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-- OCTOBER 15th, 2026. SELECT 

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BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING WILL 

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COME TO ORDER. IT IS 9:32 A.M.. 

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I'M DAN STRAUSS, CHAIR OF THE 

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COMMITTEE CLERK. WILL YOU PLEASE

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CALL THE ROLL? 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 

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COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER HERE. 

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH 

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COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ HERE. 

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COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE HERE. 

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COUNCILMEMBER LIN COUNCILMEMBER 

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RINCK HERE. 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA PRESENT.

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-- CHAIR STRAUSS SIX. PRESENT. 

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-- THANK YOU. ALL NOT PRESENT 

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ARE EXCUSED UNTIL THEY ARRIVE. 

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WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA

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TODAY. WE HAVE THE CENTRAL STAFF

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ANALYSIS OF THE SEATTLE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT. SEATTLE FIRE 

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DEPARTMENT, CARE DEPARTMENT AND 

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HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AS 

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WELL AS THE UNIFIED CARE TEAM 

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BUDGET. SO THE ANALYSIS ON THESE

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FIVE DIFFERENT GROUPS BROKEN 

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AN AFTERNOON SESSION. THE 

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SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

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PRESENTATION ITSELF IS 26 PAGES 

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LONG. AND SO WE MAY BREAK 

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DIRECTLY AFTER THAT TO HOLD THE 

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REMAINING SESSIONS AFTER LUNCH. 

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IF WE DO NOT GET TO ALL SESSIONS

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TODAY, WE WILL HAVE FRIDAY 

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AFTERNOON COMMITTEE. SO JUST 

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WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES MINDFUL OF

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THE TIME TODAY AND THE AMOUNT OF

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INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO GET 

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THROUGH, I WILL STILL CALL FOR 

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ABOUT A ONE HOUR BREAK UNLESS 

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PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO POWER 

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THROUGH OR THEY NEED MORE TIME. 

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IT WAS NICE TO HAVE AN HOUR AND 

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15 YESTERDAY AND TODAY IS THE 

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GREAT SHAKEOUT. SO IN ABOUT 45 

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MINUTES AT 1015 WE WILL HAVE AN 

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EARTHQUAKE DRILL. WE HAD AN 

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EARTHQUAKE TWO WEEKS AGO WHILE 

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WE WERE IN COMMITTEE, AND NO ONE

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DID IT CORRECTLY, INCLUDING 

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MYSELF. SO THIS IS A GOOD 

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REMINDER ON HOW TO PRACTICE TO 

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GLASS AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT 

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WE JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT TWO 

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OUT OF THE FOUR WALLS CONTAIN A 

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LOT OF GLASS IN HERE. SO JUST AS

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WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT GOING

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INTO THE GREAT SHAKEOUT TODAY, 

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THESE ARE THE LONGEST CHAIR'S 

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COMMENTS THAT I'VE PROVIDED 

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TODAY. AND COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

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IS GOING TO SHARE WITH US WHY 

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WE'RE WEARING PURPLE TODAY. 

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-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND FOR 

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THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, WE HAD 

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THE GREAT PRESS CONFERENCE 

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YESTERDAY ON GENDER BASED 

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VIOLENCE, WHICH HAS THREE PARTS 

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SEXUAL ASSAULT, COMMERCIAL 

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SEXUAL, SEXUAL EXPLOITATION AND 

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DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AND SO TODAY 

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IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WEAR 

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PURPLE TODAY, IN SUPPORT. SO 

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CHAIR, NICE JOB WITH YOUR PURPLE

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TIE. GOOD WORK. 

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-- THANK YOU. AND I SEE MANY OF 

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US UP HERE ARE WEARING PURPLE. 

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AND ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE 

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ARE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO 

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PRESENTATIONS. THIS HAS BEEN THE

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LONGEST CHAIR'S REPORT SINCE WE

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BUDGET. AND SO IF THERE'S NO 

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OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE 

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ADOPTED WITH THE DEPARTMENTS 

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THAT I LISTED OUT BEFORE HEARING

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NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS 

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ADOPTED. WE DON'T HAVE VERBAL 

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PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. IT'S ONLY

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SECTION. SO WE WILL MOVE INTO 

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THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS 

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TODAY. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE 

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READ THE FIRST ITEM INTO THE 

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RECORD 

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-- SPD DESECRATING DEAD BODIES 

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-- AGENDA ITEM ONE. SEATTLE 

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POLICE FOR BRIEFING AND 

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DISCUSSION. 

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-- THANK YOU. WE ARE JOINED BY 

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DIRECTOR LISH WHITSON AND GREG 

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DOSS OF COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 

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GREG, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A MEATY

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PRESENTATION FOR US TODAY, SO 

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WHY DON'T WE RUN THROUGH THE 

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WHOLE THING? AND THEN IF THERE 

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ARE, IF WE NEED TO COME BACK TO 

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CERTAIN SECTIONS AND WALK 

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THROUGH SECTIONS FOR 

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COUNCILMEMBER CONVERSATION, WE 

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CAN OR FOLKS WILL JUST SHARE 

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WHAT WALK THROUGH THE 

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PRESENTATION AS THEY WANT TO 

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COMMENT ON IT OR ASK QUESTIONS. 

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SO WITH THAT, OVER TO YOU, 

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INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TAKE IT 

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AWAY. 

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-- GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, 

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COUNCILMEMBER CHAIR STRAUSS GREG

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DOSS, COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 

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YES, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION 

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TODAY, SO I GUESS I'LL APOLOGIZE

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UP FRONT. I WILL BE TALKING A 

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LITTLE WHILE, BUT WE'LL HAVE 

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PLENTY OF CHANCE TO TAKE YOUR 

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QUESTIONS. SO I'M GOING TO JUMP

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RIGHT INTO IT. THE 2020 728 

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PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE SEATTLE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD INCREASE

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BY ABOUT $68 MILLION, AND 

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THAT'S 13.9% COMPARED TO THE 

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2026 ADOPTED BUDGET. AND I NEED 

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TO PUT THIS ON SCREEN DIONNE. 

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THERE WE GO. I DON'T WANT TO 

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MAKE IT BIGGER. THAT'S NOT THE 

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WAY I WANT TO GO. I NEED TO GO 

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HERE. PARDON ME FOR JUST ONE 

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MOMENT. YOU'RE FINE. TOWARDS 

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THE BOTTOM. GOT IT. THANKS. 

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OKAY. SORRY FOR THAT SLIGHT 

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DELAY. SO, AS I SAID, THE BUDGET

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INCREASES BY ABOUT $68 MILLION, 

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AND THAT'S ABOUT A 13.9% 

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INCREASE OVER THE 2026 ADOPTED 

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BUDGET. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT 

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INCREASE IS IN OUT OF $56 

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MILLION. THAT IS PUT INTO THE 

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THAT WERE BARGAINED AS PART OF 

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AND SEATTLE POLICE MANAGEMENT 

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ASSOCIATION CONTRACTS THAT WERE 

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SETTLED LAST YEAR. SO THE MONEY 

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TO PAY OFFICERS FOR THOSE 

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CONTRACT SETTLEMENTS IS IS PUT 

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INTO THE 2027 BUDGET FOR FIRST 

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TIME, AND IT'S A FAIRLY SIZABLE

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SUM. THE SECOND MOST SIGNIFICANT

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INCREASE IN THE BUDGET IS 

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RELATED TO 12.5 MILLION. THAT IS

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ADDED FOR SWORN SALARIES. AND 

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THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 1250

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FUNDED FTE. THAT IS USED TO PAY 

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FOR SWORN AND WILL BE TALKING 

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ABOUT THAT THROUGHOUT THE 

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PRESENTATION. AS WAS POINTED OUT

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BY THE EXECUTIVE DURING THEIR 

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PRESENTATION, 95% OF SPD'S 

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BUDGET IS RELATED TO EITHER 

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STAFF OVERTIME OR CENTRAL 

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CHARGES. SO AS YOU LOOK AT THIS 

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TABLE IN FRONT OF YOU, REALLY 

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WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS 

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INCREASES HERE THAT ARE SPREAD 

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OUT, THAT ARE FOR WAGE INCREASES

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FOR THE UNIONS THAT I JUST 

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MENTIONED, OR FOR STAFFING 

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INCREASES, THEY ARE THERE'S NOT

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ONE PARTICULAR CHANGE THAT IS 

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THIS STAGE. THERE IS A 

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SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FOR THE 

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SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA PROGRAM. 

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THERE ARE SOME NEW CAMERAS THAT 

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ARE GOING TO BE PUT OUT INTO THE

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CITY, AND THOSE THOSE CAMERAS. 

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THAT BUDGET IS MANAGED BY SPD. 

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SO THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT 

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INCREASE. THE REST OF IT IS 

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PRETTY MUCH ALL RELATED TO, AS I

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SAY, EITHER THE THE SWORN 

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STAFFING OR THE LABOR INCREASES.

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THERE WERE A NUMBER OF 

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INDIVIDUAL CUTS THAT WERE MADE 

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OF POSITIONS, AND THE EXECUTIVE 

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WENT OVER THOSE IN DETAIL DURING

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ITS PRESENTATION. I'M NOT GOING

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TO GO OVER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 

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THOSE. I WILL BE GOING OVER THE 

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MOST SIGNIFICANT ONES. I'VE GOT

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EIGHT ISSUES UP TODAY IN THE 

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ISSUE PAPER. SO I THINK PROBABLY

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WE WILL HIT AN ISSUE. OR IF YOU 

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HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A POSITION

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ELIMINATION, IT'S PROBABLY ONE 

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OF MY ISSUES. IF IT'S NOT, THEN

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WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THE END. 

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ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO 

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AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THIS. SPD, 

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OF COURSE, HAS ONE OF THE 

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LARGEST WORKFORCES IN THE CITY 

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WITH ABOUT 1879 FTE, ABOUT THREE

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QUARTERS OF THOSE FTE ARE SWORN 

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OFFICERS. I HAVE SOME 

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ATTACHMENTS IN THE ISSUE PAPER 

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THAT BREAKS THAT NUMBER DOWN. 

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WHERE THERE'S ATTACHMENT, ONE 

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THAT SHOWS L 498 OFFICERS ARE 

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DEPLOYED TO THE PRECINCTS IN 

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SEATTLE AND ANSWER THE 911 

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CALLS. THE ATTACHMENT TWO IN THE

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ISSUE PAPER SHOWS A BREAKDOWN OF

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HOW ALL OFFICERS ARE DISTRIBUTED

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THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT, 

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WHETHER IT BE ON SPECIALTY UNITS

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LIKE WATER OR HARBOR, OR 

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CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. AND 

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WE'LL ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT 

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THAT A BIT LATER IN THE 

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PRESENTATION. SO EVERY AUGUST, 

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SPD SUBMITS A STAFFING PLAN THAT

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IDENTIFIES THE DEPARTMENT'S 

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HIRING AND SEPARATION 

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PROJECTIONS FOR THE UPCOMING 

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YEAR AND WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT 

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OF YOU IS THE HISTORICAL HIRES 

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AND SEPARATIONS. AND THEN YOU 

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SEE A NET ADDS COLUMN. THAT'S A

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SIMPLE PRODUCT OF OF HIRES, LESS

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SEPARATIONS. AND YOU'LL SEE 

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THAT IN 2026, WE THERE'S A 

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PROJECTED NUMBER IN 2027, A PLAN

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NUMBER. AND IN 2028, A PLAN 

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NUMBER. IF THE 2020 728 PROPOSED

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BUDGET AND THE MONEY THAT IS 

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DEDICATED TO STAFFING IS 

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REALIZED IN THE WAY THAT THE 

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EXECUTIVE HAS PROGRAMED IT IN 

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THE BUDGET, THERE WILL BE 128 

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NEW HIRES IN 2027, AND THERE 

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WILL BE 85 SEPARATIONS, AND THAT

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WILL CREATE 43 NEW OFFICER ADDS.

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IN 2028, THERE WOULD BE 79 NEW 

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HIRES AND 79 SEPARATIONS, AND 

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THAT YEAR IS DELIBERATELY 

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CALIBRATED TO BE SUSTAINMENT 

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HIRING. THERE WOULD NOT BE 

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GROWTH IN THE DEPARTMENT EACH OF

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THOSE YEARS IS, AS YOU SEE, AT 

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THE VERY RIGHT OF THE TABLE, 

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CORRESPONDS TO 1250 FTE. THIS IS

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A NUMBER THAT THAT HAS BEEN 

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DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT LATELY. 

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IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, THIS IS 

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NOT A COUNT OF OFFICERS, 1250 

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FUNDED FTE IS A BUDGET NUMBER, 

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AND IT'S A BUDGET NUMBER THAT 

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SUPPORTS NOT JUST SWORN 

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OFFICERS, BUT ALSO RECRUITS WHO 

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DON'T TAKE THE SWORN OATH UNTIL

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THEY GET TO THE TO THE 

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DEPARTMENT AND FINISH THEIR 

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ACADEMY TRAINING. SO WHEN WE'RE

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TALKING ABOUT 1250, IT WILL 

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NEVER BE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 

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OFFICERS. IT ALSO INCLUDES ABOUT

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RIGHT NOW, 150 STUDENT OFFICERS 

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THAT COULD NOT BE OUT ON THE 

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STREET ANSWERING CALLS. SO IT'S

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A FUNDED NUMBER. IT'S A BUDGET 

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NUMBER, AND IT SUPPORTS A 

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PARTICULAR LEVEL OF HIRING IN 

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THE STAFFING PLAN. THE WAY THAT 

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THE MAYOR USES THOSE FUNDS, 

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AGAIN, 43 NET NEW IN 2027 AND 

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SUSTAINMENT HIRING ONLY IN 2028.

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SO DIVE INTO THE DETAILS A 

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LITTLE BIT. WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS 

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A BAR CHART THAT SHOWS HOW 

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HIRING IS GOING TO LOOK OVER THE

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BIENNIUM. AS I MENTIONED 

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EARLIER, THE GOAL IS FOR 

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SUSTAINMENT HIRING IN 2028. THE 

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MAYOR HAS SHIFTED SHIFTED THE 

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WAY THAT POLICE STAFFING IS 

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MONITORED AND THE WAY IT IS 

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PROGRAMED. USUALLY WE WOULD BE 

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TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY NET ADDS.

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THE MAYOR'S BUDGET ADDS TO BY 

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WAY OF OFFICERS. IN THIS 

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PARTICULAR CASE, WHAT THE MAYOR 

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HAS DONE IS ESTABLISHED A FUNDED

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FTE CAP, THAT 1250 CAP THAT I 

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DISCUSSED A MOMENT AGO AND THAT 

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IS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT IS

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BEING ADDED TO THE BUDGET. AND 

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THE MAYOR IS SIMPLY SAYING, 

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MANAGE TO THAT FUNDING LEVEL. SO

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I'M DESCRIBING TO YOU WHAT THAT

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FUNDING LEVEL BUYS AND THE WAY 

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IT WORKS OUT IS THAT IN THE 

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FIRST COUPLE QUARTERS OF 2027, 

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THE FIRST TWO BARS THERE, YOU'LL

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SEE THE RECRUITS ARE HIRED AT A 

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RATE OF ABOUT 36 PER QUARTER. 

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THAT'S ABOUT 12 RECRUITS PER 

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MONTH. AND THEN LATERALS ARE 

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HIRED ABOUT TWO PER MONTH. AND 

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SO TO MEET THAT 1250 CAP IN 

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2028, THE DEPARTMENT CAN HIRE AT

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ITS CURRENT LEVEL, THE 36 

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OFFICERS OR 36 RECRUITS PER 

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QUARTER IT CAN HIRE AT THAT 

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LEVEL ONLY FOR ABOUT TWO MORE 

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MONTHS, AND THAT IT NEEDS TO 

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START REDUCING ITS ITS HIRING SO

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THAT WHEN WE GET TO 2028, THEY 

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CAN STAY WITHIN THE FUNDED FTE 

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LEVEL. SO WE'RE BACK TO TALKING

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ABOUT WHAT THE FUNDED FTE LEVEL 

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WILL, WILL, WILL BUY. AND IF YOU

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LOOK AT 25, 26 AND 27, THE 

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HIRING PACE THAT SPD HAS BEEN 

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ON, THE INCREASED HIRING PACE 

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HAS RESULTED IN A LOT OF STUDENT

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OFFICERS AND A LOT OF RECRUITS. 

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RIGHT NOW, THE DEPARTMENT HAS 

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ABOUT 50 RECRUITS AND ABOUT 150 

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SWORN STUDENT OFFICERS. SO A BIG

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CHUNK OF OF THE DEPARTMENT'S 

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WORKFORCE RIGHT NOW IS OFFICERS 

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IN TRAINING. THOSE OFFICERS ARE 

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GOING TO MOVE OUT OF THE 

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TRAINING PHASE IN THE NEXT YEAR 

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OR TWO. AND AS THAT HAPPENS, 

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YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE NUMBER 

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OF BOTH DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS AND 

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FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS INCREASE.

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AND SO THE BLUE LINE HERE ON 

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THIS CHART IS THE FULLY TRAINED 

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OFFICERS AND THE GREEN LINE IS 

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THE DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS. THE 

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DIFFERENCE IS THAT A FULLY 

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TRAINED OFFICER IS JUST WHAT IT 

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SOUNDS LIKE, A DEPLOYABLE 

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OFFICER IS. THAT NUMBER IS A 

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LITTLE BIT LOWER BECAUSE IT 

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TAKES OUT OFFICERS THAT ARE ON 

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ANY KIND OF LONG TERM LEAVE, IF 

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THEY'RE ON LONG TERM DISABILITY

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OR MILITARY LEAVE OR ANY OTHER 

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KIND OF LEAVE, THAT IS OVER MANY

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MONTHS. THEN THEY'RE TAKEN OUT 

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OF THE EQUATION. AND WHAT WE'RE

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LEFT WITH IS THE OFFICERS THAT 

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YOU CAN ACTUALLY DEPLOY. AND 

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THAT'S THAT GREEN LINE. ONE 

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THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE 

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ABOUT THE MAYOR'S STAFFING PLAN

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IS THAT THE 1250 F LEVEL AT 1250

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FUNDING LEVEL, FTE THAT ARE 

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PROVIDED IN 2027 AND 2028, THE 

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STAFFING PLAN DOES NOT USE ALL 

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OF THAT MONEY IN 2027, THE. IN 

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ORDER TO STAFF AT THE RATE THAT 

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THE MAYOR HAS IDENTIFIED, WHICH 

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IS FOR 43 NET NEW IN 2027, THE 

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DEPARTMENT ONLY NEEDS TO USE 

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1229 FUNDED FTE. ITS PLAN IS TO 

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TAKE THE REMAINDER. THE 

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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ONE TWO, 

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TWO NINE FTE AND THE 1250 FTE, 

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AND MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY INTO

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THE TECHNICAL SERVICES BUREAU TO

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PAY FOR SOME LONG TERM. 

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TECHNOLOGY COSTS THAT THE 

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DEPARTMENT HAS HAD AND HAS HAD 

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DIFFICULTY COVERING THOSE COSTS 

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IN THE PAST THEY HAVE USED SWORN

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SALARY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR SOME 

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OF THOSE COSTS, SO THAT THIS 

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MOVE IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED IN ANY

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WAY. IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE 

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DEPARTMENT HAD PLANNED TO DO. SO

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THE POINT BEING THAT NOT ALL OF 

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THE 1250 FTE IS NEEDED IN 27, 

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AND THERE WILL BE SOME FUNDING 

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THAT WILL GO TO OTHER THINGS. 

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AND TALK JUST A MINUTE ABOUT 

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WHAT THOSE OTHER THINGS ARE. THE

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DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT 4.5 MILLION 

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BETWEEN WHAT THEY NEED FOR 

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PAYING SWORN SALARIES AND WHAT 

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THEY'VE GOT, AND ABOUT 2.5 

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MILLION OF IT IS GOING TO GO TO 

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THAT TECHNOLOGY SERVICES BUREAU,

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AS I MENTIONED, AND THE 

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REMAINING 2 MILLION IS GOING TO 

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BE AN AMOUNT THAT IS 

416
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CHARACTERIZED AS A CUSHION FOR 

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THE SWORN STAFFING PLAN. THAT IS

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ACTUALLY A GOOD THING TO DO. THE

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STAFFING PLAN HAS HAD SOME NEW 

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IMPACTS THIS YEAR AROUND 

421
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SEPARATIONS LESS OFFICERS, FEWER

422
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OFFICERS WERE LEAVING THE FORCE,

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AND THAT RESULTED IN IN THE 

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DEPARTMENT NEEDING TO SLOW DOWN 

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ITS HIRING TO STAY WITHIN 

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BUDGET. THAT'S THE KIND OF FORCE

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THAT HAVING SOME EXTRA FUNDING 

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AVAILABLE WOULD HELP TO MAKE 

429
00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:33,359
SURE THAT YOU CAN MEET YOUR 43 

430
00:16:33,359 --> 00:16:34,026
NET NEW OFFICERS. AND SO THAT'S

431
00:16:34,026 --> 00:16:36,895
A BIT OF A CUSHION. SO AGAIN, 

432
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THIS 4.5 MILLION, TWO AND A HALF

433
00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:41,567
MOVED OUT TO PAY FOR TECHNOLOGY 

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ITEMS, ONE 2 MILLION STAYING IN 

435
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AS A CUSHION FOR THE STAFFING 

436
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PLAN. SO NOW I'M GOING TO GO 

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OVER THE OPTIONS THAT CENTRAL 

438
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STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED FOR YOU ALL

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TO CONSIDER. AND WHAT WE'VE GOT

440
00:17:02,488 --> 00:17:04,723
SEVERAL OPTIONS HERE. THE FIRST 

441
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ONE IS THE 2 MILLION THAT I 

442
00:17:06,392 --> 00:17:09,762
MENTIONED IN 2027. THAT WOULD BE

443
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A CUSHION TO THE STAFFING PLAN 

444
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SO THAT IT CAN ABSORB ANY, ANY 

445
00:17:12,364 --> 00:17:15,334
KIND OF IMPACTS AROUND SWORN 

446
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HIRING THAT AREN'T EXPECTED. IT

447
00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:22,608
IS. IT'S A POLICY OPTION. IF 

448
00:17:22,608 --> 00:17:24,643
THE COUNCIL WISHED TO USE THAT 

449
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TO HIRE NEW SWORN OFFICERS OR 

450
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FOR ANY OTHER GENERAL FUND 

451
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MATTER. SO THAT IS AN AMOUNT 

452
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THAT COULD BE REMOVED BY REMOVE 

453
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IT. YOU'RE SIMPLY JUST SINKING 

454
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THE SALARY BUDGET FOR SPD TO THE

455
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EXPECTED NEEDS TO PAY OFFICERS. 

456
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OPTION B IS TO RETAIN CURRENT 

457
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RECRUIT HIRING AN AVERAGE OF 

458
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ABOUT 12 PER MONTH THROUGH 2028.

459
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I SHOWED YOU IN THAT EARLIER 

460
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SLIDE HOW RECRUIT HIRING 

461
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CURRENTLY AND IN THE BEGINNING 

462
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OF OF 2027 IS ABOUT 12 RECRUITS 

463
00:17:58,510 --> 00:18:01,480
PER MONTH THAT THAT HIRING WILL 

464
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,217
SLOW DOWN TO ABOUT SEVEN. AND SO

465
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SEVEN RECRUITS PER MONTH. SO IF 

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THE COUNCIL WANTED TO KEEP THAT 

467
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RECRUIT HIRING AT THE SAME LEVEL

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AS NOW, ESSENTIALLY JUST NOT 

469
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SLOW HIRING AT THE DEPARTMENT, 

470
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THEN YOU WOULD PICK OPTION B, 

471
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AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ADD OF

472
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792,000 IN 2027. AND THAT WOULD 

473
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ADD ABOUT 23 NET NEW OFFICERS IN

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IN 2027. AND THIS IS ABOVE THE 

475
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MAYOR'S PLAN. AND THEN AN 11.6 

476
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MILLION ADD IN IN 2028 WOULD ADD

477
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69 NET NEW OFFICERS. ONE OF THE 

478
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THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT

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TO MENTION, THE EXECUTIVE HAS 

480
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PUT FORTH A PROPOSAL, REALLY A 

481
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PARADIGM SHIFT, AGAIN, IN THE 

482
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WAY THAT THAT POLICE ARE 

483
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BUDGETED, BUDGETED AND MANAGED, 

484
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MANAGED. AND IT'S THE CASE THAT

485
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IN THE PAST THERE WOULD BE A NEW

486
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OFFICER TARGET AND THE 

487
00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:03,642
DEPARTMENT WOULD RACE TOWARDS 

488
00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:05,010
THAT TARGET WITHOUT WORRYING 

489
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ABOUT HOW MUCH FUNDING IT NEEDED

490
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IN THE FUTURE, GIVEN THAT 

491
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THERE'S A FOCUS ON THIS BY THE 

492
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EXECUTIVE I HAVE PUT INTO THESE 

493
00:19:13,285 --> 00:19:14,753
OPTIONS THE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS 

494
00:19:14,753 --> 00:19:16,622
FOR FUNDING. IF YOU WERE TO TAKE

495
00:19:16,622 --> 00:19:19,691
OPTION B IN 2029, THE COUNCIL 

496
00:19:19,691 --> 00:19:20,826
WOULD NEED TO ADD OR THE MAYOR 

497
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:24,997
WOULD NEED TO ADD 22 MILLION TO 

498
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:28,333
THE CITY BUDGET. SO OPTION C IS 

499
00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:29,668
PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD CALL THE 

500
00:19:29,668 --> 00:19:33,705
FULL MEAL DEAL. OPTION B IS THE 

501
00:19:33,705 --> 00:19:35,307
VALUE MENU. OPTION B IS JUST 

502
00:19:35,307 --> 00:19:37,209
KEEPING THE RECRUIT HIRING AT 

503
00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:39,578
THE SAME OPTION. C KEEPS 

504
00:19:39,578 --> 00:19:42,281
EVERYTHING THE SAME. IT KEEPS 12

505
00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:44,917
RECRUITS PER MONTH AND TWO 

506
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:47,619
LATERALS PER MONTH, AND IT WOULD

507
00:19:47,619 --> 00:19:49,588
KEEP ALL OF THAT HIRING THE SAME

508
00:19:49,588 --> 00:19:51,523
THROUGH 2028. IT WOULD REQUIRE A

509
00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:55,027
HIGHER INVESTMENT, 2.1 MILLION 

510
00:19:55,027 --> 00:19:57,896
IN 2027, AND THAT WOULD RESULT 

511
00:19:57,896 --> 00:20:02,034
IN 38 NET NEW OFFICERS. AND IT 

512
00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:02,601
WOULD REQUIRE 17,000,000 IN 

513
00:20:02,601 --> 00:20:05,470
2028. AND THAT WOULD BE THAT 

514
00:20:05,470 --> 00:20:07,139
WOULD ADD 87 NEW OFFICERS. AND 

515
00:20:07,139 --> 00:20:12,844
IT WOULD HAVE ONGOING COSTS OF 

516
00:20:12,844 --> 00:20:14,846
29.1 MILLION IN 2029. SO FAIRLY 

517
00:20:14,846 --> 00:20:17,716
SIGNIFICANT COSTS FOR ABOUT 125 

518
00:20:17,716 --> 00:20:21,153
NEW OFFICERS. AS YOU SEE, THERE 

519
00:20:21,153 --> 00:20:23,755
ARE OPTIONS HERE. EITHER OPTION,

520
00:20:23,755 --> 00:20:25,624
OPTION A TAKING THE MONEY AND 

521
00:20:25,624 --> 00:20:29,127
USING IT FOR EITHER B OR C IS IS

522
00:20:29,127 --> 00:20:34,199
ANOTHER OPTION. AND THEN E IS NO

523
00:20:34,199 --> 00:20:38,136
CHANGE. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO

524
00:20:38,136 --> 00:20:40,072
MOVE ALONG. SO THE NEXT ISSUE IS

525
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,240
A QUESTION. WHAT IS THE RIGHT 

526
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,008
NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS FOR 

527
00:20:43,008 --> 00:20:45,644
SEATTLE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT 

528
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:47,846
YOU ALL DISCUSSED AT LENGTH 

529
00:20:47,846 --> 00:20:48,647
DURING THE EXECUTIVE 

530
00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:51,416
PRESENTATION. AND I HEARD 

531
00:20:51,416 --> 00:20:53,185
SEVERAL TIMES FROM MANY OF YOU 

532
00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:56,054
THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN 

533
00:20:56,054 --> 00:20:58,023
SEEING A COMPARISON FOR SEATTLE 

534
00:20:58,023 --> 00:21:00,726
TO SIMILAR SIZED CITIES THAT 

535
00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:01,293
WOULD SHOW POPULATION CRIME 

536
00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:02,961
RATES, THE NUMBER OF SWORN 

537
00:21:02,961 --> 00:21:05,464
OFFICERS, AND HOW THAT WORKED 

538
00:21:05,464 --> 00:21:08,700
OUT FROM A STARTING POINT FOR 

539
00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,235
OFFICERS PER THOUSAND. AND SO 

540
00:21:10,235 --> 00:21:11,103
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE HERE IN 

541
00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:13,705
FRONT OF YOU, RESPONSIVE TO YOUR

542
00:21:13,705 --> 00:21:17,009
REQUEST. GO OVER THIS AT A HIGH 

543
00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:18,910
LEVEL. THE DATA HERE IS ALL FOR 

544
00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:20,345
2025, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LAST 

545
00:21:20,345 --> 00:21:23,215
FULL YEAR OF REPORTING. IT WAS 

546
00:21:23,215 --> 00:21:25,384
TAKEN FROM THE FBI. THE FBI 

547
00:21:25,384 --> 00:21:27,286
REQUIRES LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO 

548
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,920
REPORT THEIR CRIME DATA AND DATA

549
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,822
ABOUT THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, 

550
00:21:30,822 --> 00:21:32,290
AND THAT IS TRUE OF ALL THE 

551
00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:33,592
COLUMNS. UNTIL WE GET TO THE 

552
00:21:33,592 --> 00:21:35,060
POLICE BUDGET COLUMN, WHICH IS 

553
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:36,962
THE SECOND FROM THE RIGHT, THAT 

554
00:21:36,962 --> 00:21:41,166
ONE IS SIMPLY TAKEN. THE DATA 

555
00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:43,001
FROM THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE 

556
00:21:43,001 --> 00:21:44,703
SITES FOR THOSE VARIOUS CITIES 

557
00:21:44,703 --> 00:21:47,372
FOR 2025, AND THEN THE RATE 

558
00:21:47,372 --> 00:21:49,041
RINCK SPENDING COLUMN. THAT'S A

559
00:21:49,041 --> 00:21:50,409
COLUMN I ADDED BECAUSE I 

560
00:21:50,409 --> 00:21:52,310
ANTICIPATED THAT, THAT YOU ALL 

561
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:53,679
WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE

562
00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:54,980
THIS. ALL THAT REALLY DOES IS IT

563
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:56,581
TAKES THE BUDGET AND DIVIDES IT 

564
00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:58,417
BY THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS, SO 

565
00:21:58,417 --> 00:21:59,818
THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE WHAT KIND 

566
00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:03,455
OF INVESTMENT IS BEING MADE. 

567
00:22:03,455 --> 00:22:06,525
FINANCIAL INVESTMENT IN IN THOSE

568
00:22:06,525 --> 00:22:09,027
OFFICERS. I THINK WHAT THIS 

569
00:22:09,027 --> 00:22:14,333
SHOWS IS. THIS SHOWS OBVIOUSLY 

570
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,734
THAT THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE 

571
00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:20,205
YOU'RE AT IN THE COUNTRY AND 

572
00:22:20,205 --> 00:22:23,675
YOUR YOUR BUDGET SIZE, THERE ARE

573
00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:26,178
VARIOUS LEVELS OF INVESTMENT IN 

574
00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:27,713
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS KIND

575
00:22:27,713 --> 00:22:29,548
OF APPROACH, THIS OFFICER TO 

576
00:22:29,548 --> 00:22:31,416
POPULATION RATIO IS AN EASY 

577
00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:35,220
METHOD TO COMPARE STAFFING. BUT 

578
00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:36,254
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A GREAT 

579
00:22:36,254 --> 00:22:37,522
METHOD. IT'S, IT'S PROBLEMATIC

580
00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:39,658
FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 

581
00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:42,394
ONE REASON IS THAT IT DOESN'T 

582
00:22:42,394 --> 00:22:44,863
ACCOUNT FOR GEOGRAPHICAL 

583
00:22:44,863 --> 00:22:46,598
DIFFERENCES, DIFFERENCES IN 

584
00:22:46,598 --> 00:22:48,166
WORKLOAD, CALL COMPLEXITY, SAY, 

585
00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:50,168
FOR INSTANCE, SEATTLE, WITH THE 

586
00:22:50,168 --> 00:22:53,004
DOWNTOWN AREA BEING QUITE HILLY 

587
00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:55,207
AND TRAFFIC CONGESTING THE 

588
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:56,208
DOWNTOWN AREA, OR THE FACT THAT 

589
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:59,010
WE ARE SURROUNDED BY WATER AND 

590
00:22:59,010 --> 00:23:00,679
HAVE OUR PRECINCTS DIVIDED IN 

591
00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:03,215
HALF THESE, THESE KINDS OF 

592
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,050
OBSTACLES CAN MAKE IT UNIQUE AND

593
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,017
DIFFERENT AND DIFFICULT FOR 

594
00:23:06,017 --> 00:23:07,552
SEATTLE TO RESPOND TO. 911 

595
00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:09,287
CALLS, SAY, VERSUS AN AREA OR A 

596
00:23:09,287 --> 00:23:12,657
CITY THAT'S COMPLETELY FLAT, 

597
00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:13,825
TRANSIENT POPULATIONS, PLACES 

598
00:23:13,825 --> 00:23:14,926
THAT HAVE A LOT OF TOURISTS COME

599
00:23:14,926 --> 00:23:17,262
IN DURING THE DAY, PLACES THAT 

600
00:23:17,262 --> 00:23:21,867
ARE HUBS FOR WORKING OR LIVING. 

601
00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:23,468
AND THEN IF IT'S WORK BASED, 

602
00:23:23,468 --> 00:23:24,603
PEOPLE CLEAR OUT AT NIGHT. A LOT

603
00:23:24,603 --> 00:23:28,373
OF THESE FACTORS CAN MAKE IT 

604
00:23:28,373 --> 00:23:28,974
DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT SEATTLE 

605
00:23:28,974 --> 00:23:31,510
SHOULD BE COMPARED TO ANY OF 

606
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:33,111
THESE CITIES. WHEN IT COMES TO 

607
00:23:33,111 --> 00:23:35,247
DETERMINING HOW MANY POLICE 

608
00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:38,083
OFFICERS THE CITY SHOULD HAVE, 

609
00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,251
IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT 

610
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,486
THE BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT 

611
00:23:41,486 --> 00:23:43,755
WHETHER OR NOT MORE POLICE 

612
00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:46,591
OFFICERS SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY 

613
00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:49,127
THAT BUDGET. MOST PEOPLE DON'T 

614
00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:50,862
UNDERSTAND THAT POLICE OFFICERS 

615
00:23:50,862 --> 00:23:51,863
ARE PAID VERY DIFFERENTLY 

616
00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:52,931
DEPENDING ON THE PART OF THE 

617
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:54,499
COUNTRY THEY'RE IN. IT'S THE 

618
00:23:54,499 --> 00:23:56,835
CASE THAT IF YOU'RE IN ON THE 

619
00:23:56,835 --> 00:24:01,139
EAST COAST, AND I'M GOING TO 

620
00:24:01,139 --> 00:24:01,706
JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND, I 

621
00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:02,741
CAN'T SEE THE TIME. SO CAN 

622
00:24:02,741 --> 00:24:05,544
SOMEONE GIVE ME A HEADS UP WHEN 

623
00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:06,178
WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO 1015? 

624
00:24:06,178 --> 00:24:06,578
-- YEAH, WE'LL. 

625
00:24:06,578 --> 00:24:10,248
-- GIVE YOU. OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE

626
00:24:10,248 --> 00:24:11,683
ON THE EAST COAST, OFFICERS ARE 

627
00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:13,985
PAID QUITE A BIT LESS THAN 

628
00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:14,920
OFFICERS ON THE WEST COAST. JUST

629
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,856
AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT A 

630
00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:19,324
FIVE AND A HALF YEAR OFFICER IN 

631
00:24:19,324 --> 00:24:23,161
THE CITY OF NEW YORK, THAT 

632
00:24:23,161 --> 00:24:24,129
OFFICER MAKES ABOUT 122,000 AS 

633
00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:25,697
THEIR BASE PAY. IF YOU LOOK AT 

634
00:24:25,697 --> 00:24:27,265
THE SAME OFFICER IN SEATTLE, 

635
00:24:27,265 --> 00:24:28,800
ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS FIVE 

636
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,837
YEARS, THAT OFFICER MAKES 

637
00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:34,506
155,000. SO IT'S BECAUSE 

638
00:24:34,506 --> 00:24:36,241
OFFICERS HAVE SUCH VARIED RATES 

639
00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:37,242
OF PAY THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT 

640
00:24:37,242 --> 00:24:39,377
SOME OF THESE EAST COAST CITIES,

641
00:24:39,377 --> 00:24:43,248
YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY HAVE MORE 

642
00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:44,683
OFFICERS PER THOUSAND THAN SOME 

643
00:24:44,683 --> 00:24:46,985
OF THE WEST COAST CITIES. AND 

644
00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:49,421
THE BUDGETS, THE BUDGETS REFLECT

645
00:24:49,421 --> 00:24:52,390
HIGHER SPENDING ON ON OFFICERS. 

646
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:56,561
IT'S IT'S NOT A GREAT WAY. 

647
00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:58,063
IT'S REALLY NOT A GREAT WAY TO 

648
00:24:58,063 --> 00:24:59,998
COMPARE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR

649
00:24:59,998 --> 00:25:03,802
OFFICER LEVEL NEEDS TO BE. IT IS

650
00:25:03,802 --> 00:25:06,238
SORT OF A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AND A 

651
00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:10,609
GOOD FIRST PLACE TO START. SO 

652
00:25:10,609 --> 00:25:12,744
WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO 

653
00:25:12,744 --> 00:25:14,112
DETERMINE HOW MANY OFFICERS YOU 

654
00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:15,146
NEED? WELL, THE BEST WAY IS TO 

655
00:25:15,146 --> 00:25:16,948
TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO 

656
00:25:16,948 --> 00:25:17,749
CONSIDERATION THAT I JUST TALKED

657
00:25:17,749 --> 00:25:19,918
ABOUT. GEOGRAPHY, HISTORICAL 

658
00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:21,953
WORKLOAD, 911 RESPONSE, 

659
00:25:21,953 --> 00:25:23,622
PROACTIVE WORK, ALL THOSE 

660
00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:25,190
VARIABLES AND AND PUT THEM INTO 

661
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:28,527
A MODEL AND TO FIGURE OUT HOW 

662
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,428
MANY STAFF YOU NEED TO, TO 

663
00:25:30,428 --> 00:25:34,399
ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS. SO WHAT 

664
00:25:34,399 --> 00:25:36,268
SPD DID TO TRY TO DO JUST THIS 

665
00:25:36,268 --> 00:25:38,470
THING WAS THEY TOOK THEIR PATROL

666
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:40,438
STAFF ONLY. SO THAT'S ONLY THE 

667
00:25:40,438 --> 00:25:42,574
500 OR SO FOLKS THAT ANSWERED 

668
00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:43,541
THE 911 CALLS AND ARE IN THE 

669
00:25:43,541 --> 00:25:45,410
PRECINCTS, AND THEY HIRED A 

670
00:25:45,410 --> 00:25:47,245
CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND LOOK 

671
00:25:47,245 --> 00:25:50,715
AT THAT WORK GROUP TO LOOK AT 

672
00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:51,383
ALL THE APPROPRIATE DATA. NINE, 

673
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,785
ONE, ONE DATA, WORKLOAD, ALL OF 

674
00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:55,720
THAT, AND FIGURE OUT HOW MANY 

675
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,056
OFFICERS ARE NEEDED TO REACH A 

676
00:25:58,056 --> 00:26:00,258
CERTAIN GOAL IN THIS PARTICULAR 

677
00:26:00,258 --> 00:26:03,428
GOAL, THE GOAL OF THE CONSULTANT

678
00:26:03,428 --> 00:26:05,997
WAS TO ENSURE THAT OFFICERS ONLY

679
00:26:05,997 --> 00:26:07,899
SPENT 60% OF THEIR TIME 

680
00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:08,833
ANSWERING CALLS FOR SERVICE. 

681
00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:12,938
THIS IS CALLED THE RULE OF 60 IN

682
00:26:12,938 --> 00:26:15,173
POLICING, AND IT IS KNOWN THAT 

683
00:26:15,173 --> 00:26:16,374
IF AN OFFICER, THROUGH RESEARCH 

684
00:26:16,374 --> 00:26:19,778
THAT IF AN OFFICER SPENDS MORE 

685
00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:22,447
THAN 60% OF THEIR TIME ANSWERING

686
00:26:22,447 --> 00:26:24,916
911 CALLS, THEY BECOME 

687
00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:26,184
COMPLETELY REACTIVE. THEY WILL 

688
00:26:26,184 --> 00:26:27,786
SIT IN THE CAR AND WAIT FOR MORE

689
00:26:27,786 --> 00:26:30,088
CALLS AND PROACTIVE POLICING 

690
00:26:30,088 --> 00:26:32,624
PRETTY MUCH STOPS. BUT IF THEY 

691
00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:34,893
ARE UNDER THAT 60% THRESHOLD, 

692
00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:35,927
THEN THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET

693
00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:39,197
OUT OF THE CAR AND DO SOME 

694
00:26:39,197 --> 00:26:39,698
PROACTIVE POLICING WITH 

695
00:26:39,698 --> 00:26:41,333
COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S THE 

696
00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:43,835
PARTICULAR GOAL THAT THIS STUDY 

697
00:26:43,835 --> 00:26:46,605
WAS TRYING TO ACHIEVE BY LOOKING

698
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:49,708
AT THE DATA AND FIGURING OUT 

699
00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:51,843
WHAT SPD WOULD NEED TO BE AT 

700
00:26:51,843 --> 00:26:54,112
THAT 60% THRESHOLD, AND WHAT 

701
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:55,647
THEY FOUND WAS THAT YOU WOULD 

702
00:26:55,647 --> 00:27:01,519
NEED TO INCREASE SPD'S PATROL BY

703
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:06,257
ABOUT 153 OFFICERS, AND ANOTHER 

704
00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:09,461
ANOTHER 16 SERGEANTS, FOR A 

705
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:13,398
TOTAL OF 169 OFFICERS. SO IF YOU

706
00:27:13,398 --> 00:27:15,333
ADDED 169 OFFICERS TO THE PATROL

707
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:16,634
FORCE, YOU WOULD HAVE A FORCE 

708
00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:21,006
THAT IS A SIZE OF ABOUT 662 

709
00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:24,209
OFFICERS. I LOOKED BACK IN THE 

710
00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:25,410
HISTORY OF STAFFING WITH SPD, 

711
00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:28,513
AND WHAT I FOUND WAS YOU CAN 

712
00:27:28,513 --> 00:27:30,715
IT'S DISPLAYED IN THE TABLE 

713
00:27:30,715 --> 00:27:32,217
RIGHT BELOW THAT. SPD WAS AT 

714
00:27:32,217 --> 00:27:34,352
THAT STAFFING LEVEL IN 20 IN 

715
00:27:34,352 --> 00:27:35,987
2019. YOU SEE THAT HERE IN THE 

716
00:27:35,987 --> 00:27:38,456
TABLE. IT'S AT 2020. THAT'S THE

717
00:27:38,456 --> 00:27:39,524
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO

718
00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:42,193
BE THE PEAK OF SPD STAFFING, AT 

719
00:27:42,193 --> 00:27:44,129
LEAST IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. 

720
00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:47,098
THERE WERE THE 668 FOLKS 

721
00:27:47,098 --> 00:27:49,434
ASSIGNED TO 911 RESPONSE, AND A 

722
00:27:49,434 --> 00:27:54,873
TOTAL OF 694. NOW, AUGUST OF 

723
00:27:54,873 --> 00:28:00,178
2026, THERE'S 485 PATROL AND A 

724
00:28:00,178 --> 00:28:02,247
TOTAL OF 498 ASSIGNED TO ALL 

725
00:28:02,247 --> 00:28:05,450
FUNCTIONS AT THE PRECINCTS. SO 

726
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:07,218
ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THE 

727
00:28:07,218 --> 00:28:10,288
RESULTS OF THE STUDY. IF SPD GOT

728
00:28:10,288 --> 00:28:13,758
BACK TO ITS PRIOR STAFFING RATES

729
00:28:13,758 --> 00:28:16,361
BEFORE THE 350 FOLKS LEFT AFTER 

730
00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:18,163
THE PANDEMIC, THEN YOU WOULD BE 

731
00:28:18,163 --> 00:28:21,433
AT A 60% WORKLOAD THRESHOLD, 

732
00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:24,936
WHICH ACHIEVES THE GOAL OF THIS 

733
00:28:24,936 --> 00:28:27,272
STUDY. BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT 

734
00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:29,741
ABOUT THAT STUDY IS THAT IT HAD 

735
00:28:29,741 --> 00:28:31,509
SOME LIMITATIONS. IT WAS 

736
00:28:31,509 --> 00:28:34,846
ASSUMING A SAME STATE. IT WAS 

737
00:28:34,846 --> 00:28:36,781
ASSUMING THAT THAT 911 CALL 

738
00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:39,117
METRICS AND OTHER POLICE METRICS

739
00:28:39,117 --> 00:28:44,823
WERE ROUGHLY HELD CONSTANT. IF 

740
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:47,125
THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO IMPROVE 

741
00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:48,293
ITS RESPONSE TIME, THEN IT NEEDS

742
00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:49,527
TO USE A DIFFERENT MODEL. IT 

743
00:28:49,527 --> 00:28:51,730
NEEDS TO USE A MODEL THAT CAN A 

744
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:53,431
STATISTICAL MODEL THAT WHERE 

745
00:28:53,431 --> 00:28:55,200
THEY CAN PLUG IN A DESIRED 

746
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,201
RESPONSE TIME. AND I'M GOING TO

747
00:28:56,201 --> 00:28:57,702
SAY LIKE SIX MINUTES AS A 

748
00:28:57,702 --> 00:28:59,270
DESIRED RESPONSE TIME OR FIVE 

749
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:00,772
MINUTES AS A DESIRED RESPONSE 

750
00:29:00,772 --> 00:29:02,173
TIME, AND THEN THE MODEL WILL 

751
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:05,043
COME BACK AND TELL SPD THIS, HOW

752
00:29:05,043 --> 00:29:05,910
MANY OFFICERS YOU NEED TO GET TO

753
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:08,079
THIS PARTICULAR METRIC, AND THEY

754
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:09,414
ARE RUNNING THAT STUDY RIGHT 

755
00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,416
NOW. THEY HAVE TAKEN THIS 

756
00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:13,251
CONSULTANT STUDY, AND THEY'RE 

757
00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:14,552
BUILDING ON IT WITH THEIR OWN 

758
00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:19,023
STUDY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT 

759
00:29:19,023 --> 00:29:20,191
WHAT THE IDEAL 911 RESPONSE TIME

760
00:29:20,191 --> 00:29:21,459
WOULD BE, AND HOW MANY OFFICERS 

761
00:29:21,459 --> 00:29:23,628
THEY WOULD NEED TO MEET. IT. THE

762
00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:25,196
OTHER THING THAT THEY'RE DOING 

763
00:29:25,196 --> 00:29:28,466
THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION 

764
00:29:28,466 --> 00:29:33,471
RIGHT NOW WITH THIS WORK, IS TO 

765
00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:35,373
FIGURE OUT HOW ALTERNATIVE 

766
00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:38,176
POLICING WILL PLAY INTO THE 

767
00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:41,012
EQUATION, GIVEN THAT MANY OF THE

768
00:29:41,012 --> 00:29:42,780
PRIORITY TWO RESPONSE CALLS 

769
00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:43,414
COULD POTENTIALLY BE ANSWERED IF

770
00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:45,984
THEY ARE NONVIOLENT AND 

771
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:48,386
NON-CRIMINAL BY OUR CARE 

772
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:50,755
DEPARTMENT. IF IT IS FOLKS THAT 

773
00:29:50,755 --> 00:29:52,490
NEED BEHAVIORAL OR MENTAL HEALTH

774
00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:54,025
SERVICES, THAT'S ANOTHER THING 

775
00:29:54,025 --> 00:29:55,960
TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU'RE

776
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,028
FIGURING OUT HOW MANY OFFICERS 

777
00:29:57,028 --> 00:30:00,064
YOU NEED. SO SPD IS IS CURRENTLY

778
00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:00,999
LOOKING AT THIS, TRYING TO 

779
00:30:00,999 --> 00:30:03,368
FIGURE OUT HOW MANY OFFICERS 

780
00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:05,170
THEY WOULD RECOMMEND, AND THEY 

781
00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:06,638
EXPECT TO FINISH THIS STUDY BY 

782
00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:11,743
THE END OF THE YEAR. SO THE NEXT

783
00:30:11,743 --> 00:30:13,945
THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN 

784
00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:15,380
TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT NUMBER 

785
00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:17,649
OF POLICE OFFICERS FOR SEATTLE, 

786
00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:21,286
IS, IS, IS THE SECOND PART OF 

787
00:30:21,286 --> 00:30:22,554
THE RULE OF 60. I TALKED ABOUT 

788
00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:25,990
THE FIRST PART THAT OFFICERS 

789
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:29,627
NEED TO SPEND LESS THAN 60% OF 

790
00:30:29,627 --> 00:30:30,995
THEIR OR THEY, THEY, THEY CAN'T

791
00:30:30,995 --> 00:30:32,297
SPEND MORE THAN 60% OF THEIR 

792
00:30:32,297 --> 00:30:34,165
TIME ANSWERING 911 CALLS. THE 

793
00:30:34,165 --> 00:30:37,402
SECOND PART OF THAT EQUATION IS 

794
00:30:37,402 --> 00:30:40,738
THAT THE ENTIRE SWORN FORCE 

795
00:30:40,738 --> 00:30:46,544
SHOULD HAVE 60% OF THE OFFICERS 

796
00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:47,045
DOING PATROL FUNCTIONS, 

797
00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:50,181
RESPONDING TO 911 CALLS, OR 

798
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:51,883
DOING PROACTIVE WORK OUT IN THE 

799
00:30:51,883 --> 00:30:54,018
COMMUNITY. AND SO IF THAT IS A 

800
00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:59,490
GOAL THAT SPD SEEKS, THEY ARE 

801
00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:01,759
HISTORICALLY BEHIND ON THAT ONE.

802
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,529
THEY TYPICALLY HAVE FEWER THAN 

803
00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:07,865
50% OF THEIR OFFICERS ASSIGNED 

804
00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:10,635
TO A PRECINCT. NOW, SEATTLE HAS 

805
00:31:10,635 --> 00:31:12,737
SOME CAVEATS HERE, HAS SOME 

806
00:31:12,737 --> 00:31:16,107
PARTICULAR NEEDS. SEATTLE HAS A 

807
00:31:16,107 --> 00:31:17,308
HARBOR PATROL. MANY CITIES 

808
00:31:17,308 --> 00:31:19,877
DON'T HAVE A HARBOR PATROL. THE

809
00:31:19,877 --> 00:31:21,846
VARIOUS NEEDS OF SEATTLE MAY 

810
00:31:21,846 --> 00:31:24,983
DICTATE THAT WE HAVE FEWER THAN 

811
00:31:24,983 --> 00:31:27,385
60% OF OUR OFFICERS ON PATROL 

812
00:31:27,385 --> 00:31:29,687
FORCE, BUT IF WE'RE FOLLOWING 

813
00:31:29,687 --> 00:31:31,890
THE. THE NATIONAL GUIDELINES, 

814
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:35,159
YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE CLOSE TO 

815
00:31:35,159 --> 00:31:37,395
60%. THIS PARTICULAR TABLE HERE 

816
00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:38,062
SHOWS HOW OFFICERS ARE 

817
00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:40,465
DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE 

818
00:31:40,465 --> 00:31:41,866
DEPARTMENT. AND IN THE APPENDIX,

819
00:31:41,866 --> 00:31:43,568
THERE'S ACTUALLY A HISTORICAL 

820
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:45,003
TABLE THAT SHOWS HOW THEY HAVE 

821
00:31:45,003 --> 00:31:46,104
BEEN DISTRIBUTED OVER THE LAST 

822
00:31:46,104 --> 00:31:47,138
MANY YEARS. SO YOU CAN GO BACK 

823
00:31:47,138 --> 00:31:52,010
AND YOU CAN LOOK WHAT I WOULD 

824
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,444
POINT OUT HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE 

825
00:31:53,444 --> 00:31:57,949
ABOUT 43% OF THE FORCE RIGHT NOW

826
00:31:57,949 --> 00:32:00,385
ON 911 RESPONSE IN THE 

827
00:32:00,385 --> 00:32:03,521
PRECINCTS. THAT NUMBER WILL GO 

828
00:32:03,521 --> 00:32:06,291
TO 50. IF ALL OF THE STUDENT 

829
00:32:06,291 --> 00:32:09,394
OFFICERS, THERE'S ABOUT 150 OF 

830
00:32:09,394 --> 00:32:11,729
THEM. THEY'RE THOSE OFFICERS 

831
00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:14,599
ARE ARE IN IN OPERATION SUPPORT.

832
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,834
AND IF THOSE STUDENT OFFICERS 

833
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:17,969
GRADUATE AND THEY GET PUT IN THE

834
00:32:17,969 --> 00:32:20,138
PATROL FORCE AND SPD DOESN'T 

835
00:32:20,138 --> 00:32:21,940
MOVE ANYBODY OUT OF THE PATROL 

836
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:24,242
FORCE, THEY JUST LET IT BUILD, 

837
00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:25,576
THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSER 

838
00:32:25,576 --> 00:32:27,078
TO THE 60%. WE'RE GOING TO BE 

839
00:32:27,078 --> 00:32:31,282
MORE 50 TO 57% AND CLOSER TO 

840
00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:32,417
THAT GUIDELINE. THE REASON I 

841
00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:35,153
BRING IT UP IS THAT IT'S 

842
00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:37,922
IMPORTANT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT 

843
00:32:37,922 --> 00:32:39,324
THAT OFFICERS AREN'T MOVED OUT 

844
00:32:39,324 --> 00:32:39,924
OF PATROL AS THE NEW OFFICERS 

845
00:32:39,924 --> 00:32:44,095
ARE MOVED IN. AND SO THAT'S 

846
00:32:44,095 --> 00:32:46,364
GOING TO GET TO A COUPLE OPTIONS

847
00:32:46,364 --> 00:32:51,169
FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. THE 

848
00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:52,503
FIRST IS OPTION A, AND THAT IS A

849
00:32:52,503 --> 00:32:54,706
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT 

850
00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:56,307
THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE SPD TO DO 

851
00:32:56,307 --> 00:32:59,844
PRETTY MUCH JUST WHAT I SAID. 

852
00:32:59,844 --> 00:33:03,114
USE THE NEW OFFICERS TO ENHANCE 

853
00:33:03,114 --> 00:33:05,116
OR SUPPLEMENT PATROL ONLY FOR 

854
00:33:05,116 --> 00:33:07,285
THE PURPOSE OF REDUCING 911 

855
00:33:07,285 --> 00:33:09,754
RESPONSE TIMES AND INCREASING 

856
00:33:09,754 --> 00:33:10,955
CAPACITY TO ANSWER 911 CALLS. 

857
00:33:10,955 --> 00:33:13,758
THE OTHER THING THAT THE SLIDE 

858
00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:17,795
COULD REQUEST IS THAT THE. THE 

859
00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:19,597
DEPARTMENT FOCUS ON ADDING MORE 

860
00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:22,100
BIKE AND PROACTIVE UNITS TO WORK

861
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,668
CRIME HOTSPOTS SUCH AS THIRD AND

862
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,671
PIKE PINE, DOWNTOWN 12th AND 

863
00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:27,605
JACKSON. IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE.

