771 --> 00:01:12,572 IMPROVEMENT AREA ORDINANCES ONE 33 00:01:12,572 --> 00:01:14,874 FOR THE BROADWAY BIA IN CAPITOL 34 00:01:14,874 --> 00:01:16,009 HILL AND ONE FOR THE BALLARD 35 00:01:16,009 --> 00:01:17,777 ASSESSMENT FORMULA AMENDMENT. 36 00:01:17,777 --> 00:01:20,180 WE'LL ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION 37 00:01:20,180 --> 00:01:22,048 AND VOTE ON THE AMENDED DOMESTIC 38 00:01:22,048 --> 00:01:23,116 WORKERS ORDINANCE, WHICH THIS 39 00:01:23,116 --> 00:01:23,817 COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED ON DURING 40 00:01:23,817 --> 00:01:25,552 OUR LAST MEETING. WE'LL THEN 41 00:01:25,552 --> 00:01:26,719 HAVE A BRIEFING FROM CENTRAL 42 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:29,589 STAFF ON POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, 43 00:01:29,589 --> 00:01:30,056 AND WE WILL HEAR FROM 44 00:01:30,056 --> 00:01:32,358 COUNCILMEMBERS ON THEIR 45 00:01:32,358 --> 00:01:33,760 AMENDMENT CONCEPTS FOR THE FAIR 46 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,294 PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 47 00:01:34,294 --> 00:01:34,928 ORDINANCE. AND LASTLY, WE WILL 48 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:36,329 HAVE A BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION 49 00:01:36,329 --> 00:01:38,331 ON AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO 50 00:01:38,331 --> 00:01:39,833 COMMERCIAL LEASE TRANSPARENCY. 51 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:42,135 WITH THAT, WE WILL NOW OPEN THE 52 00:01:42,135 --> 00:01:43,636 PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC 53 00:01:43,636 --> 00:01:45,238 COMMENTS SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS 54 00:01:45,238 --> 00:01:46,673 ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR WITHIN THE 55 00:01:46,673 --> 00:01:48,408 PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE. TWO 56 00:01:48,408 --> 00:01:51,344 OF TODAY'S ITEMS DO REQUIRE 57 00:01:51,344 --> 00:01:52,846 PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO IF YOU ARE 58 00:01:52,846 --> 00:01:55,181 REGISTERED FOR TODAY'S PUBLIC 59 00:01:55,181 --> 00:01:56,082 HEARING ON AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND 60 00:01:56,082 --> 00:01:57,250 TWO RELATING TO THE CAPITOL HILL 61 00:01:57,250 --> 00:02:00,019 BIA AND THE BALLARD BIA, PLEASE 62 00:02:00,019 --> 00:02:00,653 HOLD YOUR COMMENTS RELATING TO 63 00:02:00,653 --> 00:02:03,156 THOSE BIA'S UNTIL WE REACH THOSE 64 00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:04,257 AGENDA ITEMS, AND THE PUBLIC 65 00:02:04,257 --> 00:02:05,658 HEARINGS WILL BEGIN WITH EACH 66 00:02:05,658 --> 00:02:07,260 AGENDA ITEM. SO, CLERK, HOW MANY 67 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:09,496 SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP 68 00:02:09,496 --> 00:02:09,796 FOR TODAY? 69 00:02:09,796 --> 00:02:10,396 -- CURRENTLY WE HAVE TEN IN 70 00:02:10,396 --> 00:02:14,267 PERSON AND FIVE REMOTE SPEAKERS. 71 00:02:14,267 --> 00:02:15,835 -- THANK YOU. EACH SPEAKER WILL 72 00:02:15,835 --> 00:02:17,637 HAVE TWO MINUTES AND WE WILL 73 00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:18,671 START WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS. 74 00:02:18,671 --> 00:02:20,940 FIRST CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE READ 75 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:22,208 THE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS? 76 00:02:22,208 --> 00:02:23,276 -- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 77 00:02:23,276 --> 00:02:24,144 WILL BE MODERATED IN THE 78 00:02:24,144 --> 00:02:24,978 FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC 79 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:27,814 COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 60 80 00:02:27,814 --> 00:02:28,681 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED 81 00:02:28,681 --> 00:02:31,584 IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY 82 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:32,118 REGISTERED. SPEAKERS WILL 83 00:02:32,118 --> 00:02:33,653 ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS OF 84 00:02:33,653 --> 00:02:35,321 IN-PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS 85 00:02:35,321 --> 00:02:36,422 UNTIL THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 86 00:02:36,422 --> 00:02:38,458 IS ENDED. PLEASE BEGIN BY 87 00:02:38,458 --> 00:02:39,092 STATING YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM 88 00:02:39,092 --> 00:02:40,727 YOU'RE ADDRESSING. SPEAKERS 89 00:02:40,727 --> 00:02:42,128 WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN 10 90 00:02:42,128 --> 00:02:44,564 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THEIR TIME. 91 00:02:44,564 --> 00:02:46,165 SPEAKERS. MIKES WILL BE MUTED IF 92 00:02:46,165 --> 00:02:47,333 THEY DO NOT END THEIR COMMENTS 93 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:47,901 WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME TO 94 00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:49,369 ALLOW US TO CALL IN THE NEXT 95 00:02:49,369 --> 00:02:50,169 SPEAKER. THE PUBLIC COMMENT 96 00:02:50,169 --> 00:02:52,305 PERIOD IS NOW OPEN, AND WE WILL 97 00:02:52,305 --> 00:02:53,740 BEGIN WITH THE FIRST SPEAKER ON 98 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:54,974 THE LIST. 99 00:02:54,974 --> 00:02:55,608 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I'M 100 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:56,209 GOING TO READ THE FIRST FIVE, 101 00:02:56,209 --> 00:02:59,045 JUST SO FOLKS KNOW HOW TO ORIENT 102 00:02:59,045 --> 00:03:00,446 THEMSELVES. SO FIRST, WE HAVE 103 00:03:00,446 --> 00:03:03,316 JOAN PAULSON, FOLLOWED BY CLIFF 104 00:03:03,316 --> 00:03:05,518 HOLLAND, THEN ROBERT SINGLETON, 105 00:03:05,518 --> 00:03:09,122 AMANDA DALTON, AND THEN DAVID 106 00:03:09,122 --> 00:03:11,024 HILL. ALL RIGHT, COMING 107 00:03:11,024 --> 00:03:12,292 TOGETHER. GREAT. 108 00:03:12,292 --> 00:03:12,792 -- YES WE ARE. 109 00:03:12,792 --> 00:03:16,029 -- THANK YOU. I'M JOAN PAULSON, 110 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:18,097 I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF OF THE 111 00:03:18,097 --> 00:03:20,600 CENTRAL AREA SENIOR CENTER AND 112 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,235 I'M WHICH IS IN DISTRICT NUMBER 113 00:03:22,235 --> 00:03:23,403 THREE. AND THIS IS A 114 00:03:23,403 --> 00:03:26,639 CONTINUATION OF THE AUGUST 7th 115 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,907 MEETING AND INFORMATION THAT WAS 116 00:03:27,907 --> 00:03:31,778 SHARED ABOUT HUMAN SERVICES AND 117 00:03:31,778 --> 00:03:34,881 THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS THAT 118 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:37,283 IS BEING ADJUSTED AS TIME GOES 119 00:03:37,283 --> 00:03:41,988 ON. I'M BASICALLY SAYING THAT 120 00:03:41,988 --> 00:03:46,759 OUR, THE, OUR ORGANIZATION HAS 121 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:49,062 BEEN NOT PAID OR REIMBURSED FOR 122 00:03:49,062 --> 00:03:51,564 MAY, JUNE AND JULY AT A COST OF 123 00:03:51,564 --> 00:03:53,700 $30,000 EACH MONTH. NOT BEING 124 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:59,005 ABLE TO PAY BILLS AND STAFFING. 125 00:03:59,005 --> 00:04:02,308 SINCE JANUARY, THE PROCESS FOR 126 00:04:02,308 --> 00:04:04,410 REIMBURSING PAPERWORK HAS 127 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:07,547 CHANGED 5 TO 6 DIFFERENT TIMES, 128 00:04:07,547 --> 00:04:09,616 WHICH REQUIRES ADJUSTMENT IN 129 00:04:09,616 --> 00:04:11,985 TERMS OF ACCOMMODATING THOSE 130 00:04:11,985 --> 00:04:14,587 CHANGES. THIS IS THE DOWNFALL 131 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:16,522 THAT HAS HAPPENED IN TERMS OF 132 00:04:16,522 --> 00:04:19,325 THE OVERALL PROCESS THIS YEAR, 133 00:04:19,325 --> 00:04:20,326 AND THAT NEEDS TO BE MITIGATED 134 00:04:20,326 --> 00:04:22,895 IN ORDER TO ALLOW SERVICES TO BE 135 00:04:22,895 --> 00:04:25,131 PAID FOR AND PROVIDED, BUT 136 00:04:25,131 --> 00:04:28,134 REIMBURSED IN A MORE APPROPRIATE 137 00:04:28,134 --> 00:04:31,938 TIME FRAME OF 60 TO 90 DAYS OUT. 138 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:34,574 WAITING TIME. THANK YOU FOR MY 139 00:04:34,574 --> 00:04:35,441 TIME. AND NOW CLIFF WILL TAKE 140 00:04:35,441 --> 00:04:37,677 IT. AS PRESIDENT. 141 00:04:37,677 --> 00:04:38,678 -- I'M CLIFF HOLLAND, I'M THE 142 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:40,079 BOARD PRESIDENT AT CENTRAL AREA 143 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:42,782 SENIOR CENTER, AND ALONG WITH 144 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:46,519 WHAT JOAN SAYS, WE'RE REALLY 145 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:47,820 IMPACTED BY THE SLOW 146 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:50,957 REIMBURSEMENTS. AFTER OUR AFTER 147 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:53,092 WE INVOICE, IT TAKES 3 TO 4 148 00:04:53,092 --> 00:04:56,562 MONTHS TO GET REIMBURSEMENTS. 149 00:04:56,562 --> 00:05:00,266 THIS HAS CAUSED US TO HAVE SHORT 150 00:05:00,266 --> 00:05:02,135 DELAY IN PAYMENTS WITH OUR 151 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,404 CONTRACTORS BEING THE PROGRAM 152 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:08,041 FOLKS. ALSO, STAFF HAS BEEN 153 00:05:08,041 --> 00:05:09,809 DELAYED GETTING PAYMENTS AND 154 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:11,678 EVERYTHING. OUR RESERVE FUNDS 155 00:05:11,678 --> 00:05:13,513 THAT WE HAD ARE DEPLETED BECAUSE 156 00:05:13,513 --> 00:05:17,050 WE HAVE TO USE OUR FUNDS. THEN 157 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:18,718 WE INVOICE. THAT BILL MEANS, 158 00:05:18,718 --> 00:05:21,287 OKAY, I'M ABOUT TO GET SHOT, 159 00:05:21,287 --> 00:05:23,256 BUT THAT INVOICE. OKAY, GOOD. 160 00:05:23,256 --> 00:05:24,557 THAT INVOICING. THEN IT TAKES 3 161 00:05:24,557 --> 00:05:27,060 TO 4 MONTHS AFTER THAT, WHICH 162 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:29,862 CAUSES US A MAJOR, MAJOR 163 00:05:29,862 --> 00:05:31,030 SHORTFALL IN OUR REVENUE. OUR 164 00:05:31,030 --> 00:05:32,632 OUR RESERVE FUNDS HAVE BEEN 165 00:05:32,632 --> 00:05:34,801 DEPLETED WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR 166 00:05:34,801 --> 00:05:37,303 THESE REIMBURSEMENTS 167 00:05:37,303 --> 00:05:39,338 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY TEAM IS 168 00:05:39,338 --> 00:05:40,006 GOING TO ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO 169 00:05:40,006 --> 00:05:42,709 YOU TO GET GET YOU SOME CONTACT 170 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:43,943 INFORMATION AND SEE HOW WE CAN 171 00:05:43,943 --> 00:05:44,343 HELP AND SUPPORT. 172 00:05:44,343 --> 00:05:45,712 -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK 173 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:47,980 YOU. HELP A BROTHER. 174 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:49,082 -- THANK YOU FROM DISTRICT 175 00:05:49,082 --> 00:05:49,449 THREE. 176 00:05:49,449 --> 00:05:50,516 -- THANK YOU. AND AS A REMINDER 177 00:05:50,516 --> 00:05:52,285 TO ALL THAT LITTLE BING MEANS 178 00:05:52,285 --> 00:05:53,853 YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS LEFT AND 179 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:54,353 NOBODY GETS HURT. 180 00:05:54,353 --> 00:05:54,687 -- [LAUGHTER] 181 00:05:54,687 --> 00:05:58,291 -- OKAY ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP ON 182 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:01,861 HERE, I HAVE CLIFF HOLLAND, 183 00:06:01,861 --> 00:06:06,566 CLIFF OH, WE'RE SORRY, SIR, YOU 184 00:06:06,566 --> 00:06:08,835 WERE OKAY. APOLOGIES. NEXT UP IS 185 00:06:08,835 --> 00:06:10,937 ROBERT. WE'RE ABOUT TO GO ON 186 00:06:10,937 --> 00:06:11,971 COUNCIL RECESS. OH, SORRY. 187 00:06:11,971 --> 00:06:14,807 ROBERT, PLEASE 188 00:06:14,807 --> 00:06:15,908 -- GOOD MORNING CHAIR. MY NAME 189 00:06:15,908 --> 00:06:17,043 IS ROBERT SINGLETON AND I'M HERE 190 00:06:17,043 --> 00:06:18,277 WITH CHAMBER OF PROGRESS. I'M. 191 00:06:18,277 --> 00:06:20,880 WE'RE PART OF A TECH INDUSTRY 192 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,414 ASSOCIATION THAT SUPPORTS 193 00:06:21,414 --> 00:06:22,682 INCLUSIVE INNOVATION. I'M HERE 194 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:24,650 TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO THE 195 00:06:24,650 --> 00:06:25,551 PROPOSED DATA DRIVEN PRICING 196 00:06:25,551 --> 00:06:26,552 BAN. BECAUSE OF THE PRACTICAL 197 00:06:26,552 --> 00:06:28,087 RESULT OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD 198 00:06:28,087 --> 00:06:29,055 BE WOULD BE TO MAKE SEATTLE AN 199 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:30,590 EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE CITY FOR 200 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:31,624 RESIDENTS AND EVEN HARDER PLACE 201 00:06:31,624 --> 00:06:33,426 TO DO BUSINESS OR FOR BUSINESSES 202 00:06:33,426 --> 00:06:34,727 TO OPERATE. TO BE CLEAR, WE 203 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:35,561 AGREE THAT CONSUMERS SHOULD BE 204 00:06:35,561 --> 00:06:37,363 PROTECTED FROM PERSONALIZED 205 00:06:37,363 --> 00:06:38,264 PRICE INCREASES. HOWEVER, WE 206 00:06:38,264 --> 00:06:39,499 HAVE THREE PARAMOUNT CONCERNS 207 00:06:39,499 --> 00:06:40,933 WITH THIS MEASURE AS WRITTEN 208 00:06:40,933 --> 00:06:43,302 THAT, WHEN ADOPTED, WOULD WORK 209 00:06:43,302 --> 00:06:45,538 IN TANDEM TO MAKE SEATTLE AN 210 00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:46,472 ISLAND OF UNAFFORDABILITY. THIS 211 00:06:46,472 --> 00:06:47,039 ORDINANCE OPENLY LIMITS AND 212 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:48,574 FURTHER DISCOURAGES BUSINESSES 213 00:06:48,574 --> 00:06:50,042 FROM OFFERING DISCOUNTS AND 214 00:06:50,042 --> 00:06:51,511 LOYALTY REWARDS FOR THEIR 215 00:06:51,511 --> 00:06:52,411 CUSTOMERS BASED UPON THE WAY 216 00:06:52,411 --> 00:06:54,380 THEY ARE DEFINED AND IN CREATING 217 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:55,415 MULTI-PAGE COMPLIANCE BURDENS ON 218 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:55,948 THOSE OFFERING LEGITIMATE 219 00:06:55,948 --> 00:06:56,783 DISCOUNTS TO THE LETTER OF THE 220 00:06:56,783 --> 00:06:59,385 LAW. THIS MEASURE IS PAIRED WITH 221 00:06:59,385 --> 00:07:00,420 A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION, 222 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:01,921 MEANING THAT ANY AND EVERY PRICE 223 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:02,622 CHANGE COULD BE SUBJECT TO A 224 00:07:02,622 --> 00:07:04,090 FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT WITH OR 225 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:06,392 WITHOUT MERIT, FORCING EVERY 226 00:07:06,392 --> 00:07:07,026 BUSINESS TO JUSTIFY EVERY PRICE 227 00:07:07,026 --> 00:07:09,395 CHANGE FOR EVERY PRODUCT, 228 00:07:09,395 --> 00:07:10,029 POTENTIALLY DIVULGING SENSITIVE 229 00:07:10,029 --> 00:07:10,696 INFORMATION. BUT MORE OFTEN THAN 230 00:07:10,696 --> 00:07:12,131 NOT, HAVING TO SPEND TIME, 231 00:07:12,131 --> 00:07:13,332 ENERGY, AND MONEY IN RESPONSE. 232 00:07:13,332 --> 00:07:14,967 AND THREE, THIS ORDINANCE CAN 233 00:07:14,967 --> 00:07:16,435 ONLY APPLY IN THE JURISDICTION 234 00:07:16,435 --> 00:07:17,637 OF SEATTLE, WHICH WILL CHANGE 235 00:07:17,637 --> 00:07:18,938 INHERENTLY. SEGMENT OUT THE 236 00:07:18,938 --> 00:07:19,906 OPERATIONAL PRACTICES OF EVERY 237 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:21,107 BUSINESS THAT DOES BUSINESS IN 238 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:22,308 AND OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, 239 00:07:22,308 --> 00:07:23,409 WHICH WILL AGAIN COST TIME, 240 00:07:23,409 --> 00:07:24,677 ENERGY AND MONEY, ALL OF WHICH 241 00:07:24,677 --> 00:07:25,945 WILL BE PASSED ON THE CONSUMER 242 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:28,381 IN THE FORM OF HIGHER PRICES. 243 00:07:28,381 --> 00:07:29,015 TAKEN TOGETHER, LOCAL BUSINESSES 244 00:07:29,015 --> 00:07:31,384 COULD BE FORCED TO RESPOND TO 245 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:32,185 THE ORDINANCE AS FOLLOWS AND ALL 246 00:07:32,185 --> 00:07:32,819 SPECIALIZED COUPONS, DISCOUNTS 247 00:07:32,819 --> 00:07:34,086 AND LOYALTY REWARDS BECAUSE 248 00:07:34,086 --> 00:07:34,987 IT'S SIMPLY EASIER IN THIS, 249 00:07:34,987 --> 00:07:36,055 CHEAPER THAN TRYING TO FIGURE 250 00:07:36,055 --> 00:07:37,924 OUT IF THEY APPLY AND UNDER WHAT 251 00:07:37,924 --> 00:07:39,759 CONDITIONS. AS PER THE 252 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:41,227 ORDINANCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN 253 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:41,861 IMPROPER COMPLIANCE OPENS YOU UP 254 00:07:41,861 --> 00:07:43,429 TO LEGAL SCRUTINY, PRESUME THAT 255 00:07:43,429 --> 00:07:45,865 YOU WILL BE SUED AT SOME POINT 256 00:07:45,865 --> 00:07:48,201 BECAUSE PRICES NEED TO CHANGE 257 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:48,835 FOR MANY LEGITIMATE REASONS ALL 258 00:07:48,835 --> 00:07:49,836 THE TIME, AND DYNAMICALLY SO IN 259 00:07:49,836 --> 00:07:50,870 OUR MODERN, DIGITALLY CONNECTED 260 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:51,938 WORLD. AND ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE 261 00:07:51,938 --> 00:07:53,172 THOSE PRICE CHANGES CAN CAUSE 262 00:07:53,172 --> 00:07:56,309 YOU TO SPEND TIME, ENERGY, AND 263 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:56,809 MONEY TO FIGHT IMPROPER 264 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:57,476 ASSUMPTIONS. AGAIN, EVEN IF THE 265 00:07:57,476 --> 00:07:58,778 CHALLENGE IS WITHOUT MERIT. AND 266 00:07:58,778 --> 00:08:00,580 THREE LIKELY, LIKELY INCREASED 267 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:02,782 PRICES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS IN 268 00:08:02,782 --> 00:08:03,416 PROACTIVE ANTICIPATION OF LEGAL 269 00:08:03,416 --> 00:08:06,385 AND COMPLIANCE COSTS, THE END 270 00:08:06,385 --> 00:08:06,919 RESULTS ARE THAT SEATTLE 271 00:08:06,919 --> 00:08:09,322 RESIDENTS WILL HAVE 272 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:09,922 SUBSTANTIALLY FEWER DEALS AND 273 00:08:09,922 --> 00:08:10,923 COUPONS, AND HIGHER OVERALL 274 00:08:10,923 --> 00:08:11,524 COSTS, AND FEWER OPTIONS FOR 275 00:08:11,524 --> 00:08:13,459 PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. BECAUSE 276 00:08:13,459 --> 00:08:14,026 COMPLIANCE AND LEGAL COSTS 277 00:08:14,026 --> 00:08:14,727 DISPROPORTIONATELY FALL ON 278 00:08:14,727 --> 00:08:17,964 SMALLER COMPANIES. THANK YOU. 279 00:08:17,964 --> 00:08:20,333 -- THANK YOU ROBERT. NEXT UP WE 280 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:30,676 HAVE AMANDA DALTON. 281 00:08:30,943 --> 00:08:34,280 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND 282 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,214 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AMANDA 283 00:08:35,214 --> 00:08:36,249 DALTON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF 284 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:38,417 THE NORTHWEST GROCERY RETAIL 285 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:39,485 ASSOCIATION. AS I SHARED AT THE 286 00:08:39,485 --> 00:08:41,187 LAST HEARING, MY MEMBERS SUPPORT 287 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:43,489 PROHIBITING THE USE OF PERSONAL 288 00:08:43,489 --> 00:08:44,590 INFORMATION TO INCREASE PRICES. 289 00:08:44,590 --> 00:08:46,859 BUT THE ORDINANCE IS NARROW 290 00:08:46,859 --> 00:08:47,460 EXEMPTIONS, BROAD DISCLOSURE 291 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:49,528 REQUIREMENTS, AND SIGNIFICANT 292 00:08:49,528 --> 00:08:52,965 PRIVATE LITIGATION EXPOSURE 293 00:08:52,965 --> 00:08:53,599 CREATES SUBSTANTIAL UNCERTAINTY 294 00:08:53,599 --> 00:08:54,233 REGARDING HOW COVERED RETAILERS 295 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:54,901 MAY CONTINUE TO DELIVER, 296 00:08:54,901 --> 00:08:56,669 COMMUNICATE AND ADMINISTER 297 00:08:56,669 --> 00:08:57,303 DISCOUNTS THAT CONSUMERS RECEIVE 298 00:08:57,303 --> 00:08:58,738 TODAY THROUGH RETAIL REWARDS 299 00:08:58,738 --> 00:08:59,939 PROGRAMS. AS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM 300 00:08:59,939 --> 00:09:01,807 ME, WE DISAGREE WITH PROPONENTS 301 00:09:01,807 --> 00:09:04,410 THAT THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, 302 00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:05,044 WITHOUT ANY AMENDMENTS, ENSURES 303 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:07,713 THAT SEATTLE CUSTOMERS WILL 304 00:09:07,713 --> 00:09:08,648 CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME ACCESS 305 00:09:08,648 --> 00:09:09,982 TO COUPONS AND DISCOUNT PROGRAMS 306 00:09:09,982 --> 00:09:12,018 THAT THEY DO TODAY. 307 00:09:12,018 --> 00:09:13,386 SPECIFICALLY, WE BELIEVE THAT AS 308 00:09:13,386 --> 00:09:15,888 CURRENTLY DRAFTED, THE ORDINANCE 309 00:09:15,888 --> 00:09:17,657 WILL REDUCE THE AVAILABILITY OF 310 00:09:17,657 --> 00:09:18,257 LOYALTY PROGRAM DISCOUNTS AND 311 00:09:18,257 --> 00:09:20,459 MANUFACTURER FUNDED COUPONS FOR 312 00:09:20,459 --> 00:09:21,561 SEATTLE CUSTOMERS. I WANT TO 313 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,296 PROVIDE A FEW EXAMPLES OF 314 00:09:23,296 --> 00:09:24,363 DISCOUNTS AND PERSONALIZED 315 00:09:24,363 --> 00:09:25,865 SAVINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE 316 00:09:25,865 --> 00:09:26,465 PROHIBITED UNDER THE CURRENT 317 00:09:26,465 --> 00:09:29,602 DRAFT CATEGORY. DISCOUNTS BRAND 318 00:09:29,602 --> 00:09:30,970 WINBACK DISCOUNTS, COMPETITIVE 319 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:32,471 BRAND SWITCHING DISCOUNTS, FOR 320 00:09:32,471 --> 00:09:33,873 EXAMPLE, AN EMERGING BRAND 321 00:09:33,873 --> 00:09:35,007 WANTING TO OFFER A COUPON 322 00:09:35,007 --> 00:09:36,075 THROUGH A THIRD PARTY WOULD NOT 323 00:09:36,075 --> 00:09:37,743 BE ABLE TO RELY ON PURCHASE 324 00:09:37,743 --> 00:09:39,211 HISTORY TO TARGET CUSTOMERS OF 325 00:09:39,211 --> 00:09:42,682 THE BIGGER BRANDS. OR IF YOU 326 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:43,249 REGULARLY BUY CHEERIOS AND 327 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:44,183 KELLOGG'S WANTS TO GIVE YOU $2 328 00:09:44,183 --> 00:09:45,551 OFF A BOX TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO 329 00:09:45,551 --> 00:09:48,154 TRY ITS PRODUCT INSTEAD, NOT 330 00:09:48,154 --> 00:09:51,057 ALLOWED HOUSEHOLD ESSENTIALS AND 331 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:52,825 REPLENISHMENT DISCOUNTS. IF YOU 332 00:09:52,825 --> 00:09:54,160 RECENTLY BOUGHT TOILET PAPER AND 333 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,827 CHARMIN WANTS TO GIVE YOU $5 OFF 334 00:09:54,827 --> 00:09:55,995 YOUR NEXT BOX WHEN YOU'RE LIKELY 335 00:09:55,995 --> 00:09:57,930 TO NEED MORE NOT ALLOWED RETURN 336 00:09:57,930 --> 00:09:59,765 OFFICE OFFERS BASKET LEVEL 337 00:09:59,765 --> 00:10:01,901 SAVINGS, CROSS PRODUCT STORE 338 00:10:01,901 --> 00:10:04,036 OFFERS, MERCHANT TARGETS, REPEAT 339 00:10:04,036 --> 00:10:06,105 PURCHASE DISCOUNTS, AN ABANDONED 340 00:10:06,105 --> 00:10:08,507 CART, DISCOUNTS, NONMEMBER 341 00:10:08,507 --> 00:10:10,176 GROCERY DISCOUNTS. IF 342 00:10:10,176 --> 00:10:10,743 MANUFACTURERS CAN NO LONGER 343 00:10:10,743 --> 00:10:12,278 EFFECTIVELY TARGET DISCOUNTS TO 344 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:13,879 INTERESTED CUSTOMERS, THEY MAY 345 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:15,514 REDUCE PROMOTIONAL SPENDING, 346 00:10:15,514 --> 00:10:17,783 REDUCE THE VALUE OF OFFERS, OR 347 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:18,284 OFFER FEWER PROMOTIONS 348 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:20,186 ALTOGETHER JUST FOR CUSTOMERS 349 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:22,989 WHO LIVE AND SHOP IN SEATTLE. 350 00:10:22,989 --> 00:10:23,623 THE ORDINANCE, AS WRITTEN, WILL 351 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:25,524 MAKE GROCERIES LESS AFFORDABLE 352 00:10:25,524 --> 00:10:26,692 FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS, PERIOD. WE 353 00:10:26,692 --> 00:10:27,893 ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT 354 00:10:27,893 --> 00:10:28,995 AMENDMENTS THAT MAKE THIS 355 00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:30,796 DISTINCTION CLEAR AND ENSURE 356 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:32,898 THAT ORDINANCE ADVANCES 357 00:10:32,898 --> 00:10:33,566 SEATTLE'S GOALS OF AFFORDABILITY 358 00:10:33,566 --> 00:10:38,471 AND GROCERY ACCESS, RATHER THAN 359 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:38,871 UNDERMINING THEM. 360 00:10:38,871 --> 00:10:42,141 -- THANK YOU AMANDA. NEXT UP, 361 00:10:42,141 --> 00:10:45,678 WE'LL HAVE DAVID HILL FOLLOWED 362 00:10:45,678 --> 00:10:53,085 BY ZO MARCH. 363 00:10:53,085 --> 00:10:55,154 -- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 364 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:55,821 DAVID HILL. I'M SPEAKING TODAY 365 00:10:55,821 --> 00:10:56,489 ON BEHALF OF THE TRANSIT RIDERS 366 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:57,490 UNION IN FAVOR OF THE FAIR 367 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:00,259 PRICING ORDINANCE. I'VE BEEN OUT 368 00:11:00,259 --> 00:11:01,761 OF WORK FOR MOST OF THIS YEAR, 369 00:11:01,761 --> 00:11:03,596 AND WHILE THAT DOES FREE UP A 370 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:05,731 LOT OF TIME TO COME. SEE YOU 371 00:11:05,731 --> 00:11:06,932 GOOD FOLKS. ABOUT THREE TIMES A 372 00:11:06,932 --> 00:11:08,200 MONTH, IT DOES MEAN THAT I'VE 373 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,803 HAD TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT I 374 00:11:10,803 --> 00:11:12,471 CAN STRETCH EVERY DOLLAR TO THE 375 00:11:12,471 --> 00:11:14,240 FULLEST, SO THAT I CAN GET THE 376 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,375 NUTRITION I NEED TO CONTINUE 377 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:20,079 MAKING THESE MEETINGS. BIG 378 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:21,447 CORPORATE GROCERS SHOULD NOT BE 379 00:11:21,447 --> 00:11:23,149 ALLOWED TO USE INVASIVE TECH AND 380 00:11:23,149 --> 00:11:24,316 SURVEILLANCE ALGORITHMS TO GUESS 381 00:11:24,316 --> 00:11:26,619 WHAT PRICE I'M WILLING TO PAY 382 00:11:26,619 --> 00:11:29,021 AND PUSH PRICES UP. OPPONENTS 383 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:31,824 CLAIM THIS BILL WILL HURT 384 00:11:31,824 --> 00:11:32,458 EVERYDAY LOYALTY PROGRAMS, BUT 385 00:11:32,458 --> 00:11:33,793 THAT'S SIMPLY UNTRUE. THOSE 386 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:34,827 BASIC DISCOUNT CARVE OUTS ARE 387 00:11:34,827 --> 00:11:36,529 ALREADY BUILT RIGHT INTO THIS 388 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:38,798 MEASURE. SEATTLE RESIDENTS BASIC 389 00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:40,933 NUTRITION MUST BECOME OR MUST 390 00:11:40,933 --> 00:11:43,002 COME BEFORE CORPORATE PROFITS. 391 00:11:43,002 --> 00:11:44,804 PLEASE PROTECT WORKING FAMILIES 392 00:11:44,804 --> 00:11:45,404 AND VOTE YES TO PASS THIS 393 00:11:45,404 --> 00:11:47,073 ORDINANCE ON TO THE FULL 394 00:11:47,073 --> 00:11:53,612 COUNCIL. THANK YOU 395 00:11:53,612 --> 00:11:54,613 -- THANK YOU DAVID. NEXT, WE'LL 396 00:11:54,613 --> 00:11:59,185 HEAR FROM ZOE MARCH, FOLLOWED BY 397 00:11:59,185 --> 00:12:00,352 KRISTEN WILDER. 398 00:12:00,352 --> 00:12:02,054 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 399 00:12:02,054 --> 00:12:04,757 MY NAME IS MARCH AND I WORK AT 400 00:12:04,757 --> 00:12:05,357 PCC CORNER MARKET IN DOWNTOWN 401 00:12:05,357 --> 00:12:06,492 SEATTLE, JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY 402 00:12:06,492 --> 00:12:08,327 FROM HERE. I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO 403 00:12:08,327 --> 00:12:10,096 ASK YOU TO PASS THE FAIR PRICING 404 00:12:10,096 --> 00:12:13,032 AND TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE WITH 405 00:12:13,032 --> 00:12:14,800 NO CORPORATE AMENDMENTS. 406 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,435 GROCERIES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE NOW 407 00:12:16,435 --> 00:12:17,369 THAN EVER, AND SHOPPERS SPEND 408 00:12:17,369 --> 00:12:18,938 TIME LOOKING AT ADS AND SALES, 409 00:12:18,938 --> 00:12:20,873 DECIDING WHAT FITS THEIR BUDGETS 410 00:12:20,873 --> 00:12:22,208 EACH WEEK, WHEN ITEMS THEY 411 00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:23,576 EXPECT TO BE ON SALE AREN'T, OR 412 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:25,644 WHEN PRICES AT THE REGISTER 413 00:12:25,644 --> 00:12:26,479 DON'T MATCH THE PRICE ON THE 414 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:29,849 SHELF. CUSTOMERS SPEAK UP. SO 415 00:12:29,849 --> 00:12:31,417 WHEN SOME AI DRIVEN TECH CHARGES 416 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:33,319 ONE CUSTOMER MORE THAN ANOTHER 417 00:12:33,319 --> 00:12:34,920 BECAUSE OF DATA, BIG GROCERS 418 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,589 TRACK THE STAFF MEMBER AT THE 419 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:37,790 CHECKSTAND HAS TO DEAL WITH IT, 420 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:40,493 NOT THE EXECUTIVE WHO MADE THAT 421 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:42,761 DECISION. MY FELLOW GROCERY 422 00:12:42,761 --> 00:12:43,996 WORKERS DON'T DESERVE TO BE PUT 423 00:12:43,996 --> 00:12:48,000 IN THAT POSITION. NOW, THIS 424 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,601 ORDINANCE EXEMPTS MY EMPLOYER 425 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,002 AND THAT'S WHY THIS MATTERS SO 426 00:12:50,002 --> 00:12:54,273 MUCH TO ME. THIS HELPS LEVEL THE 427 00:12:54,273 --> 00:12:55,908 PLAYING FIELD WHEN IT COMES TO 428 00:12:55,908 --> 00:12:57,476 TRACKING DATA AND THE NEWEST AI 429 00:12:57,476 --> 00:12:59,078 PRICING TECH. WE WILL NEVER BE 430 00:12:59,078 --> 00:13:00,513 ABLE TO KEEP UP. NOT THAT WE 431 00:13:00,513 --> 00:13:03,582 EVEN WANT TO HEALTHY COMPETITION 432 00:13:03,582 --> 00:13:05,885 IS OVER. QUALITY CUSTOMER 433 00:13:05,885 --> 00:13:07,386 SERVICE AND FAIR PRICING, NOT 434 00:13:07,386 --> 00:13:09,955 MANIPULATING OUR CUSTOMERS TO 435 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:11,023 PAY MORE. ADDITIONALLY, THE 436 00:13:11,023 --> 00:13:12,358 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IN THIS 437 00:13:12,358 --> 00:13:13,959 ORDINANCE IS SO IMPORTANT. WE 438 00:13:13,959 --> 00:13:16,128 ALL KNOW WARNINGS OF FRIVOLOUS 439 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:16,762 LAWSUITS, WARNINGS COMING FROM 440 00:13:16,762 --> 00:13:17,897 THOSE WHO BENEFIT FROM THESE 441 00:13:17,897 --> 00:13:21,967 PRICING SCHEMES ARE NONSENSE. AN 442 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:22,601 ORDINANCE RELYING ON ENFORCEMENT 443 00:13:22,601 --> 00:13:24,703 BY AN UNDERSTAFFED, UNDERFUNDED 444 00:13:24,703 --> 00:13:27,473 AGENCY WILL NEVER LIVE UP TO ITS 445 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:29,575 INTENTION, AND VIOLATIONS WILL 446 00:13:29,575 --> 00:13:31,210 SNEAK THROUGH THAT AND PUSHING 447 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:33,012 HIGHER GROCERY BILLS ON 448 00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:33,646 SEATTLE'S FAMILIES IS EXACTLY 449 00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:34,914 WHAT THE LARGE CORPORATIONS 450 00:13:34,914 --> 00:13:36,749 OPPOSING THIS ORDINANCE WANT. 451 00:13:36,749 --> 00:13:38,484 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND 452 00:13:38,484 --> 00:13:40,186 PLEASE PASS THIS ORDINANCE AS 453 00:13:40,186 --> 00:13:43,822 WRITTEN WITHOUT CORPORATE 454 00:13:43,822 --> 00:13:44,123 AMENDMENT. 455 00:13:44,123 --> 00:13:47,760 -- [APPLAUSE] 456 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,595 -- THANK YOU. SO NEXT, WE'LL 457 00:13:49,595 --> 00:13:53,599 HEAR FROM KRISTEN WILDER, 458 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:57,703 FOLLOWED BY LOMPO. 459 00:13:57,703 --> 00:13:58,737 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 460 00:13:58,737 --> 00:13:59,772 MY NAME IS KRISTEN WILDER AND I 461 00:13:59,772 --> 00:14:01,774 WORK AS A FLORAL MANAGER AT 462 00:14:01,774 --> 00:14:04,910 UPTOWN QSC. I AM HERE TODAY TO 463 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:07,112 ASK YOU TO PASS THE FAIR 464 00:14:07,112 --> 00:14:09,615 PRICING. TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE 465 00:14:09,615 --> 00:14:10,216 WITH NO CORPORATE AMENDMENTS. 466 00:14:10,216 --> 00:14:13,619 WHEN I WORK AT A CHECKSTAND, I 467 00:14:13,619 --> 00:14:14,987 SAW CUSTOMERS WATCHING PRICES 468 00:14:14,987 --> 00:14:16,755 VERY CLOSELY. SOMETIMES I'D SAY 469 00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:17,723 HI WITH A SMILE ON MY FACE, AND 470 00:14:17,723 --> 00:14:19,758 THEY JUST STARE AT THE SCREEN AS 471 00:14:19,758 --> 00:14:22,461 I RANG THEM UP, MAKING SURE THEY 472 00:14:22,461 --> 00:14:23,929 GOT THE PRICE THEY WERE HUNTING 473 00:14:23,929 --> 00:14:26,332 FOR, AND IF THEY DIDN'T, 474 00:14:26,332 --> 00:14:26,999 THEY'D LET US KNOW. 475 00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:28,734 SURVEILLANCE PRICES PUT US IN A 476 00:14:28,734 --> 00:14:32,304 POSITION OF HAVING TO EXPLAIN 477 00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:32,938 CUSTOMERS THAT SOME ALGORITHMS 478 00:14:32,938 --> 00:14:33,539 IN THE BLACK BOX DECIDE THAT 479 00:14:33,539 --> 00:14:35,774 THEY SHOULD PAY MORE THAN 480 00:14:35,774 --> 00:14:38,244 SOMEONE ELSE. THIS, WHICH MAKES 481 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:39,345 OUR WORK THAT MUCH HARDER. I 482 00:14:39,345 --> 00:14:41,747 WANT TO DELIVER GREAT CUSTOMER 483 00:14:41,747 --> 00:14:44,817 SERVICE, NOT TECH SUPPORT. AND 484 00:14:44,817 --> 00:14:46,085 HERE IS THE OTHER THING. GROCERY 485 00:14:46,085 --> 00:14:48,454 STORE WORKERS ARE CUSTOMERS TOO. 486 00:14:48,454 --> 00:14:51,357 I'VE READ CUSTOMER REPORTS, 487 00:14:51,357 --> 00:14:53,959 INVESTIGATIONS SHOWING THAT 488 00:14:53,959 --> 00:14:54,593 SURVEILLANCE PRICES COULD COST 489 00:14:54,593 --> 00:14:55,227 SEATTLE FAMILIES OVER HUNDREDS 490 00:14:55,227 --> 00:14:56,629 OF DOLLARS MORE A MONTH. I 491 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:57,930 DON'T EVEN SPEND HUNDREDS OF 492 00:14:57,930 --> 00:14:59,131 DOLLARS A MONTH ON GROCERIES 493 00:14:59,131 --> 00:15:01,533 RIGHT NOW. I DEFINITELY DON'T 494 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:02,868 HAVE EXTRA HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS 495 00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:05,838 TO HAND OVER TO A GIANT GROCERY 496 00:15:05,838 --> 00:15:07,740 CORPORATION. NOW, I KNOW THE 497 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:09,708 GROCERY INDUSTRY LOBBY WANTS US, 498 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:10,876 WANTS AN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW 499 00:15:10,876 --> 00:15:13,646 GROCERY STORES TO USE THE PRICES 500 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:15,014 TO OFFER SO-CALLED DISCOUNTS. 501 00:15:15,014 --> 00:15:17,416 DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. WHAT 502 00:15:17,416 --> 00:15:19,451 THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS LOOPHOLES 503 00:15:19,451 --> 00:15:20,719 THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO RUN THE 504 00:15:20,719 --> 00:15:25,124 SCHEME ON MOST GROCERY STORES, 505 00:15:25,124 --> 00:15:25,691 TRANSITIONS, RENDERING THIS 506 00:15:25,691 --> 00:15:26,725 ORDINANCE USELESS. THIS COUNCIL 507 00:15:26,725 --> 00:15:28,694 SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT AND 508 00:15:28,694 --> 00:15:32,598 APPLIED FAIRLY, NOT SECRETLY 509 00:15:32,598 --> 00:15:34,867 TOLERANT BY ALGORITHMS THAT KNOW 510 00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:35,534 MORE ABOUT MY PERSONAL HABITS 511 00:15:35,534 --> 00:15:37,569 THAN MY FAMILY DOES. PLEASE PASS 512 00:15:37,569 --> 00:15:39,905 THIS ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN 513 00:15:39,905 --> 00:15:41,874 WITHOUT CORPORATE AMENDMENTS. 