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-- GOOD MORNING. SEPTEMBER 29th,

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2026. SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE 

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MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER. IT 

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IS 9:30 A.M. ON DAN STRAUSS. 

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CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, 

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COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, IS EXCUSED

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UNTIL HE ARRIVES. CLERK WILL YOU

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

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-- PRESENT. 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. 

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COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

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COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER HERE. 

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 

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HOLLINGSWORTH. 

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-- PRESENT. 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ PRESENT.

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COUNCILMEMBER LIN HERE AND CHAIR

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STRAUSS HERE. SIX. PRESENT. 

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-- THANK YOU. ANYONE NOT PRESENT

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IS EXCUSED UNTIL THEY ARRIVE. WE

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ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO TAKE 

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ABOUT A ONE HOUR BREAK TODAY, 

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MUCH LIKE WE DID YESTERDAY. WE 

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WILL SEE HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET 

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THROUGH PRESENTATIONS. THESE ARE

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THE LAST THREE DEPARTMENT 

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PRESENTATIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING

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IN COMMITTEE. THIS IS ALSO THE 

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LAST DAY THAT DIRECTOR ALI WILL 

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BE AT THE COMMITTEE TABLE. SO IF

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YOU HAVE BURNING QUESTIONS TO 

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GET ON THE RECORD, TODAY IS THE 

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DAY. IT'S ALSO A GREAT DAY 

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BECAUSE IT IS THE OPENING OF THE

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PINEHURST LIGHT RAIL STATION 

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THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT EMERITUS 

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FOUGHT VERY HARD TO GET BUILT, 

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AS WE'RE STILL FIGHTING FOR 

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GRAHAM STREET AND FOR BOEING 

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ACCESS FIELD. IT'S A 

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DEMONSTRATION THAT WHEN YOU 

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BUILD IT NOW, IT'S CHEAPER THAN

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SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE. IT'S ALSO

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MY DAD'S 80th BIRTHDAY 

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TOMORROW. HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAD. 

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WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS

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ON THE AGENDA TODAY. OFFICE OF 

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HOUSING SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF 

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CONSTRUCTION, INSPECTION AND 

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OFFICE OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY

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THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE 

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AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING 

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NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS 

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ADOPTED. I'M ALREADY RUNNING A 

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MINUTE LATE WITH THAT CLERK. 

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WILL YOU READ THE TITLE OF THE 

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FIRST ITEM INTO THE RECORD? 

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-- AGENDA ITEM ONE. OFFICE OF 

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HOUSING FOR BRIEFING AND 

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DISCUSSION. 

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-- THANK YOU. WE HAVE DIRECTOR 

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AND WE'VE GOT VICE CHAIR RIVERA

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WITH US AS WELL. WE'VE GOT 

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DIRECTOR KELLY LARSON, BECKY 

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GUERRA OF OFFICE OF HOUSING 

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DIRECTOR ALI PANUCCI. AS USUAL, 

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DIRECTOR LIZ WHITSON, BACK WITH 

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US AT THE COMMITTEE TABLE TODAY.

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I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO 

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YOU AND RUN THROUGH YOUR SLIDES.

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IF THERE ARE NATURAL STOPPING 

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OPEN US UP AND CLOSE US OUT. 

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DIRECTOR. AND WE ARE SO EXCITED 

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CONFIRMATION. WHAT WAS THAT JUST

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-- THERE WE GO. THANK YOU SO 

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MUCH FOR HAVING US. THANK YOU. 

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CHAIR STRAUSS AND 

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COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M KELLY 

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LARSON, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE 

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OF HOUSING. I'LL ASK BECKY TO 

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INTRODUCE HERSELF. 

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-- AND BECKY GARRETT, DIRECTOR 

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OF FINANCE FOR THE OFFICE OF 

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PRESENTATION ON OUR 2027 2028 

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DISCUSSION. IT IS THE VISION OF 

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THE OFFICE OF HOUSING FOR 

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AVAILABILITY. WE EXPERIENCED 

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OUR REGION THROUGH THE LOSS OF 

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LAKE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER AND 

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MONTLAKE. THESE PROJECTS MET KEY

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YEAR. WE HAD REALLY GREAT 

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PRESENTATIONS AND MULTIPLE 

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FOSTER THESE COMMUNITY 

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PROGRESS OF OUR CAPITAL FUNDING 

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FACING HOUSING DOLLARS AND 

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ACTION DASHBOARD WAS LAUNCHED 

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THIS YEAR AND PROVIDES QUARTERLY

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OFFICE OF HOUSING. AS OF THE 

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SECOND QUARTER OF 2026, O HAS 

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OVER $871 MILLION IN ACTION TO 

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BUILD AND PRESERVE OVER 7000 

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AFFORDABLE HOMES, WITH OVER 623 

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MILLION UNDER CONTRACT PROJECTS 

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OVERALL, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING 

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PRIORITIES HAVE REMAINED 

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RELATIVELY CONSISTENT FOR 

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SEVERAL YEARS AS WE WORK TO 

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BUILD NEW AND SUPPORT EXISTING 

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HOUSING, SERVING AS A STEADY AND

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RELIABLE FUNDER OF AFFORDABLE 

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A THOUGHTFUL INVESTMENT PARTNER 

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THROUGH DYNAMIC MARKET 

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CONDITIONS AND READY TO PROVIDE 

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CRITICAL SUPPORT TO THE 

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AFFORDABLE HOUSING SECTOR. UP 

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TOP HERE, PROTECTING AND 

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PRESERVING THE O. FUNDED 

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PORTFOLIO OF 21,000 HOMES 

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REMAINS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST 

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WE ARE WORKING TO STABILIZE 

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ECOSYSTEM. OUR TOP PRIORITY IS 

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TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE 

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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, A PROVEN 

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SOLUTION TO ADDRESS 

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HOMELESSNESS. APPROXIMATELY 30% 

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CONDITIONS AND EXTREMELY LOW 

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INCOMES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 

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COUNTY, STATE AND FEDERAL 

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FUNDERS. SEATTLE SUPPLY OF 

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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND PERMANENT

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HOUSING WITH SERVICES HAS 

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INCREASED STEADILY SINCE 2020. 

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BETWEEN 2020 AND 2025, OVER 1500

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UNITS OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WERE

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PLACED IN SERVICE. OVER 900 

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UNITS OF PERMANENT HOUSING WITH 

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SERVICES WERE PLACED IN SERVICE 

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IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD. A TOTAL

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OF 2400 NEW APARTMENTS FOR 

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PEOPLE EXITING HOMELESSNESS. 

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ALTHOUGH THE COST OF BUILDING 

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LOW INCOME, AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

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AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ARE 

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SIMILAR, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING 

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REQUIRES THAT LONG TERM 

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OPERATING SUBSIDY, WHICH 

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HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN FUNDED BY 

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A COMBINATION OF LOCAL AND 

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FEDERAL FUNDS, INCLUDING THE 

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COC, LARGELY DUE TO THESE 

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CURRENT FEDERAL FUNDING RISKS. 

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WE HAVE INSTALLED SUPPORTIVE 

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HOUSING PIPELINE IN THE CITY FOR

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THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME, 

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WITHOUT FEDERAL FUNDS AND 

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AVAILABLE VOUCHERS, LOCAL 

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FUNDERS WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY 

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SOURCES TO FUND ONGOING SERVICE 

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AND OPERATING COSTS TO BRING NEW

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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ONLINE. THE 

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OFFICE OF HOUSING DID JUST THAT 

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IN THE LAST YEAR, PROVIDING 

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NEARLY ALL THE SERVICE AND 

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OPERATING SUPPORT FOR THREE NEW 

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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS O 

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HAS CONTINUED WORKING CLOSELY 

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WITH COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE CITY 

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AND COUNTY TO PLAN FOR AND 

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MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF 

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POTENTIAL FEDERAL FUNDING 

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REDUCTIONS. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT 

294
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MITIGATION FUNDS WILL BE NEEDED 

295
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IN 2027 TO RESPOND TO FEDERAL 

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CUTS AND PROTECT THE CITY'S 

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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING 

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INFRASTRUCTURE, ENSURING THAT 

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OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS DO

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NOT LOSE THEIR HOMES. SEATTLE IS

301
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PREPARED NEXT LINE MEETING OUR 

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SEATTLE HOUSING LEVY, 

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PRODUCTION, PRESERVATION AND 

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OPERATIONAL GOALS IS A TOP 

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PRIORITY. THE 2023 SEATTLE 

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HOUSING LEVY SPANS A SEVEN YEAR 

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PERIOD FROM 2024 TO 2030, AND WE

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HAVE NEARLY COMPLETED THE THIRD 

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YEAR OF THE LEVY. O AND OUR 

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PARTNERS ARE ON TRACK TO ACHIEVE

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OUR 2023. SEATTLE HOUSING LEVY 

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GOALS. OVER THE FIRST TWO YEARS 

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OF THE LEVY, FROM 2024 TO 2025, 

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WE'VE INVESTED TO BUILD OR 

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PRESERVE OVER 1600 AFFORDABLE 

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RENTAL HOMES, WHICH IS 47% OF 

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OUR GOAL. WE PROVIDED OPERATING,

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MAINTENANCE AND SERVICES SUPPORT

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FOR 712 UNITS, WHICH IS 62% OF 

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OUR GOAL. AND WE HAVE ALSO 

321
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ASSISTED OR INVESTED IN NEW, 

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PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE, FOR SALE

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HOMES FOR 126 HOUSEHOLDS, WHICH 

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IS 34% OF OUR GOAL. WE ALSO HAVE

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LEVY GOALS FOR WEATHERIZATION 

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AND FOR HOMELESSNESS, PREVENTION

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AND HOUSING STABILITY SERVICES. 

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YOU HEARD MORE ABOUT THAT 

329
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YESTERDAY FROM OUR COLLEAGUES IN

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HSD. NOW, JUST TO SHARE A FEW 

331
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM LAST YEAR. IN 

332
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2025, 3 MILLION WAS AWARDED 

333
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THROUGH OUR HOMEOWNERSHIP 

334
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PROGRAM FOR HABITAT'S RIVERBEND

335
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COMUNIDAD IN SOUTH PARK, WHICH 

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WILL PROVIDE 22 HOMES WITH TWO 

337
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BEDROOMS OR MORE. I HAD A CHANCE

338
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TO VISIT THE CONSTRUCTION SITE A

339
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COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITH HABITAT'S

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LEADERSHIP, AND IT WAS INSPIRING

341
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TO SEE THESE NEW HOMES UNDER 

342
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CONSTRUCTION AND TOUR THE 

343
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NEIGHBORHOOD, SEE MULTIPLE OTHER

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HOMEOWNERSHIP INVESTMENTS IN THE

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COMMUNITY NEXT. THERE ARE THREE 

346
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LEVY SUBSIDY AWARDS MADE IN 

347
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2025, INCLUDING AN AWARD TO THE 

348
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FIRST 2023 HOUSING LEVY, 

349
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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT DESCS

350
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BIRCH GROVE THAT OPENED EARLIER 

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THIS YEAR IN LAKE CITY IN 

352
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ADDITION, WE ALSO PROVIDED 

353
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PRELIMINARY COMMITMENTS OF LEVY 

354
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SUBSIDY TO SEVERAL NEW 

355
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AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS WITH

356
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PORTIONS OF THEIR PROJECT 

357
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RESERVED FOR PEOPLE EARNING THE 

358
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LOWEST INCOMES BELOW 30% OF AMI,

359
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INCLUDING THE EXCITING MOUNT 

360
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BAKER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN 

361
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2025, LEVY CAPITAL FUNDS WERE 

362
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INVESTED IN FOUR PROJECTS, 

363
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INCLUDING TWO NEW EXCITING 

364
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DEVELOPMENTS THE LAKE CITY 

365
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COMMUNITY CENTER AND BELLWETHERS

366
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SUNBREAK TOWER NEAR THE 

367
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UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON. WE 

368
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FUNDED ONE PRESERVATION PROJECT 

369
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DESS MORRISON HOTEL JUST DOWN 

370
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THE HILL, AND ONE DEBT 

371
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RESTRUCTURING ACQUISITION GMDS 

372
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WILLOW CROSSING IN HOLLY PARK 

373
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THIS DEBT RESTRUCTURING WAS A 

374
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NEW INVESTMENT CATEGORY IN THE 

375
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25 NOFA, AND IT HELPS BUILDINGS 

376
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AVOID FORECLOSURE, AIMING TO 

377
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RESTORE LONG TERM POSITIVE 

378
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PROPERTY, CASH FLOW, WHICH PAYS 

379
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DOWN THE DEBT ON THESE 

380
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BUILDINGS, ALLOWING THE RENTS TO

381
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BE ADJUSTED TO MORE AFFORDABLE 

382
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LEVELS TO SERVE LOWER INCOME 

383
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HOUSEHOLDS WHILE ALSO ADDRESSING

384
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OPERATING COSTS. WHICH ALSO 

385
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PROVIDES INVESTMENT TO SUPPORT A

386
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STABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

387
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SECTOR AND WORKFORCE. FOR MANY 

388
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DECADES, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING 

389
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PROVIDED A MINIMAL BUT 

390
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CONSISTENT OPERATING SUBSIDY 

391
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FROM THE SEATTLE HOUSING LEVY. 

392
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IN RECENT YEARS, AND WITH THE 

393
00:12:17,803 --> 00:12:19,538
2023 HOUSING LEVY, WHICH 

394
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SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED 

395
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INVESTMENTS IN OPERATIONS 

396
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INCLUDING OMS FOR SUPPORTIVE 

397
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HOUSING, WORKFORCE STABILIZATION

398
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TO INCREASE STAFF WAGES AND 

399
00:12:28,013 --> 00:12:30,182
WORKER RETENTION IN SUPPORTIVE 

400
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HOUSING AND RESIDENT SERVICES 

401
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FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TENANTS 

402
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IN NEED OF SUPPORT O H ALSO 

403
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RESPONDED TO SECTOR CHALLENGES 

404
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BY PROVIDING URGENT OPERATING 

405
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SUPPORTS IN THE FORM OF FLEXIBLE

406
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GRANTS TO OUR HOUSING PARTNERS 

407
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TO FILL THE MOST CRITICAL 

408
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OPERATING GAPS. FINALLY, AS O. H

409
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HAS DONE FOR MANY YEARS, WE WILL

410
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CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE COMMUNITY

411
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DRIVEN PROJECTS AND IDENTIFY 

412
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PATHWAYS FOR NEW ORGANIZATIONS 

413
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TO SECURE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE 

414
00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:03,282
NEEDED AND MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD

415
00:13:03,282 --> 00:13:05,784
FROM THE IDEA TO REALITY. OUR 

416
00:13:05,784 --> 00:13:06,418
TEAM HAS PROVIDED DEEP 

417
00:13:06,418 --> 00:13:08,921
INVESTMENT CONSULTATION AND 

418
00:13:08,921 --> 00:13:11,524
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO NUMEROUS

419
00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:13,726
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO

420
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SUPPORT INNOVATIVE HOUSING AND 

421
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,495
COMMUNITY PROJECTS SUCH AS EL 

422
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CENTRO'S, ROBERTO MAESTAS PLAZA

423
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AND CHIEF SEATTLE CLUBS. ALL. 

424
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ALL THIS COMMITMENT TO EQUITY IN

425
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OA INVESTMENTS AND POLICY WILL 

426
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REMAIN CONSISTENT. IT'S CRITICAL

427
00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:29,742
THAT INVESTMENTS ARE TARGETED 

428
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TOWARD THE MOST READY AND 

429
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FEASIBLE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY 

430
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GIVEN CHALLENGING LEVERAGE AND 

431
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INVESTOR DYNAMICS AND O. H WILL 

432
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HOLD EQUITY AT THE CENTER OF OUR

433
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DECISION MAKING PROCESS. I WANT 

434
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TO, BECKY. 

435
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-- THANK YOU THE OFFICE OF 

436
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HOUSING MAINTAINS STRONG HOUSING

437
00:13:48,561 --> 00:13:51,096
INVESTMENTS IN THE 2728 

438
00:13:51,096 --> 00:13:52,998
BIENNIUM. HOWEVER, CHANGES IN 

439
00:13:52,998 --> 00:13:55,835
THE 2026 YEAR END SUPPLEMENTAL 

440
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WILL IMPACT THE BUDGET. AS WE 

441
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WILL DISCUSS ON SUBSEQUENT 

442
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SLIDES AS SHOWN IN THE CHART, OA

443
00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,042
DOES NOT RECEIVE ANY GENERAL 

444
00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:05,544
FUND. THE TWO LARGEST FUND 

445
00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:06,812
SOURCES FOR THE OFFICE OF 

446
00:14:06,812 --> 00:14:08,347
HOUSING ARE THE HOUSING LEVY AND

447
00:14:08,347 --> 00:14:10,583
THE JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE 

448
00:14:10,583 --> 00:14:14,820
TAX. THE HOUSING LEVY IS VOTER 

449
00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:15,321
APPROVED AND REMAINS A 

450
00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:17,289
CONSISTENT, RELIABLE FOUNDATION 

451
00:14:17,289 --> 00:14:20,960
FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 

452
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,560
SEATTLE, PROVIDING OVER $138 

453
00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,661
MILLION IN EACH YEAR OF THE 

454
00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:26,265
BIENNIUM GIVEN CURRENT REVENUE 

455
00:14:26,265 --> 00:14:28,901
FORECASTS, MAYOR WILSON IS 

456
00:14:28,901 --> 00:14:32,338
PROPOSING 140 MILLION FOR 2027 

457
00:14:32,338 --> 00:14:35,207
AND 139 MILLION FOR 2028 OF 

458
00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:37,042
JUMPSTART PET REVENUE TO SUPPORT

459
00:14:37,042 --> 00:14:40,846
OFFICE OF HOUSING PROGRAMS. THIS

460
00:14:40,846 --> 00:14:41,413
SUSTAINS STEADY, AFFORDABLE 

461
00:14:41,413 --> 00:14:43,282
HOUSING INVESTMENTS FOR THE 

462
00:14:43,282 --> 00:14:45,718
BIENNIUM. THIS COMMITMENT TO 

463
00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:48,020
AFFORDABLE HOUSING REPRESENTS 

464
00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:50,556
OVER 30% OF TOTAL ANNUAL 

465
00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:54,126
JUMPSTART PET REVENUE WHEREAS 

466
00:14:54,126 --> 00:14:55,594
HOUSING LEVY FUNDING IS GUIDED 

467
00:14:55,594 --> 00:14:58,163
BY THE HOUSING LEVY GOALS. 

468
00:14:58,163 --> 00:14:59,431
JUMPSTART PET FUNDING IS 

469
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FLEXIBLE AND HAS BEEN USED TO 

470
00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:03,669
RESPOND QUICKLY TO EMERGENT 

471
00:15:03,669 --> 00:15:06,505
ISSUES IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

472
00:15:06,505 --> 00:15:08,540
SECTOR. FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS USED

473
00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:09,742
TO LAUNCH THE PSH WORKFORCE 

474
00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:11,844
STABILIZATION EFFORT AND TO 

475
00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:14,046
PROVIDE URGENT OPERATING SUPPORT

476
00:15:14,046 --> 00:15:16,315
TO PROVIDERS WHEN NEEDED. IT HAS

477
00:15:16,315 --> 00:15:18,150
ALSO BEEN USED TO SUPPLEMENT 

478
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LEVY FUNDING TO SUPPORT 

479
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AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION 

480
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AND PRESERVATION. TO ENSURE 

481
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PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED AMIDST 

482
00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:28,093
INCREASES IN CONSTRUCTION 

483
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MATERIALS, INTEREST AND 

484
00:15:30,262 --> 00:15:33,132
INSURANCE PREMIUMS JUMPSTART PET

485
00:15:33,132 --> 00:15:34,700
FUNDING HAS ALSO BEEN USED TO 

486
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SECURE LONG TERM SERVICE AND 

487
00:15:36,869 --> 00:15:39,071
OPERATING CONTRACTS, AND TO 

488
00:15:39,071 --> 00:15:42,708
CREATE A MITIGATION FUND FOR 

489
00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:46,312
POTENTIAL CONTINUUM OF CARE CUTS

490
00:15:46,312 --> 00:15:48,080
THE MHA PORTION REPRESENTS FEES 

491
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,883
THAT OA RECEIVES FROM PROJECTS 

492
00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:52,951
THAT SELECT PAYMENT INSTEAD OF 

493
00:15:52,951 --> 00:15:56,188
PERFORMANCE TO COMPLY WITH MHA. 

494
00:15:56,188 --> 00:15:58,390
FOR MHA, OA AND CBO HAVE MADE 

495
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THE DECISION TO HOLD THESE 

496
00:16:00,859 --> 00:16:02,828
REVENUE EXPECTATIONS STEADY 

497
00:16:02,828 --> 00:16:03,329
WHILE KNOWING THERE ARE 

498
00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:06,465
SIGNIFICANT VARIABLES CURRENTLY 

499
00:16:06,465 --> 00:16:07,833
AT WORK WITH MHA, THE AMOUNT 

500
00:16:07,833 --> 00:16:11,804
AWARDED EACH YEAR IS BASED ON 

501
00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:13,706
ACTUAL FUNDS RECEIVED, NOT THE 

502
00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:15,474
AMOUNT BUDGETED. SO IF THIS 

503
00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:16,975
ACTUALS NUMBER IS HIGHER OR 

504
00:16:16,975 --> 00:16:19,645
LOWER THAN WHAT IS BUDGETED IN 

505
00:16:19,645 --> 00:16:21,814
2027, OUR 27 NOFA WILL REFLECT 

506
00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:26,985
THAT ACTUAL AMOUNT. OTHER FUNDS 

507
00:16:26,985 --> 00:16:29,221
HERE REPRESENTS FEDERAL, STATE, 

508
00:16:29,221 --> 00:16:31,390
AND LOCAL GRANTS, AS WELL AS 

509
00:16:31,390 --> 00:16:33,959
PROGRAM INCOME, INTEREST INCOME,

510
00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:35,995
AND MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES. 

511
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:39,331
ALSO, AS SHOWN, THERE ARE NO 

512
00:16:39,331 --> 00:16:40,799
POSITION CHANGES IN THE PROPOSED

513
00:16:40,799 --> 00:16:42,568
BUDGET. WE REMAIN STEADY AT 69 

514
00:16:42,568 --> 00:16:49,742
FTE THE NEXT SLIDE HERE SHOWS 

515
00:16:49,742 --> 00:16:53,912
HOW THE 2027 TO 28 PROPOSED 

516
00:16:53,912 --> 00:16:55,781
BUDGET WILL BE SPENT BY THE 

517
00:16:55,781 --> 00:16:56,415
PRIMARY PROGRAMS OF THE OFFICE 

518
00:16:56,415 --> 00:17:00,452
OF HOUSING ACROSS ALL FUNDING 

519
00:17:00,452 --> 00:17:03,555
SOURCES. MULTIFAMILY CAPITAL 

520
00:17:03,555 --> 00:17:06,625
PROPOSED SPENDING IN 2027 IS 235

521
00:17:06,625 --> 00:17:07,893
MILLION. THIS IS FOR THE 

522
00:17:07,893 --> 00:17:11,096
DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION OF 

523
00:17:11,096 --> 00:17:13,132
MULTIFAMILY RENTAL HOUSING AND 

524
00:17:13,132 --> 00:17:15,401
THE LONG TERM STEWARDSHIP AND 

525
00:17:15,401 --> 00:17:17,803
MONITORING OF HOUSING IN OHA'S 

526
00:17:17,803 --> 00:17:19,805
PORTFOLIO. THIS INCLUDES NEW 

527
00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:22,908
CAPITAL PRODUCTION, 

528
00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:23,375
REHABILITATION, DEBT 

529
00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:25,978
RESTRUCTURING AND ACQUISITION, 

530
00:17:25,978 --> 00:17:27,246
DEBT RESTRUCTURING WAS A NEW 

531
00:17:27,246 --> 00:17:30,783
CATEGORY IN THE 2025 ANNUAL 

532
00:17:30,783 --> 00:17:33,218
NOFA. SPECIFICALLY FOR 

533
00:17:33,218 --> 00:17:33,719
PROPERTIES EXPERIENCING 

534
00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:35,888
SIGNIFICANT PERFORMANCE 

535
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:38,257
CHALLENGES. THIS FUNDING HELPED 

536
00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:38,891
NINE BUILDINGS AVOID FORECLOSURE

537
00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:40,926
AND RESTORED LONG TERM POSITIVE 

538
00:17:40,926 --> 00:17:43,262
PROPERTY CASH FLOW, WHICH PAID 

539
00:17:43,262 --> 00:17:44,897
DOWN THE DEBT ON THOSE 

540
00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:45,931
BUILDINGS, WHICH ALLOWED THE 

541
00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:48,133
RENTS TO BE ADJUSTED DOWN TO 

542
00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:49,968
MORE AFFORDABLE LEVELS THAT 

543
00:17:49,968 --> 00:17:52,805
WOULD SERVE LOWER INCOME 

544
00:17:52,805 --> 00:17:55,507
HOUSEHOLDS. O ALSO UNDERWROTE TO

545
00:17:55,507 --> 00:17:57,042
RIGHTSIZE OPERATING COSTS TO 

546
00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:58,510
REFLECT THE CURRENT COST, 

547
00:17:58,510 --> 00:18:02,181
ENVIRONMENT AND REPLENISH 

548
00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:04,383
BUILDING RESERVES. THE AGENCY 

549
00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:07,119
SUPPORTS. PROPOSED SPENDING IS 

550
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,522
61.4 MILLION. THIS REPRESENTS 

551
00:18:10,522 --> 00:18:12,057
SERVICES AND OPERATING SUPPORT 

552
00:18:12,057 --> 00:18:13,559
FOR O FUNDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

553
00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,260
PROPERTIES AND FOR THE AGENCIES 

554
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:17,062
THAT OWN AND OPERATE THE 

555
00:18:17,062 --> 00:18:19,498
BUILDINGS. THIS INCLUDES 

556
00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:21,733
OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE 

557
00:18:21,733 --> 00:18:26,238
SUBSIDIES, RESIDENT SERVICES AND

558
00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:26,772
WORKFORCE STABILIZATION. 

559
00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:30,309
HOMEOWNERSHIP CAPITAL PROPOSED 

560
00:18:30,309 --> 00:18:32,578
SPENDING IS 13.6 MILLION. THIS 

561
00:18:32,578 --> 00:18:33,212
REPRESENTS DEVELOPMENT SUBSIDIES

562
00:18:33,212 --> 00:18:35,280
AND LOANS TO CREATE PERMANENTLY 

563
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,716
AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR LOW INCOME 

564
00:18:37,716 --> 00:18:41,420
HOMEOWNERS WEATHERIZATION AND 

565
00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:43,922
HOME REPAIR CAPITAL. PROPOSED 

566
00:18:43,922 --> 00:18:45,624
SPENDING IS 8.8 MILLION. THE 

567
00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:49,428
WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM FOCUSES 

568
00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:50,996
ON ENERGY CONSERVATION, INDOOR 

569
00:18:50,996 --> 00:18:53,232
AIR QUALITY AND REDUCING UTILITY

570
00:18:53,232 --> 00:18:55,067
COSTS FOR RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS

571
00:18:55,067 --> 00:18:57,202
WITH LOW INCOMES. THE HOME 

572
00:18:57,202 --> 00:18:59,271
REPAIR PROGRAM ASSISTS 

573
00:18:59,271 --> 00:19:00,739
HOMEOWNERS AT OR BELOW 80% AMI 

574
00:19:00,739 --> 00:19:02,774
WITH CRITICAL HEALTH AND SAFETY 

575
00:19:02,774 --> 00:19:05,043
REPAIRS TO PRESERVE THEIR HOMES.

576
00:19:05,043 --> 00:19:07,713
THESE PROGRAMS OPERATE THROUGH 

577
00:19:07,713 --> 00:19:09,548
STATE GRANTS, FEDERAL GRANTS, 

578
00:19:09,548 --> 00:19:11,483
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT SUPPORT, AND 

579
00:19:11,483 --> 00:19:14,520
THE JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE 

580
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,522
TAX. THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 

581
00:19:16,522 --> 00:19:18,891
ADMINISTRATION IS 19.4 MILLION. 

582
00:19:18,891 --> 00:19:21,293
THIS INCLUDES ALL COSTS RELATED 

583
00:19:21,293 --> 00:19:24,263
TO PROGRAMMATIC STAFFING, 

584
00:19:24,263 --> 00:19:26,999
LEADERSHIP, PLANNING AND POLICY 

585
00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:29,468
CONTRACTING PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT,

586
00:19:29,468 --> 00:19:31,370
FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, 

587
00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:34,740
COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION 

588
00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:37,142
TECHNOLOGY, CITY CENTRAL COSTS, 

589
00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:40,312
ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT AND 

590
00:19:40,312 --> 00:19:41,847
OPERATING EXPENSES. THE LAST 

591
00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:44,550
LINE HERE IS RENTAL ASSISTANCE 

592
00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:46,018
THROUGH HSD. O GIVES FUNDING TO 

593
00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:48,954
OUR PARTNERS AT HSD TO 

594
00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:51,089
ADMINISTER RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR

595
00:19:51,089 --> 00:19:51,723
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING OR AT RISK 

596
00:19:51,723 --> 00:19:54,293
OF EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. 

597
00:19:54,293 --> 00:19:56,194
THE 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 

598
00:19:56,194 --> 00:20:00,799
THIS IS 9.4 MILLION. THIS IS 

599
00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:01,867
FUNDED BY THE 2023 HOUSING LEVY 

600
00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:07,272
AND BY INTEREST EARNINGS ON OSE 

601
00:20:07,272 --> 00:20:11,076
FUND BALANCE. THERE WERE NO 

602
00:20:11,076 --> 00:20:13,145
SIGNIFICANT POLICY CHANGES 

603
00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:17,349
REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET

604
00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:20,385
FROM 2026 TO 20 27. 28 TECHNICAL

605
00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:21,019
ADJUSTMENTS INCLUDE THE REMOVAL 

606
00:20:21,019 --> 00:20:25,390
OF ONE TIME 2026 ITEMS, UPDATING

607
00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:27,459
INTEREST, EARNINGS PROJECTIONS 

608
00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:30,429
THAT FUND HSD RENTAL ASSISTANCE,

609
00:20:30,429 --> 00:20:32,864
WORK AND ALIGNMENT WITH VARIOUS 

610
00:20:32,864 --> 00:20:33,365
GRANTS AND CENTRAL COST 

611
00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:39,171
ADJUSTMENTS THE NEXT SLIDE, THE 

612
00:20:39,171 --> 00:20:41,740
2026 YEAR END SUPPLEMENTAL 

613
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,875
BUDGET ORDINANCE MAKES A ONE 

614
00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:46,345
TIME REDUCTION OF $65 MILLION OF

615
00:20:46,345 --> 00:20:49,581
O FUND BALANCE IN THE JUMPSTART 

616
00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:52,050
PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX FUND. THIS 

617
00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:54,853
PRESERVES THE AMOUNT OF 

618
00:20:54,853 --> 00:20:57,055
JUMPSTART FUNDS IN O 27 AND 28 

619
00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,691
PROPOSED BUDGET AND FUTURE 

620
00:20:59,691 --> 00:21:01,760
BUDGETS TO SUPPORT THIS 

621
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,462
REALLOCATION, O WILL PURSUE 

622
00:21:03,462 --> 00:21:05,897
MULTIPLE STRATEGIES FOR 

623
00:21:05,897 --> 00:21:08,100
MANAGING. O MULTIFAMILY RENTAL 

624
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,370
FUNDS DEDICATED TO NEW CAPITAL 

625
00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:11,937
PROJECTS, INCLUDING FORWARD 

626
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:13,839
COMMITMENTS OF FUTURE YEAR 

627
00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:16,475
JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX. O

628
00:21:16,475 --> 00:21:18,777
IS IDENTIFYING ALL POSSIBLE 

629
00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:21,613
ACTIONS TO MANAGE THE $65 

630
00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:24,316
MILLION REDUCTION OUR OFFICE, IN

631
00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:27,019
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MAYOR, IS 

632
00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:30,522
PRIORITIZING STEADY AND ONGOING 

633
00:21:30,522 --> 00:21:31,123
INVESTMENTS IN ANNUAL HOUSING 

634
00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,258
OPERATIONS, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE

635
00:21:33,258 --> 00:21:36,628
HOUSING, HOME OWNERSHIP, 

636
00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:39,131
WEATHERIZATION, HOME REPAIR AND 

637
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:42,167
STAFFING. OUR HOUSING LEVY AWARD

638
00:21:42,167 --> 00:21:43,802
COMMITMENTS REMAIN UNCHANGED AND

639
00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:45,604
NO CURRENT PROJECTS ARE BEING 

640
00:21:45,604 --> 00:21:48,106
AFFECTED. THE CITY WILL CONTINUE

641
00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:48,807
TO FULFILL ITS COMMITMENTS TO 

642
00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:51,510
AWARDED PROJECTS USING A 

643
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:52,978
DIFFERENT SOURCE OR YEAR OF 

644
00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:56,214
FUNDING WHERE NECESSARY. 

645
00:21:56,214 --> 00:21:58,850
OPERATING CONTRACTS AND CAPITAL 

646
00:21:58,850 --> 00:22:00,686
PROJECTS UNDERWAY WILL ALSO NOT 

647
00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:03,355
BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THESE 

648
00:22:03,355 --> 00:22:03,989
CHANGES. WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO 

649
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:06,825
ENSURING EXISTING PROJECTS ARE 

650
00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:08,860
PRESERVED. OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS 

651
00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:12,698
TO BE A STEADY AND RELIABLE 

652
00:22:12,698 --> 00:22:15,767
ANCHOR IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

653
00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:16,335
ECOSYSTEM TO MEET EXISTING 

654
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:17,903
OBLIGATIONS AND TO FUND NEW 

655
00:22:17,903 --> 00:22:19,237
PROJECTS TO MEET SEATTLE'S 

656
00:22:19,237 --> 00:22:27,446
HOUSING NEEDS. THANK YOU. 

657
00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:27,913
-- THAT CONCLUDES OUR 

658
00:22:27,913 --> 00:22:28,814
PRESENTATION. 

659
00:22:28,814 --> 00:22:29,414
-- THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. THANK 

660
00:22:29,414 --> 00:22:32,050
YOU VERY MUCH. DIRECTOR NISHI, 

661
00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:33,852
ANYTHING TO ADD? DIRECTOR 

662
00:22:33,852 --> 00:22:35,987
WHITSON? NOTHING. NO. WONDERFUL.

663
00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:37,055
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER IS CHAIR OF

664
00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:37,656
THE COMMITTEE OVERSEEING THE 

665
00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:38,790
DEPARTMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. 

666
00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:40,292
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIR 

667
00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:41,460
STRAUSS. GOOD MORNING AND THANK 

668
00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:42,894
YOU SO MUCH. DIRECTOR PANUCCI, 

669
00:22:42,894 --> 00:22:44,696
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, DIRECTOR 

670
00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:45,864
LARSON, SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU 

671
00:22:45,864 --> 00:22:48,667
HERE. I WILL JUST START OFF, I 

672
00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:49,501
DON'T WANT TO DO A TON OF 

673
00:22:49,501 --> 00:22:50,569
REMARKS, BUT I WILL JUST SAY 

674
00:22:50,569 --> 00:22:52,838
VERY BRIEFLY, MY APPRECIATION 

675
00:22:52,838 --> 00:22:54,106
FOR THE LEADERSHIP COMING FROM 

676
00:22:54,106 --> 00:22:57,309
YOUR OFFICE IN TERMS OF THE WAY 

677
00:22:57,309 --> 00:22:59,010
THAT YOU HAVE BEEN RESPONDING TO

678
00:22:59,010 --> 00:22:59,644
THE ONGOING NEEDS, PARTICULARLY 

679
00:22:59,644 --> 00:23:01,947
WHEN IT COMES TO INCREASED COSTS

680
00:23:01,947 --> 00:23:04,649
FOR OPERATING AND THE 

681
00:23:04,649 --> 00:23:06,251
THOUGHTFULNESS AND THE 

682
00:23:06,251 --> 00:23:07,719
DEDICATION THAT I THINK O HAS 

683
00:23:07,719 --> 00:23:09,855
HAD TO BE RESPONSIVE TO WHAT'S 

684
00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:10,489
HAPPENING IN THE SECTOR. SO I 

685
00:23:10,489 --> 00:23:11,156
FIRST JUST WANT TO START OFF 

686
00:23:11,156 --> 00:23:13,358
WITH A NOTE OF APPRECIATION FOR 

687
00:23:13,358 --> 00:23:15,527
THAT WORK. I THINK YOU WENT OVER

688
00:23:15,527 --> 00:23:16,661
THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF IT, BUT

689
00:23:16,661 --> 00:23:19,297
I DO THINK IT JUST DESERVES 

690
00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:20,665
UPLIFTING, AS ONE OF MY 

691
00:23:20,665 --> 00:23:22,234
COLLEAGUES WOULD WOULD SAY. AND,

692
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,902
AND WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO

693
00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:25,670
FOR MY FIRST QUESTION HERE IS TO

694
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:27,272
JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE 

695
00:23:27,272 --> 00:23:28,406
BROADLY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE

696
00:23:28,406 --> 00:23:31,276
DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE IN TERMS 

697
00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:32,344
OF THE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE 

698
00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:34,112
SECTOR, NOT JUST HERE IN 

699
00:23:34,112 --> 00:23:35,747
SEATTLE, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

700
00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:37,849
WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE 

701
00:23:37,849 --> 00:23:40,619
CHALLENGES THAT PROVIDERS ARE 

702
00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:41,520
FACING AROUND OPERATING COSTS. 

703
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,521
TO PUT A SLIGHTLY FINER POINT ON

704
00:23:42,521 --> 00:23:43,755
IT, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS 

705
00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:45,223
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS HOW WE'RE

706
00:23:45,223 --> 00:23:46,992
NOT UNIQUE IN THESE CHALLENGES, 

707
00:23:46,992 --> 00:23:48,560
BUT MAYBE WE ARE UNIQUE IN OUR 

708
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,596
OUR RESPONSE TO THEM IN TERMS OF

709
00:23:51,596 --> 00:23:52,330
ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO HAVE A 

710
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:54,599
LITTLE BIT MORE SUCCESS THAN 

711
00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:56,668
SOME OTHER REGIONS 

712
00:23:56,668 --> 00:24:01,373
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR FOSTER. WE 

713
00:24:01,373 --> 00:24:03,575
WERE JUST ON A CALL YESTERDAY 

714
00:24:03,575 --> 00:24:04,810
WITH OUR COLLEAGUES FROM THE 

715
00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:06,778
ENTERPRISE HIGH COST HOUSING 

716
00:24:06,778 --> 00:24:08,446
FORUM, WHICH BRINGS TOGETHER 

717
00:24:08,446 --> 00:24:09,548
HOUSING LEADERS FROM MANY CITIES

718
00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,049
THAT ARE FACING SOME OF THESE 

719
00:24:11,049 --> 00:24:12,851
SAME CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE 

720
00:24:12,851 --> 00:24:14,786
FACING. AND ONE OF THE MAJOR 

721
00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:16,755
CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR

722
00:24:16,755 --> 00:24:17,923
ATTENTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO 

723
00:24:17,923 --> 00:24:19,424
WAS THE COLLAPSE OF THE SKID ROW

724
00:24:19,424 --> 00:24:22,561
HOUSING TRUST IN LOS ANGELES. 

725
00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:23,995
THAT WAS A MAJOR TURNING POINT 

726
00:24:23,995 --> 00:24:26,765
IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

727
00:24:26,765 --> 00:24:27,966
SECTOR. THAT CHANGED THE WAY 

728
00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,501
MANY OF US WERE THINKING ABOUT 

729
00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:31,002
OUR PORTFOLIOS, OUR INVESTMENTS,

730
00:24:31,002 --> 00:24:32,571
THE WAY WE WERE MANAGING OUR 

731
00:24:32,571 --> 00:24:35,640
ASSETS AND MONITORING OUR 

732
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,175
HOUSING. WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF

733
00:24:37,175 --> 00:24:40,512
CHANGES SINCE THEN, AND WE'VE 

734
00:24:40,512 --> 00:24:43,448
MADE INVESTMENTS TO TO BRING 

735
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:44,850
INTO OUR PORTFOLIO TO RESPOND TO

736
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:46,885
SOME OF THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES

737
00:24:46,885 --> 00:24:49,187
THAT OUR PARTICULAR MARKET IS 

738
00:24:49,187 --> 00:24:51,323
FACING DUE TO THE UNIQUE SUPPLY 

739
00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:55,193
THAT HAS COME ONLINE THIS 

740
00:24:55,193 --> 00:24:58,230
CONVERGENCE OF AFFORDABILITY AND

741
00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:01,099
MARKET AVERAGE RENTS AT THAT 60%

742
00:25:01,099 --> 00:25:03,668
AMI LEVEL, PARTICULARLY FOR 

743
00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:05,937
SMALLER UNITS, AS WELL AS 

744
00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:07,272
INCREASING OPERATING COSTS THAT 

745
00:25:07,272 --> 00:25:10,208
EVERYONE IS FACING. INCREASING 

746
00:25:10,208 --> 00:25:12,944
INSURANCE, INCREASING PERSONNEL,

747
00:25:12,944 --> 00:25:14,446
HEALTH CARE BENEFITS IS A BIG 

748
00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:16,281
COST DRIVER THAT A LOT OF OUR 

749
00:25:16,281 --> 00:25:17,782
ORGANIZATIONS ARE FACING. IT'S 

750
00:25:17,782 --> 00:25:19,184
REALLY, REALLY SIGNIFICANT. SO 

751
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:21,486
WE'RE JUST SEEING A LOT OF 

752
00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:22,921
THESE COSTS INCREASE. AND 

753
00:25:22,921 --> 00:25:24,522
BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE SITUATION 

754
00:25:24,522 --> 00:25:26,992
THAT WE ARE FACING HERE, WHERE 

755
00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:28,126
WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON UNIT 

756
00:25:28,126 --> 00:25:29,794
PRODUCTION, WHICH IS A VERY 

757
00:25:29,794 --> 00:25:33,465
LOFTY GOAL, AND IT'S A STRONG 

758
00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:34,766
AREA OF FOCUS. IT MAKES A LOT OF

759
00:25:34,766 --> 00:25:37,402
SENSE. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT GAP

760
00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:38,703
IN IN WHAT WE NEED FOR 

761
00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:41,006
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR CITY, 

762
00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:43,909
AND WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON 

763
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:45,477
BUILDING MORE APARTMENTS OVER 

764
00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:47,178
TIME. THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, 

765
00:25:47,178 --> 00:25:49,180
RENT LIMITS THAT WE WERE 

766
00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:50,649
ESTABLISHING FOR MANY OF THOSE 

767
00:25:50,649 --> 00:25:52,584
APARTMENTS GREW OUT OF STEP, AND

768
00:25:52,584 --> 00:25:54,819
THAT REQUIRED US TO RECONSIDER 

769
00:25:54,819 --> 00:25:55,787
OUR INVESTMENTS AND HOW WE COULD

770
00:25:55,787 --> 00:26:02,027
COME IN AND SUPPORT 

771
00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:02,661
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE FACING A

772
00:26:02,661 --> 00:26:03,295
SITUATION WHERE EITHER THEY ARE 

773
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:04,129
BEARING A BURDEN IN ORDER TO 

774
00:26:04,129 --> 00:26:04,696
SUPPORT TENANTS BELOW THAT 

775
00:26:04,696 --> 00:26:05,764
CANNOT MEET THE RENTS THAT 

776
00:26:05,764 --> 00:26:09,100
THEY'RE EXPECTING TO CHARGE, OR

777
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:10,902
THE THE RENTERS ARE BEARING THE 

778
00:26:10,902 --> 00:26:12,370
BURDEN BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BEAR 

779
00:26:12,370 --> 00:26:13,438
THOSE RENTS THAT WE ARE CHARGING

780
00:26:13,438 --> 00:26:16,141
IN SOME OF OUR AFFORDABLE 

781
00:26:16,141 --> 00:26:17,075
HOUSING PROJECTS, PROBABLY A 

782
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:18,476
COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE 

783
00:26:18,476 --> 00:26:20,211
THINGS IS HAPPENING IN MOST 

784
00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:23,114
PLACES. IN ORDER TO BRING 

785
00:26:23,114 --> 00:26:27,152
SUPPORT, WE HAVE TRIED SEVERAL 

786
00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:28,620
INVESTMENT TOOLS. ONE WAS A 

787
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,055
MAJOR INVESTMENT OF URGENT 

788
00:26:30,055 --> 00:26:31,523
OPERATING SUPPORT. SO ABOUT $40 

789
00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:34,192
MILLION OF URGENT OPERATING 

790
00:26:34,192 --> 00:26:35,293
STABILIZATION WAS ADDED TO OUR 

791
00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:37,562
PORTFOLIO OVER THE LAST TWO 

792
00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:39,798
YEARS. THIS INCLUDED A PORTION 

793
00:26:39,798 --> 00:26:42,334
SET ASIDE FOR PORTFOLIO 

794
00:26:42,334 --> 00:26:43,301
PRESERVATION PLANNING. AND THAT 

795
00:26:43,301 --> 00:26:44,836
EFFORT IS REALLY NOW JUST 

796
00:26:44,836 --> 00:26:48,173
KICKING OFF. WE'VE SELECTED 

797
00:26:48,173 --> 00:26:48,807
SOME PROVIDERS TO ENGAGE IN THAT

798
00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:49,774
EFFORT. WE'VE SELECTED 

799
00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:50,842
CONSULTANTS TO PAIR THEM WITH. 

800
00:26:50,842 --> 00:26:52,811
THEY WILL BEGIN A YEAR LONG 

801
00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:54,412
PROCESS OF REALLY DIVING DEEP 

802
00:26:54,412 --> 00:26:56,381
INTO THEIR PORTFOLIOS, THEIR 

803
00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:58,116
SPECIFIC NEEDS, AND LOOKING AT 

804
00:26:58,116 --> 00:26:59,451
HOW THEY CAN RECOMMEND AND 

805
00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:02,087
INFORM SOME OF OUR STRATEGIES 

806
00:27:02,087 --> 00:27:04,255
GOING FORWARD. WE HAVE ALSO 

807
00:27:04,255 --> 00:27:06,758
TESTED THIS NEW CAPITAL STRATEGY

808
00:27:06,758 --> 00:27:08,126
DEBT RESTRUCTURING THAT HAS 

809
00:27:08,126 --> 00:27:09,761
REALLY COME IN TO SUPPORT SOME 

810
00:27:09,761 --> 00:27:10,895
OF THESE PROJECTS THAT I 

811
00:27:10,895 --> 00:27:13,198
MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'VE 

812
00:27:13,198 --> 00:27:15,300
FUNDED MORE RECENTLY, OFTEN HAVE

813
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,302
A HIGHER PROPORTION OF 60% AMI 

814
00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:19,104
STUDIOS AND HAVE THIS 

815
00:27:19,104 --> 00:27:21,072
DIFFERENTIAL AND THIS PROBLEM 

816
00:27:21,072 --> 00:27:22,774
WITH THE RENT EXPECTATIONS AND 

817
00:27:22,774 --> 00:27:24,509
THE TENANTS WHO ARE LIVING 

818
00:27:24,509 --> 00:27:26,211
THERE. SO THE DEBT RESTRUCTURING

819
00:27:26,211 --> 00:27:28,146
ALLOWS US TO BUY DOWN THOSE 

820
00:27:28,146 --> 00:27:29,647
RENTS AND PAY OFF PRIVATE DEBT 

821
00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:32,717
TO PROVIDE SOME MORE CUSHION FOR

822
00:27:32,717 --> 00:27:38,123
THOSE OPERATORS. AND IT HELPS IN

823
00:27:38,123 --> 00:27:39,724
A BROADER PORTFOLIO FOR A 

824
00:27:39,724 --> 00:27:41,292
PROVIDER, PARTICULARLY, WE 

825
00:27:41,292 --> 00:27:42,293
INVESTED IN SOME BELLWETHER 

826
00:27:42,293 --> 00:27:43,595
PROJECTS. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE 

827
00:27:43,595 --> 00:27:45,597
ONE OF OUR LARGEST PROVIDERS IN 

828
00:27:45,597 --> 00:27:48,033
THE CITY. AND WHEN BELLWETHER 

829
00:27:48,033 --> 00:27:50,802
HAS SEVERAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE 

830
00:27:50,802 --> 00:27:52,137
NEGATIVE CASH FLOW THAT DRAGS 

831
00:27:52,137 --> 00:27:53,938
DOWN THEIR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION. 

832
00:27:53,938 --> 00:27:55,407
SO WHEN WE COULD BRING IN THESE 

833
00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:57,175
DEBT RESTRUCTURING SUPPORTS FOR 

834
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:58,643
SOME OF BELLWETHERS CAPITAL 

835
00:27:58,643 --> 00:28:00,078
PROJECTS THAT WERE REALLY 

836
00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:01,546
STRUGGLING, IT LIFTS UP THE REST

837
00:28:01,546 --> 00:28:02,580
OF THEIR PORTFOLIO SO THEY CAN 

838
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:05,050
FOCUS ON OTHER THINGS. THEY 

839
00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:07,252
STILL HAVE SOME STRUGGLING 

840
00:28:07,252 --> 00:28:07,719
PROPERTIES, BUT THESE 

841
00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:08,420
INVESTMENTS HAVE BEEN REALLY, 

842
00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:09,387
REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE KEY 

843
00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:10,588
PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE

844
00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:14,893
TO INVEST IN. AND THERE WERE 

845
00:28:14,893 --> 00:28:15,393
OTHERS THAT WERE MADE. 

846
00:28:15,393 --> 00:28:17,562
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS 

847
00:28:17,562 --> 00:28:18,196
REALLY HELPFUL. I ACTUALLY WANT 

848
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:18,997
TO STAY HERE FOR JUST A SECOND, 

849
00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:19,898
BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING

850
00:28:19,898 --> 00:28:20,832
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A GOOD 

851
00:28:20,832 --> 00:28:22,734
AMOUNT IN COMMITTEE. AND I THINK

852
00:28:22,734 --> 00:28:23,835
SOMETIMES WHEN WE I'LL SAY WHEN

853
00:28:23,835 --> 00:28:25,403
THE PUBLIC HEARS THE WORDS DEBT 

854
00:28:25,403 --> 00:28:27,372
RESTRUCTURING, YOU MIGHT GET 

855
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,306
SORT OF A GLASSY EYED LOOK, OR 

856
00:28:28,306 --> 00:28:29,808
MAYBE SOMEBODY REALLY TAPS IN, 

857
00:28:29,808 --> 00:28:32,343
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I 

858
00:28:32,343 --> 00:28:33,478
THINK WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 

859
00:28:33,478 --> 00:28:34,746
HERE IS THE DISTINCTION THAT YOU

860
00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:36,247
JUST MADE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW 

861
00:28:36,247 --> 00:28:38,283
YOU STARTED OFF YOUR 

862
00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:39,951
PRESENTATION, WHICH I ALWAYS 

863
00:28:39,951 --> 00:28:40,585
APPRECIATE YOU GROUNDING US AND 

864
00:28:40,585 --> 00:28:42,821
LIKE, WHAT IS AFFORDABILITY WHEN

865
00:28:42,821 --> 00:28:45,623
WE TALK ABOUT AMI? SO WE'VE SEEN

866
00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:48,093
THIS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN AMI

867
00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:50,361
IN OUR REGION AS WE'VE WELCOMED

868
00:28:50,361 --> 00:28:51,262
NEW NEIGHBORS, OR WE'VE HAD 

869
00:28:51,262 --> 00:28:52,297
PEOPLE WITH HIGHER INCOMES COME 

870
00:28:52,297 --> 00:28:54,299
IN AND WE SEE THIS AMI GO UP, 

871
00:28:54,299 --> 00:28:55,433
UP, UP, AND AT THE SAME TIME, 

872
00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:58,169
WE'VE GOT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN 

873
00:28:58,169 --> 00:29:00,004
DEVELOPMENT. SO MAYBE SOMETHING 

874
00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:01,506
COMES ONLINE AND WE'RE ASSUMING

875
00:29:01,506 --> 00:29:03,041
THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE BEDROOM

876
00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:05,009
UNITS THAT ARE AT 60% AMI. AND I

877
00:29:05,009 --> 00:29:06,878
THINK WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT 

878
00:29:06,878 --> 00:29:08,346
IS THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT ARE 

879
00:29:08,346 --> 00:29:09,647
SORT OF HAPPENING HERE. ONE 

880
00:29:09,647 --> 00:29:12,083
WHERE IN SOME CASES, THAT 60% 

881
00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:15,887
AMI UNIT IS COMPARABLE TO A 

882
00:29:15,887 --> 00:29:17,889
MARKET RATE RENT. AND SO MY 

883
00:29:17,889 --> 00:29:18,456
FIRST QUESTION, AND THIS IS 

884
00:29:18,456 --> 00:29:19,624
GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A 

885
00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:21,059
LONGER STATEMENT. SO MY FIRST 

886
00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:22,293
QUESTION IS IF YOU CAN JUST SORT

887
00:29:22,293 --> 00:29:23,795
OF TEASE THAT OUT FOR US A 

888
00:29:23,795 --> 00:29:26,131
LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO MY

889
00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:27,098
UNDERSTANDING THAT'S NOT ACROSS

890
00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:28,967
THE BOARD THAT HAPPENS IN 

891
00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:31,236
STUDIOS AND ONE BEDROOMS IN SOME

892
00:29:31,236 --> 00:29:32,303
AREAS OF THE CITY. SO I'LL ASK 

893
00:29:32,303 --> 00:29:32,971
YOU TO SPELL THAT OUT A LITTLE 

894
00:29:32,971 --> 00:29:34,172
BIT MORE. AND THEN THE SECOND 

895
00:29:34,172 --> 00:29:36,941
PART, IN TERMS OF THE DEBT 

896
00:29:36,941 --> 00:29:37,542
RESTRUCTURING, AND AGAIN, THE 

897
00:29:37,542 --> 00:29:38,176
WORK THAT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE 

898
00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:39,844
DONE, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS

899
00:29:39,844 --> 00:29:42,213
THAT IN SOME CASES, YOU'VE 

900
00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:44,516
ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO BUY DOWN 

901
00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:46,885
THOSE RENTS TO GO FROM 60% TO 

902
00:29:46,885 --> 00:29:48,620
30%, WHICH MAKES WHICH SORT OF 

903
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,255
SHIFTS THE CALCULATION. SO IF 

904
00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:51,456
YOU CAN JUST SPEAK TO THOSE IN A

905
00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:52,524
LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, AGAIN, I

906
00:29:52,524 --> 00:29:54,859
KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN

907
00:29:54,859 --> 00:29:55,493
COMMITTEE, BUT FOR MY COLLEAGUES

908
00:29:55,493 --> 00:29:56,094
WHO AREN'T ON THE HOUSING 

909
00:29:56,094 --> 00:29:57,796
COMMITTEE, I WANT TO JUST MAKE 

910
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,397
SURE THAT WE BRING DEBT 

911
00:29:59,397 --> 00:30:00,031
RESTRUCTURING TO LIFE A LITTLE 

912
00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:01,799
BIT MORE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU 

913
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:03,401
ALL HAVE TAKEN REALLY 

914
00:30:03,401 --> 00:30:07,806
SIGNIFICANT STEPS IN THIS AREA 

915
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:09,440
-- THANK YOU. SO THAT IS RIGHT. 