864
00:33:27,605 --> 00:33:29,607
THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE 

865
00:33:29,607 --> 00:33:31,843
COUNCIL. THE CHARTER PROVIDES 

866
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,144
THE POLICE CHIEF WITH SPECIFIC 

867
00:33:33,144 --> 00:33:35,747
POWERS, AND IT IS NOT THE 

868
00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:37,482
COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE OR

869
00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:40,251
IN ANY WAY DICTATE, BUT THE 

870
00:33:40,251 --> 00:33:41,786
COUNCIL COULD SAY IT IS. OUR 

871
00:33:41,786 --> 00:33:43,888
INTENT IS. IT IS. WE ARE MAKING 

872
00:33:43,888 --> 00:33:45,356
A STATEMENT THAT WE WANT YOU TO 

873
00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:47,258
KEEP THESE OFFICERS THAT ARE 

874
00:33:47,258 --> 00:33:49,527
COMING OUT OF OUT OF TRAINING, 

875
00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:51,863
INTO PATROL, AND DON'T DON'T 

876
00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:54,399
MOVE OTHER OFFICERS OUT. THE 

877
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:57,068
SECOND THING THAT THAT IS AN 

878
00:33:57,068 --> 00:33:58,736
OPTION HERE IS A STATEMENT OF 

879
00:33:58,736 --> 00:34:00,638
LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT WOULD 

880
00:34:00,638 --> 00:34:01,205
REQUEST AN ANALYSIS OF THE 

881
00:34:01,205 --> 00:34:03,775
DEPLOYMENT OF OFFICERS OUTSIDE 

882
00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,110
OF PATROL FUNCTIONS. SO AS WE'VE

883
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:09,480
BEEN, AS I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING,

884
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,983
SPD HAS TAKEN SOME TIME TO GET A

885
00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:13,684
CONSULTANT STUDY DONE ON PATROL 

886
00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:15,119
STAFFING, AND NOW THEY'RE DOING

887
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,289
THEIR OWN WORK. AND THAT'S ALL 

888
00:34:18,289 --> 00:34:20,124
ON PATROL. AND THAT'LL THAT'LL

889
00:34:20,124 --> 00:34:22,126
BE VERY HELPFUL WHEN THEY 

890
00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:23,127
IDEALLY IDENTIFY THE TARGET 

891
00:34:23,127 --> 00:34:23,728
RESPONSE TIMES AND THE OTHER 

892
00:34:23,728 --> 00:34:25,730
METRICS THEY WANT TO MEET. BUT 

893
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:26,297
WHAT THEY'RE NOT DOING IS 

894
00:34:26,297 --> 00:34:29,534
LOOKING AT THE REST OF THE 

895
00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:31,235
OFFICERS THAT ARE IN 

896
00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,838
INVESTIGATIVE UNITS OR SPECIALTY

897
00:34:33,838 --> 00:34:34,505
UNITS, AND DETERMINING WHETHER 

898
00:34:34,505 --> 00:34:36,541
OR NOT WE HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS 

899
00:34:36,541 --> 00:34:38,409
IN THOSE UNITS. AND SO ONE 

900
00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,678
POTENTIAL OPTION FOR THE COUNCIL

901
00:34:40,678 --> 00:34:42,814
IS TO HAVE A SLIDE THAT THAT 

902
00:34:42,814 --> 00:34:46,350
REQUIRES THEM TO LOOK AT THAT 

903
00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:50,755
AND REPORT BACK. SO MOVING 

904
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:52,924
ALONG, POLICY ISSUE, POLICY 

905
00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:55,359
CONSIDERATION NUMBER THREE IS 

906
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,295
REDUCTIONS THAT ARE MADE TO THE 

907
00:34:57,295 --> 00:35:00,064
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION 

908
00:35:00,064 --> 00:35:01,999
BUDGET. AS THIS SLIDE SAYS, 

909
00:35:01,999 --> 00:35:05,403
THERE IS 2.4 MILLION AND 3.5 

910
00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:07,138
MILLION CUT FROM SPD'S BUDGET. 

911
00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:08,506
THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. 

912
00:35:08,506 --> 00:35:12,376
THE FIRST THING IT DOES IS IT 

913
00:35:12,376 --> 00:35:15,179
ELIMINATES THE HIRING BONUSES, 

914
00:35:15,179 --> 00:35:18,049
WHICH WERE 7500 FOR RECRUITS, 

915
00:35:18,049 --> 00:35:21,652
50,000 FOR LATERALS. AND IT'S 

916
00:35:21,652 --> 00:35:23,154
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 

917
00:35:23,154 --> 00:35:24,322
THAT THAT PROGRAM HAS ALREADY 

918
00:35:24,322 --> 00:35:25,957
BEEN DISCONTINUED. IT WAS 

919
00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:27,825
DISCONTINUED BY THE CHIEF IN 

920
00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:30,962
JULY. AND IT IS THE CASE THAT 

921
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:33,264
THE CITY IS NO LONGER OFFERING 

922
00:35:33,264 --> 00:35:34,565
THOSE INCENTIVES. THERE'S ALSO 

923
00:35:34,565 --> 00:35:36,033
ABOUT A $2 MILLION CUT IN THERE 

924
00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:38,669
FOR THE MEDIA AND MARKETING 

925
00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:42,373
CAMPAIGN. IT IS THE IT IS THE 

926
00:35:42,373 --> 00:35:45,643
DETERMINATION OF THE EXECUTIVE 

927
00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:48,346
THAT THESE THINGS ARE NO LONGER 

928
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:50,081
NEEDED TO ATTRACT OFFICERS TO 

929
00:35:50,081 --> 00:35:52,550
THE CITY OF SEATTLE BECAUSE IT 

930
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:55,186
IS THE CASE THAT THE NEWEST 

931
00:35:55,186 --> 00:35:57,588
CONTRACTS THAT MADE SEATTLE 

932
00:35:57,588 --> 00:35:58,122
POLICE DEPARTMENT PAY THE 

933
00:35:58,122 --> 00:36:01,425
HIGHEST IN THE STATE AND UPPER 

934
00:36:01,425 --> 00:36:03,794
RANKING IN THE WEST COAST SEVEN 

935
00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:04,629
THAT. THAT WILL BE ENOUGH TO 

936
00:36:04,629 --> 00:36:07,331
ATTRACT OFFICERS. IT'S DIFFICULT

937
00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:10,635
TO KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME 

938
00:36:10,635 --> 00:36:11,636
WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GOING TO

939
00:36:11,636 --> 00:36:13,304
BE A BIG CHANGE. IT'S JUST BEEN

940
00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:15,540
A MONTH OR TWO, SO THE DATA ARE 

941
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:19,877
NOT REALLY PICKING UP A CHANGE 

942
00:36:19,877 --> 00:36:22,980
YET. BUT WHAT WE CAN SEE IS HOW 

943
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:26,250
SURVEYS OF OFFICERS HAVE 

944
00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:29,020
HIGHLIGHTED THE IMPORTANCE OF 

945
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:32,256
THE HIRING INCENTIVE, OR THE 

946
00:36:32,256 --> 00:36:35,893
ADVERTISING AND SURVEYS OF 

947
00:36:35,893 --> 00:36:38,496
OFFICERS HAVE SHOWN THAT FEWER 

948
00:36:38,496 --> 00:36:41,832
THAN 15% OF THEM LEARNED ABOUT 

949
00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:43,134
OPPORTUNITIES AT SPD OR THE 

950
00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:46,270
HIRING INCENTIVE FROM 

951
00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:46,837
TRADITIONAL MEDIA OR SOCIAL 

952
00:36:46,837 --> 00:36:49,040
MEDIA. THE LARGE MAJORITY OF 

953
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,243
OFFICERS READ OR HEAR ABOUT THE 

954
00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:54,045
OPPORTUNITIES AT SPD. ACTUALLY 

955
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:59,183
ON SPD'S WEBSITE AND AND THROUGH

956
00:36:59,183 --> 00:37:03,387
OTHER MEANS, THE THE DATA AROUND

957
00:37:03,387 --> 00:37:05,923
OFFICERS ON BONUSES IS A LITTLE 

958
00:37:05,923 --> 00:37:10,261
BIT HIGHER. THERE. YOU HAVE 

959
00:37:10,261 --> 00:37:12,363
ABOUT 60 TO 64% OF ENTRY LEVEL 

960
00:37:12,363 --> 00:37:16,400
OFFICERS SAYING THAT THE BONUS 

961
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,270
WAS SOMETHING THAT FACTORED INTO

962
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:21,138
THEIR DECISION IN FEBRUARY OF 

963
00:37:21,138 --> 00:37:22,907
24, THE SEATTLE OFFICE OF 

964
00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:23,474
INNOVATION AND PERFORMANCE 

965
00:37:23,474 --> 00:37:26,143
PUBLISHED A FORMAL EVALUATION OF

966
00:37:26,143 --> 00:37:27,945
THE HIRING BONUSES. AND WHAT 

967
00:37:27,945 --> 00:37:31,282
THEY FOUND WAS THAT IT WAS 

968
00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:32,683
SIMILAR TO WHAT I JUST SAID WITH

969
00:37:32,683 --> 00:37:34,652
THE SURVEY. THEY FOUND THAT IT 

970
00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:37,021
WAS A FACTOR, BUT THAT ON 

971
00:37:37,021 --> 00:37:39,190
AVERAGE, INCENTIVE PAY RANKED 

972
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:40,858
BELOW SALARY AND BENEFITS. SO 

973
00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:42,393
THAT THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT 

974
00:37:42,393 --> 00:37:43,961
WITH WITH WHAT THE EXECUTIVE HAS

975
00:37:43,961 --> 00:37:48,332
BEEN SAYING SO THE PARTICULAR 

976
00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:51,435
OPTIONS IN THIS POLICY AREA ARE 

977
00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:53,771
RESTORE THE MEDIA AND MARKETING 

978
00:37:53,771 --> 00:37:55,740
FUNDING FOR $2 MILLION IN 2027 

979
00:37:55,740 --> 00:38:00,311
AND $2 MILLION IN 2028. SHOULD 

980
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:03,014
THIS NOT BE TAKEN THERE IS STILL

981
00:38:03,014 --> 00:38:06,017
A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF $82,000 

982
00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:07,518
AVAILABLE TO THE DEPARTMENT TO 

983
00:38:07,518 --> 00:38:09,286
DO SOME ADVERTISING WITH. 

984
00:38:09,286 --> 00:38:11,589
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOTHING BY 

985
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:13,724
COMPARISON OF SCALE, AND THEY 

986
00:38:13,724 --> 00:38:15,893
WILL CONTINUE TO DO SOCIAL MEDIA

987
00:38:15,893 --> 00:38:17,995
POSTS, POSTS ON THE WEB PAGE. SO

988
00:38:17,995 --> 00:38:19,430
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP 

989
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:21,499
EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER. BUT 

990
00:38:21,499 --> 00:38:24,101
OBVIOUSLY THE $2 MILLION IN 27 

991
00:38:24,101 --> 00:38:26,470
AND 28 WILL GREATLY IMPACT THEIR

992
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,640
ABILITY TO USE OUTSIDE 

993
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,242
ADVERTISING FIRMS. OPTION B IS 

994
00:38:31,242 --> 00:38:34,378
TO RESTORE THE HIRING INCENTIVE 

995
00:38:34,378 --> 00:38:37,181
FOR LATERALS AND RECRUITS 

996
00:38:37,181 --> 00:38:40,918
THROUGH 2028. THAT OPTION WOULD 

997
00:38:40,918 --> 00:38:44,021
COST 955,000 IN 2027, AND $2 

998
00:38:44,021 --> 00:38:50,094
MILLION IN 2028. IT IS THE CASE 

999
00:38:50,094 --> 00:38:54,298
THAT IT IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE

1000
00:38:54,298 --> 00:38:54,765
TO RESTORE THE HIRING 

1001
00:38:54,765 --> 00:38:56,300
INCENTIVES, HIRING INCENTIVES 

1002
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:58,135
FOR LATERALS AND RECRUITS IF THE

1003
00:38:58,135 --> 00:39:00,938
COUNCIL CHOSE TO CONTINUE TO 

1004
00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:05,743
EXPAND THE FORCE WITH EITHER 

1005
00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:06,977
OPTION B OR C THAT I TALKED 

1006
00:39:06,977 --> 00:39:09,547
ABOUT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT 

1007
00:39:09,547 --> 00:39:13,384
STAFFING, IT IS. IT IS THE CASE 

1008
00:39:13,384 --> 00:39:14,885
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY HIRING

1009
00:39:14,885 --> 00:39:16,787
BONUSES TO PEOPLE THAT ARE 

1010
00:39:16,787 --> 00:39:17,421
PLANNING TO COME TO THE SEATTLE 

1011
00:39:17,421 --> 00:39:19,190
POLICE DEPARTMENT FORCE ANYWAY. 

1012
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:20,691
IT'S THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE 

1013
00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:23,360
TRYING TO ADD INCREMENTALLY. SO 

1014
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,996
IT IT THIS SHOULD THEORETICALLY 

1015
00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:27,164
WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR 

1016
00:39:27,164 --> 00:39:28,766
OPTIONS FOR STAFFING THAT I 

1017
00:39:28,766 --> 00:39:31,302
MENTIONED. THE SECOND PAYMENT OF

1018
00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:33,270
THE HIRING BONUS, THE HIRING 

1019
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:35,039
BONUS IS BROKEN INTO. TWO 

1020
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,040
PAYMENTS OFFICERS GET ONE 

1021
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,475
PAYMENT WHEN THEY SIGN AND THEY 

1022
00:39:37,475 --> 00:39:39,310
GET ANOTHER PAYMENT ABOUT A YEAR

1023
00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:40,711
LATER. THE SECOND PAYMENT OF 

1024
00:39:40,711 --> 00:39:42,246
THAT HIRING BONUS WILL CREATE 

1025
00:39:42,246 --> 00:39:42,913
ONGOING COSTS OR NOT ONGOING 

1026
00:39:42,913 --> 00:39:45,282
COSTS. A ONE TIME COST OF 1.4 

1027
00:39:45,282 --> 00:39:49,387
MILLION IN THE 2029 2030 

1028
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,423
BIENNIUM, AND OPTION C IS 

1029
00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:54,592
RESTORING THE INCENTIVE FOR 

1030
00:39:54,592 --> 00:39:57,995
LATERALS ONLY. SO THIS IS JUST 

1031
00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:00,598
THE $50,000 THIS ONE WOULD PAY 

1032
00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:03,334
FOR LATERALS COMING IN IN THE 

1033
00:40:03,334 --> 00:40:04,702
NEXT TWO YEARS, WITH THE HOPE 

1034
00:40:04,702 --> 00:40:09,306
THAT YOU WOULD INCREASE BEYOND 

1035
00:40:09,306 --> 00:40:12,243
THE CURRENT STAFFING PLAN. BACK 

1036
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:13,477
TO THAT CURRENT LEVEL OF HIRING,

1037
00:40:13,477 --> 00:40:16,847
WHICH IS TWO PER MONTH. AND IF 

1038
00:40:16,847 --> 00:40:20,184
THE COUNCIL WERE TO DO THAT, IT 

1039
00:40:20,184 --> 00:40:22,686
WOULD COST 550,000 IN 2027 AND 

1040
00:40:22,686 --> 00:40:24,822
1.1 MILLION IN 2028. THE TOTAL 

1041
00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:28,492
COST OF THAT, AGAIN, IS ABOUT 

1042
00:40:28,492 --> 00:40:31,896
1.4 MILLION IN 2029. 

1043
00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:34,498
-- AND THEN GREG, SORRY, I WAS 

1044
00:40:34,498 --> 00:40:36,667
WAITING FOR YOU TO SAY D NO 

1045
00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:36,901
CHANGE. 

1046
00:40:36,901 --> 00:40:38,269
-- THANK YOU'D. NO CHANGE. 

1047
00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:40,538
-- NO CHANGE IS THERE. AND I'M 

1048
00:40:40,538 --> 00:40:42,106
JUST I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A 

1049
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:44,542
QUICK PAUSE. IT'S TEN, 12 A.M. 

1050
00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:47,311
SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE NEW 

1051
00:40:47,311 --> 00:40:47,945
PARTICIPANTS IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS

1052
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,847
TODAY. AT 1015, WE ARE GOING TO 

1053
00:40:49,847 --> 00:40:50,681
HAVE AN EARTHQUAKE DRILL. YES, 

1054
00:40:50,681 --> 00:40:52,183
WE DID HAVE AN EARTHQUAKE IN 

1055
00:40:52,183 --> 00:40:54,318
CHAMBERS TWO WEEKS AGO. AND NO, 

1056
00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:55,553
WE DID NOT DO IT CORRECTLY. SO 

1057
00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:56,987
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT 

1058
00:40:56,987 --> 00:41:01,425
SERIOUSLY TODAY AND FOR THE NEWS

1059
00:41:01,425 --> 00:41:02,927
CAMERAS THAT HAVE COME IN THE 

1060
00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:03,961
MOST DANGEROUS PLACES IN THIS 

1061
00:41:03,961 --> 00:41:07,097
ROOM ARE GOING TO BE NEAR GLASS.

1062
00:41:07,097 --> 00:41:08,933
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE 

1063
00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:09,967
DIDN'T CONSIDER LAST WEEK WHEN 

1064
00:41:09,967 --> 00:41:13,070
WE HAD A REAL EARTHQUAKE. I HAVE

1065
00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:13,971
A PARTICULAR WE'RE JUST GOING 

1066
00:41:13,971 --> 00:41:15,906
TO KIND OF TALK FOR A SECOND. I 

1067
00:41:15,906 --> 00:41:17,308
HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN 

1068
00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:18,309
HAVING MORE LIGHT IN THIS ROOM, 

1069
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:19,710
WHICH IS WHY I ALWAYS ASK FOR 

1070
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:21,812
THE BACK DOORS TO BE OPEN. AND 

1071
00:41:21,812 --> 00:41:23,247
IF THERE WAS AN EARTHQUAKE, THE 

1072
00:41:23,247 --> 00:41:26,317
SAFEST PLACE IN THIS ROOM IS 

1073
00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:28,152
GOING TO BE RIGHT UNDERNEATH 

1074
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:29,920
THOSE LEDGES. AND TO CLOSE THOSE

1075
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,356
DOORS, BECAUSE THE HAZARDS IN 

1076
00:41:32,356 --> 00:41:34,525
THIS ROOM ARE GOING TO BE THE 

1077
00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:36,093
CAN LIGHTS THAT ARE HUNG TO THE 

1078
00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:38,796
CEILINGS, THE GLASS, THE SPEAKER

1079
00:41:38,796 --> 00:41:41,866
THAT IS HANGING RIGHT ABOVE OUR 

1080
00:41:41,866 --> 00:41:43,000
DESKS, THESE FLAGS AND ANYTHING 

1081
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,470
THAT CAN FALL OR BREAK. SO JUST 

1082
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:48,272
AS WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THIS,

1083
00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:50,140
I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THIS 

1084
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:52,309
CONVERSATION AS IN DEPTH IN PAST

1085
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:54,245
YEARS, BUT WE DID FAIL AT OUR 

1086
00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:56,046
RESPONSE TO EARTHQUAKE TWO WEEKS

1087
00:41:56,046 --> 00:41:57,548
AGO. SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF

1088
00:41:57,548 --> 00:41:59,817
TALKING IT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT 

1089
00:41:59,817 --> 00:42:01,318
MORE. WE WILL HEAR AN 

1090
00:42:01,318 --> 00:42:02,286
ANNOUNCEMENT. WE'LL ALL GO 

1091
00:42:02,286 --> 00:42:03,554
UNDER OUR DESKS. OR IF YOU'RE IN

1092
00:42:03,554 --> 00:42:05,189
THE PUBLIC, FIND A SAFE PLACE 

1093
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:14,765
AWAY FROM GLASS. AND I THINK 

1094
00:42:14,765 --> 00:42:15,432
THAT'S ABOUT IT. WE HAD COUNCIL

1095
00:42:15,432 --> 00:42:16,033
PRESIDENT, HOLLINGSWORTH AND 

1096
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:16,667
COUNCILMEMBER LIN JOIN US AT 

1097
00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:18,235
ABOUT SLIDE TWO, AND WE HAVE 

1098
00:42:18,235 --> 00:42:19,203
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA WITH US AS 

1099
00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:24,708
WELL. SO WE DO HAVE A FULL, FULL

1100
00:42:24,708 --> 00:42:26,310
COUNCIL WITH US WHEN THE 

1101
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:27,978
EARTHQUAKE DRILL GOES IN INTO 

1102
00:42:27,978 --> 00:42:29,446
PLACE, WE WE WILL BE AT EASE, 

1103
00:42:29,446 --> 00:42:32,850
WHICH MEANS THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE

1104
00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:34,118
AND IF YOU CAN JUST CUT THE 

1105
00:42:34,118 --> 00:42:36,020
MICROPHONE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT 

1106
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:38,055
CATCHING ALL THE DRILL NOISE 

1107
00:42:38,055 --> 00:42:39,490
COMING THROUGH THE SPEAKERS OF 

1108
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:45,362
OUR CITY HALL WITH THAT, GREG, 

1109
00:42:45,362 --> 00:42:48,832
YOU'RE MAKING GOOD TIME. WE'RE

1110
00:42:48,832 --> 00:42:51,602
ON SLIDE 14 OF 26 AND JUST ABOUT

1111
00:42:51,602 --> 00:42:54,104
TO GET INTO PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

1112
00:42:54,104 --> 00:42:58,175
OFFICERS AFTER THIS EARTHQUAKE 

1113
00:42:58,175 --> 00:42:59,243
DRILL. YES. NOW, THIS IS THE 

1114
00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:00,577
AWKWARD PAUSE. 

1115
00:43:00,577 --> 00:43:01,178
-- COUNCILMEMBER LIN JUST HOW 

1116
00:43:01,178 --> 00:43:02,413
LONG DOES IT TYPICALLY LAST? DO 

1117
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:04,515
YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I THINK. 

1118
00:43:04,515 --> 00:43:05,015
-- ABOUT THREE MINUTES. 

1119
00:43:05,015 --> 00:43:07,451
-- THREE MINUTES. 

1120
00:43:07,451 --> 00:43:07,718
-- OKAY. 

1121
00:43:07,718 --> 00:43:11,055
-- YEAH 

1122
00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:11,655
-- I THINK OUR CHAMBER CLOCKS 

1123
00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:12,756
ARE A LITTLE FAST BECAUSE LAST 

1124
00:43:12,756 --> 00:43:16,760
YEAR WHEN I SAID TEN, 15. 

1125
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,161
-- 15 SOMETHING. 

1126
00:43:17,161 --> 00:43:20,798
-- YEAH, IT BEEPS AT US. SO WE 

1127
00:43:20,798 --> 00:43:22,399
WILL BE AT EASE UNTIL THE 

1128
00:43:22,399 --> 00:43:25,135
EARTHQUAKE DRILL IS OVER. AND 

1129
00:43:25,135 --> 00:43:26,670
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 

1130
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:30,007
-- MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION. 

1131
00:43:30,007 --> 00:43:37,715
-- PLEASE? 

1132
00:43:37,948 --> 00:43:48,425
-- WELL. THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK 

1133
00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:26,890
OUT OF EASE. I WILL SAY WE DID 

1134
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:27,591
MUCH BETTER WITH THE DRILL THAN 

1135
00:45:27,591 --> 00:45:29,126
WE DID WITH THE ACTUAL 

1136
00:45:29,126 --> 00:45:30,360
EARTHQUAKE TWO WEEKS AGO. SO 

1137
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,662
WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO BRING 

1138
00:45:31,662 --> 00:45:36,567
US RIGHT BACK TO CENTRAL STAFF 

1139
00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:38,001
ANALYST GREG DOSS TO CONTINUE 

1140
00:45:38,001 --> 00:45:38,635
WALKING US THROUGH THE CENTRAL 

1141
00:45:38,635 --> 00:45:39,603
STAFF ANALYSIS OF THE SEATTLE 

1142
00:45:39,603 --> 00:45:41,105
POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. WE 

1143
00:45:41,105 --> 00:45:44,908
HAVE LEFT OFF ON PAGE 13. SORRY,

1144
00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:50,347
NOT 14, BUT 13. FOURTH POLICY 

1145
00:45:50,347 --> 00:45:50,814
CONSIDERATION PARKING 

1146
00:45:50,814 --> 00:45:51,448
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, BACK TO 

1147
00:45:51,448 --> 00:45:51,882
YOU, GREG. 

1148
00:45:51,882 --> 00:45:55,486
-- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MOVING 

1149
00:45:55,486 --> 00:45:56,053
ALONG, PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

1150
00:45:56,053 --> 00:45:57,554
OFFICERS, AS THIS COMMITTEE HAS 

1151
00:45:57,554 --> 00:46:00,924
DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, SPD HAS 

1152
00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:03,327
ABOUT 18 LONG TERM VACANCIES IN 

1153
00:46:03,327 --> 00:46:04,728
THIS GROUP. THE PROPOSED BUDGET 

1154
00:46:04,728 --> 00:46:06,463
CUTS. ABOUT HALF OF THESE 

1155
00:46:06,463 --> 00:46:08,165
VACANCIES, THE POSITIONS AND THE

1156
00:46:08,165 --> 00:46:10,868
DOLLARS, AND IT LEAVES REMAINING

1157
00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:12,703
THE OTHER HALF, WHICH SPD SAYS 

1158
00:46:12,703 --> 00:46:15,072
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO FILL. 

1159
00:46:15,072 --> 00:46:16,440
THEY EXPECT TO FILL THESE BY THE

1160
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,009
FIRST QUARTER, ALTHOUGH SLIGHT 

1161
00:46:19,009 --> 00:46:20,377
DISCLAIMER THEY HAVE SAID THAT 

1162
00:46:20,377 --> 00:46:22,746
IN PRIOR YEARS AND IT HAS NOT 

1163
00:46:22,746 --> 00:46:23,647
HAPPENED, THEY'VE HAD SOME 

1164
00:46:23,647 --> 00:46:25,249
TROUBLE HIRING FOR THESE 

1165
00:46:25,249 --> 00:46:27,784
POSITIONS. AND THEY TALKED A BIT

1166
00:46:27,784 --> 00:46:30,087
ABOUT IT DURING THE EXECUTIVE 

1167
00:46:30,087 --> 00:46:33,290
PRESENTATION. THEY ARE HOPING 

1168
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:34,758
THAT A RECENT CONTRACT 

1169
00:46:34,758 --> 00:46:36,894
SETTLEMENT WITH THE GUILD THAT 

1170
00:46:36,894 --> 00:46:37,528
REPRESENTS PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

1171
00:46:37,528 --> 00:46:38,996
OFFICERS AND A PAY INCREASE 

1172
00:46:38,996 --> 00:46:40,831
THERE WILL HELP WITH THIS HIRING

1173
00:46:40,831 --> 00:46:43,300
ISSUE. DIRECTOR PETER ALSO 

1174
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,136
TALKED ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL 

1175
00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:48,038
SOLUTIONS AROUND BACKGROUNDING 

1176
00:46:48,038 --> 00:46:49,306
AND PUTTING MORE FOLKS INTO 

1177
00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:51,742
BACKGROUNDING THAT THEY MIGHT 

1178
00:46:51,742 --> 00:46:53,777
EXPECT OUT SOME VARIOUS KINDS OF

1179
00:46:53,777 --> 00:46:54,378
OPERATIONAL ADJUSTMENTS THAT 

1180
00:46:54,378 --> 00:46:57,548
MIGHT INCREASE, INCREASE THE 

1181
00:46:57,548 --> 00:46:58,615
NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT THEY CAN 

1182
00:46:58,615 --> 00:47:02,052
GET ONTO THIS GROUP. 

1183
00:47:02,052 --> 00:47:03,854
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE A 

1184
00:47:03,854 --> 00:47:05,889
DISINCENTIVE TO MAKE THESE 

1185
00:47:05,889 --> 00:47:07,724
HIRES. IT IS THE CASE THAT THEY 

1186
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:11,195
HAVE A RATHER SIGNIFICANT 

1187
00:47:11,195 --> 00:47:13,697
CIVILIAN VACANCY RATE CUT. AND 

1188
00:47:13,697 --> 00:47:15,532
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE CITY

1189
00:47:15,532 --> 00:47:17,034
BUDGET OFFICE EXPECTS THAT 

1190
00:47:17,034 --> 00:47:19,570
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CERTAIN 

1191
00:47:19,570 --> 00:47:21,438
AMOUNT OF VACANCIES OVER THE 

1192
00:47:21,438 --> 00:47:25,242
YEAR FOR SPD AND SO THE CITY 

1193
00:47:25,242 --> 00:47:26,243
BUDGET OFFICE HAS CUT SOME OF 

1194
00:47:26,243 --> 00:47:31,415
THE SALARY THAT WOULD BE USED TO

1195
00:47:31,415 --> 00:47:33,317
PAY THE THE CIVILIAN MEMBERS OF 

1196
00:47:33,317 --> 00:47:38,589
SPD. AND SO WHAT WHAT THIS DOES 

1197
00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:41,758
IS IT IT PUTS SPD IN A POSITION 

1198
00:47:41,758 --> 00:47:43,460
WHERE IF THE NATURAL VACANCIES 

1199
00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:45,329
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE NOT 

1200
00:47:45,329 --> 00:47:45,963
ALLOWING THEM TO MEET THE CUT, 

1201
00:47:45,963 --> 00:47:48,232
THEY WILL HAVE TO HOLD SOME 

1202
00:47:48,232 --> 00:47:50,033
POSITIONS. VACANT. VACANT 

1203
00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:51,501
PURPOSEFULLY TO MEET THIS CUT. 

1204
00:47:51,501 --> 00:47:52,936
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY 

1205
00:47:52,936 --> 00:47:54,271
HAVE DONE WITH THIS GROUP POS IN

1206
00:47:54,271 --> 00:47:56,807
THE PAST UNFORTUNATELY, THEY 

1207
00:47:56,807 --> 00:47:58,976
HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO LEAVE THESE

1208
00:47:58,976 --> 00:48:01,645
POSITIONS VACANT AND TO USE THE 

1209
00:48:01,645 --> 00:48:04,014
SALARY DOLLARS TO MEET THEIR CUT

1210
00:48:04,014 --> 00:48:05,249
TARGETS. THAT'S A GOOD THING 

1211
00:48:05,249 --> 00:48:06,617
FOR SPD, BUT IT'S NOT A GOOD 

1212
00:48:06,617 --> 00:48:09,486
THING FOR THE CITY. AS I HAVE 

1213
00:48:09,486 --> 00:48:15,359
MENTIONED IN THE PAST, A TYPICAL

1214
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:16,560
TEP WILL COST ABOUT $115,000 OF 

1215
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,496
SALARY AND BENEFITS, AND THEY 

1216
00:48:19,496 --> 00:48:21,698
BRING IN ABOUT $200,000 IN 

1217
00:48:21,698 --> 00:48:22,332
REVENUE WHEN THEY ARE ENFORCING 

1218
00:48:22,332 --> 00:48:23,400
THE RIGHT OF WAY. OF COURSE, 

1219
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,770
THIS ISN'T ABOUT MONEY. THIS IS

1220
00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:27,404
ABOUT PROPER ENFORCEMENT OF THE 

1221
00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:32,175
RIGHT OF WAY. AND OTHER OTHER 

1222
00:48:32,175 --> 00:48:33,911
ACTIVITIES THAT PEOS DO. SO I 

1223
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:35,512
ASKED THE DEPARTMENT IF THEY HAD

1224
00:48:35,512 --> 00:48:38,248
EVER, OR IF THEY HAD PERFORMED A

1225
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:39,616
WHAT'S CALLED A VIOLATION 

1226
00:48:39,616 --> 00:48:43,387
CAPTURE RATE STUDY. ARE THERE 

1227
00:48:43,387 --> 00:48:43,987
MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENFORCE 

1228
00:48:43,987 --> 00:48:45,088
THE RIGHT OF WAY THAN OUR PEOS 

1229
00:48:45,088 --> 00:48:47,457
ARE CURRENTLY USING AT THEIR 

1230
00:48:47,457 --> 00:48:50,160
EXISTING STAFF LEVELS? THEY HAVE

1231
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,362
NOT DONE SUCH A STUDY. SO I GOT 

1232
00:48:52,362 --> 00:48:55,098
DATA ON THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS 

1233
00:48:55,098 --> 00:48:58,268
AND THE NUMBER OF PEOS 

1234
00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,605
PRE-PANDEMIC. AS YOU SEE IN THIS

1235
00:49:01,605 --> 00:49:05,275
TABLE, YOU'LL SEE 2018 AND 

1236
00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,077
2019, WHERE THE NUMBER OF POS 

1237
00:49:07,077 --> 00:49:08,879
WERE STAFFED AT A HIGHER LEVEL, 

1238
00:49:08,879 --> 00:49:12,182
92 OR 95. AND THERE YOU SEE THAT

1239
00:49:12,182 --> 00:49:14,685
THE CITATION COUNT, THE HIGHEST 

1240
00:49:14,685 --> 00:49:16,653
WAS 448,000 CITATIONS. AND THEN 

1241
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:21,258
YOU SEE POST PANDEMIC 23 AND 24,

1242
00:49:21,258 --> 00:49:24,528
YOU HAVE THE LOWER COUNT OF PEOS

1243
00:49:24,528 --> 00:49:25,329
AROUND 77. AND THE HIGH WATER 

1244
00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:29,499
MARK THERE IS 363,000. SO 

1245
00:49:29,499 --> 00:49:31,768
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE VIOLATIONS 

1246
00:49:31,768 --> 00:49:34,237
THAT ARE NOT BEING CAPTURED 

1247
00:49:34,237 --> 00:49:39,743
BECAUSE OUR FORCE IS NOT FULLY 

1248
00:49:39,743 --> 00:49:41,244
STAFFED. AND SO THERE IS AN 

1249
00:49:41,244 --> 00:49:41,878
OPPORTUNITY TO ENFORCE THE RIGHT

1250
00:49:41,878 --> 00:49:46,383
OF WAY BETTER. PROBABLY AS 

1251
00:49:46,383 --> 00:49:49,353
IMPORTANTLY, IS THAT THIS GROUP 

1252
00:49:49,353 --> 00:49:50,821
OF FOLKS NOW UNDER THE MOST 

1253
00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:53,123
RECENT CONTRACT, HAS THE ABILITY

1254
00:49:53,123 --> 00:49:55,792
TO DO SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL AND 

1255
00:49:55,792 --> 00:49:59,996
SOME EVENT WORK. AND CAN COME IN

1256
00:49:59,996 --> 00:50:04,401
AND TAKE THE PLACE OF, OF WHAT 

1257
00:50:04,401 --> 00:50:05,769
HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN POSTED OR 

1258
00:50:05,769 --> 00:50:08,839
STAFFED BY A SWORN OFFICER. SO 

1259
00:50:08,839 --> 00:50:11,141
IF WE HAD MORE PEOS, WE COULD 

1260
00:50:11,141 --> 00:50:12,642
DEPLOY THEM TO MORE EVENTS AND 

1261
00:50:12,642 --> 00:50:14,945
TAKE STRESS OFF OF THE POLICE 

1262
00:50:14,945 --> 00:50:17,681
DEPARTMENT TO HAVE TWO STAFF, 

1263
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:20,550
SOME NON SAFETY ORIENTED 

1264
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:21,651
POSITIONS, SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL 

1265
00:50:21,651 --> 00:50:25,489
THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE

1266
00:50:25,489 --> 00:50:28,892
SEEING HERE IS THAT THERE IS AN 

1267
00:50:28,892 --> 00:50:29,493
OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER ENFORCE 

1268
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:30,594
THE RIGHT OF WAY. THERE'S AN 

1269
00:50:30,594 --> 00:50:31,928
OPPORTUNITY TO BOLSTER EVENTS 

1270
00:50:31,928 --> 00:50:32,996
WITH PCOS. BUT THE PCOS HAVE TO 

1271
00:50:32,996 --> 00:50:39,336
BE HIRED. SO TO THE POLICY 

1272
00:50:39,336 --> 00:50:40,437
OPTIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE 

1273
00:50:40,437 --> 00:50:43,573
YEARS, I'VE PROVIDED THE COUNCIL

1274
00:50:43,573 --> 00:50:45,776
VARIOUS POLICY OPTIONS. THE 

1275
00:50:45,776 --> 00:50:49,312
COUNCIL HAS ADDED TWO FTES TO 

1276
00:50:49,312 --> 00:50:50,914
THE TRAINING UNIT TO TO TRY TO 

1277
00:50:50,914 --> 00:50:52,649
ALLEVIATE THE DEPARTMENT'S 

1278
00:50:52,649 --> 00:50:53,316
WORRY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE

1279
00:50:53,316 --> 00:50:58,255
TOO MANY PCOS AND WIND UP 

1280
00:50:58,255 --> 00:50:59,923
OVERSTAFFED. THE. THE COUNCIL 

1281
00:50:59,923 --> 00:51:02,959
ADDED LAST YEAR, $2 MILLION AND 

1282
00:51:02,959 --> 00:51:04,027
RESTRICTED IT BY PROVISO AND 

1283
00:51:04,027 --> 00:51:05,996
SAID, SPD, IF YOU HIRE THESE 

1284
00:51:05,996 --> 00:51:07,531
POSITIONS, THEN WE KNOW THEY'LL

1285
00:51:07,531 --> 00:51:10,200
CREATE REVENUE AND WE'LL RELEASE

1286
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,702
THIS PROVISO. SO IT PAYS FOR 

1287
00:51:12,702 --> 00:51:13,770
THEIR THEIR POSITIONS. YOU 

1288
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:15,539
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE 

1289
00:51:15,539 --> 00:51:16,873
VACANCY CUT. THEY DID NOT DO 

1290
00:51:16,873 --> 00:51:21,878
THAT. SO. THIS YEAR, ALL I'M 

1291
00:51:21,878 --> 00:51:23,647
RECOMMENDING IS ADOPTING A 

1292
00:51:23,647 --> 00:51:26,450
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT 

1293
00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:28,085
THAT ASKS THEM TO REPORT BACK. 

1294
00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:30,287
THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE THEY HAVE NOT

1295
00:51:30,287 --> 00:51:32,689
FILLED THE TRAINING POSITIONS. 

1296
00:51:32,689 --> 00:51:35,125
THEY DID NOT FILL THEM LAST 

1297
00:51:35,125 --> 00:51:36,927
YEAR. SO IT THIS IS REALLY IN 

1298
00:51:36,927 --> 00:51:44,367
THE EXECUTIVE'S HANDS SO THE 

1299
00:51:44,367 --> 00:51:46,436
NEXT ISSUE IS CIVILIAN STAFFING 

1300
00:51:46,436 --> 00:51:50,207
IN THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER 

1301
00:51:50,207 --> 00:51:51,641
THE ORIGINAL AD FOR THE REAL 

1302
00:51:51,641 --> 00:51:53,143
TIME CRIME CENTER CIVILIAN STAFF

1303
00:51:53,143 --> 00:51:55,245
WAS FOR 21 POSITIONS IN TOTAL, 

1304
00:51:55,245 --> 00:51:58,849
12 OF THESE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN 

1305
00:51:58,849 --> 00:52:02,319
HIRED AND ARE CURRENTLY STAFFING

1306
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:02,953
THE ARTIE CC. THEY ARE STAFFING 

1307
00:52:02,953 --> 00:52:05,689
IT BETWEEN 8:00 IN THE MORNING 

1308
00:52:05,689 --> 00:52:09,359
AND 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. THE 

1309
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:11,895
EXECUTIVE HAS SAID THAT THEY 

1310
00:52:11,895 --> 00:52:14,097
INTEND TO ADD SIX MORE POSITIONS

1311
00:52:14,097 --> 00:52:15,165
TO THE 12 TO BRING IT TO A TOTAL

1312
00:52:15,165 --> 00:52:17,801
STAFF OF 18, AND THAT WOULD 

1313
00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:23,607
ALLOW THE THE CENTER TO BE 

1314
00:52:23,607 --> 00:52:26,109
STAFFED 24/7 AND RESPOND TO 

1315
00:52:26,109 --> 00:52:26,743
ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT

1316
00:52:26,743 --> 00:52:30,080
THE DAY, ANY DAY OR WEEK, 

1317
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,315
ANYTIME. THERE ARE THREE 

1318
00:52:32,315 --> 00:52:33,016
POSITIONS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO 

1319
00:52:33,016 --> 00:52:35,452
BE ADDED IN THE 2027 BUDGET THAT

1320
00:52:35,452 --> 00:52:39,823
ARE DEFUNDED AND NOT PLANNED TO 

1321
00:52:39,823 --> 00:52:41,324
BE ADDED. THOSE POSITIONS, THE 

1322
00:52:41,324 --> 00:52:43,426
EXECUTIVE HAD SAID, ARE NOT 

1323
00:52:43,426 --> 00:52:45,962
NECESSARY AT THIS TIME THAT THEY

1324
00:52:45,962 --> 00:52:48,198
WOULD BECOME NECESSARY IF ANY OF

1325
00:52:48,198 --> 00:52:51,101
THAT EXISTING 18 STAFF STARTED 

1326
00:52:51,101 --> 00:52:53,470
TO USE LONG TERM LEAVE, OR THERE

1327
00:52:53,470 --> 00:52:58,942
WAS A VACANCY PROBLEM THERE, OR 

1328
00:52:58,942 --> 00:53:00,010
IF IF THE NUMBER OF CAMERAS 

1329
00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:01,912
EXPANDED IN THE CITY, THEN THERE

1330
00:53:01,912 --> 00:53:03,380
WOULD BE A NEED POTENTIALLY TO 

1331
00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:06,316
HIRE THOSE ADDITIONAL THREE 

1332
00:53:06,316 --> 00:53:09,252
STAFFERS. SO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT 

1333
00:53:09,252 --> 00:53:10,820
THE EXECUTIVE HAS LEFT THOSE 

1334
00:53:10,820 --> 00:53:13,924
POSITIONS IN THE BUDGET, THEY'RE

1335
00:53:13,924 --> 00:53:15,025
UNFUNDED. THE COUNCIL COULD NEXT

1336
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:15,926
YEAR, IF THERE IS A NEED, ADD 

1337
00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:17,561
FUNDING TO A SUPPLEMENTAL 

1338
00:53:17,561 --> 00:53:18,562
BUDGET, AND THEN SPD COULD HIRE 

1339
00:53:18,562 --> 00:53:20,263
THOSE POSITIONS. BUT AS OF RIGHT

1340
00:53:20,263 --> 00:53:23,099
NOW, THEY SAY THAT IT'S 

1341
00:53:23,099 --> 00:53:23,967
UNNECESSARY. IT IS THE CASE, I 

1342
00:53:23,967 --> 00:53:26,069
THINK, THAT THIS COUNCIL IS WELL

1343
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:29,472
AWARE OF THAT. THE MAYOR HAS PUT

1344
00:53:29,472 --> 00:53:31,241
SOME ACTIVATION OF CAMERAS, 

1345
00:53:31,241 --> 00:53:31,875
PARTICULARLY AROUND GARFIELD AND

1346
00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:35,745
CAPITOL HILL, ON HOLD, AND THAT 

1347
00:53:35,745 --> 00:53:37,814
THAT THE ACTIVATION OF THOSE 

1348
00:53:37,814 --> 00:53:39,449
CAMERAS IS PENDING A COUPLE 

1349
00:53:39,449 --> 00:53:41,885
EVALUATIONS THAT WILL BE DONE ON

1350
00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:44,387
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS AND 

1351
00:53:44,387 --> 00:53:46,957
TECHNOLOGY PROTECTIONS TO MAKE 

1352
00:53:46,957 --> 00:53:47,924
SURE THAT CAMERAS ARE NOT 

1353
00:53:47,924 --> 00:53:51,661
CREATING ANY ANY RISK FROM AYE 

1354
00:53:51,661 --> 00:53:55,799
PRIVACY RIGHTS STANDPOINT. IF 

1355
00:53:55,799 --> 00:53:57,968
THAT STUDY COMES BACK AND THE 

1356
00:53:57,968 --> 00:53:59,402
MAYOR DECIDES TO ACTIVATE THOSE 

1357
00:53:59,402 --> 00:54:01,237
CAMERAS, IF THE MAYOR DECIDES TO

1358
00:54:01,237 --> 00:54:02,672
EXPAND THE CAMERAS, THEN THAT 

1359
00:54:02,672 --> 00:54:04,874
MIGHT BE A TIME TO ADD BACK THE 

1360
00:54:04,874 --> 00:54:07,277
THREE. OR YOU, THE COUNCIL COULD

1361
00:54:07,277 --> 00:54:09,879
CHOOSE TO ADD BACK THOSE THREE. 

1362
00:54:09,879 --> 00:54:11,481
NOW EXPECTING THAT THAT THOSE 

1363
00:54:11,481 --> 00:54:13,583
THINGS WILL HAPPEN. SO THAT'S 

1364
00:54:13,583 --> 00:54:14,384
ESSENTIALLY THE OPTIONS THAT I 

1365
00:54:14,384 --> 00:54:16,119
HAVE FOR YOU. RESTORING THE 

1366
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:18,755
THREE FTE, RESTORING FUNDING FOR

1367
00:54:18,755 --> 00:54:23,126
THE THREE FTE WOULD BE ABOUT 

1368
00:54:23,126 --> 00:54:25,362
511,027, THE SAME AMOUNT IN 28 

1369
00:54:25,362 --> 00:54:27,797
AND ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT IN 

1370
00:54:27,797 --> 00:54:31,201
29. THOSE AMOUNTS WOULD GO UP BY

1371
00:54:31,201 --> 00:54:32,669
INFLATORS, COLA INFLATION, ET 

1372
00:54:32,669 --> 00:54:33,870
CETERA. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT 

1373
00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:34,938
THOSE ARE RIGHT NOW. SO I'M JUST

1374
00:54:34,938 --> 00:54:41,177
HOLDING THEM CONSTANT. SO THE 

1375
00:54:41,177 --> 00:54:44,047
NEXT ITEM GOING TO BE RELATIVELY

1376
00:54:44,047 --> 00:54:46,950
SHORT IS CIVILIAN POSITIONS IN 

1377
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:49,286
THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS 

1378
00:54:49,286 --> 00:54:52,455
BUREAU. IN THIS PARTICULAR 

1379
00:54:52,455 --> 00:54:55,058
ISSUE, BACK IN 2025 AND 26, 

1380
00:54:55,058 --> 00:54:57,360
THERE WERE 14 CIVILIAN POSITIONS

1381
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:03,133
THAT WERE ADDED TO THIS BUREAU. 

1382
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:04,467
7 IN 2025 AND 7 IN 2026 TO 

1383
00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:08,004
ASSIST DETECTIVES WITH VARIOUS 

1384
00:55:08,004 --> 00:55:10,640
KINDS OF INVESTIGATIONS. THESE 

1385
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,943
CIVILIANS COULD EITHER BE PRIOR 

1386
00:55:13,943 --> 00:55:14,611
SWORN INDIVIDUALS, DETECTIVES 

1387
00:55:14,611 --> 00:55:16,680
WHO ARE, SAY, COMING BACK FROM 

1388
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,548
RETIREMENT. AND THAT INDEED IS 

1389
00:55:18,548 --> 00:55:20,016
THE WAY THAT THAT SPD HAS BEEN 

1390
00:55:20,016 --> 00:55:22,252
USING THIS GROUP, OR THEY COULD 

1391
00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:24,721
BE CIVILIANS THAT COME IN AND 

1392
00:55:24,721 --> 00:55:27,357
ASSIST WITH GETTING INFORMATION 

1393
00:55:27,357 --> 00:55:27,924
FOR DETECTIVES TO HELP THE 

1394
00:55:27,924 --> 00:55:28,992
THROUGHPUT ON CASES, WHETHER 

1395
00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:31,394
THAT INFORMATION BE FROM 

1396
00:55:31,394 --> 00:55:32,829
CRIMINAL HISTORIES OR FROM THE 

1397
00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:34,698
COURT, THEY COULD SERVE IN A 

1398
00:55:34,698 --> 00:55:38,201
SUPPORT FUNCTION TO HELP 

1399
00:55:38,201 --> 00:55:40,737
DETECTIVES CLEAR CASES. IT IS 

1400
00:55:40,737 --> 00:55:41,771
THE CASE THAT SEVEN OF THESE 

1401
00:55:41,771 --> 00:55:43,473
POSITIONS WERE HIRED. FORMER 

1402
00:55:43,473 --> 00:55:47,043
DETECTIVES, LARGELY IN 2025, AND

1403
00:55:47,043 --> 00:55:48,812
THE OTHER SEVEN HAVE BEEN ON 

1404
00:55:48,812 --> 00:55:49,946
HOLD THROUGH 2026 DUE TO BUDGET 

1405
00:55:49,946 --> 00:55:54,684
REASONS SPD HAS CUT IN THE OR. 

1406
00:55:54,684 --> 00:55:56,252
I'M SORRY THE MAYOR HAS CUT IN 

1407
00:55:56,252 --> 00:55:59,289
THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THE OTHER 

1408
00:55:59,289 --> 00:56:00,690
SEVEN POSITIONS ALTOGETHER. AS 

1409
00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:01,825
PART OF MY ANALYSIS OF THE 

1410
00:56:01,825 --> 00:56:04,427
BUDGET, I HAVE ASKED THE 

1411
00:56:04,427 --> 00:56:05,862
EXECUTIVE FOR WORKLOAD 

1412
00:56:05,862 --> 00:56:08,932
INDICATORS FOR THIS UNIT, 

1413
00:56:08,932 --> 00:56:10,333
PARTICULARLY WHETHER OR NOT 

1414
00:56:10,333 --> 00:56:13,103
THERE'S A BACKLOG OF ANY CASES 

1415
00:56:13,103 --> 00:56:16,840
THAT MIGHT BE BETTER ADDRESSED 

1416
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,808
THROUGH MORE STAFFING, AND I AM 

1417
00:56:18,808 --> 00:56:19,976
CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF 

1418
00:56:19,976 --> 00:56:22,412
WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS ISSUE.

1419
00:56:22,412 --> 00:56:26,483
AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REPORT

1420
00:56:26,483 --> 00:56:31,454
BACK TO YOU ON IT ALL RIGHT. THE

1421
00:56:31,454 --> 00:56:35,925
NEXT ISSUE IS THE DIVERSITY, 

1422
00:56:35,925 --> 00:56:37,127
EQUITY AND INCLUSION DEI 

1423
00:56:37,127 --> 00:56:41,197
POSITION AND THE 30 BY 30 

1424
00:56:41,197 --> 00:56:42,799
POSITIONS. IT IS THE CASE THAT, 

1425
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:46,436
AS THE SLIDE SAYS, THE EXECUTIVE

1426
00:56:46,436 --> 00:56:48,638
HAS ELIMINATED A DEI POSITION 

1427
00:56:48,638 --> 00:56:50,473
AND FUNDING THAT WAS ADDED LAST 

1428
00:56:50,473 --> 00:56:53,610
YEAR. THAT AMOUNTS TO 207,000. 

1429
00:56:53,610 --> 00:56:56,179
AND THE EXECUTIVE HAS ALSO 

1430
00:56:56,179 --> 00:56:57,180
ELIMINATED A POSITION THAT WOULD

1431
00:56:57,180 --> 00:57:02,285
HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO THE 30 BY

1432
00:57:02,285 --> 00:57:04,220
30 WORK PROGRAM. THE COUNCIL IS 

1433
00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:05,922
FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE 30 BY 

1434
00:57:05,922 --> 00:57:07,791
30 POSITION. IT WAS THE COUNCIL 

1435
00:57:07,791 --> 00:57:10,393
THAT ADDED THE UNFUNDED POSITION

1436
00:57:10,393 --> 00:57:11,494
LAST YEAR AND ADDED A PROVISO 

1437
00:57:11,494 --> 00:57:13,563
THAT WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED 

1438
00:57:13,563 --> 00:57:14,497
SPD'S BUDGET SO THAT THEY HAD 

1439
00:57:14,497 --> 00:57:16,533
TO PAY FOR IT. AND IT IS THE 

1440
00:57:16,533 --> 00:57:20,403
CASE THAT SPD HAS NOT HIRED IT. 

1441
00:57:20,403 --> 00:57:23,406
AND THE MONEY THAT WAS DEDICATED

1442
00:57:23,406 --> 00:57:24,941
VIA PROVISO WILL JUST LAPSE INTO

1443
00:57:24,941 --> 00:57:26,376
THE GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR AND 

1444
00:57:26,376 --> 00:57:28,178
BE USED TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET 

1445
00:57:28,178 --> 00:57:32,782
NEXT YEAR TALK A LITTLE BIT 

1446
00:57:32,782 --> 00:57:36,486
ABOUT THE 30 BY 30 PROGRAM. HERE

1447
00:57:36,486 --> 00:57:40,957
ON THIS SLIDE, SPD HAS MADE SOME

1448
00:57:40,957 --> 00:57:42,325
PROGRESS IN ADVANCING SOME OF 

1449
00:57:42,325 --> 00:57:43,726
THE INITIATIVES THAT THEY 

1450
00:57:43,726 --> 00:57:46,663
IDENTIFIED FOR THAT PROGRAM TO 

1451
00:57:46,663 --> 00:57:47,931
INCLUDE CHILD CARE ADVERTISING, 

1452
00:57:47,931 --> 00:57:50,333
CHANGING THE WAY IT TEACHES 

1453
00:57:50,333 --> 00:57:50,967
DEFENSE TACTICS, EQUIPS WOMEN, 

1454
00:57:50,967 --> 00:57:53,803
AND PROVIDING FACILITIES FOR NEW

1455
00:57:53,803 --> 00:57:54,504
MOTHERS. THESE YOU MAY REMEMBER,

1456
00:57:54,504 --> 00:57:55,705
THESE ARE THESE ARE THINGS THAT 

1457
00:57:55,705 --> 00:57:57,507
THEY HAD ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE 

1458
00:57:57,507 --> 00:58:00,143
LAST YEAR, THINGS THAT THEY WERE

1459
00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:02,412
AIMING TO ACCOMPLISH LAST YEAR 

1460
00:58:02,412 --> 00:58:03,847
WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A 

1461
00:58:03,847 --> 00:58:06,549
MENTORSHIP PROGRAM IDENTIFYING 

1462
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:09,919
FLEXIBLE SHIP'S OFFICE SHIFT 

1463
00:58:09,919 --> 00:58:11,321
OPTIONS, OR A PROFESSIONAL 

1464
00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:11,888
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THOSE 

1465
00:58:11,888 --> 00:58:14,090
THINGS HAVE NOT OCCURRED THIS 

1466
00:58:14,090 --> 00:58:16,793
YEAR. I HAVE INCLUDED IN THE 

1467
00:58:16,793 --> 00:58:18,928
ISSUE PAPER A TABLE THAT GOES 

1468
00:58:18,928 --> 00:58:21,931
GOAL BY GOAL FOR THE 30 BY 30 

1469
00:58:21,931 --> 00:58:22,999
PROGRAM, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE

1470
00:58:22,999 --> 00:58:24,667
WELCOME TO GO TO THAT TABLE AND 

1471
00:58:24,667 --> 00:58:26,169
SEE WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED 

1472
00:58:26,169 --> 00:58:30,473
IN THE LAST YEAR. I THINK SPD 

1473
00:58:30,473 --> 00:58:31,107
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE DEPARTMENT

1474
00:58:31,107 --> 00:58:32,976
AND THE 30 BY 30 WORKGROUP 

1475
00:58:32,976 --> 00:58:34,811
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THESE AREAS.

