1 00:00:09,909 --> 00:00:14,247 [MUSIC] 2 00:00:14,381 --> 00:00:15,548 -- GOOD MORNING. THE HUMAN 3 00:00:15,548 --> 00:00:17,417 SERVICES, LABOR AND ECONOMIC 4 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:18,018 DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE OF THE 5 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:19,352 SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW 6 00:00:19,352 --> 00:00:22,922 COME TO ORDER. IT IS 9:32 A.M. 7 00:00:22,922 --> 00:00:25,492 FRIDAY, AUGUST 7th, 2026. I'M 8 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:26,126 COUNCILMEMBER ALEXIS MERCEDES 9 00:00:26,126 --> 00:00:27,894 RINCK, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. 10 00:00:27,894 --> 00:00:28,561 WILL THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE 11 00:00:28,561 --> 00:00:29,829 CALL THE ROLL AND LET THE RECORD 12 00:00:29,829 --> 00:00:31,598 REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER 13 00:00:31,598 --> 00:00:34,434 JUAREZ IS EXCUSED? 14 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:39,339 -- VICE CHAIR FOSTER HERE. 15 00:00:39,339 --> 00:00:40,774 COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH. 16 00:00:40,774 --> 00:00:41,408 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HERE. CHAIR 17 00:00:41,408 --> 00:00:43,243 RINCK. 18 00:00:43,243 --> 00:00:43,510 -- HERE. 19 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:45,445 -- THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS 20 00:00:45,445 --> 00:00:46,813 PRESENT AND ONE EXCUSED. 21 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:48,081 -- GREAT. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO 22 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:49,416 APPROVAL OF TODAY'S AGENDA. IF 23 00:00:49,416 --> 00:00:51,618 THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE 24 00:00:51,618 --> 00:00:54,320 AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING 25 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,290 NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS 26 00:00:57,290 --> 00:00:59,793 ADOPTED. HI, EVERYONE. WELCOME 27 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:00,460 TO TODAY'S COMMITTEE MEETING. 28 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:01,294 IT'S EXCITING TO SEE CHAMBERS 29 00:01:01,294 --> 00:01:03,430 SO FULL. ON A FRIDAY MORNING, WE 30 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:06,166 HAVE A ROBUST AGENDA TODAY WITH 31 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:07,333 THREE ITEMS. FIRST, WE WILL HAVE 32 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:09,035 A BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION ON AN 33 00:01:09,035 --> 00:01:10,437 AMENDMENT TO THE DOMESTIC 34 00:01:10,437 --> 00:01:11,638 WORKERS ORDINANCE. BY WAY OF 35 00:01:11,638 --> 00:01:13,406 BACKGROUND, IN 2018, SEATTLE 36 00:01:13,406 --> 00:01:15,241 BECAME THE FIRST CITY IN THE 37 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,110 NATION TO PASS A DOMESTIC 38 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:18,912 WORKERS BILL OF RIGHTS, WHICH 39 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:19,479 CODIFIED FUNDAMENTAL LABOR 40 00:01:19,479 --> 00:01:21,815 RIGHTS, INCLUDING MINIMUM WAGE, 41 00:01:21,815 --> 00:01:22,749 MEAL AND REST BREAKS AND 42 00:01:22,749 --> 00:01:24,851 PROTECTIONS AGAINST RETALIATION 43 00:01:24,851 --> 00:01:27,253 AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT FOR 44 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:29,422 DOMESTIC WORKERS. ADDITIONALLY, 45 00:01:29,422 --> 00:01:29,956 THIS LANDMARK LEGISLATION 46 00:01:29,956 --> 00:01:30,757 FOUNDED THE DOMESTIC WORKER 47 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:32,125 STANDARDS BOARD, WHO BRIEFED 48 00:01:32,125 --> 00:01:34,127 THIS COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS 49 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,362 YEAR. AND THANK YOU TO 50 00:01:36,362 --> 00:01:37,030 COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ FOR YOUR 51 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:39,232 PREVIOUS WORK ON THE FORMER 52 00:01:39,232 --> 00:01:39,766 COUNCIL FOR THE ORIGINAL 53 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,234 DOMESTIC WORKERS ORDINANCE. 54 00:01:41,234 --> 00:01:42,502 NOTABLY, EARLIER THIS YEAR 55 00:01:42,502 --> 00:01:45,338 DURING THE STATE LEGISLATIVE 56 00:01:45,338 --> 00:01:47,941 SESSION UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF 57 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:48,575 THE 34th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT, 58 00:01:48,575 --> 00:01:50,376 STATE REPRESENTATIVE BRIANNA 59 00:01:50,376 --> 00:01:52,712 THOMAS, THE STATE LEGISLATURE 60 00:01:52,712 --> 00:01:53,947 PASSED A STATEWIDE DOMESTIC 61 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:56,449 WORKERS BILL OF RIGHTS THAT 62 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:57,083 INCLUDED ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS, 63 00:01:57,083 --> 00:01:58,585 INCLUDING REQUIREMENTS AROUND 64 00:01:58,585 --> 00:02:00,887 WRITTEN AGREEMENTS AND ADVANCED 65 00:02:00,887 --> 00:02:01,754 TERMINATION NOTICE. THIS MEANS 66 00:02:01,754 --> 00:02:03,223 THAT THERE'S A GREAT 67 00:02:03,223 --> 00:02:05,492 OPPORTUNITY NOW FOR SEATTLE TO 68 00:02:05,492 --> 00:02:06,960 UPDATE OUR OWN ORDINANCE AND MY 69 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,495 OFFICE, ALONGSIDE THE OFFICE OF 70 00:02:08,495 --> 00:02:10,396 LABOR STANDARDS, HAS DONE WORK 71 00:02:10,396 --> 00:02:11,931 TO ENGAGE WITH THE DOMESTIC 72 00:02:11,931 --> 00:02:13,733 WORKER STANDARDS BOARD, AS WELL 73 00:02:13,733 --> 00:02:15,668 AS WITH OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS 74 00:02:15,668 --> 00:02:16,302 SUPPORTING DOMESTIC WORKERS TO 75 00:02:16,302 --> 00:02:17,637 LOOK AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO 76 00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:18,671 EXPAND ON THOSE LABOR 77 00:02:18,671 --> 00:02:19,906 PROTECTIONS. SO VERY EXCITED TO 78 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:22,075 HEAR FROM THEM TODAY. OUR SECOND 79 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:24,244 ITEM ON THE AGENDA WILL BE A 80 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:25,145 BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION FROM THE 81 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:26,579 MAYOR'S OFFICE, ALONG WITH 82 00:02:26,579 --> 00:02:29,182 NATIONAL SUBJECT EXPERTS ON THE 83 00:02:29,182 --> 00:02:32,018 DRAFT FAIR PRICING AND 84 00:02:32,018 --> 00:02:33,253 TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE. I WILL 85 00:02:33,253 --> 00:02:35,922 BE SAVING MY REMARKS ON THAT 86 00:02:35,922 --> 00:02:36,556 PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION. 87 00:02:36,556 --> 00:02:37,157 WHEN WE HEAR THE ITEM AND OUR 88 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:38,291 THIRD AND FINAL ITEM FOR 89 00:02:38,291 --> 00:02:40,026 TODAY'S AGENDA IS A BRIEFING 90 00:02:40,026 --> 00:02:41,794 AND DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR'S 91 00:02:41,794 --> 00:02:44,664 OFFICE AND THE CITY'S HUMAN 92 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:45,265 SERVICES DEPARTMENT REGARDING 93 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:46,966 THE CITY'S PLAN TO TRANSITION 94 00:02:46,966 --> 00:02:48,434 HUMAN SERVICES CONTRACTS 95 00:02:48,434 --> 00:02:50,870 CURRENTLY HELD BY KING COUNTY 96 00:02:50,870 --> 00:02:51,504 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY 97 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:52,739 BACK UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE 98 00:02:52,739 --> 00:02:54,274 CITY OF SEATTLE. AS A REMINDER 99 00:02:54,274 --> 00:02:56,543 TO THE COMMITTEE AND MEMBERS OF 100 00:02:56,543 --> 00:02:57,644 THE PUBLIC, THIS REPORT THAT 101 00:02:57,644 --> 00:02:59,579 WE'LL BE HEARING ABOUT LATER 102 00:02:59,579 --> 00:03:00,180 TODAY WAS A REQUIREMENT AS A 103 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,216 PART OF THE KCJ NEXT STEPS 104 00:03:03,216 --> 00:03:03,816 RESOLUTION PASSED BY COUNCIL 105 00:03:03,816 --> 00:03:05,118 EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND WITH 106 00:03:05,118 --> 00:03:07,086 THAT, WE WILL NOW OPEN THE 107 00:03:07,086 --> 00:03:08,388 PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC 108 00:03:08,388 --> 00:03:10,290 COMMENTS SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS 109 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:12,559 ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR WITHIN 110 00:03:12,559 --> 00:03:13,693 PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE. CLERK 111 00:03:13,693 --> 00:03:14,827 HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP 112 00:03:14,827 --> 00:03:16,262 FOR TODAY? 113 00:03:16,262 --> 00:03:18,198 -- CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 23 114 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:19,899 IN-PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND 115 00:03:19,899 --> 00:03:21,267 13 REMOTE SPEAKERS. 116 00:03:21,267 --> 00:03:22,869 -- OKAY, SINCE WE HAVE MORE THAN 117 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:25,972 30 SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, EACH 118 00:03:25,972 --> 00:03:26,506 SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN ONE 119 00:03:26,506 --> 00:03:28,074 MINUTE. WE WILL START WITH 120 00:03:28,074 --> 00:03:30,310 IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST. CLARK, 121 00:03:30,310 --> 00:03:31,411 CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC 122 00:03:31,411 --> 00:03:33,546 COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS? 123 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:34,180 -- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 124 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:36,382 WILL BE MODERATED IN THE 125 00:03:36,382 --> 00:03:36,983 FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC 126 00:03:36,983 --> 00:03:38,384 COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 60 127 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:39,319 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED 128 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:41,654 IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY 129 00:03:41,654 --> 00:03:42,855 REGISTERED. SPEAKERS WILL 130 00:03:42,855 --> 00:03:43,389 ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS OF 131 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:44,724 IN-PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS 132 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:45,858 UNTIL THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 133 00:03:45,858 --> 00:03:48,394 HAS ENDED. PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING 134 00:03:48,394 --> 00:03:49,429 BY STATING YOUR NAME AND THE 135 00:03:49,429 --> 00:03:51,297 ITEM THAT YOU ARE ADDRESSING. 136 00:03:51,297 --> 00:03:52,899 SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN 137 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:53,967 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT ON YOUR 138 00:03:53,967 --> 00:03:55,435 TIME. SPEAKERS MICS WILL BE 139 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:58,104 MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END THEIR 140 00:03:58,104 --> 00:03:58,705 COMMENTS WITHIN THE ALLOTTED 141 00:03:58,705 --> 00:03:59,973 TIME. TO ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE 142 00:03:59,973 --> 00:04:01,507 NEXT SPEAKER. THE PUBLIC COMMENT 143 00:04:01,507 --> 00:04:02,909 PERIOD IS NOW OPEN, AND WE WILL 144 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:04,043 BEGIN WITH THE FIRST SPEAKER ON 145 00:04:04,043 --> 00:04:05,578 THE LIST. 146 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:06,813 -- GREAT. SO TO MANAGE TODAY'S 147 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:07,947 PUBLIC COMMENTS, SINCE WE HAVE 148 00:04:07,947 --> 00:04:09,983 SO MANY FOLKS SIGNED UP, I'LL BE 149 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:11,584 READING NAMES IN ORDER OF FIVE. 150 00:04:11,584 --> 00:04:12,452 AND SO JUST SO FOLKS KNOW WHEN 151 00:04:12,452 --> 00:04:15,121 TO GET READY. SO FIRST, WE'LL 152 00:04:15,121 --> 00:04:17,123 HEAR FROM MAYA MORALES, FOLLOWED 153 00:04:17,123 --> 00:04:19,892 BY JULIE BOYANA, THEN ROBIN 154 00:04:19,892 --> 00:04:20,960 TURNER, ANNIKA SULZBACH, AND 155 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,464 THEN AMANDA DALTON. SO MAYA, IF 156 00:04:24,464 --> 00:04:26,499 YOU WANT TO COME UP AND WE HAVE 157 00:04:26,499 --> 00:04:27,433 THREE MICS AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS, 158 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:28,134 THERE'S A TWO AT THE FRONT AND 159 00:04:28,134 --> 00:04:30,403 THEN ONE OVER HERE. SO CHOOSE 160 00:04:30,403 --> 00:04:33,006 WHICH ONE YOU'D LIKE BEST 161 00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:34,507 -- THIS ONE'S GOOD FOR 162 00:04:34,507 --> 00:04:36,476 SHORTIES. MY MORALES, FOUNDER OF 163 00:04:36,476 --> 00:04:37,243 WASHINGTON PEOPLE'S PRIVACY, 164 00:04:37,243 --> 00:04:38,077 HERE TO ADDRESS YOU ON THE FAIR 165 00:04:38,077 --> 00:04:41,214 AND TRANSPARENT PRICING 166 00:04:41,214 --> 00:04:42,315 ORDINANCE. AGAINST THE BACKDROP 167 00:04:42,315 --> 00:04:44,317 OF MAJOR FEDERAL FIGHTS TO 168 00:04:44,317 --> 00:04:45,184 PROTECT PEOPLE FROM BIG TECH, 169 00:04:45,184 --> 00:04:47,420 BILLIONAIRE DRIVEN MASS DATA 170 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:47,987 SURVEILLANCE THAT'S BEEN 171 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:49,489 INVADING EVERY ASPECT OF 172 00:04:49,489 --> 00:04:51,224 PEOPLE'S LIVES. SEATTLE'S 173 00:04:51,224 --> 00:04:51,858 ORDINANCE TO PROTECT CONSUMERS 174 00:04:51,858 --> 00:04:53,559 FROM ALGORITHMIC PRICE 175 00:04:53,559 --> 00:04:54,727 DISCRIMINATION IS PERFECTLY 176 00:04:54,727 --> 00:04:56,496 TIMED TO MEET THIS MOMENT. IT IS 177 00:04:56,496 --> 00:04:58,598 TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR 178 00:04:58,598 --> 00:05:00,166 LAWMAKERS TO MAKE IT CLEAR 179 00:05:00,166 --> 00:05:01,367 CORPORATE GREED DOESN'T BELONG 180 00:05:01,367 --> 00:05:04,037 IN OUR GROCERY CARTS. 181 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:04,637 DISCRIMINATORY AND PREDATORY. 182 00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:05,938 PREDATORY PRICING ALGORITHMS ARE 183 00:05:05,938 --> 00:05:07,407 DRIVING UP PEOPLE'S PRICES IN 184 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:08,875 ONLINE GROCERY AND DELIVERY 185 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:10,510 SERVICES, AND CORPORATIONS WANT 186 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:13,112 TO USE AI POWERED TECH TO 187 00:05:13,112 --> 00:05:14,747 INTENSIVELY PROFILE AND 188 00:05:14,747 --> 00:05:16,282 PERSONALIZE PRICES IN PHYSICAL 189 00:05:16,282 --> 00:05:18,084 STORES AS WELL. ON THURSDAY 190 00:05:18,084 --> 00:05:19,485 MORNING, A MISLEADING TEXT 191 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:21,754 MESSAGE WAS BLASTED OUT TO 192 00:05:21,754 --> 00:05:22,322 SEATTLE CONSUMERS, CLAIMING 193 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:22,955 LAWMAKERS WANT TO MAKE GROCERIES 194 00:05:22,955 --> 00:05:25,024 MORE EXPENSIVE WHEN THE TRUTH IS 195 00:05:25,024 --> 00:05:29,429 THE EXACT OPPOSITE. SEATTLE CAN 196 00:05:29,429 --> 00:05:29,996 ENSURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T 197 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:33,466 TRICKED BY TOTALLY MISLEADING 198 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:34,901 DISCOUNTS AND MAKE GROCERIES 199 00:05:34,901 --> 00:05:35,702 MORE AFFORDABLE. THANK YOU SO 200 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:38,905 MUCH FOR YOUR WORK 201 00:05:38,905 --> 00:05:40,707 -- GREAT. NEXT UP, WE'LL HAVE 202 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:44,577 JULIE, FOLLOWED BY ROBIN. 203 00:05:44,577 --> 00:05:46,579 -- MY NAME IS JULIE BWANA. I'M 204 00:05:46,579 --> 00:05:48,114 WITH THE WASHINGTON FAIR TRADE 205 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:49,649 COALITION HERE TO ADDRESS THE 206 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:51,517 FAIR PRICING ORDINANCE. 207 00:05:51,517 --> 00:05:52,852 EVERYWHERE I GO, WHETHER IT'S A 208 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:54,087 LOCAL UNION MEETING, A PICKET 209 00:05:54,087 --> 00:05:55,555 LINE, A MIGRANT DEFENSE RALLY, 210 00:05:55,555 --> 00:05:57,423 WORKING PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES 211 00:05:57,423 --> 00:05:58,958 ARE FEARFUL ABOUT THE ALGORITHMS 212 00:05:58,958 --> 00:06:00,593 THAT MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS 213 00:06:00,593 --> 00:06:02,328 IMPACTING THEIR DAY TO DAY 214 00:06:02,328 --> 00:06:04,097 LIVES, FROM THE WORKPLACE TO 215 00:06:04,097 --> 00:06:05,565 HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING, WITH 216 00:06:05,565 --> 00:06:08,134 LITTLE TO NO HUMAN OVERSIGHT OR 217 00:06:08,134 --> 00:06:10,937 REGULATION. AND NOW ALGORITHMS 218 00:06:10,937 --> 00:06:12,305 SOURCING OUR PRIVATE DATA ARE 219 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:13,406 DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT WORKING 220 00:06:13,406 --> 00:06:14,207 FAMILIES CAN PUT FOOD ON THE 221 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:16,509 TABLE. AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY 222 00:06:16,509 --> 00:06:17,677 UNACCEPTABLE. THIS ORDINANCE IS 223 00:06:17,677 --> 00:06:19,946 AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP IN 224 00:06:19,946 --> 00:06:20,446 REINING IN BIG TECH'S 225 00:06:20,446 --> 00:06:22,215 DISCRIMINATORY SURVEILLANCE. 226 00:06:22,215 --> 00:06:22,815 CORPORATE LOBBYISTS WILL SAY 227 00:06:22,815 --> 00:06:24,550 THAT WITHOUT THESE PREDATORY 228 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:27,687 ALGORITHMS, THEY CAN OFFER 229 00:06:27,687 --> 00:06:29,088 DISCOUNTS OR LOYALTY PROGRAMS 230 00:06:29,088 --> 00:06:30,623 THAT THEY'VE BEEN OFFERING 231 00:06:30,623 --> 00:06:31,090 SINCE WELL BEFORE THE 232 00:06:31,090 --> 00:06:32,091 SURVEILLANCE TECH EXISTED. SO 233 00:06:32,091 --> 00:06:34,560 THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE. 234 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,629 CORPORATIONS KNOW THAT THIS BOLD 235 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:38,564 FAIRNESS AND PRIVACY LEGISLATION 236 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:39,732 WOULD PROHIBIT THEIR USE OF 237 00:06:39,732 --> 00:06:40,867 PREDATORY SURVEILLANCE TO PAD 238 00:06:40,867 --> 00:06:42,301 THEIR PROFITS OFF THE BACKS OF 239 00:06:42,301 --> 00:06:45,571 WORKING PEOPLE. SO NO RECORD 240 00:06:45,571 --> 00:06:47,173 PRICES FOR BIG TECH WORKING 241 00:06:47,173 --> 00:06:47,673 PEOPLE DESERVE THE SAME 242 00:06:47,673 --> 00:06:49,375 TRANSPARENT PRICES FOR FROM 243 00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:50,243 RETAILERS. WHEN WE SHOP, 244 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:51,411 ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING AS 245 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:56,716 BASIC AS GROCERIES. THANK YOU. 246 00:06:56,716 --> 00:07:02,221 -- NEXT UP WE HAVE ROBIN TURNER 247 00:07:02,221 --> 00:07:06,359 FOLLOWED BY ROBIN WILL HAVE 248 00:07:06,359 --> 00:07:06,726 ANIKA SULZBACH. 249 00:07:06,726 --> 00:07:08,494 -- HI, I'M ROBIN TURNER WITH THE 250 00:07:08,494 --> 00:07:10,463 WORKING FAMILIES PARTY. 251 00:07:10,463 --> 00:07:12,365 LAWMAKERS NEED TO ACT NOW TO BAN 252 00:07:12,365 --> 00:07:14,801 COMPANIES FROM PERSONALIZING 253 00:07:14,801 --> 00:07:16,169 GROCERY STORE PRICES FOR 254 00:07:16,169 --> 00:07:17,470 INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS. BECAUSE 255 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:18,104 RETAILERS HAVE BEEN ROLLING OUT 256 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:22,608 THEIR PRICING, UNFAIR PRICING. 257 00:07:22,608 --> 00:07:24,510 AND WE DESERVE PROTECTION FROM 258 00:07:24,510 --> 00:07:26,345 OUR CITY COUNCIL. WE ALL DESERVE 259 00:07:26,345 --> 00:07:28,281 THE SAME TRANSPARENT BASE PRICES 260 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:29,816 FROM THE PLACES THAT WE SHOP, 261 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:32,051 ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING AS 262 00:07:32,051 --> 00:07:33,953 BASIC, AS AN ESSENTIAL AS 263 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,756 GROCERIES. THANK YOU. 264 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:39,292 -- [APPLAUSE] 265 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:41,494 -- ROBIN. NEXT, WE'LL HEAR FROM 266 00:07:41,494 --> 00:07:43,863 ANIKA, FOLLOWED BY AMANDA DALTON 267 00:07:43,863 --> 00:07:51,137 AND I GOT NEXT. 268 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:54,006 -- HI, I'M ANIKA WITH WITH 269 00:07:54,006 --> 00:07:55,408 WORKING FAMILIES PARTY. GROCERY 270 00:07:55,408 --> 00:07:56,843 PRICES ARE CLIMBING OUT OF 271 00:07:56,843 --> 00:07:59,011 CONTROL TO THE POINT WHERE 272 00:07:59,011 --> 00:08:01,180 PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY GOING INTO 273 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:04,217 CREDIT CARD DEBT TO PURCHASE 274 00:08:04,217 --> 00:08:04,650 FOOD. AS THE TRUMP 275 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:07,520 ADMINISTRATION CUTS SNAP 276 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,455 BENEFITS AND FOOD BANKS STRUGGLE 277 00:08:09,455 --> 00:08:13,960 TO MEET NEEDS, INCLUDING 278 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,627 PEOPLE'S NEED TO STAY SAFE BY 279 00:08:14,627 --> 00:08:19,765 ORDERING GROCERIES ONLINE. WE 280 00:08:19,765 --> 00:08:22,034 NEED OUR LAWMAKERS TO ACT NOW TO 281 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:24,337 PROTECT PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO 282 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:24,937 GOOD, HEALTHY AND AFFORDABLE 283 00:08:24,937 --> 00:08:28,107 FOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME 284 00:08:28,107 --> 00:08:28,341 TODAY. 285 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:32,078 -- [APPLAUSE] 286 00:08:32,078 --> 00:08:35,314 -- THANK YOU. NEXT IS AMANDA 287 00:08:35,314 --> 00:08:35,548 DALTON. 288 00:08:35,548 --> 00:08:36,582 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND 289 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:37,917 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AMANDA 290 00:08:37,917 --> 00:08:39,986 DALTON, ON BEHALF OF THE 291 00:08:39,986 --> 00:08:40,519 NORTHWEST GROCERY RETAIL 292 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:41,921 ASSOCIATION. OUR ASSOCIATION 293 00:08:41,921 --> 00:08:42,989 FOOTPRINT IS IN THE PACIFIC 294 00:08:42,989 --> 00:08:44,423 NORTHWEST, AND THAT GIVES US 295 00:08:44,423 --> 00:08:45,625 VISIBILITY INTO WHAT OTHER 296 00:08:45,625 --> 00:08:46,959 CITIES AND STATES ARE DOING. ON 297 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:49,462 TUESDAY, I'LL BE TESTIFYING IN 298 00:08:49,462 --> 00:08:52,164 PORTLAND ON THE SAME TOPIC 299 00:08:52,164 --> 00:08:52,798 ALONGSIDE LABOR REPRESENTATIVES 300 00:08:52,798 --> 00:08:54,300 ON A MORE EXPANSIVE POLICY, ALL 301 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:56,502 THERE IN SUPPORT BECAUSE IT 302 00:08:56,502 --> 00:08:58,237 CONTAINS CLEAR PROTECTIONS THAT 303 00:08:58,237 --> 00:08:59,906 PREVENT CONSUMERS FROM BEING 304 00:08:59,906 --> 00:09:01,841 CHARGED HIGHER PRICES BASED ON 305 00:09:01,841 --> 00:09:04,210 THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION, 306 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:05,945 WHILE PRESERVING THE SAVINGS AND 307 00:09:05,945 --> 00:09:06,779 DISCOUNTS. I WISH I WAS HERE 308 00:09:06,779 --> 00:09:07,713 TODAY TO TELL YOU THAT THE 309 00:09:07,713 --> 00:09:08,614 PROPOSED ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU 310 00:09:08,614 --> 00:09:10,816 DOES THE SAME, BUT IT DOES NOT. 311 00:09:10,816 --> 00:09:12,184 I ALSO WISH I WAS INVITED TO THE 312 00:09:12,184 --> 00:09:12,919 PRESENTERS TABLE TODAY TO SPEAK 313 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:14,954 ON THIS TOPIC, INSTEAD OF JUST A 314 00:09:14,954 --> 00:09:16,355 LIST OF PROPONENTS, BUT I WAS 315 00:09:16,355 --> 00:09:18,557 NOT TO BE CLEAR BY MEMBERS 316 00:09:18,557 --> 00:09:20,760 SUPPORT PROHIBITING THE USE OF 317 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,394 PERSONAL INFORMATION TO INCREASE 318 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:22,094 PRICES. BUT THE ORDINANCE SHOULD 319 00:09:22,094 --> 00:09:25,231 BE CAREFULLY CRAFTED SO IT DOES 320 00:09:25,231 --> 00:09:25,865 NOT UNINTENTIONALLY RESTRICT THE 321 00:09:25,865 --> 00:09:26,499 DISCOUNTS AND REWARDS PROGRAMS 322 00:09:26,499 --> 00:09:27,500 THAT HELP FAMILIES, RENTERS, 323 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:29,402 YOUR NEIGHBORS AND CONSTITUENTS. 324 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:30,703 THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY BEFORE 325 00:09:30,703 --> 00:09:32,071 YOU WORKS AGAINST THE COUNCIL'S 326 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:34,140 GOALS TO MAKE SEATTLE MORE 327 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:35,107 AFFORDABLE AND GETTING THIS 328 00:09:35,107 --> 00:09:37,376 POLICY RIGHT THE FIRST TIME 329 00:09:37,376 --> 00:09:37,944 MATTERS BECAUSE UNINTENDED 330 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:39,779 CONSEQUENCES COULD MEAN FEWER 331 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:40,513 SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE 332 00:09:40,513 --> 00:09:41,147 VERY CONSUMERS THE ORDINANCE IS 333 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:45,117 MEANT TO PROTECT. THANK YOU. 334 00:09:45,117 --> 00:09:47,687 -- THANK YOU AMANDA. NEXT UP WE 335 00:09:47,687 --> 00:09:49,488 HAVE DAVID HILL, FOLLOWED BY 336 00:09:49,488 --> 00:09:51,490 JOHN MIXON, THEN GABRIEL NEWMAN 337 00:09:51,490 --> 00:10:01,334 AND THEN ROSE FELICIANO. 338 00:10:01,334 --> 00:10:02,468 -- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 339 00:10:02,468 --> 00:10:03,769 DAVID HILL. I'M THE TREASURER 340 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:05,438 OF THE TRANSIT RIDERS UNION. 341 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:06,272 I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS OUR 342 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:08,507 SUPPORT FOR THE FAIR AND 343 00:10:08,507 --> 00:10:09,141 TRANSPARENT PRICING ORDINANCE. 344 00:10:09,141 --> 00:10:11,110 AS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, OUR FELLOW 345 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:12,611 RIDERS AND NEIGHBORS ARE 346 00:10:12,611 --> 00:10:13,512 STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH 347 00:10:13,512 --> 00:10:15,081 SEATTLE'S RISING COST OF 348 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:16,015 LIVING. FOOD PRICES KEEP GOING 349 00:10:16,015 --> 00:10:17,316 UP TO THE POINT THAT SOME FOLKS 350 00:10:17,316 --> 00:10:18,484 ARE TAKING ON CREDIT CARD DEBT 351 00:10:18,484 --> 00:10:20,553 JUST TO BUY GROCERIES. 352 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:22,388 MEANWHILE, CORPORATE GROCERS ARE 353 00:10:22,388 --> 00:10:24,023 USING INVASIVE TECH LIKE 354 00:10:24,023 --> 00:10:24,657 BLUETOOTH SENSORS AND BEACONS TO 355 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:26,692 TRACK US AND BLACK BOX 356 00:10:26,692 --> 00:10:28,260 ALGORITHMS TO GUESS THE MAXIMUM 357 00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:29,362 PRICE EACH PERSON IS WILLING TO 358 00:10:29,362 --> 00:10:32,765 PAY FOR BASIC NECESSITIES. THIS 359 00:10:32,765 --> 00:10:34,467 ISN'T FAIR PRICING, IT'S MASS 360 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:36,002 DATA SURVEILLANCE USED TO 361 00:10:36,002 --> 00:10:36,569 EXTRACT EXTRA REVENUE FROM 362 00:10:36,569 --> 00:10:38,871 WORKING FAMILIES. ALREADY, 363 00:10:38,871 --> 00:10:40,573 CORPORATE GROCERS ARE RESORTING 364 00:10:40,573 --> 00:10:43,242 TO SCARE TACTICS TO OPPOSE THIS 365 00:10:43,242 --> 00:10:43,876 MEASURE, FALSELY CLAIMING THAT 366 00:10:43,876 --> 00:10:46,779 IT WILL END ALL LOYALTY PROGRAMS 367 00:10:46,779 --> 00:10:48,047 AND DISCOUNTS. THIS ORDINANCE 368 00:10:48,047 --> 00:10:48,714 DOESN'T BLOCK STANDARD REWARDS 369 00:10:48,714 --> 00:10:51,650 OR DISCOUNTS, IT SIMPLY STOPS 370 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:52,151 CORPORATIONS FROM USING 371 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,387 PREDATORY, PERSONALIZED PRICING 372 00:10:54,387 --> 00:10:56,188 TRICKS. WE DESERVE TRANSPARENT 373 00:10:56,188 --> 00:10:57,456 PRICES ON BASIC NECESSITIES. 374 00:10:57,456 --> 00:10:58,658 PLEASE PASS THIS ORDINANCE AS 375 00:10:58,658 --> 00:10:59,291 IS. 376 00:10:59,291 --> 00:11:01,727 -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME 377 00:11:01,727 --> 00:11:05,798 -- [APPLAUSE] 378 00:11:05,798 --> 00:11:08,901 -- THANK YOU DAVID. NEXT WE HAVE 379 00:11:08,901 --> 00:11:10,503 JOHN MIXON. 380 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:12,872 -- HI, MY NAME IS JOHN AND I'M 381 00:11:12,872 --> 00:11:14,440 A MEMBER OF AMAZON EMPLOYEES FOR 382 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,108 CLIMATE JUSTICE AND A FORMER 383 00:11:16,108 --> 00:11:16,676 SENIOR MARKETING MANAGER AT 384 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:18,377 AMAZON WITH 20 YEARS OF 385 00:11:18,377 --> 00:11:20,279 EXPERIENCE ADVISING CONSUMER 386 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:21,881 GOODS COMPANIES ON MAXIMIZING 387 00:11:21,881 --> 00:11:24,517 SALES. AMAZON HAS USED OLDER 388 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:25,151 VERSIONS OF ALGORITHMIC PRICING 389 00:11:25,151 --> 00:11:27,853 FOR YEARS. IN 2023, AN FTC 390 00:11:27,853 --> 00:11:30,256 LAWSUIT REVEALED THAT AMAZON HAD 391 00:11:30,256 --> 00:11:31,323 MADE $1 BILLION AFTER USING A 392 00:11:31,323 --> 00:11:32,825 SECRET ALGORITHM TO RAISE 393 00:11:32,825 --> 00:11:34,593 PRICING, AND JUST LAST MONTH, 394 00:11:34,593 --> 00:11:36,195 AMAZON EMPLOYEES REVEALED IN 395 00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:37,797 LAWSUITS THAT AMAZON HELPED 396 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:40,466 PRESSURE SUPPLIERS TO RAISE 397 00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:41,367 PRICES AT NON-AMAZON RETAILERS. 398 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:43,602 THESE ALGORITHMS ARE FOR RAISING 399 00:11:43,602 --> 00:11:44,770 PRICES, NOT LOWERING THEM. 400 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:46,238 COMPANIES WANT TO PROFIT OFF OUR 401 00:11:46,238 --> 00:11:48,274 PERSONAL DATA, NOT GIVE MONEY TO 402 00:11:48,274 --> 00:11:49,742 CONSUMERS. BRINGING THIS 403 00:11:49,742 --> 00:11:51,644 TECHNOLOGY TO GROCERY PRICING IS 404 00:11:51,644 --> 00:11:54,346 A DYSTOPIAN IN THE EXTREME 405 00:11:54,346 --> 00:11:54,980 BECAUSE IT REQUIRES THAT PEOPLE 406 00:11:54,980 --> 00:11:56,248 HAND OVER THEIR INTIMATE DATA TO 407 00:11:56,248 --> 00:11:56,882 SUPPOSEDLY SAVE A LITTLE MONEY 408 00:11:56,882 --> 00:11:59,752 ON THEIR FOOD BILLS. BUT 409 00:11:59,752 --> 00:12:02,154 ALGORITHMIC PRICING IS NOT ABOUT 410 00:12:02,154 --> 00:12:02,788 INCREASING CORPORATE PROFITS. I 411 00:12:02,788 --> 00:12:04,023 KNOW THIS PERSONALLY FROM MY 412 00:12:04,023 --> 00:12:06,192 CAREER. AI IS LIKELY TO MAKE THE 413 00:12:06,192 --> 00:12:08,627 CREEPIEST OF BIG DATA EVEN WORSE 414 00:12:08,627 --> 00:12:09,862 BECAUSE IT HALLUCINATES. I CAN 415 00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:10,563 EASILY IMAGINE A FUTURE WHERE A 416 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:12,665 MOTHER GOES INTO A STORE TO BUY 417 00:12:12,665 --> 00:12:14,600 DIAPERS AND WHOA, SUDDENLY 418 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,901 THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. LET'S KEEP 419 00:12:15,901 --> 00:12:17,870 PRICING FAIR, TRANSPARENT, AND 420 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:20,172 AFFORDABLE. THANK YOU 421 00:12:20,172 --> 00:12:24,710 -- [APPLAUSE] 422 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:25,811 -- UP NEXT, WE'LL HAVE GABRIEL 423 00:12:25,811 --> 00:12:30,249 NEWMAN AND THEN FOLLOWED BY ROSE 424 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:30,549 FELICIANO. 425 00:12:30,549 --> 00:12:32,885 -- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 426 00:12:32,885 --> 00:12:35,521 GABRIEL NEWMAN. I'M TESTIFYING 427 00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:36,989 ON BEHALF OF GSBA, WASHINGTON'S 428 00:12:36,989 --> 00:12:38,824 LGBTQ AND ALLIED CHAMBER OF 429 00:12:38,824 --> 00:12:39,358 COMMERCE IN CAPITOL HILLS 430 00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:40,359 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS WELL. 431 00:12:40,359 --> 00:12:42,194 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO 432 00:12:42,194 --> 00:12:43,362 FINDING INNOVATIVE WAYS TO MEET 433 00:12:43,362 --> 00:12:43,863 THE MOMENT AND ADDRESS 434 00:12:43,863 --> 00:12:46,031 SEATTLE'S AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. 435 00:12:46,031 --> 00:12:47,266 WE SUPPORT THE IDEA OF LIMITING 436 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:49,301 THE ABILITY FOR GROCERS TO 437 00:12:49,301 --> 00:12:50,903 ALGORITHMICALLY RAISE PRICES 438 00:12:50,903 --> 00:12:51,737 AGAINST CONSUMERS. WE ALSO WANT 439 00:12:51,737 --> 00:12:53,205 TO URGE YOU TO PRESERVE THE 440 00:12:53,205 --> 00:12:55,074 ABILITY FOR COMPANIES AND 441 00:12:55,074 --> 00:12:55,741 GROCERS TO BRING PROMOTIONS TO 442 00:12:55,741 --> 00:12:57,143 THEIR USERS, BANNING THE 443 00:12:57,143 --> 00:12:58,544 PRACTICE OF SETTING PRICES BASED 444 00:12:58,544 --> 00:13:01,213 ON A SHOPPERS PERSONAL DATA 445 00:13:01,213 --> 00:13:01,814 DEVICE OR LOCATION CAN MEAN 446 00:13:01,814 --> 00:13:03,415 GETTING RID OF THINGS LIKE FUEL 447 00:13:03,415 --> 00:13:05,151 DISCOUNTS, PERSONALIZED SAVINGS 448 00:13:05,151 --> 00:13:08,854 OR REWARD PROGRAMS. DIGITAL 449 00:13:08,854 --> 00:13:09,355 COUPONS AND PROMOTIONS. 450 00:13:09,355 --> 00:13:11,056 CUSTOMERS REGULARLY RELY ON 451 00:13:11,056 --> 00:13:13,959 THESE TO SAVE MONEY, HOWEVER, 452 00:13:13,959 --> 00:13:14,593 RAISING PRICES ON ORDINARY ITEMS 453 00:13:14,593 --> 00:13:15,794 IN ORDER TO ADVERTISE DISCOUNTS 454 00:13:15,794 --> 00:13:19,398 ON THEM IS NOT OKAY. HOWEVER, 455 00:13:19,398 --> 00:13:19,999 GIVING PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS 456 00:13:19,999 --> 00:13:20,733 FOR EXAMPLE, AN ALGORITHM 457 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:22,067 NOTICES I ROUTINELY PURCHASE 458 00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:23,269 DIAPERS, SO IT GIVES ME HALF 459 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:25,137 OFF. A PACIFIER IS A BENEFIT 460 00:13:25,137 --> 00:13:26,539 THAT PROVIDES COST SAVING 461 00:13:26,539 --> 00:13:27,907 MEASURES THAT CONSUMERS RELY ON 462 00:13:27,907 --> 00:13:29,375 TO STRETCH THEIR BUDGETS. SMALL 463 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:31,110 AND LOCAL BUSINESSES USE THESE 464 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:32,611 TARGETED DISCOUNTS TO REACH MORE 465 00:13:32,611 --> 00:13:34,613 CUSTOMERS AND COMPETE AGAINST 466 00:13:34,613 --> 00:13:35,848 BIGGER COMPANIES. I'M CONFIDENT 467 00:13:35,848 --> 00:13:36,448 THAT SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL CAN 468 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:38,551 WORK ON THIS LEGISLATION TO 469 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:39,818 PROVIDE ESSENTIAL CONSUMER 470 00:13:39,818 --> 00:13:41,120 PROTECTIONS, WHILE ALSO ENSURING 471 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,555 FOLKS CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO 472 00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:43,822 THE DISCOUNTS THEY RELY ON AS 473 00:13:43,822 --> 00:13:47,626 THEY NAVIGATE THE CURRENT 474 00:13:47,626 --> 00:13:50,296 AFFORDABILITY. 475 00:13:50,296 --> 00:13:51,463 -- THANK YOU GABRIEL. NEXT UP, 476 00:13:51,463 --> 00:13:54,366 WE'LL HAVE ROSE. AND THEN TO 477 00:13:54,366 --> 00:13:55,000 READ THE NEXT CHUNK OF SPEAKERS, 478 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,336 WE HAVE LARS ERICKSON, FOLLOWED 479 00:13:57,336 --> 00:13:58,938 BY SILVIA GONZALEZ, SHAWNY 480 00:13:58,938 --> 00:14:01,473 WHEELER, AND THEN JORDAN 481 00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:02,174 GOLDBERG. GOOD MORNING 482 00:14:02,174 --> 00:14:03,509 COMMITTEE. MY NAME. 483 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:05,077 -- IS ROSE FELICIANO. I AM HERE 484 00:14:05,077 --> 00:14:06,946 ON BEHALF OF TECHNET. WE SUPPORT 485 00:14:06,946 --> 00:14:09,181 THE COUNCIL'S GOAL OF 486 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:09,782 PROTECTING SEATTLE CONSUMERS 487 00:14:09,782 --> 00:14:12,685 FROM DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES, 488 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:13,252 PARTICULARLY WHEN PERSONAL 489 00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:16,288 INFORMATION IS USED TO CHARGE A 490 00:14:16,288 --> 00:14:17,556 PRICE TO AN INDIVIDUAL. OUR 491 00:14:17,556 --> 00:14:18,958 CONCERN THAT, AS DRAFTED, THE 492 00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:21,527 ORDINANCE MAY UNINTENTIONALLY 493 00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:22,795 CAPTURE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE 494 00:14:22,795 --> 00:14:24,897 USE OF INFORMATION TO GIVE 495 00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:25,531 CUSTOMERS DISCOUNTS, PROMOTIONS 496 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:28,000 OR OTHER BENEFITS. WE ARE ASKING 497 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,469 FOR A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD 498 00:14:30,469 --> 00:14:32,271 FIX. DRAW A CLEAR LINE BETWEEN 499 00:14:32,271 --> 00:14:37,209 DATA USED TO RAISE A CUSTOMER'S 500 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:37,843 PRICE, AND USING INFORMATION TO 501 00:14:37,843 --> 00:14:39,645 LOWER THE CUSTOMER'S PRICE. I 502 00:14:39,645 --> 00:14:41,780 SENT YOU A LETTER OUTLINING SOME 503 00:14:41,780 --> 00:14:43,549 SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT. WE 504 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:45,084 BELIEVE WE CAN. YOU CAN 505 00:14:45,084 --> 00:14:47,720 ACCOMPLISH BOTH OF THESE THINGS 506 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,153 AND APPRECIATE YOUR 507 00:14:48,153 --> 00:14:51,991 CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. 508 00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:53,392 -- THANK YOU. ROSE. NEXT UP, 509 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:56,262 WE'LL HEAR FROM LARS ERICKSON, 510 00:14:56,262 --> 00:15:01,267 FOLLOWED BY SILVIA GONZALEZ 511 00:15:01,267 --> 00:15:02,301 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR RINCK AND 512 00:15:02,301 --> 00:15:03,469 COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M LARS 513 00:15:03,469 --> 00:15:05,170 ERICKSON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF 514 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:06,672 THE 2600 MEMBERS OF THE SEATTLE 515 00:15:06,672 --> 00:15:08,674 METROPOLITAN CHAMBER OF 516 00:15:08,674 --> 00:15:09,241 COMMERCE. I UNDERSTAND THE 517 00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:11,510 CONCERNS THAT PROMPTED THIS 518 00:15:11,510 --> 00:15:13,679 PROPOSAL. IF A RETAILER USES 519 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:14,313 PERSONAL INFORMATION TO CHARGE 520 00:15:14,313 --> 00:15:16,282 SOMEONE MORE, WE SHOULD STOP IT. 521 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:17,716 BUT RETAILERS OPERATING IN 522 00:15:17,716 --> 00:15:18,384 SEATTLE HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT 523 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:20,786 THEY DO NOT ENGAGE IN THAT 524 00:15:20,786 --> 00:15:22,121 PRACTICE. AND WE HAVE. AND THE 525 00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:23,522 EVIDENCE PRESENTED TODAY WILL 526 00:15:23,522 --> 00:15:25,791 NOT PROVE OTHERWISE. PRICE 527 00:15:25,791 --> 00:15:26,325 VARIATION IS NOT PROOF OF 528 00:15:26,325 --> 00:15:27,960 SURVEILLANCE. PRICING PRICES CAN 529 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,195 DIFFER FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS, 530 00:15:30,195 --> 00:15:32,698 INCLUDING LOCATION DELIVERY 531 00:15:32,698 --> 00:15:38,103 COSTS, INVENTORY AND PROMOTIONS. 532 00:15:38,103 --> 00:15:38,704 NOTHING PRESENTED ESTABLISHES 533 00:15:38,704 --> 00:15:39,271 THAT SEATTLE RETAILERS USE 534 00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:41,473 SOMEONE'S PERSONAL INFORMATION 535 00:15:41,473 --> 00:15:43,542 TO RAISE THEIR PRICE. WE 536 00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:44,176 APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER RINCK 537 00:15:44,176 --> 00:15:46,412 AND MAYOR WILSON'S OFFICE'S 538 00:15:46,412 --> 00:15:48,314 EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS 539 00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:48,881 OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 540 00:15:48,881 --> 00:15:51,250 HOWEVER, IN THE LATEST VERSION 541 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:52,584 OF THE LEGISLATION, THE BROAD 542 00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:54,453 DEFINITIONS COULD STILL THREATEN 543 00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:56,488 COUPONS AND LOYALTY PROGRAMS 544 00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:58,490 PLEASE ADDRESS THE UNINTENDED 545 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:00,960 CONSEQUENCES, NARROW THE ACTUAL 546 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,660 PRICE INCREASES AND REMOVE THE 547 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:05,597 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION. THANK 548 00:16:05,597 --> 00:16:05,798 YOU. 549 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:07,966 -- THANK YOU LARS. NEXT UP, 550 00:16:07,966 --> 00:16:10,769 WE'LL HEAR FROM SYLVIA. SYLVIA 551 00:16:10,769 --> 00:16:14,340 GONZALEZ, THANK YOU 552 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,542 -- TRABAJO Y DESARROLLO 553 00:16:16,542 --> 00:16:19,445 ECONOMICO. SYLVIA GONZALEZ. 554 00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:20,045 ORGANIZADORA COMUNITARIA CON 555 00:16:20,045 --> 00:16:21,880 CASA LATINA, O PRESIDENTE DEL 556 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,349 DOMESTIC SAN DIEGO Y TRABAJADORA 557 00:16:23,349 --> 00:16:25,351 DE LUGAR POR MAS DE ANOS, ANTES 558 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:27,553 DE COMENZAR. QUIERO RECONOCER A 559 00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:29,054 TODOS LOS TRABAJADORAS DE LUGAR 560 00:16:29,054 --> 00:16:30,923 SE HAN ESTADO EN LA LUCHA POR 561 00:16:30,923 --> 00:16:32,758 LOS DERECHOS DE LOS TRABAJADORAS 562 00:16:32,758 --> 00:16:35,194 DE LUGAR. ESAS PODEROSAS MUJERES 563 00:16:35,194 --> 00:16:37,029 ABRIERON CAMINO PARA SEGUIR 564 00:16:37,029 --> 00:16:38,731 ADELANTE. HOY ESTOY AQUI PARA 565 00:16:38,731 --> 00:16:39,798 HABLAR DE LA IMPORTANCIA DE LAS 566 00:16:39,798 --> 00:16:43,202 TIENDAS O COMO LO MENCIONO 567 00:16:43,202 --> 00:16:43,702 ANTERIORMENTE LA LA LA 568 00:16:43,702 --> 00:16:45,170 ACTUALIZAR LA ORDENANZA PARA LAS 569 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:48,107 TRABAJADORAS DE LUGAR PARA 570 00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:50,042 SEATTLE ESO HISTORIA SIENDO LA 571 00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:51,643 CIUDAD DE TODA LA NATION AND 572 00:16:51,643 --> 00:16:53,545 PASAR UNA CARTA DE LAS 573 00:16:53,545 --> 00:16:55,147 TRABAJADORES DE LA CON PERO Es 574 00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:57,583 MUY BASICAS PARA UNA COMUNIDAD 575 00:16:57,583 --> 00:16:59,852 VULNERABLE, PERO NO SOLO 576 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,887 NECESITAMOS NECESITAMOS MAS COMO 577 00:17:01,887 --> 00:17:04,089 EL DERECHO. DE ACUERDO ESCRITO. 578 00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:06,592 DONDE PODAMOS NEGOCIAR NUESTRAS 579 00:17:06,592 --> 00:17:07,159 RESPONSABILIDADES HORARIOS 580 00:17:07,159 --> 00:17:09,328 DESCANSOS ENTRE OTRAS COSAS Y SE 581 00:17:09,328 --> 00:17:11,463 COMPRA, PORQUE LAS PALABRAS 582 00:17:11,463 --> 00:17:13,165 CLAVE EL VIENTO YO VEO ALGUNAS 583 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:14,800 DE MIS COMPANERAS NO TIENEN 584 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,003 AGENDAS TIENEN AGENDAS DE PAPEL 585 00:17:18,003 --> 00:17:19,438 DONDE TRABAJADORES Y LOS 586 00:17:19,438 --> 00:17:22,307 CORRESPONDENT DE PAGO PAGO 587 00:17:22,307 --> 00:17:25,077 ENTIDAD CONTRA LA CREACION DE 588 00:17:25,077 --> 00:17:27,312 CONSERVACION DE REGISTROS DE 589 00:17:27,312 --> 00:17:29,681 PAGO TRABAJADORES PARA HACER MAS 590 00:17:29,681 --> 00:17:32,451 CLAROS TRANSPARENTES ESTAS A LA 591 00:17:32,451 --> 00:17:35,220 CARTE DE LA PARTE EN LINEA CON 592 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:38,223 LAS ACCIONES GANADOS 593 00:17:38,223 --> 00:17:38,791 RECIENTEMENTE A NIVEL TOTAL 594 00:17:38,791 --> 00:17:40,692 SIENDO EL VALOR Y LA DIGNIDAD 595 00:17:40,692 --> 00:17:43,629 SECTOR LABORAL REALIZAR EL 596 00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:45,297 TRABAJO SE HACE POSIBLE TODOS 597 00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:49,735 LOS DEMAS. THANK YOU. 598 00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:50,102 -- THANK YOU. 599 00:17:50,102 --> 00:17:51,970 -- THANK YOU ALL. I'M GOING TO 600 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:53,405 TAKE A MOMENT JUST FOR BRIEF 601 00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:54,773 CHAIRS. PRIVILEGE. SILVIA, WE DO 602 00:17:54,773 --> 00:17:55,941 NOT HAVE A TRANSLATOR PRESENT 603 00:17:55,941 --> 00:17:57,543 TODAY, BUT SILVIA PROVIDED HER 604 00:17:57,543 --> 00:17:58,977 COMMENTS. IT ALSO TRANSLATED 605 00:17:58,977 --> 00:17:59,812 INTO ENGLISH. AND SO I'M GOING 606 00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:01,513 TO READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD IN 607 00:18:01,513 --> 00:18:02,114 ENGLISH TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE 608 00:18:02,114 --> 00:18:04,750 HERE TODAY CAN HEAR HER WORDS. 