916
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,909
AS AREA MEDIAN INCOME HAS 

917
00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:13,912
INCREASED IN THE CITY, WE HAVE 

918
00:30:13,912 --> 00:30:14,946
SEEN MORE AND MORE OVERLAP 

919
00:30:14,946 --> 00:30:16,981
BETWEEN VERY SMALL APARTMENTS 

920
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:19,284
THAT ARE IN THE MARKET, NOT 

921
00:30:19,284 --> 00:30:24,355
REGULATED AND ARE 60% REGULATED.

922
00:30:24,355 --> 00:30:25,323
STUDIOS IN PARTICULAR, IN MANY 

923
00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:25,924
NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE 

924
00:30:25,924 --> 00:30:29,294
CITY. NOT ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE 

925
00:30:29,294 --> 00:30:29,894
PARTICULARLY SEE THIS IN THE 

926
00:30:29,894 --> 00:30:32,463
SOUTH END, WHERE A 60% STUDIO 

927
00:30:32,463 --> 00:30:34,332
RENT IS ACTUALLY ABOVE MARKET. 

928
00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:37,001
IT'S NOT EVEN AT MARKET. IT IS 

929
00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:38,136
ABOVE MARKET. WE HAVE A COUPLE 

930
00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:39,037
OF NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS 

931
00:30:39,037 --> 00:30:40,872
THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHERE OUR 

932
00:30:40,872 --> 00:30:42,540
60% STUDIO RENT IS ABOVE MARKET 

933
00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:44,509
FOR STUDIOS. THIS HAS BEEN A 

934
00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:47,078
REAL BIG CHANGE FOR EVERYBODY 

935
00:30:47,078 --> 00:30:48,179
WORKING IN THE HOUSING MARKET 

936
00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:49,681
OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IN 

937
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,716
SEATTLE, YOU OFTEN WOULD ALWAYS 

938
00:30:51,716 --> 00:30:56,287
SAY 80% OF AMI IS AFFORDABLE 

939
00:30:56,287 --> 00:30:58,623
HOUSING. THAT'S REALLY CHANGED 

940
00:30:58,623 --> 00:30:59,157
SIGNIFICANTLY IN ORDER TO 

941
00:30:59,157 --> 00:31:01,793
ACHIEVE BELOW MARKET RENTS IN 

942
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:04,762
SEATTLE. WE ARE STARTING TO LOOK

943
00:31:04,762 --> 00:31:05,964
NOW MORE AT BETWEEN 30 AND 50 IS

944
00:31:05,964 --> 00:31:07,432
REALLY THE SWEET SPOT FOR 

945
00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:08,066
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN OF 

946
00:31:08,066 --> 00:31:09,667
COURSE, OUR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING 

947
00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:11,869
AND HOUSING FOR FOLKS EXITING 

948
00:31:11,869 --> 00:31:14,305
HOMELESSNESS IS ALWAYS BELOW 30%

949
00:31:14,305 --> 00:31:15,540
AMI, BUT FREQUENTLY THOSE FOLKS 

950
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,209
ARE REALLY LIVING AT AROUND 10% 

951
00:31:18,209 --> 00:31:21,412
OF THEIR INCOME IS ABOUT 10% OF 

952
00:31:21,412 --> 00:31:23,147
AM AYE. SO THAT REQUIRES 

953
00:31:23,147 --> 00:31:25,216
SIGNIFICANT SUBSIDY TO MAKE 

954
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:27,018
THOSE BUILDINGS OPERATE. I'M 

955
00:31:27,018 --> 00:31:30,221
REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR 

956
00:31:30,221 --> 00:31:31,322
CONVERSATION COMING UP SOON AS 

957
00:31:31,322 --> 00:31:33,124
WE EXPLORE ALL THE APPLICATIONS 

958
00:31:33,124 --> 00:31:35,059
THAT HAVE COME IN FOR THE RENTAL

959
00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:38,229
HOUSING NOFA THIS FALL, OUR TEAM

960
00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:39,664
IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET 

961
00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:41,332
ALL THE DATA PREPARED. I WAS 

962
00:31:41,332 --> 00:31:43,368
JUST PEEKING IN THE SPREADSHEET 

963
00:31:43,368 --> 00:31:44,535
THIS MORNING, AND IT'LL BE 

964
00:31:44,535 --> 00:31:45,637
REALLY GOOD FOR US TO BE LOOKING

965
00:31:45,637 --> 00:31:47,972
AT. WE HAVE A GEOGRAPHIC AREAS 

966
00:31:47,972 --> 00:31:49,107
THAT WE ESTABLISH. WE'RE LOOKING

967
00:31:49,107 --> 00:31:50,508
AT ALL THE COSTAR DATA THAT'S 

968
00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:54,345
COMING IN FROM THE MARKET TO 

969
00:31:54,345 --> 00:31:55,813
UNDERSTAND RENTS AND VACANCY BY 

970
00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:57,448
UNIT TYPES, BY NEIGHBORHOOD, SO 

971
00:31:57,448 --> 00:31:59,017
THAT WHEN WE ARE MAKING 

972
00:31:59,017 --> 00:31:59,851
INVESTMENT DECISIONS THIS YEAR, 

973
00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:01,686
WE ARE GOING TO FEEL ASSURED 

974
00:32:01,686 --> 00:32:03,855
THAT WE ARE INVESTING IN TRULY 

975
00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:05,423
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THAT'S 

976
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,892
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US. NOW 

977
00:32:07,892 --> 00:32:09,460
ON TO DEBT RESTRUCTURING. SO 

978
00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:12,797
LAST YEAR WE INVESTED IN NINE 

979
00:32:12,797 --> 00:32:15,266
PROJECTS WITH THIS DEBT 

980
00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:15,800
RESTRUCTURING TYPOLOGY. I 

981
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,069
BELIEVE IT WAS $55 MILLION 

982
00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:20,538
OVERALL. COMPARE THAT TO THE 40 

983
00:32:20,538 --> 00:32:21,940
MILLION THAT WE RELEASED IN 

984
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:23,041
URGENT OPERATING SUPPORT, WHICH 

985
00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:24,976
WAS MORE OF AN ORGANIZATION WIDE

986
00:32:24,976 --> 00:32:27,812
GRANT OFTEN CAME IN TO SUPPORT 

987
00:32:27,812 --> 00:32:28,413
MAINTENANCE INSURANCE COSTS. 

988
00:32:28,413 --> 00:32:30,081
SOME OF THESE BROADER 

989
00:32:30,081 --> 00:32:30,715
ORGANIZATIONAL COSTS THAT THEY 

990
00:32:30,715 --> 00:32:32,450
HAVE TO PAY TO CONTINUE TO 

991
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:35,219
MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING DEBT. 

992
00:32:35,219 --> 00:32:36,354
RESTRUCTURING GOES IN TO SUPPORT

993
00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:38,589
AT A VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT 

994
00:32:38,589 --> 00:32:41,859
LEVEL. IT'S MUCH MORE LIKE MANY

995
00:32:41,859 --> 00:32:43,728
OF OUR OTHER CAPITAL INVESTMENTS

996
00:32:43,728 --> 00:32:45,263
THAT WE MAKE AT THE OFFICE OF 

997
00:32:45,263 --> 00:32:48,399
HOUSING AS WE UNDERWRITE THE 

998
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:49,400
PROJECT AND CHANGE THE STRUCTURE

999
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,969
SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE RENT 

1000
00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:53,071
LEVELS PERMANENTLY. AND THEN THE

1001
00:32:53,071 --> 00:32:54,205
GOAL IS REALLY TO PULL THOSE OUT

1002
00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:58,576
OF NEGATIVE CASH FLOW STANCE, 

1003
00:32:58,576 --> 00:32:59,177
IMPROVE THEIR OPERATING LONG 

1004
00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:00,178
TERM SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT 

1005
00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:03,581
RESIDENTS FOR GENERATIONS AHEAD 

1006
00:33:03,581 --> 00:33:04,215
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU 

1007
00:33:04,215 --> 00:33:05,817
SO MUCH FOR THAT. I THINK 

1008
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:06,784
THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. AND I 

1009
00:33:06,784 --> 00:33:08,453
THINK IT SPEAKS TO THE ROLE THAT

1010
00:33:08,453 --> 00:33:09,721
OA IS PLAYING IN THE INCREASING 

1011
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:11,055
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE 

1012
00:33:11,055 --> 00:33:13,057
PRESERVING OUR AFFORDABLE 

1013
00:33:13,057 --> 00:33:14,092
HOUSING STOCK HERE IN SEATTLE. 

1014
00:33:14,092 --> 00:33:15,693
AND I APPRECIATE THE PIVOTS THAT

1015
00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:17,895
YOU ALL HAVE MADE IN ORDER TO DO

1016
00:33:17,895 --> 00:33:19,330
SO. ONE MORE THING ON THIS THAT 

1017
00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:20,698
I WANT TO JUST HAVE YOU SPEAK TO

1018
00:33:20,698 --> 00:33:22,133
A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN I'LL MOVE

1019
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:25,103
TO ANOTHER AREA IS HOW YOU'VE. 

1020
00:33:25,103 --> 00:33:26,504
AND I THINK YOU STARTED TO TOUCH

1021
00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:29,173
THIS ALREADY, HOW YOU'VE 

1022
00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:29,774
ALREADY ADJUSTED THE WHAT'S 

1023
00:33:29,774 --> 00:33:32,276
COMING OUT IN THE NOFAS TO TAKE 

1024
00:33:32,276 --> 00:33:33,544
THIS INTO ACCOUNT. SO EARLIER 

1025
00:33:33,544 --> 00:33:35,246
THIS YEAR, I THINK THERE WAS 

1026
00:33:35,246 --> 00:33:37,682
SOME REQUIREMENTS AROUND A 

1027
00:33:37,682 --> 00:33:39,050
CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE UNITS 

1028
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:40,284
NEEDED TO HAVE TWO BEDROOMS SO 

1029
00:33:40,284 --> 00:33:43,187
THAT WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO 

1030
00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:44,555
PIVOT AND MOVE OUR INVESTMENTS 

1031
00:33:44,555 --> 00:33:46,991
TO REFLECT WHERE THAT GREATEST 

1032
00:33:46,991 --> 00:33:47,258
NEED IS. 

1033
00:33:47,258 --> 00:33:50,795
-- YES. SO LAST YEAR WE DID 

1034
00:33:50,795 --> 00:33:51,429
ESTABLISH NEW THRESHOLD CRITERIA

1035
00:33:51,429 --> 00:33:53,865
THEY HAVE HELD IN PLACE FOR THIS

1036
00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:55,900
YEAR. THAT REQUIRES ALL PROJECTS

1037
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,803
TO SUBMIT AT LEAST 20% OF UNITS 

1038
00:33:58,803 --> 00:34:00,505
FOR NEW PRODUCTION. MUST BE TWO 

1039
00:34:00,505 --> 00:34:03,608
BEDROOMS OR MORE, 20% OF ALL 

1040
00:34:03,608 --> 00:34:05,643
UNITS MUST BE AT 30% AMI OR 

1041
00:34:05,643 --> 00:34:07,645
BELOW. SO WE'RE REALLY DRIVING 

1042
00:34:07,645 --> 00:34:10,415
TOWARD THIS LOWER INCOME UNITS 

1043
00:34:10,415 --> 00:34:12,683
AND THE LARGER FAMILY SIZE HOMES

1044
00:34:12,683 --> 00:34:13,351
THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IN THE 

1045
00:34:13,351 --> 00:34:14,485
CITY. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DATA 

1046
00:34:14,485 --> 00:34:16,888
THAT SHOWS HOW WE ARE FALLING 

1047
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:19,657
SHORT ON BOTH OF THOSE FRONTS. 

1048
00:34:19,657 --> 00:34:21,125
WE ARE HOLDING VERY STRONG TO 

1049
00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:23,428
THAT THIS YEAR AS WELL, AND MAY 

1050
00:34:23,428 --> 00:34:24,595
GO FURTHER AS WE ARE GOING 

1051
00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:26,931
THROUGH APPLICATION REVIEW AND 

1052
00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:27,532
INVESTMENT DECISIONS OVER THE 

1053
00:34:27,532 --> 00:34:28,499
COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF 

1054
00:34:28,499 --> 00:34:30,301
MONTHS. IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR

1055
00:34:30,301 --> 00:34:33,271
ME AS WE'VE BEEN REPORTING, 

1056
00:34:33,271 --> 00:34:34,172
RESPONDING TO A NUMBER OF THE 

1057
00:34:34,172 --> 00:34:35,706
STATEMENTS OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT

1058
00:34:35,706 --> 00:34:38,176
THAT HAVE COME THROUGH. WE 

1059
00:34:38,176 --> 00:34:38,943
UPDATED THE SEATTLE HOUSING 

1060
00:34:38,943 --> 00:34:40,278
INVESTMENT PLAN, WHICH IS 

1061
00:34:40,278 --> 00:34:40,878
SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER 

1062
00:34:40,878 --> 00:34:42,380
KETTLE IS VERY INTERESTED IN. 

1063
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:44,982
AND IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO 

1064
00:34:44,982 --> 00:34:46,417
SEE THE DATA IN THAT SEATTLE 

1065
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,653
HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN SHOWS 

1066
00:34:48,653 --> 00:34:51,222
OUR HOUSING NEEDS BY INCOME 

1067
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:53,024
LEVEL AND WHAT WE PROJECTED WE 

1068
00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:54,459
COULD ACHIEVE WITH DIFFERENT 

1069
00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:55,927
TYPES OF HOUSING INVESTMENTS IN 

1070
00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:58,162
THE CITY. AND WE REALLY ARE 

1071
00:34:58,162 --> 00:35:01,933
EXPECTING TO EXCEED OUR GOAL FOR

1072
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:03,901
THE 50 TO 80% OF AMI HOUSING 

1073
00:35:03,901 --> 00:35:08,172
TYPOLOGY, WITH A LOT OF OTHER 

1074
00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:08,773
TRADITIONAL INVESTMENTS LIKE 

1075
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:09,440
MFT, SEATTLE HOUSING AUTHORITY, 

1076
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,975
SOCIAL HOUSING DEVELOPERS, 

1077
00:35:10,975 --> 00:35:13,811
BRINGING ON SOME OF THOSE, THOSE

1078
00:35:13,811 --> 00:35:17,548
UNITS AS WELL. THE GREAT NEED 

1079
00:35:17,548 --> 00:35:19,083
EXISTS BELOW 50% OF AREA MEDIAN 

1080
00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:20,318
INCOME. THIS CHART AND THIS, 

1081
00:35:20,318 --> 00:35:21,452
THIS GAP THAT WE'RE FACING IN 

1082
00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:23,454
OUR CITY WILL BE FRONT AND 

1083
00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:24,589
CENTER FOR OUR TEAM AND OUR 

1084
00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:26,357
EVALUATORS AS WE ARE CONSIDERING

1085
00:35:26,357 --> 00:35:28,926
HOW TO INVEST THE $110 MILLION 

1086
00:35:28,926 --> 00:35:31,128
THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR FOR OUR 

1087
00:35:31,128 --> 00:35:32,964
RENTAL HOUSING. NOFA. 

1088
00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:34,398
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 

1089
00:35:34,398 --> 00:35:36,801
OKAY, SO I WANT TO SHIFT US JUST

1090
00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:39,103
A LITTLE BIT TO TALK MORE ABOUT 

1091
00:35:39,103 --> 00:35:41,305
OUR PIPELINE. AND YOU, YOU SPOKE

1092
00:35:41,305 --> 00:35:42,907
TO THIS IN YOUR OPENING REMARKS.

1093
00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:43,541
AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF 

1094
00:35:43,541 --> 00:35:48,045
WAYS TO THINK ABOUT $110 MILLION

1095
00:35:48,045 --> 00:35:50,081
NOFA OR $347 MILLION FOR THE OW 

1096
00:35:50,081 --> 00:35:52,183
TOTAL BUDGET. BUT ONE THING THAT

1097
00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:53,784
I WANT TO REALLY PULL OUT FROM 

1098
00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:55,386
YOUR PRESENTATION, AND FROM WHAT

1099
00:35:55,386 --> 00:35:57,688
I'VE HEARD YOU SAY, AND MANY OF

1100
00:35:57,688 --> 00:35:59,590
OUR PROVIDERS SAY, IS THE 

1101
00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,626
CHALLENGES IN OUR PIPELINE 

1102
00:36:01,626 --> 00:36:02,260
BECAUSE OTHER BECAUSE WHAT'S 

1103
00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:03,628
HAPPENING WITH OTHER FUND 

1104
00:36:03,628 --> 00:36:04,428
SOURCES. SO CAN YOU DO TWO 

1105
00:36:04,428 --> 00:36:07,431
THINGS? CAN YOU JUST SORT OF 

1106
00:36:07,431 --> 00:36:09,300
SPEAK TO THE INTERPLAY OF O 

1107
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,034
DOLLARS WITH OTHER FUND SOURCES 

1108
00:36:10,034 --> 00:36:13,037
IN TERMS OF HELPING PROVIDERS 

1109
00:36:13,037 --> 00:36:16,140
ACHIEVE THEIR CAPITAL STACKS? I 

1110
00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:17,642
WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE 

1111
00:36:17,642 --> 00:36:19,043
HIGHLIGHTING THAT BECAUSE WHILE 

1112
00:36:19,043 --> 00:36:20,244
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WHILE 

1113
00:36:20,244 --> 00:36:21,879
WE'RE MAKING SIGNIFICANT 

1114
00:36:21,879 --> 00:36:22,413
INVESTMENTS, WE CERTAINLY 

1115
00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:23,981
AREN'T THE ONLY INVESTOR THAT 

1116
00:36:23,981 --> 00:36:25,049
PROVIDERS RELY ON. AND THERE'S 

1117
00:36:25,049 --> 00:36:27,151
A REALLY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP 

1118
00:36:27,151 --> 00:36:27,852
THERE THAT I'D LOVE TO ASK YOU 

1119
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:30,454
TO HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 

1120
00:36:30,454 --> 00:36:32,823
AND IN PARTICULAR, HOW WE'RE 

1121
00:36:32,823 --> 00:36:35,626
SEEING THE IMPACT OF OTHER FUND 

1122
00:36:35,626 --> 00:36:38,396
SOURCES ON OUR CAPITAL PIPELINE.

1123
00:36:38,396 --> 00:36:40,565
-- GREAT. THANK YOU. YES. OVER 

1124
00:36:40,565 --> 00:36:43,501
THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AS 

1125
00:36:43,501 --> 00:36:45,636
I'VE BEEN GOING AROUND AND 

1126
00:36:45,636 --> 00:36:46,270
MEETING WITH ALL OF THE LEADERS,

1127
00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:48,139
MANY OF THE LEADERS IN OUR 

1128
00:36:48,139 --> 00:36:50,408
COMMUNITY, OF OUR HOUSING 

1129
00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:52,877
ORGANIZATIONS, I'M HEARING A LOT

1130
00:36:52,877 --> 00:36:54,745
ABOUT THEIR PIPELINES. MANY OF 

1131
00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:55,947
THEM DO HAVE PROJECTS THAT THEY 

1132
00:36:55,947 --> 00:36:59,684
HAVE PURCHASED SITES. THEY ARE 

1133
00:36:59,684 --> 00:37:00,251
VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING 

1134
00:37:00,251 --> 00:37:01,352
STARTED TO DEVELOP. WE HAVE 

1135
00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:03,754
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING 

1136
00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:05,189
OPERATORS THAT HAVE SITES, AND 

1137
00:37:05,189 --> 00:37:06,624
THEY'RE INTERESTED IN STARTING 

1138
00:37:06,624 --> 00:37:08,793
TO GET READY TO GO. THERE'S A 

1139
00:37:08,793 --> 00:37:11,162
LOT OF PROJECTS UNDERWAY AS 

1140
00:37:11,162 --> 00:37:14,732
WELL, BUT IN ORDER FOR SEATTLE 

1141
00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:16,701
TO MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD, WE 

1142
00:37:16,701 --> 00:37:20,438
RELY ON OTHERS. ALL OF OUR 

1143
00:37:20,438 --> 00:37:20,938
CAPITAL STACKS FOR NEW 

1144
00:37:20,938 --> 00:37:22,840
DEVELOPMENT ARE VERY 

1145
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,843
COMPLICATED. THE MOST 

1146
00:37:25,843 --> 00:37:26,811
SIGNIFICANT LEVERAGE PARTNER 

1147
00:37:26,811 --> 00:37:27,345
COMES FROM THE LOW INCOME 

1148
00:37:27,345 --> 00:37:29,513
HOUSING TAX CREDITS AND EQUITY 

1149
00:37:29,513 --> 00:37:31,582
INVESTORS. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL

1150
00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:33,884
YEARS, WE'VE SEEN TAX CREDIT 

1151
00:37:33,884 --> 00:37:37,288
PRICING DROP. IT'S CONTINUING TO

1152
00:37:37,288 --> 00:37:39,957
DECREASE. AND WITH THIS, 

1153
00:37:39,957 --> 00:37:40,491
INVESTOR REQUIREMENTS ARE 

1154
00:37:40,491 --> 00:37:42,793
INCREASING. AND CONDITIONS ARE 

1155
00:37:42,793 --> 00:37:46,897
CHANGING QUITE A LOT MONTH BY 

1156
00:37:46,897 --> 00:37:48,633
MONTH. I'M HEARING NEW 

1157
00:37:48,633 --> 00:37:50,134
ANECDOTES AND STORIES FROM OUR 

1158
00:37:50,134 --> 00:37:51,569
TEAMS EVERY DAY ABOUT WHAT 

1159
00:37:51,569 --> 00:37:52,903
THEY'RE FACING ON DEALS. AND 

1160
00:37:52,903 --> 00:37:54,772
WE'RE REALLY WATCHING THIS 

1161
00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:56,941
CLOSELY AND STAYING VERY ENGAGED

1162
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:57,441
IN CONVERSATIONS ON OUR 

1163
00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,610
PROJECTS. BUT AS THIS TAX CREDIT

1164
00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:01,112
PRICING DROPS, THAT GENERALLY 

1165
00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:03,714
MEANS LESS OF THAT RESOURCE 

1166
00:38:03,714 --> 00:38:06,751
GOING INTO THE CAPITAL STACK AND

1167
00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:08,886
A NEED FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO COME 

1168
00:38:08,886 --> 00:38:11,589
IN. SO WE ARE STILL RECEIVING 

1169
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:12,957
SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS FOR 

1170
00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:13,557
PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY 

1171
00:38:13,557 --> 00:38:14,659
INVESTED IN THAT IS HAPPENING 

1172
00:38:14,659 --> 00:38:17,862
NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT THAT IT 

1173
00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:19,630
DID ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN 

1174
00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:22,099
INTEREST RATES REALLY SPIKED. 

1175
00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:23,067
BUT THERE'S STILL ARE NEEDS 

1176
00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:24,935
COMING IN ON OUR CURRENT 

1177
00:38:24,935 --> 00:38:26,037
PIPELINE OF PROJECTS. AND SO 

1178
00:38:26,037 --> 00:38:28,439
FAR, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO 

1179
00:38:28,439 --> 00:38:31,375
NEGOTIATE THOSE ADDITIONAL 

1180
00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:33,077
COMMITMENTS DOWN AS FAR AS 

1181
00:38:33,077 --> 00:38:35,446
POSSIBLE, BRINGING IN OTHER 

1182
00:38:35,446 --> 00:38:36,547
FUNDERS WHEREVER POSSIBLE. BUT 

1183
00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:38,516
ALSO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND

1184
00:38:38,516 --> 00:38:39,750
BECAUSE WE HAVE FUND SOURCES 

1185
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:40,985
AVAILABLE TO DO THAT, AND IT 

1186
00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:42,520
HELPS US TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE

1187
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,956
PROJECTS COMPLETE AND OPEN AND 

1188
00:38:45,956 --> 00:38:47,458
BRING RESIDENTS INSIDE, WHICH IS

1189
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:51,429
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. WE'RE

1190
00:38:51,429 --> 00:38:52,363
ALSO HEARING AND SEEING IN THE 

1191
00:38:52,363 --> 00:38:54,165
PROJECTIONS THAT THE KING COUNTY

1192
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,900
CAPITAL LEVERAGE WILL BE 

1193
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:56,534
DECREASING IN FUTURE YEARS. SO 

1194
00:38:56,534 --> 00:38:58,502
THAT FUND SOURCE WILL BE GOING 

1195
00:38:58,502 --> 00:39:00,204
DOWN HASN'T BEEN A HUGE 

1196
00:39:00,204 --> 00:39:01,172
PERCENTAGE OF OUR CAPITAL STACK,

1197
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:05,076
BUT IT CONTRIBUTES A SIGNIFICANT

1198
00:39:05,076 --> 00:39:06,544
ENOUGH STEADY, SMALL COMMITMENT 

1199
00:39:06,544 --> 00:39:07,878
THAT WE ARE EXPECTING TO RELY ON

1200
00:39:07,878 --> 00:39:10,014
LESS IN FUTURE YEARS. AND THEN 

1201
00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:12,550
THE STATE IS ALSO FACING BUDGET 

1202
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:13,951
DIFFICULTIES. SO ALL OF THOSE 

1203
00:39:13,951 --> 00:39:16,253
TAKEN TOGETHER, IT'S JUST A 

1204
00:39:16,253 --> 00:39:17,288
VERY DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT RIGHT 

1205
00:39:17,288 --> 00:39:20,091
NOW WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT 

1206
00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:20,691
LEVERAGE POINTS AND INVESTOR 

1207
00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:22,126
DEMANDS SORT OF CHANGING. BUT 

1208
00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:24,028
SEATTLE HAS REMAINED A STEADY 

1209
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:26,030
PARTNER FOR OUR PIPELINE AND FOR

1210
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:27,865
ALL THESE PROJECTS MOVING 

1211
00:39:27,865 --> 00:39:28,966
FORWARD, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO

1212
00:39:28,966 --> 00:39:31,435
DO THAT TO THE EXTENT WE'RE 

1213
00:39:31,435 --> 00:39:31,635
ABLE. 

1214
00:39:31,635 --> 00:39:32,536
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT. I REALLY 

1215
00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:34,238
APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK IT 

1216
00:39:34,238 --> 00:39:35,539
UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF 

1217
00:39:35,539 --> 00:39:37,174
WHY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE 

1218
00:39:37,174 --> 00:39:39,510
BUDGET AND AS PROPOSED, IS SO 

1219
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:42,146
CRITICAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO 

1220
00:39:42,146 --> 00:39:43,647
MAINTAIN OUR OUR CONSISTENT 

1221
00:39:43,647 --> 00:39:46,984
INVESTMENT, THE $140 MILLION IN 

1222
00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:48,018
JUMPSTART, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO 

1223
00:39:48,018 --> 00:39:49,920
HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY FOR THESE 

1224
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,555
PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY'RE FACING

1225
00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:53,557
SUCH INCREDIBLE HEADWINDS FROM 

1226
00:39:53,557 --> 00:39:54,892
EVERY FUND SOURCE THAT'S 

1227
00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:56,827
AVAILABLE TO THEM. ONE MORE 

1228
00:39:56,827 --> 00:39:57,595
QUESTION ON COST HERE. SO, YOU 

1229
00:39:57,595 --> 00:39:59,663
KNOW, YOU SPOKE TO THE HOUSING 

1230
00:39:59,663 --> 00:40:01,465
LEVY AND THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE

1231
00:40:01,465 --> 00:40:02,900
MADE, AND I JUST THINK IT'S 

1232
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:03,534
INCREDIBLE PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR 

1233
00:40:03,534 --> 00:40:05,035
HOUSING LEVY GOALS. ONE THING 

1234
00:40:05,035 --> 00:40:06,537
THAT WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT 

1235
00:40:06,537 --> 00:40:09,073
IN COMMITTEE IS THE RELATIONSHIP

1236
00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:10,508
THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY 

1237
00:40:10,508 --> 00:40:12,710
BETWEEN THE HOUSING LEVY AND 

1238
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:14,812
JUMPSTART. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT

1239
00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:19,116
JUST A LITTLE BIT 

1240
00:40:19,116 --> 00:40:22,219
-- YES. WHEN WE INITIALLY 

1241
00:40:22,219 --> 00:40:25,055
MODELED THE 2023 SEATTLE HOUSING

1242
00:40:25,055 --> 00:40:29,293
LEVY, WE WERE STRIVING TO HAVE 

1243
00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:31,462
LEVY INVESTMENTS SEPARATE AND 

1244
00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,564
APART FROM JUMPSTART PET 

1245
00:40:33,564 --> 00:40:35,766
INVESTMENTS ON THE CAPITAL SIDE,

1246
00:40:35,766 --> 00:40:37,067
WE'VE SHIFTED A LOT OF 

1247
00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:37,668
JUMPSTART AND PAYROLL EXPENSE 

1248
00:40:37,668 --> 00:40:40,337
TAX EVENTS, INVESTMENTS TO OUR 

1249
00:40:40,337 --> 00:40:42,106
OPERATING. AND SO THOSE SUPPORTS

1250
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:44,375
ARE INCREDIBLY NECESSARY FOR OUR

1251
00:40:44,375 --> 00:40:44,809
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING 

1252
00:40:44,809 --> 00:40:45,743
INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH THE 

1253
00:40:45,743 --> 00:40:48,312
HOUSING LEVY BUILDS. BUT WE 

1254
00:40:48,312 --> 00:40:51,215
INITIALLY HAD INTENDED FOR LEVY 

1255
00:40:51,215 --> 00:40:54,518
AND JUMPSTART PET TO REMAIN 

1256
00:40:54,518 --> 00:40:56,086
SEPARATE AS THE COST ENVIRONMENT

1257
00:40:56,086 --> 00:40:57,521
HAS CHANGED, IT HAS BEEN 

1258
00:40:57,521 --> 00:40:58,989
NECESSARY TO ASSUME SOME AMOUNT 

1259
00:40:58,989 --> 00:41:00,858
OF JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX

1260
00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:02,793
TO BRING OUR HOUSING LEVY 

1261
00:41:02,793 --> 00:41:04,929
PROJECTS FORWARD AND TO ACHIEVE 

1262
00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:07,097
OUR HOUSING LEVY GOALS. AS PART 

1263
00:41:07,097 --> 00:41:09,099
OF THE SEATTLE HOUSING 

1264
00:41:09,099 --> 00:41:11,402
INVESTMENT PLAN UPDATE, OUR TEAM

1265
00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:14,205
REFRESHED THE SEATTLE HOUSING 

1266
00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:14,772
LEVY UNDERLYING MODEL WITH 

1267
00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:17,408
UPDATED COST ASSUMPTIONS, THE 

1268
00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:19,443
PRIMARY BEING INTEREST RATES, 

1269
00:41:19,443 --> 00:41:21,312
LIGHT TECH PRICING, TAX CREDIT 

1270
00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:23,814
PRICING, COST, INFLATION FACTORS

1271
00:41:23,814 --> 00:41:25,816
FOR CONSTRUCTION. THOSE ARE THE 

1272
00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:27,485
BIGGEST FACTORS AT PLAY THAT 

1273
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,720
REALLY CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF 

1274
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,456
WHAT WE EXPECT TO PRODUCE WITH 

1275
00:41:32,456 --> 00:41:33,691
THE RESOURCES WE HAVE. AND WITH 

1276
00:41:33,691 --> 00:41:35,759
THAT, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT GIVEN

1277
00:41:35,759 --> 00:41:39,597
OUR CURRENT MODEL, WHICH AGAIN, 

1278
00:41:39,597 --> 00:41:41,232
A SPREADSHEET IS ONE MODEL, 

1279
00:41:41,232 --> 00:41:43,767
IT'S ONE SCENARIO. IT'S NOT 

1280
00:41:43,767 --> 00:41:44,301
PREDICTIVE OF THE FUTURE 

1281
00:41:44,301 --> 00:41:46,237
PERFECTLY. IT IS ONE WAY FOR US 

1282
00:41:46,237 --> 00:41:48,172
TO LOOK AT HOW OUR RESOURCES 

1283
00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:50,674
WILL BE SPENT BY BUILDING BY 

1284
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:53,444
UNIT TYPE, BY INCOME. AND WE 

1285
00:41:53,444 --> 00:41:55,012
BELIEVE IN THIS METHODOLOGY. 

1286
00:41:55,012 --> 00:41:56,914
IT'S STRONG. IT'S NOT A PERFECT

1287
00:41:56,914 --> 00:41:59,516
PREDICTOR. BUT WHEN WE UPDATED 

1288
00:41:59,516 --> 00:42:02,086
THAT WITH THESE CURRENT COST 

1289
00:42:02,086 --> 00:42:04,321
CONDITIONS, WHICH WE THINK ARE 

1290
00:42:04,321 --> 00:42:06,757
HOLDING RELATIVELY STABLE AS OF 

1291
00:42:06,757 --> 00:42:09,727
THIS YEAR TO IT DID REQUIRE 

1292
00:42:09,727 --> 00:42:11,428
OTHER CITY RESOURCES TO COME IN 

1293
00:42:11,428 --> 00:42:13,864
TO SUPPORT THOSE PRODUCTION 

1294
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:15,633
GOALS. SO WE ARE HOLDING STEADY 

1295
00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:17,534
AT OUR ASSUMPTION RIGHT NOW THAT

1296
00:42:17,534 --> 00:42:19,536
WE NEED ABOUT $46 MILLION OF 

1297
00:42:19,536 --> 00:42:20,971
JUMPSTART PET TO SUPPORT THE 

1298
00:42:20,971 --> 00:42:23,173
HOUSING LEVY CAPITAL GOALS THAT 

1299
00:42:23,173 --> 00:42:28,779
MAY SHIFT. CERTAINLY, WHEN YOU 

1300
00:42:28,779 --> 00:42:30,481
SHIFT INVESTMENTS TOWARD MORE 

1301
00:42:30,481 --> 00:42:33,317
PRESERVATION, FOR EXAMPLE. SO WE

1302
00:42:33,317 --> 00:42:34,919
INVESTED IN DESKS, MORRISON 

1303
00:42:34,919 --> 00:42:37,888
HOTEL DOWN THE ROAD. THAT'S AN 

1304
00:42:37,888 --> 00:42:39,623
$18 MILLION PRESERVATION AWARD, 

1305
00:42:39,623 --> 00:42:41,892
AND THAT SUPPORTS A VERY LARGE 

1306
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:44,061
PROJECT. SO THE PER UNIT 

1307
00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:45,396
CONTRIBUTION ACTUALLY IS QUITE 

1308
00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:47,898
LOW ON A PRESERVATION PROJECT 

1309
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:48,866
TYPICALLY. SO AS YOU INVEST, IF 

1310
00:42:48,866 --> 00:42:50,668
YOU INVEST IN MORE PRESERVATION 

1311
00:42:50,668 --> 00:42:52,236
PROJECTS, YOUR PER UNIT COST IS 

1312
00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:56,407
GOING TO BE LOWER. AND WE ARE 

1313
00:42:56,407 --> 00:42:59,843
SEEING THE NEED FOR MORE 

1314
00:42:59,843 --> 00:43:00,411
PRESERVATION INVESTMENTS AS 

1315
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:01,078
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. SO THIS 

1316
00:43:01,078 --> 00:43:04,415
COULD SHIFT AND CHANGE AS WE GO.

1317
00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:06,583
AND I THINK OUR TEAM WOULD BE 

1318
00:43:06,583 --> 00:43:09,320
INTERESTED IN REVISITING THE 

1319
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,355
METHODOLOGY, THE MODEL NEXT 

1320
00:43:11,355 --> 00:43:13,757
YEAR, IF CONDITIONS CHANGE 

1321
00:43:13,757 --> 00:43:15,092
SIGNIFICANTLY SO THAT WE CAN 

1322
00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:16,226
UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, HOW THESE 

1323
00:43:16,226 --> 00:43:19,396
FUND SOURCES ARE ARE INTERACTING

1324
00:43:19,396 --> 00:43:21,465
AND NECESSARY FOR EACH OTHER. 

1325
00:43:21,465 --> 00:43:22,533
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 

1326
00:43:22,533 --> 00:43:25,869
AND I'LL JUST SAY ON THIS, I 

1327
00:43:25,869 --> 00:43:26,670
THINK IT'S I'M HAPPY TO HEAR 

1328
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:28,072
ABOUT THE MODELING. WE'VE 

1329
00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:29,173
TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. THE 

1330
00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:30,808
REASON I WANTED TO UPLIFT, I 

1331
00:43:30,808 --> 00:43:32,309
KEEP SAYING UPLIFT TODAY. IT'S 

1332
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:33,877
JUST WHERE WE ARE. THE REASON I 

1333
00:43:33,877 --> 00:43:35,512
WANTED TO BRING THIS UP TODAY 

1334
00:43:35,512 --> 00:43:36,747
IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK 

1335
00:43:36,747 --> 00:43:38,415
THAT THERE WAS INCREDIBLE WORK 

1336
00:43:38,415 --> 00:43:41,452
DONE, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE HOUSING 

1337
00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:42,619
LEVY AND STRONG WORK DONE THERE 

1338
00:43:42,619 --> 00:43:43,320
AND STRONG WORK IN TERMS OF 

1339
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,655
PROGRESSING TOWARDS THOSE GOALS.

1340
00:43:44,655 --> 00:43:47,257
BUT I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT

1341
00:43:47,257 --> 00:43:49,693
FOR FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE

1342
00:43:49,693 --> 00:43:52,029
TODAY, JUST THE TREMENDOUS COST 

1343
00:43:52,029 --> 00:43:53,530
PRESSURE AND THE WAY THAT THAT 

1344
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:54,798
HAS IMPACTED SOME OF OUR 

1345
00:43:54,798 --> 00:43:56,967
ASSUMPTIONS. AND I THINK THAT 

1346
00:43:56,967 --> 00:43:58,202
IT'S SMART THAT O HAS DONE SUCH

1347
00:43:58,202 --> 00:44:00,270
A GOOD JOB OF MODELING AND 

1348
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:02,039
GETTING AHEAD TO UNDERSTAND THE 

1349
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:03,140
ROLE THAT JUMPSTART WILL NEED TO

1350
00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:05,476
PLAY. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE 

1351
00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:06,944
THAT WE HAVE THAT CLARITY, 

1352
00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:09,113
BECAUSE THAT'S KEY FOR US TO 

1353
00:44:09,113 --> 00:44:10,848
JUST HIT THOSE HOUSING LEVY 

1354
00:44:10,848 --> 00:44:12,049
PRODUCTION GOALS, WHICH ARE 

1355
00:44:12,049 --> 00:44:13,517
GOALS THAT WE, WE, WE WILL HIT. 

1356
00:44:13,517 --> 00:44:15,219
I KNOW, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE 

1357
00:44:15,219 --> 00:44:18,489
THAT CLARITY THIS MORNING. THAT 

1358
00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:19,623
CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. I'LL 

1359
00:44:19,623 --> 00:44:20,557
JUST CLOSE WITH THIS AND SAY, I 

1360
00:44:20,557 --> 00:44:21,759
THINK THAT THE WORK THAT YOU AND

1361
00:44:21,759 --> 00:44:24,561
YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING IS, IS

1362
00:44:24,561 --> 00:44:25,295
TREMENDOUS IN THE AFFORDABLE 

1363
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:27,331
HOUSING SPACE. AND AGAIN, JUST 

1364
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:28,232
EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION AND MY 

1365
00:44:28,232 --> 00:44:30,000
GRATITUDE TO YOU FOR YOUR 

1366
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,168
LEADERSHIP BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AS 

1367
00:44:31,168 --> 00:44:32,369
A LONGTIME STAFFER AND NOW NEW 

1368
00:44:32,369 --> 00:44:33,704
DIRECTOR. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

1369
00:44:33,704 --> 00:44:36,140
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. 

1370
00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:36,707
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

1371
00:44:36,707 --> 00:44:40,644
FOSTER. COLLEAGUES, QUESTIONS, 

1372
00:44:40,644 --> 00:44:42,146
COMMENTS. I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER 

1373
00:44:42,146 --> 00:44:45,082
RIVERA. AND ONE THING I WILL 

1374
00:44:45,082 --> 00:44:46,984
REQUEST IS IF YOU DO WANT TO 

1375
00:44:46,984 --> 00:44:48,218
SPEAK, JUST GET YOUR HAND UP 

1376
00:44:48,218 --> 00:44:50,287
THERE. THEN WE ALL KNOW HOW MANY

1377
00:44:50,287 --> 00:44:51,588
PEOPLE ARE IN THE QUEUE. IT 

1378
00:44:51,588 --> 00:44:53,223
REALLY HELPS. OVER TO YOU, VICE 

1379
00:44:53,223 --> 00:44:53,457
CHAIR. 

1380
00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:54,792
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

1381
00:44:54,792 --> 00:44:57,094
YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND 

1382
00:44:57,094 --> 00:44:58,162
CONGRATULATIONS, KELLY. I DON'T

1383
00:44:58,162 --> 00:45:02,232
THINK I'VE SEEN YOU SINCE YOUR 

1384
00:45:02,232 --> 00:45:04,268
CONFIRMATION. I JUST WANT TO. 

1385
00:45:04,268 --> 00:45:07,638
KELLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 

1386
00:45:07,638 --> 00:45:12,409
SORRY, I NEED TO MICK JAGGER. 

1387
00:45:12,409 --> 00:45:13,243
OKAY. CHAIR. YOU COULD TELL I 

1388
00:45:13,243 --> 00:45:17,181
WAS NEVER IN A BAND. CAN YOU 

1389
00:45:17,181 --> 00:45:20,350
TELL US A LITTLE BIT? SO WE'VE 

1390
00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:22,553
HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE IN 

1391
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,855
TERMS OF THE UNITS THAT WE 

1392
00:45:24,855 --> 00:45:26,390
ALREADY HAVE CREATED AND THE 

1393
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:28,525
MAINTENANCE OF IT, WE'VE HEARD 

1394
00:45:28,525 --> 00:45:29,893
FROM HOUSING PROVIDERS IN YEARS 

1395
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:32,529
PAST, STARTING IN 2024, ABOUT 

1396
00:45:32,529 --> 00:45:35,065
THE DIFFICULTIES OF MAINTAINING 

1397
00:45:35,065 --> 00:45:37,501
THE UNITS THAT THEY CURRENTLY 

1398
00:45:37,501 --> 00:45:42,372
HAVE FOR A MYRIAD OF REASONS. 

1399
00:45:42,372 --> 00:45:44,541
AND SO THEN WE DID THE 

1400
00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:46,176
STABILIZATION FUNDS AND THEN 

1401
00:45:46,176 --> 00:45:47,578
LIKE THE DEBT RESTRUCTURING WAS 

1402
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:50,981
A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT. AND I, I 

1403
00:45:50,981 --> 00:45:53,183
APPRECIATE THAT YOU SUBMITTED 

1404
00:45:53,183 --> 00:45:55,452
YOUR SLI REQUESTS. IT DIDN'T 

1405
00:45:55,452 --> 00:45:57,888
HAVE VERY MUCH INFORMATION 

1406
00:45:57,888 --> 00:45:59,723
CONTAINED IN IT IN TERMS OF 

1407
00:45:59,723 --> 00:46:02,326
BEING ABLE TO ASSESS HOW WELL 

1408
00:46:02,326 --> 00:46:03,994
THOSE STABILIZATION FUNDS ARE 

1409
00:46:03,994 --> 00:46:05,963
GOING, AND ALSO, CAN YOU TELL US

1410
00:46:05,963 --> 00:46:07,865
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEBT 

1411
00:46:07,865 --> 00:46:09,366
RESTRUCTURING? I KNOW THAT JUST 

1412
00:46:09,366 --> 00:46:12,970
WAS AS OF, I THINK, LAST YEAR. 

1413
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:15,005
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO WE HAVE

1414
00:46:15,005 --> 00:46:16,874
INFORMATION TO SEE HOW WELL THE 

1415
00:46:16,874 --> 00:46:20,244
DEBT RESTRUCTURING IS GOING FOR 

1416
00:46:20,244 --> 00:46:23,247
THOSE PROVIDERS THAT HAVE 

1417
00:46:23,247 --> 00:46:27,684
UTILIZED THAT TOOL TO BE ABLE TO

1418
00:46:27,684 --> 00:46:29,453
ADDRESS WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN 

1419
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:31,321
THEIR BUILDINGS, AND THEN, OF 

1420
00:46:31,321 --> 00:46:31,855
COURSE, SEPARATE FROM THE 

1421
00:46:31,855 --> 00:46:32,556
STABILIZATION FUNDS, BECAUSE I 

1422
00:46:32,556 --> 00:46:35,058
WHAT I HAD HEARD FROM PROVIDERS 

1423
00:46:35,058 --> 00:46:39,163
THAT YOU DID MENTION IN YOUR IN 

1424
00:46:39,163 --> 00:46:41,532
YOUR MEMO WAS JUST HAVING TO 

1425
00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:44,168
REPAIR THE UNITS THAT ARE 

1426
00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:49,273
EXISTING THEY'RE JUST GETTING 

1427
00:46:49,273 --> 00:46:51,074
DAMAGED BY RESIDENTS, I BELIEVE.

1428
00:46:51,074 --> 00:46:52,209
SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT 

1429
00:46:52,209 --> 00:46:54,545
ABOUT THAT? AND THEN I COULDN'T

1430
00:46:54,545 --> 00:46:56,647
FIND I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET 

1431
00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:58,749
BOOK. THERE WAS A ONE TIME 

1432
00:46:58,749 --> 00:46:59,850
REDUCTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT 

1433
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:01,351
THAT WAS TO. AND SO I WANT TO 

1434
00:47:01,351 --> 00:47:04,054
CONFIRM THAT THE STABILIZATION 

1435
00:47:04,054 --> 00:47:05,055
FUNDS WILL CONTINUE AS PART OF 

1436
00:47:05,055 --> 00:47:09,660
THAT. I THINK I, I UNDERSTAND 

1437
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:10,327
IT'S PART OF THE AGENCY 

1438
00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:11,495
SUPPORTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO 

1439
00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:14,565
CONFIRM, BECAUSE WE'RE CALLING 

1440
00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:16,099
IT DIFFERENT THINGS OR MAYBE THE

1441
00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:16,833
AGENCY SUPPORTS HAS A NUMBER OF 

1442
00:47:16,833 --> 00:47:19,269
THINGS, INCLUDING STABILIZATION 

1443
00:47:19,269 --> 00:47:20,871
FUND. CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT 

1444
00:47:20,871 --> 00:47:22,940
PIECE AND THEN ADDRESS 

1445
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:24,675
INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEBT 

1446
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:25,342
RESTRUCTURING, HOW THAT'S GOING?

1447
00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:27,578
AND THEN THE STABILIZATION FUNDS

1448
00:47:27,578 --> 00:47:30,781
AND WHAT WHAT HAS THAT GONE? 

1449
00:47:30,781 --> 00:47:32,649
WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN TERMS OF 

1450
00:47:32,649 --> 00:47:34,418
ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE UNITS?

1451
00:47:34,418 --> 00:47:36,920
WHERE ARE WE? 

1452
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,655
-- GREAT. YES. SO TO START, DID 

1453
00:47:38,655 --> 00:47:40,791
YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? THE 

1454
00:47:40,791 --> 00:47:41,158
FIRST THE LAST. 

1455
00:47:41,158 --> 00:47:42,459
-- QUESTION I CAN START WITH THE

1456
00:47:42,459 --> 00:47:46,563
LAST QUESTION. THERE IS NO 

1457
00:47:46,563 --> 00:47:49,266
REDUCTION TO THE AGENCY SUPPORTS

1458
00:47:49,266 --> 00:47:51,435
EFFORTS. THE THE THE URGENT 

1459
00:47:51,435 --> 00:47:54,238
OPERATING SUPPORT PROGRAM IS NOT

1460
00:47:54,238 --> 00:47:58,342
IN 2027. IT WAS JUST WITH 2025 

1461
00:47:58,342 --> 00:47:59,543
AND 2026. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT 

1462
00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:05,415
AS A BASELINE CHANGE. BUT THE 

1463
00:48:05,415 --> 00:48:07,417
CORE STANDARD OF THE AGENCY 

1464
00:48:07,417 --> 00:48:08,919
SUPPORTS HAD NO REDUCTION. IN 

1465
00:48:08,919 --> 00:48:10,921
FACT, HAD AN INFLATIONARY 

1466
00:48:10,921 --> 00:48:11,188
INCREASE. 

1467
00:48:11,188 --> 00:48:13,824
-- SORRY. SO WE'RE NOT 

1468
00:48:13,824 --> 00:48:14,992
CONTINUING THE STABILIZATION 

1469
00:48:14,992 --> 00:48:17,327
SUPPORTS WE PUT IN IN 25 AND 26.

1470
00:48:17,327 --> 00:48:19,730
-- THOSE WERE THOSE WERE SORT OF

1471
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:21,498
THE FIRST RELEASE WE CALLED A 

1472
00:48:21,498 --> 00:48:22,733
ONE TIME RELEASE. AND THEN THE 

1473
00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:24,134
SECOND, WE NOW CALL IT A 

1474
00:48:24,134 --> 00:48:25,702
PERIODIC. WE DON'T CURRENTLY 

1475
00:48:25,702 --> 00:48:27,004
HAVE A PLAN FOR A THIRD RELEASE.

1476
00:48:27,004 --> 00:48:29,039
IT MAY BE NECESSARY. WE'RE 

1477
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:31,508
CERTAINLY RECEIVING ADVOCACY 

1478
00:48:31,508 --> 00:48:32,943
FROM PROVIDERS ABOUT ONGOING 

1479
00:48:32,943 --> 00:48:35,545
NEEDS. IN MY MIND, THE NUMBER 

1480
00:48:35,545 --> 00:48:37,047
ONE OUTCOME THAT SHOWS THAT 

1481
00:48:37,047 --> 00:48:38,348
THOSE INVESTMENTS HAVE BEEN 

1482
00:48:38,348 --> 00:48:39,916
SUCCESSFUL IS THAT WE HAVE NOT 

1483
00:48:39,916 --> 00:48:40,851
SEEN A COLLAPSE OF A MAJOR 

1484
00:48:40,851 --> 00:48:43,153
ORGANIZATION IN OUR CITY. 

1485
00:48:43,153 --> 00:48:45,122
THAT'S WHAT YOU HOPE TO AVOID. 

1486
00:48:45,122 --> 00:48:46,390
IN SPEAKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES 

1487
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:50,427
IN LOS ANGELES, THE PROCESS OF 

1488
00:48:50,427 --> 00:48:51,061
MOVING THROUGH RECEIVERSHIP WITH

1489
00:48:51,061 --> 00:48:53,130
A MAJOR HOUSING PORTFOLIO IS 

1490
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:54,731
EVEN MORE COSTLY THAN 

1491
00:48:54,731 --> 00:48:56,633
MAINTAINING IT. IT IS INCREDIBLY

1492
00:48:56,633 --> 00:48:58,101
STRESSFUL AND DIFFICULT FOR THE 

1493
00:48:58,101 --> 00:48:59,870
TENANTS, FOR THE STAFF. WE 

1494
00:48:59,870 --> 00:49:01,438
REALLY WANT TO AVOID THAT. SO WE

1495
00:49:01,438 --> 00:49:03,473
HAVE AVOIDED THAT. THAT'S THE 

1496
00:49:03,473 --> 00:49:10,013
NUMBER ONE STORY BUT THE OTHER 

1497
00:49:10,013 --> 00:49:10,647
INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT. 