1476
00:58:34,811 --> 00:58:37,013
THEY'RE DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX 

1477
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:39,082
UNDERTAKING AND PARTICULARLY FOR

1478
00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:40,917
THE SWORN ON THE GROUP THAT HAVE

1479
00:58:40,917 --> 00:58:43,319
FULL TIME JOBS. SO I THINK THE 

1480
00:58:43,319 --> 00:58:44,354
COUNCIL RECOGNIZED THIS LAST 

1481
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:46,222
YEAR AND ADDED A POSITION. THIS 

1482
00:58:46,222 --> 00:58:48,024
IS SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL LIKE

1483
00:58:48,024 --> 00:58:50,460
THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR EXISTING 

1484
00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:53,663
HR STAFF IN SUPPORT OF THIS 

1485
00:58:53,663 --> 00:58:55,899
WORK. AND THAT IS ALSO THE CASE 

1486
00:58:55,899 --> 00:59:00,036
FOR THE DEI POSITION. THEY FEEL 

1487
00:59:00,036 --> 00:59:02,972
THAT THEIR EXISTING HR STAFF CAN

1488
00:59:02,972 --> 00:59:05,608
CAN MANAGE THE DEI 

1489
00:59:05,608 --> 00:59:08,244
RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE 

1490
00:59:08,244 --> 00:59:11,714
DEPARTMENT. I HAVE ASKED 

1491
00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:14,784
SPECIFICALLY WHO IN THE HR 

1492
00:59:14,784 --> 00:59:15,285
DEPARTMENT AND HOW MANY 

1493
00:59:15,285 --> 00:59:16,519
POSITIONS WOULD BE DEDICATED TO 

1494
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:19,322
THIS DEI FUNCTION. AND WHAT I 

1495
00:59:19,322 --> 00:59:21,591
WAS TOLD WAS THAT THERE IS ONE 

1496
00:59:21,591 --> 00:59:23,393
CIVILIAN AND ONE SWORN PERSON 

1497
00:59:23,393 --> 00:59:26,996
WORKING ON THESE TASKS. THE 

1498
00:59:26,996 --> 00:59:29,465
CIVILIAN ALSO SUPPORTS THE CSO 

1499
00:59:29,465 --> 00:59:30,967
GROUP, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, 

1500
00:59:30,967 --> 00:59:34,938
EVENT PLANNING, AND THE. BEFORE 

1501
00:59:34,938 --> 00:59:38,708
THE BADGE PROGRAM. SO OBVIOUSLY 

1502
00:59:38,708 --> 00:59:42,879
THAT PERSON WOULD BE STRETCHED. 

1503
00:59:42,879 --> 00:59:46,783
SO MY OPTIONS FOR YOU HERE ARE 

1504
00:59:46,783 --> 00:59:49,719
SIMILAR TO PRIOR OPTIONS. ADD 

1505
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,322
BACK THE ONE FTE AND THE 207,000

1506
00:59:52,322 --> 00:59:57,360
FOR THE DEI POSITION. ADD ONE 

1507
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:03,333
FTE AND 207,000 FOR A 30 BY 30 

1508
01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:04,867
POSITION OR NO CHANGE. WHAT'S 

1509
01:00:04,867 --> 01:00:07,370
IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE HERE IS 

1510
01:00:07,370 --> 01:00:09,739
THAT THERE IS PAST PRACTICE OF 

1511
01:00:09,739 --> 01:00:12,308
NOT HIRING FOR THESE POSITIONS, 

1512
01:00:12,308 --> 01:00:14,277
AND THE EXECUTIVE IS WITHIN 

1513
01:00:14,277 --> 01:00:16,312
THEIR RIGHT TO DO THAT. THE 

1514
01:00:16,312 --> 01:00:19,115
COUNCIL COULD ADD A PROVISO THAT

1515
01:00:19,115 --> 01:00:20,283
RESTRICTS THE FUNDING, BUT THE 

1516
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:21,985
EXECUTIVE COULD NOT HIRE FOR 

1517
01:00:21,985 --> 01:00:23,453
THESE POSITIONS AGAIN AND LET 

1518
01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:26,990
THE FUNDING LAPSE. SO THAT'S A 

1519
01:00:26,990 --> 01:00:31,060
CONSIDERATION WHEN LOOKING AT 

1520
01:00:31,060 --> 01:00:33,496
THESE OPTIONS. AND THE LAST 

1521
01:00:33,496 --> 01:00:35,431
ISSUE IS OVERTIME. THIS IS 

1522
01:00:35,431 --> 01:00:36,332
ALWAYS AN ISSUE. SO I JUST SAVED

1523
01:00:36,332 --> 01:00:43,706
IT FOR THE LAST SPD IS BUDGETED 

1524
01:00:43,706 --> 01:00:46,809
FOR 473,000 HOURS OF OVERTIME IN

1525
01:00:46,809 --> 01:00:48,144
THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF THE 

1526
01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:52,982
BIENNIUM. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN

1527
01:00:52,982 --> 01:00:56,886
THIS BAR CHART IN THE 2026. 2027

1528
01:00:56,886 --> 01:01:00,089
PROPOSED, THERE'S 473,000 HOURS.

1529
01:01:00,089 --> 01:01:02,925
AND THIS YEAR THERE WERE 473,000

1530
01:01:02,925 --> 01:01:07,030
HOURS OF BUDGET. WHAT WE KNOW IS

1531
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:08,965
THAT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, 

1532
01:01:08,965 --> 01:01:13,770
SPD HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY 

1533
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:18,908
SPENDING ABOUT 500,000 HOURS OF 

1534
01:01:18,908 --> 01:01:22,812
OVERTIME. THAT IN THE 2025. 

1535
01:01:22,812 --> 01:01:25,448
BUDGET, THEY EXCEEDED THE 500 OR

1536
01:01:25,448 --> 01:01:26,916
THE BUDGET, SPENT 504, AND THERE

1537
01:01:26,916 --> 01:01:28,851
WAS A DEFICIT OF ABOUT 1.6 

1538
01:01:28,851 --> 01:01:33,189
MILLION. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO 

1539
01:01:33,189 --> 01:01:35,525
IN THAT YEAR, THEY WERE ABLE TO 

1540
01:01:35,525 --> 01:01:37,026
ADDRESS THAT DEFICIT WITHIN 

1541
01:01:37,026 --> 01:01:39,529
THEIR OWN BUDGET. THEY HAD 

1542
01:01:39,529 --> 01:01:40,663
ENOUGH VACANCY SAVINGS, SALARY 

1543
01:01:40,663 --> 01:01:41,597
SAVINGS, BOTH SWORN AND 

1544
01:01:41,597 --> 01:01:43,232
CIVILIAN, THAT THEY COULD THEY 

1545
01:01:43,232 --> 01:01:44,267
COULD ADDRESS THAT BUDGET 

1546
01:01:44,267 --> 01:01:46,069
WITHOUT ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION

1547
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:47,870
AUTHORITY. THAT IS NOT THE CASE 

1548
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:52,442
FOR THIS YEAR. FOR 2026. THIS 

1549
01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:54,744
YEAR, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO 

1550
01:01:54,744 --> 01:01:57,113
ABSORB WHAT WILL BE A $2.1 

1551
01:01:57,113 --> 01:01:58,514
MILLION DEFICIT FORECAST AT THE 

1552
01:01:58,514 --> 01:02:01,584
END OF THE YEAR, AND SO I WILL 

1553
01:02:01,584 --> 01:02:03,086
TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT A REQUEST

1554
01:02:03,086 --> 01:02:04,287
THAT THEY WILL MAKE IN THE 

1555
01:02:04,287 --> 01:02:07,657
FOURTH QUARTER, SUPPLEMENTAL FOR

1556
01:02:07,657 --> 01:02:09,859
$2.1 MILLION FOR OVERTIME THAT 

1557
01:02:09,859 --> 01:02:12,662
WOULD ESSENTIALLY SINK THE THE 

1558
01:02:12,662 --> 01:02:14,230
HOURS THAT THEY'VE USED WITH A 

1559
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:18,501
HIGHER LEVEL OF BUDGET, ABOUT 

1560
01:02:18,501 --> 01:02:22,238
500,000 HOURS. SHOULD THE SAME 

1561
01:02:22,238 --> 01:02:23,239
PATTERN HAPPEN THE WAY IT'S 

1562
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:26,609
HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, 

1563
01:02:26,609 --> 01:02:27,777
NEXT YEAR WE'D BE LOOKING AT 

1564
01:02:27,777 --> 01:02:31,047
THE COUNCIL, WOULD BE LOOKING AT

1565
01:02:31,047 --> 01:02:35,318
ANOTHER $2 MILLION DEFICIT. AND 

1566
01:02:35,318 --> 01:02:36,986
I THINK GIVEN AN ANALYSIS OF 

1567
01:02:36,986 --> 01:02:38,454
SPD'S BUDGET, THE VACANCY RATE 

1568
01:02:38,454 --> 01:02:40,089
CUT THAT I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE

1569
01:02:40,089 --> 01:02:42,759
WHILE AGO, AND THE TIGHTNESS OF 

1570
01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:44,961
THE SWORN STAFFING PLAN, I WOULD

1571
01:02:44,961 --> 01:02:45,661
EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE A 

1572
01:02:45,661 --> 01:02:49,665
SIMILAR OUTCOME THAT SPD WOULD 

1573
01:02:49,665 --> 01:02:50,900
NEED TO COME BACK AT THE END OF 

1574
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,003
NEXT YEAR, AND AT LAST, FOR AT 

1575
01:02:54,003 --> 01:02:56,439
LEAST $2 MILLION, UNLESS 

1576
01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:56,973
SOMETHING CHANGES, UNLESS 

1577
01:02:56,973 --> 01:02:59,575
OVERTIME USE IS IS SOMEHOW 

1578
01:02:59,575 --> 01:03:08,351
REDUCED DOWN TO 473,000 HOURS. 

1579
01:03:08,351 --> 01:03:11,554
SO THE OPTION FOR OVERTIME IS 

1580
01:03:11,554 --> 01:03:13,656
PROACTIVELY ADD 2.1 MILLION FOR 

1581
01:03:13,656 --> 01:03:16,559
OVERTIME TO THE 2027 BUDGET. 

1582
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:18,161
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE 

1583
01:03:18,161 --> 01:03:20,463
COUNCIL COULD DO, OR NO CHANGE. 

1584
01:03:20,463 --> 01:03:24,000
AND SEE IF SPD IS ABLE TO REDUCE

1585
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,101
ITS OVERTIME SPENDING RATHER 

1586
01:03:25,101 --> 01:03:25,802
THAN COMING BACK AT THE END OF 

1587
01:03:25,802 --> 01:03:31,841
NEXT YEAR SO THE LAST THING I'M

1588
01:03:31,841 --> 01:03:34,043
GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS NOT AN 

1589
01:03:34,043 --> 01:03:36,813
ISSUE, BUT MORE OF A SOMETHING 

1590
01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:40,917
TO BE AWARE OF. AND I'VE I'VE 

1591
01:03:40,917 --> 01:03:43,085
BEEN HEADED THIS WAY. SPD IS NOT

1592
01:03:43,085 --> 01:03:44,654
GOING TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THE 

1593
01:03:44,654 --> 01:03:47,023
YEAR WITHIN ITS CURRENT 

1594
01:03:47,023 --> 01:03:48,791
APPROPRIATION LEVELS. SO THE 

1595
01:03:48,791 --> 01:03:50,526
YEAR END SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET, 

1596
01:03:50,526 --> 01:03:51,661
WHICH IS TRANSMITTED ALONG WITH 

1597
01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:53,896
THE OTHER BUDGET MATERIALS, 

1598
01:03:53,896 --> 01:03:55,231
CONTAINS THREE ITEMS TO HELP 

1599
01:03:55,231 --> 01:03:56,833
THEM MEET THEIR BUDGET. THE 

1600
01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:58,601
FIRST ONE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT A

1601
01:03:58,601 --> 01:04:01,204
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR 

1602
01:04:01,204 --> 01:04:06,776
OVERTIME. THE SECOND ONE IS A 

1603
01:04:06,776 --> 01:04:09,378
RELEASE OF THAT $2.1 MILLION 

1604
01:04:09,378 --> 01:04:11,547
PROVISO FOR POS. SO I MENTIONED 

1605
01:04:11,547 --> 01:04:13,683
EARLIER THAT THE COUNCIL ADDED A

1606
01:04:13,683 --> 01:04:14,684
CHUNK OF MONEY AND THEN BUILT 

1607
01:04:14,684 --> 01:04:15,918
WALLS AROUND IT, RESTRICTED IT, 

1608
01:04:15,918 --> 01:04:17,253
AND SAID, YOU CAN HAVE THIS 

1609
01:04:17,253 --> 01:04:18,754
MONEY IF YOU HIRE THE PEOS. AND 

1610
01:04:18,754 --> 01:04:20,790
WE KNOW THEY'RE MAKING REVENUE.

1611
01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:23,092
AND THEN THEY'LL THAT'LL 

1612
01:04:23,092 --> 01:04:25,228
ESSENTIALLY BACK THE REVENUE. 

1613
01:04:25,228 --> 01:04:28,631
THEY DIDN'T HIRE THE POS, BUT 

1614
01:04:28,631 --> 01:04:30,099
THEY WANT THE MONEY ANYWAY, AND 

1615
01:04:30,099 --> 01:04:32,835
THEY WANT IT FOR BALANCING 

1616
01:04:32,835 --> 01:04:34,136
PURPOSES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 

1617
01:04:34,136 --> 01:04:36,105
THINGS THAT THEY THAT THEY WOULD

1618
01:04:36,105 --> 01:04:41,344
USE IT ON. THE MAJORITY OF 

1619
01:04:41,344 --> 01:04:41,944
THINGS ARE TECHNICAL SERVICE 

1620
01:04:41,944 --> 01:04:43,913
ITEMS THAT THEY SAY THAT THEY 

1621
01:04:43,913 --> 01:04:46,382
DON'T HAVE FUNDING TO PAY FOR 

1622
01:04:46,382 --> 01:04:48,017
THINGS LIKE A TABLEAU SERVER 

1623
01:04:48,017 --> 01:04:50,820
RENEWAL OR THE ALPR COSTS, 

1624
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:52,855
VARIOUS TECHNOLOGY ITEMS THAT 

1625
01:04:52,855 --> 01:04:54,824
THEY THAT THEY HAVE SAID HAVE 

1626
01:04:54,824 --> 01:04:56,225
LACKED DEDICATED FUNDING AND IN 

1627
01:04:56,225 --> 01:04:57,326
THE PAST HAVE BEEN COVERED WITH 

1628
01:04:57,326 --> 01:05:02,098
SALARY SAVINGS. AND THE LAST 

1629
01:05:02,098 --> 01:05:05,768
ITEM IS I'M CALLING IT AN ITEM.

1630
01:05:05,768 --> 01:05:07,603
THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS, SIX

1631
01:05:07,603 --> 01:05:09,238
OR SO ITEMS IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL 

1632
01:05:09,238 --> 01:05:11,807
BUDGET WHERE THEY'RE JUST 

1633
01:05:11,807 --> 01:05:14,810
ASKING FOR MORE AUTHORITY TO 

1634
01:05:14,810 --> 01:05:15,811
COVER UNEXPECTED COSTS. THOSE 

1635
01:05:15,811 --> 01:05:17,313
THINGS ADD UP TO ABOUT 1.8 

1636
01:05:17,313 --> 01:05:18,381
MILLION. AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE 

1637
01:05:18,381 --> 01:05:21,717
SLIDE HERE, IT'S EVERYTHING FROM

1638
01:05:21,717 --> 01:05:23,352
634,000 FOR CHIEF SHON BARNES 

1639
01:05:23,352 --> 01:05:29,492
SEPARATION COSTS TO 125,000 FOR 

1640
01:05:29,492 --> 01:05:31,027
DESIGN OF A NEW EVIDENCE 

1641
01:05:31,027 --> 01:05:33,496
FREEZER. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF 

1642
01:05:33,496 --> 01:05:37,633
SMALL ITEMS. I SAY SMALL BECAUSE

1643
01:05:37,633 --> 01:05:38,901
REMEMBERING THAT SPD IS A $55 

1644
01:05:38,901 --> 01:05:41,070
MILLION BUDGET, OR $550 MILLION 

1645
01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:42,204
BUDGET. THESE ARE THE KIND OF 

1646
01:05:42,204 --> 01:05:43,973
SMALL ITEMS THAT SPD HASN'T IN 

1647
01:05:43,973 --> 01:05:46,008
THE PAST COME FORWARD AND ASKED 

1648
01:05:46,008 --> 01:05:48,210
FOR FUNDING FOR. I THINK THE 

1649
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:48,844
FACT THAT THEY'RE COMING AND 

1650
01:05:48,844 --> 01:05:50,346
ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR THESE 

1651
01:05:50,346 --> 01:05:55,318
THINGS NOW IS INDICATIVE OF 

1652
01:05:55,318 --> 01:05:57,653
THEIR BUDGET BEING VERY TIGHTLY 

1653
01:05:57,653 --> 01:06:00,489
CONTROLLED THROUGH VACANCY AND 

1654
01:06:00,489 --> 01:06:01,657
SALARY SAVING CUTS. AND I THINK 

1655
01:06:01,657 --> 01:06:03,693
THAT YOU SEE THE SAME THING WITH

1656
01:06:03,693 --> 01:06:07,196
THE MAYOR MOVING SOME OF THAT 

1657
01:06:07,196 --> 01:06:09,932
SALARY FUNDING FROM THE 1250, 

1658
01:06:09,932 --> 01:06:11,901
51,250 FTE, MOVING SOME SALARY 

1659
01:06:11,901 --> 01:06:13,169
FUNDING OUT TO PAY FOR 

1660
01:06:13,169 --> 01:06:15,304
TECHNOLOGY ITEMS THERE. THE 

1661
01:06:15,304 --> 01:06:18,341
BUDGET IS IS UNDER STRESS AND 

1662
01:06:18,341 --> 01:06:20,976
THEY ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THEY

1663
01:06:20,976 --> 01:06:24,246
CAN'T ABSORB SOME OF THESE 

1664
01:06:24,246 --> 01:06:25,014
COSTS ANYMORE. AND THAT IS THE 

1665
01:06:25,014 --> 01:06:27,683
END OF MY PRESENTATION. 

1666
01:06:27,683 --> 01:06:32,254
-- THANK YOU. GREG. 26 SLIDES IN

1667
01:06:32,254 --> 01:06:35,224
60 MINUTES, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.

1668
01:06:35,224 --> 01:06:36,759
THANK YOU FOR THAT. VERY 

1669
01:06:36,759 --> 01:06:39,528
IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION. 

1670
01:06:39,528 --> 01:06:41,330
COLLEAGUES. THERE ARE A NUMBER 

1671
01:06:41,330 --> 01:06:44,333
OF DIFFERENT POLICY 

1672
01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:45,468
CONSIDERATIONS HERE. SO WE I AM 

1673
01:06:45,468 --> 01:06:46,836
GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR

1674
01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:48,871
IN THE USUAL MANNER. I WOULD 

1675
01:06:48,871 --> 01:06:51,674
APPRECIATE IF EVERYONE TAKES ONE

1676
01:06:51,674 --> 01:06:52,942
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, GET 

1677
01:06:52,942 --> 01:06:55,244
THROUGH ALL OF YOUR ISSUES IN 

1678
01:06:55,244 --> 01:06:57,380
ONE GO. GRANTED, IF YOU FORGET 

1679
01:06:57,380 --> 01:07:00,383
SOMETHING, I'M NOT. WE WILL 

1680
01:07:00,383 --> 01:07:01,550
ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENT, 

1681
01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:02,551
BUT MY REQUEST HERE TODAY IS. 

1682
01:07:02,551 --> 01:07:04,220
I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR ONCE 

1683
01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:05,588
AND IF YOU CAN JUST TAKE THAT 

1684
01:07:05,588 --> 01:07:08,224
FLOOR BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF 

1685
01:07:08,224 --> 01:07:09,992
CONTENT WITH THAT, I WILL 

1686
01:07:09,992 --> 01:07:10,626
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

1687
01:07:10,626 --> 01:07:12,228
AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE 

1688
01:07:12,228 --> 01:07:14,597
OVERSEEING THIS DEPARTMENT TO 

1689
01:07:14,597 --> 01:07:15,197
OPEN AND CLOSE COUNCILMEMBER 

1690
01:07:15,197 --> 01:07:16,532
KETTLE. 

1691
01:07:16,532 --> 01:07:17,633
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. I 

1692
01:07:17,633 --> 01:07:18,667
APPRECIATE IT, MR. DOSS. THANK 

1693
01:07:18,667 --> 01:07:20,136
YOU FOR THE BRIEFING. MR. 

1694
01:07:20,136 --> 01:07:22,671
WHITSON, THANK YOU FOR BEING 

1695
01:07:22,671 --> 01:07:24,340
HERE AS WELL. COLLEAGUES, IT'S 

1696
01:07:24,340 --> 01:07:26,308
PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY THAT PUBLIC

1697
01:07:26,308 --> 01:07:28,444
SAFETY IS THE AREA OF GREATEST 

1698
01:07:28,444 --> 01:07:30,112
CONTRAST WITH THE MAYOR AND THE 

1699
01:07:30,112 --> 01:07:31,614
ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF 

1700
01:07:31,614 --> 01:07:34,316
POLICY AND BUDGET AND EVERYTHING

1701
01:07:34,316 --> 01:07:35,951
ELSE. AND AS OPPOSED TO OTHER 

1702
01:07:35,951 --> 01:07:37,052
POLICY AREAS. AND I THINK 

1703
01:07:37,052 --> 01:07:39,622
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. AND 

1704
01:07:39,622 --> 01:07:43,392
AND I'VE SAID BEFORE TO FROM A 

1705
01:07:43,392 --> 01:07:45,194
BUDGETARY PROCESS, I APPRECIATE 

1706
01:07:45,194 --> 01:07:46,829
WHAT THE MAYOR'S BEEN DOING IN 

1707
01:07:46,829 --> 01:07:49,598
TERMS OF PRACTICES WITHIN THAT 

1708
01:07:49,598 --> 01:07:52,034
REALM AND THIS SHOWS UP IN MANY 

1709
01:07:52,034 --> 01:07:55,304
WAYS ACROSS THE BOARD. AND SO I 

1710
01:07:55,304 --> 01:07:56,405
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT CBO HAS

1711
01:07:56,405 --> 01:07:59,608
BEEN DOING ON THAT FRONT. NOW, 

1712
01:07:59,608 --> 01:08:01,143
THAT SAID, RELATED TO PUBLIC 

1713
01:08:01,143 --> 01:08:02,545
SAFETY, THERE IS SOME MAJOR 

1714
01:08:02,545 --> 01:08:04,046
CHALLENGES. AND WHEN I SAY 

1715
01:08:04,046 --> 01:08:04,880
PUBLIC SAFETY, PRIMARILY WITH 

1716
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,749
THE NINE ENTITIES THAT REPORT TO

1717
01:08:06,749 --> 01:08:08,083
MY COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO IN OTHER 

1718
01:08:08,083 --> 01:08:09,085
AREAS, AS WE SAW WITH THE 

1719
01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:13,622
UNIFIED CARE TEAM COLLEAGUES IN 

1720
01:08:13,622 --> 01:08:15,057
THE LAST TERM OF THE COUNCIL, WE

1721
01:08:15,057 --> 01:08:20,696
PASSED 36 BILLS ON PUBLIC SAFETY

1722
01:08:20,696 --> 01:08:22,565
AND TEN THIS YEAR TO SEVEN 

1723
01:08:22,565 --> 01:08:24,800
FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAD 

1724
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:25,868
TWO RELATED TO CARE AND PUBLIC 

1725
01:08:25,868 --> 01:08:27,002
DRUG USE AND POSSESSION THAT THE

1726
01:08:27,002 --> 01:08:30,239
MAYOR SIGNED THIS SUMMER. AND 

1727
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:30,873
OBVIOUSLY, IN HIGHLIGHTING THE 

1728
01:08:30,873 --> 01:08:33,075
CONTRAST, WE HAD THE RESOLUTION 

1729
01:08:33,075 --> 01:08:35,044
RELATED TO GUN VIOLENCE IN 

1730
01:08:35,044 --> 01:08:37,079
SEPTEMBER, WHICH PASSED SEVEN 

1731
01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:39,281
ZERO WITH TWO ABSTENTIONS, AND 

1732
01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:41,117
THAT SHOWS IT. AND OUR STRATEGIC

1733
01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:42,151
FRAMEWORK PLAN FOR A SAFER 

1734
01:08:42,151 --> 01:08:43,719
SEATTLE AND COMMITTEE IS REALLY 

1735
01:08:43,719 --> 01:08:45,087
THE FRAMEWORK THAT DRIVES WHAT 

1736
01:08:45,087 --> 01:08:47,389
WE'RE DOING ON PUBLIC SAFETY 

1737
01:08:47,389 --> 01:08:48,724
OVER THESE YEARS ACROSS, YOU 

1738
01:08:48,724 --> 01:08:51,861
KNOW, THE COUNCIL'S TERMS, BUT 

1739
01:08:51,861 --> 01:08:54,597
ALSO ADMINISTRATIONS AND KEY TO 

1740
01:08:54,597 --> 01:08:57,600
THAT PLAN IS, YOU KNOW, THE 

1741
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,603
ELEMENT OF SPD STAFFING CAN YOU 

1742
01:09:00,603 --> 01:09:07,109
HAVE SLIDE THREE UP, PLEASE? WE 

1743
01:09:07,109 --> 01:09:09,612
TOOK A MASSIVE HIT POST THE 

1744
01:09:09,612 --> 01:09:11,580
PANDEMIC AND SO FORTH. IN TERMS 

1745
01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:15,651
OF OUR STAFFING, IT CHANGED THE 

1746
01:09:15,651 --> 01:09:17,019
ENTIRE DYNAMIC THAT WE HAD 

1747
01:09:17,019 --> 01:09:19,054
RELATED TO THAT. BUT WE CAME IN 

1748
01:09:19,054 --> 01:09:21,323
AND OUT OF THOSE 36 BILLS, A 

1749
01:09:21,323 --> 01:09:23,359
NUMBER OF THEM WERE RELATED TO 

1750
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,896
STAFFING AND MIGHT I ADD, THE 

1751
01:09:26,896 --> 01:09:27,463
LEADERSHIP THAT THE COUNCIL 

1752
01:09:27,463 --> 01:09:28,297
SHOWN DURING THAT TIME PERIOD 

1753
01:09:28,297 --> 01:09:29,999
AND CONTINUES TO SHOW. I'VE 

1754
01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:30,733
TALKED TO MANY OFFICERS. THEY 

1755
01:09:30,733 --> 01:09:33,969
SAID THAT, YES, WE CAN TALK 

1756
01:09:33,969 --> 01:09:34,603
ABOUT SALARIES AND ALL THESE, 

1757
01:09:34,603 --> 01:09:37,106
YOU KNOW, INCENTIVES AND SO 

1758
01:09:37,106 --> 01:09:38,607
FORTH. BUT I'VE TALKED TO 

1759
01:09:38,607 --> 01:09:40,276
OFFICERS AND A KEY PIECE IS THE 

1760
01:09:40,276 --> 01:09:41,544
LEADERSHIP THAT WE'VE SHOWN, THE

1761
01:09:41,544 --> 01:09:42,478
FACT THAT WE GO TO THE 

1762
01:09:42,478 --> 01:09:43,546
PRECINCTS, WE TALK TO THE 

1763
01:09:43,546 --> 01:09:44,480
OFFICERS, WE HEAR THEIR 

1764
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,081
CONCERNS, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT 

1765
01:09:46,081 --> 01:09:47,917
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. THAT IS 

1766
01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:50,352
ALSO A KEY FACTOR IN TERMS OF 

1767
01:09:50,352 --> 01:09:52,922
THE THE MAJOR JUMP THAT WE SAW 

1768
01:09:52,922 --> 01:09:56,992
IN IN TERMS OF SPD HIRING AND 

1769
01:09:56,992 --> 01:09:59,128
IMPROVING OUR OUR NUMBERS DURING

1770
01:09:59,128 --> 01:10:03,065
THIS ENTIRE PERIOD. OUR GOAL WAS

1771
01:10:03,065 --> 01:10:03,699
THE MINIMUM 1414 HUNDRED PLUS. 

1772
01:10:03,699 --> 01:10:04,300
AND YOU COULD ARGUE BASED ON 

1773
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:06,769
PEER CITIES AND SO FORTH, 1600 

1774
01:10:06,769 --> 01:10:08,604
WOULD BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE 

1775
01:10:08,604 --> 01:10:10,906
NUMBER. BUT FOR BUDGETARY 

1776
01:10:10,906 --> 01:10:12,041
CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH MAKES 

1777
01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:13,509
TOTAL SENSE. YOU KNOW, LIKE LAST

1778
01:10:13,509 --> 01:10:15,544
YEAR, 1184 WAS THE NUMBER FOR 

1779
01:10:15,544 --> 01:10:17,179
BUDGETARY. BUT THE GOAL FOR THE 

1780
01:10:17,179 --> 01:10:21,450
YEAR, AS I SAID MANY TIMES, WAS 

1781
01:10:21,450 --> 01:10:23,519
1258. 1258 IN TERMS OF 

1782
01:10:23,519 --> 01:10:25,187
MAINTAINING MOMENTUM TO IMPROVE 

1783
01:10:25,187 --> 01:10:26,589
OUR STAFFING OF SPD, TO GET TO 

1784
01:10:26,589 --> 01:10:33,362
THAT 1400 PLUS NUMBER. BUT WHAT 

1785
01:10:33,362 --> 01:10:35,264
WE'VE SEEN NOW WITH THE 1250 

1786
01:10:35,264 --> 01:10:36,365
NUMBER IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST A 

1787
01:10:36,365 --> 01:10:38,534
BUDGET NUMBER, BUT THE NUMBER 

1788
01:10:38,534 --> 01:10:39,234
THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS, YOU 

1789
01:10:39,234 --> 01:10:41,170
KNOW, IS BASICALLY GOING FOR. 

1790
01:10:41,170 --> 01:10:44,373
AND WE SEE THIS IN THE HIRING 

1791
01:10:44,373 --> 01:10:46,141
PLAN, THE NUMBERS THAT MR. DOSS 

1792
01:10:46,141 --> 01:10:47,476
SHOWS IN TERMS OF BASICALLY 

1793
01:10:47,476 --> 01:10:49,745
ZEROING OUT. I THINK WE SEE THAT

1794
01:10:49,745 --> 01:10:52,748
RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF 

1795
01:10:52,748 --> 01:10:53,916
THAT TABLE. WE SEE THIS IN TERMS

1796
01:10:53,916 --> 01:10:55,684
OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY THE 

1797
01:10:55,684 --> 01:10:57,419
INCENTIVES. AND I HAD NO ISSUE 

1798
01:10:57,419 --> 01:10:58,621
RELATED TO CHANGING THE 

1799
01:10:58,621 --> 01:10:59,421
INCENTIVES. I THINK WE SHOULD 

1800
01:10:59,421 --> 01:11:01,357
LOOK AT IT. AND THE LATERAL 

1801
01:11:01,357 --> 01:11:02,791
TRANSFERS IS THAT ONE AREA, 

1802
01:11:02,791 --> 01:11:04,326
BECAUSE IF WE, PARTICULARLY 

1803
01:11:04,326 --> 01:11:05,361
WASHINGTON STATE OFFICER, IF WE 

1804
01:11:05,361 --> 01:11:06,195
WERE TO HAVE A LATERAL TRANSFER 

1805
01:11:06,195 --> 01:11:07,463
AND THAT KIND OF PAYS FOR ITSELF

1806
01:11:07,463 --> 01:11:11,500
IN A LOT OF WAYS, BUT ALSO, YOU 

1807
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:12,101
KNOW, HEARD FROM ESSENTIALLY 

1808
01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:13,802
WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A 

1809
01:11:13,802 --> 01:11:14,403
WHISTLEBLOWER TALKING ABOUT, 

1810
01:11:14,403 --> 01:11:15,904
HEY, WE CAN'T DO ON THE HR 

1811
01:11:15,904 --> 01:11:17,539
FRONT. WE CAN'T DO COLLEGE 

1812
01:11:17,539 --> 01:11:20,309
FAIRS. I'M NOT JOB FAIRS 

1813
01:11:20,309 --> 01:11:21,777
ANYMORE. HEY, WE CAN'T DO THIS 

1814
01:11:21,777 --> 01:11:23,512
AND THAT. AS IT RELATES TO THE 

1815
01:11:23,512 --> 01:11:25,414
HR PROCESS TO SPEED ALONG WHAT 

1816
01:11:25,414 --> 01:11:27,082
WAS BEING DONE IN TERMS OF 

1817
01:11:27,082 --> 01:11:28,951
TRYING TO ONBOARD THESE RECRUITS

1818
01:11:28,951 --> 01:11:30,452
THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING, THE 

1819
01:11:30,452 --> 01:11:31,720
MASSIVE INCREASE THAT WE HAD. 

1820
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:37,459
AND AS LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, 

1821
01:11:37,459 --> 01:11:39,028
THAT SHOW THAT THE 1400 PLUS 

1822
01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,763
NUMBER HAS BEEN ABANDONED, AND 

1823
01:11:40,763 --> 01:11:41,830
THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE AT THE

1824
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:43,365
END OF THE DAY, IF WE WANT TO 

1825
01:11:43,365 --> 01:11:45,200
REALLY TACKLE OUR CHALLENGES, 

1826
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,336
OUR CHRONIC PUBLIC SAFETY 

1827
01:11:47,336 --> 01:11:49,204
CHALLENGES, EACH TIME WE HAVE A 

1828
01:11:49,204 --> 01:11:50,673
PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGE, NORTH 

1829
01:11:50,673 --> 01:11:53,175
AURORA, LITTLE SAIGON DOESN'T 

1830
01:11:53,175 --> 01:11:54,176
MATTER EVERYWHERE. OKAY, 90 

1831
01:11:54,176 --> 01:11:55,844
DAYS, WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE 

1832
01:11:55,844 --> 01:11:56,578
BIKE COPS OR WE'RE GOING TO GET

1833
01:11:56,578 --> 01:11:57,279
MORE BIKE COPS, OR WE'RE GOING 

1834
01:11:57,279 --> 01:11:59,515
TO GET MORE BIKE COPS. YOU 

1835
01:11:59,515 --> 01:12:01,050
CAN'T KEEP ADDING MORE BIKE 

1836
01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:02,751
COPS UNLESS YOU RAISE THE NUMBER

1837
01:12:02,751 --> 01:12:03,819
OF OFFICERS THAT WE HAD TO GET 

1838
01:12:03,819 --> 01:12:07,056
TO THAT 1400 PLUS NUMBER. SO 

1839
01:12:07,056 --> 01:12:07,823
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, IT'S A BIT 

1840
01:12:07,823 --> 01:12:10,626
OF AN EMPTY PROMISE. IT'S AN 

1841
01:12:10,626 --> 01:12:11,660
EMPTY KIND OF STATEMENT. IF 

1842
01:12:11,660 --> 01:12:14,863
IT'S NOT BACKED UP WITH WHAT 

1843
01:12:14,863 --> 01:12:16,899
WE'RE DOING ON SPD STAFFING. 

1844
01:12:16,899 --> 01:12:20,402
AND BY THE WAY, WE DO HAVE THAT 

1845
01:12:20,402 --> 01:12:21,003
SINGULAR STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK 

1846
01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:24,139
PLAN THAT GUIDES US. I THINK A 

1847
01:12:24,139 --> 01:12:25,641
SINGULAR PLAN ON THE EXECUTIVE 

1848
01:12:25,641 --> 01:12:27,976
SIDE WOULD ALSO ASSIST IN THIS. 

1849
01:12:27,976 --> 01:12:30,579
SO UP TO THIS POINT, 1184 1250 

1850
01:12:30,579 --> 01:12:32,815
WAS US TAKING OFF FROM SEATAC 

1851
01:12:32,815 --> 01:12:37,186
SEA. CLIMBING UP TO THAT 1400 

1852
01:12:37,186 --> 01:12:40,122
NUMBER. BUT WE'RE IN A 

1853
01:12:40,122 --> 01:12:41,423
DIFFERENT PLACE NOW. IT'S AS IF

1854
01:12:41,423 --> 01:12:44,293
WE TURN AROUND AND WE'RE 

1855
01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:47,763
LANDING, BUT WE'RE BELOW 

1856
01:12:47,763 --> 01:12:49,231
GLIDESLOPE BECAUSE THAT 1250 

1857
01:12:49,231 --> 01:12:51,333
NUMBER IS NOT A 1250 NUMBER. 

1858
01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:52,501
THAT NUMBER, AS I THINK 

1859
01:12:52,501 --> 01:12:53,569
HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BRIEFING. AND

1860
01:12:53,569 --> 01:12:57,406
I'LL ASK MR. DOS IS LIKE 11. 

1861
01:12:57,406 --> 01:13:00,776
YOU KNOW, IN MY CHARTS HERE THAT

1862
01:13:00,776 --> 01:13:02,111
I HAVE OR NUMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, 

1863
01:13:02,111 --> 01:13:04,413
27, MAYBE 1088 FULLY TRAINED 

1864
01:13:04,413 --> 01:13:07,783
OFFICERS, MAYBE IN 28, 1151 

1865
01:13:07,783 --> 01:13:10,419
TRAINED OFFICERS WE'RE LIKE 

1866
01:13:10,419 --> 01:13:12,020
GLIDESLOPE. AND WITH THOSE 

1867
01:13:12,020 --> 01:13:13,088
NUMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO LAND 

1868
01:13:13,088 --> 01:13:15,891
SHORT OF THE RUNWAY. AT SCL. AT 

1869
01:13:15,891 --> 01:13:17,559
SEATAC. AND THIS IS GOING TO 

1870
01:13:17,559 --> 01:13:19,027
HAVE DRAMATIC IMPACTS IN TERMS 

1871
01:13:19,027 --> 01:13:20,062
OF TRYING TO ADJUST THE ISSUES 

1872
01:13:20,062 --> 01:13:22,898
THAT WE HAVE IN NORTH AURORA AND

1873
01:13:22,898 --> 01:13:24,566
DISTRICT FIVE OVER IN WEST 

1874
01:13:24,566 --> 01:13:26,435
SEATTLE AND DISTRICT ONE, YOU 

1875
01:13:26,435 --> 01:13:27,970
KNOW, LITTLE SAIGON, NORTH 

1876
01:13:27,970 --> 01:13:30,372
BEACON HILL AND DISTRICT TWO. SO

1877
01:13:30,372 --> 01:13:31,306
WE CAN LOOK AWAY FROM THIS. BUT 

1878
01:13:31,306 --> 01:13:32,875
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 

1879
01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:33,876
HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE AT THE END OF 

1880
01:13:33,876 --> 01:13:39,815
THE DAY, THIS IS A FUNDING OF 

1881
01:13:39,815 --> 01:13:41,550
PUBLIC SAFETY AS OPPOSED TO WHAT

1882
01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:45,521
WE HAD HALF A DECADE AGO WITH 

1883
01:13:45,521 --> 01:13:46,155
THE DEFUND MOVEMENT. BASICALLY, 

1884
01:13:46,155 --> 01:13:47,389
IT'S A CONSCIOUS UNDERFUNDING 

1885
01:13:47,389 --> 01:13:49,124
OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE 

1886
01:13:49,124 --> 01:13:51,593
RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AND 

1887
01:13:51,593 --> 01:13:53,529
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE MAJOR 

1888
01:13:53,529 --> 01:13:57,166
IMPACTS. COLLEAGUES. MR. DOSS, 

1889
01:13:57,166 --> 01:13:58,767
CAN YOU SPEAK? I THINK YOU'VE 

1890
01:13:58,767 --> 01:14:01,436
PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSED THIS, BUT,

1891
01:14:01,436 --> 01:14:03,005
YOU KNOW, IN YOUR COUNCILMEMBER.

1892
01:14:03,005 --> 01:14:04,006
GREAT BRIEFING. THANK YOU VERY 

1893
01:14:04,006 --> 01:14:06,542
MUCH. AND ALSO IN THE 

1894
01:14:06,542 --> 01:14:09,378
COUNCILMEMBER MEMBER MEMO ON 

1895
01:14:09,378 --> 01:14:11,880
PAGE SEVEN, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, 

1896
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,282
FIGURE FOUR SHOWS THAT WITHOUT 

1897
01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:13,916
FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL NET NEW 

1898
01:14:13,916 --> 01:14:15,284
HIRE, SWORN STAFF WILL 

1899
01:14:15,284 --> 01:14:17,453
EVENTUALLY PLATEAU AT 1174. 

1900
01:14:17,453 --> 01:14:19,388
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS AND 1125 

1901
01:14:19,388 --> 01:14:21,690
DEPLOYABLE ONES. CAN YOU SPEAK 

1902
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:23,058
TO THAT 

1903
01:14:23,058 --> 01:14:26,428
-- YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 

1904
01:14:26,428 --> 01:14:28,096
SO AS I MENTIONED, THE THE 

1905
01:14:28,096 --> 01:14:29,998
THERE'S A BIT OF A PARADIGM 

1906
01:14:29,998 --> 01:14:32,067
SHIFT GOING ON WITH SWORN 

1907
01:14:32,067 --> 01:14:34,703
STAFFING AND BUDGETING AND THE, 

1908
01:14:34,703 --> 01:14:37,706
AS THIS CHART INDICATES, THIS 

1909
01:14:37,706 --> 01:14:42,044
THESE PROJECTIONS HERE, BOTH IN 

1910
01:14:42,044 --> 01:14:44,780
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS AND 

1911
01:14:44,780 --> 01:14:46,248
DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS ARE WHAT CAN

1912
01:14:46,248 --> 01:14:52,621
BE PURCHASED FOR WITH THE 1250 

1913
01:14:52,621 --> 01:14:57,359
1250 FTE AND WHAT YOU SEE WITH 

1914
01:14:57,359 --> 01:14:59,828
CONTINUED FUNDING AT 1250 IS 

1915
01:14:59,828 --> 01:15:01,697
SORT OF THE PLATEAU IN THE LAST 

1916
01:15:01,697 --> 01:15:03,465
THREE YEARS, 28 THROUGH 30, 

1917
01:15:03,465 --> 01:15:09,171
WHERE YOU HAVE 1174 TRAINED 

1918
01:15:09,171 --> 01:15:12,007
OFFICERS AND 1125 DEPLOYABLE 

1919
01:15:12,007 --> 01:15:13,275
OFFICERS. AGAIN, THE REASON 

1920
01:15:13,275 --> 01:15:16,979
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 1250 IS

1921
01:15:16,979 --> 01:15:18,280
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A COUNT OF 

1922
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,015
OFFICERS, THAT IS FUNDING AND 

1923
01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:23,585
THAT IS FUNDING. THAT INCLUDES 

1924
01:15:23,585 --> 01:15:24,987
MONEY FOR RECRUITS. SO YEAH. 

1925
01:15:24,987 --> 01:15:26,288
-- SO WHEN THE BUDGET IS ROLLED 

1926
01:15:26,288 --> 01:15:28,023
OUT ON A TUESDAY AFTER OUR 

1927
01:15:28,023 --> 01:15:29,658
MEETING, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE

1928
01:15:29,658 --> 01:15:30,993
MEETING THAT MORNING, AND IT'S 

1929
01:15:30,993 --> 01:15:32,594
ANNOUNCED 1250, WE'RE 

1930
01:15:32,594 --> 01:15:34,596
INCREASING, THERE'S A CERTAIN 

1931
01:15:34,596 --> 01:15:36,064
IMPRESSION THAT IS MADE. BUT AS 

1932
01:15:36,064 --> 01:15:37,633
SEEN IN THIS BRIEFING AND WHAT 

1933
01:15:37,633 --> 01:15:40,869
YOU JUST SAID, 1250 IS NOT 1250 

1934
01:15:40,869 --> 01:15:42,337
IN TERMS OF ON THE GROUND 

1935
01:15:42,337 --> 01:15:43,972
HELPING US, HELPING OUR 

1936
01:15:43,972 --> 01:15:44,539
NEIGHBORHOODS, HELPING OUR 

1937
01:15:44,539 --> 01:15:47,309
NEIGHBORS. IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S

1938
01:15:47,309 --> 01:15:48,677
MORE OF A AS USED, IT'S MORE OF

1939
01:15:48,677 --> 01:15:50,946
A PR NUMBER. I WOULD SAY IT'S 

1940
01:15:50,946 --> 01:15:52,848
NOT IN TERMS OF ON THE GROUND 

1941
01:15:52,848 --> 01:15:55,717
IMPACT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. 

1942
01:15:55,717 --> 01:15:58,987
ANOTHER AREA IS OVERTIME. AND 

1943
01:15:58,987 --> 01:16:02,324
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING TO THAT. 

1944
01:16:02,324 --> 01:16:03,825
I BELIEVE IN LOOKING AT THIS AND

1945
01:16:03,825 --> 01:16:06,995
IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH 

1946
01:16:06,995 --> 01:16:07,563
DIFFERENT PEOPLE OVER TIME 

1947
01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:10,565
IMPACTS POLICING DECISIONS. I 

1948
01:16:10,565 --> 01:16:11,133
THINK WE SAW IN THE BIT OF 

1949
01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:13,702
SEATTLE. IN FACT, AND, YOU KNOW,

1950
01:16:13,702 --> 01:16:15,304
HOW DOES THIS PLAY IN TERMS OF, 

1951
01:16:15,304 --> 01:16:18,240
YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR THE 

1952
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,311
THE DEPARTMENT TO REALLY AFFECT 

1953
01:16:22,311 --> 01:16:22,945
ITS POLICING? YOU KNOW, YOU TALK

1954
01:16:22,945 --> 01:16:25,080
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER 

1955
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,515
SHORTAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF

1956
01:16:26,515 --> 01:16:27,883
INTERPLAY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE

1957
01:16:27,883 --> 01:16:29,451
STAFFING AND THE OVERTIME USE. 

1958
01:16:29,451 --> 01:16:32,254
AND WE'LL SEE THIS IN FIRE AS 

1959
01:16:32,254 --> 01:16:32,454
WELL. 

1960
01:16:32,454 --> 01:16:34,990
-- YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 

1961
01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:40,162
THE OVERTIME IS IS OBVIOUSLY 

1962
01:16:40,162 --> 01:16:42,297
USED AT A DEPARTMENT WIDE LEVEL 

1963
01:16:42,297 --> 01:16:43,031
FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN. 

1964
01:16:43,031 --> 01:16:45,634
YOU CAN THINK OF, YOU KNOW, 

1965
01:16:45,634 --> 01:16:47,502
WHETHER IT BE A CRIMINAL 

1966
01:16:47,502 --> 01:16:48,904
INVESTIGATION OR EXTRA HOURS 

1967
01:16:48,904 --> 01:16:49,972
TACKED ON TO THE END OF A SHIFT 

1968
01:16:49,972 --> 01:16:51,840
FOR AN OFFICER TO TO TAKE 

1969
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,508
SOMEONE TO THE HOSPITAL OR TAKE 

1970
01:16:53,508 --> 01:16:56,378
SOMEONE TO, TO JAIL OR FILL OUT 

1971
01:16:56,378 --> 01:16:57,512
PAPERWORK. OVERTIME IS IS USED 

1972
01:16:57,512 --> 01:16:59,481
IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 

1973
01:16:59,481 --> 01:17:03,652
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT THERE ARE

1974
01:17:03,652 --> 01:17:04,286
FOUR BIG CATEGORIES OF OVERTIME,

1975
01:17:04,286 --> 01:17:07,255
AND BY FAR THE TWO LARGEST 

1976
01:17:07,255 --> 01:17:07,889
CATEGORIES OF OVERTIME ARE USE 

1977
01:17:07,889 --> 01:17:12,027
FOR EVENTS, WHICH IS TYPICALLY 

1978
01:17:12,027 --> 01:17:14,796
THE LARGEST OVERTIME CATEGORY 

1979
01:17:14,796 --> 01:17:16,798
AND USE FOR PATROL AUGMENTATION.

1980
01:17:16,798 --> 01:17:19,334
AND SO PATROL AUGMENTATION IS 

1981
01:17:19,334 --> 01:17:22,137
WHEN A SUPERVISOR, A SERGEANT IN

1982
01:17:22,137 --> 01:17:24,306
IN A PRECINCT KNOWS THE NUMBER 

1983
01:17:24,306 --> 01:17:25,807
OF OFFICERS THAT ARE COMING IN 

1984
01:17:25,807 --> 01:17:28,844
FOR A GIVEN DAY ARE GOING TO BE 

1985
01:17:28,844 --> 01:17:31,446
TOO FEW TO RESPOND TO 911 CALLS 

1986
01:17:31,446 --> 01:17:33,448
AND TO PROVIDE SERVICE. THEY 

1987
01:17:33,448 --> 01:17:36,418
WILL BRING IN ON OVERTIME, EXTRA

1988
01:17:36,418 --> 01:17:37,786
OFFICERS TO HELP. THAT IS 

1989
01:17:37,786 --> 01:17:39,621
SOMETHING THAT IS DONE EVERY 

1990
01:17:39,621 --> 01:17:41,957
SINGLE DAY IN EVERY SINGLE 

1991
01:17:41,957 --> 01:17:43,525
PRECINCT. AT THE CURRENT 

1992
01:17:43,525 --> 01:17:47,262
STAFFING LEVEL. SO THAT IS 

1993
01:17:47,262 --> 01:17:48,597
ANOTHER BIG ITEM. THEN AT A 

1994
01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:50,065
LESSER LEVEL, TRAINING IS ALWAYS

1995
01:17:50,065 --> 01:17:55,504
A BIG ITEM FOR SPD. IT'S THE 

1996
01:17:55,504 --> 01:17:56,772
CASE THAT OFFICERS NEED TO BE 

1997
01:17:56,772 --> 01:17:58,273
BROUGHT IN ON OVERTIME TO DO 

1998
01:17:58,273 --> 01:17:58,774
THEIR TRAINING, BECAUSE 

1999
01:17:58,774 --> 01:17:59,541
OTHERWISE YOU'RE TAKING THEM 

2000
01:17:59,541 --> 01:18:00,776
OFF THE STREET OR OUT OF DOING 

2001
01:18:00,776 --> 01:18:01,977
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, OR OUT 

2002
01:18:01,977 --> 01:18:05,914
OF DOING OTHER WORK. IF YOU IF 

2003
01:18:05,914 --> 01:18:07,315
YOU PUT THEM ON OVERTIME, WHEN 

2004
01:18:07,315 --> 01:18:08,250
THEY'RE DOING THEIR TRAINING, 

2005
01:18:08,250 --> 01:18:10,519
IT IT DOESN'T IMPACT WORKLOAD. 

2006
01:18:10,519 --> 01:18:11,820
AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG ONE.

2007
01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:14,456
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS JUST 

2008
01:18:14,456 --> 01:18:17,292
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. YOU SEE

2009
01:18:17,292 --> 01:18:20,362
A LARGE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME USE 

2010
01:18:20,362 --> 01:18:20,996
THERE FOR THINGS LIKE RESPONDING

2011
01:18:20,996 --> 01:18:22,364
TO VIOLENT CRIME, SHOOTING 

2012
01:18:22,364 --> 01:18:23,632
DETECTIVES GOING OUT AND 

2013
01:18:23,632 --> 01:18:26,201
RESPONDING TO SCENES THAT 

2014
01:18:26,201 --> 01:18:26,835
OBVIOUSLY HAPPENING AFTER HOURS 

2015
01:18:26,835 --> 01:18:29,971
AND HAPPENING ON OVERTIME. SO 

2016
01:18:29,971 --> 01:18:33,408
THOSE ARE SORT OF THE THE FOUR. 

2017
01:18:33,408 --> 01:18:35,343
BIG AREAS THAT OVERTIME IS USED 

2018
01:18:35,343 --> 01:18:37,946
IN TERMS OF PULLING POLICY 

2019
01:18:37,946 --> 01:18:39,448
LEVERS WITH EVENTS. TALKED A 

2020
01:18:39,448 --> 01:18:42,617
LITTLE BIT ABOUT PEOS WITH 

2021
01:18:42,617 --> 01:18:44,886
AUGMENTATION, TALKED ABOUT 

2022
01:18:44,886 --> 01:18:46,655
ADDING OFFICERS TO PATROL, AND 

2023
01:18:46,655 --> 01:18:47,155
ENSURING THAT PATROL IS 

2024
01:18:47,155 --> 01:18:48,557
SUPPLEMENTED. THOSE THINGS WOULD

2025
01:18:48,557 --> 01:18:50,325
WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME 

2026
01:18:50,325 --> 01:18:53,161
OVERTIME USE. WOULD THEY SOLVE 

2027
01:18:53,161 --> 01:18:56,965
AN OVERTIME PROBLEM IF IF WE'RE

2028
01:18:56,965 --> 01:19:01,336
TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET TO 

2029
01:19:01,336 --> 01:19:04,206
BUDGET, TO SPENDING. IT'S HARD 

2030
01:19:04,206 --> 01:19:05,640
TO KNOW AS YOU ADD MORE 

2031
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,443
OFFICERS, AN OFFICER WILL, WILL,

2032
01:19:08,443 --> 01:19:11,346
WILL NEED, AS I SAY, SOME TIME 

2033
01:19:11,346 --> 01:19:13,582
TO OVERTIME TO EXTEND THEIR 

2034
01:19:13,582 --> 01:19:15,884
SHIFT. SO ADDING OFFICERS IS NOT

2035
01:19:15,884 --> 01:19:17,452
A PANACEA FOR REDUCING OVERTIME.

2036
01:19:17,452 --> 01:19:21,857
IT DOES HELP. HOPEFULLY I'VE 

2037
01:19:21,857 --> 01:19:22,958
ADDRESSED IN. IN RESPONSE. YOUR 

2038
01:19:22,958 --> 01:19:23,225
QUESTION. 

2039
01:19:23,225 --> 01:19:24,326
-- AND YOU HIGHLIGHT THE EVENTS 

2040
01:19:24,326 --> 01:19:25,327
PIECE. THAT GOES TO MY POINT 

2041
01:19:25,327 --> 01:19:28,029
ABOUT BY THE SEATTLE AND. AND 

2042
01:19:28,029 --> 01:19:30,866
THE NEED, BY THE WAY, FOR US AND

2043
01:19:30,866 --> 01:19:33,001
WORKING WITH THE EXECUTIVE TO 

2044
01:19:33,001 --> 01:19:34,970
WORK A PLAN TO RELATING TO MAJOR

2045
01:19:34,970 --> 01:19:35,804
VENUES AND MAJOR EVENTS. THIS 

2046
01:19:35,804 --> 01:19:37,739
GOES TO GUN VIOLENCE, BUT ACROSS

2047
01:19:37,739 --> 01:19:38,340
THE BOARD, WE NEED TO HAVE A 

2048
01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:40,075
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THAT. 

2049
01:19:40,075 --> 01:19:42,077
AND I'M LOOKING TO WORK WITH 

2050
01:19:42,077 --> 01:19:43,945
THE EXECUTIVE ON THAT. SPEAKING 

2051
01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:47,949
OF OVERTIME, REAL TIME CRIME 

2052
01:19:47,949 --> 01:19:48,984
CENTER. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO REAL

2053
01:19:48,984 --> 01:19:51,486
TIME CRIME CENTER IS SO 

2054
01:19:51,486 --> 01:19:52,087
UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE THE REAL 

2055
01:19:52,087 --> 01:19:53,321
TIME CRIME CENTER HELPS OUR 

2056
01:19:53,321 --> 01:19:56,758
OFFICERS BE BETTER OFFICERS AND 

2057
01:19:56,758 --> 01:19:59,027
DO POLICING BETTER. BUT WE'VE 

2058
01:19:59,027 --> 01:20:00,061
UNDERMINED THAT. YOU KNOW, THE 

2059
01:20:00,061 --> 01:20:01,630
BUDGET LAW FROM LAST YEAR SAID 

2060
01:20:01,630 --> 01:20:03,365
THOSE POSITIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN

2061
01:20:03,365 --> 01:20:05,100
FILLED. THEY WEREN'T. AND NOW 

2062
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,635
WE'RE OH, WE'RE GOING TO CUT 

2063
01:20:06,635 --> 01:20:08,970
THE THREE, BUT WE CAN GO 24/7. 