514 00:15:41,874 --> 00:15:42,474 SEATTLE FAMILIES AND SEATTLE 515 00:15:42,474 --> 00:15:44,176 WORKERS DESERVE TO KNOW WE'RE 516 00:15:44,176 --> 00:15:46,812 ALL PAYING THE SAME PRICES FOR 517 00:15:46,812 --> 00:15:52,851 THE SAME THINGS. THANK YOU. 518 00:15:52,851 --> 00:15:54,353 -- YEAH. 519 00:15:54,353 --> 00:15:56,188 -- [APPLAUSE] 520 00:15:56,188 --> 00:15:56,889 -- THANK YOU. KRISTEN LUM. 521 00:15:56,889 --> 00:15:57,823 -- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY 522 00:15:57,823 --> 00:15:58,590 NAME IS LIAM HOE AND I AM THE 523 00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:00,726 GENERAL MANAGER FOR THE TRANSIT 524 00:16:00,726 --> 00:16:03,696 RIDERS UNION, AS WELL AS ONE OF 525 00:16:03,696 --> 00:16:04,363 THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE STATE HOUSE 526 00:16:04,363 --> 00:16:05,497 STAY HEALTHY COALITION. I WANT 527 00:16:05,497 --> 00:16:07,366 TO FIRST START BY THANKING YOU 528 00:16:07,366 --> 00:16:09,001 BECAUSE I HAVE NOT HAD THE 529 00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:11,370 OPPORTUNITY TO THANK 530 00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:11,971 COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER AND THE 531 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:13,539 ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR PASSING SUCH 532 00:16:13,539 --> 00:16:16,041 A STRONG JUNK FEES BAN 533 00:16:16,041 --> 00:16:19,244 LEGISLATION WHICH PROVIDED 534 00:16:19,244 --> 00:16:21,580 FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY AND 535 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:22,214 ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FAMILIES WHO 536 00:16:22,214 --> 00:16:23,649 ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY IN THEIR 537 00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:25,351 HOMES OR EVEN FIND THEM. AND SO 538 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:27,619 I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOU TO DO 539 00:16:27,619 --> 00:16:28,587 THE SAME FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE 540 00:16:28,587 --> 00:16:31,023 STRUGGLING TO PUT FOOD ON THEIR 541 00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:32,991 TABLES, AND THEY ARE REALLY 542 00:16:32,991 --> 00:16:35,361 STRUGGLING. IN THE RECENT FOOD 543 00:16:35,361 --> 00:16:37,896 WASHINGTON SURVEY, WHICH COVERS 544 00:16:37,896 --> 00:16:41,200 2026, THE FIRST QUARTER, 48% OF 545 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,602 HOUSEHOLDS, THAT'S ALMOST HALF 546 00:16:43,602 --> 00:16:44,103 OF HOUSEHOLDS USED FOOD 547 00:16:44,103 --> 00:16:48,006 ASSISTANCE IN THE PAST MONTH, 548 00:16:48,006 --> 00:16:50,843 69% OF FOOD INSECURE HOUSEHOLDS 549 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:52,478 REPORTED REDUCING THE QUANTITY 550 00:16:52,478 --> 00:16:53,479 AND QUALITY OF FOOD THAT THEY 551 00:16:53,479 --> 00:16:56,582 EAT BECAUSE OF RISING PRICES. 552 00:16:56,582 --> 00:16:58,684 EVEN HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 75,000 553 00:16:58,684 --> 00:17:01,920 TO 150,000 SAW A 25% FOOD 554 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,957 INSECURITY RATE. FAMILIES ACROSS 555 00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:06,859 OUR STATE ARE STRUGGLING TO PUT 556 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:09,028 FOOD ON THE TABLE, SO WE NEED 557 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:11,697 THE FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PRICING 558 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:14,066 ORDINANCE NOW. EVERYONE NEEDS TO 559 00:17:14,066 --> 00:17:16,168 EAT THIS BILL PRIORITIZES 560 00:17:16,168 --> 00:17:18,670 HEALTH, WELLNESS AND FAIRNESS 561 00:17:18,670 --> 00:17:20,739 OVER OPAQUE CORPORATE PROFIT 562 00:17:20,739 --> 00:17:23,342 MODELS BY PROTECTING SEATTLE 563 00:17:23,342 --> 00:17:23,876 FAMILIES FROM ALGORITHMIC 564 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:26,612 PRICING THAT USES PERSONAL DATA 565 00:17:26,612 --> 00:17:29,214 TO CHANGE THE PRICE, EVEN FOR 566 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:31,016 TWO SHOPPERS SHOPPING THE SAME 567 00:17:31,016 --> 00:17:34,486 AISLE. IT ALSO PROTECTS SMALL 568 00:17:34,486 --> 00:17:36,889 AND LOCAL RETAILERS BY 569 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:38,857 PREVENTING THE BIG CHAINS FROM 570 00:17:38,857 --> 00:17:39,458 BASICALLY USING SURVEILLANCE 571 00:17:39,458 --> 00:17:40,759 PRICING TO UNDERCUT THEM TO 572 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:44,463 DRIVE THEM OUT OF BUSINESS AND 573 00:17:44,463 --> 00:17:45,764 THEN LEAVE CONSUMERS WITH NO 574 00:17:45,764 --> 00:17:48,067 OPTIONS. BESIDES THE PRICE 575 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,035 GOUGING THAT THE CORPORATE 576 00:17:50,035 --> 00:17:51,303 CHAINS ARE USING. THANK YOU SO 577 00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:53,405 MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. PLEASE PASS 578 00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:56,542 THIS ORDINANCE WITHOUT ANY 579 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:57,009 CORPORATE AMENDMENTS. 580 00:17:57,009 --> 00:18:01,880 -- [APPLAUSE] 581 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,483 -- THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL HEAR 582 00:18:04,483 --> 00:18:08,053 FROM MAYA MORALES, FOLLOWED BY 583 00:18:08,053 --> 00:18:11,223 DUSTIN LAMBRO. 584 00:18:11,223 --> 00:18:13,025 -- GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD 585 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:14,226 MORNING COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO 586 00:18:14,226 --> 00:18:15,961 SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE 587 00:18:15,961 --> 00:18:17,830 FAIR PRICING ORDINANCE. I WANT 588 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:20,032 TO FIRST SAY THAT I'M REALLY 589 00:18:20,032 --> 00:18:21,133 PROUD OF OF BOTH THE MAYOR'S 590 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,267 OFFICE AND THE COUNCIL FOR 591 00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:26,438 TAKING THIS UP. IT AS YOU KNOW, 592 00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:28,040 GROCERY WORKERS, EVERYONE REALLY 593 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,876 HERE WHO BUYS GROCERIES AND CAN 594 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:31,543 SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT IT'S 595 00:18:31,543 --> 00:18:34,580 GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE AS WELL AS 596 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:37,449 HOUSING ORGANIZERS, ALL OF US 597 00:18:37,449 --> 00:18:39,418 CAN REALLY RELATE TO THE FACT 598 00:18:39,418 --> 00:18:40,752 THAT OUR GROCERIES ARE BECOMING 599 00:18:40,752 --> 00:18:42,287 LESS AFFORDABLE. AND SO THIS IS 600 00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:43,789 SO COMMON SENSE. THANK YOU SO 601 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:46,391 MUCH FOR SPONSORING THIS. I WANT 602 00:18:46,391 --> 00:18:50,963 TO JUST ADDRESS A FEW THINGS. IT 603 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:54,099 IS NOT COMPLEX TO OFFER BASIC 604 00:18:54,099 --> 00:18:55,134 DISCOUNTS. THAT IS, THAT IS NOT 605 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:55,868 SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE 606 00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:58,437 COMPLEX. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR 607 00:18:58,437 --> 00:19:00,706 YEARS. BEFORE WE HAD AI POWERED 608 00:19:00,706 --> 00:19:02,174 TECH. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT 609 00:19:02,174 --> 00:19:03,175 WAS TOTALLY ATTAINABLE FOR 610 00:19:03,175 --> 00:19:04,776 GROCERY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO 611 00:19:04,776 --> 00:19:05,978 KIND OF DEBUNK THAT A LITTLE 612 00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,146 BIT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, 613 00:19:08,146 --> 00:19:11,950 YOU KNOW, WOULD THIS ORDINANCE 614 00:19:11,950 --> 00:19:13,385 OFFER SHOPPERS FEWER DEALS OR 615 00:19:13,385 --> 00:19:16,488 FEWER SCAM DEALS WHERE THE PRICE 616 00:19:16,488 --> 00:19:17,489 HAS BEEN INFLATED, AND THEN 617 00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:19,091 YOU'RE GIVEN A SORT OF FAKE 618 00:19:19,091 --> 00:19:20,893 DISCOUNT? I DON'T FEEL LIKE 619 00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:21,593 THAT'S WHAT SHOPPERS DESERVE. I 620 00:19:21,593 --> 00:19:24,263 THINK WE DESERVE TRANSPARENCY, 621 00:19:24,263 --> 00:19:26,665 ACCOUNTABILITY, FAIRNESS AND 622 00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:28,667 NONDISCRIMINATORY PRICING. WE 623 00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:30,936 DON'T WANT TO HAVE PERSONALIZED 624 00:19:30,936 --> 00:19:31,670 PRICING. AND THEN THE LAST NOTE 625 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:37,009 IS, I WANT TO SAY THAT REMINDER 626 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:37,643 PAST PURCHASE HISTORY IS ALLOWED 627 00:19:37,643 --> 00:19:40,012 IN THIS ORDINANCE. AND SO IF YOU 628 00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:42,481 BUY TOILET PAPER A BUNCH OF 629 00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:43,081 TIMES THAT COUPON TO GET A 630 00:19:43,081 --> 00:19:44,683 DISCOUNT OFF THAT TOILET PAPER 631 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:47,553 IS ALLOWED. LASTLY, I WANT TO 632 00:19:47,553 --> 00:19:50,756 SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 633 00:19:50,756 --> 00:19:51,356 ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE TECH 634 00:19:51,356 --> 00:19:52,357 DEFINITION IN THIS ORDINANCE. IT 635 00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:55,093 IS PART OF WHAT MAKES IT ONE OF 636 00:19:55,093 --> 00:19:55,694 THE STRONGEST ORDINANCES THAT 637 00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:56,562 WE'VE SEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. IT 638 00:19:56,562 --> 00:19:59,231 IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE 639 00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:00,399 ON THE PRECIPICE OF EMERGING 640 00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:02,401 TECH. THERE IS TECH THAT IS ABLE 641 00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:04,503 TO MEASURE. THINGS ABOUT OUR 642 00:20:04,503 --> 00:20:06,672 BODIES, ABOUT OUR HEART RATE, 643 00:20:06,672 --> 00:20:08,240 ABOUT OUR EYE MOVEMENTS. IT'S 644 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,076 REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THAT DATA 645 00:20:11,076 --> 00:20:13,045 IS NOT USED TO SET PRICES. THANK 646 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:15,948 YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. 647 00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:20,285 -- [APPLAUSE] 648 00:20:20,285 --> 00:20:22,254 -- ALL RIGHT. AND OUR LAST 649 00:20:22,254 --> 00:20:22,888 IN-PERSON SPEAKER IS DUSTIN. AND 650 00:20:22,888 --> 00:20:25,123 THEN WE'LL BE MOVING ONLINE. 651 00:20:25,123 --> 00:20:25,791 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 652 00:20:25,791 --> 00:20:26,992 I'M DUSTIN LAMBRO HERE TODAY 653 00:20:26,992 --> 00:20:30,996 WITH UFCW W 3000. I SENT EACH OF 654 00:20:30,996 --> 00:20:33,432 YOU AN EMAIL THIS MORNING, 655 00:20:33,432 --> 00:20:34,499 LAYING OUT OUR POSITION IN A 656 00:20:34,499 --> 00:20:36,034 LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT WANT 657 00:20:36,034 --> 00:20:41,940 TO EMPHASIZE THREE IMPORTANT 658 00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:44,843 SAFEGUARDS. AS YOU CONSIDER 659 00:20:44,843 --> 00:20:45,444 POTENTIAL AMENDMENT CONCEPTS. 660 00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:46,878 FIRST, PRESERVING THE BONA FIDE 661 00:20:46,878 --> 00:20:50,983 MARKET PRICE STANDARD WITHOUT AN 662 00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:53,318 OBJECTIVE BASELINE, A RETAILER 663 00:20:53,318 --> 00:20:55,487 COULD AND WOULD INFLATE THE 664 00:20:55,487 --> 00:20:58,023 SUPPOSED REGULAR PRICE, GIVE 665 00:20:58,023 --> 00:21:00,459 DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS DIFFERENT 666 00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:03,362 PERSONALIZED QUOTE DISCOUNTS, 667 00:21:03,362 --> 00:21:03,962 AND CLAIM EVERYONE RECEIVED A 668 00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:08,767 BARGAIN. SECOND, PRESERVE THE 669 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:11,870 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION. CENTRAL 670 00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:12,471 STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THESE 671 00:21:12,471 --> 00:21:14,773 INVESTIGATIONS MAY REQUIRE 672 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:15,641 ANALYZING LARGE VOLUMES OF DATA, 673 00:21:15,641 --> 00:21:17,242 AND THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY 674 00:21:17,242 --> 00:21:21,313 NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY 675 00:21:21,313 --> 00:21:25,083 YET. NO ADDITIONAL FISCAL 676 00:21:25,083 --> 00:21:26,985 RESOURCES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. 677 00:21:26,985 --> 00:21:29,588 CITY ENFORCEMENT ALONE IS 678 00:21:29,588 --> 00:21:32,224 THEREFORE NOT ENOUGH. AND 679 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:35,827 FINALLY, DO NOT CREATE A CURE 680 00:21:35,827 --> 00:21:36,561 PERIOD THAT LETS A COMPANY 681 00:21:36,561 --> 00:21:39,998 REFUND THE ONE CUSTOMER WHO 682 00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:41,667 CATCHES A VIOLATION WHILE 683 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:44,303 IGNORING EVERYBODY ELSE WHO 684 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,238 DIDN'T CATCH THAT VIOLATION AND 685 00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:49,307 WAS OTHERWISE AFFECTED BY THE 686 00:21:49,307 --> 00:21:51,677 ALGORITHM. AS AMENDMENT LANGUAGE 687 00:21:51,677 --> 00:21:54,246 IS A AS CONSIDERED HERE AND 688 00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:57,049 BETWEEN THE NEXT BETWEEN NOW AND 689 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,117 THE NEXT MEETING, URGE YOU TO 690 00:21:59,117 --> 00:22:02,287 APPLY ONE CENTRAL, ONE CENTRAL 691 00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:04,256 TEST. WOULD THIS CHANGE ALLOW 692 00:22:04,256 --> 00:22:06,124 TWO CUSTOMERS BUYING THE SAME 693 00:22:06,124 --> 00:22:06,758 PRODUCT FROM THE SAME RETAILER 694 00:22:06,758 --> 00:22:09,094 UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS, TO 695 00:22:09,094 --> 00:22:12,064 PAY DIFFERENT FINAL PRICES 696 00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:14,900 BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSONAL 697 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:15,434 INFORMATION OR PREDICTED 698 00:22:15,434 --> 00:22:18,670 BEHAVIOR? PLEASE DISTINGUISH 699 00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:20,639 AMENDMENTS THAT CLEARLY THAT 700 00:22:20,639 --> 00:22:22,708 CLARIFY THAT ORDINANCE FROM 701 00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:24,743 THOSE THAT MAKE ITS PROTECTIONS 702 00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:27,212 IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE. THANK YOU 703 00:22:27,212 --> 00:22:27,479 SO MUCH. 704 00:22:27,479 --> 00:22:33,785 -- [APPLAUSE] 705 00:22:33,785 --> 00:22:34,920 -- THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE 706 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,589 TO OUR REMOTE SPEAKERS. 707 00:22:37,589 --> 00:22:39,858 -- THE FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS 708 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:41,693 AMY HARRIS. PLEASE PRESS STAR 709 00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:50,902 SIX WHEN YOU HAVE TO BE UNMUTED 710 00:22:50,902 --> 00:22:52,838 -- MERCEDES RINCK AND COMMITTEE. 711 00:22:52,838 --> 00:22:53,372 MY NAME IS AMY HARRIS, 712 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:54,506 TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE 713 00:22:54,506 --> 00:22:55,140 WASHINGTON TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY 714 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,709 ALLIANCE, REPRESENTING NEARLY 715 00:22:57,709 --> 00:22:59,611 800 TECH COMPANIES IN SEATTLE 716 00:22:59,611 --> 00:23:00,912 AND ACROSS WASHINGTON STATE. THE 717 00:23:00,912 --> 00:23:02,347 LAST COMMITTEE. WE HAVE A NUMBER 718 00:23:02,347 --> 00:23:03,482 OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED 719 00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:05,117 PRICING ORDINANCE, AND ITS AND 720 00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:07,252 ITS IMPACT ON CONSUMERS AND 721 00:23:07,252 --> 00:23:08,053 BUSINESSES IN SEATTLE. IN SHORT, 722 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:10,489 THIS PROPOSAL WOULD EXACERBATE 723 00:23:10,489 --> 00:23:12,624 SEATTLE'S AFFORDABILITY CRISIS 724 00:23:12,624 --> 00:23:15,894 AND HARM THE CITY'S RETAILERS, 725 00:23:15,894 --> 00:23:16,828 ESPECIALLY GROCERS. AS DRAFTED, 726 00:23:16,828 --> 00:23:18,230 THE ORDINANCE WOULD REDUCE 727 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,031 CUSTOMER SAVINGS, NOT PROTECT 728 00:23:20,031 --> 00:23:21,533 THEM. CUSTOMERS RELY ON FUEL 729 00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:23,268 DISCOUNTS, DIGITAL COUPONS, 730 00:23:23,268 --> 00:23:25,036 PERSONALIZED PROMOTIONS AND 731 00:23:25,036 --> 00:23:26,204 REWARDS TO SAVE MONEY. THE CARVE 732 00:23:26,204 --> 00:23:28,573 OUTS IN THE ORDINANCE ARE SO 733 00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:29,808 NARROW THEY EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT 734 00:23:29,808 --> 00:23:32,511 OR DISCOURAGE THESE MUCH LOVED 735 00:23:32,511 --> 00:23:33,879 CONSUMER PROGRAMS. IT ALSO ADDS 736 00:23:33,879 --> 00:23:34,413 SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES FOR 737 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:36,848 BUSINESSES AND WOULD POTENTIALLY 738 00:23:36,848 --> 00:23:38,216 REQUIRE DISCLOSURE OF 739 00:23:38,216 --> 00:23:38,717 COMPETITIVELY SENSITIVE 740 00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:40,218 INFORMATION, WHICH MAY LEAD 741 00:23:40,218 --> 00:23:42,254 GROCERS AND OTHER RETAILERS TO 742 00:23:42,254 --> 00:23:44,256 FORGO THESE PROGRAMS ENTIRELY. 743 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:45,390 AS A RESULT, SHOPPERS WOULD FACE 744 00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:47,659 A SHORTAGE OF CRITICAL MONEY 745 00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:50,162 SAVING OPTIONS. MERCHANTS WOULD 746 00:23:50,162 --> 00:23:52,464 BE DEPRIVED OF VITAL CHANCES TO 747 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:53,732 FOSTER CUSTOMER LOYALTY AND 748 00:23:53,732 --> 00:23:55,767 ENCOURAGE REPEAT BUSINESS. IT IS 749 00:23:55,767 --> 00:23:56,902 EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN SEATTLE. IT 750 00:23:56,902 --> 00:23:58,770 IS ALREADY THE MOST EXPENSIVE 751 00:23:58,770 --> 00:24:00,205 CITY IN THE COUNTRY FOR DELIVERY 752 00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:02,941 RIGHT NOW. SEATTLE CONSUMERS 753 00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:03,708 NEED MORE TOOLS TO MAKE ENDS 754 00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:06,077 MEET. RETAILERS AND GROCERS NEED 755 00:24:06,077 --> 00:24:07,479 PROGRAMS THAT ENCOURAGE 756 00:24:07,479 --> 00:24:08,113 CUSTOMERS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO 757 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:10,115 SHOP IN THEIR STORES. 758 00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:10,715 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ORDINANCE 759 00:24:10,715 --> 00:24:12,250 REMOVES THOSE OPTIONS WHEN THEY 760 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:13,685 ARE NEEDED MOST BY SHOPPERS AND 761 00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:14,319 RETAILERS ALIKE. THANK YOU SO 762 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:20,125 MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. 763 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:22,761 -- NEXT, WE HAVE LARS ERICKSON. 764 00:24:22,761 --> 00:24:23,829 PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO BE 765 00:24:23,829 --> 00:24:30,268 UNMUTED 766 00:24:30,268 --> 00:24:32,137 -- GOOD MORNING. CHAIR RINCK AND 767 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:33,672 COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS LARS 768 00:24:33,672 --> 00:24:35,473 ERICKSON. I'M REPRESENTING THE 769 00:24:35,473 --> 00:24:37,142 MORE THAN 2600 MEMBERS OF THE 770 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:39,511 SEATTLE METRO CHAMBER REGARDING 771 00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:40,045 THE SURVEILLANCE PRICING 772 00:24:40,045 --> 00:24:42,948 ORDINANCE. WE SHARE THE GOAL OF 773 00:24:42,948 --> 00:24:43,515 PROTECTING CONSUMERS. IF A 774 00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:45,317 RETAILER IS USING PERSONAL 775 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:46,318 INFORMATION TO CHARGE SOMEONE 776 00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:48,353 MORE, THAT PRACTICE SHOULD BE 777 00:24:48,353 --> 00:24:50,088 ADDRESSED. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS 778 00:24:50,088 --> 00:24:52,490 THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS 779 00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:53,024 CURRENTLY DRAFTED CREATES 780 00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:54,693 SIGNIFICANT COMPLIANCE COSTS AND 781 00:24:54,693 --> 00:24:56,228 LEGAL RISK FOR GROCERS AND 782 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:58,296 RETAILERS THAT OFFER DISCOUNTS, 783 00:24:58,296 --> 00:25:01,633 LOYALTY PROGRAMS AND FUEL 784 00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:03,602 REWARDS THAT MANY SEATTLE 785 00:25:03,602 --> 00:25:04,936 FAMILIES DEPEND ON DURING AN 786 00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,338 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. THE LIKELY 787 00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:07,739 OUTCOME IS FEWER DISCOUNTS, 788 00:25:07,739 --> 00:25:09,374 HIGHER GROCERY COSTS, AND 789 00:25:09,374 --> 00:25:11,476 REDUCED INCENTIVES FOR RETAILERS 790 00:25:11,476 --> 00:25:13,411 TO INVEST IN COMMUNITIES THAT 791 00:25:13,411 --> 00:25:14,946 ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH ACCESS TO 792 00:25:14,946 --> 00:25:17,082 GROCERY STORES AND PHARMACIES. 793 00:25:17,082 --> 00:25:19,084 PRICE DIFFERENCES ALONE ARE NOT 794 00:25:19,084 --> 00:25:19,618 EVIDENCE OF SURVEILLANCE 795 00:25:19,618 --> 00:25:21,553 PRICING. PRICES VARY FOR MANY 796 00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:22,787 LEGITIMATE REASONS, INCLUDING 797 00:25:22,787 --> 00:25:24,623 PROMOTIONS, INVENTORY, DELIVERY 798 00:25:24,623 --> 00:25:26,992 COSTS AND LOCATION. WE SHOULD 799 00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:29,694 NOT ADOPT THE MOST RESTRICTIVE 800 00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:30,762 ORDINANCE IN THE COUNTRY TO 801 00:25:30,762 --> 00:25:32,430 SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT HAS NOT 802 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:33,698 BEEN DEMONSTRATED TO EXIST IN 803 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:36,201 SEATTLE, WE URGE THE COUNCIL TO 804 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,969 NARROW THE LEGISLATION TO FOCUS 805 00:25:37,969 --> 00:25:39,437 ON ACTUAL PRICE INCREASES, 806 00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:40,372 REMOVE THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF 807 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,641 ACTION AND CONTINUE WORKING WITH 808 00:25:42,641 --> 00:25:44,609 GROCERS AND RETAILERS TO DEVELOP 809 00:25:44,609 --> 00:25:46,511 A BALANCED APPROACH THAT 810 00:25:46,511 --> 00:25:48,914 PROTECTS CONSUMERS WITHOUT 811 00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:49,548 INCREASING COSTS. THANK YOU FOR 812 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:55,954 YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 813 00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:56,755 -- THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TRAVIS 814 00:25:56,755 --> 00:26:00,058 HALL. PRESS STAR SIX TO BE 815 00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:08,066 UNMUTED. 816 00:26:08,199 --> 00:26:10,201 WILL COME BACK TO TRAVIS. THE 817 00:26:10,201 --> 00:26:11,202 NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN PINCUS. 818 00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:12,404 PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO BE 819 00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:18,977 UNMUTED 820 00:26:18,977 --> 00:26:19,644 -- I THINK IT'S FROM THE NEXUS 821 00:26:19,644 --> 00:26:21,212 OF PRIVACY HERE TO SUPPORT THE 822 00:26:21,212 --> 00:26:23,715 FAIR PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 823 00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:25,317 ORDINANCE, AND ALSO TO URGE YOU 824 00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:28,820 TO RESIST INDUSTRY LOBBYISTS 825 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:32,057 PRESSURE TO WEAKEN IT. PLEASE 826 00:26:32,057 --> 00:26:33,592 DON'T ADD ANY APOLOGIES. PLEASE 827 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:34,726 DON'T ADD ANY AMENDMENTS WITH 828 00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:36,995 LOOPHOLES ALLOWING THEM TO FEED 829 00:26:36,995 --> 00:26:37,562 OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO 830 00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:40,332 BLACK BOX ALGORITHMS. TO, QUOTE, 831 00:26:40,332 --> 00:26:41,333 OPTIMIZE PRICING, UNQUOTE, BY 832 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:42,801 CHARGING SOME PEOPLE MORE THAN 833 00:26:42,801 --> 00:26:44,636 OTHERS FOR THE SAME ITEM. AND 834 00:26:44,636 --> 00:26:47,572 JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, PLEASE DO 835 00:26:47,572 --> 00:26:48,373 NOT WEAKEN ENFORCEMENT. A STRONG 836 00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:51,209 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IS 837 00:26:51,209 --> 00:26:53,078 VITAL. LARGE CORPORATIONS ARE 838 00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:53,712 EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO TAKE ON. 839 00:26:53,712 --> 00:26:56,615 FOR EXAMPLE, THE STATE ATTORNEY 840 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:57,582 GENERAL SUED META FOR BLATANT 841 00:26:57,582 --> 00:26:59,584 VIOLATIONS OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE 842 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:01,119 LAW IN 2018, AND META STRETCHED 843 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,989 THE CASE OUT UNTIL EARLIER THIS 844 00:27:03,989 --> 00:27:06,891 SUMMER. A FULL EIGHT YEARS WHEN 845 00:27:06,891 --> 00:27:07,492 THE SUPREME COURT UPHELD THE 846 00:27:07,492 --> 00:27:09,027 FINE. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS 847 00:27:09,027 --> 00:27:12,697 LIMITED RESOURCES AND SO WON'T 848 00:27:12,697 --> 00:27:13,832 BE ABLE TO BRING VERY MANY OF 849 00:27:13,832 --> 00:27:15,400 THESE CASES AT ALL WITHOUT A 850 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,167 STRONG, PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION. 851 00:27:16,167 --> 00:27:18,803 LARGE RETAILERS AND DELIVERY 852 00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:19,604 SERVICES HAVE A VERY STRONG 853 00:27:19,604 --> 00:27:20,772 INCENTIVE TO BREAK THE LAW AND 854 00:27:20,772 --> 00:27:23,942 HOPE THAT THEY CAN DODGE 855 00:27:23,942 --> 00:27:25,477 ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE FAIR 856 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:27,645 PRICING TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE 857 00:27:27,645 --> 00:27:28,580 ONLY APPLIES TO LARGE RETAILERS 858 00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:31,082 AND DELIVERY SERVICES, SO 859 00:27:31,082 --> 00:27:31,750 THERE'S NO RISK OF THE PRIVATE 860 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:32,884 RIGHT OF ACTION UNINTENTIONALLY 861 00:27:32,884 --> 00:27:34,619 HARMING SMALL FAMILY BUSINESSES. 862 00:27:34,619 --> 00:27:37,589 THEY AREN'T EVEN COVERED 863 00:27:37,589 --> 00:27:38,390 ENTITIES HERE. OF COURSE, 864 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:39,457 LOBBYISTS WILL CLAIM THAT A 865 00:27:39,457 --> 00:27:40,825 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION WILL 866 00:27:40,825 --> 00:27:42,227 CAUSE THE SKY TO FALL. AND 867 00:27:42,227 --> 00:27:44,095 THEY'LL SAY, OH, WE HAVE TO 868 00:27:44,095 --> 00:27:45,530 HAVE A RIGHT TO CURE TO MAKE UP 869 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:47,265 FOR THESE WITHOUT BEING HELD 870 00:27:47,265 --> 00:27:48,566 ACCOUNTABLE. THEY ALWAYS SAY 871 00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:51,603 THAT IN 2022, THEY MADE SIMILAR 872 00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:52,103 ARGUMENTS IN THE STATE 873 00:27:52,103 --> 00:27:53,538 LEGISLATURE WITH THE PRIVATE 874 00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:55,006 RIGHT OF ACTION IN MY HEALTH, MY 875 00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:56,908 DATA. AND GUESS WHAT? THE SKY 876 00:27:56,908 --> 00:28:01,579 HASN'T FALLEN. SO PLEASE IGNORE 877 00:28:01,579 --> 00:28:02,113 LOBBYISTS IN AND KEEP THE 878 00:28:02,113 --> 00:28:03,381 ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS AND THE 879 00:28:03,381 --> 00:28:04,416 REST OF THE ORDINANCE AS STRONG 880 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,284 AS POSSIBLE. THE SEATTLE 881 00:28:06,284 --> 00:28:10,422 FAMILIES NEED FOOD SECURITY AND 882 00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:14,559 THE PRICE OF GROCERIES IS OUT OF 883 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,529 CONTROL. THANK YOU. 884 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:23,735 -- [APPLAUSE] 885 00:28:23,735 --> 00:28:24,436 -- TRAVIS HALL, PLEASE PRESS 886 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:31,309 STAR SIX TO BE UNMUTED. 887 00:28:31,309 --> 00:28:33,545 -- HI, MY NAME IS TRAVIS HALL 888 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,714 AND I AM DIALING IN TO TALK 889 00:28:36,714 --> 00:28:38,116 ABOUT THE FAIR PRICING 890 00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:41,753 ORDINANCE. AND I'M CALLING TO IN 891 00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:43,088 FAVOR OF IT. I REPRESENT THE 892 00:28:43,088 --> 00:28:43,688 CENTER FOR DEMOCRACY AND 893 00:28:43,688 --> 00:28:45,857 TECHNOLOGY, A NONPROFIT, 894 00:28:45,857 --> 00:28:46,825 NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION THAT 895 00:28:46,825 --> 00:28:48,893 WORKS TO ADVANCE CIVIL RIGHTS 896 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:49,461 AND CIVIL LIBERTIES IN THE 897 00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:51,696 DIGITAL AGE FOR EVERYONE. THE 898 00:28:51,696 --> 00:28:52,864 DIGITAL COLLECTION, SORTING AND 899 00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:54,666 PROCESSING AND SELLING OF VAST 900 00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:56,634 AMOUNTS OF PERSONAL DATA HAS 901 00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:57,202 ENABLED BUSINESSES AND DATA 902 00:28:57,202 --> 00:28:58,336 BROKERS WHO SERVED THEM TO 903 00:28:58,336 --> 00:29:00,004 CREATE INTIMATE PORTRAITS OF 904 00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:00,805 INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS AND NOT TO 905 00:29:00,805 --> 00:29:04,142 THEIR BENEFIT, AND SURVEILLANCE 906 00:29:04,142 --> 00:29:05,443 PRICING IS TRULY A RANK 907 00:29:05,443 --> 00:29:07,278 ABANDONMENT OF TRANSPARENT LIST 908 00:29:07,278 --> 00:29:08,880 PRICE APPROACH TO SERVE 909 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,981 CUSTOMERS WELL AND IS JUSTIFIED. 910 00:29:09,981 --> 00:29:12,417 FREE ENTERPRISE IS THE BEST, 911 00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:14,452 BENEFITING CONSUMERS IN THE 912 00:29:14,452 --> 00:29:18,223 ECONOMY. THE ORDINANCE AT HAND 913 00:29:18,223 --> 00:29:20,158 RIGHTLY ADDRESSES DISCOUNTS AND 914 00:29:20,158 --> 00:29:21,493 EXEMPTS THEM. AND I JUST WANT TO 915 00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:24,596 BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR HERE THAT 916 00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:27,599 WHEN THERE IS NO SET PRICE AND 917 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,168 THE PRICE IS NOT TRANSPARENT AND 918 00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:32,437 STABLE, DISCOUNTS BECOME 919 00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,172 MEANINGLESS. AND ULTIMATELY WHAT 920 00:29:34,172 --> 00:29:38,042 THIS CREATES IS VAST INFORMATION 921 00:29:38,042 --> 00:29:39,811 ASYMMETRY WHERE WHERE RETAILERS 922 00:29:39,811 --> 00:29:40,778 AND STORES ARE ABLE TO KNOW 923 00:29:40,778 --> 00:29:41,813 ABOUT AND SET PRICES ABOUT THEIR 924 00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:44,015 CONSUMERS, FOR THEIR CONSUMERS 925 00:29:44,015 --> 00:29:44,782 BASED ON, AGAIN, THIS VAST 926 00:29:44,782 --> 00:29:47,685 AMOUNT OF PERSONAL INFORMATION. 927 00:29:47,685 --> 00:29:48,319 WHEREAS THE CONSUMERS THEMSELVES 928 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:48,920 ARE NOT IN THAT POSITION. IT 929 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,189 ALSO CREATES AN INFORMATION 930 00:29:51,189 --> 00:29:53,358 ASYMMETRY BETWEEN LARGE CHAINS 931 00:29:53,358 --> 00:29:54,993 WHO WHO ARE ABLE TO HAVE THE 932 00:29:54,993 --> 00:29:56,928 RESOURCES TO ACCESS THIS 933 00:29:56,928 --> 00:29:57,896 INFORMATION AND USE THESE TOOLS 934 00:29:57,896 --> 00:29:59,864 IN ORDER TO SET INDIVIDUAL 935 00:29:59,864 --> 00:30:02,400 PRICES, WHICH CREATES A MASSIVE 936 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,869 DISADVANTAGE FOR LOCAL OR 937 00:30:04,869 --> 00:30:06,304 SMALLER ENTITIES FOR WHOM THEY 938 00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:08,506 ARE, YOU KNOW, USING MORE 939 00:30:08,506 --> 00:30:11,075 TRADITIONAL DISCOUNTS OR MORE 940 00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:12,744 REGULAR DISCOUNTS. THE ORDINANCE 941 00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:15,046 DOES A GREAT JOB OF EXEMPTING 942 00:30:15,046 --> 00:30:17,282 OUT ACTUAL DISCOUNTS WHILE 943 00:30:17,282 --> 00:30:19,884 PROHIBITING THE PRACTICE OF 944 00:30:19,884 --> 00:30:21,085 SETTING INDIVIDUALIZED PRICING. 945 00:30:21,085 --> 00:30:22,987 AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR 946 00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:24,656 LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND URGE YOU 947 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:29,360 TO MOVE THIS ORDINANCE FORWARD. 948 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,498 -- [APPLAUSE] 949 00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:37,702 -- NEXT, WE HAVE DAVID HAYNES. 950 00:30:37,702 --> 00:30:44,409 PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX. 951 00:30:44,409 --> 00:30:45,844 -- HI. THANK YOU, DAVID HAINES. 