1498
00:49:10,647 --> 00:49:14,084
SO DEBT RESTRUCTURING, THOSE 

1499
00:49:14,084 --> 00:49:15,786
PROJECTS ARE JUST FINISHING UP 

1500
00:49:15,786 --> 00:49:16,353
NOW WITH THEIR UNDERWRITING 

1501
00:49:16,353 --> 00:49:17,654
EFFORTS. SO WE MADE THOSE AWARDS

1502
00:49:17,654 --> 00:49:19,489
AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AND 

1503
00:49:19,489 --> 00:49:20,657
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO GET THEM 

1504
00:49:20,657 --> 00:49:24,194
IN PLACE, WORKING OUT KEY DEAL 

1505
00:49:24,194 --> 00:49:25,963
POINTS BECAUSE IT'S A NEW 

1506
00:49:25,963 --> 00:49:26,797
TYPOLOGY. THERE HAVE BEEN 

1507
00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:27,898
THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND 

1508
00:49:27,898 --> 00:49:30,133
FORTH WITH OUR PROVIDERS ABOUT 

1509
00:49:30,133 --> 00:49:32,135
HOW TO WRITE THOSE DEALS. WE 

1510
00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:34,905
ARE, I THINK, GETTING CLOSE TO 

1511
00:49:34,905 --> 00:49:35,539
BEING COMPLETELY DONE WITH ALL 

1512
00:49:35,539 --> 00:49:39,710
OF THOSE LOAN DOCUMENTS AND THE 

1513
00:49:39,710 --> 00:49:41,178
REALLY GREAT THING ABOUT THOSE 

1514
00:49:41,178 --> 00:49:42,012
TYPES OF INVESTMENTS IS THAT THE

1515
00:49:42,012 --> 00:49:45,048
FUNDS FLOW OUT VERY QUICKLY FROM

1516
00:49:45,048 --> 00:49:47,884
THE CITY TO THE PROVIDERS, AS 

1517
00:49:47,884 --> 00:49:49,286
THEY'RE USED TO IMMEDIATELY 

1518
00:49:49,286 --> 00:49:51,121
WRITE DOWN PRIVATE DEBT. SO 

1519
00:49:51,121 --> 00:49:53,323
THOSE FUNDS FLOW VERY FAST. 

1520
00:49:53,323 --> 00:49:54,725
IT'S WORKING OUT ALL THE DEALS,

1521
00:49:54,725 --> 00:49:56,927
THE DEAL TERMS, IN TERMS OF WHAT

1522
00:49:56,927 --> 00:49:58,662
INCOME LEVELS ARE CHANGING IN 

1523
00:49:58,662 --> 00:50:00,897
THE BUILDING AND WHY, FOR WHAT 

1524
00:50:00,897 --> 00:50:03,800
APARTMENTS, AND THEN OTHER 

1525
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,836
DETAILS AROUND CASH FLOW. WE 

1526
00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:08,005
EXPECT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW 

1527
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:09,840
THOSE PROJECTS ARE OPERATING 

1528
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,541
NEXT YEAR. YOU'D REALLY WANT TO

1529
00:50:11,541 --> 00:50:14,344
SEE A CHANGE IN CASH FLOW. 

1530
00:50:14,344 --> 00:50:15,345
THAT'S THE GOAL. SO THESE ARE 

1531
00:50:15,345 --> 00:50:17,280
ALL NEGATIVE CASH FLOW BUILDINGS

1532
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,382
AS OF WHEN THEY APPLIED TO US. 

1533
00:50:18,382 --> 00:50:20,117
WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT NEGATIVE 

1534
00:50:20,117 --> 00:50:23,086
CASH FLOW DECREASING AND 

1535
00:50:23,086 --> 00:50:24,821
POTENTIALLY MOVING OVER INTO 

1536
00:50:24,821 --> 00:50:26,256
POSITIVE CASH FLOW. THAT IS THE 

1537
00:50:26,256 --> 00:50:29,760
GOAL. SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU

1538
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,395
NEXT YEAR WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE 

1539
00:50:31,395 --> 00:50:33,096
BIT MORE TIME TO ASSESS HOW 

1540
00:50:33,096 --> 00:50:36,032
THOSE INVESTMENTS HAVE LANDED 

1541
00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:38,034
WITH STABILIZATION FUNDS. SO 

1542
00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:39,970
WE'VE WE'VE RELEASED, YOU 

1543
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:41,705
KNOW, THE FIRST 40 MILLION 

1544
00:50:41,705 --> 00:50:42,406
PROJECTS ARE STILL SPENDING. 

1545
00:50:42,406 --> 00:50:45,108
THEY HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31st, 

1546
00:50:45,108 --> 00:50:48,111
2027 TO FULLY SPEND DOWN THOSE 

1547
00:50:48,111 --> 00:50:50,747
RESOURCES. MANY FOLKS, MANY 

1548
00:50:50,747 --> 00:50:53,383
PROVIDERS USED THOSE RESOURCES 

1549
00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:56,019
TO COVER INSURANCE PREMIUMS, 

1550
00:50:56,019 --> 00:50:57,687
WHICH HAVE JUST CONTINUED TO BE 

1551
00:50:57,687 --> 00:51:00,223
INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR 

1552
00:51:00,223 --> 00:51:02,092
ORGANIZATIONS TO MANAGE AS THEIR

1553
00:51:02,092 --> 00:51:04,761
PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP. MANY ARE 

1554
00:51:04,761 --> 00:51:06,663
AVOIDING TAPPING IN BECAUSE 

1555
00:51:06,663 --> 00:51:08,031
DEDUCTIBLES ARE SO HIGH. SO 

1556
00:51:08,031 --> 00:51:09,132
THEY'RE COVERING A LOT OF 

1557
00:51:09,132 --> 00:51:11,268
MAINTENANCE COSTS WITHOUT 

1558
00:51:11,268 --> 00:51:13,370
TAPPING INTO INSURANCE, TRYING 

1559
00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:15,639
TO AVOID INCREASING PREMIUMS 

1560
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,407
EVEN FURTHER. SO THERE'S THIS 

1561
00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:19,109
DECISION THAT MANY OF THEM ARE 

1562
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:20,243
FACING ON A DAILY BASIS. DO I 

1563
00:51:20,243 --> 00:51:22,245
TRY AND GET INSURANCE TO COVER 

1564
00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:23,380
THIS, OR AM I MANAGING IT ON MY 

1565
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:25,048
OWN? HOW DO I KIND OF MAINTAIN 

1566
00:51:25,048 --> 00:51:26,883
THIS DELICATE BALANCE ON OUR 

1567
00:51:26,883 --> 00:51:30,120
INSURANCE COSTS? MANY OF THOSE 

1568
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,689
STABILIZATION FUNDS HAVE GONE TO

1569
00:51:32,689 --> 00:51:33,190
SUPPORT THOSE EXPENSES. 

1570
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:35,058
MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS OF 

1571
00:51:35,058 --> 00:51:37,794
APARTMENTS. THAT IS CRITICAL. 

1572
00:51:37,794 --> 00:51:40,063
SOME STAFFING WE LEARNED FROM 

1573
00:51:40,063 --> 00:51:43,133
AND RENT ASSISTANCE WE WE DID 

1574
00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:45,335
BRING THROUGH AFTER THE FIRST 

1575
00:51:45,335 --> 00:51:45,836
ROUND OF STABILIZATION 

1576
00:51:45,836 --> 00:51:47,637
INVESTMENTS, WE HAD A PROVIDER 

1577
00:51:47,637 --> 00:51:49,172
ROUNDTABLE, AND WE INVITED A FEW

1578
00:51:49,172 --> 00:51:51,441
OF THE PROVIDERS TO OFFER SOME 

1579
00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:52,943
OF THEIR LESSONS LEARNED AND 

1580
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:54,177
BEST PRACTICES FROM THE 

1581
00:51:54,177 --> 00:51:56,646
INVESTMENTS THAT THEY MADE. ONE 

1582
00:51:56,646 --> 00:51:57,747
ORGANIZATION SHARED QUITE A LOT 

1583
00:51:57,747 --> 00:51:59,182
ABOUT HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO PARE

1584
00:51:59,182 --> 00:52:01,551
THESE OPERATING STABILIZATION 

1585
00:52:01,551 --> 00:52:03,954
INVESTMENTS WITH PRIVATE 

1586
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:04,521
FUNDRAISING TO IMPROVE THE 

1587
00:52:04,521 --> 00:52:06,022
SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THEIR 

1588
00:52:06,022 --> 00:52:08,625
BUILDINGS. WITH NEW SECURITY 

1589
00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:11,094
INVESTMENTS, BOTH HARDWARE AS 

1590
00:52:11,094 --> 00:52:13,497
WELL AS STAFFING TO SERVE AS 

1591
00:52:13,497 --> 00:52:16,633
MORE OF A LEADERSHIP. THEY HAD, 

1592
00:52:16,633 --> 00:52:18,435
YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SECURITY 

1593
00:52:18,435 --> 00:52:20,837
STAFFING, INCLUDING KIND OF ONE 

1594
00:52:20,837 --> 00:52:22,439
CENTRAL, RESPONSIBLE PERSON WHO 

1595
00:52:22,439 --> 00:52:24,541
WAS COORDINATING ACROSS THEIR 

1596
00:52:24,541 --> 00:52:27,110
PORTFOLIO TO RESPOND TO URGENT 

1597
00:52:27,110 --> 00:52:28,578
SITUATIONS AND KIND OF BE THAT 

1598
00:52:28,578 --> 00:52:30,647
POINT PERSON FOR STAFF. AND THEN

1599
00:52:30,647 --> 00:52:33,483
ANOTHER ORGANIZATION CAME AND 

1600
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:37,120
PRESENTED ABOUT THEIR INNOVATIVE

1601
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,855
WORK TO BRING RENTAL ASSISTANCE 

1602
00:52:38,855 --> 00:52:42,459
INTO THEIR ORGANIZATION, WHILE 

1603
00:52:42,459 --> 00:52:43,059
ALSO STRONGLY ENCOURAGING AND 

1604
00:52:43,059 --> 00:52:44,594
INCENTIVIZING TENANTS TO CATCH 

1605
00:52:44,594 --> 00:52:47,564
UP ON RENT THAT THEY WERE 

1606
00:52:47,564 --> 00:52:50,200
BEHIND. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN

1607
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,437
YOU BECOME SO FAR BEHIND IN RENT

1608
00:52:54,437 --> 00:52:56,006
TO START WORKING ON THAT WHEN 

1609
00:52:56,006 --> 00:52:57,507
YOU HAVE A VERY, VERY LOW 

1610
00:52:57,507 --> 00:52:58,608
INCOME, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF

1611
00:52:58,608 --> 00:53:01,611
RESOURCES TO BRING TO BEAR. IT 

1612
00:53:01,611 --> 00:53:04,214
CAN FEEL SUPER DEFEATING. THERE 

1613
00:53:04,214 --> 00:53:06,249
WAS ONE ORGANIZATION THAT 

1614
00:53:06,249 --> 00:53:08,151
BROUGHT THESE RESOURCES IN TO 

1615
00:53:08,151 --> 00:53:10,253
TEST SOME NEW MODELS. SOME OF 

1616
00:53:10,253 --> 00:53:12,822
THAT MEANT VERY ASSERTIVE 

1617
00:53:12,822 --> 00:53:14,391
OUTREACH AND PROACTIVE WORK WITH

1618
00:53:14,391 --> 00:53:16,459
INDIVIDUAL TENANTS WHO ARE IN 

1619
00:53:16,459 --> 00:53:19,496
DEEP ARREARS TO TEST WHETHER 

1620
00:53:19,496 --> 00:53:20,363
MOTIVATIONAL INTERVIEWING AND 

1621
00:53:20,363 --> 00:53:21,765
STRONG SUPPORT OF THOSE FOLKS 

1622
00:53:21,765 --> 00:53:23,466
COULD HELP TO ENCOURAGE 

1623
00:53:23,466 --> 00:53:25,402
DIFFERENT BEHAVIOR. AND IT DID 

1624
00:53:25,402 --> 00:53:28,738
WORK IN A NUMBER OF 

1625
00:53:28,738 --> 00:53:29,706
CIRCUMSTANCES. IT DIDN'T WORK 

1626
00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:31,975
FOR EVERYONE, BUT THEY SAW SOME 

1627
00:53:31,975 --> 00:53:33,743
SUCCESS ENOUGH THAT IT WAS WORTH

1628
00:53:33,743 --> 00:53:35,545
THEM REPLICATING AND CONTINUING 

1629
00:53:35,545 --> 00:53:37,113
TO TEST. SO THESE WERE SOME OF 

1630
00:53:37,113 --> 00:53:38,515
THE MODELS AND CONCEPTS THAT 

1631
00:53:38,515 --> 00:53:40,517
WERE BROUGHT FORWARD IN ORDER TO

1632
00:53:40,517 --> 00:53:41,851
ENCOURAGE OTHER PROVIDERS TO TRY

1633
00:53:41,851 --> 00:53:43,553
SOME OF THESE INNOVATIVE 

1634
00:53:43,553 --> 00:53:45,956
APPROACHES. IF THEY COULD. 

1635
00:53:45,956 --> 00:53:48,024
SOMETIMES OTHER ORGANIZATIONS 

1636
00:53:48,024 --> 00:53:49,960
WON'T HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS TO 

1637
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,594
PRIVATE FUNDRAISING AS OTHERS. 

1638
00:53:50,594 --> 00:53:52,028
THERE ARE DIFFERENTIALS ACROSS 

1639
00:53:52,028 --> 00:53:54,064
THE COMMUNITY AND HOW SUCCESSFUL

1640
00:53:54,064 --> 00:53:54,931
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ARE ON 

1641
00:53:54,931 --> 00:53:57,334
THAT FRONT. BUT IT WAS STILL 

1642
00:53:57,334 --> 00:53:58,768
INSPIRING. MANY ORGANIZATIONS 

1643
00:53:58,768 --> 00:54:00,136
WERE REALLY ENGAGED IN THE 

1644
00:54:00,136 --> 00:54:01,905
QUESTION AND ANSWER, AND 

1645
00:54:01,905 --> 00:54:02,672
INTERESTED IN FINDING WAYS THAT 

1646
00:54:02,672 --> 00:54:04,240
THEY COULD BRING THESE LESSONS 

1647
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,076
BACK TO THEIR ORGANIZATIONS TO 

1648
00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:08,244
TRY AND TEST AND IMPROVE THEIR 

1649
00:54:08,244 --> 00:54:10,347
OPERATIONS. 

1650
00:54:10,347 --> 00:54:12,315
-- THANK YOU, DIRECTOR LARSEN, 

1651
00:54:12,315 --> 00:54:14,351
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? 

1652
00:54:14,351 --> 00:54:15,952
DIRECTOR, PLEASE, PLEASE. 

1653
00:54:15,952 --> 00:54:17,787
-- SORRY, I'M DOING CONVERSATION

1654
00:54:17,787 --> 00:54:17,988
HERE. 

1655
00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:19,723
-- SO IN SO MANY DAYS IN A ROW, 

1656
00:54:19,723 --> 00:54:21,524
YOU KNOW, MY, YOU KNOW, MY, YOU 

1657
00:54:21,524 --> 00:54:22,359
KNOW, MY SIGNALS WHEN I WANT TO 

1658
00:54:22,359 --> 00:54:23,994
SAY SOMETHING, I JUST WANT TO 

1659
00:54:23,994 --> 00:54:25,495
SORT OF PULL BACK AT A, AT A 

1660
00:54:25,495 --> 00:54:26,830
HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE YOU WERE 

1661
00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:29,299
ASKING ABOUT LIKE, IS THIS A 

1662
00:54:29,299 --> 00:54:29,933
REDUCTION IN OPERATIONAL SUPPORT

1663
00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:31,968
AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS? 

1664
00:54:31,968 --> 00:54:33,570
OVERALL, WHAT WE'RE TALKING 

1665
00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:35,639
ABOUT HERE IS NOT ANY CHANGES IN

1666
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:39,175
OSE BUDGET GOING UP OR DOWN, BUT

1667
00:54:39,175 --> 00:54:41,077
DIRECTOR LARSEN AND HER TEAM 

1668
00:54:41,077 --> 00:54:44,547
HAVING TO SOMETIMES MAKE CHOICES

1669
00:54:44,547 --> 00:54:46,416
ABOUT WHERE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE

1670
00:54:46,416 --> 00:54:48,985
ALLOCATING MORE FUNDING TO NEW 

1671
00:54:48,985 --> 00:54:49,986
UNITS VERSUS SUPPORTING EXISTING

1672
00:54:49,986 --> 00:54:52,188
UNITS. AND THIS IS A DYNAMIC 

1673
00:54:52,188 --> 00:54:53,590
SITUATION THAT IS GOING TO 

1674
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:54,991
CONTINUE TO HAVE TO BE 

1675
00:54:54,991 --> 00:54:56,293
MONITORED. AND I KNOW THAT 

1676
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:57,861
THEY'RE TAKING A VERY 

1677
00:54:57,861 --> 00:54:59,295
THOUGHTFUL APPROACH OF HOW WE 

1678
00:54:59,295 --> 00:55:01,965
ARE LOOKING AT BOTH LIKE FUTURE 

1679
00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:03,333
AND FORWARD COMMITMENTS FOR 

1680
00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:05,168
CAPITAL PROJECTS, AS WELL AS 

1681
00:55:05,168 --> 00:55:06,436
HELPING SUPPORT THOSE AGENCIES. 

1682
00:55:06,436 --> 00:55:07,804
AND THEN WE TO LOOK FORWARD TO 

1683
00:55:07,804 --> 00:55:09,105
SORT OF HEARING MORE ABOUT HOW 

1684
00:55:09,105 --> 00:55:11,408
THIS SORT OF INFLUX AND 

1685
00:55:11,408 --> 00:55:13,343
OPERATIONAL AGENCY SUPPORTS THAT

1686
00:55:13,343 --> 00:55:16,713
HAPPEN THIS YEAR ARE WORKING TO 

1687
00:55:16,713 --> 00:55:18,815
STABILIZE THOSE THOSE UNITS 

1688
00:55:18,815 --> 00:55:19,883
-- MAY I CHAIR? 

1689
00:55:19,883 --> 00:55:20,250
-- YES, PLEASE. 

1690
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:23,486
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 

1691
00:55:23,486 --> 00:55:26,389
DIRECTOR. I THIS COUNCIL, MANY 

1692
00:55:26,389 --> 00:55:27,424
OF US WERE HERE A COUPLE YEARS 

1693
00:55:27,424 --> 00:55:29,659
AGO WHEN WE WERE SUPPORTING THE 

1694
00:55:29,659 --> 00:55:31,327
STABILIZATION FUNDS, AND 

1695
00:55:31,327 --> 00:55:32,295
ACTUALLY WE WERE ADVOCATING AND 

1696
00:55:32,295 --> 00:55:34,631
I KNOW I WAS ADVOCATING FOR 

1697
00:55:34,631 --> 00:55:35,699
ALLOWING THE PROVIDERS TO BE 

1698
00:55:35,699 --> 00:55:37,534
ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE, THE 

1699
00:55:37,534 --> 00:55:38,635
MONEY FOR SECURITY, BECAUSE WE 

1700
00:55:38,635 --> 00:55:41,204
KNEW THAT WAS AN ISSUE. AND 

1701
00:55:41,204 --> 00:55:43,973
THERE IN THEIR BUILDINGS. AND WE

1702
00:55:43,973 --> 00:55:46,443
WANTED TO MAKE SURE RESIDENTS 

1703
00:55:46,443 --> 00:55:47,644
AND THE STAFF THAT WERE WORKING 

1704
00:55:47,644 --> 00:55:49,579
IN THE BUILDING ARE SAFE. THAT 

1705
00:55:49,579 --> 00:55:54,317
IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I GUESS 

1706
00:55:54,317 --> 00:55:54,784
MY CONCERN IS NOT THE 

1707
00:55:54,784 --> 00:55:56,853
CONTINUATION OF THOSE 

1708
00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:58,121
STABILIZATION FUNDS IN A WAY 

1709
00:55:58,121 --> 00:55:58,988
THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT, 

1710
00:55:58,988 --> 00:56:00,690
DIRECTOR, YOU JUST SAID ABOUT WE

1711
00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:02,759
NEED TO MAINTAIN THE UNITS WE 

1712
00:56:02,759 --> 00:56:05,428
ALREADY HAVE SO WE DON'T LOSE 

1713
00:56:05,428 --> 00:56:08,331
THOSE. AND DIRECTOR LARSEN, YOU 

1714
00:56:08,331 --> 00:56:09,566
EXPLAINED VERY WELL IN TERMS OF 

1715
00:56:09,566 --> 00:56:11,000
WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE 

1716
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,970
BECAUSE THEN WHERE WILL WE BE IF

1717
00:56:13,970 --> 00:56:15,171
WE JUST FOCUS ON CREATING NEW 

1718
00:56:15,171 --> 00:56:16,740
UNITS, BUT WE START TO LOSE THE 

1719
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:18,074
ONES WE'VE ALREADY. IT'S GOING

1720
00:56:18,074 --> 00:56:19,743
TO COST MORE THAT WE'VE ALREADY

1721
00:56:19,743 --> 00:56:21,010
CREATED. EXCUSE ME. IT WILL COST

1722
00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:22,479
MORE IN THE LONG RUN. AND SO 

1723
00:56:22,479 --> 00:56:24,214
THIS IS WHY I'M REALLY FOCUSED 

1724
00:56:24,214 --> 00:56:26,883
ON THIS PIECE ON THE 

1725
00:56:26,883 --> 00:56:28,952
STABILIZATION FUNDING, SO THAT 

1726
00:56:28,952 --> 00:56:31,521
THE CURRENT PRIVATE PROVIDERS 

1727
00:56:31,521 --> 00:56:32,889
ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE THAT

1728
00:56:32,889 --> 00:56:36,493
THOSE UNITS THAT WE HAVE STAY, 

1729
00:56:36,493 --> 00:56:39,562
YOU KNOW, USABLE AND, AND THAT 

1730
00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,031
WE'RE NOT IN THIS SPACE WHERE 

1731
00:56:42,031 --> 00:56:43,566
WE'RE LOSING UNITS. BUT I AM, 

1732
00:56:43,566 --> 00:56:45,235
AND I APPRECIATE YOU WENT INTO 

1733
00:56:45,235 --> 00:56:47,604
THE WEEDS. YOU KNOW, ME, 

1734
00:56:47,604 --> 00:56:48,638
DIRECTOR LARSEN, AND WE CAN TAKE

1735
00:56:48,638 --> 00:56:49,906
IT OFFLINE. BUT I REALLY WANT TO

1736
00:56:49,906 --> 00:56:52,008
HEAR I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE 

1737
00:56:52,008 --> 00:56:54,477
ROUNDTABLE, AND I WANT TO HEAR 

1738
00:56:54,477 --> 00:56:56,212
MORE ABOUT THE CREATIVE WAYS 

1739
00:56:56,212 --> 00:56:58,014
THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING, TRYING

1740
00:56:58,014 --> 00:57:01,251
TO ALSO ADDRESS THE BEHAVIOR 

1741
00:57:01,251 --> 00:57:03,052
CHANGES WITHIN THE RESIDENTS IN 

1742
00:57:03,052 --> 00:57:04,754
THOSE UNITS, BECAUSE THIS HAS 

1743
00:57:04,754 --> 00:57:06,322
ALSO LED TO SOME ISSUES WITH 

1744
00:57:06,322 --> 00:57:07,757
THOSE UNITS. AND WE WANT TO MAKE

1745
00:57:07,757 --> 00:57:09,459
SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT

1746
00:57:09,459 --> 00:57:10,794
AS WELL. SO I WOULD ACTUALLY 

1747
00:57:10,794 --> 00:57:12,662
LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT 

1748
00:57:12,662 --> 00:57:17,033
OFFLINE AND THAT WAS REALLY ALL 

1749
00:57:17,033 --> 00:57:18,201
THE QUESTIONS I HAD. JUST TO 

1750
00:57:18,201 --> 00:57:20,069
REITERATE, ON THE STABILIZATION 

1751
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:22,505
FUNDING, HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. 

1752
00:57:22,505 --> 00:57:23,807
AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE YOU 

1753
00:57:23,807 --> 00:57:27,577
HAVE THE CORE. I HEARD YOU SAY 

1754
00:57:27,577 --> 00:57:29,479
WE HAVE THE CORE SERVICES ARE 

1755
00:57:29,479 --> 00:57:31,815
STILL THERE, BUT WILL THAT MEET 

1756
00:57:31,815 --> 00:57:33,149
THE NEED? THAT IS THE QUESTION 

1757
00:57:33,149 --> 00:57:36,186
THAT I HAVE. SO YOU CAN. 

1758
00:57:36,186 --> 00:57:37,821
-- YES, WE HAVE THAT QUESTION 

1759
00:57:37,821 --> 00:57:39,222
TOO. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK 

1760
00:57:39,222 --> 00:57:41,591
WITH OUR PROVIDERS, REVIEW THE 

1761
00:57:41,591 --> 00:57:44,861
DATA AND EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE, 

1762
00:57:44,861 --> 00:57:46,296
WE WILL INFORM OUR INVESTMENT 

1763
00:57:46,296 --> 00:57:49,399
DECISIONS INTO THE NEXT YEAR 

1764
00:57:49,399 --> 00:57:49,866
AROUND HOW WE BALANCE 

1765
00:57:49,866 --> 00:57:52,235
STABILIZATION, INVESTING IN OUR 

1766
00:57:52,235 --> 00:57:53,903
PORTFOLIO PRESERVATION, DEBT 

1767
00:57:53,903 --> 00:57:55,138
RESTRUCTURING, AND THEN 

1768
00:57:55,138 --> 00:57:56,372
INVESTING IN, IN NEW PRODUCTION.

1769
00:57:56,372 --> 00:57:58,508
SO WE HAVE SOME MONTHS TO GET 

1770
00:57:58,508 --> 00:58:00,276
THERE. BUT WE, WE DEFINITELY ARE

1771
00:58:00,276 --> 00:58:01,544
HEARING AND SEEING THE NEED. 

1772
00:58:01,544 --> 00:58:02,545
-- THANK YOU. AND THE LAST THING

1773
00:58:02,545 --> 00:58:04,614
I'LL SAY IS I WANT TO HEAR 

1774
00:58:04,614 --> 00:58:06,916
ABOUT YOUR VACANCIES AND HOW 

1775
00:58:06,916 --> 00:58:08,051
MANY UNITS ARE OFFLINE BECAUSE 

1776
00:58:08,051 --> 00:58:09,552
THEY NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND 

1777
00:58:09,552 --> 00:58:12,322
THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE 

1778
00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:14,624
THOSE, THOSE DATA POINTS HELP TO

1779
00:58:14,624 --> 00:58:18,628
INFORM ALSO POLICY AROUND THIS. 

1780
00:58:18,628 --> 00:58:19,829
SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK

1781
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:21,464
YOU CHAIR. 

1782
00:58:21,464 --> 00:58:22,031
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

1783
00:58:22,031 --> 00:58:22,866
RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

1784
00:58:22,866 --> 00:58:24,367
FOLLOWED BY RINCK. SAKA AND 

1785
00:58:24,367 --> 00:58:26,269
KETTLE. 

1786
00:58:26,269 --> 00:58:26,870
-- THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU 

1787
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:29,439
CHAIR PRESENTERS THANK YOU 

1788
00:58:29,439 --> 00:58:30,106
COLLEAGUES. I'M GOING TO JUST 

1789
00:58:30,106 --> 00:58:31,708
START OFF WITH SOME COMMENTS AND

1790
00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:35,678
THEN A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE, 

1791
00:58:35,678 --> 00:58:37,747
JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD 

1792
00:58:37,747 --> 00:58:40,350
WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS BUDGET.

1793
00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:44,187
AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT HAS 

1794
00:58:44,187 --> 00:58:45,755
BEEN DOING. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE

1795
00:58:45,755 --> 00:58:48,258
HAVE BEEN LEADING THE NATION IN 

1796
00:58:48,258 --> 00:58:50,193
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION 

1797
00:58:50,193 --> 00:58:50,894
FOR QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME, 

1798
00:58:50,894 --> 00:58:53,796
WHICH IS AMAZING. AND THAT'S 

1799
00:58:53,796 --> 00:58:55,298
THROUGH OUR COMMITMENT AND OUR 

1800
00:58:55,298 --> 00:58:58,568
INVESTMENT. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN 

1801
00:58:58,568 --> 00:59:02,171
WITHOUT DOLLARS TO INVEST. AND 

1802
00:59:02,171 --> 00:59:04,807
SO WE'VE MADE ENORMOUS GAINS IN

1803
00:59:04,807 --> 00:59:06,175
THAT REGARD. AND, YOU KNOW, 

1804
00:59:06,175 --> 00:59:07,977
YOU'VE BEEN DESCRIBING SOME OF 

1805
00:59:07,977 --> 00:59:10,914
THE HEADWINDS THAT WE'RE FACING

1806
00:59:10,914 --> 00:59:14,017
AND CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SLOW

1807
00:59:14,017 --> 00:59:16,286
DOWN. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO. 

1808
00:59:16,286 --> 00:59:18,755
AND WE HAVE BEEN ON THE NEW 

1809
00:59:18,755 --> 00:59:20,423
PRODUCTION BECAUSE OF THOSE 

1810
00:59:20,423 --> 00:59:21,090
HEADWINDS AND BECAUSE OF THE 

1811
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:23,126
NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT 

1812
00:59:23,126 --> 00:59:24,494
PRESERVATION. AND I THINK 

1813
00:59:24,494 --> 00:59:27,463
THAT'S WELL WARRANTED. AS YOU 

1814
00:59:27,463 --> 00:59:28,965
MENTIONED, DUE TO THINGS THAT 

1815
00:59:28,965 --> 00:59:30,033
NOT JUST LOCALLY BUT ACROSS THE 

1816
00:59:30,033 --> 00:59:32,502
COUNTRY, THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING

1817
00:59:32,502 --> 00:59:34,037
PROVIDERS HAVE BEEN FACING, AND 

1818
00:59:34,037 --> 00:59:36,072
CERTAINLY AGREE THAT HAVING A 

1819
00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:38,508
MAJOR PROVIDER GO THROUGH 

1820
00:59:38,508 --> 00:59:40,376
RECEIVERSHIP WOULD END UP 

1821
00:59:40,376 --> 00:59:43,046
COSTING MORE IN THE LONG RUN. SO

1822
00:59:43,046 --> 00:59:46,683
I, I ALSO JUST THINK THAT IT'S 

1823
00:59:46,683 --> 00:59:47,283
IMPORTANT FOR US TO EVERYBODY 

1824
00:59:47,283 --> 00:59:50,353
LOVES A RIBBON CUTTING, BUT 

1825
00:59:50,353 --> 00:59:51,487
PRESERVATION IS CRITICAL. AND I 

1826
00:59:51,487 --> 00:59:53,790
THINK QUALITY FOR ME IS PERHAPS 

1827
00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,558
MORE IMPORTANT THAN QUALITY. I 

1828
00:59:55,558 --> 00:59:57,126
THINK WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON ON THE

1829
00:59:57,126 --> 01:00:01,664
PEOPLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, 

1830
01:00:01,664 --> 01:00:02,298
YOU KNOW, WE TALK SO MUCH ABOUT 

1831
01:00:02,298 --> 01:00:04,167
UNITS. IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE. IT IS

1832
01:00:04,167 --> 01:00:04,734
ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE 

1833
01:00:04,734 --> 01:00:06,336
THERE, THE FAMILIES. IT IS ABOUT

1834
01:00:06,336 --> 01:00:07,437
THE WORKERS. IT SUPPORT THOSE 

1835
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,872
FAMILIES. IT IS ABOUT OUR 

1836
01:00:09,872 --> 01:00:11,374
ORGANIZATIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, I 

1837
01:00:11,374 --> 01:00:12,575
THINK THE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT

1838
01:00:12,575 --> 01:00:16,045
THIS A LOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE 

1839
01:00:16,045 --> 01:00:16,946
THE FOCUS ON UNITS CAN BE SORT 

1840
01:00:16,946 --> 01:00:21,017
OF LEAD TO WEIRD CONSEQUENCES OR

1841
01:00:21,017 --> 01:00:21,651
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. AND I 

1842
01:00:21,651 --> 01:00:23,219
THINK, AGAIN, WE NEED TO FOCUS 

1843
01:00:23,219 --> 01:00:26,589
ON, ON THE PEOPLE OKAY, A COUPLE

1844
01:00:26,589 --> 01:00:31,194
QUESTIONS. SO THE YEAR IN 

1845
01:00:31,194 --> 01:00:31,794
SUPPLEMENTAL ORDINANCE TALKS 

1846
01:00:31,794 --> 01:00:33,196
ABOUT A ONE TIME REDUCTION OF 65

1847
01:00:33,196 --> 01:00:35,665
MILLION. IN FORWARD COMMITMENTS.

1848
01:00:35,665 --> 01:00:37,500
AND I THINK FORWARD COMMITMENTS 

1849
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:39,002
IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE 

1850
01:00:39,002 --> 01:00:41,437
CONFUSING FOR A LOT OF FOLKS WHO

1851
01:00:41,437 --> 01:00:42,005
MAYBE DON'T DO AFFORDABLE 

1852
01:00:42,005 --> 01:00:45,274
HOUSING FINANCE EVERY DAY. YOU 

1853
01:00:45,274 --> 01:00:50,179
KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A. IN 

1854
01:00:50,179 --> 01:00:51,581
TERMS OF FINANCING, YOU KNOW, I 

1855
01:00:51,581 --> 01:00:52,915
KNOW THAT WE MAKE AWARDS. IT CAN

1856
01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:55,585
TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS. I KNOW 

1857
01:00:55,585 --> 01:00:58,121
THERE'S OFTEN TIMES A LARGE 

1858
01:00:58,121 --> 01:00:59,255
CASH BALANCE BECAUSE OF THAT, 

1859
01:00:59,255 --> 01:01:00,657
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, 

1860
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,392
WHEN WE MAKE AN AWARD TO STAND 

1861
01:01:02,392 --> 01:01:04,994
BEHIND IT AND TO BE ABLE TO DO 

1862
01:01:04,994 --> 01:01:06,295
THAT. AND SO I KNOW THERE'S 

1863
01:01:06,295 --> 01:01:09,399
ALWAYS SORT OF SOME CASH SORT OF

1864
01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:11,134
MANAGEMENT THAT HAPPENS WITH, 

1865
01:01:11,134 --> 01:01:13,503
OH, I DO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT 

1866
01:01:13,503 --> 01:01:15,705
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS SORT OF 

1867
01:01:15,705 --> 01:01:16,939
CHANGE JUST FOR OUR COMMUNITY 

1868
01:01:16,939 --> 01:01:18,741
TO, TO BE AWARE THAT THERE IS A 

1869
01:01:18,741 --> 01:01:21,577
CHANGE HERE WITH THIS FORWARD 

1870
01:01:21,577 --> 01:01:24,681
COMMITMENT AND WHAT THAT MEANS. 

1871
01:01:24,681 --> 01:01:26,749
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE BIT

1872
01:01:26,749 --> 01:01:29,852
OF A CONCERN AND WHICH I'LL 

1873
01:01:29,852 --> 01:01:30,987
TALK TO IN A MOMENT, BUT COULD 

1874
01:01:30,987 --> 01:01:32,088
YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

1875
01:01:32,088 --> 01:01:34,223
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DOING THIS 

1876
01:01:34,223 --> 01:01:36,959
FORWARD COMMITMENT SORT OF 

1877
01:01:36,959 --> 01:01:38,227
LOGISTICALLY, I GUESS I SORT OF 

1878
01:01:38,227 --> 01:01:39,662
SEE THIS AS A LITTLE BIT OF 

1879
01:01:39,662 --> 01:01:41,697
BORROWING FROM FUTURE YEARS OF 

1880
01:01:41,697 --> 01:01:43,800
PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX, AND I'M NOT

1881
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:44,534
OPPOSED TO THAT. BUT I JUST WANT

1882
01:01:44,534 --> 01:01:47,103
TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FULL, FULL

1883
01:01:47,103 --> 01:01:47,804
TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING

1884
01:01:47,804 --> 01:01:54,077
HERE 

1885
01:01:54,077 --> 01:01:54,677
-- SO AS IS MANAGING THE $65 

1886
01:01:54,677 --> 01:01:58,781
MILLION REALLOCATION, WE WILL BE

1887
01:01:58,781 --> 01:01:59,382
PURSUING MULTIPLE STRATEGIES. 

1888
01:01:59,382 --> 01:02:00,349
FORWARD COMMITMENTS WILL BE ONE 

1889
01:02:00,349 --> 01:02:01,984
OF THOSE STRATEGIES. BUT THERE 

1890
01:02:01,984 --> 01:02:03,686
MAY BE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE 

1891
01:02:03,686 --> 01:02:07,824
PURSUE AS WELL. WE ARE ALSO VERY

1892
01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:09,692
CAUTIOUS AND NEEDING TO BE 

1893
01:02:09,692 --> 01:02:10,860
REALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THESE 

1894
01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:12,361
TIMES THAT WE'RE IN, AS YOU 

1895
01:02:12,361 --> 01:02:14,363
HEARD ME DESCRIBE, ALL THE 

1896
01:02:14,363 --> 01:02:17,834
CONDITIONS THAT ARE CHANGING 

1897
01:02:17,834 --> 01:02:21,370
AROUND US. WE KNOW FOR SURE, AS 

1898
01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:24,140
PART OF THIS REALLOCATION, THAT 

1899
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:26,742
THE NOFA THAT WE ARE IMMINENTLY 

1900
01:02:26,742 --> 01:02:27,376
RELEASING FOR DEBT RESTRUCTURING

1901
01:02:27,376 --> 01:02:29,512
AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE

1902
01:02:29,512 --> 01:02:31,948
FUNDED WITH 2027 JUMPSTART 

1903
01:02:31,948 --> 01:02:34,617
PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX. IT WAS 

1904
01:02:34,617 --> 01:02:36,018
INITIALLY PLANNED FOR 2026. THAT

1905
01:02:36,018 --> 01:02:37,653
ONE WILL BE MOVING, SO IT'S A 

1906
01:02:37,653 --> 01:02:39,722
FORM OF FORWARD COMMIT, BUT 

1907
01:02:39,722 --> 01:02:40,990
IT'S ALSO AWARDS WILL SORT OF 

1908
01:02:40,990 --> 01:02:43,960
BE IN ACTION NEXT YEAR. AND WE 

1909
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,963
ANTICIPATE THAT IS A RELATIVELY 

1910
01:02:46,963 --> 01:02:48,664
LOW RISK USE OF THAT INVESTMENT 

1911
01:02:48,664 --> 01:02:50,800
IN THAT TIME PERIOD. THOSE 

1912
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,136
DOLLARS, AGAIN, DO MOVE VERY 

1913
01:02:53,136 --> 01:02:55,371
QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE TYPOLOGY 

1914
01:02:55,371 --> 01:02:56,906
OF THAT INVESTMENT. WE FEEL 

1915
01:02:56,906 --> 01:02:58,207
CONFIDENT THAT THAT MAKES A LOT 

1916
01:02:58,207 --> 01:03:03,045
OF SENSE FOR 2027, FOR THE 

1917
01:03:03,045 --> 01:03:03,679
REMAINING AMOUNT, WE HAVE SOME 

1918
01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:08,151
WORK TO DO. WE ARE TALKING 

1919
01:03:08,151 --> 01:03:08,718
INTERNALLY ABOUT DIFFERENT 

1920
01:03:08,718 --> 01:03:10,887
OPTIONS AND STRATEGIES. WE WILL 

1921
01:03:10,887 --> 01:03:13,556
REALLY GET TO WORK ONCE BUDGET 

1922
01:03:13,556 --> 01:03:15,191
PASSES. COUNCIL AND WE KNOW FOR 

1923
01:03:15,191 --> 01:03:17,293
SURE WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. BUT

1924
01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:18,828
THE SENIOR TEAM IS REALLY WELL 

1925
01:03:18,828 --> 01:03:21,764
AWARE AND WORKING HARD. AGAIN, 

1926
01:03:21,764 --> 01:03:24,033
THIS IS VERY ISOLATED TO RENTAL 

1927
01:03:24,033 --> 01:03:25,768
HOUSING CAPITAL. ALL OF OUR 

1928
01:03:25,768 --> 01:03:27,203
OTHER INVESTMENT TYPES AND OUR 

1929
01:03:27,203 --> 01:03:29,272
STAFF ARE PROTECTED IN THIS 

1930
01:03:29,272 --> 01:03:31,107
BUDGET. SO WE'LL BE WORKING 

1931
01:03:31,107 --> 01:03:32,508
REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR TEAM, 

1932
01:03:32,508 --> 01:03:34,143
OUR CITY BUDGET OFFICE 

1933
01:03:34,143 --> 01:03:35,511
COLLEAGUES AND THE MAYOR'S 

1934
01:03:35,511 --> 01:03:38,414
OFFICE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS 

1935
01:03:38,414 --> 01:03:39,849
IN THE RIGHT TIME THAT THEY 

1936
01:03:39,849 --> 01:03:41,717
SHOULD BE MADE. BECAUSE AGAIN, 

1937
01:03:41,717 --> 01:03:44,120
SO MUCH IS CHANGING RIGHT NOW 

1938
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,021
WITH LEVERAGE, TAX CREDIT, 

1939
01:03:45,021 --> 01:03:47,790
PRICING, INVESTOR DEMANDS, NEEDS

1940
01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:50,159
IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SECTOR

1941
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:53,129
AREA, MEDIAN INCOME SHIFTING 

1942
01:03:53,129 --> 01:03:54,197
THAT THERE'S THERE'S JUST A LOT

1943
01:03:54,197 --> 01:03:57,366
THAT WE ARE WRESTLING WITH ALL 

1944
01:03:57,366 --> 01:03:58,534
AT ONCE. AND IT'S IMPORTANT 

1945
01:03:58,534 --> 01:03:59,969
THAT WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS 

1946
01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:01,404
ABOUT THE WAY THAT OUR DOLLARS 

1947
01:04:01,404 --> 01:04:04,006
GO OUT THE DOOR INFORMED WITH 

1948
01:04:04,006 --> 01:04:06,342
THE MOST CURRENT CONDITIONS. SO 

1949
01:04:06,342 --> 01:04:09,045
WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THAT 

1950
01:04:09,045 --> 01:04:09,612
BROADER DISCUSSION DECISION 

1951
01:04:09,612 --> 01:04:11,681
ABOUT FUTURE WORK IN SEVERAL 

1952
01:04:11,681 --> 01:04:15,751
MONTHS 

1953
01:04:15,751 --> 01:04:16,919
-- AND I THINK I WANT TO JUST 

1954
01:04:16,919 --> 01:04:18,855
ADD HERE SORT OF BROADER BECAUSE

1955
01:04:18,855 --> 01:04:20,856
I'M ANTICIPATING MORE MORE 

1956
01:04:20,856 --> 01:04:23,860
QUESTIONS ON THIS AREA. I THINK 

1957
01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,328
THIS IS A A STRATEGY THAT THE 

1958
01:04:25,328 --> 01:04:26,629
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE BUDGET 

1959
01:04:26,629 --> 01:04:27,897
OFFICE KIND OF PUT FORWARD AND 

1960
01:04:27,897 --> 01:04:29,365
WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE 

1961
01:04:29,365 --> 01:04:30,766
OFFICE OF HOUSING, AND THEY'RE 

1962
01:04:30,766 --> 01:04:31,934
BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL IN 

1963
01:04:31,934 --> 01:04:34,503
THINKING THROUGH HOW TO ACTUALLY

1964
01:04:34,503 --> 01:04:35,972
IMPLEMENT THIS CHANGE. WHAT WE 

1965
01:04:35,972 --> 01:04:39,041
SEE THIS AS AN AS AN OPPORTUNITY

1966
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:41,377
TO BOTH MAINTAIN THE ONGOING 

1967
01:04:41,377 --> 01:04:41,911
INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE 

1968
01:04:41,911 --> 01:04:45,448
HOUSING. AND, FRANKLY, PRESERVE 

1969
01:04:45,448 --> 01:04:46,048
MANY OTHER INVESTMENTS ACROSS 

1970
01:04:46,048 --> 01:04:49,151
THE BUDGET IN KEY AREAS. SO WE 

1971
01:04:49,151 --> 01:04:50,720
APPRECIATE HOW THE OFFICE OF 

1972
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,521
HOUSING IS TAKING ON THIS 

1973
01:04:52,521 --> 01:04:53,589
APPROACH THIS YEAR. JUST IN 

1974
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:55,758
THEIR JUMPSTART FUNDS WITH A 

1975
01:04:55,758 --> 01:04:57,660
REALLY THOUGHTFUL AND CAUTIOUS, 

1976
01:04:57,660 --> 01:04:59,695
CAUTIOUS MANNER AND WILL BE GOOD

1977
01:04:59,695 --> 01:05:00,296
PARTNERS TOGETHER AND SORT OF 

1978
01:05:00,296 --> 01:05:01,597
THINKING THROUGH HOW TO FULLY 

1979
01:05:01,597 --> 01:05:03,399
IMPLEMENT THIS. I ALSO WANT TO 

1980
01:05:03,399 --> 01:05:05,201
BE REALLY CLEAR THAT PROJECTS 

1981
01:05:05,201 --> 01:05:06,936
THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED 

1982
01:05:06,936 --> 01:05:09,538
AWARDS WILL BE PAID FIRST. WE IN

1983
01:05:09,538 --> 01:05:10,973
THE BUDGET OFFICE AND IN 

1984
01:05:10,973 --> 01:05:11,807
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OFFICE OF 

1985
01:05:11,807 --> 01:05:15,845
HOUSING, HAVE LOOKED AT SORT OF 

1986
01:05:15,845 --> 01:05:16,612
THE ACTUAL SPEND OF EXISTING, 

1987
01:05:16,612 --> 01:05:18,648
YOU KNOW, OF EXISTING PROJECTS 

1988
01:05:18,648 --> 01:05:20,082
AND THINK WE HAVE TAKEN A 

1989
01:05:20,082 --> 01:05:22,351
RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE 

1990
01:05:22,351 --> 01:05:25,554
APPROACH. BUT I STILL, AS 

1991
01:05:25,554 --> 01:05:26,656
DIRECTOR LARSON MENTIONED, WE 

1992
01:05:26,656 --> 01:05:28,858
WILL BE CAREFULLY SORT OF 

1993
01:05:28,858 --> 01:05:29,458
MONITORING THIS AND THINKING 

1994
01:05:29,458 --> 01:05:30,826
CAREFULLY ABOUT HOW WE ARE 

1995
01:05:30,826 --> 01:05:32,461
THINKING ABOUT FORWARD 

1996
01:05:32,461 --> 01:05:33,929
COMMITMENTS, HOW MUCH NEEDS TO 

1997
01:05:33,929 --> 01:05:36,165
BE CONSIDERED FOR AGENCY 

1998
01:05:36,165 --> 01:05:36,832
SUPPORTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

1999
01:05:36,832 --> 01:05:40,870
SO THIS WILL BE A REAL TIME 

2000
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:42,705
MONITORING WITH. SO WE'LL BE 

2001
01:05:42,705 --> 01:05:44,240
MEETING REGULARLY AND WE MEET 

2002
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,641
QUARTERLY ON BUDGETING TO 

2003
01:05:45,641 --> 01:05:47,977
ACTUALS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 

2004
01:05:47,977 --> 01:05:50,846
SO BE A CAUTIOUS APPROACH 

2005
01:05:50,846 --> 01:05:54,050
-- THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE MORE

2006
01:05:54,050 --> 01:05:55,151
QUESTIONS AND I'M GOING TO BE A

2007
01:05:55,151 --> 01:05:56,819
LITTLE BIT OF A DEBBIE DOWNER. 

2008
01:05:56,819 --> 01:05:58,187
HOPEFULLY I'M NOT SORT OF 

2009
01:05:58,187 --> 01:06:00,489
JINXING ANYTHING HERE, BUT 

2010
01:06:00,489 --> 01:06:02,024
CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT WE'RE

2011
01:06:02,024 --> 01:06:04,827
SEEING SOME WARNING SIGNS IN OUR

2012
01:06:04,827 --> 01:06:06,495
ECONOMY. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, 

2013
01:06:06,495 --> 01:06:10,766
JUMP START IS STILL A RELATIVELY

2014
01:06:10,766 --> 01:06:14,070
NEW, YOU KNOW, INCOME STREAM OR 

2015
01:06:14,070 --> 01:06:16,739
REVENUE STREAM FOR US. AND WE 

2016
01:06:16,739 --> 01:06:18,407
HAVE NOT, AGAIN, SORT OF I 

2017
01:06:18,407 --> 01:06:21,143
DON'T WANT TO JINX US HERE, BUT

2018
01:06:21,143 --> 01:06:23,245
WE'VE NOT SORT OF SEEN A MAJOR 

2019
01:06:23,245 --> 01:06:24,647
DOWNTURN LIKE WE DID, YOU KNOW, 

2020
01:06:24,647 --> 01:06:26,215
PREVIOUSLY. AND, YOU KNOW, 

2021
01:06:26,215 --> 01:06:29,752
THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT. 

2022
01:06:29,752 --> 01:06:32,121
EMPLOYMENT LEAVING THE CITY. AND

2023
01:06:32,121 --> 01:06:36,492
IN SOME WAYS THAT'S HARDER THAN

2024
01:06:36,492 --> 01:06:37,760
SOMETHING LIKE A STOCK MARKET 

2025
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,428
DOWNTURN. AND SO MUCH OF THAT 

2026
01:06:39,428 --> 01:06:40,096
PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX IS NOT JUST 

2027
01:06:40,096 --> 01:06:44,500
SORT OF NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, BUT

2028
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,335
BASED ON THOSE STOCK MARKET, 

2029
01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:49,338
WHICH WHICH IS PART OF THAT 

2030
01:06:49,338 --> 01:06:52,041
INCOME THAT IS BASED UPON. SO 

2031
01:06:52,041 --> 01:06:54,176
JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN, I'M JUST 

2032
01:06:54,176 --> 01:06:55,111
CONCERNED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE 

2033
01:06:55,111 --> 01:06:56,779
THAT WE ARE BEING THAT WE HAVE 

2034
01:06:56,779 --> 01:06:58,447
SOME SORT OF CONTINGENCY PLAN, 

2035
01:06:58,447 --> 01:07:02,885
ESPECIALLY AS IF WE START TO DO 

2036
01:07:02,885 --> 01:07:03,519
THINGS LIKE FORWARD COMMITMENTS 

2037
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:07,823
AROUND THE PAYROLL TAX. AND, YOU

2038
01:07:07,823 --> 01:07:10,493
KNOW, JUST IF THERE ARE ANY SORT

2039
01:07:10,493 --> 01:07:12,395
OF BACKUP PLANS, I JUST THINK 

2040
01:07:12,395 --> 01:07:14,530
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO, 

2041
01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:18,534
WE WE DID SOME BONDING FOR 

2042
01:07:18,534 --> 01:07:20,102
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I JUST WANT 

2043
01:07:20,102 --> 01:07:23,105
TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE 

2044
01:07:23,105 --> 01:07:25,541
READY AND WE ARE. YEAH, THINKING

2045
01:07:25,541 --> 01:07:28,711
ABOUT SORT OF WORST CASE 

2046
01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:29,011
SCENARIOS. 

2047
01:07:29,011 --> 01:07:29,645
-- YEAH. THESE ARE THE THINGS 

2048
01:07:29,645 --> 01:07:32,681
THAT KEEP ME UP AT KEEP ME UP AT

2049
01:07:32,681 --> 01:07:33,849
NIGHT. I THINK ONE OF ONE OF THE

2050
01:07:33,849 --> 01:07:35,551
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE ALL 

2051
01:07:35,551 --> 01:07:38,354
CONFRONTED WITH RIGHT NOW IS 

2052
01:07:38,354 --> 01:07:40,356
MANY OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES THAT

2053
01:07:40,356 --> 01:07:41,891
ARE SEEING ANY GROWTH ARE SOME 

2054
01:07:41,891 --> 01:07:43,993
OF OUR MOST VOLATILE, WHILE OUR 

2055
01:07:43,993 --> 01:07:45,394
MOST STABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE 

2056
01:07:45,394 --> 01:07:47,029
LIKE THAT SUPPORTS GENERAL 

2057
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:47,663
GOVERNMENT INVESTMENTS, PROPERTY

2058
01:07:47,663 --> 01:07:50,966
TAX, FOR EXAMPLE, IS CAPPED AT 

2059
01:07:50,966 --> 01:07:52,535
THE STATE LEVEL AND DOESN'T 

2060
01:07:52,535 --> 01:07:53,502
SORT OF GROW WITH WITH OUR 

2061
01:07:53,502 --> 01:07:57,573
COSTS. SO THAT IS, I WOULD SAY, 

2062
01:07:57,573 --> 01:07:58,874
A RISK ACROSS THE THE BUDGET. I 

2063
01:07:58,874 --> 01:07:59,875
THINK WE ARE DOING A COUPLE OF 

2064
01:07:59,875 --> 01:08:02,878
THINGS. ONE, I WOULD SAY AGAIN, 

2065
01:08:02,878 --> 01:08:04,447
OFFICE OF HOUSING IS TAKING A 

2066
01:08:04,447 --> 01:08:06,449
VERY CAUTIOUS AND RISK AVERSE 

2067
01:08:06,449 --> 01:08:07,116
APPROACH TO HOW WE MANAGE THIS. 