2064
01:20:08,970 --> 01:20:11,139
MR.. DOS, YOU SAID THEY SAY THEY

2065
01:20:11,139 --> 01:20:13,008
SAY, WELL, FIRST, BY THE WAY, 

2066
01:20:13,008 --> 01:20:15,343
YOU SAID DEFUND. AGAIN, THIS IS 

2067
01:20:15,343 --> 01:20:15,944
ANOTHER UNFUNDED ELEMENT HERE 

2068
01:20:15,944 --> 01:20:17,879
THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. THEY SAY 

2069
01:20:17,879 --> 01:20:19,447
THEY SAY FROM THE EXECUTIVE WE 

2070
01:20:19,447 --> 01:20:23,919
CAN GO 24/7. WELL, THE THEY SAY 

2071
01:20:23,919 --> 01:20:24,586
THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO SAYS THAT, 

2072
01:20:24,586 --> 01:20:26,521
YES, WE CAN GO 24/7. FUNNY 

2073
01:20:26,521 --> 01:20:30,659
ENOUGH, IF WE USE OVERTIME, THIS

2074
01:20:30,659 --> 01:20:31,927
IS JUST LIKE FIRE. AND WHAT 

2075
01:20:31,927 --> 01:20:34,496
WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS. SO 

2076
01:20:34,496 --> 01:20:36,631
THE ABILITY TO GO 24/7 PROPERLY 

2077
01:20:36,631 --> 01:20:38,733
IN THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, 

2078
01:20:38,733 --> 01:20:40,769
THEY SAY, IS GOING TO REQUIRE 

2079
01:20:40,769 --> 01:20:43,205
OVERTIME. AND SO THIS IS IRONIC 

2080
01:20:43,205 --> 01:20:44,739
GIVEN HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE 

2081
01:20:44,739 --> 01:20:45,807
AWAY FROM OVERTIME AND THE 

2082
01:20:45,807 --> 01:20:47,209
ISSUES OF OVERTIME AND CUT 

2083
01:20:47,209 --> 01:20:49,411
OVERTIME. EXCUSE ME. UNFUND 

2084
01:20:49,411 --> 01:20:50,345
OVERTIME. AND THIS IS 

2085
01:20:50,345 --> 01:20:56,051
PROBLEMATIC AND COLLEAGUES, 

2086
01:20:56,051 --> 01:20:56,718
IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE

2087
01:20:56,718 --> 01:20:58,286
HAVEN'T STOOD UP PROPERLY OUR 

2088
01:20:58,286 --> 01:21:00,522
REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, BECAUSE 

2089
01:21:00,522 --> 01:21:02,757
IT DOES LEAD TO BETTER POLICING 

2090
01:21:02,757 --> 01:21:04,960
AND MORE EFFECTIVE POLICING AND 

2091
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,661
HELPS ACROSS THE BOARD AND IN 

2092
01:21:06,661 --> 01:21:08,430
PARTNERSHIP, LIKE WITH THE 

2093
01:21:08,430 --> 01:21:10,232
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BUREAU, 

2094
01:21:10,232 --> 01:21:12,467
CAN HELP US ADDRESS GUN 

2095
01:21:12,467 --> 01:21:15,637
VIOLENCE. BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN 

2096
01:21:15,637 --> 01:21:16,471
WITH THE UNFUNDED. I'M GOING TO

2097
01:21:16,471 --> 01:21:17,739
JUST CHAIR. I'M JUST GOING TO 

2098
01:21:17,739 --> 01:21:19,941
END ON TWO THINGS. ONE, PARKING 

2099
01:21:19,941 --> 01:21:20,809
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. WHEN CHIEF

2100
01:21:20,809 --> 01:21:22,177
SAYLES WAS HERE, I TOLD HIM, I 

2101
01:21:22,177 --> 01:21:23,345
GO, YOU'RE MY FOURTH POLICE 

2102
01:21:23,345 --> 01:21:24,679
CHIEF. I'M ONLY NOT EVEN THREE 

2103
01:21:24,679 --> 01:21:26,781
YEARS IN. YOU'RE MY FOURTH 

2104
01:21:26,781 --> 01:21:28,617
POLICE CHIEF. AND TO BE FRANK, 

2105
01:21:28,617 --> 01:21:30,051
THE POLICE CHIEF'S PARTLY FOR 

2106
01:21:30,051 --> 01:21:31,886
THE REASON THAT YOU HAVEN'T 

2107
01:21:31,886 --> 01:21:32,454
REALLY CARED ABOUT PARKING 

2108
01:21:32,454 --> 01:21:34,723
ENFORCEMENT YOU KNOW, THE 

2109
01:21:34,723 --> 01:21:35,290
LEADERSHIP PIECE RELATED TO 

2110
01:21:35,290 --> 01:21:36,424
PARKING ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN 

2111
01:21:36,424 --> 01:21:38,393
LACKING. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT 

2112
01:21:38,393 --> 01:21:39,995
DYNAMICS. AND THIS IS ANOTHER 

2113
01:21:39,995 --> 01:21:41,062
UNFORTUNATE THING FROM A BUDGET 

2114
01:21:41,062 --> 01:21:43,331
PERSPECTIVE. AS YOU SAID, THE 

2115
01:21:43,331 --> 01:21:45,333
ANTICIPATION OF WHAT EACH 

2116
01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:47,869
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER 

2117
01:21:47,869 --> 01:21:49,404
WOULD BRING IN. BUT IT'S REALLY

2118
01:21:49,404 --> 01:21:50,438
IMPORTANT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF 

2119
01:21:50,438 --> 01:21:51,239
THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THEIR 

2120
01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:52,240
JOB, IT'S KIND OF LIKE GETTING 

2121
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,309
A CLEAN, YOU KNOW, START 

2122
01:21:54,309 --> 01:21:54,976
SWEEPING THE ROADS. AND, YOU 

2123
01:21:54,976 --> 01:21:56,912
KNOW, IT'S ABOUT GOVERNMENT 

2124
01:21:56,912 --> 01:21:58,213
DOING THE BASICS, WHICH IS WHAT 

2125
01:21:58,213 --> 01:22:00,615
THESE PEOPLE SEATTLE WANT. AND 

2126
01:22:00,615 --> 01:22:01,883
ACTUALLY, IF THEY'RE GIVING 

2127
01:22:01,883 --> 01:22:02,651
PARKING TICKETS OR, YOU KNOW, 

2128
01:22:02,651 --> 01:22:04,853
YOU DIDN'T HAVE UPDATED TABS 

2129
01:22:04,853 --> 01:22:06,154
THAT WOULD VIEW THAT CITY 

2130
01:22:06,154 --> 01:22:07,555
GOVERNMENT'S WORKING. BUT THIS 

2131
01:22:07,555 --> 01:22:08,423
IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE IT KIND OF

2132
01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:11,226
SHOWS THAT IT'S NOT. AND HERE'S

2133
01:22:11,226 --> 01:22:12,060
THE SAD THING IS LAST NIGHT I'M

2134
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:13,728
AT A COMMUNITY EVENT RELATED TO 

2135
01:22:13,728 --> 01:22:15,930
PORTAL PARK AND BELLTOWN, AND A 

2136
01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:17,899
YOUNG MAN COMES UP TO ME 

2137
01:22:17,899 --> 01:22:18,433
AFTERWARDS TALKING ABOUT 

2138
01:22:18,433 --> 01:22:19,100
DIFFERENT THINGS. AND HE SAYS, 

2139
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:22,003
YOU KNOW, I TRY TO BECOME A 

2140
01:22:22,003 --> 01:22:22,971
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. AND

2141
01:22:22,971 --> 01:22:23,738
HE STRIKE ME AS A, YOU KNOW, 

2142
01:22:23,738 --> 01:22:26,474
SQUARED AWAY PERSON, BUT HE 

2143
01:22:26,474 --> 01:22:28,176
DIDN'T WANT TO CARRY A GUN. HE 

2144
01:22:28,176 --> 01:22:28,843
WASN'T HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO 

2145
01:22:28,843 --> 01:22:30,111
THAT, BUT HE WANTED TO 

2146
01:22:30,111 --> 01:22:31,279
CONTRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY 

2147
01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:32,147
ELEMENT. HE GOES, OH, MAYBE I 

2148
01:22:32,147 --> 01:22:34,015
CAN BE A PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

2149
01:22:34,015 --> 01:22:35,884
OFFICER, WHICH HELPS NOT JUST 

2150
01:22:35,884 --> 01:22:37,385
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT 

2151
01:22:37,385 --> 01:22:39,654
ALSO, AS YOU NOTED, MR. DOSS 

2152
01:22:39,654 --> 01:22:41,623
HELPING OUT THE FORCE TO 

2153
01:22:41,623 --> 01:22:42,257
ALLEVIATE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF 

2154
01:22:42,257 --> 01:22:43,058
THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRESSURES 

2155
01:22:43,058 --> 01:22:45,694
THAT THEY FEEL AND THEY TOLD 

2156
01:22:45,694 --> 01:22:50,432
THEM BASICALLY, GO HOME. SO I'VE

2157
01:22:50,432 --> 01:22:51,066
ASKED THAT INDIVIDUAL TO SEND ME

2158
01:22:51,066 --> 01:22:52,934
AN EMAIL, AND I'M GOING TO 

2159
01:22:52,934 --> 01:22:55,737
FORWARD IT TO THE EXECUTIVE AND 

2160
01:22:55,737 --> 01:22:58,573
SAY, EXPLAIN THIS TO ME, 

2161
01:22:58,573 --> 01:22:59,841
PARTICULARLY GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE 

2162
01:22:59,841 --> 01:23:00,909
IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS OF 

2163
01:23:00,909 --> 01:23:01,643
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. WE

2164
01:23:01,643 --> 01:23:04,412
HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO I'VE SEEN

2165
01:23:04,412 --> 01:23:06,381
IN MULTIPLE BELLTOWN COMMUNITY 

2166
01:23:06,381 --> 01:23:08,984
EVENTS SQUARED AWAY. SMART GUY, 

2167
01:23:08,984 --> 01:23:10,352
KIND OF QUIET, BUT HE'S LOOKING

2168
01:23:10,352 --> 01:23:12,420
TO HELP OUR CITY AND HE'S TOLD 

2169
01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:15,290
TO GO AWAY. AND I'M JUST LIKE, 

2170
01:23:15,290 --> 01:23:16,257
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE 

2171
01:23:16,257 --> 01:23:17,659
NEED TO ADDRESS. AND YOUR 

2172
01:23:17,659 --> 01:23:19,060
BRIEFING KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS 

2173
01:23:19,060 --> 01:23:20,628
THAT. SO COLLEAGUES, THERE'S 

2174
01:23:20,628 --> 01:23:21,696
OTHER AREAS, BUT I KNOW MY 

2175
01:23:21,696 --> 01:23:23,565
COLLEAGUES WANT TO SPEAK TO DIE 

2176
01:23:23,565 --> 01:23:25,233
30 BY 30 AND SOME OF THESE OTHER

2177
01:23:25,233 --> 01:23:29,003
ISSUES, CHAIR, BUT I JUST WANT 

2178
01:23:29,003 --> 01:23:30,538
TO REITERATE, WHEN WE CAME IN 

2179
01:23:30,538 --> 01:23:32,707
24, WE CHANGED THINGS AROUND THE

2180
01:23:32,707 --> 01:23:34,976
NUMBER OF OFFICERS, THE NUMBER 

2181
01:23:34,976 --> 01:23:36,845
OF APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW, THE 

2182
01:23:36,845 --> 01:23:38,279
CANDIDATES ARE INCREASING. OUR 

2183
01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:40,382
SPD STAFFING WAS TAKEN OFF 

2184
01:23:40,382 --> 01:23:42,384
BUDGETARY NUMBERS WISE. WE WERE 

2185
01:23:42,384 --> 01:23:43,952
USING 1184 WITH THE GOALS OF 

2186
01:23:43,952 --> 01:23:46,421
1258 IN ROUTE TO 1400 PLUS. BUT 

2187
01:23:46,421 --> 01:23:49,824
NOW WITH THIS NEW BILL, WE'RE 

2188
01:23:49,824 --> 01:23:52,260
NOT TAKING OFF ANYMORE. WE'RE 

2189
01:23:52,260 --> 01:23:54,062
LANDING. AND AS THE BRIEFING 

2190
01:23:54,062 --> 01:23:56,064
SHOWS, THE 1250 NUMBERS, NOT THE

2191
01:23:56,064 --> 01:23:59,534
1250 NUMBER, WE'RE GOING TO 

2192
01:23:59,534 --> 01:24:01,036
LAND SHORT. AND THAT CRASH 

2193
01:24:01,036 --> 01:24:02,871
LANDING IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR 

2194
01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:05,340
PUBLIC SAFETY POSTURE. AND IT'S

2195
01:24:05,340 --> 01:24:06,708
UNFORTUNATE. BUT HERE WE ARE. 

2196
01:24:06,708 --> 01:24:07,876
THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

2197
01:24:07,876 --> 01:24:08,977
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2198
01:24:08,977 --> 01:24:09,944
KETTLE TO THE COMMITTEE TABLE. 

2199
01:24:09,944 --> 01:24:11,513
ANYTHING TO SHARE AT THIS TIME? 

2200
01:24:11,513 --> 01:24:14,716
-- I JUST WANTED TO SAY I 

2201
01:24:14,716 --> 01:24:16,317
APOLOGIZE IF I USE THE WORD 

2202
01:24:16,317 --> 01:24:20,722
DEFUND AND I ALSO NEED TO 

2203
01:24:20,722 --> 01:24:22,157
APOLOGIZE WHEN I SAY THAT CBO IS

2204
01:24:22,157 --> 01:24:24,559
MAKING CUTS. THESE ARE POLICY 

2205
01:24:24,559 --> 01:24:26,327
DECISIONS THAT ARE ARE MADE BY 

2206
01:24:26,327 --> 01:24:28,296
THE EXECUTIVE. CBO JUST 

2207
01:24:28,296 --> 01:24:31,633
IMPLEMENTS THE CUTS. SO BEING A 

2208
01:24:31,633 --> 01:24:32,934
FORMER CBO OR I TEND TO THINK 

2209
01:24:32,934 --> 01:24:34,869
THAT WAY. BUT BUT I WANT TO BE 

2210
01:24:34,869 --> 01:24:36,104
CLEAR THAT IS NOT THAT IS NOT 

2211
01:24:36,104 --> 01:24:38,306
THE BUDGET OFFICE'S FUNCTION. 

2212
01:24:38,306 --> 01:24:39,240
-- AND I AGREE. THAT'S HOW I 

2213
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,074
STARTED OFF. I JUST WANTED TO 

2214
01:24:40,074 --> 01:24:42,143
MAKE THAT POINT. THANK YOU. 

2215
01:24:42,143 --> 01:24:43,912
-- THAT'S ALL. THAT'S WHY WE 

2216
01:24:43,912 --> 01:24:47,782
REALLY LIKE DIRECTOR PANUCCI 

2217
01:24:47,782 --> 01:24:49,184
WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER

2218
01:24:49,184 --> 01:24:50,485
QUESTIONS? I SEE NO OTHER HANDS.

2219
01:24:50,485 --> 01:24:52,053
MAYBE THAT'S THE END. WE'LL BE

2220
01:24:52,053 --> 01:24:56,991
GOING TO LUNCH IF NO FURTHER. 

2221
01:24:56,991 --> 01:24:57,992
OH. VICE CHAIR RIVERA, I SEE 

2222
01:24:57,992 --> 01:24:59,561
YOUR HAND, COLLEAGUES, IF YOU 

2223
01:24:59,561 --> 01:25:01,129
CAN. IF YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK, 

2224
01:25:01,129 --> 01:25:02,363
JUST THROW YOUR HANDS UP NOW SO 

2225
01:25:02,363 --> 01:25:04,666
WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

2226
01:25:04,666 --> 01:25:08,002
THANK YOU. OVER TO YOU, VICE 

2227
01:25:08,002 --> 01:25:08,236
CHAIR. 

2228
01:25:08,236 --> 01:25:09,838
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK. 

2229
01:25:09,838 --> 01:25:14,576
THANK YOU, GREG, FOR YOUR REALLY

2230
01:25:14,576 --> 01:25:17,645
THOROUGH PRESENTATION. I REALLY 

2231
01:25:17,645 --> 01:25:19,447
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS 

2232
01:25:19,447 --> 01:25:22,450
AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY 

2233
01:25:22,450 --> 01:25:23,885
APPRECIATE YOUR OBJECTIVITY. 

2234
01:25:23,885 --> 01:25:25,520
ALSO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO 

2235
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,991
LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THIS 

2236
01:25:29,991 --> 01:25:32,560
OBJECTIVE MANNER. I BELIEVE WHEN

2237
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,864
YOU'RE PRESENTING THE 

2238
01:25:35,864 --> 01:25:37,966
INFORMATION AND I TO UNDERSTAND 

2239
01:25:37,966 --> 01:25:39,067
THAT CBO HAVING I DIDN'T WORK AT

2240
01:25:39,067 --> 01:25:41,002
CBO, BUT I'VE WORKED ALONGSIDE 

2241
01:25:41,002 --> 01:25:43,271
CBO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I 

2242
01:25:43,271 --> 01:25:45,406
UNDERSTAND THAT THESE DECISIONS 

2243
01:25:45,406 --> 01:25:47,275
ARE THE EXECUTIVE'S DECISIONS, 

2244
01:25:47,275 --> 01:25:49,344
JUST LIKE CENTRAL STAFF HELP 

2245
01:25:49,344 --> 01:25:49,844
SUPPORT COUNSEL AND OUR 

2246
01:25:49,844 --> 01:25:51,279
DECISIONS ARE OURS, NOT CENTRAL 

2247
01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:54,315
STAFF. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE 

2248
01:25:54,315 --> 01:25:56,117
HAVING REALLY SMART, THOUGHTFUL 

2249
01:25:56,117 --> 01:25:57,085
PEOPLE THAT HELP US DO THE WORK 

2250
01:25:57,085 --> 01:25:59,721
THAT WE DO. WE CAN'T DO THE 

2251
01:25:59,721 --> 01:26:02,357
WORK WITH EITHER CBO OR CENTRAL 

2252
01:26:02,357 --> 01:26:04,893
STAFF. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK 

2253
01:26:04,893 --> 01:26:06,094
YOU PUBLICLY FOR ALL THE WORK 

2254
01:26:06,094 --> 01:26:08,296
THAT THAT CBO AND CENTRAL STAFF 

2255
01:26:08,296 --> 01:26:10,498
DOES IN GENERAL FOR THE CITY OF 

2256
01:26:10,498 --> 01:26:12,734
SEATTLE. OKAY. 

2257
01:26:12,734 --> 01:26:13,301
-- THAT MICROPHONE CLOSER. 

2258
01:26:13,301 --> 01:26:17,272
-- OH OKAY. AT A ROCK CONCERT, I

2259
01:26:17,272 --> 01:26:21,075
REMEMBER. THANK YOU. SO I JUST 

2260
01:26:21,075 --> 01:26:24,045
WANTED TO MAKE A FEW NOTES HERE.

2261
01:26:24,045 --> 01:26:30,618
FIRST OFF, IT'S JUST. IT'S 

2262
01:26:30,618 --> 01:26:32,120
REALLY CONCERNING. AND AGAIN, I,

2263
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,989
I WAS IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IN 

2264
01:26:34,989 --> 01:26:36,491
2020 AND WE ALL LIVED THROUGH 

2265
01:26:36,491 --> 01:26:37,725
2020 TOGETHER. NO MATTER WHERE 

2266
01:26:37,725 --> 01:26:40,295
YOU WERE IN THE CITY, BUT THE 

2267
01:26:40,295 --> 01:26:44,532
IDEA THAT THIS BUDGET IS GETTING

2268
01:26:44,532 --> 01:26:46,401
CAPPED AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT SO 

2269
01:26:46,401 --> 01:26:50,505
THAT TEN YEARS LATER, FROM 2020 

2270
01:26:50,505 --> 01:26:55,143
TO 2030, WHAT WE WILL BE GOING 

2271
01:26:55,143 --> 01:26:57,745
FROM DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS, 1281 

2272
01:26:57,745 --> 01:27:00,815
FROM IN 2019, AND THEN THE MOST 

2273
01:27:00,815 --> 01:27:03,751
IN 2030 WOULD BE 1125. SO THAT 

2274
01:27:03,751 --> 01:27:05,220
IN TEN YEARS, WE HAVEN'T 

2275
01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:07,355
RECOUPED THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS 

2276
01:27:07,355 --> 01:27:11,492
THOUGH WE'VE ADDED AT LEAST 

2277
01:27:11,492 --> 01:27:14,195
75,000 MORE PEOPLE TO THE CITY. 

2278
01:27:14,195 --> 01:27:16,364
SO I JUST THINK THAT'S OF 

2279
01:27:16,364 --> 01:27:19,267
CONCERN BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS, WHEN

2280
01:27:19,267 --> 01:27:20,802
CONSTITUENTS CALL US AND THEY, 

2281
01:27:20,802 --> 01:27:22,704
YOU KNOW, TELL US, YOU KNOW, WE 

2282
01:27:22,704 --> 01:27:25,373
CALL 911, THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP. 

2283
01:27:25,373 --> 01:27:27,208
AND, AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE

2284
01:27:27,208 --> 01:27:30,612
LEVEL OF OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO 

2285
01:27:30,612 --> 01:27:31,145
ADDRESS OUR CONSTITUENTS 

2286
01:27:31,145 --> 01:27:32,146
CONCERNS WRIT LARGE ACROSS THE 

2287
01:27:32,146 --> 01:27:33,948
BOARD. SO I'M NOT SAYING 

2288
01:27:33,948 --> 01:27:36,985
ANYTHING NEW. I KNOW MANY OF US 

2289
01:27:36,985 --> 01:27:39,187
HAVE EXPRESSED THAT, BUT IT IS A

2290
01:27:39,187 --> 01:27:40,488
HUGE ISSUE AND ONE THAT WE 

2291
01:27:40,488 --> 01:27:43,725
SHOULD BE ROBUSTLY ADDRESSING. 

2292
01:27:43,725 --> 01:27:49,197
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE 

2293
01:27:49,197 --> 01:27:52,166
AGGRESSIVE. AND IN THE HIRING 

2294
01:27:52,166 --> 01:27:53,668
AND RETAINING OF OUR OFFICERS 

2295
01:27:53,668 --> 01:27:57,605
AND NOT CAPPING OURSELVES. IF WE

2296
01:27:57,605 --> 01:27:59,741
HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAFF UP 

2297
01:27:59,741 --> 01:28:01,209
QUICKER THAN WE SHOULD DO THAT, 

2298
01:28:01,209 --> 01:28:03,478
BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE 

2299
01:28:03,478 --> 01:28:04,712
OUR RESPONSE TIMES ARE NOT WHAT 

2300
01:28:04,712 --> 01:28:08,249
THEY SHOULD BE. SO THAT IS OF 

2301
01:28:08,249 --> 01:28:12,287
CONCERN. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS 

2302
01:28:12,287 --> 01:28:14,522
ADMINISTRATION IS NOT LISTENING 

2303
01:28:14,522 --> 01:28:16,624
TO CONSTITUENTS. THEY'RE NOT 

2304
01:28:16,624 --> 01:28:18,393
LISTENING TO THE INABILITY TO DO

2305
01:28:18,393 --> 01:28:21,362
PROPER RESPONSE. 911 RESPONSE 

2306
01:28:21,362 --> 01:28:25,700
TIMES ON THE SPD SIDE, WE'RE 

2307
01:28:25,700 --> 01:28:26,701
GOING TO TALK ABOUT FIRE AFTER 

2308
01:28:26,701 --> 01:28:28,269
THIS. I KNOW. SO THAT'S OF 

2309
01:28:28,269 --> 01:28:31,706
CONCERN AS WELL. AND THAT IS OF 

2310
01:28:31,706 --> 01:28:33,341
CONCERN TO ME. WE SHOULD ALL BE 

2311
01:28:33,341 --> 01:28:35,510
ON THE SAME PAGE. WE NEED TO BE 

2312
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:38,346
ABLE TO RESPOND TO OUR 

2313
01:28:38,346 --> 01:28:38,980
CONSTITUENTS WHEN THEY CALL 911,

2314
01:28:38,980 --> 01:28:41,382
AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO SO 

2315
01:28:41,382 --> 01:28:45,253
TODAY. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT

2316
01:28:45,253 --> 01:28:47,622
THE STAFFING LEVEL HAS BEEN 

2317
01:28:47,622 --> 01:28:49,657
CAPPED SO THAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE

2318
01:28:49,657 --> 01:28:52,660
THE LEVEL OF HIRING THAT WE HAVE

2319
01:28:52,660 --> 01:28:54,062
SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS TO

2320
01:28:54,062 --> 01:28:56,397
GET US BACK TO A WHATEVER THAT 

2321
01:28:56,397 --> 01:28:57,865
NUMBER IS. AND I UNDERSTAND WE 

2322
01:28:57,865 --> 01:28:59,634
DON'T KNOW TODAY WHAT THE 

2323
01:28:59,634 --> 01:29:01,135
PROPER NUMBER IS. WE'RE NOT 

2324
01:29:01,135 --> 01:29:03,337
ANYWHERE NEAR WHATEVER THAT 

2325
01:29:03,337 --> 01:29:04,605
NUMBER POSSIBLY COULD BE. SO I 

2326
01:29:04,605 --> 01:29:06,341
THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT 

2327
01:29:06,341 --> 01:29:07,809
THAT ULTIMATE NUMBER IS, WE KNOW

2328
01:29:07,809 --> 01:29:10,912
WE'RE NOT WHERE WE WERE 

2329
01:29:10,912 --> 01:29:12,213
PRE-COVID. SO WE KNOW WE'RE NOT

2330
01:29:12,213 --> 01:29:14,782
WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND SO, 

2331
01:29:14,782 --> 01:29:17,185
LIKE I SAID, I, I AM CONCERNED 

2332
01:29:17,185 --> 01:29:18,786
THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING THIS THE 

2333
01:29:18,786 --> 01:29:21,255
LEVEL OF PRIORITY OR THAT THIS 

2334
01:29:21,255 --> 01:29:22,757
BUDGET DOESN'T REFLECT THE LEVEL

2335
01:29:22,757 --> 01:29:24,992
OF PRIORITY WE SHOULD BE GIVING 

2336
01:29:24,992 --> 01:29:26,294
TO THIS. SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT 

2337
01:29:26,294 --> 01:29:29,597
IN TERMS OF THE PEOS, I'LL ALSO

2338
01:29:29,597 --> 01:29:31,466
SAY THAT I'M CONCERNED THAT 

2339
01:29:31,466 --> 01:29:35,069
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HIRED. WE DID

2340
01:29:35,069 --> 01:29:36,371
PUT A PROVISO IN PLACE LAST YEAR

2341
01:29:36,371 --> 01:29:38,706
BECAUSE WE WANT THESE POSITIONS 

2342
01:29:38,706 --> 01:29:39,941
HIRED. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THE

2343
01:29:39,941 --> 01:29:41,442
WORK IF WE DON'T HAVE THE 

2344
01:29:41,442 --> 01:29:47,482
POSITIONS HIRED. AND. THE PEOS 

2345
01:29:47,482 --> 01:29:49,250
ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE 

2346
01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:50,418
SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE IN THE 

2347
01:29:50,418 --> 01:29:51,519
CITY. AND THEN I'LL ALSO 

2348
01:29:51,519 --> 01:29:52,620
MENTION, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN

2349
01:29:52,620 --> 01:29:55,656
MENTIONED, IS THAT THEY ALSO 

2350
01:29:55,656 --> 01:29:58,126
HELP RESPOND AND THEY WORK WITH 

2351
01:29:58,126 --> 01:30:00,161
THE U. TEAM TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE

2352
01:30:00,161 --> 01:30:02,196
ADDRESSING ARV'S ACROSS THE 

2353
01:30:02,196 --> 01:30:03,998
CITY AS WELL. AND SO THESE ARE 

2354
01:30:03,998 --> 01:30:05,366
POSITIONS THAT COULD BE HELPING 

2355
01:30:05,366 --> 01:30:06,601
WITH WORK. AND THEY'RE NOT 

2356
01:30:06,601 --> 01:30:07,802
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING 

2357
01:30:07,802 --> 01:30:08,903
HIRED. AND THAT'S WHY THE 

2358
01:30:08,903 --> 01:30:10,605
PROVISO WAS IMPORTANT. AND I'M 

2359
01:30:10,605 --> 01:30:13,107
DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT EVEN 

2360
01:30:13,107 --> 01:30:14,675
PROVIDING THE MONEY DID NOT 

2361
01:30:14,675 --> 01:30:17,545
INCENTIVIZE THE HIRING OF THESE 

2362
01:30:17,545 --> 01:30:20,014
POSITIONS, THAT WE OBVIOUSLY 

2363
01:30:20,014 --> 01:30:23,217
NEED IN TERMS OF THE CIVILIAN 

2364
01:30:23,217 --> 01:30:23,885
INVESTIGATORS. I'M CONCERNED, 

2365
01:30:23,885 --> 01:30:26,554
AND I HAVE A QUESTION. TWO 

2366
01:30:26,554 --> 01:30:28,422
QUESTIONS, GREG. ONE IS, WERE 

2367
01:30:28,422 --> 01:30:30,825
THEY NOT FILLED THOSE SECOND 

2368
01:30:30,825 --> 01:30:32,927
SEVEN NOT FILLED BECAUSE OF A 

2369
01:30:32,927 --> 01:30:36,931
HIRING FREEZE? OR WHAT WAS THE 

2370
01:30:36,931 --> 01:30:39,133
REASON WHY THOSE WE PUT IN FOR 

2371
01:30:39,133 --> 01:30:41,569
14, SEVEN AND 25, SEVEN AND 26 

2372
01:30:41,569 --> 01:30:44,372
TO 25 GOT HIRED, 26 DIDN'T 

2373
01:30:44,372 --> 01:30:45,773
THAT'S WE'RE IN 26. SO I'M 

2374
01:30:45,773 --> 01:30:47,508
JUST WONDERING WHY WE DIDN'T 

2375
01:30:47,508 --> 01:30:49,911
HIRE THOSE SEVEN CIVILIAN 

2376
01:30:49,911 --> 01:30:53,181
POSITIONS, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE WE

2377
01:30:53,181 --> 01:30:56,451
ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING SOME

2378
01:30:56,451 --> 01:30:57,919
SERIOUS CRIMES, LIKE IN THE BID 

2379
01:30:57,919 --> 01:30:59,153
OF SEATTLE THAT WE DON'T WE HAVE

2380
01:30:59,153 --> 01:31:04,058
AN ARRESTED FOLKS FOR, OR THAT 

2381
01:31:04,058 --> 01:31:06,494
FOLKS ARE STILL OUTSTANDING 

2382
01:31:06,494 --> 01:31:08,329
SOMEWHERE. WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE

2383
01:31:08,329 --> 01:31:09,730
PRIORITIZED THE HIRING OF THESE 

2384
01:31:09,730 --> 01:31:10,431
CIVILIAN. AND I MIGHT ADD, 

2385
01:31:10,431 --> 01:31:15,570
CIVILIAN POSITIONS WHICH ARE 

2386
01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:18,406
IMPORTANT TO TO THIS WORK, I 

2387
01:31:18,406 --> 01:31:20,541
PRESUME. 

2388
01:31:20,541 --> 01:31:23,444
-- I THINK WHAT WE KNOW WE'VE 

2389
01:31:23,444 --> 01:31:24,745
HEARD DIRECTOR TALK ABOUT IS 

2390
01:31:24,745 --> 01:31:28,316
THAT WHEN THE MAYOR CAME IN AND 

2391
01:31:28,316 --> 01:31:31,252
BEGAN ASSESSING THE FISCAL 

2392
01:31:31,252 --> 01:31:32,820
SITUATION, THERE WAS THERE WAS A

2393
01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:34,889
HIRING FREEZE PUT IN PLACE. AND 

2394
01:31:34,889 --> 01:31:37,492
AND WE KNOW THAT SPD'S CIVILIAN

2395
01:31:37,492 --> 01:31:39,927
POSITIONS, THESE SEVEN AND. AND 

2396
01:31:39,927 --> 01:31:43,497
ALSO THE THE PEOS AND ALSO THE 

2397
01:31:43,497 --> 01:31:45,299
THE R T CC POSITIONS SORT OF ALL

2398
01:31:45,299 --> 01:31:47,535
WENT ON HOLD. WHETHER OR NOT 

2399
01:31:47,535 --> 01:31:48,736
THAT WAS A RESULT OF A HIRING 

2400
01:31:48,736 --> 01:31:50,605
FREEZE, I DON'T KNOW 

2401
01:31:50,605 --> 01:31:51,706
SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT'S 

2402
01:31:51,706 --> 01:31:53,207
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO 

2403
01:31:53,207 --> 01:31:54,642
ASK, AND I WILL AND I'LL FOLLOW

2404
01:31:54,642 --> 01:31:54,976
UP WITH YOU. 

2405
01:31:54,976 --> 01:31:56,344
-- THANK YOU GREG, REALLY 

2406
01:31:56,344 --> 01:31:58,246
APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN ALSO 

2407
01:31:58,246 --> 01:31:59,881
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE, THE,

2408
01:31:59,881 --> 01:32:03,451
HOW REMOVAL OF THESE SEVEN 

2409
01:32:03,451 --> 01:32:06,320
POSITIONS WILL IMPACT CLOSURE 

2410
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,689
RATES AT SPD INVESTIGATION, 

2411
01:32:08,689 --> 01:32:11,092
CLOSURE RATES. I THINK THAT'S AN

2412
01:32:11,092 --> 01:32:12,159
IMPORTANT PIECE TO NOTE BECAUSE 

2413
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:14,495
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE 

2414
01:32:14,495 --> 01:32:15,329
NOT HIRING PEOPLE JUST TO HIRE 

2415
01:32:15,329 --> 01:32:16,397
PEOPLE. WE'RE HIRING PEOPLE 

2416
01:32:16,397 --> 01:32:18,699
BECAUSE WE NEED THIS WORK DONE. 

2417
01:32:18,699 --> 01:32:21,035
AND ON THE INVESTIGATING OF 

2418
01:32:21,035 --> 01:32:22,603
CRIMES PIECE. YOU KNOW, FOLKS 

2419
01:32:22,603 --> 01:32:25,806
NEED THEY NEED CLOSURE. FOLKS 

2420
01:32:25,806 --> 01:32:27,742
NEED TO WE NEED TO FOCUS. EXCUSE

2421
01:32:27,742 --> 01:32:29,944
ME. WE NEED TO HOLD FOLKS 

2422
01:32:29,944 --> 01:32:31,178
ACCOUNTABLE. WE CAN'T DO ANY OF

2423
01:32:31,178 --> 01:32:34,382
THOSE THINGS IF WE DON'T HAVE 

2424
01:32:34,382 --> 01:32:34,982
INVESTIGATORS TO INVESTIGATE 

2425
01:32:34,982 --> 01:32:36,384
THESE CASES. SO THIS IS REALLY 

2426
01:32:36,384 --> 01:32:42,590
IMPORTANT AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST 

2427
01:32:42,590 --> 01:32:45,526
YOU DIDN'T SAY DEFUND. I'M 

2428
01:32:45,526 --> 01:32:48,062
FEELING A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE'RE

2429
01:32:48,062 --> 01:32:50,498
GOING BACKWARDS HERE TOWARD 

2430
01:32:50,498 --> 01:32:51,832
2020. AND THAT'S NOT WHERE WE 

2431
01:32:51,832 --> 01:32:53,334
WANT TO BE. WE'VE MADE SOME 

2432
01:32:53,334 --> 01:32:55,236
REALLY GREAT PROGRESS IN THE 

2433
01:32:55,236 --> 01:32:57,438
LAST COUPLE YEARS. WE NEED TO 

2434
01:32:57,438 --> 01:32:59,340
CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM, NOT STALL

2435
01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:01,075
AND NOT GO BACKWARDS. SO I'M 

2436
01:33:01,075 --> 01:33:03,778
FEELING A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE 

2437
01:33:03,778 --> 01:33:06,414
DON'T NEED IF WE DON'T WANT TO

2438
01:33:06,414 --> 01:33:07,949
CALL IT DEFUNDING, I UNDERSTAND,

2439
01:33:07,949 --> 01:33:12,186
BUT IT'S A DEPRIORITIZING. 

2440
01:33:12,186 --> 01:33:13,788
IT'S JUST A DEPRIORITIZING. AND

2441
01:33:13,788 --> 01:33:15,323
THAT IS OF CONCERN. IT'S OF 

2442
01:33:15,323 --> 01:33:17,124
CONCERN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS 

2443
01:33:17,124 --> 01:33:19,093
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE THE ONES 

2444
01:33:19,093 --> 01:33:20,928
GETTING THE CALLS. WHEN 

2445
01:33:20,928 --> 01:33:22,296
CONSTITUENTS CALL 911 AND THEY 

2446
01:33:22,296 --> 01:33:24,465
DON'T GET SERVICED, THEY CALL 

2447
01:33:24,465 --> 01:33:26,467
US COUNSEL, AND THEN WE HAVE TO 

2448
01:33:26,467 --> 01:33:29,136
REQUEST TO THE EXECUTIVE, YOU 

2449
01:33:29,136 --> 01:33:31,105
KNOW, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE 

2450
01:33:31,105 --> 01:33:32,239
FEELING LIKE THEY'RE CALLING 

2451
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:33,374
911 AND THEY'RE NOT SHOWING UP.

2452
01:33:33,374 --> 01:33:35,409
FOLKS DON'T JUST CALL 911 FOR 

2453
01:33:35,409 --> 01:33:38,446
FUN. THEY NEED ASSISTANCE. AND 

2454
01:33:38,446 --> 01:33:40,114
SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE 

2455
01:33:40,114 --> 01:33:41,816
THAT SERVICE. IT'S OF HUGE 

2456
01:33:41,816 --> 01:33:44,919
CONCERN. SO ANYWAY, THEN WHEN 

2457
01:33:44,919 --> 01:33:45,553
SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, WE NEED 

2458
01:33:45,553 --> 01:33:48,356
TO BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE THOSE 

2459
01:33:48,356 --> 01:33:50,658
CRIMES. SO THOSE CLOSURE RATES 

2460
01:33:50,658 --> 01:33:52,293
I'D LOVE TO KNOW, GREG. I 

2461
01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:53,327
DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THAT 

2462
01:33:53,327 --> 01:33:55,229
TODAY, BUT I THINK IT IS 

2463
01:33:55,229 --> 01:33:57,231
IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN THE CONTEXT

2464
01:33:57,231 --> 01:34:01,369
OF THIS PROPOSED CUT TO THOSE 

2465
01:34:01,369 --> 01:34:05,506
SEVEN INVESTIGATIVE CIVILIAN 

2466
01:34:05,506 --> 01:34:06,674
INVESTIGATOR POSITIONS ON THE 

2467
01:34:06,674 --> 01:34:09,810
REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. I KNOW 

2468
01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:12,246
MY COLLEAGUE, PUBLIC SAFETY 

2469
01:34:12,246 --> 01:34:13,748
CHAIR KETTLE, ALREADY SPOKE 

2470
01:34:13,748 --> 01:34:15,182
ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING 

2471
01:34:15,182 --> 01:34:18,352
ABLE TO HAVE THIS SERVICE RUN 

2472
01:34:18,352 --> 01:34:23,157
247, SO I'M NOT GOING TO ADD TO

2473
01:34:23,157 --> 01:34:24,992
WHAT HE SAID. I AGREE WITH MY 

2474
01:34:24,992 --> 01:34:28,095
COLLEAGUE. I NOTICE ON THE DATA 

2475
01:34:28,095 --> 01:34:31,832
ANALYSIS SIDE, THERE'S ONE FTE 

2476
01:34:31,832 --> 01:34:33,200
REDUCTION. WHAT A CURRENT WAIT 

2477
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,002
TIMES FOR CRIMINAL DATA AND 

2478
01:34:35,002 --> 01:34:36,303
CRIMINAL TREND ANALYSIS, BECAUSE

2479
01:34:36,303 --> 01:34:39,407
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THIS 

2480
01:34:39,407 --> 01:34:40,975
POSITION WAS DOING. AGAIN, THIS 

2481
01:34:40,975 --> 01:34:42,943
GOES, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE 

2482
01:34:42,943 --> 01:34:45,146
CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS, THIS IS 

2483
01:34:45,146 --> 01:34:46,447
IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT WE 

2484
01:34:46,447 --> 01:34:50,484
NEED. CRIMINAL DATA AND CRIMINAL

2485
01:34:50,484 --> 01:34:56,090
TREND ANALYSIS. AND THEN I'LL 

2486
01:34:56,090 --> 01:34:58,859
JUST NOTE AND THIS, YOU KNOW, IT

2487
01:34:58,859 --> 01:35:00,194
GOES ALONG WITH A NUMBER OF 

2488
01:35:00,194 --> 01:35:01,695
OFFICERS. BUT I WILL NOTE THAT 

2489
01:35:01,695 --> 01:35:09,170
IN PARTICULAR, ON THE NORTH END.

2490
01:35:09,170 --> 01:35:11,939
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF 

2491
01:35:11,939 --> 01:35:14,909
FOLKS PER POPULATION IN OUR 

2492
01:35:14,909 --> 01:35:19,713
PRECINCT. WE HAVE 42% TOTAL 

2493
01:35:19,713 --> 01:35:22,149
POPULATION IN DISTRICTS FOUR, 

2494
01:35:22,149 --> 01:35:26,720
FIVE AND SIX. AND YET OUR POLICE

2495
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:27,388
NUMBERS IN THAT PRECINCT ARE WE 

2496
01:35:27,388 --> 01:35:29,824
ONLY HAVE 25% OF THE OFFICERS, 

2497
01:35:29,824 --> 01:35:33,928
BUT 42% OF THE POPULATION. WE'RE

2498
01:35:33,928 --> 01:35:35,229
LIKE A SMALL CITY UP ON THE 

2499
01:35:35,229 --> 01:35:39,166
NORTH END. SO, YOU KNOW, MY 

2500
01:35:39,166 --> 01:35:40,301
COMMENT THERE IS JUST SIMPLY TO 

2501
01:35:40,301 --> 01:35:41,435
SAY WE NEED MORE OFFICERS, WE 

2502
01:35:41,435 --> 01:35:46,207
NEED MORE OFFICERS TO PROVIDE 

2503
01:35:46,207 --> 01:35:48,075
ASSISTANCE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. 

2504
01:35:48,075 --> 01:35:50,644
AND I WILL ALSO SAY I'M REALLY 

2505
01:35:50,644 --> 01:35:51,979
DISAPPOINTED. THAT'S I IT'S 

2506
01:35:51,979 --> 01:35:54,415
NOT EVEN A STRONG ENOUGH WORD ON

2507
01:35:54,415 --> 01:35:56,417
THE BOTH THE 30 BY 30, BECAUSE 

2508
01:35:56,417 --> 01:35:58,119
THAT'S AN AD THAT I MADE LAST 

2509
01:35:58,119 --> 01:36:02,790
YEAR SUPPORTED BY MANY OF MY 

2510
01:36:02,790 --> 01:36:04,859
COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING MY FRIEND 

2511
01:36:04,859 --> 01:36:05,459
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HERE TO MY 

2512
01:36:05,459 --> 01:36:08,596
LEFT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING 

2513
01:36:08,596 --> 01:36:11,332
TO BE DOING BETTER ON HIRING OF 

2514
01:36:11,332 --> 01:36:13,300
WOMEN IF WE DON'T GIVE FOCUS TO

2515
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:18,773
THIS. SO. THAT IS, IT'S 

2516
01:36:18,773 --> 01:36:20,875
UPSETTING. IT'S CONCERNING. AND

2517
01:36:20,875 --> 01:36:26,514
THEN ALONG WITH THAT, THE DEI 

2518
01:36:26,514 --> 01:36:27,915
RECRUITMENT EFFORTS, AS I'VE 

2519
01:36:27,915 --> 01:36:28,582
SAID BEFORE, I'M GOING TO SAY 

2520
01:36:28,582 --> 01:36:30,918
IT AGAIN. OUR POLICE FORCE 

2521
01:36:30,918 --> 01:36:33,320
SHOULD REFLECT, SHOULD LOOK LIKE

2522
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,556
THE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE SERVING 

2523
01:36:35,556 --> 01:36:36,957
ON THE GROUND IN THIS CITY. AND 

2524
01:36:36,957 --> 01:36:39,393
SO WE REALLY SHOULD, WE SHOULD 

2525
01:36:39,393 --> 01:36:41,562
WE SHOULD BE TAKING THIS 

2526
01:36:41,562 --> 01:36:43,497
SERIOUSLY. SO THIS IS THE SECOND

2527
01:36:43,497 --> 01:36:49,103
YEAR IN A ROW. THAT THIS 30 BY 

2528
01:36:49,103 --> 01:36:56,477
30. FTE HIRE HAS GONE UP 

2529
01:36:56,477 --> 01:36:57,678
UNFULFILLED. AND IT JUST AGAIN, 

2530
01:36:57,678 --> 01:37:02,283
IT GOES TO THIS DEPRIORITIZATION

2531
01:37:02,283 --> 01:37:02,683
DEPRIORITIZATION. 

2532
01:37:02,683 --> 01:37:04,218
DEPRIORITIZATION PIECE THAT I 

2533
01:37:04,218 --> 01:37:08,622
SPOKE TO EARLIER. SO IT IS 

2534
01:37:08,622 --> 01:37:11,425
IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE 

2535
01:37:11,425 --> 01:37:13,994
RECRUITING WOMEN, PEOPLE OF 

2536
01:37:13,994 --> 01:37:15,196
COLOR, JUST LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT

2537
01:37:15,196 --> 01:37:17,598
FOR US TO BE DOING TRAINING. WE 

2538
01:37:17,598 --> 01:37:20,201
NEED TO BE DOING COMMUNITY 

2539
01:37:20,201 --> 01:37:22,036
POLICING. AS CHIEF BARNES AND I 

2540
01:37:22,036 --> 01:37:24,104
ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT, AND HE HAD 

2541
01:37:24,104 --> 01:37:26,807
A HUGE FOCUS ON COMMUNITY 

2542
01:37:26,807 --> 01:37:28,342
POLICING. IT WORKS. I'VE SEEN IT

2543
01:37:28,342 --> 01:37:29,476
WORKING AT MAGNUSON PARK WITH 

2544
01:37:29,476 --> 01:37:32,346
THE TWO OFFICERS THERE. I AM SO 

2545
01:37:32,346 --> 01:37:34,481
GRATEFUL TO BOTH CHIEF BARNES 

2546
01:37:34,481 --> 01:37:35,649
AND THEN INTERIM CHIEF SALES, 

2547
01:37:35,649 --> 01:37:36,350
WHO HAVE KEPT THE OFFICERS 

2548
01:37:36,350 --> 01:37:38,052
THERE. MY FOLKS THAT LIVE AT THE

2549
01:37:38,052 --> 01:37:41,755
PARK, BOTH AT MERCY HOUSING AND 

2550
01:37:41,755 --> 01:37:43,324
SOLID GROUND AND VISITORS TO THE

2551
01:37:43,324 --> 01:37:46,060
PARK ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE 

2552
01:37:46,060 --> 01:37:47,928
AND KNOW THEIR OFFICERS BY FIRST

2553
01:37:47,928 --> 01:37:49,263
NAME NATHAN BEING ONE OF THEM. 

2554
01:37:49,263 --> 01:37:51,765
THANK YOU NATHAN. IT'S IMPORTANT

2555
01:37:51,765 --> 01:37:53,133
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. AND WE

2556
01:37:53,133 --> 01:37:54,969
CANNOT GET TO COMMUNITY POLICING

2557
01:37:54,969 --> 01:37:57,171
IF WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF 

2558
01:37:57,171 --> 01:38:02,376
OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE 

2559
01:38:02,376 --> 01:38:02,877
OFFICERS ALL ACROSS OUR 

2560
01:38:02,877 --> 01:38:04,078
NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THAT'S WHAT 

2561
01:38:04,078 --> 01:38:08,849
WE SHOULD BE ASPIRING TO. SO 

2562
01:38:08,849 --> 01:38:10,284
THIS CAP IS OF CONCERN. AND THEN

2563
01:38:10,284 --> 01:38:11,518
ALSO, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, 

2564
01:38:11,518 --> 01:38:15,289
CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE FOR

2565
01:38:15,289 --> 01:38:18,592
GIVING ME THE TIME IS THAT. WE 

2566
01:38:18,592 --> 01:38:22,096
ARE NOT THIS THIS BUDGET 

2567
01:38:22,096 --> 01:38:24,465
DOESN'T ADD TO THE POLICE 

2568
01:38:24,465 --> 01:38:27,434
BUDGET. IT ADDS MONEY THAT WAS 

2569
01:38:27,434 --> 01:38:30,638
RELATED TO A POLICING CONTRACT, 

2570
01:38:30,638 --> 01:38:33,007
BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY ADD 

2571
01:38:33,007 --> 01:38:35,276
MONEY TO REALLY ADD OFFICERS IN 

2572
01:38:35,276 --> 01:38:37,211
A WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN RESPONDING

2573
01:38:37,211 --> 01:38:40,381
TO SINCE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE 

2574
01:38:40,381 --> 01:38:42,616
AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE 

2575
01:38:42,616 --> 01:38:44,718
BEEN HERE AND TRYING TO 

2576
01:38:44,718 --> 01:38:46,253
ACCOMPLISH ON BEHALF OF OUR 

2577
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:47,588
CONSTITUENTS. SO I THINK IT IS 

2578
01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:51,659
WRONG TO SAY THAT THE EXECUTIVE 

2579
01:38:51,659 --> 01:38:52,960
HAS ADDED MONEY TO THE POLICE 

2580
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,528
BUDGET. THIS MONEY THAT WAS 

2581
01:38:54,528 --> 01:38:56,030
ADDED WAS TO COVER MOSTLY THIS 

2582
01:38:56,030 --> 01:38:58,832
MONEY WAS TO COVER THE CONTRACT,

2583
01:38:58,832 --> 01:39:01,001
BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME. THOSE 

2584
01:39:01,001 --> 01:39:03,737
ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS. AND SO 

2585
01:39:03,737 --> 01:39:07,241
TO ME, AGAIN, IT IS A 

2586
01:39:07,241 --> 01:39:09,977
DEPRIORITIZATION OF OUR POLICE 

2587
01:39:09,977 --> 01:39:12,713
DEPARTMENT ON BEHALF OF AND 

2588
01:39:12,713 --> 01:39:15,549
TOWARD GOOD RESPONSE TIMES FOR 

2589
01:39:15,549 --> 01:39:21,588
OUR CONSTITUENTS. SO THIS BUDGET

2590
01:39:21,588 --> 01:39:24,291
TO ME ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE 

2591
01:39:24,291 --> 01:39:26,894
IN GENERAL, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE

2592
01:39:26,894 --> 01:39:28,495
GOING TO TALK ABOUT FIRE LATER. 

2593
01:39:28,495 --> 01:39:30,230
I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT FIRE. 

2594
01:39:30,230 --> 01:39:33,300
WE ARE DEPRIORITIZING OUR 

2595
01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:39,006
CHARTERED RESPONSIBILITIES 

2596
01:39:39,006 --> 01:39:40,441
PERIOD. FULL STOP. THERE IS NO 

2597
01:39:40,441 --> 01:39:44,845
OTHER WAY TO SAY IT. THANK YOU 

2598
01:39:44,845 --> 01:39:45,079
CHAIR. 

2599
01:39:45,079 --> 01:39:46,613
-- THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. RIVERA

2600
01:39:46,613 --> 01:39:47,548
COMMITTEE TABLE. ANYTHING TO ADD

2601
01:39:47,548 --> 01:39:50,217
AT THIS TIME? NOTHING TO ADD. 

2602
01:39:50,217 --> 01:39:51,752
WE'VE GOT COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

2603
01:39:51,752 --> 01:39:53,954
FOLLOWED BY SAKA, RINCK AND 

2604
01:39:53,954 --> 01:39:54,521
FOSTER. COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

2605
01:39:54,521 --> 01:39:57,491
-- THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU 

2606
01:39:57,491 --> 01:40:01,829
COLLEAGUES. THANKS TO OUR 

2607
01:40:01,829 --> 01:40:03,430
PRESENTERS. I'M JUST STRUGGLING

2608
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:05,099
A LITTLE BIT WITH THE 

2609
01:40:05,099 --> 01:40:08,402
PRESENTATION AND SOME OF THE 

2610
01:40:08,402 --> 01:40:09,403
CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING. SO I

2611
01:40:09,403 --> 01:40:11,505
JUST WANT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT,

2612
01:40:11,505 --> 01:40:14,908
I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT

2613
01:40:14,908 --> 01:40:19,413
DIFFERENT FACTS OR STATS BECAUSE

2614
01:40:19,413 --> 01:40:20,581
JUST WANT TO CONFIRM HOW MUCH 

2615
01:40:20,581 --> 01:40:23,384
WAS ADDED TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET

2616
01:40:23,384 --> 01:40:26,120
IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 

2617
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,122
-- YEAH. AS I MENTIONED AT THE 

2618
01:40:28,122 --> 01:40:33,127
TOP, THERE WAS 68 MILLION ADDED 

2619
01:40:33,127 --> 01:40:34,928
THAT INCLUDES 56 MILLION TO PAY 

2620
01:40:34,928 --> 01:40:36,096
FOR SALARY INCREASES THAT WERE 

2621
01:40:36,096 --> 01:40:38,065
BARGAINED. AND THERE WAS 12 

2622
01:40:38,065 --> 01:40:39,833
MILLION ADDED TO THE SWORN 

2623
01:40:39,833 --> 01:40:46,106
STAFFING PLAN FOR THE 1250 FTE. 

2624
01:40:46,106 --> 01:40:48,275
THAT WOULD RESULT IN 43 NET NEW.

2625
01:40:48,275 --> 01:40:51,311
AND NEXT YEAR AND SUSTAINMENT IN

2626
01:40:51,311 --> 01:40:52,012
2028. 

2627
01:40:52,012 --> 01:40:53,680
-- THANK THANK YOU. ARE YOU 

2628
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,549
AWARE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE 

2629
01:40:55,549 --> 01:40:56,316
FOCUSED ON SPD, BUT ARE YOU 

2630
01:40:56,316 --> 01:40:58,352
AWARE OF ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT 

2631
01:40:58,352 --> 01:40:59,319
THAT RECEIVES SUCH A LARGE 

2632
01:40:59,319 --> 01:41:03,457
INCREASE IN THEIR BUDGET? MAYBE 

2633
01:41:03,457 --> 01:41:03,657
FOR. 

2634
01:41:03,657 --> 01:41:05,059
-- LIKE NO OTHER DEPARTMENT 

2635
01:41:05,059 --> 01:41:06,293
RECEIVES SUCH A LARGE. 

2636
01:41:06,293 --> 01:41:06,927
-- ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT RECEIVES

2637
01:41:06,927 --> 01:41:08,295
SUCH A LARGE INCREASE IN A 

2638
01:41:08,295 --> 01:41:13,967
PERCENTAGE CHANGE? NO. OKAY. 

2639
01:41:13,967 --> 01:41:16,670
WOULD YOU CALL THAT DEFUNDING OR

2640
01:41:16,670 --> 01:41:18,005
UNDERFUNDING OF THE POLICE 

2641
01:41:18,005 --> 01:41:20,574
DEPARTMENT SUCH A LARGE 

2642
01:41:20,574 --> 01:41:20,841
INCREASE? 

2643
01:41:20,841 --> 01:41:24,378
-- I THINK HAVING STAFFED THE 

2644
01:41:24,378 --> 01:41:27,714
COUNCIL DURING THE DEFUND 

2645
01:41:27,714 --> 01:41:30,684
PERIOD, IT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO 

2646
01:41:30,684 --> 01:41:33,053
NOTE THAT THE DEFUNDING PERIOD 

2647
01:41:33,053 --> 01:41:34,588
WAS ABOUT TAKING FUNCTIONS OR 

2648
01:41:34,588 --> 01:41:35,222
SHRINKING, TAKING FUNCTIONS AWAY

2649
01:41:35,222 --> 01:41:37,825
OR SHRINKING. THE DEPARTMENT. 