952 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:49,480 IT COULD BE SAID THAT KROGER HAS 953 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,050 ALREADY VIOLATED THE ANTITRUST 954 00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:53,818 MONOPOLIZED SHELF SPACE. WHETHER 955 00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:56,287 IT'S THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS TO 956 00:30:56,287 --> 00:30:56,955 DENY COMPETITORS MOVING IN WHEN 957 00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:59,290 THEY MOVE OUT, YET STILL HAVE A 958 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:00,491 GROCERY STORE IN THE 959 00:31:00,491 --> 00:31:01,726 NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEIR PROFILE IN 960 00:31:01,726 --> 00:31:03,828 US THROUGH THEIR APPS AND 961 00:31:03,828 --> 00:31:07,498 COMBINING QFC WITH FRED MEYER 962 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:09,200 AND THEN ANCHORING SOME OF THEIR 963 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,134 STORES IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD 964 00:31:10,134 --> 00:31:13,605 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRICES ARE 965 00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:15,473 NEVER REASONABLY DROPPED. WHILE 966 00:31:15,473 --> 00:31:16,774 WALL STREET MIDDLEMEN ARE 967 00:31:16,774 --> 00:31:18,977 REPORTING RECORD PROFITS AT OUR 968 00:31:18,977 --> 00:31:21,112 EXPENSE. AND I THINK IT'S 969 00:31:21,112 --> 00:31:24,215 OBVIOUS THAT THE STATE OF 970 00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:25,650 WASHINGTON WAS TARGETED HEAVILY 971 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,318 BY THE EVIL GREED OF KROGER AND 972 00:31:27,318 --> 00:31:29,487 SHOOK THIS STATE DOWN. AND SOME 973 00:31:29,487 --> 00:31:32,023 OF OUR LEADERS. I'M NOT 974 00:31:32,023 --> 00:31:33,224 SUGGESTING COUNCIL, BUT LIKE 975 00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:34,626 MAYBE ON THE STATE LEVEL HAVE 976 00:31:34,626 --> 00:31:35,560 LOOKED THE OTHER WAY ON SOME OF 977 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,496 IT. THEY'VE TOUCHED, YOU KNOW, 978 00:31:38,496 --> 00:31:40,965 ON THIS SUBJECT, BUT THEY 979 00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:43,167 HAVEN'T TRULY ADDRESSED IT AND 980 00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,136 DEALT WITH THE SOPHISTICATED, 981 00:31:45,136 --> 00:31:45,737 MONOPOLIZED SHELF SPACE THAT 982 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:47,105 VIOLATES THAT ANTITRUST, THAT 983 00:31:47,105 --> 00:31:49,307 GOUGES THE LIVING HELL OUT OF 984 00:31:49,307 --> 00:31:49,874 THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND 985 00:31:49,874 --> 00:31:51,910 SHAKES US DOWN AND LEAVES US 986 00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:52,877 DYING OF STARVATION WITH A BELLY 987 00:31:52,877 --> 00:31:56,381 FULL OF JUNK FOOD. ANYWAY, THAT 988 00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:58,616 SAID, I'M MORE UPSET ABOUT THE 989 00:31:58,616 --> 00:32:00,785 FACT THAT WE HAVE A HOMELESS 990 00:32:00,785 --> 00:32:01,819 CRISIS AND THE HUMAN SERVICES 991 00:32:01,819 --> 00:32:02,453 DEPARTMENT IS SPENDING MILLIONS 992 00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:05,223 OF DOLLARS RUNNING INTERFERENCE 993 00:32:05,223 --> 00:32:07,158 FOR CRIMINAL REPEAT OFFENDERS 994 00:32:07,158 --> 00:32:09,394 THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE 995 00:32:09,394 --> 00:32:10,862 UNDERWORLD. DRUG PUSHERS AND 996 00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:12,597 JUNKY THIEVING LOWLIFES WHO 997 00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:15,533 STEAL ALL THE INNOCENT HOMELESS 998 00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:16,234 PEOPLE'S SURVIVAL GEAR. AND YET 999 00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:19,771 WE DON'T HAVE ANY 1000 00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:20,405 ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ANY OF THE 1001 00:32:20,405 --> 00:32:21,973 NONPROFIT SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT 1002 00:32:21,973 --> 00:32:22,573 KING COUNTY REGIONAL HOMELESS 1003 00:32:22,573 --> 00:32:24,342 AUTHORITY WAS SUPPOSED TO KEEP 1004 00:32:24,342 --> 00:32:25,543 HONEST AND FORTHRIGHT AND 1005 00:32:25,543 --> 00:32:28,146 DILIGENT AND PROACTIVE IN 1006 00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:30,114 CONSTRUCTIVELY CRITICIZING IN A 1007 00:32:30,114 --> 00:32:30,848 POSITIVE MANNER TO HELP THEM 1008 00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:33,351 SOLVE THE CRISIS INSTEAD OF A 1009 00:32:33,351 --> 00:32:33,985 SUBHUMAN MISTREATMENT THAT'S 1010 00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:38,589 TAKING PLACE BECAUSE THE 1011 00:32:38,589 --> 00:32:39,157 OVERSIGHT ONLY CARES ABOUT 1012 00:32:39,157 --> 00:32:41,759 MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE GET PAID 1013 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:43,661 THE PADDED COST OF SUBHUMAN, 1014 00:32:43,661 --> 00:32:44,262 MISTREATING INNOCENT PEOPLE. 1015 00:32:44,262 --> 00:32:45,196 THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED A 1016 00:32:45,196 --> 00:32:46,564 LITTLE BIT MORE. LIKE HONESTLY 1017 00:32:46,564 --> 00:32:51,069 AND 1018 00:32:51,069 --> 00:32:55,306 -- NEXT, WE HAVE ALBERTO 1019 00:32:55,306 --> 00:33:03,081 ALVAREZ, PRESS STAR SIX. THERE 1020 00:33:03,081 --> 00:33:03,381 YOU GO. 1021 00:33:03,381 --> 00:33:05,316 -- GOOD MORNING. SURVEILLANCE. 1022 00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:09,620 PRICING AND EXPLOITING CONSUMER 1023 00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:11,522 DATA. THE FACT IS, BUSINESS 1024 00:33:11,522 --> 00:33:13,691 GROUPS HAVE NO INTEREST IN 1025 00:33:13,691 --> 00:33:15,927 SAVING CONSUMERS MONEY. JUST A 1026 00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:19,464 FEW MONTHS AGO, THESE COMPANIES 1027 00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:22,567 RECEIVED MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS 1028 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:25,536 OF TAXPAYER MONEY AS REFUNDS FOR 1029 00:33:25,536 --> 00:33:26,204 THE HIGH TARIFFS OF THE PREVIOUS 1030 00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:29,273 YEAR. NONE OF THAT MONEY WAS 1031 00:33:29,273 --> 00:33:29,874 REFUNDED TO THE CONSUMER, OR 1032 00:33:29,874 --> 00:33:32,610 EVEN USED TO GIVE WORKING STAFF 1033 00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:36,147 A BONUS, LET ALONE BEING USED TO 1034 00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:37,048 ALLEVIATE THE PRICE INCREASES 1035 00:33:37,048 --> 00:33:42,887 DUE TO THE WAR IN IRAN. THE 1036 00:33:42,887 --> 00:33:43,488 LEGISLATION TODAY FOR GROCERY 1037 00:33:43,488 --> 00:33:44,322 AFFORDABILITY IS A GREAT MOVE 1038 00:33:44,322 --> 00:33:49,093 FOR OUR CITY. PLEASE MAKE NO 1039 00:33:49,093 --> 00:33:51,863 AMENDMENTS OR CARVE OUTS OR ONES 1040 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:52,864 THAT FAVOR CORPORATIONS TO 1041 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,732 EXPLOIT PERSONAL INFORMATION. 1042 00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:58,603 THANK YOU ALL AND HAVE A GOOD 1043 00:33:58,603 --> 00:33:58,803 DAY. 1044 00:33:58,803 --> 00:34:05,276 -- [APPLAUSE] 1045 00:34:05,276 --> 00:34:07,378 -- THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO 1046 00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:08,012 ADDITIONAL REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 1047 00:34:08,012 --> 00:34:08,980 AND WITH THAT WE WILL NOW 1048 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:09,814 PROCEED TO OUR ITEMS OF 1049 00:34:09,814 --> 00:34:12,050 BUSINESS. AND I WANT TO THANK 1050 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,451 EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TODAY TO 1051 00:34:13,451 --> 00:34:15,019 PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. TRULY 1052 00:34:15,019 --> 00:34:15,620 APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT IN 1053 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:18,623 LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WITH THAT, 1054 00:34:18,623 --> 00:34:20,091 MOVING TO OUR FIRST ITEM OF 1055 00:34:20,091 --> 00:34:20,758 BUSINESS, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE 1056 00:34:20,758 --> 00:34:26,030 READ ITEM ONE INTO THE RECORD 1057 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:26,264 -- ONE. 1058 00:34:26,264 --> 00:34:27,765 -- ITEM ONE COUNCIL BILL ONE, 1059 00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:30,401 TWO, 1270. AN ORDINANCE RELATING 1060 00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:32,003 TO THE BALLARD BUSINESS 1061 00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:34,872 IMPROVEMENT AREA AMENDING 1062 00:34:34,872 --> 00:34:38,276 SECTION SIX OF ORDINANCE 126911 1063 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:38,810 TO CLARIFY PROVISIONS ON 1064 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:41,012 ASSESSMENT ESCALATIONS FOR 1065 00:34:41,012 --> 00:34:43,114 PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND 1066 00:34:43,114 --> 00:34:43,481 POSSIBLE VOTE. 1067 00:34:43,481 --> 00:34:44,615 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AS OUR 1068 00:34:44,615 --> 00:34:45,249 PRESENTERS ARE GETTING SETTLED 1069 00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:46,851 IN AT THE TABLE, I WILL NOTE, 1070 00:34:46,851 --> 00:34:48,319 COLLEAGUES, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO 1071 00:34:48,319 --> 00:34:48,953 THE PRESENTATION, I WANT TO NOTE 1072 00:34:48,953 --> 00:34:51,055 AT THE TOP THAT WHILE A PUBLIC 1073 00:34:51,055 --> 00:34:52,123 HEARING FOR THIS KIND OF 1074 00:34:52,123 --> 00:34:53,891 TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO THE 1075 00:34:53,891 --> 00:34:56,260 ORDINANCE IS NOT TECHNICALLY 1076 00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:57,428 LEGALLY REQUIRED, WE FEEL IT'S 1077 00:34:57,428 --> 00:34:59,263 GOOD GOVERNANCE TO HEAR FROM 1078 00:34:59,263 --> 00:35:00,765 FOLKS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY EVEN 1079 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,033 SMALL CHANGES TO BIAS. SO THERE 1080 00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:05,670 WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING OPENED 1081 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:06,370 UP FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION, 1082 00:35:06,370 --> 00:35:08,840 AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE 1083 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,407 TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK TO THE 1084 00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:10,875 PROPOSED TECHNICAL EDIT TO THE 1085 00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:12,643 BALLARD BIGHAS ORDINANCE, 1086 00:35:12,643 --> 00:35:15,513 CLARIFYING THE LANGUAGE TO 1087 00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:16,147 ENSURE CONSISTENT, PREDICTABLE 1088 00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:18,216 IMPLEMENTATION ON INFLATIONARY 1089 00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:19,350 ADJUSTMENTS AND FOLLOWING THE 1090 00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:20,751 PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL VOTE ON 1091 00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:25,556 THE ORDINANCE TODAY. 1092 00:35:25,556 --> 00:35:31,896 -- GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING 1093 00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:34,499 OKAY, SO I SHOULD. 1094 00:35:34,499 --> 00:35:40,171 -- JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND HERE 1095 00:35:40,171 --> 00:35:50,515 -- OKAY. YEAH. SO. 1096 00:35:54,852 --> 00:36:03,861 HERE. 1097 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:14,472 YEAH. I WAS THINKING YOU. NO IT 1098 00:36:23,648 --> 00:36:23,814 IS. 1099 00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:28,119 -- YEAH. NO, REALLY? HURRY. 1100 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:28,419 SOMEWHERE. 1101 00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:29,020 -- AND THERE WAS A DAUGHTER, 1102 00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:31,022 RIGHT. FOR THIS ONE. THANK YOU 1103 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:41,232 FOR TAKING. 1104 00:36:42,733 --> 00:36:45,803 -- NO, THAT'S OKAY. 1105 00:36:45,803 --> 00:36:50,341 -- CAN YOU RESEND IT? 1106 00:36:50,341 --> 00:36:51,609 -- MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE AT 1107 00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:55,813 EASE. WILL WE SORT OUT THE 1108 00:36:55,813 --> 00:37:00,217 TECHNICAL CHALLENGE? 1109 00:37:00,217 --> 00:37:08,092 -- OKAY. 1110 00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:18,803 -- ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WE ARE 1111 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,582 BACK. APOLOGIES. WE HAVE A SMALL 1112 00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:21,118 TECHNICAL CHALLENGE. JUST WITH 1113 00:40:21,118 --> 00:40:23,521 TWO. THE ONE PRESENTATION 1114 00:40:23,521 --> 00:40:24,321 UPLOADED TWICE. AND SO WE ARE 1115 00:40:24,321 --> 00:40:26,056 FIXING THAT RIGHT NOW. IN THE 1116 00:40:26,056 --> 00:40:27,158 SPIRIT OF KEEPING THE AGENDA 1117 00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:28,993 ROLLING, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE 1118 00:40:28,993 --> 00:40:30,361 TOWARDS OPENING UP THE PUBLIC 1119 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,830 HEARING ON THIS ITEM. AND SO 1120 00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:36,100 WITH THAT, AS PRESIDING OFFICER, 1121 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,068 I AM NOW OPENING THE PUBLIC 1122 00:40:38,068 --> 00:40:41,405 HEARING ON COUNCIL BILL 121270 1123 00:40:41,405 --> 00:40:44,475 PUBLIC COMMENT RELATING TO 1124 00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:45,443 COUNCIL BILL 121270 IS ONLY 1125 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,511 BEING ACCEPTED AT THIS TIME. 1126 00:40:47,511 --> 00:40:49,113 CLARK COUNTY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED 1127 00:40:49,113 --> 00:40:50,047 UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 1128 00:40:50,047 --> 00:40:51,449 -- CURRENTLY WE HAVE ZERO IN 1129 00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:53,250 PERSON AND THERE ARE TWO REMOTE 1130 00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:53,517 SPEAKERS. 1131 00:40:53,517 --> 00:40:55,719 -- OKAY, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE 1132 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,520 PROVIDED TWO MINUTES. CLERK I 1133 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,789 WILL NOW HAND THIS OVER TO YOU 1134 00:40:58,789 --> 00:41:01,192 TO PRESENT THE INSTRUCTIONS 1135 00:41:01,192 --> 00:41:02,259 -- SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED ON IN 1136 00:41:02,259 --> 00:41:03,627 THE ORDER OF REGISTRATION. THE 1137 00:41:03,627 --> 00:41:05,863 PUBLIC HEARING REGISTRATION WILL 1138 00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:07,531 REMAIN OPEN UNTIL THE CONCLUSION 1139 00:41:07,531 --> 00:41:08,632 OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. THE SAME 1140 00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:10,367 PUBLIC COMMENT RULES APPLY TO 1141 00:41:10,367 --> 00:41:11,702 THIS PUBLIC HEARING. A TEN 1142 00:41:11,702 --> 00:41:14,805 SECOND TIME WILL BE YOUR NOTICE 1143 00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:16,006 THAT THAT. TIME TO WRAP UP YOUR 1144 00:41:16,006 --> 00:41:17,308 COMMENTS. SPEAKERS MICS WILL BE 1145 00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:19,810 MUTED AT THE END OF THE ALLOTTED 1146 00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:20,845 TIME. SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO 1147 00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:22,279 BEGIN THEIR COMMENTS BY STATING 1148 00:41:22,279 --> 00:41:24,481 THEIR NAME. THE FIRST SPEAKER ON 1149 00:41:24,481 --> 00:41:29,987 THE LIST IS MARK CRAIG. AND LET 1150 00:41:29,987 --> 00:41:34,291 ME MARK YES, YOU CAN CLICK STAR 1151 00:41:34,291 --> 00:41:41,699 SIX TO BEGIN SPEAKING. 1152 00:41:41,699 --> 00:41:42,333 -- GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE 1153 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,134 MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARK CRAIG 1154 00:41:44,134 --> 00:41:45,703 AND I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND 1155 00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:48,272 RATEPAYER WITHIN THE BALLARD 1156 00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:48,939 IMPROVEMENT AREA. I'M HERE 1157 00:41:48,939 --> 00:41:51,075 TODAY TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE 1158 00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:51,642 LEGISLATION BEING DISCUSSED 1159 00:41:51,642 --> 00:41:54,512 REGARDING THE BALLARD BIA. AS A 1160 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:55,079 COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL 1161 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:56,213 PROPERTY OWNER IN BALLARD, I 1162 00:41:56,213 --> 00:41:58,916 VIEW THE BALLARD ALLIANCE AS AN 1163 00:41:58,916 --> 00:42:01,085 INVALUABLE PARTNER IN 1164 00:42:01,085 --> 00:42:01,685 MAINTAINING AND STRENGTHENING 1165 00:42:01,685 --> 00:42:04,488 THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEIR CLEAN 1166 00:42:04,488 --> 00:42:05,723 AND SAFE INITIATIVES HELP CREATE 1167 00:42:05,723 --> 00:42:08,659 AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE BUSINESSES, 1168 00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:09,226 RESIDENTS AND VISITORS FEEL 1169 00:42:09,226 --> 00:42:10,761 WELCOME WHILE THEIR ADVOCACY 1170 00:42:10,761 --> 00:42:12,596 PROVIDES AN EFFECTIVE VOICE FOR 1171 00:42:12,596 --> 00:42:13,631 THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING WITH 1172 00:42:13,631 --> 00:42:15,599 THE CITY OF SEATTLE, THE 1173 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,001 ALLIANCE PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE 1174 00:42:17,001 --> 00:42:19,503 IN PRESERVING BALLARD CONTINUED 1175 00:42:19,503 --> 00:42:22,072 SUCCESS AS ONE OF SEATTLE'S MOST 1176 00:42:22,072 --> 00:42:24,808 VIBRANT COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. 1177 00:42:24,808 --> 00:42:25,376 THE PENDING ORDINANCE UNDER 1178 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:26,377 CONSIDERATION IS A MINOR 1179 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:27,711 AMENDMENT IN HOW THE ANNUAL 1180 00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:29,513 INFLATIONARY ESCALATOR IS 1181 00:42:29,513 --> 00:42:31,515 APPLIED. THE FULL INTENT OF THE 1182 00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:33,884 ORDINANCE IS TO ADD CLARITY AND 1183 00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:35,119 ENSURE THE ANNUAL INFLATIONARY 1184 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,487 INCREASE WILL REPRESENT THE YEAR 1185 00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:37,855 OVER YEAR CHANGE IN THE CONSUMER 1186 00:42:37,855 --> 00:42:41,592 PRICE INDEX, WITH A FLOOR OF 2% 1187 00:42:41,592 --> 00:42:44,428 AND A CEILING OF 6%. THIS WAS 1188 00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:45,663 THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL 1189 00:42:45,663 --> 00:42:47,665 ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1190 00:42:47,665 --> 00:42:49,099 LATE 2023, AND AS A RATEPAYER 1191 00:42:49,099 --> 00:42:51,068 AND A MEMBER OF THE BALLARD 1192 00:42:51,068 --> 00:42:52,670 ALLIANCE RATEPAYER ADVISORY 1193 00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:53,671 BOARD, I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE 1194 00:42:53,671 --> 00:42:57,174 ADOPTION OF THIS AMENDMENT. 1195 00:42:57,174 --> 00:43:05,149 THANK YOU. 1196 00:43:05,382 --> 00:43:12,890 -- ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE NO 1197 00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:16,126 ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS FOR THIS 1198 00:43:16,126 --> 00:43:17,628 PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO WITH 1199 00:43:17,628 --> 00:43:20,431 THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW 1200 00:43:20,431 --> 00:43:25,336 CLOSED. AND SO NOW TURNING TO 1201 00:43:25,336 --> 00:43:27,871 THE TABLE, DO ARE WE READY WITH 1202 00:43:27,871 --> 00:43:28,806 THE PRESENTATION UP? WE'RE 1203 00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:32,977 ALMOST THERE. EVERYONE. 1204 00:43:32,977 --> 00:43:34,979 -- OKAY 1205 00:43:34,979 --> 00:43:39,483 -- ALL RIGHT. I'LL WILL BE AT 1206 00:43:39,483 --> 00:43:41,952 EASE AGAIN JUST FOR TWO MORE 1207 00:43:41,952 --> 00:43:43,053 MINUTES. I THINK WE'RE ALMOST 1208 00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:45,789 THERE. AGAIN. APOLOGIES ALL. 1209 00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:47,491 FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED TO 1210 00:43:47,491 --> 00:43:50,194 US. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 1211 00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:57,801 PATIENCE. 1212 00:43:58,035 --> 00:44:08,512 -- RACHEL, HERE. JUST SO YOU SEE 1213 00:44:48,419 --> 00:44:51,555 IT, I'M FORWARDING YOU THIS. 1214 00:44:51,555 --> 00:44:53,624 -- ROBERT OR KETTLE. 1215 00:44:53,624 --> 00:44:55,259 -- ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE 1216 00:44:55,259 --> 00:44:55,559 GOOD TO GO. 1217 00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:56,126 -- PERFECT. 1218 00:44:56,126 --> 00:44:56,627 -- WONDERFUL. THANK YOU 1219 00:44:56,627 --> 00:44:57,761 EVERYONE. 1220 00:44:57,761 --> 00:44:58,162 -- THANK YOU ALL. 1221 00:44:58,162 --> 00:45:01,198 -- FOR TECHNOLOGY ON FRIDAY. 1222 00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:03,167 THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. MY 1223 00:45:03,167 --> 00:45:04,702 NAME IS CASEY ROGERS. I'M HERE 1224 00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:06,136 WITH TOM MALONE AND BRIAN SCOTT. 1225 00:45:06,136 --> 00:45:07,971 I'M REPRESENTING BALLARD. I'M 1226 00:45:07,971 --> 00:45:10,307 GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR 1227 00:45:10,307 --> 00:45:14,445 BIA PROGRAM AND OF WHAT THE 1228 00:45:14,445 --> 00:45:15,079 LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE GOING 1229 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:15,746 OVER TODAY IS, AND THEN I'LL 1230 00:45:15,746 --> 00:45:17,681 PASS IT OVER TO THESE TWO TO GO 1231 00:45:17,681 --> 00:45:22,686 INTO MORE DETAIL. SO SO 1232 00:45:22,686 --> 00:45:23,353 SEATTLE'S BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT 1233 00:45:23,353 --> 00:45:24,788 AREA PROGRAM, WE HAVE 11 BIA'S 1234 00:45:24,788 --> 00:45:26,990 ACROSS THE CITY, REPRESENTING 1235 00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:30,661 MORE THAN $45 MILLION IN TOTAL 1236 00:45:30,661 --> 00:45:33,397 ASSESSMENTS. AND THAT PROVIDES 1237 00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:34,031 ENHANCED BUSINESS SERVICES AND 1238 00:45:34,031 --> 00:45:37,301 OTHER SERVICES IN EACH DISTRICT. 1239 00:45:37,301 --> 00:45:39,803 ALL THAT FUNDING DOES STAY 1240 00:45:39,803 --> 00:45:40,370 LOCALLY, AND THE FUNDING IS 1241 00:45:40,370 --> 00:45:42,106 PREDICTABLE AND SUSTAINABLE, 1242 00:45:42,106 --> 00:45:43,607 WHICH IS ONE THING WE LOVE ABOUT 1243 00:45:43,607 --> 00:45:46,910 OUR PROGRAM. THE REVENUE IS 1244 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:48,178 COLLECTED BY THE CITY, BY THE 1245 00:45:48,178 --> 00:45:50,147 TREASURY SERVICES, BUT 100% OF 1246 00:45:50,147 --> 00:45:51,882 IT GOES BACK TO THE DISTRICT. SO 1247 00:45:51,882 --> 00:45:54,852 IT REALLY ALL STAYS LOCALLY. AND 1248 00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:56,587 THEN LASTLY, THE BIA PROGRAM IS 1249 00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:58,155 SUPPORTED BY BOTH OED, OFFICE OF 1250 00:45:58,155 --> 00:46:01,558 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE 1251 00:46:01,558 --> 00:46:02,926 TREASURY SERVICES. AND JUST TO 1252 00:46:02,926 --> 00:46:05,429 FRAME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT 1253 00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:06,930 BIA AND THE LEGISLATION THAT 1254 00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:08,532 WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY. SO EACH 1255 00:46:08,532 --> 00:46:12,836 BY ITSELF HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE 1256 00:46:12,836 --> 00:46:14,171 ORDINANCE THAT OUTLINES THE THE 1257 00:46:14,171 --> 00:46:14,838 ASSESSMENT METHODOLOGY. SO THE 1258 00:46:14,838 --> 00:46:17,040 WAY THAT THEY ASSESS THE 1259 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,041 RATEPAYERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT 1260 00:46:18,041 --> 00:46:19,543 IS UNIQUE TO EACH DISTRICT. AND 1261 00:46:19,543 --> 00:46:21,645 I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT 1262 00:46:21,645 --> 00:46:23,914 INFLATIONARY FACTORS ARE REALLY 1263 00:46:23,914 --> 00:46:24,515 COMMONLY USED AND RECOMMENDED 1264 00:46:24,515 --> 00:46:25,582 WITH EACH ASSESSMENT FORMULA. 1265 00:46:25,582 --> 00:46:26,850 AND THAT ENSURES THAT THE 1266 00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:28,285 BUDGETS KEEP IN PACE WITH 1267 00:46:28,285 --> 00:46:30,654 ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AND KEEP UP 1268 00:46:30,654 --> 00:46:35,325 WITH RISING COSTS. SO THE 1269 00:46:35,325 --> 00:46:36,727 AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED 1270 00:46:36,727 --> 00:46:39,396 TODAY, A FEW THINGS. IT 1271 00:46:39,396 --> 00:46:39,997 CLARIFIES AMBIGUOUS ORDINANCE 1272 00:46:39,997 --> 00:46:42,232 LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW THE ANNUAL 1273 00:46:42,232 --> 00:46:44,368 INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS SHOULD BE 1274 00:46:44,368 --> 00:46:46,069 APPLIED. IT CONFIRMS THE 1275 00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:47,671 INTENDED METHOD. SO THERE'S A 1276 00:46:47,671 --> 00:46:49,640 FEW INTERPRETATIONS WE REALIZED. 1277 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,509 BUT THE INTENDED METHOD IS THAT 1278 00:46:52,509 --> 00:46:54,945 FOR YEARS THREE THROUGH 12 OF 1279 00:46:54,945 --> 00:46:55,813 THE ORDINANCE, YOU MUST BASE THE 1280 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,581 PREVIOUS YEAR'S ASSESSMENT PLUS 1281 00:46:57,581 --> 00:47:01,051 THE SEATTLE CPI. YOU CHANGE FROM 1282 00:47:01,051 --> 00:47:03,220 OCTOBER TO OCTOBER WITH A 2% 1283 00:47:03,220 --> 00:47:05,189 MINIMUM AND A 6% MAXIMUM. AND IT 1284 00:47:05,189 --> 00:47:09,059 DOES PROVIDE A CPU BACKUP. SO 1285 00:47:09,059 --> 00:47:11,061 YOU, AS THE CONSUMER PRICE 1286 00:47:11,061 --> 00:47:15,799 INDEX, IN CASE THAT THERE IS NOT 1287 00:47:15,799 --> 00:47:16,366 A CPI ANNOUNCED IN OCTOBER, 1288 00:47:16,366 --> 00:47:18,035 WHICH INCIDENTALLY DID HAPPEN 1289 00:47:18,035 --> 00:47:19,736 LAST LAST FALL WITH THE FEDERAL 1290 00:47:19,736 --> 00:47:22,940 GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN. I DO WANT 1291 00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:25,509 TO NOTE THAT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY 1292 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:25,976 CHANGE THE ASSESSMENT 1293 00:47:25,976 --> 00:47:26,543 METHODOLOGY. THIS IS REALLY 1294 00:47:26,543 --> 00:47:29,413 ABOUT CLARIFYING LANGUAGE. IT 1295 00:47:29,413 --> 00:47:30,747 ENSURES CONSISTENT CALCULATIONS 1296 00:47:30,747 --> 00:47:32,616 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CALCULATE 1297 00:47:32,616 --> 00:47:34,518 THE CORRECT ASSESSMENT FOR THE 1298 00:47:34,518 --> 00:47:36,653 FOLLOWING YEARS, AND IMPROVES 1299 00:47:36,653 --> 00:47:37,287 TRANSPARENCY AND PREDICTABILITY 1300 00:47:37,287 --> 00:47:41,358 FOR RATEPAYERS IN BALLARD. IN 1301 00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:43,360 CONCLUSION, OED HAS DONE A 1302 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,728 REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT 1303 00:47:44,728 --> 00:47:47,798 AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVING IT. 1304 00:47:47,798 --> 00:47:49,867 IT'S REASONABLE AND ALIGNS WITH 1305 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:51,201 OUR CITY POLICIES, AND WE THINK 1306 00:47:51,201 --> 00:47:54,204 IT'S NECESSARY FOR ACCURATE 1307 00:47:54,204 --> 00:47:54,838 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ASSESSMENT 1308 00:47:54,838 --> 00:47:55,839 MOVING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, 1309 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:58,775 I'LL PASS IT OVER TO TOM AND 1310 00:47:58,775 --> 00:47:59,042 BRIAN. 1311 00:47:59,042 --> 00:48:00,911 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR RINCK AND 1312 00:48:00,911 --> 00:48:03,213 OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS OF THIS 1313 00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:05,582 COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS TOM MALONE 1314 00:48:05,582 --> 00:48:08,185 AND I AM CHAIR OF THE BALLARD 1315 00:48:08,185 --> 00:48:12,656 ALLIANCE RATEPAYER BOARD. THE 1316 00:48:12,656 --> 00:48:15,092 BALLARD ALLIANCE WAS INITIALLY 1317 00:48:15,092 --> 00:48:18,295 FORMED IN 2017, AND WE HAD ONE 1318 00:48:18,295 --> 00:48:24,902 FULL TERM. AND THEN IN 2023, WE 1319 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:27,905 ADOPTED A NEW ORDINANCE IN 1320 00:48:27,905 --> 00:48:31,341 REGARD TO THIS PROGRAM. BUT 1321 00:48:31,341 --> 00:48:31,975 WE'VE BEEN BASICALLY AROUND 1322 00:48:31,975 --> 00:48:38,181 SINCE 2017 AS A B, I A, BUT WE 1323 00:48:38,181 --> 00:48:39,783 AS OUR SLIDES INDICATE, THIS 1324 00:48:39,783 --> 00:48:42,219 REALLY HAS GROWN OUT OF THE 1325 00:48:42,219 --> 00:48:45,922 BALLARD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 1326 00:48:45,922 --> 00:48:47,357 THAT'S BEEN AROUND HELPING TO 1327 00:48:47,357 --> 00:48:51,094 WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY SINCE 1328 00:48:51,094 --> 00:48:56,500 1927. SO EXCUSE ME, OUR OUR 1329 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:58,402 MISSION IS FOR COLLECTIVE ACTION 1330 00:48:58,402 --> 00:49:03,040 TO BUILD AND SUSTAIN AN 1331 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,674 INCLUSIVE AND RESILIENT BALLARD 1332 00:49:03,674 --> 00:49:06,943 OUR BOARD CONSISTS EQUALLY OF 1333 00:49:06,943 --> 00:49:09,713 MEMBERS OF OTHER LANDOWNERS AND 1334 00:49:09,713 --> 00:49:14,051 BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS OUR 1335 00:49:14,051 --> 00:49:17,087 MISSION FOCUSES ON CLEAN 1336 00:49:17,087 --> 00:49:19,556 STREETS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, 1337 00:49:19,556 --> 00:49:22,326 MARKETING, ADVOCACY, AND PUBLIC 1338 00:49:22,326 --> 00:49:26,963 REALM, AND BEAUTIFICATION SO WE 1339 00:49:26,963 --> 00:49:28,999 ARE OBVIOUSLY IN FAVOR OF 1340 00:49:28,999 --> 00:49:32,602 GETTING THIS AMENDMENT TO THIS 1341 00:49:32,602 --> 00:49:35,706 PROGRAM BECAUSE HAVING BEEN 1342 00:49:35,706 --> 00:49:38,909 INVOLVED WITH BOTH THE 2017 AND 1343 00:49:38,909 --> 00:49:42,045 THE 2023 ORDINANCE, WHEN WE HAD 1344 00:49:42,045 --> 00:49:45,716 TO GET 60% OF OUR PEOPLE TO 1345 00:49:45,716 --> 00:49:49,920 AGREE WITH THE ORDINANCE, WE 1346 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,822 WERE TELLING THEM THAT WE WERE 1347 00:49:51,822 --> 00:49:53,990 GOING TO PUT THIS FLOOR OF 2% 1348 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:55,392 AND CEILING OF 6% IN ON AN 1349 00:49:55,392 --> 00:49:59,663 ANNUAL BASIS. SO WE THINK THAT 1350 00:49:59,663 --> 00:50:00,931 WE STRONGLY ENDORSE THIS 1351 00:50:00,931 --> 00:50:03,667 TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE 1352 00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:04,768 OUR PEOPLE WITH WHAT WE PROMISED 1353 00:50:04,768 --> 00:50:07,904 THEM. THANK YOU. 1354 00:50:07,904 --> 00:50:10,173 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR. RANKING 1355 00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:10,974 MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M 1356 00:50:10,974 --> 00:50:12,709 BRIAN SCOTT, I'M THE FOUNDING 1357 00:50:12,709 --> 00:50:14,845 PARTNER OF UNCOMMON BRIDGES. 1358 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,146 I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PLACE 1359 00:50:16,146 --> 00:50:19,750 MANAGEMENT INDUSTRY AND BUSINESS 1360 00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:20,951 IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS FOR MORE 1361 00:50:20,951 --> 00:50:23,353 THAN 40 YEARS. AND I'VE HAD A 1362 00:50:23,353 --> 00:50:24,888 ROLE IN ALL OF SEATTLE'S 1363 00:50:24,888 --> 00:50:26,656 BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREAS AND 1364 00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:28,425 BEEN A CONSULTANT FOR THE CITY 1365 00:50:28,425 --> 00:50:32,362 PRETTY MUCH JUST ABOUT 20 YEARS. 1366 00:50:32,362 --> 00:50:34,030 THIS AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY ABOUT 1367 00:50:34,030 --> 00:50:36,733 FIXING SOME LANGUAGE THAT ISN'T 1368 00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:39,069 PRODUCING THE INTENDED IMPACT. 1369 00:50:39,069 --> 00:50:43,874 YOU PASS AN ORDINANCE IN 2023, 1370 00:50:43,874 --> 00:50:46,243 REAUTHORIZING THE DISTRICT, AND 1371 00:50:46,243 --> 00:50:46,810 THAT METHODOLOGY CREATED A 1372 00:50:46,810 --> 00:50:48,078 CHALLENGE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, 1373 00:50:48,078 --> 00:50:50,580 THE LANGUAGE IN ONE SECTION IS 1374 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:52,883 CAUSING AN UNEXPECTED CHANGE. 1375 00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:54,151 THE INTENT WAS TO INCREASE THE 1376 00:50:54,151 --> 00:50:56,586 ASSESSMENT BY AN INFLATION 1377 00:50:56,586 --> 00:50:57,721 FACTOR EVERY YEAR, WITH LIMITS 1378 00:50:57,721 --> 00:50:59,122 ON HOW THAT IT WOULDN'T BE TOO 1379 00:50:59,122 --> 00:51:01,758 MUCH OR TOO LITTLE. BUT THE 1380 00:51:01,758 --> 00:51:04,728 LANGUAGE CREATES TWO POSSIBLE 1381 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:06,463 MISINTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT IS 1382 00:51:06,463 --> 00:51:08,298 HAPPENING. IT COULD CAP THE 1383 00:51:08,298 --> 00:51:10,867 ASSESSMENTS AT A TOTAL INCREASE 1384 00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:13,503 OF 6% OVER THE ORIGINAL YEAR, 1385 00:51:13,503 --> 00:51:15,705 AND INFLATION WILL BE MUCH MORE 1386 00:51:15,705 --> 00:51:17,207 THAN 6% OVER THE 12 YEAR LIFE OF 1387 00:51:17,207 --> 00:51:19,509 THE DISTRICT. ANOTHER OPTION, 1388 00:51:19,509 --> 00:51:20,143 ANOTHER WAY TO READ IT WOULD BE 1389 00:51:20,143 --> 00:51:21,311 THAT IT WOULD INFLATE IT ONCE 1390 00:51:21,311 --> 00:51:24,414 YOU REACH 6%, IT WOULD CONTINUE 1391 00:51:24,414 --> 00:51:26,883 TO REACH INFLATE IT 6% EVERY 1392 00:51:26,883 --> 00:51:29,486 YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE MUCH 1393 00:51:29,486 --> 00:51:30,887 GREATER THAN THAN THE 1394 00:51:30,887 --> 00:51:32,889 ASSESSMENT. WE HAVE TREMENDOUS 1395 00:51:32,889 --> 00:51:34,958 BURDEN ON RATEPAYERS. SO NEITHER 1396 00:51:34,958 --> 00:51:36,259 OF THESE WAS THE INTENT. ONE 1397 00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:37,727 WOULD DEPRESS SERVICES, THE 1398 00:51:37,727 --> 00:51:40,397 OTHER WOULD UNFAIRLY ASSESS 1399 00:51:40,397 --> 00:51:42,899 RATEPAYERS. SO WE'RE PROPOSING A 1400 00:51:42,899 --> 00:51:45,802 MODEST CHANGE THE AGAIN, THE 1401 00:51:45,802 --> 00:51:47,270 INTENT IS BASICALLY THAT WE 1402 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:48,171 WOULD INCREASE THE ASSESSMENT 1403 00:51:48,171 --> 00:51:51,041 EACH YEAR BY THE CONSUMER PRICE 1404 00:51:51,041 --> 00:51:52,542 INDEX, BUT BY AT LEAST 2% AND BY 1405 00:51:52,542 --> 00:51:57,614 NO MORE THAN 6%. SO BY APPROVING 1406 00:51:57,614 --> 00:51:59,483 APPROVING THAT CONSISTENT 2% 1407 00:51:59,483 --> 00:52:01,284 FLOOR AND 6% CEILING ON THE 1408 00:52:01,284 --> 00:52:03,553 ASSESSMENTS, THAT ALLOWS 1409 00:52:03,553 --> 00:52:04,921 PREDICTABLE FUNDING THAT 1410 00:52:04,921 --> 00:52:07,023 RATEPAYERS CAN PLAN ON THEIR 1411 00:52:07,023 --> 00:52:07,657 ASSESSMENTS AND HELPS THE COST 1412 00:52:07,657 --> 00:52:10,894 OF SERVICES. YOU KNOW, THE 1413 00:52:10,894 --> 00:52:13,997 ASSESSMENT KEEP PACE WITH RISING 1414 00:52:13,997 --> 00:52:16,500 COSTS OF PROVIDING THE SERVICES. 1415 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:17,968 SO THIS THE FIX IS VERY SMALL. 