2068
01:08:07,116 --> 01:08:09,452
SO I THINK THAT IS ONE THAT WILL

2069
01:08:09,452 --> 01:08:11,353
BE VERY CAREFUL OF HOW WE ARE 

2070
01:08:11,353 --> 01:08:13,088
DEPLOYING THE VARIOUS STRATEGIES

2071
01:08:13,088 --> 01:08:14,557
TO MANAGE THIS. SECOND, WE ARE 

2072
01:08:14,557 --> 01:08:17,760
WORKING REALLY HARD TO FUND THE 

2073
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,362
JUMPSTART RESERVE THAT WILL, BY 

2074
01:08:20,362 --> 01:08:21,997
THE END OF THE BIENNIUM, HAVE 

2075
01:08:21,997 --> 01:08:23,566
OVER $30 MILLION. AND I THINK BY

2076
01:08:23,566 --> 01:08:26,669
2030 WILL BE FULLY FUNDED AT 10%

2077
01:08:26,669 --> 01:08:28,871
OF ANNUAL REVENUES, ASSUMING NO 

2078
01:08:28,871 --> 01:08:30,172
CHANGE IN REVENUE. IN ADDITION, 

2079
01:08:30,172 --> 01:08:33,476
THE BUDGET INCLUDES THE ANNUAL 

2080
01:08:33,476 --> 01:08:34,610
REQUIRED CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR 

2081
01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:36,679
EMERGENCY FUNDS AND OUR REVENUE 

2082
01:08:36,679 --> 01:08:37,246
STABILIZATION FUNDS FOR THE 

2083
01:08:37,246 --> 01:08:38,914
GENERAL FUND, AND DOESN'T DRAW 

2084
01:08:38,914 --> 01:08:42,084
ON ANY OF THESE RESERVES IN THIS

2085
01:08:42,084 --> 01:08:43,152
BIENNIUM OR IN THE PROJECTED 

2086
01:08:43,152 --> 01:08:44,787
FUTURE YEARS THAT ARE PART OF 

2087
01:08:44,787 --> 01:08:46,922
THE FINANCIAL PLAN. SO THERE IS 

2088
01:08:46,922 --> 01:08:49,225
ALWAYS RISK BECAUSE ANY BUDGET 

2089
01:08:49,225 --> 01:08:52,661
IS BASED ON A FORECAST. AND SO 

2090
01:08:52,661 --> 01:08:53,496
THERE ARE SOME RISKS THERE. BUT 

2091
01:08:53,496 --> 01:08:56,365
I THINK WE ARE BEING REASONABLY 

2092
01:08:56,365 --> 01:08:57,766
CAUTIOUS AND AGAIN, WILL 

2093
01:08:57,766 --> 01:08:59,368
CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND NOT SORT

2094
01:08:59,368 --> 01:09:01,437
OF SPEND ALL THE MONEY IN 

2095
01:09:01,437 --> 01:09:02,938
JANUARY BEFORE WE SEE WHAT IS 

2096
01:09:02,938 --> 01:09:05,441
HAPPENING IN THE MARKET. 

2097
01:09:05,441 --> 01:09:06,775
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. FINAL 

2098
01:09:06,775 --> 01:09:09,812
QUESTION IS JUST RENTAL 

2099
01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:12,615
ASSISTANCE. I'M NOT SURE IF 

2100
01:09:12,615 --> 01:09:15,618
JUST IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WHERE

2101
01:09:15,618 --> 01:09:16,252
RENTAL ASSISTANCE FALLS WITHIN 

2102
01:09:16,252 --> 01:09:18,254
OUR SORT OF LARGER STRATEGIES. 

2103
01:09:18,254 --> 01:09:19,889
AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT THE 

2104
01:09:19,889 --> 01:09:20,890
ONLY PLAYER. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S,

2105
01:09:20,890 --> 01:09:23,125
YOU KNOW, SECTION EIGHT, OTHER 

2106
01:09:23,125 --> 01:09:25,161
SORT OF FORMS OF RENTAL 

2107
01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:28,864
ASSISTANCE OUT THERE. BUT AGAIN,

2108
01:09:28,864 --> 01:09:30,099
ALSO JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, 

2109
01:09:30,099 --> 01:09:32,368
WE'VE WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF JOB 

2110
01:09:32,368 --> 01:09:33,903
LOSSES. AND I'M JUST WONDERING 

2111
01:09:33,903 --> 01:09:35,070
ABOUT WHETHER THERE MIGHT BE A 

2112
01:09:35,070 --> 01:09:38,173
NEED FOR GREATER RENTAL 

2113
01:09:38,173 --> 01:09:40,476
ASSISTANCE IN THE COMING YEARS. 

2114
01:09:40,476 --> 01:09:46,682
AND JUST, WE CAN HUDDLE OFFLINE.

2115
01:09:46,682 --> 01:09:47,283
AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF 

2116
01:09:47,283 --> 01:09:48,951
THERE IS SOME SORT OF LARGER 

2117
01:09:48,951 --> 01:09:51,954
DOWNTURN, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF

2118
01:09:51,954 --> 01:09:52,555
REVISITING OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS 

2119
01:09:52,555 --> 01:09:55,558
AND A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE IN 

2120
01:09:55,558 --> 01:09:56,859
PIVOTING. BUT JUST WANT TO PUT 

2121
01:09:56,859 --> 01:09:59,194
THAT OUT THERE THAT I COULD SEE 

2122
01:09:59,194 --> 01:10:01,730
A GREATER NEED FOR RENTAL 

2123
01:10:01,730 --> 01:10:02,364
ASSISTANCE, AND ESPECIALLY WITH 

2124
01:10:02,364 --> 01:10:04,633
HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DEPLOY SOME

2125
01:10:04,633 --> 01:10:07,136
OF OUR CAPITAL AND GET HOUSING 

2126
01:10:07,136 --> 01:10:09,405
ONLINE, THAT WE COULD 

2127
01:10:09,405 --> 01:10:10,673
POTENTIALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 

2128
01:10:10,673 --> 01:10:12,274
BETTER RESULTS WITH, WITH A 

2129
01:10:12,274 --> 01:10:13,609
SLIGHTLY LARGER INVESTMENT IN 

2130
01:10:13,609 --> 01:10:15,244
RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU. 

2131
01:10:15,244 --> 01:10:17,379
-- I THINK RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS 

2132
01:10:17,379 --> 01:10:19,114
INTERESTING AS WELL AS AN 

2133
01:10:19,114 --> 01:10:22,785
ONGOING OPERATING SUBSIDY, 

2134
01:10:22,785 --> 01:10:23,919
SHALLOW, DEEP THERE WE ARE 

2135
01:10:23,919 --> 01:10:24,954
MOVING MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE 

2136
01:10:24,954 --> 01:10:26,488
DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR THIS YEAR. 

2137
01:10:26,488 --> 01:10:28,023
HSD IS OUR ADMINISTRATOR, ALSO 

2138
01:10:28,023 --> 01:10:29,858
OF OUR LEVY RENTAL ASSISTANCE 

2139
01:10:29,858 --> 01:10:31,927
FUNDS. THERE IS A LOT OF NEED 

2140
01:10:31,927 --> 01:10:33,495
OUT THERE. WE'RE HEARING FROM 

2141
01:10:33,495 --> 01:10:34,129
PROVIDERS THAT THEY'RE REALLY 

2142
01:10:34,129 --> 01:10:35,297
LOOKING TO THESE FUNDS THAT WILL

2143
01:10:35,297 --> 01:10:38,067
BE RELEASED VERY SOON, SO THAT 

2144
01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:39,501
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD 

2145
01:10:39,501 --> 01:10:41,403
CONVERSATION TO COME BACK TO. 

2146
01:10:41,403 --> 01:10:43,105
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

2147
01:10:43,105 --> 01:10:44,206
-- COUNCILMEMBER LIN ANYTHING 

2148
01:10:44,206 --> 01:10:45,774
FURTHER? NO. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE 

2149
01:10:45,774 --> 01:10:46,742
GOT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK, SAKA 

2150
01:10:46,742 --> 01:10:48,811
AND KETTLE. AND FOR THE RECORD, 

2151
01:10:48,811 --> 01:10:49,845
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HAS BEEN HERE

2152
01:10:49,845 --> 01:10:51,714
SINCE THE START, JUST REMOTE AND

2153
01:10:51,714 --> 01:10:52,214
THEN IN PERSON. COUNCIL 

2154
01:10:52,214 --> 01:10:53,015
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 

2155
01:10:53,015 --> 01:10:56,352
THE BEGINNING OF THIS 

2156
01:10:56,352 --> 01:10:56,919
PRESENTATION. COUNCILMEMBER 

2157
01:10:56,919 --> 01:10:58,354
KETTLE WAS HAS BEEN HERE FOR AT 

2158
01:10:58,354 --> 01:10:59,855
LEAST A HALF OF AN HOUR. SO WITH

2159
01:10:59,855 --> 01:11:01,957
THAT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK FLOOR 

2160
01:11:01,957 --> 01:11:03,726
IS YOURS. 

2161
01:11:03,726 --> 01:11:04,860
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS, AND

2162
01:11:04,860 --> 01:11:06,328
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE WHOLE 

2163
01:11:06,328 --> 01:11:07,997
TEAM AT THE OFFICE OF HOUSING. 

2164
01:11:07,997 --> 01:11:08,964
DIRECTOR LARSON, THANK YOU FOR 

2165
01:11:08,964 --> 01:11:09,665
YOUR WORK, AND I WANT TO TAKE 

2166
01:11:09,665 --> 01:11:11,300
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU 

2167
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:12,668
FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AROUND THE 

2168
01:11:12,668 --> 01:11:15,671
CONTINUUM OF CARE FUNDING 

2169
01:11:15,671 --> 01:11:17,139
FIASCO, NEVER ENDING JOURNEY 

2170
01:11:17,139 --> 01:11:19,308
THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN ON AS THESE

2171
01:11:19,308 --> 01:11:20,776
CRUCIAL FEDERAL FUNDS HAVE BEEN 

2172
01:11:20,776 --> 01:11:22,745
HELD IN LIMBO FOR SOME TIME. I 

2173
01:11:22,745 --> 01:11:24,313
WANT TO THANK THE OFFICE OF 

2174
01:11:24,313 --> 01:11:26,515
HOUSING FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND

2175
01:11:26,515 --> 01:11:28,217
PARTICIPATION AT THOSE KIND OF 

2176
01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:28,817
STRATEGIC PLANNING TABLES TO 

2177
01:11:28,817 --> 01:11:29,518
FIGURE OUT HOW WE CHART A PATH 

2178
01:11:29,518 --> 01:11:32,121
HERE TO STABILIZE THAT HOUSING 

2179
01:11:32,121 --> 01:11:35,024
FOR 4500 HOUSEHOLDS IN OUR 

2180
01:11:35,024 --> 01:11:37,159
REGION. SO HUGE GRATITUDE TO 

2181
01:11:37,159 --> 01:11:38,894
YOU. AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR

2182
01:11:38,894 --> 01:11:40,462
WORK ALONGSIDE MY OFFICE IN 

2183
01:11:40,462 --> 01:11:42,498
SUPPORTING AND EXPLORING WAYS WE

2184
01:11:42,498 --> 01:11:45,100
CAN SUPPORT MORE COMMUNITY LED 

2185
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:45,701
AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS. I 

2186
01:11:45,701 --> 01:11:47,936
HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS 

2187
01:11:47,936 --> 01:11:50,973
FOR TODAY. REALLY, JUST TO 

2188
01:11:50,973 --> 01:11:51,573
FOCUSING IN ON THE COMMUNITY 

2189
01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:55,077
SELF-DETERMINATION FUND. LAST 

2190
01:11:55,077 --> 01:11:57,680
YEAR STATED THAT YOU ALL WERE 

2191
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,082
DEDICATING 24 MILLION TOWARDS 

2192
01:12:00,082 --> 01:12:00,716
THE COMMUNITY SELF-DETERMINATION

2193
01:12:00,716 --> 01:12:02,785
FUND. MY QUESTION IS, WAS ALL OF

2194
01:12:02,785 --> 01:12:05,921
THAT MONEY USED FOR THAT 

2195
01:12:05,921 --> 01:12:07,523
PURPOSE? 

2196
01:12:07,523 --> 01:12:10,225
-- ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT 2026 OR 

2197
01:12:10,225 --> 01:12:14,897
2025. 

2198
01:12:14,897 --> 01:12:15,164
-- 2025. 

2199
01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:17,499
-- 2025, 2025? YES. ALL 

2200
01:12:17,499 --> 01:12:20,402
COMMUNITY SELF-DETERMINATION 

2201
01:12:20,402 --> 01:12:22,604
FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED TO 

2202
01:12:22,604 --> 01:12:25,474
PROJECTS THAT ARE COMMUNITY 

2203
01:12:25,474 --> 01:12:28,310
BASED ORGANIZATIONS DEVELOPED 

2204
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:29,778
AND ARE OPERATING. I'D HAVE TO 

2205
01:12:29,778 --> 01:12:31,146
GO AND LOOK AT THE AWARD LIST 

2206
01:12:31,146 --> 01:12:34,216
BECAUSE I CANNOT RECALL. BUT IN 

2207
01:12:34,216 --> 01:12:35,718
2026, IT WILL BE A LITTLE 

2208
01:12:35,718 --> 01:12:38,053
DIFFERENT. WE ARE MAINTAINING 

2209
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:40,789
THIS PRIORITY FOR COMMUNITY 

2210
01:12:40,789 --> 01:12:42,891
BASED PROJECTS. IT IS A 

2211
01:12:42,891 --> 01:12:44,626
PRIORITY, LONG STANDING FOR THE 

2212
01:12:44,626 --> 01:12:47,463
OFFICE OF HOUSING, TO INVEST IN 

2213
01:12:47,463 --> 01:12:48,097
COMMUNITY AND ALLOW AND ENABLE 

2214
01:12:48,097 --> 01:12:51,934
AND FACILITATE PARTNERSHIPS FOR 

2215
01:12:51,934 --> 01:12:52,468
NEW ORGANIZATIONS AND NEW 

2216
01:12:52,468 --> 01:12:55,871
ENTRANTS INTO THE SECTOR TO 

2217
01:12:55,871 --> 01:12:56,405
BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

2218
01:12:56,405 --> 01:12:59,208
PROJECTS IN THE WAY THAT THEY 

2219
01:12:59,208 --> 01:13:01,744
SEE FIT FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES. 

2220
01:13:01,744 --> 01:13:03,712
IN THIS CURRENT TIME THAT WE'RE

2221
01:13:03,712 --> 01:13:06,648
IN, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR 

2222
01:13:06,648 --> 01:13:09,017
EVEN MAINSTREAM PROVIDERS TO 

2223
01:13:09,017 --> 01:13:12,488
SECURE INVESTMENT BECAUSE OF HOW

2224
01:13:12,488 --> 01:13:13,922
CHALLENGING THE MARKET IS RIGHT 

2225
01:13:13,922 --> 01:13:17,926
NOW, AND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO 

2226
01:13:17,926 --> 01:13:20,496
OPERATE HOUSING IN OUR CITY AND 

2227
01:13:20,496 --> 01:13:22,831
MANY OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 

2228
01:13:22,831 --> 01:13:25,033
SO WE WILL BE MAINTAINING A 

2229
01:13:25,033 --> 01:13:26,802
PRIORITY FOR COMMUNITY BASED 

2230
01:13:26,802 --> 01:13:28,804
ORGANIZATIONS IN THESE PROJECTS 

2231
01:13:28,804 --> 01:13:30,939
AS WE ARE CONSIDERING OUR 

2232
01:13:30,939 --> 01:13:32,841
INVESTMENTS, HOWEVER, WE WILL 

2233
01:13:32,841 --> 01:13:35,043
NOT BE ESTABLISHING A FLOOR OF 

2234
01:13:35,043 --> 01:13:37,312
INVESTMENT. WE'RE HOPING TO 

2235
01:13:37,312 --> 01:13:39,081
MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY AS WE BRING

2236
01:13:39,081 --> 01:13:41,383
OUR RESOURCES INTO PROJECTS SUCH

2237
01:13:41,383 --> 01:13:43,118
THAT WE CAN PLACE DOLLARS INTO 

2238
01:13:43,118 --> 01:13:45,154
THE MOST READY AND FEASIBLE 

2239
01:13:45,154 --> 01:13:46,088
PROJECTS IN THE TIME THAT WE 

2240
01:13:46,088 --> 01:13:48,357
HAVE RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS 

2241
01:13:48,357 --> 01:13:50,459
RESPONDING TO SOME OF THESE 

2242
01:13:50,459 --> 01:13:51,894
EMERGENT NEEDS THAT ARE IN THE 

2243
01:13:51,894 --> 01:13:53,695
OPERATING SIDE OF THE SECTOR, 

2244
01:13:53,695 --> 01:13:57,866
AND JUST MAINTAINING FLEXIBILITY

2245
01:13:57,866 --> 01:13:58,500
THERE. BUT STEADFASTLY HOLDING 

2246
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:00,135
TO THE COMMITMENT TO EQUITY AS 

2247
01:14:00,135 --> 01:14:02,371
MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 

2248
01:14:02,371 --> 01:14:03,839
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER, 

2249
01:14:03,839 --> 01:14:05,374
DIRECTOR LARSON, YOU KIND OF GOT

2250
01:14:05,374 --> 01:14:07,276
INTO ANSWERING THE NEXT PART OF 

2251
01:14:07,276 --> 01:14:09,745
MY QUESTION, WHICH WAS 

2252
01:14:09,745 --> 01:14:10,312
UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR THIS 

2253
01:14:10,312 --> 01:14:11,947
PROPOSED BUDGET, THERE'S NO 

2254
01:14:11,947 --> 01:14:13,982
LINE ITEM SET FOR THE COMMUNITY 

2255
01:14:13,982 --> 01:14:14,950
SELF-DETERMINATION FUND. AND SO 

2256
01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:16,985
YOU SPOKE TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 

2257
01:14:16,985 --> 01:14:19,688
HOW THE INTENT AND THE WORK 

2258
01:14:19,688 --> 01:14:21,690
BEHIND USUALLY THE COMMUNITY 

2259
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:22,291
SELF-DETERMINATION FUND WILL 

2260
01:14:22,291 --> 01:14:24,460
CONTINUE FORWARD, BUT IT'S NOT A

2261
01:14:24,460 --> 01:14:25,260
SPECIFIC SET LINE ITEM. I'M 

2262
01:14:25,260 --> 01:14:26,995
WONDERING IF YOU CAN JUST EXPAND

2263
01:14:26,995 --> 01:14:28,797
OR FILL IN ANY ADDITIONAL DETAIL

2264
01:14:28,797 --> 01:14:32,901
AS TO THE RATIONALE, MORE SO 

2265
01:14:32,901 --> 01:14:33,368
BEHIND THAT DECISION. 

2266
01:14:33,368 --> 01:14:34,970
-- THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE 

2267
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:37,372
COMMUNITY SELF-DETERMINATION 

2268
01:14:37,372 --> 01:14:39,708
FUND WAS TO SUPPORT NEW ENTRANTS

2269
01:14:39,708 --> 01:14:42,110
INTO THE SECTOR TO DEVELOP 

2270
01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:45,047
PROJECTS ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT A 

2271
01:14:45,047 --> 01:14:47,749
PARTNER. ALL BY THEMSELVES. 

2272
01:14:47,749 --> 01:14:50,752
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT OWNERSHIP

2273
01:14:50,752 --> 01:14:53,922
POSITION TO BE IN, TO HOLD THAT 

2274
01:14:53,922 --> 01:14:56,558
RESPONSIBILITY AND TO CARRY THAT

2275
01:14:56,558 --> 01:14:59,461
PROJECT ALONE. IT'S BOTH A HEAVY

2276
01:14:59,461 --> 01:15:02,764
RESPONSIBILITY AND A PRIVILEGE. 

2277
01:15:02,764 --> 01:15:03,632
UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE TIMES THAT

2278
01:15:03,632 --> 01:15:06,969
WE ARE IN, BECAUSE OF 

2279
01:15:06,969 --> 01:15:09,738
INCREASINGLY STRICT INVESTOR 

2280
01:15:09,738 --> 01:15:11,673
REQUIREMENTS AND SCREENING, IT 

2281
01:15:11,673 --> 01:15:15,477
WOULD BE HIGHLY UNLIKELY FOR A 

2282
01:15:15,477 --> 01:15:18,347
PROJECT WITH A NEW COMMUNITY 

2283
01:15:18,347 --> 01:15:21,350
BASED ORGANIZATION TO ACHIEVE 

2284
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:23,085
THE ENTIRE CAPITAL STACK 

2285
01:15:23,085 --> 01:15:25,354
NECESSARY TO MOVE A PROJECT 

2286
01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:28,190
FORWARD. IF A NEW PROJECT WAS 

2287
01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:29,925
COMING FORWARD THAT PROPOSED A 

2288
01:15:29,925 --> 01:15:31,360
DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAPITAL STACK 

2289
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,228
THAT DID NOT RELY ON PRIVATE 

2290
01:15:33,228 --> 01:15:35,364
DEBT EQUITY TAX CREDITS, THAT 

2291
01:15:35,364 --> 01:15:39,668
WOULD BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF 

2292
01:15:39,668 --> 01:15:41,970
CONCEPT. BUT UNDER OUR CURRENT 

2293
01:15:41,970 --> 01:15:43,805
TYPICAL CAPITAL STACK OF 

2294
01:15:43,805 --> 01:15:45,173
INVESTMENTS, IT WOULD BE VERY, 

2295
01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:47,576
VERY DIFFICULT FOR A NEW 

2296
01:15:47,576 --> 01:15:49,444
ORGANIZATION WITHOUT A PARTNER 

2297
01:15:49,444 --> 01:15:50,812
TO BRING FORWARD A PROJECT IN 

2298
01:15:50,812 --> 01:15:54,983
THIS TIME. WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING

2299
01:15:54,983 --> 01:15:56,919
WITH NEW ENTRANTS ABOUT FINDING 

2300
01:15:56,919 --> 01:15:57,619
WAYS TO SECURE A PARTNER THAT'S

2301
01:15:57,619 --> 01:16:00,255
NOT ALWAYS THE MOST DESIRABLE 

2302
01:16:00,255 --> 01:16:03,425
OUTCOME FOR EVERY COMMUNITY 

2303
01:16:03,425 --> 01:16:06,428
BASED ORGANIZATION AND 

2304
01:16:06,428 --> 01:16:07,596
DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND 

2305
01:16:07,596 --> 01:16:08,597
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS SORT OF 

2306
01:16:08,597 --> 01:16:10,132
THE TIME THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT 

2307
01:16:10,132 --> 01:16:12,200
NOW. NOT TO SAY THAT WE ARE 

2308
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,337
CLOSING DOWN THE THE COMMUNITY 

2309
01:16:15,337 --> 01:16:16,805
SELF-DETERMINATION FUND. THAT 

2310
01:16:16,805 --> 01:16:18,173
PROGRAM WILL BE HELD WHOLE IN 

2311
01:16:18,173 --> 01:16:20,976
OUR HOUSING FUNDING POLICIES. WE

2312
01:16:20,976 --> 01:16:22,945
WILL HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO THAT

2313
01:16:22,945 --> 01:16:26,148
IN A TIME OF GREATER RESOURCES. 

2314
01:16:26,148 --> 01:16:27,115
PERHAPS WHEN SOME OF THESE 

2315
01:16:27,115 --> 01:16:29,318
FEDERAL FUNDING THREATS HAVE 

2316
01:16:29,318 --> 01:16:30,686
PEELED AWAY AND WE CAN RELAX ON 

2317
01:16:30,686 --> 01:16:36,425
AT LEAST ONE FRONT OF THE MANY 

2318
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:37,092
THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TODAY. BUT

2319
01:16:37,092 --> 01:16:38,093
IN THIS TIME THAT WE'RE IN, WE 

2320
01:16:38,093 --> 01:16:38,694
FEEL IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 

2321
01:16:38,694 --> 01:16:40,963
AGAIN, JUST REALLY FOCUSING ON 

2322
01:16:40,963 --> 01:16:42,664
RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT PRACTICES

2323
01:16:42,664 --> 01:16:44,533
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE 

2324
01:16:44,533 --> 01:16:46,368
SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS TO BE 

2325
01:16:46,368 --> 01:16:49,271
SUCCESSFUL AND PROJECTS TO BE 

2326
01:16:49,271 --> 01:16:49,738
SUCCESSFUL LONG TERM. 

2327
01:16:49,738 --> 01:16:50,973
-- THANK YOU FOR UNPACKING THAT.

2328
01:16:50,973 --> 01:16:52,741
DIRECTOR LARSON, AND I 

2329
01:16:52,741 --> 01:16:55,143
APPRECIATE JUST THE 

2330
01:16:55,143 --> 01:16:55,610
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE 

2331
01:16:55,610 --> 01:16:56,411
CIRCUMSTANCES WE FIND OURSELVES 

2332
01:16:56,411 --> 01:16:57,746
IN. I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S 

2333
01:16:57,746 --> 01:17:00,315
BEEN A CHANGE IN THE LENDING 

2334
01:17:00,315 --> 01:17:01,783
MARKET AND APPROACHES. I THINK 

2335
01:17:01,783 --> 01:17:04,152
WE, AS COUNCIL HAVE SHARED A 

2336
01:17:04,152 --> 01:17:05,487
PRIORITY. IF WE WANT TO BE 

2337
01:17:05,487 --> 01:17:07,356
SUPPORTING COMMUNITY AND BEING 

2338
01:17:07,356 --> 01:17:09,358
ABLE TO DETERMINE AND SUPPORT 

2339
01:17:09,358 --> 01:17:10,325
MORE WEALTH BUILDING OPPORTUNITY

2340
01:17:10,325 --> 01:17:11,893
AND BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THOSE 

2341
01:17:11,893 --> 01:17:14,229
ASSETS. AND SO WHILE IT'S 

2342
01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:16,264
DISAPPOINTING IN MANY WAYS TO 

2343
01:17:16,264 --> 01:17:16,898
FIND THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE 

2344
01:17:16,898 --> 01:17:18,033
ARE IN AND THE CHANGES, 

2345
01:17:18,033 --> 01:17:18,734
PARTICULARLY AGAIN, IN THE 

2346
01:17:18,734 --> 01:17:21,503
LENDING MARKET, I'LL JUST STATE

2347
01:17:21,503 --> 01:17:22,404
A PRIORITY IN THE FUTURE, BEING 

2348
01:17:22,404 --> 01:17:24,272
ABLE TO FIND MORE WAYS TO BETTER

2349
01:17:24,272 --> 01:17:27,509
RESOURCE AND SUPPORT THESE 

2350
01:17:27,509 --> 01:17:29,311
OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY LED 

2351
01:17:29,311 --> 01:17:30,345
DEVELOPMENT, BUT SHARED. THAT 

2352
01:17:30,345 --> 01:17:30,912
CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS FOR 

2353
01:17:30,912 --> 01:17:32,347
TODAY. I WANT TO THANK AGAIN THE

2354
01:17:32,347 --> 01:17:34,316
OFFICE OF HOUSING FOR YOUR 

2355
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:36,084
CONTINUED WORK IN DEVELOPING 

2356
01:17:36,084 --> 01:17:36,618
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR 

2357
01:17:36,618 --> 01:17:37,552
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. 

2358
01:17:37,552 --> 01:17:38,587
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2359
01:17:38,587 --> 01:17:39,454
RINCK. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE 

2360
01:17:39,454 --> 01:17:40,856
COMMITTEE TABLE RIGHT NOW? NO. 

2361
01:17:40,856 --> 01:17:43,191
SEEING NONE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 

2362
01:17:43,191 --> 01:17:43,725
FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER 

2363
01:17:43,725 --> 01:17:43,959
KETTLE. 

2364
01:17:43,959 --> 01:17:44,993
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

2365
01:17:44,993 --> 01:17:46,061
YOU, DIRECTOR LARSON, YOUR TEAM 

2366
01:17:46,061 --> 01:17:50,432
FOR BEING HERE TODAY. APPRECIATE

2367
01:17:50,432 --> 01:17:52,934
THIS PRESENTATION AND 

2368
01:17:52,934 --> 01:17:53,535
CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN ON YOUR 

2369
01:17:53,535 --> 01:17:54,870
RECENT CONFIRMATION. EXCITED TO 

2370
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:57,572
PARTNER WITH YOU AND HAVE YOU AT

2371
01:17:57,572 --> 01:17:58,340
THE TABLE AS THE HEAD OF THE 

2372
01:17:58,340 --> 01:18:00,876
TABLE, SO TO SPEAK, ON THIS 

2373
01:18:00,876 --> 01:18:02,144
SIDE. AND AGAIN, APPRECIATE ALL 

2374
01:18:02,144 --> 01:18:05,147
THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS ONE

2375
01:18:05,147 --> 01:18:08,483
QUESTION. MAYBE TWO. WE'LL SEE.

2376
01:18:08,483 --> 01:18:11,019
BUT I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT 

2377
01:18:11,019 --> 01:18:14,289
ABOUT WEATHERIZATION AND HOME 

2378
01:18:14,289 --> 01:18:16,792
PROGRAMS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. 

2379
01:18:16,792 --> 01:18:18,260
SO WHICH LEADS ME TO ONE OF MY 

2380
01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:20,829
HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR YOUR 

2381
01:18:20,829 --> 01:18:23,298
DEPARTMENT IS TO UNLOCKING NEW 

2382
01:18:23,298 --> 01:18:24,766
HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR 

2383
01:18:24,766 --> 01:18:27,903
EVERYONE PRIORITIZING FOLKS WHO 

2384
01:18:27,903 --> 01:18:29,471
HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN LEFT OUT 

2385
01:18:29,471 --> 01:18:32,607
OF THE PROCESS. WE'RE TALKING 

2386
01:18:32,607 --> 01:18:33,075
ABOUT BLACK AND BROWN 

2387
01:18:33,075 --> 01:18:34,943
HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, OTHER 

2388
01:18:34,943 --> 01:18:37,846
PEOPLE FROM SOCIOECONOMIC 

2389
01:18:37,846 --> 01:18:39,448
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES WHO 

2390
01:18:39,448 --> 01:18:40,082
WANT TO HAVE THEIR SLICE OF THE 

2391
01:18:40,082 --> 01:18:41,950
AMERICAN DREAM, THE WHITE PICKET

2392
01:18:41,950 --> 01:18:43,185
FENCE, IF YOU WILL, DOESN'T NEED

2393
01:18:43,185 --> 01:18:48,223
TO BE A WHITE PICKET FENCE. BUT 

2394
01:18:48,223 --> 01:18:48,757
MY POINT IS UNLOCKING NEW 

2395
01:18:48,757 --> 01:18:50,525
HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR 

2396
01:18:50,525 --> 01:18:52,527
ALL AND HAVING VIBRANT AND 

2397
01:18:52,527 --> 01:18:55,030
ROBUST PROGRAMING TO DO EXACTLY 

2398
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:56,665
THAT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF 

2399
01:18:56,665 --> 01:18:58,500
MY HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR YOUR 

2400
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,003
DEPARTMENT. NOT EVERYONE WANTS 

2401
01:19:02,003 --> 01:19:04,106
TO, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN 

2402
01:19:04,106 --> 01:19:05,040
HOMEOWNERSHIP, WHICH IS TOTALLY 

2403
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,242
FINE. BUT FOR THOSE THAT DO, WE 

2404
01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:10,145
NEED TO HAVE GREAT PROGRAMING 

2405
01:19:10,145 --> 01:19:11,279
OPTIONS BECAUSE THAT, AGAIN, 

2406
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:12,948
THAT'S, THAT'S THE AMERICAN 

2407
01:19:12,948 --> 01:19:14,816
DREAM AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO 

2408
01:19:14,816 --> 01:19:19,020
WHETHER SHIP AND HOMEOWNERSHIP 

2409
01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:21,356
PROGRAMS SHOW MEASURABLE 

2410
01:19:21,356 --> 01:19:24,426
DECREASES FROM 2026 FUNDING 

2411
01:19:24,426 --> 01:19:25,927
LEVELS AND SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU 

2412
01:19:25,927 --> 01:19:28,196
LOOK AT PAGE TWO, 40 OF THE 

2413
01:19:28,196 --> 01:19:29,865
BUDGET DOCS, THAT'S ONE 

2414
01:19:29,865 --> 01:19:30,899
ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLE. THERE ARE 

2415
01:19:30,899 --> 01:19:32,834
OTHERS IN THE IN THE BUDGET 

2416
01:19:32,834 --> 01:19:34,202
MATERIALS. BUT THAT'S THAT'S 

2417
01:19:34,202 --> 01:19:36,705
ONE SORT OF GOOD GRAPHICAL 

2418
01:19:36,705 --> 01:19:39,875
DEPICTION OF THAT PROPOSITION. 

2419
01:19:39,875 --> 01:19:42,010
HOW WILL THESE REDUCTIONS AFFECT

2420
01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:44,646
LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS AND 

2421
01:19:44,646 --> 01:19:47,215
RENTERS IN THE NEAR TERM, 

2422
01:19:47,215 --> 01:19:50,118
PARTICULARLY THOSE RELYING ON 

2423
01:19:50,118 --> 01:19:50,652
CRITICAL REPAIRS, ENERGY 

2424
01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:52,787
EFFICIENCY UPGRADES, OR FIRST 

2425
01:19:52,787 --> 01:19:57,659
TIME HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE? AND 

2426
01:19:57,659 --> 01:20:00,695
THEN HOW IS PRIORITIZING WHICH 

2427
01:20:00,695 --> 01:20:01,296
RESIDENTS SERVING INITIATIVES 

2428
01:20:01,296 --> 01:20:03,665
REMAIN FULLY FUNDED VERSUS 

2429
01:20:03,665 --> 01:20:05,867
SCALED BACK 

2430
01:20:05,867 --> 01:20:06,301
-- COMMITTEE TABLE? 

2431
01:20:06,301 --> 01:20:07,502
-- I CAN START WITH THE 

2432
01:20:07,502 --> 01:20:09,237
TECHNICAL SIDE OF THAT. FOR THE 

2433
01:20:09,237 --> 01:20:11,673
HOME OWNERSHIP DECREASE THAT YOU

2434
01:20:11,673 --> 01:20:14,476
SEE. WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT IN 

2435
01:20:14,476 --> 01:20:17,445
2026, THERE WAS A ONE TIME 

2436
01:20:17,445 --> 01:20:20,182
COUNCIL AD, EXCUSE ME, OF $3.4 

2437
01:20:20,182 --> 01:20:22,317
MILLION, AND THAT WAS DONE IN 

2438
01:20:22,317 --> 01:20:26,021
ORDER TO COVER A PROPOSED CUT 

2439
01:20:26,021 --> 01:20:27,923
FOR BOTH 25 AND 26, 1.7 MILLION 

2440
01:20:27,923 --> 01:20:32,060
IN EACH YEAR, SO THAT COUNCIL AD

2441
01:20:32,060 --> 01:20:34,262
IN THE 26 BUDGET WAS A ONE TIME 

2442
01:20:34,262 --> 01:20:36,832
RESTORATION. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS 

2443
01:20:36,832 --> 01:20:37,465
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN WE 

2444
01:20:37,465 --> 01:20:39,434
REMOVE THAT OUT OF THE BASELINE,

2445
01:20:39,434 --> 01:20:41,636
GOING BACK TO THE BASELINE 

2446
01:20:41,636 --> 01:20:44,706
LEVELS THAT EXISTED BEFORE THAT 

2447
01:20:44,706 --> 01:20:45,674
COUNCIL AD AND WEATHERIZATION, 

2448
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:47,342
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A 

2449
01:20:47,342 --> 01:20:50,011
DIFFERENT STORY. WEATHERIZATION 

2450
01:20:50,011 --> 01:20:51,346
IS FULLY FUNDED BY IT HAS A 

2451
01:20:51,346 --> 01:20:53,849
SMALL AMOUNT, 1.7 MILLION OF 

2452
01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:55,450
JUMPSTART PAYROLL TAX. OTHER 

2453
01:20:55,450 --> 01:20:56,751
THAN THAT, IT IS FULLY FUNDED BY

2454
01:20:56,751 --> 01:20:59,921
EITHER SEATTLE CITY LIGHT OR BY 

2455
01:20:59,921 --> 01:21:01,790
FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL GRANTS. 

2456
01:21:01,790 --> 01:21:05,493
THOSE GRANTS ARE ALL ON TIMING, 

2457
01:21:05,493 --> 01:21:06,027
ON TIMELINES THAT DON'T 

2458
01:21:06,027 --> 01:21:10,465
CORRESPOND WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR.

2459
01:21:10,465 --> 01:21:11,499
WE'VE GOT SOME OCTOBER TO 

2460
01:21:11,499 --> 01:21:13,134
SEPTEMBER. WE'VE GOT SOME JULY 

2461
01:21:13,134 --> 01:21:16,805
TO JUNE. SO YOU DON'T WHAT YOU 

2462
01:21:16,805 --> 01:21:18,607
SEE IN THE BUDGET, THOUGH THERE 

2463
01:21:18,607 --> 01:21:19,808
MAY BE A DIFFERENCE FROM YEAR TO

2464
01:21:19,808 --> 01:21:21,943
YEAR, FROM CALENDAR YEAR TO 

2465
01:21:21,943 --> 01:21:23,078
CALENDAR YEAR, WE'RE NOT 

2466
01:21:23,078 --> 01:21:25,313
ANTICIPATING ANY REDUCTION IN 

2467
01:21:25,313 --> 01:21:27,916
DELIVERY OF SERVICES FOR 

2468
01:21:27,916 --> 01:21:30,151
WEATHERIZATION WORK, AND WE'RE 

2469
01:21:30,151 --> 01:21:30,785
NOT ANTICIPATING ANY MEANINGFUL 

2470
01:21:30,785 --> 01:21:32,721
CHANGE IN THE GRANTS RECEIVED 

2471
01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:35,090
FOR WEATHERIZATION. 

2472
01:21:35,090 --> 01:21:36,558
-- AND THAT'S ON THE 

2473
01:21:36,558 --> 01:21:39,160
WEATHERIZATION SIDE. AND HOW 

2474
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:39,661
ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERSHIP 

2475
01:21:39,661 --> 01:21:40,629
PROGRAMS? 

2476
01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:42,430
-- YES. THE HOMEOWNERSHIP WAS 

2477
01:21:42,430 --> 01:21:43,899
THE FIRST PIECE OF THE COUNCIL 

2478
01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:45,400
RESTORATION OF THE THREE POINT. 

2479
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,602
-- SO I HEAR YOU SAYING IT'S NOT

2480
01:21:47,602 --> 01:21:48,236
TECHNICALLY A CUT BECAUSE IT WAS

2481
01:21:48,236 --> 01:21:50,405
A ONE TIME AD. OKAY. YEAH. 

2482
01:21:50,405 --> 01:21:51,539
-- I CAN ALSO. 

2483
01:21:51,539 --> 01:21:55,110
-- SHARE AND ADD A LITTLE BIT 

2484
01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:55,710
MORE HERE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 

2485
01:21:55,710 --> 01:21:57,112
HOMEOWNERSHIP IS A VERY HIGH 

2486
01:21:57,112 --> 01:21:58,413
VALUE IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR 

2487
01:21:58,413 --> 01:22:01,750
COMMUNITY. AND WITH MANY OF OUR 

2488
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:03,184
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE 

2489
01:22:03,184 --> 01:22:04,719
ARE REALLY EXCITED. THIS YEAR WE

2490
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:06,221
MOVED FORWARD THE HARVEY 

2491
01:22:06,221 --> 01:22:08,890
PROJECT. SO THAT'S IN THE 

2492
01:22:08,890 --> 01:22:09,491
CENTRAL DISTRICT, A SITE THAT 

2493
01:22:09,491 --> 01:22:11,092
WAS IN OUR PORTFOLIO THAT WILL 

2494
01:22:11,092 --> 01:22:12,427
BE MOVING FORWARD AS A 

2495
01:22:12,427 --> 01:22:13,862
HOMEOWNERSHIP INVESTMENT OVER 

2496
01:22:13,862 --> 01:22:15,497
THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. WE 

2497
01:22:15,497 --> 01:22:17,866
BROUGHT FORWARD THE MONTLAKE 

2498
01:22:17,866 --> 01:22:21,269
PROJECT ALSO THIS YEAR. THAT WAS

2499
01:22:21,269 --> 01:22:21,903
AN INCREDIBLE PARTNERSHIP WITH 

2500
01:22:21,903 --> 01:22:24,205
OUR STATE COLLEAGUES AND THE 

2501
01:22:24,205 --> 01:22:26,975
CITY COUNCIL AND THE OFFICE OF 

2502
01:22:26,975 --> 01:22:29,244
HOUSING MAYOR'S OFFICE TO MOVE 

2503
01:22:29,244 --> 01:22:30,545
FORWARD A PURCHASE AND SALE 

2504
01:22:30,545 --> 01:22:32,347
WHERE THE STATE APPROPRIATED 

2505
01:22:32,347 --> 01:22:33,581
CAPITAL FUNDS TO MOVE THROUGH 

2506
01:22:33,581 --> 01:22:34,849
THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE IN 

2507
01:22:34,849 --> 01:22:37,452
ORDER FOR O TO PURCHASE THE SITE

2508
01:22:37,452 --> 01:22:39,187
FROM THE WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT 

2509
01:22:39,187 --> 01:22:41,823
OF TRANSIT, TRANSPORTATION. WE 

2510
01:22:41,823 --> 01:22:43,258
HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO 

2511
01:22:43,258 --> 01:22:45,760
LEVERAGE STATE DOLLARS IN 

2512
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:46,394
HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS. I'VE 

2513
01:22:46,394 --> 01:22:48,563
SEEN THREE GRANT AGREEMENTS COME

2514
01:22:48,563 --> 01:22:49,531
ACROSS MY DESK IN THE LAST TWO 

2515
01:22:49,531 --> 01:22:51,399
WEEKS FOR CHIP FUNDS FROM THE 

2516
01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:53,301
STATE. THOSE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE 

2517
01:22:53,301 --> 01:22:54,836
FUNDS THAT HELP TO LEVERAGE. WE 

2518
01:22:54,836 --> 01:22:57,138
LEVERAGE THOSE TO BRING OUR 

2519
01:22:57,138 --> 01:22:58,406
HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS FORWARD. 

2520
01:22:58,406 --> 01:23:02,043
SO WE ARE TILTING, AT LEAST LAST

2521
01:23:02,043 --> 01:23:04,112
YEAR, MORE OF OUR CHIP 

2522
01:23:04,112 --> 01:23:06,114
INVESTMENTS THAT WE CAN APPLY 

2523
01:23:06,114 --> 01:23:08,316
FOR FROM THE CITY SIDE ARE GOING

2524
01:23:08,316 --> 01:23:09,584
INTO HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS THAN

2525
01:23:09,584 --> 01:23:10,652
INTO RENTAL PROJECTS, SO THAT WE

2526
01:23:10,652 --> 01:23:13,021
CAN REALLY BRING THOSE PROJECTS 

2527
01:23:13,021 --> 01:23:14,422
FORWARD. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE

2528
01:23:14,422 --> 01:23:16,491
OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL 

2529
01:23:16,491 --> 01:23:19,194
RELATIONS, WE ARE ADVOCATING 

2530
01:23:19,194 --> 01:23:20,962
THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR FOR 

2531
01:23:20,962 --> 01:23:23,098
CAPITAL EARMARKS, FOR 

2532
01:23:23,098 --> 01:23:23,598
HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS. 

2533
01:23:23,598 --> 01:23:24,399
SPECIFICALLY, THIS YEAR, WE'LL 

2534
01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:26,401
BE FOCUSING ON MONTLAKE. LAST 

2535
01:23:26,401 --> 01:23:30,038
YEAR, WE FOCUSED ON CLOVERDALE, 

2536
01:23:30,038 --> 01:23:30,638
SO PROJECTS ARE CONTINUING TO 

2537
01:23:30,638 --> 01:23:33,441
MOVE FORWARD AND SUPPORTED WITH 

2538
01:23:33,441 --> 01:23:35,010
OTHER RESOURCES WHEREVER 

2539
01:23:35,010 --> 01:23:36,311
POSSIBLE. WHEN I WAS I MENTIONED

2540
01:23:36,311 --> 01:23:39,781
I WAS DOWN VISITING RIVERBEND 

2541
01:23:39,781 --> 01:23:42,183
COMMUNITY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO 

2542
01:23:42,183 --> 01:23:44,386
WITH HABITAT'S LEADERSHIP TEAM,

2543
01:23:44,386 --> 01:23:46,554
AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE 

2544
01:23:46,554 --> 01:23:48,390
THE LARGEST PIPELINE EVER 

2545
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:49,791
CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, LARGELY DUE 

2546
01:23:49,791 --> 01:23:51,326
TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT THEY 

2547
01:23:51,326 --> 01:23:52,994
RECEIVE FROM THE SEATTLE OFFICE 

2548
01:23:52,994 --> 01:23:54,729
OF HOUSING. WE ARE CONFIDENT IN 

2549
01:23:54,729 --> 01:23:55,697
THE PIPELINE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT 

2550
01:23:55,697 --> 01:24:00,602
NOW. PROVIDERS ARE VERY BUSY AND

2551
01:24:00,602 --> 01:24:03,772
WE ARE SOON TO ANNOUNCE OUR FALL

2552
01:24:03,772 --> 01:24:05,073
HOMEOWNERSHIP AWARDS. THEY WILL 

2553
01:24:05,073 --> 01:24:06,875
BE COMING FORWARD SHORTLY. WE 

2554
01:24:06,875 --> 01:24:08,443
HAVE A LOT OF UNITS UNDERWAY, 

2555
01:24:08,443 --> 01:24:09,811
AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD 

2556
01:24:09,811 --> 01:24:11,012
PROJECTS COMING, COMING ONLINE 

2557
01:24:11,012 --> 01:24:12,914
IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 

2558
01:24:12,914 --> 01:24:14,549
-- AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THE 

2559
01:24:14,549 --> 01:24:16,051
CHIP THAT YOU WILL BE SEEING IN 

2560
01:24:16,051 --> 01:24:18,219
A GRANT ACCEPTANCE ORDINANCE, I 

2561
01:24:18,219 --> 01:24:20,989
BELIEVE, BEFORE THE END OF THIS 

2562
01:24:20,989 --> 01:24:22,624
YEAR IS 4.5 MILLION FOR 

2563
01:24:22,624 --> 01:24:22,991
HOMEOWNERSHIP. 

2564
01:24:22,991 --> 01:24:24,025
-- AND DIRECTOR, DO YOU HAVE 

2565
01:24:24,025 --> 01:24:24,993
SOMETHING TO ADD? NOTHING. BACK 

2566
01:24:24,993 --> 01:24:26,494
TO YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

2567
01:24:26,494 --> 01:24:27,829
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU 

2568
01:24:27,829 --> 01:24:31,933
FOR THE INITIAL CLARITY THERE. 

2569
01:24:31,933 --> 01:24:34,469
MY SECOND QUESTION GOOD. 

2570
01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:35,603
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA IS ONLY 

2571
01:24:35,603 --> 01:24:37,705
ASKING TWO QUESTIONS. GREAT. MY 

2572
01:24:37,705 --> 01:24:43,378
SECOND QUESTION IS PERTAINS TO 

2573
01:24:43,378 --> 01:24:44,646
THE FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0

2574
01:24:44,646 --> 01:24:46,081
PROGRAM. AND I DON'T KNOW IF 

2575
01:24:46,081 --> 01:24:48,082
THIS IS BEST. THIS QUESTION IS, 

2576
01:24:48,082 --> 01:24:53,655
IS, IS BEST FOR YOU OR OPCD. AND

2577
01:24:53,655 --> 01:24:54,322
I SEE OPCD DIRECTOR IN THE BACK.

2578
01:24:54,322 --> 01:24:57,826
SO MAYBE, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THIS 

2579
01:24:57,826 --> 01:24:59,227
IS FAIR WARNING FOR SIMILAR 

2580
01:24:59,227 --> 01:24:59,828
QUESTION LINE OF QUESTIONING 

2581
01:24:59,828 --> 01:25:02,163
MIGHT COME UP, BUT SO THE 

2582
01:25:02,163 --> 01:25:05,366
FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0 

2583
01:25:05,366 --> 01:25:07,469
PROGRAM IS THE LATEST FEDERAL 

2584
01:25:07,469 --> 01:25:11,406
ITERATION OF COMPLEX INCENTIVE 

2585
01:25:11,406 --> 01:25:14,075
PROGRAM TO INCENTIVIZE 

2586
01:25:14,075 --> 01:25:17,345
DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH IN KEY AREAS

2587
01:25:17,345 --> 01:25:18,079
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 

2588
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:20,181
DEEMS APPROPRIATE. WELL, FEDERAL

2589
01:25:20,181 --> 01:25:23,351
AND STATE GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE 

2590
01:25:23,351 --> 01:25:24,819
THE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE 

2591
01:25:24,819 --> 01:25:27,689
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN JULY OR 

2592
01:25:27,689 --> 01:25:30,892
SOMETHING SUBMITTED BECAUSE 

2593
01:25:30,892 --> 01:25:32,994
EVERYONE WANTS MANY 

2594
01:25:32,994 --> 01:25:33,528
JURISDICTIONS WANT THEIR 

2595
01:25:33,528 --> 01:25:34,929
SPECIFIC CENSUS TRACTS TO BE 

2596
01:25:34,929 --> 01:25:36,164
LISTED. A FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY 

2597
01:25:36,164 --> 01:25:37,198
ZONES. THERE'S AN INTENSE 

2598
01:25:37,198 --> 01:25:40,135
AMOUNT OF LOBBYING GOING ON. AND

2599
01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:44,272
THEN ALL CULMINATED IN A. 

2600
01:25:44,272 --> 01:25:45,173
BECAUSE THE GOVERNORS OF EACH 

2601
01:25:45,173 --> 01:25:48,376
STATE ARE EMPOWERED TO ACTUALLY 

2602
01:25:48,376 --> 01:25:51,713
SELECT A SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITY 

2603
01:25:51,713 --> 01:25:53,681
ZONES WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTIONS

2604
01:25:53,681 --> 01:25:55,183
AND. AND SEPARATELY, I WILL LOVE

2605
01:25:55,183 --> 01:25:58,286
A LIST OF, OF, OF THOSE IN 

2606
01:25:58,286 --> 01:26:02,690
SEATTLE, BUT IRRESPECTIVE OF THE

2607
01:26:02,690 --> 01:26:05,560
SPECIFIC ZONE SELECTED IN THE 

2608
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,030
CITY OF SEATTLE, HOW DO YOU 

2609
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:12,567
ANTICIPATE THOSE DESIGNATED 

2610
01:26:12,567 --> 01:26:16,738
OPPORTUNITY ZONES TO IMPACT THE 

2611
01:26:16,738 --> 01:26:18,172
OVERALL. HOUSING LANDSCAPE IN 

2612
01:26:18,172 --> 01:26:21,743
THE CITY OF SEATTLE GOING 

2613
01:26:21,743 --> 01:26:22,010
FORWARD? 

2614
01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:24,279
-- THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT SUMMARY

2615
01:26:24,279 --> 01:26:24,879
OF OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT I 

2616
01:26:24,879 --> 01:26:25,947
WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO 

2617
01:26:25,947 --> 01:26:27,749
PROVIDE MYSELF THREE YEARS AGO. 