609 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:06,185 SO BRIEFLY. I'LL SPEAK TO THIS. 610 00:18:06,185 --> 00:18:07,686 GOOD MORNING. HUMAN SERVICES, 611 00:18:07,686 --> 00:18:08,787 LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 612 00:18:08,787 --> 00:18:09,688 COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS SILVIA 613 00:18:09,688 --> 00:18:11,657 GONZALEZ, A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER 614 00:18:11,657 --> 00:18:13,225 WITH CASA LATINA, CO-CHAIR OF 615 00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:14,693 THE DOMESTIC WORKERS STANDARDS 616 00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:16,528 BOARD AND A DOMESTIC WORKER FOR 617 00:18:16,528 --> 00:18:17,863 OVER 15 YEARS. BEFORE I BEGIN, I 618 00:18:17,863 --> 00:18:19,331 WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE 619 00:18:19,331 --> 00:18:20,098 DOMESTIC WORKERS WHO HAVE BEEN 620 00:18:20,098 --> 00:18:21,934 FIGHTING FOR DOMESTIC WORKERS 621 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:24,036 RIGHTS, THOSE POWERFUL WOMEN WHO 622 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:24,636 PAVED THE WAY FOR US TO MOVE 623 00:18:24,636 --> 00:18:25,704 FORWARD. TODAY, I'M HERE TO 624 00:18:25,704 --> 00:18:26,405 TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 625 00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:29,007 AMENDMENTS. OR, AS COUNCILWOMAN 626 00:18:29,007 --> 00:18:30,876 RINCK MENTIONED, UPDATING THE 627 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:32,644 ORDINANCE FOR DOMESTIC WORKERS. 628 00:18:32,644 --> 00:18:33,779 SEVEN YEARS AGO, SEATTLE MADE 629 00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:35,214 HISTORY BY BEING THE FIRST CITY 630 00:18:35,214 --> 00:18:36,648 IN THE NATION TO PASS A BILL FOR 631 00:18:36,648 --> 00:18:39,384 DOMESTIC WORKERS WITH VERY BASIC 632 00:18:39,384 --> 00:18:39,885 PROTECTIONS FOR SUCH A 633 00:18:39,885 --> 00:18:41,420 VULNERABLE COMMUNITY. BUT WE 634 00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:45,124 DON'T JUST NEED THE BASICS. WE 635 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:45,757 DESERVE MORE, SUCH AS THE RIGHT 636 00:18:45,757 --> 00:18:46,725 TO DEMAND A WRITTEN AGREEMENT 637 00:18:46,725 --> 00:18:48,494 WHERE WE CAN NEGOTIATE OUR 638 00:18:48,494 --> 00:18:49,094 RESPONSIBILITIES, SCHEDULES, 639 00:18:49,094 --> 00:18:50,229 BREAKS AND OTHER THINGS AND THAT 640 00:18:50,229 --> 00:18:52,397 WHAT IS AGREED UPON IS RESPECTED 641 00:18:52,397 --> 00:18:53,832 AND FULFILLED. BECAUSE WORDS ARE 642 00:18:53,832 --> 00:18:54,900 JUST WORDS. I SEE SOME OF MY 643 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:56,535 COLLEAGUES USING PAPER PLANNERS 644 00:18:56,535 --> 00:18:57,236 TO RECORD THEIR HOURS, WORKED 645 00:18:57,236 --> 00:18:58,637 WITH THEIR CORRESPONDING PAY, 646 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:00,072 BUT I BELIEVE WE MUST ALSO 647 00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:01,573 REQUIRE EMPLOYERS TO CREATE AND 648 00:19:01,573 --> 00:19:03,308 MAINTAIN PAY AND HOURLY WORK 649 00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:06,011 RECORDS TO BE CLEARER AND MORE 650 00:19:06,011 --> 00:19:06,645 TRANSPARENT, ADDING RETALIATION 651 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:07,446 PROTECTIONS FOR DOMESTIC WORKERS 652 00:19:07,446 --> 00:19:08,947 BY TAKING PAID SICK LEAVE OR 653 00:19:08,947 --> 00:19:11,717 SAFE LEAVE OR OTHER AGREED UPON 654 00:19:11,717 --> 00:19:13,552 TIME OFF, REQUIRING ADVANCE 655 00:19:13,552 --> 00:19:15,120 NOTICE OF TERMINATION, ALIGNING 656 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,922 OLS ENFORCEMENT CODE WITH OTHER 657 00:19:16,922 --> 00:19:17,422 LABOR STANDARDS. THESE 658 00:19:17,422 --> 00:19:18,190 AMENDMENTS TO THE SEATTLE 659 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:18,824 CHARTER BRING US IN LINE WITH 660 00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:22,628 THE RECENTLY WON STATEWIDE 661 00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:23,162 PROTECTIONS, VALUING AND 662 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:23,695 RECOGNIZING THE VALUE AND 663 00:19:23,695 --> 00:19:25,197 DIGNITY OF THIS SECTOR, OF THE 664 00:19:25,197 --> 00:19:25,831 WORKFORCE THAT PERFORMS THE WORK 665 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:26,832 THAT MAKES EVERYTHING ELSE 666 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:31,937 POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. RIGHT. WITH 667 00:19:31,937 --> 00:19:33,739 THAT, WE WILL NOW BE GOING TO 668 00:19:33,739 --> 00:19:38,176 OUR NEXT SPEAKER, SHAUNIE 669 00:19:38,176 --> 00:19:41,446 WHEELER. 670 00:19:41,446 --> 00:19:42,047 -- GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING 671 00:19:42,047 --> 00:19:42,848 COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOHNNY 672 00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:44,583 WHEELER. I SERVE AS THE DEPUTY 673 00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:45,851 EXECUTIVE SECRETARY TREASURER OF 674 00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:47,653 MLK LABOR. WE REPRESENT OVER 675 00:19:47,653 --> 00:19:48,654 200,000 WORKERS ACROSS THE GREAT 676 00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:50,589 KING COUNTY. SEATTLE HAS NEVER 677 00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:52,124 BEEN A CITY THAT WAITS FOR 678 00:19:52,124 --> 00:19:53,625 SOMEONE ELSE TO LEAD. WE COUNTED 679 00:19:53,625 --> 00:19:54,560 OURSELVES AMONGST THE FIRST TO 680 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,929 PASS THE FIRST 15 MINIMUM WAGE 681 00:19:56,929 --> 00:19:58,730 ORDINANCE. WE PASSED 682 00:19:58,730 --> 00:20:00,132 GROUNDBREAKING SICK AND PAID 683 00:20:00,132 --> 00:20:01,200 LEAVE, AND TIME AGAIN, SEATTLE 684 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,335 HAS SHOWN THAT WORKING PEOPLE 685 00:20:03,335 --> 00:20:04,469 COME TOGETHER TO FACE A THREAT. 686 00:20:04,469 --> 00:20:06,038 WE DO IT COLLECTIVELY. WE ACT 687 00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:07,506 BOLDLY, AND WE STAND TOGETHER. 688 00:20:07,506 --> 00:20:10,142 AND WE'RE ALSO A MODEL FOR OTHER 689 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:11,610 CITIES TO FOLLOW. TODAY, WE HAVE 690 00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:14,179 ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD SUCH 691 00:20:14,179 --> 00:20:15,614 STRONG SURVEILLANCE BANS ACROSS 692 00:20:15,614 --> 00:20:17,049 THE COUNTRY. WORKING PEOPLE ARE 693 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:20,485 ALREADY STRUGGLING FOR HOUSING, 694 00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:22,554 TRANSPORTATION, GROCERIES AND 695 00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:23,755 HEALTH CARE. AND I HAVE TWO 696 00:20:23,755 --> 00:20:25,757 YOUNG ADULT CHILDREN WHO ARE 697 00:20:25,757 --> 00:20:26,959 WORKING CLASS FOLKS WHO LIVE ON 698 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:28,060 THEIR OWN. AND I KNOW HOW HARD 699 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:30,495 IT IS TO MAKE RENT AND GROCERIES 700 00:20:30,495 --> 00:20:31,363 STRETCH AT THE SAME TIME. SO 701 00:20:31,363 --> 00:20:32,264 LIKE MOST PARENTS, THEY COME TO 702 00:20:32,264 --> 00:20:35,400 MY HOUSE WHEN THEIR BUDGET RUNS 703 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,068 LOW FOR GROCERIES. I OFTEN JOKE 704 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:37,302 WITH THEM THAT THEY DON'T SEE ME 705 00:20:37,302 --> 00:20:38,637 ANYMORE. THEY COME VISIT MY 706 00:20:38,637 --> 00:20:41,773 REFRIGERATOR. BUT THE TRUTH IS, 707 00:20:41,773 --> 00:20:42,307 IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT HOW 708 00:20:42,307 --> 00:20:45,010 EXPENSIVE IT IS TO GET BY. 709 00:20:45,010 --> 00:20:47,079 -- AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 710 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:47,546 STORES USING PERSONAL 711 00:20:47,546 --> 00:20:48,580 INFORMATION, SHOPPING HISTORY, 712 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:49,581 OR IN ORDER TO DECIDE WHETHER 713 00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:54,386 THEY PAY $0.50 MORE FOR BABY 714 00:20:54,386 --> 00:20:54,987 FORMULA THAN THEIR NEIGHBORS. 715 00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:57,322 THANK YOU 716 00:20:57,322 --> 00:20:58,490 -- SORRY. YES I KNOW, SORRY. 717 00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:59,925 WE'RE AT ONE MINUTE. 718 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:00,259 -- [LAUGHTER] 719 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,728 -- YES, IT'S VERY QUICK. I 720 00:21:02,728 --> 00:21:03,028 APOLOGIZE. 721 00:21:03,028 --> 00:21:03,762 -- THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO 722 00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:04,896 STAND AS A COLLECTIVE BODY. 723 00:21:04,896 --> 00:21:06,365 WE'VE ALREADY PUT YOU ALL OUR 724 00:21:06,365 --> 00:21:08,000 RESOLUTIONS TO DATE THAT THIS IS 725 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,600 THE PROPERTY TO COLLECTIVELY. 726 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,668 THANK YOU. 727 00:21:09,668 --> 00:21:14,172 -- THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK 728 00:21:14,172 --> 00:21:16,174 YOU. SORRY ALL 60s IS SHORT, BUT 729 00:21:16,174 --> 00:21:18,110 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 730 00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:18,477 EVERYBODY'S. 731 00:21:18,477 --> 00:21:18,810 -- [LAUGHTER] 732 00:21:18,810 --> 00:21:22,214 -- WELL 733 00:21:22,214 --> 00:21:24,850 -- ALL RIGHT Y'ALL. OKAY. NEXT 734 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:26,218 WE HAVE JORDAN, GOLDBERG AND 735 00:21:26,218 --> 00:21:28,987 JAMIE, FOLLOWED BY JAMIE 736 00:21:28,987 --> 00:21:30,922 FACKLER, NOLAN TARBOX, AND THEN 737 00:21:30,922 --> 00:21:34,159 STACEY HIGGINBOTHAM. I APOLOGIZE 738 00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:36,662 IF I MISPRONOUNCED THAT. JORDAN. 739 00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:37,929 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 740 00:21:37,929 --> 00:21:39,531 THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS 741 00:21:39,531 --> 00:21:40,966 JORDAN GOLDBERG. I'M A RESIDENT 742 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:44,202 OF DISTRICT FOUR AND A MEMBER OF 743 00:21:44,202 --> 00:21:44,803 THE DOMESTIC WORKER STANDARDS 744 00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:45,437 BOARD. AND I'M HERE TODAY TO 745 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:46,705 SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE 746 00:21:46,705 --> 00:21:47,873 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE 747 00:21:47,873 --> 00:21:50,275 DOMESTIC WORKER ORDINANCE. THESE 748 00:21:50,275 --> 00:21:52,878 AMENDMENTS WERE FORMULATED BASED 749 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:54,079 ON REAL CHALLENGES THAT THE 750 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,315 STANDARDS BOARD AND THE OFFICE 751 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:56,815 OF LABOR STANDARDS HAVE 752 00:21:56,815 --> 00:21:57,983 IDENTIFIED. BASED ON THE FIRST 753 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:00,452 SEVEN YEARS OF OUR EXPERIENCE 754 00:22:00,452 --> 00:22:03,488 WITH WITH THE ORDINANCE, THESE 755 00:22:03,488 --> 00:22:05,891 ARE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD BE 756 00:22:05,891 --> 00:22:06,358 ESSENTIAL TO FURTHER 757 00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:07,359 STRENGTHENING PROTECTIONS FOR 758 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,461 WORKERS, WHILE ALSO ALIGNING OUR 759 00:22:09,461 --> 00:22:10,562 ORDINANCE WITH THE NEW STATE 760 00:22:10,562 --> 00:22:13,098 STATE LAW THAT WAS PASSED. 761 00:22:13,098 --> 00:22:14,700 EMPLOYERS ON THE BOARD AND 762 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:15,334 EMPLOYERS MORE BROADLY THROUGH 763 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,768 THE HAND IN HAND NETWORK, ARE 764 00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:18,103 SUPPORTIVE OF THESE AMENDMENTS 765 00:22:18,103 --> 00:22:19,471 AND WANT TO SEE THEM PASSED. WE 766 00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:21,006 ALSO KNOW THAT SEATTLE CONTINUES 767 00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:22,207 TO BE A NATIONAL LEADER, AND 768 00:22:22,207 --> 00:22:24,142 THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE 769 00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:25,410 LOOKING TO US TO CONTINUE 770 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:27,346 INNOVATING ON THIS ISSUE. 771 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:28,647 FINALLY, I WANT TO STRESS THE 772 00:22:28,647 --> 00:22:30,782 IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING FUNDING 773 00:22:30,782 --> 00:22:32,384 FOR IMPLEMENTATION, AS SUGGESTED 774 00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,553 IN THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMO THAT 775 00:22:34,553 --> 00:22:37,022 ACCOMPANIES THE LEGISLATION. THE 776 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:37,622 WSB ASKED OLS TO PREPARE A 777 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:39,157 BUDGET OUTLINE THAT WOULD 778 00:22:39,157 --> 00:22:41,259 ADEQUATELY FUND THIS AT THE TUNE 779 00:22:41,259 --> 00:22:44,129 OF $500,000, AND WE URGE COUNCIL 780 00:22:44,129 --> 00:22:44,730 TO CONSIDER THIS. THANK YOU. 781 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:47,499 -- THANK YOU, JORDAN. NEXT UP, 782 00:22:47,499 --> 00:22:49,367 WE HAVE JAMIE FACKLER, FOLLOWED 783 00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:52,871 BY NOLAN 784 00:22:52,871 --> 00:22:55,640 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. JAMIE 785 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,078 FACKLER, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 786 00:23:00,078 --> 00:23:01,279 THREE. UNION DELEGATE FROM A 787 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:02,948 UNION TO MLK LABOR. AS A 788 00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:05,050 DELEGATE, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO 789 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,685 HEAR AND BECOME AWARE OF THE 790 00:23:06,685 --> 00:23:08,453 SURVEILLANCE PRICING BY MY 791 00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,422 SIBLINGS AT U W 3000, AND I'VE 792 00:23:10,422 --> 00:23:14,726 SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES IT IT COME 793 00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:15,994 TO QFC AND TO OTHER GROCERY 794 00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:17,863 STORES. AND IT'S ALSO COINCIDED 795 00:23:17,863 --> 00:23:19,765 WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE REDUCED 796 00:23:19,765 --> 00:23:22,567 STAFFING LEVELS. SO OVERALL, THE 797 00:23:22,567 --> 00:23:24,136 CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN 798 00:23:24,136 --> 00:23:24,770 DEGRADED BY THESE CORPORATIONS 799 00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:26,938 THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU 800 00:23:26,938 --> 00:23:27,739 KNOW, REWARDS PROGRAMS AND 801 00:23:27,739 --> 00:23:28,940 EVERYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, WHAT I 802 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:31,309 WANT TO SEE IS FAIR PRICING, 803 00:23:31,309 --> 00:23:32,110 TRANSPARENT PRICING THAT I KNOW 804 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:33,545 I'M GOING TO PAY THE SAME AS 805 00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:34,713 ANYBODY ELSE AT THE GROCERY 806 00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:36,782 STORE. AND IF THERE'S COUPONS 807 00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:38,450 ARE AVAILABLE TO ME AND I DON'T 808 00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:39,684 HAVE TO SELL MY PRIVATE DATA TO 809 00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:41,319 THIS COMPANY TO GET THAT, TO GET 810 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:42,387 THAT DISCOUNT. BUT I ALSO WANT 811 00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:43,855 TO SEE GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. I 812 00:23:43,855 --> 00:23:45,123 DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR 20 813 00:23:45,123 --> 00:23:46,057 MINUTES TO CHECK OUT OF THE 814 00:23:46,057 --> 00:23:47,492 GROCERY STORE. I DON'T WANT TO 815 00:23:47,492 --> 00:23:49,394 HAVE TO PASS THROUGH A SECURITY 816 00:23:49,394 --> 00:23:50,662 GUARD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE 817 00:23:50,662 --> 00:23:52,597 STEALING, BECAUSE WHAT THEY 818 00:23:52,597 --> 00:23:53,265 CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES BECAUSE 819 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:55,400 WE DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE FOOD 820 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,268 BENEFITS AND, AND ALSO BECAUSE 821 00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:57,435 THEY'RE JUST FRUSTRATED ABOUT 822 00:23:57,435 --> 00:23:59,204 STANDING AROUND IN LINE. SO, YOU 823 00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:01,206 KNOW, TO ME, THIS IS A REAL NO 824 00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:03,041 BRAINER. THIS IS ABOUT CUSTOMER. 825 00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:04,476 THIS IS ABOUT CONSUMER 826 00:24:04,476 --> 00:24:05,844 PROTECTIONS. AND WE ALL DESERVE 827 00:24:05,844 --> 00:24:08,180 FAIR PRICING. THANK YOU. 828 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:11,416 -- [APPLAUSE] 829 00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:12,951 -- THANK YOU JAMIE. NEXT UP WE 830 00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:19,391 HAVE NOLAN FOLLOWED BY STACEY. 831 00:24:19,391 --> 00:24:21,159 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 832 00:24:21,159 --> 00:24:22,828 MY NAME IS NOLAN TARBOX AND I 833 00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:24,796 WORK AT THE BELLINGER THRIFTWAY 834 00:24:24,796 --> 00:24:26,631 IN SHORELINE IS A GROCERY 835 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:27,666 WORKER. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF 836 00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:29,468 THE UFCW W 3000 UNION. I'M HERE 837 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,803 TODAY BECAUSE GROCERY WORKERS 838 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:33,939 SEE HOW MUCH FAMILIES STRUGGLE 839 00:24:33,939 --> 00:24:36,007 WITH THE COST OF GROCERIES EVERY 840 00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:37,142 DAY. I'VE WORKED AS A CASHIER 841 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:38,844 FOR YEARS, AND I KNOW FROM 842 00:24:38,844 --> 00:24:40,679 EXPERIENCE THAT CUSTOMERS ARE 843 00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:41,746 ALWAYS PAYING VERY CLOSE 844 00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:43,181 ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY ARE 845 00:24:43,181 --> 00:24:44,749 BUYING AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS. 846 00:24:44,749 --> 00:24:46,151 THEY NOTICE WHEN THEIR FAVORITE 847 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,153 PRODUCTS GO UP IN PRICE. THEY'RE 848 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:49,454 ALWAYS COMPARING PRICES COMING 849 00:24:49,454 --> 00:24:51,490 IN ON DISCOUNT DAYS, AND THEY'RE 850 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:53,992 USING LOYALTY CARDS, RIGHT, IN 851 00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:54,860 ORDER TO SAVE AS MUCH AS THEY 852 00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:57,095 CAN AT THE CHECKOUT. AND THAT'S 853 00:24:57,095 --> 00:24:58,997 EXACTLY WHY THIS LEGISLATION 854 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:01,433 NEEDS TO PREVENT FAKE DISCOUNTS 855 00:25:01,433 --> 00:25:03,835 FROM BECOMING A LOOPHOLE FOR 856 00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:05,604 SURVEILLANCE PRICING. THERE'S 857 00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:06,171 NOTHING WRONG WITH GROCERY 858 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:07,672 STORES OFFERING DISCOUNTS BASED 859 00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:09,641 ON LOYALTY. WE HAD THOSE FOR A 860 00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:11,509 WHILE, BUT THE PROBLEM BEGINS 861 00:25:11,509 --> 00:25:13,745 WHEN THAT DATA STARTS TO BE USED 862 00:25:13,745 --> 00:25:15,413 TO DETERMINE PRICES FOR THESE 863 00:25:15,413 --> 00:25:17,315 CUSTOMERS. SO WE'RE ASKING THAT 864 00:25:17,315 --> 00:25:18,817 WE PLEASE PASS A STRONG 865 00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:21,119 ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTS SEATTLE 866 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,790 SHOPPERS AND CLOSES THE LOYALTY 867 00:25:25,790 --> 00:25:26,124 -- [APPLAUSE] 868 00:25:26,124 --> 00:25:29,060 -- THANK YOU. NOLAN. NEXT UP WE 869 00:25:29,060 --> 00:25:30,495 HAVE STACEY. AND THEN I'M JUST 870 00:25:30,495 --> 00:25:32,998 GOING TO READ THE NEXT COUPLE OF 871 00:25:32,998 --> 00:25:33,632 NAMES THAT FOLLOWED BY STACEY. 872 00:25:33,632 --> 00:25:37,402 WE HAVE AUSTIN PRICE, AUDREY 873 00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:41,006 WONG, GOSLIN AND THEN LORENA 874 00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:41,273 SORIANO. 875 00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:42,641 -- HI, MY NAME IS STACEY 876 00:25:42,641 --> 00:25:44,743 HIGGINBOTHAM. I AM WITH CONSUMER 877 00:25:44,743 --> 00:25:45,477 REPORTS AND WE ARE HERE IN 878 00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:47,279 SUPPORT OF THE FAIR PRICING ACT 879 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:52,083 OR BILL. CONSUMERS EXPRESS DEEP 880 00:25:52,083 --> 00:25:52,717 MISGIVINGS ABOUT ALGORITHMICALLY 881 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,052 DRIVEN PRICING CHANGES WHEN IT 882 00:25:54,052 --> 00:25:55,520 BECOMES. WHEN IT COMES TO 883 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,656 ESSENTIAL TOOLS LIKE FOOD. SO WE 884 00:25:57,656 --> 00:25:59,858 DID A NATIONALLY REPRESENTATIVE 885 00:25:59,858 --> 00:26:02,360 SURVEY OF U.S. ADULTS IN 886 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,062 SEPTEMBER OF 2025, AND WE FOUND 887 00:26:04,062 --> 00:26:06,331 THAT 72% OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE USED 888 00:26:06,331 --> 00:26:07,866 INSTACART IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS 889 00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:09,367 DID NOT IN THE YEAR, DID NOT 890 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:10,735 WANT THE COMPANY TO CHARGE 891 00:26:10,735 --> 00:26:13,171 DIFFERENT USERS, DIFFERENT 892 00:26:13,171 --> 00:26:14,940 PRICES FOR ANY REASON. INSTACART 893 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:15,907 SHOPPERS WE SPOKE TO SAID THAT 894 00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,542 THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THEY WERE 895 00:26:17,542 --> 00:26:19,377 PARTICIPANTS IN THIS ACTIVE 896 00:26:19,377 --> 00:26:21,079 PRICING EXPERIMENTS, AND THEY 897 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:21,546 VIEW THE PRACTICE AS 898 00:26:21,546 --> 00:26:23,315 MANIPULATIVE AND UNFAIR. OUR 899 00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:26,518 RESEARCH INTO THE INSTACART 900 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:27,152 GROCERY STORE EXPERIMENT SHOWED 901 00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:29,154 THAT PEOPLE WERE PAYING 23% 902 00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:32,457 MORE, UP TO 23% MORE, FOR THE 903 00:26:32,457 --> 00:26:34,759 SAME GROCERIES IN THEIR CARTS. 904 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:35,994 THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, AND WE ARE 905 00:26:35,994 --> 00:26:39,898 HOPING TO SEE SEATTLE STOP THIS. 906 00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:40,198 THANK YOU. 907 00:26:40,198 --> 00:26:44,369 -- [APPLAUSE] 908 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:46,605 -- ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL HEAR 909 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,106 FROM AUSTIN, THEN AUDREY, AND 910 00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:48,873 THEN FOLLOWED BY AUDREY. WE'LL 911 00:26:48,873 --> 00:26:51,509 HAVE LORENA AUSTIN. 912 00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:52,644 -- HI, MY NAME IS AUSTIN PRICE. 913 00:26:52,644 --> 00:26:54,980 I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX, 914 00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:56,581 AND I'M JUST COMING TO VOICE MY 915 00:26:56,581 --> 00:26:58,583 SUPPORT FOR THE ORDINANCE. AS IT 916 00:26:58,583 --> 00:27:00,952 STANDS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S 917 00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:02,787 EVIDENT ENOUGH THAT PRICES ARE 918 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:04,923 RIDICULOUS AND IT'S MORE 919 00:27:04,923 --> 00:27:07,025 HORRIFYING THAN AT A TIME WHEN 920 00:27:07,025 --> 00:27:07,659 WE SEE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY 921 00:27:07,659 --> 00:27:08,293 RAMPING UP AND USING OUR DATA 922 00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:09,828 FOR ALL KINDS OF HORRIFYING 923 00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:11,896 THINGS, RIGHT? LIKE THE IDEA 924 00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:14,833 THAT, OH NO, WE CAN I DON'T KNOW 925 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:16,735 THAT WE CAN KIND OF THREAD THE 926 00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:18,470 NEEDLE ON THIS ONE WITH THIS, 927 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,638 THIS DISCOUNT LOOPHOLE SEEMS 928 00:27:20,638 --> 00:27:21,272 VERY DUBIOUS TO ME. AND IT SEEMS 929 00:27:21,272 --> 00:27:22,474 LIKE THIS IS GOING TO GET 930 00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:23,441 ABUSED. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, 931 00:27:23,441 --> 00:27:24,909 YOU GIVE THESE PEOPLE AN INCH, 932 00:27:24,909 --> 00:27:26,411 THEY'LL TAKE A MILE WITH OUR 933 00:27:26,411 --> 00:27:27,545 DATA AND OUR PRIVACY. AND IF YOU 934 00:27:27,545 --> 00:27:29,614 THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON 935 00:27:29,614 --> 00:27:31,816 OUR SIDE, I THINK HISTORY PROVES 936 00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:33,518 THAT PRETTY WRONG. SO A STRONGER 937 00:27:33,518 --> 00:27:35,053 ORDINANCE I AM ALL FOR, AND I 938 00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:36,988 APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL BRINGING 939 00:27:36,988 --> 00:27:40,992 THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU. 940 00:27:40,992 --> 00:27:43,561 -- THANK YOU AUSTIN. NEXT UP, 941 00:27:43,561 --> 00:27:45,063 WE'LL HEAR FROM AUDREY. 942 00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:47,632 -- HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS 943 00:27:47,632 --> 00:27:48,833 AUDREY. I REPRESENT 350 SEATTLE 944 00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:50,235 AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M 945 00:27:50,235 --> 00:27:51,569 HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO 946 00:27:51,569 --> 00:27:53,905 APPROVE THIS FAIR AND 947 00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:55,940 TRANSPARENT PRICING POLICY, AND 948 00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:59,377 ALSO TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO 949 00:27:59,377 --> 00:28:01,212 DISREGARD THE ASKS HERE TODAY 950 00:28:01,212 --> 00:28:03,481 AROUND A CARVE OUT FOR 951 00:28:03,481 --> 00:28:04,649 DISCOUNTS. AND THE REASON I SAY 952 00:28:04,649 --> 00:28:08,887 THAT IS, AS AN ENGINEER, HOW DO 953 00:28:08,887 --> 00:28:12,323 YOU KNOW WHETHER AI IS ACTUALLY 954 00:28:12,323 --> 00:28:14,692 DECREASING SOMEONE'S PRICES AND 955 00:28:14,692 --> 00:28:15,260 GIVING THEM DISCOUNTS? YOU 956 00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:16,061 DON'T. IT IS INHERENTLY A BLACK 957 00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:17,328 BOX. SO IF GROCERS HAVE THE 958 00:28:17,328 --> 00:28:19,130 ABILITY, IF THEY HAVE THIS 959 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:20,865 INFRASTRUCTURE TO DECREASE 960 00:28:20,865 --> 00:28:21,499 PRICES, AND JUST BECAUSE THEY 961 00:28:21,499 --> 00:28:23,234 SAY, SCOUT'S HONOR, WE'RE ONLY 962 00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,235 DOING THAT. WE DON'T KNOW THAT 963 00:28:24,235 --> 00:28:29,007 FOR SURE. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND. 964 00:28:29,007 --> 00:28:29,908 DON'T GIVE THEM AN INCH. 965 00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:31,076 THEY'LL TAKE A MILE. AS SOMEONE 966 00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:34,412 JUST SAID, AND TO REALLY FOCUS 967 00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:38,116 ON PROTECTING THE PEOPLE IN 968 00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:40,318 SEATTLE, PROTECT CONSUMERS. 969 00:28:40,318 --> 00:28:40,618 THANK YOU. 970 00:28:40,618 --> 00:28:43,288 -- [APPLAUSE] 971 00:28:43,288 --> 00:28:45,323 -- THANK YOU AUDREY. NEXT, WE'LL 972 00:28:45,323 --> 00:28:47,192 HEAR FROM LORENA AND FOLLOWED BY 973 00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:49,494 LORENA. WE'LL HEAR I BELIEVE 974 00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:53,098 THIS IS ERIC, FOLLOWED BY HANNAH 975 00:28:53,098 --> 00:28:55,400 AND THEN HARPER. 976 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,701 -- HI. TO BUILD ON WHAT THE 977 00:28:56,701 --> 00:28:58,002 AMAZON GENTLEMAN SAID AND WHAT 978 00:28:58,002 --> 00:29:00,505 DRAY JUST SAID, I WANT YOU TO 979 00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:01,473 IMAGINE THAT TWO NEIGHBORS ARE 980 00:29:01,473 --> 00:29:02,574 WALKING DOWN THE AISLE AT OUR 981 00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:03,975 LOCAL GROCERY STORE, STANDING 982 00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:05,543 SIDE BY SIDE IN FRONT OF THE 983 00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:07,178 GLUTEN FREE PASTA GROCERY STORE 984 00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:08,980 APPS, DATA BROKERS, SEARCH 985 00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:09,981 ENGINES TRACK EVERYTHING YOU BUY 986 00:29:09,981 --> 00:29:11,750 AND SEARCH FOR. THEY DON'T NEED 987 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:13,051 YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS TO KNOW 988 00:29:13,051 --> 00:29:14,018 THAT YOU'RE A DIABETIC OR HAVE 989 00:29:14,018 --> 00:29:15,787 CELIAC DISEASE. THEIR ALGORITHM 990 00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:17,188 FIGURES IT OUT. PERSON A IS 991 00:29:17,188 --> 00:29:19,157 DOING WELL ENOUGH FINANCIALLY. 992 00:29:19,157 --> 00:29:20,191 THEY'RE TRYING A NEW DIET THIS 993 00:29:20,191 --> 00:29:20,992 MONTH, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO 994 00:29:20,992 --> 00:29:22,727 BUY THIS GLUTEN FREE PASTA. THE 995 00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:24,262 STORE'S ALGORITHM KNOWS THEY 996 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:26,431 MIGHT WALK AWAY, SO THEY ENTICE 997 00:29:26,431 --> 00:29:28,500 THEM. IT DROPS THE $5 PRICE TO 998 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:29,734 $4.50 ON THE APP. STEAL OF A 999 00:29:29,734 --> 00:29:31,536 DEAL. PERSON A THINKS RIGHT NEXT 1000 00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:33,505 TO THEM. PERSON B BASED ON THEIR 1001 00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:35,073 BUDGET, THEY CAN REALLY ONLY 1002 00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:37,742 AFFORD THE $3 FOR THAT BOX, BUT 1003 00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:39,177 THEIR TODDLER HAS SEVERE CELIAC 1004 00:29:39,177 --> 00:29:40,945 DISEASE AND GETS VIOLENTLY SICK 1005 00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:42,747 ON NORMAL WHEAT. THEY HAVE TO 1006 00:29:42,747 --> 00:29:44,449 BUY IT. THE ALGORITHM KNOWS 1007 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:45,016 THEIR SEARCH HISTORY, KNOWS 1008 00:29:45,016 --> 00:29:45,917 IT'S A MEDICAL NECESSITY, AND 1009 00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:47,919 JACKS THE PRICE UP TO $5.50. 1010 00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:50,288 THEY STILL BUY IT BECAUSE THEY 1011 00:29:50,288 --> 00:29:52,323 HAVE NO CHOICE BUT THAT EXTRA 1012 00:29:52,323 --> 00:29:53,925 $2.50 COMES DIRECTLY OUT OF 1013 00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:55,160 THEIR BUDGET FOR ELECTRICITY, 1014 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,361 MEDICATION OR SCHOOL SUPPLIES. 1015 00:29:56,361 --> 00:29:57,929 PERSON A GETS A DISCOUNT BECAUSE 1016 00:29:57,929 --> 00:29:59,531 THEY HAVE THE OPTIONS. PERSON B 1017 00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:00,632 GETS DRAINED FINANCIALLY BECAUSE 1018 00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:01,933 THEIR CHILD HAS A MEDICAL 1019 00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:03,434 CONDITION THAT'S NOT SUPPLY AND 1020 00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:04,068 DEMAND. THAT'S DYNAMIC PRICE 1021 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:05,336 GOUGING ON HUMAN HEALTH. I'M 1022 00:30:05,336 --> 00:30:06,838 ASKING THAT YOU BUILD IN 1023 00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:10,675 GUARDRAILS AND HOLD 1024 00:30:10,675 --> 00:30:11,042 RESPONSIBILITY. 1025 00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:18,283 -- [APPLAUSE] 1026 00:30:18,283 --> 00:30:20,552 -- THANK YOU. NEXT UP, I BELIEVE 1027 00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:21,319 I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCING 1028 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:26,591 YOUR NAME. I'M SEEING IRIS 1029 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:27,792 ALLEN. HI THERE. 1030 00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:29,093 -- MY NAME IS. I'M GOING TO 1031 00:30:29,093 --> 00:30:31,095 ADJUST THAT UP A BIT. MY NAME IS 1032 00:30:31,095 --> 00:30:33,498 IRIS ALLMAN. I'M HERE IN 1033 00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:35,400 SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE. I'M 1034 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,835 19. I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT. I 1035 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:38,536 HAVE TWO YEARS LEFT, AND 1036 00:30:38,536 --> 00:30:40,305 SOMETIMES IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE 1037 00:30:40,305 --> 00:30:42,173 A TICKING COUNTDOWN BECAUSE I 1038 00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:42,974 DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO 1039 00:30:42,974 --> 00:30:44,442 HAPPEN WITH MY DATA. I DON'T 1040 00:30:44,442 --> 00:30:45,643 KNOW WHAT THE WORLD'S GOING TO 1041 00:30:45,643 --> 00:30:47,078 LOOK LIKE WHEN I COME OUT. AND 1042 00:30:47,078 --> 00:30:48,479 AT THE MOMENT, ALL THE TRENDS 1043 00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:50,281 ARE TELLING ME THAT I'M GOING TO 1044 00:30:50,281 --> 00:30:51,749 BE GOUGED. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING 1045 00:30:51,749 --> 00:30:54,152 TO HAVE MY PRICES GO UP. OR, YOU 1046 00:30:54,152 --> 00:30:55,486 KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING, OH, 1047 00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:56,754 YOU'LL GET BENEFITS, YOU'LL GET 1048 00:30:56,754 --> 00:30:57,455 DISCOUNTS. I DON'T WANT THOSE. 1049 00:30:57,455 --> 00:30:59,157 IF IT'S AT THE EXPENSE OF 1050 00:30:59,157 --> 00:31:00,592 SOMEONE ELSE IN MY COMMUNITY 1051 00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:01,960 WHO'S GOING TO BE CHARGED MORE. 1052 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,029 AND THERE'S JUST KIND OF LIKE 1053 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:06,431 AN IMPENDING EXISTENTIAL LOOM. 1054 00:31:06,431 --> 00:31:08,132 SO I'M SO GRATEFUL TO SEE THE 1055 00:31:08,132 --> 00:31:09,801 SUPPORT FOR THE ORDINANCE, TO 1056 00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:12,804 SEE EVERYONE HERE TODAY. AND 1057 00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:13,104 THANK YOU. 1058 00:31:13,104 --> 00:31:17,175 -- [APPLAUSE] 1059 00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:18,476 -- THANK YOU. IRIS. NEXT, WE'LL 1060 00:31:18,476 --> 00:31:19,544 HEAR FROM HANNAH SIFF, FOLLOWED 1061 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:22,347 BY HARPER NALLEY. 1062 00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:23,815 -- HI, I'M HANNAH FROM PIONEER 1063 00:31:23,815 --> 00:31:24,716 SQUARE. SPECIFICALLY JACKSON 1064 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:27,252 STREET. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE 1065 00:31:27,252 --> 00:31:28,987 HOMELESS SITUATION ON JACKSON 1066 00:31:28,987 --> 00:31:30,521 AND 12th THAT TWO OTHER PEOPLE 1067 00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:32,123 HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT IN THE 1068 00:31:32,123 --> 00:31:32,790 PAST TWO WEEKS, WHICH REQUIRES 1069 00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:34,025 ALL MANNER OF GOVERNMENT 1070 00:31:34,025 --> 00:31:35,326 RESOURCES, AND THAT IS A SYMPTOM 1071 00:31:35,326 --> 00:31:38,429 OF BROADER COPING ISSUES IN OUR 1072 00:31:38,429 --> 00:31:40,965 GLOBAL CIVILIZATION. JACKSON AND 1073 00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:41,666 12th IS AN INTERSECTION EXACTLY 1074 00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:43,234 A DOZEN BLOCKS FROM HERE IN 1075 00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:43,835 LITTLE SAIGON. I DRIVE BY IT 1076 00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:45,303 WITH MY SON. WHEN I TAKE HIM TO 1077 00:31:45,303 --> 00:31:46,571 CLASSES, AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE 1078 00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:47,505 MAKE IT A LANDMARK BECAUSE 1079 00:31:47,505 --> 00:31:49,207 BESIDES THEM BEING THERE, IT'S 1080 00:31:49,207 --> 00:31:51,342 AN IN-BETWEEN ZONE WITH SMALL 1081 00:31:51,342 --> 00:31:52,810 BUSINESSES ON THREE CORNERS AND 1082 00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:54,345 TWO ADJACENT EMPTY LOTS THAT 1083 00:31:54,345 --> 00:31:57,148 HAVE SAT EMPTY FOR OVER A YEAR. 1084 00:31:57,148 --> 00:31:58,750 ALTHOUGH NOBODY MENTIONS THEM. 1085 00:31:58,750 --> 00:31:59,817 THE EMPTY LOTS IS WHAT MAKES IT 1086 00:31:59,817 --> 00:32:01,352 RIPE, AND THE STRAINS OUR 1087 00:32:01,352 --> 00:32:03,354 RESOURCES IN SO MANY WAYS. 1088 00:32:03,354 --> 00:32:05,223 MEANWHILE, WE HAVE OLD GUYS 1089 00:32:05,223 --> 00:32:06,124 ASKING THAT THEIR HOMES IN 1090 00:32:06,124 --> 00:32:08,359 AURORA DON'T GET TAKEN BY 1091 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:08,993 GOVERNMENT FOR EMINENT DOMAIN, 1092 00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:10,528 FOR CONSTRUCTION. HOMES ARE A 1093 00:32:10,528 --> 00:32:13,131 HOT COMMODITY NORTH TO SOUTH IN 1094 00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:14,032 SEATTLE. SO IT'S NEGLECTFULLY 1095 00:32:14,032 --> 00:32:15,833 WASTEFUL TO OUR SOCIETY AT LARGE 1096 00:32:15,833 --> 00:32:17,402 TO LEAVE IT UNDEVELOPED AS IT 1097 00:32:17,402 --> 00:32:17,969 NEGATIVELY SNOWBALLS TO ALL 1098 00:32:17,969 --> 00:32:19,170 THESE ISSUES AND MORE SOME WORSE 1099 00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:22,140 TO IMAGINE. I IMPLORE YOU TO 1100 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:22,907 DEVELOP THE EMPTY LOTS ON 1101 00:32:22,907 --> 00:32:23,775 JACKSON AND 12th, WHATEVER MEANS 1102 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,476 NECESSARY. WE HAVE EVERYTHING 1103 00:32:25,476 --> 00:32:26,511 BEFORE US AND MAKING BETTER USE 1104 00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:27,679 WILL EASE A LOT OF ISSUES WE SEE 1105 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:31,015 BEFORE US TODAY. PLEASE INVEST 1106 00:32:31,015 --> 00:32:31,182 IN. 1107 00:32:31,182 --> 00:32:34,886 -- PEACE AND SAFETY HERE. 1108 00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:36,554 -- ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT, 1109 00:32:36,554 --> 00:32:37,955 WE'LL HEAR FROM HARPER, 1110 00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:41,125 FOLLOWED BY HARPER. WE'LL HEAR 1111 00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:43,461 FROM GABRIEL PRALL. THEN DANIEL 1112 00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:47,732 ALVARADO, THEN PAUL WONG. 1113 00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:48,132 GOSSELIN, HARPER. 1114 00:32:48,132 --> 00:32:48,800 -- HI, I'M HARPER GNARLY FROM 1115 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,600 DISTRICT THREE, AND I'M HERE TO 1116 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,704 SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PRICE 1117 00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:57,275 GOUGING AMENDMENT MEASURE. TRUMP 1118 00:32:57,275 --> 00:33:00,178 ROOFING SEATTLE IS ISN'T 1119 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:00,812 LIMITED TO PROTECTING SATELLITES 1120 00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:01,479 FROM THE DIRECT ACTION FROM THE 1121 00:33:01,479 --> 00:33:02,080 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT MEANS 1122 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,414 SEATTLE OR IT MEANS PROTECTING 1123 00:33:03,414 --> 00:33:05,083 SEATTLEITES FROM THE INACTIONS 1124 00:33:05,083 --> 00:33:06,250 OF OUR GOVERNMENT. IT MEANS 1125 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:06,884 PROTECTING SEATTLEITES FROM THE 1126 00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:10,755 VERY SAME KINDS OF ATTACKS ON 1127 00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,857 OUR CONSTITUENTS OR ON YOUR 1128 00:33:12,857 --> 00:33:13,458 CONSTITUENTS COMMITTED BY THE 1129 00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:16,627 BILLIONAIRES. THE IDEA OF USING 1130 00:33:16,627 --> 00:33:18,262 THE UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNTS OF 1131 00:33:18,262 --> 00:33:19,330 PERSONAL DATA THESE COMPANIES 1132 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,132 HAVE ACCESS TO, TO SCRAPE EVERY 1133 00:33:21,132 --> 00:33:22,433 LAST DOLLAR THAT WE CAN OR THAT 1134 00:33:22,433 --> 00:33:23,901 THEY CAN OUT OF OUR THINNING 1135 00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:25,303 BANK ACCOUNTS IS NOTHING SHORT 1136 00:33:25,303 --> 00:33:28,406 OF OBSCENE. IT SHOULD NOT, OR I 1137 00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:30,074 SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WATCH WHAT I 1138 00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:31,509 SAY IN MY EMAILS AND TEXTS SO 1139 00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:33,444 THAT A BANANA DOESN'T COST $5 1140 00:33:33,444 --> 00:33:34,112 WHEN I GO TO THE STORE, BECAUSE 1141 00:33:34,112 --> 00:33:35,713 THEY FIGURED OUT THAT'S WHAT I 1142 00:33:35,713 --> 00:33:39,550 WILL PAY. AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS 1143 00:33:39,550 --> 00:33:41,552 IS HOW THAT WILL BE USED. THE 1144 00:33:41,552 --> 00:33:42,920 IDEA THAT THIS DATA WILL ONLY BE 1145 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,622 USED TO GRANT DISCOUNTS THE 1146 00:33:44,622 --> 00:33:46,090 GOODNESS OF THEIR OWN HEARTS IS 1147 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:47,625 NOTHING SHORT OF A LIE, AND THE 1148 00:33:47,625 --> 00:33:49,160 FACT THAT THEY ARE SENDING 1149 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,595 REPRESENTATIVES TO ASK YOU TO, 1150 00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:52,130 TO USE THIS DATA OR TO ALLOW 1151 00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:53,765 THEM TO USE THIS DATA TO LOWER 1152 00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,000 PRICES, SHOULD BE TREATED WITH 1153 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,167 A. 1154 00:33:56,167 --> 00:33:58,536 -- THANK YOU 1155 00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:01,038 -- [APPLAUSE] 1156 00:34:01,038 --> 00:34:02,206 -- THANK YOU HARPER. NEXT, WE'LL 1157 00:34:02,206 --> 00:34:03,641 HEAR FROM DUSTIN. AND AGAIN, 1158 00:34:03,641 --> 00:34:06,010 PARDON ME, GABRIEL WILL BE 1159 00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:07,045 HEARING FROM GABRIEL, FOLLOWED 1160 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:08,146 BY GABRIEL. WE'LL HEAR FROM 1161 00:34:08,146 --> 00:34:12,617 DANIELLE, THEN PAUL, THEN 1162 00:34:12,617 --> 00:34:15,353 DUSTIN. GABRIEL. 1163 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:17,355 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 1164 00:34:17,355 --> 00:34:18,556 MY NAME IS GABRIEL. I'M THE 1165 00:34:18,556 --> 00:34:19,390 PRESIDENT OF THE SEATTLE CHAPTER 1166 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,259 OF THE AYE PHILIP RANDOLPH 1167 00:34:21,259 --> 00:34:23,594 INSTITUTE. I'M PAST PRESIDENT 1168 00:34:23,594 --> 00:34:25,029 OF LOCAL 52. I'M HERE. FIRST OF 1169 00:34:25,029 --> 00:34:29,200 ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO 1170 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,771 THE US. CW WORKERS WHO SENT THE 1171 00:34:33,771 --> 00:34:35,506 ALARM OUT SO OUR COMMUNITY COULD 1172 00:34:35,506 --> 00:34:37,175 KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE 1173 00:34:37,175 --> 00:34:38,376 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL 1174 00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:41,946 SHOULD BE VERY, VERY CONSCIOUS 1175 00:34:41,946 --> 00:34:42,880 OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 1176 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,249 YOU KNOW, THIS ADMINISTRATION 1177 00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:49,220 HAS CHANGED A WHOLE LOT. I KNOW 1178 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:49,821 WE GOT CORPORATION PROFITING 1179 00:34:49,821 --> 00:34:51,322 FROM THIS AND WE NEED TO STOP 1180 00:34:51,322 --> 00:34:53,257 THAT. I WANT TO ALSO THANK ALL 1181 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:54,992 OF YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS THAT ARE 1182 00:34:54,992 --> 00:34:57,195 SUPPORTING US IN THIS FIGHT, 1183 00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,029 BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT 1184 00:34:58,029 --> 00:34:59,297 THING. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE THE 1185 00:34:59,297 --> 00:35:02,633 EXAMPLE TO THE NATION IN THIS 1186 00:35:02,633 --> 00:35:04,569 CHANGE AND A WIN FOR OUR WORKERS 1187 00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:06,237 AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE 1188 00:35:06,237 --> 00:35:07,238 APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 1189 00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:08,806 BUT THIS IS A FIGHT THAT WE NEED 1190 00:35:08,806 --> 00:35:10,041 YOUR SUPPORT. YOU ARE THE FRONT 1191 00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:11,442 LINE TO MAKE THAT DECISION, TO 1192 00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:12,877 MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WIN. THANK 1193 00:35:12,877 --> 00:35:15,213 YOU 1194 00:35:15,213 --> 00:35:19,784 -- [APPLAUSE] 1195 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:20,985 -- THANK YOU. GABRIEL. NEXT, 1196 00:35:20,985 --> 00:35:22,153 WE'LL HEAR FROM DANIELLE, 1197 00:35:22,153 --> 00:35:23,354 FOLLOWED BY DANIELLE. WE'LL HEAR 1198 00:35:23,354 --> 00:35:24,989 FROM PAUL. 1199 00:35:24,989 --> 00:35:25,623 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 1200 00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:26,290 MY NAME IS DANIELLE ALVARADO. 1201 00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:27,925 I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF 1202 00:35:27,925 --> 00:35:32,196 WORKING WASHINGTON. HERE TO SHOW 1203 00:35:32,196 --> 00:35:32,763 OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE 1204 00:35:32,763 --> 00:35:34,599 TRANSPARENT PRICING POLICY 1205 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:35,600 BEFORE YOU. WE ORGANIZE WORKERS, 1206 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,201 LOW WAGE WORKERS, GIG WORKERS, 1207 00:35:37,201 --> 00:35:38,536 OTHER WORKERS WORKING PAYCHECK 1208 00:35:38,536 --> 00:35:41,172 TO PAYCHECK. FOR MANY OF THEM, 1209 00:35:41,172 --> 00:35:43,474 WE ALREADY ARE SEEING THE IMPACT 1210 00:35:43,474 --> 00:35:46,444 OF SURVEILLANCE AND TECHNOLOGY 1211 00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:47,011 CHANGING THEIR WORKPLACES. 1212 00:35:47,011 --> 00:35:47,945 THEY'RE FACING SYSTEMS THAT ARE 1213 00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:49,380 USING DATA AND ALGORITHMS TO 1214 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:50,648 CHANGE THEIR PAY, THEIR 1215 00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,651 SCHEDULES, THEIR ACCESS TO WORK. 1216 00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:55,920 AND WE DON'T WANT CONSUMERS 1217 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,554 EXPERIENCING THOSE SAME IMPACTS 1218 00:35:56,554 --> 00:35:57,255 WHEN THEY'RE AT THE GROCERY 1219 00:35:57,255 --> 00:35:58,089 STORE, FIGURING OUT HOW MUCH 1220 00:35:58,089 --> 00:35:59,690 THEY CAN SPEND TO SUPPORT THEIR 1221 00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:02,360 FAMILIES, SURVEILLANCE PRICING 1222 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,794 GIVES CORPORATIONS THE POWER TO 1223 00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:06,197 USE PERSONAL INFORMATION, 1224 00:36:06,197 --> 00:36:06,764 SHOPPING HISTORY, LOCATION 1225 00:36:06,764 --> 00:36:08,933 PREDICTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE'S 1226 00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:09,567 BEHAVIOR TO DETERMINE THE PRICES 1227 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:11,669 THAT THEY RECEIVE. AND WHEN WE 1228 00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:13,337 TALK ABOUT DISCOUNTS. DISCOUNTS 1229 00:36:13,337 --> 00:36:15,172 CAN ALSO BE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1230 00:36:15,172 --> 00:36:16,374 PERSONALIZED PRICES ONE WAY OR 1231 00:36:16,374 --> 00:36:18,242 ANOTHER. WHEN. WHEN WE HAVE THE 1232 00:36:18,242 --> 00:36:19,844 ABILITY TO SAY THAT THERE'S 1233 00:36:19,844 --> 00:36:21,679 INFORMATION THAT DICTATES HOW 1234 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:22,313 MUCH SOMEBODY GETS CHARGED. AT 1235 00:36:22,313 --> 00:36:23,814 THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S 1236 00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:25,349 CREATING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR 1237 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:26,517 SYSTEMS TO EXTRACT MONEY FROM 1238 00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:27,952 THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO REALLY 1239 00:36:27,952 --> 00:36:29,754 CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE IT. WE 1240 00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:30,988 REALLY URGE YOU TO PASS THIS 1241 00:36:30,988 --> 00:36:32,023 POLICY, LIKE OTHERS SAID, TO 1242 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:36,027 CONTINUE SEATTLE'S LEADERSHIP 1243 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:36,260 NATION. 1244 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:40,898 -- [APPLAUSE] 1245 00:36:40,898 --> 00:36:43,301 -- THANK YOU. DANIELLE. ALL 1246 00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:45,369 RIGHT. NEXT UP, WE'LL HEAR FROM 1247 00:36:45,369 --> 00:36:46,804 PAUL, FOLLOWED BY DUSTIN LAMBRO. 1248 00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:49,440 AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING TO OUR 1249 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,742 VIRTUAL SPEAKERS 1250 00:36:51,742 --> 00:36:54,779 -- HI. DID YOU KNOW THAT WALMART 1251 00:36:54,779 --> 00:36:57,548 PATENTED A CART THAT CAN MEASURE 1252 00:36:57,548 --> 00:36:59,617 YOUR HEAD, YOUR HEART RATE AND 1253 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:02,219 OTHER DATA? THE COMPANIES ARE 1254 00:37:02,219 --> 00:37:03,287 DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO 1255 00:37:03,287 --> 00:37:04,789 TAKE THE UP TO THE LAST PENNY 1256 00:37:04,789 --> 00:37:06,991 THEY HAVE, AND WE KNOW THAT 1257 00:37:06,991 --> 00:37:08,726 SOMEBODY HERE SAID, OH, BUT 1258 00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:09,360 THERE'S NO PROOF THAT DYNAMIC 1259 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,129 PRICING IS USED IN SEATTLE. SO 1260 00:37:12,129 --> 00:37:13,464 WHAT? WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT FOR 1261 00:37:13,464 --> 00:37:15,733 IT TO BE THERE TO AFTER THAT 1262 00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:16,767 SAYS, OH, NO, WE SHOULD NOT DO 1263 00:37:16,767 --> 00:37:19,737 THAT. OH, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO 1264 00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:20,671 ACT WHEN IT COMES TO SEATTLE, IF 1265 00:37:20,671 --> 00:37:23,007 IT'S NOT ALREADY THERE. 1266 00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:24,275 SOMEBODY SAID, OH, BUT THE 1267 00:37:24,275 --> 00:37:26,811 ABILITY TO DO DISCOUNTS COME ON. 1268 00:37:26,811 --> 00:37:29,814 DISCOUNTS IS ALREADY COVERED IN 1269 00:37:29,814 --> 00:37:31,882 THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. ALL THE 1270 00:37:31,882 --> 00:37:36,654 COMMON WAY TO DO DISCOUNTS ARE 1271 00:37:36,654 --> 00:37:38,289 COVERED. THAT'S THIS BILL IS 1272 00:37:38,289 --> 00:37:39,223 GOOD. ALSO, BY THE WAY, 1273 00:37:39,223 --> 00:37:41,225 DISCOUNTS ARE COMMUNICATED TO 1274 00:37:41,225 --> 00:37:42,660 THE CUSTOMER. THEY ARE OPTIONAL 1275 00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:44,262 SO THEY CAN STILL USE THE BASE 1276 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,697 PRICE. THERE'S NO LIKE, OH LET 1277 00:37:46,697 --> 00:37:47,898 US DO DISCOUNT. LIKE THAT IS NOT 1278 00:37:47,898 --> 00:37:49,066 ALREADY COVERED. WE HAVE TO PASS 1279 00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:52,703 THIS BILL. THANK YOU. 1280 00:37:52,703 --> 00:37:57,241 -- [APPLAUSE] 1281 00:37:57,241 --> 00:37:57,775 -- AND OUR LAST IN-PERSON 1282 00:37:57,775 --> 00:37:58,976 SPEAKER IS DUSTIN LAMBRO. AND 1283 00:37:58,976 --> 00:38:00,211 THEN WE'LL GO TO OUR REMOTE 1284 00:38:00,211 --> 00:38:00,478 SPEAKERS. 1285 00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:02,280 -- OH, GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, 1286 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,247 MADAM CHAIR. COUNCILMEMBERS. MY 1287 00:38:03,247 --> 00:38:06,617 NAME IS DUSTIN LAMBRO HERE TODAY 1288 00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:07,718 ON BEHALF OF RCW 3000. FIRST OF 1289 00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:09,253 ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE 1290 00:38:09,253 --> 00:38:11,656 MAYOR'S TEAM FOR THEIR 1291 00:38:11,656 --> 00:38:12,289 INCREDIBLE WORK AND LEADERSHIP 1292 00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:15,092 IN PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT WILL BE 1293 00:38:15,092 --> 00:38:15,693 THE STRONGEST ORDINANCE EVER 1294 00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:17,461 PASSED IN THIS COUNTRY AROUND 1295 00:38:17,461 --> 00:38:19,330 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING, THE 1296 00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:21,165 GROCERY INDUSTRY TOLD YOU TODAY. 1297 00:38:21,165 --> 00:38:23,668 AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO 1298 00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:24,168 SAY THAT THIS ORDINANCE 1299 00:38:24,168 --> 00:38:25,603 THREATENS DISCOUNTS, LOYALTY 1300 00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:27,538 PROGRAMS AND THE ABILITY TO 1301 00:38:27,538 --> 00:38:30,408 REWARD CUSTOMERS. THAT IS NOT 1302 00:38:30,408 --> 00:38:32,743 TRUE. NOTHING IN A STRONG 1303 00:38:32,743 --> 00:38:35,012 ORDINANCE HAS TO PREVENT A 1304 00:38:35,012 --> 00:38:36,614 GROCER FROM OFFERING A SALE, 1305 00:38:36,614 --> 00:38:38,916 ISSUING A DISCOUNT, GIVING 1306 00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:41,485 EVERYBODY THE SAME DISCOUNT. THE 1307 00:38:41,485 --> 00:38:42,920 REAL ISSUE IS WHETHER SEATTLE 1308 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,423 SHOULD ALLOW GROCERS TO USE WHAT 1309 00:38:45,423 --> 00:38:48,225 THEY KNOW ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL 1310 00:38:48,225 --> 00:38:48,859 CUSTOMER TO DETERMINE THE PRICE 1311 00:38:48,859 --> 00:38:53,030 OR DISCOUNT THAT THAT PERSON 1312 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:54,932 RECEIVES. INDUSTRY MAY CALL IT A 1313 00:38:54,932 --> 00:38:59,303 CUTE NAME, LIKE PERSONALIZATION, 1314 00:38:59,303 --> 00:38:59,937 BUT A PERSONALIZED DISCOUNT IS 1315 00:38:59,937 --> 00:39:02,506 STILL A PERSONALIZED PRICE. IF 1316 00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:03,274 THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING 1317 00:39:03,274 --> 00:39:04,909 I'M GOING TO SAY IF THIS 1318 00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:07,111 COUNCIL BROADLY EXEMPTS LOYALTY 1319 00:39:07,111 --> 00:39:09,513 PROGRAMS, THEN THE EXCEPTION 1320 00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:11,549 WILL SWALLOW THE RULE. LET'S 1321 00:39:11,549 --> 00:39:12,650 PASS A STRONG ORDINANCE THAT 1322 00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:13,250 MAKES SURE WE'RE PROTECTING 1323 00:39:13,250 --> 00:39:14,418 CONSUMERS AND WORKERS IN THIS 1324 00:39:14,418 --> 00:39:17,288 CITY. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR 1325 00:39:17,288 --> 00:39:17,588 LEADERSHIP. 1326 00:39:17,588 --> 00:39:17,922 -- [APPLAUSE] 1327 00:39:17,922 --> 00:39:18,255 -- THANK YOU. 1328 00:39:18,255 --> 00:39:18,589 -- [APPLAUSE] 1329 00:39:18,589 --> 00:39:20,925 -- THANK YOU. 1330 00:39:20,925 --> 00:39:23,994 -- [APPLAUSE] 1331 00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:25,029 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL 1332 00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:30,034 NOW BE MOVING TO OUR ONLINE 1333 00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:30,301 SPEAKERS. 1334 00:39:30,301 --> 00:39:32,870 -- THE FIRST SPEAKER IS TAMMY 1335 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:35,039 HETRICK. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX. 1336 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,674 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU 1337 00:39:36,674 --> 00:39:44,482 HAVE BEEN UNMUTED 1338 00:39:44,715 --> 00:39:54,225 -- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 1339 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:55,626 TAMMY HETRICK, AND I'M THE 1340 00:39:55,626 --> 00:39:57,828 PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE 1341 00:39:57,828 --> 00:39:58,362 WASHINGTON FOOD INDUSTRY 1342 00:39:58,362 --> 00:40:00,598 ASSOCIATION WFP REPRESENTS 1343 00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:02,233 INDEPENDENT GROCERS, CONVENIENCE 1344 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:03,667 STORES, WHOLESALERS AND 1345 00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:05,436 SUPPLIERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 1346 00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:07,104 FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO 1347 00:40:07,104 --> 00:40:07,738 CLARIFY THAT INDEPENDENT GROCERS 1348 00:40:07,738 --> 00:40:10,608 DO NOT ENGAGE IN ALGORITHMIC 1349 00:40:10,608 --> 00:40:11,842 PRICE DISCRIMINATION. OVER THE 1350 00:40:11,842 --> 00:40:13,811 PAST TWO MONTHS, WFP HAS MET 1351 00:40:13,811 --> 00:40:16,414 REGULARLY WITH THE MAYOR'S 1352 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,282 OFFICE AND COUNCILMEMBER RINCK 1353 00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:21,619 TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS ABOUT 1354 00:40:21,619 --> 00:40:22,253 POTENTIAL NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES 1355 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:25,055 ON INDEPENDENT GROCERS. WE'RE 1356 00:40:25,055 --> 00:40:25,689 VERY PLEASED THAT THE ORDINANCE 1357 00:40:25,689 --> 00:40:26,991 UNDER CONSIDERATION TODAY DOES 1358 00:40:26,991 --> 00:40:28,859 NOT IMPACT SEATTLE'S INDEPENDENT 1359 00:40:28,859 --> 00:40:30,394 GROCERY STORES. WE SINCERELY 1360 00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:33,364 APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 1361 00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:33,931 AND COUNCILMEMBER RINCK FOR 1362 00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:35,399 THEIR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN, 1363 00:40:35,399 --> 00:40:37,067 ENGAGE WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND 1364 00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:42,273 ADDRESS THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES 1365 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:42,940 IMPACTING SEATTLE'S INDEPENDENT 1366 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:47,478 GROCERS. THIS EXEMPTION IS 1367 00:40:47,478 --> 00:40:48,045 CRITICAL TO PROTECTING THE 1368 00:40:48,045 --> 00:40:49,780 SMALL, LOCALLY OWNED GROCERY 1369 00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:51,982 STORES THAT SERVICE CORNERSTONES 1370 00:40:51,982 --> 00:40:54,552 OF SEATTLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS. 1371 00:40:54,552 --> 00:40:59,123 THANK YOU. 1372 00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:00,691 -- THE NEXT, EXCUSE ME, THE NEXT 1373 00:41:00,691 --> 00:41:02,927 ONLINE SPEAKER IS KATE RUBEN. 1374 00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:03,561 PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX WHEN YOU 1375 00:41:03,561 --> 00:41:06,230 HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE BEEN 1376 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:11,068 UNMUTED. 1377 00:41:11,068 --> 00:41:13,337 -- MY NAME IS KATE RUBEN, AND 1378 00:41:13,337 --> 00:41:15,239 I'M A RENTER IN DISTRICT TWO. 1379 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,208 ON BEHALF OF SEATTLE AND THE 1380 00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:18,476 SEATTLE RENTERS COMMISSION, WE 1381 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:19,777 ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE 1382 00:41:19,777 --> 00:41:21,612 FAIR PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 1383 00:41:21,612 --> 00:41:23,814 ORDINANCE. OUR UNION ANCESTORS 1384 00:41:23,814 --> 00:41:26,283 FOUGHT FOR A 40 HOUR WORK WEEK, 1385 00:41:26,283 --> 00:41:27,451 WEEKENDS AND OVERTIME SO WORKERS 1386 00:41:27,451 --> 00:41:29,253 COULD HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF 1387 00:41:29,253 --> 00:41:30,487 WORK. TODAY, WAGES AREN'T 1388 00:41:30,487 --> 00:41:31,689 KEEPING UP WITH THE COST OF 1389 00:41:31,689 --> 00:41:32,923 LIVING. PEOPLE ARE WORKING 2 OR 1390 00:41:32,923 --> 00:41:34,658 3 JOBS AND STILL BARELY KEEPING 1391 00:41:34,658 --> 00:41:36,760 THEIR HEADS ABOVE WATER. 1392 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,062 CORPORATIONS KNOW OUR PURCHASING 1393 00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:40,064 HABITS, OUR HEALTH AND FAMILY 1394 00:41:40,064 --> 00:41:42,299 STRUCTURE, OUR WORK HOURS, WHAT 1395 00:41:42,299 --> 00:41:43,400 RESOURCES WE HAVE AND WHAT WE 1396 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,935 CAN'T GO WITHOUT. THEY USE THAT 1397 00:41:44,935 --> 00:41:48,305 KNOWLEDGE TO EXTRACT AS MUCH AS 1398 00:41:48,305 --> 00:41:48,973 POSSIBLE. RAISE SHOULDN'T TELL 1399 00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:51,208 AN ALGORITHM YOU CAN BE CHARGED 1400 00:41:51,208 --> 00:41:51,709 MORE. WORKING OVERTIME 1401 00:41:51,709 --> 00:41:53,777 SHOULDN'T BE ANOTHER 1402 00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:54,845 OPPORTUNITY FOR CORPORATIONS TO 1403 00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:56,080 TAKE WHAT YOU EARNED. AND DON'T 1404 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,816 BE FOOLED BY CLAIMS THAT 1405 00:41:58,816 --> 00:41:59,383 PERSONALIZED PRICING LOWERS 1406 00:41:59,383 --> 00:42:00,985 PRICES. A LOWER PRICE ISN'T A 1407 00:42:00,985 --> 00:42:02,720 BARGAIN WHEN IT'S CALCULATED TO 1408 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,755 BE THE MOST THAT THAT PARTICULAR 1409 00:42:04,755 --> 00:42:08,626 PERSON CAN AFFORD TO PAY. PLEASE 1410 00:42:08,626 --> 00:42:10,060 SUPPORT THIS BILL AND PASS IT AS 1411 00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:17,234 SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU 1412 00:42:17,234 --> 00:42:18,769 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL 1413 00:42:18,769 --> 00:42:20,104 SOTELO. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1414 00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:23,140 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1415 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:31,115 BEEN UNMUTED. 1416 00:42:31,248 --> 00:42:41,725 MICHAEL, I'M NOT SEEING YOU 1417 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,595 ONLINE, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO 1418 00:42:44,595 --> 00:42:46,030 THE NEXT SPEAKER AND SEE IF WE 1419 00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:48,933 CAN GET THAT FIGURED OUT. SO THE 1420 00:42:48,933 --> 00:42:50,067 NEXT ONLINE SPEAKER WILL BE 1421 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:52,269 ROBERT SINGLETON. PLEASE PRESS 1422 00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:52,903 STAR SIX WHEN YOU HEAR THE 1423 00:42:52,903 --> 00:43:03,447 PROMPT. YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED. 1424 00:43:04,148 --> 00:43:11,922 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR MEMBERS 1425 00:43:11,922 --> 00:43:12,756 OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS 1426 00:43:12,756 --> 00:43:13,891 ROBERT SINGLETON. I'M WITH 1427 00:43:13,891 --> 00:43:14,758 CHAMBER OF PROGRESS, A TECH 1428 00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:16,860 INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION THAT 1429 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:17,494 SUPPORTS INCLUSIVE INNOVATION. 1430 00:43:17,494 --> 00:43:18,195 I'M CALLING TODAY TO 1431 00:43:18,195 --> 00:43:19,196 RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COMMITTEE 1432 00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:21,365 NOT TO ADVANCE THE DRAFT FAIR 1433 00:43:21,365 --> 00:43:22,066 PRICING TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE 1434 00:43:22,066 --> 00:43:23,500 AS WRITTEN. WE SUPPORT THE DRAFT 1435 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:24,902 STATED GOALS OF PROTECTING 1436 00:43:24,902 --> 00:43:25,869 CONSUMERS FROM HIDDEN DATA 1437 00:43:25,869 --> 00:43:27,204 DRIVEN PRICE INCREASES. THE 1438 00:43:27,204 --> 00:43:29,206 DRAFT DOES NOT STOP AT 1439 00:43:29,206 --> 00:43:30,874 INDIVIDUALIZED MARKUPS. IT ALSO 1440 00:43:30,874 --> 00:43:31,442 RESTRICTS EVERYDAY COUPONS, 1441 00:43:31,442 --> 00:43:32,643 LOYALTY PROGRAMS AND 1442 00:43:32,643 --> 00:43:33,944 PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS THAT HELP 1443 00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:35,379 SEATTLE FAMILIES SAVE. THE 1444 00:43:35,379 --> 00:43:36,547 RESULT IS A 20 PAGE PROPOSAL 1445 00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:37,548 AIMED AT SECRET PRICE HIKES THAT 1446 00:43:37,548 --> 00:43:38,916 SPENDS MOST OF ITS OPERATIVE 1447 00:43:38,916 --> 00:43:40,084 DETAIL DECIDING WHO MAY RECEIVE 1448 00:43:40,084 --> 00:43:41,552 WHICH LOYALTY, REWARD, AND 1449 00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:43,053 INSTRUCTING ALREADY THINLY 1450 00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:44,054 STRETCHED BUSINESSES HOW TO 1451 00:43:44,054 --> 00:43:45,789 COMPLY IN ORDER TO AVOID COSTLY 1452 00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:47,324 LITIGATION. NO SEATTLE CONSUMERS 1453 00:43:47,324 --> 00:43:48,225 SHOULD BE CHARGED A HIGHER PRICE 1454 00:43:48,225 --> 00:43:49,593 BECAUSE A COMPANY USES THEIR 1455 00:43:49,593 --> 00:43:50,494 PERSONAL DATA AGAINST THEM. 1456 00:43:50,494 --> 00:43:51,428 HOWEVER, THIS DRAFT DOES NOT 1457 00:43:51,428 --> 00:43:52,429 STOP. THERE IS A PROHIBITION 1458 00:43:52,429 --> 00:43:53,897 AIMED AT WHETHER PRICE IS 1459 00:43:53,897 --> 00:43:54,832 PERSONALIZED AT ALL AND NOT 1460 00:43:54,832 --> 00:43:56,133 WHETHER OR NOT THE PRICE WENT UP 1461 00:43:56,133 --> 00:43:58,335 OR DOWN, REWARDING CUSTOMER 1462 00:43:58,335 --> 00:43:59,670 LOYALTY AND REPEAT PURCHASES 1463 00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:01,238 BASED ON A PREEXISTING, MUTUALLY 1464 00:44:01,238 --> 00:44:02,406 BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP IS A 1465 00:44:02,406 --> 00:44:03,607 PRACTICE DATING BACK THOUSANDS 1466 00:44:03,607 --> 00:44:04,842 OF YEARS. THIS PRACTICE HAS 1467 00:44:04,842 --> 00:44:05,809 ALWAYS BEEN UNDERSTOOD TO HELP 1468 00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:07,077 CONSUMERS STRETCH THEIR BUDGETS 1469 00:44:07,077 --> 00:44:08,112 AND HELP BUSINESSES PREDICT AND 1470 00:44:08,112 --> 00:44:09,780 COMPETE FOR THEIR NEXT PURCHASE. 1471 00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:11,315 A CONSUMER PROTECTION LAW SHOULD 1472 00:44:11,315 --> 00:44:12,249 NOT PRESUME THAT RECEIVING ONE 1473 00:44:12,249 --> 00:44:13,217 OF THESE DISCOUNTS IS AN INJURY. 1474 00:44:13,217 --> 00:44:21,025 THANK YOU. 1475 00:44:21,025 --> 00:44:22,126 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMY 1476 00:44:22,126 --> 00:44:23,560 HARRIS. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1477 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,097 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1478 00:44:27,097 --> 00:44:35,239 BEEN UNMUTED. 1479 00:44:35,472 --> 00:44:38,475 -- MERCEDES RINCK AND MEMBERS OF 1480 00:44:38,475 --> 00:44:38,842 THE COMMITTEE. 1481 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:39,810 -- MY NAME IS AMY HARRIS, AND 1482 00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:41,712 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE 1483 00:44:41,712 --> 00:44:43,647 WASHINGTON TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY 1484 00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:44,281 ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING NEARLY 1485 00:44:44,281 --> 00:44:45,616 800 TECH COMPANIES IN SEATTLE 1486 00:44:45,616 --> 00:44:47,618 AND ACROSS WASHINGTON. WE HAVE 1487 00:44:47,618 --> 00:44:48,185 SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE 1488 00:44:48,185 --> 00:44:49,253 PROPOSED PRICING ORDINANCE. IT 1489 00:44:49,253 --> 00:44:51,121 WOULD WORSEN SEATTLE'S 1490 00:44:51,121 --> 00:44:52,256 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS AND HARM 1491 00:44:52,256 --> 00:44:54,224 LOCAL BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY 1492 00:44:54,224 --> 00:44:55,526 GROCERS. AS DRAFTED, THE 1493 00:44:55,526 --> 00:44:57,327 ORDINANCE WOULD REDUCE CUSTOMER 1494 00:44:57,327 --> 00:44:59,263 SAVINGS, NOT PROTECT CONSUMERS. 1495 00:44:59,263 --> 00:45:01,532 SHOPPERS RELY ON FUEL DISCOUNTS, 1496 00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:02,166 DIGITAL COUPONS AND PERSONALIZED 1497 00:45:02,166 --> 00:45:02,900 REWARDS. YET THE PROPOSED CARVE 1498 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:03,767 OUTS ARE SO NARROW THAT THEY 1499 00:45:03,767 --> 00:45:05,736 COULD EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT THESE 1500 00:45:05,736 --> 00:45:08,706 WIDELY USED PROGRAMS. THE 1501 00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:09,206 ORDINANCE ALSO CREATES 1502 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:10,674 SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES. IT MAY 1503 00:45:10,674 --> 00:45:11,308 REQUIRE BUSINESSES TO DISCLOSE 1504 00:45:11,308 --> 00:45:12,609 COMPETITIVELY SENSITIVE 1505 00:45:12,609 --> 00:45:13,944 INFORMATION. GROCERS AND 1506 00:45:13,944 --> 00:45:14,511 RETAILERS MAY STOP OFFERING 1507 00:45:14,511 --> 00:45:16,213 THESE PROGRAMS ALTOGETHER. 1508 00:45:16,213 --> 00:45:17,414 SEATTLE IS ALREADY THE MOST 1509 00:45:17,414 --> 00:45:18,649 EXPENSIVE CITY IN THE COUNTRY 1510 00:45:18,649 --> 00:45:21,485 FOR DELIVERY. CONSUMER NEEDS. 1511 00:45:21,485 --> 00:45:22,553 CONSUMERS NEED MORE WAYS TO 1512 00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,722 STRETCH THEIR BUDGETS. RETAILERS 1513 00:45:24,722 --> 00:45:26,724 NEED TOOLS TO ATTRACT CUSTOMERS. 1514 00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:27,558 THIS ORDINANCE TAKES AWAY THOSE 1515 00:45:27,558 --> 00:45:29,760 OPTIONS WHEN THEY ARE NEEDED 1516 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,494 MOST. THANK YOU FOR THE 1517 00:45:30,494 --> 00:45:31,095 OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY, 1518 00:45:31,095 --> 00:45:35,566 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING 1519 00:45:35,566 --> 00:45:35,833 WITH YOU. 1520 00:45:35,833 --> 00:45:39,203 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARCOS 1521 00:45:39,203 --> 00:45:41,472 WANLESS. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1522 00:45:41,472 --> 00:45:44,441 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1523 00:45:44,441 --> 00:45:50,280 BEEN UNMUTED. 1524 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,815 -- CHAIR RINCK AND MEMBERS OF 1525 00:45:51,815 --> 00:45:53,083 THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS MARCUS 1526 00:45:53,083 --> 00:45:54,918 WANLESS, FOUNDER AND CEO OF THE 1527 00:45:54,918 --> 00:45:55,486 SEATTLE LATINO METROPOLITAN 1528 00:45:55,486 --> 00:45:57,454 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I AM HERE 1529 00:45:57,454 --> 00:45:58,922 TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS, 1530 00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:01,859 PUT TOGETHER OUR REGISTERED 1531 00:46:01,859 --> 00:46:02,392 COLLECTIVE BUSINESSES AND 1532 00:46:02,392 --> 00:46:03,060 BUSINESSES. PROFESSIONALS ADD UP 1533 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:05,762 TO MORE THAN 2000 ORGANIZATIONS 1534 00:46:05,762 --> 00:46:06,964 AND PROFESSIONALS, MAKING US THE 1535 00:46:06,964 --> 00:46:08,298 LARGEST LATINO HISPANIC CHAMBER 1536 00:46:08,298 --> 00:46:10,334 OF COMMERCE IN WASHINGTON STATE. 1537 00:46:10,334 --> 00:46:13,337 TODAY, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO 1538 00:46:13,337 --> 00:46:15,506 THIS NEW PRICING ORDINANCE, 1539 00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:16,039 WHICH WOULD HAVE SERIOUS 1540 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:18,041 ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES FOR 1541 00:46:18,041 --> 00:46:19,376 CONSUMERS AND GROCERY RETAILERS 1542 00:46:19,376 --> 00:46:22,179 IN SEATTLE. THE PROPOSAL BEFORE 1543 00:46:22,179 --> 00:46:24,448 YOU STANDS TO ELIMINATE THE 1544 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:25,916 DISCOUNT REWARD PROGRAM AND 1545 00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:28,118 OTHER COST SAVING MEASURES 1546 00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:29,853 CONSUMERS RELY ON TO KEEP 1547 00:46:29,853 --> 00:46:32,089 GROCERIES COSTS DOWN. THIS 1548 00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:34,658 ORDINANCE WILL DRIVE THEM UP. 1549 00:46:34,658 --> 00:46:35,259 THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS THE 1550 00:46:35,259 --> 00:46:36,360 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IS REAL. 1551 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,761 SEATTLE IS ALREADY TOO EXPENSIVE 1552 00:46:37,761 --> 00:46:38,962 FOR MANY FAMILIES AND 1553 00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:41,098 INDIVIDUALS. ALL WHO THINK THAT 1554 00:46:41,098 --> 00:46:42,566 THIS MEASURE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO 1555 00:46:42,566 --> 00:46:44,468 CONTROL PRICES DOWN ARE 1556 00:46:44,468 --> 00:46:46,703 FOLLOWING AN IDEALISTIC, ON REAL 1557 00:46:46,703 --> 00:46:48,605 PROMISE IN OUR OPEN MARKET 1558 00:46:48,605 --> 00:46:50,774 SYSTEM, NOTHING CAN CONTROL 1559 00:46:50,774 --> 00:46:52,209 PRICES DOWN BECAUSE IT'S A FREE 1560 00:46:52,209 --> 00:46:55,078 MARKET, NOT A CONTROL ECONOMY. 1561 00:46:55,078 --> 00:46:55,646 ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED 1562 00:46:55,646 --> 00:46:57,114 ORDINANCE WILL ALSO INCREASE 1563 00:46:57,114 --> 00:46:59,183 COSTS ON BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY 1564 00:46:59,183 --> 00:47:01,251 LOW MARGIN RETAILERS LIKE 1565 00:47:01,251 --> 00:47:08,125 GROCERS. BUSINESS NEEDS CERTAIN 1566 00:47:08,125 --> 00:47:09,960 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN 1567 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,196 PINCUS. PLEASE PLEASE PRESS STAR 1568 00:47:12,196 --> 00:47:15,833 SIX WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. 1569 00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:23,774 YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED. 1570 00:47:24,007 --> 00:47:30,781 -- I'M JOHN PINCUS FROM THE 1571 00:47:30,781 --> 00:47:32,182 NEXUS OF PRIVACY HERE TO SUPPORT 1572 00:47:32,182 --> 00:47:36,019 THE FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PRICING 1573 00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:36,620 ORDINANCE. ALGORITHMIC PRICE 1574 00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:37,454 DISCRIMINATION, ALSO KNOWN AS 1575 00:47:37,454 --> 00:47:38,422 SURVEILLANCE PRICING, MEANS 1576 00:47:38,422 --> 00:47:39,289 THEY'LL CHARGE YOU MORE IF THEY 1577 00:47:39,289 --> 00:47:40,123 THINK YOU CAN MAKE AND GET YOU 1578 00:47:40,123 --> 00:47:42,926 TO PAY MORE. THAT SHOULDN'T BE 1579 00:47:42,926 --> 00:47:44,595 LEGAL, BUT BIG TECH FIRMS AND 1580 00:47:44,595 --> 00:47:45,262 LARGE RETAILERS MAKE A LOT OF 1581 00:47:45,262 --> 00:47:46,563 MONEY FROM SURVEILLANCE PRICING, 1582 00:47:46,563 --> 00:47:48,198 SO THEY'RE ALREADY USING 1583 00:47:48,198 --> 00:47:49,600 EGREGIOUS LIES TO LOBBY AGAINST 1584 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,501 THIS ORDINANCE. DON'T BELIEVE 1585 00:47:51,501 --> 00:47:53,237 THEM. DESPITE LOBBYISTS 1586 00:47:53,237 --> 00:47:54,771 LUDICROUS CLAIMS TO THE 1587 00:47:54,771 --> 00:47:56,673 CONTRARY, THE ORDINANCE CLEARLY 1588 00:47:56,673 --> 00:47:57,241 ALLOWS LOYALTY AND REWARDS 1589 00:47:57,241 --> 00:47:58,308 PROGRAMS, COUPONS, AND 1590 00:47:58,308 --> 00:48:01,111 DISCOUNTS, BUT IT DOESN'T ALLOW 1591 00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:03,046 RETAILERS USING THESE MECHANISMS 1592 00:48:03,046 --> 00:48:04,748 AS SNEAKY BACKDOORS FOR BLACK 1593 00:48:04,748 --> 00:48:06,116 BOX ALGORITHMS THAT USE OUR 1594 00:48:06,116 --> 00:48:08,252 PERSONAL INFORMATION TO SEND 1595 00:48:08,252 --> 00:48:08,819 INDIVIDUALIZED PRICES. AND 1596 00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:11,622 THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR 1597 00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:12,656 CONSUMERS OF TECHNET. FOR 1598 00:48:12,656 --> 00:48:14,124 EXAMPLE, ASK YOU TO ALLOW THEM 1599 00:48:14,124 --> 00:48:16,226 TO SET PRICES HIGH FOR EVERYBODY 1600 00:48:16,226 --> 00:48:17,928 AND THEN USE ALGORITHMIC PRICING 1601 00:48:17,928 --> 00:48:20,497 TO GIVE SELECTIVE DISCOUNTS. HOW 1602 00:48:20,497 --> 00:48:23,066 TRANSPARENT IS THAT? HOW FAIR IS 1603 00:48:23,066 --> 00:48:25,402 THAT? SO PLEASE PASS THE FAIR 1604 00:48:25,402 --> 00:48:25,902 AND TRANSPARENT PRICING 1605 00:48:25,902 --> 00:48:27,437 ORDINANCE AND RESIST INDUSTRY 1606 00:48:27,437 --> 00:48:30,474 ATTEMPTS TO WEAKEN IT. THANK 1607 00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:34,044 YOU. 1608 00:48:34,044 --> 00:48:35,379 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CRYSTAL 1609 00:48:35,379 --> 00:48:36,146 LEATHERMAN. PLEASE PRESS STAR 1610 00:48:36,146 --> 00:48:37,047 SIX. WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. 1611 00:48:37,047 --> 00:48:45,722 YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED. 1612 00:48:45,722 --> 00:48:47,224 -- THANK YOU. CHAIR RINCK. THANK 1613 00:48:47,224 --> 00:48:47,991 YOU. CHAIR RINCK MEMBERS OF THE 1614 00:48:47,991 --> 00:48:49,326 COMMITTEE. I'M CRYSTAL 1615 00:48:49,326 --> 00:48:49,893 LEATHERMAN WITH WASHINGTON 1616 00:48:49,893 --> 00:48:51,094 RETAIL ASSOCIATION. CONCERNED 1617 00:48:51,094 --> 00:48:52,396 THAT THEIR PRICING ORDINANCE 1618 00:48:52,396 --> 00:48:54,531 COULD ELIMINATE COUPONS, 1619 00:48:54,531 --> 00:48:55,165 DISCOUNTS AND LOYALTY PROGRAMS 1620 00:48:55,165 --> 00:48:56,533 THAT SAVE SEATTLE FAMILIES 1621 00:48:56,533 --> 00:48:57,634 MILLIONS. EVERY YEAR. WE SUPPORT 1622 00:48:57,634 --> 00:48:59,970 PROHIBITING ALGORITHMIC PRICE 1623 00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:00,704 DISCRIMINATION AND ACTIVELY 1624 00:49:00,704 --> 00:49:02,539 WORKED WITH LABOR AND CONSUMER 1625 00:49:02,539 --> 00:49:03,106 ADVOCATES. LAST LEGISLATIVE 1626 00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:04,007 SESSION TOWARD A PROPOSAL THAT 1627 00:49:04,007 --> 00:49:04,875 COULD HAVE BEEN A MODEL FOR 1628 00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:07,277 SEATTLE. THIS ORDINANCE DIFFERS 1629 00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:08,211 SIGNIFICANTLY. YOU'LL LIKELY 1630 00:49:08,211 --> 00:49:09,346 HEAR TODAY THAT IT STILL 1631 00:49:09,346 --> 00:49:10,047 PROTECTS COUPONS AND LOYALTY 1632 00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:11,915 PROGRAMS. IT DOES NOT. THOSE 1633 00:49:11,915 --> 00:49:13,050 EXCLUSIONS ARE UNWORKABLE, AS 1634 00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:15,018 WRITTEN OR CONTRADICTED 1635 00:49:15,018 --> 00:49:16,286 ELSEWHERE IN THE DRAFT. THE 1636 00:49:16,286 --> 00:49:17,554 STAKES ARE REAL. THERE ARE STATE 1637 00:49:17,554 --> 00:49:19,222 FUNDED RESEARCH THAT SAYS 68% OF 1638 00:49:19,222 --> 00:49:20,190 WASHINGTON HOUSEHOLDS RELY ON 1639 00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:21,725 LOWER PRICES, WHICH INCLUDE 1640 00:49:21,725 --> 00:49:23,260 COUPONS AND DISCOUNTS TO MANAGE 1641 00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:24,594 GROCERY COSTS. AND A SINGLE 1642 00:49:24,594 --> 00:49:26,330 LOYALTY PROGRAM CAN SAVE A 1643 00:49:26,330 --> 00:49:28,165 FAMILY ABOUT $500 A YEAR. THE 1644 00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:28,699 CITY ITSELF EVEN PROMOTES 1645 00:49:28,699 --> 00:49:30,233 DISCOUNTS AND LOYALTY PROGRAMS 1646 00:49:30,233 --> 00:49:32,436 LIKE AGE FRIENDLY, CITY AT AGE 1647 00:49:32,436 --> 00:49:34,338 FRIENDLY SEATTLE, WHICH WORKS 1648 00:49:34,338 --> 00:49:34,972 WITH PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES, 1649 00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:36,773 WHICH INCLUDES GROCERS AND 1650 00:49:36,773 --> 00:49:38,575 RETAILERS. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD 1651 00:49:38,575 --> 00:49:40,277 UNDERMINE THE VERY SAVINGS THE 1652 00:49:40,277 --> 00:49:41,611 CITY ENCOURAGES AND OUTCOME AT 1653 00:49:41,611 --> 00:49:42,846 ODDS WITH THE GOAL OF 1654 00:49:42,846 --> 00:49:43,513 AFFORDABILITY. WE'RE COMMITTED 1655 00:49:43,513 --> 00:49:44,281 TO HELPING YOU GET THIS RIGHT, 1656 00:49:44,281 --> 00:49:45,315 AND I WELCOME THE CHANCE TO WORK 1657 00:49:45,315 --> 00:49:46,450 WITH YOU ON SOLUTIONS THAT 1658 00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:48,151 PROTECT SEATTLEITES WITHOUT 1659 00:49:48,151 --> 00:49:51,221 SACRIFICING THE SAVINGS THAT 1660 00:49:51,221 --> 00:49:57,928 COUNT ON. 1661 00:49:57,928 --> 00:49:59,429 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALYSSA 1662 00:49:59,429 --> 00:50:00,364 SUTTON. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1663 00:50:00,364 --> 00:50:03,800 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1664 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,672 BEEN UNMUTED. 1665 00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:11,575 -- HI, MY NAME IS LIZ. I'M A 1666 00:50:11,575 --> 00:50:12,209 DISTRICT THREE COMMUNITY MEMBER. 1667 00:50:12,209 --> 00:50:14,411 I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF 1668 00:50:14,411 --> 00:50:16,580 PROHIBITING ALGORITHMIC BASED 1669 00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:17,881 PRICE DISCRIMINATION IN SEATTLE. 1670 00:50:17,881 --> 00:50:19,616 PLEASE PROTECT OUR DATA PRIVACY 1671 00:50:19,616 --> 00:50:21,018 AND PROMOTE ETHICAL BUSINESS IN 1672 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,086 OUR CITY THAT IS CENTERED AROUND 1673 00:50:23,086 --> 00:50:23,887 COMMUNITY MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO 1674 00:50:23,887 --> 00:50:28,658 AFFORD THEIR LIVES HERE. THANK 1675 00:50:28,658 --> 00:50:28,859 YOU. 1676 00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:31,027 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. 1677 00:50:31,027 --> 00:50:32,195 ALVAREZ. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1678 00:50:32,195 --> 00:50:33,764 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1679 00:50:33,764 --> 00:50:43,740 BEEN UNMUTED. 1680 00:50:43,974 --> 00:50:48,145 -- THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING 1681 00:50:48,145 --> 00:50:50,614 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING AND 1682 00:50:50,614 --> 00:50:52,749 EXPLOITING CUSTOMER DATA. THE 1683 00:50:52,749 --> 00:50:54,584 FACT IS, BUSINESS GROUPS HAVE NO 1684 00:50:54,584 --> 00:50:56,653 INTEREST IN SAVING CONSUMERS 1685 00:50:56,653 --> 00:50:58,989 MONEY, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, 1686 00:50:58,989 --> 00:51:01,124 THESE COMPANIES RECEIVED 1687 00:51:01,124 --> 00:51:03,927 MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF 1688 00:51:03,927 --> 00:51:05,595 TAXPAYER MONEY AS REFUNDS FOR 1689 00:51:05,595 --> 00:51:07,297 THE HIGH TARIFFS OF THE PREVIOUS 1690 00:51:07,297 --> 00:51:08,732 YEAR. NONE OF THAT MONEY WAS 1691 00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:09,933 REFUNDED TO THE CONSUMER, OR 1692 00:51:09,933 --> 00:51:12,169 EVEN USED TO GIVE WORKING STAFF 1693 00:51:12,169 --> 00:51:17,140 A BONUS, LET ALONE BEING USED TO 1694 00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:17,741 ALLEVIATE THE PRICE INCREASES 1695 00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:22,446 DUE TO THE WAR IN IRAN. 1696 00:51:22,446 --> 00:51:22,946 COUNCILMEMBER RINCK THE 1697 00:51:22,946 --> 00:51:24,714 LEGISLATION TODAY FOR GROCERY 1698 00:51:24,714 --> 00:51:25,449 AFFORDABILITY IS A GREAT MOVE 1699 00:51:25,449 --> 00:51:27,617 FOR OUR CITY. LOOKING FORWARD TO 1700 00:51:27,617 --> 00:51:29,686 SEEING THIS GETTING PASSED. 1701 00:51:29,686 --> 00:51:34,057 THANK YOU ALL AND HAVE A GOOD 1702 00:51:34,057 --> 00:51:34,257 DAY. 1703 00:51:34,257 --> 00:51:36,526 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KIM 1704 00:51:36,526 --> 00:51:37,727 ENGLAND. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1705 00:51:37,727 --> 00:51:41,264 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1706 00:51:41,264 --> 00:51:49,072 BEEN UNMUTED. 1707 00:51:49,306 --> 00:51:59,783 -- GOOD MORNING, CHAIR RINCK AND 1708 00:52:04,721 --> 00:52:06,523 COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS 1709 00:52:06,523 --> 00:52:09,092 KIM ENGLAND AND I LIVE IN 1710 00:52:09,092 --> 00:52:10,861 DISTRICT FOUR. I SUPPORT 1711 00:52:10,861 --> 00:52:11,461 AMENDING THE MUNICIPAL CODES 1712 00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,296 REGARDING DOMESTIC WORKERS. I 1713 00:52:13,296 --> 00:52:16,099 HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYER OF OF 1714 00:52:16,099 --> 00:52:18,268 NANNIES AND HOUSE CLEANERS IN 1715 00:52:18,268 --> 00:52:20,036 THE PAST, AND I PLAN TO HIRE A 1716 00:52:20,036 --> 00:52:21,738 HOUSE CLEANER AGAIN SOON. I 1717 00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:24,040 TRIED TO BE A GOOD EMPLOYER. I 1718 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,609 APPRECIATE GUIDELINES TO HELP ME 1719 00:52:25,609 --> 00:52:28,945 BE A GOOD EMPLOYER. THE INITIAL 1720 00:52:28,945 --> 00:52:29,579 ORDINANCE CERTAINLY DID MUCH OF 1721 00:52:29,579 --> 00:52:32,616 THAT, BUT THESE AMENDMENTS 1722 00:52:32,616 --> 00:52:34,484 PROVIDED CLARITY OF MY 1723 00:52:34,484 --> 00:52:37,053 RESPONSIBILITIES AS AN EMPLOYER. 1724 00:52:37,053 --> 00:52:39,155 HAVING A WRITTEN AGREEMENT. AND 1725 00:52:39,155 --> 00:52:40,991 WHAT WHAT IS REQUIRED OF ME AS 1726 00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:43,660 AN EMPLOYER WHEN I WANT TO END A 1727 00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:47,197 WORK ARRANGEMENT AND A 1728 00:52:47,197 --> 00:52:49,766 REQUIREMENT TO CREATE AND RETAIN 1729 00:52:49,766 --> 00:52:51,334 GOALS AS AN EMPLOYER, I BELIEVE 1730 00:52:51,334 --> 00:52:53,803 IN TREATING WORKERS WITH DIGNITY 1731 00:52:53,803 --> 00:52:56,206 AND FAIRNESS. I WANT TO CARE FOR 1732 00:52:56,206 --> 00:52:58,308 MY FAMILY TO HAVE THESE 1733 00:52:58,308 --> 00:52:58,608 ADDITIONAL 1734 00:52:58,608 --> 00:52:59,743 -- PROTECTIONS LAID OUT IN THE 1735 00:52:59,743 --> 00:53:01,044 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU 1736 00:53:01,044 --> 00:53:05,782 FOR HEARING MY COMMENTS 1737 00:53:05,782 --> 00:53:07,317 -- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID 1738 00:53:07,317 --> 00:53:08,285 HAINES. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1739 00:53:08,285 --> 00:53:12,055 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1740 00:53:12,055 --> 00:53:18,361 BEEN UNMUTED. 1741 00:53:18,361 --> 00:53:20,397 -- HI. THANK YOU. DAVID HAINES, 1742 00:53:20,397 --> 00:53:23,700 YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ANTITRUST 1743 00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:24,668 MONOPOLY ON THE SHELF SPACE OF 1744 00:53:24,668 --> 00:53:26,903 OUR GROCERY STORES THAT ONCE 1745 00:53:26,903 --> 00:53:31,007 THEY PROFILE US IN ONE QFC AND 1746 00:53:31,007 --> 00:53:33,543 YOU GO TO ALL THE OTHER QFC, 1747 00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:35,011 THEY REFUSE TO GIVE YOU ACCESS 1748 00:53:35,011 --> 00:53:37,714 TO THOSE DISCOUNTS. AND THEY'RE 1749 00:53:37,714 --> 00:53:41,251 PROFILING WHEN YOU'RE BUYING. 1750 00:53:41,251 --> 00:53:42,552 IT'S BRUTAL. BUT WE NEED TO 1751 00:53:42,552 --> 00:53:44,020 DISCIPLINE THE GREED OF WALL 1752 00:53:44,020 --> 00:53:46,523 STREET MIDDLEMEN THAT ARE 1753 00:53:46,523 --> 00:53:47,224 SHAKING DOWN OUR ECONOMY WITH 1754 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:50,260 THE IMMORAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM 1755 00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:51,828 THAT JUSTIFIES TAKING THE 1756 00:53:51,828 --> 00:53:52,963 UNFORESEEN CAPITAL GAINS AND 1757 00:53:52,963 --> 00:53:55,365 GIVING IT BACK TO THE WORKERS 1758 00:53:55,365 --> 00:53:56,466 AND RENEGOTIATE THE VALUE OF THE 1759 00:53:56,466 --> 00:53:57,567 RENT. THE THING IS, IS LIKE, 1760 00:53:57,567 --> 00:53:58,935 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT 1761 00:53:58,935 --> 00:54:00,704 THAT KING COUNTY REGIONAL 1762 00:54:00,704 --> 00:54:01,738 HOMELESS AUTHORITY WAS SUPPOSED 1763 00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:03,573 TO, IN PART, BE CREATED TO SOLVE 1764 00:54:03,573 --> 00:54:06,042 THE HOMELESS CRISIS AND WORK 1765 00:54:06,042 --> 00:54:07,410 WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS TO KEEP 1766 00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:08,712 THEM HONEST, FORTHRIGHT, AND 1767 00:54:08,712 --> 00:54:10,847 DILIGENT WITH CONSTRUCTIVE 1768 00:54:10,847 --> 00:54:13,183 CRITICISMS. AND ALL WE SEE IS 1769 00:54:13,183 --> 00:54:14,951 TROUBLE FROM THE SEATTLE 1770 00:54:14,951 --> 00:54:15,518 BELLEVUE THAT ALLOW FOR ALL 1771 00:54:15,518 --> 00:54:16,820 THESE EMPLOYEES TO BE HIRED FROM 1772 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:18,121 KING COUNTY REGIONAL HEALTH 1773 00:54:18,121 --> 00:54:19,723 AUTHORITY. I DON'T WANT ANY OF 1774 00:54:19,723 --> 00:54:20,924 THOSE EMPLOYEES TO COME BACK 1775 00:54:20,924 --> 00:54:21,524 INTO THE GOVERNMENT DOING THE 1776 00:54:21,524 --> 00:54:23,260 SAME WATERED DOWN OVERSIGHT THAT 1777 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:26,563 NEEDS TO IMPROVE THE EFFORTS, AS 1778 00:54:26,563 --> 00:54:27,197 OPPOSED TO SQUANDERING MILLIONS 1779 00:54:27,197 --> 00:54:31,167 OF DOLLARS. 1780 00:54:31,167 --> 00:54:34,104 -- OUR FINAL SPEAKER IS LAUREN 1781 00:54:34,104 --> 00:54:34,904 RENFIELD. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX 1782 00:54:34,904 --> 00:54:38,375 WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU'VE 1783 00:54:38,375 --> 00:54:45,181 BEEN UNMUTED. 