1416 00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:24,207 IT'S CHANGE IN ONE PARAGRAPH IN 1417 00:52:24,207 --> 00:52:26,209 SECTION TWO B TO SAY THAT IN 1418 00:52:26,209 --> 00:52:29,279 EACH YEAR, THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE 1419 00:52:29,279 --> 00:52:30,347 IN THE ASSESSMENT WILL BE EQUAL 1420 00:52:30,347 --> 00:52:32,749 TO THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN THE 1421 00:52:32,749 --> 00:52:36,720 CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR SEATTLE 1422 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,890 FROM OCTOBER THE PREVIOUS YEAR 1423 00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:40,857 TO THE THAT OF THE CURRENT YEAR. 1424 00:52:40,857 --> 00:52:43,527 IT ALSO MAKES A PROVISION JUST 1425 00:52:43,527 --> 00:52:45,595 IN CASE. AS WAS THE CASE THIS 1426 00:52:45,595 --> 00:52:47,264 LAST YEAR, IF THE CONSUMER PRICE 1427 00:52:47,264 --> 00:52:48,198 INDEX DOES NOT BECOME AVAILABLE, 1428 00:52:48,198 --> 00:52:50,200 WE WOULD JUST USE THAT SAME 1429 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,301 FACTOR FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO 1430 00:52:51,301 --> 00:52:54,471 THIS IS A PRETTY SIMPLE 1431 00:52:54,471 --> 00:52:55,272 TECHNICAL AMENDMENT JUST TO GET 1432 00:52:55,272 --> 00:52:56,806 THINGS LINED UP WITH INTENT. WE 1433 00:52:56,806 --> 00:52:57,774 ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS IT TODAY. 1434 00:52:57,774 --> 00:53:01,044 THANK YOU. 1435 00:53:01,044 --> 00:53:02,579 -- THANK YOU ALL FOR THE 1436 00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:03,914 PRESENTATION TODAY AND FOR 1437 00:53:03,914 --> 00:53:04,981 HANGING WITH US THROUGH THE 1438 00:53:04,981 --> 00:53:06,550 TECHNICAL ISSUES. THANK YOU TO. 1439 00:53:06,550 --> 00:53:07,484 I KNOW THE NUMBER OF STAFF 1440 00:53:07,484 --> 00:53:08,919 BEHIND THE SCENES WHO GOT THE 1441 00:53:08,919 --> 00:53:09,953 PRESENTATION UP. I APPRECIATE 1442 00:53:09,953 --> 00:53:11,755 YOUR QUICK WORK, COLLEAGUES. DO 1443 00:53:11,755 --> 00:53:14,157 YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 1444 00:53:14,157 --> 00:53:17,193 PRESENTATION OR WHAT'S BEFORE US 1445 00:53:17,193 --> 00:53:18,461 TODAY? VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 1446 00:53:18,461 --> 00:53:19,563 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR 1447 00:53:19,563 --> 00:53:20,797 RINCK NO QUESTIONS FOR ME TODAY. 1448 00:53:20,797 --> 00:53:22,499 I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY 1449 00:53:22,499 --> 00:53:23,567 APPRECIATION TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR 1450 00:53:23,567 --> 00:53:25,769 WORK AND FOR COMING DOWN TO 1451 00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:27,837 SHARE WITH US TODAY WHY THESE 1452 00:53:27,837 --> 00:53:28,405 CHANGES ARE NEEDED AND THE 1453 00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:31,174 APPROACH THAT YOU TOOK TO MAKING 1454 00:53:31,174 --> 00:53:32,576 SURE THAT MEMBERS WERE ENGAGED 1455 00:53:32,576 --> 00:53:34,277 AND PARTICIPATED. AND SO JUST 1456 00:53:34,277 --> 00:53:37,814 EXPRESSING MY GRATITUDE. THANK 1457 00:53:37,814 --> 00:53:38,014 YOU. 1458 00:53:38,014 --> 00:53:38,348 -- THANK YOU. 1459 00:53:38,348 --> 00:53:40,684 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 1460 00:53:40,684 --> 00:53:42,352 I AM NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL 1461 00:53:42,352 --> 00:53:45,655 HANDS. SO I WILL NOTE THAT THIS 1462 00:53:45,655 --> 00:53:46,590 ITEM IS SCHEDULED FOR A VOTE THE 1463 00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:47,757 SAME DAY AS A PUBLIC HEARING, 1464 00:53:47,757 --> 00:53:49,793 AND THE RULES MUST BE SUSPENDED 1465 00:53:49,793 --> 00:53:51,228 TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 1466 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:53,163 A VOTE TODAY. SO IF THERE IS NO 1467 00:53:53,163 --> 00:53:54,998 OBJECTION, THE RULES WILL BE 1468 00:53:54,998 --> 00:53:55,532 SUSPENDED TO ALLOW FOR A 1469 00:53:55,532 --> 00:53:57,133 COMMITTEE VOTE ON COUNCIL BILL 1470 00:53:57,133 --> 00:53:59,669 1212, SEVEN ZERO. THE SAME DAY A 1471 00:53:59,669 --> 00:54:05,909 PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD. ALL 1472 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:06,910 RIGHT. SEEING NO OBJECTION, I 1473 00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:09,012 MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE 1474 00:54:09,012 --> 00:54:09,613 RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNCIL 1475 00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:13,250 BILL 121270. IS THERE A SECOND? 1476 00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:13,617 -- SECOND. 1477 00:54:13,617 --> 00:54:14,451 -- IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO 1478 00:54:14,451 --> 00:54:15,318 RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL. 1479 00:54:15,318 --> 00:54:19,022 ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS? 1480 00:54:19,022 --> 00:54:20,290 RIGHT. SEEING AND HEARING? NONE. 1481 00:54:20,290 --> 00:54:21,291 WILL THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE 1482 00:54:21,291 --> 00:54:23,627 CALL THE ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE 1483 00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:25,862 RECOMMENDATION TO PASS THE BILL? 1484 00:54:25,862 --> 00:54:26,329 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 1485 00:54:26,329 --> 00:54:31,601 -- YES. 1486 00:54:31,601 --> 00:54:32,068 -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT 1487 00:54:32,068 --> 00:54:33,036 HOLLINGSWORTH. COUNCILMEMBER 1488 00:54:33,036 --> 00:54:33,236 SAKA. 1489 00:54:33,236 --> 00:54:34,271 -- AYE. 1490 00:54:34,271 --> 00:54:37,374 -- CHAIR RINCK. 1491 00:54:37,374 --> 00:54:37,741 -- YES, CHAIR. 1492 00:54:37,741 --> 00:54:40,043 -- THERE ARE THREE IN FAVOR. 1493 00:54:40,043 --> 00:54:43,847 ZERO POSED WITH ONE. NOT 1494 00:54:43,847 --> 00:54:44,114 PRESENT. 1495 00:54:44,114 --> 00:54:45,515 -- ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THE 1496 00:54:45,515 --> 00:54:46,483 MOTION CARRIES AND THE COMMITTEE 1497 00:54:46,483 --> 00:54:48,918 RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BILL 1498 00:54:48,918 --> 00:54:49,519 PASS WILL BE SENT TO THE 1499 00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:50,420 SEPTEMBER 15th FULL CITY COUNCIL 1500 00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:51,788 MEETING. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR 1501 00:54:51,788 --> 00:54:52,389 THE PRESENTATION FOR THE WORK 1502 00:54:52,389 --> 00:54:53,256 YOU DO. 1503 00:54:53,256 --> 00:54:55,558 -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1504 00:54:55,558 --> 00:54:56,493 -- WONDERFUL. WITH THAT, WE WILL 1505 00:54:56,493 --> 00:54:58,795 NOW MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM OF 1506 00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:00,130 BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE 1507 00:55:00,130 --> 00:55:02,699 READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD? 1508 00:55:02,699 --> 00:55:07,370 -- ITEM TWO COUNCIL BILL 121272. 1509 00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:07,971 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE 1510 00:55:07,971 --> 00:55:09,806 CAPITOL HILL BUSINESS 1511 00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:11,608 IMPROVEMENT AREA. MODIFYING THE 1512 00:55:11,608 --> 00:55:14,611 BOUNDARIES. AMENDING ORDINANCE 1513 00:55:14,611 --> 00:55:21,451 113029 AS PREVIOUSLY AMENDED BY 1514 00:55:21,451 --> 00:55:24,254 ORDINANCES 115998120303 AND 1515 00:55:24,254 --> 00:55:27,691 124514, MODIFYING THE ASSESSED 1516 00:55:27,691 --> 00:55:28,324 STRUCTURE ASSESSMENT STRUCTURE 1517 00:55:28,324 --> 00:55:30,460 FOR THE CAPITOL HILL BUSINESS 1518 00:55:30,460 --> 00:55:31,094 IMPROVEMENT AREA AND RATIFYING 1519 00:55:31,094 --> 00:55:32,429 AND CONFIRMING CERTAIN PRIOR 1520 00:55:32,429 --> 00:55:34,664 ACTS FOR PUBLIC HEARING 1521 00:55:34,664 --> 00:55:36,599 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE. 1522 00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:38,668 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I AM 1523 00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:40,670 NOTING FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS 1524 00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:41,237 ITEM DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC 1525 00:55:41,237 --> 00:55:43,740 HEARING, AND WE WILL HOLD THAT 1526 00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:44,374 TODAY FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION 1527 00:55:44,374 --> 00:55:46,209 AND BEFORE A VOTE ON THE 1528 00:55:46,209 --> 00:55:49,813 ORDINANCE COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, 1529 00:55:49,813 --> 00:55:51,047 1272 CONTAINS FIVE PROPOSED 1530 00:55:51,047 --> 00:55:53,016 ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CAPITOL HILL 1531 00:55:53,016 --> 00:55:54,918 BROADWAY BIAS ORDINANCE INTENDED 1532 00:55:54,918 --> 00:55:56,486 TO STABILIZE THE BIAS BUDGET AND 1533 00:55:56,486 --> 00:55:58,021 BETTER ALIGN THE DISTRICT 1534 00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:58,655 BOUNDARY WITH CURRENT COMMERCIAL 1535 00:55:58,655 --> 00:56:02,959 ACTIVITY AND WITH THAT, I WILL 1536 00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:05,929 NOW TURN IT TO OUR PRESENTERS AT 1537 00:56:05,929 --> 00:56:06,863 THE TABLE. OR PARDON ME, BEFORE 1538 00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:09,432 WE MOVE TO PARDON ME, MISS READ. 1539 00:56:09,432 --> 00:56:11,201 AT THIS POINT, I WILL NOW TURN 1540 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:13,303 IT TO OUR PRESENTERS AT THE 1541 00:56:13,303 --> 00:56:13,536 TABLE. 1542 00:56:13,536 --> 00:56:22,979 -- THANK YOU. JUST ONE SECOND. 1543 00:56:23,113 --> 00:56:33,590 ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. 1544 00:56:51,708 --> 00:56:55,879 LET ME DO FULL SCREEN. ARE YOU 1545 00:56:55,879 --> 00:57:03,787 SHARE FIRST. 1546 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:12,529 ALL RIGHT. AND WE'RE LIVE. ALL 1547 00:57:12,529 --> 00:57:14,431 RIGHT. HI AGAIN. CASEY ROGERS 1548 00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:18,168 BIA POLICY ADVISOR FOR OFFICE OF 1549 00:57:18,168 --> 00:57:19,602 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE TODAY. 1550 00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:21,070 AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE CAPITOL 1551 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:23,373 HILL OR ALSO KNOWN AS THE 1552 00:57:23,373 --> 00:57:28,511 BROADWAY BIA ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 1553 00:57:28,511 --> 00:57:29,646 SOME BACKGROUND ON THE CAPITOL 1554 00:57:29,646 --> 00:57:30,180 HILL OR BROADWAY BUSINESS 1555 00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:32,182 IMPROVEMENT AREA WAS ORIGINALLY 1556 00:57:32,182 --> 00:57:33,583 ESTABLISHED IN 1986. SO IT'S A 1557 00:57:33,583 --> 00:57:38,555 LONG STANDING BIA. THE CHBA IS 1558 00:57:38,555 --> 00:57:39,923 ACTUALLY BUSINESS BASED, SO 1559 00:57:39,923 --> 00:57:42,058 IT'S BASED. THE ASSESSMENTS ARE 1560 00:57:42,058 --> 00:57:42,692 BASED ON SELF-REPORTED REVENUE 1561 00:57:42,692 --> 00:57:43,560 FROM EACH BUSINESS. THAT'S A 1562 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,364 MEMBER OF THE BIA. IT'S 1563 00:57:48,364 --> 00:57:50,166 CURRENTLY CURRENTLY HAS A CAP OF 1564 00:57:50,166 --> 00:57:53,670 3500, A MAXIMUM CAP OF $3,500. 1565 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:54,971 AS THE MAXIMUM THAT ANY 1566 00:57:54,971 --> 00:57:58,007 RATEPAYER WOULD PAY AND THAT 1567 00:57:58,007 --> 00:58:00,009 ACTUALLY REALLY LIMITS THE 1568 00:58:00,009 --> 00:58:00,877 GROWTH OF THE BIA. AS I 1569 00:58:00,877 --> 00:58:02,645 MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS 1570 00:58:02,645 --> 00:58:03,213 PRESENTATION, THERE'S NO 1571 00:58:03,213 --> 00:58:04,581 INFLATIONARY FACTOR THERE GIVEN. 1572 00:58:04,581 --> 00:58:06,115 AND SO RISING COSTS FOR 1573 00:58:06,115 --> 00:58:07,984 CLEANING, SAFETY AND DISTRICT 1574 00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:10,520 MANAGEMENT KIND OF OUTPACE THE 1575 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,654 ASSESSMENTS. AND SO THAT'S WHY 1576 00:58:11,654 --> 00:58:15,124 WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK 1577 00:58:15,124 --> 00:58:17,227 -- ABOUT ADJUSTING THIS. THE 1578 00:58:17,227 --> 00:58:17,827 APPROACH. PROPOSED AMENDMENT 1579 00:58:17,827 --> 00:58:19,996 OFFERS SHORT TERM BUDGET 1580 00:58:19,996 --> 00:58:21,464 STABILIZATION BY ADJUSTING THE 1581 00:58:21,464 --> 00:58:24,000 RATES FOR INFLATION AND MAKING 1582 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,535 ONE SMALL BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT. 1583 00:58:25,535 --> 00:58:27,770 IT INCREASES SOME FIXED 1584 00:58:27,770 --> 00:58:29,873 ASSESSMENTS THAT I'LL GO INTO 1585 00:58:29,873 --> 00:58:30,440 THAT IMPROVES EQUITY ACROSS 1586 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,343 RATEPAYERS AND JUST TO MENTION 1587 00:58:33,343 --> 00:58:34,811 LONGER TERM, THE BROADWAY BAY 1588 00:58:34,811 --> 00:58:36,813 PLANS TO REALLY REEVALUATE 1589 00:58:36,813 --> 00:58:37,380 SHIFTING FROM THIS BUSINESS 1590 00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:39,082 BASED MODEL TO A MORE 1591 00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:41,150 PREDICTABLE, SUSTAINABLE, 1592 00:58:41,150 --> 00:58:42,218 PROPERTY BASED ASSESSMENT MODEL, 1593 00:58:42,218 --> 00:58:46,589 WHICH IS MORE COMMON AMONGST 1594 00:58:46,589 --> 00:58:49,192 OUR. THE ELEMENTS OF THE 1595 00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:53,463 PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING 1596 00:58:53,463 --> 00:58:54,097 TODAY ARE AS FOLLOWS RAISING THE 1597 00:58:54,097 --> 00:58:57,000 MAXIMUM ASSESSMENT FROM $3,500 1598 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,635 TO 5000. IT WILL INCREASE THE 1599 00:58:58,635 --> 00:59:01,538 SEATTLE CENTRAL COLLEGE'S FIXED 1600 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:02,071 ASSESSMENTS BY REMOVING A 1601 00:59:02,071 --> 00:59:02,805 SPECIAL LOWER RATE SO THAT IT 1602 00:59:02,805 --> 00:59:04,040 PAYS THE STANDARD MAXIMUM RATE 1603 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,244 OF 5000. IT WILL INCREASE A 1604 00:59:08,244 --> 00:59:08,745 FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. 1605 00:59:08,745 --> 00:59:09,779 INSTITUTIONS FIXED ASSESSMENT. 1606 00:59:09,779 --> 00:59:10,813 SO THEY ALSO PAY THE STANDARD 1607 00:59:10,813 --> 00:59:13,316 MAXIMUM RATES. AND THEN IT WILL 1608 00:59:13,316 --> 00:59:15,552 ADD STARTING IN 2032, A STEADY 1609 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:17,554 $200 ANNUAL INCREASE TO ACCOUNT 1610 00:59:17,554 --> 00:59:22,492 FOR INFLATION. THE MAP HERE, I 1611 00:59:22,492 --> 00:59:25,361 JUST WANT TO NOTE THE BOUNDARY 1612 00:59:25,361 --> 00:59:27,196 ADJUSTMENT. IF YOU CAN SEE IN 1613 00:59:27,196 --> 00:59:28,565 THE VERY SOUTHEAST CORNER, 1614 00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:30,633 THERE'S JUST ONE PARCEL THAT'S 1615 00:59:30,633 --> 00:59:32,535 BEING REMOVED FROM THE BOUNDARY 1616 00:59:32,535 --> 00:59:33,703 TO BETTER MATCH THE ACTUAL 1617 00:59:33,703 --> 00:59:37,073 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OF BROADWAY. 1618 00:59:37,073 --> 00:59:40,843 AND IN CONCLUSION, AGAIN, OED 1619 00:59:40,843 --> 00:59:42,211 HAS REVIEWED THE AMENDMENT BEING 1620 00:59:42,211 --> 00:59:45,114 DISCUSSED AND FOUND THAT IT IS 1621 00:59:45,114 --> 00:59:46,115 REASONABLE AND ALIGNS WITH CITY 1622 00:59:46,115 --> 00:59:47,850 POLICY. AND WE DO RECOMMEND THIS 1623 00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:49,018 FOR APPROVAL HERE TODAY. SO 1624 00:59:49,018 --> 00:59:50,153 THANK YOU FOR THIS. AND I'M 1625 00:59:50,153 --> 00:59:53,856 GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO IAN 1626 00:59:53,856 --> 00:59:56,192 O'BRIEN. HERE YOU CAN GET GOING 1627 00:59:56,192 --> 00:59:56,426 AS AYE. 1628 00:59:56,426 --> 00:59:57,193 -- I'M GOING TO PULL THAT UP. 1629 00:59:57,193 --> 00:59:59,829 ALL RIGHT. 1630 00:59:59,829 --> 01:00:01,898 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 1631 01:00:01,898 --> 01:00:03,733 MY NAME IS RYAN. I'M THE 1632 01:00:03,733 --> 01:00:06,302 DIRECTOR OF THE BROADWAY 1633 01:00:06,302 --> 01:00:08,504 BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA IN 1634 01:00:08,504 --> 01:00:10,473 LEGISLATION REFERRED TO AS THE 1635 01:00:10,473 --> 01:00:10,974 CAPITOL HILL BUSINESS 1636 01:00:10,974 --> 01:00:15,878 IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. SO WHO 1637 01:00:15,878 --> 01:00:17,981 WE ARE. WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1986. 1638 01:00:17,981 --> 01:00:21,184 WE'RE ONE OF THE EARLIEST BIS 1639 01:00:21,184 --> 01:00:24,253 IN THE CITY. WE'RE A 501. C SIX 1640 01:00:24,253 --> 01:00:26,589 NONPROFIT AND OUR BOARD IS MADE 1641 01:00:26,589 --> 01:00:28,758 UP OF RATEPAYERS. WE HAVE ABOUT 1642 01:00:28,758 --> 01:00:31,361 150 BUSINESSES. WE'RE NESTED IN 1643 01:00:31,361 --> 01:00:32,962 SEATTLE'S HISTORIC LGBTQ 1644 01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:34,931 NEIGHBORHOOD OF CAPITOL HILL AND 1645 01:00:34,931 --> 01:00:36,499 RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR 1646 01:00:36,499 --> 01:00:37,266 DISTRICT IS THE LIGHT RAIL 1647 01:00:37,266 --> 01:00:39,035 STATION. AND SO WE ARE THE 1648 01:00:39,035 --> 01:00:40,970 GATEWAY TO CAPITOL HILL. OUR 1649 01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:41,437 MISSION IS TO CONNECT 1650 01:00:41,437 --> 01:00:43,639 BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS, AND 1651 01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:45,308 VISITORS TO CREATE A SAFE, CLEAN 1652 01:00:45,308 --> 01:00:48,044 AND THRIVING COMMUNITY. WELCOME 1653 01:00:48,044 --> 01:00:52,915 TO ALL. AND AS KACEY 1654 01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:54,650 HIGHLIGHTED, THIS IS JUST A 1655 01:00:54,650 --> 01:00:56,953 PRETTIER VERSION OF OF WHAT HE 1656 01:00:56,953 --> 01:01:01,591 HE GAVE US. BASICALLY, OUR 1657 01:01:01,591 --> 01:01:02,925 BUSINESS DISTRICT GOES FROM PIKE 1658 01:01:02,925 --> 01:01:05,461 IN THE SOUTH TO ROY IN THE NORTH 1659 01:01:05,461 --> 01:01:10,299 WITH SOME STRAIGHT SIDE STREETS 1660 01:01:10,299 --> 01:01:13,903 INCLUDED. AND SOME BASICS ON THE 1661 01:01:13,903 --> 01:01:16,406 AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. 1662 01:01:16,406 --> 01:01:17,607 AS CASEY STATED, WE WANT TO 1663 01:01:17,607 --> 01:01:21,044 CHANGE OUR TAX RATE FROM 3500 TO 1664 01:01:21,044 --> 01:01:23,379 $5000. AND AFTER A STABILIZATION 1665 01:01:23,379 --> 01:01:26,115 PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, WE'LL ADD 1666 01:01:26,115 --> 01:01:26,816 $200 A YEAR TO ACCOUNT FOR 1667 01:01:26,816 --> 01:01:28,317 INFLATION. THE REASON WE DO 1668 01:01:28,317 --> 01:01:30,319 THIS, RATHER THAN HAVING A 1669 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:35,725 SIMPLE CPI ADJUSTMENT, IS 1670 01:01:35,725 --> 01:01:36,225 BECAUSE THESE ARE SELF 1671 01:01:36,225 --> 01:01:37,994 ASSESSMENTS. AND SO HAVING ODD 1672 01:01:37,994 --> 01:01:39,729 NUMBERS BECOMES CONFUSING FOR 1673 01:01:39,729 --> 01:01:40,930 FOLKS THAT ARE FILLING OUT 1674 01:01:40,930 --> 01:01:43,666 FORMS. SO WE WANTED SOMETHING 1675 01:01:43,666 --> 01:01:44,600 THAT WILL ALIGN ROUGHLY WITH 1676 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,235 INFLATION JUST TO KEEP UP WITH 1677 01:01:46,235 --> 01:01:48,771 OUR EXPENSES, BUT NOT CONFUSE 1678 01:01:48,771 --> 01:01:52,909 OUR RATEPAYERS. BY THE WAY, THIS 1679 01:01:52,909 --> 01:01:56,245 MAX WAS SET IN 2001 THROUGH AN 1680 01:01:56,245 --> 01:02:00,183 AMENDMENT OF 33,500 AND THOSE 1681 01:02:00,183 --> 01:02:03,319 NOT PAYING THE MAX ARE SMALLER 1682 01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:05,455 BUSINESSES PAY ON A FORMULA, AND 1683 01:02:05,455 --> 01:02:09,759 AS THEIR REVENUES INCREASED, 1684 01:02:09,759 --> 01:02:10,960 THEY PAY MORE. BUT THE MAX 1685 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,096 PAYERS HAVE NOT PAID MORE SINCE 1686 01:02:13,096 --> 01:02:14,063 2001. SO REALLY, THIS IS A FIX 1687 01:02:14,063 --> 01:02:17,033 TO THAT LEGISLATION SO THAT WE 1688 01:02:17,033 --> 01:02:20,303 CAN MAKE THE ASSESSMENTS MORE 1689 01:02:20,303 --> 01:02:21,938 EQUITABLE FOR ALL BUSINESSES IN 1690 01:02:21,938 --> 01:02:23,873 THE BROADWAY BIA, WE'RE ALSO 1691 01:02:23,873 --> 01:02:26,142 REMOVING THE SEATTLE CENTRAL 1692 01:02:26,142 --> 01:02:28,010 COLLEGE EXEMPTION IN THIS 1693 01:02:28,010 --> 01:02:29,879 LEGISLATION. AND SO SEATTLE 1694 01:02:29,879 --> 01:02:31,647 CENTRAL COLLEGE WILL BECOME A 1695 01:02:31,647 --> 01:02:34,650 MAX PAYER. AND THEN WE'RE 1696 01:02:34,650 --> 01:02:36,953 SHRINKING THE BIA MAP BY ONE 1697 01:02:36,953 --> 01:02:38,121 BUSINESS BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS 1698 01:02:38,121 --> 01:02:41,591 NATURALLY PART OF PIKE PINE. AND 1699 01:02:41,591 --> 01:02:43,693 RATHER THAN BEING PART OF THE 1700 01:02:43,693 --> 01:02:47,363 BROADWAY BUSINESS DISTRICT WHY 1701 01:02:47,363 --> 01:02:48,865 NOW? WELL, THE COST FOR GARBAGE 1702 01:02:48,865 --> 01:02:51,033 PICKUP AND GRAFFITI ABATEMENT 1703 01:02:51,033 --> 01:02:53,102 HAVE INCREASED WITH INFLATION. 1704 01:02:53,102 --> 01:02:55,204 AND YET OUR ASSESSMENTS, 1705 01:02:55,204 --> 01:02:56,372 ESPECIALLY FROM OUR TAX PAYERS, 1706 01:02:56,372 --> 01:02:59,108 HAVE REMAINED RELATIVELY FLAT. 1707 01:02:59,108 --> 01:03:00,943 SO THIS CREATES A MORE EQUITABLE 1708 01:03:00,943 --> 01:03:02,445 ASSESSMENT FOR ALL AND ALLOWS 1709 01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:03,780 THE BIA TO CONTINUE AT CURRENT 1710 01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:05,882 SERVICE LEVELS, PLUS ADD BACK 1711 01:03:05,882 --> 01:03:08,317 PROMOTION, BEAUTIFICATION 1712 01:03:08,317 --> 01:03:11,354 BUDGETS, EVENT SPONSORSHIP AND 1713 01:03:11,354 --> 01:03:16,025 MORE. THE RATEPAYER OUTREACH 1714 01:03:16,025 --> 01:03:17,593 THAT WE DID, WE NOTIFIED ALL OF 1715 01:03:17,593 --> 01:03:21,597 OUR MAX RATEPAYERS, EITHER BY 1716 01:03:21,597 --> 01:03:22,231 EMAIL OR BY DISTRIBUTING A FLIER 1717 01:03:22,231 --> 01:03:25,468 IN PERSON, OR GOING IN AND 1718 01:03:25,468 --> 01:03:28,371 TALKING TO LIKE A BANK MANAGER, 1719 01:03:28,371 --> 01:03:29,806 A BRANCH MANAGER FROM ALL THOSE 1720 01:03:29,806 --> 01:03:32,775 WHO RESPONDED, WE GOT POSITIVE 1721 01:03:32,775 --> 01:03:35,945 RESPONSES. THERE WERE NO NO'S TO 1722 01:03:35,945 --> 01:03:38,114 THE LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE 1723 01:03:38,114 --> 01:03:39,148 PROPOSING FROM ANY OF THE FOLKS 1724 01:03:39,148 --> 01:03:41,884 THAT WE ENGAGE WITH, THE ONE 1725 01:03:41,884 --> 01:03:44,153 RATEPAYER WITH SPECIAL EXEMPTION 1726 01:03:44,153 --> 01:03:46,956 SMC OF $1,500 WAS IN FAVOR OF 1727 01:03:46,956 --> 01:03:53,529 THE MAX PAYER RATE. NOW. AND 1728 01:03:53,529 --> 01:03:55,565 JUST OUR ESTEEMED BOARD, WHICH 1729 01:03:55,565 --> 01:03:56,699 WE'VE ACTUALLY SINCE ADDED TO 1730 01:03:56,699 --> 01:03:57,600 IN THE LAST WEEK. SO THIS IS 1731 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,638 ALREADY OUT OF DATE. WE'RE 1732 01:04:02,638 --> 01:04:04,373 GROWING. AND YEAH, THIS 1733 01:04:04,373 --> 01:04:05,741 LEGISLATION JUST REALLY INTENDS 1734 01:04:05,741 --> 01:04:08,711 TO HELP KEEP BROADWAY A 1735 01:04:08,711 --> 01:04:12,949 WELCOMING, SAFE, CLEAN PLACE 1736 01:04:12,949 --> 01:04:15,017 FOR, FOR ALL OF OUR VISITORS AND 1737 01:04:15,017 --> 01:04:16,819 OUR BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR 1738 01:04:16,819 --> 01:04:18,955 YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY 1739 01:04:18,955 --> 01:04:20,089 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE 1740 01:04:20,089 --> 01:04:21,791 WORK YOU DO AND FOR BEING BEFORE 1741 01:04:21,791 --> 01:04:23,192 COMMITTEE TODAY. COLLEAGUES, 1742 01:04:23,192 --> 01:04:24,227 I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO 1743 01:04:24,227 --> 01:04:25,628 QUESTIONS FIRST. AND A REMINDER. 1744 01:04:25,628 --> 01:04:26,229 FOLLOWING QUESTIONS, WE WILL 1745 01:04:26,229 --> 01:04:32,368 HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING 1746 01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:34,070 A HAND FIRST FROM VICE CHAIR 1747 01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:37,106 FOSTER AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THAT 1748 01:04:37,106 --> 01:04:37,740 COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH. 1749 01:04:37,740 --> 01:04:38,541 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR 1750 01:04:38,541 --> 01:04:39,308 RINCK, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR 1751 01:04:39,308 --> 01:04:39,942 BEING HERE TODAY. I APPRECIATE 1752 01:04:39,942 --> 01:04:42,211 YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME 1753 01:04:42,211 --> 01:04:43,613 DOWN. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A 1754 01:04:43,613 --> 01:04:46,282 QUESTION ABOUT HOW YOU DECIDED 1755 01:04:46,282 --> 01:04:48,451 ON THE INCREASE FROM 3500 TO 1756 01:04:48,451 --> 01:04:49,685 5000. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT 1757 01:04:49,685 --> 01:04:50,953 HASN'T BEEN INCREASED SINCE I 1758 01:04:50,953 --> 01:04:53,222 THINK I HEARD YOU SAY 2001. AND 1759 01:04:53,222 --> 01:04:55,491 SO IT DOES SEEM FAIRLY MODEST. 1760 01:04:55,491 --> 01:04:56,425 AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF I CAN 1761 01:04:56,425 --> 01:04:57,460 HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW 1762 01:04:57,460 --> 01:05:00,529 YOU LANDED ON THAT MAXIMUM 1763 01:05:00,529 --> 01:05:00,763 NUMBER. 1764 01:05:00,763 --> 01:05:02,665 -- YEAH. THAT THAT FIGURE WAS 1765 01:05:02,665 --> 01:05:05,067 DECIDED UPON BY DISCUSSION 1766 01:05:05,067 --> 01:05:09,038 THROUGH THE BOARD. AND LOTS OF 1767 01:05:09,038 --> 01:05:10,606 NUMBERS WERE BANDIED ABOUT, I 1768 01:05:10,606 --> 01:05:12,141 THINK, IN THE ECONOMIC CLIMATE 1769 01:05:12,141 --> 01:05:14,744 THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN, WE 1770 01:05:14,744 --> 01:05:17,780 DIDN'T WANT TO PLACE UNDUE 1771 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:20,483 BURDEN ON ANY OF OUR RATEPAYERS. 1772 01:05:20,483 --> 01:05:21,918 AND SO BASICALLY, THE INTENT WAS 1773 01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:23,886 TO STABILIZE OUR BUDGET. AND 1774 01:05:23,886 --> 01:05:25,488 WITH THIS PARTICULAR FORMULA 1775 01:05:25,488 --> 01:05:27,690 THAT DOES THAT 1776 01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:29,091 -- THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE 1777 01:05:29,091 --> 01:05:30,860 FOLLOW UP QUESTION. AND THAT 1778 01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:32,094 MAKES A TON OF SENSE. THERE'S WE 1779 01:05:32,094 --> 01:05:34,230 ARE ALL MANAGING INCREASED COSTS 1780 01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:36,699 AND INFLATION, AS YOU ALREADY 1781 01:05:36,699 --> 01:05:37,700 DISCUSSED, MY FOLLOW UP IS JUST 1782 01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:42,004 IF YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WITH THIS 1783 01:05:42,004 --> 01:05:44,206 INCREASE, THE, THE TERM THAT IT 1784 01:05:44,206 --> 01:05:46,275 MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN YOU FOR 1785 01:05:46,275 --> 01:05:48,144 JUST KNOWING YOU HAVEN'T BEEN 25 1786 01:05:48,144 --> 01:05:50,012 YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M 1787 01:05:50,012 --> 01:05:51,247 CURIOUS HOW YOU SORT OF THOUGHT 1788 01:05:51,247 --> 01:05:52,982 ABOUT THE FUTURE OR IF THIS MAY 1789 01:05:52,982 --> 01:05:54,350 BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE UP 1790 01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:55,151 AGAIN, A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE 1791 01:05:55,151 --> 01:05:57,553 ROAD, IF THAT WAS PART OF THE 1792 01:05:57,553 --> 01:05:57,853 DISCUSSION. 1793 01:05:57,853 --> 01:06:01,290 -- YEAH. WELL, WE PUT AN 1794 01:06:01,290 --> 01:06:01,924 ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN STARTING 1795 01:06:01,924 --> 01:06:03,392 FIVE YEARS AFTER THIS 1796 01:06:03,392 --> 01:06:04,694 LEGISLATION WOULD GO INTO EFFECT 1797 01:06:04,694 --> 01:06:06,228 STARTING IN 2032. SO THERE THERE 1798 01:06:06,228 --> 01:06:08,130 WOULD BE ADJUSTMENTS FOR 1799 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:09,565 INFLATION, INFLATION LATER ON. 1800 01:06:09,565 --> 01:06:12,601 HOWEVER, IN THE MEANTIME, 1801 01:06:12,601 --> 01:06:14,136 BROADWAY IS GOING TO BE 1802 01:06:14,136 --> 01:06:15,738 EXPLORING MOVING TO A PROPERTY 1803 01:06:15,738 --> 01:06:16,339 BASED MODEL OR ESTABLISHING A 1804 01:06:16,339 --> 01:06:17,873 BRAND NEW BIA AND SUNSETTING 1805 01:06:17,873 --> 01:06:20,343 THIS PARTICULAR MODEL AS 1806 01:06:20,343 --> 01:06:22,878 PROPERTY BASED ASSESSMENTS ARE 1807 01:06:22,878 --> 01:06:25,614 MORE SUSTAINABLE THAN B BASED 1808 01:06:25,614 --> 01:06:25,948 ASSESSMENTS. 1809 01:06:25,948 --> 01:06:28,384 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU 1810 01:06:28,384 --> 01:06:28,617 CHAIR. 1811 01:06:28,617 --> 01:06:30,386 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. FOSTER 1812 01:06:30,386 --> 01:06:33,556 COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH. 1813 01:06:33,556 --> 01:06:34,890 -- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 1814 01:06:34,890 --> 01:06:36,759 YOU, CASEY, AND AGAIN FOR BEING 1815 01:06:36,759 --> 01:06:39,895 HERE. FULLY SUPPORT THIS. AND 1816 01:06:39,895 --> 01:06:41,263 JUST I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 1817 01:06:41,263 --> 01:06:43,099 BECAUSE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE 1818 01:06:43,099 --> 01:06:46,602 BROADWAY BIA AND ALL THE WORK 1819 01:06:46,602 --> 01:06:47,236 EGAN DOES. VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL 1820 01:06:47,236 --> 01:06:48,604 THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE, 1821 01:06:48,604 --> 01:06:50,873 JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THE 1822 01:06:50,873 --> 01:06:52,508 NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW IT'S A 1823 01:06:52,508 --> 01:06:53,442 IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE WITH, 1824 01:06:53,442 --> 01:06:54,443 YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THE STUFF 1825 01:06:54,443 --> 01:06:56,012 THAT WE'VE SEEN, BUT JUST 1826 01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:57,413 REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK 1827 01:06:57,413 --> 01:06:59,148 THAT YOU'VE DONE. AND I THINK 1828 01:06:59,148 --> 01:07:00,483 OFTENTIMES NORTH BROADWAY, THE 1829 01:07:00,483 --> 01:07:01,550 AREA THAT YOU COVERED, KIND OF 1830 01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:03,052 GETS LEFT OUT OF THE MIX BECAUSE 1831 01:07:03,052 --> 01:07:07,189 WE GET SO FOCUSED ON PIKE, PINE 1832 01:07:07,189 --> 01:07:07,790 CORRIDOR THAT WE FORGET THAT 1833 01:07:07,790 --> 01:07:11,060 THERE'S A LARGE PART OF CAPITOL 1834 01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:12,294 HILL THAT EXTENDS TO NORTH 1835 01:07:12,294 --> 01:07:13,729 BROADWAY. AND THEN THE AREA THAT 1836 01:07:13,729 --> 01:07:14,630 THE BIA COVERS. AND SO WANTING 1837 01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:17,500 TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE 1838 01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:18,567 RESOURCES ARE BEING PROVIDED 1839 01:07:18,567 --> 01:07:19,668 FOR, FOR YOU ALL AND SUPPORT 1840 01:07:19,668 --> 01:07:22,004 FROM THE CITY. SO JUST SAYING 1841 01:07:22,004 --> 01:07:23,773 THANK YOU. HAPPY TO VOTE ON THIS 1842 01:07:23,773 --> 01:07:24,373 TODAY AND THE CONTINUED WORK 1843 01:07:24,373 --> 01:07:27,610 THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING WITH THE 1844 01:07:27,610 --> 01:07:28,644 BROADWAY BIA. SO THANK YOU 1845 01:07:28,644 --> 01:07:30,112 AGAIN, AND THANK YOU, CASEY, FOR 1846 01:07:30,112 --> 01:07:32,381 ALL YOUR WORK AS WELL. 1847 01:07:32,381 --> 01:07:35,217 -- THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 1848 01:07:35,217 --> 01:07:35,885 -- THANK YOU FOR THOSE REMARKS. 1849 01:07:35,885 --> 01:07:39,755 COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I HAVE JUST 1850 01:07:39,755 --> 01:07:40,389 TWO QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS 1851 01:07:40,389 --> 01:07:41,557 FOR THE RECORD. AND THANK YOU 1852 01:07:41,557 --> 01:07:42,358 AGAIN FOR, AGAIN, THE WORK YOU 1853 01:07:42,358 --> 01:07:43,826 DO AND FOR WALKING US THROUGH 1854 01:07:43,826 --> 01:07:47,630 ALL OF THIS TODAY. WHAT I'M 1855 01:07:47,630 --> 01:07:49,432 HEARING IS THAT THESE CHANGES 1856 01:07:49,432 --> 01:07:50,065 ARE JUST TO MAKE ASSESSMENTS FOR 1857 01:07:50,065 --> 01:07:51,500 THE MAX RATEPAYERS TO MAKE THIS 1858 01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:53,536 MORE EQUITABLE, CORRECT? 1859 01:07:53,536 --> 01:07:55,704 -- THAT'S CORRECT. IT CURRENTLY 1860 01:07:55,704 --> 01:07:57,706 AFFECTS ABOUT 24 OF OUR 1861 01:07:57,706 --> 01:07:59,508 RATEPAYERS. WE HAVE ABOUT 150. 1862 01:07:59,508 --> 01:08:01,877 SO ABOUT ONE SIXTH OF OUR 1863 01:08:01,877 --> 01:08:02,411 RATEPAYERS ARE AFFECTED. 1864 01:08:02,411 --> 01:08:02,912 -- OKAY. 1865 01:08:02,912 --> 01:08:03,479 -- YOU ALREADY ANSWERED MY 1866 01:08:03,479 --> 01:08:04,814 FOLLOW UP QUESTION. 1867 01:08:04,814 --> 01:08:05,347 -- [LAUGHTER] 1868 01:08:05,347 --> 01:08:06,382 -- SO 24 RATEPAYERS. 1869 01:08:06,382 --> 01:08:06,715 -- [LAUGHTER] 1870 01:08:06,715 --> 01:08:07,049 -- WONDERFUL. 1871 01:08:07,049 --> 01:08:10,052 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, 1872 01:08:10,052 --> 01:08:11,487 COLLEAGUES, IT'S FOR THE I'M 1873 01:08:11,487 --> 01:08:12,922 NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL HANDS. 1874 01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:14,123 SO I AM GOING TO KEEP US MOVING. 1875 01:08:14,123 --> 01:08:14,924 AND AGAIN, BEFORE WE VOTE ON 1876 01:08:14,924 --> 01:08:17,927 THIS ITEM, WE THE COMMITTEE MUST 1877 01:08:17,927 --> 01:08:20,029 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO, 1878 01:08:20,029 --> 01:08:23,065 AS PRESIDING OFFICER, I AM NOW 1879 01:08:23,065 --> 01:08:25,201 OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 1880 01:08:25,201 --> 01:08:25,768 COUNCIL BILL 121272 PUBLIC 1881 01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:28,604 COMMENT RELATING TO COUNCIL BILL 1882 01:08:28,604 --> 01:08:30,873 121272 IS ONLY BEING ACCEPTED AT 1883 01:08:30,873 --> 01:08:33,275 THIS TIME. CLERK HOW MANY 1884 01:08:33,275 --> 01:08:33,909 SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP FOR THE 1885 01:08:33,909 --> 01:08:35,377 PUBLIC HEARING? 1886 01:08:35,377 --> 01:08:36,345 -- WE HAVE ONE IN-PERSON SPEAKER 1887 01:08:36,345 --> 01:08:38,347 AND ONE REMOTE SPEAKER. 1888 01:08:38,347 --> 01:08:39,882 -- EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN 1889 01:08:39,882 --> 01:08:41,117 TWO MINUTES AND CLERK. I WILL 1890 01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:44,019 HAND IT OVER TO YOU TO PRESENT 1891 01:08:44,019 --> 01:08:44,453 THE INSTRUCTIONS. 1892 01:08:44,453 --> 01:08:45,454 -- SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED ON IN 1893 01:08:45,454 --> 01:08:47,189 THE ORDER OF REGISTRATION. THE 1894 01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:51,460 PUBLIC HEARING REGISTRATION WILL 1895 01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:52,094 REMAIN OPEN UNTIL THE CONCLUSION 1896 01:08:52,094 --> 01:08:53,462 OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. THE SAME 1897 01:08:53,462 --> 01:08:54,263 PUBLIC COMMENT RULES APPLY TO 1898 01:08:54,263 --> 01:08:56,599 THIS PUBLIC HEARING. A TEN 1899 01:08:56,599 --> 01:08:57,266 SECOND TIME WILL BE YOUR NOTICE 1900 01:08:57,266 --> 01:08:58,400 WHEN IT IS TIME TO WRAP UP. 1901 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,035 COMMENTS. SPEAKERS MICS WILL BE 1902 01:09:00,035 --> 01:09:02,037 MUTED AT THE END OF THE ALLOTTED 1903 01:09:02,037 --> 01:09:03,606 TIME. SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO 1904 01:09:03,606 --> 01:09:07,276 BEGIN THEIR COMMENTS BY STATING 1905 01:09:07,276 --> 01:09:07,576 THEIR NAME. 1906 01:09:07,576 --> 01:09:12,381 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR FIRST 1907 01:09:12,381 --> 01:09:14,750 IN-PERSON SPEAKER AND ONLY 1908 01:09:14,750 --> 01:09:18,354 IN-PERSON SPEAKER IS GRANT 1909 01:09:18,354 --> 01:09:18,587 BOWKER. 