2650
01:41:37,825 --> 01:41:40,594
AND THERE WERE PARTICULAR POLICY

2651
01:41:40,594 --> 01:41:41,728
REASONS OR GOALS THAT THE 

2652
01:41:41,728 --> 01:41:43,297
COUNCIL HAD AT THAT TIME FOR 

2653
01:41:43,297 --> 01:41:45,866
DOING THAT. BUT IT IS A 

2654
01:41:45,866 --> 01:41:48,135
DIFFERENT THING TO TAKE 

2655
01:41:48,135 --> 01:41:52,873
RESOURCES AWAY THAN IT IS TO NOT

2656
01:41:52,873 --> 01:41:55,109
ADD AND I, I IF I CHARACTERIZED 

2657
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:56,977
ANYTHING AS DEFUND THIS TIME 

2658
01:41:56,977 --> 01:42:00,714
AROUND AGAIN, I, I APOLOGIZE. 

2659
01:42:00,714 --> 01:42:01,982
WHAT WHAT IS BEING DONE MORE IN 

2660
01:42:01,982 --> 01:42:04,384
THIS BUDGET IS NOT ADDING. 

2661
01:42:04,384 --> 01:42:05,853
-- BUT, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE

2662
01:42:05,853 --> 01:42:07,020
ARE ADDING. WE ARE ADDING A 

2663
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:08,555
NUMBER OF OFFICERS. 

2664
01:42:08,555 --> 01:42:10,357
-- AS I SAID, WE ARE. WE ARE 

2665
01:42:10,357 --> 01:42:10,591
ADDING. 

2666
01:42:10,591 --> 01:42:12,860
-- OR THE PROPOSAL THAT. 

2667
01:42:12,860 --> 01:42:13,660
-- WE'RE ADDING. 

2668
01:42:13,660 --> 01:42:14,628
-- THANK YOU FRIENDS. I'M GOING

2669
01:42:14,628 --> 01:42:16,330
TO JUMP IN AND FACILITATE THIS 

2670
01:42:16,330 --> 01:42:17,631
MORNING. THANK YOU. AND THE 

2671
01:42:17,631 --> 01:42:18,866
REASON THAT I JUMP IN TO 

2672
01:42:18,866 --> 01:42:19,967
FACILITATE IS WHEN WE HAVE 

2673
01:42:19,967 --> 01:42:20,634
CROSSTALK. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT 

2674
01:42:20,634 --> 01:42:22,336
OF IT YESTERDAY. SO I'M JUST 

2675
01:42:22,336 --> 01:42:23,337
GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. 

2676
01:42:23,337 --> 01:42:23,971
COUNCILMEMBER LIN YOU HAVE THE 

2677
01:42:23,971 --> 01:42:24,671
FLOOR TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, AND 

2678
01:42:24,671 --> 01:42:26,206
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO 

2679
01:42:26,206 --> 01:42:27,641
THE COMMITTEE TABLE. THANK YOU. 

2680
01:42:27,641 --> 01:42:29,877
-- THANK YOU. SO WE ARE ADDING 

2681
01:42:29,877 --> 01:42:31,545
THE BUDGET PROPOSAL FROM THE 

2682
01:42:31,545 --> 01:42:33,814
MAYOR, ADDS OFFICERS, JUST TO BE

2683
01:42:33,814 --> 01:42:36,183
CLEAR. SO WE ARE NOT DEFUNDING 

2684
01:42:36,183 --> 01:42:37,150
ANYTHING ABOUT THE POLICE 

2685
01:42:37,150 --> 01:42:38,352
DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? 

2686
01:42:38,352 --> 01:42:39,853
-- CORRECT DOSE. YEP. BACK TO 

2687
01:42:39,853 --> 01:42:44,458
YOU, MR. LYNN. 

2688
01:42:44,458 --> 01:42:46,026
-- THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO 

2689
01:42:46,026 --> 01:42:48,362
FROM A COMMENTARY STANDPOINT, 

2690
01:42:48,362 --> 01:42:49,963
NOTE THAT THERE ARE OTHER 

2691
01:42:49,963 --> 01:42:51,832
DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ARE BEING 

2692
01:42:51,832 --> 01:42:52,699
UNFUNDED, DEFUNDED, WHATEVER YOU

2693
01:42:52,699 --> 01:42:55,536
WANT TO CALL IT, INCLUDING 

2694
01:42:55,536 --> 01:42:56,136
APPROXIMATELY 65 MILLION FROM 

2695
01:42:56,136 --> 01:42:57,738
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING, WHICH 

2696
01:42:57,738 --> 01:42:59,273
THROUGH FORWARD COMMITMENTS. SO 

2697
01:42:59,273 --> 01:43:01,742
I JUST I WANT US TO HAVE A LEVEL

2698
01:43:01,742 --> 01:43:02,543
PLAYING FIELD AND SOME, YOU 

2699
01:43:02,543 --> 01:43:04,378
KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE 

2700
01:43:04,378 --> 01:43:05,846
CHARACTERIZING WHAT'S ACTUALLY 

2701
01:43:05,846 --> 01:43:08,682
HAPPENING IN THE PROPOSED 

2702
01:43:08,682 --> 01:43:09,383
BUDGET. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE 

2703
01:43:09,383 --> 01:43:11,351
AND WHAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE 

2704
01:43:11,351 --> 01:43:13,921
CLEAR THAT I SUPPORT INCREASED 

2705
01:43:13,921 --> 01:43:15,189
HIRING, AND I AM THANKFUL FOR 

2706
01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:18,192
ALL THE HARD WORK OF COUNCIL 

2707
01:43:18,192 --> 01:43:20,827
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS OF 

2708
01:43:20,827 --> 01:43:22,496
INCREASING HIRES. IT'S YOU KNOW,

2709
01:43:22,496 --> 01:43:23,964
IT'S A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING 

2710
01:43:23,964 --> 01:43:27,000
AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION TO 

2711
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:27,901
KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD 

2712
01:43:27,901 --> 01:43:29,670
TO COME UP WITH METRICS ABOUT 

2713
01:43:29,670 --> 01:43:32,372
HOW MANY OFFICERS WE NEED, 

2714
01:43:32,372 --> 01:43:33,974
WHAT'S THE RIGHT RATIO, WHAT, 

2715
01:43:33,974 --> 01:43:37,144
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE GET FOR 

2716
01:43:37,144 --> 01:43:38,245
INCREASED OFFICERS IN TERMS OF, 

2717
01:43:38,245 --> 01:43:41,448
YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN WANT TO TALK 

2718
01:43:41,448 --> 01:43:43,917
ABOUT. YOU KNOW, USING OBJECTIVE

2719
01:43:43,917 --> 01:43:45,752
METRICS AND OUTCOMES, OUTCOMES 

2720
01:43:45,752 --> 01:43:47,888
BASED BUDGETING, IT'S HARD TO 

2721
01:43:47,888 --> 01:43:50,023
DO WHEN THERE'S NOT SORT OF 

2722
01:43:50,023 --> 01:43:51,225
CLEAR STANDARDS FOR, FOR WHAT WE

2723
01:43:51,225 --> 01:43:52,559
NEED AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO 

2724
01:43:52,559 --> 01:43:55,329
GET. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THAT BEING

2725
01:43:55,329 --> 01:43:57,764
SAID, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED MORE 

2726
01:43:57,764 --> 01:43:58,799
OFFICERS. AND I'VE SAID THAT 

2727
01:43:58,799 --> 01:44:02,035
AND I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT. 

2728
01:44:02,035 --> 01:44:05,906
AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE A BUDGET

2729
01:44:05,906 --> 01:44:08,108
WITH INCREASED OFFICERS. I WOULD

2730
01:44:08,108 --> 01:44:10,544
HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND OR 

2731
01:44:10,544 --> 01:44:18,118
COMMENTS JUST ABOUT SLIDE FIVE. 

2732
01:44:18,118 --> 01:44:19,987
LET'S SEE. AND I JUST THINK 

2733
01:44:19,987 --> 01:44:21,788
THAT THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR 

2734
01:44:21,788 --> 01:44:22,723
ME TO SEE, AND I THINK FOR THE 

2735
01:44:22,723 --> 01:44:24,257
BUDGET TO SEE IN TERMS OF THE 

2736
01:44:24,257 --> 01:44:27,694
IMPACT OF OUR HIRING. AND I 

2737
01:44:27,694 --> 01:44:28,895
GUESS ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IN

2738
01:44:28,895 --> 01:44:32,666
TERMS OF OUR HIRING, THERE ARE 

2739
01:44:32,666 --> 01:44:36,003
CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS IN TERMS OF

2740
01:44:36,003 --> 01:44:38,772
HIRING, GETTING NEW OFFICERS 

2741
01:44:38,772 --> 01:44:39,906
DEPLOYED. AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS

2742
01:44:39,906 --> 01:44:42,309
SORT OF A CONSTRAINT, RIGHT, IN 

2743
01:44:42,309 --> 01:44:43,477
TERMS OF NEW RECRUITS. SO EVEN 

2744
01:44:43,477 --> 01:44:47,614
IF WE HAD MORE BUDGET, THERE IS 

2745
01:44:47,614 --> 01:44:49,449
JUST, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, 

2746
01:44:49,449 --> 01:44:50,083
CONSTRAINTS AND HOW QUICKLY WE 

2747
01:44:50,083 --> 01:44:53,754
CAN DEPLOY NEW OFFICERS IS THAT 

2748
01:44:53,754 --> 01:44:54,021
CORRECT? 

2749
01:44:54,021 --> 01:44:57,124
-- YES, COUNCILMEMBER. THERE ARE

2750
01:44:57,124 --> 01:45:00,027
A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF STUDENT 

2751
01:45:00,027 --> 01:45:03,664
OFFICERS THAT HAVE ENTERED THE 

2752
01:45:03,664 --> 01:45:05,732
TRAINING PROGRAM. AND AS MY 

2753
01:45:05,732 --> 01:45:09,069
PAPER STATES AND I PROBABLY 

2754
01:45:09,069 --> 01:45:10,604
SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER, 

2755
01:45:10,604 --> 01:45:13,273
THERE IS A BACKLOG, SO TO SPEAK,

2756
01:45:13,273 --> 01:45:15,976
OF OFFICERS WHO ARE WAITING TO 

2757
01:45:15,976 --> 01:45:18,311
RECEIVE TRAINING. THERE ARE 20 

2758
01:45:18,311 --> 01:45:20,314
STUDENT OFFICERS THAT HAVEN'T 

2759
01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:22,349
BEEN ASSIGNED TO TRAINER BECAUSE

2760
01:45:22,349 --> 01:45:25,452
THERE IS NOT A TRAINER 

2761
01:45:25,452 --> 01:45:27,688
AVAILABLE. SO PROCESSING 

2762
01:45:27,688 --> 01:45:29,056
THROUGHPUT OF OF NEW OFFICERS 

2763
01:45:29,056 --> 01:45:30,991
HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. IT'S 

2764
01:45:30,991 --> 01:45:33,327
SOMETHING THAT WAS RAISED IN THE

2765
01:45:33,327 --> 01:45:33,927
QUARTERLY PRESENTATION THAT I 

2766
01:45:33,927 --> 01:45:36,329
GAVE BACK IN JUNE. I KNOW IT'S 

2767
01:45:36,329 --> 01:45:36,897
SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT IS 

2768
01:45:36,897 --> 01:45:40,500
WORKING ON, BUT AT THIS POINT WE

2769
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:41,501
STILL HAVE A SMALL BACKLOG. 

2770
01:45:41,501 --> 01:45:42,436
OKAY. THEY DO. 

2771
01:45:42,436 --> 01:45:44,071
-- THANK YOU. AND IN TERMS OF 

2772
01:45:44,071 --> 01:45:48,875
THIS CHART, WHAT I SEE HERE IS A

2773
01:45:48,875 --> 01:45:51,411
PROJECTION OF GROWING DEPLOYABLE

2774
01:45:51,411 --> 01:45:52,946
OFFICERS, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO 

2775
01:45:52,946 --> 01:45:55,382
SEE. AND BASICALLY WHAT I SEE IN

2776
01:45:55,382 --> 01:45:56,950
THIS CHART IS SORT OF A LAG 

2777
01:45:56,950 --> 01:46:00,387
BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HIRE 

2778
01:46:00,387 --> 01:46:00,887
VERSUS WHEN THEY BECOME 

2779
01:46:00,887 --> 01:46:02,689
DEPLOYABLE. AND WHEN I READ THE 

2780
01:46:02,689 --> 01:46:05,058
MEMO, WHAT I, WHAT I READ WAS, 

2781
01:46:05,058 --> 01:46:06,727
YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE BUDGET, 

2782
01:46:06,727 --> 01:46:07,694
THERE WOULD BE A SLOWDOWN IN 

2783
01:46:07,694 --> 01:46:13,767
HIRING AT THE END OF 2027 TO 

2784
01:46:13,767 --> 01:46:14,368
ACCOUNT FOR POTENTIAL BUDGET 

2785
01:46:14,368 --> 01:46:16,336
AUTHORITY. AND WHAT I SEE IN 

2786
01:46:16,336 --> 01:46:17,938
THIS PROJECTION IS THAT YOU 

2787
01:46:17,938 --> 01:46:20,474
START TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF THAT

2788
01:46:20,474 --> 01:46:22,042
SLOWDOWN IN HIRING, IN TERMS OF 

2789
01:46:22,042 --> 01:46:23,577
SORT OF IT'S STILL GOING UP IN 

2790
01:46:23,577 --> 01:46:29,483
TERMS OF PROJECTED DEPLOYABLE 

2791
01:46:29,483 --> 01:46:30,650
AND FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS, BUT 

2792
01:46:30,650 --> 01:46:31,418
THERE'S A SLOWDOWN AND THEN A 

2793
01:46:31,418 --> 01:46:36,189
PLATEAU. AND WE SEE THAT PLATEAU

2794
01:46:36,189 --> 01:46:38,759
IN 2029, 2030. SO THE THE FELT 

2795
01:46:38,759 --> 01:46:39,893
IMPACT THERE WILL BE A DELAY IF 

2796
01:46:39,893 --> 01:46:43,230
WE IF WE SLOW DOWN HIRING, BUT 

2797
01:46:43,230 --> 01:46:44,631
WE WILL CONTINUE TO TO GROW IN 

2798
01:46:44,631 --> 01:46:46,633
TERMS OF BOTH DEPLOYABLE AND 

2799
01:46:46,633 --> 01:46:48,135
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS. IS THAT 

2800
01:46:48,135 --> 01:46:49,069
CORRECT? 

2801
01:46:49,069 --> 01:46:50,470
-- THAT'S CORRECT. YES. 

2802
01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:52,072
-- THANK YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, 

2803
01:46:52,072 --> 01:46:54,007
CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IF FOLKS 

2804
01:46:54,007 --> 01:46:54,941
ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IF THEY WANT

2805
01:46:54,941 --> 01:46:57,177
TO SEE THAT CONTINUE TO TO GO UP

2806
01:46:57,177 --> 01:46:59,079
AND IT'S STILL BELOW WHERE WE 

2807
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:02,416
WERE IN 2019. AND SO I 

2808
01:47:02,416 --> 01:47:04,117
APPRECIATE THAT CONCERN, BUT I 

2809
01:47:04,117 --> 01:47:07,320
JUST I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT

2810
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,089
THIS THIS BUDGET SHOWS A 

2811
01:47:09,089 --> 01:47:11,591
CONTINUED GROWTH AND THEN A 

2812
01:47:11,591 --> 01:47:14,528
PLATEAU AT, AT THAT POINT JUST A

2813
01:47:14,528 --> 01:47:19,533
COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS IN TERMS 

2814
01:47:19,533 --> 01:47:20,934
OF OVERTIME. YOU KNOW, WHAT I 

2815
01:47:20,934 --> 01:47:24,371
SEE IN THE OVERTIME IS THAT 

2816
01:47:24,371 --> 01:47:25,038
OVERTIME IS LARGELY THE SAME. 

2817
01:47:25,038 --> 01:47:26,439
AND I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT 

2818
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:29,276
EVENTS, BUT ALSO KIND OF 

2819
01:47:29,276 --> 01:47:31,311
STAFFING LEVELS. IS THERE A WAY 

2820
01:47:31,311 --> 01:47:34,181
WHERE, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE 

2821
01:47:34,181 --> 01:47:39,052
TO HAVE DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS THAT

2822
01:47:39,052 --> 01:47:40,387
OVERTIME CAN BE REDUCED, IS 

2823
01:47:40,387 --> 01:47:42,389
THERE ANY SORT OF DISCUSSION 

2824
01:47:42,389 --> 01:47:43,323
ABOUT REDUCING OVER YOU KNOW, I,

2825
01:47:43,323 --> 01:47:45,091
YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION

2826
01:47:45,091 --> 01:47:46,092
WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. LIKE 

2827
01:47:46,092 --> 01:47:48,395
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE 

2828
01:47:48,395 --> 01:47:51,031
FULL TIME FOLKS AND THEN CUT 

2829
01:47:51,031 --> 01:47:55,469
OVERTIME. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I 

2830
01:47:55,469 --> 01:47:57,204
THINK NEWER GENERATIONS ARE NOT 

2831
01:47:57,204 --> 01:47:59,940
AS ENTHUSED ABOUT OVERTIME AS 

2832
01:47:59,940 --> 01:48:01,341
MAYBE OLDER GENERATIONS. SO BUT 

2833
01:48:01,341 --> 01:48:02,876
IS THERE ANY SORT OF WAY TO 

2834
01:48:02,876 --> 01:48:06,913
REDUCE OUR OVERTIME WITH 

2835
01:48:06,913 --> 01:48:10,217
INCREASED HIRING? 

2836
01:48:10,217 --> 01:48:10,851
-- IT'S IT'S A COMPLICATED 

2837
01:48:10,851 --> 01:48:12,485
QUESTION AND IT'S A COMPLICATED

2838
01:48:12,485 --> 01:48:19,860
ANSWER. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE 

2839
01:48:19,860 --> 01:48:21,595
DIFFICULT TO REDUCE OVERTIME 

2840
01:48:21,595 --> 01:48:23,396
USE, EVEN WITH IMPROVED HIRING. 

2841
01:48:23,396 --> 01:48:26,766
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE A 

2842
01:48:26,766 --> 01:48:29,302
DIFFERENT FORCES AT WORK WHEN 

2843
01:48:29,302 --> 01:48:32,005
YOU IMPROVE HIRING, WHEN YOU 

2844
01:48:32,005 --> 01:48:33,573
IMPROVE HIRING, YOU CAN TAKE 

2845
01:48:33,573 --> 01:48:35,041
DOWN SOME OF THE OVERTIME 

2846
01:48:35,041 --> 01:48:36,776
THAT'S USED FOR PATROL 

2847
01:48:36,776 --> 01:48:38,078
AUGMENTATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE 

2848
01:48:38,078 --> 01:48:39,279
MORE MORE BODIES, MORE POLICE 

2849
01:48:39,279 --> 01:48:40,680
OFFICERS TO PUT OUT ON THE 

2850
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,315
STREET. BUT I THINK YOU'VE ALSO

2851
01:48:42,315 --> 01:48:45,218
HEARD SPD SAY THAT THEY FEEL 

2852
01:48:45,218 --> 01:48:46,953
LIKE THEY NEED TO BOLSTER SOME 

2853
01:48:46,953 --> 01:48:48,488
EVENT STAFFING. SO IT IS 

2854
01:48:48,488 --> 01:48:49,756
ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IF THEY 

2855
01:48:49,756 --> 01:48:51,458
HAD MORE BODIES, MORE POLICE 

2856
01:48:51,458 --> 01:48:53,560
OFFICERS, THAT THEY WOULD 

2857
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,328
BOLSTER EVENT STAFFING AND THAT 

2858
01:48:55,328 --> 01:48:56,496
WOULD USE OVERTIME. AS I'VE 

2859
01:48:56,496 --> 01:48:58,765
SAID, AS YOU ADD OFFICERS, YOU 

2860
01:48:58,765 --> 01:49:01,167
ADD OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT OFFICER

2861
01:49:01,167 --> 01:49:01,868
AT THE END OF THEIR SHIFT TO 

2862
01:49:01,868 --> 01:49:04,271
TAKE SOMEONE TO THE HOSPITAL OR 

2863
01:49:04,271 --> 01:49:05,872
JAIL OR DO PAPERWORK, AND THAT 

2864
01:49:05,872 --> 01:49:08,108
WILL ADD OVERTIME. SO IT'S 

2865
01:49:08,108 --> 01:49:09,442
DIFFICULT TO SAY WITH ABSOLUTE 

2866
01:49:09,442 --> 01:49:11,545
CERTAINTY THAT WHEN YOU ADD MORE

2867
01:49:11,545 --> 01:49:13,847
OFFICERS TO THE MIX, THAT 

2868
01:49:13,847 --> 01:49:16,650
OVERALL OVERTIME WILL GO DOWN 

2869
01:49:16,650 --> 01:49:18,285
IT. IT'S THE CASE THAT THERE 

2870
01:49:18,285 --> 01:49:21,187
ARE MULTIPLE FORCES ACTING 

2871
01:49:21,187 --> 01:49:22,989
THERE, AND THAT SOME OF THAT 

2872
01:49:22,989 --> 01:49:25,025
OVERTIME USE YOU WANT YOU WANT 

2873
01:49:25,025 --> 01:49:28,395
TO HAVE OVERTIME, USED TO HAVE 

2874
01:49:28,395 --> 01:49:29,296
OFFICERS CALLED OUT TO THE SCENE

2875
01:49:29,296 --> 01:49:29,930
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. IF 

2876
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:33,433
THERE WAS A SHOOTING. AND SO 

2877
01:49:33,433 --> 01:49:35,535
YES, IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT TO 

2878
01:49:35,535 --> 01:49:38,772
SAY THAT IT WOULD GO DOWN. 

2879
01:49:38,772 --> 01:49:44,344
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LAST 

2880
01:49:44,344 --> 01:49:45,845
QUESTION IS JUST ARE ARE YOU 

2881
01:49:45,845 --> 01:49:51,318
AWARE OF ANY SORT OF CONCERNS OR

2882
01:49:51,318 --> 01:49:52,686
JUST THINKING AROUND. IT SEEMS 

2883
01:49:52,686 --> 01:49:55,255
LIKE WE'VE HAD RECORD NEW HIRES

2884
01:49:55,255 --> 01:50:00,460
IN TERMS OF JUST HOW THAT 

2885
01:50:00,460 --> 01:50:02,696
CHANGES EITHER KIND OF THE, THE 

2886
01:50:02,696 --> 01:50:04,931
LONG TERM STAFFING PLAN OF SPD 

2887
01:50:04,931 --> 01:50:07,634
TO HAVE SORT OF THE SO MANY NEW 

2888
01:50:07,634 --> 01:50:09,002
HIRES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ARE WE

2889
01:50:09,002 --> 01:50:12,038
LOSING SIGNIFICANT SORT OF 

2890
01:50:12,038 --> 01:50:12,672
INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OR, YOU 

2891
01:50:12,672 --> 01:50:13,773
KNOW, IS IT THE RIGHT MIX? I 

2892
01:50:13,773 --> 01:50:16,042
DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SORT

2893
01:50:16,042 --> 01:50:16,609
OF PLAN ON SORT OF WHAT THE 

2894
01:50:16,609 --> 01:50:18,345
RIGHT MIX IS OF NEW HIRES TO 

2895
01:50:18,345 --> 01:50:19,679
EXPERIENCED OFFICERS, JUST 

2896
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:20,680
WONDERING IF THAT'S COME UP AT 

2897
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:22,082
ALL AND SORT OF HOW THAT, YOU 

2898
01:50:22,082 --> 01:50:22,983
KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF 

2899
01:50:22,983 --> 01:50:27,087
THOUGHTS TO WHAT THE RIGHT RATIO

2900
01:50:27,087 --> 01:50:27,253
IS. 

2901
01:50:27,253 --> 01:50:28,288
-- THAT IS A QUESTION THAT IS 

2902
01:50:28,288 --> 01:50:29,289
MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE 

2903
01:50:29,289 --> 01:50:31,491
DEPARTMENT. THE ONLY THING THAT 

2904
01:50:31,491 --> 01:50:33,827
I CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT I SEE IN 

2905
01:50:33,827 --> 01:50:37,330
THE DATA AND IN THE DATA YOU 

2906
01:50:37,330 --> 01:50:39,332
HAVE A FOCUS ON HIRING LATERALS.

2907
01:50:39,332 --> 01:50:40,934
OFFICERS THAT ARE EXPERIENCED 

2908
01:50:40,934 --> 01:50:42,068
NEED LESS TRAINING, CAN HIT THE 

2909
01:50:42,068 --> 01:50:45,305
STREET IMMEDIATELY, BUT THEY'RE

2910
01:50:45,305 --> 01:50:46,373
ALSO FOCUSING ON RECRUITS. SO I 

2911
01:50:46,373 --> 01:50:47,340
CAN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE DOING 

2912
01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:49,042
ONE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER.

2913
01:50:49,042 --> 01:50:49,876
OKAY. 

2914
01:50:49,876 --> 01:50:50,543
-- THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK 

2915
01:50:50,543 --> 01:50:52,012
YOU, CHAIR. 

2916
01:50:52,012 --> 01:50:53,413
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LIN.

2917
01:50:53,413 --> 01:50:54,481
I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS, 

2918
01:50:54,481 --> 01:50:57,684
COLLEAGUES. I WILL NOT ALWAYS 

2919
01:50:57,684 --> 01:50:58,718
VERBALLY CHANGE THE SPEAKERS 

2920
01:50:58,718 --> 01:50:59,953
FLOOR, BUT IF I'M NOT LOOKING 

2921
01:50:59,953 --> 01:51:01,621
AT YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THE 

2922
01:51:01,621 --> 01:51:04,858
FLOOR. SO LAST YEAR, TOWARDS THE

2923
01:51:04,858 --> 01:51:06,159
END OF BUDGET AND THROUGHOUT A 

2924
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:06,926
LOT OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I 

2925
01:51:06,926 --> 01:51:08,928
WAS MUCH MORE STRICT ABOUT USING

2926
01:51:08,928 --> 01:51:10,196
ROBERT'S RULES AND 

2927
01:51:10,196 --> 01:51:12,065
FACILITATION. I'VE BEEN LOOSE AT

2928
01:51:12,065 --> 01:51:13,466
THE BEGINNING OF THIS BUDGET 

2929
01:51:13,466 --> 01:51:16,069
PROCESS. AS WE GET INTO MORE 

2930
01:51:16,069 --> 01:51:17,537
INTENSE TOPICS AND MOVE INTO 

2931
01:51:17,537 --> 01:51:19,239
AMENDMENTS, I WILL BE MORE 

2932
01:51:19,239 --> 01:51:22,242
STRICT WITH MY FACILITATION. MY 

2933
01:51:22,242 --> 01:51:23,777
ONE ASK IS WE DON'T SPEAK OVER 

2934
01:51:23,777 --> 01:51:26,346
EACH OTHER, AND SO THAT IS GOING

2935
01:51:26,346 --> 01:51:28,314
TO BE THE METRIC THAT I USE WHEN

2936
01:51:28,314 --> 01:51:29,349
JUMPING IN TO FACILITATE A 

2937
01:51:29,349 --> 01:51:31,718
LITTLE BIT MORE IS WHEN WE'RE 

2938
01:51:31,718 --> 01:51:32,652
SPEAKING OVER EACH OTHER, WHICH 

2939
01:51:32,652 --> 01:51:35,488
DID OCCUR YESTERDAY. AND 

2940
01:51:35,488 --> 01:51:36,823
SOMETHING THAT I BECAME AWARE 

2941
01:51:36,823 --> 01:51:38,291
OF. SO APPRECIATE YOUR 

2942
01:51:38,291 --> 01:51:40,293
QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

2943
01:51:40,293 --> 01:51:42,328
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. FOLLOWED BY.

2944
01:51:42,328 --> 01:51:43,963
RINCK. FOSTER. AND RIVERA. WE'RE

2945
01:51:43,963 --> 01:51:44,664
GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO AT THE 

2946
01:51:44,664 --> 01:51:46,599
END SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN

2947
01:51:46,599 --> 01:51:48,101
AGAIN WITH THAT. COUNCILMEMBER 

2948
01:51:48,101 --> 01:51:48,301
SAKA. 

2949
01:51:48,301 --> 01:51:50,336
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

2950
01:51:50,336 --> 01:51:53,073
YOU, MR. DOS MR. WHITSON, FOR 

2951
01:51:53,073 --> 01:51:55,542
FOR BEING HERE. FIRST OFF, LET 

2952
01:51:55,542 --> 01:52:01,147
ME JUST START BY SAYING THAT I 

2953
01:52:01,147 --> 01:52:03,349
HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED OVER THE 

2954
01:52:03,349 --> 01:52:07,487
LAST FEW YEARS AT THE AT THE 

2955
01:52:07,487 --> 01:52:12,859
LEVEL OF CENTRAL STAFF ANALYSIS 

2956
01:52:12,859 --> 01:52:15,462
AND, AND THE EFFORT PUT IN TO 

2957
01:52:15,462 --> 01:52:17,831
HELP ADVISE US AND FACILITATE 

2958
01:52:17,831 --> 01:52:20,734
KEY DECISION MAKING ON STRATEGIC

2959
01:52:20,734 --> 01:52:25,171
INITIATIVES, WHATEVER IT IS. AND

2960
01:52:25,171 --> 01:52:27,507
I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED OVER 

2961
01:52:27,507 --> 01:52:28,608
THE COURSE OF THIS THIS CURRENT 

2962
01:52:28,608 --> 01:52:30,210
BUDGET SEASON, BY THE LEVEL OF 

2963
01:52:30,210 --> 01:52:32,278
CENTRAL STAFF ANALYSIS. BUT, MR.

2964
01:52:32,278 --> 01:52:36,116
DOS, LET ME JUST TELL YOU, YOU 

2965
01:52:36,116 --> 01:52:39,219
SET THE BAR EVEN HIGHER HERE 

2966
01:52:39,219 --> 01:52:41,387
TODAY. THE THE DEPTH AND BREADTH

2967
01:52:41,387 --> 01:52:47,894
OF COVERAGE, THE THE ATTEMPTS TO

2968
01:52:47,894 --> 01:52:51,297
SIMPLIFY AND EXPLAIN VERY 

2969
01:52:51,297 --> 01:52:54,267
COMPLEX POLICY CONSTRUCTS, 

2970
01:52:54,267 --> 01:52:55,702
ARGUABLY THE MOST SOLEMN ROLE 

2971
01:52:55,702 --> 01:52:59,239
FOR OUR CENTRAL STAFF EXPERTS IS

2972
01:52:59,239 --> 01:53:05,145
OBJECTIVITY AND NEUTRALITY. THE 

2973
01:53:05,145 --> 01:53:05,745
APPEARANCE OF OBJECTIVITY AND 

2974
01:53:05,745 --> 01:53:07,280
NEUTRALITY AND THE WAY YOU ALL 

2975
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:08,515
STITCH IT, THE WAY YOU STITCH IT

2976
01:53:08,515 --> 01:53:11,985
ALL TOGETHER. AMAZING. A PLUS, 

2977
01:53:11,985 --> 01:53:14,554
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND 

2978
01:53:14,554 --> 01:53:15,588
THAT'S I I'VE HEARD A LOT OF 

2979
01:53:15,588 --> 01:53:21,795
GREAT ANALYSIS SO FAR. BUT, BUT 

2980
01:53:21,795 --> 01:53:22,729
THANK YOU FOR BECAUSE THERE'S A

2981
01:53:22,729 --> 01:53:24,130
LOT GOING ON IN THE PROPOSED 

2982
01:53:24,130 --> 01:53:27,233
BUDGET FOR SPD. SO THANK YOU. 

2983
01:53:27,233 --> 01:53:33,873
GREAT JOB. SEE, LET'S START WITH

2984
01:53:33,873 --> 01:53:38,077
SLIDE 12. THE RECRUITMENT AND 

2985
01:53:38,077 --> 01:53:41,581
MEDIA MARKETING. SO IT SOUNDS 

2986
01:53:41,581 --> 01:53:42,282
LIKE THE EXECUTIVE HAS TAKEN THE

2987
01:53:42,282 --> 01:53:44,617
POSITION THAT BECAUSE OF THE 

2988
01:53:44,617 --> 01:53:48,721
RECENTLY APPROVED SPA CONTRACT, 

2989
01:53:48,721 --> 01:53:51,524
WHICH MAKES SEATTLE POLICE 

2990
01:53:51,524 --> 01:53:53,092
OFFICERS THE HIGHEST PAID IN THE

2991
01:53:53,092 --> 01:53:54,928
STATE AND MAYBE EVEN AMONG THE 

2992
01:53:54,928 --> 01:53:56,095
WEST COAST. FIVE, IF I RECALL 

2993
01:53:56,095 --> 01:54:00,433
CORRECTLY. BUT IN ANY EVENT, THE

2994
01:54:00,433 --> 01:54:02,101
EXECUTIVE'S TAKEN THE POSITION 

2995
01:54:02,101 --> 01:54:03,937
HANGING THEIR HAT ON THAT 

2996
01:54:03,937 --> 01:54:04,904
CONTRACT AND SAYING, WELL, 

2997
01:54:04,904 --> 01:54:08,508
BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT, WE 

2998
01:54:08,508 --> 01:54:11,177
DON'T NEED. THE RECRUITMENT 

2999
01:54:11,177 --> 01:54:16,149
BUDGET TO REACH MORE QUALITY 

3000
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:16,783
CANDIDATES AND APPLICANTS FROM 

3001
01:54:16,783 --> 01:54:21,688
AROUND THE COUNTRY. INCLUDING 

3002
01:54:21,688 --> 01:54:25,925
HBCUS, BY THE WAY BUT WE DON'T 

3003
01:54:25,925 --> 01:54:28,728
NEED THIS SORT OF ROBUST MEDIA 

3004
01:54:28,728 --> 01:54:33,800
MARKETING BLITZ. OKAY? POSITION 

3005
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,335
NUMBER ONE, AND POSITION NUMBER 

3006
01:54:35,335 --> 01:54:38,204
TWO IS WE ALSO DON'T NEED THE 

3007
01:54:38,204 --> 01:54:41,040
OFFICER HIRING INCENTIVE. AND I 

3008
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,077
THINK TAKEN INDIVIDUALLY, 

3009
01:54:44,077 --> 01:54:47,313
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THESE DIRE 

3010
01:54:47,313 --> 01:54:52,018
BUDGET TIMES. THAT'S A THAT'S A

3011
01:54:52,018 --> 01:54:54,287
RATIONAL POSITION, ACTUALLY. 

3012
01:54:54,287 --> 01:54:55,955
EVEN TAKEN COLLECTIVELY, IT'S A

3013
01:54:55,955 --> 01:54:59,025
RATIONAL POSITION. I ACTUALLY 

3014
01:54:59,025 --> 01:54:59,692
DISAGREE WITH SOME OF IT. I'LL 

3015
01:54:59,692 --> 01:55:00,894
TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT, BUT 

3016
01:55:00,894 --> 01:55:03,429
IT'S A RATIONAL POSITION. I 

3017
01:55:03,429 --> 01:55:10,803
UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC THERE. 

3018
01:55:10,803 --> 01:55:15,408
-- BUT I'M LESS. I'M GENERALLY

3019
01:55:15,408 --> 01:55:15,942
LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE 

3020
01:55:15,942 --> 01:55:19,078
RECRUITMENT INCENTIVE, ALTHOUGH 

3021
01:55:19,078 --> 01:55:20,880
I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 

3022
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,182
FOR THE KEY LATERAL POSITIONS, 

3023
01:55:23,182 --> 01:55:25,318
BECAUSE WE KNOW THE BOTTLENECK 

3024
01:55:25,318 --> 01:55:27,687
IN TRAINING AND THE GETTING 

3025
01:55:27,687 --> 01:55:28,921
TRAINEES OFF THE STREET UP TO 

3026
01:55:28,921 --> 01:55:30,690
SPEED. AND WE'VE PREVIOUSLY 

3027
01:55:30,690 --> 01:55:33,092
TALKED IN OTHER FORUMS ABOUT THE

3028
01:55:33,092 --> 01:55:34,827
FIELD TRAINING OFFICER BACKLOG 

3029
01:55:34,827 --> 01:55:38,064
AND THE PIPELINE. IT'S IT'S 

3030
01:55:38,064 --> 01:55:40,767
GETTING MORE LATERAL HIRING, 

3031
01:55:40,767 --> 01:55:42,702
MORE LATERAL HIRING AND 

3032
01:55:42,702 --> 01:55:46,105
RETAINING MORE LATERAL OFFICERS 

3033
01:55:46,105 --> 01:55:47,907
AND RECRUITS IS MISSION CRITICAL

3034
01:55:47,907 --> 01:55:53,479
TO OUR BROADER EFFORTS. BUT THEN

3035
01:55:53,479 --> 01:55:57,684
WE TAKE AWAY ALL OFFICER HIRING 

3036
01:55:57,684 --> 01:55:58,551
INCENTIVES AND MARKETING PLAN 

3037
01:55:58,551 --> 01:56:01,321
AND, AND, AND TARGETED SORT OF 

3038
01:56:01,321 --> 01:56:05,858
MEDIA BUYS AND RELYING INSTEAD 

3039
01:56:05,858 --> 01:56:07,327
SOLELY ON EARNED MEDIA AND OUR 

3040
01:56:07,327 --> 01:56:12,498
OWN PUBLISHING ON OUR OWN. I, 

3041
01:56:12,498 --> 01:56:13,366
WELL, I, I UNDERSTAND THE 

3042
01:56:13,366 --> 01:56:15,268
POSITION. I JUST DISAGREE WITH 

3043
01:56:15,268 --> 01:56:17,003
BOTH OF THOSE THINGS 

3044
01:56:17,003 --> 01:56:18,805
COLLECTIVELY BECAUSE WE'RE 

3045
01:56:18,805 --> 01:56:22,008
EFFECTIVELY TAKING, TAKING OUT 

3046
01:56:22,008 --> 01:56:23,209
TWO ARROWS IN THE QUIVER AND 

3047
01:56:23,209 --> 01:56:24,110
JUST HANGING OUR HAT ON. WE GOT 

3048
01:56:24,110 --> 01:56:27,113
WHAT WE GOT THIS ONE BIG ARROW. 

3049
01:56:27,113 --> 01:56:31,517
THAT'S IT. THAT SHOULD DO IT. I

3050
01:56:31,517 --> 01:56:35,722
FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH WITH

3051
01:56:35,722 --> 01:56:38,024
THAT APPROACH. SO THAT'S JUST 

3052
01:56:38,024 --> 01:56:41,661
MORE OF A COMMENT MOVING ON TO 

3053
01:56:41,661 --> 01:56:47,166
NUMBER 15. SLIDE 15. PARKING 

3054
01:56:47,166 --> 01:56:49,068
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. SO PARKING

3055
01:56:49,068 --> 01:56:50,603
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHAT DO 

3056
01:56:50,603 --> 01:56:51,871
THEY DO. THIS IS THE BASICS. 

3057
01:56:51,871 --> 01:56:53,539
THIS IS THE NITTY GRITTY BASICS 

3058
01:56:53,539 --> 01:56:58,711
OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS HOW

3059
01:56:58,711 --> 01:57:01,514
MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT KEEPS 

3060
01:57:01,514 --> 01:57:04,751
PEOPLE SAFE, GETS STUFF DONE. 

3061
01:57:04,751 --> 01:57:07,720
THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE 

3062
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:11,224
CRUSHING. FIRST AND FOREMOST. 

3063
01:57:11,224 --> 01:57:11,724
AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

3064
01:57:11,724 --> 01:57:13,626
OFFICERS, TO YOUR POINT, ENFORCE

3065
01:57:13,626 --> 01:57:17,997
THE RULES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY 

3066
01:57:17,997 --> 01:57:20,566
AND SPANNING A COUPLE YEARS NOW,

3067
01:57:20,566 --> 01:57:26,038
WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT GAP 

3068
01:57:26,038 --> 01:57:27,073
BETWEEN THE AUTHORIZED MAX AND 

3069
01:57:27,073 --> 01:57:27,707
WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT IN 

3070
01:57:27,707 --> 01:57:29,575
TERMS OF STAFFING. AND WE'VE 

3071
01:57:29,575 --> 01:57:30,176
DONE VARIOUS THINGS OVER THE 

3072
01:57:30,176 --> 01:57:33,146
YEARS TO, TO HELP THE EMPOWER 

3073
01:57:33,146 --> 01:57:36,949
THE DEPARTMENT TO BOOST THEIR 

3074
01:57:36,949 --> 01:57:40,553
PUBLIC PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

3075
01:57:40,553 --> 01:57:41,154
OFFICER STAFFING LEVELS, BUT 

3076
01:57:41,154 --> 01:57:42,522
THEY ULTIMATELY HELP KEEP PEOPLE

3077
01:57:42,522 --> 01:57:46,092
SAFE I SEE, I VIEW THEM, IT'S 

3078
01:57:46,092 --> 01:57:47,293
NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR

3079
01:57:47,293 --> 01:57:49,962
INTERACTIONS. AND WITH U, C, T 

3080
01:57:49,962 --> 01:57:56,536
OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS THEY HELP 

3081
01:57:56,536 --> 01:57:57,069
WITH ENFORCE DAY LIGHTING 

3082
01:57:57,069 --> 01:57:58,538
RESTRICTIONS. WE TALKED A LOT 

3083
01:57:58,538 --> 01:58:00,873
ABOUT DAY LIGHTING IN SOME OF 

3084
01:58:00,873 --> 01:58:03,509
THE SAFER STREETS LEGISLATION. I

3085
01:58:03,509 --> 01:58:04,544
HAD SOME CONSTITUENTS THAT WERE 

3086
01:58:04,544 --> 01:58:05,945
COMPLAINING TO MY OFFICE FOR 

3087
01:58:05,945 --> 01:58:07,013
MONTHS BECAUSE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF 

3088
01:58:07,013 --> 01:58:09,048
A SCHOOL IN WEST SEATTLE, THERE 

3089
01:58:09,048 --> 01:58:12,318
WAS TWO BIG TRUCKS, BIG TRUCKS, 

3090
01:58:12,318 --> 01:58:15,087
KIND OF CARGO DELIVERY TRUCKS. 

3091
01:58:15,087 --> 01:58:16,122
TWO OF THEM PARKED AT THE VERY 

3092
01:58:16,122 --> 01:58:19,826
END OF AN INTERSECTION, NOT 

3093
01:58:19,826 --> 01:58:21,294
WITHIN THE 30FT. WE'RE IDEALLY,

3094
01:58:21,294 --> 01:58:23,563
IT HAVE BEEN DAYLIGHTED, BUT THE

3095
01:58:23,563 --> 01:58:25,865
VERY THE TIP OF THE INTERSECTION

3096
01:58:25,865 --> 01:58:26,432
PARKED THERE FOR MONTHS AND 

3097
01:58:26,432 --> 01:58:29,368
MONTHS AND MONTHS. NOT MOVE, NOT

3098
01:58:29,368 --> 01:58:31,671
NOT TICKETED. AND THIS IS RIGHT 

3099
01:58:31,671 --> 01:58:33,439
WHERE SOME OF OUR MOST 

3100
01:58:33,439 --> 01:58:35,074
VULNERABLE USERS ARE VULNERABLE 

3101
01:58:35,074 --> 01:58:36,142
TRAVELERS IN THE IN THE SAFER 

3102
01:58:36,142 --> 01:58:39,579
STREETS. ADOPTING THAT FRAMEWORK

3103
01:58:39,579 --> 01:58:40,079
ARE REGULARLY CROSSING 

3104
01:58:40,079 --> 01:58:41,347
PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS. 

3105
01:58:41,347 --> 01:58:43,583
DANGEROUS. IT'S DANGEROUS. 

3106
01:58:43,583 --> 01:58:49,989
IT'S DANGEROUS. AND. AND OUR 

3107
01:58:49,989 --> 01:58:52,692
ABILITY TO HIRE OR NOT HIRE 

3108
01:58:52,692 --> 01:58:56,062
THESE CRITICAL PEOS IMPACTS, 

3109
01:58:56,062 --> 01:58:58,097
WHETHER THAT INTERSECTION, THAT 

3110
01:58:58,097 --> 01:58:59,432
ONE PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IN 

3111
01:58:59,432 --> 01:59:02,301
WEST SEATTLE IS GOING TO BE. 

3112
01:59:02,301 --> 01:59:04,470
STEPS ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN TO 

3113
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:06,739
HELP MAKE IT SAFER. THESE ARE 

3114
01:59:06,739 --> 01:59:08,241
THESE ARE MISSION CRITICAL 

3115
01:59:08,241 --> 01:59:09,375
ROLES. AND WE'VE DONE A LOT 

3116
01:59:09,375 --> 01:59:11,144
OVER THE YEARS TO TRY AND 

3117
01:59:11,144 --> 01:59:13,379
EMPOWER THE DEPARTMENT TO, TO 

3118
01:59:13,379 --> 01:59:16,048
HIRE MORE. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S 

3119
01:59:16,048 --> 01:59:17,884
NOT WORKING. IT HASN'T WORKED 

3120
01:59:17,884 --> 01:59:22,255
FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. YOU 

3121
01:59:22,255 --> 01:59:28,828
TALKED, MR. DOSS, ABOUT THE. THE

3122
01:59:28,828 --> 01:59:31,764
PERVERSE INCENTIVE OR THE 

3123
01:59:31,764 --> 01:59:32,698
DISINCENTIVE RATHER. I THINK 

3124
01:59:32,698 --> 01:59:35,067
THAT WAS YOUR YOUR TERMINOLOGY 

3125
01:59:35,067 --> 01:59:36,502
FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN BASICALLY 

3126
01:59:36,502 --> 01:59:38,037
THE STATUS QUO AND NOT ACTUALLY 

3127
01:59:38,037 --> 01:59:41,173
HIRE THESE THESE MISSION 

3128
01:59:41,173 --> 01:59:47,046
CRITICAL BACKFILL ROLES. WHAT 

3129
01:59:47,046 --> 01:59:50,416
JUST CURIOUS WHAT OTHER COUNSEL 

3130
01:59:50,416 --> 01:59:51,551
OPTIONS COULD BE CONSIDERED TO 

3131
01:59:51,551 --> 01:59:54,186
SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE 

3132
01:59:54,186 --> 01:59:58,257
DISINCENTIVE CHALLENGE THAT YOU 

3133
01:59:58,257 --> 02:00:03,262
MENTIONED EARLIER BEYOND A SLI, 

3134
02:00:03,262 --> 02:00:05,932
LIKE WHAT ELSE, WHAT OTHER 

3135
02:00:05,932 --> 02:00:10,336
COUNSEL OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO

3136
02:00:10,336 --> 02:00:11,003
ADDRESS THAT DISINCENTIVE? IT'S

3137
02:00:11,003 --> 02:00:11,971
NOT WORKING. 

3138
02:00:11,971 --> 02:00:14,307
-- MR. DOSS? 

3139
02:00:14,307 --> 02:00:15,541
-- THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I 

3140
02:00:15,541 --> 02:00:17,243
NEED TO THANK YOU FOR THE 

3141
02:00:17,243 --> 02:00:18,211
COMPLIMENT, AND I NEED TO SAY 

3142
02:00:18,211 --> 02:00:21,747
THAT THE THE 20 SOME PAGE ISSUE 

3143
02:00:21,747 --> 02:00:24,984
PAPER THAT I, I WROTE THAT'S 

3144
02:00:24,984 --> 02:00:27,887
VERY LONG AND FULL OF DETAIL. 

3145
02:00:27,887 --> 02:00:30,656
AND DATA IS ONLY POSSIBLE. AND 

3146
02:00:30,656 --> 02:00:31,190
THIS PRESENTATION IS ONLY 

3147
02:00:31,190 --> 02:00:32,925
POSSIBLE BECAUSE I GET REALLY 

3148
02:00:32,925 --> 02:00:34,460
GOOD SUPPORT FROM THE SEATTLE 

3149
02:00:34,460 --> 02:00:35,761
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE 

3150
02:00:35,761 --> 02:00:37,229
CITY BUDGET OFFICE AND FROM THE 

3151
02:00:37,229 --> 02:00:39,398
MAYOR'S OFFICE. THEY RECOGNIZE 

3152
02:00:39,398 --> 02:00:41,267
THAT WE'RE TALKING TODAY ABOUT 

3153
02:00:41,267 --> 02:00:44,103
POLICY DECISIONS AND POLICY 

3154
02:00:44,103 --> 02:00:45,204
DECISIONS DIFFER DEPENDING ON 

3155
02:00:45,204 --> 02:00:46,706
THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT THEY 

3156
02:00:46,706 --> 02:00:49,342
RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE ALL WE'RE

3157
02:00:49,342 --> 02:00:51,544
ALL WORKING AT THE SAME CITY. WE

3158
02:00:51,544 --> 02:00:52,111
ALL BENEFIT FROM HAVING THE 

3159
02:00:52,111 --> 02:00:54,614
RIGHT INFORMATION. AND, YOU 

3160
02:00:54,614 --> 02:00:56,048
KNOW, THEY ANSWER QUESTIONS 

3161
02:00:56,048 --> 02:00:57,049
OVERNIGHT. THEY ANSWER QUESTIONS

3162
02:00:57,049 --> 02:00:57,783
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. I 

3163
02:00:57,783 --> 02:00:59,819
ASK THEM A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO 

3164
02:00:59,819 --> 02:01:02,822
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND 

3165
02:01:02,822 --> 02:01:08,194
RECOGNIZE THEM TO YOUR QUESTION.

3166
02:01:08,194 --> 02:01:10,463
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA IT ABOUT THE 

3167
02:01:10,463 --> 02:01:12,098
ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF THE 

3168
02:01:12,098 --> 02:01:13,366
SAME THING I SUGGESTED LAST 

3169
02:01:13,366 --> 02:01:15,601
YEAR, YOU COULD ADD 2.1 MILLION 

3170
02:01:15,601 --> 02:01:18,104
TO THE BUDGET, PROVISO IT AND 

3171
02:01:18,104 --> 02:01:21,207
SAY THIS MONEY IS AVAILABLE IF 

3172
02:01:21,207 --> 02:01:26,579
YOU HIRE THE PEOS I HAVE BEEN 

3173
02:01:26,579 --> 02:01:27,246
TOLD THAT ON THE EXECUTIVE SIDE,

3174
02:01:27,246 --> 02:01:29,282
THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONCERN THAT

3175
02:01:29,282 --> 02:01:31,050
IF THEY HIRED THE PEOS, THE 

3176
02:01:31,050 --> 02:01:33,552
PROVISO WOULDN'T BE RELEASED. I

3177
02:01:33,552 --> 02:01:35,821
DON'T KNOW HOW SOMETHING LIKE 

3178
02:01:35,821 --> 02:01:38,424
THAT MIGHT BE ADDRESSED. IT'S 

3179
02:01:38,424 --> 02:01:39,859
SOMETHING THAT I'M HAPPY TO 

3180
02:01:39,859 --> 02:01:40,926
WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE ON OVER 

3181
02:01:40,926 --> 02:01:43,496
THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. AND 

3182
02:01:43,496 --> 02:01:47,500
BRAINSTORM OPTIONS 

3183
02:01:47,500 --> 02:01:48,000
-- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

3184
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:52,505
-- THANK YOU, MR. DOSS. 

3185
02:01:52,505 --> 02:01:53,939
APPRECIATE THAT. GOING BACK TO 

3186
02:01:53,939 --> 02:01:56,075
SLIDE THREE, JUST WANT TO JUST 

3187
02:01:56,075 --> 02:02:00,212
WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I HEARD 

3188
02:02:00,212 --> 02:02:00,846
YOU APPROPRIATELY MENTIONED THE,

3189
02:02:00,846 --> 02:02:03,616
YOU KNOW, SORT OF OR ALLUDE TO 

3190
02:02:03,616 --> 02:02:05,785
THE FACT INFER THE SORT OF 

3191
02:02:05,785 --> 02:02:09,055
REASON FOR THE, THE REDUCTION, 

3192
02:02:09,055 --> 02:02:12,224
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN, IN 

3193
02:02:12,224 --> 02:02:12,858
OFFICER STAFFING OVER THE YEARS,

3194
02:02:12,858 --> 02:02:16,896
YOU KNOW, FROM OUR 2019 OR 20 

3195
02:02:16,896 --> 02:02:18,331
20th JUNE OR WHATEVER PEAK HIGH 

3196
02:02:18,331 --> 02:02:22,034
IT WAS. AND, YOU KNOW, REFERRING

3197
02:02:22,034 --> 02:02:24,036
APPROPRIATELY. SO TO, TO COVID. 

3198
02:02:24,036 --> 02:02:25,604
AND YES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY 

3199
02:02:25,604 --> 02:02:28,541
TRUE. JUST BUT FOR CRYSTAL 

3200
02:02:28,541 --> 02:02:30,076
CLARITY, ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT 

3201
02:02:30,076 --> 02:02:31,977
REASON FOR THAT WAS THE DEFUND 

3202
02:02:31,977 --> 02:02:34,847
MOVEMENT IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE.

3203
02:02:34,847 --> 02:02:39,185
AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A THEORY.

3204
02:02:39,185 --> 02:02:39,819
IT'S ACTUALLY UNCONTROVERTED 

3205
02:02:39,819 --> 02:02:44,457
FACTS THAT THE DEFUND MOVEMENT 

3206
02:02:44,457 --> 02:02:46,992
CONTRIBUTED TO THE SIGNIFICANT 

3207
02:02:46,992 --> 02:02:49,995
REDUCTION IN IN OFFICER STAFFING

3208
02:02:49,995 --> 02:02:50,663
LEVELS. SURE. I SUPPOSE WE CAN 

3209
02:02:50,663 --> 02:02:52,498
QUIBBLE AROUND THE EDGES, AROUND

3210
02:02:52,498 --> 02:02:55,234
THE EXTENT OF THAT, BUT IT'S 

3211
02:02:55,234 --> 02:02:57,002
UNCONTROVERTED FACT THAT 

3212
02:02:57,002 --> 02:02:58,504
CONTRIBUTED TO IT. AND I WOULD 

3213
02:02:58,504 --> 02:02:59,739
ARGUE GREATLY CONTRIBUTED TO IT.

3214
02:02:59,739 --> 02:03:04,677
AND THERE'S AND IT'S BACKED BY

3215
02:03:04,677 --> 02:03:07,580
EVIDENCE IN TERMS OF EXIT 

3216
02:03:07,580 --> 02:03:09,949
SURVEYS. WE LOST OUR WE FAMOUSLY

3217
02:03:09,949 --> 02:03:13,786
OR INFAMOUSLY LOST OUR CITY'S 

3218
02:03:13,786 --> 02:03:17,123
VERY FIRST BLACK WOMAN POLICE 

3219
02:03:17,123 --> 02:03:21,727
CHIEF BECAUSE OF DEFUND. SO, SO 

3220
02:03:21,727 --> 02:03:23,963
JUST WANT TO LEVEL SET AND 

3221
02:03:23,963 --> 02:03:26,632
CLARIFY THE RECORD BECAUSE COVID

3222
02:03:26,632 --> 02:03:28,834
WAS A GLOBAL CRISIS AND WE 

3223
02:03:28,834 --> 02:03:31,270
EXPERIENCED IMPACTS OF THAT. AND

3224
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:33,038
AS IT RELATES TO SPD STAFFING, 

3225
02:03:33,038 --> 02:03:35,674
OTHER STAFFING OF OTHER CITY 

3226
02:03:35,674 --> 02:03:37,343
DEPARTMENTS AS WELL, PART OF A 

3227
02:03:37,343 --> 02:03:39,812
BROADER NATIONAL, WE CONTROL OUR

3228
02:03:39,812 --> 02:03:42,982
CONTROLLABLES. AND AND THAT WAS 

3229
02:03:42,982 --> 02:03:44,049
WRONG THEN. WRONG NOW. AND I SAY

3230
02:03:44,049 --> 02:03:47,086
THAT BECAUSE CONTEXT MATTERS. 

3231
02:03:47,086 --> 02:03:49,555
THAT'S MATTERS. FACTS MATTER. 