2618
01:26:27,749 --> 01:26:29,751
SO WELL DONE. ON THE COMPLEXITY 

2619
01:26:29,751 --> 01:26:30,885
OF THE PROCESS THAT OUR TEAMS 

2620
01:26:30,885 --> 01:26:33,888
JUST WENT THROUGH TO SUBMIT 

2621
01:26:33,888 --> 01:26:35,156
PROPOSED NEW OPPORTUNITY ZONES 

2622
01:26:35,156 --> 01:26:37,325
TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, OUR 

2623
01:26:37,325 --> 01:26:38,993
OFFICE OF HOUSING FOLKS, OPCD 

2624
01:26:38,993 --> 01:26:41,563
OPCD, WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH

2625
01:26:41,563 --> 01:26:43,464
OTHER COLLEAGUES IN THE CITY TO 

2626
01:26:43,464 --> 01:26:45,099
GO THROUGH A REALLY INTENTIONAL 

2627
01:26:45,099 --> 01:26:46,734
PROCESS, EXAMINING A LOT OF 

2628
01:26:46,734 --> 01:26:50,438
DATA, TALKING TO PROVIDERS AND 

2629
01:26:50,438 --> 01:26:51,506
DEVELOPERS IN THESE AREAS. YOU 

2630
01:26:51,506 --> 01:26:54,976
HAD TO LOOK AT YOUR EXISTING 

2631
01:26:54,976 --> 01:26:57,412
OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND MAKE AN 

2632
01:26:57,412 --> 01:26:57,979
ARGUMENT FOR WHY THESE NEW 

2633
01:26:57,979 --> 01:26:58,947
OPPORTUNITY ZONES WOULD BE 

2634
01:26:58,947 --> 01:27:00,848
ESTABLISHED. DIRECTOR KIERAN 

2635
01:27:00,848 --> 01:27:01,749
COULD SPEAK MORE TO THIS AS 

2636
01:27:01,749 --> 01:27:03,851
WELL, BUT WE DID GO FORWARD 

2637
01:27:03,851 --> 01:27:09,257
WITH, I BELIEVE, A ZONE IN FIRST

2638
01:27:09,257 --> 01:27:10,992
HILL ZONE NEAR CHINATOWN 

2639
01:27:10,992 --> 01:27:12,760
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, AND THEN

2640
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,963
WE WERE SUPPORTING A NORTHGATE 

2641
01:27:14,963 --> 01:27:16,197
ZONE AS WELL. SEATTLE HOUSING 

2642
01:27:16,197 --> 01:27:17,532
AUTHORITY ENDED UP CARRYING THAT

2643
01:27:17,532 --> 01:27:19,367
ONE FORWARD AND I BELIEVE THOSE 

2644
01:27:19,367 --> 01:27:20,401
ALL MOVED FORWARD COULD BE 

2645
01:27:20,401 --> 01:27:22,704
MISSING 1 OR 2 ON THE LIST. BUT 

2646
01:27:22,704 --> 01:27:24,906
WE WE WENT THROUGH A REALLY 

2647
01:27:24,906 --> 01:27:26,541
INTENTIONAL INTERDEPARTMENTAL 

2648
01:27:26,541 --> 01:27:27,141
PROCESS TO PUT THOSE FORWARD. 

2649
01:27:27,141 --> 01:27:28,309
AND WE COULD WE WERE HAPPY TO 

2650
01:27:28,309 --> 01:27:29,611
SEND YOU A LIST. THESE ZONES 

2651
01:27:29,611 --> 01:27:31,479
MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS 

2652
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:32,080
OF THE FINANCING THAT YOU CAN 

2653
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,681
SECURE TO MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD.

2654
01:27:33,681 --> 01:27:36,251
IT MAKES A BIG A BIG DIFFERENCE 

2655
01:27:36,251 --> 01:27:37,752
FOR THE CAPITAL STACK. SO IT'S,

2656
01:27:37,752 --> 01:27:39,420
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR KEY 

2657
01:27:39,420 --> 01:27:40,722
PROJECTS THAT WE KNEW WERE IN 

2658
01:27:40,722 --> 01:27:43,057
THE PIPELINE TO ACHIEVE THOSE 

2659
01:27:43,057 --> 01:27:45,760
DESIGNATIONS. AND WE'RE WE'RE 

2660
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,527
EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRESS SO 

2661
01:27:46,527 --> 01:27:46,961
FAR. 

2662
01:27:46,961 --> 01:27:50,598
-- THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. 

2663
01:27:50,598 --> 01:27:53,001
AND YEAH, I WAS TRACKING THAT 

2664
01:27:53,001 --> 01:27:53,968
CLOSELY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND 

2665
01:27:53,968 --> 01:27:55,169
KIND OF FELL OFF A LITTLE BIT 

2666
01:27:55,169 --> 01:27:56,604
AND WAS LOOKING AT SOME 

2667
01:27:56,604 --> 01:27:57,438
OPPORTUNITIES IN MY OWN 

2668
01:27:57,438 --> 01:27:59,507
DISTRICT, AND INCLUDING IN SOUTH

2669
01:27:59,507 --> 01:28:01,476
PARK. AND, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF

2670
01:28:01,476 --> 01:28:02,110
STAKEHOLDER THAT NEEDS TO BE 

2671
01:28:02,110 --> 01:28:04,379
INVOLVED. SO I DIDN'T END UP 

2672
01:28:04,379 --> 01:28:05,246
ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THAT. 

2673
01:28:05,246 --> 01:28:06,280
SOUNDS LIKE THAT WASN'T EVEN ONE

2674
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,782
OF THE ONES THAT WAS SELECTED. 

2675
01:28:07,782 --> 01:28:10,451
BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE CAN GET A 

2676
01:28:10,451 --> 01:28:13,187
LIST OFFLINE OFF THE FINAL. THE 

2677
01:28:13,187 --> 01:28:14,489
FINAL ONES. AND BUT I APPRECIATE

2678
01:28:14,489 --> 01:28:15,623
THE INITIAL CLARITY. THANK YOU. 

2679
01:28:15,623 --> 01:28:16,524
THANK YOU CHAIR. 

2680
01:28:16,524 --> 01:28:20,561
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. 

2681
01:28:20,561 --> 01:28:21,129
SOCCER COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

2682
01:28:21,129 --> 01:28:22,130
THANK YOU, CHAIR. I APOLOGIZE 

2683
01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:24,399
FOR BEING LATE MISSING THE THE 

2684
01:28:24,399 --> 01:28:28,036
BRIEFING MAYOR'S CHIEF OF POLICE

2685
01:28:28,036 --> 01:28:31,439
SELECTION COMMITTEE IT'S KEEPING

2686
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,675
ME BUSY, SO I MISS. SOME OF 

2687
01:28:33,675 --> 01:28:35,910
THESE MAY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP 

2688
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:36,444
DURING THE COURSE OF THE 

2689
01:28:36,444 --> 01:28:39,080
BRIEFING, BUT SO WELCOME, 

2690
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:39,781
DIRECTOR LARSON, BY THE WAY, 

2691
01:28:39,781 --> 01:28:42,550
MISS GREER, OBVIOUSLY DIRECTOR 

2692
01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:45,620
PANUCCI AND OUR OWN MR. WHITSON 

2693
01:28:45,620 --> 01:28:47,455
I SEE IN HERE, BY THE WAY, THE 

2694
01:28:47,455 --> 01:28:49,157
ACCOUNTING, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET

2695
01:28:49,157 --> 01:28:53,394
PIECE, THE FUND SWAPS AND 

2696
01:28:53,394 --> 01:28:55,830
EVERYTHING ELSE CONTINUE ON THE 

2697
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:56,631
PRESERVATION PIECE. YOU KNOW, I 

2698
01:28:56,631 --> 01:29:00,268
LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, IN TWO 

2699
01:29:00,268 --> 01:29:02,970
WAYS. ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE, 

2700
01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:04,005
ONE IS THE STABILIZATION, THE 

2701
01:29:04,005 --> 01:29:06,140
MAINTENANCE PIECE I BRING UP 

2702
01:29:06,140 --> 01:29:09,644
BECAUSE IT HAS HUGE IMPACTS ON 

2703
01:29:09,644 --> 01:29:12,113
THE COMMUNITIES. I HAVE BEEN 

2704
01:29:12,113 --> 01:29:14,015
DOING PUBLIC SAFETY WALKS AND, 

2705
01:29:14,015 --> 01:29:18,920
YOU KNOW, WALKING BY A HOUSING 

2706
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,723
PROVIDER, I WON'T NAME AND, YOU

2707
01:29:21,723 --> 01:29:24,659
KNOW, ALL ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF 

2708
01:29:24,659 --> 01:29:26,594
IT IN THE ALLEY, MASSIVE RATS 

2709
01:29:26,594 --> 01:29:28,129
NEST. AND THEN LOOKING DOWN THE 

2710
01:29:28,129 --> 01:29:29,397
SIDE, IT CONTINUES. AND ONE 

2711
01:29:29,397 --> 01:29:31,499
WONDERS IF IT'S LIKE THIS ON 

2712
01:29:31,499 --> 01:29:32,233
THE OUTSIDE, WHAT IS IT LIKE IN 

2713
01:29:32,233 --> 01:29:34,202
THE INSIDE? AND THIS IS ONE OF 

2714
01:29:34,202 --> 01:29:35,403
THE CHALLENGES, ONE REASON WHY 

2715
01:29:35,403 --> 01:29:36,904
WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS IS

2716
01:29:36,904 --> 01:29:38,673
THE CONDITIONS OF THE HOUSING 

2717
01:29:38,673 --> 01:29:40,875
STOCK. AND IT HAS A MAJOR 

2718
01:29:40,875 --> 01:29:42,276
FACTOR. AND IT GOES TO LIKE, YOU

2719
01:29:42,276 --> 01:29:43,578
KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE ON 

2720
01:29:43,578 --> 01:29:46,047
THE STREETS, HOW MANY ACTUALLY 

2721
01:29:46,047 --> 01:29:47,648
HAVE HOUSING BUT ARE CHOOSING 

2722
01:29:47,648 --> 01:29:49,517
FOR DIFFERENT REASONS NOT TO BE 

2723
01:29:49,517 --> 01:29:51,085
THERE OR TO BE ON THE STREETS 

2724
01:29:51,085 --> 01:29:53,788
LONGER THAN THEY WOULD 

2725
01:29:53,788 --> 01:29:56,624
OTHERWISE. SO I BRING THAT UP. 

2726
01:29:56,624 --> 01:29:57,625
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AGAIN? I 

2727
01:29:57,625 --> 01:29:59,160
MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT IN THE 

2728
01:29:59,160 --> 01:29:59,827
BRIEFING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN 

2729
01:29:59,827 --> 01:30:01,996
TERMS OF THE STRATEGY AND THE 

2730
01:30:01,996 --> 01:30:03,231
LINKAGES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY 

2731
01:30:03,231 --> 01:30:05,233
SIDE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT 

2732
01:30:05,233 --> 01:30:07,802
COMES UP AND EXECUTIVE SIDE IN 

2733
01:30:07,802 --> 01:30:10,071
TERMS OF THE LINKS BETWEEN THE 

2734
01:30:10,071 --> 01:30:11,873
MAINTENANCE PIECES AND THE 

2735
01:30:11,873 --> 01:30:15,443
PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECTS? 

2736
01:30:15,443 --> 01:30:16,110
-- IT'S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT TO 

2737
01:30:16,110 --> 01:30:17,178
AVOID BLIGHT IN NEIGHBORHOODS. 

2738
01:30:17,178 --> 01:30:19,714
THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, VACANT 

2739
01:30:19,714 --> 01:30:24,085
LOTS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO 

2740
01:30:24,085 --> 01:30:24,585
CHALLENGES IN DIFFERENT 

2741
01:30:24,585 --> 01:30:26,888
NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S IT'S A LOT

2742
01:30:26,888 --> 01:30:28,089
THAT OPERATORS ARE FACING OUT 

2743
01:30:28,089 --> 01:30:30,191
THERE RIGHT NOW. AND THE COSTS 

2744
01:30:30,191 --> 01:30:32,059
CAN BE INCREDIBLY HIGH FOR WHAT 

2745
01:30:32,059 --> 01:30:33,694
THEY HAVE COMING IN ON THE 

2746
01:30:33,694 --> 01:30:35,463
REVENUE SIDE. THIS IS PART OF 

2747
01:30:35,463 --> 01:30:38,065
WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS WITH

2748
01:30:38,065 --> 01:30:40,134
A NUMBER OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT

2749
01:30:40,134 --> 01:30:42,336
WE HAVE BROUGHT INTO THE SECTOR,

2750
01:30:42,336 --> 01:30:44,872
AND IT'S NOT SOLVING EVERY 

2751
01:30:44,872 --> 01:30:47,041
SINGLE PROBLEM. I KNOW FROM MY 

2752
01:30:47,041 --> 01:30:49,343
TIME AS AN OPERATOR OF 

2753
01:30:49,343 --> 01:30:51,746
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT ONE DAY 

2754
01:30:51,746 --> 01:30:53,347
YOU COULD WALK BY A BUILDING AND

2755
01:30:53,347 --> 01:30:57,552
IT WOULD LOOK NOT GREAT. AND 

2756
01:30:57,552 --> 01:31:00,888
INVESTMENT CAN GO IN, CHANGE THE

2757
01:31:00,888 --> 01:31:02,590
FACE OF THE PROJECT AND THINGS 

2758
01:31:02,590 --> 01:31:06,194
LOOK REALLY DIFFERENT. A COUPLE 

2759
01:31:06,194 --> 01:31:07,328
MONTHS LATER, WE WE KNOW THAT 

2760
01:31:07,328 --> 01:31:11,599
THERE ARE NEEDS AND WE'VE TAKEN

2761
01:31:11,599 --> 01:31:12,233
SERIOUSLY USING OUR INVESTMENTS 

2762
01:31:12,233 --> 01:31:13,467
IN THE POLICY TOOLS THAT WE HAVE

2763
01:31:13,467 --> 01:31:17,972
TO TRY TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS IN 

2764
01:31:17,972 --> 01:31:18,539
THE AFFORDABLE HOMES IN OUR 

2765
01:31:18,539 --> 01:31:19,440
PORTFOLIO, MORE WORK TO DO, FOR 

2766
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:22,677
SURE. 

2767
01:31:22,677 --> 01:31:23,144
-- THANK YOU. ON THE 

2768
01:31:23,144 --> 01:31:24,745
STABILIZATION FRONT, I THINK A 

2769
01:31:24,745 --> 01:31:26,581
LOT OF PEOPLE TEND TO FORGET 

2770
01:31:26,581 --> 01:31:28,149
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU KNOW, 

2771
01:31:28,149 --> 01:31:29,417
THEY'RE LANDLORDS. AND, YOU 

2772
01:31:29,417 --> 01:31:30,418
KNOW, SOME OF THE LANDLORD 

2773
01:31:30,418 --> 01:31:33,020
TENANT ISSUES, AS I'VE SAID 

2774
01:31:33,020 --> 01:31:34,722
BEFORE, LIKE TWO YEARS GROUPS 

2775
01:31:34,722 --> 01:31:35,556
COMING IN SAYING, HEY, WE NEED 

2776
01:31:35,556 --> 01:31:36,891
TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE'RE 

2777
01:31:36,891 --> 01:31:38,159
HURTING, WE'RE LANDLORDS, WE'RE

2778
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:39,961
SUFFERING FROM REGULAR SMALL 

2779
01:31:39,961 --> 01:31:41,762
SCALE LANDLORDS OR EVEN THE 

2780
01:31:41,762 --> 01:31:45,466
CORPORATE TYPES. AND WE NEED 

2781
01:31:45,466 --> 01:31:46,200
RELIEF. WE NEED CHANGES IN THE 

2782
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,969
LAWS AND SO FORTH. IN TERMS OF 

2783
01:31:47,969 --> 01:31:49,704
LANDLORD TENANT, THAT DIDN'T 

2784
01:31:49,704 --> 01:31:50,271
REALLY HAPPEN FOR DIFFERENT 

2785
01:31:50,271 --> 01:31:55,376
REASONS. AND WE'RE HERE TODAY. 

2786
01:31:55,376 --> 01:31:59,380
WITH THAT SAID, FIRST, I WANT TO

2787
01:31:59,380 --> 01:32:01,182
THANK YOU FOR THE SEATTLE 

2788
01:32:01,182 --> 01:32:04,051
HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN REPORT. 

2789
01:32:04,051 --> 01:32:06,354
THE SHIP PLAN, COLLEAGUES, THIS 

2790
01:32:06,354 --> 01:32:07,455
KIND OF THAT POINT THAT I JUST 

2791
01:32:07,455 --> 01:32:09,824
MADE KIND OF GOES TO, YOU KNOW, 

2792
01:32:09,824 --> 01:32:10,424
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH 

2793
01:32:10,424 --> 01:32:11,759
THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SEATTLE 

2794
01:32:11,759 --> 01:32:12,627
HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN, YOU 

2795
01:32:12,627 --> 01:32:13,594
KNOW, THE FIRST YEAR DID A GREAT

2796
01:32:13,594 --> 01:32:15,563
JOB OF LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE 

2797
01:32:15,563 --> 01:32:18,966
HOUSING AND CENTRAL STAFF. MISS 

2798
01:32:18,966 --> 01:32:20,201
LEBREC LOVED IT. MY TEAM LOVED 

2799
01:32:20,201 --> 01:32:22,136
IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN LAST 

2800
01:32:22,136 --> 01:32:22,870
YEAR, THIS TIME WE BOUGHT A SLY 

2801
01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:25,373
IN TO SAY, HEY, OKAY, AFFORDABLE

2802
01:32:25,373 --> 01:32:27,141
HOUSING, BUT PERMANENT 

2803
01:32:27,141 --> 01:32:27,775
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ON ONE SIDE 

2804
01:32:27,775 --> 01:32:29,043
AND ALSO SOCIAL HOUSING ON THE 

2805
01:32:29,043 --> 01:32:30,711
OTHER. AND HOW THAT PLAYS IN 

2806
01:32:30,711 --> 01:32:32,246
TOGETHER, HOW IT IMPACTS THE 

2807
01:32:32,246 --> 01:32:33,648
STRATEGY THAT YOU HAVE. CAN YOU 

2808
01:32:33,648 --> 01:32:36,517
SPEAK TO THAT? IF IT DOES IMPACT

2809
01:32:36,517 --> 01:32:37,618
HOW IT IMPACTS AND SO FORTH, IN 

2810
01:32:37,618 --> 01:32:40,187
TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM 

2811
01:32:40,187 --> 01:32:43,224
MORE IN ITS ENTIRETY? 

2812
01:32:43,224 --> 01:32:43,491
-- SURE. 

2813
01:32:43,491 --> 01:32:45,893
-- YES. YOU YOU WERE ABSENT FROM

2814
01:32:45,893 --> 01:32:46,460
MY EARLIER REFERENCE TO THE 

2815
01:32:46,460 --> 01:32:47,995
SEATTLE HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN.

2816
01:32:47,995 --> 01:32:50,298
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. THAT'S A 

2817
01:32:50,298 --> 01:32:52,400
VERY IMPORTANT SLY RESPONSE THAT

2818
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,801
WE'VE WE'VE CONTRIBUTED TO THE

2819
01:32:53,801 --> 01:32:55,002
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND IT WAS

2820
01:32:55,002 --> 01:32:57,872
A GOOD EXERCISE. THE ONE THE 

2821
01:32:57,872 --> 01:32:58,673
RESPONSE THAT WE SUBMITTED THIS 

2822
01:32:58,673 --> 01:33:02,476
YEAR, YOU CAN SEE THE SEATTLE 

2823
01:33:02,476 --> 01:33:03,110
SOCIAL HOUSING PDA INVESTMENTS 

2824
01:33:03,110 --> 01:33:05,346
IN PINK TO SORT OF REFLECT SOME 

2825
01:33:05,346 --> 01:33:06,013
OF THEIR BRANDING THAT THEY'VE 

2826
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:07,281
BEEN BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL

2827
01:33:07,281 --> 01:33:10,318
AS WELL. THEY ARE PLANNING 

2828
01:33:10,318 --> 01:33:11,919
CURRENTLY WITH WHAT THEIR 

2829
01:33:11,919 --> 01:33:14,488
CHARTER PROVIDES FOR THEM TO DO 

2830
01:33:14,488 --> 01:33:17,658
IS THEIR INCOME LEVELS ARE 10% 

2831
01:33:17,658 --> 01:33:21,729
AT 30% AMI, 30% AT AT 50, 60, 

2832
01:33:21,729 --> 01:33:24,665
30%, AT 80, 30% AT 120. SO 

2833
01:33:24,665 --> 01:33:25,933
THEY'RE DOING A BIT OF A SPREAD

2834
01:33:25,933 --> 01:33:28,202
THAT GOES FURTHER UP THE INCOME 

2835
01:33:28,202 --> 01:33:29,870
CHART THAN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING

2836
01:33:29,870 --> 01:33:32,606
CURRENTLY INVESTS IN. AND YOU 

2837
01:33:32,606 --> 01:33:34,075
CAN SEE WHAT THEY PROJECTED OVER

2838
01:33:34,075 --> 01:33:36,077
THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS REFLECTED

2839
01:33:36,077 --> 01:33:37,445
IN THAT RESPONSE TO THE SLY. 

2840
01:33:37,445 --> 01:33:40,081
HAPPY TO SEND IT OVER TO. BUT 

2841
01:33:40,081 --> 01:33:41,515
THIS CHART'S BEEN VERY RELEVANT

2842
01:33:41,515 --> 01:33:43,918
FOR US AS WE ARE EXAMINING WHAT 

2843
01:33:43,918 --> 01:33:45,419
OUR INVESTMENTS AND POLICIES 

2844
01:33:45,419 --> 01:33:47,021
WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE YEAR AHEAD

2845
01:33:47,021 --> 01:33:49,957
TO SEE WHAT PROGRESS WE MIGHT BE

2846
01:33:49,957 --> 01:33:50,625
MAKING. YOU ALSO ASKED FOR 

2847
01:33:50,625 --> 01:33:51,859
SEATTLE HOUSING AUTHORITY, SO 

2848
01:33:51,859 --> 01:33:53,728
WE'VE ALSO PUT THAT THE WHAT 

2849
01:33:53,728 --> 01:33:55,796
SEATTLE HOUSING AUTHORITY 

2850
01:33:55,796 --> 01:33:57,465
PROJECTED TO BRING ONLINE IN THE

2851
01:33:57,465 --> 01:33:59,700
NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. AND LARGELY,

2852
01:33:59,700 --> 01:34:00,801
WE JUST STILL HAVE SUCH AN 

2853
01:34:00,801 --> 01:34:03,437
ENORMOUS GAP BELOW 50% OF AREA 

2854
01:34:03,437 --> 01:34:05,740
MEDIAN INCOME IN SEATTLE. AND SO

2855
01:34:05,740 --> 01:34:07,074
THAT IS WHERE THE OFFICE OF 

2856
01:34:07,074 --> 01:34:08,509
HOUSING WILL BE FOCUSING OUR 

2857
01:34:08,509 --> 01:34:09,543
INVESTMENTS. AND IT'S REALLY 

2858
01:34:09,543 --> 01:34:13,347
HELPED US TO NARROW THAT FOCUS. 

2859
01:34:13,347 --> 01:34:14,649
-- WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE 

2860
01:34:14,649 --> 01:34:15,716
REPORT. AND I ACTUALLY I'M 

2861
01:34:15,716 --> 01:34:16,917
LOOKING AT THE GRAPH RIGHT NOW. 

2862
01:34:16,917 --> 01:34:18,853
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS. IT 

2863
01:34:18,853 --> 01:34:19,487
SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BRIEFING

2864
01:34:19,487 --> 01:34:20,354
BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD HELP. 

2865
01:34:20,354 --> 01:34:21,589
I'M NOT SURE IF MY COLLEAGUES 

2866
01:34:21,589 --> 01:34:22,923
HAVE SEEN IT. THIS THIS MEMO 

2867
01:34:22,923 --> 01:34:26,427
CAME OUT ON JUNE 30th. IT WAS 

2868
01:34:26,427 --> 01:34:28,929
DIRECTED TO HOUSING CHAIR 

2869
01:34:28,929 --> 01:34:30,464
FOSTER, BUT IT GOES TO THIS. AND

2870
01:34:30,464 --> 01:34:32,033
I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY 

2871
01:34:32,033 --> 01:34:33,234
IMPORTANT FOR FOR EXAMPLE, IN 

2872
01:34:33,234 --> 01:34:35,302
TERMS OF STRATEGIES, YOU KNOW, 

2873
01:34:35,302 --> 01:34:40,374
AND THIS GOES TO BUDGET, THE 

2874
01:34:40,374 --> 01:34:41,942
SEATTLE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, WE 

2875
01:34:41,942 --> 01:34:43,277
TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, ALL 

2876
01:34:43,277 --> 01:34:44,512
THE DIFFERENT TAXES AND SO 

2877
01:34:44,512 --> 01:34:46,847
FORTH. WELL, THE LATEST ONE IS 

2878
01:34:46,847 --> 01:34:47,448
THE SOCIAL HOUSING DEVELOPER, 

2879
01:34:47,448 --> 01:34:48,215
WHICH I HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE. WE

2880
01:34:48,215 --> 01:34:51,318
NEED IT TO SUCCEED. BUT YOU 

2881
01:34:51,318 --> 01:34:54,588
KNOW, THEIR REVENUE IN 2025 WAS 

2882
01:34:54,588 --> 01:34:56,991
115 MILLION. I DON'T EXPECT 

2883
01:34:56,991 --> 01:34:59,560
ANYTHING. I'VE SEEN NOTHING TO 

2884
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,695
SUGGEST IT'S GOING TO DROP OFF 

2885
01:35:01,695 --> 01:35:03,798
PRECIPITOUSLY OR SO THAT'S 

2886
01:35:03,798 --> 01:35:05,566
STRONG THAT THE SEATTLE 

2887
01:35:05,566 --> 01:35:06,133
TAXPAYERS ARE DOING TO THE 

2888
01:35:06,133 --> 01:35:08,369
HOUSING SPACE. AND IN A LOT OF 

2889
01:35:08,369 --> 01:35:11,405
WAYS, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE YOU

2890
01:35:11,405 --> 01:35:12,073
DID THE SHIP REPORT IN TERMS OF.

2891
01:35:12,073 --> 01:35:14,675
BUT IT ALSO SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW,

2892
01:35:14,675 --> 01:35:16,310
CBO ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 

2893
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:18,012
DOES. SO DIRECTOR PANUCCI DOES 

2894
01:35:18,012 --> 01:35:20,047
DOES CBO DOES BUDGET OFFICE LOOK

2895
01:35:20,047 --> 01:35:21,649
AT THE MONEY. THAT'S THE SOCIAL

2896
01:35:21,649 --> 01:35:23,751
HOUSING. SEATTLE SOCIAL HOUSING 

2897
01:35:23,751 --> 01:35:24,618
DEVELOPER. LET ME SAY THAT 

2898
01:35:24,618 --> 01:35:26,620
AGAIN. THE SEATTLE SOCIAL 

2899
01:35:26,620 --> 01:35:28,189
HOUSING DEVELOPER THAT IS 

2900
01:35:28,189 --> 01:35:28,756
GETTING MONEY FROM SEATTLE 

2901
01:35:28,756 --> 01:35:30,357
TAXPAYERS, IS THAT INCLUDED IN 

2902
01:35:30,357 --> 01:35:32,126
THE CALCULATIONS IN TERMS OF 

2903
01:35:32,126 --> 01:35:35,262
WHAT WE'RE DOING BUDGET WISE, 

2904
01:35:35,262 --> 01:35:36,163
GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 

2905
01:35:36,163 --> 01:35:38,065
SEATTLE THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE 

2906
01:35:38,065 --> 01:35:42,103
ARE RAISING THAT FOR THE HOUSING

2907
01:35:42,103 --> 01:35:42,336
PIECE? 

2908
01:35:42,336 --> 01:35:45,339
-- IT ISN'T IT IS NOT INCLUDED 

2909
01:35:45,339 --> 01:35:47,074
IN THE CITY BUDGET. SO IT'S NOT

2910
01:35:47,074 --> 01:35:49,043
FUNDING. WE HAVE ANY CONTROL 

2911
01:35:49,043 --> 01:35:50,978
OVER, ALTHOUGH IT IS CERTAINLY A

2912
01:35:50,978 --> 01:35:52,646
PART OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT 

2913
01:35:52,646 --> 01:35:55,249
THE OVERALL INVESTMENTS FROM 

2914
01:35:55,249 --> 01:35:57,151
SEATTLE TAXPAYERS IN IN 

2915
01:35:57,151 --> 01:35:59,587
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WE 

2916
01:35:59,587 --> 01:36:00,154
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THOSE 

2917
01:36:00,154 --> 01:36:03,858
INVESTMENTS. BUT BECAUSE THERE 

2918
01:36:03,858 --> 01:36:05,159
ISN'T ANY IT IS NOT REFLECTED 

2919
01:36:05,159 --> 01:36:06,093
IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT IS NOT 

2920
01:36:06,093 --> 01:36:07,361
MONEY THAT COMES TO US. I WILL 

2921
01:36:07,361 --> 01:36:11,165
SAY THERE IS A MINOR. 

2922
01:36:11,165 --> 01:36:12,867
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT FUNDING 

2923
01:36:12,867 --> 01:36:15,169
THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND 

2924
01:36:15,169 --> 01:36:16,203
REVENUE FORECAST DOES DO THE 

2925
01:36:16,203 --> 01:36:17,471
FORECASTING OF THAT REVENUE 

2926
01:36:17,471 --> 01:36:19,940
SOURCE ON BEHALF OF THE SOCIAL 

2927
01:36:19,940 --> 01:36:21,775
HOUSING DEVELOPER, AND THEY DO 

2928
01:36:21,775 --> 01:36:24,712
COMPENSATE US FOR THAT WORK. AND

2929
01:36:24,712 --> 01:36:25,746
SO THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE IN 

2930
01:36:25,746 --> 01:36:28,048
THE BUDGET. 

2931
01:36:28,048 --> 01:36:29,717
-- SO THAT MONEY THAT WE DO 

2932
01:36:29,717 --> 01:36:30,284
RECEIVE THROUGH THE SOCIAL 

2933
01:36:30,284 --> 01:36:32,653
HOUSING FUND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD

2934
01:36:32,653 --> 01:36:34,388
BE PART OF THE CALCULATIONS IN 

2935
01:36:34,388 --> 01:36:35,789
TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HARD 

2936
01:36:35,789 --> 01:36:37,658
CHOICES. IF IT'S $115 MILLION, 

2937
01:36:37,658 --> 01:36:39,059
THAT COULD GIVE FLEXIBILITY IN 

2938
01:36:39,059 --> 01:36:40,194
TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH 

2939
01:36:40,194 --> 01:36:41,929
SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT MAY

2940
01:36:41,929 --> 01:36:43,964
HAVE TO GO TO OTHER PRIORITIES 

2941
01:36:43,964 --> 01:36:45,599
AND THE LIKE. AND THAT'S KIND OF

2942
01:36:45,599 --> 01:36:48,135
THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 

2943
01:36:48,135 --> 01:36:49,970
DIRECTION OF THE QUESTION TO YOU

2944
01:36:49,970 --> 01:36:50,604
AS BUDGET DIRECTOR IN THE SENSE 

2945
01:36:50,604 --> 01:36:52,306
OF IS THAT PART OF THE 

2946
01:36:52,306 --> 01:36:55,476
CALCULATION? LIKE, WE CAN WE CAN

2947
01:36:55,476 --> 01:36:56,610
ACCEPT A PIECE HERE AND USE THIS

2948
01:36:56,610 --> 01:36:59,380
MONEY ELSEWHERE, BECAUSE WE DO 

2949
01:36:59,380 --> 01:37:02,183
HAVE 115 MILLION COMING INTO 

2950
01:37:02,183 --> 01:37:02,583
HOUSING OVERALL. 

2951
01:37:02,583 --> 01:37:05,753
-- I THINK OVERALL, THERE ARE 

2952
01:37:05,753 --> 01:37:07,188
SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN 

2953
01:37:07,188 --> 01:37:08,823
HOUSING THAT ARE NECESSARY TO 

2954
01:37:08,823 --> 01:37:09,790
ADDRESS THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THE

2955
01:37:09,790 --> 01:37:12,626
COMMUNITY. SO THAT IS MORE OF A 

2956
01:37:12,626 --> 01:37:14,862
POLICY CONSIDERATION THAN A IN 

2957
01:37:14,862 --> 01:37:16,430
TERMS OF I GUESS I'M NOT 

2958
01:37:16,430 --> 01:37:17,798
ENTIRELY CLEAR ON HOW TO ANSWER 

2959
01:37:17,798 --> 01:37:19,833
ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THE THE 

2960
01:37:19,833 --> 01:37:22,269
MONEY THAT THE SOCIAL HOUSING 

2961
01:37:22,269 --> 01:37:23,904
DEVELOPER RECEIVES IS NOT 

2962
01:37:23,904 --> 01:37:26,507
REFLECTED IN THE CITY BUDGET, 

2963
01:37:26,507 --> 01:37:28,209
NOR DO WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO SORT

2964
01:37:28,209 --> 01:37:30,344
OF DIRECT HOW THEY ARE USING 

2965
01:37:30,344 --> 01:37:33,113
THOSE FUNDS AS THE CITY, AS THE 

2966
01:37:33,113 --> 01:37:35,015
CITY BUDGET OFFICE. 

2967
01:37:35,015 --> 01:37:37,117
-- BUT IN TIGHT TIMES, IF 

2968
01:37:37,117 --> 01:37:38,886
SEATTLE TAXPAYERS ARE GIVING 

2969
01:37:38,886 --> 01:37:40,721
$115 MILLION IN THIS HOUSING 

2970
01:37:40,721 --> 01:37:42,957
AREA, IT COULD PROVIDE SOME 

2971
01:37:42,957 --> 01:37:43,557
FLEXIBILITY IN THE BUDGETING 

2972
01:37:43,557 --> 01:37:45,960
PROCESS BECAUSE, HEY, YOU KNOW, 

2973
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:46,627
THEY'RE ALSO GOT THEIR SHOULDER

2974
01:37:46,627 --> 01:37:49,330
IN AND THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO 

2975
01:37:49,330 --> 01:37:49,863
CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL 

2976
01:37:49,863 --> 01:37:52,566
PROCESS 

2977
01:37:52,566 --> 01:37:53,167
-- I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY 

2978
01:37:53,167 --> 01:37:53,901
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER 

2979
01:37:53,901 --> 01:37:56,904
AS A POLICY MAKER, AS YOU MAKE 

2980
01:37:56,904 --> 01:37:57,438
CHOICES ABOUT THE BUDGET. 

2981
01:37:57,438 --> 01:37:58,772
-- WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THAT 

2982
01:37:58,772 --> 01:38:00,107
BECAUSE AS YOU SAID YESTERDAY, 

2983
01:38:00,107 --> 01:38:01,642
YOU ARE ACTUALLY THE NUMBER OF 

2984
01:38:01,642 --> 01:38:03,077
DAYS, HARD CHOICES, HARD 

2985
01:38:03,077 --> 01:38:05,212
CHOICES, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE 

2986
01:38:05,212 --> 01:38:07,448
WRONG CHOICES AT TIMES. AND 

2987
01:38:07,448 --> 01:38:09,617
THOSE WRONG CHOICES COULD BE 

2988
01:38:09,617 --> 01:38:10,217
AMELIORATED WITH POTENTIALLY 

2989
01:38:10,217 --> 01:38:12,419
SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, 

2990
01:38:12,419 --> 01:38:13,787
DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS ON THAT

2991
01:38:13,787 --> 01:38:17,591
POINT. AND THIS GOES BACK TO 

2992
01:38:17,591 --> 01:38:19,226
STABILIZATION. COULD THERE BE A 

2993
01:38:19,226 --> 01:38:21,061
ROLE FOR THE SEATTLE SOCIAL 

2994
01:38:21,061 --> 01:38:22,830
HOUSING DEVELOPER IF THERE IS 

2995
01:38:22,830 --> 01:38:25,332
HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

2996
01:38:25,332 --> 01:38:27,468
ENTITY THAT WAS IN TROUBLE FOR 

2997
01:38:27,468 --> 01:38:29,470
THEM TO MAYBE LOOK TO BUILD 

2998
01:38:29,470 --> 01:38:32,273
THEIR PORTFOLIO WITH A FORMER 

2999
01:38:32,273 --> 01:38:33,240
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPERTY THAT

3000
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,775
THEN MAY BECOME A SOCIAL HOUSING

3001
01:38:34,775 --> 01:38:36,176
PROPERTY? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT

3002
01:38:36,176 --> 01:38:39,079
OH, IS CONSIDERED? 

3003
01:38:39,079 --> 01:38:41,215
-- WE HAVE MET MULTIPLE OF OUR 

3004
01:38:41,215 --> 01:38:42,750
STAFF, HAVE MET WITH SOCIAL 

3005
01:38:42,750 --> 01:38:44,985
HOUSING DEVELOPER STAFF NUMEROUS

3006
01:38:44,985 --> 01:38:46,720
TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR TO HAVE

3007
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:47,988
A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF 

3008
01:38:47,988 --> 01:38:49,290
CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE FOCUSED ON

3009
01:38:49,290 --> 01:38:51,058
DATA. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 

3010
01:38:51,058 --> 01:38:52,359
HOUSING MARKET DATA. WE'RE 

3011
01:38:52,359 --> 01:38:54,962
SHARING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS 

3012
01:38:54,962 --> 01:38:57,131
WE CAN WITH THEM AND HEARING 

3013
01:38:57,131 --> 01:38:59,400
MORE ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES. WE 

3014
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,335
DID TALK TALK ABOUT THIS 

3015
01:39:01,335 --> 01:39:02,936
CONCEPT. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, 

3016
01:39:02,936 --> 01:39:04,405
IT'S NOT A HIGH INTEREST FOR 

3017
01:39:04,405 --> 01:39:07,708
THEM AS THEY ARE REALLY STRIVING

3018
01:39:07,708 --> 01:39:11,278
TO IDENTIFY ACQUISITIONS THAT 

3019
01:39:11,278 --> 01:39:14,381
ARE IN AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY AND 

3020
01:39:14,381 --> 01:39:17,184
THAT ARE BUILDINGS OF VERY HIGH 

3021
01:39:17,184 --> 01:39:19,053
QUALITY. TYPICALLY, THE 

3022
01:39:19,053 --> 01:39:19,720
DISTRESSED PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE

3023
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,288
SEEING IN OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING

3024
01:39:21,288 --> 01:39:24,024
SECTOR REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT 

3025
01:39:24,024 --> 01:39:25,192
INVESTMENT, OFTEN ARE IN 

3026
01:39:25,192 --> 01:39:27,895
DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS

3027
01:39:27,895 --> 01:39:28,462
THAN WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE 

3028
01:39:28,462 --> 01:39:31,231
SOCIAL HOUSING DEVELOPER, TO BE 

3029
01:39:31,231 --> 01:39:33,367
INTERESTED IN PURSUING. IN 

3030
01:39:33,367 --> 01:39:36,236
ADDITION, THEY HAVE A VERY 

3031
01:39:36,236 --> 01:39:36,837
SPECIFIC OWNERSHIP OWNERSHIP 

3032
01:39:36,837 --> 01:39:38,505
STRUCTURE REQUIREMENT IN THEIR 

3033
01:39:38,505 --> 01:39:40,841
CHARTER. SO FAR, THAT'S NOT AN 

3034
01:39:40,841 --> 01:39:42,276
OPTION THAT WE ARE PURSUING, AND

3035
01:39:42,276 --> 01:39:44,611
WE ARE LOOKING INWARD TO THE 

3036
01:39:44,611 --> 01:39:46,046
OFFICE OF HOUSING BUDGET TO 

3037
01:39:46,046 --> 01:39:47,381
BRING ALL OF OUR RESOURCES TO 

3038
01:39:47,381 --> 01:39:47,981
BEAR AND TO THE PRESERVATION 

3039
01:39:47,981 --> 01:39:50,117
NEEDS OF OUR PORTFOLIO. 

3040
01:39:50,117 --> 01:39:51,085
-- THANK YOU. I DO BELIEVE THAT 

3041
01:39:51,085 --> 01:39:53,887
THEY'RE LOOKING TO GO CITYWIDE,

3042
01:39:53,887 --> 01:39:55,723
ACROSS THE BOARD, AND I 

3043
01:39:55,723 --> 01:39:56,323
RECOGNIZE THERE'S THERE'S 

3044
01:39:56,323 --> 01:39:57,224
DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISTRESSED 

3045
01:39:57,224 --> 01:39:58,926
PROPERTIES. THERE'S THOSE THAT 

3046
01:39:58,926 --> 01:39:59,727
ARE PHYSICALLY IN DISTRESS, AND 

3047
01:39:59,727 --> 01:40:01,562
THEN THERE'S THOSE THAT ARE 

3048
01:40:01,562 --> 01:40:02,196
FINANCIALLY IN DISTRESS. AND SO 

3049
01:40:02,196 --> 01:40:05,499
THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES. THIS

3050
01:40:05,499 --> 01:40:07,334
WHOLE LINE OF QUESTIONING AND 

3051
01:40:07,334 --> 01:40:09,436
THE SHIP AND REPORT AND THESE 

3052
01:40:09,436 --> 01:40:10,838
OTHER THINGS IS I JUST WANT TO 

3053
01:40:10,838 --> 01:40:15,042
KIND OF PUSH, THE, YOU KNOW, FOR

3054
01:40:15,042 --> 01:40:16,677
US TO THINK BIGGER, AND 

3055
01:40:16,677 --> 01:40:17,311
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT IS THE 

3056
01:40:17,311 --> 01:40:18,512
SEATTLE TAXPAYERS THAT FUND THAT

3057
01:40:18,512 --> 01:40:20,714
AS WELL. AND THEN THE SHARED 

3058
01:40:20,714 --> 01:40:22,149
SPACE THAT EVERYBODY IS WORKING 

3059
01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:23,484
IN THAT IN TERMS OF 

3060
01:40:23,484 --> 01:40:24,051
COLLABORATION, IT'S LIKE 

3061
01:40:24,051 --> 01:40:25,219
BRINGING THE JOINT VOICE TO THE 

3062
01:40:25,219 --> 01:40:25,953
MILITARY. I THINK WE HAVE TO 

3063
01:40:25,953 --> 01:40:28,956
HAVE A JOINT HOUSING FORCE 

3064
01:40:28,956 --> 01:40:31,959
EFFORT HERE WHERE THE OA AND 

3065
01:40:31,959 --> 01:40:32,493
SOCIAL HOUSING, INCLUDING 

3066
01:40:32,493 --> 01:40:33,394
SEATTLE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH

3067
01:40:33,394 --> 01:40:36,330
IS DIFFERENT, I RECOGNIZE FOR 

3068
01:40:36,330 --> 01:40:38,565
DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT TO TO 

3069
01:40:38,565 --> 01:40:39,666
ENSURE THAT THE END PRODUCT IS 

3070
01:40:39,666 --> 01:40:40,768
GETTING WORSE, WHERE WE NEED TO 

3071
01:40:40,768 --> 01:40:43,504
BE, AS OPPOSED TO DISPARATE 

3072
01:40:43,504 --> 01:40:46,140
ACTIONS. AND I JUST, I JUST 

3073
01:40:46,140 --> 01:40:46,673
RAISED THESE QUESTIONS TO 

3074
01:40:46,673 --> 01:40:48,409
INCLUDE THE BUDGET DIRECTIONS TO

3075
01:40:48,409 --> 01:40:50,144
KIND OF PRESS DIRECTOR PANUCCI 

3076
01:40:50,144 --> 01:40:54,181
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, TO 

3077
01:40:54,181 --> 01:40:55,249
ENGAGE ON THAT DISCOURSE. BUT I 

3078
01:40:55,249 --> 01:40:56,250
JUST THINK IT'S REALLY 

3079
01:40:56,250 --> 01:40:58,285
IMPORTANT. CHAIR. AND FOR THE 

3080
01:40:58,285 --> 01:40:59,119
HOUSING COMMITTEE CHAIR AND FOR 

3081
01:40:59,119 --> 01:41:02,222
ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT THIS. 

3082
01:41:02,222 --> 01:41:03,424
AND THAT'S THE RATIONALE BEHIND

3083
01:41:03,424 --> 01:41:05,726
MY QUESTION. SO THANK YOU VERY 

3084
01:41:05,726 --> 01:41:05,926
MUCH. 

3085
01:41:05,926 --> 01:41:06,760
-- THANK ME. JUST ONE MORE 

3086
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,796
RESPONSE. 

3087
01:41:08,796 --> 01:41:09,329
-- MEMBER KETTLE DOES THE 

3088
01:41:09,329 --> 01:41:11,231
COMMITTEE TABLE HAVE ANYTHING TO

3089
01:41:11,231 --> 01:41:13,133
SHARE YEAH, SURE. 

3090
01:41:13,133 --> 01:41:14,701
-- ONE MORE RESPONSE TO THAT. 

3091
01:41:14,701 --> 01:41:19,573
CHAIR STRAUSS WE ALSO HAVE 

3092
01:41:19,573 --> 01:41:21,875
SPOKEN QUITE A BIT WITH SEATTLE 

3093
01:41:21,875 --> 01:41:22,876
HOUSING AUTHORITY IN THE LAST 

3094
01:41:22,876 --> 01:41:24,211
YEAR, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT

3095
01:41:24,211 --> 01:41:25,112
TO US THAT WE VIEW ALL OF THESE 

3096
01:41:25,112 --> 01:41:30,050
EFFORTS TO BE COMPLEMENTARY. WE 

3097
01:41:30,050 --> 01:41:30,584
ARE STRIVING TO ACHIEVE A 

3098
01:41:30,584 --> 01:41:32,152
PERCENTAGE OF MARKET SHARE OF 

3099
01:41:32,152 --> 01:41:33,053
OUR HOUSING MARKET, THAT IS 

3100
01:41:33,053 --> 01:41:34,321
INCOME AND RENT RESTRICTED, AND 

3101
01:41:34,321 --> 01:41:36,090
ALL OF US ARE WORKING TOWARD 

3102
01:41:36,090 --> 01:41:39,393
THAT GOAL. AND THAT IS THE MOST 

3103
01:41:39,393 --> 01:41:42,229
IMPORTANT PIECE THAT HELPS TO 

3104
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:42,830
END HOMELESSNESS AND PROVIDE 

3105
01:41:42,830 --> 01:41:45,132
STABILITY FOR OUR LOWEST INCOME 

3106
01:41:45,132 --> 01:41:47,701
RENTERS IN THE CITY. SO SOCIAL 

3107
01:41:47,701 --> 01:41:49,803
HOUSING IS SERVING SORT OF A 

3108
01:41:49,803 --> 01:41:50,404
DIFFERENT INCOME STRATA THAN 

3109
01:41:50,404 --> 01:41:52,039
WHAT THE OFFICE OF HOUSING IS 

3110
01:41:52,039 --> 01:41:54,541
FOCUSING ON, WHICH IS GOING 

3111
01:41:54,541 --> 01:41:56,310
FORWARD REALLY BELOW 50% OF AREA

3112
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:58,378
MEDIAN INCOME IS OUR IS OUR AREA

3113
01:41:58,378 --> 01:41:59,146
OF EMPHASIS. 

3114
01:41:59,146 --> 01:42:01,415
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. 

3115
01:42:01,415 --> 01:42:01,982
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

3116
01:42:01,982 --> 01:42:02,749
KETTLE. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK 

3117
01:42:02,749 --> 01:42:04,017
YOU. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE 

3118
01:42:04,017 --> 01:42:04,852
MOVING ON. ANYONE WHO HAS NOT 

3119
01:42:04,852 --> 01:42:06,253
SPOKEN YET, WOULD YOU LIKE TO 

3120
01:42:06,253 --> 01:42:09,756
SPEAK? I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH. 

3121
01:42:09,756 --> 01:42:11,625
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA DID YOU GO 

3122
01:42:11,625 --> 01:42:12,793
BEFORE AS WELL? ALL RIGHT. I'M 

3123
01:42:12,793 --> 01:42:15,429
GOING TO DO MY PIECE AND THEN 

3124
01:42:15,429 --> 01:42:18,398
I'LL CALL ON YOU FOR BRIEF 

3125
01:42:18,398 --> 01:42:19,433
REMARKS. LOOKING AT OUR SEVEN 

3126
01:42:19,433 --> 01:42:21,135
YEAR LOOK BACK, IT DOESN'T EVEN

3127
01:42:21,135 --> 01:42:22,836
TELL THE WHOLE STORY. SEVEN 

3128
01:42:22,836 --> 01:42:27,241
YEARS AGO, OFFICE OF HOUSING WAS

3129
01:42:27,241 --> 01:42:29,710
A WAS 408% SMALLER THAN IT IS 

3130
01:42:29,710 --> 01:42:33,547
TODAY. IF YOU GO BACK TO 2017, I

3131
01:42:33,547 --> 01:42:36,517
BELIEVE IT WAS ONLY $7.6 MILLION

3132
01:42:36,517 --> 01:42:39,853
THAT WE INVESTED IN THE OFFICE 

3133
01:42:39,853 --> 01:42:42,723
OF HOUSING. IN TOTAL SO HERE WE 

3134
01:42:42,723 --> 01:42:50,464
ARE IN 2026, LOOKING AT THE 2027

3135
01:42:50,464 --> 01:42:53,500
BUDGET OF $347 MILLION. SORRY, 

3136
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:55,836
THERE'S THREE ZEROS THAT YOU 

3137
01:42:55,836 --> 01:42:58,739
DON'T PRINT. THERE. I MEAN 

3138
01:42:58,739 --> 01:43:01,008
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. THE CITY

3139
01:43:01,008 --> 01:43:02,142
OF SEATTLE IS TWICE AS BIG AS 

3140
01:43:02,142 --> 01:43:04,144
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP THROUGH 

3141
01:43:04,144 --> 01:43:05,279
THE 2010s. WE WENT THROUGH A 

3142
01:43:05,279 --> 01:43:10,050
GROWTH SPURT AND WE WERE ONLY 

3143
01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:12,586
RELYING ON AN HOUSING LEVY THAT 

3144
01:43:12,586 --> 01:43:14,821
WAS BUILT BEFORE THE GROWTH 

3145
01:43:14,821 --> 01:43:21,828
SPURT IN FROM 2017 TO 2023. SO 

3146
01:43:21,828 --> 01:43:23,897
IN 2017, $7.6 MILLION. THEN WE 

3147
01:43:23,897 --> 01:43:24,865
ADDED MANDATORY HOUSING 

3148
01:43:24,865 --> 01:43:27,501
AFFORDABILITY. THAT WAS BRINGING

3149
01:43:27,501 --> 01:43:30,037
IN ABOUT $67 MILLION ON AVERAGE 

3150
01:43:30,037 --> 01:43:34,007
ANNUALLY FOR 2019 THROUGH 2023. 

3151
01:43:34,007 --> 01:43:35,742
IN 2022, WE ADDED, IF YOU WANT 

3152
01:43:35,742 --> 01:43:38,345
TO GO BACK TO SLIDE THREE, IT 

3153
01:43:38,345 --> 01:43:40,814
SHOWS ALL OF WHAT I'M TALKING 

3154
01:43:40,814 --> 01:43:43,884
ABOUT HERE IN TODAY'S NUMBERS. 

3155
01:43:43,884 --> 01:43:45,285
IN 2022, WE STARTED COLLECTING 

3156
01:43:45,285 --> 01:43:48,722
THE JUMP START FEES THAT WE 

3157
01:43:48,722 --> 01:43:53,760
PASSED DURING 2020. AND THEN IN 

3158
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,429
2023, WE PASSED A NEW HOUSING 

3159
01:43:55,429 --> 01:43:58,298
LEVY, ADDING $139 MILLION 

3160
01:43:58,298 --> 01:44:02,469
ANNUALLY. HOWEVER, IN 2024, MH 

3161
01:44:02,469 --> 01:44:06,039
AYE HAD DROPPED TO $24 MILLION 

3162
01:44:06,039 --> 01:44:12,579
ANNUALLY, AND IN 2026, WE ARE 

3163
01:44:12,579 --> 01:44:15,716
STILL WE ARE JUST OH, WE STILL 

3164
01:44:15,716 --> 01:44:18,151
HAD ANOTHER $124 MILLION THROUGH

3165
01:44:18,151 --> 01:44:18,652
SEATTLE SOCIAL HOUSING 

3166
01:44:18,652 --> 01:44:20,554
DEVELOPER. SO I THINK THE POINT 

3167
01:44:20,554 --> 01:44:22,189
THAT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE MAY 

3168
01:44:22,189 --> 01:44:27,160
HAVE BEEN MAKING WAS WE ARE ONLY

3169
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,362
$5 MILLION FEWER. IF WE HAD $5 

3170
01:44:28,362 --> 01:44:29,896
MILLION MORE IN THE OFFICE OF 

3171
01:44:29,896 --> 01:44:32,966
HOUSING BUDGET TODAY, WE WOULD 

3172
01:44:32,966 --> 01:44:35,035
AGAIN BE INVESTING A HISTORICAL 

3173
01:44:35,035 --> 01:44:37,571
AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO THE OFFICE 

3174
01:44:37,571 --> 01:44:39,539
OF HOUSING. WE DON'T HAVE THAT 

3175
01:44:39,539 --> 01:44:40,807
$5 MILLION. I STILL THINK IT'S A

3176
01:44:40,807 --> 01:44:42,609
REALLY GREAT INVESTMENT. AND ON 

3177
01:44:42,609 --> 01:44:49,116
TOP OF THAT, THE ELASTICITY OF 

3178
01:44:49,116 --> 01:44:51,318
OUR TAX ENVIRONMENT WAS SUBSUMED

3179
01:44:51,318 --> 01:44:53,320
BY THE SOCIAL HOUSING INVESTOR, 

3180
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,489
WHICH IS OKAY. RIGHT? SEATTLE 

3181
01:44:55,489 --> 01:44:56,857
VOTERS SAID, WE WANT THESE FUNDS

3182
01:44:56,857 --> 01:44:59,526
TO BE DEDICATED TOWARDS HOUSING 

3183
01:44:59,526 --> 01:45:01,395
THROUGH THE SEATTLE SOCIAL 

3184
01:45:01,395 --> 01:45:03,263
HOUSING INVESTOR. AND WHAT THAT 

3185
01:45:03,263 --> 01:45:05,432
ALSO MEANT IS THAT THE CITY'S 

3186
01:45:05,432 --> 01:45:08,268
ABILITY TO CHANGE THOSE 

3187
01:45:08,268 --> 01:45:08,769
JUMPSTART RATES CHANGE 

3188
01:45:08,769 --> 01:45:10,370
DRASTICALLY. AND A CHANGE TAX 

3189
01:45:10,370 --> 01:45:12,139
ENVIRONMENT, THAT'S A THAT'S A

3190
01:45:12,139 --> 01:45:13,073
PROFESSIONAL TAKE HERE AS A 

3191
01:45:13,073 --> 01:45:15,709
BUDGET CHAIR, NOT ONE THAT I'M 

3192
01:45:15,709 --> 01:45:16,843
TRYING TO GET RESPONSE FROM THE 

3193
01:45:16,843 --> 01:45:19,046
COMMITTEE TABLE HERE. I'M JUST 

3194
01:45:19,046 --> 01:45:22,349
TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE 

3195
01:45:22,349 --> 01:45:24,618
ENVIRONMENT. I SHARE THIS 

3196
01:45:24,618 --> 01:45:26,787
BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE BRAIDED

3197
01:45:26,787 --> 01:45:28,288
FUNDING STREAMS FOR THE OFFICE 

3198
01:45:28,288 --> 01:45:29,856
OF HOUSING. I SHARE THIS BECAUSE

3199
01:45:29,856 --> 01:45:31,491
IT TOOK US SIX YEARS, SEVEN 

3200
01:45:31,491 --> 01:45:33,126
YEARS TO GET MH AYE ON THE 

3201
01:45:33,126 --> 01:45:35,162
BOOKS. SO BY THE TIME WE STARTED

3202
01:45:35,162 --> 01:45:36,697
COLLECTING IT, IT WAS AT THE END

3203
01:45:36,697 --> 01:45:39,132
OF A BUILDING CYCLE. AND WE KNEW

3204
01:45:39,132 --> 01:45:41,802
THAT THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH, WHICH 

3205
01:45:41,802 --> 01:45:43,570
IS WHY WE PASSED THE JUMPSTART 

3206
01:45:43,570 --> 01:45:45,672
TAX, WHICH IS WHY WE INCREASED 

3207
01:45:45,672 --> 01:45:47,641
THE MOST RECENT HOUSING LEVY. 