1784 00:54:45,181 --> 00:54:45,782 -- GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBER 1785 00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:46,683 RINCK OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. MY 1786 00:54:46,683 --> 00:54:47,584 NAME IS LAUREN REDFIELD FROM 1787 00:54:47,584 --> 00:54:48,652 DISTRICT SIX, AND I'M SPEAKING 1788 00:54:48,652 --> 00:54:50,253 ON BEHALF OF THE WASHINGTON AREA 1789 00:54:50,253 --> 00:54:52,389 RESISTANCE IN FAVOR OF THE FAIR 1790 00:54:52,389 --> 00:54:53,957 PRICING AND TRANSPARENCY 1791 00:54:53,957 --> 00:54:55,058 ORDINANCE. WE ARE ENTERING A NEW 1792 00:54:55,058 --> 00:54:56,259 FRONTIER OF EXTRACTION WHERE 1793 00:54:56,259 --> 00:54:58,295 PERSONAL INFORMATION IS USED TO 1794 00:54:58,295 --> 00:54:59,195 MAXIMIZE CORPORATE PROFIT. OUR 1795 00:54:59,195 --> 00:55:00,430 PERSONAL DATA SHOULD NOT BECOME 1796 00:55:00,430 --> 00:55:01,064 A WEAPON THAT CORPORATIONS USE 1797 00:55:01,064 --> 00:55:03,300 TO EXTRACT MORE MONEY FROM THOSE 1798 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,401 LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD IT. FOOD IS 1799 00:55:04,401 --> 00:55:05,435 A BASIC HUMAN NEED, NOT AN 1800 00:55:05,435 --> 00:55:08,505 OPPORTUNITY FOR CORPORATIONS TO 1801 00:55:08,505 --> 00:55:09,939 TAKE DATA FROM OUR LIVES AND USE 1802 00:55:09,939 --> 00:55:10,674 IT TO DETERMINE THE HIGHEST 1803 00:55:10,674 --> 00:55:12,242 PRICE. EACH PERSON IS WILLING OR 1804 00:55:12,242 --> 00:55:14,177 FORCED TO PAY. WITHOUT STRONG 1805 00:55:14,177 --> 00:55:15,578 GUARDRAILS, AI WILL DEEPEN 1806 00:55:15,578 --> 00:55:17,013 INEQUALITY BY ALLOWING 1807 00:55:17,013 --> 00:55:17,514 CORPORATIONS TO PROFILE 1808 00:55:17,514 --> 00:55:18,615 CONSUMERS, EXPAND SURVEILLANCE, 1809 00:55:18,615 --> 00:55:21,151 AND POWER AWAY FROM COMMUNITIES 1810 00:55:21,151 --> 00:55:22,786 TOWARDS THEMSELVES, TOWARDS 1811 00:55:22,786 --> 00:55:24,387 COMPANIES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT 1812 00:55:24,387 --> 00:55:25,789 ALREADY DOMINATE OUR FOOD 1813 00:55:25,789 --> 00:55:26,289 SYSTEM. THIS ORDINANCE 1814 00:55:26,289 --> 00:55:27,624 REPRESENTS AN IMPORTANT STEP 1815 00:55:27,624 --> 00:55:28,792 TOWARDS RIGHTS BASED AI 1816 00:55:28,792 --> 00:55:29,359 GOVERNANCE, WHERE FAIRNESS, 1817 00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:31,094 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY 1818 00:55:31,094 --> 00:55:31,995 ARE BUILT IN FROM THE BEGINNING. 1819 00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:34,497 AI IS NOT INEVITABLE. WE HAVE 1820 00:55:34,497 --> 00:55:34,998 CHOICES ABOUT HOW THESE 1821 00:55:34,998 --> 00:55:36,132 TECHNOLOGIES ARE DEVELOPED, WHAT 1822 00:55:36,132 --> 00:55:37,300 THEY ARE USED FOR, WHO BENEFIT 1823 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:39,035 FROM THEM, AND WHO BEARS THE 1824 00:55:39,035 --> 00:55:40,603 RISKS. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO 1825 00:55:40,603 --> 00:55:42,072 PASS A FAIR PRICING AND 1826 00:55:42,072 --> 00:55:42,706 TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE AND MAKE 1827 00:55:42,706 --> 00:55:43,540 SEATTLE A NATIONAL LEADER IN 1828 00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:44,441 ENSURING TECHNOLOGY SERVICE, 1829 00:55:44,441 --> 00:55:46,176 HUMAN DIGNITY, NOT SURVEILLANCE, 1830 00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:47,644 DISCRIMINATION OR UNCHECKED 1831 00:55:47,644 --> 00:55:53,550 CORPORATE POWER. THANK YOU. 1832 00:55:53,550 --> 00:55:55,885 -- RIGHT. THERE ARE NO 1833 00:55:55,885 --> 00:55:56,519 ADDITIONAL REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 1834 00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:57,587 SO WITH THAT, WE WILL PROCEED TO 1835 00:55:57,587 --> 00:55:58,588 OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS. AND I 1836 00:55:58,588 --> 00:55:59,889 WANT TO THANK EVERY SINGLE 1837 00:55:59,889 --> 00:56:00,990 PERSON WHO HAS COME OUT TODAY TO 1838 00:56:00,990 --> 00:56:03,893 MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD. IT IS 1839 00:56:03,893 --> 00:56:04,961 INVALUABLE TO ME THAT FOLKS ARE 1840 00:56:04,961 --> 00:56:06,296 ENGAGING IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, 1841 00:56:06,296 --> 00:56:07,564 AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING 1842 00:56:07,564 --> 00:56:08,732 DOWN TO CITY HALL ON A FRIDAY 1843 00:56:08,732 --> 00:56:10,467 MORNING. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN 1844 00:56:10,467 --> 00:56:11,201 THE LONGEST PUBLIC COMMENT 1845 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:12,702 PERIOD WE'VE HAD IN THIS 1846 00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:13,603 COMMITTEE SINCE CHAIRING IT. SO 1847 00:56:13,603 --> 00:56:15,872 I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU AGAIN 1848 00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:16,873 FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT. 1849 00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:18,708 I'M GOING TO TAKE US TO OUR 1850 00:56:18,708 --> 00:56:21,044 FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL THE 1851 00:56:21,044 --> 00:56:24,280 CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM ONE INTO 1852 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,150 THE RECORD? 1853 00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:29,185 -- COUNCIL BILL 12166. AN 1854 00:56:29,185 --> 00:56:29,819 ORDINANCE RELATING TO DOMESTIC 1855 00:56:29,819 --> 00:56:30,453 WORKER LABOR STANDARDS IN 1856 00:56:30,453 --> 00:56:33,456 SEATTLE. AMENDING SECTIONS 1423, 1857 00:56:33,456 --> 00:56:39,329 ZERO, TEN, 14, 23, ZERO, 20 AND 1858 00:56:39,329 --> 00:56:41,131 1423095 OF THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL 1859 00:56:41,131 --> 00:56:45,101 CODE AND ADDING NEW SECTIONS 14, 1860 00:56:45,101 --> 00:56:48,772 23, 25, 14, 23, ONE, 27 AND 1861 00:56:48,772 --> 00:56:50,774 1423, 128 TO THE SEATTLE 1862 00:56:50,774 --> 00:56:52,275 MUNICIPAL CODE TO ESTABLISH 1863 00:56:52,275 --> 00:56:53,977 WRITTEN AGREEMENT REQUIREMENT, 1864 00:56:53,977 --> 00:56:54,511 ESTABLISH PROTECTIONS FOR 1865 00:56:54,511 --> 00:56:57,814 ENTITLED, PAID AND UNPAID LEAVE, 1866 00:56:57,814 --> 00:56:58,448 INCLUDING RETALIATION PROTECTION 1867 00:56:58,448 --> 00:56:59,682 FOR TAKING PERMISSIBLE TIME OFF, 1868 00:56:59,682 --> 00:57:01,384 REQUIRING HIRING ENTITIES TO 1869 00:57:01,384 --> 00:57:02,685 CREATE AND RETAIN RECORDS, AND 1870 00:57:02,685 --> 00:57:04,053 ADVANCE NOTICE OF TERMINATION 1871 00:57:04,053 --> 00:57:05,789 REQUIREMENT UPDATE REMEDIES AND 1872 00:57:05,789 --> 00:57:07,123 PROVISIONS, AND CONFORM TO 1873 00:57:07,123 --> 00:57:08,158 CERTAIN CHANGES IN STATE LAW. 1874 00:57:08,158 --> 00:57:09,959 WITH CITY LABOR STANDARDS. 1875 00:57:09,959 --> 00:57:12,262 BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. 1876 00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:13,096 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CLERK, AND 1877 00:57:13,096 --> 00:57:15,832 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE 1878 00:57:15,832 --> 00:57:17,867 TODAY. WHEN YOU ARE READY, 1879 00:57:17,867 --> 00:57:18,468 PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF BY 1880 00:57:18,468 --> 00:57:20,136 UNMUTING YOUR MICROPHONE AND 1881 00:57:20,136 --> 00:57:23,072 STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE 1882 00:57:23,072 --> 00:57:26,776 RECORD. 1883 00:57:26,776 --> 00:57:28,178 -- OKAY. STEVE MARCHESE, 1884 00:57:28,178 --> 00:57:31,948 DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF LABOR 1885 00:57:31,948 --> 00:57:34,017 STANDARDS. 1886 00:57:34,017 --> 00:57:36,953 -- GOOD MORNING, DIANA SALAZAR, 1887 00:57:36,953 --> 00:57:37,554 SENIOR POLICY ANALYST AT THE 1888 00:57:37,554 --> 00:57:40,723 OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS. 1889 00:57:40,723 --> 00:57:43,359 -- KARINA COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF, 1890 00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:43,626 ANALYST. 1891 00:57:43,626 --> 00:57:45,328 -- GREAT, GOOD MORNING, 1892 00:57:45,328 --> 00:57:46,496 COUNCILMEMBERS. CHAIR RINCK VICE 1893 00:57:46,496 --> 00:57:47,764 CHAIR, FOSTER MEMBERS OF THE 1894 00:57:47,764 --> 00:57:48,898 COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS 1895 00:57:48,898 --> 00:57:50,366 MORNING. I'M STEVE MARCHESE, 1896 00:57:50,366 --> 00:57:52,035 I'M THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OF 1897 00:57:52,035 --> 00:57:52,902 THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS, 1898 00:57:52,902 --> 00:57:54,537 AND I'M PROUD TO BE HERE WITH 1899 00:57:54,537 --> 00:57:56,840 MY COLLEAGUE, DIANA SALAZAR TO 1900 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,808 DISCUSS WITH YOU PROPOSED 1901 00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,777 AMENDMENTS TO THE DOMESTIC 1902 00:58:00,777 --> 00:58:02,145 WORKERS ORDINANCE. AS YOU HEARD 1903 00:58:02,145 --> 00:58:03,313 FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE DOMESTIC 1904 00:58:03,313 --> 00:58:04,414 WORKERS BOARD WHO SPOKE TODAY, 1905 00:58:04,414 --> 00:58:07,917 AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM THEM IN 1906 00:58:07,917 --> 00:58:08,384 THE PAST AT PREVIOUS 1907 00:58:08,384 --> 00:58:09,419 PRESENTATIONS. THIS IS A 1908 00:58:09,419 --> 00:58:10,487 TRAILBLAZING EFFORT THAT THE 1909 00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:13,489 CITY HAS BEEN UNDERTAKING TO 1910 00:58:13,489 --> 00:58:15,458 ELEVATE THE VOICE AND THE 1911 00:58:15,458 --> 00:58:17,260 IMPORTANCE OF DOMESTIC WORKERS, 1912 00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:17,727 AND THE IMPORTANCE OF 1913 00:58:17,727 --> 00:58:18,595 UNDERSTANDING THEIR CONDITIONS 1914 00:58:18,595 --> 00:58:22,498 AND THEIR NEEDS AS THEY ADVOCATE 1915 00:58:22,498 --> 00:58:23,099 FOR BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS 1916 00:58:23,099 --> 00:58:25,368 AND BETTER TREATMENT. THIS 1917 00:58:25,368 --> 00:58:26,369 ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN IN 1918 00:58:26,369 --> 00:58:28,638 EFFECT SINCE 2019, IT WAS THE 1919 00:58:28,638 --> 00:58:30,340 FIRST MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE IN THE 1920 00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:32,575 FIRST. WE HAD THE FIRST CITY TO 1921 00:58:32,575 --> 00:58:33,476 CREATE THIS. OUR OFFICE HAS HAD 1922 00:58:33,476 --> 00:58:35,512 THE PRIVILEGE OF PARTNERING WITH 1923 00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:36,746 THE BOARD AND WITH MEMBERS OF 1924 00:58:36,746 --> 00:58:39,148 THE COMMUNITY TO DISCUSS, 1925 00:58:39,148 --> 00:58:41,718 ADVOCATE, LEARN, SHARE RESEARCH 1926 00:58:41,718 --> 00:58:42,886 ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF DOMESTIC 1927 00:58:42,886 --> 00:58:44,888 WORKERS, AND WE'VE LEARNED A 1928 00:58:44,888 --> 00:58:46,489 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. THIS 1929 00:58:46,489 --> 00:58:47,090 PARTNERSHIP IS ONE ONE OF THE 1930 00:58:47,090 --> 00:58:47,957 MOST IMPORTANT ONES, I THINK 1931 00:58:47,957 --> 00:58:50,527 THIS DEPARTMENT HAS HAD. AND WE 1932 00:58:50,527 --> 00:58:51,928 ARE CONSTANTLY, AS I THINK 1933 00:58:51,928 --> 00:58:54,797 MENTIONED EARLIER, DISCUSSING 1934 00:58:54,797 --> 00:58:55,298 DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER 1935 00:58:55,298 --> 00:58:56,833 JURISDICTIONS WHO ARE LEARNING 1936 00:58:56,833 --> 00:58:57,834 FROM US THROUGH OUR EXPERIENCE. 1937 00:58:57,834 --> 00:59:01,504 AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE PLEASED TO 1938 00:59:01,504 --> 00:59:02,772 BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THE 1939 00:59:02,772 --> 00:59:03,973 PASSAGE OF THE STATE LAW. 1940 00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:06,276 EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT CREATED 1941 00:59:06,276 --> 00:59:06,809 STATEWIDE DOMESTIC WORKER 1942 00:59:06,809 --> 00:59:08,011 PROTECTIONS. SO THE EFFORT THAT 1943 00:59:08,011 --> 00:59:09,178 WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE 1944 00:59:09,178 --> 00:59:10,313 INFORMATION YOU'RE SEEING, HAS 1945 00:59:10,313 --> 00:59:13,449 BEEN THE PRODUCT OF A LONG 1946 00:59:13,449 --> 00:59:16,419 SERIES OF MEETINGS, RESEARCH, 1947 00:59:16,419 --> 00:59:17,820 ADVOCACY. IT BOTH HARMONIZES 1948 00:59:17,820 --> 00:59:19,222 WITH THE STATE LAW AND ALSO 1949 00:59:19,222 --> 00:59:21,624 OFFERS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO 1950 00:59:21,624 --> 00:59:22,225 EXPAND PROTECTIONS TO WORKERS 1951 00:59:22,225 --> 00:59:25,094 WHO MAKE OUR CITY WORK. THESE 1952 00:59:25,094 --> 00:59:26,396 ARE THE WORKERS WHO COME INTO 1953 00:59:26,396 --> 00:59:27,897 OUR HOMES TO CLEAN, TO CARE FOR 1954 00:59:27,897 --> 00:59:29,399 OUR CHILDREN, TO ATTEND OUR 1955 00:59:29,399 --> 00:59:32,568 GARDENS AND OUR LAWNS. THESE ARE 1956 00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:33,536 FOLKS THAT WE VERY OFTEN SEE, 1957 00:59:33,536 --> 00:59:35,705 BUT MAY NOT NECESSARILY KNOW, 1958 00:59:35,705 --> 00:59:38,074 BUT THEY ARE CREATING THE WORLD 1959 00:59:38,074 --> 00:59:39,342 THAT WE LIVE IN AND MAKING IT 1960 00:59:39,342 --> 00:59:41,244 POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO THE WORK 1961 00:59:41,244 --> 00:59:43,479 THAT WE DO EVERY DAY. SO IN 1962 00:59:43,479 --> 00:59:44,514 RECOGNITION OF THEIR WORK, IT'S 1963 00:59:44,514 --> 00:59:46,082 MY HONOR TO HAVE A DISCUSSION 1964 00:59:46,082 --> 00:59:47,383 ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THIS 1965 00:59:47,383 --> 00:59:49,085 ORDINANCE. DIANA IS GOING TO BE 1966 00:59:49,085 --> 00:59:51,154 ABLE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE 1967 00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:52,121 SPECIFICS OF OUR PROPOSALS, AND 1968 00:59:52,121 --> 00:59:54,123 I'M GOING TO TURN THE 1969 00:59:54,123 --> 00:59:55,592 PRESENTATION OVER TO HER. 1970 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:57,460 -- THANK YOU. STEVE. SO THE 1971 00:59:57,460 --> 01:00:00,196 AGENDA FOR TODAY IS I WILL 1972 01:00:00,196 --> 01:00:01,230 PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF 1973 01:00:01,230 --> 01:00:05,168 WHAT'S IN THE LAW I WILL 1974 01:00:05,168 --> 01:00:06,269 DISCUSS THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT 1975 01:00:06,269 --> 01:00:07,437 PROCESS, AS STEVE MENTIONED, IS 1976 01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,272 YEARS IN THE MAKING. THEN I WILL 1977 01:00:09,272 --> 01:00:12,508 GO TO A DISCUSSION DETAILING OUT 1978 01:00:12,508 --> 01:00:14,010 EACH INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENT THAT 1979 01:00:14,010 --> 01:00:16,145 YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. 1980 01:00:16,145 --> 01:00:18,181 AND THEN I ALSO DO WANT TO HAVE 1981 01:00:18,181 --> 01:00:20,450 A DISCUSSION AROUND THE LOCAL 1982 01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:21,884 AND STATE INTERACTION WITH THE 1983 01:00:21,884 --> 01:00:23,353 NEWLY PASSED STATE LAW THAT WILL 1984 01:00:23,353 --> 01:00:27,223 GO INTO EFFECT JULY 1st, 2027. 1985 01:00:27,223 --> 01:00:29,158 AND WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING, 1986 01:00:29,158 --> 01:00:29,626 SHOULD YOU PASS THESE 1987 01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:30,793 AMENDMENTS, TO ALSO GO INTO 1988 01:00:30,793 --> 01:00:34,697 EFFECT JULY 1st, 2027? THEN I 1989 01:00:34,697 --> 01:00:38,334 WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR 1990 01:00:38,334 --> 01:00:39,202 QUESTIONS. SO AS FOLKS HAVE 1991 01:00:39,202 --> 01:00:40,603 MENTIONED ALREADY, WE BECAME THE 1992 01:00:40,603 --> 01:00:42,105 FIRST CITY IN THE COUNTRY TO 1993 01:00:42,105 --> 01:00:45,141 PASS DOMESTIC WORKER ORDINANCE, 1994 01:00:45,141 --> 01:00:46,943 MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS DOMESTIC 1995 01:00:46,943 --> 01:00:50,146 WORKER BILL OF RIGHTS. YOU SEE 1996 01:00:50,146 --> 01:00:51,848 HERE, WHAT ARE THE PROTECTIONS 1997 01:00:51,848 --> 01:00:53,349 AFFORDED UNDER THE LAW? I DO 1998 01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:55,718 WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO ITEMS. THE 1999 01:00:55,718 --> 01:00:57,687 DWELL ALSO CREATED THE DOMESTIC 2000 01:00:57,687 --> 01:01:01,190 WORKER STANDARDS BOARD, WHICH IS 2001 01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:03,559 A BOARD OF 13 MEMBERS HIRED 2002 01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:05,862 ENTITY REPRESENTATION, PRIVATE 2003 01:01:05,862 --> 01:01:08,931 EMPLOYERS, AS WELL AS DOMESTIC 2004 01:01:08,931 --> 01:01:11,434 WORKERS THEMSELVES OR WORKER 2005 01:01:11,434 --> 01:01:12,535 ADVOCATES, AND THE PURPOSE OF 2006 01:01:12,535 --> 01:01:14,704 THE BOARD IS ESSENTIALLY TO 2007 01:01:14,704 --> 01:01:15,304 CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ON 2008 01:01:15,304 --> 01:01:16,672 DOMESTIC WORKER LABOR STANDARDS. 2009 01:01:16,672 --> 01:01:18,374 THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE 2010 01:01:18,374 --> 01:01:20,109 RECOMMENDATIONS TO US AT OUR 2011 01:01:20,109 --> 01:01:22,779 OFFICE, AS WELL AS TO YOU AS 2012 01:01:22,779 --> 01:01:24,347 COUNCILMEMBERS, WHICH THEY 2013 01:01:24,347 --> 01:01:26,482 PROVIDED A BRIEF INTRO EARLIER 2014 01:01:26,482 --> 01:01:28,351 THIS YEAR AS WELL TO THE 2015 01:01:28,351 --> 01:01:29,519 MAYOR'S OFFICE. THE NEXT THING 2016 01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:30,720 I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THE 2017 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,656 LAW THAT IS UNIQUE IS THAT 2018 01:01:33,656 --> 01:01:35,992 DOMESTIC WORKERS, AS DEFINED 2019 01:01:35,992 --> 01:01:38,361 UNDER THE LAW, CAN BE BOTH 2020 01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:40,596 EMPLOYEES OR INDEPENDENT 2021 01:01:40,596 --> 01:01:42,765 CONTRACTORS. THEY CAN BE 2022 01:01:42,765 --> 01:01:43,332 SALARIED WORKERS OR HOURLY 2023 01:01:43,332 --> 01:01:45,234 WORKERS. AND I WILL SHARE 2024 01:01:45,234 --> 01:01:48,738 BRIEFLY IN A IN A FUTURE LATER 2025 01:01:48,738 --> 01:01:49,439 IN THE SLIDES ABOUT HOW THAT'S 2026 01:01:49,439 --> 01:01:51,774 UNIQUE AND HOW WE'VE APPROACHED 2027 01:01:51,774 --> 01:01:55,344 THE ENFORCEMENT AND THE 2028 01:01:55,344 --> 01:01:59,048 AMENDMENTS TODAY. SO AS 2029 01:01:59,048 --> 01:02:01,117 MENTIONED, THIS POLICY, ALTHOUGH 2030 01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:03,252 WE STARTED DOING STAKEHOLDER 2031 01:02:03,252 --> 01:02:05,655 EARLIER THIS YEAR, THIS REALLY 2032 01:02:05,655 --> 01:02:07,824 STARTED BACK IN MAY OF 2021, 2033 01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:11,661 WHEN THE BOARD WAS IN FRONT OF 2034 01:02:11,661 --> 01:02:13,863 YOU ALL TO DO THEIR INITIAL SET 2035 01:02:13,863 --> 01:02:15,965 OF RECOMMENDATIONS. TWO OF WHICH 2036 01:02:15,965 --> 01:02:19,068 WE'LL BE DISCUSSING TODAY. THEY 2037 01:02:19,068 --> 01:02:20,870 ORIGINALLY WERE REQUESTING OR 2038 01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:22,839 RECOMMENDING MANDATING WRITTEN 2039 01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:24,907 CONTRACTS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING 2040 01:02:24,907 --> 01:02:28,878 PORTABLE PAID TIME OFF FOR 2041 01:02:28,878 --> 01:02:30,279 DOMESTIC WORKERS. COUNCIL 2042 01:02:30,279 --> 01:02:32,448 RESPONDED BY DIRECTING OUR 2043 01:02:32,448 --> 01:02:34,884 OFFICE TO WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS 2044 01:02:34,884 --> 01:02:35,485 TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION 2045 01:02:35,485 --> 01:02:37,954 AROUND PORTABLE PAID TIME OFF, 2046 01:02:37,954 --> 01:02:41,057 WHICH OUR OFFICE SUBMITTED OR 2047 01:02:41,057 --> 01:02:44,060 PUBLISHED. PUBLISHED A REPORT IN 2048 01:02:44,060 --> 01:02:46,229 OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT 2049 01:02:46,229 --> 01:02:49,298 REPORT ALSO INCLUDED SOME 2050 01:02:49,298 --> 01:02:50,700 ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT 2051 01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:53,803 INFORM THE AMENDMENTS TODAY THE 2052 01:02:53,803 --> 01:02:55,771 BOARD THEN RECEIVED THAT REPORT, 2053 01:02:55,771 --> 01:02:58,007 AS WELL AS THEIR INVOLVEMENT AT 2054 01:02:58,007 --> 01:03:03,045 THE STATE LEVEL, TO PASS WHAT 2055 01:03:03,045 --> 01:03:03,679 THE DOMESTIC WORKER PROTECTIONS 2056 01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:05,515 TO OFFICIALLY VOTE AND DIRECT 2057 01:03:05,515 --> 01:03:07,850 OUR OFFICE IN NOVEMBER OF LAST 2058 01:03:07,850 --> 01:03:10,520 YEAR TO LOOK INTO AMENDMENTS FOR 2059 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,688 THE DOMESTIC WORKERS ORDINANCE 2060 01:03:12,688 --> 01:03:15,424 AND PROVIDE SOME TECHNICAL 2061 01:03:15,424 --> 01:03:16,459 ANALYSIS. WHILE WE WERE DOING 2062 01:03:16,459 --> 01:03:18,628 THAT, THEY WERE ALSO INVOLVED AT 2063 01:03:18,628 --> 01:03:20,496 THE STATE LEVEL. AS 2064 01:03:20,496 --> 01:03:22,231 COUNCILMEMBER RINCK MENTIONED 2065 01:03:22,231 --> 01:03:24,734 EARLIER, SUBSTITUTE HOUSE BILL 2066 01:03:24,734 --> 01:03:27,236 2355 PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL, 2067 01:03:27,236 --> 01:03:30,039 AND IT WAS ALSO IN THE CITY OF 2068 01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:30,640 SEATTLE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IN 2069 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:36,312 OUR OFFICE SPOKE IN SUPPORT. SO 2070 01:03:36,312 --> 01:03:36,813 GIVEN THAT WE HAVE NEW 2071 01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:37,480 PROTECTIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL, 2072 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,782 AS WELL AS THE DIRECTION THAT WE 2073 01:03:39,782 --> 01:03:42,051 RECEIVED FROM FROM THE BOARD AND 2074 01:03:42,051 --> 01:03:45,521 OUR OWN RESEARCH THROUGH THE PTO 2075 01:03:45,521 --> 01:03:46,155 REPORT AND IN CONVERSATIONS WITH 2076 01:03:46,155 --> 01:03:49,659 OTHER JURISDICTIONS. WE MOVED 2077 01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:51,694 FORWARD AND ASKED THE MAYOR'S 2078 01:03:51,694 --> 01:03:52,862 OFFICE TO OFFICIALLY HAVE SOME 2079 01:03:52,862 --> 01:03:54,597 STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT ON THIS 2080 01:03:54,597 --> 01:03:56,265 ISSUE AND WHAT THE AMENDMENTS 2081 01:03:56,265 --> 01:03:59,135 CAN LOOK LIKE. WE DID THAT IN 2082 01:03:59,135 --> 01:04:01,003 COLLABORATION WITH COUNCILMEMBER 2083 01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:03,606 RINCK OFFICE, AND WE HOSTED TWO 2084 01:04:03,606 --> 01:04:04,874 STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN APRIL OF 2085 01:04:04,874 --> 01:04:08,211 THIS YEAR. WE HAD ABOUT 40 2086 01:04:08,211 --> 01:04:11,013 PARTICIPANTS REPRESENTATION FROM 2087 01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:13,382 HIGHER ED ENTITIES, AS WELL AS 2088 01:04:13,382 --> 01:04:15,151 DOMESTIC WORKERS AND NATIONAL 2089 01:04:15,151 --> 01:04:16,686 ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS HAND IN 2090 01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:19,222 HAND, THAT WORK WITH EMPLOYERS 2091 01:04:19,222 --> 01:04:21,157 AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL DOMESTIC 2092 01:04:21,157 --> 01:04:23,860 WORKERS ALLIANCE THAT 2093 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:26,028 CONVERSATION PRIMARILY FOCUSED 2094 01:04:26,028 --> 01:04:27,230 ON THE BOARD'S INITIAL SET OF 2095 01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:29,732 RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH ARE 2096 01:04:29,732 --> 01:04:30,366 WRITTEN AGREEMENTS, RETALIATION 2097 01:04:30,366 --> 01:04:32,001 PROTECTION FOR TAKING TIME OFF 2098 01:04:32,001 --> 01:04:35,738 AND HIRING ENTITY RECORDS. 2099 01:04:35,738 --> 01:04:38,341 THROUGH THOSE ADDITIONAL 2100 01:04:38,341 --> 01:04:39,408 CONVERSATIONS AND OUR RESEARCH 2101 01:04:39,408 --> 01:04:40,676 AND OUR COLLABORATION WITH 2102 01:04:40,676 --> 01:04:43,079 CENTRAL STAFF AS WELL. WHAT YOU 2103 01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,114 SEE HERE TODAY IS THESE SETS OF 2104 01:04:45,114 --> 01:04:47,717 AMENDMENTS, THE DEFINITION OF 2105 01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:49,785 ADVERSE ACTION WORKER 2106 01:04:49,785 --> 01:04:51,420 PROTECTIONS TO ALIGN WITH THE 2107 01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:53,756 STATE, ADDING SOME EXPLICIT 2108 01:04:53,756 --> 01:04:54,290 LANGUAGE FOR RETALIATION, 2109 01:04:54,290 --> 01:04:56,259 PROTECTION, FOR TAKING 2110 01:04:56,259 --> 01:04:58,861 PERMISSIBLE TIME OFF, REQUIRING 2111 01:04:58,861 --> 01:05:01,564 HIGHER ENTITIES TO TRACK AND 2112 01:05:01,564 --> 01:05:03,266 RETAIN PAYMENT RECORDS, REQUIRE 2113 01:05:03,266 --> 01:05:06,969 ADVANCE NOTICE OF TERMINATION, 2114 01:05:06,969 --> 01:05:07,536 REQUIRE WRITTEN AGREEMENTS 2115 01:05:07,536 --> 01:05:08,604 BETWEEN THE DOMESTIC WORKER AND 2116 01:05:08,604 --> 01:05:09,739 THE HIRING ENTITY, AND 2117 01:05:09,739 --> 01:05:13,075 STANDARDIZE OUR ENFORCEMENT 2118 01:05:13,075 --> 01:05:14,844 LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE FINES FOR 2119 01:05:14,844 --> 01:05:17,580 VIOLATIONS AS WELL AS OTHER 2120 01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:19,282 STANDARD LANGUAGE IN OUR 2121 01:05:19,282 --> 01:05:19,849 ENFORCEMENT CODE AND OTHER 2122 01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:24,320 ORDINANCES, SUCH AS WAIVERS. I 2123 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,189 WILL NOW DISCUSS, BIT BY BIT OR 2124 01:05:27,189 --> 01:05:29,725 IN DETAIL WHAT EACH AMENDMENT 2125 01:05:29,725 --> 01:05:31,360 DOES. SO THE FIRST YOU'LL NOTICE 2126 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,562 IS WE ADDED THE DEFINITION OF 2127 01:05:33,562 --> 01:05:35,264 ADVERSE ACTION INTO THE 2128 01:05:35,264 --> 01:05:37,333 ORDINANCE TEXT. IT WAS 2129 01:05:37,333 --> 01:05:40,036 ORIGINALLY IN THE RULES OF THE 2130 01:05:40,036 --> 01:05:41,771 LAW AND WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT 2131 01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:43,506 INTO THE ORDINANCE FOR MORE 2132 01:05:43,506 --> 01:05:45,041 CLARITY. IT ALSO IS AN EVOLUTION 2133 01:05:45,041 --> 01:05:47,677 OF OUR EXISTING DEFINITION. I 2134 01:05:47,677 --> 01:05:49,111 MENTIONED EARLIER THAT DOMESTIC 2135 01:05:49,111 --> 01:05:51,714 WORKERS CAN BE BOTH INDEPENDENT 2136 01:05:51,714 --> 01:05:54,583 CONTRACTORS OR EMPLOYEES, AND 2137 01:05:54,583 --> 01:05:57,420 SINCE WE PASSED DWO, WE'VE ALSO 2138 01:05:57,420 --> 01:06:00,823 PASSED ADDITIONAL LABOR 2139 01:06:00,823 --> 01:06:01,357 STANDARDS THAT PERTAIN TO 2140 01:06:01,357 --> 01:06:03,059 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AND APP 2141 01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:04,160 BASED WORKERS. AND SO WE WANTED 2142 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,263 TO INCLUDE THE DIFFERENT 2143 01:06:07,263 --> 01:06:09,932 DEFINITION TO REFLECT THE 2144 01:06:09,932 --> 01:06:13,903 DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE WORK THAT 2145 01:06:13,903 --> 01:06:14,537 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AND APP 2146 01:06:14,537 --> 01:06:15,905 BASED WORKERS MAY DO TO REFLECT 2147 01:06:15,905 --> 01:06:17,807 THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF 2148 01:06:17,807 --> 01:06:20,409 RETALIATION PROTECTIONS. WE ALSO 2149 01:06:20,409 --> 01:06:22,611 ADDED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AROUND 2150 01:06:22,611 --> 01:06:24,814 IMMIGRANT WORKER PROTECTION. 2151 01:06:24,814 --> 01:06:25,448 THIS IS SIMILAR FROM THE STATE. 2152 01:06:25,448 --> 01:06:27,149 WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD 2153 01:06:27,149 --> 01:06:30,286 CONSISTENT LANGUAGE AROUND 2154 01:06:30,286 --> 01:06:32,822 IMMIGRANT PROTECTIONS. GIVEN THE 2155 01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:37,960 POLITICAL REALITY AT THE FEDERAL 2156 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,161 LEVEL. SIMILAR TO ALIGNING WITH 2157 01:06:39,161 --> 01:06:42,164 THE STATE IS DOMESTIC WORKER 2158 01:06:42,164 --> 01:06:42,932 PROTECTIONS, WORKER DOCUMENTS, 2159 01:06:42,932 --> 01:06:47,770 EXCUSE ME. CURRENTLY, DOMESTIC 2160 01:06:47,770 --> 01:06:50,005 WORKERS DO HAVE PROTECTIONS FROM 2161 01:06:50,005 --> 01:06:50,573 THEIR ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS OR 2162 01:06:50,573 --> 01:06:51,640 PERSONAL EFFECTS WITH THE HIGHER 2163 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,342 ENTITY MAY NOT TAKE THAT. THE 2164 01:06:53,342 --> 01:06:55,644 STATE WENT ABOVE. BEYOND THAT 2165 01:06:55,644 --> 01:06:57,546 AND PROVIDED ADDITIONAL CLARITY 2166 01:06:57,546 --> 01:06:59,515 TO ALSO INCLUDE LEGAL DOCUMENTS, 2167 01:06:59,515 --> 01:07:01,884 FORMS OF IDENTIFICATION, 2168 01:07:01,884 --> 01:07:03,919 PASSPORTS OR IMMIGRATION 2169 01:07:03,919 --> 01:07:05,054 DOCUMENTS FOR SIMILAR REASONS. 2170 01:07:05,054 --> 01:07:05,821 WITH THE ADVERSE ACTION, WE FELT 2171 01:07:05,821 --> 01:07:07,857 THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO ALIGN 2172 01:07:07,857 --> 01:07:09,125 WITH THE STATE AND INCLUDE THIS 2173 01:07:09,125 --> 01:07:13,996 LANGUAGE AS WELL. THE NEXT PIECE 2174 01:07:13,996 --> 01:07:15,698 IS RETALIATION. PROTECTIONS FOR 2175 01:07:15,698 --> 01:07:17,266 TAKING PERMISSIBLE TIME OFF. I 2176 01:07:17,266 --> 01:07:19,335 DO WANT TO STRESS THAT THE 2177 01:07:19,335 --> 01:07:21,070 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WE ARE NOT 2178 01:07:21,070 --> 01:07:24,006 MANDATING OR SUGGESTING THAT 2179 01:07:24,006 --> 01:07:25,708 HIGHER ENTITIES PROVIDE 2180 01:07:25,708 --> 01:07:27,643 ADDITIONAL PAID TIME OFF THAN 2181 01:07:27,643 --> 01:07:28,944 WHAT THEY ARE ALREADY LEGALLY 2182 01:07:28,944 --> 01:07:31,447 ENTITLED, OR HAVE TO COMPLY 2183 01:07:31,447 --> 01:07:34,050 UNDER, BUT INSTEAD WANT TO 2184 01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:35,618 STRESS WHAT WE FOUND FROM OUR 2185 01:07:35,618 --> 01:07:37,820 PTO REPORT. AND THAT IS DOMESTIC 2186 01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:39,655 WORKERS ARE STILL NOT TAKING 2187 01:07:39,655 --> 01:07:42,558 TIME OFF, EVEN IF THEY ARE AWARE 2188 01:07:42,558 --> 01:07:45,327 THAT THEY ARE COVERED UNDER, FOR 2189 01:07:45,327 --> 01:07:46,796 EXAMPLE, THE SEEK AND SAVE TIME 2190 01:07:46,796 --> 01:07:49,598 LAW. IF THEIR EMPLOYEES. SO WE 2191 01:07:49,598 --> 01:07:51,834 REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE EXPLICIT 2192 01:07:51,834 --> 01:07:53,769 LANGUAGE UNDER THE DWO THAT IF 2193 01:07:53,769 --> 01:07:56,539 YOU TAKE TIME OFF THAT YOU ARE 2194 01:07:56,539 --> 01:07:58,340 ALREADY LEGALLY ENTITLED TO, YOU 2195 01:07:58,340 --> 01:07:59,241 DO HAVE PROTECTIONS FROM 2196 01:07:59,241 --> 01:08:02,678 RETALIATION AND WHAT WE HEARD 2197 01:08:02,678 --> 01:08:06,015 FROM HIGHER ED ENTITIES AND FROM 2198 01:08:06,015 --> 01:08:08,050 DOMESTIC WORKER IS THAT HAVING 2199 01:08:08,050 --> 01:08:10,252 THEIR RIGHTS LIVE UNDER ONE LAW, 2200 01:08:10,252 --> 01:08:13,255 SUCH AS THE DWO, EVEN THOUGH IT 2201 01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:14,790 INCORPORATES EXISTING 2202 01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:15,357 PROTECTIONS. IF YOU'RE AN 2203 01:08:15,357 --> 01:08:18,094 EMPLOYEE UNDER STATE OR IF YOU 2204 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,595 ARE AN APP BASED WORKER UNDER 2205 01:08:19,595 --> 01:08:21,664 THE APP BASED WORKER, SST, 2206 01:08:21,664 --> 01:08:24,100 HAVING ALL OF THAT LIVE UNDER 2207 01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,402 ONE ORDINANCE IS HELPFUL FOR 2208 01:08:26,402 --> 01:08:28,437 EMPLOYERS TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF 2209 01:08:28,437 --> 01:08:29,772 THEIR COMPLIANCE AND FOR 2210 01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:31,707 DOMESTIC WORKERS TO UNDERSTAND 2211 01:08:31,707 --> 01:08:34,176 ALL OF THEIR RIGHTS. SO THE DWO 2212 01:08:34,176 --> 01:08:35,811 CAN FUNCTION AS A VEHICLE TO 2213 01:08:35,811 --> 01:08:37,880 CONTINUE TO RAISE AWARENESS THAT 2214 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,582 HIGHER ENTITIES ARE EMPLOYERS, 2215 01:08:39,582 --> 01:08:41,784 AND DOMESTIC WORKERS, ARE 2216 01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:42,284 WORKERS AND HAVE LABOR 2217 01:08:42,284 --> 01:08:46,355 PROTECTIONS THE NEXT PIECE IS 2218 01:08:46,355 --> 01:08:48,491 RECORDS RETENTION. WE ARE 2219 01:08:48,491 --> 01:08:49,825 REQUIRING FOR HIGHER ENTITIES TO 2220 01:08:49,825 --> 01:08:52,061 CREATE AND RETAIN RECORDS. THIS 2221 01:08:52,061 --> 01:08:53,929 IS A STANDARD PRACTICE ACROSS 2222 01:08:53,929 --> 01:08:56,332 THE OTHER 15 LAWS THAT WE 2223 01:08:56,332 --> 01:08:58,000 ENFORCE, AND IT'S ALSO 2224 01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,368 CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW. AND 2225 01:08:59,368 --> 01:09:02,137 WE ARE NOT REQUIRING THE HIGHER 2226 01:09:02,137 --> 01:09:03,339 ENTITY TO PROVIDE US WITH THE 2227 01:09:03,339 --> 01:09:05,307 RECORDS AS THEY'RE CREATING. 2228 01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:10,012 ONLY IF WE HAVE A COMPLAINT OR 2229 01:09:10,012 --> 01:09:10,646 HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE WE THERE 2230 01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:15,417 MAY BE A VIOLATION. THE NEXT 2231 01:09:15,417 --> 01:09:16,919 PIECE IS TERMINATION. NOTICE 2232 01:09:16,919 --> 01:09:18,854 AGAIN, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH 2233 01:09:18,854 --> 01:09:21,657 THE STATE LAW. DOMESTIC WORKERS 2234 01:09:21,657 --> 01:09:23,125 SOON WILL HAVE A TWO WEEK 2235 01:09:23,125 --> 01:09:25,761 ADVANCE NOTICE IF THEY ARE TO BE 2236 01:09:25,761 --> 01:09:27,229 TERMINATED, OR FOUR WEEKS IF 2237 01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:29,632 THEY ARE LIVE IN DOMESTIC 2238 01:09:29,632 --> 01:09:30,966 WORKERS. AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE 2239 01:09:30,966 --> 01:09:34,303 CONSISTENT RIGHTS AND HAVE 2240 01:09:34,303 --> 01:09:36,272 INCLUDED THAT WITH OUR 2241 01:09:36,272 --> 01:09:37,806 AMENDMENTS HERE TODAY. THE LAW 2242 01:09:37,806 --> 01:09:39,241 DOES PROVIDE SOME EXCEPTIONS 2243 01:09:39,241 --> 01:09:40,976 THAT YOU SEE HERE FOR NOT 2244 01:09:40,976 --> 01:09:42,111 NECESSARILY HAVING TO FOLLOW THE 2245 01:09:42,111 --> 01:09:45,881 TWO WEEK OR THE FOUR WEEK 2246 01:09:45,881 --> 01:09:49,118 TIMELINE. THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT 2247 01:09:49,118 --> 01:09:51,053 OF YOU TODAY CREATES A NEW 2248 01:09:51,053 --> 01:09:53,756 SECTION UNDER WRITTEN 2249 01:09:53,756 --> 01:09:55,691 AGREEMENTS. THIS SECTION 2250 01:09:55,691 --> 01:09:57,760 PROVIDES THAT A HIGHER ENTITY 2251 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,361 SHALL HAVE WRITTEN AGREEMENT 2252 01:09:59,361 --> 01:10:01,764 BETWEEN THEM AND THE DOMESTIC 2253 01:10:01,764 --> 01:10:03,332 WORKER. THIS IS ONE OF THE 2254 01:10:03,332 --> 01:10:04,400 ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM 2255 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,001 THE BOARD BACK IN 2021, AND IT 2256 01:10:06,001 --> 01:10:08,470 SHOULD INCLUDE INFORMATION SUCH 2257 01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:11,974 AS LOCATION, RATE OF PAY, HOURS, 2258 01:10:11,974 --> 01:10:13,342 TERMS OF SERVICES, WHETHER OR 2259 01:10:13,342 --> 01:10:16,178 NOT THE DOMESTIC WORKER IS AN 2260 01:10:16,178 --> 01:10:16,779 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR OR AN 2261 01:10:16,779 --> 01:10:18,781 EMPLOYEE, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL 2262 01:10:18,781 --> 01:10:20,482 BENEFITS THAT THEY NEGOTIATED 2263 01:10:20,482 --> 01:10:24,653 AND AGREED UPON. SO ULTIMATELY, 2264 01:10:24,653 --> 01:10:25,220 THE DOMESTIC WORKER AND THE 2265 01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:27,122 HIGHER ENTITY MUST AGREE TO THE 2266 01:10:27,122 --> 01:10:30,259 TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. BUT THIS 2267 01:10:30,259 --> 01:10:30,793 IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE 2268 01:10:30,793 --> 01:10:33,162 DOMESTIC WORKER TO REQUEST 2269 01:10:33,162 --> 01:10:33,929 ADDITIONAL VACATION TIME. FOR 2270 01:10:33,929 --> 01:10:37,499 EXAMPLE, ARE ABLE TO SAY, THIS 2271 01:10:37,499 --> 01:10:39,168 IS WHAT I THESE ARE THE TERMS 2272 01:10:39,168 --> 01:10:41,303 UNDER THE UNDER WHICH I WILL 2273 01:10:41,303 --> 01:10:43,706 PERFORM THE WORK THAT WE ARE 2274 01:10:43,706 --> 01:10:45,608 DISCUSSING. WE HEARD FROM 2275 01:10:45,608 --> 01:10:47,009 STAKEHOLDERS THAT THE PRIMARY 2276 01:10:47,009 --> 01:10:50,446 METHOD OF COMMUNICATION IS TEXT 2277 01:10:50,446 --> 01:10:51,981 MESSAGES. THEY. YOU KNOW, WOULD 2278 01:10:51,981 --> 01:10:54,116 WANT TO BE FLEXIBLE UNDER THE 2279 01:10:54,116 --> 01:10:54,984 WRITTEN AGREEMENT THAT. THE 2280 01:10:54,984 --> 01:10:56,552 WRITTEN AGREEMENT CAN ALSO BE A 2281 01:10:56,552 --> 01:10:57,653 PRINTED DOCUMENT. IT COULD BE AN 2282 01:10:57,653 --> 01:11:01,690 EMAIL, IT COULD BE TEXT MESSAGES 2283 01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:03,158 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT 2284 01:11:03,158 --> 01:11:03,759 WE'VE ALSO SEEN UNDER THE 2285 01:11:03,759 --> 01:11:05,327 SEATTLE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR 2286 01:11:05,327 --> 01:11:08,030 PROTECTION, WHERE THEIR WRITTEN 2287 01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:09,932 AGREEMENTS CAN ALSO BE FORMS OF 2288 01:11:09,932 --> 01:11:13,636 TEXTS. SO AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE 2289 01:11:13,636 --> 01:11:16,138 AS ACCESSIBLE FOR COMPLIANCE AND 2290 01:11:16,138 --> 01:11:17,406 FOR UNDERSTANDING THEIR RIGHTS 2291 01:11:17,406 --> 01:11:19,742 FOR UNDER THIS LAW, ALTHOUGH 2292 01:11:19,742 --> 01:11:21,310 THEY DO NOT NEED TO USE OUR 2293 01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:23,078 TEMPLATE, WE ARE GOING TO CREATE 2294 01:11:23,078 --> 01:11:24,947 A TEMPLATE. SHOULD THESE 2295 01:11:24,947 --> 01:11:26,749 AMENDMENTS PASS, JUST TO MAKE 2296 01:11:26,749 --> 01:11:28,384 SURE THAT IF IF DOMESTIC WORKERS 2297 01:11:28,384 --> 01:11:30,919 OR HIGHER ENTITY WANT TO USE OUR 2298 01:11:30,919 --> 01:11:31,520 TEMPLATES OR ENSURE THAT THEY 2299 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:37,059 ARE COMPLETING IT AS REQUIRED, 2300 01:11:37,059 --> 01:11:40,896 THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THE 2301 01:11:40,896 --> 01:11:44,633 NEXT PIECE IS OUR ENFORCEMENT 2302 01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:46,802 CODE. THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES 2303 01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:47,836 ADDING A TABLE THAT AGAIN, IS 2304 01:11:47,836 --> 01:11:49,772 CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR LABOR 2305 01:11:49,772 --> 01:11:52,141 STANDARDS TO INCLUDE FINES BY 2306 01:11:52,141 --> 01:11:56,111 VIOLATION. IT'S A WAY TO 2307 01:11:56,111 --> 01:11:56,712 CLEARLY COMMUNICATE WHAT THE 2308 01:11:56,712 --> 01:11:59,581 FINES MAY BE TO ENCOURAGE 2309 01:11:59,581 --> 01:12:02,484 COMPLIANCE AND AS STANDARD WITH 2310 01:12:02,484 --> 01:12:04,053 ALL OF OUR OTHER ORDINANCES, WE 2311 01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:05,387 DO ADJUST THEM ANNUALLY. AND 2312 01:12:05,387 --> 01:12:07,523 WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING READY TO 2313 01:12:07,523 --> 01:12:08,357 DO THAT AS WE TYPICALLY ANNOUNCE 2314 01:12:08,357 --> 01:12:11,126 THE NEW MINIMUM WAGE AND FINES 2315 01:12:11,126 --> 01:12:13,595 AND PENALTIES ADJUSTMENT IN THE 2316 01:12:13,595 --> 01:12:18,734 FALL SO I DO WANT TO TAKE SOME 2317 01:12:18,734 --> 01:12:20,436 TIME HERE TO DISCUSS THE 2318 01:12:20,436 --> 01:12:22,971 INTERACTION BETWEEN THE LOCAL 2319 01:12:22,971 --> 01:12:23,972 LAW AS IS AND WITH AMENDMENTS, 2320 01:12:23,972 --> 01:12:28,644 SHOULD IT PASS WITH THE STATE. 2321 01:12:28,644 --> 01:12:31,046 THE STATE. THERE ARE SOME KEY 2322 01:12:31,046 --> 01:12:32,915 DISTINCTIONS. WE ARE PROPOSING 2323 01:12:32,915 --> 01:12:34,583 THESE AMENDMENTS IN THE SPIRIT 2324 01:12:34,583 --> 01:12:35,217 OF HARMONIZATION AND ALIGNMENT, 2325 01:12:35,217 --> 01:12:37,619 AS MUCH AS WE CAN, TO HAVE 2326 01:12:37,619 --> 01:12:38,787 CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT. HOWEVER, 2327 01:12:38,787 --> 01:12:42,524 AT THE STATE LEVEL, THEY DO HAVE 2328 01:12:42,524 --> 01:12:44,326 A COVERAGE THRESHOLD IN ORDER TO 2329 01:12:44,326 --> 01:12:46,028 BE PROTECTED UNDER THE NEW STATE 2330 01:12:46,028 --> 01:12:46,662 PROTECTIONS, THE DOMESTIC WORKER 2331 01:12:46,662 --> 01:12:47,396 NEEDS TO HAVE WORKED FOR A 2332 01:12:47,396 --> 01:12:49,298 HIGHER ENTITY AT LEAST FOUR 2333 01:12:49,298 --> 01:12:53,602 HOURS A MONTH, SO THERE MAY BE A 2334 01:12:53,602 --> 01:12:54,169 SITUATION WHERE A DOMESTIC 2335 01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:55,471 WORKER MAY NOT BE COVERED UNDER 2336 01:12:55,471 --> 01:12:57,106 STATE PROTECTIONS IN A GIVEN 2337 01:12:57,106 --> 01:13:00,342 MONTH. IF THEY DO NOT MEET THAT 2338 01:13:00,342 --> 01:13:02,945 COVERAGE THRESHOLD. FOR THAT, WE 2339 01:13:02,945 --> 01:13:05,647 FEEL STRONGLY THAT THESE 2340 01:13:05,647 --> 01:13:07,549 AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE PASSED AT 2341 01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:08,917 SEATTLE SO THAT IF A WORKER IS 2342 01:13:08,917 --> 01:13:12,354 NOT COVERED UNDER THE STATE LAW, 2343 01:13:12,354 --> 01:13:14,523 THEY MAY STILL HAVE THESE THE 2344 01:13:14,523 --> 01:13:15,057 SIMILAR PROTECTIONS UNDER 2345 01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:16,291 SEATTLE LAW, AS WE ARE NOT 2346 01:13:16,291 --> 01:13:18,394 PROPOSING ANY COVERAGE THRESHOLD 2347 01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:21,029 TO BE COVERED UNDER THE SEATTLE 2348 01:13:21,029 --> 01:13:23,699 PROTECTIONS. HOWEVER, BOTH OUR 2349 01:13:23,699 --> 01:13:26,502 EXISTING LAW AND THE STATE LAW 2350 01:13:26,502 --> 01:13:27,903 EXCLUDES CASUAL LABOR, AND WE DO 2351 01:13:27,903 --> 01:13:29,404 DEFINE WHAT WE MEAN BY CASUAL 2352 01:13:29,404 --> 01:13:33,642 LABOR. SO IF THE AMENDMENTS ARE 2353 01:13:33,642 --> 01:13:35,711 PASSED, WE. OUR OFFICE OF LABOR 2354 01:13:35,711 --> 01:13:38,213 STANDARDS WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE THE 2355 01:13:38,213 --> 01:13:41,150 LOCAL ENFORCEMENT. WE ALSO HAVE 2356 01:13:41,150 --> 01:13:42,518 A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION, AND 2357 01:13:42,518 --> 01:13:44,820 WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR FUNDED 2358 01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:47,456 BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS 2359 01:13:47,456 --> 01:13:49,725 TO HELP NOT ONLY PROVIDE 2360 01:13:49,725 --> 01:13:50,359 EDUCATION AND INFORMATION ABOUT 2361 01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:54,296 THESE NEW LAWS, BUT AS WELL CAN 2362 01:13:54,296 --> 01:13:58,200 CAN HELP AND ADDRESS ANY ALLEGED 2363 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,069 VIOLATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL. 2364 01:14:01,069 --> 01:14:02,671 THE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT IS 2365 01:14:02,671 --> 01:14:04,306 THE LABOR OF INDUSTRY OR LNI, 2366 01:14:04,306 --> 01:14:05,908 AND THEY ALSO HAVE A PRIVATE 2367 01:14:05,908 --> 01:14:11,847 RIGHT OF ACTION. SO THE LAST 2368 01:14:11,847 --> 01:14:14,183 SLIDE HERE JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE 2369 01:14:14,183 --> 01:14:17,653 INTERACTION BETWEEN THE STATE 2370 01:14:17,653 --> 01:14:19,354 AND THE LOCAL LAW AND WHETHER OR 2371 01:14:19,354 --> 01:14:21,390 NOT THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE 2372 01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:23,325 MORE EXPANSIVE THAN THE STATE OR 2373 01:14:23,325 --> 01:14:25,828 WILL BE CONSISTENT OR ALIGNED 2374 01:14:25,828 --> 01:14:27,896 WITH THE STATE. THERE ARE A 2375 01:14:27,896 --> 01:14:29,398 COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE IT 2376 01:14:29,398 --> 01:14:31,567 DOES NOT APPLY, AS THERE IS NO 2377 01:14:31,567 --> 01:14:33,502 EQUIVALENT AT THE STATE LEVEL. 2378 01:14:33,502 --> 01:14:35,037 SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE 2379 01:14:35,037 --> 01:14:36,572 AMENDMENTS HERE TODAY FOR THE 2380 01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:38,874 WRITTEN AGREEMENTS IS MORE 2381 01:14:38,874 --> 01:14:40,509 EXPANSIVE THAN THE STATES. THE 2382 01:14:40,509 --> 01:14:46,415 STATES ONLY REQUIRES THE RATE OF 2383 01:14:46,415 --> 01:14:47,049 PAY AND HOURS TO BE INCLUDED IN 2384 01:14:47,049 --> 01:14:48,617 THE WRITTEN AGREEMENT THE HIRING 2385 01:14:48,617 --> 01:14:50,953 ENTITY RECORDS EXPANDS OR ALIGNS 2386 01:14:50,953 --> 01:14:52,421 DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY DECIDE. 