3232
02:03:49,555 --> 02:03:51,290
HISTORY MATTERS. AND TO QUOTE 

3233
02:03:51,290 --> 02:03:52,725
WINSTON CHURCHILL, THOSE THAT 

3234
02:03:52,725 --> 02:03:54,360
FAIL TO LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE 

3235
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:58,564
DOOMED TO REPEAT IT. SO JUST 

3236
02:03:58,564 --> 02:04:00,399
WANT TO KIND OF LEVEL SET ON HOW

3237
02:04:00,399 --> 02:04:01,934
WE GOT TO THE CURRENT STATE, 

3238
02:04:01,934 --> 02:04:03,302
BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN JUST 

3239
02:04:03,302 --> 02:04:04,837
COVID AND ALL THESE OTHER 

3240
02:04:04,837 --> 02:04:09,175
THINGS. YES. THAT'S TRUE. YES. 

3241
02:04:09,175 --> 02:04:15,047
AND. FINALLY GOING TO SLIDE 24, 

3242
02:04:15,047 --> 02:04:19,618
JUST CURIOUS. SO ON THE RADIO 

3243
02:04:19,618 --> 02:04:20,820
ENCRYPTION LINE ITEM THERE. SO 

3244
02:04:20,820 --> 02:04:21,620
COLLEAGUES, AS YOU KNOW, WE GET 

3245
02:04:21,620 --> 02:04:24,590
A LOT OF WE HEAR A LOT OF GREAT 

3246
02:04:24,590 --> 02:04:27,526
IDEAS ALL THE TIME FROM OUR 

3247
02:04:27,526 --> 02:04:28,027
CONSTITUENTS, ADVOCACY 

3248
02:04:28,027 --> 02:04:29,695
ORGANIZATIONS AND SUGGESTIONS 

3249
02:04:29,695 --> 02:04:31,263
AND, AND ONE IDEA THAT I 

3250
02:04:31,263 --> 02:04:34,366
REMEMBER HEARING VIVIDLY EARLIER

3251
02:04:34,366 --> 02:04:36,936
ON IN MY, IN 2024, AFTER SHORTLY

3252
02:04:36,936 --> 02:04:39,705
AFTER I TOOK OFFICE, WAS FROM A 

3253
02:04:39,705 --> 02:04:41,740
CONSTITUENT NAMED MR. PATRICK 

3254
02:04:41,740 --> 02:04:44,710
ROBINSON. HE'S THE HE OWNS AND 

3255
02:04:44,710 --> 02:04:45,678
OPERATES THE WEST SIDE SEATTLE. 

3256
02:04:45,678 --> 02:04:47,746
SO HE'S ALSO A JOURNALIST. AND 

3257
02:04:47,746 --> 02:04:53,819
HIM AND HIS FAMILY BEFORE THAT 

3258
02:04:53,819 --> 02:04:56,755
OPERATED THE THE STORIED AND AND

3259
02:04:56,755 --> 02:04:58,190
VERY FAMOUS WEST SEATTLE HERALD 

3260
02:04:58,190 --> 02:05:01,961
PRINT EDITION AND BUT HE WAS HE 

3261
02:05:01,961 --> 02:05:04,830
WAS INQUIRING AND GIVING ME SOME

3262
02:05:04,830 --> 02:05:07,566
IDEAS ABOUT RADIO ENCRYPTION 

3263
02:05:07,566 --> 02:05:09,034
TECHNOLOGY AND WHETHER OR NOT 

3264
02:05:09,034 --> 02:05:09,668
THAT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE 

3265
02:05:09,668 --> 02:05:11,337
FOR SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

3266
02:05:11,337 --> 02:05:12,805
AND BASED OFF OF WHAT OTHER 

3267
02:05:12,805 --> 02:05:14,440
CITIES WERE WERE DOING. AND I 

3268
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,276
LOOKED INTO IT AND HAD MULTIPLE 

3269
02:05:17,276 --> 02:05:18,878
CONVERSATIONS WITH. THIS IS, I 

3270
02:05:18,878 --> 02:05:21,313
GUESS, MY FOURTH POLICE CHIEF AS

3271
02:05:21,313 --> 02:05:23,482
WELL, WITH A FEW OF THE EARLIER 

3272
02:05:23,482 --> 02:05:24,083
POLICE CHIEFS. AND I THINK AT 

3273
02:05:24,083 --> 02:05:25,651
THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THERE 

3274
02:05:25,651 --> 02:05:26,752
THERE'S TRADE OFFS FOR IT AND 

3275
02:05:26,752 --> 02:05:28,554
AGAINST IT AND ALL ALL THE 

3276
02:05:28,554 --> 02:05:30,322
THINGS AS THERE IS IN ANY 

3277
02:05:30,322 --> 02:05:32,458
INVESTMENT DECISION OR 

3278
02:05:32,458 --> 02:05:36,128
PURCHASING DECISION. BUT WHERE I

3279
02:05:36,128 --> 02:05:38,497
LANDED AT THE TIME, OR JUST 

3280
02:05:38,497 --> 02:05:39,098
LEARNING AND TALKING DIRECTLY 

3281
02:05:39,098 --> 02:05:42,701
FROM PRIOR POLICE LEADERSHIP, IS

3282
02:05:42,701 --> 02:05:43,702
THAT WAS IT NEEDED AT THE 

3283
02:05:43,702 --> 02:05:45,271
MOMENT? SOUNDS LIKE THAT 

3284
02:05:45,271 --> 02:05:46,272
DECISION HAS HAS BEEN CHANGED. 

3285
02:05:46,272 --> 02:05:48,807
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE 

3286
02:05:48,807 --> 02:05:51,710
ABOUT THIS RADIO ENCRYPTION LINE

3287
02:05:51,710 --> 02:05:53,512
ITEM? WOULD THAT WOULD THAT 

3288
02:05:53,512 --> 02:05:55,848
COVER END TO END ENCRYPTION OF 

3289
02:05:55,848 --> 02:05:58,284
OF THE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS? 

3290
02:05:58,284 --> 02:05:58,884
SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE 

3291
02:05:58,884 --> 02:06:03,756
LATENT RADIO COMMUNICATION 

3292
02:06:03,756 --> 02:06:06,091
WHEREBY IT'S THE THE COMMS IS 

3293
02:06:06,091 --> 02:06:07,593
IS DELAYED BY 30 MINUTES, A 

3294
02:06:07,593 --> 02:06:08,794
SPECIFIED PERIOD, WHETHER IT'S 

3295
02:06:08,794 --> 02:06:10,262
30 MINUTES, AN HOUR, WHATEVER IT

3296
02:06:10,262 --> 02:06:11,363
IS. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT 

3297
02:06:11,363 --> 02:06:13,365
MORE ABOUT THIS, THIS RADIO 

3298
02:06:13,365 --> 02:06:14,300
ENCRYPTION LINE ITEM AND HOW IT 

3299
02:06:14,300 --> 02:06:16,135
CAME TO BE ABOUT. 

3300
02:06:16,135 --> 02:06:18,537
-- MR. DOS? 

3301
02:06:18,537 --> 02:06:19,605
-- THANK YOU. I'M SORRY TO HAVE

3302
02:06:19,605 --> 02:06:21,206
TO DISAPPOINT YOU. I FEEL REALLY

3303
02:06:21,206 --> 02:06:22,474
BAD, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING 

3304
02:06:22,474 --> 02:06:25,678
ABOUT RADIO ENCRYPTION. YEAH, MY

3305
02:06:25,678 --> 02:06:27,947
POINT FOR THIS SLIDE WAS TO TO 

3306
02:06:27,947 --> 02:06:30,015
SHOW YOU WHAT WAS IN THE 

3307
02:06:30,015 --> 02:06:31,483
SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET. AND TO MAKE

3308
02:06:31,483 --> 02:06:33,319
THE POINT THAT SPD IS NOW AT A 

3309
02:06:33,319 --> 02:06:36,055
PLACE WHERE THEY ARE ASKING FOR 

3310
02:06:36,055 --> 02:06:36,655
THESE SPECIFIC THINGS BECAUSE 

3311
02:06:36,655 --> 02:06:39,058
THEY CAN'T ABSORB THEM IN THEIR

3312
02:06:39,058 --> 02:06:40,426
EXISTING EQUIPMENT BUDGET OR IN 

3313
02:06:40,426 --> 02:06:41,060
THEIR OTHER BUDGETS. BUT I WILL 

3314
02:06:41,060 --> 02:06:44,797
FIND OUT AND I WILL GET YOU THAT

3315
02:06:44,797 --> 02:06:45,130
INFORMATION. 

3316
02:06:45,130 --> 02:06:45,764
-- COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER 

3317
02:06:45,764 --> 02:06:45,965
SAKA. 

3318
02:06:45,965 --> 02:06:46,532
-- THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE 

3319
02:06:46,532 --> 02:06:47,466
GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND SHOUT 

3320
02:06:47,466 --> 02:06:51,537
OUT TO MR. ROBINSON IN WEST 

3321
02:06:51,537 --> 02:06:53,973
SEATTLE. FINALLY, I'LL NOTE THAT

3322
02:06:53,973 --> 02:06:56,942
I TOO, I SHARE MY COLLEAGUE'S 

3323
02:06:56,942 --> 02:06:59,011
CONCERN ABOUT THE CONSISTENT, 

3324
02:06:59,011 --> 02:07:00,245
YOU KNOW, LACK OF EFFORT, 

3325
02:07:00,245 --> 02:07:02,314
MOVEMENT, MOMENTUM TO HIRE THAT 

3326
02:07:02,314 --> 02:07:07,052
CRITICAL 30 BY 30 POSITION. THE 

3327
02:07:07,052 --> 02:07:09,588
BROADER DEI EFFORTS APPRECIATE 

3328
02:07:09,588 --> 02:07:10,222
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA CONSISTENT 

3329
02:07:10,222 --> 02:07:15,160
LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND AMONG 

3330
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:18,163
OTHER THINGS, THE. THIS 

3331
02:07:18,163 --> 02:07:21,033
DEPARTMENT HAS HAS SOME 

3332
02:07:21,033 --> 02:07:21,667
WELL-DOCUMENTED CHALLENGES WITH 

3333
02:07:21,667 --> 02:07:31,644
CULTURE WELL DOCUMENTED. AND WE 

3334
02:07:31,644 --> 02:07:32,878
THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT 

3335
02:07:32,878 --> 02:07:34,446
IS A. PERSPECTIVE IS AN 

3336
02:07:34,446 --> 02:07:37,583
IMPORTANT. PERSPECTIVE IS NOT 

3337
02:07:37,583 --> 02:07:39,918
THE ONLY THE BEST NECESSARILY. 

3338
02:07:39,918 --> 02:07:41,086
PERSPECTIVE IN THIS CASE OR IN 

3339
02:07:41,086 --> 02:07:42,621
GENERAL, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT 

3340
02:07:42,621 --> 02:07:44,123
PERSPECTIVE. WE THINK. AND THE 

3341
02:07:44,123 --> 02:07:46,058
COUNCIL THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS

3342
02:07:46,058 --> 02:07:48,861
THAT HIRING THIS ROLE CAN HELP 

3343
02:07:48,861 --> 02:07:52,965
ADDRESS THAT. AND WE'VE HAD SOME

3344
02:07:52,965 --> 02:07:55,467
PREVIOUS CONVERSATION AROUND, 

3345
02:07:55,467 --> 02:07:57,703
WELL, MAYBE IT'S NOT THIS. AND 

3346
02:07:57,703 --> 02:08:01,040
THEN WHAT ELSE? I JUST HAVEN'T 

3347
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:02,841
SEEN THE WHAT ELSE FROM THE 

3348
02:08:02,841 --> 02:08:04,810
DEPARTMENT. AND SO UNLESS AND 

3349
02:08:04,810 --> 02:08:10,649
UNTIL I SEE THE WHAT ELSE, WHAT 

3350
02:08:10,649 --> 02:08:13,452
ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS. ARE YOU 

3351
02:08:13,452 --> 02:08:15,554
EMPLOYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF 

3352
02:08:15,554 --> 02:08:16,989
THESE CHALLENGES? I GOT TO 

3353
02:08:16,989 --> 02:08:18,657
CONTINUE TO HANG MY HAT ON THE 

3354
02:08:18,657 --> 02:08:21,894
ON THE, THE MISSION CRITICAL 

3355
02:08:21,894 --> 02:08:24,363
NATURE OF THE 30 BY 30 POSITION 

3356
02:08:24,363 --> 02:08:27,032
AND THE DEI ROLES TO TO HELP 

3357
02:08:27,032 --> 02:08:29,835
IMPROVE THE CULTURE. AGAIN, 

3358
02:08:29,835 --> 02:08:31,437
WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE 

3359
02:08:31,437 --> 02:08:32,404
CONVERSATIONS DIRECTLY WITH THE 

3360
02:08:32,404 --> 02:08:36,308
EXECUTIVE AND SPD, BUT I 

3361
02:08:36,308 --> 02:08:40,312
HAVEN'T SEEN A WORKABLE 

3362
02:08:40,312 --> 02:08:43,549
ALTERNATIVE PUT FORWARD. TO TO 

3363
02:08:43,549 --> 02:08:44,917
JUSTIFY THE OR FRANKLY, OBVIATE 

3364
02:08:44,917 --> 02:08:46,585
THE NEED TO TO HIRE THIS 

3365
02:08:46,585 --> 02:08:49,488
CRITICAL ROLE. SO LOOKING 

3366
02:08:49,488 --> 02:08:52,291
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT WORK 

3367
02:08:52,291 --> 02:08:54,726
ON THIS COUNCIL TOGETHER. THANK 

3368
02:08:54,726 --> 02:08:55,027
YOU CHAIR. 

3369
02:08:55,027 --> 02:08:55,694
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA

3370
02:08:55,694 --> 02:08:56,462
COMMITTEE TABLE. ANYTHING TO ADD

3371
02:08:56,462 --> 02:08:57,830
AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE'RE

3372
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:59,898
GOING TO GO ON TO COUNCILMEMBER 

3373
02:08:59,898 --> 02:09:02,000
ALEXIS MERCEDES RINCK FOLLOWED 

3374
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:03,168
BY COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. AND 

3375
02:09:03,168 --> 02:09:04,103
THEN ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE 

3376
02:09:04,103 --> 02:09:06,271
TO SPEAK AND WILL BE CLOSED OUT 

3377
02:09:06,271 --> 02:09:08,073
BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA BEFORE 

3378
02:09:08,073 --> 02:09:09,541
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. WITH THAT 

3379
02:09:09,541 --> 02:09:11,210
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. WELCOME. 

3380
02:09:11,210 --> 02:09:14,546
-- THANK YOU CHAIR STRAUSS. 

3381
02:09:14,546 --> 02:09:15,147
BEFORE GOING INTO MY SPECIFIC 

3382
02:09:15,147 --> 02:09:16,782
QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSED 

3383
02:09:16,782 --> 02:09:18,150
DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND POLICY 

3384
02:09:18,150 --> 02:09:20,252
CONSIDERATIONS, I'D LIKE TO 

3385
02:09:20,252 --> 02:09:21,987
OFFER A FEW OVERARCHING REMARKS 

3386
02:09:21,987 --> 02:09:23,489
RELATED TO THIS, AND I HAVE A 

3387
02:09:23,489 --> 02:09:24,857
FEW QUESTIONS FOR OUR CENTRAL 

3388
02:09:24,857 --> 02:09:26,558
STAFF. DIRECTOR LISH WHITSON. 

3389
02:09:26,558 --> 02:09:28,560
JUST A PLACE THIS BUDGET, THIS 

3390
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:29,561
DEPARTMENT BUDGET, AND TO THE 

3391
02:09:29,561 --> 02:09:33,932
BROADER CONTEXT OF THE PROPOSED 

3392
02:09:33,932 --> 02:09:35,167
EXECUTIVE'S BUDGET. TO BE VERY 

3393
02:09:35,167 --> 02:09:37,870
CLEAR, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A 

3394
02:09:37,870 --> 02:09:42,274
$68 MILLION INCREASE TO SPD OVER

3395
02:09:42,274 --> 02:09:44,810
13% THIS WOULD TAKE THE 

3396
02:09:44,810 --> 02:09:48,881
DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO OVER HALF 

3397
02:09:48,881 --> 02:09:49,815
$1 BILLION. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS

3398
02:09:49,815 --> 02:09:52,518
DUE IN LARGE PART TO FULFILLING 

3399
02:09:52,518 --> 02:09:54,153
THE OBLIGATIONS FOR THE SEATTLE 

3400
02:09:54,153 --> 02:09:57,523
POLICE OFFICERS GUILD UNION 

3401
02:09:57,523 --> 02:09:59,858
CONTRACT AND AS WELL AS 

3402
02:09:59,858 --> 02:10:03,495
ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO FULFILL A 

3403
02:10:03,495 --> 02:10:05,330
STAFFING PLAN. AND I WANT TO 

3404
02:10:05,330 --> 02:10:06,732
ALSO NOTE IN THIS AND HOPE WE 

3405
02:10:06,732 --> 02:10:08,033
CAN DIG INTO DISCUSSION LATER 

3406
02:10:08,033 --> 02:10:10,435
ABOUT THE $13 MILLION 

3407
02:10:10,435 --> 02:10:14,940
OVERPAYMENT AS A PART OF THAT 

3408
02:10:14,940 --> 02:10:16,175
CONTRACT AND HOW THAT AFFECTS 

3409
02:10:16,175 --> 02:10:18,277
FUTURE BUDGETS. BUT I WANT TO I 

3410
02:10:18,277 --> 02:10:20,245
WANTED TO GROUND IN THAT FACT 

3411
02:10:20,245 --> 02:10:22,915
THAT THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN 

3412
02:10:22,915 --> 02:10:23,815
PROPOSED. AND LOOKING ACROSS THE

3413
02:10:23,815 --> 02:10:24,683
BOARD AND BUILDING ON SOME OF 

3414
02:10:24,683 --> 02:10:27,286
THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMEMBER

3415
02:10:27,286 --> 02:10:29,121
LIN RAISED, DIRECTOR WHITSON, 

3416
02:10:29,121 --> 02:10:30,823
I'D LIKE TO ASK IN TERMS OF THE

3417
02:10:30,823 --> 02:10:33,192
BROADER PROPOSED BUDGET, HOW 

3418
02:10:33,192 --> 02:10:35,527
MANY DEPARTMENTS HAVE PROPOSED 

3419
02:10:35,527 --> 02:10:39,765
LAYOFFS OF CITY EMPLOYEES 

3420
02:10:39,765 --> 02:10:40,999
-- MR. WHITSON? DON'T FORGET TO

3421
02:10:40,999 --> 02:10:42,701
USE THE MICROPHONE. 

3422
02:10:42,701 --> 02:10:43,035
-- THANK YOU. 

3423
02:10:43,035 --> 02:10:44,770
-- I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER AT 

3424
02:10:44,770 --> 02:10:46,305
HAND, BUT CAN DEFINITELY GET 

3425
02:10:46,305 --> 02:10:49,208
BACK TO YOU. 

3426
02:10:49,208 --> 02:10:52,177
-- THANK YOU. PERHAPS THROUGHOUT

3427
02:10:52,177 --> 02:10:53,145
THE DISCUSSION TODAY, WE CAN 

3428
02:10:53,145 --> 02:10:54,213
FIND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION

3429
02:10:54,213 --> 02:10:55,948
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS 

3430
02:10:55,948 --> 02:10:57,683
IMPORTANT CONTEXT. I KNOW IN 

3431
02:10:57,683 --> 02:10:58,317
DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS THAT WE

3432
02:10:58,317 --> 02:10:59,218
HAD OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF 

3433
02:10:59,218 --> 02:11:00,385
WEEKS, WE'VE I MEAN, WE'VE HAD

3434
02:11:00,385 --> 02:11:02,120
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSITIONS, 

3435
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:03,255
LAYOFFS WITHIN SDCI. FOR 

3436
02:11:03,255 --> 02:11:06,792
EXAMPLE, I THINK IT WOULD BE 

3437
02:11:06,792 --> 02:11:07,359
HELPFUL TO ALSO UNPACK THE 

3438
02:11:07,359 --> 02:11:10,796
NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT WILL BE

3439
02:11:10,796 --> 02:11:11,430
ABROGATED AS VACANT POSITIONS, 

3440
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:12,531
BUT ALSO ADDRESS THE REALITY 

3441
02:11:12,531 --> 02:11:15,067
THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITY 

3442
02:11:15,067 --> 02:11:16,535
EMPLOYEES, PEOPLE WHO ARE 

3443
02:11:16,535 --> 02:11:18,670
CURRENTLY EMPLOYED BY THE CITY, 

3444
02:11:18,670 --> 02:11:20,539
WHO ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE 

3445
02:11:20,539 --> 02:11:24,209
LAID OFF. ACTUAL PEOPLE, 

3446
02:11:24,209 --> 02:11:26,078
FAMILIES. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE 

3447
02:11:26,078 --> 02:11:28,313
SURE WE'RE GROUNDING OUR 

3448
02:11:28,313 --> 02:11:31,450
DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROPOSED 

3449
02:11:31,450 --> 02:11:33,785
BUDGET AND THE $68 MILLION 

3450
02:11:33,785 --> 02:11:36,288
INCREASE TO THE SEATTLE POLICE 

3451
02:11:36,288 --> 02:11:38,123
DEPARTMENT. WHEN WE ARE 

3452
02:11:38,123 --> 02:11:39,625
CONSIDERING THIS. BUT GOING INTO

3453
02:11:39,625 --> 02:11:41,793
SOME OF THE POLICY 

3454
02:11:41,793 --> 02:11:43,595
CONSIDERATIONS, I WANT TO THANK 

3455
02:11:43,595 --> 02:11:44,896
YOU AGAIN, GREG, FOR YOUR HARD 

3456
02:11:44,896 --> 02:11:48,834
WORK ON THIS. IN PARTICULAR, I 

3457
02:11:48,834 --> 02:11:51,603
APPRECIATE HOW DETAILED ALL 78 

3458
02:11:51,603 --> 02:11:54,072
PAGES OF YOUR POLICY 

3459
02:11:54,072 --> 02:11:55,474
CONSIDERATIONS MEMO WERE. I DID 

3460
02:11:55,474 --> 02:11:57,276
HAVE A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS 

3461
02:11:57,276 --> 02:11:59,511
ABOUT SOME OF THESE POLICY 

3462
02:11:59,511 --> 02:12:01,246
CONSIDERATIONS THAT I WANTED TO 

3463
02:12:01,246 --> 02:12:04,549
GET ON THE RECORD FOR THE SWORN 

3464
02:12:04,549 --> 02:12:06,385
STAFFING PLAN FOR 2027, THERE IS

3465
02:12:06,385 --> 02:12:10,555
AN ADDITIONAL 4.5 MILLION MORE 

3466
02:12:10,555 --> 02:12:12,491
IN SWORN STAFFING FUNDS THAN 

3467
02:12:12,491 --> 02:12:13,592
REQUIRED, AND THERE IS ALREADY A

3468
02:12:13,592 --> 02:12:17,329
PLAN TO USE 2.5 MILLION OF THAT 

3469
02:12:17,329 --> 02:12:20,332
SURPLUS FOR TECHNICAL SERVICES. 

3470
02:12:20,332 --> 02:12:21,333
COULD YOU GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF 

3471
02:12:21,333 --> 02:12:23,068
WHAT WHAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE? 

3472
02:12:23,068 --> 02:12:26,138
-- YEAH. THANK YOU. SO SPD, AS I

3473
02:12:26,138 --> 02:12:29,975
SAY, HAS HAD SOME COSTS THAT 

3474
02:12:29,975 --> 02:12:30,809
WHEN THEY WERE ADDED TO THE 

3475
02:12:30,809 --> 02:12:32,978
BUDGET, THERE WAS NO DEDICATED 

3476
02:12:32,978 --> 02:12:35,213
FUNDING ADDED. AND SO THESE 

3477
02:12:35,213 --> 02:12:36,682
COSTS HAVE BEEN COSTS THAT 

3478
02:12:36,682 --> 02:12:38,350
HISTORICALLY THEY HAVE ABSORBED 

3479
02:12:38,350 --> 02:12:39,318
USING SALARY SAVINGS, EITHER 

3480
02:12:39,318 --> 02:12:40,886
FROM THE SWORN SIDE OR OF THE 

3481
02:12:40,886 --> 02:12:47,726
CIVILIAN SIDE THEY ARE COSTS FOR

3482
02:12:47,726 --> 02:12:51,129
AMAZON CLOUD SERVICE, FOR CON 

3483
02:12:51,129 --> 02:12:51,730
CONTRACTS OR ONGOING SERVICE 

3484
02:12:51,730 --> 02:12:56,835
AGREEMENTS FOR THINGS LIKE 

3485
02:12:56,835 --> 02:12:57,469
CELLULAR COSTS FOR THE OFFICERS 

3486
02:12:57,469 --> 02:12:58,870
AND CIVILIANS THAT HAVE CELL 

3487
02:12:58,870 --> 02:13:03,108
PHONES. THEY ARE COSTS FOR, AS I

3488
02:13:03,108 --> 02:13:06,378
SAID EARLIER, SYSTEMS LIKE 

3489
02:13:06,378 --> 02:13:08,613
AQUEDUCT OR ADOBE, A LOT OF 

3490
02:13:08,613 --> 02:13:10,148
THESE THINGS THAT THAT ARE USED 

3491
02:13:10,148 --> 02:13:13,185
BY THE DEPARTMENT ON A REGULAR 

3492
02:13:13,185 --> 02:13:16,054
BASIS, EVEN THEIR THEIR 

3493
02:13:16,054 --> 02:13:19,024
ANALYSIS, THEIR SPIDER TECH MANY

3494
02:13:19,024 --> 02:13:20,892
OF THESE SYSTEMS HAVE GROWN OVER

3495
02:13:20,892 --> 02:13:23,462
THE YEARS AS THEIR DEPENDANCE ON

3496
02:13:23,462 --> 02:13:25,664
TECHNOLOGY OR USE OF TECHNOLOGY,

3497
02:13:25,664 --> 02:13:28,266
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OF 

3498
02:13:28,266 --> 02:13:30,602
TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, DATA 

3499
02:13:30,602 --> 02:13:32,604
DRIVEN POLICING. MANY OF THESE 

3500
02:13:32,604 --> 02:13:34,106
COSTS HAVE GROWN OVER THE YEARS,

3501
02:13:34,106 --> 02:13:37,242
AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO 

3502
02:13:37,242 --> 02:13:38,543
ADDRESS THEM. SO I CAN GET YOU A

3503
02:13:38,543 --> 02:13:39,344
SPECIFIC LIST OF ALL OF THEM, 

3504
02:13:39,344 --> 02:13:40,879
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY 

3505
02:13:40,879 --> 02:13:43,582
ARE, FOR THE MOST PART, ONGOING 

3506
02:13:43,582 --> 02:13:45,350
LEASES FOR TECHNOLOGY SERVICE 

3507
02:13:45,350 --> 02:13:46,752
PROVIDERS, AGAIN, LIKE AMAZON 

3508
02:13:46,752 --> 02:13:51,223
OR, OR ACROBAT, ADOBE OR CELL 

3509
02:13:51,223 --> 02:13:52,891
PHONE COSTS. AND YES, YOU ARE 

3510
02:13:52,891 --> 02:13:56,828
CORRECT, OUT OF THE 4.5 MILLION 

3511
02:13:56,828 --> 02:13:58,864
THAT IS PART OF THE STAFFING 

3512
02:13:58,864 --> 02:14:01,533
PLAN FOR 2027 AND IS NOT USED TO

3513
02:14:01,533 --> 02:14:03,435
SUPPORT SWORN STAFF. 2.5 MILLION

3514
02:14:03,435 --> 02:14:04,970
IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT AND 

3515
02:14:04,970 --> 02:14:08,840
ADDED FOR THOSE COSTS. 

3516
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:09,441
-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK THANK 

3517
02:14:09,441 --> 02:14:12,611
YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR 

3518
02:14:12,611 --> 02:14:13,178
THAT RESPONSE. BUILDING US 

3519
02:14:13,178 --> 02:14:14,246
DIRECTOR WHITSON APOLOGIES, 

3520
02:14:14,246 --> 02:14:15,414
CHAIR, I'M SEEING DIRECTOR 

3521
02:14:15,414 --> 02:14:16,748
WHITSON WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN. 

3522
02:14:16,748 --> 02:14:18,417
-- SORRY TO GO BACK TO YOUR 

3523
02:14:18,417 --> 02:14:19,084
PREVIOUS QUESTION. THERE ARE 

3524
02:14:19,084 --> 02:14:20,652
LAYOFFS IN FIVE DEPARTMENTS, 

3525
02:14:20,652 --> 02:14:22,821
INCLUDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,

3526
02:14:22,821 --> 02:14:25,323
WHICH IS SEEING THREE LAYOFFS. 

3527
02:14:25,323 --> 02:14:27,826
-- AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, 

3528
02:14:27,826 --> 02:14:28,427
INCLUDING ABROGATIONS, IT'S 

3529
02:14:28,427 --> 02:14:30,128
ABOUT 14. BACK TO YOU, 

3530
02:14:30,128 --> 02:14:30,595
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

3531
02:14:30,595 --> 02:14:32,164
-- THANK YOU. IMPORTANT 

3532
02:14:32,164 --> 02:14:33,832
CLARIFICATION AGAIN, COLLEAGUES,

3533
02:14:33,832 --> 02:14:34,366
REALLY INTERESTED IN JUST 

3534
02:14:34,366 --> 02:14:35,967
PLACING THIS BUDGET AND OUR 

3535
02:14:35,967 --> 02:14:36,601
CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BUDGET 

3536
02:14:36,601 --> 02:14:39,671
IN BROADER CONTEXT OF HIRING AND

3537
02:14:39,671 --> 02:14:42,474
LAYOFFS ACROSS THE CITY. THANK 

3538
02:14:42,474 --> 02:14:45,410
YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE, GREG. AND

3539
02:14:45,410 --> 02:14:48,447
TAKING US TO I'M NOTING THAT 2 

3540
02:14:48,447 --> 02:14:52,117
MILLION WAS ALLOCATED TO SPD FOR

3541
02:14:52,117 --> 02:14:53,652
THIS BUDGET AS AN INTENTIONAL 

3542
02:14:53,652 --> 02:14:54,486
OVERFUND. WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE

3543
02:14:54,486 --> 02:14:57,322
BIT ABOUT THIS CUSHION TO COVER 

3544
02:14:57,322 --> 02:15:00,325
ADDITIONAL SALARY COSTS IN 2027.

3545
02:15:00,325 --> 02:15:03,628
IN THE CASE THAT FEWER OFFICERS 

3546
02:15:03,628 --> 02:15:04,262
SEPARATE THAN ANTICIPATED. COULD

3547
02:15:04,262 --> 02:15:06,231
THIS MONEY BE USED BY SPD IF 

3548
02:15:06,231 --> 02:15:08,467
COUNCIL DECIDES TO LEAVE IT 

3549
02:15:08,467 --> 02:15:10,302
UNTOUCHED, IT COULD BE USED TO 

3550
02:15:10,302 --> 02:15:12,304
OVERTIME APPROPRIATION. IF SPD 

3551
02:15:12,304 --> 02:15:14,372
GOES OVER BUDGET. 

3552
02:15:14,372 --> 02:15:16,308
-- MR. STRAUSS. 

3553
02:15:16,308 --> 02:15:19,244
-- OH, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIR. 

3554
02:15:19,244 --> 02:15:19,478
-- YES. 

3555
02:15:19,478 --> 02:15:21,213
-- SIMPLE ANSWER. THANK YOU. 

3556
02:15:21,213 --> 02:15:23,048
NOW, LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, 

3557
02:15:23,048 --> 02:15:26,518
YOU TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT 

3558
02:15:26,518 --> 02:15:28,253
THIS YEAR IN 2026, SPD WENT OVER

3559
02:15:28,253 --> 02:15:31,022
THEIR OVERTIME APPROPRIATION BY 

3560
02:15:31,022 --> 02:15:35,961
2.1 MILLION. AND SO I RECALL IN 

3561
02:15:35,961 --> 02:15:36,595
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE EARLIER 

3562
02:15:36,595 --> 02:15:38,530
THIS YEAR, YOU HAD PRESENTED ON 

3563
02:15:38,530 --> 02:15:41,833
SPD OVERTIME MONITORING. AND AT 

3564
02:15:41,833 --> 02:15:44,903
THE TIME YOU STATED THAT AFTER 

3565
02:15:44,903 --> 02:15:45,537
ADJUSTING RETROACTIVE CONTRACT 

3566
02:15:45,537 --> 02:15:48,173
PAYMENTS AND ANTICIPATING 

3567
02:15:48,173 --> 02:15:49,841
REVENUES FROM FIFA AND THE NFL, 

3568
02:15:49,841 --> 02:15:51,443
THAT SPD WAS LIKELY TO FINISH 

3569
02:15:51,443 --> 02:15:53,311
THE YEAR WITHOUT REQUIRING 

3570
02:15:53,311 --> 02:15:54,880
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THE 

3571
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:56,248
CITY'S GENERAL FUND. SO MY 

3572
02:15:56,248 --> 02:15:58,917
QUESTION IS, WHAT CHANGED? 

3573
02:15:58,917 --> 02:16:04,189
-- MR. DAS 

3574
02:16:04,189 --> 02:16:06,725
-- I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT PRIOR

3575
02:16:06,725 --> 02:16:07,692
YEARS WHERE THE DEPARTMENT 

3576
02:16:07,692 --> 02:16:09,161
TRADITIONALLY GOES OVER BUDGET. 

3577
02:16:09,161 --> 02:16:10,662
I WAS BEING OPTIMISTIC. I WAS 

3578
02:16:10,662 --> 02:16:12,163
ALSO JUST LOOKING AT THE 

3579
02:16:12,163 --> 02:16:15,333
NUMBERS. WHAT CHANGED IN THE 

3580
02:16:15,333 --> 02:16:16,601
FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR WHEN I

3581
02:16:16,601 --> 02:16:21,473
MADE THAT REPORT, SPD WAS DOING 

3582
02:16:21,473 --> 02:16:23,608
LESS PATROL AUGMENTATION. THEIR 

3583
02:16:23,608 --> 02:16:25,110
PATROL AUGMENTATION IS, AS I 

3584
02:16:25,110 --> 02:16:28,146
DISCUSSED EARLIER, FOR THE 

3585
02:16:28,146 --> 02:16:30,148
PURPOSE OF OF MEETING CERTAIN 

3586
02:16:30,148 --> 02:16:31,483
THRESHOLDS WHEN RESPONDING TO 

3587
02:16:31,483 --> 02:16:34,386
911 CALLS. IT IS ALSO TO MAKE 

3588
02:16:34,386 --> 02:16:36,221
AVAILABLE PROACTIVE UNITS THAT 

3589
02:16:36,221 --> 02:16:36,988
CAN WORK HOTSPOTS 12th AND 

3590
02:16:36,988 --> 02:16:40,592
JACKSON OR OTHER AREAS. IT IS 

3591
02:16:40,592 --> 02:16:42,227
THE CASE THAT AFTER I MADE THAT 

3592
02:16:42,227 --> 02:16:44,563
PRESENTATION, THE MAYOR 

3593
02:16:44,563 --> 02:16:46,965
ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WOULD BE 

3594
02:16:46,965 --> 02:16:48,400
MORE PROACTIVE USE OF OFFICERS. 

3595
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:49,868
THOSE OFFICERS ARE ON OVERTIME, 

3596
02:16:49,868 --> 02:16:52,437
THE BIKE SQUADS, THE THAT THIS 

3597
02:16:52,437 --> 02:16:53,605
COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT A FEW 

3598
02:16:53,605 --> 02:16:55,140
MINUTES AGO. ALL OF THAT OCCURS 

3599
02:16:55,140 --> 02:16:59,578
ON OVERTIME. SO AS THAT ACTIVITY

3600
02:16:59,578 --> 02:17:02,581
INCREASED OVER THE PAST FEW 

3601
02:17:02,581 --> 02:17:04,316
MONTHS, THE DEPARTMENT HAS WOUND

3602
02:17:04,316 --> 02:17:07,419
UP IN EXCESS OF ITS 

3603
02:17:07,419 --> 02:17:07,953
APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY. 

3604
02:17:07,953 --> 02:17:10,755
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. 

3605
02:17:10,755 --> 02:17:12,891
THAT'S HELPFUL. CLARIFICATION. 

3606
02:17:12,891 --> 02:17:14,426
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, EVEN IF WE

3607
02:17:14,426 --> 02:17:16,561
DECIDE TO TAKE NO ACTION AND 

3608
02:17:16,561 --> 02:17:18,597
LEAVE THE $2 MILLION FOR SALARY 

3609
02:17:18,597 --> 02:17:20,532
CUSHION, COULD THERE STILL BE A 

3610
02:17:20,532 --> 02:17:22,033
POSSIBILITY THAT SPD GOES BACK 

3611
02:17:22,033 --> 02:17:27,038
TO ASK FOR MORE IN THE 2027 YEAR

3612
02:17:27,038 --> 02:17:30,642
END SUPPLEMENTAL? 

3613
02:17:30,642 --> 02:17:33,612
-- YES, I THINK DEPENDING ON ON 

3614
02:17:33,612 --> 02:17:36,615
EVENTS NEXT YEAR, THERE IS THERE

3615
02:17:36,615 --> 02:17:39,117
IS A POTENTIAL THAT THEY COULD 

3616
02:17:39,117 --> 02:17:41,052
EXCEED 500,000 HOURS THE LAST 

3617
02:17:41,052 --> 02:17:43,321
FEW YEARS THEY'VE BEEN AT ABOUT

3618
02:17:43,321 --> 02:17:44,789
5000 HOURS, 500,000 HOURS. SO 

3619
02:17:44,789 --> 02:17:46,291
IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THEY COULD 

3620
02:17:46,291 --> 02:17:49,227
STAY AT THAT SAME LEVEL. IT'S 

3621
02:17:49,227 --> 02:17:51,596
DIFFICULT TO KNOW FOR SURE. 

3622
02:17:51,596 --> 02:17:53,031
-- THANK YOU. CONTINUING. 

3623
02:17:53,031 --> 02:17:54,199
ACTUALLY, THIS WILL BE MY LAST 

3624
02:17:54,199 --> 02:17:56,935
QUESTION JUST ON OVERTIME 

3625
02:17:56,935 --> 02:17:58,603
COMPONENTS. I HAVE A FEW OTHER 

3626
02:17:58,603 --> 02:18:00,739
TOPICS I'D LIKE TO COVER WITH 

3627
02:18:00,739 --> 02:18:02,273
MY TIME. COULD YOU WALK US 

3628
02:18:02,273 --> 02:18:04,142
THROUGH COUNCIL'S ROLE IN 

3629
02:18:04,142 --> 02:18:06,077
ENSURING THAT SPD DOES NOT GO 

3630
02:18:06,077 --> 02:18:06,711
OVER THEIR YEARLY APPROPRIATION 

3631
02:18:06,711 --> 02:18:08,046
OF OVERTIME BUDGET? AND 

3632
02:18:08,046 --> 02:18:09,347
ADDITIONALLY, ARE THERE ANY 

3633
02:18:09,347 --> 02:18:11,216
SAFEGUARDS OR CONSIDERATIONS ON 

3634
02:18:11,216 --> 02:18:12,317
MAKING SURE IN THE FUTURE WE 

3635
02:18:12,317 --> 02:18:14,719
DON'T HAVE MILLIONS OF 

3636
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:16,321
UNBUDGETED GENERAL FUND COSTS TO

3637
02:18:16,321 --> 02:18:17,889
SPD, EVEN IF THEY GO OVER THEIR 

3638
02:18:17,889 --> 02:18:21,426
OVERTIME BUDGET AGAIN? 

3639
02:18:21,426 --> 02:18:22,594
-- I THINK THAT THE ANSWER TO 

3640
02:18:22,594 --> 02:18:27,065
THAT QUESTION IS THAT THERE IS A

3641
02:18:27,065 --> 02:18:29,734
SLI EVERY YEAR THAT ASKS FOR 

3642
02:18:29,734 --> 02:18:31,903
OVERTIME DATA, STAFFING, DATA, 

3643
02:18:31,903 --> 02:18:34,039
FINANCIAL DATA. AND THAT'S WHAT

3644
02:18:34,039 --> 02:18:36,241
I PRESENT TO YOU ALL IN THE 

3645
02:18:36,241 --> 02:18:36,908
QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT I DO. NO 

3646
02:18:36,908 --> 02:18:39,644
OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS THAT KIND 

3647
02:18:39,644 --> 02:18:43,915
OF, I GUESS, FINANCIAL 

3648
02:18:43,915 --> 02:18:45,250
MONITORING. AND I COME BEFORE 

3649
02:18:45,250 --> 02:18:46,985
YOU BEFORE THE PUBLIC SAFETY 

3650
02:18:46,985 --> 02:18:48,420
COMMITTEE, ONCE A QUARTER TO 

3651
02:18:48,420 --> 02:18:50,288
PRESENT THAT INFORMATION SO THAT

3652
02:18:50,288 --> 02:18:51,990
YOU CAN SO THAT YOU CAN MONITOR 

3653
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:53,725
WHAT WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS 

3654
02:18:53,725 --> 02:18:55,960
DOING. AND YOU CAN KNOW HOW 

3655
02:18:55,960 --> 02:18:58,029
THEIR SPENDING IS PROGRESSING 

3656
02:18:58,029 --> 02:18:59,431
AND THAT THERE ARE NO SURPRISES 

3657
02:18:59,431 --> 02:19:04,803
AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT IS 

3658
02:19:04,803 --> 02:19:06,304
THAT IS THIS COUNCIL'S MAIN 

3659
02:19:06,304 --> 02:19:12,477
INTERVENTION RIGHT NOW. ITS MAIN

3660
02:19:12,477 --> 02:19:14,779
MONITORING VEHICLE IN THERE ARE 

3661
02:19:14,779 --> 02:19:18,516
OTHER USES OR OTHER TOOLS THAT 

3662
02:19:18,516 --> 02:19:19,084
THAT THE THE COUNCIL COULD 

3663
02:19:19,084 --> 02:19:20,752
EMPLOY. THERE COULD BE PROVISOS 

3664
02:19:20,752 --> 02:19:23,888
ON ON OVERTIME, THE CHALLENGE 

3665
02:19:23,888 --> 02:19:25,356
WITH THAT IS, IS THAT AS YOU GET

3666
02:19:25,356 --> 02:19:28,059
TO THE END OF THE YEAR, IF SPD 

3667
02:19:28,059 --> 02:19:29,327
NEEDS THE AUTHORITY, YOU WOULD 

3668
02:19:29,327 --> 02:19:31,696
JUST HAVE TO RELEASE THE PROVISO

3669
02:19:31,696 --> 02:19:33,231
ANYWAY, IT IS. IT IS MOSTLY 

3670
02:19:33,231 --> 02:19:35,834
ABOUT JUST BRINGING FORWARD THE 

3671
02:19:35,834 --> 02:19:38,536
COMMAND STAFF AND THE MAYOR'S 

3672
02:19:38,536 --> 02:19:39,437
OFFICE AND KNOWING HOW THE CITY 

3673
02:19:39,437 --> 02:19:41,740
IS USING ITS OVERTIME DOLLARS 

3674
02:19:41,740 --> 02:19:45,343
AND AND AND IF THAT USE IS 

3675
02:19:45,343 --> 02:19:46,578
CONSISTENT WITH WITH THE INTENT 

3676
02:19:46,578 --> 02:19:50,515
OF THE POLICY MAKERS, THEN, YOU 

3677
02:19:50,515 --> 02:19:51,850
KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 

3678
02:19:51,850 --> 02:19:53,651
WILL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR. 

3679
02:19:53,651 --> 02:19:55,487
OTHERWISE, IT'S THE CHIEF'S JOB

3680
02:19:55,487 --> 02:19:59,924
TO KEEP IT AT THE BUDGET LEVEL. 

3681
02:19:59,924 --> 02:20:01,292
-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

3682
02:20:01,292 --> 02:20:02,961
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR STRAUSS 

3683
02:20:02,961 --> 02:20:05,530
HEARING THAT POINT, HEARING 

3684
02:20:05,530 --> 02:20:08,666
THAT, MONITORING AND POTENTIAL 

3685
02:20:08,666 --> 02:20:10,502
PROVISO, BUT EVEN UNDERSTANDING 

3686
02:20:10,502 --> 02:20:11,903
THAT, IN EFFECT, THAT PROVISO 

3687
02:20:11,903 --> 02:20:12,637
PERHAPS WOULD NOT GET THE 

3688
02:20:12,637 --> 02:20:14,072
OUTCOME THAT WE'D BE HOPING 

3689
02:20:14,072 --> 02:20:14,706
FOR. REALLY THE MAIN PATH FOR 

3690
02:20:14,706 --> 02:20:17,776
MANAGING THIS ISSUE IS 

3691
02:20:17,776 --> 02:20:19,944
COORDINATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE.

3692
02:20:19,944 --> 02:20:22,680
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT 

3693
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:25,850
CORRECTLY? YEAH. UNDERSTOOD 

3694
02:20:25,850 --> 02:20:27,185
THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. 

3695
02:20:27,185 --> 02:20:28,353
AND STILL CONFESS. A BIT 

3696
02:20:28,353 --> 02:20:30,355
FRUSTRATING. I THINK ANY TYPE OF

3697
02:20:30,355 --> 02:20:32,657
OVERSPENDING IN A DEPARTMENT IS 

3698
02:20:32,657 --> 02:20:34,492
IS CHALLENGING, PARTICULARLY 

3699
02:20:34,492 --> 02:20:36,728
WHEN THERE ARE UNEXPECTED COSTS 

3700
02:20:36,728 --> 02:20:38,963
COMING HERE AND CONCERNED WITH 

3701
02:20:38,963 --> 02:20:40,665
OUR INABILITY, BARRING, AGAIN, A

3702
02:20:40,665 --> 02:20:41,866
CLOSER COLLABORATION WITH THE 

3703
02:20:41,866 --> 02:20:44,636
EXECUTIVE ON ABILITY TO MANAGE 

3704
02:20:44,636 --> 02:20:48,273
THAT ISSUE, I WANTED TO TAKE US 

3705
02:20:48,273 --> 02:20:50,041
TO THE EXCITING DISCUSSION ABOUT

3706
02:20:50,041 --> 02:20:51,810
WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF 

3707
02:20:51,810 --> 02:20:54,045
OFFICERS FOR SEATTLE, AND I 

3708
02:20:54,045 --> 02:20:55,747
REALLY APPRECIATED THE NOTES 

3709
02:20:55,747 --> 02:20:56,181
THAT YOU HAD IN THE 

3710
02:20:56,181 --> 02:20:57,515
PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS IN THE 

3711
02:20:57,515 --> 02:20:59,818
MEMO UNDERSTANDING THAT, I THINK

3712
02:20:59,818 --> 02:21:03,188
FOR ALL OF US, THIS IS A COMPLEX

3713
02:21:03,188 --> 02:21:04,656
MATTER, UNDERSTANDING AND 

3714
02:21:04,656 --> 02:21:06,157
SCALING THE RIGHT NUMBER OF 

3715
02:21:06,157 --> 02:21:08,326
OFFICERS FOR OUR POPULATION. AND

3716
02:21:08,326 --> 02:21:09,260
I WANTED TO NOTE THAT IN YOUR 

3717
02:21:09,260 --> 02:21:13,064
MEMO, YOU TOUCHED ON ON THINGS 

3718
02:21:13,064 --> 02:21:16,367
HOW OFFICER TO POPULATION RATIOS

3719
02:21:16,367 --> 02:21:18,503
USING THEM ALONE CAN BE SOMEWHAT

3720
02:21:18,503 --> 02:21:20,171
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT DOESN'T 

3721
02:21:20,171 --> 02:21:22,006
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS SUCH AS

3722
02:21:22,006 --> 02:21:23,775
UNIQUE NEEDS OF A COMMUNITY 

3723
02:21:23,775 --> 02:21:26,144
COMMUTER AND TRANSIENT 

3724
02:21:26,144 --> 02:21:28,213
POPULATIONS, WHETHER A 

3725
02:21:28,213 --> 02:21:30,515
JURISDICTION USES RESOURCES FOR 

3726
02:21:30,515 --> 02:21:31,149
SPECIALIZED SERVICES LIKE HARBOR

3727
02:21:31,149 --> 02:21:31,716
PATROL, THERE'S A LOT OF 

3728
02:21:31,716 --> 02:21:34,285
COMPLEXITY HERE, AND EVEN WHEN 

3729
02:21:34,285 --> 02:21:35,453
WE EVALUATE AND LOOK AT 

3730
02:21:35,453 --> 02:21:37,956
DEPARTMENTS ON THE WEST COAST 

3731
02:21:37,956 --> 02:21:40,425
VERSUS THE EAST COAST IN TERMS 

3732
02:21:40,425 --> 02:21:43,228
OF STAFFING NUMBERS AND OFFICER 

3733
02:21:43,228 --> 02:21:45,663
SALARIES, WE END UP BEING THE 

3734
02:21:45,663 --> 02:21:47,131
PAYING THE MOST, THIRD MOST PER 

3735
02:21:47,131 --> 02:21:49,501
OFFICER AT A COMPARABLE CITY'S,

3736
02:21:49,501 --> 02:21:52,804
ONLY BEHIND SAN JOSE AND SAN 

3737
02:21:52,804 --> 02:21:55,373
FRANCISCO. NOTING TO IN THE 

3738
02:21:55,373 --> 02:21:57,942
MELORIA, PUBLIC SAFETY 

3739
02:21:57,942 --> 02:21:59,577
CONSULTANT REPORT THAT STATED 

3740
02:21:59,577 --> 02:22:00,111
THAT RECOMMENDED PRECINCT 

3741
02:22:00,111 --> 02:22:02,113
STAFFING LEVELS WOULD INCREASE 

3742
02:22:02,113 --> 02:22:04,782
PATROL STAFFING BY 153 OFFICERS.

3743
02:22:04,782 --> 02:22:07,285
BUT THE REPORT ITSELF DOESN'T 

3744
02:22:07,285 --> 02:22:09,053
DISCUSS THE CARE DEPARTMENT, 

3745
02:22:09,053 --> 02:22:10,889
CARE AND OUR CRISIS CARE 

3746
02:22:10,889 --> 02:22:12,156
RESPONDERS WERE NOT A PART OF 

3747
02:22:12,156 --> 02:22:13,992
THAT STUDY. CAN YOU WALK US 

3748
02:22:13,992 --> 02:22:18,663
THROUGH WHY THAT WAS? 

3749
02:22:18,663 --> 02:22:21,332
-- I CAN CONFIRM WHAT YOU'RE 

3750
02:22:21,332 --> 02:22:23,134
SAYING. IT WAS THE CONSIDERATION

3751
02:22:23,134 --> 02:22:25,870
OF OF ALTERNATE RESPONSE WAS NOT

3752
02:22:25,870 --> 02:22:27,672
PUT INTO THE MODELS OR THE 

3753
02:22:27,672 --> 02:22:29,941
CALCULATIONS THAT THE STUDY 

3754
02:22:29,941 --> 02:22:32,944
USED. I THINK THAT IT'S A VERY 

3755
02:22:32,944 --> 02:22:34,112
LONG STUDY, HUNDREDS OF PAGES. I

3756
02:22:34,112 --> 02:22:36,881
THINK THAT THEY THEY PROBABLY 

3757
02:22:36,881 --> 02:22:38,850
DISCUSSED HOW ALTERNATIVE 

3758
02:22:38,850 --> 02:22:40,952
RESPONSE CAN, CAN IMPACT 

3759
02:22:40,952 --> 02:22:42,020
STAFFING. BUT TO MY 

3760
02:22:42,020 --> 02:22:44,522
RECOLLECTION, THEY WERE NOT 

3761
02:22:44,522 --> 02:22:45,056
ASSUMING ANY ALTERNATIVE 

3762
02:22:45,056 --> 02:22:46,491
RESPONSE WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING 

3763
02:22:46,491 --> 02:22:48,893
THAT MODEL TOGETHER. AND I THINK

3764
02:22:48,893 --> 02:22:49,928
IT'S POTENTIALLY BECAUSE OF 

3765
02:22:49,928 --> 02:22:52,463
THAT, THAT SPD RECEIVED THE 

3766
02:22:52,463 --> 02:22:54,465
REPORT AND SAID AND DETERMINED 

3767
02:22:54,465 --> 02:22:56,200
THAT THEY DO NEED TO CONSIDER 

3768
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,569
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE. AND 

3769
02:22:58,569 --> 02:23:00,638
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THEY'RE 

3770
02:23:00,638 --> 02:23:02,206
RUNNING THEIR OWN STUDY TO, TO 

3771
02:23:02,206 --> 02:23:03,875
BOTH CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE 

3772
02:23:03,875 --> 02:23:06,611
RESPONSE, THE IMPACT OF THE CARE

3773
02:23:06,611 --> 02:23:09,414
DEPARTMENT ON CALLS ALSO TO BE 

3774
02:23:09,414 --> 02:23:11,716
ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO 

3775
02:23:11,716 --> 02:23:13,051
ACHIEVE BETTER RESPONSE TIMES 

3776
02:23:13,051 --> 02:23:16,187
WHEN OFFICERS ARE GOING. SO THAT

3777
02:23:16,187 --> 02:23:16,721
THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THIS AND 

3778
02:23:16,721 --> 02:23:17,989
THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT FOR 

3779
02:23:17,989 --> 02:23:19,157
THAT. YEAH. 

3780
02:23:19,157 --> 02:23:22,927
-- THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL TO

3781
02:23:22,927 --> 02:23:23,494
UNDERSTAND, COLLEAGUES, MY 

3782
02:23:23,494 --> 02:23:24,829
GENERAL ORIENTATION ON THIS 

3783
02:23:24,829 --> 02:23:26,831
MATTER HAS BEEN WE WANT TO BE 

3784
02:23:26,831 --> 02:23:27,465
BUILDING A PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM 

3785
02:23:27,465 --> 02:23:28,433
THAT HAS QUICK RESPONSES, BUT 

3786
02:23:28,433 --> 02:23:31,402
ALSO RIGHT RESPONSES FOR A GIVEN

3787
02:23:31,402 --> 02:23:31,970
PUBLIC SAFETY SCENARIOS. SO 

3788
02:23:31,970 --> 02:23:33,738
IT'S BEEN ALL ABOUT REALLY 

3789
02:23:33,738 --> 02:23:35,606
CALIBRATING HOW MANY SWORN 

3790
02:23:35,606 --> 02:23:36,908
OFFICERS ARE NEEDED TO RESPOND 

3791
02:23:36,908 --> 02:23:39,077
TO THOSE TIER ONE CALLS. LOOKING

3792
02:23:39,077 --> 02:23:41,713
ALSO AT HOW WE CAN REALLY MAKE 

3793
02:23:41,713 --> 02:23:43,648
USE OF OUR CRISIS CARE RESPONDER

3794
02:23:43,648 --> 02:23:45,383
TEAM FOR RESPONDING TO CALLS 

3795
02:23:45,383 --> 02:23:47,619
THAT DO NOT NEED A SWORN OFFICER

3796
02:23:47,619 --> 02:23:49,787
TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, AND 

3797
02:23:49,787 --> 02:23:51,122
REALLY DIALING IN AND MAKING 

3798
02:23:51,122 --> 02:23:52,590
SURE THAT OFFICER TIME IS 

3799
02:23:52,590 --> 02:23:54,592
RESPONDING TO THE KIND OF CALLS 

3800
02:23:54,592 --> 02:23:55,526
AND SITUATIONS WE'D LIKE THEM 

3801
02:23:55,526 --> 02:23:56,694
TO. AND SO FOR ME, IT'S 

3802
02:23:56,694 --> 02:23:57,895
PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN

3803
02:23:57,895 --> 02:24:01,432
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT RESPONDERS

3804
02:24:01,432 --> 02:24:02,000
WHO'S RESPONDING, THAT WE 

3805
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:03,735
FACTOR IN THAT WE ARE GROWING 

3806
02:24:03,735 --> 02:24:04,702
THIS ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TEAM. 