1910 01:09:18,587 --> 01:09:20,556 -- GOOD MORNING. 1911 01:09:20,556 --> 01:09:22,324 -- THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, 1912 01:09:22,324 --> 01:09:25,794 CHAIRPERSON AND COUNCIL. I'M 1913 01:09:25,794 --> 01:09:27,930 GRANT BOWKER WITH SEATTLE 1914 01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:29,999 CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND I JUST WANT 1915 01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:33,702 TO CONFIRM WHAT EAGAN HAS STATED 1916 01:09:33,702 --> 01:09:36,739 THERE IS WE HAVE UNDERPAID, IN 1917 01:09:36,739 --> 01:09:41,410 MY OPINION, AND FOR 25 YEARS. 1918 01:09:41,410 --> 01:09:43,579 AND WE ARE PROBABLY THE LARGEST 1919 01:09:43,579 --> 01:09:45,214 FOOTPRINT IN THE BROADWAY 1920 01:09:45,214 --> 01:09:46,815 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO WE 1921 01:09:46,815 --> 01:09:49,785 FIND IT TO BE ABSOLUTELY 1922 01:09:49,785 --> 01:09:52,721 EQUITABLE FOR US TO HAVE OUR 1923 01:09:52,721 --> 01:09:53,923 LIMIT INCREASED, QUITE FRANKLY, 1924 01:09:53,923 --> 01:09:55,958 DOUBLE OF WHAT WE PAY IS WHAT WE 1925 01:09:55,958 --> 01:09:58,260 WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE. BUT 1926 01:09:58,260 --> 01:10:00,863 THIS IS A GREAT START FOR US AND 1927 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,165 THE VALUE THAT WE RECEIVE IS 1928 01:10:03,165 --> 01:10:06,168 MASSIVE. SO WE ARE IN FULL 1929 01:10:06,168 --> 01:10:08,404 SUPPORT OF THIS. THANK YOU. 1930 01:10:08,404 --> 01:10:09,038 -- GREAT. 1931 01:10:09,038 --> 01:10:10,773 -- THANK YOU. GRANT. WE'LL NOW 1932 01:10:10,773 --> 01:10:13,442 MOVE TO OUR REMOTE AND REMOTE 1933 01:10:13,442 --> 01:10:15,578 SPEAKER. BUT HEARING FROM THE 1934 01:10:15,578 --> 01:10:19,615 CLERK THAT THEY ARE NOT PRESENT. 1935 01:10:19,615 --> 01:10:20,983 SO GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. WE 1936 01:10:20,983 --> 01:10:23,219 HAVE NOW HEARD FROM OUR LAST 1937 01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,020 REGISTERED SPEAKER AT THIS 1938 01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:27,189 PUBLIC HEARING. AND WITH THAT, 1939 01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:28,991 THE PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL 1940 01:10:28,991 --> 01:10:31,193 BILL ONE TWO, 1272 IS NOW 1941 01:10:31,193 --> 01:10:33,362 CLOSED. SO THIS ITEM IS 1942 01:10:33,362 --> 01:10:34,630 SCHEDULED FOR A VOTE ON THE SAME 1943 01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:35,431 DAY AS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE 1944 01:10:35,431 --> 01:10:37,166 RULES MUST BE SUSPENDED TO ALLOW 1945 01:10:37,166 --> 01:10:38,434 US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE 1946 01:10:38,434 --> 01:10:39,868 TODAY. SO IF THERE IS NO 1947 01:10:39,868 --> 01:10:41,937 OBJECTION, THE RULES WILL BE 1948 01:10:41,937 --> 01:10:42,571 SUSPENDED TO ALLOW THE COMMITTEE 1949 01:10:42,571 --> 01:10:43,973 TO VOTE ON COUNCIL BILL ONE, 1950 01:10:43,973 --> 01:10:45,841 TWO, ONE, TWO, SEVEN TWO. THE 1951 01:10:45,841 --> 01:10:49,144 SAME DAY A PUBLIC HEARING WAS 1952 01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:52,381 HELD. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO 1953 01:10:52,381 --> 01:10:53,916 OBJECTION, I MOVE THAT THE 1954 01:10:53,916 --> 01:10:55,851 COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 1955 01:10:55,851 --> 01:10:58,153 COUNCIL BILL 121272. IS THERE A 1956 01:10:58,153 --> 01:10:58,387 SECOND? 1957 01:10:58,387 --> 01:10:59,388 -- SECOND. 1958 01:10:59,388 --> 01:11:00,689 -- IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO 1959 01:11:00,689 --> 01:11:01,423 RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL. 1960 01:11:01,423 --> 01:11:04,560 ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS? 1961 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,829 HEARING AND SEEING? NONE. WILL 1962 01:11:06,829 --> 01:11:07,463 THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL 1963 01:11:07,463 --> 01:11:09,331 ON THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION 1964 01:11:09,331 --> 01:11:11,634 TO PASS THE BILL? 1965 01:11:11,634 --> 01:11:12,101 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 1966 01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:13,936 -- YES. 1967 01:11:13,936 --> 01:11:14,403 -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT 1968 01:11:14,403 --> 01:11:15,971 HOLLINGSWORTH. I COUNCILMEMBER 1969 01:11:15,971 --> 01:11:19,174 SAKA. I CHAIR RINCK. 1970 01:11:19,174 --> 01:11:20,376 -- YES. 1971 01:11:20,376 --> 01:11:20,943 -- CHAIR. THERE ARE FOUR IN 1972 01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:23,112 FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. 1973 01:11:23,112 --> 01:11:24,246 -- THANK YOU. THE MOTION CARRIES 1974 01:11:24,246 --> 01:11:25,414 AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION 1975 01:11:25,414 --> 01:11:27,549 THAT THE BILL PASS WILL BE SENT 1976 01:11:27,549 --> 01:11:28,283 TO THE SEPTEMBER 15th FULL CITY 1977 01:11:28,283 --> 01:11:29,985 COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU SO 1978 01:11:29,985 --> 01:11:30,185 MUCH. 1979 01:11:30,185 --> 01:11:31,620 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 1980 01:11:31,620 --> 01:11:33,522 -- THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY. 1981 01:11:33,522 --> 01:11:34,890 -- ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WE 1982 01:11:34,890 --> 01:11:35,624 WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR THIRD ITEM 1983 01:11:35,624 --> 01:11:36,892 OF BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK 1984 01:11:36,892 --> 01:11:39,461 PLEASE READ ITEM THREE INTO THE 1985 01:11:39,461 --> 01:11:41,897 RECORD 1986 01:11:41,897 --> 01:11:43,866 -- ITEM THREE COUNCIL BILL ONE, 1987 01:11:43,866 --> 01:11:46,902 TWO, 1266. AN ORDINANCE RELATING 1988 01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:47,436 TO DOMESTIC WORKERS LABOR 1989 01:11:47,436 --> 01:11:50,406 STANDARDS IN SEATTLE. AMENDING 1990 01:11:50,406 --> 01:11:56,078 SECTIONS 1423, 01014, 23020 AND 1991 01:11:56,078 --> 01:11:58,280 1423095 TO THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL 1992 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,518 CODE AND ADDING NEW SECTIONS. 1993 01:12:02,518 --> 01:12:07,323 14230251423, 127 AND 1423128 TO 1994 01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:10,159 THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE TO 1995 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:10,726 ESTABLISH WRITTEN AGREEMENT 1996 01:12:10,726 --> 01:12:13,729 REQUIREMENTS. ESTABLISH 1997 01:12:13,729 --> 01:12:15,164 PROTECTIONS FOR ENTITLED, PAID 1998 01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:18,367 AND UNPAID LEAVE, INCLUDING 1999 01:12:18,367 --> 01:12:18,934 RETALIATION PROTECTION FOR 2000 01:12:18,934 --> 01:12:20,402 TAKING PERMISSIBLE TIME OFF, 2001 01:12:20,402 --> 01:12:23,706 REQUIRING HIDDEN REQUIRE HIRING 2002 01:12:23,706 --> 01:12:25,441 ENTITIES TO CREATE AND RETAIN 2003 01:12:25,441 --> 01:12:28,377 RECORDS AND ADVANCE NOTICE OF 2004 01:12:28,377 --> 01:12:30,713 TERMINATION REQUIREMENTS. UPDATE 2005 01:12:30,713 --> 01:12:32,448 REMEDY PROVISIONS AND CONFORM TO 2006 01:12:32,448 --> 01:12:33,148 CERTAIN CHANGES TO STATE LAW AND 2007 01:12:33,148 --> 01:12:35,751 WITH THE CITY LABOR STANDARDS 2008 01:12:35,751 --> 01:12:36,852 FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE 2009 01:12:36,852 --> 01:12:37,052 VOTE. 2010 01:12:37,052 --> 01:12:37,786 -- THANK YOU TO THE CLERK FOR 2011 01:12:37,786 --> 01:12:39,988 READING THE LONG TITLE. 2012 01:12:39,988 --> 01:12:41,457 COLLEAGUES, WE WERE BRIEFED ON 2013 01:12:41,457 --> 01:12:43,759 THIS ITEM DURING OUR LAST 2014 01:12:43,759 --> 01:12:44,893 COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 7th 2015 01:12:44,893 --> 01:12:46,495 BY THE OFFICE OF LABOR 2016 01:12:46,495 --> 01:12:47,096 STANDARDS. AND TODAY WE HAVE 2017 01:12:47,096 --> 01:12:48,397 KARINA BULL FROM CENTRAL STAFF 2018 01:12:48,397 --> 01:12:50,632 AT THE TABLE TO GIVE US A QUICK 2019 01:12:50,632 --> 01:12:52,901 REMINDER ON WHAT CHANGES, WHAT 2020 01:12:52,901 --> 01:12:54,136 THOSE CHANGES TO THE AMENDED 2021 01:12:54,136 --> 01:12:54,770 DOMESTIC WORKERS ORDINANCE ARE 2022 01:12:54,770 --> 01:12:56,405 BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE ON THE 2023 01:12:56,405 --> 01:12:57,072 LEGISLATION. I'LL TURN IT TO 2024 01:12:57,072 --> 01:12:58,107 YOU, KARINA. 2025 01:12:58,107 --> 01:12:59,441 -- GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE 2026 01:12:59,441 --> 01:13:01,276 MEMBERS. KARINA BULL FROM 2027 01:13:01,276 --> 01:13:02,311 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. I HAVE A 2028 01:13:02,311 --> 01:13:04,480 VERY BRIEF ONE MINUTE SUMMARY OF 2029 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:05,714 THE ORDINANCE. IT SOUNDS A LOT 2030 01:13:05,714 --> 01:13:07,616 LIKE THE ORDINANCE TITLE, BUT I 2031 01:13:07,616 --> 01:13:10,986 AM AVAILABLE TO ASK OR TO ANSWER 2032 01:13:10,986 --> 01:13:12,521 ANY QUESTIONS. IF COUNCILMEMBERS 2033 01:13:12,521 --> 01:13:14,723 WOULD LIKE TO GO DEEPER. COUNCIL 2034 01:13:14,723 --> 01:13:17,092 BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, SIX SIX 2035 01:13:17,092 --> 01:13:19,328 WOULD AMEND THE DOMESTIC WORKERS 2036 01:13:19,328 --> 01:13:22,297 ORDINANCE, SEATTLE MUNICIPAL 2037 01:13:22,297 --> 01:13:24,733 CODE 14.23 TO INCORPORATE 2038 01:13:24,733 --> 01:13:25,300 DOMESTIC WORKER PROTECTIONS 2039 01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:26,869 PASSED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE 2040 01:13:26,869 --> 01:13:29,037 EARLIER THIS YEAR. REFLECT 2041 01:13:29,037 --> 01:13:31,540 RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE 2042 01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:32,174 DOMESTIC WORKER STANDARDS BOARD 2043 01:13:32,174 --> 01:13:34,209 AND ADOPT TYPICAL PROVISIONS AND 2044 01:13:34,209 --> 01:13:36,779 OTHER SEATTLE LABOR STANDARDS. 2045 01:13:36,779 --> 01:13:39,114 SPECIFICALLY, THESE AMENDMENTS 2046 01:13:39,114 --> 01:13:39,581 WOULD REQUIRE WRITTEN 2047 01:13:39,581 --> 01:13:41,517 AGREEMENTS, ADVANCE NOTICE OF 2048 01:13:41,517 --> 01:13:43,685 TERMINATION AND RECORDS 2049 01:13:43,685 --> 01:13:44,586 RETENTION, EXPLICITLY PROHIBIT 2050 01:13:44,586 --> 01:13:47,322 HIRING ENTITIES FROM RETALIATING 2051 01:13:47,322 --> 01:13:48,791 AGAINST THE DOMESTIC WORKER FOR 2052 01:13:48,791 --> 01:13:51,193 USING THEIR ENTITLED LEAVE 2053 01:13:51,193 --> 01:13:54,029 UPDATE ENFORCEMENT REMEDIES TO 2054 01:13:54,029 --> 01:13:54,630 INCLUDE INFLATION, INFLATION 2055 01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:55,898 ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN 2056 01:13:55,898 --> 01:13:58,033 EFFECT BUT WOULD BE REFLECTED IN 2057 01:13:58,033 --> 01:14:00,035 THE ORDINANCE AND ALSO ADD 2058 01:14:00,035 --> 01:14:02,871 FINES. LAST, THE AMENDMENTS 2059 01:14:02,871 --> 01:14:04,573 WOULD ADD PROVISIONS TO PROHIBIT 2060 01:14:04,573 --> 01:14:05,440 WAIVER OF RIGHTS AND TO 2061 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:08,944 ENCOURAGE MORE GENEROUS 2062 01:14:08,944 --> 01:14:10,345 POLICIES. THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD 2063 01:14:10,345 --> 01:14:13,182 GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1st, 2064 01:14:13,182 --> 01:14:14,950 2027, THE SAME DATE THAT THE NEW 2065 01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:16,819 STATE DOMESTIC WORKER 2066 01:14:16,819 --> 01:14:18,120 PROTECTIONS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT 2067 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,188 AND THE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE 2068 01:14:19,188 --> 01:14:21,023 IMPLEMENTED BY THE OFFICE OF 2069 01:14:21,023 --> 01:14:23,892 LABOR STANDARDS. THERE ARE NO 2070 01:14:23,892 --> 01:14:24,560 AMENDMENTS FOR THE COMMITTEE'S 2071 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,628 CONSIDERATION 2072 01:14:26,628 --> 01:14:28,597 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE 2073 01:14:28,597 --> 01:14:29,665 OVERVIEW, KARINA. COLLEAGUES, I 2074 01:14:29,665 --> 01:14:30,432 KNOW WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF 2075 01:14:30,432 --> 01:14:32,935 DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO THE 2076 01:14:32,935 --> 01:14:33,569 DOMESTIC WORKERS ORDINANCE, AS 2077 01:14:33,569 --> 01:14:35,237 WELL AS THE WORK OF THE DOMESTIC 2078 01:14:35,237 --> 01:14:36,505 WORKER STANDARDS BOARD. I'D LIKE 2079 01:14:36,505 --> 01:14:37,239 TO OPEN IT UP TO YOU ALL IF YOU 2080 01:14:37,239 --> 01:14:39,007 HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KARINA 2081 01:14:39,007 --> 01:14:48,750 TODAY I AM NOT SEEING ANY HANDS 2082 01:14:48,750 --> 01:14:50,185 AND COLLEAGUES. AS A REMINDER, 2083 01:14:50,185 --> 01:14:51,320 WE DO INTEND TO VOTE TODAY. I 2084 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,089 KNOW THERE WERE NO AMENDMENTS 2085 01:14:54,089 --> 01:14:59,261 THAT CAME FORWARD ON THIS. AND 2086 01:14:59,261 --> 01:15:00,729 HEARING AND SEEING NONE, I'M 2087 01:15:00,729 --> 01:15:02,698 GOING TO MOVE US TOWARDS A VOTE, 2088 01:15:02,698 --> 01:15:04,433 WHICH I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT. 2089 01:15:04,433 --> 01:15:07,603 SO WITH THAT, I MOVE TO 2090 01:15:07,603 --> 01:15:09,338 RECOMMEND PARDON ME, I MOVE THAT 2091 01:15:09,338 --> 01:15:09,972 THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE 2092 01:15:09,972 --> 01:15:11,874 OF COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, 2093 01:15:11,874 --> 01:15:14,176 TWO, SIX, SIX. IS THERE A 2094 01:15:14,176 --> 01:15:14,710 SECOND? 2095 01:15:14,710 --> 01:15:15,010 -- SECOND. 2096 01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:16,545 -- THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND 2097 01:15:16,545 --> 01:15:17,646 SECONDED TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 2098 01:15:17,646 --> 01:15:19,314 THE BILL. ARE THERE ANY FINAL 2099 01:15:19,314 --> 01:15:23,285 COMMENTS ALL RIGHT. WILL THE 2100 01:15:23,285 --> 01:15:25,587 COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 2101 01:15:25,587 --> 01:15:27,322 ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE 2102 01:15:27,322 --> 01:15:28,624 RECOMMENDATION TO PASS THE BILL? 2103 01:15:28,624 --> 01:15:30,459 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2104 01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:30,692 -- YES. 2105 01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:34,029 -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT 2106 01:15:34,029 --> 01:15:35,230 HOLLINGSWORTH. I COUNCILMEMBER 2107 01:15:35,230 --> 01:15:37,132 SAKA. AYE. CHAIR RINCK. 2108 01:15:37,132 --> 01:15:37,866 -- YES. 2109 01:15:37,866 --> 01:15:40,102 -- THERE ARE FOUR IN FAVOR, ZERO 2110 01:15:40,102 --> 01:15:40,369 OPPOSED. 2111 01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:41,637 -- THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE 2112 01:15:41,637 --> 01:15:42,304 COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT 2113 01:15:42,304 --> 01:15:43,739 THE BILL PASS WILL BE SENT TO 2114 01:15:43,739 --> 01:15:45,173 THE SEPTEMBER 15th FULL CITY 2115 01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:46,542 COUNCIL MEETING. HUGE THANK YOU 2116 01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:48,377 TO THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS 2117 01:15:48,377 --> 01:15:48,944 FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. 2118 01:15:48,944 --> 01:15:50,812 THANK YOU AGAIN, KARINA, FOR 2119 01:15:50,812 --> 01:15:51,947 YOUR WORK ON THIS AS WELL. AND 2120 01:15:51,947 --> 01:15:53,482 TO THE DOMESTIC WORKER STANDARDS 2121 01:15:53,482 --> 01:15:54,750 BOARD FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE 2122 01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:55,751 PUT IN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL 2123 01:15:55,751 --> 01:16:00,055 MONTHS TO BRING US TO TODAY. 2124 01:16:00,055 --> 01:16:01,189 THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, WE 2125 01:16:01,189 --> 01:16:02,591 WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR FOURTH ITEM 2126 01:16:02,591 --> 01:16:05,594 OF BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK 2127 01:16:05,594 --> 01:16:07,829 PLEASE READ THE ITEM INTO THE 2128 01:16:07,829 --> 01:16:08,096 RECORD.? 2129 01:16:08,096 --> 01:16:10,933 -- ITEM FOUR COUNCIL BILL ONE, 2130 01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:14,202 21267. AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO 2131 01:16:14,202 --> 01:16:17,139 PROHIBITING ALGORITHMIC BASED 2132 01:16:17,139 --> 01:16:17,773 PRICE DISCRIMINATION REQUIRING 2133 01:16:17,773 --> 01:16:19,875 COVERED RETAILERS DISCLOSURES TO 2134 01:16:19,875 --> 01:16:21,877 CONSUMERS REQUIRING THAT COVERED 2135 01:16:21,877 --> 01:16:22,778 RETAILERS RETAIN CERTAIN 2136 01:16:22,778 --> 01:16:25,147 RECORDS, AND ADDING A NEW 2137 01:16:25,147 --> 01:16:26,281 CHAPTER 7.35 TO THE SEATTLE 2138 01:16:26,281 --> 01:16:28,216 MUNICIPAL CODE FOR BRIEFING AND 2139 01:16:28,216 --> 01:16:29,651 DISCUSSION. 2140 01:16:29,651 --> 01:16:31,520 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW, 2141 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,588 BEFORE OUR CENTRAL STAFF 2142 01:16:33,588 --> 01:16:34,022 PRESENTS ON POLICY 2143 01:16:34,022 --> 01:16:34,656 CONSIDERATIONS, I WANT TO TAKE A 2144 01:16:34,656 --> 01:16:36,825 MOMENT TO BRIEFLY SPEAK TO WHAT 2145 01:16:36,825 --> 01:16:38,927 OUR FAIR PRICING AND 2146 01:16:38,927 --> 01:16:41,330 TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE IS AND 2147 01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:42,297 ISN'T, AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE 2148 01:16:42,297 --> 01:16:45,434 PROCESS. THIS BILL IS FOCUSED 2149 01:16:45,434 --> 01:16:47,669 SOLELY ON PREVENTING BIG 2150 01:16:47,669 --> 01:16:49,271 COMPANIES FROM USING OUR 2151 01:16:49,271 --> 01:16:51,606 PERSONAL INFORMATION TO SET 2152 01:16:51,606 --> 01:16:53,742 UNIQUE PRICES FOR EACH OF US 2153 01:16:53,742 --> 01:16:55,711 INDIVIDUALLY. THAT'S IT. THIS 2154 01:16:55,711 --> 01:16:56,311 BILL DOES NOT PREVENT SENIOR 2155 01:16:56,311 --> 01:16:59,181 DISCOUNTS OR GAS REWARDS. THIS 2156 01:16:59,181 --> 01:17:00,315 BILL DOES NOT PREVENT MEMBERSHIP 2157 01:17:00,315 --> 01:17:01,984 REWARDS OR CARD CLUB, SAVINGS 2158 01:17:01,984 --> 01:17:04,820 CLUB, CARD SAVINGS COMPANIES CAN 2159 01:17:04,820 --> 01:17:05,854 STILL OFFER A DISCOUNT TO SIGN 2160 01:17:05,854 --> 01:17:07,322 UP OR COME BACK. THIS BILL DOES 2161 01:17:07,322 --> 01:17:09,625 NOT IMPACT OUR INDEPENDENT 2162 01:17:09,625 --> 01:17:11,259 GROCERS OR ETHNIC MARKETS AT 2163 01:17:11,259 --> 01:17:13,662 ALL. THIS BILL DOES NOT STOP 2164 01:17:13,662 --> 01:17:15,831 COMPANIES FROM GIVING 2165 01:17:15,831 --> 01:17:17,632 SEATTLEITES COUPONS. NOW, AFTER 2166 01:17:17,632 --> 01:17:19,468 MONTHS OF DEEP ENGAGEMENT WITH 2167 01:17:19,468 --> 01:17:21,370 PRIVACY AND CONSUMER PROTECTION 2168 01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:23,672 EXPERTS, COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, 2169 01:17:23,672 --> 01:17:24,773 LABOR AND INDUSTRY, MY TEAM AND 2170 01:17:24,773 --> 01:17:26,108 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE CRAFTED THIS 2171 01:17:26,108 --> 01:17:26,908 BILL TO PUT GUARDRAILS ON ONE 2172 01:17:26,908 --> 01:17:29,578 SPECIFIC PRACTICE LARGE GROCERY 2173 01:17:29,578 --> 01:17:34,016 AND DELIVERY COMPANIES SETTING, 2174 01:17:34,016 --> 01:17:34,616 ALTERING OR MANIPULATING THE 2175 01:17:34,616 --> 01:17:35,884 PRICE OF GOODS BASED ON 2176 01:17:35,884 --> 01:17:37,786 MONITORING, TRACKING, OR 2177 01:17:37,786 --> 01:17:39,855 AUTOMATED ANALYSIS OF OUR 2178 01:17:39,855 --> 01:17:40,288 BEHAVIOR, LOCATION, 2179 01:17:40,288 --> 01:17:42,324 DEMOGRAPHICS, BIOMETRIC DATA, OR 2180 01:17:42,324 --> 01:17:44,526 OTHER PERSONAL INFORMATION, 2181 01:17:44,526 --> 01:17:46,328 INCLUDING PERSONAL INFORMATION 2182 01:17:46,328 --> 01:17:48,697 ACQUIRED FROM A THIRD PARTY OR 2183 01:17:48,697 --> 01:17:50,032 PERSONAL INFORMATION THAT IS 2184 01:17:50,032 --> 01:17:51,767 GATHERED, PURCHASED, OR 2185 01:17:51,767 --> 01:17:52,367 COLLECTED BY THESE COMPANIES 2186 01:17:52,367 --> 01:17:54,936 USING ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE 2187 01:17:54,936 --> 01:17:56,204 TECHNOLOGY. AND IN OUR LAST 2188 01:17:56,204 --> 01:17:58,874 COMMITTEE MEETING, WE HEARD FROM 2189 01:17:58,874 --> 01:17:59,441 THE EXECUTIVE AND NATIONAL 2190 01:17:59,441 --> 01:18:01,276 EXPERTS ON AI AND CIVIL 2191 01:18:01,276 --> 01:18:02,577 LIBERTIES ON THE DETAILS OF THIS 2192 01:18:02,577 --> 01:18:04,713 BILL AND WHY WE NEED IT NOW. 2193 01:18:04,713 --> 01:18:06,782 TODAY, WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR 2194 01:18:06,782 --> 01:18:08,283 INDEPENDENT CENTRAL STAFF'S 2195 01:18:08,283 --> 01:18:08,917 OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS ON THE BILL 2196 01:18:08,917 --> 01:18:10,318 AND HEAR DIRECTLY FROM 2197 01:18:10,318 --> 01:18:12,254 COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMITTEE 2198 01:18:12,254 --> 01:18:13,622 ABOUT THEIR AMENDMENT CONCEPTS. 2199 01:18:13,622 --> 01:18:15,023 SO WITH THAT, I WILL NOW TURN IT 2200 01:18:15,023 --> 01:18:16,591 OVER TO CENTRAL STAFF TO PROCEED 2201 01:18:16,591 --> 01:18:18,160 WITH THEIR PRESENTATION. THANK 2202 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,729 YOU SO MUCH. 2203 01:18:20,729 --> 01:18:22,330 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 2204 01:18:22,330 --> 01:18:25,467 MY NAME IS JASMINE MARWAHA ON 2205 01:18:25,467 --> 01:18:25,967 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 2206 01:18:25,967 --> 01:18:28,537 -- GOOD MORNING, TOMMASO JOHNSON 2207 01:18:28,537 --> 01:18:29,371 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. WE ARE 2208 01:18:29,371 --> 01:18:31,606 HERE TO WALK YOU THROUGH A 2209 01:18:31,606 --> 01:18:32,941 PRESENTATION THAT PROVIDES A 2210 01:18:32,941 --> 01:18:34,910 SUMMARY OF OUR ANALYSIS MEMO ON 2211 01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:37,446 THIS LEGISLATION. THE MEMO WHICH 2212 01:18:37,446 --> 01:18:40,182 YOU ARE IN RECEIPT OF, IS ALSO 2213 01:18:40,182 --> 01:18:43,385 POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR MEMBERS 2214 01:18:43,385 --> 01:18:44,553 OF THE PUBLIC. THIS BILL, FAIR 2215 01:18:44,553 --> 01:18:46,688 PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY COUNCIL 2216 01:18:46,688 --> 01:18:52,160 BILL ONE, TWO, 1267. AS A 2217 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,628 BACKGROUND, AS YOU MENTIONED, 2218 01:18:53,628 --> 01:18:55,230 AND AS WAS DISCUSSED IN MORE 2219 01:18:55,230 --> 01:18:57,032 DETAIL DURING THE LAST COMMITTEE 2220 01:18:57,032 --> 01:18:59,601 MEETING, THIS BILL IS INTENDED 2221 01:18:59,601 --> 01:19:03,138 TO ADDRESS THE CONCEPT OF 2222 01:19:03,138 --> 01:19:05,273 SURVEILLANCE PRICING, ALSO KNOWN 2223 01:19:05,273 --> 01:19:06,675 AS INDIVIDUALIZED PRICING. THE 2224 01:19:06,675 --> 01:19:07,876 BILL, THE TERMINOLOGY USED IN 2225 01:19:07,876 --> 01:19:08,743 THE BILL IS DIFFERENT, BUT JUST 2226 01:19:08,743 --> 01:19:10,879 BY WAY OF BACKGROUND 2227 01:19:10,879 --> 01:19:13,648 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING IS BASED 2228 01:19:13,648 --> 01:19:16,251 ON A COMBINATION OF TECHNOLOGY 2229 01:19:16,251 --> 01:19:19,287 AND BUSINESS PRACTICES, WHERE 2230 01:19:19,287 --> 01:19:19,888 INFORMATION ABOUT INDIVIDUAL 2231 01:19:19,888 --> 01:19:21,423 CONSUMERS IS GATHERED, 2232 01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:23,525 AGGREGATED AND ANALYZED, AND 2233 01:19:23,525 --> 01:19:25,460 THEN UTILIZED TO VARY THE PRICE 2234 01:19:25,460 --> 01:19:28,263 PRESENTED TO THE CONSUMER WE'LL 2235 01:19:28,263 --> 01:19:29,731 WE'LL HEAR DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN 2236 01:19:29,731 --> 01:19:33,235 PRICE POSTED PRICE AND 2237 01:19:33,235 --> 01:19:36,404 DISCOUNTS. AND THERE'S SOME 2238 01:19:36,404 --> 01:19:38,273 DIFFERENCE OF TERMINOLOGY THERE 2239 01:19:38,273 --> 01:19:40,175 WHEN DESCRIBING THE PRICES THAT 2240 01:19:40,175 --> 01:19:41,576 PEOPLE PAY. BUT WHEN WE USE 2241 01:19:41,576 --> 01:19:43,211 PRICING IN THIS CONTEXT, WE'RE 2242 01:19:43,211 --> 01:19:44,546 REFERRING TO THE PRICE THAT 2243 01:19:44,546 --> 01:19:47,048 SOMEONE PAYS, WHICH MAY OR MAY 2244 01:19:47,048 --> 01:19:48,416 NOT REFLECT A DISCOUNT OR BE THE 2245 01:19:48,416 --> 01:19:52,187 POSTED PRICE. SO IN GENERAL, AS 2246 01:19:52,187 --> 01:19:54,356 I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE 2247 01:19:54,356 --> 01:19:55,690 PRACTICE KNOWN AS SURVEILLANCE 2248 01:19:55,690 --> 01:19:56,224 PRICING OR INDIVIDUALIZED 2249 01:19:56,224 --> 01:20:00,529 PRICING. THE TERM THAT THIS BILL 2250 01:20:00,529 --> 01:20:01,129 USES ALGORITHMIC BASED PRICE 2251 01:20:01,129 --> 01:20:03,965 DISCRIMINATION, CONSUMER 2252 01:20:03,965 --> 01:20:05,734 PROTECTION LAWS IN GENERAL IN 2253 01:20:05,734 --> 01:20:08,370 THIS COUNTRY AND IN WASHINGTON 2254 01:20:08,370 --> 01:20:10,405 STATE ARE WERE CREATED AT A TIME 2255 01:20:10,405 --> 01:20:11,506 BEFORE THE TECHNOLOGY WAS AS 2256 01:20:11,506 --> 01:20:14,209 PREVALENT AS IT IS NOW TO 2257 01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:16,344 REGULATE THIS KIND OF PRICE 2258 01:20:16,344 --> 01:20:18,213 VARIABILITY. THE FREQUENCY AND 2259 01:20:18,213 --> 01:20:20,015 LEVEL OF VARIABILITY TO THE 2260 01:20:20,015 --> 01:20:21,817 INDIVIDUAL CONSUMER. WE'VE SEEN. 2261 01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:23,251 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE 2262 01:20:23,251 --> 01:20:25,787 THAT WE'VE SEEN SOME SEVERAL 2263 01:20:25,787 --> 01:20:28,757 OTHER CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS 2264 01:20:28,757 --> 01:20:31,560 ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THE USE OF 2265 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,062 ALGORITHMS AND PERSONAL 2266 01:20:34,062 --> 01:20:36,231 INFORMATION TO VARY THE PRICE 2267 01:20:36,231 --> 01:20:37,866 PAID FOR GOODS OR SERVICES. THE 2268 01:20:37,866 --> 01:20:39,401 ORDINANCE FROM LAST YEAR, KNOWN 2269 01:20:39,401 --> 01:20:42,137 AS THE ALGORITHMIC ALGORITHMIC 2270 01:20:42,137 --> 01:20:43,738 RENT FIXING ORDINANCE, IS 2271 01:20:43,738 --> 01:20:46,341 ANALOGOUS IN SOME WAYS. THAT 2272 01:20:46,341 --> 01:20:46,942 ORDINANCE SOUGHT TO LIMIT THE 2273 01:20:46,942 --> 01:20:49,678 USE OF ALGORITHMIC VARIABILITY 2274 01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:51,246 IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL RENTAL 2275 01:20:51,246 --> 01:20:53,448 MARKETS, AND AS I SAID, THAT WAS 2276 01:20:53,448 --> 01:20:55,317 PASSED BY THIS COUNCIL LAST 2277 01:20:55,317 --> 01:20:58,420 YEAR. THERE HAVE BEEN RELATED 2278 01:20:58,420 --> 01:20:59,221 LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS IN A NUMBER 2279 01:20:59,221 --> 01:20:59,788 OF JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE 2280 01:20:59,788 --> 01:21:02,390 COUNTRY. THERE ARE CURRENTLY 2281 01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:04,726 THREE STATE LAWS ENACTED ON THIS 2282 01:21:04,726 --> 01:21:06,828 TOPIC. CONNECTICUT. CONNECTICUT, 2283 01:21:06,828 --> 01:21:10,832 MARYLAND AND NEW JERSEY. NEW 2284 01:21:10,832 --> 01:21:12,434 YORK AND COLORADO HAVE ALSO 2285 01:21:12,434 --> 01:21:15,337 PASSED THOSE LEGISLATURES. STATE 2286 01:21:15,337 --> 01:21:16,838 LEGISLATURES HAVE PASSED BILLS 2287 01:21:16,838 --> 01:21:17,606 ADDRESSING THIS TOPIC. I SHOULD 2288 01:21:17,606 --> 01:21:19,641 SAY THAT THAT THERE IS A MORE 2289 01:21:19,641 --> 01:21:23,211 COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY SNAPSHOT 2290 01:21:23,211 --> 01:21:25,013 OF THOSE EFFORTS IN A TABLE AT 2291 01:21:25,013 --> 01:21:32,020 THE END OF THIS MEMO. THERE'S 2292 01:21:32,020 --> 01:21:32,654 ALSO PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT 2293 01:21:32,654 --> 01:21:33,188 HAS NOT BEEN PASSED AT A 2294 01:21:33,188 --> 01:21:33,889 MUNICIPAL LEVEL. THAT'S SIMILAR 2295 01:21:33,889 --> 01:21:35,323 IN SOME WAYS TO THIS EFFORT IN 2296 01:21:35,323 --> 01:21:38,727 PORTLAND, OREGON, THERE WAS AS 2297 01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:40,929 WELL STATE LEGISLATION IN 2298 01:21:40,929 --> 01:21:43,465 WASHINGTON STATE, IN OLYMPIA 2299 01:21:43,465 --> 01:21:44,399 THIS PAST YEAR, THIS PAST 2300 01:21:44,399 --> 01:21:45,100 SESSION, EARLIER IN THE YEAR, IT 2301 01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:48,169 DID NOT PASS THIS YEAR AND WOULD 2302 01:21:48,169 --> 01:21:51,940 NEED TO BE MAYBE REINTRODUCED IN 2303 01:21:51,940 --> 01:21:55,610 SOME FORM DURING THE NEW SESSION 2304 01:21:55,610 --> 01:21:56,711 IN 2027. AS FAR AS WHAT THIS 2305 01:21:56,711 --> 01:21:58,980 BILL DOES, IT WOULD CREATE A NEW 2306 01:21:58,980 --> 01:22:01,616 CHAPTER IN THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL 2307 01:22:01,616 --> 01:22:04,452 CODE 7.35 THAT WOULD HAVE FOUR 2308 01:22:04,452 --> 01:22:06,121 SORT OF CORE REQUIREMENTS. 2309 01:22:06,121 --> 01:22:07,589 NUMBER ONE IS A PROHIBITION ON 2310 01:22:07,589 --> 01:22:09,824 THE USE OF ELECTRONIC SHELF 2311 01:22:09,824 --> 01:22:12,961 LABELS. THAT IS A TECHNOLOGY 2312 01:22:12,961 --> 01:22:15,797 THAT ALLOWS SHELF PRICES IN IN 2313 01:22:15,797 --> 01:22:17,432 PHYSICAL RETAIL ENVIRONMENTS TO 2314 01:22:17,432 --> 01:22:18,667 BE VARIED DYNAMICALLY THROUGH 2315 01:22:18,667 --> 01:22:19,668 DIGITAL LABEL, AS OPPOSED TO THE 2316 01:22:19,668 --> 01:22:21,870 MORE TRADITIONAL PRINTED SHELF 2317 01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:24,639 LABEL. IT WOULD ALSO CREATE A 2318 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:25,807 PROHIBITION ON WHAT THE BILL 2319 01:22:25,807 --> 01:22:28,476 DEFINES AS ALGORITHMIC BASED 2320 01:22:28,476 --> 01:22:30,712 PRICE DISCRIMINATION. THIS 2321 01:22:30,712 --> 01:22:32,180 PROHIBITION WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO 2322 01:22:32,180 --> 01:22:33,548 THE SALE OF GROCERIES AND 2323 01:22:33,548 --> 01:22:35,750 CERTAIN OTHER ITEMS, AND IT 2324 01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:36,384 WOULD INCLUDE EXCEPTIONS, WHICH 2325 01:22:36,384 --> 01:22:37,185 I WILL BE DISCUSSING 2326 01:22:37,185 --> 01:22:39,087 MOMENTARILY. IT WOULD ALSO PUT 2327 01:22:39,087 --> 01:22:41,389 NEW DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS ON 2328 01:22:41,389 --> 01:22:43,325 CERTAIN INFORMATION RELATED TO 2329 01:22:43,325 --> 01:22:45,126 PRICING AND DISCOUNTS BY THOSE 2330 01:22:45,126 --> 01:22:46,861 COVERED RETAILERS, AND IT WOULD 2331 01:22:46,861 --> 01:22:51,766 ALSO ADDRESS RECORD KEEPING 2332 01:22:51,766 --> 01:22:52,334 RELATED TO COMPLIANCE. THIS 2333 01:22:52,334 --> 01:22:55,403 BILL, IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE, 2334 01:22:55,403 --> 01:22:57,105 THIS BILL USES SEVERAL DEFINED 2335 01:22:57,105 --> 01:22:59,708 TERMS. THE COVERED RETAILERS 2336 01:22:59,708 --> 01:23:01,776 WOULD INCLUDE THREE BROAD 2337 01:23:01,776 --> 01:23:03,511 CATEGORIES. FIRST AND FOREMOST 2338 01:23:03,511 --> 01:23:04,279 IS GROCERY BUSINESSES. THOSE ARE 2339 01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:05,814 BUSINESSES THAT ARE ENGAGED 2340 01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:06,414 PRIMARILY IN THE SELLING OF 2341 01:23:06,414 --> 01:23:08,049 GROCERIES FOR OFF SITE 2342 01:23:08,049 --> 01:23:11,052 CONSUMPTION. IT EXPLICITLY 2343 01:23:11,052 --> 01:23:13,054 EXCLUDES CONVENIENCE STORES AND 2344 01:23:13,054 --> 01:23:15,056 FARMERS MARKETS. AND AS WAS 2345 01:23:15,056 --> 01:23:17,359 MENTIONED EARLIER, IT ALSO 2346 01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:19,027 APPLIES ONLY TO TO GROCERS OF A 2347 01:23:19,027 --> 01:23:21,096 CERTAIN SIZE. SO THOSE 2348 01:23:21,096 --> 01:23:23,665 REQUIREMENTS ARE 10,000FT OR 2349 01:23:23,665 --> 01:23:26,034 MORE IN THE STORE, AND 20 OR 2350 01:23:26,034 --> 01:23:27,502 MORE LOCATIONS WORLDWIDE. THE 2351 01:23:27,502 --> 01:23:28,870 TERM THAT THE BILL USES IS 2352 01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:31,239 GLOBALLY, BUT ACROSS THE WORLD. 2353 01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:32,574 SECONDLY, MIXED USE GROCERY 2354 01:23:32,574 --> 01:23:34,776 BUSINESSES ARE DEFINED AS THOSE 2355 01:23:34,776 --> 01:23:36,678 BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT 2356 01:23:36,678 --> 01:23:37,312 EXCLUSIVELY SELL GROCERIES BUT 2357 01:23:37,312 --> 01:23:39,614 HAVE AT LEAST TEN ZERO ZERO ZERO 2358 01:23:39,614 --> 01:23:41,616 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE IN 2359 01:23:41,616 --> 01:23:42,717 THEIR STORE DEDICATED TO THE 2360 01:23:42,717 --> 01:23:44,686 SALE OF GROCERIES AND REGULATED 2361 01:23:44,686 --> 01:23:46,921 GOODS. IN THOSE MIXED USE 2362 01:23:46,921 --> 01:23:49,224 BUSINESSES WOULD INCLUDE 2363 01:23:49,224 --> 01:23:50,959 GROCERIES AS WELL AS GROOMING 2364 01:23:50,959 --> 01:23:52,093 PRODUCTS, HYGIENE PRODUCTS AND 2365 01:23:52,093 --> 01:23:54,696 OVER-THE-COUNTER DRUGS SOLD 2366 01:23:54,696 --> 01:23:57,198 THERE. LASTLY, DELIVERY SERVICE 2367 01:23:57,198 --> 01:23:59,000 PROVIDERS ARE THOSE ENTITIES 2368 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,668 THAT FACILITATE THE DELIVERY OR 2369 01:24:00,668 --> 01:24:02,404 ONLINE ORDERING FROM ONE OF THE 2370 01:24:02,404 --> 01:24:04,606 ABOVE CATEGORIES OF BUSINESSES 2371 01:24:04,606 --> 01:24:06,441 COVERING THE SAME CATEGORIES OF 2372 01:24:06,441 --> 01:24:07,675 GOODS FOR EACH BUSINESS TYPE AND 2373 01:24:07,675 --> 01:24:10,712 THE REQUIREMENT THERE IS THAT 2374 01:24:10,712 --> 01:24:12,580 THAT DELIVERY SERVICE PROVIDER 2375 01:24:12,580 --> 01:24:16,851 HAVE 100 OR MORE EMPLOYEES 2376 01:24:16,851 --> 01:24:18,686 WORLDWIDE. THE CORE OF THIS BILL 2377 01:24:18,686 --> 01:24:20,822 IS THIS TERM DEFINED TERM 2378 01:24:20,822 --> 01:24:22,457 ALGORITHMIC BASED PRICE 2379 01:24:22,457 --> 01:24:25,060 DISCRIMINATION, WHICH IS DEFINED 2380 01:24:25,060 --> 01:24:26,494 AS, QUOTE, THE SETTING, ALTERING 2381 01:24:26,494 --> 01:24:27,862 OR MANIPULATING OF THE PRICE OF 2382 01:24:27,862 --> 01:24:29,597 GOODS BASED ON MONITORING, 2383 01:24:29,597 --> 01:24:30,231 TRACKING, OR AUTOMATED ANALYSIS 2384 01:24:30,231 --> 01:24:32,067 OF A CONSUMER'S BEHAVIOR, 2385 01:24:32,067 --> 01:24:34,736 LOCATION, DEMOGRAPHIC 2386 01:24:34,736 --> 01:24:36,371 CHARACTERISTICS, BIOMETRIC DATA, 2387 01:24:36,371 --> 01:24:37,906 OR OTHER PERSONAL INFORMATION. 2388 01:24:37,906 --> 01:24:40,108 THIS IS A CATCH ALL DEFINITION 2389 01:24:40,108 --> 01:24:42,477 THAT INCLUDES THE TERM RANDOM 2390 01:24:42,477 --> 01:24:44,946 VARIATIONS IN PRICE BETWEEN 2391 01:24:44,946 --> 01:24:47,449 DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS. THERE ARE 2392 01:24:47,449 --> 01:24:48,016 EXCEPTIONS BUILT INTO THIS 2393 01:24:48,016 --> 01:24:50,752 DEFINITION, SO CATEGORIES OF 2394 01:24:50,752 --> 01:24:53,388 PRICE VARIATION THAT ARE NOT 2395 01:24:53,388 --> 01:24:55,857 CONSIDERED TO BE ALGORITHMIC 2396 01:24:55,857 --> 01:24:58,693 BASED, ALGORITHM BASED PRICE 2397 01:24:58,693 --> 01:24:59,194 DISCRIMINATION INCLUDE 2398 01:24:59,194 --> 01:24:59,928 VARIATIONS IN PRICE BASED ON 2399 01:24:59,928 --> 01:25:04,866 DELIVERY, COST OR LOCATION PER 2400 01:25:04,866 --> 01:25:05,366 PHYSICAL STORE PRICING 2401 01:25:05,366 --> 01:25:06,501 VARIATION, AS LONG AS THAT 2402 01:25:06,501 --> 01:25:08,002 VARIATION IS AVAILABLE TO ALL 2403 01:25:08,002 --> 01:25:10,271 CONSUMER CUSTOMERS AT THAT 2404 01:25:10,271 --> 01:25:12,874 STORE. THIRD PARTY OR 2405 01:25:12,874 --> 01:25:13,408 MANUFACTURERS COUPONS ARE 2406 01:25:13,408 --> 01:25:16,077 EXEMPTED, PROVIDED THAT THEY DO 2407 01:25:16,077 --> 01:25:19,547 NOT. THERE IS NOT A USE OR 2408 01:25:19,547 --> 01:25:20,081 SHARING OF THAT CUSTOMER 2409 01:25:20,081 --> 01:25:22,183 INFORMATION DISCOUNTS ARE ALSO 2410 01:25:22,183 --> 01:25:23,651 ALLOWED TO MEMBERS OF A GROUP, A 2411 01:25:23,651 --> 01:25:26,321 BROADLY DEFINED, COMMONLY 2412 01:25:26,321 --> 01:25:27,989 ACCEPTED GROUP. EXAMPLES. A 2413 01:25:27,989 --> 01:25:28,623 NON-EXCLUSIVE LIST OF EXAMPLES 2414 01:25:28,623 --> 01:25:32,760 IS PROVIDED. TEACHERS, STUDENTS, 2415 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,063 VETERANS, EMPLOYEES, SENIORS, ET 2416 01:25:35,063 --> 01:25:36,297 CETERA. AND LASTLY, DISCOUNTS. 