2387 01:14:52,421 --> 01:14:55,657 UNDER THE WRITTEN AGREEMENT, AND 2388 01:14:55,657 --> 01:14:57,960 WE WOULD ALSO BE ALIGNING WITH 2389 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,295 THE STATE ON ADVANCE NOTICE OF 2390 01:15:00,295 --> 01:15:04,600 TERMINATION THAT CONCLUDES MY 2391 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,568 PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU, AND 2392 01:15:06,568 --> 01:15:10,506 HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS 2393 01:15:10,506 --> 01:15:11,073 -- [APPLAUSE] 2394 01:15:11,073 --> 01:15:13,675 -- THANK YOU. DEANNA. I DO WANT 2395 01:15:13,675 --> 01:15:15,010 TO JUST NOTE ALSO, FOR THE 2396 01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:17,613 RECORD ATTACHED TO TODAY'S 2397 01:15:17,613 --> 01:15:18,347 COMMITTEE AGENDA, WE ALSO HAD A 2398 01:15:18,347 --> 01:15:20,082 CENTRAL STAFF MEMO. SO I DO WANT 2399 01:15:20,082 --> 01:15:21,250 TO INVITE OUR CENTRAL STAFFER AT 2400 01:15:21,250 --> 01:15:22,551 THE TABLE. KARINA, IF THERE'S 2401 01:15:22,551 --> 01:15:24,653 ANYTHING ADDITIONAL YOU'D LIKE 2402 01:15:24,653 --> 01:15:25,153 TO ADD. 2403 01:15:25,153 --> 01:15:27,623 -- THANK YOU. SO THE CENTRAL 2404 01:15:27,623 --> 01:15:29,157 STAFF MEMO ALSO PROVIDES AN 2405 01:15:29,157 --> 01:15:31,159 OVERVIEW TO COMPLEMENT OFFICE OF 2406 01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:33,195 LABOR STANDARDS OVERVIEW. AND IT 2407 01:15:33,195 --> 01:15:35,764 DOES PRESENT TWO POLICY 2408 01:15:35,764 --> 01:15:38,567 CONSIDERATIONS FOR COMMITTEE 2409 01:15:38,567 --> 01:15:39,234 MEMBERS AND COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, 2410 01:15:39,234 --> 01:15:40,702 AND ONE OF THEM IS IN REGARDS TO 2411 01:15:40,702 --> 01:15:43,238 PAYMENT DISCLOSURES. PAYMENT 2412 01:15:43,238 --> 01:15:45,974 DISCLOSURE IS AN ITEMIZED 2413 01:15:45,974 --> 01:15:47,876 STATEMENT THAT BREAKS DOWN A 2414 01:15:47,876 --> 01:15:49,344 WORKER'S EARNINGS EVERY TIME 2415 01:15:49,344 --> 01:15:51,947 THEY ARE PAID. IT'S SOMETHING 2416 01:15:51,947 --> 01:15:52,981 THAT'S STANDARD FOR EMPLOYEES 2417 01:15:52,981 --> 01:15:55,484 UNDER STATE LAW. UNDER LOCAL 2418 01:15:55,484 --> 01:15:57,686 LAW, IT'S ALSO PRESENT IN THE 2419 01:15:57,686 --> 01:16:00,589 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR 2420 01:16:00,589 --> 01:16:01,123 PROTECTORS ORDINANCE FOR 2421 01:16:01,123 --> 01:16:02,791 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS WHO WORK 2422 01:16:02,791 --> 01:16:04,059 FOR COMMERCIAL HIRING ENTITIES, 2423 01:16:04,059 --> 01:16:06,428 AND ALSO FOR APP BASED WORKERS 2424 01:16:06,428 --> 01:16:07,429 THAT ARE COVERED BY THE MINIMUM 2425 01:16:07,429 --> 01:16:09,197 PAYMENT LAW. SO THOSE IN THE 2426 01:16:09,197 --> 01:16:10,966 DOMESTIC WORKER CONTEXT, THAT 2427 01:16:10,966 --> 01:16:14,603 MIGHT BE DOMESTIC WORKERS 2428 01:16:14,603 --> 01:16:17,406 WORKING FOR HANDY. IS THAT 2429 01:16:17,406 --> 01:16:21,343 RIGHT? LOOKING AT OLS FOR THAT. 2430 01:16:21,343 --> 01:16:22,878 HOWEVER, FOR DOMESTIC WORKERS 2431 01:16:22,878 --> 01:16:24,546 WHO WERE HIRED AS INDEPENDENT 2432 01:16:24,546 --> 01:16:25,213 CONTRACTORS THAT AREN'T COVERED 2433 01:16:25,213 --> 01:16:28,483 BY ANY OF THOSE LAWS, THEY DO 2434 01:16:28,483 --> 01:16:30,519 NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE PAYMENT 2435 01:16:30,519 --> 01:16:32,621 DISCLOSURES AS THIS IS CURRENTLY 2436 01:16:32,621 --> 01:16:34,456 WRITTEN. PAYMENT DISCLOSURES ARE 2437 01:16:34,456 --> 01:16:38,860 CONSIDERED AS ONE OF THE THREE 2438 01:16:38,860 --> 01:16:41,096 CORE TREND TRANSPARENCY AND FAIR 2439 01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:41,964 PAY MEASURES THAT ARE IN ALL OF 2440 01:16:41,964 --> 01:16:46,134 THESE LAWS. THAT WOULD BE NOTICE 2441 01:16:46,134 --> 01:16:48,537 OF INFORMATION BEFORE YOU'RE 2442 01:16:48,537 --> 01:16:50,205 HIRED. THE PAYMENT OF FULL PAY 2443 01:16:50,205 --> 01:16:52,374 ON A TIMELY BASIS. AND THEN 2444 01:16:52,374 --> 01:16:53,809 THESE PAYMENT DISCLOSURES. SO 2445 01:16:53,809 --> 01:16:55,944 TWO OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN THIS 2446 01:16:55,944 --> 01:16:56,878 ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. AND THE 2447 01:16:56,878 --> 01:16:57,913 PAYMENT DISCLOSURES ARE NOT. SO 2448 01:16:57,913 --> 01:17:00,215 THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO 2449 01:17:00,215 --> 01:17:03,051 CONSIDER EITHER. ADDING TO THIS 2450 01:17:03,051 --> 01:17:04,820 LEGISLATION OR ASKING OLS TO 2451 01:17:04,820 --> 01:17:05,854 RESEARCH, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE 2452 01:17:05,854 --> 01:17:07,422 AN IMPACT ON HIRING ENTITIES. 2453 01:17:07,422 --> 01:17:09,358 THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT 2454 01:17:09,358 --> 01:17:11,326 THEY WOULD NEED TO DO EVERY TIME 2455 01:17:11,326 --> 01:17:13,128 THAT THEY PAID. A DOMESTIC 2456 01:17:13,128 --> 01:17:14,896 WORKER HIRED AS AN INDEPENDENT 2457 01:17:14,896 --> 01:17:16,765 CONTRACTOR. THE NEXT IS OUTREACH 2458 01:17:16,765 --> 01:17:19,468 AND OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS 2459 01:17:19,468 --> 01:17:22,004 HAS ESTIMATED THAT THE COST OF 2460 01:17:22,004 --> 01:17:22,604 IMPLEMENTING THIS LEGISLATION 2461 01:17:22,604 --> 01:17:25,040 WOULD BE ABOUT $9,000 FOR 2462 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,142 OUTREACH OR FOR RULEMAKING 2463 01:17:27,142 --> 01:17:28,977 EXPENSES, AND THAT WOULD COVER 2464 01:17:28,977 --> 01:17:31,113 LANGUAGE ACCESS NEEDS, 2465 01:17:31,113 --> 01:17:32,547 INTERPRETATION, TRANSLATION, AND 2466 01:17:32,547 --> 01:17:35,283 ALSO SOME STAKEHOLDER 2467 01:17:35,283 --> 01:17:37,586 COMPENSATION FOR THAT PROCESS. 2468 01:17:37,586 --> 01:17:40,589 OUTREACH IS THE IS A CRITICAL 2469 01:17:40,589 --> 01:17:42,791 COMPONENT TO THE CITY'S LAWS 2470 01:17:42,791 --> 01:17:45,360 AND THE THAT ESTIMATED COST 2471 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,263 WOULD NOT COVER THE COST TO 2472 01:17:48,263 --> 01:17:50,298 REVISE AND FURTHER DISTRIBUTE 2473 01:17:50,298 --> 01:17:51,099 THE OUTREACH MATERIALS. THERE 2474 01:17:51,099 --> 01:17:53,035 ARE A GOOD NUMBER OF OUTREACH 2475 01:17:53,035 --> 01:17:54,503 MATERIALS THAT. OFFICE OF LABOR 2476 01:17:54,503 --> 01:17:56,705 STANDARDS HAS ALREADY CREATED 2477 01:17:56,705 --> 01:17:59,307 VIDEOS, TEMPLATES, ET CETERA. 2478 01:17:59,307 --> 01:18:01,777 INTO. TO HAVE THOSE REFLECT THE 2479 01:18:01,777 --> 01:18:04,680 AMENDMENTS THEY WOULD NEED TO BE 2480 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,182 REVISED AND THE VIDEOS JUST TO 2481 01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:08,750 PROMOTE AWARENESS HERE. THEY. 2482 01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:10,819 THEY ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL. THEY 2483 01:18:10,819 --> 01:18:13,355 ARE WRITTEN IN IN PLAIN LANGUAGE 2484 01:18:13,355 --> 01:18:15,457 AND THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM 2485 01:18:15,457 --> 01:18:17,793 INCREASED VIEWERSHIP. SO IF 2486 01:18:17,793 --> 01:18:19,127 THERE'S WAYS TO INCREASE THE 2487 01:18:19,127 --> 01:18:20,529 KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE VIDEOS, THEN 2488 01:18:20,529 --> 01:18:21,897 MORE PEOPLE WILL KNOW ABOUT THE 2489 01:18:21,897 --> 01:18:25,867 RIGHTS AND THE OBLIGATIONS IN 2490 01:18:25,867 --> 01:18:28,036 THESE ORDINANCES. SO OUTREACH 2491 01:18:28,036 --> 01:18:28,603 APPROPRIATIONS FOR OUTREACH 2492 01:18:28,603 --> 01:18:29,638 MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL 2493 01:18:29,638 --> 01:18:31,139 MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER 2494 01:18:31,139 --> 01:18:34,009 POTENTIALLY FOR THE 27, 2027 2495 01:18:34,009 --> 01:18:36,645 PROPOSED BUDGET. 2496 01:18:36,645 --> 01:18:38,447 -- THANK YOU FOR LAYING OUT 2497 01:18:38,447 --> 01:18:39,147 THOSE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, 2498 01:18:39,147 --> 01:18:41,349 KARINA. AND THANK YOU FOR THE 2499 01:18:41,349 --> 01:18:42,217 PRESENTATION TODAY, COLLEAGUES. 2500 01:18:42,217 --> 01:18:44,219 I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FIRST TO 2501 01:18:44,219 --> 01:18:45,720 YOU ALL FOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU 2502 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,692 HAVE ON THIS ITEM. I'M SEEING A 2503 01:18:50,692 --> 01:18:53,095 HAND FROM VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2504 01:18:53,095 --> 01:18:55,130 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR, AND 2505 01:18:55,130 --> 01:18:56,364 THANK YOU AS ALWAYS TO THE 2506 01:18:56,364 --> 01:18:57,999 FANTASTIC CENTRAL STAFF AND THE 2507 01:18:57,999 --> 01:18:59,668 OLS TEAM AND TO THE DOMESTIC 2508 01:18:59,668 --> 01:19:00,602 WORKER STANDARDS BOARDS FOR YOUR 2509 01:19:00,602 --> 01:19:02,504 SERVICE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE 2510 01:19:02,504 --> 01:19:04,906 YOU. AND I KNOW YOU HAD THIS IN 2511 01:19:04,906 --> 01:19:06,308 COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS YEAR AS 2512 01:19:06,308 --> 01:19:07,109 SORT OF AN OVERVIEW ITEM. SO 2513 01:19:07,109 --> 01:19:08,276 IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK. 2514 01:19:08,276 --> 01:19:10,145 AND THANK YOU FOR THE THE LIST 2515 01:19:10,145 --> 01:19:10,846 AND THE CLARIFICATION IN TERMS 2516 01:19:10,846 --> 01:19:12,848 OF WHAT WRITTEN DISCLOSURE COULD 2517 01:19:12,848 --> 01:19:14,182 MEAN. I KNOW WE HAD A REALLY 2518 01:19:14,182 --> 01:19:15,584 ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. SO 2519 01:19:15,584 --> 01:19:17,185 THIS WAS REALLY GREAT. MY, MY 2520 01:19:17,185 --> 01:19:19,121 QUESTION IS JUST A CLARIFYING 2521 01:19:19,121 --> 01:19:21,056 QUESTION AROUND THE PAYMENT 2522 01:19:21,056 --> 01:19:22,757 DISCLOSURE. AND I'M CURIOUS, IS 2523 01:19:22,757 --> 01:19:26,294 THAT A PART OF THE STATE 2524 01:19:26,294 --> 01:19:27,963 STANDARD CURRENTLY, OR IS THAT 2525 01:19:27,963 --> 01:19:29,164 JUST NOT PART OF ANY OF OUR 2526 01:19:29,164 --> 01:19:31,099 STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO 2527 01:19:31,099 --> 01:19:32,434 DOMESTIC WORKERS? 2528 01:19:32,434 --> 01:19:35,470 -- IT IS NOT PART OF THE STATE 2529 01:19:35,470 --> 01:19:36,638 STANDARD FOR DOMESTIC WORKERS 2530 01:19:36,638 --> 01:19:38,273 WHO WERE HIRED AS INDEPENDENT 2531 01:19:38,273 --> 01:19:40,342 CONTRACTORS. FOR ANY DOMESTIC 2532 01:19:40,342 --> 01:19:41,276 WORKER WHO IS HIRED AS AN 2533 01:19:41,276 --> 01:19:42,110 EMPLOYEE, THEY'RE GOING TO 2534 01:19:42,110 --> 01:19:43,945 ALREADY HAVE RIGHTS TO PAYMENT 2535 01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:46,348 DISCLOSURE UNDER STATE LAW AND 2536 01:19:46,348 --> 01:19:48,917 UNDER THE CITY'S WAGE THEFT 2537 01:19:48,917 --> 01:19:49,217 ORDINANCE. 2538 01:19:49,217 --> 01:19:51,286 -- THANK YOU FOR THAT 2539 01:19:51,286 --> 01:19:53,388 CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. 2540 01:19:53,388 --> 01:19:57,192 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 2541 01:19:57,192 --> 01:19:59,427 I'M NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL 2542 01:19:59,427 --> 01:20:00,095 HANDS. COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE'VE 2543 01:20:00,095 --> 01:20:02,364 HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS NOW 2544 01:20:02,364 --> 01:20:05,367 ON DOMESTIC WORKERS ORDINANCE 2545 01:20:05,367 --> 01:20:06,701 THROUGH BOTH THE STANDARDS BOARD 2546 01:20:06,701 --> 01:20:08,637 AS WELL AS PRIOR BRIEFINGS ON 2547 01:20:08,637 --> 01:20:12,607 THIS TOPIC. I WILL ASK JUST ONE 2548 01:20:12,607 --> 01:20:13,608 QUESTION, MAYBE TO ROUND US OUT. 2549 01:20:13,608 --> 01:20:15,110 LIKE IF MY COLLEAGUES, ANOTHER 2550 01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:16,111 MOMENT TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT THIS 2551 01:20:16,111 --> 01:20:20,515 A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I WANTED 2552 01:20:20,515 --> 01:20:22,584 TO ASK JUST AS A CLARIFYING 2553 01:20:22,584 --> 01:20:24,886 POINT, HOW DOES OLS HANDLE 2554 01:20:24,886 --> 01:20:26,655 SITUATIONS WHERE DOMESTIC 2555 01:20:26,655 --> 01:20:27,522 WORKERS ARE ASKING QUESTIONS OR 2556 01:20:27,522 --> 01:20:29,925 REPORTING POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS, 2557 01:20:29,925 --> 01:20:31,526 BUT NOT TO OLS TO FILE A CLAIM? 2558 01:20:31,526 --> 01:20:34,529 ARE THERE OTHER WAYS OLS CAN 2559 01:20:34,529 --> 01:20:36,164 INTERVENE TO HELP WORKERS AND 2560 01:20:36,164 --> 01:20:36,798 EMPLOYERS THAT DO NOT RISE TO 2561 01:20:36,798 --> 01:20:40,769 THE LEVEL OF AN OFFICIAL 2562 01:20:40,769 --> 01:20:41,136 INVESTIGATION? 2563 01:20:41,136 --> 01:20:43,138 -- YEAH, THERE WE HAVE A NETWORK 2564 01:20:43,138 --> 01:20:44,840 OF PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH 2565 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,208 WHO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND 2566 01:20:46,208 --> 01:20:47,209 COMMUNITY, AND OFTEN AS PART OF 2567 01:20:47,209 --> 01:20:49,845 THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE 2568 01:20:49,845 --> 01:20:50,946 PROVIDING INFORMATION BACK TO 2569 01:20:50,946 --> 01:20:53,248 THE WORKER ABOUT WHAT IS WHAT 2570 01:20:53,248 --> 01:20:54,449 THEY CAN EXPECT. IT GIVES THE 2571 01:20:54,449 --> 01:20:55,951 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WORKER TO 2572 01:20:55,951 --> 01:20:56,885 ADVOCATE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, 2573 01:20:56,885 --> 01:21:00,388 ON THEIR OWN. IT ALSO, IF IT 2574 01:21:00,388 --> 01:21:01,856 INVOLVES AN EMPLOYER AND WE WANT 2575 01:21:01,856 --> 01:21:03,358 TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE 2576 01:21:03,358 --> 01:21:06,228 OF THEIR BEING IN COMPLIANCE. WE 2577 01:21:06,228 --> 01:21:08,129 DO WORK WITH EMPLOYERS TO LET 2578 01:21:08,129 --> 01:21:09,431 THEM KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE A 2579 01:21:09,431 --> 01:21:10,865 VIOLATION OF THE LAW, AND GIVE 2580 01:21:10,865 --> 01:21:14,169 THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECTIFY 2581 01:21:14,169 --> 01:21:16,271 THE SITUATION IN LIEU OF OPENING 2582 01:21:16,271 --> 01:21:18,273 A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION. 2583 01:21:18,273 --> 01:21:18,907 THAT'S PARTICULARLY SO IF WE 2584 01:21:18,907 --> 01:21:20,175 ONLY HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF 2585 01:21:20,175 --> 01:21:22,210 WORKERS, IF IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL, 2586 01:21:22,210 --> 01:21:23,345 FOR EXAMPLE, WE MIGHT NOT OPEN 2587 01:21:23,345 --> 01:21:25,814 UP A FULL INVESTIGATION. WE WANT 2588 01:21:25,814 --> 01:21:26,481 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORKER'S 2589 01:21:26,481 --> 01:21:30,118 MADE WHOLE AND THAT THE EMPLOYER 2590 01:21:30,118 --> 01:21:30,685 UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE THEIR 2591 01:21:30,685 --> 01:21:31,586 OBLIGATIONS ARE. AND SO WE HAVE 2592 01:21:31,586 --> 01:21:33,521 A MEMBER OF OUR ENFORCEMENT TEAM 2593 01:21:33,521 --> 01:21:35,957 WHO WILL WORK WITH THAT EMPLOYER 2594 01:21:35,957 --> 01:21:40,462 TO HELP THEM GET INTO COMPLIANCE 2595 01:21:40,462 --> 01:21:44,432 -- IF I CAN JUST ADD A COUPLE OF 2596 01:21:44,432 --> 01:21:46,902 OTHER AVENUES IS WE DO PROVIDE 2597 01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:48,236 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON ONE END 2598 01:21:48,236 --> 01:21:50,305 FOR WORKERS. THEY CAN GO TO OUR 2599 01:21:50,305 --> 01:21:52,440 ENFORCEMENT TEAM TO ASK 2600 01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:55,110 CLARIFYING QUESTIONS WITHOUT THE 2601 01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:56,811 FEAR OF POTENTIALLY THIS TURNING 2602 01:21:56,811 --> 01:21:57,445 INTO AN INVESTIGATION. IF THEY 2603 01:21:57,445 --> 01:21:59,948 JUST WANT TO GET MORE 2604 01:21:59,948 --> 01:22:00,982 INFORMATION AS WELL AS ON THE 2605 01:22:00,982 --> 01:22:02,817 OTHER SIDE, THEY CAN. EMPLOYERS 2606 01:22:02,817 --> 01:22:05,420 CAN ASK TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE 2607 01:22:05,420 --> 01:22:07,455 WITH SIMILAR. JUST TO CLARIFY 2608 01:22:07,455 --> 01:22:09,224 WHAT THEIR COMPLIANCE ARE 2609 01:22:09,224 --> 01:22:10,158 WITHOUT THE FEAR OF THAT. WE 2610 01:22:10,158 --> 01:22:11,593 WILL THEN TALK TO OUR 2611 01:22:11,593 --> 01:22:12,927 ENFORCEMENT TEAM TO TURN THAT 2612 01:22:12,927 --> 01:22:14,262 INTO AN INVESTIGATION. WE WANT 2613 01:22:14,262 --> 01:22:15,063 TO TRUST IS IMPORTANT, AND WE 2614 01:22:15,063 --> 01:22:16,197 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY 2615 01:22:16,197 --> 01:22:18,633 UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN COME TO 2616 01:22:18,633 --> 01:22:21,870 US. AND ALSO, THE BOARD PLAYS A 2617 01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:23,538 PIVOTAL ROLE. IT IS INTIMIDATING 2618 01:22:23,538 --> 01:22:24,706 TO COME TO A GOVERNMENT OFFICE, 2619 01:22:24,706 --> 01:22:26,274 EVEN THOUGH WE ARE MAKING 2620 01:22:26,274 --> 01:22:27,542 TREMENDOUS HEADWAY TO BUILD 2621 01:22:27,542 --> 01:22:30,245 TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE 2622 01:22:30,245 --> 01:22:32,213 STILL ULTIMATELY A GOVERNMENT 2623 01:22:32,213 --> 01:22:33,815 AGENCY. AND SO WORKERS DO ATTEND 2624 01:22:33,815 --> 01:22:35,684 BOARD MEETINGS TO ASK 2625 01:22:35,684 --> 01:22:37,285 INFORMATION OR JUST TO 2626 01:22:37,285 --> 01:22:37,852 FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH 2627 01:22:37,852 --> 01:22:38,987 BOARD MEMBERS. AND THEY CAN ALSO 2628 01:22:38,987 --> 01:22:41,690 TALK TO INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS 2629 01:22:41,690 --> 01:22:43,391 WITH FOR MORE INFORMATION. IF 2630 01:22:43,391 --> 01:22:44,693 THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM AN 2631 01:22:44,693 --> 01:22:46,661 ORGANIZATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT 2632 01:22:46,661 --> 01:22:48,563 IS FUNDED THROUGH US OR JUST 2633 01:22:48,563 --> 01:22:49,431 WANTS TO GET TO KNOW THE BOARD A 2634 01:22:49,431 --> 01:22:51,866 BIT BETTER. 2635 01:22:51,866 --> 01:22:53,501 -- IF I COULD ALSO ADD IN THAT 2636 01:22:53,501 --> 01:22:55,303 EARLIER THIS WEEK WE ANNOUNCED 2637 01:22:55,303 --> 01:23:01,309 THE THE, THE CONCLUSION OF OUR 2638 01:23:01,309 --> 01:23:03,611 RFP PROCESS FOR THE 26 TO 28 2639 01:23:03,611 --> 01:23:04,112 BIENNIAL PERIOD FOR OUR 2640 01:23:04,112 --> 01:23:05,947 COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION 2641 01:23:05,947 --> 01:23:07,882 FUND CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY 2642 01:23:07,882 --> 01:23:09,317 PARTNERS THAT DO WORKER 2643 01:23:09,317 --> 01:23:09,951 EDUCATION, AND SEVERAL OF THE 2644 01:23:09,951 --> 01:23:12,654 ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE 2645 01:23:12,654 --> 01:23:13,621 FUNDING SPECIFICALLY ARE BEING 2646 01:23:13,621 --> 01:23:15,857 FUNDED TO, TO DO OUTREACH TO 2647 01:23:15,857 --> 01:23:17,959 WORKERS IN THE DOMESTIC WORKER 2648 01:23:17,959 --> 01:23:19,494 INDUSTRY. AND SO MANY OF THOSE 2649 01:23:19,494 --> 01:23:20,495 ORGANIZATIONS, SOME OF THEM ARE 2650 01:23:20,495 --> 01:23:22,130 KNOWN WELL IN COMMUNITY, LIKE 2651 01:23:22,130 --> 01:23:23,631 CASA LATINA, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE, 2652 01:23:23,631 --> 01:23:25,900 ARE DOING WORK RIGHT NOW AND ON 2653 01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:26,935 AN ONGOING BASIS. THEY HAVE 2654 01:23:26,935 --> 01:23:28,803 STAFF THAT HAVE A TREMENDOUS 2655 01:23:28,803 --> 01:23:29,304 AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND 2656 01:23:29,304 --> 01:23:30,839 AWARENESS. AND SO WE ARE 2657 01:23:30,839 --> 01:23:32,707 FORTUNATE TO HAVE PARTNERS OF 2658 01:23:32,707 --> 01:23:34,709 LONG STANDING WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE 2659 01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:36,277 IN THEIR OFFICES THAT CAN BE IN 2660 01:23:36,277 --> 01:23:38,246 COMMUNITY TO TALK WITH WORKERS 2661 01:23:38,246 --> 01:23:38,980 AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND. AND WE 2662 01:23:38,980 --> 01:23:41,449 ALSO HAVE A LONG TERM 2663 01:23:41,449 --> 01:23:42,083 ARRANGEMENT WITH HAND IN HAND, 2664 01:23:42,083 --> 01:23:45,687 WHICH IS A WELL KNOWN HIRING 2665 01:23:45,687 --> 01:23:46,921 ENTITY, ORGANIZATION. AND THEY 2666 01:23:46,921 --> 01:23:48,256 WORK VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT 2667 01:23:48,256 --> 01:23:50,358 HIRING ENTITIES ARE AWARE OF 2668 01:23:50,358 --> 01:23:51,292 THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE 2669 01:23:51,292 --> 01:23:52,794 ORDINANCE. AND THAT'S BEEN A 2670 01:23:52,794 --> 01:23:53,962 LONG STANDING CONTRACT WITH OUR 2671 01:23:53,962 --> 01:23:55,530 DEPARTMENT AND SUPPORTED BY 2672 01:23:55,530 --> 01:23:57,966 FUNDING FROM OUR DEPARTMENT. 2673 01:23:57,966 --> 01:23:59,467 -- THANK YOU BOTH FOR THOSE 2674 01:23:59,467 --> 01:24:01,536 RESPONSES, COLLEAGUES. I'M NOT 2675 01:24:01,536 --> 01:24:04,406 SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL HANDS, SO 2676 01:24:04,406 --> 01:24:05,740 I'M GOING TO KEEP US ROLLING. 2677 01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:08,676 WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON THIS 2678 01:24:08,676 --> 01:24:09,310 ITEM TODAY. THIS WAS JUST ONE OF 2679 01:24:09,310 --> 01:24:11,980 OUR FIRST BRIEFINGS. NOW THAT WE 2680 01:24:11,980 --> 01:24:12,680 HAVE SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE IN 2681 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,549 FRONT OF US, AN ORDINANCE BEFORE 2682 01:24:14,549 --> 01:24:16,718 US. SO I DO WANT TO NOTE BEFORE 2683 01:24:16,718 --> 01:24:17,352 WE CLOSE OUT THIS ITEM, I WANT 2684 01:24:17,352 --> 01:24:20,188 TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE AGAIN TO 2685 01:24:20,188 --> 01:24:20,822 THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS, 2686 01:24:20,822 --> 01:24:22,924 AS WELL AS THE DOMESTIC WORKER 2687 01:24:22,924 --> 01:24:24,125 STANDARDS BOARD FOR THEIR WORK 2688 01:24:24,125 --> 01:24:25,927 ON THIS, PARTICULARLY LIANNA. 2689 01:24:25,927 --> 01:24:27,996 IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING 2690 01:24:27,996 --> 01:24:29,297 ALONGSIDE YOU AND GREAT 2691 01:24:29,297 --> 01:24:30,665 APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT 2692 01:24:30,665 --> 01:24:32,567 YOU'VE BEEN DOING TO SHAPE THIS 2693 01:24:32,567 --> 01:24:35,069 AMENDED ORDINANCE COMING BEFORE 2694 01:24:35,069 --> 01:24:36,471 COMMITTEE TODAY. THANK YOU. 2695 01:24:36,471 --> 01:24:38,139 -- THANK YOU. AND WE I JUST WANT 2696 01:24:38,139 --> 01:24:39,941 TO SAY WE ALSO HAVE APPRECIATED 2697 01:24:39,941 --> 01:24:42,477 THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH 2698 01:24:42,477 --> 01:24:43,111 YOUR TEAM. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK 2699 01:24:43,111 --> 01:24:44,779 AND DOING THE STAKEHOLDER RING 2700 01:24:44,779 --> 01:24:47,382 AND ALSO SHARING JUST BACKGROUND 2701 01:24:47,382 --> 01:24:48,116 INFORMATION ON THIS. SO 2702 01:24:48,116 --> 01:24:49,217 APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR ASSISTANCE 2703 01:24:49,217 --> 01:24:51,619 AND YOUR TEAM'S ASSISTANCE. 2704 01:24:51,619 --> 01:24:52,754 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 2705 01:24:52,754 --> 01:24:54,656 -- AND WITH KARINA AS WELL. 2706 01:24:54,656 --> 01:24:56,191 -- AND A HUGE THANK YOU, OF 2707 01:24:56,191 --> 01:24:57,659 COURSE, TO KARINA ON CENTRAL 2708 01:24:57,659 --> 01:24:58,660 STAFF FOR HER INCREDIBLE WORK. 2709 01:24:58,660 --> 01:25:01,062 THANK YOU ALL. WONDERFUL. WITH 2710 01:25:01,062 --> 01:25:02,230 THAT, WE'RE GOING TO WRAP ITEM 2711 01:25:02,230 --> 01:25:03,131 ONE, AND I'LL THANK YOU ALL 2712 01:25:03,131 --> 01:25:04,265 AGAIN FOR BEING HERE THIS 2713 01:25:04,265 --> 01:25:05,400 MORNING. AND WE WILL NOW MOVE ON 2714 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,469 TO OUR SECOND ITEM OF BUSINESS. 2715 01:25:07,469 --> 01:25:09,137 WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM 2716 01:25:09,137 --> 01:25:11,406 TWO INTO THE RECORD? 2717 01:25:11,406 --> 01:25:13,842 -- ITEM TWO FAIR PRICING AND 2718 01:25:13,842 --> 01:25:14,476 TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE BRIEFING 2719 01:25:14,476 --> 01:25:16,444 AND DISCUSSION 2720 01:25:16,444 --> 01:25:18,079 -- GREAT. AT THIS POINT, WHILE 2721 01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:19,747 WE'RE IN THIS TRANSITION AND 2722 01:25:19,747 --> 01:25:20,915 BRINGING OUR PRESENTERS UP TO 2723 01:25:20,915 --> 01:25:22,650 THE TABLE, I'D LIKE TO SHARE A 2724 01:25:22,650 --> 01:25:26,187 COUPLE OF WORDS ON THIS DRAFT 2725 01:25:26,187 --> 01:25:28,189 ORDINANCE. SO AFTER MONTHS OF 2726 01:25:28,189 --> 01:25:30,091 EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH LABOR 2727 01:25:30,091 --> 01:25:32,327 AND INDUSTRY PARTNERS, IN 2728 01:25:32,327 --> 01:25:32,894 PARTNERSHIP WITH VICE CHAIR 2729 01:25:32,894 --> 01:25:35,063 FOSTER AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 2730 01:25:35,063 --> 01:25:37,165 AND COLLEAGUES ON COUNCIL, I'M 2731 01:25:37,165 --> 01:25:38,166 REALLY EXCITED TO BE GETTING 2732 01:25:38,166 --> 01:25:40,668 INTO THE WORK OF DISCUSSING THIS 2733 01:25:40,668 --> 01:25:42,704 GROUNDBREAKING LEGISLATION IN 2734 01:25:42,704 --> 01:25:44,038 COMMITTEE TODAY. AND AS WAS ALSO 2735 01:25:44,038 --> 01:25:47,442 NOTED IN PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER, 2736 01:25:47,442 --> 01:25:48,476 LEADING THE NATION AS SOME OF 2737 01:25:48,476 --> 01:25:51,279 THE STRONGEST LEGISLATION 2738 01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:51,913 RELATED TO SURVEILLANCE PRICING 2739 01:25:51,913 --> 01:25:53,915 AT THE RALLY BEFORE COMMITTEE 2740 01:25:53,915 --> 01:25:55,283 AND DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE 2741 01:25:55,283 --> 01:25:56,985 HEARD JUST HOW TIMELY AND 2742 01:25:56,985 --> 01:25:59,053 IMPORTANT THIS POLICY IS. 2743 01:25:59,053 --> 01:26:01,756 GROCERIES ARE GETTING MORE 2744 01:26:01,756 --> 01:26:03,691 EXPENSIVE EVERY FOR EVERY DAY 2745 01:26:03,691 --> 01:26:06,461 SEATTLEITES. WHILE THE BUYING, 2746 01:26:06,461 --> 01:26:09,163 SELLING AND LEVERAGING OF OUR 2747 01:26:09,163 --> 01:26:09,664 PRIVATE INFORMATION TO 2748 01:26:09,664 --> 01:26:11,299 MANIPULATE PRICES IS MAKING BIG 2749 01:26:11,299 --> 01:26:13,701 NATIONAL GROCERY CORPORATIONS 2750 01:26:13,701 --> 01:26:15,703 MILLIONS IN PROFITS, THIS 2751 01:26:15,703 --> 01:26:17,272 LEGISLATION IS INTENDED TO PUT 2752 01:26:17,272 --> 01:26:18,473 SOME GUARDRAILS ON WHAT BIG 2753 01:26:18,473 --> 01:26:19,874 BUSINESSES CAN DO WITH OUR 2754 01:26:19,874 --> 01:26:20,975 PERSONAL INFORMATION. AND AT A 2755 01:26:20,975 --> 01:26:22,510 TIME WHEN SNAP REDUCTIONS HAVE 2756 01:26:22,510 --> 01:26:24,379 ROCKED OUR COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE 2757 01:26:24,379 --> 01:26:27,615 HAVE EVEN LESS TO SPEND ON FOOD, 2758 01:26:27,615 --> 01:26:29,217 I BELIEVE THAT IT IS INCUMBENT 2759 01:26:29,217 --> 01:26:30,919 UPON THE CITY TO USE EVERY TOOL 2760 01:26:30,919 --> 01:26:32,587 IN OUR TOOLBOX AND TAKE THIS 2761 01:26:32,587 --> 01:26:35,223 STEP TO PREVENT AI ASSISTED 2762 01:26:35,223 --> 01:26:37,926 PRICE GOUGING AND ENSURE 2763 01:26:37,926 --> 01:26:38,793 DISCOUNTS ARE FAIR FOR EVERYONE. 2764 01:26:38,793 --> 01:26:41,262 AND BEFORE OUR PRESENTERS GET 2765 01:26:41,262 --> 01:26:42,730 STARTED, I ALSO WANT TO GET ON 2766 01:26:42,730 --> 01:26:44,365 THE RECORD MY DEEPEST 2767 01:26:44,365 --> 01:26:46,434 APPRECIATION FOR THE TEAM BEHIND 2768 01:26:46,434 --> 01:26:49,437 TODAY. SO A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO 2769 01:26:49,437 --> 01:26:50,905 SEJAL PARIKH. EDDIE NOSRATI 2770 01:26:50,905 --> 01:26:54,876 KARAM LEVITAS, SAGE WILSON, 2771 01:26:54,876 --> 01:26:55,443 CHERYL DOUGLAS AND BARBARA 2772 01:26:55,443 --> 01:26:57,478 TALKINGTON. THOSE FOLKS HAVE PUT 2773 01:26:57,478 --> 01:27:00,014 IN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK 2774 01:27:00,014 --> 01:27:01,082 DEVELOPING THIS POLICY, AND I 2775 01:27:01,082 --> 01:27:03,384 APPRECIATE THE MAYOR FOR MAKING 2776 01:27:03,384 --> 01:27:03,952 THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION A 2777 01:27:03,952 --> 01:27:05,920 PRIORITY. I ALSO WANT TO THANK 2778 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,755 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF JASMINE 2779 01:27:07,755 --> 01:27:08,656 MARWAHA, AS WELL AS TOMASSO 2780 01:27:08,656 --> 01:27:10,358 JOHNSON, WHO AREN'T HERE TODAY. 2781 01:27:10,358 --> 01:27:12,160 AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF WITHIN 2782 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,195 MY OWN OFFICE AS WELL. TIM 2783 01:27:14,195 --> 01:27:16,064 LENNON AND KENNY TRAN, WHO HAVE 2784 01:27:16,064 --> 01:27:17,298 CONTRIBUTED TO THIS POLICY AND 2785 01:27:17,298 --> 01:27:20,234 THE WORK TO GET US HERE TODAY. 2786 01:27:20,234 --> 01:27:22,637 AND OF COURSE, EXPRESSING 2787 01:27:22,637 --> 01:27:24,238 SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE 2788 01:27:24,238 --> 01:27:25,840 PARTNERSHIP AND A CO-SPONSOR ON 2789 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:26,808 THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. VICE 2790 01:27:26,808 --> 01:27:27,942 CHAIR FOSTER, THANK YOU TO YOU 2791 01:27:27,942 --> 01:27:30,078 AND YOUR TEAM. ALL RIGHT. AT 2792 01:27:30,078 --> 01:27:31,446 THIS JUNCTURE, I'M GOING TO TURN 2793 01:27:31,446 --> 01:27:33,715 IT OVER TO OUR PRESENTERS TO GO 2794 01:27:33,715 --> 01:27:35,650 INTO IT. SO IF YOU CAN UNMUTE 2795 01:27:35,650 --> 01:27:36,884 YOUR MICROPHONE AND INTRODUCE 2796 01:27:36,884 --> 01:27:38,686 YOURSELF BY STATING YOUR FULL 2797 01:27:38,686 --> 01:27:41,623 NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN 2798 01:27:41,623 --> 01:27:44,959 TAKE IT AWAY. 2799 01:27:44,959 --> 01:27:45,860 -- GOOD MORNING. ALMOST 2800 01:27:45,860 --> 01:27:46,561 AFTERNOON. THANK YOU, 2801 01:27:46,561 --> 01:27:47,195 COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR HAVING US. 2802 01:27:47,195 --> 01:27:48,563 THANK YOU, CHAIR RINCK REALLY 2803 01:27:48,563 --> 01:27:49,197 APPRECIATE THE TIME. MY NAME IS 2804 01:27:49,197 --> 01:27:51,265 KAREN LEVITAS, SENIOR POLICY 2805 01:27:51,265 --> 01:27:53,301 ADVISOR IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. 2806 01:27:53,301 --> 01:27:56,337 AND I SEE BOTH OUR PRESENTERS 2807 01:27:56,337 --> 01:27:57,972 ARE HERE. SO FANTASTIC. WE HAVE 2808 01:27:57,972 --> 01:27:59,007 TWO OUTSIDE EXPERTS WHO ARE 2809 01:27:59,007 --> 01:28:02,343 EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD WHO HAVE 2810 01:28:02,343 --> 01:28:03,845 DEDICATED YEARS OF THEIR LIFE TO 2811 01:28:03,845 --> 01:28:05,747 THIS SUBJECT. SO I'LL JUST PASS 2812 01:28:05,747 --> 01:28:06,648 IT TO THEM BRIEFLY TO INTRODUCE 2813 01:28:06,648 --> 01:28:09,250 THEMSELVES BEFORE GETTING INTO 2814 01:28:09,250 --> 01:28:11,653 OUR MATERIALS I GUESS, LEE, IF 2815 01:28:11,653 --> 01:28:12,353 YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, JUST SINCE 2816 01:28:12,353 --> 01:28:14,489 YOU'RE FIRST IN THE IN THE 2817 01:28:14,489 --> 01:28:15,957 MATERIALS. 2818 01:28:15,957 --> 01:28:17,792 -- SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY 2819 01:28:17,792 --> 01:28:19,160 NAME IS LEE HEPNER. I'M SENIOR 2820 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,029 LEGAL COUNSEL AT THE AMERICAN 2821 01:28:21,029 --> 01:28:23,331 ECONOMIC LIBERTIES PROJECT, 2822 01:28:23,331 --> 01:28:24,932 WHICH IS A NONPROFIT AND 2823 01:28:24,932 --> 01:28:26,834 NONPROFIT, NONPARTISAN RESEARCH 2824 01:28:26,834 --> 01:28:27,468 AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT 2825 01:28:27,468 --> 01:28:28,936 PROMOTES ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE 2826 01:28:28,936 --> 01:28:30,305 FACE OF THE ABUSE OF CORPORATE 2827 01:28:30,305 --> 01:28:32,073 POWER. AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING 2828 01:28:32,073 --> 01:28:33,574 INTO EMERGING PLATFORMS FOR 2829 01:28:33,574 --> 01:28:36,944 SEVERAL YEARS 2830 01:28:36,944 --> 01:28:39,447 -- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 2831 01:28:39,447 --> 01:28:41,315 KATIE WELLS, AND I'M A SENIOR 2832 01:28:41,315 --> 01:28:43,384 FELLOW AT THE AI NOW INSTITUTE, 2833 01:28:43,384 --> 01:28:44,686 WHICH IS A THINK TANK LOCATED IN 2834 01:28:44,686 --> 01:28:46,754 NEW YORK CITY. I AM THRILLED TO 2835 01:28:46,754 --> 01:28:50,291 BE WITH YOU ALL TODAY. 2836 01:28:50,291 --> 01:28:51,693 -- ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU BOTH FOR 2837 01:28:51,693 --> 01:28:53,227 BEING HERE. REALLY APPRECIATE 2838 01:28:53,227 --> 01:28:54,662 YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXPERTISE. 2839 01:28:54,662 --> 01:28:56,331 I'LL PROVIDE JUST A BRIEF 2840 01:28:56,331 --> 01:28:57,999 INTRODUCTION TO THIS LEGISLATION 2841 01:28:57,999 --> 01:29:00,335 BEFORE TURNING IT OVER TO OUR 2842 01:29:00,335 --> 01:29:02,203 EXPERTS TO REVIEW SOME OF THEIR 2843 01:29:02,203 --> 01:29:04,038 WORK. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY 2844 01:29:04,038 --> 01:29:05,239 BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATION IS 2845 01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:06,574 FOCUSED ON AS IT'S AS IT'S 2846 01:29:06,574 --> 01:29:09,644 NAMED, PROVIDING FAIR AND 2847 01:29:09,644 --> 01:29:10,278 TRANSPARENT PRICING FOR GROCERY 2848 01:29:10,278 --> 01:29:13,681 GOODS AND WE'VE SEEN SORT OF IN 2849 01:29:13,681 --> 01:29:14,682 RECENT YEARS AN EXPLOSION IN THE 2850 01:29:14,682 --> 01:29:16,217 TYPE OF DATA THAT'S COLLECTED 2851 01:29:16,217 --> 01:29:17,552 ABOUT US AND HOW THAT DATA IS 2852 01:29:17,552 --> 01:29:19,987 USED IN PRICING ACROSS ACROSS 2853 01:29:19,987 --> 01:29:21,355 THE ECONOMY. SO I THINK WE'VE 2854 01:29:21,355 --> 01:29:23,825 ALL HEARD STORIES OR SEEN SOCIAL 2855 01:29:23,825 --> 01:29:24,392 MEDIA POSTS ABOUT DIFFERENT 2856 01:29:24,392 --> 01:29:25,927 PRICES FOR HOTELS FROM FROM DAY 2857 01:29:25,927 --> 01:29:27,362 TO DAY, DIFFERENT PRICES AT THE 2858 01:29:27,362 --> 01:29:29,497 SAME TIME, IN THE SAME DAY FOR 2859 01:29:29,497 --> 01:29:31,365 DIFFERENT PEOPLE LOGGING IN FROM 2860 01:29:31,365 --> 01:29:33,434 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. SAME WITH 2861 01:29:33,434 --> 01:29:36,671 AIRFARE AND UBER RIDES. AND 2862 01:29:36,671 --> 01:29:37,372 THAT'S CONCERNING ACROSS THE 2863 01:29:37,372 --> 01:29:40,274 BOARD. BUT THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, 2864 01:29:40,274 --> 01:29:41,275 LARGELY DISCRETIONARY SPEND. AND 2865 01:29:41,275 --> 01:29:42,677 IT'S EVEN MORE CONCERNING WHEN 2866 01:29:42,677 --> 01:29:44,645 IT COMES TO ESSENTIAL GOODS AND 2867 01:29:44,645 --> 01:29:47,582 GROCERY ITEMS. AND SO TODAY, 2868 01:29:47,582 --> 01:29:50,284 WHAT WE WHAT RESEARCH SHOWS IS 2869 01:29:50,284 --> 01:29:52,053 THAT GROCERS COLLECT AS MUCH AS 2870 01:29:52,053 --> 01:29:52,553 2000 DATA POINTS ABOUT 2871 01:29:52,553 --> 01:29:55,590 CONSUMERS. THAT INCLUDES 2872 01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:56,124 DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION, 2873 01:29:56,124 --> 01:29:58,092 FINANCIAL DATA LIKE INCOME 2874 01:29:58,092 --> 01:30:00,094 LEVELS AND DEBT, AND YOUR 2875 01:30:00,094 --> 01:30:02,230 INTERACTIONS WITH WITH BROWSERS 2876 01:30:02,230 --> 01:30:04,966 AND SEARCH ENGINES, ET CETERA. 2877 01:30:04,966 --> 01:30:05,500 THAT ALLOWS COMPANIES TO 2878 01:30:05,500 --> 01:30:07,568 IDENTIFY AN INDIVIDUAL'S PAIN 2879 01:30:07,568 --> 01:30:09,003 POINT OR THE MAXIMUM PRICE THAT 2880 01:30:09,003 --> 01:30:10,705 A CONSUMER WILL PAY. AND THE 2881 01:30:10,705 --> 01:30:12,640 IMPACTS ARE BOTH ON CONSUMERS IN 2882 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,509 TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT PRICES 2883 01:30:14,509 --> 01:30:16,210 THAT DIFFERENT CONSUMERS RECEIVE 2884 01:30:16,210 --> 01:30:18,079 FOR THE SAME GOODS. AND THERE 2885 01:30:18,079 --> 01:30:20,515 ARE ALSO IMPACTS ON SMALL AND 2886 01:30:20,515 --> 01:30:21,649 INTERMITTENT INDEPENDENT GROCERS 2887 01:30:21,649 --> 01:30:22,850 WHO ARE NOT ENGAGING IN THESE 2888 01:30:22,850 --> 01:30:24,685 ACTIVITIES. THEY DON'T HAVE THE 2889 01:30:24,685 --> 01:30:26,087 TECHNOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY AND THE 2890 01:30:26,087 --> 01:30:26,687 DATA MINING TO DO IT, BUT 2891 01:30:26,687 --> 01:30:29,123 THEY'RE IN COMPETITION WITH 2892 01:30:29,123 --> 01:30:30,291 LARGER ENTITIES THAT DO SO. 2893 01:30:30,291 --> 01:30:32,326 AGAIN, JUST A HIGH LEVEL 2894 01:30:32,326 --> 01:30:36,297 OVERVIEW OF OF THE OF THE TOPIC 2895 01:30:36,297 --> 01:30:37,832 TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE 2896 01:30:37,832 --> 01:30:40,501 INTRODUCTION TO OUR PRESENTERS 2897 01:30:40,501 --> 01:30:42,770 LEE LEE HEPNER IS A IS A 2898 01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:44,605 CALIFORNIA BASED ANTITRUST 2899 01:30:44,605 --> 01:30:46,307 LAWYER AND SENIOR LEGAL COUNSEL 2900 01:30:46,307 --> 01:30:47,842 AT AMERICAN ECONOMIC LIBERTIES 2901 01:30:47,842 --> 01:30:49,677 PROJECT. HE STARTED HIS CAREER 2902 01:30:49,677 --> 01:30:50,311 IN CIVIL LITIGATION REPRESENTING 2903 01:30:50,311 --> 01:30:51,946 PLAINTIFFS IN LABOR AND FIRST 2904 01:30:51,946 --> 01:30:53,381 AMENDMENT LITIGATION. AND FOR 2905 01:30:53,381 --> 01:30:54,749 THE LAST DECADE, HE HAS WORKED 2906 01:30:54,749 --> 01:30:56,717 IN AND OUT OF GOVERNMENT ON 2907 01:30:56,717 --> 01:30:57,351 POLICIES THAT ADDRESS CORPORATE 2908 01:30:57,351 --> 01:31:00,154 POWER AT THE LOCAL, STATE AND 2909 01:31:00,154 --> 01:31:00,988 FEDERAL LEVEL. AND DR. KATIE 2910 01:31:00,988 --> 01:31:03,558 WELLS IS A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE 2911 01:31:03,558 --> 01:31:05,293 AI NOW INSTITUTE'S INSTITUTE. 2912 01:31:05,293 --> 01:31:06,194 SHE WRITES ABOUT HOW TECHNOLOGY 2913 01:31:06,194 --> 01:31:08,062 AFFECTS THE WAY WE LIVE IN 2914 01:31:08,062 --> 01:31:09,230 CITIES AND CONDUCTS QUALITATIVE 2915 01:31:09,230 --> 01:31:11,199 RESEARCH PROJECTS ABOUT THE GIG 2916 01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:12,133 ECONOMY. IN 2025, DR. WELLS LED 2917 01:31:12,133 --> 01:31:14,068 A STUDY ABOUT THE PRICING 2918 01:31:14,068 --> 01:31:16,237 EXPERIMENTS OF INSTACART, WHICH 2919 01:31:16,237 --> 01:31:16,871 ENGENDERED AN INVESTIGATION BY 2920 01:31:16,871 --> 01:31:17,638 THE FTC AND THE NEW YORK 2921 01:31:17,638 --> 01:31:18,973 ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND SHE'LL 2922 01:31:18,973 --> 01:31:19,607 SHARE A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT IN 2923 01:31:19,607 --> 01:31:22,176 HER PRESENTATION. A QUICK 2924 01:31:22,176 --> 01:31:23,945 HIGHLIGHT OF OUR PRESENTATION 2925 01:31:23,945 --> 01:31:27,982 TODAY, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING 2926 01:31:27,982 --> 01:31:29,317 ALGORITHMIC PRICE DISCRIMINATION 2927 01:31:29,317 --> 01:31:31,686 BACKGROUND AND SOME OF THE 2928 01:31:31,686 --> 01:31:32,320 POLICY INTERVENTIONS AROUND THE 2929 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:33,421 COUNTRY. DR. WELLS WILL FOCUS ON 2930 01:31:33,421 --> 01:31:34,522 HER RESEARCH AND SOME OF THE 2931 01:31:34,522 --> 01:31:36,824 DEEPER DIVE INFORMATION ON HOW 2932 01:31:36,824 --> 01:31:37,992 THIS TECHNOLOGY WORKS. AND THEN 2933 01:31:37,992 --> 01:31:40,962 I'LL BE PRESENTING THE 2934 01:31:40,962 --> 01:31:41,596 LEGISLATION THAT THE EXECUTIVE 2935 01:31:41,596 --> 01:31:43,531 IS TRANSMITTED. OUR ENGAGEMENT 2936 01:31:43,531 --> 01:31:45,500 PROCESS, THE DETAILED POLICY 2937 01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:47,368 OVERVIEW AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION 2938 01:31:47,368 --> 01:31:49,237 AND ENFORCEMENT. SO WITH THAT 2939 01:31:49,237 --> 01:31:53,674 SAID, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO 2940 01:31:53,674 --> 01:31:53,875 LEE. 2941 01:31:53,875 --> 01:31:56,544 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK 2942 01:31:56,544 --> 01:31:58,045 YOU. CHAIR MERCEDES RINCK AND 2943 01:31:58,045 --> 01:31:59,881 VICE CHAIR FOSTER AND MEMBERS 2944 01:31:59,881 --> 01:32:01,015 FOR TAKING UP THIS ISSUE THIS 2945 01:32:01,015 --> 01:32:02,216 MORNING. I THINK WE CAN PROCEED 2946 01:32:02,216 --> 01:32:05,419 TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OVER THE PAST 2947 01:32:05,419 --> 01:32:10,157 SEVERAL YEARS, I HAVE STUDIED 2948 01:32:10,157 --> 01:32:10,758 EMERGING TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS 2949 01:32:10,758 --> 01:32:12,393 AND SURVEILLANCE PRICING OR THE 2950 01:32:12,393 --> 01:32:15,429 TARGETING OF DISCRIMINATORY 2951 01:32:15,429 --> 01:32:17,598 PRICES AT INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS. 2952 01:32:17,598 --> 01:32:18,199 EVEN NARROW CONSUMER SEGMENTS 2953 01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:20,468 BASED ON THEIR PRIVATE PERSONAL 2954 01:32:20,468 --> 01:32:21,802 INFORMATION. AND I'VE BEEN PART 2955 01:32:21,802 --> 01:32:23,838 OF TEAMS THAT HAVE CRAFTED 2956 01:32:23,838 --> 01:32:26,073 LEGISLATIVE RESPONSES TO THIS 2957 01:32:26,073 --> 01:32:26,707 PHENOMENON, VARIATIONS OF WHICH 2958 01:32:26,707 --> 01:32:28,609 HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED IN DOZENS 2959 01:32:28,609 --> 01:32:29,243 OF JURISDICTIONS AT THE LOCAL, 2960 01:32:29,243 --> 01:32:30,878 STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS, WHICH 2961 01:32:30,878 --> 01:32:33,481 WE'LL TALK ABOUT A BIT TODAY, 2962 01:32:33,481 --> 01:32:34,916 AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE INTRO, 2963 01:32:34,916 --> 01:32:37,451 SURVEILLANCE PRICING IS THE 2964 01:32:37,451 --> 01:32:39,754 TARGETING OF DIFFERENT PRICES AT 2965 01:32:39,754 --> 01:32:40,354 INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS BASED ON 2966 01:32:40,354 --> 01:32:42,423 THEIR PRIVATE PERSONAL 2967 01:32:42,423 --> 01:32:44,225 INFORMATION, EVERYTHING FROM 2968 01:32:44,225 --> 01:32:46,527 YOUR PRECISE LOCATION TO YOUR 2969 01:32:46,527 --> 01:32:47,028 SOCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL 2970 01:32:47,028 --> 01:32:48,563 NETWORKS, YOUR SHOPPING HISTORY, 2971 01:32:48,563 --> 01:32:50,398 YOUR MARITAL STATUS, INFERENCES 2972 01:32:50,398 --> 01:32:52,700 ABOUT YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH AND 2973 01:32:52,700 --> 01:32:54,735 FINANCIAL STATUS, YOUR ONLINE 2974 01:32:54,735 --> 01:32:56,370 BROWSING HABITS, EVEN THE WAY 2975 01:32:56,370 --> 01:32:58,306 YOUR CURSOR MOVES ON YOUR 2976 01:32:58,306 --> 01:32:59,807 COMPUTER SCREEN. ALL OF THIS 2977 01:32:59,807 --> 01:33:02,209 INFORMATION IS BEING USED BY 2978 01:33:02,209 --> 01:33:04,178 TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE DESIGNED 2979 01:33:04,178 --> 01:33:05,579 TO ESTIMATE THE HIGHEST PRICE 2980 01:33:05,579 --> 01:33:06,981 ANY GIVEN CONSUMER IS WILLING TO 2981 01:33:06,981 --> 01:33:10,284 PAY AT ANY GIVEN TIME. THEY 2982 01:33:10,284 --> 01:33:11,953 ACCOMPLISH WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY 2983 01:33:11,953 --> 01:33:14,221 BEEN DESCRIBED AS FIRST DEGREE 2984 01:33:14,221 --> 01:33:14,855 PRICE DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE OF 2985 01:33:14,855 --> 01:33:16,891 THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN THAT 2986 01:33:16,891 --> 01:33:19,293 INDIVIDUALIZED PRICE 2987 01:33:19,293 --> 01:33:20,895 DIFFERENTIATION, OR THAT PRICE 2988 01:33:20,895 --> 01:33:21,495 DISCRIMINATION BASED ON VERY 2989 01:33:21,495 --> 01:33:25,166 NARROW SEGMENTS. IN AN FTC 2990 01:33:25,166 --> 01:33:27,868 REPORT FROM EARLY 2025, YOU SEE 2991 01:33:27,868 --> 01:33:29,637 EXAMPLES WHERE PARENTS NEW 2992 01:33:29,637 --> 01:33:31,572 PARENTS ARE TARGETED WITH HIGHER 2993 01:33:31,572 --> 01:33:32,840 PRICED BABY THERMOMETERS BASED 2994 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,308 ON THE TIME OF DAY THAT THEY ARE 2995 01:33:34,308 --> 01:33:35,710 PURCHASING THEM. SO IF A NEW 2996 01:33:35,710 --> 01:33:37,645 PARENT IS PURCHASING A BABY 2997 01:33:37,645 --> 01:33:38,946 THERMOMETER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2998 01:33:38,946 --> 01:33:40,381 NIGHT, FOR INSTANCE, THE 2999 01:33:40,381 --> 01:33:41,749 RETAILER MAY INFER THAT THEY ARE 3000 01:33:41,749 --> 01:33:43,150 IN A MOMENT OF ACUTE NEED AND 3001 01:33:43,150 --> 01:33:45,086 WILL THEREFORE BE LESS PRICE 3002 01:33:45,086 --> 01:33:46,320 SENSITIVE OR WILLING TO PAY A 3003 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,956 HIGHER PRICE. SO WHAT ECONOMISTS 3004 01:33:48,956 --> 01:33:51,158 HAVE LONG THEORIZED AND 3005 01:33:51,158 --> 01:33:52,193 DESCRIBED AS QUOTE UNQUOTE, 3006 01:33:52,193 --> 01:33:55,096 WILLINGNESS TO PAY PRICING 3007 01:33:55,096 --> 01:33:56,797 DRIFTS REALLY EASILY INTO 3008 01:33:56,797 --> 01:33:58,466 ANALYSIS OF CONSUMER NEED OR 3009 01:33:58,466 --> 01:34:00,701 DESPERATION. AND SO SOME HAVE 3010 01:34:00,701 --> 01:34:02,069 REFERRED TO SURVEILLANCE PRICING 3011 01:34:02,069 --> 01:34:05,239 AS PAIN POINT PRICING OR 3012 01:34:05,239 --> 01:34:07,508 DESPERATION FINANCE. NEXT SLIDE. 3013 01:34:07,508 --> 01:34:10,177 PLEASE. THIS INDIVIDUALIZED FORM 3014 01:34:10,177 --> 01:34:12,947 OF ALGORITHMIC PRICE 3015 01:34:12,947 --> 01:34:13,748 DISCRIMINATION IS INHERENTLY 3016 01:34:13,748 --> 01:34:15,983 UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE. IT 3017 01:34:15,983 --> 01:34:16,884 FUNCTIONS BY VIRTUE OF ERODING 3018 01:34:16,884 --> 01:34:18,753 THE NOTION OF A SHARED PRICE OR 3019 01:34:18,753 --> 01:34:19,787 PREVAILING MARKET PRICE. THAT'S 3020 01:34:19,787 --> 01:34:21,022 THAT'S THE PRICE THAT YOU SEE 3021 01:34:21,022 --> 01:34:23,591 ON THE PRICE TAG IN A GROCERY 3022 01:34:23,591 --> 01:34:25,192 STORE. BUT TO BE CLEAR, NOT ALL 3023 01:34:25,192 --> 01:34:27,061 FORMS OF PRICE DISCRIMINATION 3024 01:34:27,061 --> 01:34:30,498 ARE BAD. HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE 3025 01:34:30,498 --> 01:34:32,033 OFFERED SENIOR DISCOUNTS, 3026 01:34:32,033 --> 01:34:33,901 STUDENT DISCOUNTS, VETERANS 3027 01:34:33,901 --> 01:34:35,936 DISCOUNTS. THOSE ARE ALL FORMS 3028 01:34:35,936 --> 01:34:37,738 OF PRICE DISCRIMINATION. BUT 3029 01:34:37,738 --> 01:34:39,840 UNLIKE THE FIRST DEGREE 3030 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:40,474 DISCRIMINATION OF SURVEILLANCE 3031 01:34:40,474 --> 01:34:41,442 PRICING, THESE QUOTE, UNQUOTE 3032 01:34:41,442 --> 01:34:43,544 THIRD DEGREE FORMS OF 3033 01:34:43,544 --> 01:34:46,514 DISCRIMINATION ARE BASED ON 3034 01:34:46,514 --> 01:34:47,114 PUBLICLY ADVERTISED DISCOUNTS 3035 01:34:47,114 --> 01:34:49,050 AIMED AT BROAD CONSUMER SEGMENTS 3036 01:34:49,050 --> 01:34:51,352 THAT ARE UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD. 3037 01:34:51,352 --> 01:34:52,286 COUPONS ARE ANOTHER FORM OF 3038 01:34:52,286 --> 01:34:54,622 PRICE DISCRIMINATION, AND I COME 3039 01:34:54,622 --> 01:34:56,757 FROM A FAMILY THAT, YOU KNOW, 3040 01:34:56,757 --> 01:34:57,825 CLIPPED COUPONS GROWING UP, AND 3041 01:34:57,825 --> 01:34:58,993 SOMETIMES THAT MEANT, YOU KNOW, 3042 01:34:58,993 --> 01:35:00,361 GETTING A DISCOUNT ON SKIPPY 3043 01:35:00,361 --> 01:35:02,797 PEANUT BUTTER WHERE OTHERWISE WE 3044 01:35:02,797 --> 01:35:04,432 MIGHT HAVE PURCHASED JIF PEANUT 3045 01:35:04,432 --> 01:35:05,599 BUTTER. BUT THOSE AGAIN, THOSE 3046 01:35:05,599 --> 01:35:07,935 ARE BROADLY ADVERTISED DISCOUNTS 3047 01:35:07,935 --> 01:35:09,637 THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL 3048 01:35:09,637 --> 01:35:11,639 CONSUMERS WHO ARE WILLING TO 3049 01:35:11,639 --> 01:35:13,240 CLIP THAT COUPON TO AVAIL 3050 01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:14,108 THEMSELVES OF THAT DISCOUNT OR 3051 01:35:14,108 --> 01:35:16,577 TO TRY A NEW PRODUCT THAT MIGHT 3052 01:35:16,577 --> 01:35:17,178 BE CHEAPER THAN THE ONE THAT 3053 01:35:17,178 --> 01:35:20,081 THEY NORMALLY BUY. SO THE 3054 01:35:20,081 --> 01:35:22,116 PROBLEM HERE THAT WE'RE 3055 01:35:22,116 --> 01:35:22,716 ENCOUNTERING IS THAT CONSUMER 3056 01:35:22,716 --> 01:35:25,786 PROTECTION LAWS EVOLVED DURING 3057 01:35:25,786 --> 01:35:27,488 AN ERA WHEN THE CONDUCT WE ARE 3058 01:35:27,488 --> 01:35:29,090 OBSERVING TODAY WAS THOUGHT TO 3059 01:35:29,090 --> 01:35:30,658 BE IMPOSSIBLE, AND IT REMAINS 3060 01:35:30,658 --> 01:35:32,226 UNCLEAR AT BEST, WHETHER 3061 01:35:32,226 --> 01:35:33,661 CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS CAN BE 3062 01:35:33,661 --> 01:35:36,097 BROUGHT TO BEAR TO CONFRONT 3063 01:35:36,097 --> 01:35:37,331 SURVEILLANCE PRICING. TO BE 3064 01:35:37,331 --> 01:35:38,532 CLEAR, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH 3065 01:35:38,532 --> 01:35:39,934 GROCERS AND IN THEIR WRITTEN 3066 01:35:39,934 --> 01:35:42,002 STATEMENTS SUBMITTED IN OTHER 3067 01:35:42,002 --> 01:35:42,470 JURISDICTIONS, AS WAS 3068 01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:43,771 ARTICULATED IN THE INTRODUCTION 3069 01:35:43,771 --> 01:35:45,172 HERE, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT 3070 01:35:45,172 --> 01:35:46,207 GROCERS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY DO 3071 01:35:46,207 --> 01:35:48,109 NOT ENGAGE IN THESE FORMS OF 3072 01:35:48,109 --> 01:35:49,243 SURVEILLANCE PRICING, AND THIS 3073 01:35:49,243 --> 01:35:51,612 TARGETED, INDIVIDUALIZED 3074 01:35:51,612 --> 01:35:53,013 DISCRIMINATION, AT LEAST NOT AT 3075 01:35:53,013 --> 01:35:54,415 THE STORE LEVEL. BUT IN RECENT 3076 01:35:54,415 --> 01:35:56,917 YEARS, WE'VE SEEN HOW 3077 01:35:56,917 --> 01:36:00,087 INDEPENDENT GROCERS ARE COERCED 3078 01:36:00,087 --> 01:36:00,621 INTO PRICE DISCRIMINATION 3079 01:36:00,621 --> 01:36:02,490 SCHEMES FACILITATED BY ONLINE 3080 01:36:02,490 --> 01:36:03,757 PLATFORMS AND THIRD PARTY 3081 01:36:03,757 --> 01:36:05,626 PRICING SERVICES LIKE INSTACART, 3082 01:36:05,626 --> 01:36:07,761 WHICH WAS THE SUBJECT OF A 3083 01:36:07,761 --> 01:36:08,662 HEADLINE MAKING EXPOSÉ LAST 3084 01:36:08,662 --> 01:36:11,999 YEAR THAT KATIE MAY ADDRESS. 