3208
01:45:47,641 --> 01:45:51,445
AND SO THAT IS HOW WE GOT TO A 

3209
01:45:51,445 --> 01:45:53,613
408% INCREASE FROM EVEN JUST 

3210
01:45:53,613 --> 01:45:55,182
2019. THE STORY OF YOUR 

3211
01:45:55,182 --> 01:45:56,350
DEPARTMENT, FOR ME, TELLS THAT 

3212
01:45:56,350 --> 01:46:02,189
STORY OF A STARTUP, A SCRAPPY 

3213
01:46:02,189 --> 01:46:04,758
STARTUP. IN 2017 WITH $7 MILLION

3214
01:46:04,758 --> 01:46:08,595
TO BEING A REALLY BIG COMPANY AT

3215
01:46:08,595 --> 01:46:10,697
$350 MILLION A YEAR. AND SOME OF

3216
01:46:10,697 --> 01:46:13,367
THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, INITIAL 

3217
01:46:13,367 --> 01:46:15,669
STARTUP MENTALITY IS TO BE RISK 

3218
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:17,137
AVERSE, KEEP ALL OF THAT CAPITAL

3219
01:46:17,137 --> 01:46:19,740
IN THE BANK FOR THE DAY THAT IT 

3220
01:46:19,740 --> 01:46:21,408
NEEDS TO EXIT QUICKLY. AND WHAT 

3221
01:46:21,408 --> 01:46:23,110
I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED BY IS TO 

3222
01:46:23,110 --> 01:46:25,812
SEE HOW THE DEPARTMENT HAS 

3223
01:46:25,812 --> 01:46:30,550
BECOME HAS GROWN. I WOULD SAY 

3224
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:31,685
THAT YOUR STAFFING HAS NOT GROWN

3225
01:46:31,685 --> 01:46:33,120
AT THE LEVEL THAT IT MIGHT YOU 

3226
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:34,888
MIGHT NEED TO. SO HERE'S ME 

3227
01:46:34,888 --> 01:46:36,323
SUGGESTING, SORRY. BUDGET 

3228
01:46:36,323 --> 01:46:37,891
DIRECTOR, BUT THEY MIGHT NEED 

3229
01:46:37,891 --> 01:46:41,762
MORE STAFF TO TALK THROUGH TO 

3230
01:46:41,762 --> 01:46:42,395
CREATE THESE SHIP SHAPED PLANS 

3231
01:46:42,395 --> 01:46:45,098
AND TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 

3232
01:46:45,098 --> 01:46:45,732
BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I THINK 

3233
01:46:45,732 --> 01:46:46,867
IT WAS FROM THE BUDGET LAST YEAR

3234
01:46:46,867 --> 01:46:48,468
THAT I'M NOT SEEING THIS YEAR 

3235
01:46:48,468 --> 01:46:52,639
IS HOW YOU ACTUALLY STACKED OUT 

3236
01:46:52,639 --> 01:46:54,841
YOUR UNITS YEAR BY YEAR. BECAUSE

3237
01:46:54,841 --> 01:46:57,344
FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT TAKES 

3238
01:46:57,344 --> 01:46:59,980
FOUR MINIMUM YEARS TO SIX YEARS 

3239
01:46:59,980 --> 01:47:03,350
ON AVERAGE TO GO FROM A NOFA TO 

3240
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:05,585
THE DOORS BEING OPEN. AND SO 

3241
01:47:05,585 --> 01:47:06,686
BECAUSE IT TAKES SO MUCH TIME, 

3242
01:47:06,686 --> 01:47:08,889
IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT 

3243
01:47:08,889 --> 01:47:09,756
COMMUNICATION. AND SO I SAW THAT

3244
01:47:09,756 --> 01:47:11,725
SLIDE LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF

3245
01:47:11,725 --> 01:47:12,459
IT'S JUST IN A DIFFERENT 

3246
01:47:12,459 --> 01:47:13,860
PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE THAT 

3247
01:47:13,860 --> 01:47:16,263
UPDATED TODAY, I'D LOVE TO SEE 

3248
01:47:16,263 --> 01:47:16,930
ANOTHER COPY BECAUSE THAT'S THE

3249
01:47:16,930 --> 01:47:19,599
TYPE OF THE WORK THAT I SEE THE 

3250
01:47:19,599 --> 01:47:21,234
STAFF, YOUR DEPARTMENT NEEDING 

3251
01:47:21,234 --> 01:47:23,036
TO GROW IN AND HOW TO CREATE 

3252
01:47:23,036 --> 01:47:28,975
THAT BETTER ACCESS, NOT ONLY FOR

3253
01:47:28,975 --> 01:47:29,609
UNDERSTANDING THAT SEATTLEITES 

3254
01:47:29,609 --> 01:47:32,145
WHO MIGHT BE STRUGGLING WITH 

3255
01:47:32,145 --> 01:47:33,513
RENT TODAY, HAVE A FUTURE IN THE

3256
01:47:33,513 --> 01:47:36,817
NEAR FUTURE HERE, BUT THEN ALSO 

3257
01:47:36,817 --> 01:47:38,985
GETTING TO THE POINT THAT 

3258
01:47:38,985 --> 01:47:39,519
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER WAS 

3259
01:47:39,519 --> 01:47:40,554
BRINGING UP THAT YOU WERE 

3260
01:47:40,554 --> 01:47:42,489
DISCUSSING AS WELL, THAT STUDIOS

3261
01:47:42,489 --> 01:47:45,025
AND ONE BEDROOMS ARE NEARLY IN 

3262
01:47:45,025 --> 01:47:46,827
PLACES THE SAME COST AS MARKET 

3263
01:47:46,827 --> 01:47:51,498
RATE WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND 

3264
01:47:51,498 --> 01:47:52,499
COUNCILMEMBER LIN BROUGHT UP IS 

3265
01:47:52,499 --> 01:47:55,302
A CASH FLOW TOOL. IT 

3266
01:47:55,302 --> 01:47:56,703
DEMONSTRATES THAT THROUGHOUT THE

3267
01:47:56,703 --> 01:47:57,838
ENTIRE CITY BUDGET, WE ARE NOT 

3268
01:47:57,838 --> 01:48:00,106
AT THE END OF THE ROAD. WE DO 

3269
01:48:00,106 --> 01:48:02,909
HAVE OTHER TOOLS THAT EXIST LIKE

3270
01:48:02,909 --> 01:48:05,245
THIS, AND IT IS INCREDIBLY 

3271
01:48:05,245 --> 01:48:06,646
IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE THESE 

3272
01:48:06,646 --> 01:48:09,616
TOOLS ONE AT A TIME, WHICH IS 

3273
01:48:09,616 --> 01:48:10,150
WHY I'VE TALKED ABOUT A 

3274
01:48:10,150 --> 01:48:15,522
MULTIYEAR STRATEGY TO WALK DOWN 

3275
01:48:15,522 --> 01:48:16,990
THE HILL OF STRUCTURAL BUDGET 

3276
01:48:16,990 --> 01:48:18,024
DEFICIT, RATHER THAN STEPPING 

3277
01:48:18,024 --> 01:48:20,560
OFF A CLIFF. THIS COMES BACK TO 

3278
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,497
MY MENTALITY THAT IF WE MAKE 

3279
01:48:23,497 --> 01:48:26,032
SMART CHOICES CAREFULLY AND 

3280
01:48:26,032 --> 01:48:29,069
SLOWLY OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, 

3281
01:48:29,069 --> 01:48:29,703
WE DON'T UNINTENTIONALLY CUT 

3282
01:48:29,703 --> 01:48:31,972
PROGRAMS THAT WE MAY ACTUALLY 

3283
01:48:31,972 --> 01:48:34,107
REALLY NEED, OR WE DON'T SHRINK

3284
01:48:34,107 --> 01:48:36,676
PROGRAMS BEYOND WHAT THEY NEED. 

3285
01:48:36,676 --> 01:48:38,778
AND SO I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT 

3286
01:48:38,778 --> 01:48:39,779
WE ARE USING THIS TOOL THIS 

3287
01:48:39,779 --> 01:48:44,150
YEAR. IT IS A TOOL THAT WE HAVE 

3288
01:48:44,150 --> 01:48:45,352
HELD OFF ON USING. AND I JUST 

3289
01:48:45,352 --> 01:48:46,920
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE

3290
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,155
TO CREATE THAT STABILITY THAT WE

3291
01:48:49,155 --> 01:48:52,425
NEED WHEN WE'RE USING THIS TOOL.

3292
01:48:52,425 --> 01:48:53,560
IF YOU ARE A NEW DEPARTMENT 

3293
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,395
DIRECTOR THAT HAD NOT BEEN HERE 

3294
01:48:55,395 --> 01:48:57,264
AND THAT WE DIDN'T COME TO 

3295
01:48:57,264 --> 01:48:58,632
ALREADY, I WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE

3296
01:48:58,632 --> 01:49:00,734
FEAR AND RISK THAT THIS STEP 

3297
01:49:00,734 --> 01:49:05,906
WOULD BE DONE INCORRECTLY. SO I 

3298
01:49:05,906 --> 01:49:07,908
GUESS WE DON'T HAVE ANY 

3299
01:49:07,908 --> 01:49:10,911
QUESTIONS TODAY. I WOULD SAY IN 

3300
01:49:10,911 --> 01:49:12,579
YOUR UPCOMING NOFAS AND IN YOUR 

3301
01:49:12,579 --> 01:49:14,714
UPCOMING FUNDING, ARE YOU STILL 

3302
01:49:14,714 --> 01:49:16,016
FUNDING ONE BEDROOM AND STUDIO, 

3303
01:49:16,016 --> 01:49:18,852
OR HAVE YOU CHANGED ENTIRELY TO 

3304
01:49:18,852 --> 01:49:23,456
FAMILY SIZED UNITS AT THIS TIME?

3305
01:49:23,456 --> 01:49:24,858
-- WE'VE BEEN TALKING QUITE A 

3306
01:49:24,858 --> 01:49:26,927
LOT ABOUT THIS THIS YEAR 

3307
01:49:26,927 --> 01:49:28,695
ALREADY. THE TEAM WILL BE 

3308
01:49:28,695 --> 01:49:31,331
LOOKING REALLY CLOSELY AT 

3309
01:49:31,331 --> 01:49:33,667
APPLICATIONS THAT ARE SUBMITTED.

3310
01:49:33,667 --> 01:49:37,270
WE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY 

3311
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:40,206
SET UP RULES AND INCENTIVES THAT

3312
01:49:40,206 --> 01:49:43,643
MAKE PROJECTS IMPRACTICAL OR 

3313
01:49:43,643 --> 01:49:45,912
INFEASIBLE, AND WE WANT THESE 

3314
01:49:45,912 --> 01:49:47,981
PROJECTS TO BE DEEPLY 

3315
01:49:47,981 --> 01:49:49,683
AFFORDABLE, BELOW MARKET AND 

3316
01:49:49,683 --> 01:49:50,150
COMPETITIVE IN THEIR 

3317
01:49:50,150 --> 01:49:52,285
NEIGHBORHOODS. SO AS WE ARE 

3318
01:49:52,285 --> 01:49:54,321
EXAMINING PRO FORMAS AND 

3319
01:49:54,321 --> 01:49:55,522
PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED THIS

3320
01:49:55,522 --> 01:49:58,925
YEAR, WE WILL BE VERY CLOSELY 

3321
01:49:58,925 --> 01:50:03,563
SCRUTINIZING ANY STUDIOS OR 

3322
01:50:03,563 --> 01:50:05,231
SMALL APARTMENTS AND THE LEVELS 

3323
01:50:05,231 --> 01:50:05,799
OF THE RENTS THAT THEY ARE 

3324
01:50:05,799 --> 01:50:06,533
BRINGING FORWARD. IT'S NOT TO 

3325
01:50:06,533 --> 01:50:08,601
SAY THAT WE DON'T NEED ANY 

3326
01:50:08,601 --> 01:50:09,769
STUDIO APARTMENTS, IT'S THAT 

3327
01:50:09,769 --> 01:50:11,204
THEY HAVE TO BE PRICED RIGHT IN 

3328
01:50:11,204 --> 01:50:12,839
THIS CURRENT MARKET, 

3329
01:50:12,839 --> 01:50:15,976
PARTICULARLY BY SUBMARKET, AND 

3330
01:50:15,976 --> 01:50:16,876
WE REALLY NEED FAMILY SIZED 

3331
01:50:16,876 --> 01:50:21,781
HOMES. SO THERE'S ALWAYS A TRADE

3332
01:50:21,781 --> 01:50:22,983
OFF FOCUSING ON THE NUMBER OF 

3333
01:50:22,983 --> 01:50:24,851
PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE, RATHER 

3334
01:50:24,851 --> 01:50:26,987
THAN THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE

3335
01:50:26,987 --> 01:50:28,855
SERVE. WE ARE ABLE TO STRETCH 

3336
01:50:28,855 --> 01:50:29,522
OUR INVESTMENTS FURTHER, AND WE 

3337
01:50:29,522 --> 01:50:31,124
ARE TRYING TO PUSH MORE TOWARD 

3338
01:50:31,124 --> 01:50:33,360
THOSE FAMILY SIZED HOMES. SO 

3339
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,895
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE HOW 

3340
01:50:35,895 --> 01:50:37,263
OUR INVESTMENT DECISIONS ARE 

3341
01:50:37,263 --> 01:50:38,365
MADE THIS YEAR. WE'LL BE 

3342
01:50:38,365 --> 01:50:39,733
WATCHING THAT REALLY CLOSELY AND

3343
01:50:39,733 --> 01:50:40,800
MAKING SURE THAT IT'S INFORMED 

3344
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,335
BY THE DATA THAT WE HAVE RIGHT 

3345
01:50:42,335 --> 01:50:42,535
NOW. 

3346
01:50:42,535 --> 01:50:44,070
-- THANK YOU. THIS ALL STEMS OFF

3347
01:50:44,070 --> 01:50:45,372
OF THE POLICY QUESTIONS THAT 

3348
01:50:45,372 --> 01:50:46,906
WERE ASKED EARLIER. I WON'T ASK

3349
01:50:46,906 --> 01:50:50,610
THEM JUST TO DOUBLE, DOUBLE DOWN

3350
01:50:50,610 --> 01:50:52,946
ON. WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT 

3351
01:50:52,946 --> 01:50:55,649
OUR OPERATING COSTS AS THIS. AT 

3352
01:50:55,649 --> 01:50:57,117
THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE 

3353
01:50:57,117 --> 01:50:58,852
LOOKING AT WHAT ARE WE FUNDING 

3354
01:50:58,852 --> 01:51:00,120
TO BUILD? WHAT ARE THE 

3355
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,654
SATURATION LEVELS THROUGHOUT THE

3356
01:51:01,654 --> 01:51:03,556
MARKET WHERE WE ALREADY SEEING 

3357
01:51:03,556 --> 01:51:05,592
AN OVERSUPPLY OF CERTAIN UNITS 

3358
01:51:05,592 --> 01:51:08,194
IN THOSE RENTS COMING DOWN? 

3359
01:51:08,194 --> 01:51:10,430
THESE ARE THIS IS ALL REALLY 

3360
01:51:10,430 --> 01:51:11,831
CRITICAL INFORMATION BECAUSE 

3361
01:51:11,831 --> 01:51:13,733
OVER THE COURSE OF THESE LAST 

3362
01:51:13,733 --> 01:51:15,301
TEN YEARS, YOU'VE GONE FROM A 

3363
01:51:15,301 --> 01:51:17,170
STARTUP TO A FORTUNE 500 

3364
01:51:17,170 --> 01:51:19,472
COMPANY, WHICH WE ARE ALL GLAD 

3365
01:51:19,472 --> 01:51:22,942
FOR. AND THAT WE ARE AT A POINT 

3366
01:51:22,942 --> 01:51:24,344
WHERE THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE

3367
01:51:24,344 --> 01:51:25,845
MADE ARE STARTING TO CATCH UP. 

3368
01:51:25,845 --> 01:51:27,213
WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE, BUT IT 

3369
01:51:27,213 --> 01:51:30,750
IS A TIME FOR REFINEMENT AND FOR

3370
01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:32,519
PIVOTING JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE 

3371
01:51:32,519 --> 01:51:33,620
ARE NOT STILL TRYING TO SERVE 

3372
01:51:33,620 --> 01:51:34,888
THE SAME CLIENT THAT WE WERE 

3373
01:51:34,888 --> 01:51:36,222
TRYING TO SERVE SIX YEARS AGO, 

3374
01:51:36,222 --> 01:51:38,558
WHERE THE ENVIRONMENT WAS VERY 

3375
01:51:38,558 --> 01:51:39,392
DIFFERENT. AND COLLEAGUES, I 

3376
01:51:39,392 --> 01:51:41,261
WILL JUST SAY, IF WE DID NOT USE

3377
01:51:41,261 --> 01:51:43,163
THIS BUDGET TOOL, THIS CASH 

3378
01:51:43,163 --> 01:51:45,231
MANAGEMENT, THIS CASH FLOW 

3379
01:51:45,231 --> 01:51:48,101
MANAGEMENT TOOL, WE WOULD HAVE 

3380
01:51:48,101 --> 01:51:49,402
TO CHOOSE. WE WOULD THERE WOULD 

3381
01:51:49,402 --> 01:51:50,637
BE MORE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE 

3382
01:51:50,637 --> 01:51:52,105
LAID OFF THIS YEAR. THERE WOULD 

3383
01:51:52,105 --> 01:51:55,008
BE MORE PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE 

3384
01:51:55,008 --> 01:51:58,344
CUT. THERE WOULD BE MORE ONE 

3385
01:51:58,344 --> 01:52:00,380
TIME FUNDING ITEMS THAT WERE NOT

3386
01:52:00,380 --> 01:52:02,582
REFUNDED. THERE WOULD BE THE 

3387
01:52:02,582 --> 01:52:03,683
THINGS THAT WERE ONE TIME AND 

3388
01:52:03,683 --> 01:52:04,951
THAT ARE NOW ONGOING, THAT WOULD

3389
01:52:04,951 --> 01:52:08,521
NOT BE FUNDED. IT REALLY COMES 

3390
01:52:08,521 --> 01:52:09,389
AS I'M LOOKING THROUGH THIS 

3391
01:52:09,389 --> 01:52:12,058
ENTIRE BUDGET. IT COMES DOWN TO 

3392
01:52:12,058 --> 01:52:13,526
ENSURING THAT WE KEEP OUR 

3393
01:52:13,526 --> 01:52:18,031
EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP 

3394
01:52:18,031 --> 01:52:18,598
PAYING THEIR RENT AND THEIR 

3395
01:52:18,598 --> 01:52:21,601
MORTGAGE AND THE OTHER COSTS IN 

3396
01:52:21,601 --> 01:52:22,836
THEIR LIVES. BECAUSE OUR OTHER 

3397
01:52:22,836 --> 01:52:24,838
CHOICE IS TO LEAVE THE CASH IN 

3398
01:52:24,838 --> 01:52:26,973
THIS CASH FUND, OR WE CAN MAKE 

3399
01:52:26,973 --> 01:52:28,208
SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE STILL 

3400
01:52:28,208 --> 01:52:29,409
ABLE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE AND 

3401
01:52:29,409 --> 01:52:32,078
RENT. AND FOR ME, THAT'S A GOOD

3402
01:52:32,078 --> 01:52:33,379
USE OF HOUSING DOLLARS. THANK 

3403
01:52:33,379 --> 01:52:35,648
YOU. WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER 

3404
01:52:35,648 --> 01:52:39,486
RIVERA SHORT AND THEN OVER TO 

3405
01:52:39,486 --> 01:52:40,086
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER TO CLOSE 

3406
01:52:40,086 --> 01:52:41,421
THIS OUT. 

3407
01:52:41,421 --> 01:52:43,389
-- THANK YOU CHAIR. I JUST 

3408
01:52:43,389 --> 01:52:46,426
REALLY WANTED TO I APPRECIATE 

3409
01:52:46,426 --> 01:52:46,960
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE YOU 

3410
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:48,394
BRINGING UP THE POINT ABOUT WE 

3411
01:52:48,394 --> 01:52:50,730
SHOULDN'T BE OPERATING IN SILOS

3412
01:52:50,730 --> 01:52:53,399
IS BASICALLY THE BOTTOM LINE. 

3413
01:52:53,399 --> 01:52:54,801
AND AS THE OFFICE OF HOUSING IS 

3414
01:52:54,801 --> 01:52:57,003
MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR 

3415
01:52:57,003 --> 01:52:59,105
INVESTMENTS, ENSURING THAT 

3416
01:52:59,105 --> 01:53:01,875
THEIR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE 

3417
01:53:01,875 --> 01:53:03,409
ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM, WHAT'S SHE 

3418
01:53:03,409 --> 01:53:05,145
DOING? WHAT'S THE SOCIAL 

3419
01:53:05,145 --> 01:53:07,147
HOUSING PDA DOING AND MAKING 

3420
01:53:07,147 --> 01:53:07,747
SURE WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING 

3421
01:53:07,747 --> 01:53:09,916
EFFORTS BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER 

3422
01:53:09,916 --> 01:53:11,284
KETTLE, I UNDERSTOOD YOUR POINT 

3423
01:53:11,284 --> 01:53:15,088
TO BE IF SHA IS DOING SOMETHING 

3424
01:53:15,088 --> 01:53:17,524
OR SOCIAL HOUSING PDA LET'S NOT

3425
01:53:17,524 --> 01:53:20,693
US DO THE SAME. WE CAN TWEAK OUR

3426
01:53:20,693 --> 01:53:22,228
OFFERINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT 

3427
01:53:22,228 --> 01:53:24,531
WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING

3428
01:53:24,531 --> 01:53:26,633
THEY CAN'T. SO TO ME, IT'S A 

3429
01:53:26,633 --> 01:53:28,001
COORDINATION PIECE. WE KNOW WE 

3430
01:53:28,001 --> 01:53:30,670
DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER 

3431
01:53:30,670 --> 01:53:32,906
EITHER THE SOCIAL HOUSING PDA OR

3432
01:53:32,906 --> 01:53:34,240
SHA, BUT WE CAN PARTNER WITH 

3433
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,510
THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT 

3434
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:39,379
WE'RE COLLECTIVELY DOING IS WHAT

3435
01:53:39,379 --> 01:53:40,747
THE WHAT THE CITY NEEDS. AND I 

3436
01:53:40,747 --> 01:53:42,315
THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY 

3437
01:53:42,315 --> 01:53:44,717
IMPORTANT. AND IT GOES TO WE 

3438
01:53:44,717 --> 01:53:46,853
OFTEN ARE OPERATING IN SILOS. 

3439
01:53:46,853 --> 01:53:48,721
LET'S NOT DO THAT. AND LET'S 

3440
01:53:48,721 --> 01:53:51,224
MAKE SURE WE'RE PARTNERING. AND

3441
01:53:51,224 --> 01:53:54,060
FOR THAT MATTER, WE ALSO ARE 

3442
01:53:54,060 --> 01:53:54,661
LOOKING TOWARD PUBLIC PRIVATE 

3443
01:53:54,661 --> 01:53:57,130
PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE THOSE 

3444
01:53:57,130 --> 01:53:59,432
ACTUALLY ALSO HELP US LEVERAGE 

3445
01:53:59,432 --> 01:54:01,100
OUR MONEY. AND SO WE SHOULD BE 

3446
01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:03,837
LOOKING AT ALL OF IT. SO THANK 

3447
01:54:03,837 --> 01:54:04,871
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, FOR 

3448
01:54:04,871 --> 01:54:06,739
BRINGING IT UP. I THOUGHT THIS 

3449
01:54:06,739 --> 01:54:07,841
WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT, 

3450
01:54:07,841 --> 01:54:10,310
AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE ARE. 

3451
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:12,845
WE'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE 

3452
01:54:12,845 --> 01:54:13,479
INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE OFFICE

3453
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:17,483
OF HOUSING IS SPEAKING TO THESE 

3454
01:54:17,483 --> 01:54:18,551
OTHER ENTITIES. AND EVEN IN THE 

3455
01:54:18,551 --> 01:54:20,153
PRIVATE SECTOR, TO MAKE SURE 

3456
01:54:20,153 --> 01:54:22,989
THAT WE ARE OPERATING WITHIN 

3457
01:54:22,989 --> 01:54:24,324
THIS ECOSYSTEM IN A ROBUST WAY 

3458
01:54:24,324 --> 01:54:26,993
AND NOT SILOED. AND YOU MAY BE 

3459
01:54:26,993 --> 01:54:28,595
DOING THAT. WE JUST DON'T KNOW 

3460
01:54:28,595 --> 01:54:29,896
ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, 

3461
01:54:29,896 --> 01:54:31,798
CHAIR. 

3462
01:54:31,798 --> 01:54:33,066
-- THANK YOU. ANYTHING ANY LAST 

3463
01:54:33,066 --> 01:54:33,800
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE 

3464
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,201
TABLE? THEN I'M GOING TO TURN 

3465
01:54:35,201 --> 01:54:35,835
IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER 

3466
01:54:35,835 --> 01:54:36,569
FOR LAST WORD. ANYTHING YOU'D 

3467
01:54:36,569 --> 01:54:39,539
LIKE TO SHARE? THIS IS YOUR LAST

3468
01:54:39,539 --> 01:54:43,209
CHANCE TO MAKE A PITCH YES, 

3469
01:54:43,209 --> 01:54:45,211
MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER

3470
01:54:45,211 --> 01:54:46,412
FOSTER, TAKE US HOME. 

3471
01:54:46,412 --> 01:54:47,046
-- ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU SO 

3472
01:54:47,046 --> 01:54:48,248
MUCH. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE 

3473
01:54:48,248 --> 01:54:49,148
RIDING ON THE TRAIN FOR A LITTLE

3474
01:54:49,148 --> 01:54:50,350
WHILE BEFORE WE GET HOME. 

3475
01:54:50,350 --> 01:54:51,217
BECAUSE, COLLEAGUES, YOU BROUGHT

3476
01:54:51,217 --> 01:54:52,852
UP SOME GREAT POINTS THAT I WANT

3477
01:54:52,852 --> 01:54:54,320
TO JUST TOUCH ON. SO THANK YOU 

3478
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:58,224
SO MUCH, CHAIR. WHAT A GREAT 

3479
01:54:58,224 --> 01:55:00,293
DISCUSSION TODAY. SO THANK YOU 

3480
01:55:00,293 --> 01:55:01,327
SO MUCH TO ALL MY COLLEAGUES 

3481
01:55:01,327 --> 01:55:04,163
HERE. AND AGAIN, TO THE TABLE 

3482
01:55:04,163 --> 01:55:06,099
FOR SUCH A ROBUST DISCUSSION, 

3483
01:55:06,099 --> 01:55:06,599
SOMETHING THAT ANOTHER 

3484
01:55:06,599 --> 01:55:07,734
COUNCILMEMBER SAID JUST REMINDED

3485
01:55:07,734 --> 01:55:08,434
ME OF SOMETHING I WANTED TO TALK

3486
01:55:08,434 --> 01:55:09,903
ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOME 

3487
01:55:09,903 --> 01:55:12,138
OWNERSHIP, WHICH YOU ALL KNOW, 

3488
01:55:12,138 --> 01:55:13,106
BECAUSE I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL 

3489
01:55:13,106 --> 01:55:14,440
THE TIME IN COMMITTEE. I CARE 

3490
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:15,875
DEEPLY ABOUT I OWN MY HOME 

3491
01:55:15,875 --> 01:55:18,678
BECAUSE OF CITY INVESTMENTS IN 

3492
01:55:18,678 --> 01:55:20,046
HOME OWNERSHIP. AND SO I'M JUST

3493
01:55:20,046 --> 01:55:21,748
LIVING PROOF OF HOW IMPORTANT 

3494
01:55:21,748 --> 01:55:23,616
THAT IS. AND I THINK IN THE 

3495
01:55:23,616 --> 01:55:24,751
COURSE OF THAT CONVERSATION, WE 

3496
01:55:24,751 --> 01:55:26,286
STARTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF 

3497
01:55:26,286 --> 01:55:27,921
THE ONE TIME ADS. AND SO 

3498
01:55:27,921 --> 01:55:29,222
THERE'S SORT OF THERE'S TWO 

3499
01:55:29,222 --> 01:55:31,491
THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP HERE. 

3500
01:55:31,491 --> 01:55:33,126
ONE IS JUST A QUESTION THAT HAD 

3501
01:55:33,126 --> 01:55:34,060
BEEN FLOATING AROUND IN MY HEAD 

3502
01:55:34,060 --> 01:55:36,629
FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, AS 

3503
01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:37,163
WE'VE HAD SOME COUNCIL 

3504
01:55:37,163 --> 01:55:38,097
DISCUSSION. I THINK THIS IS 

3505
01:55:38,097 --> 01:55:39,699
PROBABLY APPROPRIATE FOR 

3506
01:55:39,699 --> 01:55:42,702
DIRECTOR PANUCCI. DO WE KNOW, 

3507
01:55:42,702 --> 01:55:44,637
YOU KNOW, IF WE IF THOSE ONE 

3508
01:55:44,637 --> 01:55:47,407
TIME ADS HAD BEEN INCORPORATED 

3509
01:55:47,407 --> 01:55:50,376
INTO THE BASELINE BUDGET, DO WE 

3510
01:55:50,376 --> 01:55:52,679
KNOW WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT

3511
01:55:52,679 --> 01:55:54,948
CUTTING? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE 

3512
01:55:54,948 --> 01:55:56,716
HAD THIS $175 MILLION DEFICIT 

3513
01:55:56,716 --> 01:55:57,383
WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT 

3514
01:55:57,383 --> 01:55:58,584
THROUGH A LOT OF REALLY 

3515
01:55:58,584 --> 01:55:59,452
DIFFICULT DECISIONS. AS YOU, AS 

3516
01:55:59,452 --> 01:56:01,054
YOU SAID, DIRECTOR PANUCCI, A 

3517
01:56:01,054 --> 01:56:03,589
FEW TIMES. BUT IF THOSE ONE TIME

3518
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:05,391
ADS HAD BEEN ONGOING, DO WE KNOW

3519
01:56:05,391 --> 01:56:06,426
WHAT WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT? 

3520
01:56:06,426 --> 01:56:08,661
CUTTING FROM THE BUDGET? 

3521
01:56:08,661 --> 01:56:09,195
-- YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT 

3522
01:56:09,195 --> 01:56:11,898
QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER 

3523
01:56:11,898 --> 01:56:12,932
IN THE GENERAL FUND, THERE WERE 

3524
01:56:12,932 --> 01:56:17,070
ABOUT $53 MILLION OF ONE TIME 

3525
01:56:17,070 --> 01:56:18,638
ADS INCLUDED IN THE 2026 BUDGET.

3526
01:56:18,638 --> 01:56:20,473
SO THAT WAS $53 MILLION. THAT 

3527
01:56:20,473 --> 01:56:25,311
WAS NOT CALCULATED WHEN WE WERE 

3528
01:56:25,311 --> 01:56:25,845
TALKING ABOUT 150 TO $175 

3529
01:56:25,845 --> 01:56:28,881
MILLION PROJECTED DEFICIT, 

3530
01:56:28,881 --> 01:56:30,350
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND $15 

3531
01:56:30,350 --> 01:56:32,218
MILLION OF THOSE ONE TIME ADS 

3532
01:56:32,218 --> 01:56:35,388
ARE MADE ONGOING IN THE 27 

3533
01:56:35,388 --> 01:56:37,924
PROPOSED BUDGET. AND THEN IN THE

3534
01:56:37,924 --> 01:56:39,158
JUMPSTART FUND. AND I'M JUST 

3535
01:56:39,158 --> 01:56:40,126
GOING TO RAISE THIS AS WELL, 

3536
01:56:40,126 --> 01:56:42,495
BECAUSE OF THE SORT OF 

3537
01:56:42,495 --> 01:56:44,097
INTERMINGLING OF THE THESE FUND 

3538
01:56:44,097 --> 01:56:48,601
SOURCES. THERE WAS ANOTHER ABOUT

3539
01:56:48,601 --> 01:56:53,006
$25 MILLION OF ONE TIME ADS. SO 

3540
01:56:53,006 --> 01:56:53,639
COLLECTIVELY, AROUND $78 MILLION

3541
01:56:53,639 --> 01:56:58,144
OF ONE TIME EXPENDITURES 

3542
01:56:58,144 --> 01:56:59,946
INCLUDED IN THE 2026 BUDGET THAT

3543
01:56:59,946 --> 01:57:00,480
WHEN LOOKING AT PROJECTED 

3544
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:01,881
ONGOING DEFICITS, WERE NOT 

3545
01:57:01,881 --> 01:57:03,583
CALCULATED 

3546
01:57:03,583 --> 01:57:05,218
-- SO I DID I HEAR 75 MILLION. 

3547
01:57:05,218 --> 01:57:07,553
IS THAT WHAT I GOT? 

3548
01:57:07,553 --> 01:57:09,722
-- YEAH, IT'S 53 PLUS 25. SO 

3549
01:57:09,722 --> 01:57:13,960
ABOUT 78 TO BE. A LITTLE MORE 

3550
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:14,227
PRECISE. 

3551
01:57:14,227 --> 01:57:15,461
-- I'LL TAKE IT. DIRECTOR. 

3552
01:57:15,461 --> 01:57:17,530
THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE

3553
01:57:17,530 --> 01:57:18,765
THAT CLARIFICATION. IT'S JUST 

3554
01:57:18,765 --> 01:57:19,399
BEEN SOMETHING I WAS THINKING 

3555
01:57:19,399 --> 01:57:21,567
ABOUT THROUGH SOME OF OUR 

3556
01:57:21,567 --> 01:57:22,869
PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS. AND THEN

3557
01:57:22,869 --> 01:57:24,103
LOOKING AT THE SLIDE THAT WE 

3558
01:57:24,103 --> 01:57:27,006
HAVE ON THE SCREEN. I, I WANT TO

3559
01:57:27,006 --> 01:57:29,675
PERHAPS STATE THE OBVIOUS, WHICH

3560
01:57:29,675 --> 01:57:31,210
IS THE ZERO IN GENERAL FUND THAT

3561
01:57:31,210 --> 01:57:33,913
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING RECEIVES. 

3562
01:57:33,913 --> 01:57:35,615
AND I THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS

3563
01:57:35,615 --> 01:57:37,050
I THINK I WANT TO MAKE HERE JUST

3564
01:57:37,050 --> 01:57:39,085
BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 

3565
01:57:39,085 --> 01:57:41,521
THE IMPACTS OF AFFORDABILITY, 

3566
01:57:41,521 --> 01:57:44,257
THE IMPACTS TO TO SEATTLE 

3567
01:57:44,257 --> 01:57:46,125
RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS IS ARE 

3568
01:57:46,125 --> 01:57:46,692
THERE HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS 

3569
01:57:46,692 --> 01:57:49,629
RECEIVE $0 FROM THE GENERAL FUND

3570
01:57:49,629 --> 01:57:52,799
-- THERE ARE TWO. THE OFFICE OF 

3571
01:57:52,799 --> 01:57:54,133
ARTS AND CULTURES AND THE OFFICE

3572
01:57:54,133 --> 01:57:55,802
OF HOUSING. AND JUST FOR ANYONE 

3573
01:57:55,802 --> 01:57:56,502
WHO REALLY LOVES TO READ THE 

3574
01:57:56,502 --> 01:57:58,070
BUDGET BOOK, THERE ARE SOME 

3575
01:57:58,070 --> 01:58:00,073
DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T RECEIVE 

3576
01:58:00,073 --> 01:58:00,506
DIRECT GENERAL FUND 

3577
01:58:00,506 --> 01:58:02,008
APPROPRIATION, SO IT WILL APPEAR

3578
01:58:02,008 --> 01:58:02,608
LIKE THE OFFICE OF LABOR 

3579
01:58:02,608 --> 01:58:03,776
STANDARDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE 

3580
01:58:03,776 --> 01:58:06,045
THEIR OWN FUND. THEIR MONEY 

3581
01:58:06,045 --> 01:58:07,280
FLOWS THROUGH FINANCE GENERAL. 

3582
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:08,581
AND THEN TO THE. SO I JUST WANT 

3583
01:58:08,581 --> 01:58:10,349
TO FLAG IF ANYONE WAS LOOKING AT

3584
01:58:10,349 --> 01:58:11,250
THEIR BUDGET, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE

3585
01:58:11,250 --> 01:58:12,418
THEY DON'T GET GENERAL FUND, BUT

3586
01:58:12,418 --> 01:58:13,653
THEY ARE PRIMARILY SUPPORTED BY 

3587
01:58:13,653 --> 01:58:15,688
THE GENERAL FUND. SO JUST TWO 

3588
01:58:15,688 --> 01:58:17,857
OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND 

3589
01:58:17,857 --> 01:58:20,026
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING. 

3590
01:58:20,026 --> 01:58:22,462
-- I HAVE TO SAY, I FEEL 

3591
01:58:22,462 --> 01:58:23,095
DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED 

3592
01:58:23,095 --> 01:58:23,429
THERE BECAUSE 

3593
01:58:23,429 --> 01:58:23,763
-- [LAUGHTER] 

3594
01:58:23,763 --> 01:58:25,364
-- BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN ARE IN 

3595
01:58:25,364 --> 01:58:26,933
MY COMMITTEE, BUT I WON'T I 

3596
01:58:26,933 --> 01:58:28,367
WON'T TAKE THAT PERSONALLY, BUT

3597
01:58:28,367 --> 01:58:30,169
I THINK IT'S A HELPFUL 

3598
01:58:30,169 --> 01:58:31,537
CLARIFICATION, AND I APPRECIATE 

3599
01:58:31,537 --> 01:58:33,039
MY COLLEAGUES BRINGING UP THE 

3600
01:58:33,039 --> 01:58:35,074
IMPACT TO, TO, TO SEATTLE 

3601
01:58:35,074 --> 01:58:37,443
RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS. BUT I 

3602
01:58:37,443 --> 01:58:39,212
KNOW OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A 

3603
01:58:39,212 --> 01:58:40,880
HISTORIC HOUSING LEVY THAT'S 

3604
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,048
REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT THERE WAS 

3605
01:58:42,048 --> 01:58:43,216
JUST SOME POINTS AROUND 

3606
01:58:43,216 --> 01:58:44,951
TAXPAYERS THAT I WANTED TO ASK 

3607
01:58:44,951 --> 01:58:47,920
YOU TO CLARIFY. WHEN IT COMES TO

3608
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:49,455
JUMP START AND WHEN IT COMES TO 

3609
01:58:49,455 --> 01:58:51,157
THE SEATTLE SOCIAL HOUSING 

3610
01:58:51,157 --> 01:58:52,225
DEVELOPER, IN TERMS OF WHO IT IS

3611
01:58:52,225 --> 01:58:54,193
THAT IS PAYING INTO THOSE. SO 

3612
01:58:54,193 --> 01:58:54,827
CAN I ASK AND MAYBE THIS IS, 

3613
01:58:54,827 --> 01:58:58,364
AGAIN, FOR DIRECTOR PANUCCI THE 

3614
01:58:58,364 --> 01:58:59,699
HOW THOSE ARE STRUCTURED. I JUST

3615
01:58:59,699 --> 01:59:00,933
WANT TO KEEP THIS FOREFRONT. I 

3616
01:59:00,933 --> 01:59:03,136
KNOW WE KNOW THIS HERE AT THE 

3617
01:59:03,136 --> 01:59:05,071
DAIS, BUT FOR ANYBODY WHO'S IN 

3618
01:59:05,071 --> 01:59:06,305
THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT'S 

3619
01:59:06,305 --> 01:59:09,876
WATCHING TO MAKE THAT 

3620
01:59:09,876 --> 01:59:10,877
DISTINCTION. 

3621
01:59:10,877 --> 01:59:14,547
-- I ACTUALLY CAN'T OFF THE TOP

3622
01:59:14,547 --> 01:59:15,148
OF MY HEAD, SPEAK DIRECTLY TO 

3623
01:59:15,148 --> 01:59:18,084
THE THE DISTINCTIONS. THERE ARE 

3624
01:59:18,084 --> 01:59:20,720
DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS FOR WHO 

3625
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,488
PAYS INTO THE JUMPSTART TAX AND 

3626
01:59:22,488 --> 01:59:24,257
FOR THE SOCIAL HOUSING 

3627
01:59:24,257 --> 01:59:26,092
DEVELOPER, IT IS THE THE HIGHER 

3628
01:59:26,092 --> 01:59:28,427
THRESHOLD. SO COMPANIES WHO EARN

3629
01:59:28,427 --> 01:59:31,898
MORE OR OR EARN MORE MONEY. BUT 

3630
01:59:31,898 --> 01:59:33,132
I DON'T HAVE THAT THRESHOLD OFF

3631
01:59:33,132 --> 01:59:34,901
THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 

3632
01:59:34,901 --> 01:59:36,402
-- THAT'S OKAY. I KNOW WE'RE 

3633
01:59:36,402 --> 01:59:37,770
HERE TO TALK ABOUT OFFICE OF 

3634
01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:39,772
HOUSING AND THAT OBVIOUSLY THE 

3635
01:59:39,772 --> 01:59:40,840
SOCIAL HOUSING DEVELOPER TAX 

3636
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:42,175
DOES NOT COME INTO THE OFFICE OF

3637
01:59:42,175 --> 01:59:45,044
HOUSING, BUT I THINK IT'S 5% ON

3638
01:59:45,044 --> 01:59:46,746
INCOMES OR WAGES ABOVE $1 

3639
01:59:46,746 --> 01:59:48,581
MILLION, IF I REMEMBER 

3640
01:59:48,581 --> 01:59:49,682
CORRECTLY. AND I KNOW THERE'S 

3641
01:59:49,682 --> 01:59:50,616
GRADATION WITH JUMPSTART, BUT I 

3642
01:59:50,616 --> 01:59:51,517
JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT 

3643
01:59:51,517 --> 01:59:52,652
DISTINCTION AS WE'RE TALKING 

3644
01:59:52,652 --> 01:59:54,954
ABOUT SORT OF THE TAXPAYER AND 

3645
01:59:54,954 --> 01:59:57,490
IMPACTS. OH, WERE YOU SAYING 

3646
01:59:57,490 --> 01:59:58,591
SOMETHING? NO. OKAY. I JUST WANT

3647
01:59:58,591 --> 01:59:59,392
TO BRING THAT DISTINCTION. SO 

3648
01:59:59,392 --> 02:00:00,226
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND AGAIN, 

3649
02:00:00,226 --> 02:00:01,661
IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT 

3650
02:00:01,661 --> 02:00:02,295
SOMEBODY PAYING AT THE END OF 

3651
02:00:02,295 --> 02:00:03,763
THE DAY, BUT I WANTED TO 

3652
02:00:03,763 --> 02:00:04,964
CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S 

3653
02:00:04,964 --> 02:00:06,933
GENERAL FUND, WHAT IS OUR 

3654
02:00:06,933 --> 02:00:10,069
PROPERTY TAX LEVY? AND THEN WHAT

3655
02:00:10,069 --> 02:00:12,538
IS THROUGH OUR OUR PAYROLL 

3656
02:00:12,538 --> 02:00:13,706
EXPENSE TAX, I THINK A FEW OTHER

3657
02:00:13,706 --> 02:00:17,476
THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON

3658
02:00:17,476 --> 02:00:18,578
BEFORE WE BEFORE WE WRAP UP, 

3659
02:00:18,578 --> 02:00:19,946
JUST THE THINGS I WANTED TO 

3660
02:00:19,946 --> 02:00:21,514
HIGHLIGHT GOING BACK TO THE 

3661
02:00:21,514 --> 02:00:22,648
HOMEOWNERSHIP. AND THANK YOU SO 

3662
02:00:22,648 --> 02:00:23,616
MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, FOR 

3663
02:00:23,616 --> 02:00:25,718
BRINGING THIS UP. AND I WANTED 

3664
02:00:25,718 --> 02:00:26,519
TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED 

3665
02:00:26,519 --> 02:00:28,454
ABOUT THIS DIRECTOR LARSON, I 

3666
02:00:28,454 --> 02:00:29,121
KNOW THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR 

3667
02:00:29,121 --> 02:00:30,456
YOU, DIRECTOR, BUT WE TALKED 

3668
02:00:30,456 --> 02:00:32,491
ABOUT THE. HARVEY. AND I JUST 

3669
02:00:32,491 --> 02:00:34,493
WANT TO SAY THIS IS SOMETHING I 

3670
02:00:34,493 --> 02:00:38,197
THINK IS UNDERRATED IN TERMS OF 

3671
02:00:38,197 --> 02:00:39,265
WORK THAT THE OFFICE OF HOUSING 

3672
02:00:39,265 --> 02:00:41,500
HAS DONE THIS YEAR. AND THAT 

3673
02:00:41,500 --> 02:00:42,468
ACQUISITION AND THE FACT THAT 

3674
02:00:42,468 --> 02:00:44,036
NOT ONLY WILL IT BE 

3675
02:00:44,036 --> 02:00:46,272
HOMEOWNERSHIP, BUT IT'LL BE 

3676
02:00:46,272 --> 02:00:46,872
HOMEOWNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY 

3677
02:00:46,872 --> 02:00:47,807
PREFERENCE APPLIED IN THE 

3678
02:00:47,807 --> 02:00:49,242
CENTRAL DISTRICT, WHICH REALLY 

3679
02:00:49,242 --> 02:00:51,877
JUST GIVES US A REALLY FANTASTIC

3680
02:00:51,877 --> 02:00:53,179
OPPORTUNITY TO DO HOMEOWNERSHIP 

3681
02:00:53,179 --> 02:00:54,780
RIGHT ALONG WITH EQUITY IS JUST 

3682
02:00:54,780 --> 02:00:56,415
SOMETHING I DON'T THINK WE 

3683
02:00:56,415 --> 02:00:58,351
COULD APPLAUD ENOUGH. AND SO I 

3684
02:00:58,351 --> 02:00:59,018
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

3685
02:00:59,018 --> 02:01:00,786
IN TERMS OF WORK IN THE 

3686
02:01:00,786 --> 02:01:02,388
PIPELINE. BUT I WANTED TO JUST 

3687
02:01:02,388 --> 02:01:03,756
BRING THAT THAT FINER POINT TO 

3688
02:01:03,756 --> 02:01:07,693
THAT. I THINK THAT BRINGS ME TO 

3689
02:01:07,693 --> 02:01:08,861
THE THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.

3690
02:01:08,861 --> 02:01:09,996
AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MY 

3691
02:01:09,996 --> 02:01:12,932
COLLEAGUES, FOR THE DISCUSSION 

3692
02:01:12,932 --> 02:01:14,367
THAT HELPED ME ROUND OUT THINGS 

3693
02:01:14,367 --> 02:01:16,202
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY. SO 

3694
02:01:16,202 --> 02:01:18,904
I'LL CLOSE CHAIR BY SAYING, I 

3695
02:01:18,904 --> 02:01:22,074
THINK OUR INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE

3696
02:01:22,074 --> 02:01:22,708
MAKING IN HOUSING ARE HISTORIC, 

3697
02:01:22,708 --> 02:01:25,278
AS YOU MENTIONED, AND ALSO, AS 

3698
02:01:25,278 --> 02:01:27,113
WE HEARD TODAY, GIVEN THE 

3699
02:01:27,113 --> 02:01:28,914
ONGOING OPERATIONS CHALLENGES, 

3700
02:01:28,914 --> 02:01:29,482
GIVEN THE CHALLENGES IN THE 

3701
02:01:29,482 --> 02:01:30,349
PIPELINE, IT'S ANOTHER AREA 

3702
02:01:30,349 --> 02:01:33,152
WHERE IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE EVER

3703
02:01:33,152 --> 02:01:34,987
DOING ENOUGH BECAUSE THE NEED IS

3704
02:01:34,987 --> 02:01:36,756
SO HIGH, PARTICULARLY IN THAT 0 

3705
02:01:36,756 --> 02:01:39,492
TO 30% SPACE, AS YOU ALL HAVE 

3706
02:01:39,492 --> 02:01:40,126
ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED. SO I'LL 

3707
02:01:40,126 --> 02:01:41,861
JUST CLOSE WITH SAYING AGAIN MY 

3708
02:01:41,861 --> 02:01:45,097
GRATITUDE TO THE OFFICE FOR YOUR

3709
02:01:45,097 --> 02:01:45,398
WORK. AND I 

3710
02:01:45,398 --> 02:01:45,998
-- THINK THE PIVOTS THAT ARE 

3711
02:01:45,998 --> 02:01:46,666
BEING MADE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT 

3712
02:01:46,666 --> 02:01:49,802
THIS YEAR ARE REALLY I'M 

3713
02:01:49,802 --> 02:01:50,436
HOPEFUL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO 

3714
02:01:50,436 --> 02:01:51,837
ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THESE 

3715
02:01:51,837 --> 02:01:53,639
REALLY STRONG INVESTMENTS. AND I

3716
02:01:53,639 --> 02:01:57,476
KNOW WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THIS 

3717
02:01:57,476 --> 02:01:58,010
INVESTMENT STABLE AND DO 

3718
02:01:58,010 --> 02:02:00,279
EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO TO 

3719
02:02:00,279 --> 02:02:00,846
MAINTAIN THOSE INVESTMENTS, 

3720
02:02:00,846 --> 02:02:01,480
PARTICULARLY WITH THOSE JUMP 

3721
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:02,648
START REVENUES. SO THANK YOU SO 

3722
02:02:02,648 --> 02:02:04,950
MUCH, DIRECTOR, AND THANK YOU SO

3723
02:02:04,950 --> 02:02:05,151
MUCH. 

3724
02:02:05,151 --> 02:02:06,819
-- CHAIR THANK YOU, 

3725
02:02:06,819 --> 02:02:08,888
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER, FOR 

3726
02:02:08,888 --> 02:02:11,123
LEADING US THROUGH HOUSING AND 

3727
02:02:11,123 --> 02:02:12,224
ARTS. WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO

3728
02:02:12,224 --> 02:02:14,560
TRANSITION TO OUR NEXT AGENDA 

3729
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:16,095
ITEM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE 

3730
02:02:16,095 --> 02:02:18,664
AN EASE OR RECESS. IF YOU DO 

3731
02:02:18,664 --> 02:02:21,333
NEED TO USE GET SOME SNACKS OR 

3732
02:02:21,333 --> 02:02:23,502
GET SOME WATER, JUST PLEASE DO 

3733
02:02:23,502 --> 02:02:26,605
SO NOW AND WATCH YOUR FIVE. THIS

3734
02:02:26,605 --> 02:02:30,576
IS WHERE EVERYONE TRANSFERS 

3735
02:02:30,576 --> 02:02:31,644
QUICKLY. THANK YOU. WE ARE 

3736
02:02:31,644 --> 02:02:33,479
GOING. YES. SO PLEASE TAKE THIS 

3737
02:02:33,479 --> 02:02:36,582
MOMENT. IF THE CLERK COULD READ 

3738
02:02:36,582 --> 02:02:38,684
THE SECOND ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

3739
02:02:38,684 --> 02:02:40,686
-- AGENDA ITEM TWO. SEATTLE. 