2417 01:25:36,297 --> 01:25:37,765 OR I SHOULD SAY FINALLY ON THIS 2418 01:25:37,765 --> 01:25:40,001 SLIDE, DISCOUNTS BASED ON 2419 01:25:40,001 --> 01:25:42,403 ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA POTENTIALLY 2420 01:25:42,403 --> 01:25:43,605 AVAILABLE TO ANY CUSTOMER AT 2421 01:25:43,605 --> 01:25:46,007 THAT STORE, SUCH AS BULK 2422 01:25:46,007 --> 01:25:47,008 PURCHASES, PARTICIPATION IN A 2423 01:25:47,008 --> 01:25:49,878 MAILING LIST OR OTHER 2424 01:25:49,878 --> 01:25:51,846 PROMOTIONS. FINALLY, AND MAYBE 2425 01:25:51,846 --> 01:25:53,715 MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR THE TOPIC 2426 01:25:53,715 --> 01:25:55,016 OF DISCUSSION ON THIS BILL, IS 2427 01:25:55,016 --> 01:25:57,552 THE EXEMPTIONS RELATED TO 2428 01:25:57,552 --> 01:25:59,053 PARTICIPATION IN A LOYALTY 2429 01:25:59,053 --> 01:26:02,357 MEMBERSHIP OR REWARDS PROGRAM. 2430 01:26:02,357 --> 01:26:06,394 THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE PREMISED ON 2431 01:26:06,394 --> 01:26:08,596 THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS. THAT 2432 01:26:08,596 --> 01:26:09,531 PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM IS 2433 01:26:09,531 --> 01:26:12,400 VOLUNTARY. OPT IN. AFFIRMATIVE 2434 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,369 ENROLL ENROLLMENT DISCOUNTS ARE 2435 01:26:14,369 --> 01:26:16,204 AVAILABLE TO ALL MEMBERS OF THAT 2436 01:26:16,204 --> 01:26:19,707 LOYALTY MEMBERSHIP REWARDS 2437 01:26:19,707 --> 01:26:21,576 PROGRAM. DISCOUNTS ARE ALLOWED 2438 01:26:21,576 --> 01:26:23,611 TO SUBSETS OF THE PROGRAM THAT 2439 01:26:23,611 --> 01:26:27,248 USE PRIOR PURCHASE HISTORY. THIS 2440 01:26:27,248 --> 01:26:28,483 DISCOUNT TYPE MUST BE BASED ON 2441 01:26:28,483 --> 01:26:30,718 TIERS, AS OPPOSED TO 2442 01:26:30,718 --> 01:26:31,352 INDIVIDUALIZED PERSONAL CONSUMER 2443 01:26:31,352 --> 01:26:32,620 PURCHASE, PURCHASE HISTORY, AND 2444 01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:34,956 PRICING. AND THOSE TIERS ARE 2445 01:26:34,956 --> 01:26:36,224 ALLOWED TO BE BASED ONLY ON 2446 01:26:36,224 --> 01:26:38,226 PRIOR PURCHASE HISTORY WITHOUT 2447 01:26:38,226 --> 01:26:39,861 THE USE OF OTHER PERSONAL INFO 2448 01:26:39,861 --> 01:26:44,365 OR THIRD PARTY DATA RETENTION 2449 01:26:44,365 --> 01:26:47,035 AND ENROLLMENT DISCOUNTS ARE 2450 01:26:47,035 --> 01:26:50,004 ALSO ALLOWED. THOSE DISCOUNTS 2451 01:26:50,004 --> 01:26:53,107 ARE DESIGNED TO ENTICE A MEMBER 2452 01:26:53,107 --> 01:26:53,741 WHO IS CONTEMPLATING LEAVING THE 2453 01:26:53,741 --> 01:26:55,610 PROGRAM, OR WHO HAS LAPSED AND 2454 01:26:55,610 --> 01:26:56,477 IS NOW BEING TARGETED FOR 2455 01:26:56,477 --> 01:26:59,747 REENROLLMENT, WHICH INCLUDES 2456 01:26:59,747 --> 01:27:02,417 SO-CALLED CROSS-SELLING OF 2457 01:27:02,417 --> 01:27:03,051 SIMILAR RELATED ITEMS. HOWEVER, 2458 01:27:03,051 --> 01:27:03,551 THOSE DISCOUNTS MUST BE 2459 01:27:03,551 --> 01:27:06,888 AVAILABLE ON EQUAL TERMS TO ALL 2460 01:27:06,888 --> 01:27:14,896 SIMILARLY SITUATED CONSUMERS. 2461 01:27:14,896 --> 01:27:18,700 -- ACCORDING TO THE POLICY 2462 01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:20,735 CONSIDERATIONS, WE HAVE LIKE 3 2463 01:27:20,735 --> 01:27:21,970 OR 4 TO DISCUSS, AND FIRST IS 2464 01:27:21,970 --> 01:27:22,704 THE CONSIDERATION OF 2465 01:27:22,704 --> 01:27:23,271 PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS. SO 2466 01:27:23,271 --> 01:27:23,838 INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS HAVE 2467 01:27:23,838 --> 01:27:24,439 CLAIMED THAT THE LEGISLATION 2468 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:24,906 WOULD LIMIT A COVERED 2469 01:27:24,906 --> 01:27:25,873 RETAILER'S ABILITY TO SET 2470 01:27:25,873 --> 01:27:26,441 PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS THAT 2471 01:27:26,441 --> 01:27:28,843 WOULD BENEFIT CONSUMERS. THE 2472 01:27:28,843 --> 01:27:30,645 LEGISLATION WOULD NOT, FOR 2473 01:27:30,645 --> 01:27:33,681 EXAMPLE, ALLOW THE USE OF AN 2474 01:27:33,681 --> 01:27:34,315 INDIVIDUAL'S PRIOR PURCHASE 2475 01:27:34,315 --> 01:27:35,149 HISTORY TO PROVIDE DISCOUNTS ON 2476 01:27:35,149 --> 01:27:37,418 THEIR COMMONLY PURCHASED ITEMS. 2477 01:27:37,418 --> 01:27:38,019 UNLESS THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS A 2478 01:27:38,019 --> 01:27:40,255 MEMBER OF A RETAILER'S LOYALTY 2479 01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:40,989 PROGRAM AND THE DISCOUNT WAS 2480 01:27:40,989 --> 01:27:46,361 AVAILABLE TO ALL MEMBERS WITH A 2481 01:27:46,361 --> 01:27:46,995 SIMILAR PURCHASE HISTORY GROUPED 2482 01:27:46,995 --> 01:27:47,562 INTO TIERS, THE LEGISLATION 2483 01:27:47,562 --> 01:27:48,096 WOULD ALSO NOT PERMIT ANY 2484 01:27:48,096 --> 01:27:49,897 PERSONALIZED DISCOUNT BASED ON 2485 01:27:49,897 --> 01:27:51,299 AN INDIVIDUAL'S OTHER PERSONAL 2486 01:27:51,299 --> 01:27:54,002 INFORMATION, SUCH AS THEIR 2487 01:27:54,002 --> 01:27:55,203 INTERNET SEARCH. HISTORY IS 2488 01:27:55,203 --> 01:27:55,837 DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER 2489 01:27:55,837 --> 01:27:58,573 THESE LIMITATIONS WOULD RESULT 2490 01:27:58,573 --> 01:28:03,911 IN A NET COST INCREASE FOR 2491 01:28:03,911 --> 01:28:06,447 CONSUMERS. THE SECOND POLICY 2492 01:28:06,447 --> 01:28:06,981 CONSIDERATION RELATES TO 2493 01:28:06,981 --> 01:28:09,150 ENFORCEMENT. THERE ARE TWO 2494 01:28:09,150 --> 01:28:10,318 AVENUES FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE 2495 01:28:10,318 --> 01:28:12,654 BILL. ONE WOULD BE A PRIVATE 2496 01:28:12,654 --> 01:28:13,788 RIGHT OF ACTION OR PRA, AND I 2497 01:28:13,788 --> 01:28:15,089 THINK IT'S WORTH GETTING INTO A 2498 01:28:15,089 --> 01:28:17,592 LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT 2499 01:28:17,592 --> 01:28:19,994 MEANS. SO MANY CITY REGULATIONS 2500 01:28:19,994 --> 01:28:21,162 CONTAIN A PRA PROVISION AS AN 2501 01:28:21,162 --> 01:28:23,731 ALTERNATIVE TO AGENCY 2502 01:28:23,731 --> 01:28:24,332 ENFORCEMENT, A PRA PROVISION 2503 01:28:24,332 --> 01:28:26,167 ALLOWS AN INDIVIDUAL TO FILE A 2504 01:28:26,167 --> 01:28:27,602 CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST A PERSON 2505 01:28:27,602 --> 01:28:29,704 OR ENTITY. WHEN A LAW IS ALLEGED 2506 01:28:29,704 --> 01:28:32,540 TO HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. 2507 01:28:32,540 --> 01:28:34,042 TYPICALLY, A PRA IS NOT THE SOLE 2508 01:28:34,042 --> 01:28:36,010 MEANS OF ENFORCEMENT, BUT RATHER 2509 01:28:36,010 --> 01:28:38,313 AN ALTERNATIVE PATH TO AGENCY 2510 01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:40,848 ACTION. IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 2511 01:28:40,848 --> 01:28:42,116 AGENCY IS DELAYED OR DOES NOT 2512 01:28:42,116 --> 01:28:43,251 HAVE CAPACITY TO PURSUE 2513 01:28:43,251 --> 01:28:45,486 ENFORCEMENT PRA PROVISIONS AMONG 2514 01:28:45,486 --> 01:28:48,089 DIFFERENT REGULATIONS CAN VARY 2515 01:28:48,089 --> 01:28:49,257 WITH DIFFERENCES INCLUDING, BUT 2516 01:28:49,257 --> 01:28:51,059 NOT LIMITED TO, WHETHER CIVIL 2517 01:28:51,059 --> 01:28:53,695 PENALTIES OR FINES, NOT JUST 2518 01:28:53,695 --> 01:28:55,530 DAMAGES, CAN BE ASSESSED. WHO 2519 01:28:55,530 --> 01:28:56,497 WOULD HAVE STANDING TO FILE A 2520 01:28:56,497 --> 01:28:57,699 CIVIL ACTION, AND WHETHER A 2521 01:28:57,699 --> 01:28:59,967 CLASS OF PEOPLE CAN FILE INSTEAD 2522 01:28:59,967 --> 01:29:02,136 OF JUST INDIVIDUALS. SO IN THIS 2523 01:29:02,136 --> 01:29:03,705 CASE, THE BILL ALLOWS FOR A 2524 01:29:03,705 --> 01:29:05,673 CLASS OF INDIVIDUALS TO FILE 2525 01:29:05,673 --> 01:29:08,076 SUIT WITH LIQUIDATED DAMAGES 2526 01:29:08,076 --> 01:29:10,445 ALLOWED UP TO $10,000, FINES OR 2527 01:29:10,445 --> 01:29:12,547 PENALTIES OF $3,000 PER 2528 01:29:12,547 --> 01:29:16,417 VIOLATION, AND UP TO 10,000 PER 2529 01:29:16,417 --> 01:29:17,518 SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION. AND THAT 2530 01:29:17,518 --> 01:29:18,086 FOR PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION 2531 01:29:18,086 --> 01:29:19,487 WOULD BE CAPPED AT $1 MILLION 2532 01:29:19,487 --> 01:29:23,157 PER SUIT. IN ADDITION TO 2533 01:29:23,157 --> 01:29:24,759 LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. THIS, THE 2534 01:29:24,759 --> 01:29:25,893 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IN THIS 2535 01:29:25,893 --> 01:29:28,763 BILL WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL 2536 01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:30,965 COVERED, MIXED USE OR RETAILERS 2537 01:29:30,965 --> 01:29:33,301 OR DELIVERY SERVICE PROVIDERS, 2538 01:29:33,301 --> 01:29:36,504 BUT WOULD ONLY BE AVAILABLE TO 2539 01:29:36,504 --> 01:29:37,138 GROCERIES GROCERY STORES IF THEY 2540 01:29:37,138 --> 01:29:38,306 HAVE 25 OR MORE ESTABLISHMENTS 2541 01:29:38,306 --> 01:29:43,311 IN WASHINGTON STATE. BECAUSE OF 2542 01:29:43,311 --> 01:29:44,078 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION REQUIRES 2543 01:29:44,078 --> 01:29:45,980 ACCESS TO AN ATTORNEY AND AN 2544 01:29:45,980 --> 01:29:47,181 ATTORNEY WHO IS WILLING TO TAKE 2545 01:29:47,181 --> 01:29:49,584 THE CASE. IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER 2546 01:29:49,584 --> 01:29:50,785 THIS WILL BE AN ACCESSIBLE 2547 01:29:50,785 --> 01:29:52,553 AVENUE OF ENFORCEMENT FOR THE 2548 01:29:52,553 --> 01:29:54,822 AVERAGE PERSON. MANY PEOPLE WHO 2549 01:29:54,822 --> 01:29:57,358 SUSPECT ALGORITHMIC BASED PRICE 2550 01:29:57,358 --> 01:29:57,992 DISCRIMINATION MAY INSTEAD TURN 2551 01:29:57,992 --> 01:29:59,894 TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, 2552 01:29:59,894 --> 01:30:00,528 WHICH WOULD BE GIVEN AUTHORITY 2553 01:30:00,528 --> 01:30:02,330 TO INVESTIGATE AND FILE CIVIL 2554 01:30:02,330 --> 01:30:03,831 ACTIONS IN COURT TO ENFORCE THE 2555 01:30:03,831 --> 01:30:08,236 BILL'S PROVISION. THE AVENUE 2556 01:30:08,236 --> 01:30:08,836 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 2557 01:30:08,836 --> 01:30:11,806 AVENUE DOES INCLUDE OR ALLOW FOR 2558 01:30:11,806 --> 01:30:13,141 THE SAME FINES AND LIQUIDATED 2559 01:30:13,141 --> 01:30:13,808 DAMAGES AS THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF 2560 01:30:13,808 --> 01:30:18,880 ACTION, BUT DOES NOT HAVE A CAP 2561 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,449 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS 2562 01:30:21,449 --> 01:30:22,083 BEEN GIVEN NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING 2563 01:30:22,083 --> 01:30:23,184 FOR THIS AND NO FISCAL IMPACTS 2564 01:30:23,184 --> 01:30:26,721 TO THE CITY WERE IDENTIFIED. 2565 01:30:26,721 --> 01:30:27,321 HOWEVER, THE THE ATTORNEY'S 2566 01:30:27,321 --> 01:30:28,489 OFFICE MAY HAVE TO DEVELOP NEW 2567 01:30:28,489 --> 01:30:31,859 SYSTEMS AND PROCEDURES TO HANDLE 2568 01:30:31,859 --> 01:30:33,227 INTAKES DIRECTLY AND MAY NOT 2569 01:30:33,227 --> 01:30:35,630 HAVE CAPACITY TO TO CONDUCT 2570 01:30:35,630 --> 01:30:36,230 THOROUGH INVESTIGATIONS THAT 2571 01:30:36,230 --> 01:30:38,032 WOULD INVOLVE ANALYZING LARGE 2572 01:30:38,032 --> 01:30:39,901 VOLUMES OF DATA. THIS 2573 01:30:39,901 --> 01:30:41,569 LEGISLATION COULD CREATE 2574 01:30:41,569 --> 01:30:42,170 SIGNIFICANT WORKLOAD FOR THE 2575 01:30:42,170 --> 01:30:47,241 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. NOW, 2576 01:30:47,241 --> 01:30:49,210 THE NEXT COUPLE OF POLICY 2577 01:30:49,210 --> 01:30:49,710 CONSIDERATIONS ARE MORE 2578 01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:53,614 CONTEXTUAL. I THINK IN THE MEMO, 2579 01:30:53,614 --> 01:30:54,248 THE EXISTING CONSUMER PROTECTION 2580 01:30:54,248 --> 01:30:55,583 LAWS WERE MORE WERE WERE NOT 2581 01:30:55,583 --> 01:30:58,653 UNDER THE CONTEXTUAL SECTION. IT 2582 01:30:58,653 --> 01:31:01,222 PROBABLY DOES BELONG MORE AS AS 2583 01:31:01,222 --> 01:31:02,490 JUST CONTEXT. THE THERE ARE A 2584 01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:04,325 NUMBER OF EXISTING CONSUMER 2585 01:31:04,325 --> 01:31:05,460 PROTECTION LAWS WHICH, AS TOMASO 2586 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:08,029 MENTIONED, DO NOT NECESSARILY 2587 01:31:08,029 --> 01:31:10,231 COVER THE SPECIFIC INSTANCE OF 2588 01:31:10,231 --> 01:31:10,731 ALGORITHMIC BASED PRICE 2589 01:31:10,731 --> 01:31:12,900 DISCRIMINATION. HOWEVER, THEY DO 2590 01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:17,138 ADDRESS THE NEED FOR 2591 01:31:17,138 --> 01:31:19,474 TRANSPARENCY IN IN PRICING AND 2592 01:31:19,474 --> 01:31:21,676 SO MAY INTERSECT WITH WITH THIS 2593 01:31:21,676 --> 01:31:25,346 ISSUE AS WELL. AND IT'S UNCLEAR 2594 01:31:25,346 --> 01:31:28,649 HOW THOSE THESE LAWS DO 2595 01:31:28,649 --> 01:31:32,320 INTERSECT AND WHETHER WHETHER 2596 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:32,920 STRONGER ENFORCEMENT OR OTHER 2597 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,256 OTHER AVENUES LOOKING AT THESE 2598 01:31:35,256 --> 01:31:38,960 LAWS MIGHT ALSO GET AT THE SAME 2599 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,761 ISSUE. THERE'S ALSO, AS TOMASO 2600 01:31:40,761 --> 01:31:42,096 MENTIONED, THE POTENTIAL FOR 2601 01:31:42,096 --> 01:31:44,599 PREEMPTION AT THE STATE IF IT IS 2602 01:31:44,599 --> 01:31:48,336 CONSIDERED IN THE 2027 2603 01:31:48,336 --> 01:31:51,439 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO THE NEXT 2604 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,074 STEPS TODAY, THE INTENTION, I 2605 01:31:53,074 --> 01:31:54,575 BELIEVE, IS TO DISCUSS ANY 2606 01:31:54,575 --> 01:31:56,410 PLANNED AMENDMENT CONCEPTS AND 2607 01:31:56,410 --> 01:31:58,012 ALSO TO TO ASK QUESTIONS OF 2608 01:31:58,012 --> 01:32:02,283 CENTRAL STAFF FOR ANY CLARIFYING 2609 01:32:02,283 --> 01:32:05,887 QUESTIONS FOR OUR MEMO. THE NEXT 2610 01:32:05,887 --> 01:32:06,520 SPECIAL COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE 2611 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,790 OF THE OF THE HUMAN SERVICES, 2612 01:32:09,790 --> 01:32:10,424 LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 2613 01:32:10,424 --> 01:32:11,058 COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE 2614 01:32:11,058 --> 01:32:12,326 SEPTEMBER 11th, WHERE THERE WILL 2615 01:32:12,326 --> 01:32:14,428 BE A FORMAL PRESENTATION OF 2616 01:32:14,428 --> 01:32:17,565 AMENDMENTS AND AN ANTICIPATED 2617 01:32:17,565 --> 01:32:18,833 COMMITTEE COMMITTEE VOTE IN THE. 2618 01:32:18,833 --> 01:32:20,635 AND THEN IT SHOULD GO ON IF IT 2619 01:32:20,635 --> 01:32:21,602 IS VOTED OUT OF. COMMITTEE WOULD 2620 01:32:21,602 --> 01:32:25,606 GO ON TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON 2621 01:32:25,606 --> 01:32:27,275 SEPTEMBER 22nd. AND WITH THAT, 2622 01:32:27,275 --> 01:32:29,677 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. 2623 01:32:29,677 --> 01:32:31,345 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE 2624 01:32:31,345 --> 01:32:32,213 PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU 2625 01:32:32,213 --> 01:32:34,649 AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS, 2626 01:32:34,649 --> 01:32:35,683 COLLEAGUES. I'LL OPEN IT UP 2627 01:32:35,683 --> 01:32:36,851 FIRST TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS THAT 2628 01:32:36,851 --> 01:32:38,886 YOU HAVE ON THE PRESENTATION AND 2629 01:32:38,886 --> 01:32:46,560 THE BILL 2630 01:32:46,694 --> 01:32:55,569 I AM NOT SEEING ANY HANDS. I'M 2631 01:32:55,569 --> 01:32:57,038 HAPPY TO ASK A COUPLE OF 2632 01:32:57,038 --> 01:32:58,539 QUESTIONS JUST TO GET US GOING. 2633 01:32:58,539 --> 01:33:01,576 WHILE MY COLLEAGUES ARE 2634 01:33:01,576 --> 01:33:03,978 CONSIDERING POTENTIAL QUESTIONS, 2635 01:33:03,978 --> 01:33:05,846 I THINK JUST KICKING US OFF FROM 2636 01:33:05,846 --> 01:33:08,349 YOUR ASSESSMENT, WITHOUT AN 2637 01:33:08,349 --> 01:33:11,619 OBJECTIVE, BONA FIDE MARKET 2638 01:33:11,619 --> 01:33:14,855 PRICE STANDARD, WHAT PREVENTS A 2639 01:33:14,855 --> 01:33:16,824 RETAILER FROM INFLATING NOMINAL 2640 01:33:16,824 --> 01:33:18,826 PRICE AND PRESENTING DIFFERENT 2641 01:33:18,826 --> 01:33:22,229 INDIVIDUALIZED FINAL PRICES AS 2642 01:33:22,229 --> 01:33:28,102 DISCOUNTS? 2643 01:33:28,102 --> 01:33:30,338 -- I THINK IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT 2644 01:33:30,338 --> 01:33:31,939 TO TO SAY, BUT I WOULD I WOULD 2645 01:33:31,939 --> 01:33:34,775 SAY THAT THAT'S PARTLY WHY THE 2646 01:33:34,775 --> 01:33:35,943 CONTEXTUAL POLICY CONSIDERATION 2647 01:33:35,943 --> 01:33:37,311 WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE SENSE THAT 2648 01:33:37,311 --> 01:33:39,780 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT EXISTING 2649 01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:42,350 CONSUMER CONSUMER PROTECTION 2650 01:33:42,350 --> 01:33:44,552 LAWS COULD COULD REGULATE 2651 01:33:44,552 --> 01:33:46,420 WHETHER A PRICE LIKE WHAT WHAT 2652 01:33:46,420 --> 01:33:47,955 EXACTLY IS THE DISPLAYED UNIT 2653 01:33:47,955 --> 01:33:49,924 PRICE AND WHAT AND WHETHER THAT 2654 01:33:49,924 --> 01:33:51,993 CAN CHANGE BASED ON INDIVIDUAL. 2655 01:33:51,993 --> 01:33:56,530 BUT BUT AGAIN, THAT IS UNCLEAR. 2656 01:33:56,530 --> 01:33:57,131 AND SO THIS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, 2657 01:33:57,131 --> 01:33:58,699 THERE'S NOTHING THAT 2658 01:33:58,699 --> 01:34:01,268 SPECIFICALLY BANS THE USE OF, OF 2659 01:34:01,268 --> 01:34:06,907 PERSONAL DATA IN INDIVIDUALIZED 2660 01:34:06,907 --> 01:34:07,174 PRICING. 2661 01:34:07,174 --> 01:34:10,077 -- THANK YOU. AND TAKING US TO 2662 01:34:10,077 --> 01:34:12,480 ELEMENTS RELATED TO ENFORCEMENT, 2663 01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:15,583 IF THEORETICALLY, A PRIVATE 2664 01:34:15,583 --> 01:34:17,451 ENFORCEMENT WAS ELIMINATED AND 2665 01:34:17,451 --> 01:34:18,786 THE CITY ATTORNEY LACKS THE 2666 01:34:18,786 --> 01:34:20,121 CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE 2667 01:34:20,121 --> 01:34:21,655 THIS AS IDENTIFIED IN YOUR MEMO, 2668 01:34:21,655 --> 01:34:23,958 WHAT REMEDY WOULD REALISTICALLY 2669 01:34:23,958 --> 01:34:26,761 REMAIN FOR AN INDIVIDUAL 2670 01:34:26,761 --> 01:34:32,600 CONSUMER SEEKING RECOURSE 2671 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,969 -- WELL, IF THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF 2672 01:34:34,969 --> 01:34:37,571 ACTION WAS ELIMINATED, THE SOLE 2673 01:34:37,571 --> 01:34:38,539 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT WOULD 2674 01:34:38,539 --> 01:34:39,974 REMAIN IN THE BILL WOULD BE THE 2675 01:34:39,974 --> 01:34:42,476 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO I 2676 01:34:42,476 --> 01:34:45,179 THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE 2677 01:34:45,179 --> 01:34:48,215 IDENTIFIED THAT THERE THERE MAY 2678 01:34:48,215 --> 01:34:51,719 BE CHALLENGES OR CAPACITY 2679 01:34:51,719 --> 01:34:52,586 SCALING NEEDED TO EFFECTUATE THE 2680 01:34:52,586 --> 01:34:53,521 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 2681 01:34:53,521 --> 01:34:55,389 ENFORCEMENT. I, I DON'T THINK 2682 01:34:55,389 --> 01:34:56,090 THAT WE'RE SAYING AND I DON'T 2683 01:34:56,090 --> 01:34:57,625 THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 2684 01:34:57,625 --> 01:35:01,695 HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE 2685 01:35:01,695 --> 01:35:02,329 FUNCTIONALLY UNABLE TO ENFORCE 2686 01:35:02,329 --> 01:35:05,132 THIS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WITH 2687 01:35:05,132 --> 01:35:07,068 ANY NEW REGULATORY SCHEME, THERE 2688 01:35:07,068 --> 01:35:10,504 WOULD BE A TIME THAT WOULD BE 2689 01:35:10,504 --> 01:35:12,273 REQUIRED INTERNAL WORK AND 2690 01:35:12,273 --> 01:35:14,075 CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD 2691 01:35:14,075 --> 01:35:16,343 NEED TO HAPPEN. I THINK OUR 2692 01:35:16,343 --> 01:35:19,213 UNDERSTANDING, OUR BELIEF IS 2693 01:35:19,213 --> 01:35:21,348 THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME 2694 01:35:21,348 --> 01:35:22,917 ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD OCCUR. IT 2695 01:35:22,917 --> 01:35:25,252 JUST MAY NOT BE AS ROBUST AS IT 2696 01:35:25,252 --> 01:35:27,755 OTHERWISE WOULD BE. AT THE CITY 2697 01:35:27,755 --> 01:35:30,791 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITHOUT THE 2698 01:35:30,791 --> 01:35:31,292 PROVISION OF ADDITIONAL 2699 01:35:31,292 --> 01:35:33,160 RESOURCES. SO THE THE SHOULD THE 2700 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,129 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION BE 2701 01:35:35,129 --> 01:35:36,363 ELIMINATED WITHOUT ANY OTHER 2702 01:35:36,363 --> 01:35:37,932 CHANGES TO THE CURRENT 2703 01:35:37,932 --> 01:35:39,967 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS? YOU 2704 01:35:39,967 --> 01:35:42,703 KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE ABLE 2705 01:35:42,703 --> 01:35:45,339 TO MAKE COMPLAINTS MAKE REQUESTS 2706 01:35:45,339 --> 01:35:46,407 TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, 2707 01:35:46,407 --> 01:35:49,143 AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 2708 01:35:49,143 --> 01:35:50,644 WOULD EVALUATE AND INVESTIGATE 2709 01:35:50,644 --> 01:35:52,913 TO THE BEST OF THEIR AUTHORITY, 2710 01:35:52,913 --> 01:35:54,748 TO BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. USING 2711 01:35:54,748 --> 01:35:57,585 THIS NEW AUTHORITY. SO I THINK 2712 01:35:57,585 --> 01:35:59,553 IT'S IMPORTANT TO TO SAY, YES, 2713 01:35:59,553 --> 01:36:01,122 YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE 2714 01:36:01,122 --> 01:36:03,858 COULD BE CAPACITY CHALLENGES. 2715 01:36:03,858 --> 01:36:04,992 HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT 2716 01:36:04,992 --> 01:36:07,461 THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY 2717 01:36:07,461 --> 01:36:10,231 ENFORCEMENT OR COMPLAINT 2718 01:36:10,231 --> 01:36:11,832 MECHANISM AVAILABLE TO 2719 01:36:11,832 --> 01:36:13,367 INDIVIDUALS. THEY WOULD BE THEY 2720 01:36:13,367 --> 01:36:15,002 WOULD GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S 2721 01:36:15,002 --> 01:36:16,237 OFFICE, AND THEN THEY WOULD 2722 01:36:16,237 --> 01:36:21,342 RESPOND IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR 2723 01:36:21,342 --> 01:36:21,609 CAPACITY. 2724 01:36:21,609 --> 01:36:23,711 -- JASMINE 2725 01:36:23,711 --> 01:36:25,546 -- YOU KNOW, ANY REGULATORY 2726 01:36:25,546 --> 01:36:29,717 AGENCY AT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, 2727 01:36:29,717 --> 01:36:30,751 WOULD HAVE INTERNAL POLICIES AS 2728 01:36:30,751 --> 01:36:32,219 TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY IF THEY IF 2729 01:36:32,219 --> 01:36:35,189 THEIR COMPLAINTS EXCEED THEIR 2730 01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:36,991 CAPACITY TO THOROUGHLY 2731 01:36:36,991 --> 01:36:39,160 INVESTIGATE AND ENFORCE. AND SO 2732 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,996 OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF THE 2733 01:36:41,996 --> 01:36:43,697 IF THE COMPLAINTS DO EXCEED THE 2734 01:36:43,697 --> 01:36:45,800 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAPACITY, 2735 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,102 THAT THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD 2736 01:36:48,102 --> 01:36:51,805 DEVELOP INTERNAL POLICIES AS TO 2737 01:36:51,805 --> 01:36:53,474 PRIORITIZATION AS WELL AS, YOU 2738 01:36:53,474 --> 01:36:55,442 KNOW, OTHER OTHER AVENUES OF 2739 01:36:55,442 --> 01:36:58,212 GETTING REDRESS. SO 2740 01:36:58,212 --> 01:36:59,346 -- THANK YOU BOTH FOR UNPACKING 2741 01:36:59,346 --> 01:37:00,814 THAT. AND MY LAST QUESTION 2742 01:37:00,814 --> 01:37:01,482 BEFORE I TURN IT BACK TO MY 2743 01:37:01,482 --> 01:37:02,583 COLLEAGUES, IS JUST THINKING 2744 01:37:02,583 --> 01:37:04,652 ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN 2745 01:37:04,652 --> 01:37:07,154 PRACTICE. HOW WOULD REFUNDING 2746 01:37:07,154 --> 01:37:09,523 THE ONE CUSTOMER WHO DISCOVERS A 2747 01:37:09,523 --> 01:37:12,726 VIOLATION CURE AN ALGORITHMIC 2748 01:37:12,726 --> 01:37:16,797 PRICING PRACTICE THAT MAY HAVE 2749 01:37:16,797 --> 01:37:20,935 AFFECTED THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS? 2750 01:37:20,935 --> 01:37:21,836 -- I MEAN, I THINK IT'S HARD TO 2751 01:37:21,836 --> 01:37:24,305 SAY. I THINK THAT THE THE 2752 01:37:24,305 --> 01:37:26,040 IMPLICATION WITH WITHIN YOUR 2753 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,908 QUESTION IS CORRECT TO SOME 2754 01:37:27,908 --> 01:37:31,779 EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW AN 2755 01:37:31,779 --> 01:37:34,882 INDIVIDUAL, AN INDIVIDUAL REFUND 2756 01:37:34,882 --> 01:37:36,884 WOULD NOT NECESSARILY RESOLVE 2757 01:37:36,884 --> 01:37:39,019 THE UNDERLYING ISSUE. I THINK 2758 01:37:39,019 --> 01:37:41,956 THE THE PROHIBITIONS AND THE 2759 01:37:41,956 --> 01:37:42,590 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS THAT ARE 2760 01:37:42,590 --> 01:37:47,194 IN THE BILL RIGHT NOW ARE YOU 2761 01:37:47,194 --> 01:37:48,362 CAN THINK ABOUT THEM SERVING A 2762 01:37:48,362 --> 01:37:49,697 DUAL PURPOSE, RIGHT, WITH THE 2763 01:37:49,697 --> 01:37:50,698 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION, IN 2764 01:37:50,698 --> 01:37:51,899 PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, THERE 2765 01:37:51,899 --> 01:37:53,968 NEEDS TO BE A SPECIFIC INJURY 2766 01:37:53,968 --> 01:37:55,436 ALLEGED. AND THEN THE PRIVATE 2767 01:37:55,436 --> 01:37:56,937 RIGHT OF ACTION CREATES A 2768 01:37:56,937 --> 01:37:59,273 STATUTORY ABILITY FOR SOMEONE TO 2769 01:37:59,273 --> 01:38:03,444 PURSUE CIVIL LAWSUIT TO, TO BOTH 2770 01:38:03,444 --> 01:38:06,480 SEEK REDRESS FOR THOSE 2771 01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:09,183 INDIVIDUAL OR COLLECTIVE. IN THE 2772 01:38:09,183 --> 01:38:14,188 CASE OF A, YOU KNOW, A CLASS, A 2773 01:38:14,188 --> 01:38:14,822 CLASS SUIT, WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE 2774 01:38:14,822 --> 01:38:15,990 TO ALLEGE TO HAVE STANDING IS 2775 01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:18,158 THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE 2776 01:38:18,158 --> 01:38:19,526 WASN'T A SPECIFIC INJURY. SO 2777 01:38:19,526 --> 01:38:20,694 THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BOTH 2778 01:38:20,694 --> 01:38:21,829 SEEK REDRESS FOR THAT SPECIFIC 2779 01:38:21,829 --> 01:38:25,432 INJURY, BUT THEN ALSO SEEK 2780 01:38:25,432 --> 01:38:26,066 ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROHIBITIONS 2781 01:38:26,066 --> 01:38:27,334 IN, IN, IN THE BILL. SO I THINK 2782 01:38:27,334 --> 01:38:28,903 THAT THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS 2783 01:38:28,903 --> 01:38:30,337 ON THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE SIDE 2784 01:38:30,337 --> 01:38:32,373 ARE, ARE DESIGNED SIMILARLY, 2785 01:38:32,373 --> 01:38:35,276 BOTH TO PURSUE DAMAGES AND TO 2786 01:38:35,276 --> 01:38:41,649 PURSUE COMPLIANCE AS WELL. 2787 01:38:41,649 --> 01:38:43,384 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT 2788 01:38:43,384 --> 01:38:46,120 RESPONSE. AND ACTUALLY, MY LAST 2789 01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,022 QUESTION, AND JUST TO GET IT ON 2790 01:38:48,022 --> 01:38:50,157 THE RECORD AGAIN, WHAT 2791 01:38:50,157 --> 01:38:52,159 PROTECTIONS IN THE CURRENT BILL 2792 01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:53,761 ALREADY PRESERVE LEGITIMATE 2793 01:38:53,761 --> 01:38:56,163 LOYALTY PROGRAMS, COUPONS, 2794 01:38:56,163 --> 01:38:56,797 PROMOTIONS AND PURCHASE HISTORY 2795 01:38:56,797 --> 01:39:00,067 TIERS 2796 01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:04,371 -- YES. SO AS AS WE DISCUSSED, 2797 01:39:04,371 --> 01:39:06,940 THERE ARE VARIOUS EXCEPTIONS 2798 01:39:06,940 --> 01:39:09,543 RELATED TO DISCOUNTS. AS I 2799 01:39:09,543 --> 01:39:12,479 MENTIONED BEFORE, THE, THE 2800 01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,182 EXCEPTIONS RELATED TO DISCOUNTS 2801 01:39:15,182 --> 01:39:15,649 COVER THIRD PARTY OR 2802 01:39:15,649 --> 01:39:18,385 MANUFACTURERS COUPONS, PROVIDED 2803 01:39:18,385 --> 01:39:22,489 THAT THOSE COUPONS DO NOT 2804 01:39:22,489 --> 01:39:25,025 INVOLVE DO NOT REQUIRE OR USE 2805 01:39:25,025 --> 01:39:27,628 THE SHARING OR USE OF INDIVIDUAL 2806 01:39:27,628 --> 01:39:30,764 CUSTOMER INFORMATION. GROUP 2807 01:39:30,764 --> 01:39:31,332 DISCOUNTS BASED TO DEFINED 2808 01:39:31,332 --> 01:39:32,866 GROUPS TARGETED AT DEFINED 2809 01:39:32,866 --> 01:39:35,336 GROUPS AND DISCOUNTS BASED ON 2810 01:39:35,336 --> 01:39:38,272 ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AVAILABLE 2811 01:39:38,272 --> 01:39:39,673 TO TO ANY CUSTOMER. I THINK THAT 2812 01:39:39,673 --> 01:39:41,742 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BULK OF 2813 01:39:41,742 --> 01:39:42,309 THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN 2814 01:39:42,309 --> 01:39:45,012 RELATED TO THE LOYALTY PROGRAM 2815 01:39:45,012 --> 01:39:46,480 DISCOUNTS, AND I THINK THE 2816 01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:48,816 WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT 2817 01:39:48,816 --> 01:39:49,416 REITERATING EVERYTHING I SAID 2818 01:39:49,416 --> 01:39:52,086 BEFORE, I THINK THE SORT OF KEY 2819 01:39:52,086 --> 01:39:53,988 THING HERE IS THAT THE, THE MOVE 2820 01:39:53,988 --> 01:39:57,591 AWAY FROM CARNATION CONSUMER BY 2821 01:39:57,591 --> 01:40:00,160 CONSUMER OR MEMBER BY MEMBER 2822 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:01,261 DISCOUNTS THAT MIGHT VARY 2823 01:40:01,261 --> 01:40:02,663 BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, IF JASMINE 2824 01:40:02,663 --> 01:40:05,332 AND I ARE BOTH PART OF THE SAME 2825 01:40:05,332 --> 01:40:06,967 LOYALTY PROGRAM AT THE SAME 2826 01:40:06,967 --> 01:40:08,702 STORE, I THINK WHAT THE BILL IS 2827 01:40:08,702 --> 01:40:09,636 REQUIRING AND ATTEMPTING TO DO 2828 01:40:09,636 --> 01:40:14,174 IS ENSURE THAT EACH OF US WOULD 2829 01:40:14,174 --> 01:40:16,510 RECEIVE SIMILAR DISCOUNTS, 2830 01:40:16,510 --> 01:40:18,045 DISCOUNTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE 2831 01:40:18,045 --> 01:40:18,579 HAD VERY DIFFERENT PRIOR 2832 01:40:18,579 --> 01:40:19,580 PURCHASE HISTORIES. JASMINE AND 2833 01:40:19,580 --> 01:40:22,549 I, WE WOULD, WE MAY MIGHT NOT 2834 01:40:22,549 --> 01:40:24,151 RECEIVE THE SAME PURCHASE 2835 01:40:24,151 --> 01:40:26,320 HISTORY RELATED DISCOUNT, BUT IF 2836 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:27,454 COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER RINCK, IF 2837 01:40:27,454 --> 01:40:28,522 YOU AND I, THE THREE OF US WERE 2838 01:40:28,522 --> 01:40:29,523 A PART OF A LOYALTY PROGRAM AND 2839 01:40:29,523 --> 01:40:32,126 YOU AND I HAD A SIMILAR PURCHASE 2840 01:40:32,126 --> 01:40:33,627 HISTORY THAT THAT DISCOUNT 2841 01:40:33,627 --> 01:40:34,261 PURCHASE HISTORY DISCOUNT WOULD 2842 01:40:34,261 --> 01:40:36,797 BE AVAILABLE TO BOTH OF US BASED 2843 01:40:36,797 --> 01:40:39,566 ON A BROADER TIER OR OR CLASS OF 2844 01:40:39,566 --> 01:40:43,737 BEHAVIOR RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, 2845 01:40:43,737 --> 01:40:44,304 INDIVIDUAL PERSON TO PERSON 2846 01:40:44,304 --> 01:40:46,707 VARIATION IN WHAT DISCOUNTS 2847 01:40:46,707 --> 01:40:47,307 WOULD BE AVAILABLE. SHOULD WE 2848 01:40:47,307 --> 01:40:48,942 ALL BE PART OF THE SAME LOYALTY 2849 01:40:48,942 --> 01:40:50,444 PROGRAM? SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, 2850 01:40:50,444 --> 01:40:54,214 THAT'S, THAT'S I'M, I'M, I'M 2851 01:40:54,214 --> 01:40:55,916 PAINTING IN BROAD STROKES TO TRY 2852 01:40:55,916 --> 01:40:58,018 TO EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT 2853 01:40:58,018 --> 01:40:58,585 BETTER WITHOUT REITERATING 2854 01:40:58,585 --> 01:40:59,553 MYSELF. SO, SO THAT'S NOT 2855 01:40:59,553 --> 01:41:01,755 EXACTLY, EXACTLY IT, BUT THAT'S 2856 01:41:01,755 --> 01:41:04,758 THE IDEA OF THE BILL 2857 01:41:04,758 --> 01:41:04,992 -- AYE. 2858 01:41:04,992 --> 01:41:06,794 -- I THINK TO MAYBE AND GETTING 2859 01:41:06,794 --> 01:41:08,128 JUST GOING FURTHER INTO THE, 2860 01:41:08,128 --> 01:41:11,298 INTO LIKE, LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF 2861 01:41:11,298 --> 01:41:14,902 TOMASO MYSELF, LIKE IF WE, IF I 2862 01:41:14,902 --> 01:41:18,972 PURCHASE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 2863 01:41:18,972 --> 01:41:21,208 CHEERIOS AND, YOU KNOW, AND 2864 01:41:21,208 --> 01:41:22,910 TOMASO PURCHASES LIKE MAYBE LIKE 2865 01:41:22,910 --> 01:41:24,111 I'VE PURCHASED FIVE BOXES A 2866 01:41:24,111 --> 01:41:25,879 WEEK AND HE PURCHASES LIKE TWO 2867 01:41:25,879 --> 01:41:27,848 BOXES A WEEK, YOU KNOW, I 2868 01:41:27,848 --> 01:41:32,586 WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE I 2869 01:41:32,586 --> 01:41:34,688 COULDN'T GET A COUPON THAT WAS 2870 01:41:34,688 --> 01:41:36,123 JUST INDIVIDUALIZED FOR ME TO 2871 01:41:36,123 --> 01:41:37,257 GET FIVE BOXES. BUT IF THERE WAS 2872 01:41:37,257 --> 01:41:39,526 A TIER OF FOLKS, LIKE ANYONE WHO 2873 01:41:39,526 --> 01:41:42,696 GETS MORE THAN ONE, ONE BOX OF 2874 01:41:42,696 --> 01:41:44,498 CHEERIOS A WEEK WOULD WOULD 2875 01:41:44,498 --> 01:41:45,966 QUALIFY FOR THIS COUPON, THAT 2876 01:41:45,966 --> 01:41:51,138 WOULD BE ALLOWED. SO I THINK 2877 01:41:51,138 --> 01:41:53,207 THERE WOULD BE ARGUABLY SOME 2878 01:41:53,207 --> 01:41:53,774 MORE RESTRICTION ON LOYALTY 2879 01:41:53,774 --> 01:41:54,641 PROGRAM MEMBERS FROM GETTING 2880 01:41:54,641 --> 01:41:56,276 LIKE PERSONALIZED, 2881 01:41:56,276 --> 01:41:56,910 INDIVIDUALIZED COUPONS BASED ON 2882 01:41:56,910 --> 01:41:58,245 THEIR PURCHASE HISTORY. THEY'D 2883 01:41:58,245 --> 01:41:59,446 HAVE TO BE GROUPED INTO LARGER 2884 01:41:59,446 --> 01:42:01,615 TIERS, BUT IT'S UNCLEAR HOW MUCH 2885 01:42:01,615 --> 01:42:04,852 THAT TRULY IS A LIMITATION. 2886 01:42:04,852 --> 01:42:07,688 -- YEAH, I THINK ANOTHER WAY TO 2887 01:42:07,688 --> 01:42:08,322 THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE 2888 01:42:08,322 --> 01:42:09,890 DOES IS THERE ARE SOME 2889 01:42:09,890 --> 01:42:12,059 COMPONENTS OF IT THAT ARE MAYBE 2890 01:42:12,059 --> 01:42:15,062 MORE FORWARD LOOKING BASED ON 2891 01:42:15,062 --> 01:42:15,629 BUSINESS PRACTICES THAT WE 2892 01:42:15,629 --> 01:42:17,331 AREN'T SEEING YET LOCALLY OR 2893 01:42:17,331 --> 01:42:19,099 AREN'T SEEING AT A IN A 2894 01:42:19,099 --> 01:42:20,934 WIDESPREAD WAY. I THINK THE 2895 01:42:20,934 --> 01:42:22,536 ELECTRONIC SHELF LABELS IS AN 2896 01:42:22,536 --> 01:42:25,672 EXAMPLE OF THAT THERE. THAT IS 2897 01:42:25,672 --> 01:42:27,608 NOT A TECHNOLOGY THAT IS VERY 2898 01:42:27,608 --> 01:42:28,842 WIDESPREAD. YET IN OUR IN OUR 2899 01:42:28,842 --> 01:42:30,210 CITY THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE 2900 01:42:30,210 --> 01:42:31,712 IT EXISTS, BUT IT IS NOT, YOU 2901 01:42:31,712 --> 01:42:33,981 KNOW, THE DOMINANT FORM OF SHELF 2902 01:42:33,981 --> 01:42:34,915 LABEL TECHNOLOGY. SO IN THAT 2903 01:42:34,915 --> 01:42:37,417 SENSE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE 2904 01:42:37,417 --> 01:42:38,485 INTERVENTION THAT THE BILL IS 2905 01:42:38,485 --> 01:42:40,087 MAKING, THERE IS MAYBE MORE 2906 01:42:40,087 --> 01:42:41,889 FORWARD LOOKING IN TERMS OF THE 2907 01:42:41,889 --> 01:42:43,390 PROHIBITION THERE ARE THE 2908 01:42:43,390 --> 01:42:45,959 CHANGES THAT WE'RE DESCRIBING TO 2909 01:42:45,959 --> 01:42:47,561 LOYALTY AND MEMBERSHIP REWARDS 2910 01:42:47,561 --> 01:42:48,629 PROGRAMS. SOME OF THOSE, YOU 2911 01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:50,931 KNOW, ARE ALREADY MORE 2912 01:42:50,931 --> 01:42:51,899 WIDESPREAD BUSINESS PRACTICES. 