3085 01:36:11,999 --> 01:36:13,968 TODAY, INDEPENDENT GROCERS ARE 3086 01:36:13,968 --> 01:36:16,203 BECOMING DEPENDENT ON FOOD 3087 01:36:16,203 --> 01:36:18,506 DELIVERY PLATFORMS THAT ALSO 3088 01:36:18,506 --> 01:36:21,408 INTERFERE WITH THEIR INDEPENDENT 3089 01:36:21,408 --> 01:36:21,942 PRICING DECISIONS, OR THE 3090 01:36:21,942 --> 01:36:22,476 COMMUNICATION OF FEES AND 3091 01:36:22,476 --> 01:36:23,744 DISCOUNTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE 3092 01:36:23,744 --> 01:36:25,913 TO OFFER. NOW, LARGE CHAINS ARE 3093 01:36:25,913 --> 01:36:28,549 A DIFFERENT STORY. I THINK MOST 3094 01:36:28,549 --> 01:36:29,150 PEOPLE WOULD BE SURPRISED TO 3095 01:36:29,150 --> 01:36:29,950 LEARN, FOR INSTANCE, THAT 3096 01:36:29,950 --> 01:36:31,552 KROGER, ONE OF THE LARGEST 3097 01:36:31,552 --> 01:36:34,522 GROCERY CHAINS IN THE COUNTRY, 3098 01:36:34,522 --> 01:36:36,590 MAKES OVER 35% OF ITS ANNUAL 3099 01:36:36,590 --> 01:36:38,392 REVENUE FROM ITS DATA BROKER 3100 01:36:38,392 --> 01:36:39,326 BUSINESS. SCRAPING AND TRADING 3101 01:36:39,326 --> 01:36:43,130 PERSONAL DATA THAT CAN THEN BE 3102 01:36:43,130 --> 01:36:46,233 USED TO TARGET CONSUMERS WITH 3103 01:36:46,233 --> 01:36:49,303 DISCRIMINATORY PRICES. NEXT 3104 01:36:49,303 --> 01:36:52,239 SLIDE. PLEASE. SO LET'S SEE, 3105 01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:55,776 WHERE AM I AT HERE? OKAY, SO 3106 01:36:55,776 --> 01:36:56,810 TURNING TO THE POLICIES THAT ARE 3107 01:36:56,810 --> 01:36:58,078 PENDING IN SEVERAL STATES. AND 3108 01:36:58,078 --> 01:36:59,480 NOW BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, I WANT 3109 01:36:59,480 --> 01:37:01,916 TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS 3110 01:37:01,916 --> 01:37:06,187 NO PROHIBITION IN THIS POLICY ON 3111 01:37:06,187 --> 01:37:06,820 DISCOUNTS OR LOYALTY PROGRAMS. 3112 01:37:06,820 --> 01:37:07,922 IN PREPARING FOR THIS HEARING, I 3113 01:37:07,922 --> 01:37:12,459 SAW VARIOUS STATEMENTS BY TRADE 3114 01:37:12,459 --> 01:37:13,060 ASSOCIATIONS THAT THIS POLICY 3115 01:37:13,060 --> 01:37:14,461 WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM OFFERING 3116 01:37:14,461 --> 01:37:15,829 DISCOUNTS OR LOYALTY PROGRAMS. 3117 01:37:15,829 --> 01:37:18,632 AND NOW THAT IS CATEGORICALLY 3118 01:37:18,632 --> 01:37:19,333 UNTRUE. I THINK IT IS 3119 01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:21,669 APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COUNCIL, AS 3120 01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:23,871 SEVERAL POLICY MAKERS HAVE DONE 3121 01:37:23,871 --> 01:37:25,306 ACROSS THE COUNTRY, TO 3122 01:37:25,306 --> 01:37:26,740 ARTICULATE THAT THIS LEGISLATION 3123 01:37:26,740 --> 01:37:28,809 IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT CONSUMER 3124 01:37:28,809 --> 01:37:31,445 BENEFITS. IT WOULD PROTECT 3125 01:37:31,445 --> 01:37:32,646 DISCOUNTS FOR SENIORS, STUDENTS, 3126 01:37:32,646 --> 01:37:34,215 VETERANS AND LOW INCOME 3127 01:37:34,215 --> 01:37:36,250 CONSUMERS. IT WOULD PROTECT 3128 01:37:36,250 --> 01:37:37,718 COUPONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN 3129 01:37:37,718 --> 01:37:39,386 YOU ARE BEING ADVERTISED A 3130 01:37:39,386 --> 01:37:40,521 QUOTE, UNQUOTE, GOOD DEAL, THAT 3131 01:37:40,521 --> 01:37:42,156 THAT IS IN FACT A GOOD DEAL AND 3132 01:37:42,156 --> 01:37:44,558 THAT YOU'RE NOT BEING INDUCED 3133 01:37:44,558 --> 01:37:47,895 TO PURCHASE SOMETHING UNDER THE 3134 01:37:47,895 --> 01:37:48,963 FALSE IMPRESSION THAT THAT THIS 3135 01:37:48,963 --> 01:37:51,765 IS SOMETHING THAT IT IS NOT THE 3136 01:37:51,765 --> 01:37:54,301 TERM PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS IS, 3137 01:37:54,301 --> 01:37:58,005 IS A, IS A REALLY CLEVER, I 3138 01:37:58,005 --> 01:37:58,439 THINK, MISNOMER FOR 3139 01:37:58,439 --> 01:37:59,974 INDIVIDUALIZED PRICE 3140 01:37:59,974 --> 01:38:01,809 DISCRIMINATION. WHEN EVERY 3141 01:38:01,809 --> 01:38:03,644 PERSON IN THE MARKETPLACE IS 3142 01:38:03,644 --> 01:38:04,245 OFFERED A DIFFERENT DISCOUNT 3143 01:38:04,245 --> 01:38:04,912 BASED ON THEIR WILLINGNESS TO 3144 01:38:04,912 --> 01:38:07,081 PAY, WE LOSE THE ENTIRE CONCEPT 3145 01:38:07,081 --> 01:38:09,350 OF A PREVAILING PRICE AGAINST 3146 01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:10,818 WHICH THAT PURPORTED DISCOUNT 3147 01:38:10,818 --> 01:38:12,720 CAN BE COMPARED. SO JUST BY WAY 3148 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,723 OF EXAMPLE, IF TEN CONSUMERS ARE 3149 01:38:15,723 --> 01:38:19,093 OFFERED TEN DIFFERENT PRICES 3150 01:38:19,093 --> 01:38:20,594 BETWEEN 10 AND $20 IS THE ONE 3151 01:38:20,594 --> 01:38:22,863 PERSON WHO PAYS $19 RECEIVING A 3152 01:38:22,863 --> 01:38:24,665 DISCOUNT BECAUSE IT'S LOWER 3153 01:38:24,665 --> 01:38:25,933 THAN $20. NOW, I THINK THAT THAT 3154 01:38:25,933 --> 01:38:28,102 PERSON MIGHT BE SURPRISED TO 3155 01:38:28,102 --> 01:38:29,503 KNOW THAT EIGHT OTHER CONSUMERS 3156 01:38:29,503 --> 01:38:30,738 ARE PAYING A LOWER PRICE FOR THE 3157 01:38:30,738 --> 01:38:34,942 SAME GOOD OR SERVICE. AGAIN, YOU 3158 01:38:34,942 --> 01:38:37,211 KNOW, THIS LEGISLATION PROTECTS 3159 01:38:37,211 --> 01:38:37,778 ACCEPTABLE FORMS OF QUOTE, 3160 01:38:37,778 --> 01:38:39,546 UNQUOTE, PRICE DISCRIMINATION, 3161 01:38:39,546 --> 01:38:41,115 PRICE DISCRIMINATION, 3162 01:38:41,115 --> 01:38:41,749 TECHNICALLY PRICE DISCRIMINATION 3163 01:38:41,749 --> 01:38:43,917 THAT HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED AND 3164 01:38:43,917 --> 01:38:45,552 WHICH WERE BROADLY ADVERTISED TO 3165 01:38:45,552 --> 01:38:48,789 THE PUBLIC. THEY WERE ADVERTISED 3166 01:38:48,789 --> 01:38:50,691 PERSISTENT TO TERMS THAT WERE 3167 01:38:50,691 --> 01:38:52,126 CLEARLY DISCLOSED, LIKE THOSE 3168 01:38:52,126 --> 01:38:54,561 EXAMPLES FOR SENIOR OR STUDENT 3169 01:38:54,561 --> 01:38:55,729 OR LOW INCOME DISCOUNTS. AND 3170 01:38:55,729 --> 01:38:57,731 THEN THOSE TERMS WERE EQUALLY 3171 01:38:57,731 --> 01:38:59,266 APPLIED TO CONSUMERS SO THAT 3172 01:38:59,266 --> 01:39:00,301 CONSUMERS COULD BE INFORMED WHEN 3173 01:39:00,301 --> 01:39:01,168 THEY ARE MAKING A DECISION 3174 01:39:01,168 --> 01:39:03,537 WHETHER TO PURCHASE SOMETHING AT 3175 01:39:03,537 --> 01:39:05,439 A DISCOUNTED PRICE. NEXT SLIDE. 3176 01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:09,843 PLEASE. AND SO JUST THIS IS A 3177 01:39:09,843 --> 01:39:10,477 REITERATION OF EVERYTHING THAT 3178 01:39:10,477 --> 01:39:11,745 I'VE BEEN SAYING IN A, IN A 3179 01:39:11,745 --> 01:39:13,280 MORE KIND OF CONCISE FORM. BUT 3180 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,515 THE THREE PILLARS OF FAIR 3181 01:39:14,515 --> 01:39:16,350 PRICING, AS I SEE THEM, ARE 3182 01:39:16,350 --> 01:39:17,952 PREDICTABILITY. YOU KNOW, WHAT 3183 01:39:17,952 --> 01:39:20,020 THE PRICE OF A THING IS GOING TO 3184 01:39:20,020 --> 01:39:21,255 BE. THE PRICE IS RIGHT WAS THE 3185 01:39:21,255 --> 01:39:22,656 LONGEST RUNNING GAME SHOW IN 3186 01:39:22,656 --> 01:39:24,358 AMERICA FOR A REASON. THAT WAS 3187 01:39:24,358 --> 01:39:26,093 BECAUSE THERE WAS A SHARED 3188 01:39:26,093 --> 01:39:27,661 UNDERSTANDING THAT WE THAT WE 3189 01:39:27,661 --> 01:39:30,130 KNOW WHAT SOMETHING SHOULD COST. 3190 01:39:30,130 --> 01:39:32,166 AND WE'VE ORIENTED OUR SOCIETY 3191 01:39:32,166 --> 01:39:33,701 AROUND THAT FUNDAMENTAL PREMISE, 3192 01:39:33,701 --> 01:39:36,970 THAT PREDICTABILITY IN THE 3193 01:39:36,970 --> 01:39:37,771 PRICING TRANSPARENCY, YOU KNOW, 3194 01:39:37,771 --> 01:39:39,340 WHY SOMETHING COSTS THE WAY IT 3195 01:39:39,340 --> 01:39:41,975 COSTS. YOU KNOW, WHY A DISCOUNT 3196 01:39:41,975 --> 01:39:42,976 IS, IS BEING OFFERED. YOU KNOW, 3197 01:39:42,976 --> 01:39:47,181 THAT IT IS IN FACT, LOWER THAN 3198 01:39:47,181 --> 01:39:48,749 THE, THAN THE PRICE THAT IS 3199 01:39:48,749 --> 01:39:49,616 PREVAILING IN THE MARKETPLACE, 3200 01:39:49,616 --> 01:39:52,519 THAT A SUBSTANTIAL SHARE OF THE 3201 01:39:52,519 --> 01:39:53,153 CONSUMERS PAY AND FAIRNESS. YOU 3202 01:39:53,153 --> 01:39:53,988 KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE IS A 3203 01:39:53,988 --> 01:39:55,823 FUNDAMENTAL PART OF SURVEILLANCE 3204 01:39:55,823 --> 01:39:58,559 PRICING THAT ERODES THE 3205 01:39:58,559 --> 01:39:59,093 COMPETITIVE PRESSURE FOR 3206 01:39:59,093 --> 01:40:00,594 GROCERIES, FOR GROCERY STORES 3207 01:40:00,594 --> 01:40:02,663 AND OTHER RETAIL OUTLETS ACROSS 3208 01:40:02,663 --> 01:40:04,765 OUR ECONOMY TO COMPETE FOR 3209 01:40:04,765 --> 01:40:07,034 CONSUMER FAVOR BY HOLDING OUT A 3210 01:40:07,034 --> 01:40:11,171 PRICE TO ALL CONSUMERS. THAT IS 3211 01:40:11,171 --> 01:40:13,574 FAIR AND CONSISTENT AND NOT 3212 01:40:13,574 --> 01:40:15,409 BEING USED OR NOT BEING BASED ON 3213 01:40:15,409 --> 01:40:19,346 A DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICE. NEXT 3214 01:40:19,346 --> 01:40:20,247 SLIDE. PLEASE. SEVERAL STATES, 3215 01:40:20,247 --> 01:40:21,215 AS I HAVE MENTIONED, HAVE BEGUN 3216 01:40:21,215 --> 01:40:23,751 BANNING SURVEILLANCE PRICING 3217 01:40:23,751 --> 01:40:25,686 THAT USES PERSONAL DATA TO 3218 01:40:25,686 --> 01:40:28,822 CHARGE MORE. I WILL NOTE THAT 3219 01:40:28,822 --> 01:40:29,990 THIS SLIDE MAKES REFERENCE TO A 3220 01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:33,627 BILL IN MARYLAND THAT WE 3221 01:40:33,627 --> 01:40:34,828 ACTUALLY ENDED UP OPPOSING 3222 01:40:34,828 --> 01:40:35,429 REALLY STRONGLY, BECAUSE WHAT 3223 01:40:35,429 --> 01:40:39,066 THAT BILL DID WAS IT CREATED 3224 01:40:39,066 --> 01:40:41,435 VERY BROAD, UNDEFINED EXCEPTIONS 3225 01:40:41,435 --> 01:40:43,704 FOR THINGS LIKE LOYALTY, LOYALTY 3226 01:40:43,704 --> 01:40:46,140 PROGRAMS FOR QUOTE, UNQUOTE, 3227 01:40:46,140 --> 01:40:47,841 LOWER PRICES, WHICH CANNOT BE 3228 01:40:47,841 --> 01:40:49,410 DISCERNED IN A IN A MARKETPLACE 3229 01:40:49,410 --> 01:40:52,713 WHERE EVERY PRICE IS DIFFERENT 3230 01:40:52,713 --> 01:40:53,814 FOR PERSONALIZED DISCOUNTS, 3231 01:40:53,814 --> 01:40:55,649 WHICH AGAIN, ARE NOTHING 3232 01:40:55,649 --> 01:40:56,283 DIFFERENT THAN A DISCRIMINATORY 3233 01:40:56,283 --> 01:40:58,118 PRICE SETTING PRACTICE. SO WE 3234 01:40:58,118 --> 01:41:02,489 ENDED UP OPPOSING THAT BILL, BUT 3235 01:41:02,489 --> 01:41:03,090 NEVERTHELESS, THE THE STATES 3236 01:41:03,090 --> 01:41:07,094 HAVE BECOME FACTORIES OF, OF 3237 01:41:07,094 --> 01:41:08,262 INNOVATION ON THIS POLICY. AND I 3238 01:41:08,262 --> 01:41:11,064 WOULD ACTUALLY POINT TO COLORADO 3239 01:41:11,064 --> 01:41:12,666 AS A LEADING EXAMPLE OF A BILL 3240 01:41:12,666 --> 01:41:14,601 THAT REALLY GOT THIS RIGHT AND 3241 01:41:14,601 --> 01:41:15,135 PROTECTING DISCOUNTS AND 3242 01:41:15,135 --> 01:41:16,937 PROTECTING LOYALTY PROGRAMS. AND 3243 01:41:16,937 --> 01:41:19,807 NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS JUST A 3244 01:41:19,807 --> 01:41:20,674 VISUALIZATION. I BELIEVE THIS IS 3245 01:41:20,674 --> 01:41:22,609 OUT OF DATE AT THIS POINT, BUT 3246 01:41:22,609 --> 01:41:24,511 THIS IS FROM A, A WEBSITE THAT 3247 01:41:24,511 --> 01:41:26,880 WE PUT UP CALLED FAIR PRICE 3248 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,749 FIGHT BECAUSE MANY OTHER STATES 3249 01:41:28,749 --> 01:41:31,618 AND CITIES HAVE SINCE INTRODUCED 3250 01:41:31,618 --> 01:41:34,021 POLICIES AIMED AT ADDRESSING 3251 01:41:34,021 --> 01:41:36,056 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING FEDERALLY. 3252 01:41:36,056 --> 01:41:38,559 I'M AWARE OF AT LEAST THREE 3253 01:41:38,559 --> 01:41:41,595 BILLS BY SENATOR GALLEGO, 3254 01:41:41,595 --> 01:41:42,162 REPRESENTATIVE KASSAR, AND 3255 01:41:42,162 --> 01:41:43,363 REPRESENTATIVE TLAIB THAT ALL 3256 01:41:43,363 --> 01:41:45,199 AIM TO ADDRESS SURVEILLANCE 3257 01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:48,068 PRICING. SO SEATTLE WHILE AT THE 3258 01:41:48,068 --> 01:41:49,436 CUTTING EDGE OF THIS POLICY IS 3259 01:41:49,436 --> 01:41:52,272 ALSO IN GOOD COMPANY WITH POLICY 3260 01:41:52,272 --> 01:41:53,273 MAKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO 3261 01:41:53,273 --> 01:41:56,743 ARE RECOGNIZING THE HARMS OF 3262 01:41:56,743 --> 01:41:57,177 PERSONALIZED PRICE 3263 01:41:57,177 --> 01:41:58,145 DISCRIMINATION. AND I'LL 3264 01:41:58,145 --> 01:42:02,449 CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS THERE. 3265 01:42:02,449 --> 01:42:02,883 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 3266 01:42:02,883 --> 01:42:05,319 -- GREAT. THANKS, LEE, AND 3267 01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:07,054 THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THIS 3268 01:42:07,054 --> 01:42:08,622 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS 3269 01:42:08,622 --> 01:42:10,624 UNFAIR PRACTICE AND HOW WE, AS 3270 01:42:10,624 --> 01:42:13,227 RESEARCHERS, HAVE GONE ABOUT 3271 01:42:13,227 --> 01:42:14,795 DOCUMENTING IT. BUT FIRST, I 3272 01:42:14,795 --> 01:42:16,296 WANT TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT HOW I 3273 01:42:16,296 --> 01:42:18,198 ENDED UP GOING DOWN THIS RABBIT 3274 01:42:18,198 --> 01:42:20,601 HOLE OF ALGORITHMIC PRICING 3275 01:42:20,601 --> 01:42:23,003 DISCRIMINATION. IT WAS A TUESDAY 3276 01:42:23,003 --> 01:42:26,406 EVENING. I WILL TELL YOU. 3277 01:42:26,406 --> 01:42:28,442 TUESDAY, MAY 7th OF LAST YEAR, 3278 01:42:28,442 --> 01:42:29,877 AND I WAS DOING WHAT MOST 3279 01:42:29,877 --> 01:42:32,312 PARENTS DO AFTER THEIR KIDS 3280 01:42:32,312 --> 01:42:33,647 FINALLY GO TO BED. I WAS 3281 01:42:33,647 --> 01:42:36,416 SHOPPING ONLINE FOR GROCERIES. 3282 01:42:36,416 --> 01:42:40,487 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. KAREN. ONE OF 3283 01:42:40,487 --> 01:42:44,124 THE ITEMS I OFTEN BUY ONLINE IS 3284 01:42:44,124 --> 01:42:46,660 A SPECIALTY GLUTEN FREE VEGAN 3285 01:42:46,660 --> 01:42:48,896 BANANA BREAD MIX. MY SON HAS 3286 01:42:48,896 --> 01:42:50,430 ALLERGIES TO EGG AND WHEAT AND 3287 01:42:50,430 --> 01:42:54,167 SO THIS MIX IS OFTEN MAGICAL. 3288 01:42:54,167 --> 01:42:55,402 THE PRICE, HOWEVER, IS NOT, AND 3289 01:42:55,402 --> 01:42:59,206 I OFTEN COMPARE HOW MUCH THIS GO 3290 01:42:59,206 --> 01:43:01,008 NANA'S BANANA BREAD MIX COSTS 3291 01:43:01,008 --> 01:43:03,544 AT TARGET, SAFEWAY, WHOLE FOODS 3292 01:43:03,544 --> 01:43:04,978 ON THIS PARTICULAR TUESDAY 3293 01:43:04,978 --> 01:43:06,513 NIGHT. LAST YEAR, I STARTED TO 3294 01:43:06,513 --> 01:43:09,016 PLACE AN ORDER FOR THIS ITEM ON 3295 01:43:09,016 --> 01:43:10,484 MY COMPUTER, BUT I GOT 3296 01:43:10,484 --> 01:43:12,786 DISTRACTED. LIFE HAPPENED AND 3297 01:43:12,786 --> 01:43:14,054 THEN I TRIED TO FINISH UP THE 3298 01:43:14,054 --> 01:43:17,891 ORDER ON MY PHONE, AND HERE WAS 3299 01:43:17,891 --> 01:43:19,560 THE PROBLEM. ON MY COMPUTER, THE 3300 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:24,464 PRICE WAS $8.99. ON MY PHONE, IT 3301 01:43:24,464 --> 01:43:29,436 HAD RAISED TO 9.79. THE PRICE ON 3302 01:43:29,436 --> 01:43:33,774 MY COMPUTER AT THE SAME MOMENT 3303 01:43:33,774 --> 01:43:36,843 WHEN I GOT FRUSTRATED IN 3304 01:43:36,843 --> 01:43:39,646 INCOGNITO MODE WAS 7.99. AS 3305 01:43:39,646 --> 01:43:41,815 SOMEONE WHO HAD SPENT A DECADE 3306 01:43:41,815 --> 01:43:44,484 STUDYING UBER, DOORDASH, AND 3307 01:43:44,484 --> 01:43:44,985 INSTACART AND HOW THOSE 3308 01:43:44,985 --> 01:43:47,854 COMPANIES USE ALGORITHMIC WAGE 3309 01:43:47,854 --> 01:43:49,790 DISCRIMINATION, I SHOULDN'T HAVE 3310 01:43:49,790 --> 01:43:54,061 BEEN SURPRISED, BUT I WAS. AND 3311 01:43:54,061 --> 01:43:56,630 THUS BEGAN A RESEARCH PROJECT 3312 01:43:56,630 --> 01:43:57,464 ABOUT HOW AI POWERED ALGORITHMS 3313 01:43:57,464 --> 01:44:01,034 ALLOW COMPANIES TO CHARGE 3314 01:44:01,034 --> 01:44:02,836 DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS, DIFFERENT 3315 01:44:02,836 --> 01:44:05,105 PRICES FOR THE VERY SAME ITEMS 3316 01:44:05,105 --> 01:44:07,708 AT THE VERY SAME TIME. NEXT 3317 01:44:07,708 --> 01:44:11,411 SLIDE. PLEASE, WITH A TEAM OF 3318 01:44:11,411 --> 01:44:15,248 ALL STAR PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY 3319 01:44:15,248 --> 01:44:17,217 DEREK KRAVITZ, ANGEL HAHN, ALAN 3320 01:44:17,217 --> 01:44:19,186 SMITH AT CONSUMER REPORTS, AND 3321 01:44:19,186 --> 01:44:20,954 ERIC GARDNER AT MORE PERFECT 3322 01:44:20,954 --> 01:44:23,924 UNION. I LED AN INVESTIGATION 3323 01:44:23,924 --> 01:44:26,226 INTO ALGORITHMIC PRICING ON THE 3324 01:44:26,226 --> 01:44:27,694 INSTACART PLATFORM, INCLUDING AT 3325 01:44:27,694 --> 01:44:29,262 THE SEATTLE SAFEWAY, THE ONE 3326 01:44:29,262 --> 01:44:31,732 THAT I'VE LISTED HERE ON 3327 01:44:31,732 --> 01:44:34,234 OTHELLO STREET. WE BROUGHT 3328 01:44:34,234 --> 01:44:36,069 TOGETHER MORE THAN 400 SHOPPERS, 3329 01:44:36,069 --> 01:44:38,538 MOSTLY ONLINE, TO LOOK AT THE 3330 01:44:38,538 --> 01:44:40,474 COST OF 20 ITEMS. WHAT WE FOUND 3331 01:44:40,474 --> 01:44:42,976 WAS A GROCERY PLATFORM SATURATED 3332 01:44:42,976 --> 01:44:48,949 IN ALGORITHMIC PRICING. NEXT 3333 01:44:48,949 --> 01:44:50,550 SLIDE PLEASE. NEARLY 75% OF THE 3334 01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:52,819 ITEMS HAD MULTIPLE PRICES. A 3335 01:44:52,819 --> 01:44:54,588 PACKAGE OF OSCAR MAYER DELI 3336 01:44:54,588 --> 01:44:56,757 TURKEY HAD FIVE DIFFERENT PRICES 3337 01:44:56,757 --> 01:44:58,659 ACROSS OUR SHOPPERS. SAME WITH A 3338 01:44:58,659 --> 01:45:01,161 BOX OF WHEAT THINS. SOME OF THE 3339 01:45:01,161 --> 01:45:05,499 PRICES DIFFERED BY AS MUCH AS 3340 01:45:05,499 --> 01:45:07,134 23%. OUR INVESTIGATION BECAME 3341 01:45:07,134 --> 01:45:08,802 THE SUBJECT OF AN EMMY NOMINATED 3342 01:45:08,802 --> 01:45:10,604 VIDEO BY MORE PERFECT UNION THAT 3343 01:45:10,604 --> 01:45:13,240 I HAVE TAKEN A PICTURE OF HERE, 3344 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:14,408 AND THIS VIDEO HAS AMASSED MORE 3345 01:45:14,408 --> 01:45:16,476 THAN 10 MILLION VIEWS. IT ALSO 3346 01:45:16,476 --> 01:45:19,780 WAS A SUBJECT OF AN AWARD 3347 01:45:19,780 --> 01:45:20,314 WINNING STORY BY CONSUMER 3348 01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:22,783 REPORTS, AND IT GENERATED 3349 01:45:22,783 --> 01:45:24,351 INVESTIGATIONS BY GOVERNMENT 3350 01:45:24,351 --> 01:45:26,453 AUTHORITIES. AS KARA MENTIONED. 3351 01:45:26,453 --> 01:45:29,356 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE OUR FINDINGS 3352 01:45:29,356 --> 01:45:32,559 AND THOSE OF A GROWING BODY OF 3353 01:45:32,559 --> 01:45:34,861 RESEARCH RESONATE WITH SO MANY 3354 01:45:34,861 --> 01:45:36,697 PEOPLE BECAUSE WE STILL, AS A 3355 01:45:36,697 --> 01:45:39,733 SOCIETY, HOWEVER FRACTURED, 3356 01:45:39,733 --> 01:45:43,804 STILL HOLD DEAR A SET OF VALUES 3357 01:45:43,804 --> 01:45:44,371 ABOUT WHAT'S OKAY IN THE 3358 01:45:44,371 --> 01:45:47,607 MARKETPLACE ALGORITHMIC PRICING 3359 01:45:47,607 --> 01:45:49,342 DISCRIMINATION SETS FIRE TO 3360 01:45:49,342 --> 01:45:51,945 THOSE VALUES AND TO THOSE RULES. 3361 01:45:51,945 --> 01:45:54,281 IT FEELS TERRIBLE TO SEE OUR 3362 01:45:54,281 --> 01:45:55,582 VALUES, OUR IDEAS ABOUT 3363 01:45:55,582 --> 01:45:57,050 FAIRNESS, AND OUR COMMITMENTS TO 3364 01:45:57,050 --> 01:46:00,887 THE COMMON GOOD GO UP IN FLAMES. 3365 01:46:00,887 --> 01:46:04,991 NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE. ONE OF THE 3366 01:46:04,991 --> 01:46:07,861 PARTICIPANTS IN OUR INSTACART 3367 01:46:07,861 --> 01:46:08,495 STUDY FROM CONSUMER REPORTS PUT 3368 01:46:08,495 --> 01:46:12,499 IT THIS WAY, ALEX TULLY SAID, 3369 01:46:12,499 --> 01:46:14,134 QUOTE, THEY SAY THERE'S A PRICE 3370 01:46:14,134 --> 01:46:15,836 TO BEING DISABLED OR OLD. AND 3371 01:46:15,836 --> 01:46:18,505 THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE HERE. 3372 01:46:18,505 --> 01:46:20,707 I WORRY THAT ONCE I GET OLDER, I 3373 01:46:20,707 --> 01:46:22,976 WON'T BE ABLE TO FULLY 3374 01:46:22,976 --> 01:46:24,845 APPRECIATE THE PRICE GAMES THEY 3375 01:46:24,845 --> 01:46:28,081 ARE PLAYING. I'LL BE VERY 3376 01:46:28,081 --> 01:46:30,517 VULNERABLE AND THEY WILL 3377 01:46:30,517 --> 01:46:31,318 BASICALLY BE SCREWING ME OUT OF 3378 01:46:31,318 --> 01:46:35,822 MY MONEY. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE. 3379 01:46:35,822 --> 01:46:37,357 RECENTLY I WAS AT MY 3380 01:46:37,357 --> 01:46:39,326 NEIGHBORHOOD SAFEWAY STORE 3381 01:46:39,326 --> 01:46:41,027 PICKING UP PAPER PLATES FOR, I 3382 01:46:41,027 --> 01:46:42,863 THINK IT WAS A BLOCK PARTY. 3383 01:46:42,863 --> 01:46:44,331 OKAY, I PULLED OUT MY SAFEWAY 3384 01:46:44,331 --> 01:46:45,599 APP TO GET THE COUPONS BECAUSE 3385 01:46:45,599 --> 01:46:47,901 THAT'S WHERE COUPONS ARE THESE 3386 01:46:47,901 --> 01:46:49,002 DAYS. AND AN OLDER WOMAN WAS IN 3387 01:46:49,002 --> 01:46:51,705 THE PAPER GOODS AISLE TWO. AND 3388 01:46:51,705 --> 01:46:53,106 SO I WAS NOSY AND I SAID, OH, 3389 01:46:53,106 --> 01:46:55,675 WHAT DO YOU GOT? PRICES FOR 3390 01:46:55,675 --> 01:46:57,210 PAPER PLATES? AND SURE ENOUGH, 3391 01:46:57,210 --> 01:46:58,178 WE LOOKED JUST THIS ONE DAY AND 3392 01:46:58,178 --> 01:47:00,580 WE SHOOK OUR HEADS BECAUSE WHAT 3393 01:47:00,580 --> 01:47:03,950 WE SAW WERE DIFFERENT PRICES 3394 01:47:03,950 --> 01:47:06,286 FROM THE COUPONS, DIFFERENT 3395 01:47:06,286 --> 01:47:07,721 COUPONS. AND HERE WE CAN CUE THE 3396 01:47:07,721 --> 01:47:12,859 LOYALTY TRAP WORK BY SAM LEVINE 3397 01:47:12,859 --> 01:47:14,194 AND STEPHANIE WINN. WE SHOOK OUR 3398 01:47:14,194 --> 01:47:17,631 HEADS AT THE UNFAIRNESS. NEXT 3399 01:47:17,631 --> 01:47:18,732 SLIDE PLEASE. THIS WEEK, AT A 3400 01:47:18,732 --> 01:47:22,202 SENATE HEARING WHERE LEE HEPNER 3401 01:47:22,202 --> 01:47:24,070 TESTIFIED, WE HEARD THAT WALMART 3402 01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:27,774 HAS PATENTS TO CHECK THE HEART 3403 01:47:27,774 --> 01:47:28,408 RATE OF SHOPPERS. AND SOMEONE. 3404 01:47:28,408 --> 01:47:29,609 THIS MORNING IN SEATTLE 3405 01:47:29,609 --> 01:47:31,077 TESTIFIED THAT THEY HAD HEARD 3406 01:47:31,077 --> 01:47:35,749 THAT NEWS. TWO RETAILERS HAVE 3407 01:47:35,749 --> 01:47:38,051 INVESTED HEAVILY TO DEVELOP 3408 01:47:38,051 --> 01:47:38,652 TECHNOLOGY TO DO ALGORITHMIC 3409 01:47:38,652 --> 01:47:39,886 PRICING DISCRIMINATION. THEY'VE 3410 01:47:39,886 --> 01:47:42,088 TOLD THEIR INVESTORS IN THEIR 3411 01:47:42,088 --> 01:47:43,023 STATEMENTS, THEY'VE GOTTEN THE 3412 01:47:43,023 --> 01:47:46,960 PATENTS. THE EVIDENCE IS GROWING 3413 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,128 AND CLEAR. IT'S UP TO US, 3414 01:47:48,128 --> 01:47:50,030 THOUGH, TO SAY NO TO ALGORITHMIC 3415 01:47:50,030 --> 01:47:52,132 PRICING DISCRIMINATION. WE CAN 3416 01:47:52,132 --> 01:47:55,202 AND MUST CHOOSE OTHERWISE. 3417 01:47:55,202 --> 01:47:56,937 ALGORITHMIC PRICING 3418 01:47:56,937 --> 01:47:59,773 DISCRIMINATION IS NOT NOT NOT 3419 01:47:59,773 --> 01:48:00,407 NOT THE INGREDIENT OF A DECENT 3420 01:48:00,407 --> 01:48:08,081 COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. 3421 01:48:08,081 --> 01:48:10,550 -- THANK YOU. LEE AND KATIE. 3422 01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:12,152 I'LL JUMP IN AND I'M GOING TO 3423 01:48:12,152 --> 01:48:13,854 PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE 3424 01:48:13,854 --> 01:48:15,689 POLICY BEFORE WALKING THROUGH IN 3425 01:48:15,689 --> 01:48:17,390 A LOT MORE DETAIL EACH OF THE 3426 01:48:17,390 --> 01:48:18,358 ELEMENTS. AND OF COURSE, PLEASE 3427 01:48:18,358 --> 01:48:22,762 STOP ME AT ANY TIME. SHOULD 3428 01:48:22,762 --> 01:48:26,132 SHOULD ANY OF IT ENGENDER AN 3429 01:48:26,132 --> 01:48:26,766 ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. SO AT A 3430 01:48:26,766 --> 01:48:30,337 HIGH LEVEL, THE POLICY PROPOSAL 3431 01:48:30,337 --> 01:48:30,971 THAT THAT WE'VE TRANSMITTED 3432 01:48:30,971 --> 01:48:33,506 PROHIBITS PRICE SETTING BASED ON 3433 01:48:33,506 --> 01:48:36,543 PERSONAL INFORMATION. SO THAT 3434 01:48:36,543 --> 01:48:38,345 INCLUDES INFORMATION LIKE RACE, 3435 01:48:38,345 --> 01:48:40,347 GENDER, EMPLOYMENT STATUS, YOUR 3436 01:48:40,347 --> 01:48:43,083 ACTIVITY ONLINE, YOUR GOOGLE 3437 01:48:43,083 --> 01:48:46,887 SEARCHES AND, AND THINGS LIKE AI 3438 01:48:46,887 --> 01:48:47,654 CHATBOT CONVERSATIONS. THE 3439 01:48:47,654 --> 01:48:49,222 SECOND THING IT DOES IS WE'VE 3440 01:48:49,222 --> 01:48:50,690 BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL TO MAKE 3441 01:48:50,690 --> 01:48:52,492 SURE THAT IT PROTECTS COMMON 3442 01:48:52,492 --> 01:48:53,860 DISCOUNTS THAT WE ALL KNOW AND 3443 01:48:53,860 --> 01:48:55,562 APPRECIATE, LIKE THE DOLLAR OFF 3444 01:48:55,562 --> 01:48:58,131 CUCUMBERS OR YOUR SHOPPER'S 3445 01:48:58,131 --> 01:49:01,034 CART DISCOUNTS, THOSE SORTS OF 3446 01:49:01,034 --> 01:49:01,801 THINGS. SECONDLY, WE'VE BEEN 3447 01:49:01,801 --> 01:49:03,069 WE'VE WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE 3448 01:49:03,069 --> 01:49:05,205 THAT THERE'S NO IMPACTS ON 3449 01:49:05,205 --> 01:49:06,606 TRADITIONAL BUSINESS PRACTICES 3450 01:49:06,606 --> 01:49:07,307 LIKE STORE BASED PRICING, THE 3451 01:49:07,307 --> 01:49:09,976 TYPE OF MARKET ANALYSIS AND 3452 01:49:09,976 --> 01:49:12,779 REGIONAL PRICING THAT GROCERS 3453 01:49:12,779 --> 01:49:14,481 AND RETAILERS ENGAGE IN THAT 3454 01:49:14,481 --> 01:49:18,585 DOES NOT INVOLVE PERSONAL 3455 01:49:18,585 --> 01:49:20,287 INFORMATION. IT ALSO IS VERY 3456 01:49:20,287 --> 01:49:22,489 INTENTIONAL IN TRYING TO PROTECT 3457 01:49:22,489 --> 01:49:24,224 SMALL AND INDEPENDENT GROCERS. 3458 01:49:24,224 --> 01:49:25,325 THOSE GROCERS ARE NOT COVERED BY 3459 01:49:25,325 --> 01:49:27,661 THIS LEGISLATION. I'LL SAY MORE 3460 01:49:27,661 --> 01:49:30,597 ABOUT THAT IN THE COVERAGE 3461 01:49:30,597 --> 01:49:31,531 SECTION. BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT 3462 01:49:31,531 --> 01:49:32,299 IMPACTED, AND THEY, BY AND 3463 01:49:32,299 --> 01:49:34,668 LARGE, DO NOT ENGAGE IN THESE 3464 01:49:34,668 --> 01:49:36,369 ACTIVITIES, BUT THEY ARE IN A 3465 01:49:36,369 --> 01:49:36,970 COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE WITH 3466 01:49:36,970 --> 01:49:42,776 LARGER ENTITIES THAT DO SO. THIS 3467 01:49:42,776 --> 01:49:44,244 LAW WILL HAVE A BASELINE SORT OF 3468 01:49:44,244 --> 01:49:44,811 COMMON PRACTICE SETTING OF 3469 01:49:44,811 --> 01:49:45,879 ACCEPTABLE PRACTICES THAT WILL 3470 01:49:45,879 --> 01:49:47,180 ALSO SERVE TO TO EQUAL THAT 3471 01:49:47,180 --> 01:49:50,917 PLAYING FIELD AND SUPPORT SMALL 3472 01:49:50,917 --> 01:49:52,552 GROCERS. OTHER TWO ELEMENTS THAT 3473 01:49:52,552 --> 01:49:54,955 THE LEGISLATION COVERS IS 3474 01:49:54,955 --> 01:49:56,022 MANDATORY DISCLOSURES. I'LL 3475 01:49:56,022 --> 01:50:00,860 I'LL REVIEW THOSE. AND 3476 01:50:00,860 --> 01:50:01,428 ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS. SO 3477 01:50:01,428 --> 01:50:02,963 BEFORE JUMPING INTO THE POLICY 3478 01:50:02,963 --> 01:50:03,563 DETAILS, I'M GOING TO TALK 3479 01:50:03,563 --> 01:50:05,031 THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF OUR 3480 01:50:05,031 --> 01:50:10,403 ENGAGEMENT. WE WE HAD A ROBUST 3481 01:50:10,403 --> 01:50:11,404 ENGAGEMENT BOTH ON THE COMMUNITY 3482 01:50:11,404 --> 01:50:13,807 AND BUSINESS SIDE AND REALLY 3483 01:50:13,807 --> 01:50:16,676 WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR TEAM 3484 01:50:16,676 --> 01:50:17,277 HERE REALLY LED THIS EFFORT. 3485 01:50:17,277 --> 01:50:18,812 SHE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY 3486 01:50:18,812 --> 01:50:20,580 AS WELL AS ARI NOSRATI AND 3487 01:50:20,580 --> 01:50:22,582 SHERYL DE LA. I REALLY WANT TO 3488 01:50:22,582 --> 01:50:24,584 ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR GOOD WORK. SO 3489 01:50:24,584 --> 01:50:25,885 WE HAD ABOUT SEVEN GROUP 3490 01:50:25,885 --> 01:50:27,354 MEETINGS ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE, 3491 01:50:27,354 --> 01:50:29,322 MULTIPLE INDIVIDUAL 3492 01:50:29,322 --> 01:50:31,057 CONVERSATIONS. YOU CAN SEE SOME 3493 01:50:31,057 --> 01:50:32,158 OF THE THE GROUPS WE ENGAGED 3494 01:50:32,158 --> 01:50:32,859 WITH ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR 3495 01:50:32,859 --> 01:50:36,563 SCREEN. I'M NOT GOING TO REVIEW 3496 01:50:36,563 --> 01:50:37,397 THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE POLICY IN 3497 01:50:37,397 --> 01:50:38,798 THIS SECTION. I'LL TALK THROUGH 3498 01:50:38,798 --> 01:50:41,701 THOSE AS WE GET INTO THE POLICY 3499 01:50:41,701 --> 01:50:42,636 DETAILS THEMSELVES. BUT THEY'RE 3500 01:50:42,636 --> 01:50:45,605 ON THE SLIDE HERE. JUST FOR 3501 01:50:45,605 --> 01:50:46,740 REFERENCE ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, 3502 01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:48,541 AGAIN, VERY ROBUST ENGAGEMENT 3503 01:50:48,541 --> 01:50:54,080 OVER 35 INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, SIX 3504 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:54,648 LARGE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, 3505 01:50:54,648 --> 01:50:56,516 ENGAGED WITH EVERYONE FROM 3506 01:50:56,516 --> 01:51:00,153 INDIVIDUAL GROCERS LIKE SAFEWAY 3507 01:51:00,153 --> 01:51:01,988 AND QFC TO WASHINGTON RETAIL 3508 01:51:01,988 --> 01:51:03,690 ASSOCIATION, NORTHWEST GROCERS 3509 01:51:03,690 --> 01:51:05,325 ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS SORT OF 3510 01:51:05,325 --> 01:51:06,860 THE TYPES OF ENTITIES THAT ARE 3511 01:51:06,860 --> 01:51:08,161 IN THE DELIVERY SPACE LIKE 3512 01:51:08,161 --> 01:51:11,064 AMAZON, INSTACART AND DOORDASH. 3513 01:51:11,064 --> 01:51:13,433 ALSO CONSULTED WITH NATIONAL 3514 01:51:13,433 --> 01:51:16,036 EXPERTS, INCLUDING THE DOCTOR, 3515 01:51:16,036 --> 01:51:16,670 WELLS AND LEE, WHO ARE ON THE 3516 01:51:16,670 --> 01:51:19,172 CALL TODAY, AND A NUMBER OF 3517 01:51:19,172 --> 01:51:22,108 OTHER ENTITIES WHO HAVE BEEN IN 3518 01:51:22,108 --> 01:51:25,612 THIS WORKING IN THIS SPACE FOR 3519 01:51:25,612 --> 01:51:27,414 FOR MANY YEARS. SO I'LL JUMP IN 3520 01:51:27,414 --> 01:51:29,983 NOW TO THE POLICY PROVISIONS 3521 01:51:29,983 --> 01:51:32,185 ITSELF, STARTING WITH WHO IS 3522 01:51:32,185 --> 01:51:33,553 COVERED BY THE ORDINANCE AND 3523 01:51:33,553 --> 01:51:36,556 WHAT IS COVERED. AND THERE'S 3524 01:51:36,556 --> 01:51:38,058 REALLY TWO ELEMENTS TO ANALYZING 3525 01:51:38,058 --> 01:51:39,592 COVERAGE IS THE TYPE OF ENTITY 3526 01:51:39,592 --> 01:51:42,662 AND THE TYPE OF ITEM. THERE'S 3527 01:51:42,662 --> 01:51:44,731 THREE ENTITIES THAT ARE COVERED. 3528 01:51:44,731 --> 01:51:45,632 THERE'S A LOT OF TEXT ON THIS 3529 01:51:45,632 --> 01:51:46,833 SLIDE. I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH 3530 01:51:46,833 --> 01:51:48,101 IT STEP BY STEP. BUT THERE'S 3531 01:51:48,101 --> 01:51:50,336 THREE ENTITIES, GROCERY 3532 01:51:50,336 --> 01:51:52,706 BUSINESSES, MIXED USE GROCERY 3533 01:51:52,706 --> 01:51:53,206 BUSINESSES AND DELIVERY 3534 01:51:53,206 --> 01:51:55,241 PROVIDERS THAT ARE COVERED. A 3535 01:51:55,241 --> 01:51:56,409 GROCERY BUSINESS IN THE 3536 01:51:56,409 --> 01:51:57,477 ORDINANCE IS DEFINED, YOU KNOW, 3537 01:51:57,477 --> 01:51:58,311 AND WE'RE JUST TO START WITH AN 3538 01:51:58,311 --> 01:51:59,913 EXAMPLE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3539 01:51:59,913 --> 01:52:01,881 YOUR SAFEWAYS, YOUR QFC IS YOUR 3540 01:52:01,881 --> 01:52:03,483 TRADITIONAL GROCERS HERE. 3541 01:52:03,483 --> 01:52:05,752 THEY'RE DEFINED AS HAVING AT 3542 01:52:05,752 --> 01:52:08,088 LEAST 10,000FT , 20 OR MORE 3543 01:52:08,088 --> 01:52:10,323 LOCATIONS, AND PRIMARILY 3544 01:52:10,323 --> 01:52:12,792 RETAILING GROCERIES. SO UNDER 20 3545 01:52:12,792 --> 01:52:14,260 LOCATIONS ARE NOT COVERED BY 3546 01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:15,895 THIS ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S YOUR 3547 01:52:15,895 --> 01:52:17,530 PCC, YOUR RED APPLES, YOUR 3548 01:52:17,530 --> 01:52:19,699 UWAJIMAYA. THEY ARE NOT COVERED 3549 01:52:19,699 --> 01:52:21,134 BY THIS ORDINANCE AT ALL. AGAIN, 3550 01:52:21,134 --> 01:52:22,535 RECOGNIZING THAT THEY ARE NOT 3551 01:52:22,535 --> 01:52:23,536 ENGAGING IN THESE PRACTICES. AND 3552 01:52:23,536 --> 01:52:24,904 IN FACT, THIS LEGISLATION IS 3553 01:52:24,904 --> 01:52:26,406 DESIGNED TO EVEN THE PLAYING 3554 01:52:26,406 --> 01:52:28,875 FIELD FOR THE LARGER ENTITIES 3555 01:52:28,875 --> 01:52:33,079 THAT ARE THE SECOND COVERED 3556 01:52:33,079 --> 01:52:33,947 ENTITY. SORRY. AND I'LL JUST SAY 3557 01:52:33,947 --> 01:52:36,850 FOR THOSE FOR THOSE GROCERY 3558 01:52:36,850 --> 01:52:37,884 BUSINESSES, THE TYPES OF ITEMS 3559 01:52:37,884 --> 01:52:39,185 THAT ARE COVERED, MEANING THE 3560 01:52:39,185 --> 01:52:40,954 TYPES OF ITEMS THAT CANNOT BE 3561 01:52:40,954 --> 01:52:44,457 USED, PERSONAL DATA TO PRICE. 3562 01:52:44,457 --> 01:52:47,527 IT'S ANY ITEM RETAILED BY A 3563 01:52:47,527 --> 01:52:49,095 GROCERY BUSINESS FOR A MIXED USE 3564 01:52:49,095 --> 01:52:50,563 GROCERY BUSINESS IS THE SECOND 3565 01:52:50,563 --> 01:52:51,197 ENTITY THAT'S COVERED. THESE 3566 01:52:51,197 --> 01:52:55,301 ARE YOUR TARGETS. FRED MYERS, 3567 01:52:55,301 --> 01:52:57,670 COSTCO'S DEFINED AS AT LEAST 3568 01:52:57,670 --> 01:53:00,206 10,000FT DEDICATED TO GROCERY, 3569 01:53:00,206 --> 01:53:01,741 BUT NOT ONLY RETAILING, 3570 01:53:01,741 --> 01:53:03,810 GROCERIES, GROCERY ITEMS. AND 3571 01:53:03,810 --> 01:53:06,045 BECAUSE THEY RETAIL A WHOLE LOT 3572 01:53:06,045 --> 01:53:07,514 MORE THAN JUST GROCERIES, WE HAD 3573 01:53:07,514 --> 01:53:10,250 TO DEFINE THE ITEM COVERAGE MORE 3574 01:53:10,250 --> 01:53:12,418 NARROWLY OR WITH MORE 3575 01:53:12,418 --> 01:53:14,154 SPECIFICITY TO INCLUDE GROCERIES 3576 01:53:14,154 --> 01:53:15,722 THEMSELVES, DIAPERS, GROOMING 3577 01:53:15,722 --> 01:53:17,090 AND HYGIENE PRODUCTS, AND 3578 01:53:17,090 --> 01:53:18,358 OVER-THE-COUNTER DRUGS. SO SORT 3579 01:53:18,358 --> 01:53:19,225 OF, IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR 3580 01:53:19,225 --> 01:53:21,828 AISLES IN A GROCERY STORE, WE, 3581 01:53:21,828 --> 01:53:24,797 WE TOOK THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS AND 3582 01:53:24,797 --> 01:53:26,299 DEFINED CREATED A STATUTORY 3583 01:53:26,299 --> 01:53:27,700 DEFINITION THAT COVERED THEM FOR 3584 01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:29,936 THIS TYPE OF RETAILER THAT 3585 01:53:29,936 --> 01:53:30,470 RETAILS OTHER THINGS LIKE 3586 01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:31,237 CLOTHES AND TVS, ET CETERA., 3587 01:53:31,237 --> 01:53:33,039 WHICH ARE NOT COVERED BY THE 3588 01:53:33,039 --> 01:53:36,776 ORDINANCE LASTLY, WE HAVE 3589 01:53:36,776 --> 01:53:37,710 DELIVERY SERVICE PROVIDERS. 3590 01:53:37,710 --> 01:53:41,047 THESE ARE YOUR, YOUR AMAZON'S 3591 01:53:41,047 --> 01:53:43,116 INSTACART, DOORDASH THAT ARE 3592 01:53:43,116 --> 01:53:43,716 DELIVERING GROCERY ITEMS AND 3593 01:53:43,716 --> 01:53:45,819 RELATED ITEMS. THEY ARE COVERED 3594 01:53:45,819 --> 01:53:47,120 IF THEY HAVE AT LEAST 100 3595 01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,454 EMPLOYEES AND THEY FACILITATE 3596 01:53:48,454 --> 01:53:49,756 DELIVERY OR PICK UP FROM A 3597 01:53:49,756 --> 01:53:51,291 GROCERY STORE, A MIXED USE STORE 3598 01:53:51,291 --> 01:53:55,495 OR A WAREHOUSE, THE ITEMS THAT 3599 01:53:55,495 --> 01:53:57,096 ARE COVERED ARE ANY ITEM THAT IS 3600 01:53:57,096 --> 01:53:58,565 DELIVERED FROM A GROCERY STORE 3601 01:53:58,565 --> 01:53:59,866 OR PICKED UP FROM A GROCERY 3602 01:53:59,866 --> 01:54:02,669 STORE, AS WELL AS THOSE SAME 3603 01:54:02,669 --> 01:54:03,703 BUCKET OF ITEMS I MENTIONED 3604 01:54:03,703 --> 01:54:04,704 ABOVE. GROCERIES, DIAPERS, 3605 01:54:04,704 --> 01:54:07,273 GROOMING AND HYGIENE PRODUCTS, 3606 01:54:07,273 --> 01:54:11,311 AND OVER-THE-COUNTER DRUGS OKAY, 3607 01:54:11,311 --> 01:54:12,745 SO THAT'S WHO IS COVERED AND 3608 01:54:12,745 --> 01:54:14,514 WHAT IS COVERED. WHAT IS THE 3609 01:54:14,514 --> 01:54:15,682 REGULATION ACTUALLY DO? AS I 3610 01:54:15,682 --> 01:54:18,585 SAID AT THE TOP, IT BANS 3611 01:54:18,585 --> 01:54:18,985 ALGORITHMIC PRICE 3612 01:54:18,985 --> 01:54:20,386 DISCRIMINATION, WHICH IS DEFINED 3613 01:54:20,386 --> 01:54:22,255 AS SETTING, ALTERING OR 3614 01:54:22,255 --> 01:54:24,090 MANIPULATING THE PRICE OF GOODS 3615 01:54:24,090 --> 01:54:26,593 BASED ON MONITORING, TRACKING OR 3616 01:54:26,593 --> 01:54:28,595 AUTOMATED ANALYSIS OF A 3617 01:54:28,595 --> 01:54:30,630 CONSUMER'S BEHAVIOR, LOCATION, 3618 01:54:30,630 --> 01:54:31,231 DEMOGRAPHIC CHARACTERISTICS, 3619 01:54:31,231 --> 01:54:32,799 BIOMETRIC DATA, OR OTHER 3620 01:54:32,799 --> 01:54:35,068 PERSONAL INFORMATION. I'LL SAY 3621 01:54:35,068 --> 01:54:37,570 MORE ABOUT THAT TERM ON THE NEXT 3622 01:54:37,570 --> 01:54:39,472 SLIDE, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A 3623 01:54:39,472 --> 01:54:41,007 PROHIBITION ON USING ELECTRONIC 3624 01:54:41,007 --> 01:54:42,342 SHELF LABELS. THIS IS A DIGITAL 3625 01:54:42,342 --> 01:54:44,344 DISPLAY OF PRICES WHICH ARE 3626 01:54:44,344 --> 01:54:46,312 DEPLOYED CURRENTLY IN SOME 3627 01:54:46,312 --> 01:54:48,648 LOCATIONS IN SEATTLE TO DISPLAY 3628 01:54:48,648 --> 01:54:55,388 ALGORITHMICALLY MODIFIED PRICES 3629 01:54:55,388 --> 01:54:56,022 SO PERSONAL INFORMATION, WHICH 3630 01:54:56,022 --> 01:54:57,257 CANNOT BE USED TO MANIPULATE 3631 01:54:57,257 --> 01:54:58,491 PRICES, IS DEFINED AS 3632 01:54:58,491 --> 01:54:59,959 INFORMATION THAT IDENTIFIES, 3633 01:54:59,959 --> 01:55:02,028 RELATES TO, DESCRIBES, OR COULD 3634 01:55:02,028 --> 01:55:04,163 REASONABLY BE LINKED WITH 3635 01:55:04,163 --> 01:55:05,798 CONSUMER, A HOUSEHOLD OR DEVICE, 3636 01:55:05,798 --> 01:55:07,433 INCLUDING THROUGH CONSUMER 3637 01:55:07,433 --> 01:55:08,701 PROFILES. SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT, 3638 01:55:08,701 --> 01:55:10,737 AND THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE 3639 01:55:10,737 --> 01:55:12,238 LIST, BUT JUST TO GIVE FOLKS AN 3640 01:55:12,238 --> 01:55:13,473 IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING 3641 01:55:13,473 --> 01:55:15,074 ABOUT, IT'S PERSONAL 3642 01:55:15,074 --> 01:55:16,209 CHARACTERISTICS LIKE AGE, RACE, 3643 01:55:16,209 --> 01:55:17,744 GENDER, YOUR STATUS AS AN 3644 01:55:17,744 --> 01:55:19,912 EMPLOYEE OR YOUR MARITAL STATUS 3645 01:55:19,912 --> 01:55:23,182 OR YOUR PARENTAL STATUS, YOUR 3646 01:55:23,182 --> 01:55:23,750 ACTIVITY ONLINE LIKE GOOGLE 3647 01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:25,385 SEARCHING, GOOGLE SEARCHES OR 3648 01:55:25,385 --> 01:55:30,089 SOCIAL MEDIA INTERACTIONS, MORE 3649 01:55:30,089 --> 01:55:30,690 NUANCED PERSONAL INFORMATION 3650 01:55:30,690 --> 01:55:32,191 LIKE NAME, SOCIAL SECURITY 3651 01:55:32,191 --> 01:55:33,860 NUMBER AND IP ADDRESS, AND 3652 01:55:33,860 --> 01:55:36,696 COMMERCIAL INFORMATION LIKE 3653 01:55:36,696 --> 01:55:37,297 PERSONAL PROPERTY PRODUCTS OR 3654 01:55:37,297 --> 01:55:40,667 SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE 3655 01:55:40,667 --> 01:55:43,136 PURCHASED. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT 3656 01:55:43,136 --> 01:55:45,171 AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT JUST AN 3657 01:55:45,171 --> 01:55:47,173 EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF 3658 01:55:47,173 --> 01:55:49,642 INFORMATION THAT CANNOT BE USED 3659 01:55:49,642 --> 01:55:52,145 TO TARGET PERSONALIZED PRICES 3660 01:55:52,145 --> 01:55:56,382 WE'VE ALSO DONE A LOT OF WORK 3661 01:55:56,382 --> 01:55:58,851 TO ENSURE THAT BUSINESS 3662 01:55:58,851 --> 01:55:59,986 PRACTICES THAT MAY APPROACH SOME 3663 01:55:59,986 --> 01:56:02,488 OF THIS ACTIVITY, OR MAY BE WERE 3664 01:56:02,488 --> 01:56:04,223 CONCERNED. WE HEARD CONCERNS 3665 01:56:04,223 --> 01:56:06,960 FROM BUSINESSES ABOUT 3666 01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,696 POTENTIALLY BEING IMPACTED ARE 3667 01:56:09,696 --> 01:56:11,164 SPECIFICALLY PROTECTED. SO 3668 01:56:11,164 --> 01:56:12,565 EXAMPLES OF THIS, AND THIS 3669 01:56:12,565 --> 01:56:13,166 REALLY IS ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE 3670 01:56:13,166 --> 01:56:14,434 BACK AND FORTH ENGAGEMENT WE HAD 3671 01:56:14,434 --> 01:56:15,902 ON BOTH THE BUSINESS AND THE 3672 01:56:15,902 --> 01:56:18,338 COMMUNITY SIDE AND CONCERNS THAT 3673 01:56:18,338 --> 01:56:20,106 WE HEARD, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE 3674 01:56:20,106 --> 01:56:20,673 SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THE 3675 01:56:20,673 --> 01:56:22,709 POLICY. SO THINGS LIKE STORE BY 3676 01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:23,309 STORE PRICING. SO A DIFFERENT 3677 01:56:23,309 --> 01:56:25,345 PRICE IN WEST SEATTLE VERSUS 3678 01:56:25,345 --> 01:56:27,847 CAPITOL HILL, NOT IMPACTED, NOT 3679 01:56:27,847 --> 01:56:30,316 REGULATED BY THIS ORDINANCE. 3680 01:56:30,316 --> 01:56:32,385 PRICING BASED ON A DIFFERENT 3681 01:56:32,385 --> 01:56:33,119 DELIVERY LOCATION. YOU HEARD A 3682 01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:34,520 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN PUBLIC 3683 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:35,988 COMMENT. SO IF I'M GETTING AN 3684 01:56:35,988 --> 01:56:38,024 ITEM DELIVERED TO ME AND YOU 3685 01:56:38,024 --> 01:56:38,791 KNOW, A FRIEND IS GETTING 3686 01:56:38,791 --> 01:56:40,493 SOMETHING IN A DIFFERENT 3687 01:56:40,493 --> 01:56:41,627 LOCATION, IT'S FINE TO HAVE THE 3688 01:56:41,627 --> 01:56:45,698 TOTAL PRICE BE DIFFERENT. YOUR 3689 01:56:45,698 --> 01:56:46,332 LOCATION IS PERSONAL INFORMATION 3690 01:56:46,332 --> 01:56:46,933 UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, BUT WE 3691 01:56:46,933 --> 01:56:48,301 HAVE CARVED OUT THAT TYPE OF 3692 01:56:48,301 --> 01:56:53,339 PRICE DIFFERENCE IN THE 3693 01:56:53,339 --> 01:56:54,874 LEGISLATION. THINGS LIKE 3694 01:56:54,874 --> 01:56:57,210 CUSTOMER RETENTION OFFERS. YOU 3695 01:56:57,210 --> 01:56:57,710 MAY BE DISCONTINUING A 3696 01:56:57,710 --> 01:56:58,378 SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE, SOMETHING 3697 01:56:58,378 --> 01:56:59,278 OF THAT NATURE. THE RETAILER 3698 01:56:59,278 --> 01:57:02,015 WANTS TO OFFER YOU A RETENTION 3699 01:57:02,015 --> 01:57:05,251 OFFER OF SOME NATURE THAT WOULD, 3700 01:57:05,251 --> 01:57:06,119 UNDER A PLAIN READING, BE 3701 01:57:06,119 --> 01:57:07,653 PERSONAL INFORMATION. BUT WE'VE 3702 01:57:07,653 --> 01:57:10,156 CARVED THAT OUT BASED ON THAT 3703 01:57:10,156 --> 01:57:10,723 BUSINESS FEEDBACK AND THAT 3704 01:57:10,723 --> 01:57:15,695 ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND LASTLY 3705 01:57:15,695 --> 01:57:17,029 RETAILERS ARE FREE TO DO SORT OF 3706 01:57:17,029 --> 01:57:19,265 MARKET, REGIONAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD 3707 01:57:19,265 --> 01:57:20,466 ANALYSIS BASED ON AGGREGATE DATA 3708 01:57:20,466 --> 01:57:22,602 TO PRICE THINGS ACCORDING TO 3709 01:57:22,602 --> 01:57:23,236 WHAT THEY THINK IS APPROPRIATE 3710 01:57:23,236 --> 01:57:25,938 IN THE MARKET OR BASED ON SUPPLY 3711 01:57:25,938 --> 01:57:27,573 AND DEMAND THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE 3712 01:57:27,573 --> 01:57:28,274 PERSONAL INFORMATION. WE'VE MADE 3713 01:57:28,274 --> 01:57:33,679 THAT VERY CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE 3714 01:57:33,679 --> 01:57:35,648 SIMILARLY, WE'VE WORKED REALLY 3715 01:57:35,648 --> 01:57:36,616 HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 3716 01:57:36,616 --> 01:57:38,017 ORDINANCE PROTECTS COMMON, 3717 01:57:38,017 --> 01:57:39,519 EVERYDAY DISCOUNTS THAT WE ALL 3718 01:57:39,519 --> 01:57:40,820 ARE FAMILIAR WITH. AND I'LL JUST 3719 01:57:40,820 --> 01:57:42,755 SAY THE EXAMPLES ON THIS SLIDE 3720 01:57:42,755 --> 01:57:43,790 ARE THINGS THAT I PERSONALLY 3721 01:57:43,790 --> 01:57:44,824 BOUGHT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, 3722 01:57:44,824 --> 01:57:46,926 AND DISCOUNTS THAT THAT GOT ME 3723 01:57:46,926 --> 01:57:48,394 TO PUT SOMETHING IN MY, IN MY 3724 01:57:48,394 --> 01:57:49,896 BASKET. SO EVERYDAY DISCOUNTS 3725 01:57:49,896 --> 01:57:51,531 LIKE THE DOLLAR OFF CUCUMBERS OR 3726 01:57:51,531 --> 01:57:54,167 THE $4 OFF COFFEE NOT IMPACTED 3727 01:57:54,167 --> 01:57:56,769 BY THIS ORDINANCE, PERFECTLY 3728 01:57:56,769 --> 01:57:59,906 ACCEPTABLE LOYALTY CLUB 3729 01:57:59,906 --> 01:58:00,373 DISCOUNTS ARE ALSO A 3730 01:58:00,373 --> 01:58:01,474 PERMISSIBLE. AND IF THEY'RE MADE 3731 01:58:01,474 --> 01:58:03,843 AVAILABLE TO ALL MEMBERS, THE 3732 01:58:03,843 --> 01:58:05,144 TYPES OF DISCOUNTS THAT LEE 3733 01:58:05,144 --> 01:58:07,680 MENTIONED, LIKE GROUP DISCOUNTS 3734 01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:07,847 FOR 3735 01:58:07,847 --> 01:58:09,515 -- TEACHERS, STUDENTS OR 3736 01:58:09,515 --> 01:58:11,083 EMPLOYEES ARE SPECIFICALLY 3737 01:58:11,083 --> 01:58:13,619 EXEMPTED IN THIS. IN THIS 3738 01:58:13,619 --> 01:58:15,021 ORDINANCE. THERE'S ALSO A CARVE 3739 01:58:15,021 --> 01:58:16,155 OUT FOR SIGNING UP FOR A 3740 01:58:16,155 --> 01:58:18,958 PROMOTION OR A MAILING LIST OR 3741 01:58:18,958 --> 01:58:21,360 BULK PURCHASES. THOSE ARE 3742 01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:21,828 PERMITTED THINGS LIKE 3743 01:58:21,828 --> 01:58:23,563 MANUFACTURERS COUPONS AND 3744 01:58:23,563 --> 01:58:25,231 DISCOUNTS BASED ON PRIOR 3745 01:58:25,231 --> 01:58:27,533 PURCHASES, PURCHASE HISTORY 3746 01:58:27,533 --> 01:58:28,801 SUBJECT TO DETAILS THAT I'LL 3747 01:58:28,801 --> 01:58:30,036 TALK ABOUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 3748 01:58:30,036 --> 01:58:31,104 AND SO THIS KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE 3749 01:58:31,104 --> 01:58:33,172 A WHOLE LONG LIST. AND IT AND IT 3750 01:58:33,172 --> 01:58:33,840 IS. AND THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF 3751 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:35,575 THE ENGAGEMENT AND THE BACK AND 3752 01:58:35,575 --> 01:58:36,509 FORTH. WE'VE HAD TO MAKE SURE 3753 01:58:36,509 --> 01:58:39,112 THAT WE ARE REALLY TARGETING 3754 01:58:39,112 --> 01:58:41,247 THIS ORDINANCE TOWARDS THE CORE 3755 01:58:41,247 --> 01:58:43,749 PURPOSE OF NOT PROTECTING 3756 01:58:43,749 --> 01:58:44,283 PERSONAL DATA IN PRICING 3757 01:58:44,283 --> 01:58:46,719 DECISIONS AND NOT IMPACTING 3758 01:58:46,719 --> 01:58:48,488 THESE TYPES OF OTHER DISCOUNTS 3759 01:58:48,488 --> 01:58:49,155 THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM RETAILERS 3760 01:58:49,155 --> 01:58:50,389 ARE IMPORTANT, THAT WE'VE 3761 01:58:50,389 --> 01:58:52,758 ENGAGED WITH COMMUNITY TO HEAR 3762 01:58:52,758 --> 01:58:55,895 THAT IT HAS, THAT THERE ARE NOT 3763 01:58:55,895 --> 01:58:57,163 SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT, AND 3764 01:58:57,163 --> 01:58:59,031 MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAILORING 3765 01:58:59,031 --> 01:59:01,601 POLICY TO SORT OF WHAT IS THE 3766 01:59:01,601 --> 01:59:03,703 REALITY IN IN THE MARKET AND, 3767 01:59:03,703 --> 01:59:07,773 AND IN AND IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY 3768 01:59:07,773 --> 01:59:09,342 CONCERNS? SO THE LAST POINT 3769 01:59:09,342 --> 01:59:11,744 ABOUT PRIOR PURCHASE HISTORY, 3770 01:59:11,744 --> 01:59:13,646 EXCUSE ME. THESE ARE DISCOUNTS 3771 01:59:13,646 --> 01:59:15,148 THAT ARE THAT YOU MAY BE OFFERED 3772 01:59:15,148 --> 01:59:16,649 BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT A PRODUCT IN 3773 01:59:16,649 --> 01:59:17,550 THE PAST. RETAILERS WANT TO 3774 01:59:17,550 --> 01:59:19,318 OFFER YOU SOME SORT OF DISCOUNT 3775 01:59:19,318 --> 01:59:21,187 BASED ON THAT. WE'VE HEARD THESE 3776 01:59:21,187 --> 01:59:22,922 ARE IMPORTANT TO RETAILERS. 