3740
02:02:40,686 --> 02:02:41,320
DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND 

3741
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:42,421
INSPECTIONS FOR BRIEFING AND 

3742
02:02:42,421 --> 02:02:43,856
DISCUSSION. 

3743
02:02:43,856 --> 02:02:46,559
-- THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE 

3744
02:02:46,559 --> 02:02:47,026
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF 

3745
02:02:47,026 --> 02:02:47,927
CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS. 

3746
02:02:47,927 --> 02:02:50,429
NEXT WE HAVE DIRECTOR SAM STEEL,

3747
02:02:50,429 --> 02:02:52,598
SHANE MERKOW STILL HAVE DIRECTOR

3748
02:02:52,598 --> 02:02:53,799
PANUCCI. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE 

3749
02:02:53,799 --> 02:02:56,368
OTHER FOLKS. YOU ALL AS YOU'RE 

3750
02:02:56,368 --> 02:02:58,237
TRANSFERRING. YOU ALL MADE A 

3751
02:02:58,237 --> 02:03:00,406
SURPRISE GUEST APPEARANCE LAST 

3752
02:03:00,406 --> 02:03:01,140
YEAR, I BELIEVE IN THE FINAL 

3753
02:03:01,140 --> 02:03:04,744
STAGES OF OUR BUDGET, WHICH WAS 

3754
02:03:04,744 --> 02:03:06,645
OUT OF STANDARD PRACTICE. SO I 

3755
02:03:06,645 --> 02:03:07,913
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE DURING

3756
02:03:07,913 --> 02:03:09,615
THIS PART OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET,

3757
02:03:09,615 --> 02:03:11,817
AS WELL AS THE LATE LAST MINUTE.

3758
02:03:11,817 --> 02:03:13,386
AND MAYBE YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU 

3759
02:03:13,386 --> 02:03:14,887
WERE COMING TO THE COMMITTEE 

3760
02:03:14,887 --> 02:03:16,188
TABLE CALL THAT WE MADE LAST 

3761
02:03:16,188 --> 02:03:18,657
NOVEMBER. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL

3762
02:03:18,657 --> 02:03:22,995
BACK. STILL HAVE QUORUM. IF YOU 

3763
02:03:22,995 --> 02:03:23,496
WANT TO JUST INTRODUCE 

3764
02:03:23,496 --> 02:03:24,530
YOURSELVES, WE'RE GOING TO GO 

3765
02:03:24,530 --> 02:03:26,599
THROUGH THE SAME PROGRAM, RUN 

3766
02:03:26,599 --> 02:03:28,134
THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION. WE'LL

3767
02:03:28,134 --> 02:03:29,635
TURN IT OVER COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

3768
02:03:29,635 --> 02:03:31,637
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. SO 

3769
02:03:31,637 --> 02:03:34,740
OVER TO YOU, DIRECTOR STEEL. 

3770
02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:37,076
-- THANK YOU, COMMITTEE CHAIR 

3771
02:03:37,076 --> 02:03:40,045
STRAUSS, I'M SAM STEEL, INTERIM

3772
02:03:40,045 --> 02:03:41,680
DIRECTOR OF SEATTLE DEPARTMENT 

3773
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:42,848
OF CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS.

3774
02:03:42,848 --> 02:03:43,382
-- AND I WILL JUST SAY, 

3775
02:03:43,382 --> 02:03:44,283
GENTLEMEN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE

3776
02:03:44,283 --> 02:03:46,285
TO MICK JAGGER PRETEND YOU'RE IN

3777
02:03:46,285 --> 02:03:47,319
THE ROLLING STONES. PULL THAT 

3778
02:03:47,319 --> 02:03:51,323
MICROPHONE CLOSE. THANK YOU. 

3779
02:03:51,323 --> 02:03:51,957
-- SHANE. 

3780
02:03:51,957 --> 02:03:55,561
-- SHANE. YOUR TURN. 

3781
02:03:55,561 --> 02:03:58,130
-- SHANE. SHANE, FINANCE 

3782
02:03:58,130 --> 02:03:58,531
DIRECTOR AT SDCI. 

3783
02:03:58,531 --> 02:04:00,232
-- THANK YOU. STILL HAVE 

3784
02:04:00,232 --> 02:04:01,133
DIRECTOR PANUCCI STILL HAVE 

3785
02:04:01,133 --> 02:04:02,201
DIRECTOR WHITSON. JUST TAKE IT 

3786
02:04:02,201 --> 02:04:04,770
AWAY, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. 

3787
02:04:04,770 --> 02:04:06,772
-- SO THANK YOU, COMMITTEE CHAIR

3788
02:04:06,772 --> 02:04:08,774
STRAUSS. AND I WANT TO JUST SAY 

3789
02:04:08,774 --> 02:04:11,677
THAT TO ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS. 

3790
02:04:11,677 --> 02:04:13,612
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY 

3791
02:04:13,612 --> 02:04:18,584
TO PRESENT OUR APPROACH ON 

3792
02:04:18,584 --> 02:04:23,255
PROVIDING A A SOLID FINANCIAL 

3793
02:04:23,255 --> 02:04:26,225
STEWARDSHIP WITH CAREFUL, 

3794
02:04:26,225 --> 02:04:26,826
THOUGHTFUL THOROUGHNESS. AND 

3795
02:04:26,826 --> 02:04:27,993
THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR BY THE 

3796
02:04:27,993 --> 02:04:31,897
PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. I ALSO WANT TO

3797
02:04:31,897 --> 02:04:33,399
THANK YOUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO 

3798
02:04:33,399 --> 02:04:35,634
HAVE SUPPORTED US. COUNCIL 

3799
02:04:35,634 --> 02:04:37,970
CENTRAL STAFF AND AS WELL AS 

3800
02:04:37,970 --> 02:04:42,041
DIRECTOR PANUCCI, FOR ALL YOUR 

3801
02:04:42,041 --> 02:04:42,675
WISDOM AND GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT 

3802
02:04:42,675 --> 02:04:50,683
ALL OF THIS. SO LEADING INTO OUR

3803
02:04:50,683 --> 02:04:55,354
PRESENTATION. OUR VISION, 

3804
02:04:55,354 --> 02:04:56,755
PURPOSE, AND VALUES HAVE 

3805
02:04:56,755 --> 02:04:59,024
REMAINED THE SAME FROM OUR LAST 

3806
02:04:59,024 --> 02:05:01,927
REPORTING PERIOD. WE ADMINISTER 

3807
02:05:01,927 --> 02:05:03,829
ORDINANCES REGULATING BUILDING 

3808
02:05:03,829 --> 02:05:06,198
CONSTRUCTION, USE OF LAND AND 

3809
02:05:06,198 --> 02:05:09,401
HOUSING. WE SUPPORT KEY 

3810
02:05:09,401 --> 02:05:10,035
PRIORITIES, INCLUDING DELIVERING

3811
02:05:10,035 --> 02:05:12,538
ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND BUILDING 

3812
02:05:12,538 --> 02:05:21,247
SAFER AND MORE JUST COMMUNITIES.

3813
02:05:21,247 --> 02:05:21,547
NEXT SLIDE. 

3814
02:05:21,547 --> 02:05:28,220
-- ALL RIGHT. SO ABOUT 91% OF 

3815
02:05:28,220 --> 02:05:29,922
OUR SDCI FUNDING COMES FROM 

3816
02:05:29,922 --> 02:05:31,690
PERMIT FEES, WITH THE REMAINING 

3817
02:05:31,690 --> 02:05:34,059
9% FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND 

3818
02:05:34,059 --> 02:05:35,494
OTHER SOURCES. STATE LAW 

3819
02:05:35,494 --> 02:05:37,296
REQUIRES PERMIT FEES TO REFLECT 

3820
02:05:37,296 --> 02:05:39,231
THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE 

3821
02:05:39,231 --> 02:05:42,134
SERVICES. AND THOSE REVENUES CAN

3822
02:05:42,134 --> 02:05:44,703
ONLY SUPPORT FEE RELATED WORK. 

3823
02:05:44,703 --> 02:05:45,671
OUR FOCUS IS ON ADVANCING THE 

3824
02:05:45,671 --> 02:05:47,473
CITY'S HOUSING AND PERMITTING 

3825
02:05:47,473 --> 02:05:50,109
PRIORITIES, IMPROVING SPEED AND 

3826
02:05:50,109 --> 02:05:50,743
PREDICTABILITY, AND SUSTAINING 

3827
02:05:50,743 --> 02:05:52,578
CORE SERVICES AS DEVELOPMENT 

3828
02:05:52,578 --> 02:05:56,582
ACTIVITY AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES

3829
02:05:56,582 --> 02:06:06,525
CHANGE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS 

3830
02:06:06,525 --> 02:06:07,860
OUR UPDATED MASTER USE PERMIT. 

3831
02:06:07,860 --> 02:06:10,262
SORRY, THIS IS OUR UPDATED 

3832
02:06:10,262 --> 02:06:13,899
MASTER USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS 

3833
02:06:13,899 --> 02:06:14,533
CHARTS THAT SHOWS BETWEEN 2000 

3834
02:06:14,533 --> 02:06:20,306
AND 7 TO THE 2026 PROJECTED YEAR

3835
02:06:20,306 --> 02:06:21,173
END AT THE FAR RIGHT. I GUESS IF

3836
02:06:21,173 --> 02:06:24,977
YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AND THE 

3837
02:06:24,977 --> 02:06:27,413
LEFT IS THE INTAKE VOLUME BY 

3838
02:06:27,413 --> 02:06:30,149
MASTER USE PERMIT TYPE AND 

3839
02:06:30,149 --> 02:06:31,250
SORRY, ON THE LEFT AND THEN ON 

3840
02:06:31,250 --> 02:06:35,120
THE RIGHT IS THE FEES INVOICED. 

3841
02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:38,657
AND YOU CAN SEE THE THE RISE AND

3842
02:06:38,657 --> 02:06:40,926
FALL OF BOTH. SO FOR 2026, OUR 

3843
02:06:40,926 --> 02:06:42,761
MASTER USE PERMIT APPLICATION 

3844
02:06:42,761 --> 02:06:46,665
VOLUMES ARE PROJECTED TO BE 

3845
02:06:46,665 --> 02:06:48,834
ABOUT 60% BELOW THE 2019 LEVELS.

3846
02:06:48,834 --> 02:06:50,135
WHILE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT 

3847
02:06:50,135 --> 02:06:53,572
APPLICATIONS ARE PROJECTED TO BE

3848
02:06:53,572 --> 02:06:56,075
ABOUT 15% BELOW 2019 VOLUMES. 

3849
02:06:56,075 --> 02:06:59,144
AND, YOU KNOW, PLEASE NOTE THAT 

3850
02:06:59,144 --> 02:07:00,879
THERE'S A PRECIPITOUS DROP IN 

3851
02:07:00,879 --> 02:07:02,448
MASTER USE PERMITS, INTAKE FEES,

3852
02:07:02,448 --> 02:07:06,352
INTAKE, AND FEES IN 2026. BOTH 

3853
02:07:06,352 --> 02:07:08,787
THE FEES INVOICE AND THE INTAKE 

3854
02:07:08,787 --> 02:07:09,355
VOLUMES ARE BELOW BELOW THE 

3855
02:07:09,355 --> 02:07:14,059
LEVELS IN THE RECESSION PERIOD 

3856
02:07:14,059 --> 02:07:21,533
OF 2009 AND 2010. UNDER 

3857
02:07:21,533 --> 02:07:25,537
CONSTRUCTION PERMIT APPLICATIONS

3858
02:07:25,537 --> 02:07:26,305
AGAIN, THIS SHOWS ON THE LEFT 

3859
02:07:26,305 --> 02:07:28,707
THE CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION 

3860
02:07:28,707 --> 02:07:29,475
PERMIT APPLICATION VOLUME, AND 

3861
02:07:29,475 --> 02:07:32,911
ON THE RIGHT, THE CONSTRUCTION 

3862
02:07:32,911 --> 02:07:36,382
PERMIT VALUATIONS IN BILLIONS OF

3863
02:07:36,382 --> 02:07:38,751
DOLLARS. CONSTRUCTION PERMIT 

3864
02:07:38,751 --> 02:07:39,284
APPLICATION VOLUMES HAVE 

3865
02:07:39,284 --> 02:07:41,787
IMPROVED SINCE 2024, BUT THE 

3866
02:07:41,787 --> 02:07:45,157
SHIFT TOWARDS SMALLER, LOW, 

3867
02:07:45,157 --> 02:07:46,759
LOWER VALUE PROJECTS HAS LIMITED

3868
02:07:46,759 --> 02:07:49,428
THE RECOVERY OF PERMIT FEE 

3869
02:07:49,428 --> 02:07:50,763
REVENUE. WE TOLD THE SAME STORY 

3870
02:07:50,763 --> 02:07:56,735
LAST YEAR AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. 

3871
02:07:56,735 --> 02:08:00,939
AND THEN THIS IS YOUR SLIDE. 

3872
02:08:00,939 --> 02:08:04,543
-- SO THIS IS WHERE WE GO INTO 

3873
02:08:04,543 --> 02:08:07,613
OUR DEPARTMENT RIGHT SIZING THIS

3874
02:08:07,613 --> 02:08:08,981
PROPOSAL REDUCES 34 FEE FUNDED 

3875
02:08:08,981 --> 02:08:10,883
POSITIONS, MOST OF WHICH ARE 

3876
02:08:10,883 --> 02:08:11,784
CURRENTLY VACANT. SO OUR 

3877
02:08:11,784 --> 02:08:13,719
STAFFING LEVELS ARE BETTER 

3878
02:08:13,719 --> 02:08:15,554
ALIGNED WITH THE WORKLOAD WE'RE

3879
02:08:15,554 --> 02:08:17,523
SEEING BASED ON OUR CURRENT 

3880
02:08:17,523 --> 02:08:20,325
PROJECTIONS, WE DON'T 

3881
02:08:20,325 --> 02:08:20,893
ANTICIPATE IMPACTS TO CORE 

3882
02:08:20,893 --> 02:08:23,128
PERMITTING INSPECTIONS, ISSUANCE

3883
02:08:23,128 --> 02:08:24,797
OR OVERALL TIMELINES. WE ARE 

3884
02:08:24,797 --> 02:08:27,332
STILL RELYING ON FUND BALANCE IN

3885
02:08:27,332 --> 02:08:29,501
THE NEAR TERM FUTURE. BUT THESE 

3886
02:08:29,501 --> 02:08:31,970
REDUCTIONS HELP SLOW THAT 

3887
02:08:31,970 --> 02:08:34,807
DRAWDOWN AND PRESERVE SOME 

3888
02:08:34,807 --> 02:08:36,608
FLEXIBILITY TO RESTORE STAFFING.

3889
02:08:36,608 --> 02:08:39,645
IF WORKLOAD BEGINS TO INCREASE 

3890
02:08:39,645 --> 02:08:42,114
AGAIN FOR THE FIELD POSITIONS, 

3891
02:08:42,114 --> 02:08:42,748
THE REDUCTIONS ARE CONCENTRATED 

3892
02:08:42,748 --> 02:08:45,918
IN AREAS WHERE WORKLOAD HAS 

3893
02:08:45,918 --> 02:08:48,654
DECLINED, PARTICULARLY 

3894
02:08:48,654 --> 02:08:49,154
CASHIERING AND PAYMENT 

3895
02:08:49,154 --> 02:08:51,490
PROCESSING AND DESIGN REVIEW 

3896
02:08:51,490 --> 02:08:54,026
RELATED WORK. WE ALSO HAVE 

3897
02:08:54,026 --> 02:08:57,029
SOMEWHAT LESS CAPACITY FOR 

3898
02:08:57,029 --> 02:09:04,703
INTERNAL SPECIAL PROJECTS NEXT 

3899
02:09:04,703 --> 02:09:07,673
SLIDE. THIS IS OUR 

3900
02:09:07,673 --> 02:09:08,140
IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW 

3901
02:09:08,140 --> 02:09:11,043
REGULATIONS. THE RENTAL 

3902
02:09:11,043 --> 02:09:13,378
REGULATION ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM 

3903
02:09:13,378 --> 02:09:15,214
HAS JUST BEEN RECENTLY ADDED. 

3904
02:09:15,214 --> 02:09:17,049
THIS PROPOSAL ADDS STAFF TO 

3905
02:09:17,049 --> 02:09:17,649
IMPLEMENT AND ENFORCE THE NEW 

3906
02:09:17,649 --> 02:09:20,552
RENTAL REGULATIONS ADOPTED UNDER

3907
02:09:20,552 --> 02:09:24,890
ORDINANCE 127497. IN ADDITION TO

3908
02:09:24,890 --> 02:09:28,427
THE STAFF, THE PROPOSAL ADDS 

3909
02:09:28,427 --> 02:09:33,031
$200,000. FOR CONTRACTING WITH 

3910
02:09:33,031 --> 02:09:35,267
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS 

3911
02:09:35,267 --> 02:09:37,836
FOR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION. THE 

3912
02:09:37,836 --> 02:09:38,370
ADDITIONAL STAFFING WOULD 

3913
02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:39,838
SUPPORT THE HIGHER VOLUME OF 

3914
02:09:39,838 --> 02:09:42,774
CASES. WE EXPECT, INCLUDING 

3915
02:09:42,774 --> 02:09:44,610
INVESTIGATIONS, OUTREACH, 

3916
02:09:44,610 --> 02:09:47,146
BUILDING WIDE ENFORCEMENT AND 

3917
02:09:47,146 --> 02:09:49,715
ASSISTANCE TO LANDLORDS. THE 

3918
02:09:49,715 --> 02:09:51,850
PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO BE 

3919
02:09:51,850 --> 02:09:53,085
SELF-SUPPORTING THROUGH A NEW 

3920
02:09:53,085 --> 02:09:55,988
FEE, WITH SOME ONE TIME 

3921
02:09:55,988 --> 02:09:59,391
IMPLEMENTATION SUPPORT INCLUDED 

3922
02:09:59,391 --> 02:10:02,227
IN 2027. THE STAFFING LEVEL IS 

3923
02:10:02,227 --> 02:10:04,997
INTENDED TO SUPPORT TIMELY AND 

3924
02:10:04,997 --> 02:10:06,965
CONSISTENT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE

3925
02:10:06,965 --> 02:10:08,600
ORDINANCE, WITH LESS CAPACITY, 

3926
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:11,236
WE WOULD EXPECT SLOWER CASE 

3927
02:10:11,236 --> 02:10:14,640
RESOLUTION, GROWING BACKLOGS AND

3928
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:20,445
LESS CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT THE 

3929
02:10:20,445 --> 02:10:24,016
NEXT SLIDE IS THE HOUSING OMBUDS

3930
02:10:24,016 --> 02:10:26,151
SUPPORT. THIS PROPOSAL 

3931
02:10:26,151 --> 02:10:28,987
ESTABLISHES A HOUSING OMBUDS TO 

3932
02:10:28,987 --> 02:10:31,790
HELP LOW INCOME AND COMMUNITY 

3933
02:10:31,790 --> 02:10:34,293
DRIVEN PROJECTS NAVIGATE THE 

3934
02:10:34,293 --> 02:10:34,960
CITY'S PERMITTING PROCESS AND 

3935
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:37,529
IMPROVE COORDINATION ACROSS 

3936
02:10:37,529 --> 02:10:38,697
DEPARTMENTS. THE GOAL IS TO 

3937
02:10:38,697 --> 02:10:41,767
REDUCE DELAYS, IMPROVE OUTCOMES 

3938
02:10:41,767 --> 02:10:44,570
FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS, 

3939
02:10:44,570 --> 02:10:46,205
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPONSORS AND 

3940
02:10:46,205 --> 02:10:46,738
THE RESIDENTS THAT THESE 

3941
02:10:46,738 --> 02:10:48,807
PROJECTS ARE INTENDED TO SERVE. 

3942
02:10:48,807 --> 02:10:50,776
THE POSITION IS FUNDED THROUGH 

3943
02:10:50,776 --> 02:10:52,578
THE JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE 

3944
02:10:52,578 --> 02:10:54,780
TAX FUND AND WAS INITIATED 

3945
02:10:54,780 --> 02:10:57,282
THROUGH MAYOR WILSON'S 

3946
02:10:57,282 --> 02:10:57,883
EXECUTIVE ORDER TO ACCELERATE 

3947
02:10:57,883 --> 02:11:00,385
HOUSING PRODUCTION. THE ADDED 

3948
02:11:00,385 --> 02:11:05,357
CAPACITY IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE 

3949
02:11:05,357 --> 02:11:05,991
MORE CONSISTENT NAVIGATION AND 

3950
02:11:05,991 --> 02:11:13,565
COORDINATION FOR THESE PROJECTS.

3951
02:11:13,565 --> 02:11:17,102
-- ALL RIGHT, SO AT SDCI, EVERY 

3952
02:11:17,102 --> 02:11:18,437
YEAR, WE REVIEW OUR FEES TO 

3953
02:11:18,437 --> 02:11:20,439
DETERMINE WHETHER ADJUSTMENTS 

3954
02:11:20,439 --> 02:11:22,708
ARE NEEDED TO MAINTAIN COST 

3955
02:11:22,708 --> 02:11:24,610
RECOVERY. AND THAT MEANS LOOKING

3956
02:11:24,610 --> 02:11:26,245
AT UPDATED WORKLOAD REVENUES, 

3957
02:11:26,245 --> 02:11:28,647
EXPENDITURES, STAFFING LEVELS, 

3958
02:11:28,647 --> 02:11:30,282
AND FUND BALANCE, AND 

3959
02:11:30,282 --> 02:11:32,384
DETERMINING WHETHER FEES NEED TO

3960
02:11:32,384 --> 02:11:34,653
INCREASE OR DECREASE. LAST YEAR,

3961
02:11:34,653 --> 02:11:35,887
WE INDICATED THAT WE COULD BE 

3962
02:11:35,887 --> 02:11:38,890
LOOKING AT A INCREASE IN THE 17 

3963
02:11:38,890 --> 02:11:43,161
TO 18% RANGE FOR 2027, BASED ON 

3964
02:11:43,161 --> 02:11:44,730
OUR UPDATED REVIEW, WE ARE 

3965
02:11:44,730 --> 02:11:45,697
PROPOSING A LOWER INCREASE FOR 

3966
02:11:45,697 --> 02:11:48,834
BUILDING AND LAND USE. 10.7% IN 

3967
02:11:48,834 --> 02:11:52,504
TOTAL, WHICH INCLUDES THREE, 

3968
02:11:52,504 --> 02:11:55,774
WHICH INCLUDES THE 3.7% 

3969
02:11:55,774 --> 02:11:57,509
INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT. THE 

3970
02:11:57,509 --> 02:11:58,076
OVERALL FEE LEGISLATION IS 

3971
02:11:58,076 --> 02:12:00,679
PROJECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT 6.3 

3972
02:12:00,679 --> 02:12:02,714
MILLION ANNUALLY. THESE 

3973
02:12:02,714 --> 02:12:05,317
ADDITIONAL REVENUES HELP IMPROVE

3974
02:12:05,317 --> 02:12:08,253
COST RECOVERY, REDUCE THE NEED 

3975
02:12:08,253 --> 02:12:10,489
TO FOR FURTHER STAFF REDUCTIONS 

3976
02:12:10,489 --> 02:12:13,625
AND SLOW THE USE OF FUND BALANCE

3977
02:12:13,625 --> 02:12:16,762
WHILE WE CONTINUE TO ADJUST TO 

3978
02:12:16,762 --> 02:12:17,930
CHANGING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY 

3979
02:12:17,930 --> 02:12:19,665
FOR REFRIGERATION AND FURNACE 

3980
02:12:19,665 --> 02:12:23,468
FEES, WE MADE SIGNIFICANT 

3981
02:12:23,468 --> 02:12:24,102
REDUCTIONS BETWEEN 2020 AND 2022

3982
02:12:24,102 --> 02:12:25,671
IN RESPONSE TO CHANGES IN THE 

3983
02:12:25,671 --> 02:12:28,573
HEATING AND COOLING MARKET AND 

3984
02:12:28,573 --> 02:12:30,609
INSTALLATION PATTERNS. THOSE 

3985
02:12:30,609 --> 02:12:32,811
CONDITIONS HAVE SINCE CHANGED, 

3986
02:12:32,811 --> 02:12:34,413
AND THE PROPOSED INCREASE IS 

3987
02:12:34,413 --> 02:12:35,747
INTENDED TO BRING REVENUES BACK 

3988
02:12:35,747 --> 02:12:37,149
INTO BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH THE 

3989
02:12:37,149 --> 02:12:40,385
COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE. 

3990
02:12:40,385 --> 02:12:43,055
EVEN WITH THE 2027 FEE INCREASE 

3991
02:12:43,055 --> 02:12:44,056
FOR THESE FOR REFRIGERATION AND 

3992
02:12:44,056 --> 02:12:46,258
FURNACE, THESE FEES WILL REMAIN 

3993
02:12:46,258 --> 02:12:48,427
WELL BELOW THEIR 2020 LEVELS. 

3994
02:12:48,427 --> 02:12:53,265
FOR, EXCUSE ME FOR BOILER AND 

3995
02:12:53,265 --> 02:12:54,132
CONVEYANCE FEES. WE ARE IN THE 

3996
02:12:54,132 --> 02:12:55,567
THIRD YEAR OF A FOUR YEAR EFFORT

3997
02:12:55,567 --> 02:12:57,502
TO BRING FEES TO A SUSTAINABLE 

3998
02:12:57,502 --> 02:13:00,105
LEVEL. THESE PROGRAMS HAD 

3999
02:13:00,105 --> 02:13:02,774
RECEIVED LITTLE BEYOND 

4000
02:13:02,774 --> 02:13:03,408
INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENTS SINCE 

4001
02:13:03,408 --> 02:13:04,710
2017, BUT OVER TIME, THEIR 

4002
02:13:04,710 --> 02:13:07,346
ACTUAL OPERATING COSTS BECAME 

4003
02:13:07,346 --> 02:13:09,014
CLEAR AS MANAGEMENT, 

4004
02:13:09,014 --> 02:13:11,216
ADMINISTRATION AND BUSINESS 

4005
02:13:11,216 --> 02:13:11,683
PROCESSES WERE BETTER 

4006
02:13:11,683 --> 02:13:15,988
STRENGTHENED OR STRENGTHENED. 

4007
02:13:15,988 --> 02:13:18,256
THE FEES INCREASES ARE INTENDED 

4008
02:13:18,256 --> 02:13:21,226
TO BRING FEE REVENUE INTO BETTER

4009
02:13:21,226 --> 02:13:22,127
ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT COST 

4010
02:13:22,127 --> 02:13:24,663
OF OPERATING. THOSE PROGRAMS. 

4011
02:13:24,663 --> 02:13:27,566
THE LEGISLATION ALSO ESTABLISHES

4012
02:13:27,566 --> 02:13:30,635
THE NEW RENTAL AGREEMENT 

4013
02:13:30,635 --> 02:13:32,070
REGULATION FEE, $11 PER RENTAL 

4014
02:13:32,070 --> 02:13:33,672
UNIT, EVERY TWO YEARS, OR THE 

4015
02:13:33,672 --> 02:13:36,708
EQUIVALENT OF 550 PER YEAR TO 

4016
02:13:36,708 --> 02:13:37,609
SUPPORT IMPLEMENTATION AND 

4017
02:13:37,609 --> 02:13:41,613
ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW RENTAL 

4018
02:13:41,613 --> 02:13:46,485
REGULATIONS. FUND BALANCE IMPACT

4019
02:13:46,485 --> 02:13:48,820
SLIDE. THIS CHART SHOWS THE 

4020
02:13:48,820 --> 02:13:51,823
CHANGE IN OUR OVERALL FUND 

4021
02:13:51,823 --> 02:13:55,060
BALANCE OVER TIME. WE WERE 

4022
02:13:55,060 --> 02:13:55,694
GENERALLY BETWEEN 80 MILLION TO 

4023
02:13:55,694 --> 02:13:58,830
100 MILLION THROUGH 2023, BUT 

4024
02:13:58,830 --> 02:14:00,932
SINCE THEN, WE'VE DRAWN DOWN 

4025
02:14:00,932 --> 02:14:01,566
THOSE BALANCES SIGNIFICANTLY AS 

4026
02:14:01,566 --> 02:14:04,269
PERMIT REVENUES HAVE DECLINED. 

4027
02:14:04,269 --> 02:14:06,571
BY THE END OF 2026, WE'RE 

4028
02:14:06,571 --> 02:14:09,241
PROJECTING AN OVERALL FUND 

4029
02:14:09,241 --> 02:14:11,376
BALANCE OF ROUGHLY $30 MILLION. 

4030
02:14:11,376 --> 02:14:13,645
THE FEE INCREASE IS PROPOSED FOR

4031
02:14:13,645 --> 02:14:16,014
2027, ALONG WITH THE EXPENDITURE

4032
02:14:16,014 --> 02:14:17,949
REDUCTIONS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER,

4033
02:14:17,949 --> 02:14:18,550
ARE EXPECTED TO STABILIZE THE 

4034
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:21,186
FUND BALANCE AND SLOW FURTHER 

4035
02:14:21,186 --> 02:14:23,288
EROSION. ONE IMPORTANT 

4036
02:14:23,288 --> 02:14:25,223
DISTINCTION IS THAT THE TOTAL 

4037
02:14:25,223 --> 02:14:27,926
FUND BALANCE INCLUDES DIFFERENT 

4038
02:14:27,926 --> 02:14:29,261
FUNDING COMPONENTS WITHIN THAT 

4039
02:14:29,261 --> 02:14:30,762
TOTAL, OUR BUILDING AND LAND USE

4040
02:14:30,762 --> 02:14:31,997
CORE STAFFING RESERVES ARE 

4041
02:14:31,997 --> 02:14:32,631
PROJECTED TO BE NEARLY EXHAUSTED

4042
02:14:32,631 --> 02:14:42,407
BY THE END OF 2026. AND THEN I 

4043
02:14:42,407 --> 02:14:43,542
WE HAD A SIMILAR SLIDE LAST 

4044
02:14:43,542 --> 02:14:45,077
YEAR, BUT THIS SHOWS THE IMPACT 

4045
02:14:45,077 --> 02:14:47,446
OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS FOR 

4046
02:14:47,446 --> 02:14:49,314
DIFFERENT SIZED AND DIFFERENT 

4047
02:14:49,314 --> 02:14:52,984
TYPES OF PROJECTS. FOR 500 

4048
02:14:52,984 --> 02:14:57,756
SQUARE FOOT DAD YOU IT. IT SHOWS

4049
02:14:57,756 --> 02:15:00,692
THAT THE. THE FEE INCREASE OF 

4050
02:15:00,692 --> 02:15:03,295
THE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS WILL BE

4051
02:15:03,295 --> 02:15:03,762
7% ABOVE OUR ASSUMED 

4052
02:15:03,762 --> 02:15:09,468
INFLATIONARY 3.7 INCREASE, 3.7% 

4053
02:15:09,468 --> 02:15:13,071
INCREASE. SO ON. ON THE 500 

4054
02:15:13,071 --> 02:15:14,573
SQUARE FOOT D ATU THE CHANGE FOR

4055
02:15:14,573 --> 02:15:20,846
ONE UNIT IS $369. MORE FOR 4500 

4056
02:15:20,846 --> 02:15:23,582
SQUARE FOOT, FOUR UNIT 

4057
02:15:23,582 --> 02:15:27,519
TOWNHOUSE, $372 PER UNIT FOR 

4058
02:15:27,519 --> 02:15:30,222
150,000 SQUARE FOOT, 230 UNIT 

4059
02:15:30,222 --> 02:15:34,659
APARTMENT WITH PARKING 

4060
02:15:34,659 --> 02:15:37,496
APPROXIMATELY $147. PER $147 PER

4061
02:15:37,496 --> 02:15:39,498
UNIT. AND THESE ARE JUST FOR 

4062
02:15:39,498 --> 02:15:47,572
ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY. 

4063
02:15:47,572 --> 02:15:50,141
-- THE NEXT SLIDE IS OUR 

4064
02:15:50,141 --> 02:15:52,777
POSITION CHANGES. TO SUMMARIZE, 

4065
02:15:52,777 --> 02:15:54,679
OUR POSITION CHANGES 34 

4066
02:15:54,679 --> 02:15:58,016
POSITIONS IN OUR BUILDING AND 

4067
02:15:58,016 --> 02:15:58,517
LAND USE FEE SUPPORTED 

4068
02:15:58,517 --> 02:16:00,752
OPERATIONS TO BETTER ALIGN 

4069
02:16:00,752 --> 02:16:03,288
STAFFING WITH CURRENT WORKLOAD 

4070
02:16:03,288 --> 02:16:04,890
AND AVAILABLE REVENUES. AS OF 

4071
02:16:04,890 --> 02:16:07,158
SEPTEMBER 1st, OF THE 34 

4072
02:16:07,158 --> 02:16:09,327
POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT, SEVEN

4073
02:16:09,327 --> 02:16:11,162
ARE FILLED. SO WE ARE 

4074
02:16:11,162 --> 02:16:13,999
ANTICIPATING SEVEN LAYOFFS. 

4075
02:16:13,999 --> 02:16:16,434
THESE REDUCTIONS GENERATE 

4076
02:16:16,434 --> 02:16:18,904
ONGOING SAVINGS WHILE PRESERVING

4077
02:16:18,904 --> 02:16:19,538
OUR CORE PERMITTING INSPECTION 

4078
02:16:19,538 --> 02:16:23,642
AND REGULATORY SERVICES BASED ON

4079
02:16:23,642 --> 02:16:26,244
CURRENT AND PROJECTED WORKLOAD. 

4080
02:16:26,244 --> 02:16:28,813
WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE A MATERIAL 

4081
02:16:28,813 --> 02:16:30,181
IMPACT TO PRIMARY PERMIT REVIEW,

4082
02:16:30,181 --> 02:16:33,018
ISSUANCE OR INSPECTION TIMELINES

4083
02:16:33,018 --> 02:16:35,854
FOR THE FILLED POSITIONS. THE 

4084
02:16:35,854 --> 02:16:38,657
REDUCTIONS REFLECT WORK THAT IS 

4085
02:16:38,657 --> 02:16:41,126
EITHER MATERIALLY DECLINED OR IS

4086
02:16:41,126 --> 02:16:41,626
SHIFTING AS DEPARTMENT 

4087
02:16:41,626 --> 02:16:46,464
PRIORITIES AND SERVICE DELIVERY 

4088
02:16:46,464 --> 02:16:50,168
CHANGE. QUESTIONS 

4089
02:16:50,168 --> 02:16:52,137
-- THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. 

4090
02:16:52,137 --> 02:16:54,573
DIRECTOR. ANYTHING TO ADD? 

4091
02:16:54,573 --> 02:16:55,740
DIRECTOR OR COUNCILMEMBER? LIN. 

4092
02:16:55,740 --> 02:16:57,075
SORRY TO GIVE YOU A PAY RAISE 

4093
02:16:57,075 --> 02:16:57,709
THERE. COUNCILMEMBER LIN AS 

4094
02:16:57,709 --> 02:16:59,578
CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, YOU ARE 

4095
02:16:59,578 --> 02:16:59,878
RECOGNIZED. 

4096
02:16:59,878 --> 02:17:01,379
-- THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU TO

4097
02:17:01,379 --> 02:17:05,850
OUR PRESENTERS. JUST START OFF 

4098
02:17:05,850 --> 02:17:09,354
WITH A FEW QUESTIONS. WELL FIRST

4099
02:17:09,354 --> 02:17:11,756
FIRST, THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO. 

4100
02:17:11,756 --> 02:17:13,758
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ALWAYS A 

4101
02:17:13,758 --> 02:17:17,095
LOT OF FOCUS ON ON HOW WE CAN DO

4102
02:17:17,095 --> 02:17:20,131
BETTER WITH OUR PERMIT REVIEWS 

4103
02:17:20,131 --> 02:17:23,301
AND SO ON. AND IT'S HARD. WE, 

4104
02:17:23,301 --> 02:17:25,737
WE IMPOSE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS 

4105
02:17:25,737 --> 02:17:26,671
AND ASK A LOT OF YOU AND ARE 

4106
02:17:26,671 --> 02:17:29,441
FROM OUR PERMIT REVIEWERS AND, 

4107
02:17:29,441 --> 02:17:30,976
AND ALSO A LOT OF PERMANENT 

4108
02:17:30,976 --> 02:17:32,344
REVIEWERS ARE NOT UNDER YOUR 

4109
02:17:32,344 --> 02:17:33,778
DIRECT CONTROL. A LOT OF FOLKS 

4110
02:17:33,778 --> 02:17:35,880
ARE UNDER OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU

4111
02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:38,817
KNOW, S DOT SPU SEATTLE CITY 

4112
02:17:38,817 --> 02:17:42,020
LIGHT FIRE AND SO ON. AND, YOU 

4113
02:17:42,020 --> 02:17:44,789
KNOW, AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE

4114
02:17:44,789 --> 02:17:46,524
STAFFING NUMBERS, IN SOME WAYS, 

4115
02:17:46,524 --> 02:17:47,926
IT DOESN'T SHOW THE FULL 

4116
02:17:47,926 --> 02:17:49,995
PICTURE OF THAT PERMIT REVIEW 

4117
02:17:49,995 --> 02:17:53,598
STAFF. AND I GUESS I'M NOT SURE

4118
02:17:53,598 --> 02:17:55,200
YOU KNOW, HOW THOSE OTHER 

4119
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:56,701
DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T 

4120
02:17:56,701 --> 02:17:58,303
COME UP IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND

4121
02:17:58,303 --> 02:17:59,371
THE UTILITIES AREN'T, AREN'T 

4122
02:17:59,371 --> 02:18:00,839
COMING BEFORE US. BUT I DON'T 

4123
02:18:00,839 --> 02:18:05,377
KNOW HOW THE DOWN DOWNTURN IN 

4124
02:18:05,377 --> 02:18:07,245
PERMIT ACTIVITY AFFECTS SORT OF 

4125
02:18:07,245 --> 02:18:07,879
THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO NOT 

4126
02:18:07,879 --> 02:18:09,414
A DIRECT QUESTION TO YOU, BUT 

4127
02:18:09,414 --> 02:18:12,317
JUST SORT OF A GENERAL 

4128
02:18:12,317 --> 02:18:13,652
PONDERING. BUT IF WE LOOK AT 

4129
02:18:13,652 --> 02:18:15,453
SLIDE FOUR AND THEN FIVE, JUST 

4130
02:18:15,453 --> 02:18:19,157
IN TERMS OF THE MUPS AND, YOU 

4131
02:18:19,157 --> 02:18:22,127
KNOW, WE THINK ABOUT 

4132
02:18:22,127 --> 02:18:24,829
CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND THE 

4133
02:18:24,829 --> 02:18:25,697
OBVIOUSLY ON HOUSING, JUST 

4134
02:18:25,697 --> 02:18:26,665
HAVING HEARING FROM THE OFFICE 

4135
02:18:26,665 --> 02:18:28,700
OF HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THE GREAT 

4136
02:18:28,700 --> 02:18:29,934
NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPLY, 

4137
02:18:29,934 --> 02:18:31,536
MARKET RATE, THE GREAT NEED FOR 

4138
02:18:31,536 --> 02:18:35,573
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU 

4139
02:18:35,573 --> 02:18:38,677
KNOW, ALL THE COROLLARY IMPACTS 

4140
02:18:38,677 --> 02:18:39,310
THAT GO ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTION,

4141
02:18:39,310 --> 02:18:40,378
WHETHER IT'S PERMIT FEES. 

4142
02:18:40,378 --> 02:18:42,347
YESTERDAY, WE HEARD FROM SDOT. 

4143
02:18:42,347 --> 02:18:43,848
THERE'S LESS STREET USE FEES 

4144
02:18:43,848 --> 02:18:46,251
BECAUSE THERE'S LESS 

4145
02:18:46,251 --> 02:18:46,885
CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY HAPPENING 

4146
02:18:46,885 --> 02:18:49,754
TO PAY FOR THOSE STREET USE 

4147
02:18:49,754 --> 02:18:52,357
FEES, SALES TAXES EMPLOYMENT AND

4148
02:18:52,357 --> 02:18:56,361
SO ON. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK 

4149
02:18:56,361 --> 02:18:58,363
YOU HAVE SDCI HAS THIS UNIQUE 

4150
02:18:58,363 --> 02:19:01,666
SORT OF INSIGHT INTO OUR ECONOMY

4151
02:19:01,666 --> 02:19:03,134
BECAUSE YOU SEE EARLY ON BEFORE,

4152
02:19:03,134 --> 02:19:04,736
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BREAKS 

4153
02:19:04,736 --> 02:19:06,938
GROUND, THERE'S YEARS OFTEN OF,

4154
02:19:06,938 --> 02:19:08,773
YOU KNOW, PERMIT REVIEWS THAT 

4155
02:19:08,773 --> 02:19:10,909
HAPPEN. AND SO JUST COULD YOU 

4156
02:19:10,909 --> 02:19:14,145
DESCRIBE IN GENERAL KIND OF 

4157
02:19:14,145 --> 02:19:15,847
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PERMIT?

4158
02:19:15,847 --> 02:19:19,117
IS THERE A CHANGE IN TYPES OF 

4159
02:19:19,117 --> 02:19:19,751
THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE? I MEAN, 

4160
02:19:19,751 --> 02:19:21,186
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT DOING 

4161
02:19:21,186 --> 02:19:22,287
OFFICE. HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT

4162
02:19:22,287 --> 02:19:23,788
FOR A WHILE, BUT COULD YOU JUST 

4163
02:19:23,788 --> 02:19:25,724
GENERALLY DESCRIBE WHAT'S 

4164
02:19:25,724 --> 02:19:27,125
HAPPENING WITH PERMIT ACTIVITY? 

4165
02:19:27,125 --> 02:19:30,361
-- YEAH. THANK YOU. 

4166
02:19:30,361 --> 02:19:33,331
COUNCILMEMBER LIN IS VERY 

4167
02:19:33,331 --> 02:19:33,832
CONCERNING TO US IN THE 

4168
02:19:33,832 --> 02:19:36,234
DEPARTMENT. WHEN WE SEE THE 

4169
02:19:36,234 --> 02:19:40,572
SCOPE AND THE VALUATION OF THE 

4170
02:19:40,572 --> 02:19:42,474
PROJECTS DO NOT MEET WHAT THEY 

4171
02:19:42,474 --> 02:19:47,045
WERE IN THE THE BOOM YEARS AND 

4172
02:19:47,045 --> 02:19:50,248
THE THE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE 

4173
02:19:50,248 --> 02:19:52,217
SMALLER, LESS COMPLEX, AND THEY 

4174
02:19:52,217 --> 02:19:56,388
HAVE, YOU KNOW, LESS VALUE ADDED

4175
02:19:56,388 --> 02:19:57,622
TO OUR PERMIT FEE COLLECTION 

4176
02:19:57,622 --> 02:19:59,958
ASPECT. WE'RE WE'RE STRUGGLING

4177
02:19:59,958 --> 02:20:03,061
RIGHT NOW WITH THAT AS WE'RE 

4178
02:20:03,061 --> 02:20:06,131
UNDERNEATH THE RECESSION LEVELS 

4179
02:20:06,131 --> 02:20:10,335
FOR, FOR THE PERMIT FEE INCOME. 

4180
02:20:10,335 --> 02:20:12,203
SO THAT IS VERY CONCERNING WITH 

4181
02:20:12,203 --> 02:20:12,937
THE STAFFING LEVELS THAT WE'RE 

4182
02:20:12,937 --> 02:20:15,340
CURRENTLY MANAGING OR STAFFING 

4183
02:20:15,340 --> 02:20:20,879
UP WITH IT. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE 

4184
02:20:20,879 --> 02:20:26,317
SOME SORT OF SLOW INCREASE IN 

4185
02:20:26,317 --> 02:20:28,553
RECOVERY, WHICH I CAN HAVE MY 

4186
02:20:28,553 --> 02:20:29,554
CHIEF ECONOMIC ECONOMIST COME UP

4187
02:20:29,554 --> 02:20:31,289
HERE AND GIVE YOU MORE OF A 

4188
02:20:31,289 --> 02:20:33,124
DETAILED BRIEFING ON. BUT AT 

4189
02:20:33,124 --> 02:20:35,493
THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, 

4190
02:20:35,493 --> 02:20:37,662
THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 

4191
02:20:37,662 --> 02:20:40,465
WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO WORK 

4192
02:20:40,465 --> 02:20:43,034
AROUND AND ANTICIPATE WHEN. BUT 

4193
02:20:43,034 --> 02:20:45,303
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE TRYING TO 

4194
02:20:45,303 --> 02:20:46,671
DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE 

4195
02:20:46,671 --> 02:20:49,474
TAXPAYERS AND, AND PRESERVE THE 

4196
02:20:49,474 --> 02:20:51,075
BALANCE OF THE FUND BALANCE THAT

4197
02:20:51,075 --> 02:20:54,846
WE HAVE LEFT. SO. 

4198
02:20:54,846 --> 02:20:57,749
-- THANK YOU. AND CERTAINLY, 

4199
02:20:57,749 --> 02:21:01,519
YEAH, IT'S PRETTY ALARMING AND 

4200
02:21:01,519 --> 02:21:03,388
CONCERNING ON MANY DIFFERENT 

4201
02:21:03,388 --> 02:21:05,590
LEVELS. YOU KNOW, THE REAL 

4202
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:06,758
ESTATE, THERE'S ALWAYS CYCLES 

4203
02:21:06,758 --> 02:21:07,892
AND THE REAL ESTATE WORLD. CAN 

4204
02:21:07,892 --> 02:21:12,096
YOU TALK ABOUT SORT OF HOW YOUR 

4205
02:21:12,096 --> 02:21:13,531
PLANNING TO MANAGE THIS CURRENT 

4206
02:21:13,531 --> 02:21:16,134
DOWNTURN? YOU KNOW, HOW YOU'VE 

4207
02:21:16,134 --> 02:21:16,701
MANAGED STAFFING AND PRIOR 

4208
02:21:16,701 --> 02:21:18,636
DOWNTURNS? I HEARD YOU SAY THAT,

4209
02:21:18,636 --> 02:21:20,939
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME 

4210
02:21:20,939 --> 02:21:22,474
RESERVES. SO IF THE PERMITTING 

4211
02:21:22,474 --> 02:21:23,408
STARTS TO TICK UP AND CERTAINLY,

4212
02:21:23,408 --> 02:21:25,844
YOU KNOW, THERE'S TALK ABOUT 

4213
02:21:25,844 --> 02:21:27,579
THINGS LIKE THE MH AYE 

4214
02:21:27,579 --> 02:21:29,180
ACCELERATOR AND HOPING TO GET 

4215
02:21:29,180 --> 02:21:31,950
SOME PERMITS PULLED AND PEOPLE 

4216
02:21:31,950 --> 02:21:34,152
BUILDING AGAIN. BUT COULD YOU 

4217
02:21:34,152 --> 02:21:36,020
JUST TALK ABOUT SORT OF HOW 

4218
02:21:36,020 --> 02:21:38,556
YOU'RE ANTICIPATING TO, TO 

4219
02:21:38,556 --> 02:21:40,525
MANAGE BOTH THE DOWN CYCLE, BUT 

4220
02:21:40,525 --> 02:21:41,693
ALSO IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET 

4221
02:21:41,693 --> 02:21:44,662
SOME CONSTRUCTION GOING AGAIN? 

4222
02:21:44,662 --> 02:21:48,299
-- THANK YOU. THAT QUESTION IS 

4223
02:21:48,299 --> 02:21:50,768
SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING 

4224
02:21:50,768 --> 02:21:54,005
ON. WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT

4225
02:21:54,005 --> 02:21:56,474
THE PERMIT VOLUMES. AND, AND HOW

4226
02:21:56,474 --> 02:21:59,844
WE'RE CAN INCREASE OUR CAPACITY

4227
02:21:59,844 --> 02:22:03,915
WITH LESS STAFF MEMBERS. WE'RE 

4228
02:22:03,915 --> 02:22:07,785
GOING THROUGH A LOT OF PROCESS 

4229
02:22:07,785 --> 02:22:10,288
CHANGES THAT WERE WERE INCLUDING

4230
02:22:10,288 --> 02:22:12,857
ALL OF OUR DIRECTORS IN THE, IN 

4231
02:22:12,857 --> 02:22:15,994
PROCESS CHANGE MANAGEMENT. 

4232
02:22:15,994 --> 02:22:18,496
THERE'S THINGS ALONG THE LINE 

4233
02:22:18,496 --> 02:22:23,635
THAT MAYBE ARE, WERE BEING 

4234
02:22:23,635 --> 02:22:25,436
VETTED OUT BY THE STATE. AND 

4235
02:22:25,436 --> 02:22:27,605
SOME OF THE REGULATIONS AND SOME

4236
02:22:27,605 --> 02:22:29,007
OF THE DESIGN REVIEW ASPECTS ARE

4237
02:22:29,007 --> 02:22:31,809
BEING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF 

4238
02:22:31,809 --> 02:22:33,444
DEREGULATED ALMOST IN THIS 

4239
02:22:33,444 --> 02:22:35,280
ASPECT FOR HOUSING. THE ONE 

4240
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:37,148
THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO 

4241
02:22:37,148 --> 02:22:40,752
CREATE IS A, WITH EXECUTIVE 

4242
02:22:40,752 --> 02:22:43,621
ORDER ON HOUSING IS TO INCREASE 

4243
02:22:43,621 --> 02:22:46,791
CAPACITY AND GETTING, GETTING 

4244
02:22:46,791 --> 02:22:52,830
THE, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT 

4245
02:22:52,830 --> 02:22:54,232
WE CAN KIND OF SKIM OFF THE TOP.

4246
02:22:54,232 --> 02:22:57,068
AND THE SIMPLEST OF THE PROJECTS

4247
02:22:57,068 --> 02:22:59,370
AND GET THEM OUT THE DOOR 

4248
02:22:59,370 --> 02:23:01,005
RESPONSIBLY, FASTER. SO THAT'S 

4249
02:23:01,005 --> 02:23:02,240
WE'RE WORKING ON A LOT OF THOSE

4250
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:04,676
AREAS 

4251
02:23:04,676 --> 02:23:06,010
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND 

4252
02:23:06,010 --> 02:23:08,613
CERTAINLY SUPER EXCITED ABOUT 

4253
02:23:08,613 --> 02:23:11,215
THE HOUSING OMBUDS. CERTAINLY 

4254
02:23:11,215 --> 02:23:11,816
EXCITED ABOUT ANY ADDITIONAL 

4255
02:23:11,816 --> 02:23:12,850
STREAMLINING WE CAN DO. I KNOW 

4256
02:23:12,850 --> 02:23:15,520
IT CAN JUST BE A LITTLE BIT OF A

4257
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:19,357
BITTER PILL FOR, FOR SOME OF OUR

4258
02:23:19,357 --> 02:23:19,958
HOUSING DEVELOPERS TO SWALLOW 

4259
02:23:19,958 --> 02:23:21,960
JUST TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO GO 

4260
02:23:21,960 --> 02:23:23,661
THROUGH LENGTHY PERMITTING AND 

4261
02:23:23,661 --> 02:23:25,496
THEN ALSO TO PAY THOSE FEES. 

4262
02:23:25,496 --> 02:23:27,732
AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE CAN 

4263
02:23:27,732 --> 02:23:28,666
DO, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE TAKEN 

4264
02:23:28,666 --> 02:23:30,535
EFFORTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE 

4265
02:23:30,535 --> 02:23:34,539
ADUS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE 

4266
02:23:34,539 --> 02:23:36,374
PRE-APPROVED. AND AS YOU 

4267
02:23:36,374 --> 02:23:37,542
MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO 

4268
02:23:37,542 --> 02:23:40,078
HAVE MORE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS 

4269
02:23:40,078 --> 02:23:41,346
FOR DESIGN REVIEW COMING FROM 

4270
02:23:41,346 --> 02:23:43,081
THE NEW STATE LAW. WE'VE DONE 

4271
02:23:43,081 --> 02:23:45,850
THINGS LIKE RAISING THRESHOLD 

4272
02:23:45,850 --> 02:23:49,087
EXEMPTIONS TO, TO MINIMIZE THE 

4273
02:23:49,087 --> 02:23:49,687
IMPACTS OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL 

4274
02:23:49,687 --> 02:23:51,289
REVIEW THAT JUST WEREN'T 

4275
02:23:51,289 --> 02:23:53,358
PROVIDING SORT OF REAL BENEFIT 

4276
02:23:53,358 --> 02:23:55,293
TO US BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW,

4277
02:23:55,293 --> 02:23:57,362
STRONG STANDARDS IN OUR CODES. 