3807
02:24:04,702 --> 02:24:07,372
WE ALSO DON'T TALK TOO MUCH 

3808
02:24:07,372 --> 02:24:09,073
ABOUT THE CRISIS RESPONDER TEAM,

3809
02:24:09,073 --> 02:24:11,409
OUR DUAL DISPATCH PROGRAM, WHICH

3810
02:24:11,409 --> 02:24:14,379
IS TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT WHEN 

3811
02:24:14,379 --> 02:24:16,214
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EXTREME 

3812
02:24:16,214 --> 02:24:17,015
RISK PROTECTION ORDERS AND OTHER

3813
02:24:17,015 --> 02:24:18,983
MATTERS SUCH AS THAT AND 

3814
02:24:18,983 --> 02:24:19,584
SPECIFIC KINDS OF BEHAVIORAL 

3815
02:24:19,584 --> 02:24:22,553
HEALTH CALLS WHERE THERE IS 

3816
02:24:22,553 --> 02:24:23,154
PRESENT DANGER, AND THEN, OF 

3817
02:24:23,154 --> 02:24:24,589
COURSE, WE'LL GET INTO FIRE 

3818
02:24:24,589 --> 02:24:26,190
LATER TODAY. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT

3819
02:24:26,190 --> 02:24:28,960
FOR ME, AS WE'RE THINKING 

3820
02:24:28,960 --> 02:24:31,929
HOLISTICALLY ABOUT DIALING IN ON

3821
02:24:31,929 --> 02:24:33,998
THOSE, FOCUSING IN ON IMPROVING 

3822
02:24:33,998 --> 02:24:34,799
RESPONSE TIMES, WE ALSO ARE 

3823
02:24:34,799 --> 02:24:37,035
CLEAR ON GETTING THE RIGHT 

3824
02:24:37,035 --> 02:24:40,638
RESPONSES DEPLOYED AND SO I WANT

3825
02:24:40,638 --> 02:24:43,708
TO NOW TAKE US TO A LITTLE BIT 

3826
02:24:43,708 --> 02:24:46,611
JUST AROUND CIVILIAN POSITION, 

3827
02:24:46,611 --> 02:24:47,145
ABROGATION, PARTICULARLY 

3828
02:24:47,145 --> 02:24:48,646
INTERESTED IN THE IMPACT OF THE 

3829
02:24:48,646 --> 02:24:52,183
ABROGATION OF CIVILIAN POSITIONS

3830
02:24:52,183 --> 02:24:54,252
ON CASE BACKLOGS. I'M THINKING 

3831
02:24:54,252 --> 02:24:57,455
ABOUT ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY TO

3832
02:24:57,455 --> 02:24:58,890
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES. AND 

3833
02:24:58,890 --> 02:25:00,224
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND GREG,

3834
02:25:00,224 --> 02:25:01,926
IF YOU COULD CONFIRM THIS, THAT 

3835
02:25:01,926 --> 02:25:03,828
YOU'RE CONTINUING TO RESEARCH 

3836
02:25:03,828 --> 02:25:04,429
THIS IN COOPERATION WITH THE 

3837
02:25:04,429 --> 02:25:06,064
EXECUTIVE, I WOULD JUST ASK IF 

3838
02:25:06,064 --> 02:25:07,932
YOU COULD KEEP US INFORMED ON 

3839
02:25:07,932 --> 02:25:10,668
ANY ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND 

3840
02:25:10,668 --> 02:25:13,771
FINDINGS RELATED TO WHAT THESE 

3841
02:25:13,771 --> 02:25:15,406
IMPACTS WILL BE. I ALSO WANT TO 

3842
02:25:15,406 --> 02:25:17,842
NOTE THAT THERE IS 4.2 MILLION 

3843
02:25:17,842 --> 02:25:20,044
IN STATE NARCOTICS FORFEITURE 

3844
02:25:20,044 --> 02:25:20,912
FUNDS, AND THAT THE DEPARTMENT 

3845
02:25:20,912 --> 02:25:23,815
WILL BE USING THIS TO BUY 

3846
02:25:23,815 --> 02:25:25,883
UPDATED SAFETY EQUIPMENT. MY 

3847
02:25:25,883 --> 02:25:28,619
QUESTION IS, WITH THE USE OF 

3848
02:25:28,619 --> 02:25:29,687
THIS MONEY TO BUY TASERS AS A 

3849
02:25:29,687 --> 02:25:32,590
LESS LETHAL OPTION, BE VIABLE. 

3850
02:25:32,590 --> 02:25:36,761
-- MR. DAS. 

3851
02:25:36,761 --> 02:25:37,295
-- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT 

3852
02:25:37,295 --> 02:25:38,830
CENTRAL STAFF ATTORNEY IS 

3853
02:25:38,830 --> 02:25:41,132
CURRENTLY LOOKING AT. LAUREN 

3854
02:25:41,132 --> 02:25:44,202
HENRY IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT 

3855
02:25:44,202 --> 02:25:46,871
BOTH THE 4.2 MILLION IN STATE 

3856
02:25:46,871 --> 02:25:48,372
DRUG FORFEITURE FUNDS. AND THEN 

3857
02:25:48,372 --> 02:25:51,843
ALSO THERE IS ANOTHER 880,000, I

3858
02:25:51,843 --> 02:25:55,046
BELIEVE, IN FEDERAL FORFEITURE 

3859
02:25:55,046 --> 02:25:57,748
FUNDS THAT BOTH OF THESE POTS 

3860
02:25:57,748 --> 02:26:00,551
ARE RESTRICTED FOR POLICE USE. 

3861
02:26:00,551 --> 02:26:03,387
SOME ARE RESTRICTED MORE THAN 

3862
02:26:03,387 --> 02:26:07,658
OTHERS. THE STATE FUNDING IS IS 

3863
02:26:07,658 --> 02:26:08,259
RESTRICTED POTENTIALLY MORE. 

3864
02:26:08,259 --> 02:26:11,829
THESE ARE MONIES THAT HAVE, IN 

3865
02:26:11,829 --> 02:26:13,764
THE PAST BEEN ACCESSED DIRECTLY 

3866
02:26:13,764 --> 02:26:14,398
BY SPD FOR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES 

3867
02:26:14,398 --> 02:26:18,569
OR OTHER PURCHASES. AND WE ARE. 

3868
02:26:18,569 --> 02:26:20,171
YOUR CENTRAL STAFF IS TRYING TO 

3869
02:26:20,171 --> 02:26:21,672
DETERMINE HOW THAT THOSE FUNDS 

3870
02:26:21,672 --> 02:26:23,441
COULD BE BROUGHT TO BEAR ON THE 

3871
02:26:23,441 --> 02:26:25,376
BUDGET PROCESS ONE WAY OR 

3872
02:26:25,376 --> 02:26:28,713
ANOTHER. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT 

3873
02:26:28,713 --> 02:26:31,983
THAT THE DEPARTMENT THAT THE 

3874
02:26:31,983 --> 02:26:33,885
THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE 

3875
02:26:33,885 --> 02:26:37,121
ABLE TO APPROPRIATE THESE FUNDS.

3876
02:26:37,121 --> 02:26:37,789
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN 

3877
02:26:37,789 --> 02:26:38,923
THAT THE DEPARTMENT COULDN'T USE

3878
02:26:38,923 --> 02:26:40,024
THEM IN OTHER AREAS. THERE'S 

3879
02:26:40,024 --> 02:26:41,926
USUALLY A STRICT SUPPLANTING 

3880
02:26:41,926 --> 02:26:43,995
RULE THAT YOU CAN'T SUPPLANT 

3881
02:26:43,995 --> 02:26:46,430
EXISTING FUNDS, BUT AND AS I 

3882
02:26:46,430 --> 02:26:49,167
SAID, THERE'S EXPENDITURE RULES

3883
02:26:49,167 --> 02:26:52,170
AND AND WE ARE LOOKING INTO 

3884
02:26:52,170 --> 02:26:52,370
THAT. 

3885
02:26:52,370 --> 02:26:53,771
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. 

3886
02:26:53,771 --> 02:26:55,306
AND BUILDING ON THIS POINT, I 

3887
02:26:55,306 --> 02:26:56,874
KNOW WHEN WE HAD INTERIM CHIEF 

3888
02:26:56,874 --> 02:26:58,643
SALES AT THE TABLE, I ASKED A 

3889
02:26:58,643 --> 02:27:00,745
QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 

3890
02:27:00,745 --> 02:27:02,847
EVERY SWORN OFFICER IS EQUIPPED 

3891
02:27:02,847 --> 02:27:04,015
WITH A TASER, A LESS LETHAL 

3892
02:27:04,015 --> 02:27:06,417
OPTION. DID WE EVER HE AT THE 

3893
02:27:06,417 --> 02:27:07,652
TIME, SAID HE DID NOT HAVE AN 

3894
02:27:07,652 --> 02:27:09,420
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. DID WE 

3895
02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:10,421
EVER RECEIVE AN ANSWER FROM THE 

3896
02:27:10,421 --> 02:27:12,924
DEPARTMENT ON THAT? 

3897
02:27:12,924 --> 02:27:15,059
-- WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE 

3898
02:27:15,059 --> 02:27:17,662
DEPARTMENT ON THAT QUESTION IS A

3899
02:27:17,662 --> 02:27:20,531
REFERENCE TO SPD POLICY THAT 

3900
02:27:20,531 --> 02:27:23,668
EVERY OFFICER CARRY AT LEAST ONE

3901
02:27:23,668 --> 02:27:25,503
FORM OF LESS LETHAL WEAPON, 

3902
02:27:25,503 --> 02:27:27,471
WHETHER IT IS A BATON OR A TASER

3903
02:27:27,471 --> 02:27:32,276
OR PEPPER SPRAY, AND THAT WHEN 

3904
02:27:32,276 --> 02:27:35,012
THEY COME OUT OF THE ACADEMY, 

3905
02:27:35,012 --> 02:27:41,219
THEY ARE THEY ARE OFFERED A 

3906
02:27:41,219 --> 02:27:42,920
TASER AND THAT THEY CARRY THE 

3907
02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:45,456
TASER, BUT THAT LATER ON IT 

3908
02:27:45,456 --> 02:27:47,291
BECOMES THEIR OPTION AS TO WHAT 

3909
02:27:47,291 --> 02:27:48,860
KIND OF LESS LETHAL WEAPON THEY 

3910
02:27:48,860 --> 02:27:53,030
WANT TO CARRY. THAT THAT WAS THE

3911
02:27:53,030 --> 02:27:55,733
ANSWER THAT WE RECEIVED. 

3912
02:27:55,733 --> 02:27:57,034
-- THEY HAVE A CHOICE IN WHICH 

3913
02:27:57,034 --> 02:27:58,035
KIND OF LESS LETHAL WEAPON THEY 

3914
02:27:58,035 --> 02:27:59,136
WANT TO CARRY, BUT THEY MUST 

3915
02:27:59,136 --> 02:28:02,640
HAVE ONE ON THEM AT ALL TIMES. 

3916
02:28:02,640 --> 02:28:02,940
-- CORRECT. 

3917
02:28:02,940 --> 02:28:03,841
-- UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. I 

3918
02:28:03,841 --> 02:28:04,575
COLLEAGUES, I DIG INTO THESE 

3919
02:28:04,575 --> 02:28:06,711
QUESTIONS. OF COURSE, THERE'S 

3920
02:28:06,711 --> 02:28:08,546
BEEN MUCH CONVERSATION OVER THE 

3921
02:28:08,546 --> 02:28:10,081
YEARS AROUND POLICE USE OF 

3922
02:28:10,081 --> 02:28:12,149
FORCE, AND WE HAVE SEEN FAR TOO 

3923
02:28:12,149 --> 02:28:14,185
MANY. TO BE CLEAR, ONE IS TOO 

3924
02:28:14,185 --> 02:28:16,721
MANY PEOPLE DIE IN POLICE 

3925
02:28:16,721 --> 02:28:18,856
CUSTODY. AND SO I IT IS 

3926
02:28:18,856 --> 02:28:21,292
IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE ENSURE 

3927
02:28:21,292 --> 02:28:23,594
THAT FOLKS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT

3928
02:28:23,594 --> 02:28:24,629
HAS LESS HAVE LESS LETHAL 

3929
02:28:24,629 --> 02:28:25,763
OPTIONS. AND WE'RE ALSO 

3930
02:28:25,763 --> 02:28:28,532
CONTINUING TO WORK ON 

3931
02:28:28,532 --> 02:28:29,834
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES. I HAVE 

3932
02:28:29,834 --> 02:28:30,701
JUST TWO MORE POINTS I WANT TO 

3933
02:28:30,701 --> 02:28:32,436
TOUCH ON. ONE SHOULD HOPEFULLY 

3934
02:28:32,436 --> 02:28:33,804
BE VERY QUICK. I KNOW IT'S 

3935
02:28:33,804 --> 02:28:36,641
ALREADY BEEN RAISED. CHALLENGES 

3936
02:28:36,641 --> 02:28:38,909
AROUND THE HIRING OF THE DIE IN 

3937
02:28:38,909 --> 02:28:40,278
30 BY 30 POSITIONS. MY QUESTION 

3938
02:28:40,278 --> 02:28:41,913
IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. DO WE 

3939
02:28:41,913 --> 02:28:44,548
KNOW IF THE DEPARTMENT POSTED 

3940
02:28:44,548 --> 02:28:50,521
THOSE POSITIONS 

3941
02:28:50,521 --> 02:28:50,855
-- MR. DOSS. 

3942
02:28:50,855 --> 02:28:51,889
-- POSTED IS IN ADVERTISED FOR 

3943
02:28:51,889 --> 02:28:53,524
THEM TO BE FILLED, CORRECT? NO, 

3944
02:28:53,524 --> 02:28:57,795
I DO NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I, I 

3945
02:28:57,795 --> 02:28:59,597
DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE 

3946
02:28:59,597 --> 02:29:01,699
CASE. BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP AND 

3947
02:29:01,699 --> 02:29:01,966
FIND OUT. 

3948
02:29:01,966 --> 02:29:03,434
-- THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

3949
02:29:03,434 --> 02:29:07,004
AND MY LAST QUESTION FOR TODAY. 

3950
02:29:07,004 --> 02:29:07,872
COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH. WE 

3951
02:29:07,872 --> 02:29:09,006
HAVEN'T SPENT TOO MUCH TIME 

3952
02:29:09,006 --> 02:29:11,475
TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY 

3953
02:29:11,475 --> 02:29:14,178
IMPLICATIONS AND IMPACT OF THE 

3954
02:29:14,178 --> 02:29:15,546
$13 MILLION OVERPAYMENT TO THE 

3955
02:29:15,546 --> 02:29:18,616
SEATTLE POLICE OFFICERS GUILD. 

3956
02:29:18,616 --> 02:29:20,084
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU 

3957
02:29:20,084 --> 02:29:22,053
COULD TAKE A MOMENT TO WALK 

3958
02:29:22,053 --> 02:29:22,653
THROUGH THAT OVERPAYMENT, THE 

3959
02:29:22,653 --> 02:29:27,224
PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AND 

3960
02:29:27,224 --> 02:29:27,758
UNDERSTANDING, AND IS MY 

3961
02:29:27,758 --> 02:29:30,895
UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS FUNDING,

3962
02:29:30,895 --> 02:29:33,464
WE COULD HAVE USED THIS MONEY TO

3963
02:29:33,464 --> 02:29:36,100
BACKFILL YEAR END SUPPLEMENTAL 

3964
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:37,668
APPROPRIATIONS OR FUND OTHER 

3965
02:29:37,668 --> 02:29:38,703
PRIORITIES ACROSS THE CITY 

3966
02:29:38,703 --> 02:29:39,370
BUDGET. SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU

3967
02:29:39,370 --> 02:29:40,838
COULD TAKE A MOMENT AND TALK US 

3968
02:29:40,838 --> 02:29:42,440
THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF 

3969
02:29:42,440 --> 02:29:44,542
THIS OVERPAYMENT AND WHAT IT 

3970
02:29:44,542 --> 02:29:44,775
MEANS. 

3971
02:29:44,775 --> 02:29:46,877
-- YEAH. SO I THINK PROBABLY 

3972
02:29:46,877 --> 02:29:48,713
MEMBERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE 

3973
02:29:48,713 --> 02:29:51,315
THE GENERAL ISSUE, BUT WHAT 

3974
02:29:51,315 --> 02:29:52,283
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THERE 

3975
02:29:52,283 --> 02:29:58,489
WAS AN ERROR MADE IN THE PAYMENT

3976
02:29:58,489 --> 02:29:59,090
THAT WENT TO OFFICERS EARLIER 

3977
02:29:59,090 --> 02:30:02,393
THIS YEAR IN JUNE, AND IT WAS 

3978
02:30:02,393 --> 02:30:04,862
THE RESULT OF A MISCALCULATION 

3979
02:30:04,862 --> 02:30:08,499
IN THE RATE ADJUSTMENT AND THE 

3980
02:30:08,499 --> 02:30:11,369
MISCALCULATION. MISCALCULATION 

3981
02:30:11,369 --> 02:30:14,004
RESULTED IN 13 MILLION MORE 

3982
02:30:14,004 --> 02:30:15,973
BEING PAID TO OFFICERS AS PART 

3983
02:30:15,973 --> 02:30:18,743
OF THE RETRO PAYMENT AND THE 

3984
02:30:18,743 --> 02:30:23,514
AMOUNT THAT EACH OFFICER 

3985
02:30:23,514 --> 02:30:24,148
RECEIVED VARIES. IT COULD BE A 

3986
02:30:24,148 --> 02:30:25,950
LOW AMOUNT. IT COULD BE UP TO 30

3987
02:30:25,950 --> 02:30:28,486
SOME THOUSAND. IT REALLY DEPENDS

3988
02:30:28,486 --> 02:30:30,321
ON THE SENIORITY OF THE OFFICER 

3989
02:30:30,321 --> 02:30:34,658
AND HOW MUCH THEY MAKE. IT IS 

3990
02:30:34,658 --> 02:30:38,596
THE CASE THAT THIS FUNDING IS IS

3991
02:30:38,596 --> 02:30:41,132
BEING DISCUSSED BY THE CITY'S 

3992
02:30:41,132 --> 02:30:43,901
LABOR RELATIONS OFFICE WITH THE 

3993
02:30:43,901 --> 02:30:48,639
UNION TO DETERMINE HOW THE THE 

3994
02:30:48,639 --> 02:30:51,776
FUNDING GOT ADDED TO PAYCHECKS 

3995
02:30:51,776 --> 02:30:57,248
AND WHO GOT WHAT FUNDING AND HOW

3996
02:30:57,248 --> 02:30:59,517
HOW THAT MIGHT BE MOVED FORWARD.

3997
02:30:59,517 --> 02:31:01,819
THE ISSUE THE STATE LAW ALLOWS 

3998
02:31:01,819 --> 02:31:03,220
THE UNION TO BARGAIN ABOUT HOW 

3999
02:31:03,220 --> 02:31:06,824
THAT MONEY MIGHT BE RETURNED TO 

4000
02:31:06,824 --> 02:31:09,393
THE CITY. AND SO IT'S THE CASE 

4001
02:31:09,393 --> 02:31:11,095
THAT THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET, 

4002
02:31:11,095 --> 02:31:12,897
BECAUSE OF THE LENGTHY 

4003
02:31:12,897 --> 02:31:14,465
BARGAINING PROCESS, DOES NOT 

4004
02:31:14,465 --> 02:31:16,767
ASSUME THAT THAT MONEY WILL BE 

4005
02:31:16,767 --> 02:31:18,936
COMING BACK THIS YEAR, OR, I'M 

4006
02:31:18,936 --> 02:31:21,505
SORRY, NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR 

4007
02:31:21,505 --> 02:31:22,840
AFTER. IT IS THE CASE THAT IT 

4008
02:31:22,840 --> 02:31:24,208
WOULD HAVE BEEN GENERAL FUND 

4009
02:31:24,208 --> 02:31:26,744
MONEY. AND YES, IT COULD HAVE 

4010
02:31:26,744 --> 02:31:28,078
BEEN USED FOR ANY PURPOSE. THE 

4011
02:31:28,078 --> 02:31:31,749
GENERAL FUND WOULD PAY, 

4012
02:31:31,749 --> 02:31:34,351
INCLUDING THE $6 MILLION OVERAGE

4013
02:31:34,351 --> 02:31:36,253
THAT SPD IS FACING AT THE END OF

4014
02:31:36,253 --> 02:31:38,722
2026. HAVE I LEFT ANYTHING OUT 

4015
02:31:38,722 --> 02:31:39,323
OR DO COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY 

4016
02:31:39,323 --> 02:31:41,992
QUESTIONS 

4017
02:31:41,992 --> 02:31:44,361
-- ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THIS 

4018
02:31:44,361 --> 02:31:45,729
POINT. THANK YOU FOR WALKING US 

4019
02:31:45,729 --> 02:31:47,264
THROUGH THAT, GREG. THIS IS 

4020
02:31:47,264 --> 02:31:50,334
OBVIOUSLY A VERY UNFORTUNATE 

4021
02:31:50,334 --> 02:31:52,436
SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN AS A 

4022
02:31:52,436 --> 02:31:53,170
CITY AND PUTTING IT LIGHTLY. SO 

4023
02:31:53,170 --> 02:31:55,339
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT 

4024
02:31:55,339 --> 02:31:56,574
INCENTIVES EXIST FOR THE SEATTLE

4025
02:31:56,574 --> 02:32:01,512
POLICE OFFICER GUILD TO RETURN 

4026
02:32:01,512 --> 02:32:03,914
TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN A TIMELY 

4027
02:32:03,914 --> 02:32:04,181
FASHION. 

4028
02:32:04,181 --> 02:32:05,149
-- THAT'S A QUESTION FOR LABOR 

4029
02:32:05,149 --> 02:32:05,783
RELATIONS. I WILL GET BACK TO 

4030
02:32:05,783 --> 02:32:06,684
YOU. 

4031
02:32:06,684 --> 02:32:07,551
-- THANK YOU GREG. THANK YOU, 

4032
02:32:07,551 --> 02:32:08,686
CHAIR. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 

4033
02:32:08,686 --> 02:32:10,254
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

4034
02:32:10,254 --> 02:32:11,822
RINCK ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM 

4035
02:32:11,822 --> 02:32:14,425
THE TABLE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? 

4036
02:32:14,425 --> 02:32:16,293
SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING ON TO 

4037
02:32:16,293 --> 02:32:17,294
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. AND THEN 

4038
02:32:17,294 --> 02:32:19,630
ANYONE WHO HAS NOT SPOKE. 

4039
02:32:19,630 --> 02:32:21,165
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN 

4040
02:32:21,165 --> 02:32:23,367
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. 

4041
02:32:23,367 --> 02:32:23,834
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

4042
02:32:23,834 --> 02:32:24,635
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR, I 

4043
02:32:24,635 --> 02:32:26,937
APPRECIATE THAT AND AS ALWAYS, 

4044
02:32:26,937 --> 02:32:28,672
THANK YOU TO THE STAFF, TO 

4045
02:32:28,672 --> 02:32:29,206
CENTRAL STAFF AND REALLY 

4046
02:32:29,206 --> 02:32:31,342
APPRECIATE YOU, GREG, FOR FOR 

4047
02:32:31,342 --> 02:32:32,610
YOUR WORK. MUCH HAS ALREADY BEEN

4048
02:32:32,610 --> 02:32:34,178
SAID ABOUT THAT ALREADY. I HAVE 

4049
02:32:34,178 --> 02:32:35,112
A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS I WANT

4050
02:32:35,112 --> 02:32:37,715
TO GET INTO, SOME OF WHICH HAVE 

4051
02:32:37,715 --> 02:32:39,617
ALREADY BEEN TOUCHED ON, AND I 

4052
02:32:39,617 --> 02:32:41,051
APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER LYNN'S

4053
02:32:41,051 --> 02:32:43,554
QUESTIONS EARLIER. IN TERMS OF 

4054
02:32:43,554 --> 02:32:45,756
THE PROJECTED HIRING. SO IF WE 

4055
02:32:45,756 --> 02:32:47,758
CAN TURN TO THE CHART IN YOUR 

4056
02:32:47,758 --> 02:32:50,027
MEMO, THAT SORT OF SHOWS THE 

4057
02:32:50,027 --> 02:32:51,929
PROJECTED GROWTH. I BELIEVE 

4058
02:32:51,929 --> 02:32:59,870
IT'S FIVE. OH, NOPE. YEP. FIVE.

4059
02:32:59,870 --> 02:33:00,571
THERE WE GO. I JUST WANTED I 

4060
02:33:00,571 --> 02:33:01,438
WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. 

4061
02:33:01,438 --> 02:33:02,373
THERE'S BEEN THIS SOME OF THE 

4062
02:33:02,373 --> 02:33:03,908
DISCUSSION TODAY. WE'VE WE'VE 

4063
02:33:03,908 --> 02:33:08,145
BEEN USING THE WORD CAP IN TERMS

4064
02:33:08,145 --> 02:33:11,382
OF THE NUMBER OF, OF OFFICERS. 

4065
02:33:11,382 --> 02:33:13,384
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THAT 

4066
02:33:13,384 --> 02:33:15,886
ACTUALLY CAPS THE NUMBER OF 

4067
02:33:15,886 --> 02:33:17,254
OFFICERS BEYOND BUDGET. AND 

4068
02:33:17,254 --> 02:33:18,756
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE REALLY 

4069
02:33:18,756 --> 02:33:22,726
BETWEEN USING THE WORD CAP OR 

4070
02:33:22,726 --> 02:33:26,163
PROJECTION? 

4071
02:33:26,163 --> 02:33:26,697
-- I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT. 

4072
02:33:26,697 --> 02:33:31,569
THERE'S NOT A CAP. IT IS THE 

4073
02:33:31,569 --> 02:33:34,104
CASE THAT 1250 FTE SETS A 

4074
02:33:34,104 --> 02:33:35,839
LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF 

4075
02:33:35,839 --> 02:33:37,708
OFFICERS THAT CAN BE HIRED. IT 

4076
02:33:37,708 --> 02:33:39,443
IS WITHIN THE MAYOR'S PURVIEW 

4077
02:33:39,443 --> 02:33:44,215
AND THE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO ADD

4078
02:33:44,215 --> 02:33:47,551
MORE FUNDING IN FUTURE YEARS AND

4079
02:33:47,551 --> 02:33:49,186
KEEP THE KEEP THE OFFICER GROWTH

4080
02:33:49,186 --> 02:33:52,256
HAPPENING. THIS PARTICULAR CHART

4081
02:33:52,256 --> 02:33:55,426
ASSUMES THAT IT WILL STAY WITHIN

4082
02:33:55,426 --> 02:33:58,662
1250 FTE, WHICH AGAIN, NOT A 

4083
02:33:58,662 --> 02:34:00,164
CAP, A LIMITATION ON THE AMOUNT 

4084
02:34:00,164 --> 02:34:02,266
OF MONEY THAT YOU CAN USE FOR 

4085
02:34:02,266 --> 02:34:04,568
YOUR SWORN FORCE. OKAY. 

4086
02:34:04,568 --> 02:34:06,370
-- AND AND I'LL ADD THAT THE 

4087
02:34:06,370 --> 02:34:08,806
COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING BUDGETS 

4088
02:34:08,806 --> 02:34:11,675
FOR 2027, 2028 AND DECISIONS 

4089
02:34:11,675 --> 02:34:14,411
ABOUT 2029 AND 30 ARE TO COME IN

4090
02:34:14,411 --> 02:34:16,080
A COUPLE OF YEARS. 

4091
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:17,848
-- THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT,

4092
02:34:17,848 --> 02:34:19,350
AND I THINK THE REASON I WANTED 

4093
02:34:19,350 --> 02:34:20,251
TO TURN THIS HERE IS I JUST I 

4094
02:34:20,251 --> 02:34:22,553
HEARD THE CAP WORD EARLIER, AND 

4095
02:34:22,553 --> 02:34:24,021
I JUST IT SEEMED A LITTLE 

4096
02:34:24,021 --> 02:34:24,655
STRONGER THAN MY UNDERSTANDING 

4097
02:34:24,655 --> 02:34:26,523
OF, OBVIOUSLY, OUR ABILITY AS A 

4098
02:34:26,523 --> 02:34:27,157
COUNCIL AND OUR DETERMINATIONS 

4099
02:34:27,157 --> 02:34:29,693
THAT WE CAN MAKE ABOUT FUTURE 

4100
02:34:29,693 --> 02:34:30,928
BUDGETS. AND I SORT OF AM JUST 

4101
02:34:30,928 --> 02:34:33,063
TRYING TO BRIDGE THAT ALONGSIDE 

4102
02:34:33,063 --> 02:34:35,699
WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS 

4103
02:34:35,699 --> 02:34:37,768
THERE'S A CURRENT ANALYSIS 

4104
02:34:37,768 --> 02:34:38,402
HAPPENING INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT 

4105
02:34:38,402 --> 02:34:40,004
THAT'S MEANT TO TAKE INTO 

4106
02:34:40,004 --> 02:34:41,205
ACCOUNT WITH THE CARE TEAM AND 

4107
02:34:41,205 --> 02:34:42,773
WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT 

4108
02:34:42,773 --> 02:34:44,475
THIS COUNCIL AND PREVIOUS 

4109
02:34:44,475 --> 02:34:45,676
COUNCILS HAVE BEEN MAKING IN 

4110
02:34:45,676 --> 02:34:46,977
TERMS OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE 

4111
02:34:46,977 --> 02:34:48,479
HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE 

4112
02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:50,214
RESPONSE AS WELL AS POLICE 

4113
02:34:50,214 --> 02:34:52,383
RESPONSE. SO THAT REPORT IS 

4114
02:34:52,383 --> 02:34:53,651
MEANT TO COME OUT LATER THIS 

4115
02:34:53,651 --> 02:34:56,253
YEAR. IS THAT CORRECT? 

4116
02:34:56,253 --> 02:34:58,155
-- YES. 

4117
02:34:58,155 --> 02:34:58,856
-- OKAY. AND AND SO WE WOULD BE 

4118
02:34:58,856 --> 02:35:00,257
ABLE TO USE THE INFORMATION IN 

4119
02:35:00,257 --> 02:35:03,260
THAT REPORT TO MAYBE UPDATE OUR 

4120
02:35:03,260 --> 02:35:03,894
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR GOALS 

4121
02:35:03,894 --> 02:35:05,329
AND OUR TARGETS NEED TO BE AS 

4122
02:35:05,329 --> 02:35:07,097
WE, AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY, 

4123
02:35:07,097 --> 02:35:09,333
TRY TO ACHIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE IS

4124
02:35:09,333 --> 02:35:10,200
OUR SHARED GOAL, WHICH IS TO 

4125
02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:11,368
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT

4126
02:35:11,368 --> 02:35:13,337
RESPONSE TO EACH CALL. AND 

4127
02:35:13,337 --> 02:35:15,406
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I CARE 

4128
02:35:15,406 --> 02:35:18,809
DEEPLY ABOUT. I DON'T WANT OUR 

4129
02:35:18,809 --> 02:35:19,410
CONSTITUENTS CALLING 911 AND 

4130
02:35:19,410 --> 02:35:21,412
EITHER HAVING TO WAIT TOO LONG 

4131
02:35:21,412 --> 02:35:22,046
TO GET SOMEBODY TO THEM. AND I 

4132
02:35:22,046 --> 02:35:23,647
ALSO DON'T WANT CONSTITUENTS 

4133
02:35:23,647 --> 02:35:25,249
CALLING 911 AND HAVING THE WRONG

4134
02:35:25,249 --> 02:35:27,618
KIND OF RESPONSE SHOW UP. AND I 

4135
02:35:27,618 --> 02:35:28,419
BELIEVE THAT'S AND I KNOW WE'RE

4136
02:35:28,419 --> 02:35:29,920
GOING TO GET INTO CARE LATER ON 

4137
02:35:29,920 --> 02:35:31,221
TODAY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S SO 

4138
02:35:31,221 --> 02:35:34,124
MUCH OF THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE

4139
02:35:34,124 --> 02:35:34,958
TRYING TO ACHIEVE. AND IN ORDER 

4140
02:35:34,958 --> 02:35:36,660
TO DO THAT, I THINK IT'S 

4141
02:35:36,660 --> 02:35:38,362
APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE AN 

4142
02:35:38,362 --> 02:35:42,866
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE EXPECT 

4143
02:35:42,866 --> 02:35:43,500
THE FULL DEPLOYMENT OF THE CARE 

4144
02:35:43,500 --> 02:35:46,303
TEAM TO RELATE BACK TO OUR NEEDS

4145
02:35:46,303 --> 02:35:47,871
FOR OFFICERS. AND SO I JUST 

4146
02:35:47,871 --> 02:35:48,505
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 

4147
02:35:48,505 --> 02:35:50,941
RIGHT NOW WITH THE STUDY THAT'S

4148
02:35:50,941 --> 02:35:52,209
BEEN DONE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT 

4149
02:35:52,209 --> 02:35:54,378
THAT CARE WAS NOT TAKEN INTO 

4150
02:35:54,378 --> 02:35:56,313
ACCOUNT WITH THOSE FUTURE 

4151
02:35:56,313 --> 02:35:58,115
PROJECTIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? 

4152
02:35:58,115 --> 02:35:59,183
-- THAT'S CORRECT. 

4153
02:35:59,183 --> 02:36:00,150
-- OKAY. I REALLY LOOK, I HOPE 

4154
02:36:00,150 --> 02:36:02,252
WE CAN GET A PROJECTED DATE FROM

4155
02:36:02,252 --> 02:36:03,187
THE DEPARTMENT ON THOSE NUMBERS.

4156
02:36:03,187 --> 02:36:04,688
AND I WILL SAY, I JUST 

4157
02:36:04,688 --> 02:36:05,255
APPRECIATE SOME OF THE WORK 

4158
02:36:05,255 --> 02:36:06,423
THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE 

4159
02:36:06,423 --> 02:36:08,859
BACKGROUND THROUGH THE Q AMP, A 

4160
02:36:08,859 --> 02:36:09,927
DOC, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET 

4161
02:36:09,927 --> 02:36:13,063
SORT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF 

4162
02:36:13,063 --> 02:36:14,531
THE IMPACT OF THE CARE TEAM WHEN

4163
02:36:14,531 --> 02:36:15,833
IT COMES TO SPD RESPONSE. SO 

4164
02:36:15,833 --> 02:36:17,601
I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY JUST 

4165
02:36:17,601 --> 02:36:18,335
READ OUT SOMETHING, BECAUSE I 

4166
02:36:18,335 --> 02:36:20,637
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO READ 

4167
02:36:20,637 --> 02:36:21,438
INTO THE RECORD. AND I KNOW 

4168
02:36:21,438 --> 02:36:22,706
WE'RE STILL GATHERING DATA. SO 

4169
02:36:22,706 --> 02:36:24,041
THIS IS JUST PART OF IT. SO I'M

4170
02:36:24,041 --> 02:36:25,342
GOING TO I'M GOING TO THE Q AMP

4171
02:36:25,342 --> 02:36:27,010
A DOC AS I SEE YOU OVER THERE AT

4172
02:36:27,010 --> 02:36:31,515
THE TABLE. SO I KNOW IT SAYS SPD

4173
02:36:31,515 --> 02:36:33,751
HAS COMPLETED 5165 BEHAVIORAL 

4174
02:36:33,751 --> 02:36:35,352
CRISIS REPORTS FOR 2025 YEAR TO 

4175
02:36:35,352 --> 02:36:37,521
DATE, WHICH WAS WRAPPED UP IN 

4176
02:36:37,521 --> 02:36:39,656
83125. SO THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF 

4177
02:36:39,656 --> 02:36:43,327
21.38 PER DAY AND INVOLVES 3592 

4178
02:36:43,327 --> 02:36:45,596
UNIQUELY IDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS,

4179
02:36:45,596 --> 02:36:48,999
WHICH IS A DECREASE OF ABOUT 

4180
02:36:48,999 --> 02:36:50,567
13.42% LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS 

4181
02:36:50,567 --> 02:36:53,437
YEAR'S YEAR TO DATE. SO IN 

4182
02:36:53,437 --> 02:36:55,706
2025, THAT WAS AN AVERAGE OF 

4183
02:36:55,706 --> 02:36:57,741
21.38 PER DAY COMPARED TO 2024, 

4184
02:36:57,741 --> 02:37:00,911
WHICH WAS AN AVERAGE OF 24.19 

4185
02:37:00,911 --> 02:37:02,212
CASES PER DAY. NOW WE SHOULD 

4186
02:37:02,212 --> 02:37:03,180
WAIT FOR THE REPORT. WE SHOULD 

4187
02:37:03,180 --> 02:37:03,847
MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE ROLE

4188
02:37:03,847 --> 02:37:05,516
OF CARE. WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND 

4189
02:37:05,516 --> 02:37:07,885
THIS TREND. BUT AND I, GREG, I 

4190
02:37:07,885 --> 02:37:08,452
WELCOME ANY COMMENTS, BUT I 

4191
02:37:08,452 --> 02:37:10,387
SUPPOSE THIS IS MORE OF A 

4192
02:37:10,387 --> 02:37:12,256
STATEMENT JUST FOR ME. IT'S 

4193
02:37:12,256 --> 02:37:12,890
IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE TRACKING 

4194
02:37:12,890 --> 02:37:15,559
WHAT KINDS OF CALLS SPD IS 

4195
02:37:15,559 --> 02:37:17,361
RESPONDING TO, WHETHER THERE'S 

4196
02:37:17,361 --> 02:37:18,495
A LOWER OCCURRENCE OF THOSE 

4197
02:37:18,495 --> 02:37:20,931
CALLS, OR IF WE'RE SUCCESSFULLY

4198
02:37:20,931 --> 02:37:22,933
GETTING AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE 

4199
02:37:22,933 --> 02:37:24,468
DEPLOYED FOR THOSE CALLS AND 

4200
02:37:24,468 --> 02:37:25,068
ENSURING THAT OUR PROJECTIONS 

4201
02:37:25,068 --> 02:37:27,604
FOR THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT 

4202
02:37:27,604 --> 02:37:28,605
WE NEED ALIGNS WITH THAT. SO 

4203
02:37:28,605 --> 02:37:29,306
THAT'S SOMETHING I JUST I WILL 

4204
02:37:29,306 --> 02:37:30,307
SAY, AS A COUNCILMEMBER, I 

4205
02:37:30,307 --> 02:37:31,809
REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING 

4206
02:37:31,809 --> 02:37:34,778
ABLE TO DIG INTO BECAUSE I ALSO 

4207
02:37:34,778 --> 02:37:37,848
KNOW AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY 

4208
02:37:37,848 --> 02:37:39,349
APPRECIATE THE OFFICERS AT SPD. 

4209
02:37:39,349 --> 02:37:40,517
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A 

4210
02:37:40,517 --> 02:37:42,486
RIDE ALONG. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE 

4211
02:37:42,486 --> 02:37:43,821
HERE DO THOSE QUARTERLY OR 

4212
02:37:43,821 --> 02:37:46,557
FREQUENTLY WITH WITH OUR 

4213
02:37:46,557 --> 02:37:49,626
OFFICERS AND SEEING THE SORTS OF

4214
02:37:49,626 --> 02:37:50,260
BEHAVIORAL RESPONSE CHALLENGES 

4215
02:37:50,260 --> 02:37:51,595
THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY 

4216
02:37:51,595 --> 02:37:52,796
RESPONDING TO, AS WELL AS THE 

4217
02:37:52,796 --> 02:37:54,598
AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR

4218
02:37:54,598 --> 02:37:56,533
FOLKS TO RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS,

4219
02:37:56,533 --> 02:37:57,501
IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST 

4220
02:37:57,501 --> 02:38:00,804
CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, 

4221
02:38:00,804 --> 02:38:01,805
PARTICULARLY WHEN I THINK ABOUT 

4222
02:38:01,805 --> 02:38:04,007
THE CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN 

4223
02:38:04,007 --> 02:38:05,042
RELATED TO VIOLENT CRIME OR, YOU

4224
02:38:05,042 --> 02:38:06,109
KNOW, I SAT WITH SOME SMALL 

4225
02:38:06,109 --> 02:38:07,377
BUSINESSES WHO SAID THEY I 

4226
02:38:07,377 --> 02:38:08,912
TALKED TO BUSINESS OWNERS WHO 

4227
02:38:08,912 --> 02:38:10,681
SAID HE WAITED 15 HOURS TO GET 

4228
02:38:10,681 --> 02:38:12,416
SOMEBODY TO SHOW UP. AND I THINK

4229
02:38:12,416 --> 02:38:13,150
THERE'S CLEARLY MORE WORK TO 

4230
02:38:13,150 --> 02:38:14,485
DO. I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN SORT

4231
02:38:14,485 --> 02:38:19,022
OF TAKE AN APPROACH TO THIS THAT

4232
02:38:19,022 --> 02:38:20,757
FEELS NUANCED AND SORT OF 

4233
02:38:20,757 --> 02:38:22,226
UTILIZES THE DATA AND THE 

4234
02:38:22,226 --> 02:38:24,862
INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO

4235
02:38:24,862 --> 02:38:25,896
US. HAVING SAID THAT, AND HAPPY 

4236
02:38:25,896 --> 02:38:27,197
TO TAKE ANY RESPONSE FROM THE 

4237
02:38:27,197 --> 02:38:28,131
TABLE. THANK YOU FOR THAT, 

4238
02:38:28,131 --> 02:38:28,866
CHAIR, IF YOU HAVE ONE, BUT 

4239
02:38:28,866 --> 02:38:32,436
OTHERWISE, I'LL KEEP GOING 

4240
02:38:32,436 --> 02:38:34,004
THROUGH MY QUESTIONS. I WANT TO 

4241
02:38:34,004 --> 02:38:36,440
TURN TO PAGE FIVE IN YOUR 

4242
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:37,975
REPORT, AND I'VE PUT MY MIC ON 

4243
02:38:37,975 --> 02:38:39,510
TOP OF MY PAGE. GIVE ME ONE 

4244
02:38:39,510 --> 02:38:47,384
SECOND, MR. DAS 

4245
02:38:47,618 --> 02:38:51,154
-- ONE MORE HERE. 

4246
02:38:51,154 --> 02:38:53,857
-- OKAY, SO AS I'M LOOKING AT 

4247
02:38:53,857 --> 02:38:56,493
THIS, I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF 

4248
02:38:56,493 --> 02:38:59,329
THE COMMENTARY AROUND THE 

4249
02:38:59,329 --> 02:39:00,197
BOTTLENECK IN FULLY TRAINED 

4250
02:39:00,197 --> 02:39:01,198
OFFICERS. AND SO THIS IS THE 

4251
02:39:01,198 --> 02:39:02,499
SECTION WHERE YOU SORT OF TALK 

4252
02:39:02,499 --> 02:39:06,336
ABOUT THE NEED FOR US TO HAVE 

4253
02:39:06,336 --> 02:39:06,870
ADDITIONAL FIELD TRAINING 

4254
02:39:06,870 --> 02:39:10,140
OFFICERS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE

4255
02:39:10,140 --> 02:39:12,509
TO, TO SPEED UP OUR PACE OF 

4256
02:39:12,509 --> 02:39:13,777
GETTING NEW RECRUITS. AND JUST 

4257
02:39:13,777 --> 02:39:15,145
SOMETHING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME 

4258
02:39:15,145 --> 02:39:16,046
IS THE FOOTNOTE THAT YOU HAVE 

4259
02:39:16,046 --> 02:39:18,215
HERE, WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT 

4260
02:39:18,215 --> 02:39:19,850
CAN'T ASSIGN OFFICERS TO BE 

4261
02:39:19,850 --> 02:39:21,985
TRAINERS. THE SPD CONTRACT 

4262
02:39:21,985 --> 02:39:23,687
STIPULATES THAT OFFICERS MUST 

4263
02:39:23,687 --> 02:39:25,322
VOLUNTEER FOR THIS ASSIGNMENT. 

4264
02:39:25,322 --> 02:39:27,758
AND I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S A 

4265
02:39:27,758 --> 02:39:29,626
COMMON PLACE, IF THAT'S A 

4266
02:39:29,626 --> 02:39:33,196
STANDARD SORT OF IN CONTRACTS 

4267
02:39:33,196 --> 02:39:34,998
BETWEEN UNIONS AND POLICE 

4268
02:39:34,998 --> 02:39:35,332
DEPARTMENTS. 

4269
02:39:35,332 --> 02:39:36,033
-- I DON'T KNOW. I'LL GET BACK

4270
02:39:36,033 --> 02:39:36,466
TO YOU ON THAT. 

4271
02:39:36,466 --> 02:39:38,635
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. IT JUST IT 

4272
02:39:38,635 --> 02:39:39,670
STUCK OUT TO ME BECAUSE I KNOW 

4273
02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:41,972
THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE FIELD

4274
02:39:41,972 --> 02:39:42,973
TRAINING OFFICERS THERE IN ORDER

4275
02:39:42,973 --> 02:39:43,774
TO THEN MAKE THE PROGRESS THAT 

4276
02:39:43,774 --> 02:39:46,276
WE NEED TO MAKE ON GETTING 

4277
02:39:46,276 --> 02:39:47,945
STUDENTS THROUGH THE PROGRAM, 

4278
02:39:47,945 --> 02:39:49,012
AND THAT FOOTNOTE JUST STUCK OUT

4279
02:39:49,012 --> 02:39:51,315
TO ME AS I WAS LOOKING AT THAT. 

4280
02:39:51,315 --> 02:39:53,584
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING 

4281
02:39:53,584 --> 02:39:54,318
MORE INFORMATION AND TRYING TO 

4282
02:39:54,318 --> 02:39:54,985
FIGURE OUT, AGAIN, WHAT WE CAN 

4283
02:39:54,985 --> 02:39:56,853
DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT 

4284
02:39:56,853 --> 02:40:00,023
MORE RECRUITS COMING IN AND 

4285
02:40:00,023 --> 02:40:02,826
SUCCESSFULLY MOVING THROUGH THE 

4286
02:40:02,826 --> 02:40:03,593
DEPARTMENT. I THEN I JUST WANT 

4287
02:40:03,593 --> 02:40:06,263
TO TURN, I GUESS, MAYBE JUST A 

4288
02:40:06,263 --> 02:40:07,764
LITTLE BIT MORE GLOBALLY FOR A 

4289
02:40:07,764 --> 02:40:10,334
SECOND. AND MAYBE THIS IS A 

4290
02:40:10,334 --> 02:40:12,469
QUESTION FOR LISH. CAN WE CAN 

4291
02:40:12,469 --> 02:40:14,838
YOU JUST REMIND US, AND I THINK 

4292
02:40:14,838 --> 02:40:15,472
COUNCILMEMBER LIN SPOKE TO THIS 

4293
02:40:15,472 --> 02:40:16,239
A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT THE 

4294
02:40:16,239 --> 02:40:17,808
SIZE OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT WHEN 

4295
02:40:17,808 --> 02:40:23,547
WE WERE COMING INTO THIS YEAR. 

4296
02:40:23,547 --> 02:40:28,685
-- I THINK IT'S IT WAS $149 

4297
02:40:28,685 --> 02:40:29,453
MILLION, $175 MILLION AT ONE 

4298
02:40:29,453 --> 02:40:31,021
POINT. IT CHANGES AS THE 

4299
02:40:31,021 --> 02:40:32,689
PROJECTIONS CHANGE. 

4300
02:40:32,689 --> 02:40:34,124
-- SOMETIMES I SAY 175, 

4301
02:40:34,124 --> 02:40:35,325
SOMETIMES I SAY 149. BUT AT 

4302
02:40:35,325 --> 02:40:35,959
DIFFERENT POINTS IN THE YEAR, WE

4303
02:40:35,959 --> 02:40:37,594
HAD THESE REALLY LARGE BUDGET 

4304
02:40:37,594 --> 02:40:38,762
PROJECTIONS EXCUSE ME, BUDGET 

4305
02:40:38,762 --> 02:40:40,897
DEFICIT PROJECTIONS. AND I THE 

4306
02:40:40,897 --> 02:40:41,999
THING I GUESS I'VE JUST BEEN 

4307
02:40:41,999 --> 02:40:43,734
STRUGGLING WITH, AND THIS IS 

4308
02:40:43,734 --> 02:40:45,502
MORE OF A COMMENT TO BE CANDID. 

4309
02:40:45,502 --> 02:40:46,603
AND I PROBABLY MORE OF A COMMENT

4310
02:40:46,603 --> 02:40:48,572
THAN I USUALLY MAKE FROM THE 

4311
02:40:48,572 --> 02:40:50,374
DAIS EVEN IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S 

4312
02:40:50,374 --> 02:40:53,010
A, THAT'S A BIG BUDGET DEFICIT.

4313
02:40:53,010 --> 02:40:54,544
AND AS A CHALLENGING YEAR. AND I

4314
02:40:54,544 --> 02:40:56,546
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT SO MANY

4315
02:40:56,546 --> 02:40:57,180
PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL AND THE 

4316
02:40:57,180 --> 02:40:58,415
STAFF AND OTHERS HAVE DONE OVER 

4317
02:40:58,415 --> 02:40:59,916
THE YEARS TO, TO GET OUR HIRING 

4318
02:40:59,916 --> 02:41:01,451
WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE AND THE 

4319
02:41:01,451 --> 02:41:03,086
TREND THAT WE NEED TO GO IN. AND

4320
02:41:03,086 --> 02:41:04,021
SOMETHING THAT HAS JUST BEEN 

4321
02:41:04,021 --> 02:41:05,989
SITTING WITH ME AS I'M LOOKING 

4322
02:41:05,989 --> 02:41:06,957
ACROSS THE BUDGETS IS THAT, AS 

4323
02:41:06,957 --> 02:41:08,091
COUNCILMEMBER LIN SPOKE TO THIS 

4324
02:41:08,091 --> 02:41:10,594
EARLIER, WE'RE WE ARE CONTINUING

4325
02:41:10,594 --> 02:41:13,163
TO INVEST IN OFFICER HIRING, AS 

4326
02:41:13,163 --> 02:41:15,232
WE SHOULD. THIS BUDGET FUNDS THE

4327
02:41:15,232 --> 02:41:16,433
CONTRACT NEGOTIATION. WE'RE 

4328
02:41:16,433 --> 02:41:17,768
GOING TO GET INTO THE HSD BUDGET

4329
02:41:17,768 --> 02:41:19,202
LATER ON TODAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, 

4330
02:41:19,202 --> 02:41:20,470
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WE 

4331
02:41:20,470 --> 02:41:22,072
LOOK AT EVEN THE HSD BUDGET AND 

4332
02:41:22,072 --> 02:41:23,540
SOME OF THE PREVIOUS WORK 

4333
02:41:23,540 --> 02:41:25,008
THAT'S BEEN DONE AROUND 

4334
02:41:25,008 --> 02:41:27,644
ENSURING WE HAVE OUR HUMAN 

4335
02:41:27,644 --> 02:41:28,245
SERVICES WORKERS GETTING PAID 

4336
02:41:28,245 --> 02:41:30,547
FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT IN 

4337
02:41:30,547 --> 02:41:33,250
THIS BUDGET MAKING THE 2% WAGE 

4338
02:41:33,250 --> 02:41:35,385
EQUITY INCREASE. AND THOSE HUMAN

4339
02:41:35,385 --> 02:41:36,453
SERVICES CONTRACTS. SO I'M 

4340
02:41:36,453 --> 02:41:37,888
LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE 

4341
02:41:37,888 --> 02:41:38,488
DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT HAVE 

4342
02:41:38,488 --> 02:41:40,457
HAD TO BE MADE. AND IT'S JUST 

4343
02:41:40,457 --> 02:41:42,059
HARD FOR ME, AS I'M WATCHING, 

4344
02:41:42,059 --> 02:41:44,528
YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES IN THE 

4345
02:41:44,528 --> 02:41:45,796
OFFICE OF HOUSING BUDGET AS I'M

4346
02:41:45,796 --> 02:41:46,329
LOOKING AT THE DIFFICULT 

4347
02:41:46,329 --> 02:41:48,598
DECISIONS IN HSD, IT'S JUST BEEN

4348
02:41:48,598 --> 02:41:49,099
CHALLENGING TO HEAR THE 

4349
02:41:49,099 --> 02:41:50,934
NARRATIVE OF UNDERFUNDING AND 

4350
02:41:50,934 --> 02:41:53,503
DEFUNDING WHEN IT COMES TO SPD. 

4351
02:41:53,503 --> 02:41:57,474
AND I SAY THAT AS SOMEBODY WHO 

4352
02:41:57,474 --> 02:41:59,076
REALLY BELIEVES THAT WE DO NEED 

4353
02:41:59,076 --> 02:42:01,244
MORE OFFICERS THAN WE HAVE RIGHT

4354
02:42:01,244 --> 02:42:02,179
NOW, BUT ALSO SOMEBODY WHO I 

4355
02:42:02,179 --> 02:42:03,880
THINK IS LOOKING ACROSS WHAT'S 

4356
02:42:03,880 --> 02:42:05,615
HAPPENING WITH OUR CITY BUDGET 

4357
02:42:05,615 --> 02:42:07,517
AND SEEING THAT WE'RE HAVING TO

4358
02:42:07,517 --> 02:42:09,953
MAKE REALLY CHALLENGING 

4359
02:42:09,953 --> 02:42:10,687
DECISIONS, SOME OF WHICH ARE, 

4360
02:42:10,687 --> 02:42:12,389
YOU KNOW, HARMING OUR ABILITY, I

4361
02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:13,323
WOULD SAY, TO MAKE PROGRESS ON 

4362
02:42:13,323 --> 02:42:14,991
GOALS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD FOR 

4363
02:42:14,991 --> 02:42:16,860
A LONG TIME AND OTHER FORMS OF 

4364
02:42:16,860 --> 02:42:18,095
WAGE EQUITY. SO IT JUST FEELS 

4365
02:42:18,095 --> 02:42:19,096
IMPORTANT FOR ME TO, TO SORT OF 

4366
02:42:19,096 --> 02:42:23,600
SAY THAT INTO THE RECORD TODAY 

4367
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:25,635
LASTLY, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, 

4368
02:42:25,635 --> 02:42:26,336
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK ALREADY 

4369
02:42:26,336 --> 02:42:29,172
SPOKE TO THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT 

4370
02:42:29,172 --> 02:42:31,274
ARE THERE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE 

4371
02:42:31,274 --> 02:42:33,810
THE PROPOSED SPD BUDGET THAT 

4372
02:42:33,810 --> 02:42:34,344
SPECIFICALLY INCREASE OUR 

4373
02:42:34,344 --> 02:42:36,513
INVESTMENTS IN ANYTHING RELATED 

4374
02:42:36,513 --> 02:42:37,714
TO ACCOUNTABILITY OR THE 

4375
02:42:37,714 --> 02:42:38,348
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME 

4376
02:42:38,348 --> 02:42:40,150
OUT OF SOME OF THE VARIOUS 

4377
02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:42,018
REPORTS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS?

4378
02:42:42,018 --> 02:42:45,155
REGARDING INCIDENTS REGARDING 

4379
02:42:45,155 --> 02:42:48,125
SAFETY OR CRITICAL INCIDENTS 

4380
02:42:48,125 --> 02:42:48,492
WITH OFFICERS. 

4381
02:42:48,492 --> 02:42:52,696
-- WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT 

4382
02:42:52,696 --> 02:42:53,296
COUNCILMEMBER IS THAT THE THE 

4383
02:42:53,296 --> 02:42:55,465
INCREASE IN THE SEATTLE POLICE 

4384
02:42:55,465 --> 02:43:00,370
OFFICERS GUILD CONTRACT REFLECTS

4385
02:43:00,370 --> 02:43:02,005
NEGOTIATION AND BARGAINING WITH 

4386
02:43:02,005 --> 02:43:04,174
THE UNION ON A NUMBER OF THOSE 

4387
02:43:04,174 --> 02:43:06,042
ISSUES. AND IN THE LAST 

4388
02:43:06,042 --> 02:43:11,448
CONTRACT, THE LAST COUPLE 

4389
02:43:11,448 --> 02:43:12,015
CONTRACTS THE THE CITY HAS 

4390
02:43:12,015 --> 02:43:12,749
BARGAINED ACCOUNTABILITY CHANGES

4391
02:43:12,749 --> 02:43:14,985
PURSUANT TO THE 2017 

4392
02:43:14,985 --> 02:43:17,954
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE AND 

4393
02:43:17,954 --> 02:43:18,588
OTHER PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL.