3777 01:59:22,922 --> 01:59:24,790 WE'VE HEARD ALSO FROM COMMUNITY 3778 01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:27,193 THAT SOME FOLKS ARE HAVE 3779 01:59:27,193 --> 01:59:29,228 RECEIVED THESE AND APPRECIATE 3780 01:59:29,228 --> 01:59:31,397 THEM. BUT THAT IS PERSONAL 3781 01:59:31,397 --> 01:59:31,931 INFORMATION AND PERSONAL 3782 01:59:31,931 --> 01:59:33,633 TARGETING. SO WE WANT TO ALLOW 3783 01:59:33,633 --> 01:59:34,267 THAT PRACTICE, MAKE SURE IT IS 3784 01:59:34,267 --> 01:59:36,102 THERE ARE SOME GUARDRAILS. AND 3785 01:59:36,102 --> 01:59:37,603 SO WHAT THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES 3786 01:59:37,603 --> 01:59:39,972 IS THAT YOU CAN OFFER A PERSONAL 3787 01:59:39,972 --> 01:59:41,774 DISCOUNT BASED ON YOUR PRIOR 3788 01:59:41,774 --> 01:59:43,809 PURCHASE HISTORY. IF YOU IT IS 3789 01:59:43,809 --> 01:59:45,578 BASED NOT ON INDIVIDUALIZED 3790 01:59:45,578 --> 01:59:47,213 PRICING, BUT PLACING CONSUMERS 3791 01:59:47,213 --> 01:59:48,447 INTO DEFINED TIERS. AND SO TO 3792 01:59:48,447 --> 01:59:49,982 GIVE AN EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY I 3793 01:59:49,982 --> 01:59:51,651 PURCHASE DIET COKE LAST WEEK. IF 3794 01:59:51,651 --> 01:59:53,719 I'M OFFERED A DISCOUNT BASED ON 3795 01:59:53,719 --> 01:59:55,555 THAT LAST WEEK PURCHASE, IT 3796 01:59:55,555 --> 01:59:57,557 NEEDS TO BE OFFERED TO EVERYBODY 3797 01:59:57,557 --> 01:59:59,225 WHO MEETS THOSE CRITERIA. IF I 3798 01:59:59,225 --> 02:00:01,294 HAVEN'T BOUGHT DIET COKE IN IN 3799 02:00:01,294 --> 02:00:02,228 TWO MONTHS AND THE RETAILER 3800 02:00:02,228 --> 02:00:04,463 WANTS TO GET ME BACK ON THAT 3801 02:00:04,463 --> 02:00:05,731 DIET COKE TRAIN, THEY CAN OFFER 3802 02:00:05,731 --> 02:00:07,533 ME A DISCOUNT AS LONG AS 3803 02:00:07,533 --> 02:00:10,102 EVERYONE WHO'S WHO'S MEETS 3804 02:00:10,102 --> 02:00:13,573 THAT PATTERN ALSO RECEIVES THE 3805 02:00:13,573 --> 02:00:16,008 SAME DISCOUNT. SO GETTING 3806 02:00:16,008 --> 02:00:16,809 GETTING TO THE END HERE, 3807 02:00:16,809 --> 02:00:18,211 THERE'S A NUMBER OF DISCLOSURE 3808 02:00:18,211 --> 02:00:19,412 REQUIREMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE. 3809 02:00:19,412 --> 02:00:21,113 SO IF YOU ARE OFFERING A 3810 02:00:21,113 --> 02:00:22,215 DISCOUNT BASED ON A GROUP LIKE 3811 02:00:22,215 --> 02:00:23,382 TEACHERS OR VETERANS OR 3812 02:00:23,382 --> 02:00:25,151 EMPLOYEES, YOU NEED TO TELL YOU 3813 02:00:25,151 --> 02:00:26,352 NEED TO DISCLOSE WHAT ARE THOSE 3814 02:00:26,352 --> 02:00:29,088 GROUPS? HOW DO YOU QUALIFY? WHAT 3815 02:00:29,088 --> 02:00:29,722 IS THE WHAT IS THE DEFINITION? 3816 02:00:29,722 --> 02:00:32,758 IF THERE ARE DISCOUNTS BASED ON, 3817 02:00:32,758 --> 02:00:34,727 YOU KNOW, SIGNING UP FOR 3818 02:00:34,727 --> 02:00:36,362 PROMOTION OR A MAILING LIST? 3819 02:00:36,362 --> 02:00:36,896 AGAIN, THOSE NEED TO BE 3820 02:00:36,896 --> 02:00:38,798 DISCLOSED AND THOSE CONSUMER 3821 02:00:38,798 --> 02:00:39,432 TIERS I MENTIONED NEED NEED TO 3822 02:00:39,432 --> 02:00:46,238 BE DISCLOSED AS WELL. SO SORT OF 3823 02:00:46,238 --> 02:00:48,641 WRAPPING UP HERE, JUMPING INTO 3824 02:00:48,641 --> 02:00:50,476 ENFORCEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION 3825 02:00:50,476 --> 02:00:51,978 ENFORCEMENT IS ENVISIONED TO BE 3826 02:00:51,978 --> 02:00:53,112 BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, 3827 02:00:53,112 --> 02:00:55,348 WHO MAY WHO CAN FILE A LAWSUIT 3828 02:00:55,348 --> 02:00:56,415 TO ENFORCE VIOLATIONS, AS WELL 3829 02:00:56,415 --> 02:00:57,149 AS A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION TO 3830 02:00:57,149 --> 02:00:59,318 MAKE SURE THAT CONSUMERS HAVE AN 3831 02:00:59,318 --> 02:01:01,287 ABILITY TO ADVOCATE ON THEIR OWN 3832 02:01:01,287 --> 02:01:05,358 BEHALF. THIS IS THE TYPE OF 3833 02:01:05,358 --> 02:01:07,360 REGULATION AND VIOLATION THAT 3834 02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:08,861 WILL HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF 3835 02:01:08,861 --> 02:01:10,663 VISIBILITY. AND SO HAVING THAT 3836 02:01:10,663 --> 02:01:11,297 KIND OF PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION 3837 02:01:11,297 --> 02:01:12,665 AS AN ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISM 3838 02:01:12,665 --> 02:01:15,668 IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR 3839 02:01:15,668 --> 02:01:16,636 IMPLEMENTATION. AND I'LL JUST 3840 02:01:16,636 --> 02:01:18,237 NOTE, THERE IS NO AGENCY 3841 02:01:18,237 --> 02:01:21,607 ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT 3842 02:01:21,607 --> 02:01:24,043 ENVISIONED IN THE LEGISLATION AS 3843 02:01:24,043 --> 02:01:25,911 TRANSMITTED FAS WILL HAVE 3844 02:01:25,911 --> 02:01:26,579 RULEMAKING AUTHORITY, AND WE'LL 3845 02:01:26,579 --> 02:01:28,848 BE DOING OUTREACH AND EDUCATION. 3846 02:01:28,848 --> 02:01:33,619 OUR FISCAL NOTE INCLUDES 175,000 3847 02:01:33,619 --> 02:01:35,821 OF ONE TIME FUNDING FOR THAT ONE 3848 02:01:35,821 --> 02:01:39,492 TIME FUNDING NEEDS. FOR THAT, NO 3849 02:01:39,492 --> 02:01:41,794 ADDITIONAL FEES ARE NEEDED TO 3850 02:01:41,794 --> 02:01:44,263 IMPLEMENT THIS ORDINANCE. AND 3851 02:01:44,263 --> 02:01:44,897 THEN WE'VE SCOPED A EFFECTIVE 3852 02:01:44,897 --> 02:01:48,167 DATE OF SEPTEMBER 1st, 2027 TO 3853 02:01:48,167 --> 02:01:50,903 GIVE FAS THE TIME TO DO THAT 3854 02:01:50,903 --> 02:01:52,638 RULEMAKING AND TO GIVE REGULATED 3855 02:01:52,638 --> 02:01:55,141 ENTITIES A PRETTY LONG RUNWAY, 3856 02:01:55,141 --> 02:01:57,009 REALLY A YEAR TO UNDERSTAND THE 3857 02:01:57,009 --> 02:01:59,945 ORDINANCE AND TO BUILD THEIR 3858 02:01:59,945 --> 02:02:00,479 COMPLIANCE SYSTEMS TO TO 3859 02:02:00,479 --> 02:02:06,152 IMPLEMENT IT. AND THAT CONCLUDES 3860 02:02:06,152 --> 02:02:07,753 THE PRESENTATION. EAGER TO TAKE 3861 02:02:07,753 --> 02:02:09,288 ANY QUESTIONS OR ANSWER ANYTHING 3862 02:02:09,288 --> 02:02:11,490 THAT WE CAN 3863 02:02:11,490 --> 02:02:13,592 -- THANK YOU ALL FOR THE 3864 02:02:13,592 --> 02:02:15,628 PRESENTATION TODAY. IT WAS A 3865 02:02:15,628 --> 02:02:17,129 TREMENDOUSLY THOROUGH AND JUST 3866 02:02:17,129 --> 02:02:17,730 PARTICULARLY ILLUMINATING FOR 3867 02:02:17,730 --> 02:02:19,165 ME. SO REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 3868 02:02:19,165 --> 02:02:20,066 COLLEAGUES. I'M JUST GOING TO 3869 02:02:20,066 --> 02:02:23,169 JUMP IN AND TAKE US BACK TO 3870 02:02:23,169 --> 02:02:24,570 SLIDE 30 VERY QUICKLY, BECAUSE I 3871 02:02:24,570 --> 02:02:26,238 KNOW FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WE 3872 02:02:26,238 --> 02:02:27,940 HAD WITH INDUSTRY, IT WAS REALLY 3873 02:02:27,940 --> 02:02:28,908 IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE CRYSTAL 3874 02:02:28,908 --> 02:02:30,776 CLEAR IN OUR LEGISLATION THAT WE 3875 02:02:30,776 --> 02:02:33,446 STATE EXPLICITLY IN THE 3876 02:02:33,446 --> 02:02:34,080 DEFINITION OF ALGORITHMIC PRICE 3877 02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,648 DISCRIMINATION, THAT THIS BILL 3878 02:02:35,648 --> 02:02:37,483 DOES NOT AFFECT DISCOUNTS 3879 02:02:37,483 --> 02:02:39,285 APPLIED TO PARTICULAR GROUPS 3880 02:02:39,285 --> 02:02:40,653 LIKE SENIORS, STUDENTS AND 3881 02:02:40,653 --> 02:02:41,821 VETERANS. AND WE TOOK THAT 3882 02:02:41,821 --> 02:02:43,222 FEEDBACK AND BAKED IT INTO THE 3883 02:02:43,222 --> 02:02:44,857 LEGISLATION. BUT IT'S SO FUNNY. 3884 02:02:44,857 --> 02:02:47,359 I'M GETTING THESE TEXTS THAT I 3885 02:02:47,359 --> 02:02:48,394 DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR SAYING THAT 3886 02:02:48,394 --> 02:02:49,628 THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO TAKE 3887 02:02:49,628 --> 02:02:52,364 THOSE AWAY. SO, KAREN, COULD YOU 3888 02:02:52,364 --> 02:02:54,100 CLARIFY WHAT KINDS OF ORDINARY 3889 02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:55,101 DISCOUNTS AND PROMOTIONS WOULD 3890 02:02:55,101 --> 02:02:57,803 STILL BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS 3891 02:02:57,803 --> 02:02:58,137 LEGISLATION? 3892 02:02:58,137 --> 02:02:58,838 -- YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY THE 3893 02:02:58,838 --> 02:03:01,107 LIST, THE LAUNDRY LIST HERE ON 3894 02:03:01,107 --> 02:03:03,175 ON THE ON THE SLIDE. SO THE 3895 02:03:03,175 --> 02:03:05,244 STORE BASED DISCOUNTS THAT WE 3896 02:03:05,244 --> 02:03:05,978 ALL ENCOUNTER. AND THAT GOT ME 3897 02:03:05,978 --> 02:03:08,881 TO BUY THE COFFEE LAST WEEK THAT 3898 02:03:08,881 --> 02:03:11,117 YOU SEE IN THE GROCERY STORE NOT 3899 02:03:11,117 --> 02:03:13,018 IMPACTED. IF THERE IS A, 3900 02:03:13,018 --> 02:03:14,386 DISCOUNT THAT'S ONLY AVAILABLE 3901 02:03:14,386 --> 02:03:17,523 THROUGH YOUR SHOPPER'S CART, 3902 02:03:17,523 --> 02:03:20,126 PERFECTLY FINE. GROUP DISCOUNTS, 3903 02:03:20,126 --> 02:03:22,161 SIGNING UP FOR LISTS AND 3904 02:03:22,161 --> 02:03:23,696 MANUFACTURERS COUPONS ARE ALL 3905 02:03:23,696 --> 02:03:25,998 PERMISSIBLE. AND EVEN THAT PRIOR 3906 02:03:25,998 --> 02:03:28,868 PURCHASE HISTORY DISCOUNTS ARE 3907 02:03:28,868 --> 02:03:29,835 ALSO PROTECTED. 3908 02:03:29,835 --> 02:03:31,971 -- WOULD THIS LEGISLATION 3909 02:03:31,971 --> 02:03:33,672 PREVENT A GROCERY STORE FROM 3910 02:03:33,672 --> 02:03:34,240 LOWERING PRICES OR OFFERING 3911 02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:36,642 DISCOUNTS TO CUSTOMERS? 3912 02:03:36,642 --> 02:03:36,876 -- NO. 3913 02:03:36,876 --> 02:03:39,078 -- DOES THIS ORDINANCE REGULATE 3914 02:03:39,078 --> 02:03:40,146 THE PRICE A GROCERY STORE CAN 3915 02:03:40,146 --> 02:03:42,248 CHARGE, OR DOES IT REGULATE THE 3916 02:03:42,248 --> 02:03:43,215 INFORMATION A COMPANY CAN USE TO 3917 02:03:43,215 --> 02:03:46,318 DETERMINE THAT PRICE? 3918 02:03:46,318 --> 02:03:48,521 -- TO THE SECOND QUESTION, ONLY 3919 02:03:48,521 --> 02:03:49,822 IF IT USES PERSONAL INFORMATION. 3920 02:03:49,822 --> 02:03:50,823 THEY CAN USE AGGREGATE DATA. 3921 02:03:50,823 --> 02:03:52,858 THEY CAN USE SUPPLY AND DEMAND 3922 02:03:52,858 --> 02:03:55,060 DATA. YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF 3923 02:03:55,060 --> 02:03:55,628 TYPICAL MARKET PRICING THAT 3924 02:03:55,628 --> 02:03:59,198 WE'VE SEEN FOR FOR DECADES NOT 3925 02:03:59,198 --> 02:04:01,000 IMPACTED. THEY CANNOT USE YOUR 3926 02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:02,067 PERSONAL DATA TO SET AN 3927 02:04:02,067 --> 02:04:02,668 INDIVIDUAL PRICE. THAT'S, 3928 02:04:02,668 --> 02:04:05,271 THAT'S REALLY THE CORE OF WHAT 3929 02:04:05,271 --> 02:04:07,773 THE, THE LEGISLATION DOES. 3930 02:04:07,773 --> 02:04:08,407 -- AND WOULD RETAILERS STILL BE 3931 02:04:08,407 --> 02:04:09,575 ALLOWED TO CHANGE PRICES BASED 3932 02:04:09,575 --> 02:04:11,544 ON ORDINARY BUSINESS FACTORS, 3933 02:04:11,544 --> 02:04:13,813 SUCH AS WHOLESALE COSTS, 3934 02:04:13,813 --> 02:04:15,781 INVENTORY SEASONALITY, OR STORE 3935 02:04:15,781 --> 02:04:17,416 WIDE PROMOTIONS? 3936 02:04:17,416 --> 02:04:19,351 -- YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND IT 3937 02:04:19,351 --> 02:04:21,287 DOESN'T AFFECT SORT OF SORT OF 3938 02:04:21,287 --> 02:04:22,588 POINT IN TIME PRICING. THEY CAN 3939 02:04:22,588 --> 02:04:24,023 DISCOUNT A PRODUCT AT THE END OF 3940 02:04:24,023 --> 02:04:25,624 THE DAY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE 3941 02:04:25,624 --> 02:04:27,726 BREAD'S GOING STALE. THAT'S NOT 3942 02:04:27,726 --> 02:04:28,527 IMPACTED. AGAIN, NOT JUST IT 3943 02:04:28,527 --> 02:04:30,429 DOESN'T INVOLVE PERSONAL 3944 02:04:30,429 --> 02:04:31,797 INFORMATION. SO IT'S NOT OUTSIDE 3945 02:04:31,797 --> 02:04:33,933 OF SCOPE OF THE REGULATION. 3946 02:04:33,933 --> 02:04:35,434 -- AND WOULD A RETAILER STILL BE 3947 02:04:35,434 --> 02:04:37,403 ABLE TO OFFER THE SAME LOYALTY 3948 02:04:37,403 --> 02:04:39,071 DISCOUNT TO EVERYONE WHO MEETS 3949 02:04:39,071 --> 02:04:41,774 THE SAME CLEARLY DISCLOSED 3950 02:04:41,774 --> 02:04:42,041 CRITERIA? 3951 02:04:42,041 --> 02:04:43,609 -- YES 3952 02:04:43,609 --> 02:04:45,644 -- AND IF A RETAILER USES 3953 02:04:45,644 --> 02:04:48,113 INFORMATION ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL 3954 02:04:48,113 --> 02:04:49,515 CUSTOMER TO DECIDE THAT ONE 3955 02:04:49,515 --> 02:04:51,984 PERSON RECEIVES A $1 DISCOUNT 3956 02:04:51,984 --> 02:04:53,185 WHILE ANOTHER PERSON RECEIVES NO 3957 02:04:53,185 --> 02:04:55,654 DISCOUNT ON THE SAME ITEM, IS 3958 02:04:55,654 --> 02:04:57,323 THAT FUNCTIONALLY A FORM OF 3959 02:04:57,323 --> 02:04:58,390 INDIVIDUALIZED PRICING? EVEN IF 3960 02:04:58,390 --> 02:05:01,994 THE COMPANY CALLS IT A DISCOUNT? 3961 02:05:01,994 --> 02:05:02,228 -- YES. 3962 02:05:02,228 --> 02:05:02,862 -- GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU 3963 02:05:02,862 --> 02:05:04,864 FOR THAT. AND COLLEAGUES, I'D 3964 02:05:04,864 --> 02:05:06,932 LIKE TO OPEN IT UP NOW TO YOU 3965 02:05:06,932 --> 02:05:11,871 FOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE 3966 02:05:11,871 --> 02:05:12,505 ABOUT THE DRAFT LEGISLATION. I 3967 02:05:12,505 --> 02:05:14,573 SEE A HAND FROM COUNCILMEMBER 3968 02:05:14,573 --> 02:05:14,773 SAKA. 3969 02:05:14,773 --> 02:05:19,645 -- THANK YOU, CHAIR. THE TIME IS 3970 02:05:19,645 --> 02:05:21,914 NOW TO PROTECT GROCERY 3971 02:05:21,914 --> 02:05:22,448 AFFORDABILITY FOR SEATTLE 3972 02:05:22,448 --> 02:05:24,683 CONSUMERS. THIS LEGISLATION IS 3973 02:05:24,683 --> 02:05:27,019 ESSENTIAL TO PROTECT CONSUMERS 3974 02:05:27,019 --> 02:05:28,754 FROM ALGORITHMIC PRICE GOUGING 3975 02:05:28,754 --> 02:05:29,521 AND DISCRIMINATORY SEVERITY. 3976 02:05:29,521 --> 02:05:32,258 SURVEILLANCE, PRICING FOR 3977 02:05:32,258 --> 02:05:34,793 CLARITY AS KIND OF REVEALED IN 3978 02:05:34,793 --> 02:05:38,197 THE CONVERSATION TODAY AND BY 3979 02:05:38,197 --> 02:05:40,232 THE SPECIFIC EXPRESS TERMS AND 3980 02:05:40,232 --> 02:05:42,134 CONDITIONS OF THE LEGISLATION 3981 02:05:42,134 --> 02:05:44,303 ITSELF, THIS BILL WOULD NOT BAN 3982 02:05:44,303 --> 02:05:47,172 DISCOUNTS OR LOYALTY PROGRAMS IN 3983 02:05:47,172 --> 02:05:52,711 SEATTLE, BUT IT WOULD SHUT DOWN 3984 02:05:52,711 --> 02:05:53,212 PREDATORY PRACTICES AND 3985 02:05:53,212 --> 02:05:55,748 POTENTIALLY ANTI-COMPETITIVE 3986 02:05:55,748 --> 02:05:58,017 BEHAVIORS IN ALGORITHMS. 3987 02:05:58,017 --> 02:06:00,920 IMPORTANTLY, IT WOULD ALSO 3988 02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,956 PROMOTE FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY 3989 02:06:03,956 --> 02:06:04,556 AND AFFORDABILITY BY BARRING 3990 02:06:04,556 --> 02:06:07,059 LARGE RETAILERS FROM USING 3991 02:06:07,059 --> 02:06:09,561 PERSONAL DATA TO INFLATE PRICES. 3992 02:06:09,561 --> 02:06:11,530 THIS MEASURE ENSURES A LEVEL 3993 02:06:11,530 --> 02:06:14,366 PLAYING FIELD SO THAT EVERYDAY 3994 02:06:14,366 --> 02:06:16,869 SEATTLEITES ARE NOT PENALIZED 3995 02:06:16,869 --> 02:06:20,372 FOR THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS OR 3996 02:06:20,372 --> 02:06:23,208 BROWSING HABITS. IT'S WELL 3997 02:06:23,208 --> 02:06:25,177 KNOWN THAT I REPRESENT A COUNCIL 3998 02:06:25,177 --> 02:06:27,780 DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE. WHERE 3999 02:06:27,780 --> 02:06:31,784 THERE ARE MANY FOOD DESERTS, 4000 02:06:31,784 --> 02:06:33,085 SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS, AND D1 4001 02:06:33,085 --> 02:06:36,288 LIKE SOUTH PARK, GEORGETOWN, AND 4002 02:06:36,288 --> 02:06:38,123 THE DUWAMISH VALLEY. AND THEN 4003 02:06:38,123 --> 02:06:40,392 INDEED IN WEST SEATTLE AS WELL. 4004 02:06:40,392 --> 02:06:43,195 AREAS LIKE DELRIDGE, PIGEON 4005 02:06:43,195 --> 02:06:49,902 POINT, PUGET RIDGE, WELL KNOWN 4006 02:06:49,902 --> 02:06:52,571 ESTABLISHED FOOD DESERTS. SO 4007 02:06:52,571 --> 02:06:53,105 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MY 4008 02:06:53,105 --> 02:06:54,373 CONSTITUENTS AND MY NEIGHBORS. 4009 02:06:54,373 --> 02:06:56,475 AS A DELRIDGE RESIDENT BEING 4010 02:06:56,475 --> 02:06:58,610 CHARGED MORE BY LARGE 4011 02:06:58,610 --> 02:07:00,145 CORPORATIONS WHO RECOGNIZE THAT 4012 02:07:00,145 --> 02:07:02,314 WE HAVE FEWER OPTIONS NOW, 4013 02:07:02,314 --> 02:07:05,651 WHETHER THAT THOSE INCREASED 4014 02:07:05,651 --> 02:07:07,252 PRICES ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF 4015 02:07:07,252 --> 02:07:09,688 INTENTIONAL ACTIONS OR MORE 4016 02:07:09,688 --> 02:07:16,028 LIKELY THAN NOT, BY UNREGULATED 4017 02:07:16,028 --> 02:07:17,262 ALGORITHMS RUNNING AMOK. NOW, I 4018 02:07:17,262 --> 02:07:21,166 HAVE CAREFULLY REVIEWED THIS 4019 02:07:21,166 --> 02:07:21,900 LEGISLATION. I BELIEVE THIS 4020 02:07:21,900 --> 02:07:24,770 LEGISLATION IS DIRECTIONALLY 4021 02:07:24,770 --> 02:07:27,106 CORRECT AT THE PRINCIPAL LEVEL. 4022 02:07:27,106 --> 02:07:31,210 AND AT THE PROVISION LEVEL. I 4023 02:07:31,210 --> 02:07:32,344 BELIEVE THAT IT'S EXACTLY WHAT 4024 02:07:32,344 --> 02:07:35,214 WE NEED RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THE 4025 02:07:35,214 --> 02:07:37,916 MOUNTING CONCERNS AROUND PRICING 4026 02:07:37,916 --> 02:07:39,952 DISCRIMINATION AND 4027 02:07:39,952 --> 02:07:43,055 AFFORDABILITY. NOW IS THE 4028 02:07:43,055 --> 02:07:44,289 SPECIFIC LANGUAGE CONTAINED IN 4029 02:07:44,289 --> 02:07:47,192 THE BILL PERFECT? I DON'T KNOW 4030 02:07:47,192 --> 02:07:51,430 REMAINS TO BE SEEN AS WE GO 4031 02:07:51,430 --> 02:07:51,997 THROUGH OUR COUNCIL REVIEW 4032 02:07:51,997 --> 02:07:54,633 CONSIDERATION AND DELIBERATION 4033 02:07:54,633 --> 02:07:55,434 PROCESS. BUT THE ELEMENTS ARE 4034 02:07:55,434 --> 02:07:57,770 THERE. THE PRINCIPLES ARE THERE, 4035 02:07:57,770 --> 02:08:00,039 THE PROVISIONS ARE THERE. AND 4036 02:08:00,039 --> 02:08:01,373 FOR THOSE REASONS, CHAIR RINCK, 4037 02:08:01,373 --> 02:08:04,276 I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS 4038 02:08:04,276 --> 02:08:04,910 LEGISLATION AND WOULD LIKE TO BE 4039 02:08:04,910 --> 02:08:07,846 LISTED AS A CO-SPONSOR. 4040 02:08:07,846 --> 02:08:09,281 -- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 4041 02:08:09,281 --> 02:08:11,784 SAKA. AYE. HAPPILY ACCEPT THAT 4042 02:08:11,784 --> 02:08:12,851 CO-SPONSORSHIP, AND WE'LL MAKE 4043 02:08:12,851 --> 02:08:14,153 SURE IT'S ADDED IN THE 4044 02:08:14,153 --> 02:08:15,220 LEGISLATION AS TRANSMITTED. 4045 02:08:15,220 --> 02:08:16,422 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP 4046 02:08:16,422 --> 02:08:20,659 ON THIS AND BELIEF IN THIS 4047 02:08:20,659 --> 02:08:22,494 EFFORT. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES. 4048 02:08:22,494 --> 02:08:24,163 ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR OUR 4049 02:08:24,163 --> 02:08:26,265 PANEL TODAY? VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 4050 02:08:26,265 --> 02:08:27,699 -- EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, 4051 02:08:27,699 --> 02:08:29,535 CHAIR RINCK. I REALLY APPRECIATE 4052 02:08:29,535 --> 02:08:30,903 YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS, AND I 4053 02:08:30,903 --> 02:08:32,571 JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR 4054 02:08:32,571 --> 02:08:33,772 BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AND I'M 4055 02:08:33,772 --> 02:08:35,074 SO PROUD TO CO-SPONSOR THIS WITH 4056 02:08:35,074 --> 02:08:37,042 YOU. I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY 4057 02:08:37,042 --> 02:08:38,477 APPRECIATION TO THE MAYOR AND TO 4058 02:08:38,477 --> 02:08:40,312 HER STAFF. AND KAREN, YOU'VE 4059 02:08:40,312 --> 02:08:41,680 BEEN IN FRONT OF US A FEW TIMES 4060 02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:42,881 ON POLICY. SO TO YOU ESPECIALLY, 4061 02:08:42,881 --> 02:08:45,451 I'M SURE IT'S BEEN VERY LONG 4062 02:08:45,451 --> 02:08:46,719 DAYS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS 4063 02:08:46,719 --> 02:08:48,153 FOR YOU. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 4064 02:08:48,153 --> 02:08:49,455 YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST START WITH 4065 02:08:49,455 --> 02:08:50,089 ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN 4066 02:08:50,089 --> 02:08:51,390 THINKING ABOUT, AND THEN I WILL 4067 02:08:51,390 --> 02:08:52,725 HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. BUT YOU 4068 02:08:52,725 --> 02:08:56,195 KNOW, FOR ME, WHEN I GO TO BUY 4069 02:08:56,195 --> 02:08:58,597 AN AIRLINE, AN AIRPLANE TICKET, 4070 02:08:58,597 --> 02:09:00,065 I USUALLY LEAVE MY HOUSE. I GO 4071 02:09:00,065 --> 02:09:02,334 TO THE LIBRARY OR I TURN ON. 4072 02:09:02,334 --> 02:09:04,636 YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. OR I TURN 4073 02:09:04,636 --> 02:09:07,106 ON A PRIVATE BROWSER. AND 4074 02:09:07,106 --> 02:09:07,773 THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE, YOU 4075 02:09:07,773 --> 02:09:09,208 KNOW, MAYBE I SHOULD GET A VPN, 4076 02:09:09,208 --> 02:09:13,112 BUT I'M NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO DO 4077 02:09:13,112 --> 02:09:15,414 THAT. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHEN 4078 02:09:15,414 --> 02:09:16,982 I'M BUYING AN AIRPLANE TICKET, 4079 02:09:16,982 --> 02:09:21,086 RIGHT. AND I DON'T HAVE TO BUY 4080 02:09:21,086 --> 02:09:22,855 AN AIRPLANE TICKET. BUT I KNOW 4081 02:09:22,855 --> 02:09:24,223 THAT PRICE DISCRIMINATION 4082 02:09:24,223 --> 02:09:27,259 EXISTS, BUT PEOPLE DO HAVE TO 4083 02:09:27,259 --> 02:09:28,961 BUY GROCERIES. AND SO I THINK 4084 02:09:28,961 --> 02:09:31,363 THIS LEGISLATION IS A REALLY 4085 02:09:31,363 --> 02:09:32,064 SMART WAY FOR US TO HELP ENSURE 4086 02:09:32,064 --> 02:09:34,133 THAT WE ARE PROTECTING OUR 4087 02:09:34,133 --> 02:09:36,101 RESIDENTS AND THAT WE'RE 4088 02:09:36,101 --> 02:09:36,668 BRINGING FORWARD THOUGHTFUL 4089 02:09:36,668 --> 02:09:38,437 CONSUMER PROTECTIONS SO THAT 4090 02:09:38,437 --> 02:09:39,071 PEOPLE DON'T EXPERIENCE THE 4091 02:09:39,071 --> 02:09:41,206 KIND OF PRICE DISCRIMINATION 4092 02:09:41,206 --> 02:09:41,807 THAT WE HEARD ABOUT TODAY. I 4093 02:09:41,807 --> 02:09:44,843 MEAN, HEARING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 4094 02:09:44,843 --> 02:09:45,511 20 TO 70% DIFFERENCES AND OR, 4095 02:09:45,511 --> 02:09:47,212 EXCUSE ME, 75% OF PRODUCTS 4096 02:09:47,212 --> 02:09:48,981 HAVING DIFFERENT PRICES AND A 4097 02:09:48,981 --> 02:09:51,650 POSSIBLE MORE THAN 20% PRICE 4098 02:09:51,650 --> 02:09:53,552 RANGE DIFFERENCE FOR THE EXACT 4099 02:09:53,552 --> 02:09:57,322 SAME ITEM ON THE SAME POINT IN 4100 02:09:57,322 --> 02:09:58,257 TIME FOR CUSTOMERS IS CERTAINLY, 4101 02:09:58,257 --> 02:09:59,224 I THINK, JUST SHOCKING 4102 02:09:59,224 --> 02:10:00,425 INFORMATION FOR US TO HEAR ABOUT 4103 02:10:00,425 --> 02:10:02,361 OR STANDING IN THE GROCERY STORE 4104 02:10:02,361 --> 02:10:03,695 AND STANDING NEXT TO SOMEONE AND 4105 02:10:03,695 --> 02:10:05,697 LOOKING AT THE SAME ITEM AND A 4106 02:10:05,697 --> 02:10:07,900 COUPON AND SEEING DIFFERENT 4107 02:10:07,900 --> 02:10:09,501 PRICES TARGETED BASED ON THE 4108 02:10:09,501 --> 02:10:10,702 INFORMATION THAT THAT COMPANIES 4109 02:10:10,702 --> 02:10:12,337 HAVE ABOUT US. SO I REALLY 4110 02:10:12,337 --> 02:10:13,972 APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION 4111 02:10:13,972 --> 02:10:14,640 TODAY. THE QUESTION THAT I WANT 4112 02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:16,041 TO ASK, I JUST WANT TO HEAR A 4113 02:10:16,041 --> 02:10:19,545 LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE 4114 02:10:19,545 --> 02:10:21,980 STRATEGY FOR PROTECTING SMALL 4115 02:10:21,980 --> 02:10:22,881 GROCERS AND FOR PROTECTING STORE 4116 02:10:22,881 --> 02:10:23,815 BASED PRICING. CAN YOU SPEAK TO 4117 02:10:23,815 --> 02:10:26,285 THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? 4118 02:10:26,285 --> 02:10:27,853 -- YEAH. THE FIRST ONE IS, IS 4119 02:10:27,853 --> 02:10:29,488 VERY CLEARLY DELINEATED IN THE 4120 02:10:29,488 --> 02:10:31,190 ORDINANCE. IT JUST DOESN'T IT 4121 02:10:31,190 --> 02:10:33,392 DOES NOT COVER RETAILERS THAT 4122 02:10:33,392 --> 02:10:36,728 HAVE 20 OR I SHOULD SAY 19 OR 4123 02:10:36,728 --> 02:10:38,130 FEWER LOCATIONS. 20 OR MORE ARE 4124 02:10:38,130 --> 02:10:42,601 COVERED. SO AND YOU KNOW, IF 4125 02:10:42,601 --> 02:10:43,569 COUNCILMEMBERS ARE INTERESTED, 4126 02:10:43,569 --> 02:10:45,103 WE CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE 4127 02:10:45,103 --> 02:10:46,705 DETAILED SKETCH OF EXACTLY WHO 4128 02:10:46,705 --> 02:10:48,073 THOSE RETAILERS ARE. BUT, YOU 4129 02:10:48,073 --> 02:10:49,408 KNOW, THE, THE DATA THAT WE'VE 4130 02:10:49,408 --> 02:10:52,010 LOOKED AT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S 4131 02:10:52,010 --> 02:10:52,945 PCC, WHICH HAS IN THE 4132 02:10:52,945 --> 02:10:54,813 NEIGHBORHOOD OF 15 TO 17 4133 02:10:54,813 --> 02:10:57,716 LOCATIONS WITH ABOUT FOUR RED 4134 02:10:57,716 --> 02:10:59,284 APPLE AND GROCERY OUTLET, 4135 02:10:59,284 --> 02:11:00,252 THAT'S SORT OF THE TOP OF THE 4136 02:11:00,252 --> 02:11:04,756 LIST. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S 4137 02:11:04,756 --> 02:11:05,657 PROBABLY A SEVERAL OTHER SMALLER 4138 02:11:05,657 --> 02:11:07,693 ONES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 4139 02:11:07,693 --> 02:11:08,260 LOCATIONS THAT WE CAN ALSO 4140 02:11:08,260 --> 02:11:10,662 FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ALL ABOUT 4141 02:11:10,662 --> 02:11:12,130 ALSO DOES NOT COVER SORT OF 4142 02:11:12,130 --> 02:11:14,499 SMALL MARKETS UNDER 10,000FT . 4143 02:11:14,499 --> 02:11:18,904 OR, OR CONVENIENCE STORES. SO, 4144 02:11:18,904 --> 02:11:21,306 SO I THINK THAT'S THE, YOU 4145 02:11:21,306 --> 02:11:22,574 KNOW, THAT'S THE FIRST 4146 02:11:22,574 --> 02:11:24,009 QUESTION. IF YOU COULD JUST 4147 02:11:24,009 --> 02:11:25,644 REPEAT THE SECOND. 4148 02:11:25,644 --> 02:11:26,411 -- OH, THE STORE BASED PRICING 4149 02:11:26,411 --> 02:11:28,113 AND, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR A 4150 02:11:28,113 --> 02:11:30,949 STORE TO OFFER A DISCOUNT FOR 4151 02:11:30,949 --> 02:11:31,416 PARTICULAR LOCATION. 4152 02:11:31,416 --> 02:11:35,187 -- THANK YOU. YEAH. AT THE, AT 4153 02:11:35,187 --> 02:11:36,622 THE OUTSET, I'LL JUST SAY THAT 4154 02:11:36,622 --> 02:11:38,957 DOESN'T INVOLVE PERSONAL 4155 02:11:38,957 --> 02:11:41,159 INFORMATION AT ALL. SO ACTUALLY, 4156 02:11:41,159 --> 02:11:42,761 IT WAS A BIT OF AN INTERESTING 4157 02:11:42,761 --> 02:11:45,964 PROCESS AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS 4158 02:11:45,964 --> 02:11:47,299 DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT CAPTURED 4159 02:11:47,299 --> 02:11:49,434 IN THE DEFINITION OF ALGORITHMIC 4160 02:11:49,434 --> 02:11:51,169 PRICE DISCRIMINATION PERIOD. WE 4161 02:11:51,169 --> 02:11:53,505 DID HEAR CONCERN FROM RETAILERS 4162 02:11:53,505 --> 02:11:54,773 THAT IT COULD BE CONSTRUED IN 4163 02:11:54,773 --> 02:11:57,476 THAT WAY. SO WE, WE, WE, WE PUT 4164 02:11:57,476 --> 02:11:58,076 INTO THE LANGUAGE A SPECIFIC 4165 02:11:58,076 --> 02:12:00,712 CARVE OUT THAT MAKE THAT CLEAR 4166 02:12:00,712 --> 02:12:03,048 THAT LOCATION BY LOCATION. 4167 02:12:03,048 --> 02:12:03,882 PRICING IS NOT IMPACTED BY THE 4168 02:12:03,882 --> 02:12:05,617 LEGISLATION. SO THAT'S SORT OF 4169 02:12:05,617 --> 02:12:07,920 REFLECTIVE OF THAT STAKEHOLDER 4170 02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:08,520 PROCESS AND THAT DIALOG WITH 4171 02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:09,688 RETAILERS WANTING TO MAKE SURE 4172 02:12:09,688 --> 02:12:10,989 WE HAD IT, YOU KNOW, BUTTONED 4173 02:12:10,989 --> 02:12:12,891 UP. SO FOLKS WERE 100% 4174 02:12:12,891 --> 02:12:15,694 COMFORTABLE THAT THOSE TYPES OF 4175 02:12:15,694 --> 02:12:17,229 PRACTICES OF ANALYZING EITHER 4176 02:12:17,229 --> 02:12:18,397 WHAT THEY THINK THE A PARTICULAR 4177 02:12:18,397 --> 02:12:20,165 REGION OR MARKET CAN BEAR BASED 4178 02:12:20,165 --> 02:12:22,067 ON AGGREGATE DATA IS TOTALLY 4179 02:12:22,067 --> 02:12:25,570 FINE. OR IF THERE'S SIMPLY 4180 02:12:25,570 --> 02:12:26,138 DIFFERENT SUPPLY AND DEMAND 4181 02:12:26,138 --> 02:12:28,573 CONCERNS BY, FOR PROVIDING A 4182 02:12:28,573 --> 02:12:30,208 PRODUCT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS 4183 02:12:30,208 --> 02:12:31,643 IN THE CITY. 4184 02:12:31,643 --> 02:12:32,678 -- THANK YOU. THAT'S REALLY 4185 02:12:32,678 --> 02:12:33,979 HELPFUL. AND CHAIR, JUST ONE 4186 02:12:33,979 --> 02:12:35,180 FINAL QUESTION FOR ME. YOU KNOW, 4187 02:12:35,180 --> 02:12:37,883 ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, JUST AS 4188 02:12:37,883 --> 02:12:40,052 A AS A MOM WHO BUYS STUFF IN THE 4189 02:12:40,052 --> 02:12:42,454 CITY IS INCREASINGLY GOING INTO 4190 02:12:42,454 --> 02:12:43,956 GROCERY STORES AND SEEING THE 4191 02:12:43,956 --> 02:12:44,589 ELECTRONIC SHELF LABELS. THEY 4192 02:12:44,589 --> 02:12:47,793 KIND OF JUST STICK OUT WHEN YOU 4193 02:12:47,793 --> 02:12:49,294 SEE THEM. AND WHEN I THE FIRST 4194 02:12:49,294 --> 02:12:49,895 TIME I SAW THEM, I WAS LIKE, 4195 02:12:49,895 --> 02:12:50,629 WHAT'S, WHAT'S THIS? WHAT'S 4196 02:12:50,629 --> 02:12:52,064 GOING ON HERE? AND, AND, YOU 4197 02:12:52,064 --> 02:12:53,432 KNOW, CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'S 4198 02:12:53,432 --> 02:12:55,033 QUESTIONS THAT THEY RAISE. BUT 4199 02:12:55,033 --> 02:12:57,569 MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS 4200 02:12:57,569 --> 02:12:58,603 LEGISLATION DOES NOT BAN THOSE 4201 02:12:58,603 --> 02:12:59,705 SHELF LABELS. THOSE STORES WILL 4202 02:12:59,705 --> 02:13:00,505 STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO 4203 02:13:00,505 --> 02:13:01,940 THOSE. IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE 4204 02:13:01,940 --> 02:13:04,242 BANNING THE USE OF THOSE LABELS 4205 02:13:04,242 --> 02:13:05,610 FOR ALGORITHMIC PRICING. IS THAT 4206 02:13:05,610 --> 02:13:07,145 CORRECT? 4207 02:13:07,145 --> 02:13:08,980 -- THAT'S CORRECT. WE KNOW THAT 4208 02:13:08,980 --> 02:13:10,382 AGAIN, REFLECTIVE OF THE 4209 02:13:10,382 --> 02:13:12,617 ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. WE WE WE HAD 4210 02:13:12,617 --> 02:13:13,885 WE KNOW THAT SOME RETAILERS HAVE 4211 02:13:13,885 --> 02:13:16,154 ALREADY INVESTED IN THIS 4212 02:13:16,154 --> 02:13:18,357 TECHNOLOGY AND THEY'RE ROLLING 4213 02:13:18,357 --> 02:13:20,926 IT OUT. THIS LEGISLATION ISN'T 4214 02:13:20,926 --> 02:13:21,460 ABOUT INTERRUPTING THOSE 4215 02:13:21,460 --> 02:13:22,427 INVESTMENTS AND THAT THAT 4216 02:13:22,427 --> 02:13:24,096 TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY MAY THINK 4217 02:13:24,096 --> 02:13:26,898 IS APPROPRIATE. IT'S REALLY 4218 02:13:26,898 --> 02:13:28,467 FOCUSED ON ALGORITHMIC PRICE 4219 02:13:28,467 --> 02:13:31,269 DISCRIMINATION, USE OF PERSONAL 4220 02:13:31,269 --> 02:13:32,504 DATA. SO THE REGULATION OF 4221 02:13:32,504 --> 02:13:33,572 ELECTRONIC SHELF LABELS IS, IS 4222 02:13:33,572 --> 02:13:35,607 VERY CLEARLY TAILORED ONLY TO 4223 02:13:35,607 --> 02:13:38,610 DISPLAYING PRICES THAT ARE 4224 02:13:38,610 --> 02:13:40,178 ALGORITHMICALLY MODIFIED BASED 4225 02:13:40,178 --> 02:13:40,912 ON PERSONAL DATA. 4226 02:13:40,912 --> 02:13:43,582 -- THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK 4227 02:13:43,582 --> 02:13:43,882 YOU. CHAIR. 4228 02:13:43,882 --> 02:13:46,551 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. FOSTER 4229 02:13:46,551 --> 02:13:47,185 COLLEAGUES, IN THE INTEREST OF 4230 02:13:47,185 --> 02:13:48,286 TIME, I AM GOING TO KEEP US 4231 02:13:48,286 --> 02:13:49,521 MOVING ALONG FOR TODAY'S AGENDA, 4232 02:13:49,521 --> 02:13:53,692 BUT I WANT TO LEAD US INTO SOME 4233 02:13:53,692 --> 02:13:56,161 STEPS ON PROCESS AND TIMELINE. 4234 02:13:56,161 --> 02:13:58,063 THE DRAFT WILL BE ON THE IRC 4235 02:13:58,063 --> 02:14:00,132 NEXT WEEK, AT WHICH POINT 4236 02:14:00,132 --> 02:14:01,700 CENTRAL STAFF WILL FINISH THEIR 4237 02:14:01,700 --> 02:14:03,602 WORK ON THEIR BILL MEMO. I 4238 02:14:03,602 --> 02:14:04,870 BELIEVE THAT WE CAN EXPECT THAT 4239 02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:06,171 BY THE END OF THE WEEK. SO HUGE. 4240 02:14:06,171 --> 02:14:07,439 THANK YOU AGAIN TO JASMINE AND 4241 02:14:07,439 --> 02:14:10,042 TOMASO. AMENDMENT CONCEPTS WILL 4242 02:14:10,042 --> 02:14:11,777 BE DUE A FEW DAYS AFTER THE 4243 02:14:11,777 --> 02:14:12,711 RELEASE OF THE CENTRAL STAFF 4244 02:14:12,711 --> 02:14:15,380 MEMO. CENTRAL STAFF WILL INCLUDE 4245 02:14:15,380 --> 02:14:18,450 SPECIFIC DUE DATES WITH THEIR 4246 02:14:18,450 --> 02:14:19,051 MEMO EMAIL AND AT THE AUGUST 4247 02:14:19,051 --> 02:14:20,552 21st MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE, 4248 02:14:20,552 --> 02:14:22,687 WE WILL BE BRIEFED BY CENTRAL 4249 02:14:22,687 --> 02:14:23,321 STAFF ON POLICY CONSIDERATIONS 4250 02:14:23,321 --> 02:14:26,892 OF THIS BILL AND, IMPORTANTLY, 4251 02:14:26,892 --> 02:14:27,392 ANY COUNCILMEMBERS WITH 4252 02:14:27,392 --> 02:14:28,193 AMENDMENT CONCEPTS WILL BE ASKED 4253 02:14:28,193 --> 02:14:30,362 TO SPEAK TO THEM THEMSELVES IN 4254 02:14:30,362 --> 02:14:32,864 THIS COMMITTEE. SO AGAIN, 4255 02:14:32,864 --> 02:14:35,067 THAT'S HAPPENING ON AUGUST 21st 4256 02:14:35,067 --> 02:14:37,135 IN OUR FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING 4257 02:14:37,135 --> 02:14:37,736 FOLLOWING COUNCIL RECESS, WE 4258 02:14:37,736 --> 02:14:39,438 WILL VOTE ON AMENDMENTS ON THE 4259 02:14:39,438 --> 02:14:41,506 UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. MY TEAM 4260 02:14:41,506 --> 02:14:43,842 AND CENTRAL STAFFERS ARE 4261 02:14:43,842 --> 02:14:46,445 AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT 4262 02:14:46,445 --> 02:14:47,579 FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 4263 02:14:47,579 --> 02:14:48,814 BUT WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK 4264 02:14:48,814 --> 02:14:50,782 OUR PRESENTERS AGAIN FOR COMING 4265 02:14:50,782 --> 02:14:52,417 TODAY, PARTICULARLY OUR FOLKS, 4266 02:14:52,417 --> 02:14:54,419 OUR NATIONAL EXPERTS, FOR COMING 4267 02:14:54,419 --> 02:14:55,987 ONLINE AND SHARING A BIT ABOUT 4268 02:14:55,987 --> 02:14:56,488 YOUR RESEARCH AND YOUR 4269 02:14:56,488 --> 02:14:57,823 EXPERTISE. IT WAS TREMENDOUSLY 4270 02:14:57,823 --> 02:14:59,825 VALUABLE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR 4271 02:14:59,825 --> 02:15:01,359 PARTNERSHIP ON THIS. AND THANK 4272 02:15:01,359 --> 02:15:02,127 YOU AGAIN FOR WALKING US THROUGH 4273 02:15:02,127 --> 02:15:02,727 THE BILL AND FOR ALL OF YOUR 4274 02:15:02,727 --> 02:15:04,196 HARD WORK BRINGING US HERE 4275 02:15:04,196 --> 02:15:05,297 TODAY. THANK YOU. 4276 02:15:05,297 --> 02:15:08,733 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 4277 02:15:08,733 --> 02:15:10,936 -- [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] 4278 02:15:10,936 --> 02:15:11,837 -- PAUL. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL 4279 02:15:11,837 --> 02:15:14,039 NOW MOVE TO OUR THIRD AND FINAL 4280 02:15:14,039 --> 02:15:15,140 ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK 4281 02:15:15,140 --> 02:15:17,109 PLEASE READ ITEM THREE INTO THE 4282 02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:18,276 RECORD? 4283 02:15:18,276 --> 02:15:19,978 -- ITEM THREE KING, KING COUNTY 4284 02:15:19,978 --> 02:15:21,880 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY, 4285 02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:22,514 CASEY R H CONTRACTS TRANSITION 4286 02:15:22,514 --> 02:15:24,149 PLAN BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. 4287 02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:25,584 -- ALL RIGHT. AS OUR PRESENTERS 4288 02:15:25,584 --> 02:15:26,818 ARE SETTLING IN AT THE TABLE, I 4289 02:15:26,818 --> 02:15:27,919 AM GOING TO SAY TO THE TOP 4290 02:15:27,919 --> 02:15:29,387 COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GOING TO END 4291 02:15:29,387 --> 02:15:30,722 AT NOON TODAY. I KNOW FOLKS HAVE 4292 02:15:30,722 --> 02:15:31,923 A HARD STOP, BUT GIVEN THE 4293 02:15:31,923 --> 02:15:32,691 IMPORTANCE OF THE TOPIC, I 4294 02:15:32,691 --> 02:15:35,360 WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AT 4295 02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:36,328 LEAST GOT THE PRESENTATION READ 4296 02:15:36,328 --> 02:15:37,829 INTO THE RECORD WITH AN 4297 02:15:37,829 --> 02:15:39,731 EXPECTATION THAT FOLLOW UP 4298 02:15:39,731 --> 02:15:41,066 QUESTIONS CAN COME UP, AND WE 4299 02:15:41,066 --> 02:15:43,301 KNOW THE CONVERSATION RELATED TO 4300 02:15:43,301 --> 02:15:44,769 KCRA WILL BE CONTINUING AS WE 4301 02:15:44,769 --> 02:15:47,639 NAVIGATE THE TRANSITION. SO HUGE 4302 02:15:47,639 --> 02:15:49,307 APOLOGIES TO OUR FRIENDS AT HSD. 4303 02:15:49,307 --> 02:15:51,309 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. AND 4304 02:15:51,309 --> 02:15:52,744 WITH THAT, WHEN YOU ARE READY, I 4305 02:15:52,744 --> 02:16:03,188 WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 4306 02:16:04,623 --> 02:16:06,057 -- GREAT. GOOD MORNING. FOR THE 4307 02:16:06,057 --> 02:16:08,059 RECORD, MARK ELLENBROOK, I'M THE 4308 02:16:08,059 --> 02:16:09,194 DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR CITY 4309 02:16:09,194 --> 02:16:10,996 GOVERNANCE AND HUMAN SERVICES IN 4310 02:16:10,996 --> 02:16:12,497 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. I'LL HAVE 4311 02:16:12,497 --> 02:16:14,199 THE OTHER FOLKS INTRODUCE 4312 02:16:14,199 --> 02:16:15,333 THEMSELVES, AND THEN WE WILL GET 4313 02:16:15,333 --> 02:16:16,167 STARTED. 4314 02:16:16,167 --> 02:16:17,202 -- GOOD MORNING. TANYA KIM, 4315 02:16:17,202 --> 02:16:19,771 DIRECTOR OF THE SEATTLE HUMAN 4316 02:16:19,771 --> 02:16:20,238 SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 4317 02:16:20,238 --> 02:16:21,506 -- CHRIS GLEASON, DEPUTY 4318 02:16:21,506 --> 02:16:22,040 DIRECTOR, HUMAN SERVICES 4319 02:16:22,040 --> 02:16:22,674 DEPARTMENT. 4320 02:16:22,674 --> 02:16:24,042 -- GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY 4321 02:16:24,042 --> 02:16:27,145 MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY THANK 4322 02:16:27,145 --> 02:16:28,413 YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK, FOR 4323 02:16:28,413 --> 02:16:30,348 THE INTRODUCTION. WE ARE HERE TO 4324 02:16:30,348 --> 02:16:31,316 TALK ABOUT THE KING COUNTY 4325 02:16:31,316 --> 02:16:33,852 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY 4326 02:16:33,852 --> 02:16:34,920 AND THE SET OF STEPS THAT WE ARE 4327 02:16:34,920 --> 02:16:37,322 GOING THROUGH SPECIFICALLY TODAY 4328 02:16:37,322 --> 02:16:38,690 RELATED TO THE CONTRACT 4329 02:16:38,690 --> 02:16:39,357 TRANSITIONS PLAN. SO WE WILL 4330 02:16:39,357 --> 02:16:40,659 WALK THROUGH THOSE STEPS AND 4331 02:16:40,659 --> 02:16:42,093 HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WE 4332 02:16:42,093 --> 02:16:44,396 GO THROUGH IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO 4333 02:16:44,396 --> 02:16:45,797 TALK ABOUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES 4334 02:16:45,797 --> 02:16:48,500 AND KEY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE 4335 02:16:48,500 --> 02:16:50,335 HAVE CONSIDERED. I THINK US 4336 02:16:50,335 --> 02:16:51,836 TOGETHER WITH KING COUNTY AND 4337 02:16:51,836 --> 02:16:53,572 OTHER PARTNERS, STABILIZING AND 4338 02:16:53,572 --> 02:16:54,906 RIGHTSIZING THE KING COUNTY 4339 02:16:54,906 --> 02:16:56,541 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY, 4340 02:16:56,541 --> 02:16:58,143 OUR CONTRACT TRANSITION PLAN, 4341 02:16:58,143 --> 02:17:00,278 HSD STAFFING, AND THEN WE WILL 4342 02:17:00,278 --> 02:17:02,447 ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO ONE OF THE 4343 02:17:02,447 --> 02:17:03,782 THINGS, JUST BY WAY OF 4344 02:17:03,782 --> 02:17:05,517 BACKGROUND, FOLKS KNOW THAT 4345 02:17:05,517 --> 02:17:09,087 THERE WAS A FORENSIC EVALUATION, 4346 02:17:09,087 --> 02:17:09,621 THE KING COUNTY REGIONAL 4347 02:17:09,621 --> 02:17:12,190 HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY, BACK IN 4348 02:17:12,190 --> 02:17:13,291 THE LATE WINTER, EARLY SPRING 4349 02:17:13,291 --> 02:17:16,628 THAT IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF 4350 02:17:16,628 --> 02:17:17,996 CONCERNS ABOUT FINANCIAL 4351 02:17:17,996 --> 02:17:19,497 PRACTICES AND OTHER PRACTICES. 4352 02:17:19,497 --> 02:17:20,231 SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE BEEN 4353 02:17:20,231 --> 02:17:23,101 HAVING A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION, 4354 02:17:23,101 --> 02:17:24,703 A REGIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT 4355 02:17:24,703 --> 02:17:25,537 THE REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS 4356 02:17:25,537 --> 02:17:26,871 AUTHORITY, AND WHAT ARE THE 4357 02:17:26,871 --> 02:17:29,240 APPROPRIATE STEPS TO HELP. I 4358 02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:31,209 THINK RIGHT SIZE AND SUPPORT THE 4359 02:17:31,209 --> 02:17:31,843 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY. 4360 02:17:31,843 --> 02:17:33,578 AT THE SAME TIME, BY DOING RIGHT 4361 02:17:33,578 --> 02:17:35,313 BY THE FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING 4362 02:17:35,313 --> 02:17:37,082 HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND 4363 02:17:37,082 --> 02:17:39,551 SAFEGUARDING OUR FUNDS. AND SO 4364 02:17:39,551 --> 02:17:41,319 PART OF THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN 4365 02:17:41,319 --> 02:17:43,321 THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DELIVERY 4366 02:17:43,321 --> 02:17:44,022 OF A REPORT TO COUNCIL, WHICH WE 4367 02:17:44,022 --> 02:17:45,924 WILL PROVIDE THE INFORMATION ON 4368 02:17:45,924 --> 02:17:48,360 THAT TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE 4369 02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,161 STEPS THAT WE ARE DOING TO WORK 4370 02:17:50,161 --> 02:17:50,795 WITH THE REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS 4371 02:17:50,795 --> 02:17:52,163 AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS THE 4372 02:17:52,163 --> 02:17:55,367 TRANSITION OF CONTRACTS BACK TO 4373 02:17:55,367 --> 02:17:56,001 THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND ALSO TO 4374 02:17:56,001 --> 02:17:58,403 KING COUNTY. IN DOING THAT, WE 4375 02:17:58,403 --> 02:18:01,172 CONSIDERED A NUMBER OF GUIDING 4376 02:18:01,172 --> 02:18:03,041 PRINCIPLES TO MAKE SURE THAT 4377 02:18:03,041 --> 02:18:04,509 THAT SET OF PROCESSES, IN FACT, 4378 02:18:04,509 --> 02:18:08,046 WAS TRUE TO OUR REGIONAL VALUES. 4379 02:18:08,046 --> 02:18:10,348 WE CAN REMAIN COMMITTED TO 4380 02:18:10,348 --> 02:18:10,982 PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY SHELTER 4381 02:18:10,982 --> 02:18:12,250 SERVICES AND HOUSING TO THE 4382 02:18:12,250 --> 02:18:13,385 FOLKS WHO ARE THE MOST 4383 02:18:13,385 --> 02:18:15,387 VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND 4384 02:18:15,387 --> 02:18:16,254 OUR LIVING HOMELESS, BOTH IN THE 4385 02:18:16,254 --> 02:18:17,856 CITY OF SEATTLE AND THROUGHOUT 4386 02:18:17,856 --> 02:18:19,424 OUR REGION. CONTINUING TO WORK 4387 02:18:19,424 --> 02:18:21,726 TO CREATE CLEAR PATHWAYS FOR 4388 02:18:21,726 --> 02:18:23,094 INDIVIDUALS TO EXIT 4389 02:18:23,094 --> 02:18:23,995 HOMELESSNESS, TO SHELTER AND 4390 02:18:23,995 --> 02:18:25,063 SERVICES, AND TO LONG TERM 4391 02:18:25,063 --> 02:18:26,231 HOUSING. THAT HAS BEEN A LONG 4392 02:18:26,231 --> 02:18:28,033 TERM GOAL OF THIS REGION. AND 4393 02:18:28,033 --> 02:18:30,035 THIS REGION HAS ACTUALLY 4394 02:18:30,035 --> 02:18:30,635 DEVELOPED SOME OF THE LEADING 4395 02:18:30,635 --> 02:18:32,871 AND MOST EFFECTIVE PATHWAYS FOR 4396 02:18:32,871 --> 02:18:34,839 FOLKS EXITING HOMELESSNESS. AND 4397 02:18:34,839 --> 02:18:37,308 THEN I THINK, CONTINUING TO 4398 02:18:37,308 --> 02:18:38,510 STRESS THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A 4399 02:18:38,510 --> 02:18:40,278 REGIONAL ISSUE. AT THE END OF 4400 02:18:40,278 --> 02:18:41,046 THE DAY, FOLKS, JUST LIKE ALL OF 4401 02:18:41,046 --> 02:18:44,115 US, ARE FREE TO MOVE THROUGHOUT 4402 02:18:44,115 --> 02:18:45,583 OUR REGION FOR OPPORTUNITY. AND 4403 02:18:45,583 --> 02:18:46,584 THAT IS ALSO TRUE AMONG THE 4404 02:18:46,584 --> 02:18:47,385 PEOPLE WHO ARE UNFORTUNATELY, 4405 02:18:47,385 --> 02:18:48,353 LIVING HOMELESS IN OUR 4406 02:18:48,353 --> 02:18:50,655 COMMUNITY. SO IT TAKES A 4407 02:18:50,655 --> 02:18:52,023 RESPONSE FROM ALL THE FOLKS 4408 02:18:52,023 --> 02:18:53,358 THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY TO BE 4409 02:18:53,358 --> 02:18:56,995 EFFECTIVE IN THAT SPACE. KEY 4410 02:18:56,995 --> 02:18:58,229 CONSIDERATIONS. AS WE THOUGHT 4411 02:18:58,229 --> 02:18:58,763 ABOUT NEXT STEPS WITH THE 4412 02:18:58,763 --> 02:18:59,931 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY, 4413 02:18:59,931 --> 02:19:02,033 FIRST AND FOREMOST, PROTECTING 4414 02:19:02,033 --> 02:19:04,369 FEDERAL FUNDING FOR OUR REGION. 