2913 01:42:51,899 --> 01:42:54,201 AND IN THAT SENSE, LIKE THOSE, 2914 01:42:54,201 --> 01:42:57,070 THOSE COMPONENTS OF THIS BILL 2915 01:42:57,070 --> 01:42:58,438 WOULD SEEK TO CHANGE WHAT IS 2916 01:42:58,438 --> 01:42:59,172 ALREADY A CURRENT BUSINESS 2917 01:42:59,172 --> 01:43:01,575 PRACTICE THAT'S MORE WELL 2918 01:43:01,575 --> 01:43:04,211 ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY. 2919 01:43:04,211 --> 01:43:06,079 -- THANK YOU BOTH FOR TAKING A 2920 01:43:06,079 --> 01:43:07,714 STAB AT OUTLINING ALL OF THOSE 2921 01:43:07,714 --> 01:43:11,084 SCENARIOS FOR US. IT'S REALLY 2922 01:43:11,084 --> 01:43:13,654 APPRECIATED. COLLEAGUES, ANY 2923 01:43:13,654 --> 01:43:14,288 ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 2924 01:43:14,288 --> 01:43:15,889 ON THIS BEYOND JUST QUESTIONS? I 2925 01:43:15,889 --> 01:43:16,757 KNOW THIS IS TIME SET ASIDE TO 2926 01:43:16,757 --> 01:43:19,059 TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL AMENDMENT 2927 01:43:19,059 --> 01:43:21,261 CONCEPTS. SO THIS IS A FORM TO 2928 01:43:21,261 --> 01:43:23,130 BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE UP AS 2929 01:43:23,130 --> 01:43:27,201 WELL. VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2930 01:43:27,201 --> 01:43:28,101 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. I 2931 01:43:28,101 --> 01:43:29,703 APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. I 2932 01:43:29,703 --> 01:43:32,239 WAS WAITING FOR THE TIME TO 2933 01:43:32,239 --> 01:43:33,640 BRING UP AMENDMENT CONCEPTS, SO 2934 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:34,608 THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT 2935 01:43:34,608 --> 01:43:35,542 TO SHARE WITH MEMBERS OF THE 2936 01:43:35,542 --> 01:43:37,444 COMMITTEE. OUR OFFICE IS LOOKING 2937 01:43:37,444 --> 01:43:42,082 AT AN AMENDMENT CONCEPT TO HELP 2938 01:43:42,082 --> 01:43:44,685 CLARIFY WHO IS AN AGGRIEVED 2939 01:43:44,685 --> 01:43:46,353 PARTY. SO LOOKING AT THE THE 2940 01:43:46,353 --> 01:43:48,855 CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT STATES 2941 01:43:48,855 --> 01:43:50,457 TANGIBLE COMPARED TO INTANGIBLE 2942 01:43:50,457 --> 01:43:52,125 HARM. SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH 2943 01:43:52,125 --> 01:43:53,427 CENTRAL STAFF ON THAT IN THE 2944 01:43:53,427 --> 01:43:55,062 COMING WEEKS. AND THE INTEREST 2945 01:43:55,062 --> 01:43:57,264 THERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE 2946 01:43:57,264 --> 01:43:57,898 ARE IMPLEMENTING PRIVATE RIGHT 2947 01:43:57,898 --> 01:44:01,168 OF ACTION, WE HAVE CLARITY ON 2948 01:44:01,168 --> 01:44:02,336 WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR A CLASS, AND 2949 01:44:02,336 --> 01:44:03,937 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 2950 01:44:03,937 --> 01:44:08,075 HAVE CLARITY IN THE THE 2951 01:44:08,075 --> 01:44:08,342 LANGUAGE. 2952 01:44:08,342 --> 01:44:09,209 -- THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, 2953 01:44:09,209 --> 01:44:13,981 VICE CHAIR FOSTER. OTHER 2954 01:44:13,981 --> 01:44:15,449 COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF THERE'S 2955 01:44:15,449 --> 01:44:16,516 ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO 2956 01:44:16,516 --> 01:44:17,918 SHARE OR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON 2957 01:44:17,918 --> 01:44:19,353 THE BILL, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU 2958 01:44:19,353 --> 01:44:22,789 SPACE FOR THAT, BUT I ALSO 2959 01:44:22,789 --> 01:44:24,024 WON'T BELABOR THE POINT. IF 2960 01:44:24,024 --> 01:44:25,792 WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON. HEARING 2961 01:44:25,792 --> 01:44:27,995 AND SEEING NO ADDITIONAL HANDS, 2962 01:44:27,995 --> 01:44:29,796 I'M GOING TO THANK CENTRAL 2963 01:44:29,796 --> 01:44:30,330 STAFF AGAIN FOR TODAY'S 2964 01:44:30,330 --> 01:44:32,499 PRESENTATION AND WALKING THROUGH 2965 01:44:32,499 --> 01:44:34,434 AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS. 2966 01:44:34,434 --> 01:44:36,837 COLLEAGUES, WE WILL BE TAKING UP 2967 01:44:36,837 --> 01:44:38,472 AMENDMENTS AND A VOTE ON THIS 2968 01:44:38,472 --> 01:44:40,140 BILL AT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE 2969 01:44:40,140 --> 01:44:42,909 MEETING SEPTEMBER 11th, I 2970 01:44:42,909 --> 01:44:45,312 BELIEVE. YES, THANK YOU, THANK 2971 01:44:45,312 --> 01:44:48,115 YOU. AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL 2972 01:44:48,115 --> 01:44:48,749 NOW CLOSE THIS OUT AND MOVE ON 2973 01:44:48,749 --> 01:44:50,851 TO OUR FIFTH AND FINAL ITEM OF 2974 01:44:50,851 --> 01:44:51,652 BUSINESS FOR THE DAY. THANK YOU 2975 01:44:51,652 --> 01:44:59,359 ALL AGAIN. MOVING TO OUR FIFTH 2976 01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:00,627 AND FINAL ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL 2977 01:45:00,627 --> 01:45:02,029 THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM FIVE 2978 01:45:02,029 --> 01:45:04,765 INTO THE RECORD? 2979 01:45:04,765 --> 01:45:05,365 -- ITEM FIVE COUNCIL BILL ONE 2980 01:45:05,365 --> 01:45:07,634 TWO, 1275. AN ORDINANCE RELATING 2981 01:45:07,634 --> 01:45:11,371 TO COMMERCIAL TENANCIES 2982 01:45:11,371 --> 01:45:13,106 ESTABLISHING LESSER REQUIREMENTS 2983 01:45:13,106 --> 01:45:13,607 TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY 2984 01:45:13,607 --> 01:45:15,409 REGARDING ACCESS TO THE LEASE 2985 01:45:15,409 --> 01:45:17,577 AGREEMENT. PREVIOUS CERTIFICATE 2986 01:45:17,577 --> 01:45:19,413 OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE SPACE AND 2987 01:45:19,413 --> 01:45:21,448 EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SPACE 2988 01:45:21,448 --> 01:45:29,423 AND TRIPLE NET 2989 01:45:29,556 --> 01:45:32,926 EXPENSES AND AMENDING SECTIONS 2990 01:45:32,926 --> 01:45:35,328 610402061040306104060 AND 2991 01:45:35,328 --> 01:45:39,166 6104070 AND 6104080 OF THE 2992 01:45:39,166 --> 01:45:42,002 SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE FOR 2993 01:45:42,002 --> 01:45:42,536 BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. 2994 01:45:42,536 --> 01:45:44,438 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, 2995 01:45:44,438 --> 01:45:46,039 COLLEAGUES. AT THE JULY 17th 2996 01:45:46,039 --> 01:45:48,375 MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE, STAFF 2997 01:45:48,375 --> 01:45:49,710 AT THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC 2998 01:45:49,710 --> 01:45:51,144 DEVELOPMENT BRIEFED US ON A 2999 01:45:51,144 --> 01:45:52,446 VARIETY OF CHALLENGES. OUR LOCAL 3000 01:45:52,446 --> 01:45:54,014 SMALL BUSINESSES ARE FACING, AND 3001 01:45:54,014 --> 01:45:55,649 WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS 3002 01:45:55,649 --> 01:45:57,517 COMMUNITY REALLY SPEAKING TO 3003 01:45:57,517 --> 01:45:59,086 THOSE CHALLENGES THEMSELVES IN 3004 01:45:59,086 --> 01:46:01,321 DIRECT TESTIMONY. ONE CLEAR 3005 01:46:01,321 --> 01:46:02,355 COMMON THEME WAS THAT THE COSTS 3006 01:46:02,355 --> 01:46:04,391 OF SECURING A LEASE ON A SPACE 3007 01:46:04,391 --> 01:46:06,293 AND MAKING NECESSARY TENANT 3008 01:46:06,293 --> 01:46:07,627 IMPROVEMENTS CAN MAKE OR BREAK A 3009 01:46:07,627 --> 01:46:08,895 SMALL BUSINESS BEFORE IT CAN 3010 01:46:08,895 --> 01:46:11,965 EVEN OPEN ITS DOORS. IN WORST 3011 01:46:11,965 --> 01:46:14,434 CASE, BUT NOT AT ALL UNCOMMON 3012 01:46:14,434 --> 01:46:16,136 SCENARIOS. NEW TENANTS IN 3013 01:46:16,136 --> 01:46:17,371 COMMERCIAL SPACES DISCOVER IS 3014 01:46:17,371 --> 01:46:20,140 THAT THE LEASE, THE SPACE THAT 3015 01:46:20,140 --> 01:46:21,274 THEY LEASED, IS NOT WHAT THEY 3016 01:46:21,274 --> 01:46:22,909 THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING, AND 3017 01:46:22,909 --> 01:46:24,111 THAT TENS OR EVEN HUNDREDS OF 3018 01:46:24,111 --> 01:46:25,545 THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN BUILD 3019 01:46:25,545 --> 01:46:27,280 OUTS, RETROFITS AND PERMITS WILL 3020 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,516 BE NEEDED TO SECURE OCCUPANCY 3021 01:46:29,516 --> 01:46:30,684 BEFORE THEY CAN BRING IN A 3022 01:46:30,684 --> 01:46:33,186 SINGLE DOLLAR OF REVENUE. AND ON 3023 01:46:33,186 --> 01:46:34,454 THE OTHER SIDE ARE COMMERCIAL 3024 01:46:34,454 --> 01:46:36,757 PROPERTY OWNERS AND MANAGERS 3025 01:46:36,757 --> 01:46:37,357 HAVE FACED CHALLENGES FINDING 3026 01:46:37,357 --> 01:46:38,859 AND SECURING LONG TERM TENANTS 3027 01:46:38,859 --> 01:46:40,427 WHO COME TO THE TABLE, PREPARED 3028 01:46:40,427 --> 01:46:42,529 AND INFORMED ENOUGH TO MAKE THE 3029 01:46:42,529 --> 01:46:43,764 MOST OF WHAT IS OFTEN THE 3030 01:46:43,764 --> 01:46:44,965 BIGGEST INVESTMENT OF THEIR 3031 01:46:44,965 --> 01:46:49,603 LIVES, AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS 3032 01:46:49,603 --> 01:46:50,637 ARE NOT REAL ESTATE EXPERTS. 3033 01:46:50,637 --> 01:46:53,507 I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT BY 3034 01:46:53,507 --> 01:46:54,107 ANY MEANS, AND THE LEASERS OF 3035 01:46:54,107 --> 01:46:57,344 THESE SPACES ARE NOT EXPERTS IN 3036 01:46:57,344 --> 01:46:58,378 THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF EACH 3037 01:46:58,378 --> 01:47:00,781 BUSINESS. AND WHEN THAT 3038 01:47:00,781 --> 01:47:01,348 INFORMATION ISN'T CLEAR, 3039 01:47:01,348 --> 01:47:02,616 MISTAKES CAN BE MADE AND 3040 01:47:02,616 --> 01:47:04,351 EVERYBODY LOSES. SO OUR 3041 01:47:04,351 --> 01:47:06,019 BUSINESSES, OUR COMMERCIAL 3042 01:47:06,019 --> 01:47:07,387 LANDLORDS, AND ULTIMATELY ALL OF 3043 01:47:07,387 --> 01:47:10,290 US IN SEATTLE WHO WALKED PAST 3044 01:47:10,290 --> 01:47:11,758 EMPTY STOREFRONTS INSTEAD OF 3045 01:47:11,758 --> 01:47:13,226 HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT 3046 01:47:13,226 --> 01:47:14,861 OUR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS AND OUR 3047 01:47:14,861 --> 01:47:15,495 THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS 3048 01:47:15,495 --> 01:47:16,663 DISTRICTS. SO THE OFFICE OF 3049 01:47:16,663 --> 01:47:17,631 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IN 3050 01:47:17,631 --> 01:47:19,332 PARTNERSHIP WITH MY OFFICE, HAS 3051 01:47:19,332 --> 01:47:21,067 BEEN EXPLORING OPTIONS TO MAKE 3052 01:47:21,067 --> 01:47:23,036 RENTING A COMMERCIAL SPACE IN 3053 01:47:23,036 --> 01:47:24,571 SEATTLE MORE AFFORDABLE AND LESS 3054 01:47:24,571 --> 01:47:25,605 RISKY, AND HONING IN ON THOSE 3055 01:47:25,605 --> 01:47:28,575 WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT POTENTIAL 3056 01:47:28,575 --> 01:47:29,910 TENANTS HAD ALL THE INFORMATION 3057 01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:32,112 POSSIBLE ABOUT A SPACE BEFORE 3058 01:47:32,112 --> 01:47:32,913 CONSIDERING LEASING, AND THAT 3059 01:47:32,913 --> 01:47:34,481 LANDLORDS WERE CLEAR IN THEIR 3060 01:47:34,481 --> 01:47:36,016 DUTIES TO DISCLOSE WHAT THEY 3061 01:47:36,016 --> 01:47:37,851 KNEW ABOUT A SPACE AND HOW THEIR 3062 01:47:37,851 --> 01:47:39,820 TERMS WOULD BE DETERMINED. SO, 3063 01:47:39,820 --> 01:47:40,921 TO BE CLEAR, IN DOZENS OF 3064 01:47:40,921 --> 01:47:43,490 MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON 3065 01:47:43,490 --> 01:47:44,424 BOTH SIDES OF A LEASE, IT WAS 3066 01:47:44,424 --> 01:47:45,692 CLEAR THAT THE MAJORITY OF 3067 01:47:45,692 --> 01:47:47,561 COMMERCIAL LANDLORDS ALREADY DO 3068 01:47:47,561 --> 01:47:49,763 MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF WHAT IS IN 3069 01:47:49,763 --> 01:47:51,298 THIS BILL. BUT THIS ORDINANCE 3070 01:47:51,298 --> 01:47:53,834 SEEKS TO ENSHRINE THOSE BEST 3071 01:47:53,834 --> 01:47:55,302 PRACTICES INTO REGULATION TO 3072 01:47:55,302 --> 01:47:56,903 ENSURE ALL LANDLORDS AND TENANTS 3073 01:47:56,903 --> 01:47:59,339 ARE PLAYING FROM THE SAME 3074 01:47:59,339 --> 01:47:59,973 RULEBOOK. SO REDUCING THE RISK 3075 01:47:59,973 --> 01:48:01,675 OF SMALL BUSINESSES FALLING PREY 3076 01:48:01,675 --> 01:48:03,810 TO BAD ACTORS, OR SIMPLY SIGNING 3077 01:48:03,810 --> 01:48:05,612 UP FOR SOMETHING THEY DON'T 3078 01:48:05,612 --> 01:48:07,480 FULLY UNDERSTAND, WILL MEAN LESS 3079 01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:08,782 COSTLY SURPRISES FOR TENANTS AND 3080 01:48:08,782 --> 01:48:10,717 LANDLORDS, AND BETTER CHANCES 3081 01:48:10,717 --> 01:48:12,118 FOR LONG TERM TENANCIES AND A 3082 01:48:12,118 --> 01:48:14,287 THRIVING, SUSTAINED SMALL 3083 01:48:14,287 --> 01:48:15,789 BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM. AND SO WITH 3084 01:48:15,789 --> 01:48:16,489 THAT INTRODUCTION, I'D LOVE TO 3085 01:48:16,489 --> 01:48:19,459 TURN IT OVER TO THE OFFICE OF 3086 01:48:19,459 --> 01:48:23,463 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SHARE 3087 01:48:23,463 --> 01:48:24,030 DETAILS ON THE LEGISLATION. 3088 01:48:24,030 --> 01:48:24,664 -- GREAT. 3089 01:48:24,664 --> 01:48:26,032 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR 3090 01:48:26,032 --> 01:48:27,300 RINCK AND MEMBERS OF THE 3091 01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:29,169 COMMITTEE. WE CAN START WITH 3092 01:48:29,169 --> 01:48:30,704 SOME QUICK INTRODUCTIONS. I'M 3093 01:48:30,704 --> 01:48:32,339 ALICIA TEAL, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AT 3094 01:48:32,339 --> 01:48:34,441 THE OFFICE OF THE OFFICE OF 3095 01:48:34,441 --> 01:48:34,908 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 3096 01:48:34,908 --> 01:48:38,245 -- HI, ISAAC HOROWITZ, A POLICY 3097 01:48:38,245 --> 01:48:38,612 ADVISOR AT OED. 3098 01:48:38,612 --> 01:48:41,014 -- SO WHEN GREEN TENANT 3099 01:48:41,014 --> 01:48:46,987 IMPROVEMENT MANAGER 3100 01:48:46,987 --> 01:48:47,554 -- FOR THE RECORD, JASMINE 3101 01:48:47,554 --> 01:48:49,456 MARWAHA COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 3102 01:48:49,456 --> 01:48:51,791 -- GOOD MORNING WITH YOUR 3103 01:48:51,791 --> 01:48:58,265 CENTRAL STAFF 3104 01:48:58,265 --> 01:49:01,101 -- GREAT. SORRY. OH, PERFECT. 3105 01:49:01,101 --> 01:49:01,768 THANK YOU. CHAIR RINCK. THANK 3106 01:49:01,768 --> 01:49:02,469 YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT 3107 01:49:02,469 --> 01:49:04,237 INTRODUCTION. YOU ACTUALLY 3108 01:49:04,237 --> 01:49:04,905 COVERED MUCH OF THE GROUND I WAS 3109 01:49:04,905 --> 01:49:05,939 GOING, WHICH IS PERFECT BECAUSE 3110 01:49:05,939 --> 01:49:07,541 I THINK WE'RE VERY ALIGNED ON 3111 01:49:07,541 --> 01:49:10,710 KIND OF HOW THIS LEGISLATION 3112 01:49:10,710 --> 01:49:12,345 CAME ABOUT. AND SO I THINK THE 3113 01:49:12,345 --> 01:49:13,780 COMMITTEE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH 3114 01:49:13,780 --> 01:49:15,582 THE WORK OF OFFICE OF ECONOMIC 3115 01:49:15,582 --> 01:49:17,484 DEVELOPMENT. BUT JUST A QUICK 3116 01:49:17,484 --> 01:49:19,019 NOTE, OUR CORE PURPOSE IS 3117 01:49:19,019 --> 01:49:21,288 LEADING PROJECTS AND MAKING 3118 01:49:21,288 --> 01:49:21,922 INVESTMENTS THAT OPEN UP ACCESS 3119 01:49:21,922 --> 01:49:23,690 TO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, 3120 01:49:23,690 --> 01:49:24,991 REDUCE THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP, 3121 01:49:24,991 --> 01:49:26,660 AND ENCOURAGE INNOVATION AND 3122 01:49:26,660 --> 01:49:29,062 GROWTH. ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL 3123 01:49:29,062 --> 01:49:30,730 SPACES AND VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD 3124 01:49:30,730 --> 01:49:31,665 CORRIDORS IS CERTAINLY PART OF 3125 01:49:31,665 --> 01:49:33,967 THAT WORK, AND THAT'S TWO OF THE 3126 01:49:33,967 --> 01:49:35,335 PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN 3127 01:49:35,335 --> 01:49:38,204 FUTURE OF SEATTLE ECONOMY 3128 01:49:38,204 --> 01:49:38,939 FRAMEWORK, WHICH SERVES AS THE 3129 01:49:38,939 --> 01:49:42,242 CITY OF SEATTLE'S ECONOMIC 3130 01:49:42,242 --> 01:49:45,946 DEVELOPMENT POLICY FRAMEWORK VIA 3131 01:49:45,946 --> 01:49:49,816 RESOLUTION 32099. SO WE LIKEWISE 3132 01:49:49,816 --> 01:49:50,350 COUNCILMEMBER RINCK HAVE 3133 01:49:50,350 --> 01:49:51,251 APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO 3134 01:49:51,251 --> 01:49:55,055 WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF AS 3135 01:49:55,055 --> 01:49:57,891 WE DEVELOP THIS PROPOSAL AND 3136 01:49:57,891 --> 01:49:58,491 THIS IDEA EVOLVED ORGANICALLY 3137 01:49:58,491 --> 01:50:00,427 THROUGH OUR WORK OVER THE YEARS, 3138 01:50:00,427 --> 01:50:00,894 ESPECIALLY WITH SMALL 3139 01:50:00,894 --> 01:50:01,995 BUSINESSES. AND AS YOU NOTED, 3140 01:50:01,995 --> 01:50:04,464 SOME OF THESE THEMES CAME UP AT 3141 01:50:04,464 --> 01:50:09,135 THE JULY 17th COMMITTEE MEETING 3142 01:50:09,135 --> 01:50:12,839 ROUNDTABLE. AND SO AS WE WORK TO 3143 01:50:12,839 --> 01:50:13,473 STRENGTHEN THAT ECOSYSTEM THAT 3144 01:50:13,473 --> 01:50:16,076 YOU MENTIONED FOR THESE GROUND 3145 01:50:16,076 --> 01:50:16,609 FLOOR CORRIDORS THAT ARE 3146 01:50:16,609 --> 01:50:18,078 INVITING FOR RESIDENTS, 3147 01:50:18,078 --> 01:50:19,479 BUSINESSES, AND VISITORS, WE 3148 01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,147 WANT TO USE THE FULL TOOLKIT 3149 01:50:21,147 --> 01:50:23,316 FROM PROGRAMS AND INVESTMENTS. 3150 01:50:23,316 --> 01:50:24,584 AND IN THIS CASE, POLICY AS WELL 3151 01:50:24,584 --> 01:50:27,454 TO SUPPORT THAT. AND AS YOU 3152 01:50:27,454 --> 01:50:29,022 NOTED, LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY 3153 01:50:29,022 --> 01:50:30,991 MANAGERS ARE A CRITICAL PART OF 3154 01:50:30,991 --> 01:50:32,092 THAT ECOSYSTEM. THEY'VE BEEN 3155 01:50:32,092 --> 01:50:33,526 VALUED PARTNERS TO THE WORK OF 3156 01:50:33,526 --> 01:50:35,362 OUR OFFICE, INCLUDING SEATTLE, 3157 01:50:35,362 --> 01:50:36,997 RESTORED. YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE 3158 01:50:36,997 --> 01:50:38,832 OF BUSINESSES WHO HAVE 3159 01:50:38,832 --> 01:50:40,333 PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROGRAM 3160 01:50:40,333 --> 01:50:42,068 HERE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS 3161 01:50:42,068 --> 01:50:44,904 PROPOSAL WILL LEAD TO BETTER 3162 01:50:44,904 --> 01:50:46,973 OUTCOMES ACROSS THIS ECOSYSTEM, 3163 01:50:46,973 --> 01:50:47,607 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, AS YOU 3164 01:50:47,607 --> 01:50:49,909 NOTED, THE PROPOSAL REFLECTS 3165 01:50:49,909 --> 01:50:52,045 MANY OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT 3166 01:50:52,045 --> 01:50:54,180 LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY, MANY 3167 01:50:54,180 --> 01:50:55,382 LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY MANAGERS 3168 01:50:55,382 --> 01:50:57,650 ARE INCORPORATING. AND SO THIS 3169 01:50:57,650 --> 01:50:59,285 BASELINE ACROSS OUR CITY CAN 3170 01:50:59,285 --> 01:51:00,654 HELP US AVOID SOME OF THE WORST 3171 01:51:00,654 --> 01:51:02,722 CASE SCENARIOS THAT WE HAVE 3172 01:51:02,722 --> 01:51:03,323 ENCOUNTERED WHILE SUPPORTING 3173 01:51:03,323 --> 01:51:04,958 SMALL BUSINESSES. AND THESE 3174 01:51:04,958 --> 01:51:07,160 WORST CASES HAVE UNFORTUNATELY 3175 01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,562 LED TO DISPUTES, UNEXPECTED, 3176 01:51:09,562 --> 01:51:11,031 EXTENDED AND COSTLY TENANT 3177 01:51:11,031 --> 01:51:13,533 IMPROVEMENTS, AND PERMITTING 3178 01:51:13,533 --> 01:51:15,101 PROCESSES. AND SO THIS SLIDE 3179 01:51:15,101 --> 01:51:16,269 JUST GIVES SOME CONTEXT FOR HOW 3180 01:51:16,269 --> 01:51:18,471 THESE ISSUES CAME TO OUR 3181 01:51:18,471 --> 01:51:21,074 ATTENTION. THIS CHART SHOWS THE 3182 01:51:21,074 --> 01:51:22,242 TIERED INVESTMENTS THAT OUR 3183 01:51:22,242 --> 01:51:24,411 OFFICE MAKES TO HELP BUSINESSES 3184 01:51:24,411 --> 01:51:26,613 STABILIZE AND GROW. THEY RANGE 3185 01:51:26,613 --> 01:51:28,281 FROM THE LEFT FROM, AND THEY 3186 01:51:28,281 --> 01:51:30,283 KIND OF GO FROM LIKE LOWEST 3187 01:51:30,283 --> 01:51:33,953 BARRIER TO MORE AND MORE VETTING 3188 01:51:33,953 --> 01:51:36,489 AND LARGER INVESTMENT. OUR ABC 3189 01:51:36,489 --> 01:51:39,125 PROGRAM PROVIDES ACCOUNTING AND 3190 01:51:39,125 --> 01:51:40,627 BUSINESS CONSULTING, AND THEN WE 3191 01:51:40,627 --> 01:51:42,362 ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS 3192 01:51:42,362 --> 01:51:43,930 TO STRENGTHEN ACCESS AND 3193 01:51:43,930 --> 01:51:45,799 READINESS FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE. 3194 01:51:45,799 --> 01:51:47,434 SINCE THAT IS SUCH A BIG PART OF 3195 01:51:47,434 --> 01:51:49,202 THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE TODAY, 3196 01:51:49,202 --> 01:51:50,570 INCLUDING VACANCY, WE WANT TO 3197 01:51:50,570 --> 01:51:52,138 MAKE SURE THAT AS MANY SPACES 3198 01:51:52,138 --> 01:51:54,240 ARE, ARE OCCUPIED AND VIABLE AS 3199 01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:57,143 POSSIBLE. AND SO THIS PROPOSAL 3200 01:51:57,143 --> 01:51:59,345 GREW OUT OF STAFF AND 3201 01:51:59,345 --> 01:52:01,848 CONSULTANTS IDENTIFYING 3202 01:52:01,848 --> 01:52:02,415 PATTERNS, ADMINISTERING OUR 3203 01:52:02,415 --> 01:52:03,950 COMMERCIAL SPACE CONSULTING 3204 01:52:03,950 --> 01:52:04,818 PROGRAM, WHICH IS THAT KIND OF 3205 01:52:04,818 --> 01:52:06,352 LIKE BROWNISH RED ONE TWO IN 3206 01:52:06,352 --> 01:52:08,655 FROM THE LEFT. THAT PROGRAM 3207 01:52:08,655 --> 01:52:10,156 REALLY WORKS WITH BUSINESSES WHO 3208 01:52:10,156 --> 01:52:12,425 ARE LOOKING FOR A PROSPECTIVE 3209 01:52:12,425 --> 01:52:13,760 SPACE OR ARE LOOKING TO MAKE 3210 01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,161 IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR SPACES, 3211 01:52:15,161 --> 01:52:18,264 AND IS OFFERING CONSULTING 3212 01:52:18,264 --> 01:52:20,300 SUPPORT FOR FREE AND OUR TENANT 3213 01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:23,169 IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS 3214 01:52:23,169 --> 01:52:25,038 THE BROWN BAR TWO FROM THE 3215 01:52:25,038 --> 01:52:28,374 RIGHT, OR THE SECOND ONE FROM 3216 01:52:28,374 --> 01:52:30,877 THE RIGHT, WHICH INVESTS IN 3217 01:52:30,877 --> 01:52:31,744 EQUIPMENT, SIGNAGE AND BUILD 3218 01:52:31,744 --> 01:52:33,546 OUTS. AND SO EVEN AS BOTH OF 3219 01:52:33,546 --> 01:52:35,315 THOSE PROGRAMS AND REALLY ALL OF 3220 01:52:35,315 --> 01:52:37,550 OUR PROGRAMS INVOLVE EDUCATING 3221 01:52:37,550 --> 01:52:40,019 BUSINESS OWNERS AND OPERATORS, 3222 01:52:40,019 --> 01:52:41,521 AND IN THE CASE OF THE TENANT 3223 01:52:41,521 --> 01:52:43,590 IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, ALSO 3224 01:52:43,590 --> 01:52:45,191 ASSESSING BUSINESS VIABILITY AND 3225 01:52:45,191 --> 01:52:47,327 EXPERIENCE, THE ISSUES THAT THIS 3226 01:52:47,327 --> 01:52:49,496 LEGISLATION SEEKS TO ADDRESS ARE 3227 01:52:49,496 --> 01:52:50,563 STILL A GAP WHERE A POLICY 3228 01:52:50,563 --> 01:52:53,700 CHANGE IS A REALLY CRITICAL 3229 01:52:53,700 --> 01:52:54,868 COMPONENT TO THE EDUCATION THAT 3230 01:52:54,868 --> 01:52:56,402 OED AND OTHERS, INCLUDING OUR 3231 01:52:56,402 --> 01:52:57,570 CONSULTANTS, OFFER. SO NOW I'LL 3232 01:52:57,570 --> 01:52:58,905 TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE 3233 01:52:58,905 --> 01:53:02,308 SELWYN TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE 3234 01:53:02,308 --> 01:53:02,876 SPECIFIC ISSUES WE PROPOSE 3235 01:53:02,876 --> 01:53:08,148 ADDRESSING 3236 01:53:08,148 --> 01:53:12,752 -- HI. AS YOU SAW IN THE LAST 3237 01:53:12,752 --> 01:53:14,420 SLIDE, WE HAVE A CONTINUUM OF 3238 01:53:14,420 --> 01:53:16,756 PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER TO SMALL 3239 01:53:16,756 --> 01:53:18,625 BUSINESSES, AND IN PARTICULAR, 3240 01:53:18,625 --> 01:53:21,227 MY COLLEAGUES AND I, AND 3241 01:53:21,227 --> 01:53:24,097 CONSULTANTS. WE ACTUALLY READ 3242 01:53:24,097 --> 01:53:25,698 OVER HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND 3243 01:53:25,698 --> 01:53:27,934 HUNDREDS OF LEASES. AND THROUGH 3244 01:53:27,934 --> 01:53:29,769 OUR COMMERCIAL SPACE CONSULTING 3245 01:53:29,769 --> 01:53:34,507 PROGRAM, WE DO A LOT OF BUSINESS 3246 01:53:34,507 --> 01:53:36,643 ADVOCACY WORK BETWEEN LANDLORDS 3247 01:53:36,643 --> 01:53:38,711 AND TENANTS. SO WE SAT DOWN LAST 3248 01:53:38,711 --> 01:53:42,382 YEAR AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT 3249 01:53:42,382 --> 01:53:43,516 COULD WE EFFECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT 3250 01:53:43,516 --> 01:53:46,486 COULD WE REALLY HELP BUSINESSES 3251 01:53:46,486 --> 01:53:51,591 OVERALL TO REALLY GET THEM TO BE 3252 01:53:51,591 --> 01:53:54,127 ABLE TO HAVE STABILIZATION GROW 3253 01:53:54,127 --> 01:53:56,462 IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THRIVE? 3254 01:53:56,462 --> 01:53:58,731 AND WE KEPT SEEING THESE KIND OF 3255 01:53:58,731 --> 01:53:59,666 COMMON THEMES THAT COME UP WHEN 3256 01:53:59,666 --> 01:54:02,101 WE'RE DOING OUR ADVOCACY WORK. 3257 01:54:02,101 --> 01:54:04,204 SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS 3258 01:54:04,204 --> 01:54:06,573 THAT BUBBLED UP. AND ONE OF 3259 01:54:06,573 --> 01:54:08,241 THEM, YOU, IS NO COPY OF THE 3260 01:54:08,241 --> 01:54:11,578 SIGNED LEASE. I KNOW THAT MIGHT 3261 01:54:11,578 --> 01:54:13,413 BE SHOCKING, BUT ACTUALLY, YOU 3262 01:54:13,413 --> 01:54:16,216 KNOW, TENANTS WILL SIGN THEIR 3263 01:54:16,216 --> 01:54:20,820 LEASE AND NOT GET A COPY OF IT. 3264 01:54:20,820 --> 01:54:22,755 AND IT REALLY PUTS A REAL STRAIN 3265 01:54:22,755 --> 01:54:24,824 OF FOG INTO WHAT THEIR BUSINESS 3266 01:54:24,824 --> 01:54:27,460 IS LIKE. THEY DON'T HAVE THEY 3267 01:54:27,460 --> 01:54:28,895 DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN THEIR 3268 01:54:28,895 --> 01:54:31,497 LEASE. THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S 3269 01:54:31,497 --> 01:54:35,235 GOING TO OPERATE, WHO'S GOING TO 3270 01:54:35,235 --> 01:54:36,769 BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, WHAT IS 3271 01:54:36,769 --> 01:54:39,072 THE PRICING WHEN THE LEASE IS 3272 01:54:39,072 --> 01:54:41,674 OVER WITH? SO THEY'RE IN THE 3273 01:54:41,674 --> 01:54:44,744 FOG. THEY JUST DON'T KNOW. AND 3274 01:54:44,744 --> 01:54:45,912 IT SEEMS CRAZY TO THINK ABOUT. 3275 01:54:45,912 --> 01:54:47,881 BUT YES, THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR 3276 01:54:47,881 --> 01:54:54,420 OWN LEASE FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL 3277 01:54:54,420 --> 01:54:54,887 SPACE. SECONDLY, THE 3278 01:54:54,887 --> 01:54:56,356 MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE ALLOWED 3279 01:54:56,356 --> 01:55:00,827 USE OF SPACE, THIS HAS CREATED A 3280 01:55:00,827 --> 01:55:02,729 LOT OF ISSUES. WHEN A TENANT 3281 01:55:02,729 --> 01:55:06,866 GOES INTO A SPACE, THEY SIGN A 3282 01:55:06,866 --> 01:55:08,434 LEASE AND THEY THINK, SAY IT'S A 3283 01:55:08,434 --> 01:55:10,069 SALON, THEY THINK IT'S A SALON. 3284 01:55:10,069 --> 01:55:14,641 IT WAS A SALON BEFORE IT WAS 3285 01:55:14,641 --> 01:55:16,609 MARKETED AS A SALON WITH THE 3286 01:55:16,609 --> 01:55:18,211 LANDLORD. AND THEN THEY SIGNED 3287 01:55:18,211 --> 01:55:20,913 THEIR LEASE. THEY GO INSIDE TO 3288 01:55:20,913 --> 01:55:23,449 DO SOME MINOR UPGRADES AND GET A 3289 01:55:23,449 --> 01:55:25,218 PERMIT FOR THAT, AND COME TO 3290 01:55:25,218 --> 01:55:29,088 FIND OUT, THEY DON'T HAVE IT 3291 01:55:29,088 --> 01:55:30,490 WAS NEVER PERMITTED FOR THAT. SO 3292 01:55:30,490 --> 01:55:33,693 THEN THEY'RE ON THE HOOK FOR 3293 01:55:33,693 --> 01:55:35,862 ACTUALLY UPGRADING THAT SPACE, 3294 01:55:35,862 --> 01:55:40,800 WHICH COST TENS AND TENS OF 3295 01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:41,534 THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THEM TO 3296 01:55:41,534 --> 01:55:46,339 BRING IT UP TO CODE AND GET IT 3297 01:55:46,339 --> 01:55:47,540 PERMITTED PROPERLY. MOST OF THE 3298 01:55:47,540 --> 01:55:50,510 CASES, THEY DON'T GET ANY KIND 3299 01:55:50,510 --> 01:55:52,278 OF COMPENSATION FROM THE 3300 01:55:52,278 --> 01:55:55,982 LANDLORD. THEY HAVE TO THEN PAY 3301 01:55:55,982 --> 01:55:58,985 THEIR RENT ON TOP OF MAKING ALL 3302 01:55:58,985 --> 01:56:03,356 THESE UPGRADES TO BRING THEM UP 3303 01:56:03,356 --> 01:56:05,091 TO CODE. AND SIMILARLY WITH THE 3304 01:56:05,091 --> 01:56:08,161 THIRD ONE, DISCOVERING FAULTY 3305 01:56:08,161 --> 01:56:08,695 CONDITIONS OR INADEQUATE 3306 01:56:08,695 --> 01:56:10,129 UTILITIES ONLY AFTER SIGNING THE 3307 01:56:10,129 --> 01:56:12,465 LEASE. SO IMAGINE YOU'RE GOING 3308 01:56:12,465 --> 01:56:16,202 IN AND YOU ARE TRYING TO START 3309 01:56:16,202 --> 01:56:17,337 YOUR BUSINESS. YOU HAVE A 3310 01:56:17,337 --> 01:56:18,538 LIMITED BUDGET, AND THEN YOU 3311 01:56:18,538 --> 01:56:21,574 COME TO FIND OUT THAT YOU DON'T 3312 01:56:21,574 --> 01:56:22,575 HAVE THE UTILITIES, YOUR HOOD 3313 01:56:22,575 --> 01:56:24,577 DOESN'T WORK, YOUR PLUMBING IS 3314 01:56:24,577 --> 01:56:28,114 BACKED UP. IT CAUSES 3315 01:56:28,114 --> 01:56:32,018 CATASTROPHIC OUTCOMES FOR A 3316 01:56:32,018 --> 01:56:33,453 BUSINESS TRYING TO GET STARTED. 3317 01:56:33,453 --> 01:56:36,089 I MEAN, BEFORE THEY EVEN OPEN UP 3318 01:56:36,089 --> 01:56:37,724 THEIR DOORS, THEY ARE DROWNING 3319 01:56:37,724 --> 01:56:43,229 IN A SEA OF RED INK. AND LASTLY, 3320 01:56:43,229 --> 01:56:46,466 WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TRIPLE NET 3321 01:56:46,466 --> 01:56:49,302 EXPENSES, WHICH ARE OPERATIONAL 3322 01:56:49,302 --> 01:56:49,836 EXPENSES. EVERYBODY KNOWS 3323 01:56:49,836 --> 01:56:51,504 OPERATIONAL EXPENSE EXPENSES ARE 3324 01:56:51,504 --> 01:56:55,375 GOING UP ALL THE TIME. AND SO 3325 01:56:55,375 --> 01:56:56,509 IT'S NOTHING THAT WE KNOW WE 3326 01:56:56,509 --> 01:56:57,810 CAN DO ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, THIS 3327 01:56:57,810 --> 01:56:59,512 HAPPENED TO ALL OF US, EVEN 3328 01:56:59,512 --> 01:57:01,481 PRIVATELY IS HAPPENING TO 3329 01:57:01,481 --> 01:57:04,917 EVERYONE. BUT WHAT IT IS, THE 3330 01:57:04,917 --> 01:57:05,551 ISSUE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT 3331 01:57:05,551 --> 01:57:09,655 OF THESE LEASES ARE 30 PAGES AND 3332 01:57:09,655 --> 01:57:13,226 IT MIGHT BE A SMALL PARAGRAPH ON 3333 01:57:13,226 --> 01:57:15,361 PAGE 25 WITH A COUPLE OF 3334 01:57:15,361 --> 01:57:18,231 PERCENTAGES AND A DEFINITION. 3335 01:57:18,231 --> 01:57:20,400 AND SO WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO 3336 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,435 FOR A BUSINESS? THEY REALLY, 3337 01:57:22,435 --> 01:57:25,104 REALLY DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, 3338 01:57:25,104 --> 01:57:27,473 THAT THOSE PERCENTAGES AND HOW 3339 01:57:27,473 --> 01:57:30,176 IT'S PRESENTED IS NOT 3340 01:57:30,176 --> 01:57:31,944 EXPLAINED. AND PEOPLE ARE 3341 01:57:31,944 --> 01:57:33,346 SIGNING OFF ON THAT TO COME TO 3342 01:57:33,346 --> 01:57:34,514 FIND OUT WHEN IT'S TIME TO PAY 3343 01:57:34,514 --> 01:57:36,949 IT. IT MIGHT BE HALF OF THEIR 3344 01:57:36,949 --> 01:57:38,017 RENT. IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN HALF 3345 01:57:38,017 --> 01:57:41,888 OF THEIR RENT, AND THEY HAVE NOT 3346 01:57:41,888 --> 01:57:44,857 ALLOCATED THAT OPERATIONAL COST 3347 01:57:44,857 --> 01:57:47,460 WITHIN THEIR BUDGET. SO THEN 3348 01:57:47,460 --> 01:57:48,828 THEY'RE AT A DEFICIT. THEY 3349 01:57:48,828 --> 01:57:51,064 DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING 3350 01:57:51,064 --> 01:57:52,498 TO CONTINUE. AND IT'S REALLY 3351 01:57:52,498 --> 01:58:00,239 HARMFUL TO THE BUSINESS SO WHAT 3352 01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:03,709 WE DID WAS, AGAIN, WE SAT DOWN 3353 01:58:03,709 --> 01:58:06,646 WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND 3354 01:58:06,646 --> 01:58:09,615 CONSULTANTS, AND WE REALLY WENT 3355 01:58:09,615 --> 01:58:11,651 THROUGH AND FORMULATED WHAT WE 3356 01:58:11,651 --> 01:58:13,753 THOUGHT WOULD BE SOME REALLY 3357 01:58:13,753 --> 01:58:15,955 BEST PRACTICES FOR TRANSPARENCY. 3358 01:58:15,955 --> 01:58:18,424 AND SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY 3359 01:58:18,424 --> 01:58:21,828 INFORMED WHY WE MADE THESE 3360 01:58:21,828 --> 01:58:24,230 SUGGESTIONS ON THE TRANSPARENCY 3361 01:58:24,230 --> 01:58:28,768 OF THOSE FOUR POINTS. WE ALSO 3362 01:58:28,768 --> 01:58:31,370 GOT IN TOUCH WITH AT LEAST A 3363 01:58:31,370 --> 01:58:33,239 DOZEN STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH WERE 3364 01:58:33,239 --> 01:58:36,375 INCLUDED LANDLORDS, INDUSTRY 3365 01:58:36,375 --> 01:58:38,478 ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESS, THE 3366 01:58:38,478 --> 01:58:40,379 BIAS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. AND 3367 01:58:40,379 --> 01:58:42,682 WE HAD A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD 3368 01:58:42,682 --> 01:58:44,250 SESSIONS WITH THEM. I THOUGHT IT 3369 01:58:44,250 --> 01:58:46,552 WAS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. THEY 3370 01:58:46,552 --> 01:58:48,721 CAME IN, GAVE US SOME REALLY 3371 01:58:48,721 --> 01:58:52,758 GOOD FEEDBACK. WE WENT BACK AND 3372 01:58:52,758 --> 01:58:55,094 RETOOLED SOME OF OUR LANGUAGING, 3373 01:58:55,094 --> 01:58:56,662 CAME BACK, DID ANOTHER SESSION 3374 01:58:56,662 --> 01:59:00,800 WITH THEM, CAME BACK, DID SOME 3375 01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:01,367 ADDITIONAL RETOOLING OF THE 3376 01:59:01,367 --> 01:59:04,470 MESSAGING, AND I THINK THAT WE 3377 01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:08,007 ARE IN A GOOD SPOT TO MOVE 3378 01:59:08,007 --> 01:59:11,177 FORWARD WITH IT AS THIS 3379 01:59:11,177 --> 01:59:11,811 LEGISLATION PASSES, WE CONTINUE. 3380 01:59:11,811 --> 01:59:12,645 WE REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH 3381 01:59:12,645 --> 01:59:16,415 THEM. I THINK WE'VE CREATED THIS 3382 01:59:16,415 --> 01:59:17,083 PARTNERSHIP. WE WANT TO WIN, WIN 3383 01:59:17,083 --> 01:59:21,621 FOR EVERYBODY. WE WANT ALL 3384 01:59:21,621 --> 01:59:25,158 VOICES HEARD. 3385 01:59:25,158 --> 01:59:26,125 -- GREAT. THANK YOU. SO NOW I'M 3386 01:59:26,125 --> 01:59:28,594 GOING TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS 3387 01:59:28,594 --> 01:59:30,263 OF THE LEGISLATION ITSELF. AND 3388 01:59:30,263 --> 01:59:32,665 THE KEY REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED 3389 01:59:32,665 --> 01:59:34,066 ON THE SLIDE. BUT BEFORE I GET 3390 01:59:34,066 --> 01:59:35,101 INTO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE 3391 01:59:35,101 --> 01:59:37,837 A FEW THINGS WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS 3392 01:59:37,837 --> 01:59:38,704 THE NAME OF THE LEGISLATION 3393 01:59:38,704 --> 01:59:41,674 IMPLIES, THE GOAL IS REALLY 3394 01:59:41,674 --> 01:59:44,243 AROUND TRANSPARENCY, DISCLOSURE 3395 01:59:44,243 --> 01:59:44,710 OF READILY AVAILABLE 3396 01:59:44,710 --> 01:59:46,412 INFORMATION. IT'S NOT TO IMPOSE 3397 01:59:46,412 --> 01:59:48,614 NEW WARRANTIES OR GUARANTEES. 3398 01:59:48,614 --> 01:59:50,883 THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE SECTIONS 3399 01:59:50,883 --> 01:59:53,152 OF THE ORDINANCE THAT CLARIFY 3400 01:59:53,152 --> 01:59:57,290 THAT, AS IT SAYS THERE, WE ARE 3401 01:59:57,290 --> 01:59:59,559 BUILDING OFF OF SMC SIX 104, 3402 01:59:59,559 --> 02:00:02,361 WHICH IS THE PERSONAL GUARANTEE 3403 02:00:02,361 --> 02:00:03,162 AND SECURITY DEPOSIT LIMIT 3404 02:00:03,162 --> 02:00:04,964 LEGISLATION THAT PASSED THROUGH 3405 02:00:04,964 --> 02:00:09,268 COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, IN 2023. SO 3406 02:00:09,268 --> 02:00:10,870 THE LAST THING I'LL SAY BEFORE 3407 02:00:10,870 --> 02:00:12,805 I GET INTO THE REQUIREMENTS IS 3408 02:00:12,805 --> 02:00:13,406 THE DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL 3409 02:00:13,406 --> 02:00:14,707 PROPERTY, WHICH THIS ORDINANCE 3410 02:00:14,707 --> 02:00:16,809 DOES NOT AMEND, BUT WAS CREATED 3411 02:00:16,809 --> 02:00:18,311 FOR THE PERSONAL GUARANTEE AND 3412 02:00:18,311 --> 02:00:21,881 SECURITY DEPOSIT LIMIT. DOES 3413 02:00:21,881 --> 02:00:22,515 EXEMPT SOME SIGNIFICANT SECTORS 3414 02:00:22,515 --> 02:00:23,516 OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO 3415 02:00:23,516 --> 02:00:26,219 RESIDENTIAL AND LODGING RENTALS, 3416 02:00:26,219 --> 02:00:28,454 OFFICE SPACE RESEARCH AND 3417 02:00:28,454 --> 02:00:30,590 DEVELOPMENT, LAB SPACE AND 3418 02:00:30,590 --> 02:00:33,392 MEDICAL PRACTICE CLINICS AND 3419 02:00:33,392 --> 02:00:37,730 DISPENSARIES AND FARMING ARE ALL 3420 02:00:37,730 --> 02:00:38,164 EXEMPTED FROM THESE 3421 02:00:38,164 --> 02:00:38,698 REQUIREMENTS. SO THESE 3422 02:00:38,698 --> 02:00:40,166 REQUIREMENTS ARE KIND OF IN 3423 02:00:40,166 --> 02:00:42,034 PARALLEL TO SOME OF THE ISSUES 3424 02:00:42,034 --> 02:00:44,003 THAT SELWYN OUTLINED. SO THE 3425 02:00:44,003 --> 02:00:45,304 ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THE 3426 02:00:45,304 --> 02:00:46,839 LANDLORD PROVIDE A COPY OF THE 3427 02:00:46,839 --> 02:00:48,174 LEASE AT SIGNING, AND AT LEAST 3428 02:00:48,174 --> 02:00:50,576 ONE ADDITIONAL COPY DURING THE 3429 02:00:50,576 --> 02:00:53,145 TERM OF THE LEASE. THE SECOND IS 3430 02:00:53,145 --> 02:00:55,348 REQUIRING THE MOST RECENT 3431 02:00:55,348 --> 02:00:56,482 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BE 3432 02:00:56,482 --> 02:00:59,151 ATTACHED TO THE LEASE. THAT IS 3433 02:00:59,151 --> 02:01:00,353 TYPICALLY READILY AVAILABLE ON A 3434 02:01:00,353 --> 02:01:02,588 PUBLIC PORTAL HOSTED BY SDCI. 3435 02:01:02,588 --> 02:01:04,023 BUT THE ORDINANCE DOES INCLUDE 3436 02:01:04,023 --> 02:01:05,324 SOME CAVEAT LANGUAGE THAT, IN 3437 02:01:05,324 --> 02:01:08,494 CASE IT SOMEHOW ISN'T AVAILABLE, 3438 02:01:08,494 --> 02:01:09,895 THE LANDLORD ISN'T LIABLE OR 3439 02:01:09,895 --> 02:01:13,332 REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT. THE 3440 02:01:13,332 --> 02:01:13,899 EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE 3441 02:01:13,899 --> 02:01:15,368 SPACE. SO THE DEFINITION OF 3442 02:01:15,368 --> 02:01:17,236 EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE KIND OF 3443 02:01:17,236 --> 02:01:18,771 THE KEY COMPONENTS OF A SPACE. 