4394
02:43:18,588 --> 02:43:22,592
AND THOSE. SOME OF THOSE HAVE 

4395
02:43:22,592 --> 02:43:24,661
BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE 

4396
02:43:24,661 --> 02:43:26,663
CONTRACT AND ARE NOW PART OF SPD

4397
02:43:26,663 --> 02:43:31,034
POLICY. SO IT'S HAPPENING 

4398
02:43:31,034 --> 02:43:32,869
OUTSIDE THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT 

4399
02:43:32,869 --> 02:43:35,172
THE NEXUS IS THE INCREASE FOR 

4400
02:43:35,172 --> 02:43:35,572
OFFICER SALARIES. 

4401
02:43:35,572 --> 02:43:37,274
-- OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU SO 

4402
02:43:37,274 --> 02:43:38,275
MUCH. THANK YOU CHAIR. 

4403
02:43:38,275 --> 02:43:41,211
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, 

4404
02:43:41,211 --> 02:43:41,845
COLLEAGUES. ANY OTHER FOLKS WHO 

4405
02:43:41,845 --> 02:43:43,113
HAVE NOT YET SPOKEN THAT WOULD 

4406
02:43:43,113 --> 02:43:45,682
LIKE TO SPEAK, SEEING NONE RIGHT

4407
02:43:45,682 --> 02:43:47,551
NOW. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH

4408
02:43:47,551 --> 02:43:49,186
MY QUESTIONS PRETTY QUICKLY. AND

4409
02:43:49,186 --> 02:43:50,220
THEN COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA WILL 

4410
02:43:50,220 --> 02:43:51,688
COME BACK TO YOU, AND THEN WE 

4411
02:43:51,688 --> 02:43:53,356
WILL COME BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER 

4412
02:43:53,356 --> 02:43:57,460
KETTLE TO CLOSE US OUT. I'M NOT

4413
02:43:57,460 --> 02:44:00,530
GOING TO WE'VE GOT A A WIDE 

4414
02:44:00,530 --> 02:44:02,199
SPECTRUM OF DIFFERENT 

4415
02:44:02,199 --> 02:44:02,833
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD 

4416
02:44:02,833 --> 02:44:04,668
HERE ON THE DAIS. AND I FIND IT 

4417
02:44:04,668 --> 02:44:05,702
ALL TO BE HEALTHY AND HELPFUL. 

4418
02:44:05,702 --> 02:44:06,803
AND I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT 

4419
02:44:06,803 --> 02:44:10,841
FOLKS HAVE SAID, EVEN WHEN 

4420
02:44:10,841 --> 02:44:11,508
THEY'RE DISAGREEING. AND SO I 

4421
02:44:11,508 --> 02:44:12,676
WANT TO JUST CHECK IN. I'M NOT 

4422
02:44:12,676 --> 02:44:14,611
GOING TO REPEAT THE ISSUE ID 

4423
02:44:14,611 --> 02:44:16,112
THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY 

4424
02:44:16,112 --> 02:44:17,914
RAISED. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER

4425
02:44:17,914 --> 02:44:19,082
QUESTIONS. AND GREG, I DIDN'T 

4426
02:44:19,082 --> 02:44:20,250
PREP YOU FOR THIS ONE, BUT I 

4427
02:44:20,250 --> 02:44:24,487
KNOW BACK IN PRE-PANDEMIC, 

4428
02:44:24,487 --> 02:44:26,022
HARBOR PATROL WAS NOT USING 911.

4429
02:44:26,022 --> 02:44:27,424
THEY WERE USING THEIR OWN PHONE 

4430
02:44:27,424 --> 02:44:28,992
NUMBER. AND SO THAT MEANT THAT 

4431
02:44:28,992 --> 02:44:32,462
WE COULDN'T QUITE GET THEIR 

4432
02:44:32,462 --> 02:44:33,964
DATA. DO YOU KNOW IF HARBOR 

4433
02:44:33,964 --> 02:44:34,898
PATROL HAS FULLY, PARTIALLY OR 

4434
02:44:34,898 --> 02:44:37,834
NOT AT ALL, TRANSFERRED TO 911? 

4435
02:44:37,834 --> 02:44:39,569
FIND OUT. THANK YOU. AND WHEN 

4436
02:44:39,569 --> 02:44:41,171
YOU DO FIND OUT, I WOULD LOVE TO

4437
02:44:41,171 --> 02:44:43,406
RECEIVE THEIR 911 DATA TO SEE 

4438
02:44:43,406 --> 02:44:45,108
WHAT TYPES OF CALLS THEY ARE 

4439
02:44:45,108 --> 02:44:48,211
RESPONDING TO AS COMPARED TO 

4440
02:44:48,211 --> 02:44:50,747
2019. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE 

4441
02:44:50,747 --> 02:44:53,283
HARBOR PATROL IS ONE OF THOSE 

4442
02:44:53,283 --> 02:44:54,451
UNIQUE TYPES OF POLICING THAT 

4443
02:44:54,451 --> 02:44:55,719
THE CITY OF SEATTLE HAS TO 

4444
02:44:55,719 --> 02:44:58,154
ENGAGE IN, AND WE REALLY DIDN'T

4445
02:44:58,154 --> 02:44:59,556
HAVE ANY CLEAN DATA FOR THEM IN 

4446
02:44:59,556 --> 02:45:01,524
2019. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE 

4447
02:45:01,524 --> 02:45:03,827
IMPORTANT TO SEE THEM TODAY. I 

4448
02:45:03,827 --> 02:45:06,529
MAY ASK YOU TO GO THROUGH I, I 

4449
02:45:06,529 --> 02:45:09,633
FIND THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE 

4450
02:45:09,633 --> 02:45:10,200
MOST IN-DEPTH PRESENTATIONS 

4451
02:45:10,200 --> 02:45:11,735
WE'VE RECEIVED FROM YOU TO 

4452
02:45:11,735 --> 02:45:13,737
DATE. IT'S REALLY QUITE 

4453
02:45:13,737 --> 02:45:15,472
IMPRESSIVE, ESPECIALLY UNDER 

4454
02:45:15,472 --> 02:45:18,575
POLICY CONSIDERATION TWO. SLIDE 

4455
02:45:18,575 --> 02:45:19,709
ONE OF FOUR OF WHAT ARE THE 

4456
02:45:19,709 --> 02:45:22,045
RIGHT NUMBER OF OFFICERS. THOSE 

4457
02:45:22,045 --> 02:45:23,413
COMPARISONS BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE

4458
02:45:23,413 --> 02:45:24,347
DIFFERENT CITIES. I'M NOT GOING

4459
02:45:24,347 --> 02:45:25,849
TO SPEND OUR COMMUNAL TIME 

4460
02:45:25,849 --> 02:45:26,950
DIGGING INTO THIS WITH YOU, BUT 

4461
02:45:26,950 --> 02:45:28,251
I WILL COME AND FOLLOW UP AND 

4462
02:45:28,251 --> 02:45:29,853
ASK YOU SOME ADDITIONAL 

4463
02:45:29,853 --> 02:45:32,322
QUESTIONS AND YOUR 

4464
02:45:32,322 --> 02:45:32,923
IDENTIFICATION OF SEATTLE'S 

4465
02:45:32,923 --> 02:45:37,661
UNIQUE TOPOGRAPHY AND LAND WATER

4466
02:45:37,661 --> 02:45:38,295
RELATIONSHIP CHANGES EVERYTHING 

4467
02:45:38,295 --> 02:45:39,629
AS COMPARED TO MANY OTHER 

4468
02:45:39,629 --> 02:45:41,197
CITIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE

4469
02:45:41,197 --> 02:45:43,333
FLAT AND HAVE GRIDS THAT MAKE 

4470
02:45:43,333 --> 02:45:45,135
SENSE COMPARED TO YESLER AND 

4471
02:45:45,135 --> 02:45:47,270
DENNY FIGHTING AND HAVING A 

4472
02:45:47,270 --> 02:45:48,438
MISMATCHED GRID. BUT I CAN TELL 

4473
02:45:48,438 --> 02:45:49,906
YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PIKE 

4474
02:45:49,906 --> 02:45:51,508
AND PINE. MOVING ON, I WANT TO 

4475
02:45:51,508 --> 02:45:54,210
ASK YOU, GETTING INTO THESE 

4476
02:45:54,210 --> 02:45:55,612
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT 

4477
02:45:55,612 --> 02:45:57,547
CIVILIANS, I DIDN'T I KNOW WHEN

4478
02:45:57,547 --> 02:45:58,882
CHIEF SALES WAS HERE. WE HAD 

4479
02:45:58,882 --> 02:46:01,551
TALKED ABOUT THE AUTOMOBILE 

4480
02:46:01,551 --> 02:46:02,218
STAFF MEMBER THAT IS BEING LAID 

4481
02:46:02,218 --> 02:46:03,286
OFF. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THIS 

4482
02:46:03,286 --> 02:46:04,421
PRESENTATION. I DO WANT TO JUST 

4483
02:46:04,421 --> 02:46:07,857
CHECK IN. IS THAT WRAPPED INTO 

4484
02:46:07,857 --> 02:46:10,393
THE CIVILIAN G GENERAL 

4485
02:46:10,393 --> 02:46:11,027
INVESTIGATIONS UNIT REDUCTIONS, 

4486
02:46:11,027 --> 02:46:13,296
OR IS THERE A SEPARATE. 

4487
02:46:13,296 --> 02:46:15,565
-- NO COUNCILMEMBER THAT IS NOT 

4488
02:46:15,565 --> 02:46:18,335
PART OF THE CIVILIAN 

4489
02:46:18,335 --> 02:46:18,935
INVESTIGATIONS, THE CIVILIAN 

4490
02:46:18,935 --> 02:46:20,937
INVESTIGATIONS REDUCTION, THOSE 

4491
02:46:20,937 --> 02:46:26,209
SEVEN FTE ARE STRICTLY TO ASSIST

4492
02:46:26,209 --> 02:46:27,410
DETECTIVES WITH INVESTIGATIONS. 

4493
02:46:27,410 --> 02:46:31,548
THE AUTO RECORDS UNIT REDUCTION 

4494
02:46:31,548 --> 02:46:34,651
IS ONE POSITION. THAT IS AN 

4495
02:46:34,651 --> 02:46:37,220
ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST, ONE, 

4496
02:46:37,220 --> 02:46:37,821
THE DEPARTMENT BELIEVES THAT 

4497
02:46:37,821 --> 02:46:39,756
THIS WILL NOT AFFECT AUTO 

4498
02:46:39,756 --> 02:46:42,659
RECORDS IN ANY WAY. THERE STILL 

4499
02:46:42,659 --> 02:46:44,160
ARE 23 FTE. AFTER THAT 

4500
02:46:44,160 --> 02:46:44,461
REDUCTION. 

4501
02:46:44,461 --> 02:46:46,096
-- OKAY. THANK YOU FOR DIGGING 

4502
02:46:46,096 --> 02:46:49,432
INTO THAT. SO YOU'RE HEARING 

4503
02:46:49,432 --> 02:46:50,867
FROM THE DEPARTMENT THAT 

4504
02:46:50,867 --> 02:46:52,702
THERE'LL BE NO IMPACT FROM. 

4505
02:46:52,702 --> 02:46:54,604
I'LL ASK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS 

4506
02:46:54,604 --> 02:46:55,772
AFTER, YOU KNOW, DIG INTO THIS A

4507
02:46:55,772 --> 02:47:00,510
LITTLE BIT MORE AND I'LL COME 

4508
02:47:00,510 --> 02:47:01,211
BACK TO YOU. I'M QUITE CONCERNED

4509
02:47:01,211 --> 02:47:04,447
THAT IF WE ARE LAYING THIS STAFF

4510
02:47:04,447 --> 02:47:06,916
PERSON OFF, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO 

4511
02:47:06,916 --> 02:47:08,351
HAVE HAD THINGS SEATTLEITES AND 

4512
02:47:08,351 --> 02:47:10,053
VISITORS TO SEATTLE WHO HAVE HAD

4513
02:47:10,053 --> 02:47:12,122
THINGS STOLEN FROM THEM, 

4514
02:47:12,122 --> 02:47:13,923
INCLUDING THEIR CARS, WILL HAVE 

4515
02:47:13,923 --> 02:47:15,225
A HARDER TIME GETTING THEM BACK.

4516
02:47:15,225 --> 02:47:19,029
AND SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU 

4517
02:47:19,029 --> 02:47:21,231
TO UNDERSTAND YOUR ANALYSIS OF 

4518
02:47:21,231 --> 02:47:23,266
THIS IMPACT. BUT I DON'T FIND IT

4519
02:47:23,266 --> 02:47:28,638
TO BE A GOOD DECISION IF THIS 

4520
02:47:28,638 --> 02:47:30,040
DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON PEOPLE 

4521
02:47:30,040 --> 02:47:32,409
GETTING THE THINGS BACK FROM 

4522
02:47:32,409 --> 02:47:33,943
THEM THAT WERE STOLEN. AND, YOU 

4523
02:47:33,943 --> 02:47:36,046
KNOW, I GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE 

4524
02:47:36,046 --> 02:47:37,947
SEVEN THAT WE HAD UP HERE ABOUT 

4525
02:47:37,947 --> 02:47:40,750
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF POLICE 

4526
02:47:40,750 --> 02:47:41,584
OFFICERS. SLIDE ONE OF FOUR. 

4527
02:47:41,584 --> 02:47:43,019
THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU 

4528
02:47:43,019 --> 02:47:44,687
KNOW, BOSTON, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE

4529
02:47:44,687 --> 02:47:47,490
GOT ABOUT 100,000 PEOPLE LESS 

4530
02:47:47,490 --> 02:47:50,794
THAN US, BUT THEY HAVE ONE 

4531
02:47:50,794 --> 02:47:52,228
QUARTER. THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY 

4532
02:47:52,228 --> 02:47:54,931
CRIMES, AND THEY HAVE 100 ABOUT 

4533
02:47:54,931 --> 02:47:58,435
ABOUT 100 LESS VIOLENT CRIMES. 

4534
02:47:58,435 --> 02:48:00,537
YOU KNOW, I JUST I SHARE THAT 

4535
02:48:00,537 --> 02:48:03,440
BECAUSE IF THESE TYPES OF CRIMES

4536
02:48:03,440 --> 02:48:06,109
ARE OCCURRING HERE IN OUR CITY, 

4537
02:48:06,109 --> 02:48:08,011
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE AS 

4538
02:48:08,011 --> 02:48:08,678
RESPONSIVE AS POSSIBLE AFTER THE

4539
02:48:08,678 --> 02:48:10,213
FACT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE MY 

4540
02:48:10,213 --> 02:48:11,548
CONCERN ABOUT THIS AUTOMOBILE 

4541
02:48:11,548 --> 02:48:12,816
STAFF IS. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO 

4542
02:48:12,816 --> 02:48:15,952
CATCHING UP WITH YOU MORE. ONE 

4543
02:48:15,952 --> 02:48:17,253
LAST QUESTION FROM ME FOR RIGHT 

4544
02:48:17,253 --> 02:48:18,588
NOW REGARDING PARKING 

4545
02:48:18,588 --> 02:48:19,589
ENFORCEMENT. IT MIGHT BE A 

4546
02:48:19,589 --> 02:48:21,791
SIMILAR QUESTION TO WHAT 

4547
02:48:21,791 --> 02:48:22,725
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA ASKED, BUT 

4548
02:48:22,725 --> 02:48:24,027
I'LL ASK IT IN MAYBE A SLIGHTLY

4549
02:48:24,027 --> 02:48:29,699
DIFFERENT WAY FOR CLARITY. WHY 

4550
02:48:29,699 --> 02:48:31,267
JUST A WHY OF THE POLICY 

4551
02:48:31,267 --> 02:48:33,603
CONSIDERATIONS. WHY? JUST A 

4552
02:48:33,603 --> 02:48:36,372
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT 

4553
02:48:36,372 --> 02:48:38,308
AND NOT RE-ADDING THE POSITIONS?

4554
02:48:38,308 --> 02:48:40,110
IS IT BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU 

4555
02:48:40,110 --> 02:48:40,643
REPORTED EARLIER THAT THE 

4556
02:48:40,643 --> 02:48:42,679
EXECUTIVE HASN'T HIRED THEM IN 

4557
02:48:42,679 --> 02:48:44,981
THE PAST, AND MAYBE FURTHER 

4558
02:48:44,981 --> 02:48:46,449
ELABORATE, HAS IT BEEN AN 

4559
02:48:46,449 --> 02:48:48,184
EXECUTIVE DECISION NOT TO HIRE, 

4560
02:48:48,184 --> 02:48:50,053
OR HAVE THE POSITIONS BEEN 

4561
02:48:50,053 --> 02:48:53,623
POSTED AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN 

4562
02:48:53,623 --> 02:48:55,425
FILLED? 

4563
02:48:55,425 --> 02:49:00,196
-- WHAT I KNOW OF THIS PROBLEM 

4564
02:49:00,196 --> 02:49:02,532
IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS HIRES 

4565
02:49:02,532 --> 02:49:04,634
FOR THE POSITIONS THAT THEY GET,

4566
02:49:04,634 --> 02:49:06,669
APPLICANTS FOR, THE JOBS THAT 

4567
02:49:06,669 --> 02:49:07,937
THEY PUT THEM INTO 

4568
02:49:07,937 --> 02:49:09,706
BACKGROUNDING, AND THEY HAVE TO 

4569
02:49:09,706 --> 02:49:11,774
DISQUALIFY ABOUT HALF OF THEM IN

4570
02:49:11,774 --> 02:49:13,476
BACKGROUNDING. THE AS MR. ETTER 

4571
02:49:13,476 --> 02:49:15,078
SAID, DIRECTOR PETER SAID, THE 

4572
02:49:15,078 --> 02:49:17,413
NATURAL SOLUTION TO THAT IS TO 

4573
02:49:17,413 --> 02:49:19,315
PUT MORE CANDIDATES INTO 

4574
02:49:19,315 --> 02:49:20,583
BACKGROUNDING SO THAT IF HALF 

4575
02:49:20,583 --> 02:49:21,985
FILLED OUT, YOU GET A LARGER 

4576
02:49:21,985 --> 02:49:23,319
NUMBER COMING OUT THE BACK END 

4577
02:49:23,319 --> 02:49:25,121
AND YOU CAN FILL YOUR VACANT 

4578
02:49:25,121 --> 02:49:27,323
POSITIONS. WHAT I HEARD DIRECTOR

4579
02:49:27,323 --> 02:49:30,293
SAY IS THAT HE IS GOING TO. HE 

4580
02:49:30,293 --> 02:49:34,030
IS GOING TO WORK ON THAT TO SEE 

4581
02:49:34,030 --> 02:49:35,498
IF THERE'S A WAY THAT THEY CAN 

4582
02:49:35,498 --> 02:49:38,935
IMPROVE THEIR PROCESS AND STAFF 

4583
02:49:38,935 --> 02:49:40,770
THE POSITIONS. I HAVE TO DEVELOP

4584
02:49:40,770 --> 02:49:42,772
OPTIONS FOR YOU AS PART OF THIS 

4585
02:49:42,772 --> 02:49:48,711
POLICY CONSIDERATION. I DID NOT 

4586
02:49:48,711 --> 02:49:50,947
PUT THE OUT OF 2.1 MILLION AND 

4587
02:49:50,947 --> 02:49:54,317
PROVISO ON THERE BECAUSE THE 

4588
02:49:54,317 --> 02:49:56,219
COUNCIL DID THIS AND THE 

4589
02:49:56,219 --> 02:49:58,288
EXECUTIVE DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE

4590
02:49:58,288 --> 02:50:02,725
OF IT I CONCEDE THAT IT COULD OR

4591
02:50:02,725 --> 02:50:05,862
SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE, AND THAT

4592
02:50:05,862 --> 02:50:07,230
THE COUNCIL CAN STILL DO THAT 

4593
02:50:07,230 --> 02:50:09,499
THIS YEAR. PUT ANOTHER OUT OF OF

4594
02:50:09,499 --> 02:50:11,367
REVENUE OR ANOTHER OUT OF 

4595
02:50:11,367 --> 02:50:12,635
APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY, BIND IT

4596
02:50:12,635 --> 02:50:13,403
UP WITH PROVISO AND SAY, WE WILL

4597
02:50:13,403 --> 02:50:15,672
GIVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU HIRE THE

4598
02:50:15,672 --> 02:50:17,173
POSITIONS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT 

4599
02:50:17,173 --> 02:50:18,875
IT WILL INCREASE FINE REVENUE 

4600
02:50:18,875 --> 02:50:21,311
AND IT'LL BE BACKED REVENUE 

4601
02:50:21,311 --> 02:50:21,544
BACKED. 

4602
02:50:21,544 --> 02:50:23,079
-- AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT 

4603
02:50:23,079 --> 02:50:24,314
CLARIFICATION. TRYING THE SAME 

4604
02:50:24,314 --> 02:50:26,416
THING REPEATEDLY, EXPECTING 

4605
02:50:26,416 --> 02:50:26,950
DIFFERENT RESULTS IS THE 

4606
02:50:26,950 --> 02:50:27,984
DEFINITION OF INSANITY. BUT IT 

4607
02:50:27,984 --> 02:50:30,420
MIGHT BE WORTH TRYING ONCE MORE 

4608
02:50:30,420 --> 02:50:33,523
BEFORE WE TOTALLY GIVE UP. IS 

4609
02:50:33,523 --> 02:50:33,756
THAT A. 

4610
02:50:33,756 --> 02:50:35,058
-- THANK YOU? FAIR. 

4611
02:50:35,058 --> 02:50:36,793
-- FAIR. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE 

4612
02:50:36,793 --> 02:50:38,161
YOU NOT JUST GIVING US IDEAS 

4613
02:50:38,161 --> 02:50:42,165
THAT HAVEN'T WORKED IN THE PAST.

4614
02:50:42,165 --> 02:50:43,666
THAT'S ACTUALLY QUITE HELPFUL. 

4615
02:50:43,666 --> 02:50:44,801
THE REASON I ASK ABOUT THIS IS 

4616
02:50:44,801 --> 02:50:47,437
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 

4617
02:50:47,437 --> 02:50:49,906
ENVIRONMENT OF HIRING, AND I 

4618
02:50:49,906 --> 02:50:51,975
BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THERE IS A

4619
02:50:51,975 --> 02:50:53,476
NEW CONTRACT FOR PARKING 

4620
02:50:53,476 --> 02:50:54,844
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WE 

4621
02:50:54,844 --> 02:50:55,878
JUST PASSED. I BELIEVE WE JUST 

4622
02:50:55,878 --> 02:50:57,747
PASSED THAT IN SEPTEMBER. IS 

4623
02:50:57,747 --> 02:50:59,482
THAT CORRECT? 

4624
02:50:59,482 --> 02:50:59,916
-- THAT IS CORRECT. 

4625
02:50:59,916 --> 02:51:01,918
-- AND WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THAT

4626
02:51:01,918 --> 02:51:04,854
USUALLY TAKES A SOLID 6 TO 9 

4627
02:51:04,854 --> 02:51:06,589
MONTHS AFTER A CONTRACT HAS 

4628
02:51:06,589 --> 02:51:08,191
PASSED, BEFORE WE START SEEING 

4629
02:51:08,191 --> 02:51:12,161
THAT CONTRACT, HAVE IMPLICATIONS

4630
02:51:12,161 --> 02:51:13,563
ON RECRUITMENT AND HIRING. 

4631
02:51:13,563 --> 02:51:15,264
THAT'S A STATEMENT FROM ME, NOT

4632
02:51:15,264 --> 02:51:17,033
A QUESTION. I BRING UP THIS 

4633
02:51:17,033 --> 02:51:18,167
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT JUST TO SAY 

4634
02:51:18,167 --> 02:51:19,369
THAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH TRYING 

4635
02:51:19,369 --> 02:51:22,238
ONE MORE TIME BEFORE WE'RE GOING

4636
02:51:22,238 --> 02:51:24,040
INTO THE LAND OF INSANITY, 

4637
02:51:24,040 --> 02:51:27,210
ASKING THE MAYOR TO HIRE PARKING

4638
02:51:27,210 --> 02:51:28,611
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ONLY 

4639
02:51:28,611 --> 02:51:30,179
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SLIGHTLY 

4640
02:51:30,179 --> 02:51:31,948
NEW ENVIRONMENT NOW, WITH AN 

4641
02:51:31,948 --> 02:51:33,383
UPDATED CONTRACT THAT I KNOW IT 

4642
02:51:33,383 --> 02:51:35,885
TOOK LONGER THAN WE WANTED TO 

4643
02:51:35,885 --> 02:51:38,187
GET IT DONE BECAUSE PARKING 

4644
02:51:38,187 --> 02:51:39,155
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO TOUGH 

4645
02:51:39,155 --> 02:51:40,456
WORK. I MEAN, I'M GOING TO I'M

4646
02:51:40,456 --> 02:51:43,693
GOING TO ASK IN HERE WHO ENJOYS 

4647
02:51:43,693 --> 02:51:46,162
GETTING A PARKING TICKET OKAY. 

4648
02:51:46,162 --> 02:51:47,764
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ ENJOYS IT. 

4649
02:51:47,764 --> 02:51:50,967
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK DOESN'T HAVE

4650
02:51:50,967 --> 02:51:54,170
A CAR. SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE 

4651
02:51:54,170 --> 02:51:56,139
THEY DO HARD WORK. THEY'RE WE'RE

4652
02:51:56,139 --> 02:51:57,774
OFTENTIMES PUTTING THEM IN 

4653
02:51:57,774 --> 02:52:01,044
VEHICLES THAT DON'T HAVE 

4654
02:52:01,044 --> 02:52:01,678
CLIMATE CONTROL. WE'RE ASKING 

4655
02:52:01,678 --> 02:52:06,416
THEM TO WORK ON OUR CITY STREETS

4656
02:52:06,416 --> 02:52:08,551
AND HAVE NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS 

4657
02:52:08,551 --> 02:52:09,652
WITH OUR COMMUNITY. ON BEHALF OF

4658
02:52:09,652 --> 02:52:11,320
OUR CITY OF SEATTLE TO ENSURE 

4659
02:52:11,320 --> 02:52:12,655
THAT PARKING IS TURNING OVER TO 

4660
02:52:12,655 --> 02:52:14,157
ENSURE PEOPLE ARE MEETING THE 

4661
02:52:14,157 --> 02:52:15,858
REGULATIONS OF OUR STREETS. AND 

4662
02:52:15,858 --> 02:52:16,893
IT'S REALLY HARD AND DIFFICULT 

4663
02:52:16,893 --> 02:52:18,194
WORK. AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS 

4664
02:52:18,194 --> 02:52:19,829
IMPORTANT TO GET THEM THEIR 

4665
02:52:19,829 --> 02:52:22,332
UPDATED CONTRACT. AND I WISH 

4666
02:52:22,332 --> 02:52:23,733
THAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT 

4667
02:52:23,733 --> 02:52:25,535
DONE SOONER. I BRING ALL THIS 

4668
02:52:25,535 --> 02:52:27,103
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT IN JUST TO 

4669
02:52:27,103 --> 02:52:31,474
SAY IT MIGHT BE WORTH TRYING ONE

4670
02:52:31,474 --> 02:52:33,076
MORE TIME. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY 

4671
02:52:33,076 --> 02:52:35,378
QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS FOR 

4672
02:52:35,378 --> 02:52:36,079
TODAY REGARDING THE POLICE 

4673
02:52:36,079 --> 02:52:38,014
DEPARTMENT. I WOULD HAVE GONE ON

4674
02:52:38,014 --> 02:52:40,450
MUCH LONGER, BUT WE'VE HAD THREE

4675
02:52:40,450 --> 02:52:42,385
HOURS OF CONVERSATION, AND SO 

4676
02:52:42,385 --> 02:52:45,388
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO 

4677
02:52:45,388 --> 02:52:46,689
YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, FOR 

4678
02:52:46,689 --> 02:52:49,425
ONE LAST COMMENT. AND THEN 

4679
02:52:49,425 --> 02:52:51,127
COUNCILMEMBER CLOSE US OUT 

4680
02:52:51,127 --> 02:52:52,495
BEFORE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, AND

4681
02:52:52,495 --> 02:52:53,129
WE'LL CHECK IN WITH CENTRAL 

4682
02:52:53,129 --> 02:52:54,564
STAFF AS WELL. I'VE GOT A FEW 

4683
02:52:54,564 --> 02:52:55,598
COMMENTS TO MAKE BEFORE WE GO TO

4684
02:52:55,598 --> 02:52:57,100
LUNCH WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER 

4685
02:52:57,100 --> 02:52:59,769
RIVERA. 

4686
02:52:59,769 --> 02:53:01,571
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. SO I JUST 

4687
02:53:01,571 --> 02:53:04,774
WANTED TO TO REVISIT THIS IDEA 

4688
02:53:04,774 --> 02:53:05,742
OF CAP VERSUS LIMITATION. I 

4689
02:53:05,742 --> 02:53:07,076
CALLED IT A CAP BECAUSE IT IS 

4690
02:53:07,076 --> 02:53:10,213
TRUE THAT IN 27 AND 28, WHICH IS

4691
02:53:10,213 --> 02:53:13,316
THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE 

4692
02:53:13,316 --> 02:53:15,184
LOOKING AT, THE NUMBER OF 

4693
02:53:15,184 --> 02:53:17,387
OFFICERS THAT WE CAN HIRE. NET 

4694
02:53:17,387 --> 02:53:19,355
NET ARE 43. AND SO IF WE HAVE 

4695
02:53:19,355 --> 02:53:21,691
MORE APPLICATIONS AND ABILITY TO

4696
02:53:21,691 --> 02:53:22,658
HIRE MORE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO 

4697
02:53:22,658 --> 02:53:24,861
BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE WHAT'S 

4698
02:53:24,861 --> 02:53:26,562
INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET IS JUST 

4699
02:53:26,562 --> 02:53:29,499
FUNDING FOR 43 NET NEW OVER THE 

4700
02:53:29,499 --> 02:53:31,334
BIENNIUM, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO 

4701
02:53:31,334 --> 02:53:34,771
THIS IS WHY I CALLED IT A CAP 

4702
02:53:34,771 --> 02:53:36,072
FOR THIS BUDGET, BECAUSE AGAIN, 

4703
02:53:36,072 --> 02:53:37,673
WE CAN'T HIRE MORE THAN WHAT 

4704
02:53:37,673 --> 02:53:40,042
WE'RE BUDGETED FOR. BUT IN, IN,

4705
02:53:40,042 --> 02:53:44,147
SORRY, IN 2025, WE HIRED 95 NET 

4706
02:53:44,147 --> 02:53:46,048
NEW. AND THEN IN THIS YEAR, 

4707
02:53:46,048 --> 02:53:50,453
WE'VE HIRED 52 OR 3 NET NEW, 

4708
02:53:50,453 --> 02:53:52,054
CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO MY 

4709
02:53:52,054 --> 02:53:54,023
CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE WE'RE 

4710
02:53:54,023 --> 02:53:58,327
WE'VE BEEN HIRING MORE. AND NOW

4711
02:53:58,327 --> 02:54:01,731
THIS BUDGET IS LIMITING US TO 

4712
02:54:01,731 --> 02:54:02,932
THE 43 OVER THE BIENNIUM. SO 

4713
02:54:02,932 --> 02:54:04,867
THAT'S WHY I CALLED IT A CAP. 

4714
02:54:04,867 --> 02:54:09,238
SO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT 

4715
02:54:09,238 --> 02:54:10,339
POINT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO

4716
02:54:10,339 --> 02:54:15,244
ASK GREG, IS ABOUT THE, THE 

4717
02:54:15,244 --> 02:54:16,679
ATTRITION PIECE. I HAD HEARD. SO

4718
02:54:16,679 --> 02:54:18,581
I JUST IF YOU COULD, COULD 

4719
02:54:18,581 --> 02:54:24,387
CONFIRM THIS, THAT IN ORDER TO 

4720
02:54:24,387 --> 02:54:27,056
MAINTAIN STATUS QUO, WHEN WE'RE

4721
02:54:27,056 --> 02:54:28,291
ACCOUNTING FOR ATTRITION, WE 

4722
02:54:28,291 --> 02:54:30,760
WOULD NEED TO HIRE OR NOT. WE, 

4723
02:54:30,760 --> 02:54:32,562
THE SPD WOULD HAVE TO HIRE 13 

4724
02:54:32,562 --> 02:54:35,932
PEOPLE A MONTH. BUT THAT WITH 

4725
02:54:35,932 --> 02:54:37,733
THIS PROPOSAL, THAT WOULD DROP 

4726
02:54:37,733 --> 02:54:39,802
TO NINE A MONTH AND YOU MAY NOT 

4727
02:54:39,802 --> 02:54:41,537
HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I'M 

4728
02:54:41,537 --> 02:54:43,806
HAPPY TO TAKE IT IF YOU DO. 

4729
02:54:43,806 --> 02:54:44,040
-- OR. 

4730
02:54:44,040 --> 02:54:44,340
-- BUT AYE. 

4731
02:54:44,340 --> 02:54:46,008
-- WANT TO. 

4732
02:54:46,008 --> 02:54:46,676
-- CONFIRM WHETHER THAT'S TRUE.

4733
02:54:46,676 --> 02:54:48,644
-- YEAH. COUNCILMAN, PLEASE. I 

4734
02:54:48,644 --> 02:54:52,715
THINK HIRING AT 13, 12 OR 13 

4735
02:54:52,715 --> 02:54:54,383
RECRUITS PER MONTH IS IS STILL 

4736
02:54:54,383 --> 02:54:59,021
AT A GROWTH RATE. SUSTAINMENT 

4737
02:54:59,021 --> 02:54:59,856
RATE IS MORE LIKE SEVEN RECRUITS

4738
02:54:59,856 --> 02:55:02,124
PER MONTH. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU 

4739
02:55:02,124 --> 02:55:06,162
SEE IN THE 2028 STAFFING PLAN, 

4740
02:55:06,162 --> 02:55:07,897
WHERE HIRING IS TAKEN FROM WHERE

4741
02:55:07,897 --> 02:55:09,665
IT IS NOW 12 OR 13 PER MONTH AND

4742
02:55:09,665 --> 02:55:11,634
WRAPPED DOWN TO SEVEN PER MONTH.

4743
02:55:11,634 --> 02:55:13,603
-- SO THAT'S ANOTHER VERSION OF

4744
02:55:13,603 --> 02:55:17,173
WE'RE LIMITED IN HOW MANY WE'RE

4745
02:55:17,173 --> 02:55:19,075
ABLE TO HIRE BASED ON WHAT THE 

4746
02:55:19,075 --> 02:55:21,577
FUNDING IS CONTAINED IN THE 2728

4747
02:55:21,577 --> 02:55:23,579
BUDGET. 

4748
02:55:23,579 --> 02:55:25,581
-- YES. AND ONE THING THAT IS 

4749
02:55:25,581 --> 02:55:28,217
IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THAT IS 

4750
02:55:28,217 --> 02:55:30,720
YOU MENTIONED THAT IN PRIOR 

4751
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:34,056
YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A RAMP UP 

4752
02:55:34,056 --> 02:55:41,564
IN HIRING AND THAT RAMP UP IN 

4753
02:55:41,564 --> 02:55:42,198
HIRING HAS NOT ALWAYS CAUSE HAS 

4754
02:55:42,198 --> 02:55:44,166
NOT ALWAYS BEEN FUNDED IN OR 

4755
02:55:44,166 --> 02:55:45,668
THOUGHT THROUGH IN A, IN A WAY 

4756
02:55:45,668 --> 02:55:47,670
THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING FOR 

4757
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:52,174
THE OUTYEAR COSTS. OFFICERS, 

4758
02:55:52,174 --> 02:55:54,176
ONCE THEY GET OUT OF THE ACADEMY

4759
02:55:54,176 --> 02:55:55,811
AND ARE OUT OF STUDENT BEING 

4760
02:55:55,811 --> 02:55:57,713
STUDENT OFFICERS, THEIR COSTS GO

4761
02:55:57,713 --> 02:55:59,081
UP CONSIDERABLY. SO THERE IS A 

4762
02:55:59,081 --> 02:56:02,852
IS A SHARP INCREASE IN COSTS IN 

4763
02:56:02,852 --> 02:56:04,120
PRIOR BUDGETS, THE FOCUS HAS 

4764
02:56:04,120 --> 02:56:06,522
BEEN AROUND HOW MANY CAN WE HIRE

4765
02:56:06,522 --> 02:56:08,124
AND IN THE END, WHAT THAT DOES 

4766
02:56:08,124 --> 02:56:11,093
IN FUTURE YEARS IS CREATE AN 

4767
02:56:11,093 --> 02:56:14,830
EXPECTED OR AN. IT IS AN 

4768
02:56:14,830 --> 02:56:16,799
UNEXPECTED, UNPLANNED. FOR COSTS

4769
02:56:16,799 --> 02:56:17,733
BECAUSE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT

4770
02:56:17,733 --> 02:56:21,771
BUDGET GOES UP. WHAT I THINK THE

4771
02:56:21,771 --> 02:56:24,140
CHANGE HERE IS THAT THIS IS MORE

4772
02:56:24,140 --> 02:56:26,375
FOCUSED ON THE BUDGET AND THE 

4773
02:56:26,375 --> 02:56:27,910
NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS IS 

4774
02:56:27,910 --> 02:56:29,078
GOING TO BE RESTRICTED BY THE 

4775
02:56:29,078 --> 02:56:30,146
BUDGET, INSTEAD OF JUST FULL 

4776
02:56:30,146 --> 02:56:32,515
SPEED AHEAD, WILL ADD MONEY 

4777
02:56:32,515 --> 02:56:32,748
LATER. 

4778
02:56:32,748 --> 02:56:33,950
-- YEAH. THANK YOU GREG. AND 

4779
02:56:33,950 --> 02:56:35,351
THAT'S MY POINT. WHEN I'M 

4780
02:56:35,351 --> 02:56:37,119
SAYING WE'RE WE'RE LIMITING 

4781
02:56:37,119 --> 02:56:38,821
OURSELVES AND WE DON'T EVEN 

4782
02:56:38,821 --> 02:56:42,725
HAVE THE STAFFING NUMBERS. WE 

4783
02:56:42,725 --> 02:56:44,093
HAD PRE-COVID. SO WE'RE STILL 

4784
02:56:44,093 --> 02:56:46,495
TRYING TO CATCH UP. AND THAT IS 

4785
02:56:46,495 --> 02:56:47,096
REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS I 

4786
02:56:47,096 --> 02:56:48,431
SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A 

4787
02:56:48,431 --> 02:56:50,499
CHARTERED RESPONSIBILITY AND WE 

4788
02:56:50,499 --> 02:56:54,704
NEED TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE 

4789
02:56:54,704 --> 02:56:56,672
DEMAND WHEN CONSTITUENTS ARE 

4790
02:56:56,672 --> 02:56:58,174
CALLING 911, WE NEED TO MAKE 

4791
02:56:58,174 --> 02:57:00,409
SURE THAT THAT WE'RE PROPERLY 

4792
02:57:00,409 --> 02:57:01,344
RESPONDING AND IT'S HARD TO DO 

4793
02:57:01,344 --> 02:57:04,847
SO IF WE'RE NOT STAFFED UP TO 

4794
02:57:04,847 --> 02:57:06,449
DO SO. SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY

4795
02:57:06,449 --> 02:57:07,850
THE CAP COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW 

4796
02:57:07,850 --> 02:57:08,985
SOMEONE WILL MAYBE WRITE ABOUT 

4797
02:57:08,985 --> 02:57:12,188
IT. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE 

4798
02:57:12,188 --> 02:57:14,256
THAT, YES, MY POINT IS WE ARE 

4799
02:57:14,256 --> 02:57:15,591
LIMITING OURSELVES AND HOW MANY 

4800
02:57:15,591 --> 02:57:17,326
OFFICERS THAT WE CAN HIRE. AND 

4801
02:57:17,326 --> 02:57:19,195
IT'S A MUCH LOWER NUMBER THAN 

4802
02:57:19,195 --> 02:57:20,730
WE'VE HIRED IN THE LAST TWO 

4803
02:57:20,730 --> 02:57:29,438
YEARS. AND THEN AYE. SORRY, 

4804
02:57:29,438 --> 02:57:32,708
CHAIR. OH, WHEN YOU SAID, WELL, 

4805
02:57:32,708 --> 02:57:34,210
I GUESS I'LL JUST TAKE THIS 

4806
02:57:34,210 --> 02:57:35,344
OFFLINE. IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU, 

4807
02:57:35,344 --> 02:57:38,547
CHAIR, FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME 

4808
02:57:38,547 --> 02:57:40,850
THERE. 

4809
02:57:40,850 --> 02:57:43,285
-- THANK YOU. COMMITTEE TABLE. 

4810
02:57:43,285 --> 02:57:44,153
ANY CLOSING COMMENTS FOR TODAY? 

4811
02:57:44,153 --> 02:57:45,488
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 

4812
02:57:45,488 --> 02:57:47,256
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE TO CLOSE US

4813
02:57:47,256 --> 02:57:47,456
OUT. 

4814
02:57:47,456 --> 02:57:50,893
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR. I TOO, 

4815
02:57:50,893 --> 02:57:52,395
ENJOYED THE CONVERSATION AND THE

4816
02:57:52,395 --> 02:57:55,297
VARIOUS POINTS THAT WERE RAISED.

4817
02:57:55,297 --> 02:57:55,731
I WOULD SAY IT'S 

4818
02:57:55,731 --> 02:57:57,900
-- QUITE CLEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T 

4819
02:57:57,900 --> 02:57:59,268
FULLY RECOVERED FROM THE DEFUND 

4820
02:57:59,268 --> 02:58:00,503
PERIOD, BUT WE WERE ON THE PATH 

4821
02:58:00,503 --> 02:58:04,573
OF RECOVERY. WE WERE. AND IF YOU

4822
02:58:04,573 --> 02:58:06,375
LOOK AT THIS BUDGET, IT IS 

4823
02:58:06,375 --> 02:58:09,045
ESSENTIALLY RELATED TO THIS BOG 

4824
02:58:09,045 --> 02:58:12,314
AGREEMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR 

4825
02:58:12,314 --> 02:58:14,050
THOSE MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVEN'T

4826
02:58:14,050 --> 02:58:15,785
SERVED ON SLC OR LRP, IT IS 

4827
02:58:15,785 --> 02:58:17,586
TRULY THE MOST FRUSTRATING 

4828
02:58:17,586 --> 02:58:19,455
COMMITTEE TO BE ON BECAUSE WE 

4829
02:58:19,455 --> 02:58:20,489
SHOULD HAVE HAD A NEW AGREEMENT 

4830
02:58:20,489 --> 02:58:23,059
WHEN THE LAST ONE EXPIRED. AND 

4831
02:58:23,059 --> 02:58:24,360
IMAGINE IF WE DID, WHERE WOULD 

4832
02:58:24,360 --> 02:58:26,028
WE BE TODAY? WE WOULDN'T BE 

4833
02:58:26,028 --> 02:58:26,896
TALKING ABOUT THIS. WE WOULD BE 

4834
02:58:26,896 --> 02:58:28,297
IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. SO ONE 

4835
02:58:28,297 --> 02:58:32,201
NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT 

4836
02:58:32,201 --> 02:58:33,302
OF NOT GETTING THAT DEAL DONE 

4837
02:58:33,302 --> 02:58:34,437
WHEN IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE 

4838
02:58:34,437 --> 02:58:35,971
DONE, AND THEN THE DELAY AND 

4839
02:58:35,971 --> 02:58:38,074
THEN THE CATCH UP AND THE IMPACT

4840
02:58:38,074 --> 02:58:43,746
THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY. AND I 

4841
02:58:43,746 --> 02:58:45,381
RECOGNIZE THERE'S SOME FOCUS 

4842
02:58:45,381 --> 02:58:48,084
RELATED TO POLICE IN TERMS OF 

4843
02:58:48,084 --> 02:58:48,718
LABOR, BUT I'LL REMIND YOU, 

4844
02:58:48,718 --> 02:58:52,354
THIS LOOK IN CNN TODAY WHOLESALE

4845
02:58:52,354 --> 02:58:53,889
U.S. INFLATION SOARED IN 

4846
02:58:53,889 --> 02:58:55,524
SEPTEMBER, ITS BIGGEST JUMP IN 

4847
02:58:55,524 --> 02:58:56,559
FOUR YEARS. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS 

4848
02:58:56,559 --> 02:59:00,329
TRANSLATES TO ME? ALL THE LABOR 

4849
02:59:00,329 --> 02:59:01,864
AGREEMENTS, CPI, YOU KNOW, WANT 

4850
02:59:01,864 --> 02:59:02,998
TO SIT IN THESE COMMITTEE 

4851
02:59:02,998 --> 02:59:05,534
MEETINGS. YOU KNOW, INFLATION 

4852
02:59:05,534 --> 02:59:07,169
WRECKS, BUDGETS. IT'S GOING TO 

4853
02:59:07,169 --> 02:59:09,738
BE INCREASED LABOR AGREEMENTS 

4854
02:59:09,738 --> 02:59:10,673
ACROSS THE BOARD. SO THIS 

4855
02:59:10,673 --> 02:59:12,942
PHENOMENON IS NOT JUST A 

4856
02:59:12,942 --> 02:59:14,110
PHENOMENON. IT'S THERE'S GOING

4857
02:59:14,110 --> 02:59:15,678
TO BE ASPECTS OF THIS BECAUSE OF

4858
02:59:15,678 --> 02:59:17,079
INFLATION. WHAT'S HAPPENING AT 

4859
02:59:17,079 --> 02:59:18,414
THE FEDERAL LEVEL ACROSS ALL 

4860
02:59:18,414 --> 02:59:19,348
LABOR AGREEMENTS. SO AS WE MOVE 

4861
02:59:19,348 --> 02:59:21,083
OUT IN THE FUTURE, SO THESE 

4862
02:59:21,083 --> 02:59:23,319
ARGUMENTS THAT ARE BEING USED 

4863
02:59:23,319 --> 02:59:24,420
RELATED TO SPD ACTUALLY WILL BE 

4864
02:59:24,420 --> 02:59:26,956
USED, CAN BE USED, COULD BE USED

4865
02:59:26,956 --> 02:59:28,958
ACROSS THE, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE

4866
02:59:28,958 --> 02:59:31,260
EXECUTIVE. AND SO I THINK IT'S 

4867
02:59:31,260 --> 02:59:33,262
IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND 

4868
02:59:33,262 --> 02:59:35,364
AYE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE 

4869
02:59:35,364 --> 02:59:37,066
LABOR RELATIONS WORLD RELATED TO

4870
02:59:37,066 --> 02:59:38,334
THIS AGREEMENT. AND OH, BY THE 

4871
02:59:38,334 --> 02:59:40,236
WAY, RELATED TO INFLATION, 

4872
02:59:40,236 --> 02:59:42,071
DON'T THINK IT'S LIMITED TO 

4873
02:59:42,071 --> 02:59:43,606
SVOG AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE 

4874
02:59:43,606 --> 02:59:46,075
IMPACTS ACROSS THE BOARD IN 

4875
02:59:46,075 --> 02:59:50,279
TERMS OF BUDGETING. I APPRECIATE

4876
02:59:50,279 --> 02:59:50,813
PEOPLE BRINGING UP FIELD 

4877
02:59:50,813 --> 02:59:51,647
TRAINING BECAUSE FIELD TRAINING 

4878
02:59:51,647 --> 02:59:53,582
DOES HAVE CHALLENGES. WE'VE BEEN

4879
02:59:53,582 --> 02:59:56,285
WORKING THAT IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

4880
02:59:56,285 --> 02:59:58,854
WE AS A CITY, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, 

4881
02:59:58,854 --> 03:00:01,357
IN TERMS OF NEW HIRES, WE SHOULD

4882
03:00:01,357 --> 03:00:03,425
NOTE THAT WE HAD 84 NEW HIRES IN

4883
03:00:03,425 --> 03:00:07,763
2024. WE HAD 165 NEW HIRES IN 

4884
03:00:07,763 --> 03:00:12,535
2025. BUT NOW WE HAVE A PLANNED 

4885
03:00:12,535 --> 03:00:14,870
128 NEW HIRES IN 27, AND ONLY 79

4886
03:00:14,870 --> 03:00:17,206
IN 28. WE ARE BELOW GLIDESLOPE 

4887
03:00:17,206 --> 03:00:18,707
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR

4888
03:00:18,707 --> 03:00:19,909
PUBLIC SAFETY POSTURE. WHAT DO 

4889
03:00:19,909 --> 03:00:23,179
WE NEED TO CREATE A SAFER CITY 

4890
03:00:23,179 --> 03:00:26,715
FOR ALL OF US TO CREATE A SAFER 

4891
03:00:26,715 --> 03:00:28,184
SEATTLE? AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO 

4892
03:00:28,184 --> 03:00:29,919
REMEMBER TOO, GIVEN OUR 

4893
03:00:29,919 --> 03:00:32,021
RESPONSIBILITIES, THAT POLICE IS

4894
03:00:32,021 --> 03:00:34,690
A CHARTER RESPONSIBILITY AND 

4895
03:00:34,690 --> 03:00:37,326
THAT THE CURRENT PLAN FROM THE 

4896
03:00:37,326 --> 03:00:38,360
EXECUTIVE AS IT RELATES TO 

4897
03:00:38,360 --> 03:00:41,564
PUBLIC SAFETY. AS I NOTED 

4898
03:00:41,564 --> 03:00:43,632
EARLIER IN MY MIND, CAN BE BEST 

4899
03:00:43,632 --> 03:00:44,300
DESCRIBED AS A HOPE STRATEGY OR,

4900
03:00:44,300 --> 03:00:45,935
YOU KNOW, A WISH STRATEGY 

4901
03:00:45,935 --> 03:00:47,403
BECAUSE IT'S NOT GROUNDED, 

4902
03:00:47,403 --> 03:00:48,504
PARTICULARLY AS WE SEE IN THIS 

4903
03:00:48,504 --> 03:00:51,073
SPD BUDGET AND WHAT'S HAPPENING

4904
03:00:51,073 --> 03:00:52,208
ACROSS THE CITY IN TERMS OF ALL 

4905
03:00:52,208 --> 03:00:53,909
THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES 

4906
03:00:53,909 --> 03:01:00,015
THAT WE'RE FACING SO, YOU KNOW 

4907
03:01:00,015 --> 03:01:02,017
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE HAD 

4908
03:01:02,017 --> 03:01:03,852
ACROSS PUBLIC SAFETY, AND I'LL 

4909
03:01:03,852 --> 03:01:05,821
ADD LIKE UNIFIED CARE TEAM. SO 

4910
03:01:05,821 --> 03:01:06,522
IT'S NOT LIMITED TO LIKE THE 

4911
03:01:06,522 --> 03:01:07,656
COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, THE 

4912
03:01:07,656 --> 03:01:10,059
ENTITIES THAT REPORT TO MY 

4913
03:01:10,059 --> 03:01:13,295
COMMITTEE IS THAT WE ARE TODAY 

4914
03:01:13,295 --> 03:01:15,264
SEEING A UNFUND BUDGET AND IT'S

4915
03:01:15,264 --> 03:01:16,932
IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT IT'S AN 

4916
03:01:16,932 --> 03:01:18,334
UNFUNDED BUDGET WITH RESPECT TO 

4917
03:01:18,334 --> 03:01:20,269
PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IT'S GOING 

4918
03:01:20,269 --> 03:01:21,704
TO HAVE IMPACTS ON US IN THE 

4919
03:01:21,704 --> 03:01:23,105
YEARS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU,

4920
03:01:23,105 --> 03:01:26,308
CHAIR. 

4921
03:01:26,308 --> 03:01:26,876
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

4922
03:01:26,876 --> 03:01:27,476
KETTLE COLLEAGUES, THAT DOES 

4923
03:01:27,476 --> 03:01:28,577
BRING US TO THE CONCLUSION OF 

4924
03:01:28,577 --> 03:01:30,913
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

4925
03:01:30,913 --> 03:01:32,514
CENTRAL STAFF ANALYSIS OF THEIR 

4926
03:01:32,514 --> 03:01:34,149
BUDGET. GREG, SOME OF YOUR BEST 

4927
03:01:34,149 --> 03:01:37,519
WORK YET. YOU'VE TAKEN US ON A 

4928
03:01:37,519 --> 03:01:40,556
THREE HOUR JOURNEY THAT INCLUDED

4929
03:01:40,556 --> 03:01:41,423
AN EARTHQUAKE DRILL. AND ONE OF 

4930
03:01:41,423 --> 03:01:43,259
THE THINGS THAT I'VE FOUND 

4931
03:01:43,259 --> 03:01:44,360
STRUCTURALLY ABOUT HOW WE DO 

4932
03:01:44,360 --> 03:01:45,828
BUDGET IS THAT WE HAVE 

4933
03:01:45,828 --> 03:01:47,496
DEPARTMENTS COME AND SPEAK TO US

4934
03:01:47,496 --> 03:01:49,265
WHEN WE HAVEN'T FULLY DIGESTED 

4935
03:01:49,265 --> 03:01:50,799
THE BUDGET. AND SO OFTENTIMES, 

4936
03:01:50,799 --> 03:01:53,402
LIKE TODAY, YOU GOT A LOT OF 

4937
03:01:53,402 --> 03:01:53,869
TOUGH QUESTIONS FROM 

4938
03:01:53,869 --> 03:01:55,404
COUNCILMEMBERS, EVEN THOUGH 

4939
03:01:55,404 --> 03:01:57,206
IT'S NOT YOUR YOUR DECISION, 

4940
03:01:57,206 --> 03:01:58,274
IT'S JUST YOUR ANALYSIS. AND SO

4941
03:01:58,274 --> 03:01:59,642
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS 

4942
03:01:59,642 --> 03:02:01,677
MOMENT TO APPRECIATE HOW YOU'VE

4943
03:02:01,677 --> 03:02:05,948
BEEN ABLE TO NAVIGATE A PRETTY 

4944
03:02:05,948 --> 03:02:07,616
INTENSE MORNING. NOW THAT IT'S 

4945
03:02:07,616 --> 03:02:09,485
AFTERNOON, COLLEAGUES, I'M GOING

4946
03:02:09,485 --> 03:02:10,653
TO ASK A JUDGMENT QUESTION. WE 

4947
03:02:10,653 --> 03:02:12,621
CAN EITHER COME BACK AT TWO OR 

4948
03:02:12,621 --> 03:02:20,362
WE CAN COME BACK AT 140. TWO, 

4949
03:02:20,362 --> 03:02:22,531
140. 

4950
03:02:22,531 --> 03:02:22,831
-- ONE, 40. 

4951
03:02:22,831 --> 03:02:23,832
-- I'M INDIFFERENT. 

4952
03:02:23,832 --> 03:02:26,101
-- YEAH, I'M INDIFFERENT. 

4953
03:02:26,101 --> 03:02:28,037
-- TWO WE'RE GONNA GO FOR 1:50 

4954
03:02:28,037 --> 03:02:31,273
P.M. A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT IN THE 

4955
03:02:31,273 --> 03:02:33,842
MIDDLE. SO WITH THAT, COUNCIL 

4956
03:02:33,842 --> 03:02:38,213
WILL BE ON RECESS UNTIL 150. 

4957
03:02:38,213 --> 03:02:43,452
1:50 P.M. AND WE WILL START OUR 

4958
03:02:43,452 --> 03:02:43,952
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT 

4959
03:02:43,952 --> 03:02:46,188
PRESENTATION AT EXACTLY 1:51 

4960
03:02:46,188 --> 03:02:48,490
P.M. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. NO 

4961
03:02:48,490 --> 03:02:52,528
OBJECTION. WE ARE IN RECESS. 

4962
03:02:52,528 --> 03:02:52,861
-- EVERYONE. 

4963
03:02:52,861 --> 03:02:59,968
-- [MUSIC] 