4415 02:19:04,369 --> 02:19:05,870 JUST AS AN ASIDE, FOLKS MAY OR 4416 02:19:05,870 --> 02:19:10,942 MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT THERE HAD 4417 02:19:10,942 --> 02:19:13,211 BEEN CHALLENGE TO THE HUD'S 4418 02:19:13,211 --> 02:19:14,913 CONTINUUM OF CARE NOFO FOR THIS 4419 02:19:14,913 --> 02:19:16,648 YEAR, IT WAS CHALLENGED BY 4420 02:19:16,648 --> 02:19:17,682 WASHINGTON STATE ATTORNEY 4421 02:19:17,682 --> 02:19:18,650 GENERAL AND OTHERS, AND WE HEARD 4422 02:19:18,650 --> 02:19:19,751 TODAY THAT, IN FACT, THAT 4423 02:19:19,751 --> 02:19:21,920 CHALLENGE WAS UPHELD. SO THE 4424 02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:25,657 CONTINUUM OF CARE NOFO THAT HUD 4425 02:19:25,657 --> 02:19:26,291 ISSUED THAT REALLY CHANGED THE 4426 02:19:26,291 --> 02:19:28,526 PRIORITIES FOR HOMELESSNESS 4427 02:19:28,526 --> 02:19:29,494 RESPONSE, MOVING AWAY FROM 4428 02:19:29,494 --> 02:19:32,630 PROVEN STRATEGIES LIKE PERMANENT 4429 02:19:32,630 --> 02:19:33,231 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO THINGS 4430 02:19:33,231 --> 02:19:36,668 LIKE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WITH 4431 02:19:36,668 --> 02:19:38,303 REQUIREMENTS THAT NOFO HAS 4432 02:19:38,303 --> 02:19:39,037 ACTUALLY BEEN STRUCK DOWN. AND 4433 02:19:39,037 --> 02:19:41,372 HUD WILL NEED TO CONSIDER OR 4434 02:19:41,372 --> 02:19:42,173 RECONSIDER HOW THEY MOVE FORWARD 4435 02:19:42,173 --> 02:19:45,210 SO THAT, FRANKLY, FOR HOW WE 4436 02:19:45,210 --> 02:19:46,745 RESPOND TO HOMELESSNESS IN THIS 4437 02:19:46,745 --> 02:19:48,413 COMMUNITY IS A POSITIVE. 4438 02:19:48,413 --> 02:19:51,483 ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO STRESS 4439 02:19:51,483 --> 02:19:52,784 MINIMIZING SERVICE DISRUPTION 4440 02:19:52,784 --> 02:19:53,418 FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR CLIENTS, 4441 02:19:53,418 --> 02:19:55,754 FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO END 4442 02:19:55,754 --> 02:19:58,089 THEIR OWN HOMELESSNESS, BUT ALSO 4443 02:19:58,089 --> 02:19:59,124 FOR OUR PROVIDERS THAT WE WORK 4444 02:19:59,124 --> 02:20:00,458 WITH EVERY DAY. AND THEN, AS I 4445 02:20:00,458 --> 02:20:02,193 HAD MENTIONED, REALLY 4446 02:20:02,193 --> 02:20:02,961 MAINTAINING A REGIONAL APPROACH 4447 02:20:02,961 --> 02:20:07,565 TO HOMELESSNESS. SO WHAT WHERE 4448 02:20:07,565 --> 02:20:08,933 WE ARE KIND OF HAVE BEEN AND 4449 02:20:08,933 --> 02:20:11,269 WHERE WE ARE GOING, FOLKS MAY 4450 02:20:11,269 --> 02:20:18,243 REMEMBER EARLY IN JULY, MAYOR 4451 02:20:18,243 --> 02:20:18,777 WILSON AND EXECUTIVE ZALI 4452 02:20:18,777 --> 02:20:19,778 ANNOUNCED A PLAN TO STABILIZE 4453 02:20:19,778 --> 02:20:21,479 AND RIGHTSIZE THE KING COUNTY 4454 02:20:21,479 --> 02:20:22,547 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY. 4455 02:20:22,547 --> 02:20:24,649 THIS FOLLOWED UP THE FORENSIC 4456 02:20:24,649 --> 02:20:25,183 EVALUATION THAT I ALREADY 4457 02:20:25,183 --> 02:20:26,584 DISCUSSED. THIS REALLY IS AN 4458 02:20:26,584 --> 02:20:28,153 EFFORT TO GET THE REGIONAL 4459 02:20:28,153 --> 02:20:30,054 HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY TO FOCUS 4460 02:20:30,054 --> 02:20:32,223 ON ITS CORE MISSION, AND I'LL 4461 02:20:32,223 --> 02:20:33,725 TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT 4462 02:20:33,725 --> 02:20:37,328 THAT IN A SECOND. WHILE 4463 02:20:37,328 --> 02:20:38,596 STRENGTHENING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR 4464 02:20:38,596 --> 02:20:40,565 THE CONTRACTS AND THE FUNDING. 4465 02:20:40,565 --> 02:20:41,866 AND BOTH I AND THE FOLKS FROM 4466 02:20:41,866 --> 02:20:42,467 THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT 4467 02:20:42,467 --> 02:20:43,334 WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 4468 02:20:43,334 --> 02:20:46,471 THAT. A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT IS 4469 02:20:46,471 --> 02:20:48,206 RETURNING CITY FUNDS AND COUNTY 4470 02:20:48,206 --> 02:20:50,074 FUNDS. THESE ARE LOCAL DOLLARS, 4471 02:20:50,074 --> 02:20:52,577 NOT THE FEDERAL CONTINUUM OF 4472 02:20:52,577 --> 02:20:55,013 CARE FUNDS TO OUR RESPECTIVE 4473 02:20:55,013 --> 02:20:56,214 GOVERNMENTS STARTING IN 2027. 4474 02:20:56,214 --> 02:20:59,417 AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO 4475 02:20:59,417 --> 02:21:00,618 MORE DETAIL AROUND THAT 4476 02:21:00,618 --> 02:21:03,755 TRANSITION PLAN IN A MINUTE. SO 4477 02:21:03,755 --> 02:21:05,824 THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE HERE 4478 02:21:05,824 --> 02:21:06,391 REALLY IS TO STABILIZE THE 4479 02:21:06,391 --> 02:21:08,660 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY 4480 02:21:08,660 --> 02:21:09,794 AND MITIGATE OUR RISKS. THAT 4481 02:21:09,794 --> 02:21:12,597 FOCUSES ON FOUR MAIN AREAS. I'VE 4482 02:21:12,597 --> 02:21:13,231 MENTIONED ALREADY THE IMPORTANCE 4483 02:21:13,231 --> 02:21:16,034 OF MAINTAINING SERVICES. WE HEAR 4484 02:21:16,034 --> 02:21:16,668 THAT NOT ONLY FOR THE FOLKS WHO 4485 02:21:16,668 --> 02:21:19,270 ARE LIVING HOMELESS, BUT ALSO 4486 02:21:19,270 --> 02:21:21,072 FOR OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS. WE 4487 02:21:21,072 --> 02:21:23,308 NEED TO HAVE SHELTER, PERMANENT 4488 02:21:23,308 --> 02:21:25,176 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, OUTREACH 4489 02:21:25,176 --> 02:21:25,677 SERVICES CONTINUE TO BE 4490 02:21:25,677 --> 02:21:28,379 AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS AND HAVE NO 4491 02:21:28,379 --> 02:21:29,747 BREAK IN. SERVICE PROVIDERS 4492 02:21:29,747 --> 02:21:32,750 CERTAINLY NEED TO CONTINUE TO 4493 02:21:32,750 --> 02:21:33,318 RECEIVE THEIR PAYMENTS AND 4494 02:21:33,318 --> 02:21:34,986 STABILITY HERE REMAINS A 4495 02:21:34,986 --> 02:21:36,187 PRIORITY. SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE 4496 02:21:36,187 --> 02:21:37,922 HEARD FROM ADVOCATES, FROM 4497 02:21:37,922 --> 02:21:40,391 PROVIDERS, FROM FOLKS 4498 02:21:40,391 --> 02:21:41,726 REPRESENTING THE HOMELESS 4499 02:21:41,726 --> 02:21:44,062 THEMSELVES. WE WANT TO FOCUS ON 4500 02:21:44,062 --> 02:21:44,562 STRENGTHENING FINANCIAL 4501 02:21:44,562 --> 02:21:46,231 OVERSIGHT. WE HAVE WORKED TO 4502 02:21:46,231 --> 02:21:49,234 PLACE AN INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL 4503 02:21:49,234 --> 02:21:51,603 ENTITY WITH THE KING COUNTY 4504 02:21:51,603 --> 02:21:53,838 REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY, 4505 02:21:53,838 --> 02:21:55,373 DESIGNED TO ADDRESS A NUMBER OF 4506 02:21:55,373 --> 02:21:58,076 THE SHORTFALLS THAT THE FORENSIC 4507 02:21:58,076 --> 02:21:59,744 ANALYSIS BROUGHT TO THE FORE. 4508 02:21:59,744 --> 02:22:02,580 AND THAT WORK IS ONGOING. WE 4509 02:22:02,580 --> 02:22:04,716 LOOKED AT CONTINUE TO LOOK AT 4510 02:22:04,716 --> 02:22:05,283 THINGS LIKE MONTHLY REPORT 4511 02:22:05,283 --> 02:22:08,019 REPORTING AND INTERNAL CONTROLS. 4512 02:22:08,019 --> 02:22:08,987 THESE ARE A COUPLE OF THE THINGS 4513 02:22:08,987 --> 02:22:11,256 I WON'T GO THROUGH. EACH 4514 02:22:11,256 --> 02:22:11,990 COMPONENT HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW 4515 02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:13,024 WE ARE ALSO A LITTLE BIT SHORT 4516 02:22:13,024 --> 02:22:14,592 ON TIME, BUT WE ARE WORKING TO 4517 02:22:14,592 --> 02:22:15,994 ADDRESS THE AUDIT FINDINGS WITH 4518 02:22:15,994 --> 02:22:18,830 CORRECTIVE ACTIONS AND THEN 4519 02:22:18,830 --> 02:22:20,498 BECAUSE THE FEDERAL FUNDING IS 4520 02:22:20,498 --> 02:22:21,532 SO KEY TO OUR REGION, WE WANT TO 4521 02:22:21,532 --> 02:22:24,936 MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STRESSING 4522 02:22:24,936 --> 02:22:27,405 COMPLIANCE AND BEING PROACTIVE 4523 02:22:27,405 --> 02:22:29,674 IN HOW WE LOOK AND ADMINISTER AT 4524 02:22:29,674 --> 02:22:32,610 AND ADMINISTER THOSE FEDERAL 4525 02:22:32,610 --> 02:22:34,245 FUNDS. LAST SLIDE THAT I WILL 4526 02:22:34,245 --> 02:22:36,214 TALK TO, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT 4527 02:22:36,214 --> 02:22:37,749 OVER TO FOLKS FROM THE HUMAN 4528 02:22:37,749 --> 02:22:39,517 SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS JUST TO 4529 02:22:39,517 --> 02:22:41,252 HIGHLIGHT SORT OF WHERE THE 4530 02:22:41,252 --> 02:22:42,754 DIVISION OF LABOR WILL BE WITH K 4531 02:22:42,754 --> 02:22:45,323 C, R, H A, AND WITH THE CITY AND 4532 02:22:45,323 --> 02:22:46,357 THE COUNTY. I MENTIONED THAT WE 4533 02:22:46,357 --> 02:22:49,594 REALLY WANT TO STRESS CENTERING 4534 02:22:49,594 --> 02:22:50,995 THE REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS 4535 02:22:50,995 --> 02:22:52,163 AUTHORITY, AS THE NAME IMPLIES 4536 02:22:52,163 --> 02:22:53,398 ON ITS REGIONAL FUNCTIONS. THESE 4537 02:22:53,398 --> 02:22:56,200 ARE OUTLINED HERE ON THIS SLIDE, 4538 02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,269 INCLUDING THE CONTINUUM OF CARE 4539 02:22:58,269 --> 02:23:00,805 LEAD APPLICANT, AS WELL AS 4540 02:23:00,805 --> 02:23:01,406 SERVING AS THE ADMINISTER OF 4541 02:23:01,406 --> 02:23:03,241 SOME SPECIFIC CONTINUUM OF CARE 4542 02:23:03,241 --> 02:23:04,943 CONTRACTS. THE HOMELESS 4543 02:23:04,943 --> 02:23:06,277 MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM 4544 02:23:06,277 --> 02:23:08,846 COORDINATED ENTRY POINT IN TIME 4545 02:23:08,846 --> 02:23:12,050 COUNT AND THE SEVERE WEATHER 4546 02:23:12,050 --> 02:23:13,451 RESPONSE. THESE ARE REMAIN 4547 02:23:13,451 --> 02:23:14,085 CENTRAL FUNCTIONS. WHETHER YOU 4548 02:23:14,085 --> 02:23:14,852 ARE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE, 4549 02:23:14,852 --> 02:23:17,789 YOU'RE IN AUBURN, YOU'RE IN 4550 02:23:17,789 --> 02:23:18,389 KIRKLAND. THESE ARE FUNCTIONS 4551 02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:19,591 THAT ARE SHARED ACROSS THE 4552 02:23:19,591 --> 02:23:21,993 REGION. THE CITY AND THE COUNTY 4553 02:23:21,993 --> 02:23:23,828 WILL STEP UP AND LOOK AT AND 4554 02:23:23,828 --> 02:23:25,730 TAKE BACK OUR NON CONTINUUM OF 4555 02:23:25,730 --> 02:23:28,466 CARE CONTRACTS AND CONTINUE TO 4556 02:23:28,466 --> 02:23:30,168 ALSO ASSIST WITH FISCAL 4557 02:23:30,168 --> 02:23:32,003 OVERSIGHT, WITH THE REGIONAL 4558 02:23:32,003 --> 02:23:33,538 HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY AND 4559 02:23:33,538 --> 02:23:34,138 CONTRACT MONITORING, AND MAKE 4560 02:23:34,138 --> 02:23:36,107 SURE THAT OUR PAYMENTS AND OUR 4561 02:23:36,107 --> 02:23:38,142 PROCUREMENTS FOLLOW ALONG OUR 4562 02:23:38,142 --> 02:23:40,244 GUIDELINES AND ARE EFFICIENT TO 4563 02:23:40,244 --> 02:23:40,979 SUPPORT THE PROVIDERS. ONE THING 4564 02:23:40,979 --> 02:23:42,947 THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HERE 4565 02:23:42,947 --> 02:23:43,514 BRIEFLY THAT IS NOT ON THIS 4566 02:23:43,514 --> 02:23:46,384 SLIDE, BUT I KNOW IS IMPORTANT 4567 02:23:46,384 --> 02:23:47,018 TO COUNCILMEMBERS AND IMPORTANT 4568 02:23:47,018 --> 02:23:50,521 TO US IS THE OMBUDS FUNCTION. 4569 02:23:50,521 --> 02:23:54,392 THE KCRHA HAS THAT IS, WE AGREE, 4570 02:23:54,392 --> 02:23:55,026 I THINK WITH COUNCILMEMBERS AND 4571 02:23:55,026 --> 02:23:55,994 WITH THE REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS 4572 02:23:55,994 --> 02:23:59,564 AUTHORITY, THAT IS A KEY AND 4573 02:23:59,564 --> 02:24:00,164 IMPORTANT FUNCTION THAT RESTS 4574 02:24:00,164 --> 02:24:01,332 WITH THE REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS 4575 02:24:01,332 --> 02:24:02,300 AUTHORITY. AND WE WANT TO MAKE 4576 02:24:02,300 --> 02:24:02,900 SURE THAT WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING 4577 02:24:02,900 --> 02:24:06,371 THAT AS WE DETERMINE HOW THAT 4578 02:24:06,371 --> 02:24:07,772 FUNCTION CONTINUES TO BE PRESENT 4579 02:24:07,772 --> 02:24:08,506 AND WORKING FOR FOLKS WHO ARE 4580 02:24:08,506 --> 02:24:09,707 LIVING HOMELESS SO THAT THEY 4581 02:24:09,707 --> 02:24:11,175 CAN, IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS 4582 02:24:11,175 --> 02:24:12,343 AROUND THE WAY THAT SERVICES ARE 4583 02:24:12,343 --> 02:24:13,111 BEING DELIVERED, THAT THERE IS A 4584 02:24:13,111 --> 02:24:14,846 PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO AND HAVE 4585 02:24:14,846 --> 02:24:17,915 THOSE CONCERNS RAISED AND THEN 4586 02:24:17,915 --> 02:24:19,250 PROVIDED TO EITHER REGIONAL 4587 02:24:19,250 --> 02:24:20,451 HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY OR, 4588 02:24:20,451 --> 02:24:21,319 FRANKLY, TO THE CITY AND THE 4589 02:24:21,319 --> 02:24:22,920 COUNTY AS WE TAKE OVER 4590 02:24:22,920 --> 02:24:24,155 ADMINISTRATION OF THE CONTRACTS. 4591 02:24:24,155 --> 02:24:25,323 SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN 4592 02:24:25,323 --> 02:24:28,359 IT OVER, I THINK, TO CHRIS 4593 02:24:28,359 --> 02:24:30,161 CLAYSON TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS 4594 02:24:30,161 --> 02:24:31,929 AROUND THE CONTRACT TRANSITION 4595 02:24:31,929 --> 02:24:32,130 PLAN. 4596 02:24:32,130 --> 02:24:34,132 -- THANKS, MARK. I KNOW WE HAVE 4597 02:24:34,132 --> 02:24:34,799 A FEW MINUTES, SO I'M GOING TO 4598 02:24:34,799 --> 02:24:36,300 TRY TO RUN QUICKLY THROUGH THIS. 4599 02:24:36,300 --> 02:24:39,103 BUT IN JANUARY 2027, WE WILL BE 4600 02:24:39,103 --> 02:24:41,939 TAKING BACK UP TO 117 4601 02:24:41,939 --> 02:24:43,841 HOMELESSNESS SERVICE CONTRACTS 4602 02:24:43,841 --> 02:24:46,310 WITH A TOTAL BUDGET THERE OF 113 4603 02:24:46,310 --> 02:24:48,413 MILLION ACROSS 40 PROVIDERS. SO 4604 02:24:48,413 --> 02:24:49,514 THIS SLIDE WILL JUST SHOW THE 4605 02:24:49,514 --> 02:24:50,948 SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT ARE 4606 02:24:50,948 --> 02:24:52,683 INCLUDED WITHIN THAT. I DO WANT 4607 02:24:52,683 --> 02:24:55,420 TO NOTE WE WILL WE WILL BE 4608 02:24:55,420 --> 02:24:56,320 TAKING BACK THE SEVERE WEATHER 4609 02:24:56,320 --> 02:24:57,889 CONTRACTS AS WELL. BUT BUILDING 4610 02:24:57,889 --> 02:25:00,558 IN A REQUIREMENT IN THOSE 4611 02:25:00,558 --> 02:25:01,159 CONTRACTS TO COLLABORATE AND 4612 02:25:01,159 --> 02:25:02,827 FOLLOW KCJ SEVERE WEATHER 4613 02:25:02,827 --> 02:25:04,662 COORDINATION EFFORTS, BUILDING 4614 02:25:04,662 --> 02:25:06,164 ON OUR CURRENT PARTNERSHIP WITH 4615 02:25:06,164 --> 02:25:08,232 THEM IN TIER THREE ACTIVATIONS. 4616 02:25:08,232 --> 02:25:12,336 NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S OUR GENERAL 4617 02:25:12,336 --> 02:25:12,937 TIMELINE FOR TAKING CONTRACTS 4618 02:25:12,937 --> 02:25:16,074 BACK. WE WANT TO START WITH LAST 4619 02:25:16,074 --> 02:25:17,742 MONTH, HSD AND DHS HAVE BEEN 4620 02:25:17,742 --> 02:25:18,309 PARTNERING TO HOLD PROVIDER 4621 02:25:18,309 --> 02:25:19,744 MEETINGS. WE HAD OUR FIRST ONE 4622 02:25:19,744 --> 02:25:22,413 ON JULY 1st TO ANNOUNCE THE 4623 02:25:22,413 --> 02:25:24,449 TRANSITION PLAN. AND AS MARK 4624 02:25:24,449 --> 02:25:26,150 MENTIONED, WE HAVE EMBEDDED THE 4625 02:25:26,150 --> 02:25:28,386 FINANCIAL FIRM AT KCJ THIS 4626 02:25:28,386 --> 02:25:30,254 MONTH. OBVIOUSLY, THE CONTRACT 4627 02:25:30,254 --> 02:25:32,757 TRANSITION PLANS HAVE BEEN 4628 02:25:32,757 --> 02:25:35,727 TRANSMITTED TO THE RESPECTIVE 4629 02:25:35,727 --> 02:25:36,928 COUNCILS, AND HSD IS TAKING SOME 4630 02:25:36,928 --> 02:25:38,162 NEXT STEPS AS WELL. OVER THE 4631 02:25:38,162 --> 02:25:40,932 COMING WEEKS, WE WILL BE SENDING 4632 02:25:40,932 --> 02:25:42,533 OVER A WELCOME PACKET TO 4633 02:25:42,533 --> 02:25:43,968 PROVIDERS COMING BACK, SHARING 4634 02:25:43,968 --> 02:25:44,435 INFORMATION ABOUT OUR 4635 02:25:44,435 --> 02:25:45,703 DEPARTMENT, THE CONTRACT PROCESS 4636 02:25:45,703 --> 02:25:48,072 AND OUR EXPECTED TIMELINES. AND 4637 02:25:48,072 --> 02:25:50,274 THEN THERE'S 15 OF THE 40 4638 02:25:50,274 --> 02:25:51,709 PROVIDERS NEED TO EXECUTE A 4639 02:25:51,709 --> 02:25:53,311 GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITION 4640 02:25:53,311 --> 02:25:54,946 AGREEMENT, WHICH HAS TO HAPPEN 4641 02:25:54,946 --> 02:25:56,447 BEFORE WE GET INTO THOSE 27 4642 02:25:56,447 --> 02:25:58,149 CONTRACTS. SO WE'RE GOING TO 4643 02:25:58,149 --> 02:25:59,817 WRAP THAT UP BY THE END OF THIS 4644 02:25:59,817 --> 02:26:01,486 SUMMER. THROUGHOUT THE FALL, I 4645 02:26:01,486 --> 02:26:04,255 MENTIONED OUR HSD DHS MEETING. 4646 02:26:04,255 --> 02:26:05,857 WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ANOTHER ONE 4647 02:26:05,857 --> 02:26:06,691 ON SEPTEMBER 9th AND ONGOING. 4648 02:26:06,691 --> 02:26:08,559 FROM THERE. I'LL SHARE MORE 4649 02:26:08,559 --> 02:26:11,162 SOON. WE ARE ALSO IN SEPTEMBER 4650 02:26:11,162 --> 02:26:12,296 GOING TO BE SENDING OUT 4651 02:26:12,296 --> 02:26:14,465 PRELIMINARY AWARD LETTERS AND 4652 02:26:14,465 --> 02:26:16,667 SENDING OUT PACKETS TO COMPLETE 4653 02:26:16,667 --> 02:26:18,369 INITIAL INFORMATION THAT 4654 02:26:18,369 --> 02:26:20,271 AGENCIES CAN SEND TO US FOR THE 4655 02:26:20,271 --> 02:26:22,039 CONTRACT PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL 4656 02:26:22,039 --> 02:26:23,107 STAFF UP. JANUARY 1st, 2027. 4657 02:26:23,107 --> 02:26:24,075 WE'LL TAKE THOSE CONTRACTS 4658 02:26:24,075 --> 02:26:24,275 BACK. 4659 02:26:24,275 --> 02:26:24,609 -- [LAUGHTER] 4660 02:26:24,609 --> 02:26:27,879 -- NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HSD 4661 02:26:27,879 --> 02:26:29,413 STAFFING. WE'RE GOING TO 4662 02:26:29,413 --> 02:26:31,582 INCREASE OUR STAFFING BY 23 4663 02:26:31,582 --> 02:26:33,251 POSITIONS. ONGOING ANNUAL COST 4664 02:26:33,251 --> 02:26:35,253 OF ABOUT 3.9 MILLION. THIS WILL 4665 02:26:35,253 --> 02:26:35,853 BE A STAGGERED HIRING PROCESS 4666 02:26:35,853 --> 02:26:37,188 THAT WE'RE GOING TO START IN 4667 02:26:37,188 --> 02:26:39,490 SEPTEMBER, FOCUSING IN ON 4668 02:26:39,490 --> 02:26:40,091 CONTRACT POSITIONS. BELOW ARE 4669 02:26:40,091 --> 02:26:41,792 SOME OF THE SCOPES THAT THESE 4670 02:26:41,792 --> 02:26:44,162 POSITIONS WILL COVER IN THE NEXT 4671 02:26:44,162 --> 02:26:45,563 SLIDE HAS THE FULL DETAIL ON 4672 02:26:45,563 --> 02:26:47,865 WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE AND 4673 02:26:47,865 --> 02:26:52,870 THAT'S THAT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. 4674 02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:53,104 PLEASE. 4675 02:26:53,104 --> 02:26:53,838 -- THEN ONE MOMENT. I JUST WANT 4676 02:26:53,838 --> 02:26:54,438 TO PAUSE HERE BECAUSE I JUST 4677 02:26:54,438 --> 02:26:56,073 WANT TO DO A QUICK TIME CHECK. 4678 02:26:56,073 --> 02:26:56,841 COLLEAGUES CAN WE I'M AIMING TO 4679 02:26:56,841 --> 02:26:58,176 GET US DONE. AND I'M RECOGNIZING 4680 02:26:58,176 --> 02:26:58,876 WE'RE WE'RE JUST TOWARDS THE 4681 02:26:58,876 --> 02:27:01,312 END. CAN FOLKS SEE A LITTLE BIT 4682 02:27:01,312 --> 02:27:03,281 AFTERNOON. OKAY. OKAY. YOU CAN 4683 02:27:03,281 --> 02:27:04,649 SLOW DOWN. PLEASE GO. EXCELLENT. 4684 02:27:04,649 --> 02:27:05,983 THANK YOU. CHRIS. 4685 02:27:05,983 --> 02:27:06,717 -- SLOW DOWN. JUST A. 4686 02:27:06,717 --> 02:27:07,552 -- OKAY, GREAT. SO IF WE CAN 4687 02:27:07,552 --> 02:27:09,120 SLOW DOWN FOR THE STAFFING ONE, 4688 02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:13,991 SURE. IT WOULD BE GOOD HERE. 4689 02:27:13,991 --> 02:27:15,960 JUST TO EXPLAIN THE 23 STAFF AND 4690 02:27:15,960 --> 02:27:16,861 AND PROPORTIONAL TO THE DIVISION 4691 02:27:16,861 --> 02:27:18,663 AS WELL AS THE OVERSIGHT. 4692 02:27:18,663 --> 02:27:19,831 -- YEAH. AS DIRECTOR KIM 4693 02:27:19,831 --> 02:27:21,065 MENTIONED, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY 4694 02:27:21,065 --> 02:27:22,099 TAKING BACK THESE CONTRACTS IS A 4695 02:27:22,099 --> 02:27:23,568 BIG EFFORT FOR THE ENTIRE 4696 02:27:23,568 --> 02:27:25,736 DEPARTMENT. AND SO OF THE 23 4697 02:27:25,736 --> 02:27:27,939 POSITIONS, 13 WILL BE IN THE 4698 02:27:27,939 --> 02:27:29,607 HOMELESSNESS DIVISION. AND THOSE 4699 02:27:29,607 --> 02:27:30,741 ARE THE FIRST FOUR THERE. SO WE 4700 02:27:30,741 --> 02:27:39,650 HAVE OUR GRANTS AND CONTRACTS. 4701 02:27:39,650 --> 02:27:40,284 SUPERVISORS, GRANTS AND CONTRACT 4702 02:27:40,284 --> 02:27:47,491 SPECIALISTS. A. 4703 02:27:48,025 --> 02:27:58,502 -- THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND SO 4704 02:30:56,113 --> 02:30:56,580 WE DO HAVE SOME TIME FOR 4705 02:30:56,580 --> 02:30:57,214 QUESTIONS. SO I AM GOING TO OPEN 4706 02:30:57,214 --> 02:30:58,482 IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON THE 4707 02:30:58,482 --> 02:31:02,386 PRESENTATION. VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 4708 02:31:02,386 --> 02:31:03,354 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIR 4709 02:31:03,354 --> 02:31:07,224 RINCK. AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF 4710 02:31:07,224 --> 02:31:08,292 OUR PRESENTERS AND JUST I'LL DO 4711 02:31:08,292 --> 02:31:09,460 A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO CHRIS FOR 4712 02:31:09,460 --> 02:31:13,230 THAT. LIKE JUST SEASONED, UH, 4713 02:31:13,230 --> 02:31:14,498 WALK THROUGH THERE. UM, SO I 4714 02:31:14,498 --> 02:31:15,633 HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT 4715 02:31:15,633 --> 02:31:17,568 I WANT TO ASK JUST TO GET A 4716 02:31:17,568 --> 02:31:19,670 LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY. SO I 4717 02:31:19,670 --> 02:31:20,971 APPRECIATE THE POINT IN THE 4718 02:31:20,971 --> 02:31:22,173 SLIDES. I THINK IT'S ON SLIDE 4719 02:31:22,173 --> 02:31:26,210 TEN AROUND THE 3.9 MILLION IN, 4720 02:31:26,210 --> 02:31:28,245 UM, COST FOR CONTRACT 4721 02:31:28,245 --> 02:31:28,846 ADMINISTRATION. AND I WANT TO 4722 02:31:28,846 --> 02:31:31,248 GET CLARITY. IS THAT ADDITIONAL 4723 02:31:31,248 --> 02:31:32,783 COST OR IS THAT COST THAT IS 4724 02:31:32,783 --> 02:31:35,753 INCLUDED WITHIN THE 112.8 4725 02:31:35,753 --> 02:31:37,888 MILLION EXISTING CONTRACTS. 4726 02:31:37,888 --> 02:31:39,056 -- YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. 4727 02:31:39,056 --> 02:31:42,560 THE ANNUAL COST WILL BE INCLUDED 4728 02:31:42,560 --> 02:31:43,127 WITHIN THAT EXISTING BUDGET 4729 02:31:43,127 --> 02:31:45,329 LINE. I THINK AS WE LOOK TO 4730 02:31:45,329 --> 02:31:46,530 BRING THESE FOLKS IN IN Q4 AS 4731 02:31:46,530 --> 02:31:48,132 WELL, THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT 4732 02:31:48,132 --> 02:31:50,234 SOME UNDERSPEND THAT WE HAVE AS 4733 02:31:50,234 --> 02:31:51,702 WELL. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. AND I 4734 02:31:51,702 --> 02:31:53,637 SEE DIRECTOR KIM WANTS TO. 4735 02:31:53,637 --> 02:31:56,140 -- SO WE RECEIVED THOSE 4736 02:31:56,140 --> 02:31:59,009 EMERGENCY POCKETS FOR 2026, AND 4737 02:31:59,009 --> 02:31:59,510 YOU WILL HAVE SPECIFIC 4738 02:31:59,510 --> 02:32:01,011 INFORMATION IN THE BIENNIUM 4739 02:32:01,011 --> 02:32:02,646 BUDGET THAT WILL BE, UM, 4740 02:32:02,646 --> 02:32:06,016 PROPOSED SHORTLY. UH, BUT THIS 4741 02:32:06,016 --> 02:32:07,351 IS THE, WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH 4742 02:32:07,351 --> 02:32:08,786 RIGHT NOW. 4743 02:32:08,786 --> 02:32:10,120 -- OKAY. GOT IT. AND I SORRY, I 4744 02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:11,489 SAID, IS IT THIS OR IS IT THAT? 4745 02:32:11,489 --> 02:32:12,990 AND THEN CHRIS, YOU SAID YOU ARE 4746 02:32:12,990 --> 02:32:15,693 CORRECT. AND SO I'M NOT SURE 4747 02:32:15,693 --> 02:32:15,993 WHICH ONE. 4748 02:32:15,993 --> 02:32:16,660 -- YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT IT 4749 02:32:16,660 --> 02:32:17,962 WILL BE BROUGHT FROM THE 4750 02:32:17,962 --> 02:32:20,364 EXISTING HOMELESSNESS BUDGET. WE 4751 02:32:20,364 --> 02:32:22,399 HAVE THE 3.9, THE 113 MILLION. 4752 02:32:22,399 --> 02:32:25,503 -- OKAY. GOT IT. THE 3.9 IS 4753 02:32:25,503 --> 02:32:26,137 INCLUDED WITHIN THE 113 MILLION. 4754 02:32:26,137 --> 02:32:27,972 -- YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY THE 113 4755 02:32:27,972 --> 02:32:29,573 ON THAT SLIDE. SORRY TO BE 4756 02:32:29,573 --> 02:32:30,407 HOPEFULLY THIS ISN'T TOO 4757 02:32:30,407 --> 02:32:31,041 CONFUSING. THAT'S RELATED TO 4758 02:32:31,041 --> 02:32:33,210 THE CONTRACTS. WE DID NOT 4759 02:32:33,210 --> 02:32:34,812 INCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE 4760 02:32:34,812 --> 02:32:35,412 FUNDING CURRENTLY A CASE FOR 4761 02:32:35,412 --> 02:32:36,647 THAT. BUT THAT IS ALSO WHAT 4762 02:32:36,647 --> 02:32:38,649 WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. 4763 02:32:38,649 --> 02:32:39,683 -- SO OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THANK 4764 02:32:39,683 --> 02:32:41,318 YOU FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN THE 4765 02:32:41,318 --> 02:32:43,554 OTHER QUESTION I WANT TO ASK IS 4766 02:32:43,554 --> 02:32:45,322 I KNOW THAT WE, THAT THE PLAN 4767 02:32:45,322 --> 02:32:46,824 THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING IS TO 4768 02:32:46,824 --> 02:32:47,925 BRING THOSE CONTRACTS BACK AND 4769 02:32:47,925 --> 02:32:48,826 THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE 4770 02:32:48,826 --> 02:32:51,762 STILL SUSTAINING KCJ BECAUSE 4771 02:32:51,762 --> 02:32:53,764 THERE'S JUST A CRITICAL 4772 02:32:53,764 --> 02:32:54,398 FUNCTION FOR CONTINUUM OF CARE. 4773 02:32:54,398 --> 02:32:56,700 AND CAN WE JUST SPEAK TO THE 4774 02:32:56,700 --> 02:32:57,801 APPROACH THAT YOU'RE TAKING IN 4775 02:32:57,801 --> 02:32:59,904 TERMS OF MAKING SURE THEY HAVE 4776 02:32:59,904 --> 02:33:01,472 THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAPACITY TO 4777 02:33:01,472 --> 02:33:02,039 CONTINUE IN THAT IMPORTANT 4778 02:33:02,039 --> 02:33:03,474 LEADERSHIP ROLE? 4779 02:33:03,474 --> 02:33:04,808 -- SURE. I'M HAPPY TO START. 4780 02:33:04,808 --> 02:33:07,945 AND IF FOLKS WANT TO ADD. SO I 4781 02:33:07,945 --> 02:33:09,413 THINK THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS 4782 02:33:09,413 --> 02:33:10,948 THAT I THINK THAT ARE IMPORTANT 4783 02:33:10,948 --> 02:33:12,216 THERE, COUNCILMEMBER. ONE IS 4784 02:33:12,216 --> 02:33:13,384 SORT OF WHAT IS THE COST OF 4785 02:33:13,384 --> 02:33:14,018 THAT? AND THEN I THINK PART OF 4786 02:33:14,018 --> 02:33:15,586 IT IS, IS WHAT IS THE SORT OF 4787 02:33:15,586 --> 02:33:16,587 STAFFING THAT THEY WILL HAVE IN 4788 02:33:16,587 --> 02:33:19,990 PLACE. SO ONE OF THE TASKS THAT 4789 02:33:19,990 --> 02:33:21,091 WE ARE ASKING THE FINANCIAL 4790 02:33:21,091 --> 02:33:21,859 ADVISORY FIRM THAT IS WORKING 4791 02:33:21,859 --> 02:33:24,528 THERE IS TO DO AN EVALUATION OF 4792 02:33:24,528 --> 02:33:25,996 WHAT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF 4793 02:33:25,996 --> 02:33:27,231 STAFFING AND COST WOULD BE FOR 4794 02:33:27,231 --> 02:33:29,433 AN AGENCY. WHEN THOSE CONTRACTS 4795 02:33:29,433 --> 02:33:30,701 OF BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY 4796 02:33:30,701 --> 02:33:32,269 ARE TAKING BACK. UM, AND THAT IS 4797 02:33:32,269 --> 02:33:34,104 DUE TO US PROBABLY IN THE NEXT 4798 02:33:34,104 --> 02:33:35,306 FEW WEEKS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 4799 02:33:35,306 --> 02:33:36,273 THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN THAT 4800 02:33:36,273 --> 02:33:38,809 WILL ALLOW US, I THINK, AND 4801 02:33:38,809 --> 02:33:39,543 ALLOW KCRW TO CONSIDER BOTH, I 4802 02:33:39,543 --> 02:33:41,579 THINK, THEIR STAFFING AND THEIR 4803 02:33:41,579 --> 02:33:42,112 ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. THE 4804 02:33:42,112 --> 02:33:43,714 CONTINUUM OF CARE DOES BRING 4805 02:33:43,714 --> 02:33:46,717 WITH IT ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS 4806 02:33:46,717 --> 02:33:47,818 THAT KCRHA HOLDS FOR THE 4807 02:33:47,818 --> 02:33:49,753 ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE CENTRAL 4808 02:33:49,753 --> 02:33:51,255 FUNCTIONS, AND I THINK THEY WILL 4809 02:33:51,255 --> 02:33:52,356 HOLD LIKELY THE LION'S SHARE OF 4810 02:33:52,356 --> 02:33:53,857 THOSE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THOSE. I 4811 02:33:53,857 --> 02:33:55,059 DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING 4812 02:33:55,059 --> 02:33:55,793 MORE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD. 4813 02:33:55,793 --> 02:33:57,861 -- I THINK THE ONLY OTHER POINT 4814 02:33:57,861 --> 02:34:01,365 IS WE'RE STILL WITH THAT WORK. 4815 02:34:01,365 --> 02:34:02,533 IF WE MAKE SOME DECISIONS, BY 4816 02:34:02,533 --> 02:34:04,001 THE TIME THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS 4817 02:34:04,001 --> 02:34:06,303 READY, THEN YOU WILL SEE MORE 4818 02:34:06,303 --> 02:34:08,205 SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY 4819 02:34:08,205 --> 02:34:10,407 AND THE COUNTY PERHAPS WILL BE 4820 02:34:10,407 --> 02:34:13,510 CONTRIBUTING TO OFFSET THE 4821 02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:14,745 ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. 4822 02:34:14,745 --> 02:34:18,882 FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF THE OMBUDS 4823 02:34:18,882 --> 02:34:20,884 ON SOME LEVEL IS THERE OR AT THE 4824 02:34:20,884 --> 02:34:23,854 CITY, THAT WILL LIKELY BE 4825 02:34:23,854 --> 02:34:25,556 DETERMINED AT THAT TIME. UH, 4826 02:34:25,556 --> 02:34:28,125 ANOTHER WOULD BE THE EMERGENCY 4827 02:34:28,125 --> 02:34:29,660 RESPONSE. UM, SO AS CHRIS 4828 02:34:29,660 --> 02:34:31,128 POINTED OUT, WE ARE TAKING BACK 4829 02:34:31,128 --> 02:34:32,663 THOSE CONTRACTS, BUT WE DO 4830 02:34:32,663 --> 02:34:34,365 BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE 4831 02:34:34,365 --> 02:34:36,333 ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION OF THAT 4832 02:34:36,333 --> 02:34:39,270 FOR THE SEVERE WEATHER LEVEL 4833 02:34:39,270 --> 02:34:41,171 THREE. BUT REALLY, WE, WE DO 4834 02:34:41,171 --> 02:34:43,040 KNOW THAT THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE 4835 02:34:43,040 --> 02:34:46,610 ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP 4836 02:34:46,610 --> 02:34:48,212 THE REGION'S RESPONSE TO SEVERE 4837 02:34:48,212 --> 02:34:50,180 WEATHER. AND WE WOULD WANT THEM 4838 02:34:50,180 --> 02:34:52,016 TO RETAIN THAT ROLE. AND SO 4839 02:34:52,016 --> 02:34:54,084 THERE LIKELY WILL BE SOME 4840 02:34:54,084 --> 02:34:55,653 CONTRIBUTION. UM, ABOVE, UM, 4841 02:34:55,653 --> 02:34:59,657 WHAT C OH, C IS DOING, FOR 4842 02:34:59,657 --> 02:34:59,923 EXAMPLE. 4843 02:34:59,923 --> 02:35:00,858 -- GOT IT. THANK YOU. AND I 4844 02:35:00,858 --> 02:35:01,959 THINK WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT TO 4845 02:35:01,959 --> 02:35:04,061 MEAN IS THERE'S POTENTIAL 4846 02:35:04,061 --> 02:35:05,963 ADDITIONAL COLLABORATION BETWEEN 4847 02:35:05,963 --> 02:35:07,464 THE CITY AND THE COUNTY IN TERMS 4848 02:35:07,464 --> 02:35:08,766 OF NOT JUST ENSURING THAT WE 4849 02:35:08,766 --> 02:35:10,534 HAVE AN ONGOING REGIONAL 4850 02:35:10,534 --> 02:35:12,302 APPROACH, BUT DETERMINING THAT 4851 02:35:12,302 --> 02:35:14,905 WE HAVE SORT OF A SHARED FUNDING 4852 02:35:14,905 --> 02:35:16,206 AND INVESTMENT STRATEGY. AND 4853 02:35:16,206 --> 02:35:18,008 THAT SORT OF JUST DOVETAILS INTO 4854 02:35:18,008 --> 02:35:19,510 SOMETHING THAT MY FINAL QUESTION 4855 02:35:19,510 --> 02:35:21,045 HERE, WHICH IS, CAN YOU JUST 4856 02:35:21,045 --> 02:35:23,047 SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE 4857 02:35:23,047 --> 02:35:24,348 APPROACH WITH BRAIDED CONTRACTS 4858 02:35:24,348 --> 02:35:25,282 AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE 4859 02:35:25,282 --> 02:35:29,586 PROVIDERS, UM, ABLE TO CONTINUE 4860 02:35:29,586 --> 02:35:31,488 TO EXECUTE THEIR APPROACHES AS 4861 02:35:31,488 --> 02:35:31,755 PLANNED? 4862 02:35:31,755 --> 02:35:32,856 -- YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY A 4863 02:35:32,856 --> 02:35:34,191 BIT OF WORK THAT WE ARE 4864 02:35:34,191 --> 02:35:36,627 CONTINUING TO BUILD WITH DHS AND 4865 02:35:36,627 --> 02:35:37,528 DOING THAT REALLY THOUGHTFULLY. 4866 02:35:37,528 --> 02:35:39,329 I THINK WE, WE HEARD FROM A LOT 4867 02:35:39,329 --> 02:35:41,231 OF PROVIDERS, JUST THE DESIRE 4868 02:35:41,231 --> 02:35:42,700 NOT TO HAVE MULTIPLE CONTRACTS 4869 02:35:42,700 --> 02:35:43,734 WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY. AND SO 4870 02:35:43,734 --> 02:35:45,602 WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT MIGHT 4871 02:35:45,602 --> 02:35:47,738 MAKE SENSE TO CONSOLIDATE THAT 4872 02:35:47,738 --> 02:35:49,873 AND WHETHER IT BE THROUGH AN MOA 4873 02:35:49,873 --> 02:35:50,441 OR SUPPORTING THAT. I THINK 4874 02:35:50,441 --> 02:35:51,909 THOSE ARE THE DETAILS THAT WE'RE 4875 02:35:51,909 --> 02:35:53,277 FIGURING OUT AND IRONING OUT 4876 02:35:53,277 --> 02:35:56,113 THROUGH THE, UH, THIS MONTH AND 4877 02:35:56,113 --> 02:35:57,014 HOPE TO HAVE THAT FINALIZED BY 4878 02:35:57,014 --> 02:35:58,515 THE END OF AUGUST. 4879 02:35:58,515 --> 02:35:59,850 -- SO AGAIN, I'LL JUST ADD THAT 4880 02:35:59,850 --> 02:36:01,518 OUR GOAL IS TO START ALL OF THE 4881 02:36:01,518 --> 02:36:02,986 CONTRACTS JANUARY 1st, BUT WHERE 4882 02:36:02,986 --> 02:36:04,888 THERE IS SOME MAYBE 4883 02:36:04,888 --> 02:36:07,591 COMPLICATIONS, WE KNOW THAT WE 4884 02:36:07,591 --> 02:36:09,059 MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE 4885 02:36:09,059 --> 02:36:10,494 TIME IF THERE ARE COMPLICATED 4886 02:36:10,494 --> 02:36:11,729 CONTRACTS, BUT WE'LL KNOW 4887 02:36:11,729 --> 02:36:12,029 SHORTLY. 4888 02:36:12,029 --> 02:36:13,030 -- OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 4889 02:36:13,030 --> 02:36:14,398 THANK YOU. AND GIVEN THAT 4890 02:36:14,398 --> 02:36:17,334 THERE'S THIS ONGOING 4891 02:36:17,334 --> 02:36:17,968 COLLABORATION HAPPENING BETWEEN 4892 02:36:17,968 --> 02:36:18,802 THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND 4893 02:36:18,802 --> 02:36:20,404 HEARING YOUR RESPONSE THAT IT'S 4894 02:36:20,404 --> 02:36:22,673 IT'S VERY ACTIVE. UM, I WONDER, 4895 02:36:22,673 --> 02:36:24,942 DO YOU ANTICIPATE REPORTING TO 4896 02:36:24,942 --> 02:36:27,144 COUNCIL ABOUT THAT COMPONENT? 4897 02:36:27,144 --> 02:36:29,713 UM, PRIOR TO BUDGET? 4898 02:36:29,713 --> 02:36:31,081 -- I THINK WE WILL HAVE MORE 4899 02:36:31,081 --> 02:36:32,649 DETAILS ON THAT, BUT I WOULD 4900 02:36:32,649 --> 02:36:34,585 DEFER TO MARK OR DIRECTOR KIM 4901 02:36:34,585 --> 02:36:35,386 WITH MORE. 4902 02:36:35,386 --> 02:36:36,820 -- YEAH. I THINK AS WE GET THE 4903 02:36:36,820 --> 02:36:39,356 INFORMATION, BOTH FROM THE 4904 02:36:39,356 --> 02:36:39,990 FINANCIAL ADVISORY FIRM. AND I 4905 02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:40,758 THINK AS WE WORK WITH THE 4906 02:36:40,758 --> 02:36:42,292 COUNTY, WE'RE HAPPY TO COME 4907 02:36:42,292 --> 02:36:43,460 BACK AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL 4908 02:36:43,460 --> 02:36:44,027 UPDATES KIND OF THROUGH THE 4909 02:36:44,027 --> 02:36:45,028 PROCESS. 4910 02:36:45,028 --> 02:36:46,263 -- THANK YOU. AND I THINK 4911 02:36:46,263 --> 02:36:47,564 THAT'S I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT 4912 02:36:47,564 --> 02:36:48,232 THE APPROACH THAT YOU'RE TAKING, 4913 02:36:48,232 --> 02:36:49,633 AND I APPRECIATE ESPECIALLY LET 4914 02:36:49,633 --> 02:36:51,535 ME BE SPECIFIC HERE TO BE 4915 02:36:51,535 --> 02:36:53,604 RESPONSIVE TO PROVIDERS WHO ARE 4916 02:36:53,604 --> 02:36:56,173 SHARING THAT CONCERN AROUND THE 4917 02:36:56,173 --> 02:36:58,041 BRAIDED CONTRACTS AND THEIR. 4918 02:36:58,041 --> 02:36:59,810 THERE NEED TO BE ABLE TO 4919 02:36:59,810 --> 02:37:01,311 CONTINUE EXECUTING THEIR WORK. 4920 02:37:01,311 --> 02:37:02,813 SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT 4921 02:37:02,813 --> 02:37:03,480 UNDER CONSIDERATION. I ALSO JUST 4922 02:37:03,480 --> 02:37:04,314 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE 4923 02:37:04,314 --> 02:37:08,886 SET UP TO BE GOOD PARTNERS 4924 02:37:08,886 --> 02:37:09,520 DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND 4925 02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:10,087 THAT EARLY INFORMATION WILL 4926 02:37:10,087 --> 02:37:11,288 ALLOW US TO DO SO. SO I LOOK 4927 02:37:11,288 --> 02:37:11,889 FORWARD TO HEARING MORE SOON. 4928 02:37:11,889 --> 02:37:14,291 THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 4929 02:37:14,291 --> 02:37:15,092 -- THANK YOU FOR THOSE 4930 02:37:15,092 --> 02:37:15,993 QUESTIONS. VICE CHAIR FOSTER. 4931 02:37:15,993 --> 02:37:19,196 UM, I'LL WRAP US UP WITH JUST A 4932 02:37:19,196 --> 02:37:22,032 FEW QUESTIONS FOR TODAY. UM, IT 4933 02:37:22,032 --> 02:37:24,168 APPEARS FROM THE SLIDES THAT THE 4934 02:37:24,168 --> 02:37:24,802 RESET PROPOSAL THAT THE INTENT 4935 02:37:24,802 --> 02:37:26,236 IS THAT THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND 4936 02:37:26,236 --> 02:37:27,137 KING COUNTY WILL WORK ON 4937 02:37:27,137 --> 02:37:28,605 DEVELOPING A JOINT RFP PROCESS 4938 02:37:28,605 --> 02:37:30,841 FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE 4939 02:37:30,841 --> 02:37:31,475 HOMELESSNESS SERVICE CONTRACTS 4940 02:37:31,475 --> 02:37:33,811 THAT COULD BE ISSUED IN Q1 2028. 4941 02:37:33,811 --> 02:37:35,212 JUST TO CONFIRM, IS THAT 4942 02:37:35,212 --> 02:37:36,213 ACCURATE? AND WHAT IS THE 4943 02:37:36,213 --> 02:37:38,715 TIMELINE FOR PUTTING THESE 4944 02:37:38,715 --> 02:37:39,716 CONTRACTS OUT FOR THE RFP? 4945 02:37:39,716 --> 02:37:40,818 -- YEAH. THAT'S ACCURATE. WE 4946 02:37:40,818 --> 02:37:42,419 WOULD PLAN TO PUT THAT OUT IN 4947 02:37:42,419 --> 02:37:44,054 Q1. UM, ACTUALLY RELEASE AN RFP 4948 02:37:44,054 --> 02:37:46,857 FOR THAT FOR 2029 SERVICES. AND 4949 02:37:46,857 --> 02:37:47,691 I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS MARK 4950 02:37:47,691 --> 02:37:49,459 MENTIONED IN TERMS OF REGIONAL 4951 02:37:49,459 --> 02:37:51,228 RESET, WE HOPE TO BE KIND OF 4952 02:37:51,228 --> 02:37:52,896 FOUNDATIONAL IN BUILDING UP THAT 4953 02:37:52,896 --> 02:37:56,900 THAT PLANNING FOR THE 2028 4954 02:37:56,900 --> 02:37:57,167 RELEASE. 4955 02:37:57,167 --> 02:37:59,336 -- SO IF I COULD SLOW IT DOWN 4956 02:37:59,336 --> 02:38:01,338 FOR JUST A TAD, SO IT WOULD BE 4957 02:38:01,338 --> 02:38:03,674 PLANNING, THAT WOULD OCCUR IN 4958 02:38:03,674 --> 02:38:08,679 2027 FOR A NOFA ANNOUNCEMENT IN 4959 02:38:08,679 --> 02:38:10,414 2027, SO THAT THERE COULD BE AN 4960 02:38:10,414 --> 02:38:14,084 RFP OR AN RFQ IN 2028. YOU RUN 4961 02:38:14,084 --> 02:38:15,853 THAT PROCESS. IT WOULD BE PRETTY 4962 02:38:15,853 --> 02:38:18,755 MAJOR. SO WE WANT TO GIVE IT THE 4963 02:38:18,755 --> 02:38:20,357 APPROPRIATE BREATHING SPACE, UH, 4964 02:38:20,357 --> 02:38:22,693 FOR PROVIDERS AND FOR COUNTY. 4965 02:38:22,693 --> 02:38:25,863 AND I'M ASSUMING AND THE CITY. 4966 02:38:25,863 --> 02:38:28,332 AND THEN NEW AWARDS, THOSE 4967 02:38:28,332 --> 02:38:30,234 CONTRACTS WILL BEGIN IN 2029. SO 4968 02:38:30,234 --> 02:38:31,535 IT'S SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME, 4969 02:38:31,535 --> 02:38:32,870 BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE 4970 02:38:32,870 --> 02:38:34,404 WORK THAT ENTAILS WITH IT AND 4971 02:38:34,404 --> 02:38:36,273 THE SPEED IN WHICH THE PROVIDERS 4972 02:38:36,273 --> 02:38:39,309 WILL NEED TO APPLY AND PREPARE, 4973 02:38:39,309 --> 02:38:41,378 THAT'S THAT'S THE TIMING THAT 4974 02:38:41,378 --> 02:38:43,814 WE'RE PROPOSING. UH, I WOULD 4975 02:38:43,814 --> 02:38:46,717 SAY THERE'S A CAVEAT. WE ALWAYS 4976 02:38:46,717 --> 02:38:47,551 WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT 4977 02:38:47,551 --> 02:38:49,186 HAPPENS TO SEE. OH, SEE, 4978 02:38:49,186 --> 02:38:49,853 THERE'S SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, 4979 02:38:49,853 --> 02:38:51,555 THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO 4980 02:38:51,555 --> 02:38:53,590 CONSIDERATION. AND SO THAT IS 4981 02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:54,191 THE PROPOSED TIMELINE. I ALSO 4982 02:38:54,191 --> 02:38:55,792 WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT JOINT LOOKS 4983 02:38:55,792 --> 02:38:57,294 LIKE. I THINK WE NEED TO 4984 02:38:57,294 --> 02:38:59,196 DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS. SO 4985 02:38:59,196 --> 02:39:02,399 WHETHER IT'S A LITERAL ONE, RFP 4986 02:39:02,399 --> 02:39:03,700 WITH BRAIDED FUNDS, OR IF WE 4987 02:39:03,700 --> 02:39:04,334 JUST DO THIS COLLABORATIVELY AND 4988 02:39:04,334 --> 02:39:06,770 THEN BEHIND THE SCENES, WORK IT 4989 02:39:06,770 --> 02:39:08,338 OUT, WE JUST NEED TO, UM, I 4990 02:39:08,338 --> 02:39:10,107 THINK, IDENTIFY AND FIRM UP WHAT 4991 02:39:10,107 --> 02:39:12,542 THOSE DETAILS ARE, BUT JUST 4992 02:39:12,542 --> 02:39:13,844 WANTING YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE 4993 02:39:13,844 --> 02:39:14,511 GOING TO PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO 4994 02:39:14,511 --> 02:39:16,313 HAVE SHARED OUTCOMES, WE'RE 4995 02:39:16,313 --> 02:39:17,447 GOING TO TRY TO DEVELOP THE 4996 02:39:17,447 --> 02:39:18,081 CADENCE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE 4997 02:39:18,081 --> 02:39:19,950 WANT TO DO REGIONALLY, BUT 4998 02:39:19,950 --> 02:39:21,485 LITERALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE 4999 02:39:21,485 --> 02:39:24,021 NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE PLANNING 5000 02:39:24,021 --> 02:39:24,221 TIME. 5001 02:39:24,221 --> 02:39:25,656 -- THANK YOU FOR UNPACKING THAT. 5002 02:39:25,656 --> 02:39:26,723 DIRECTOR KIM. AND MY LAST 5003 02:39:26,723 --> 02:39:28,325 QUESTION FOR TODAY IS JUST MORE 5004 02:39:28,325 --> 02:39:29,927 BROADLY IN TERMS OF PROCESS. I 5005 02:39:29,927 --> 02:39:32,863 MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE TRANSITION. 5006 02:39:32,863 --> 02:39:34,531 UM, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO MANAGE 5007 02:39:34,531 --> 02:39:36,400 THE IMPACTS OF THAT TRANSITION, 5008 02:39:36,400 --> 02:39:37,668 STABILIZE SERVICES AND MAKE SURE 5009 02:39:37,668 --> 02:39:39,569 THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCING 5010 02:39:39,569 --> 02:39:40,570 HOMELESSNESS THAT WE'RE TRYING 5011 02:39:40,570 --> 02:39:41,939 TO SERVE ARE NOT IMPACTED. AND 5012 02:39:41,939 --> 02:39:44,274 I'M THINKING ABOUT THE BROADER 5013 02:39:44,274 --> 02:39:46,310 COMMUNITY OF WORKERS WHO SUPPORT 5014 02:39:46,310 --> 02:39:47,344 THE SYSTEM THAT ARE BEING 5015 02:39:47,344 --> 02:39:47,945 IMPACTED BY THESE CHANGES. SO 5016 02:39:47,945 --> 02:39:49,746 I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN SPEAK 5017 02:39:49,746 --> 02:39:50,347 TO PERHAPS THIS IS A QUESTION 5018 02:39:50,347 --> 02:39:51,949 FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. JUST 5019 02:39:51,949 --> 02:39:52,983 SPEAK TO, IN BROAD STROKES, HOW 5020 02:39:52,983 --> 02:39:54,384 WE'RE ENGAGING OUR LABOR 5021 02:39:54,384 --> 02:39:56,019 PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THIS 5022 02:39:56,019 --> 02:39:56,620 TRANSITION AND THE RESPECTIVE 5023 02:39:56,620 --> 02:39:57,854 WORKFORCES THAT ARE IMPACTED. 5024 02:39:57,854 --> 02:40:00,057 -- YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. UM, AND 5025 02:40:00,057 --> 02:40:01,758 SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM 5026 02:40:01,758 --> 02:40:03,327 KCRW, FROM THEIR EMPLOYEES AND 5027 02:40:03,327 --> 02:40:05,195 FROM OUR LABOR PARTNERS, WE'VE 5028 02:40:05,195 --> 02:40:08,165 HAD, I BELIEVE TWO, AT LEAST 3 5029 02:40:08,165 --> 02:40:09,866 OR 3 MEETINGS WITH A BROAD SET 5030 02:40:09,866 --> 02:40:11,401 OF LABOR PARTNERS ALREADY. 5031 02:40:11,401 --> 02:40:13,203 THEY'VE RAISED THEIR CONCERNS 5032 02:40:13,203 --> 02:40:15,005 AND QUESTIONS JUST AROUND THAT 5033 02:40:15,005 --> 02:40:17,507 TRANSITION. THE IMPACT OF THE 5034 02:40:17,507 --> 02:40:19,676 KCRW H A EMPLOYEES. WHAT WOULD 5035 02:40:19,676 --> 02:40:20,911 THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES BE 5036 02:40:20,911 --> 02:40:23,013 WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE CITY? 5037 02:40:23,013 --> 02:40:24,681 UM, AND SO WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY 5038 02:40:24,681 --> 02:40:26,683 ENGAGED IN THAT CONVERSATION, AS 5039 02:40:26,683 --> 02:40:28,452 YOU WELL KNOW, THERE ARE SORT OF 5040 02:40:28,452 --> 02:40:29,720 LIMITATIONS AROUND WHAT WE CAN 5041 02:40:29,720 --> 02:40:32,723 DO AS FAR AS, UM, PROVIDING 5042 02:40:32,723 --> 02:40:33,957 UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO SORT OF 5043 02:40:33,957 --> 02:40:37,027 ONE SET OF FOLKS OR ANOTHER. BUT 5044 02:40:37,027 --> 02:40:37,861 WE ARE IN ACTIVE CONVERSATION 5045 02:40:37,861 --> 02:40:39,930 ABOUT HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT 5046 02:40:39,930 --> 02:40:40,530 THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE KNOWN 5047 02:40:40,530 --> 02:40:44,334 AND AVAILABLE TO. KCRW. TO 5048 02:40:44,334 --> 02:40:45,802 IMPACTED EMPLOYEES. AND THEN I 5049 02:40:45,802 --> 02:40:49,239 THINK ALSO, UM, WHAT THAT WOULD 5050 02:40:49,239 --> 02:40:50,841 POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE, I THINK 5051 02:40:50,841 --> 02:40:51,608 FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE 5052 02:40:51,608 --> 02:40:52,442 COUNTY LIKE AS AN EMPLOYER? WHAT 5053 02:40:52,442 --> 02:40:53,110 IS THE CITY LIKE AS AN EMPLOYER? 5054 02:40:53,110 --> 02:40:55,412 SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE ACTIVE IN 5055 02:40:55,412 --> 02:40:57,414 THAT SPACE. AND I THINK THE 5056 02:40:57,414 --> 02:40:58,348 LABOR PARTNERS HAVE BEEN ASKING 5057 02:40:58,348 --> 02:41:00,917 A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS. 5058 02:41:00,917 --> 02:41:02,486 -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 5059 02:41:02,486 --> 02:41:04,354 AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO 5060 02:41:04,354 --> 02:41:06,223 WRAP US UP AND THANK YOU ALL SO 5061 02:41:06,223 --> 02:41:08,025 MUCH FOR PRESENTING TODAY. 5062 02:41:08,025 --> 02:41:08,725 GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'LL 5063 02:41:08,725 --> 02:41:10,260 KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING. 5064 02:41:10,260 --> 02:41:11,795 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 5065 02:41:11,795 --> 02:41:13,363 COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE REACHED THE 5066 02:41:13,363 --> 02:41:14,431 END OF TODAY'S AGENDA. IS THERE 5067 02:41:14,431 --> 02:41:16,166 ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME 5068 02:41:16,166 --> 02:41:18,769 BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE 5069 02:41:18,769 --> 02:41:20,370 CLOSE OUT? I SEE THE NEXT 5070 02:41:20,370 --> 02:41:21,304 COMMITTEE ALREADY SITTING IN 5071 02:41:21,304 --> 02:41:22,572 CHAMBERS. SO I THINK WE GOT TO 5072 02:41:22,572 --> 02:41:24,174 GET OUT OF HERE. UM, COLLEAGUES, 5073 02:41:24,174 --> 02:41:25,175 THE NEXT HUMAN SERVICES, LABOR 5074 02:41:25,175 --> 02:41:26,643 AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 5075 02:41:26,643 --> 02:41:28,378 COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED FOR 5076 02:41:28,378 --> 02:41:29,680 FRIDAY, AUGUST 21st AT 9:30 5077 02:41:29,680 --> 02:41:30,881 A.M.. HEARING NO FURTHER 5078 02:41:30,881 --> 02:41:35,819 BUSINESS. WE ARE ADJOURNED. 5079 02:41:35,819 --> 02:41:37,688 -- THANK YOU.