3444 02:01:18,771 --> 02:01:23,009 SO FLOOR, WALL, ROOF, DOORS AND 3445 02:01:23,009 --> 02:01:25,978 KEY SYSTEMS LIKE PLUMBING, 3446 02:01:25,978 --> 02:01:28,648 ELECTRICAL, HVAC, SPRINKLER AND 3447 02:01:28,648 --> 02:01:30,216 SECURITY SYSTEMS. THERE'S A 3448 02:01:30,216 --> 02:01:33,019 FORM THAT OED WILL DEVELOP A 3449 02:01:33,019 --> 02:01:34,754 -- A MODEL FORM THAT LANDLORDS 3450 02:01:34,754 --> 02:01:38,557 CAN PROVIDE AND WILL DO THAT IN 3451 02:01:38,557 --> 02:01:40,326 THE RULEMAKING PROCESS. THE 3452 02:01:40,326 --> 02:01:41,827 FOURTH IS THE DISCLOSURE OF PAST 3453 02:01:41,827 --> 02:01:43,696 AND AN ESTIMATE OF Fâ–ˆUTURE FUTUE 3454 02:01:43,696 --> 02:01:45,164 TRIPLE NET EXPENSES FOR THE 3455 02:01:45,164 --> 02:01:46,632 PREVIOUS YEAR AND FOR THE FIRST 3456 02:01:46,632 --> 02:01:49,602 YEAR OF THE LEASE. AND TRIPLE 3457 02:01:49,602 --> 02:01:51,704 NET. AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, ARE 3458 02:01:51,704 --> 02:01:53,806 THE CHARGES ABOVE BASE RENT THAT 3459 02:01:53,806 --> 02:01:56,809 TYPICALLY INCLUDES COMMON AREA 3460 02:01:56,809 --> 02:01:59,812 MAINTENANCE, TAXES, ASSESSMENTS, 3461 02:01:59,812 --> 02:02:03,049 INSURANCE, UTILITIES AND 3462 02:02:03,049 --> 02:02:04,984 SECURITY. AND SO THERE'S THE 3463 02:02:04,984 --> 02:02:06,252 DISCLOSURE OF PAST AND ESTIMATE 3464 02:02:06,252 --> 02:02:09,088 OF FUTURE, AND ALSO AN 3465 02:02:09,088 --> 02:02:12,158 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TENANT TO 3466 02:02:12,158 --> 02:02:12,725 ACCESS DOCUMENTATION OF THE 3467 02:02:12,725 --> 02:02:13,693 ACTUAL COSTS INCURRED, WHICH 3468 02:02:13,693 --> 02:02:16,362 LEAD TO THE CHARGES TO THE 3469 02:02:16,362 --> 02:02:17,697 TENANT. AND AGAIN, THIS 3470 02:02:17,697 --> 02:02:20,399 ORDINANCE DOESN'T REGULATE THE 3471 02:02:20,399 --> 02:02:21,000 AMOUNT OF TRIPLE NET. IT'S 3472 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,336 REALLY JUST A PROVIDING 3473 02:02:23,336 --> 02:02:26,906 DISCLOSURES AROUND HOW THOSE 3474 02:02:26,906 --> 02:02:29,575 COSTS ARE INCURRED. FOR 3475 02:02:29,575 --> 02:02:30,209 IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS. 3476 02:02:30,209 --> 02:02:31,744 THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC 3477 02:02:31,744 --> 02:02:33,279 DEVELOPMENT WILL ADMINISTER THIS 3478 02:02:33,279 --> 02:02:34,947 NEW SECTION OF THE CODE. 3479 02:02:34,947 --> 02:02:35,715 THERE'S AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF 3480 02:02:35,715 --> 02:02:39,885 JULY 1st NEXT YEAR, 2027 TO 3481 02:02:39,885 --> 02:02:41,620 ALLOW FOR TIME FOR OED TO 3482 02:02:41,620 --> 02:02:42,221 DEVELOP RULES, EDUCATION AND 3483 02:02:42,221 --> 02:02:44,557 OUTREACH MATERIALS. THE 3484 02:02:44,557 --> 02:02:45,991 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM IS PRIVATE 3485 02:02:45,991 --> 02:02:48,794 RIGHT OF ACTION TO PURSUE RELIEF 3486 02:02:48,794 --> 02:02:51,263 FOR VIOLATIONS. AND IT'S NOT 3487 02:02:51,263 --> 02:02:54,400 EXACTLY ENFORCEMENT. BUT I JUST 3488 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:55,668 WILL NOTE THAT OED INTENDS TO 3489 02:02:55,668 --> 02:02:56,469 EDUCATE LANDLORDS, YOU KNOW, IN 3490 02:02:56,469 --> 02:02:58,804 THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE WHERE 3491 02:02:58,804 --> 02:03:00,740 WE'RE IDENTIFYING THESE ISSUES. 3492 02:03:00,740 --> 02:03:01,307 WE WILL PROACTIVELY EDUCATE 3493 02:03:01,307 --> 02:03:03,909 LANDLORDS ABOUT THESE NEW 3494 02:03:03,909 --> 02:03:06,645 REQUIREMENTS AND FINANCE& 3495 02:03:06,645 --> 02:03:07,146 ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 3496 02:03:07,146 --> 02:03:09,014 ADMINISTERS THE PERSONAL 3497 02:03:09,014 --> 02:03:11,450 GUARANTEE AND SECURITY DEPOSIT 3498 02:03:11,450 --> 02:03:12,518 LEGISLATION. SO IT'S POSSIBLE 3499 02:03:12,518 --> 02:03:14,487 THEY WILL GET MORE CALLS RELATED 3500 02:03:14,487 --> 02:03:16,355 TO THIS, ALTHOUGH OED WILL. SO I 3501 02:03:16,355 --> 02:03:19,692 JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE WILL 3502 02:03:19,692 --> 02:03:21,026 COORDINATE WITH FAS AND SDCI ON 3503 02:03:21,026 --> 02:03:21,660 THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO 3504 02:03:21,660 --> 02:03:23,596 MAKE SURE ALL THE PROGRAMS ARE 3505 02:03:23,596 --> 02:03:28,868 ALIGNED 3506 02:03:28,868 --> 02:03:30,903 -- SO THE IMPACT OF THIS 3507 02:03:30,903 --> 02:03:32,371 LEGISLATION, WE REALLY ARE JUST 3508 02:03:32,371 --> 02:03:34,740 TRYING TO GET THE RIGHT BUSINESS 3509 02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:36,275 IN THE RIGHT SPACES. WE WANT, 3510 02:03:36,275 --> 02:03:40,513 YOU KNOW, TENANTS TO HAVE GREAT, 3511 02:03:40,513 --> 02:03:42,815 YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS WITH 3512 02:03:42,815 --> 02:03:45,885 THEIR LANDLORDS AND GOOD 3513 02:03:45,885 --> 02:03:47,720 TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION. 3514 02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:49,321 AND THE SAME WITH LANDLORDS AND 3515 02:03:49,321 --> 02:03:51,657 PROPERTY MANAGERS. THEY WANT TO 3516 02:03:51,657 --> 02:03:52,258 HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH 3517 02:03:52,258 --> 02:03:54,026 THEIR TENANTS. WE WANT THEM 3518 02:03:54,026 --> 02:03:55,895 ROOTED IN THE COMMUNITY AS LONG 3519 02:03:55,895 --> 02:03:57,530 AS THEY CAN BE IN THEIR 3520 02:03:57,530 --> 02:04:00,399 NEIGHBORHOODS, THRIVING. AND SO 3521 02:04:00,399 --> 02:04:04,603 THAT'S WHAT THIS ALL THIS 3522 02:04:04,603 --> 02:04:05,471 LEGISLATION WOULD BE ABOUT. YOU 3523 02:04:05,471 --> 02:04:09,742 KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE WE WANT TO 3524 02:04:09,742 --> 02:04:11,911 MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, 3525 02:04:11,911 --> 02:04:13,913 WHEN A TENANT SIGNS THEIR LEASE, 3526 02:04:13,913 --> 02:04:18,017 THAT THERE ARE NO KIND OF BIG 3527 02:04:18,017 --> 02:04:21,120 UNFORESEEN EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT 3528 02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:22,555 THEY ARE UP AGAINST. I MEAN, 3529 02:04:22,555 --> 02:04:25,591 THAT HAS PUT BUSINESSES OUT 3530 02:04:25,591 --> 02:04:26,992 BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN GOTTEN 3531 02:04:26,992 --> 02:04:29,128 STARTED. AND WE REALLY WANT IT 3532 02:04:29,128 --> 02:04:29,829 WHEN THEY'RE WALKING INTO A 3533 02:04:29,829 --> 02:04:31,263 SPACE, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE 3534 02:04:31,263 --> 02:04:32,298 GETTING, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE 3535 02:04:32,298 --> 02:04:34,200 UP AGAINST. AND IF THEY CHOOSE 3536 02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:35,768 THAT, THEN THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. 3537 02:04:35,768 --> 02:04:37,636 IT'S, IT'S THE THINGS THAT 3538 02:04:37,636 --> 02:04:40,072 THEY'RE NOT CHOOSING THAT ARE 3539 02:04:40,072 --> 02:04:40,639 THE UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT 3540 02:04:40,639 --> 02:04:43,843 HAPPEN TO THEM. THAT'S WHY OUR 3541 02:04:43,843 --> 02:04:45,611 OFFICE GETS INVOLVED AND DOES 3542 02:04:45,611 --> 02:04:47,079 ALL THIS ADVOCACY WORK, YOU 3543 02:04:47,079 --> 02:04:48,781 KNOW, AND THE TRANSPARENCY OF 3544 02:04:48,781 --> 02:04:50,416 THE TRIPLE NET EXPENSES. I MEAN, 3545 02:04:50,416 --> 02:04:54,086 WE WANTED THAT HIGHLIGHTED OFF 3546 02:04:54,086 --> 02:04:55,387 THE PAGES IN IN THEIR LEASE 3547 02:04:55,387 --> 02:04:56,856 AGREEMENTS. WE WANT THEM TO KNOW 3548 02:04:56,856 --> 02:04:57,957 EXACTLY WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE 3549 02:04:57,957 --> 02:05:00,092 GOING TO BE, OR PROJECTED COSTS 3550 02:05:00,092 --> 02:05:01,927 ARE GOING TO BE. SO EVERYBODY 3551 02:05:01,927 --> 02:05:04,296 GOES IN WITH THEIR EYES OPEN AND 3552 02:05:04,296 --> 02:05:07,199 THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING. 3553 02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:11,403 THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, TRICKERY 3554 02:05:11,403 --> 02:05:13,138 OR ANYTHING THAT THEY FEEL THAT 3555 02:05:13,138 --> 02:05:15,808 THEY WOULD HAVE NOT KNOWN IF 3556 02:05:15,808 --> 02:05:18,377 THEY WOULD HAVE READ THROUGH OR 3557 02:05:18,377 --> 02:05:20,079 SOMEBODY DID. MORE EXPLANATION 3558 02:05:20,079 --> 02:05:22,014 IS RIGHT THERE ON THE PAGES. 3559 02:05:22,014 --> 02:05:25,184 EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE, 3560 02:05:25,184 --> 02:05:26,519 AND THEN EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IS 3561 02:05:26,519 --> 02:05:31,957 MORE SUCCESSFUL 3562 02:05:31,957 --> 02:05:33,459 -- SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE 3563 02:05:33,459 --> 02:05:34,560 READY FOR QUESTIONS. THAT'S 3564 02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,061 OKAY. RIGHT BEFORE YOUR OR DID 3565 02:05:36,061 --> 02:05:36,862 YOU WANT TO GO INTO YOUR 3566 02:05:36,862 --> 02:05:38,497 ANALYSIS? AND THEN WE WILL TAKE 3567 02:05:38,497 --> 02:05:38,797 QUESTIONS. 3568 02:05:38,797 --> 02:05:39,198 -- WHY DON'T. 3569 02:05:39,198 --> 02:05:40,232 -- WE GO TO THE CENTRAL STAFF 3570 02:05:40,232 --> 02:05:50,509 ANALYSIS NEXT? 3571 02:05:51,443 --> 02:06:01,687 -- THERE. I SEE. 3572 02:06:16,702 --> 02:06:20,739 AS JASMINE IS PULLING THIS UP. 3573 02:06:20,739 --> 02:06:21,073 GOOD MORNING. 3574 02:06:21,073 --> 02:06:22,274 -- HAPPY FRIDAY. MY NAME IS ED 3575 02:06:22,274 --> 02:06:27,546 WITH YOUR CENTRAL STAFF. I WANT 3576 02:06:27,546 --> 02:06:28,113 TO THANK OUR COLLEAGUES FOR 3577 02:06:28,113 --> 02:06:29,682 THEIR VERY THOROUGH 3578 02:06:29,682 --> 02:06:30,516 PRESENTATION. MAKES MY JOB A 3579 02:06:30,516 --> 02:06:31,817 LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE I CAN 3580 02:06:31,817 --> 02:06:34,420 SKIP OVER SOME SLIDE AND GET 3581 02:06:34,420 --> 02:06:34,887 RIGHT INTO THE POLICY 3582 02:06:34,887 --> 02:06:38,591 CONSIDERATIONS PIECE. WE HAVE. 3583 02:06:38,591 --> 02:06:40,759 WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THREE POLICY 3584 02:06:40,759 --> 02:06:42,428 CONSIDERATIONS AND ONE 3585 02:06:42,428 --> 02:06:43,529 CONTEXTUAL. AND THEN WE'LL GO 3586 02:06:43,529 --> 02:06:44,530 INTO SOME NEXT STEPS AS WE AS WE 3587 02:06:44,530 --> 02:06:49,168 CONSIDER THIS LEGISLATION. SO. 3588 02:06:49,168 --> 02:06:51,737 STARTING WITH THE THE FIRST 3589 02:06:51,737 --> 02:06:54,673 POLICY CONSIDERATION AS 3590 02:06:54,673 --> 02:06:57,476 DESCRIBED IN THE MEMO AND AS OUR 3591 02:06:57,476 --> 02:07:00,379 COLLEAGUES HAVE POINTED OUT, THE 3592 02:07:00,379 --> 02:07:02,147 PROVISIONS IN THIS PROPOSED 3593 02:07:02,147 --> 02:07:02,781 LEGISLATION ARE ENFORCEABLE ONLY 3594 02:07:02,781 --> 02:07:04,650 THROUGH PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION 3595 02:07:04,650 --> 02:07:07,386 AND IN THIS CASE, LIMITED TO 3596 02:07:07,386 --> 02:07:07,987 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SUFFERED 3597 02:07:07,987 --> 02:07:10,322 FINANCIAL INJURY AND DOES NOT 3598 02:07:10,322 --> 02:07:13,058 ALLOW FOR CIVIL PENALTIES. 3599 02:07:13,058 --> 02:07:14,326 HOWEVER, SOME OF THE 3600 02:07:14,326 --> 02:07:16,028 REQUIREMENTS IN THIS BILL LIKELY 3601 02:07:16,028 --> 02:07:18,631 WOULD RESULT IN DIRECT FINANCIAL 3602 02:07:18,631 --> 02:07:20,199 INJURY FOR TENANTS. SO THEN 3603 02:07:20,199 --> 02:07:23,202 THERE'S REALLY NO ENFORCEMENT 3604 02:07:23,202 --> 02:07:25,404 MECHANISM AND ALSO TENANTS THAT 3605 02:07:25,404 --> 02:07:28,273 MAY SUFFER FINANCIAL INJURY AS A 3606 02:07:28,273 --> 02:07:29,475 RESULT OF A VIOLATION WOULD NEED 3607 02:07:29,475 --> 02:07:32,444 TO HAVE FINANCIAL AND CAPACITY 3608 02:07:32,444 --> 02:07:35,581 RESOURCES TO PURSUE LITIGATION 3609 02:07:35,581 --> 02:07:37,182 POSSIBLE MITIGATION STRATEGY. IF 3610 02:07:37,182 --> 02:07:37,750 THE COMMITTEE HAS CONCERNS 3611 02:07:37,750 --> 02:07:39,652 AROUND COMPLIANCE INCENTIVES, IS 3612 02:07:39,652 --> 02:07:41,420 TO STRENGTHEN THE PRIVATE RIGHT 3613 02:07:41,420 --> 02:07:45,457 OF ACTION PROVISIONS OR 3614 02:07:45,457 --> 02:07:48,160 INCORPORATE AGENCY ENFORCEMENT 3615 02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:48,661 THAT ALREADY EXISTS FOR 3616 02:07:48,661 --> 02:07:50,796 EXCESSIVE SECURITY DEPOSITS OR 3617 02:07:50,796 --> 02:07:52,097 GUARANTEE REQUIREMENTS. 3618 02:07:52,097 --> 02:07:54,366 PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER. THIS 3619 02:07:54,366 --> 02:07:56,802 WORK WOULD MOST LIKELY FALL ON 3620 02:07:56,802 --> 02:07:59,138 FAS CONSUMER PROTECTION DIVISION 3621 02:07:59,138 --> 02:08:00,039 AND WOULD HAVE FISCAL IMPACT, 3622 02:08:00,039 --> 02:08:02,107 BUT THOSE HAVE NOT YET BEEN 3623 02:08:02,107 --> 02:08:03,375 CALCULATED OR FLESHED OUT FULLY. 3624 02:08:03,375 --> 02:08:10,182 SO MOVING ON TO THE SECOND 3625 02:08:10,182 --> 02:08:11,850 POLICY CONSIDERATION, THIS BILL 3626 02:08:11,850 --> 02:08:14,787 REQUIRES COMMERCIAL LESSERS TO 3627 02:08:14,787 --> 02:08:17,556 PROVIDE SEVERAL FORMS OF 3628 02:08:17,556 --> 02:08:18,190 DOCUMENTATION TO THEIR TENANTS. 3629 02:08:18,190 --> 02:08:20,059 AS POINTED OUT EARLIER, 3630 02:08:20,059 --> 02:08:21,694 INCLUDING COPIES OF LEASES, 3631 02:08:21,694 --> 02:08:24,463 CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY WHEN 3632 02:08:24,463 --> 02:08:26,432 AVAILABLE, EXISTING CONDITIONS, 3633 02:08:26,432 --> 02:08:27,332 DISCLOSURE FORMS, AND ANNUAL 3634 02:08:27,332 --> 02:08:30,569 STATEMENTS OF TRIPLE NET 3635 02:08:30,569 --> 02:08:32,938 EXPENSES. MANY LANDLORDS ALREADY 3636 02:08:32,938 --> 02:08:35,040 FOLLOW THESE BEST INDUSTRY 3637 02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,543 PRACTICES. HOWEVER, SMALLER 3638 02:08:37,543 --> 02:08:40,546 PROPERTY OWNERS OR THOSE WITH 3639 02:08:40,546 --> 02:08:42,147 LIMITED ADMINISTRATIVE CAPACITY 3640 02:08:42,147 --> 02:08:44,516 MAY FIND THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS 3641 02:08:44,516 --> 02:08:46,085 A LITTLE BIT BURDENSOME AND 3642 02:08:46,085 --> 02:08:48,120 CHALLENGING TO IMPLEMENT. SO IF 3643 02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:51,090 THE COMMITTEE HAS CONCERNS ABOUT 3644 02:08:51,090 --> 02:08:52,725 POTENTIAL ADMINISTRATIVE 3645 02:08:52,725 --> 02:08:54,726 BURDENS, YOU MAY WISH TO 3646 02:08:54,726 --> 02:08:55,260 CONSIDER ADDITIONAL CITY 3647 02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:57,529 SUPPORT, LIKE PROVIDING 3648 02:08:57,529 --> 02:09:00,933 STANDARDIZED TEMPLATES, 3649 02:09:00,933 --> 02:09:03,702 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE OR PHASED 3650 02:09:03,702 --> 02:09:04,303 IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE THAT 3651 02:09:04,303 --> 02:09:07,239 WOULD HELP LESSEN LESSERS MEET 3652 02:09:07,239 --> 02:09:09,308 THE NEW REQUIREMENTS WHILE STILL 3653 02:09:09,308 --> 02:09:11,677 PRESERVING THE TRANSPARENCY 3654 02:09:11,677 --> 02:09:17,750 BENEFITS THAT THIS LEGISLATION 3655 02:09:17,750 --> 02:09:21,620 IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE. AND THE 3656 02:09:21,620 --> 02:09:23,255 THIRD RECORDS COMPLIANCE POLICY 3657 02:09:23,255 --> 02:09:26,158 CONSIDERATIONS. SO THIS BILL 3658 02:09:26,158 --> 02:09:28,260 REQUIRES LESSERS TO PROVIDE ALL 3659 02:09:28,260 --> 02:09:30,729 AFOREMENTIONED DOCUMENTS, BUT 3660 02:09:30,729 --> 02:09:33,031 THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO 3661 02:09:33,031 --> 02:09:33,599 RETAIN THOSE RECORDS, WHICH 3662 02:09:33,599 --> 02:09:35,734 COULD MAKE VERIFYING COMPLIANCE 3663 02:09:35,734 --> 02:09:37,369 MORE DIFFICULT. SO ANOTHER 3664 02:09:37,369 --> 02:09:39,238 POLICY CONSIDERATION IS TO ADD A 3665 02:09:39,238 --> 02:09:40,773 RECORDS RETENTION REQUIREMENT, 3666 02:09:40,773 --> 02:09:43,475 WHICH IS CONSIDERED A BEST 3667 02:09:43,475 --> 02:09:46,044 PRACTICE IN REGULATORY DRAFTING. 3668 02:09:46,044 --> 02:09:48,380 AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO 3669 02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:51,283 STREAMLINE ENFORCEMENT AND 3670 02:09:51,283 --> 02:09:51,817 REDUCE DISPUTES REGARDING 3671 02:09:51,817 --> 02:09:54,753 COMPLIANCE. WHILE THIS 3672 02:09:54,753 --> 02:09:57,156 POTENTIALLY ADDS A LITTLE MORE 3673 02:09:57,156 --> 02:09:58,657 ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN FOR SOME 3674 02:09:58,657 --> 02:10:00,926 LESSORS, ENSURING ALL PARTIES 3675 02:10:00,926 --> 02:10:03,562 HAVE ACCESS TO CONSISTENT, 3676 02:10:03,562 --> 02:10:04,129 VERIFIABLE DOCUMENTS COULD 3677 02:10:04,129 --> 02:10:08,233 OUTWEIGH THOSE CONCERNS. SO NOW, 3678 02:10:08,233 --> 02:10:11,036 GOING INTO OUR CONTEXTUAL POLICY 3679 02:10:11,036 --> 02:10:14,139 CONSIDERATIONS, CERTIFICATE OF 3680 02:10:14,139 --> 02:10:18,076 OCCUPANCY OFTEN PROVIDE BROAD 3681 02:10:18,076 --> 02:10:19,378 AND LIMITED OCCUPANCY 3682 02:10:19,378 --> 02:10:21,747 INFORMATION AND MAY NOT FULLY 3683 02:10:21,747 --> 02:10:22,948 REFLECT ALL ACTIVITIES UNDER THE 3684 02:10:22,948 --> 02:10:25,651 LAND USE CODE, WITH SOME 3685 02:10:25,651 --> 02:10:26,885 BUILDINGS THAT MAY NOT HAVE ONE 3686 02:10:26,885 --> 02:10:28,820 ON RECORD ALTOGETHER. AS WE 3687 02:10:28,820 --> 02:10:30,622 MENTIONED. ON THE OTHER HAND, 3688 02:10:30,622 --> 02:10:33,659 PERMITTED USE DISCLOSURES MORE 3689 02:10:33,659 --> 02:10:34,827 CLEARLY REFLECT WHAT BUSINESS 3690 02:10:34,827 --> 02:10:36,762 ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED IN A 3691 02:10:36,762 --> 02:10:39,565 PARTICULAR SPACE AND COULD 3692 02:10:39,565 --> 02:10:40,132 PARTICULARLY BE HELPFUL FOR 3693 02:10:40,132 --> 02:10:41,333 BUSINESSES THAT MAY STRUGGLE TO 3694 02:10:41,333 --> 02:10:43,836 INTERPRET THEM. THE THE COMPLEX 3695 02:10:43,836 --> 02:10:48,106 CODE REQUIREMENTS, REDUCING THE 3696 02:10:48,106 --> 02:10:50,475 UNEXPECTED NEEDS FOR ADDITIONAL 3697 02:10:50,475 --> 02:10:51,076 PROVEN APPROVALS OR PERMITS. 3698 02:10:51,076 --> 02:10:55,214 AFTER SIGNING A LEASE. HOWEVER, 3699 02:10:55,214 --> 02:10:57,216 UNDERSTANDING A SPACES PERMITTED 3700 02:10:57,216 --> 02:10:59,284 USE IS GENERALLY MORE COMPLEX AS 3701 02:10:59,284 --> 02:11:00,786 CURRENTLY ANY BUILDING OWNER OR 3702 02:11:00,786 --> 02:11:03,188 PROSPECTIVE TENANT COULD CALL 3703 02:11:03,188 --> 02:11:07,259 SDCI TO LOOK UP PERMITTED USE BY 3704 02:11:07,259 --> 02:11:07,859 CRAWFORD. REFERENCES VARIOUS 3705 02:11:07,859 --> 02:11:09,862 PROVISIONS OF THE CODE THAT 3706 02:11:09,862 --> 02:11:11,163 WOULD APPLY TO A PARTICULAR 3707 02:11:11,163 --> 02:11:15,801 BUILDING, SUCH AS ZONING CODE, 3708 02:11:15,801 --> 02:11:16,335 PROVISIONS, BUILDING CODE 3709 02:11:16,335 --> 02:11:20,072 SECTIONS, HISTORICAL PERMITS AND 3710 02:11:20,072 --> 02:11:22,107 APPROVALS, AND OTHER USE 3711 02:11:22,107 --> 02:11:23,242 SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT MAY 3712 02:11:23,242 --> 02:11:25,577 APPLY TO THE BUILDING OR THE 3713 02:11:25,577 --> 02:11:27,412 STRUCTURE. AND THIS IS MORE OF A 3714 02:11:27,412 --> 02:11:30,649 LABOR INTENSIVE THAN PROVIDING 3715 02:11:30,649 --> 02:11:31,250 DELAYED A CERTIFICATE OF 3716 02:11:31,250 --> 02:11:34,086 OCCUPANCY THAT'S ALREADY ON 3717 02:11:34,086 --> 02:11:36,321 FILE. SO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS 3718 02:11:36,321 --> 02:11:38,924 THAT ALWAYS EDDIE AND SDCI PLAN 3719 02:11:38,924 --> 02:11:40,492 TO EXPLORE WAYS TO STREAMLINE 3720 02:11:40,492 --> 02:11:43,295 THIS PROCESS AND EXPAND 3721 02:11:43,295 --> 02:11:44,863 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. SO THE 3722 02:11:44,863 --> 02:11:46,765 COMMITTEE MAY WANT TO RECEIVE A 3723 02:11:46,765 --> 02:11:50,869 STATUS UPDATE AFTER 3724 02:11:50,869 --> 02:11:51,336 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 3725 02:11:51,336 --> 02:11:52,938 LEGISLATION. AND JUST REAL 3726 02:11:52,938 --> 02:11:55,474 QUICKLY IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS 3727 02:11:55,474 --> 02:11:56,842 AND THE UPCOMING SCHEDULE FOR 3728 02:11:56,842 --> 02:11:57,909 COUNCIL ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, 3729 02:11:57,909 --> 02:12:01,880 SEVEN, FIVE. SEPTEMBER 18th AT 3730 02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:04,416 930. WHAT IS THE NEXT DISCUSSION 3731 02:12:04,416 --> 02:12:06,251 AND POSSIBLE VOTE ON AMENDMENTS 3732 02:12:06,251 --> 02:12:11,990 AND FINAL SELECT COMMITTEE? VOTE 3733 02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:13,125 ON THE BILL AND IF ANY 3734 02:12:13,125 --> 02:12:15,127 COUNCILMEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN 3735 02:12:15,127 --> 02:12:15,694 PURSUING AMENDMENTS, PLEASE 3736 02:12:15,694 --> 02:12:16,862 CONTACT CENTRAL STAFF. JASMINE 3737 02:12:16,862 --> 02:12:21,300 AND AYE. NO LATER THAN NOON ON 3738 02:12:21,300 --> 02:12:25,304 SEPTEMBER 9th. BUT PLEASE 3739 02:12:25,304 --> 02:12:27,439 CONTACT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND 3740 02:12:27,439 --> 02:12:31,209 I KNOW THERE'S RACES COMING UP, 3741 02:12:31,209 --> 02:12:31,677 SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR 3742 02:12:31,677 --> 02:12:33,178 PRESENTATION. SO OPEN A 3743 02:12:33,178 --> 02:12:34,713 QUESTIONS. 3744 02:12:34,713 --> 02:12:35,047 -- THANK YOU. 3745 02:12:35,047 --> 02:12:36,481 -- FOR THAT OVERVIEW. YES, THIS 3746 02:12:36,481 --> 02:12:38,717 IS OUR LAST COMMITTEE BEFORE 3747 02:12:38,717 --> 02:12:40,018 RECESS. SO WE ARE STANDING IN 3748 02:12:40,018 --> 02:12:41,553 THE WAY OF FOLKS STARTING THEIR 3749 02:12:41,553 --> 02:12:46,158 RECESS. SO WITH THAT OPENING UP 3750 02:12:46,158 --> 02:12:48,160 TO MY COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS 3751 02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:49,628 ON ALL THE MATERIAL THAT WAS 3752 02:12:49,628 --> 02:12:50,996 PRESENTED FROM THE PRESENTATION 3753 02:12:50,996 --> 02:12:53,131 FROM OED TO THE CENTRAL STAFF 3754 02:12:53,131 --> 02:12:57,002 PRESENTATION SEEING A HAND FROM 3755 02:12:57,002 --> 02:12:58,937 VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 3756 02:12:58,937 --> 02:13:00,072 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR 3757 02:13:00,072 --> 02:13:02,207 RINCK. AND JUST MY APPRECIATION, 3758 02:13:02,207 --> 02:13:04,009 AS ALWAYS, TO THE STAFF AND TEAM 3759 02:13:04,009 --> 02:13:05,143 AT OED FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK 3760 02:13:05,143 --> 02:13:06,778 AND FOR THE CENTRAL STAFF AS 3761 02:13:06,778 --> 02:13:09,047 WELL. REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT 3762 02:13:09,047 --> 02:13:10,415 WENT INTO THIS WITH YOUR 3763 02:13:10,415 --> 02:13:13,051 OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION AND 3764 02:13:13,051 --> 02:13:14,720 RELATIONSHIPS WITH SMALL 3765 02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:16,121 BUSINESSES. I WANT TO ASK A 3766 02:13:16,121 --> 02:13:17,756 COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS 3767 02:13:17,756 --> 02:13:19,358 AROUND THE PERMITTED USE AND 3768 02:13:19,358 --> 02:13:20,826 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, JUST 3769 02:13:20,826 --> 02:13:22,394 TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. 3770 02:13:22,394 --> 02:13:23,028 I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ENDING 3771 02:13:23,028 --> 02:13:25,364 ON THAT NOTE. SO AS WRITTEN, 3772 02:13:25,364 --> 02:13:28,100 THIS POLICY, THIS BILL WOULD 3773 02:13:28,100 --> 02:13:30,669 REQUIRE THE DISCLOSURE OF 3774 02:13:30,669 --> 02:13:32,371 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, BUT 3775 02:13:32,371 --> 02:13:35,607 NOT OF PERMITTED USE. IS THAT 3776 02:13:35,607 --> 02:13:38,176 CORRECT? 3777 02:13:38,176 --> 02:13:39,711 -- YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 3778 02:13:39,711 --> 02:13:40,946 -- OKAY. YEAH. I KNOW YOU ALL 3779 02:13:40,946 --> 02:13:42,481 ARE NODDING YOUR HEADS, BUT 3780 02:13:42,481 --> 02:13:43,515 YOU'VE GOT TO. SO I THINK 3781 02:13:43,515 --> 02:13:44,649 THAT'S HELPFUL. AND I JUST WANT 3782 02:13:44,649 --> 02:13:45,751 TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND 3783 02:13:45,751 --> 02:13:46,651 BECAUSE I WAS HEARING SOME OF 3784 02:13:46,651 --> 02:13:49,054 THE CONCERN AROUND DISCLOSURE 3785 02:13:49,054 --> 02:13:50,722 FOR BUSINESSES, IF THEY'RE 3786 02:13:50,722 --> 02:13:51,857 COMING INTO A SPACE AND THEY 3787 02:13:51,857 --> 02:13:52,491 BELIEVE THAT THAT SPACE COULD BE 3788 02:13:52,491 --> 02:13:55,927 USED. YOU GAVE THAT EXAMPLE OF 3789 02:13:55,927 --> 02:13:56,661 AS A SALON. AND SO WHAT IT SEEMS 3790 02:13:56,661 --> 02:13:59,264 LIKE IS THIS DOES A SORT OF A 3791 02:13:59,264 --> 02:14:01,900 STEP FORWARD IN THAT 3792 02:14:01,900 --> 02:14:03,502 TRANSPARENCY, BUT THERE MAY 3793 02:14:03,502 --> 02:14:06,505 STILL BE A GAP BETWEEN THE 3794 02:14:06,505 --> 02:14:08,707 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND THE 3795 02:14:08,707 --> 02:14:10,675 PERMITTED USE. AND I JUST WANT 3796 02:14:10,675 --> 02:14:13,111 TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE 3797 02:14:13,111 --> 02:14:15,347 ABOUT THE DECISION TO LAND ON 3798 02:14:15,347 --> 02:14:15,881 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, 3799 02:14:15,881 --> 02:14:18,083 WHETHER IT WAS JUST BASED ON 3800 02:14:18,083 --> 02:14:18,717 CAPACITY AND THE THE CHALLENGE 3801 02:14:18,717 --> 02:14:22,687 THAT IT MIGHT PROVIDE FOR FOR A 3802 02:14:22,687 --> 02:14:24,122 LANDLORD, IF THEY ARE GIVING 3803 02:14:24,122 --> 02:14:25,390 THAT TRANSPARENCY TO ASK THEM TO 3804 02:14:25,390 --> 02:14:26,691 DO THE PERMITTED USE. JUST WANT 3805 02:14:26,691 --> 02:14:28,794 TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT 3806 02:14:28,794 --> 02:14:28,994 MORE. 3807 02:14:28,994 --> 02:14:30,729 -- YEAH, I CAN START. AND THEN 3808 02:14:30,729 --> 02:14:31,430 ISAAC, FEEL FREE TO ADD ON AND 3809 02:14:31,430 --> 02:14:34,433 SO ON AS WELL. SO I THINK PART 3810 02:14:34,433 --> 02:14:36,168 OF THAT DECISION IS SOME OF WHAT 3811 02:14:36,168 --> 02:14:37,936 CHAIR CHAIR RINCK NOTED IN HER 3812 02:14:37,936 --> 02:14:39,271 OPENING COMMENTS IS THAT THE 3813 02:14:39,271 --> 02:14:40,105 BUSINESS OWNER MAY KNOW BEST 3814 02:14:40,105 --> 02:14:41,740 KIND OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT 3815 02:14:41,740 --> 02:14:44,109 THEY'RE EXPECTING TO DO AT, AT 3816 02:14:44,109 --> 02:14:45,844 THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS. AND SO 3817 02:14:45,844 --> 02:14:47,179 LIKE AT THE SALON, IF THE SALON 3818 02:14:47,179 --> 02:14:49,147 ALSO WANTS TO LIKE HAVE A CAFE 3819 02:14:49,147 --> 02:14:51,316 OR LIKE A LITTLE COFFEE CART IN 3820 02:14:51,316 --> 02:14:52,717 THE SALON AS WELL, THAT IS 3821 02:14:52,717 --> 02:14:54,286 DIFFERENT THAN JUST A SPACE THAT 3822 02:14:54,286 --> 02:14:56,621 IS PERMITTED AS A SALON. AND SO 3823 02:14:56,621 --> 02:14:57,689 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE 3824 02:14:57,689 --> 02:14:59,391 WERE TRYING TO BALANCE IN THIS 3825 02:14:59,391 --> 02:15:01,393 CAME UP MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE 3826 02:15:01,393 --> 02:15:04,062 STAKEHOLDER CONVERSATIONS, IS 3827 02:15:04,062 --> 02:15:04,529 WHAT'S KIND OF THE 3828 02:15:04,529 --> 02:15:05,564 RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LANDLORD 3829 02:15:05,564 --> 02:15:07,632 OR PROPERTY OWNER TO KIND OF 3830 02:15:07,632 --> 02:15:08,500 LIKE INTUIT. AND THEN ESPECIALLY 3831 02:15:08,500 --> 02:15:11,002 FOR THESE MORE SPECIFIC BUSINESS 3832 02:15:11,002 --> 02:15:12,437 USES, KIND OF RUN TO GROUND WHAT 3833 02:15:12,437 --> 02:15:14,272 THAT SPACE IS PERMITTED FOR 3834 02:15:14,272 --> 02:15:16,808 COMPARED TO THE BUSINESS OWNER, 3835 02:15:16,808 --> 02:15:17,442 PARTICULARLY WHEN THAT BUSINESS 3836 02:15:17,442 --> 02:15:20,011 OWNER MIGHT HAVE KIND OF LIKE AN 3837 02:15:20,011 --> 02:15:20,545 EVOLUTION OR A DIFFERENT 3838 02:15:20,545 --> 02:15:24,583 BUSINESS MODEL THAN WHAT WAS IN 3839 02:15:24,583 --> 02:15:25,016 THAT SPACE BEFORE. 3840 02:15:25,016 --> 02:15:27,118 -- YEAH, I THINK BUILDING OFF OF 3841 02:15:27,118 --> 02:15:29,521 THAT IS JUST LANDLORDS WERE 3842 02:15:29,521 --> 02:15:32,858 CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING BEING 3843 02:15:32,858 --> 02:15:33,792 LIABLE FOR BOTH UNDERSTANDING 3844 02:15:33,792 --> 02:15:34,326 CITY REGULATIONS AND THE 3845 02:15:34,326 --> 02:15:36,862 BUSINESS OWNER'S INTENT. AND SO 3846 02:15:36,862 --> 02:15:37,996 THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS 3847 02:15:37,996 --> 02:15:43,869 KIND OF A CLEANER WAY TO PROVIDE 3848 02:15:43,869 --> 02:15:44,503 READILY AVAILABLE INFORMATION. 3849 02:15:44,503 --> 02:15:48,340 AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE. 3850 02:15:48,340 --> 02:15:50,642 -- THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S 3851 02:15:50,642 --> 02:15:51,576 HELPFUL. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, TO 3852 02:15:51,576 --> 02:15:52,244 SAY IT DIFFERENTLY, IT'S, YOU 3853 02:15:52,244 --> 02:15:54,613 KNOW, YOU WANT TO LEAVE THAT 3854 02:15:54,613 --> 02:15:55,747 FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE A BUSINESS 3855 02:15:55,747 --> 02:15:57,649 OWNER MAY BE COMING IN WITH AN 3856 02:15:57,649 --> 02:15:58,650 INTENT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN 3857 02:15:58,650 --> 02:16:01,052 THE EXISTED PERMITTED USE. AND 3858 02:16:01,052 --> 02:16:02,621 SO WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IS 3859 02:16:02,621 --> 02:16:05,524 IT FELT LIKE GOING, GOING TO THE 3860 02:16:05,524 --> 02:16:06,391 EXTENT OF HAVING THEM DISCLOSE 3861 02:16:06,391 --> 02:16:09,327 THE PERMITTED USE, MAYBE SORT OF 3862 02:16:09,327 --> 02:16:10,395 ADDED ADDITIONAL WORK, GIVEN 3863 02:16:10,395 --> 02:16:11,763 THAT A BUSINESS OWNER MAY WANT 3864 02:16:11,763 --> 02:16:12,964 TO DEPART FROM THAT CURRENT 3865 02:16:12,964 --> 02:16:14,099 PERMITTED USE BASED ON THEIR 3866 02:16:14,099 --> 02:16:16,234 VISION FOR THE SPACE. 3867 02:16:16,234 --> 02:16:17,335 -- EXACTLY. AND THAT IT'S PART 3868 02:16:17,335 --> 02:16:18,670 OF THE BUSINESS OWNER'S 3869 02:16:18,670 --> 02:16:19,971 RESPONSIBILITY TO KIND OF DO 3870 02:16:19,971 --> 02:16:21,840 THAT HOMEWORK AND MAKE SURE IF 3871 02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:23,975 THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT, 3872 02:16:23,975 --> 02:16:24,409 THAT DIFFERENT USE. 3873 02:16:24,409 --> 02:16:25,110 -- THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. THANK 3874 02:16:25,110 --> 02:16:27,312 YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THEN 3875 02:16:27,312 --> 02:16:28,513 MY SECOND, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF 3876 02:16:28,513 --> 02:16:29,214 THIS COUNTS AS A SECOND OR A 3877 02:16:29,214 --> 02:16:31,683 FOURTH QUESTION, BUT IS JUST I 3878 02:16:31,683 --> 02:16:33,418 WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT 3879 02:16:33,418 --> 02:16:35,520 MORE ABOUT THE PLANNED WORK 3880 02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:37,155 BETWEEN OPCD AND SDCI. THAT WAS 3881 02:16:37,155 --> 02:16:38,290 MENTIONED TOWARDS THE END OF THE 3882 02:16:38,290 --> 02:16:43,628 PRESENTATION 3883 02:16:43,628 --> 02:16:44,996 -- YEAH. SO AS I MENTIONED, 3884 02:16:44,996 --> 02:16:46,998 THERE IS A PORTAL WHERE YOU CAN 3885 02:16:46,998 --> 02:16:49,668 LOOK UP THE CERTIFICATE OF 3886 02:16:49,668 --> 02:16:51,970 OCCUPANCY. AND THERE'S ALSO A 3887 02:16:51,970 --> 02:16:53,405 KEY STAFF MEMBER, PETER 3888 02:16:53,405 --> 02:16:55,273 FURMINGER AT SDCI, WHO HELPS 3889 02:16:55,273 --> 02:16:58,310 SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS NAVIGATE 3890 02:16:58,310 --> 02:16:58,877 SDCI PROCESS. SO I THINK WE 3891 02:16:58,877 --> 02:17:01,746 WOULD COORDINATE WITH THE SDCI 3892 02:17:01,746 --> 02:17:02,681 LEADERSHIP AND POLICY TEAM JUST 3893 02:17:02,681 --> 02:17:03,582 TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND 3894 02:17:03,582 --> 02:17:06,484 THAT THEY MAY BE GETTING MORE 3895 02:17:06,484 --> 02:17:07,118 REQUESTS IF THIS COMES THROUGH. 3896 02:17:07,118 --> 02:17:07,953 IF THERE ARE LANDLORDS WHO 3897 02:17:07,953 --> 02:17:10,388 AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT 3898 02:17:10,388 --> 02:17:11,423 SYSTEM OR KNOW HOW TO LOOK UP 3899 02:17:11,423 --> 02:17:13,258 THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR 3900 02:17:13,258 --> 02:17:14,459 THEIR SPACE, THAT THEY MIGHT GET 3901 02:17:14,459 --> 02:17:18,129 A LITTLE BIT MORE CALLS. BUT WE, 3902 02:17:18,129 --> 02:17:21,333 THE SDCI, SAID THAT THEY 3903 02:17:21,333 --> 02:17:23,301 ANTICIPATE ABSORBING THAT IN 3904 02:17:23,301 --> 02:17:23,902 THEIR COSTS AND THAT JUST WE 3905 02:17:23,902 --> 02:17:24,836 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT 3906 02:17:24,836 --> 02:17:26,037 WEB PAGES ARE CROSS LINKED TO 3907 02:17:26,037 --> 02:17:31,576 EACH OTHER. SO IT'S EASIER FOR 3908 02:17:31,576 --> 02:17:32,077 LANDLORDS TO NAVIGATE. 3909 02:17:32,077 --> 02:17:34,779 -- GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 3910 02:17:34,779 --> 02:17:35,013 CHAIR. 3911 02:17:35,013 --> 02:17:36,081 -- THANK YOU FOR THOSE 3912 02:17:36,081 --> 02:17:38,416 QUESTIONS, VICE CHAIR FOSTER 3913 02:17:38,416 --> 02:17:41,152 COLLEAGUES, I'M NOT SEEING ANY 3914 02:17:41,152 --> 02:17:41,853 ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AND SO AT 3915 02:17:41,853 --> 02:17:43,588 THIS POINT, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT 3916 02:17:43,588 --> 02:17:44,923 TAKING ACTION ON THIS TODAY, BUT 3917 02:17:44,923 --> 02:17:45,924 RATHER THERE WILL BE AN 3918 02:17:45,924 --> 02:17:46,758 OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S AN 3919 02:17:46,758 --> 02:17:49,227 AMENDMENT DEADLINE. I BELIEVE 3920 02:17:49,227 --> 02:17:49,794 AMENDMENT CONCEPTS ARE DUE 3921 02:17:49,794 --> 02:17:52,030 WEDNESDAY AT NOON AT THE THE 9th 3922 02:17:52,030 --> 02:17:53,732 OF SEPTEMBER. FABULOUS. THANK 3923 02:17:53,732 --> 02:17:55,634 YOU SO MUCH. AND HUGE THANK YOU 3924 02:17:55,634 --> 02:17:56,801 TO THE TEAM FOR YOUR CONTINUED 3925 02:17:56,801 --> 02:17:58,637 WORK AND ENGAGEMENT IN SHAPING 3926 02:17:58,637 --> 02:18:00,739 THIS AND COMING BEFORE COMMITTEE 3927 02:18:00,739 --> 02:18:02,974 TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL 3928 02:18:02,974 --> 02:18:04,042 RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE 3929 02:18:04,042 --> 02:18:06,144 REACHED THE END OF TODAY'S VERY 3930 02:18:06,144 --> 02:18:08,546 BUSY AGENDA. IS THERE ANY 3931 02:18:08,546 --> 02:18:10,448 FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE 3932 02:18:10,448 --> 02:18:14,119 THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE ADJOURN 3933 02:18:14,119 --> 02:18:15,420 SEEING NONE, THE NEXT HUMAN 3934 02:18:15,420 --> 02:18:17,088 SERVICES, LABOR AND ECONOMIC 3935 02:18:17,088 --> 02:18:17,622 DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IS 3936 02:18:17,622 --> 02:18:19,591 SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 11th, 3937 02:18:19,591 --> 02:18:21,793 2026 AT 9:30 A.M.. HEARING NO 3938 02:18:21,793 --> 02:18:22,327 FURTHER BUSINESS, WE ARE 3939 02:18:22,327 --> 02:18:25,297 ADJOURNED. IT I