4278
02:23:57,362 --> 02:23:58,262
AND, AND THERE'S JUST IT WAS 

4279
02:23:58,262 --> 02:23:59,564
REDUNDANT. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO

4280
02:23:59,564 --> 02:24:04,202
TO REDUCE THOSE REDUNDANCIES TO,

4281
02:24:04,202 --> 02:24:07,138
TO ALLOW FOR FASTER AND LESS 

4282
02:24:07,138 --> 02:24:08,940
COSTLY PERMITTING PROCESS, 

4283
02:24:08,940 --> 02:24:11,275
CERTAINLY, AND VERY SUPPORTIVE 

4284
02:24:11,275 --> 02:24:15,380
OF. AND I SEE SOMEBODY WANTING 

4285
02:24:15,380 --> 02:24:17,382
TO CHAT. 

4286
02:24:17,382 --> 02:24:19,584
-- SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO ADD 

4287
02:24:19,584 --> 02:24:22,053
ON THIS ON THIS THEME, THE 

4288
02:24:22,053 --> 02:24:24,155
MAYOR'S OFFICE IS LEADING A 

4289
02:24:24,155 --> 02:24:25,256
INTER-DEPARTMENTAL TEAM TO 

4290
02:24:25,256 --> 02:24:26,290
REALLY FOCUS ON SOME OF THESE 

4291
02:24:26,290 --> 02:24:27,558
THINGS. THEY HAVE ALL THE BIG 

4292
02:24:27,558 --> 02:24:31,295
DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED. SDCI, OF 

4293
02:24:31,295 --> 02:24:31,763
COURSE, DEPARTMENT OF 

4294
02:24:31,763 --> 02:24:33,064
TRANSPORTATION, CITY LIGHT, 

4295
02:24:33,064 --> 02:24:35,133
PUBLIC UTILITIES, THE FIRE 

4296
02:24:35,133 --> 02:24:37,035
DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OF THE GOALS

4297
02:24:37,035 --> 02:24:38,870
OF THIS IS SORT OF TO ONE, TO 

4298
02:24:38,870 --> 02:24:41,305
CREATE END TO END VISIBILITY. 

4299
02:24:41,305 --> 02:24:43,107
THIS WAS A LIKE I WORKED, I 

4300
02:24:43,107 --> 02:24:44,275
STARTED AS A LAND USE PLANNER. 

4301
02:24:44,275 --> 02:24:45,476
SO THIS IS SORT OF WHERE I 

4302
02:24:45,476 --> 02:24:47,378
STARTED MY CAREER IN THE PUBLIC 

4303
02:24:47,378 --> 02:24:48,413
SECTOR. AND NOW HERE I AM THE 

4304
02:24:48,413 --> 02:24:50,982
BUDGET DIRECTOR. BUT THIS, THIS 

4305
02:24:50,982 --> 02:24:53,885
WAS SURPRISING TO ME TO LEARN 

4306
02:24:53,885 --> 02:24:54,519
THAT CURRENTLY APPLICANTS NEED 

4307
02:24:54,519 --> 02:24:55,820
30 PLUS PERMITS FROM EIGHT 

4308
02:24:55,820 --> 02:24:58,256
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO BUILD 

4309
02:24:58,256 --> 02:25:00,091
HOUSING IN THE CITY. SO THAT IS 

4310
02:25:00,091 --> 02:25:01,092
ONE OF THE AREAS THAT ARE REALLY

4311
02:25:01,092 --> 02:25:04,495
BEING LOOKED AT, INCLUDING 

4312
02:25:04,495 --> 02:25:05,263
REALLY FOCUSING ON STREAMLINING 

4313
02:25:05,263 --> 02:25:06,597
THE SPEED OF RIGHT OF WAY AND 

4314
02:25:06,597 --> 02:25:07,699
UTILITY PERMITTING, AS THOSE ARE

4315
02:25:07,699 --> 02:25:09,834
KIND OF THE LONGEST DURATION. SO

4316
02:25:09,834 --> 02:25:12,303
THERE IS SOME WORK UNDERWAY THAT

4317
02:25:12,303 --> 02:25:14,939
IS THE SDCI IS A KEY PARTNER IN,

4318
02:25:14,939 --> 02:25:16,340
BUT IS SOMEWHAT LIKE, AS YOU 

4319
02:25:16,340 --> 02:25:18,676
MENTIONED, SOME OF THIS IS 

4320
02:25:18,676 --> 02:25:22,113
OUTSIDE OF THEIR THEIR CONTROL. 

4321
02:25:22,113 --> 02:25:24,449
-- THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, 

4322
02:25:24,449 --> 02:25:27,685
CHAIR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR 

4323
02:25:27,685 --> 02:25:27,885
NOW. 

4324
02:25:27,885 --> 02:25:28,519
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LIN.

4325
02:25:28,519 --> 02:25:29,454
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS UP.

4326
02:25:29,454 --> 02:25:32,323
SO IF YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK NOW, 

4327
02:25:32,323 --> 02:25:33,391
AT ANY POINT DURING THIS 

4328
02:25:33,391 --> 02:25:34,092
COMMITTEE, NOW IS THE TIME TO 

4329
02:25:34,092 --> 02:25:35,960
GET IN LINE. COUNCILMEMBER 

4330
02:25:35,960 --> 02:25:37,495
FOSTER FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER

4331
02:25:37,495 --> 02:25:38,963
KETTLE. 

4332
02:25:38,963 --> 02:25:40,198
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. I 

4333
02:25:40,198 --> 02:25:41,666
APPRECIATE THAT. I WANTED TO 

4334
02:25:41,666 --> 02:25:43,267
JUST TAKE A SECOND TO FIRST 

4335
02:25:43,267 --> 02:25:45,536
EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE 

4336
02:25:45,536 --> 02:25:46,938
MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR THE HOUSING 

4337
02:25:46,938 --> 02:25:47,872
OMBUDSMAN POSITION. I KNOW 

4338
02:25:47,872 --> 02:25:48,506
COUNCILMEMBER LIN JUST SPOKE TO 

4339
02:25:48,506 --> 02:25:50,775
IT, BUT I DO THINK I'M REALLY 

4340
02:25:50,775 --> 02:25:52,009
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE 

4341
02:25:52,009 --> 02:25:53,478
IMPACT THAT THAT POSITION IS 

4342
02:25:53,478 --> 02:25:55,213
GOING TO HAVE FOR OUR NONPROFIT 

4343
02:25:55,213 --> 02:25:56,881
HOUSING PROVIDERS AS THEY SEEK 

4344
02:25:56,881 --> 02:25:58,683
TO NAVIGATE THE 30 PLUS PERMITS 

4345
02:25:58,683 --> 02:25:59,984
IN THE SYSTEM AND OTHER WORK 

4346
02:25:59,984 --> 02:26:01,385
THAT I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING ON 

4347
02:26:01,385 --> 02:26:02,386
CHANGING AND MAKING EASIER TO 

4348
02:26:02,386 --> 02:26:03,454
NAVIGATE, BUT I AM REALLY 

4349
02:26:03,454 --> 02:26:04,155
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. I THINK

4350
02:26:04,155 --> 02:26:05,556
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY 

4351
02:26:05,556 --> 02:26:07,091
MEANINGFUL FOR FOLKS. I WANTED 

4352
02:26:07,091 --> 02:26:08,926
TO ASK, JUST TURNING TO SOME OF 

4353
02:26:08,926 --> 02:26:13,931
THE IMPLEMENTATION IN TERMS OF 

4354
02:26:13,931 --> 02:26:14,465
THE THE POSITIONS AND THE 

4355
02:26:14,465 --> 02:26:16,434
FUNDING FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION 

4356
02:26:16,434 --> 02:26:19,203
OF THE, THE RENTAL, I'M JUST 

4357
02:26:19,203 --> 02:26:20,438
GONNA CALL IT JUNK FEES, AS 

4358
02:26:20,438 --> 02:26:22,039
WE'VE BEEN CALLING IT. BUT CAN 

4359
02:26:22,039 --> 02:26:23,207
WE JUST CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE 

4360
02:26:23,207 --> 02:26:26,277
BIT TO THE HOW YOU WORK TO 

4361
02:26:26,277 --> 02:26:28,312
DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE SIZE 

4362
02:26:28,312 --> 02:26:30,181
OF STAFFING TO SUCCESSFULLY 

4363
02:26:30,181 --> 02:26:35,019
IMPLEMENT THAT ORDINANCE 

4364
02:26:35,019 --> 02:26:35,586
-- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I 

4365
02:26:35,586 --> 02:26:37,255
THINK, JEFF OVER HERE COULD 

4366
02:26:37,255 --> 02:26:38,022
ANSWER. 

4367
02:26:38,022 --> 02:26:38,356
-- JEFF, IF. 

4368
02:26:38,356 --> 02:26:39,090
-- I'M HAPPY TO 

4369
02:26:39,090 --> 02:26:39,423
-- [LAUGHTER] 

4370
02:26:39,423 --> 02:26:40,124
-- DO IT. YEAH. IF WE DON'T HAVE

4371
02:26:40,124 --> 02:26:42,226
THE RIGHT. OH, GO AHEAD, CHAIR, 

4372
02:26:42,226 --> 02:26:42,560
I APOLOGIZE. 

4373
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:44,228
-- USUALLY WE ONLY HAVE TWO. WE 

4374
02:26:44,228 --> 02:26:47,765
HAD A SPECIAL EXCEPTION THIS 

4375
02:26:47,765 --> 02:26:49,000
YEAR WITH HSD TO HAVE CHRIS 

4376
02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:50,034
CLASEN JOIN US. JEFF, IF YOU 

4377
02:26:50,034 --> 02:26:51,369
WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US AT THE 

4378
02:26:51,369 --> 02:26:52,737
TABLE, YOU ARE MORE THAN 

4379
02:26:52,737 --> 02:26:53,004
WELCOME. 

4380
02:26:53,004 --> 02:26:53,571
-- AND I COULD I COULD 

4381
02:26:53,571 --> 02:26:53,905
-- [LAUGHTER] 

4382
02:26:53,905 --> 02:26:55,973
-- GIVE IT A SHOT. 

4383
02:26:55,973 --> 02:26:56,808
-- I'M SURE I'M HAPPY TO TAKE 

4384
02:26:56,808 --> 02:26:58,042
IT IN THE ONE NOTE, IF THAT'S 

4385
02:26:58,042 --> 02:26:59,744
EASIER. 

4386
02:26:59,744 --> 02:27:00,478
-- WHATEVER IS. IF JEFF, YOU'RE

4387
02:27:00,478 --> 02:27:02,480
HERE, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, COME

4388
02:27:02,480 --> 02:27:05,750
UP NOW. OTHERWISE, WE'RE MOVING

4389
02:27:05,750 --> 02:27:07,151
ON. NOW IS DECISION TIME. WHAT 

4390
02:27:07,151 --> 02:27:13,624
ARE WE DOING? MOVING. THANK YOU.

4391
02:27:13,624 --> 02:27:18,296
AND COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER, TAKE 

4392
02:27:18,296 --> 02:27:18,563
IT AWAY. 

4393
02:27:18,563 --> 02:27:21,465
-- JEFF SDCI, CODE COMPLIANCE 

4394
02:27:21,465 --> 02:27:26,437
DIRECTOR I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, 

4395
02:27:26,437 --> 02:27:27,838
WE DON'T. WE DON'T KNOW 

4396
02:27:27,838 --> 02:27:29,507
EXACTLY. WE BOTH BASICALLY 

4397
02:27:29,507 --> 02:27:32,076
LOOKED AT PAST EXPERIENCE WITH 

4398
02:27:32,076 --> 02:27:32,643
IMPLEMENTATION OF OTHER NEW 

4399
02:27:32,643 --> 02:27:34,111
REGULATIONS, LIKE WHEN ECONOMIC 

4400
02:27:34,111 --> 02:27:36,380
DISPLACEMENT RELOCATION 

4401
02:27:36,380 --> 02:27:37,615
ASSISTANCE CAME IN AND SAID, 

4402
02:27:37,615 --> 02:27:39,083
WHAT, WHAT, HOW WAS THAT IMPACT 

4403
02:27:39,083 --> 02:27:41,385
ON OUR STAFFING AND OUR WORKLOAD

4404
02:27:41,385 --> 02:27:44,655
AND YOU KNOW, TOOK OUR BEST 

4405
02:27:44,655 --> 02:27:45,256
PROJECTION OF WHAT WE THOUGHT 

4406
02:27:45,256 --> 02:27:48,292
THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. THAT'S 

4407
02:27:48,292 --> 02:27:50,661
REALLY ABOUT ALL THAT COMES TO. 

4408
02:27:50,661 --> 02:27:52,597
-- THANK YOU. AND I'M HAPPY TO 

4409
02:27:52,597 --> 02:27:53,497
DO. I THINK WE'LL TAKE THIS ONE

4410
02:27:53,497 --> 02:27:56,200
OVER TO THE ONE NOTE FOR FOLLOW 

4411
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:57,301
UP. I JUST OBVIOUSLY IS REALLY 

4412
02:27:57,301 --> 02:27:58,703
EXCITED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 

4413
02:27:58,703 --> 02:27:59,337
IMPLEMENT THIS AND WE IMPLEMENT 

4414
02:27:59,337 --> 02:28:01,305
IT WELL AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

4415
02:28:01,305 --> 02:28:02,406
HAVE THE APPROPRIATE STAFFING 

4416
02:28:02,406 --> 02:28:05,042
LEVELS AND TAKE INTO 

4417
02:28:05,042 --> 02:28:05,676
CONSIDERATION ANYTHING THAT WE 

4418
02:28:05,676 --> 02:28:08,379
WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THERE. 

4419
02:28:08,379 --> 02:28:09,413
THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, I

4420
02:28:09,413 --> 02:28:10,982
THINK I HEARD A COMMENT EARLIER.

4421
02:28:10,982 --> 02:28:12,183
THANK YOU. JEFF, SORRY TO HAVE 

4422
02:28:12,183 --> 02:28:13,584
YOU COME UP FOR ONE BRIEF 

4423
02:28:13,584 --> 02:28:15,419
QUESTION, BUT THE THE OTHER 

4424
02:28:15,419 --> 02:28:16,220
COMMENT THAT I THINK I HEARD 

4425
02:28:16,220 --> 02:28:18,823
FROM YOU, DIRECTOR, WAS ABOUT 

4426
02:28:18,823 --> 02:28:20,691
GETTING THE PERMIT COSTS CLOSER 

4427
02:28:20,691 --> 02:28:23,461
TO WHERE THEY WERE IN 2020. OR 

4428
02:28:23,461 --> 02:28:26,264
YOU SORT OF SPOKE TO THIS 

4429
02:28:26,264 --> 02:28:27,798
PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS. CAN YOU ADD

4430
02:28:27,798 --> 02:28:29,433
JUST ANY, ANY CLARITY OR COLOR 

4431
02:28:29,433 --> 02:28:31,269
THERE IN TERMS OF SORT OF OUR 

4432
02:28:31,269 --> 02:28:38,209
OVERALL COSTS? THERE? 

4433
02:28:38,209 --> 02:28:39,243
-- I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE OR 

4434
02:28:39,243 --> 02:28:41,379
LET'S SEE, WHERE WERE WE? I MAY

4435
02:28:41,379 --> 02:28:44,415
HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO THE 

4436
02:28:44,415 --> 02:28:46,584
MECHANICAL AND REFRIGERATION FEE

4437
02:28:46,584 --> 02:28:48,686
ONLY. OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAD CUT 

4438
02:28:48,686 --> 02:28:51,289
THAT SIGNIFICANTLY, ABOUT 50% 

4439
02:28:51,289 --> 02:28:55,393
BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY HAD CHANGED 

4440
02:28:55,393 --> 02:28:57,495
AND INSTALLATION PATTERNS HAD 

4441
02:28:57,495 --> 02:28:58,863
CHANGED. AND WE WERE JUST 

4442
02:28:58,863 --> 02:29:03,834
STARTING TO COLLECT HEAVILY ON 

4443
02:29:03,834 --> 02:29:04,969
THAT, ALMOST OVER COLLECTING. 

4444
02:29:04,969 --> 02:29:07,872
AND SO WE CUT BACK ON THOSE FEES

4445
02:29:07,872 --> 02:29:12,543
SIGNIFICANTLY. AND NOW CURRENTLY

4446
02:29:12,543 --> 02:29:14,712
WE ARE SEEING THOSE COST CENTERS

4447
02:29:14,712 --> 02:29:16,981
DECLINE. SO IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN

4448
02:29:16,981 --> 02:29:19,050
THE COST OF, YOU KNOW, 

4449
02:29:19,050 --> 02:29:20,418
RECOVERING THE COST OF 

4450
02:29:20,418 --> 02:29:21,052
PERFORMING THOSE INSPECTIONS AND

4451
02:29:21,052 --> 02:29:23,587
THOSE REVIEWS, WE JUST NEED TO 

4452
02:29:23,587 --> 02:29:24,555
INCREASE IT SOME MORE TO KEEP 

4453
02:29:24,555 --> 02:29:26,290
KEEP UP WITH IT. BUT WE WERE 

4454
02:29:26,290 --> 02:29:27,491
AFRAID OF OVER COLLECTING, SO WE

4455
02:29:27,491 --> 02:29:29,493
HAD TO REDUCE THE, THE FEES AT 

4456
02:29:29,493 --> 02:29:31,462
THAT TIME. AND THAT WAS JUST FOR

4457
02:29:31,462 --> 02:29:33,731
THOSE TWO COST CENTERS. 

4458
02:29:33,731 --> 02:29:36,867
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

4459
02:29:36,867 --> 02:29:37,101
CHAIR. 

4460
02:29:37,101 --> 02:29:38,502
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

4461
02:29:38,502 --> 02:29:39,637
FOSTER COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. IF 

4462
02:29:39,637 --> 02:29:40,905
OTHERS WANT TO SPEAK, PLEASE 

4463
02:29:40,905 --> 02:29:42,173
RAISE YOUR HAND NOW. THANK YOU. 

4464
02:29:42,173 --> 02:29:44,108
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR, I JUST 

4465
02:29:44,108 --> 02:29:46,010
REALLY QUICK. THANK YOU, MR. 

4466
02:29:46,010 --> 02:29:48,179
STEELE AND MR. MITCHELL, AND FOR

4467
02:29:48,179 --> 02:29:49,246
JOINING THE TABLE, MR. TALENT AS

4468
02:29:49,246 --> 02:29:53,017
WELL. LATE BREAKING ADDITION 

4469
02:29:53,017 --> 02:29:56,587
LOOKING AT THE BRIEFING AND YOU 

4470
02:29:56,587 --> 02:29:59,957
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THIS IS

4471
02:29:59,957 --> 02:30:01,058
THERE'S A BIT OF A IT IS WHAT 

4472
02:30:01,058 --> 02:30:03,627
IT IS SITUATION IN TERMS OF THE 

4473
02:30:03,627 --> 02:30:05,363
STAFFING. AND YOU KNOW, HOW MANY

4474
02:30:05,363 --> 02:30:06,731
THE PERMITS, THE MONEY COMING IN

4475
02:30:06,731 --> 02:30:10,534
AND SO FORTH. IT'S JUST THE 

4476
02:30:10,534 --> 02:30:12,570
SYSTEM. SO I APPRECIATE THE 

4477
02:30:12,570 --> 02:30:13,671
RIGHT SIZING POINTS THAT YOU'RE

4478
02:30:13,671 --> 02:30:15,506
TALKING ABOUT. GIVEN THE 

4479
02:30:15,506 --> 02:30:16,774
CONDITIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR THE

4480
02:30:16,774 --> 02:30:18,642
WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THAT 

4481
02:30:18,642 --> 02:30:21,946
PART. THE OMBUDS SUPPORT PIECE 

4482
02:30:21,946 --> 02:30:24,115
IS SUPER IMPORTANT. I WOULD SAY 

4483
02:30:24,115 --> 02:30:25,750
IT'S NEEDED FOR EVERYBODY, NOT 

4484
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:26,884
JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 

4485
02:30:26,884 --> 02:30:28,185
ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP. AND THIS

4486
02:30:28,185 --> 02:30:30,888
KIND OF GOES TO THE BIGGER 

4487
02:30:30,888 --> 02:30:32,690
PICTURE PIECE IN TERMS OF THE 

4488
02:30:32,690 --> 02:30:33,991
MESSAGES THAT WE'RE SENDING, 

4489
02:30:33,991 --> 02:30:34,925
YOU KNOW, HAVING A STRONG 

4490
02:30:34,925 --> 02:30:36,594
OMBUDS, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF 

4491
02:30:36,594 --> 02:30:38,629
ASSIST PROGRAM TO NAVIGATE, I 

4492
02:30:38,629 --> 02:30:40,398
THINK, YOU KNOW, SETS THE TONE. 

4493
02:30:40,398 --> 02:30:42,032
AND I THINK THE TONE IS REALLY 

4494
02:30:42,032 --> 02:30:43,234
IMPORTANT IN THIS CITY. AND 

4495
02:30:43,234 --> 02:30:45,002
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BEEN WHERE

4496
02:30:45,002 --> 02:30:48,005
IT NEEDS TO BE. BUT I THINK WE 

4497
02:30:48,005 --> 02:30:50,241
COULD DO BETTER. AND BY THE WAY,

4498
02:30:50,241 --> 02:30:52,176
THIS OMBUDS PIECE COULD BE FOR 

4499
02:30:52,176 --> 02:30:53,677
ANY NEW REGULATION IN TERMS OF 

4500
02:30:53,677 --> 02:30:55,179
THE DIFFICULTIES THAT IT MAY OR 

4501
02:30:55,179 --> 02:30:57,748
MAY NOT PRESENT. SO THIS KIND OF

4502
02:30:57,748 --> 02:30:58,749
APPROACH AND BUT I BRING THE 

4503
02:30:58,749 --> 02:31:00,384
TONE PIECE UP BECAUSE I'VE HAD 

4504
02:31:00,384 --> 02:31:02,253
MORE THAN ONE CONVERSATION WITH 

4505
02:31:02,253 --> 02:31:03,587
A DEVELOPER WHO WAS LOOKING TO 

4506
02:31:03,587 --> 02:31:08,893
ADD TO SLIDES FOUR AND FIVE IN 

4507
02:31:08,893 --> 02:31:14,632
TERMS OF APPLICATIONS. AND SO 

4508
02:31:14,632 --> 02:31:15,266
FORTH, THAT THEY WANTED TO GO 

4509
02:31:15,266 --> 02:31:16,133
AHEAD, BUT FUNDERS WEREN'T GOING

4510
02:31:16,133 --> 02:31:17,768
TO INVEST IN SEATTLE BECAUSE, 

4511
02:31:17,768 --> 02:31:19,837
YOU KNOW, THE TONE WAS BAD. THE 

4512
02:31:19,837 --> 02:31:22,273
MESSAGING WAS BAD. AND I THINK 

4513
02:31:22,273 --> 02:31:23,074
WE SHOULD OWN IT. I THINK WE 

4514
02:31:23,074 --> 02:31:24,575
SHOULD OWN IT AS A COUNCIL. I 

4515
02:31:24,575 --> 02:31:28,179
THINK WE SHOULD OWN AS CITY HALL

4516
02:31:28,179 --> 02:31:28,846
OVERALL, BECAUSE I'VE HAD TOO 

4517
02:31:28,846 --> 02:31:29,980
MANY CONVERSATIONS WHERE YOU 

4518
02:31:29,980 --> 02:31:31,515
KNOW, I'M DISTRICT SEVEN, WE 

4519
02:31:31,515 --> 02:31:33,617
HAVE THE 21 BOSTON SAFEWAY 

4520
02:31:33,617 --> 02:31:35,352
PROJECT, 325 APARTMENTS THAT ARE

4521
02:31:35,352 --> 02:31:38,289
THERE NOW. WE COULD HAVE EASILY 

4522
02:31:38,289 --> 02:31:40,124
HAD A STARTUP IN MAGNOLIA AND 

4523
02:31:40,124 --> 02:31:41,759
ONE IN CAPITOL HILL. VERY 

4524
02:31:41,759 --> 02:31:43,060
SIMILAR PROJECTS, BUT THEY'RE 

4525
02:31:43,060 --> 02:31:45,229
DEAD. WHY ARE THEY DEAD? BECAUSE

4526
02:31:45,229 --> 02:31:49,033
THE TONE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE AS

4527
02:31:49,033 --> 02:31:50,901
A CITY GOVERNMENT AND WHAT WE 

4528
02:31:50,901 --> 02:31:52,770
REALLY NEED IS STABILITY. WHAT 

4529
02:31:52,770 --> 02:31:54,738
WE NEED IS REALLY 

4530
02:31:54,738 --> 02:31:57,508
PREDICTABILITY, SAFETY IS REALLY

4531
02:31:57,508 --> 02:32:02,012
IMPORTANT, AND POSITIVITY AND 

4532
02:32:02,012 --> 02:32:02,646
LEADERSHIP. I'M JUST SAYING 

4533
02:32:02,646 --> 02:32:03,314
THIS OUT LOUD. OBVIOUSLY, I'M 

4534
02:32:03,314 --> 02:32:05,349
NOT EVEN GOING TO ASK FOR AN 

4535
02:32:05,349 --> 02:32:07,785
ANSWER BECAUSE DIRECTOR PANUCCI 

4536
02:32:07,785 --> 02:32:08,719
IS REPRESENTING THE BUDGET 

4537
02:32:08,719 --> 02:32:10,054
ASPECTS OF THIS. YOU KNOW, THE 

4538
02:32:10,054 --> 02:32:13,123
ONES AND ZEROS, THE NUTS AND 

4539
02:32:13,123 --> 02:32:14,725
BOLTS. YOU'RE ON THE BACK END. 

4540
02:32:14,725 --> 02:32:16,093
BUT WE AS LEADERS OF THE CITY, 

4541
02:32:16,093 --> 02:32:17,828
ACROSS THE EXECUTIVE AND THE 

4542
02:32:17,828 --> 02:32:19,230
LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES NEED TO DO 

4543
02:32:19,230 --> 02:32:20,698
BETTER BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE

4544
02:32:20,698 --> 02:32:22,233
DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT 

4545
02:32:22,233 --> 02:32:25,136
TRANSLATES TO? LET'S JUST SAY 

4546
02:32:25,136 --> 02:32:26,203
THEY'RE HAVING 325 APARTMENTS 

4547
02:32:26,203 --> 02:32:28,005
EACH, JUST LIKE THE 21 BOSTON 

4548
02:32:28,005 --> 02:32:33,844
QUEEN ANNE PROJECT. THAT'S 650 

4549
02:32:33,844 --> 02:32:35,679
UNITS GONE. GONE. AND THEY COULD

4550
02:32:35,679 --> 02:32:37,581
HAVE EASILY BEEN THERE, BUT 

4551
02:32:37,581 --> 02:32:40,384
THEY'RE NOT THANK YOU. THANK 

4552
02:32:40,384 --> 02:32:42,686
YOU, CHAIR. 

4553
02:32:42,686 --> 02:32:44,955
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

4554
02:32:44,955 --> 02:32:46,090
KETTLE DOES THE. SO FOR 

4555
02:32:46,090 --> 02:32:47,424
EVERYONE, THE LAST TWO GROUPS 

4556
02:32:47,424 --> 02:32:48,092
THAT ARE PRESENTING TODAY, I'M 

4557
02:32:48,092 --> 02:32:49,193
GOING TO FACILITATE. I WILL 

4558
02:32:49,193 --> 02:32:50,427
ALWAYS CALL ON THE COMMITTEE 

4559
02:32:50,427 --> 02:32:52,163
TABLE. YOU DON'T NEED TO 

4560
02:32:52,163 --> 02:32:52,796
INTERRUPT. COMMITTEE TABLE. DO 

4561
02:32:52,796 --> 02:32:54,298
YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. 

4562
02:32:54,298 --> 02:32:59,970
-- OH, OKAY. SURE. I JUST WANTED

4563
02:32:59,970 --> 02:33:01,805
TO SAY THAT I'M THIS OMBUD 

4564
02:33:01,805 --> 02:33:03,908
POSITION IS EXCITING TO ME TOO. 

4565
02:33:03,908 --> 02:33:05,676
I THINK I'VE SEEN A LOT OF 

4566
02:33:05,676 --> 02:33:07,845
SUCCESS FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS 

4567
02:33:07,845 --> 02:33:10,481
PERMITTING AND CULTURAL SPACE 

4568
02:33:10,481 --> 02:33:12,650
PERMITTING NAVIGATOR THAT WE 

4569
02:33:12,650 --> 02:33:15,553
HAVE. I LIVE DOWNTOWN AND I'VE 

4570
02:33:15,553 --> 02:33:16,554
EVER SINCE WE REALLY IMPLEMENTED

4571
02:33:16,554 --> 02:33:18,656
THAT POSITION, I'VE SEEN 

4572
02:33:18,656 --> 02:33:20,024
DOWNTOWN CHANGE A LOT WITH A LOT

4573
02:33:20,024 --> 02:33:22,359
OF ACTIVE USE OF VACANT 

4574
02:33:22,359 --> 02:33:22,993
STOREFRONTS AND EVERYTHING. AND 

4575
02:33:22,993 --> 02:33:24,428
I THINK IT'S WORKED REALLY WELL.

4576
02:33:24,428 --> 02:33:26,263
SO I THINK THIS HOUSING OMBUD 

4577
02:33:26,263 --> 02:33:28,933
HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. 

4578
02:33:28,933 --> 02:33:29,500
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

4579
02:33:29,500 --> 02:33:30,768
KETTLE ANY LAST WORDS? WE'RE 

4580
02:33:30,768 --> 02:33:31,835
GOING TO MOVE ON TO 

4581
02:33:31,835 --> 02:33:35,339
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. THANK YOU. 

4582
02:33:35,339 --> 02:33:36,574
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. AND

4583
02:33:36,574 --> 02:33:38,042
I WANT TO THANK YOU ACTUALLY FOR

4584
02:33:38,042 --> 02:33:39,543
BRINGING UP THAT PERMITTING 

4585
02:33:39,543 --> 02:33:41,245
POSITION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. I

4586
02:33:41,245 --> 02:33:42,947
ACTUALLY HAD A SIT DOWN WITH A 

4587
02:33:42,947 --> 02:33:46,016
NUMBER OF OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS 

4588
02:33:46,016 --> 02:33:46,650
EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND I ASKED 

4589
02:33:46,650 --> 02:33:48,385
THEM, WHAT IS ONE THING THAT THE

4590
02:33:48,385 --> 02:33:49,520
CITY IS DOING WELL? AND PEOPLE 

4591
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:51,155
ACTUALLY LIFTED UP THIS 

4592
02:33:51,155 --> 02:33:51,789
PARTICULAR PERMITTING PROGRAM AS

4593
02:33:51,789 --> 02:33:53,090
ONE THING THAT HAS REALLY 

4594
02:33:53,090 --> 02:33:53,757
DELIVERED MEANINGFUL RESULTS, 

4595
02:33:53,757 --> 02:33:55,526
AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE 

4596
02:33:55,526 --> 02:33:56,794
REPLICATED AND EXPANDED UPON. SO

4597
02:33:56,794 --> 02:33:58,262
I'M GLAD THAT CAME UP 

4598
02:33:58,262 --> 02:33:59,997
ORGANICALLY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE 

4599
02:33:59,997 --> 02:34:01,198
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT, 

4600
02:34:01,198 --> 02:34:02,166
AND I WANT TO THANK THIS 

4601
02:34:02,166 --> 02:34:04,902
OPPORTUNITY TO THANK SDCI FOR 

4602
02:34:04,902 --> 02:34:07,738
WORKING WITH MY OFFICE TO 

4603
02:34:07,738 --> 02:34:08,272
EXPLORE TENANT RELOCATION 

4604
02:34:08,272 --> 02:34:08,906
ASSISTANCE OPTIONS, AND HOW WE 

4605
02:34:08,906 --> 02:34:10,341
CAN ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING 

4606
02:34:10,341 --> 02:34:11,709
THE NEEDS OF OUR RENTER 

4607
02:34:11,709 --> 02:34:12,610
COMMUNITY, WHO MAKE UP THE 

4608
02:34:12,610 --> 02:34:14,478
MAJORITY OF THOSE LIVING IN 

4609
02:34:14,478 --> 02:34:15,312
SEATTLE. AND IN ADDITIONAL. 

4610
02:34:15,312 --> 02:34:17,081
THANK YOU FOR BEING SO 

4611
02:34:17,081 --> 02:34:19,083
RESPONSIVE. WHEN MY OFFICE 

4612
02:34:19,083 --> 02:34:21,051
RECEIVES DIRECT CONSTITUENT 

4613
02:34:21,051 --> 02:34:21,619
PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION 

4614
02:34:21,619 --> 02:34:22,620
QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK. SPECIAL 

4615
02:34:22,620 --> 02:34:25,155
SHOUT OUT TO SDCI LIAISON 

4616
02:34:25,155 --> 02:34:27,658
CHRISTINA FOR BEING INCREDIBLY 

4617
02:34:27,658 --> 02:34:28,792
RESPONSIVE AND HELPFUL, 

4618
02:34:28,792 --> 02:34:30,628
ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE DIVING INTO

4619
02:34:30,628 --> 02:34:31,762
THESE COMPLEX ISSUES. I MAY NOT 

4620
02:34:31,762 --> 02:34:32,663
ALWAYS LOVE THE ANSWER I GET, 

4621
02:34:32,663 --> 02:34:34,932
BUT I APPRECIATE GETTING AN 

4622
02:34:34,932 --> 02:34:37,534
ANSWER. SO THANK YOU AND YOUR 

4623
02:34:37,534 --> 02:34:38,669
TEAM FOR ALL OF THAT WORK. A 

4624
02:34:38,669 --> 02:34:40,004
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR TODAY, 

4625
02:34:40,004 --> 02:34:42,539
AND I THINK A COUPLE OF THE 

4626
02:34:42,539 --> 02:34:43,173
QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN

4627
02:34:43,173 --> 02:34:43,974
ASKED HAVE TOUCHED ON THESE 

4628
02:34:43,974 --> 02:34:46,510
POINTS, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS IN 

4629
02:34:46,510 --> 02:34:48,045
ON THESE POINTS AGAIN, JUST FOR 

4630
02:34:48,045 --> 02:34:51,048
THE PURPOSES OF CLARITY MOVING 

4631
02:34:51,048 --> 02:34:54,184
FORWARD, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE 

4632
02:34:54,184 --> 02:34:54,652
CHALLENGING ECONOMIC 

4633
02:34:54,652 --> 02:34:55,286
CIRCUMSTANCES WE FIND OURSELVES 

4634
02:34:55,286 --> 02:34:57,688
IN. I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN AT 

4635
02:34:57,688 --> 02:34:59,757
LENGTH ABOUT MY CONCERN ABOUT 

4636
02:34:59,757 --> 02:35:01,625
THE DROP OFF IN PERMITS ACROSS 

4637
02:35:01,625 --> 02:35:03,394
THE CITY, AND SO MY MY QUESTION 

4638
02:35:03,394 --> 02:35:05,863
IS, CONSIDERING THE CURRENT 

4639
02:35:05,863 --> 02:35:06,697
ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT CREATING A 

4640
02:35:06,697 --> 02:35:09,366
GREAT BARRIER FOR DEVELOPMENT, 

4641
02:35:09,366 --> 02:35:11,402
HOW CONFIDENT IS SDCI THAT 

4642
02:35:11,402 --> 02:35:13,771
ADDITIONAL STAFFING CUTS AND 

4643
02:35:13,771 --> 02:35:14,838
FREE FEE INCREASES WON'T BE 

4644
02:35:14,838 --> 02:35:19,543
NECESSARY AGAIN IN THE COMING 

4645
02:35:19,543 --> 02:35:19,777
YEARS? 

4646
02:35:19,777 --> 02:35:23,881
-- TO 

4647
02:35:23,881 --> 02:35:26,050
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 

4648
02:35:26,050 --> 02:35:26,684
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. I BELIEVE 

4649
02:35:26,684 --> 02:35:29,520
THAT WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC

4650
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:31,655
THAT WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE

4651
02:35:31,655 --> 02:35:33,691
WE DON'T HAVE TO SHED ANY MORE 

4652
02:35:33,691 --> 02:35:36,760
POSITIONS. WE ARE ARE HOLDING ON

4653
02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:38,562
TO THE FUND BALANCE, AND IT'S 

4654
02:35:38,562 --> 02:35:43,667
WITH ITS CURRENT REQUESTS FOR 

4655
02:35:43,667 --> 02:35:45,736
THE 7% FEE INCREASE, IT WILL 

4656
02:35:45,736 --> 02:35:48,238
ALLOW THE STAFFING TO BE 

4657
02:35:48,238 --> 02:35:49,773
MAINTAINED THROUGH THE NEXT TWO 

4658
02:35:49,773 --> 02:35:54,178
YEARS. AT THAT LEVEL. NOW, ALL 

4659
02:35:54,178 --> 02:35:58,082
BETS ARE OFF IF THERE'S NOT SOME

4660
02:35:58,082 --> 02:36:00,584
SPURRING OF THE ECONOMIC ENGINE 

4661
02:36:00,584 --> 02:36:03,587
THAT DRIVES THE CONSTRUCTION 

4662
02:36:03,587 --> 02:36:05,355
INDUSTRY. SO WE'RE BUT WE'RE 

4663
02:36:05,355 --> 02:36:06,056
FAIRLY CONFIDENT WE'RE WE'RE IN

4664
02:36:06,056 --> 02:36:07,925
A GOOD POSITION. THE WAY WE 

4665
02:36:07,925 --> 02:36:10,494
STRUCTURED IT 

4666
02:36:10,494 --> 02:36:12,229
-- THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING TO 

4667
02:36:12,229 --> 02:36:15,399
THAT POINT AND UNDERSTANDING. WE

4668
02:36:15,399 --> 02:36:15,899
ARE LOOKING AT STAFFING 

4669
02:36:15,899 --> 02:36:16,433
REDUCTIONS. I GUESS I'M 

4670
02:36:16,433 --> 02:36:18,402
WONDERING IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO 

4671
02:36:18,402 --> 02:36:20,537
HOW IT'S POSSIBLE THAT STAFFING

4672
02:36:20,537 --> 02:36:22,906
REDUCTIONS AT SDCI WON'T IMPACT

4673
02:36:22,906 --> 02:36:24,608
PERMITTING TIMELINES FOR CURRENT

4674
02:36:24,608 --> 02:36:29,113
PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY 

4675
02:36:29,113 --> 02:36:31,949
-- OUR CURRENT STAFFING IS IN 

4676
02:36:31,949 --> 02:36:34,885
LINE WITH THE DEMAND AND THE 

4677
02:36:34,885 --> 02:36:37,955
PROCESSES THAT WERE WERE 

4678
02:36:37,955 --> 02:36:40,357
DECREASING FOR SOME CAPACITIES. 

4679
02:36:40,357 --> 02:36:42,659
WE'RE ABLE TO INCREASE ANOTHER 

4680
02:36:42,659 --> 02:36:45,462
CAPACITY. SO WE'RE WE'RE 

4681
02:36:45,462 --> 02:36:52,569
LITERALLY DOING MORE OVERALL 

4682
02:36:52,569 --> 02:36:53,103
GETTING CORRECTION CYCLES 

4683
02:36:53,103 --> 02:36:56,974
REDUCED. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE 

4684
02:36:56,974 --> 02:36:58,609
COMPONENTS OF THE THE EXECUTIVE 

4685
02:36:58,609 --> 02:36:59,042
ORDER FROM THE LAST 

4686
02:36:59,042 --> 02:37:00,911
ADMINISTRATION. WITH THE PACT, 

4687
02:37:00,911 --> 02:37:02,746
WE'VE TAKEN A NUMBER OF THOSE 

4688
02:37:02,746 --> 02:37:04,014
INSTANCES AND. AND THEY BECAME 

4689
02:37:04,014 --> 02:37:08,352
OUR BUSINESS MODEL. AND WE'RE 

4690
02:37:08,352 --> 02:37:11,255
WE'RE WE'RE GENERATING PROJECTS

4691
02:37:11,255 --> 02:37:12,756
WITH FEWER HANDS ON THE PROJECT.

4692
02:37:12,756 --> 02:37:15,325
SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE

4693
02:37:15,325 --> 02:37:17,728
OUR CAPACITY 

4694
02:37:17,728 --> 02:37:21,365
-- I, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT 

4695
02:37:21,365 --> 02:37:24,234
WE HAVE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 

4696
02:37:24,234 --> 02:37:27,171
UNFUNDED VACANT POSITIONS FROM 

4697
02:37:27,171 --> 02:37:29,706
2025 AND 2026 THAT WE CAN 

4698
02:37:29,706 --> 02:37:31,408
UTILIZE ALONG WITH OUR 

4699
02:37:31,408 --> 02:37:32,843
CONTINGENT BUDGET AUTHORITY TO 

4700
02:37:32,843 --> 02:37:34,978
STAFF UP VERY QUICKLY. AND 

4701
02:37:34,978 --> 02:37:38,582
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR SOUND

4702
02:37:38,582 --> 02:37:41,451
TRANSIT THREE AND HARBORVIEW 

4703
02:37:41,451 --> 02:37:41,752
-- EXCUSE. 

4704
02:37:41,752 --> 02:37:42,820
-- ME. 

4705
02:37:42,820 --> 02:37:44,021
-- I THINK ON THIS QUESTION, 

4706
02:37:44,021 --> 02:37:45,789
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT

4707
02:37:45,789 --> 02:37:47,991
MOST OF THE POSITIONS THAT ARE 

4708
02:37:47,991 --> 02:37:49,459
BEING ELIMINATED ARE VACANT AND 

4709
02:37:49,459 --> 02:37:51,061
HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR SOME TIME, 

4710
02:37:51,061 --> 02:37:53,330
BECAUSE SDCI HAS BEEN VERY 

4711
02:37:53,330 --> 02:37:54,832
CAREFULLY MONITORING THEIR LIKE 

4712
02:37:54,832 --> 02:37:56,200
SPEND DOWN OF THEIR FUND 

4713
02:37:56,200 --> 02:37:58,969
BALANCE. SO I THINK THAT'S 

4714
02:37:58,969 --> 02:37:59,603
ANOTHER INDICATOR AND NOT, YOU 

4715
02:37:59,603 --> 02:38:01,471
KNOW, SOME OF THESE POSITIONS 

4716
02:38:01,471 --> 02:38:02,606
ARE LAND USE PLANNER POSITIONS. 

4717
02:38:02,606 --> 02:38:04,308
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO 

4718
02:38:04,308 --> 02:38:05,075
DESIGN REVIEW AND THAT THAT SORT

4719
02:38:05,075 --> 02:38:06,477
OF THING OR ADMINISTRATIVE 

4720
02:38:06,477 --> 02:38:08,011
POSITION. SO I THINK IT'S JUST 

4721
02:38:08,011 --> 02:38:11,748
LIKE FLAGGING THAT MOST OF THIS 

4722
02:38:11,748 --> 02:38:12,282
IS ACTUALLY THEIR CURRENT 

4723
02:38:12,282 --> 02:38:15,786
STAFFING LEVELS. 

4724
02:38:15,786 --> 02:38:18,455
-- THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL TO

4725
02:38:18,455 --> 02:38:19,723
JUST ILLUSTRATE, AGAIN, I HAVE 

4726
02:38:19,723 --> 02:38:21,124
AN OUTSTANDING CONCERN. IF WE 

4727
02:38:21,124 --> 02:38:22,693
WERE LOOKING AT JUST STAFFING 

4728
02:38:22,693 --> 02:38:24,795
REDUCTIONS AT ANY LOSS IN 

4729
02:38:24,795 --> 02:38:25,963
EXPERTISE, JUST THE FLUCTUATIONS

4730
02:38:25,963 --> 02:38:27,331
AND UNCERTAINTY, OF COURSE, 

4731
02:38:27,331 --> 02:38:28,065
FACING DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY 

4732
02:38:28,065 --> 02:38:28,765
MAKE FOR A CHALLENGE, OF COURSE,

4733
02:38:28,765 --> 02:38:31,268
FOR PLANNING FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

4734
02:38:31,268 --> 02:38:32,903
SO RECOGNIZING THOSE POINTS, I 

4735
02:38:32,903 --> 02:38:35,172
APPRECIATE THAT RESPONSE. AND I 

4736
02:38:35,172 --> 02:38:37,674
SUPPOSE I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS 

4737
02:38:37,674 --> 02:38:39,243
QUESTION. I THINK IT'S BEEN 

4738
02:38:39,243 --> 02:38:40,644
SPOKEN TO ALREADY, BUT I'LL JUST

4739
02:38:40,644 --> 02:38:42,145
ASK IT AGAIN, JUST SO I'M 

4740
02:38:42,145 --> 02:38:43,780
CRYSTAL CLEAR. CAN YOU SPEAK TO 

4741
02:38:43,780 --> 02:38:45,682
YOUR CORE STAFFING RESERVES AND 

4742
02:38:45,682 --> 02:38:48,685
WHAT RISK WE'RE IN WITH THE 

4743
02:38:48,685 --> 02:38:52,189
FUND SET TO BE DEPLETED? 

4744
02:38:52,189 --> 02:38:57,060
-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK, AYE. MAY

4745
02:38:57,060 --> 02:38:58,195
I ASK THIS QUESTION IN A BUNCH 

4746
02:38:58,195 --> 02:38:59,730
OF DIFFERENT WAYS? IN JUST A 

4747
02:38:59,730 --> 02:38:59,963
SECOND? 

4748
02:38:59,963 --> 02:39:01,131
-- I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. 

4749
02:39:01,131 --> 02:39:02,933
-- FANTASTIC. SORRY, 

4750
02:39:02,933 --> 02:39:05,636
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK JUST STOLE 

4751
02:39:05,636 --> 02:39:06,837
MY ONLY QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO

4752
02:39:06,837 --> 02:39:07,104
KEEP IT. 

4753
02:39:07,104 --> 02:39:08,205
-- SAVE SOME FOR 

4754
02:39:08,205 --> 02:39:08,539
-- [LAUGHTER] 

4755
02:39:08,539 --> 02:39:09,473
-- THE CHAIR. THANK YOU CHAIR. 

4756
02:39:09,473 --> 02:39:11,008
THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS, 

4757
02:39:11,008 --> 02:39:12,542
ACTUALLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH 

4758
02:39:12,542 --> 02:39:14,344
AGAIN TO SDCI FOR THE WORK YOU 

4759
02:39:14,344 --> 02:39:15,913
DO. LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUED

4760
02:39:15,913 --> 02:39:16,680
PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU CHAIR. 

4761
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:18,382
-- THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

4762
02:39:18,382 --> 02:39:18,949
PARTNERSHIP. COUNCILMEMBER 

4763
02:39:18,949 --> 02:39:23,320
RINCK. IF WE CAN TURN TO PAGE 

4764
02:39:23,320 --> 02:39:28,158
694 IN THE BUDGET BOOK. SO THIS 

4765
02:39:28,158 --> 02:39:29,459
IS COMING TO KIND OF WHAT 

4766
02:39:29,459 --> 02:39:30,093
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER WAS TALKING

4767
02:39:30,093 --> 02:39:32,362
ABOUT, GENERAL FUND, ET CETERA. 

4768
02:39:32,362 --> 02:39:32,829
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE 

4769
02:39:32,829 --> 02:39:35,332
CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS 

4770
02:39:35,332 --> 02:39:36,733
FUND. SO COLLEAGUES, THIS IS 

4771
02:39:36,733 --> 02:39:38,835
WHAT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK WAS 

4772
02:39:38,835 --> 02:39:40,437
JUST. THE CORE STAFFING IS ONE 

4773
02:39:40,437 --> 02:39:44,708
LINE WITHIN THIS ENTIRE FUND. IF

4774
02:39:44,708 --> 02:39:46,410
WE COULD WALK THROUGH THIS AND 

4775
02:39:46,410 --> 02:39:48,211
YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND, A 

4776
02:39:48,211 --> 02:39:50,314
LOT OF IT IS CORRELATED TO YOUR 

4777
02:39:50,314 --> 02:39:55,152
POWERPOINT JUST NOW OF BOILERS 

4778
02:39:55,152 --> 02:39:55,786
BUILDING DEVELOPMENT, ELECTRICAL

4779
02:39:55,786 --> 02:39:58,622
GRANT REVENUES, INTEREST, JUST 

4780
02:39:58,622 --> 02:39:59,890
IF YOU COULD GIVE ME JUST A TEN 

4781
02:39:59,890 --> 02:40:01,858
SECOND, WE'RE GOING TO WALK 

4782
02:40:01,858 --> 02:40:04,928
THROUGH EACH OF THESE, STARTING 

4783
02:40:04,928 --> 02:40:06,797
WITH CONTINGENT BUDGET AUTHORITY

4784
02:40:06,797 --> 02:40:08,832
OFFSET. CAN YOU HELP US 

4785
02:40:08,832 --> 02:40:12,636
UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE AND WHAT 

4786
02:40:12,636 --> 02:40:12,936
THIS DOES? 

4787
02:40:12,936 --> 02:40:14,271
-- SURE. SO THE TOP IS THE 

4788
02:40:14,271 --> 02:40:17,040
SOURCES OF FUNDS INCLUDES THE 

4789
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:17,608
CONTINGENT BUDGET AUTHORITY 

4790
02:40:17,608 --> 02:40:18,542
OFFSET, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST 

4791
02:40:18,542 --> 02:40:21,378
AN OFFSET FOR THE BUDGETED 

4792
02:40:21,378 --> 02:40:22,312
CONTINGENT BUDGET AUTHORITY. 

4793
02:40:22,312 --> 02:40:24,514
THAT'S UNDER THE EXPENDITURES. 

4794
02:40:24,514 --> 02:40:25,515
SO IT'S NOT REALLY A REVENUE 

4795
02:40:25,515 --> 02:40:28,585
LINE, BUT IT'S A BUDGET LINE. 

4796
02:40:28,585 --> 02:40:29,953
AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT 

4797
02:40:29,953 --> 02:40:31,455
OFFSET, WE WOULD NEED TO 

4798
02:40:31,455 --> 02:40:32,789
INCREASE OUR FEES DRAMATICALLY 

4799
02:40:32,789 --> 02:40:34,925
BECAUSE WE'D HAVE $8 MILLION 

4800
02:40:34,925 --> 02:40:35,492
MORE IN EXPENDITURE THAT WE 

4801
02:40:35,492 --> 02:40:37,694
LIKELY WON'T SPEND CONTINGENT 

4802
02:40:37,694 --> 02:40:38,829
BUDGET AUTHORITY WE ONLY ACCESS 

4803
02:40:38,829 --> 02:40:41,164
ONCE EVERY I DON'T KNOW, BETWEEN

4804
02:40:41,164 --> 02:40:42,332
5 AND 10 YEARS. IT DOESN'T 

4805
02:40:42,332 --> 02:40:43,433
HAPPEN A LOT, BUT WE NEED IT FOR

4806
02:40:43,433 --> 02:40:46,003
WHEN IT WHEN WE DO ACCESS IT, 

4807
02:40:46,003 --> 02:40:47,070
CAN WE. 

4808
02:40:47,070 --> 02:40:48,105
-- PAUSE RIGHT THERE? DIRECTOR 

4809
02:40:48,105 --> 02:40:49,506
PANUCCI, CAN YOU HELP US A 

4810
02:40:49,506 --> 02:40:49,806
LITTLE BIT? 

4811
02:40:49,806 --> 02:40:51,241
-- YEAH. 

4812
02:40:51,241 --> 02:40:51,875
-- I'LL JUST MAYBE TRANSLATE 

4813
02:40:51,875 --> 02:40:54,478
THAT A LITTLE BIT IN, IN MAYBE 

4814
02:40:54,478 --> 02:40:55,779
MAYBE PLAINER LANGUAGE, BUT I'M

4815
02:40:55,779 --> 02:40:56,947
NOT SURE ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT 

4816
02:40:56,947 --> 02:40:58,949
CONTINGENT BUDGET BUDGET 

4817
02:40:58,949 --> 02:41:01,618
AUTHORITY DOES IS IF PERMIT 

4818
02:41:01,618 --> 02:41:03,453
VOLUMES INCREASE OR PERMIT 

4819
02:41:03,453 --> 02:41:04,855
VALUES INCREASE, WE ASSUME AN 

4820
02:41:04,855 --> 02:41:06,690
INCREASE IN REVENUE. AND AND 

4821
02:41:06,690 --> 02:41:08,992
THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO QUICKLY 

4822
02:41:08,992 --> 02:41:10,460
FILL VACANT POSITIONS FOR THEM 

4823
02:41:10,460 --> 02:41:12,029
TO STAFF BACK UP. SO YOU SEE A 

4824
02:41:12,029 --> 02:41:15,232
CONTINGENT REVENUE ASSUMPTION 

4825
02:41:15,232 --> 02:41:17,200
AND CONTINGENT EXPENDITURE THAT 

4826
02:41:17,200 --> 02:41:19,102
BALANCE EACH OTHER OUT. IS THAT 

4827
02:41:19,102 --> 02:41:19,369
HELPFUL? 

4828
02:41:19,369 --> 02:41:21,071
-- SO THIS IS THE EMERGENCY 

4829
02:41:21,071 --> 02:41:23,774
RELEASE VALVE THAT WHEN IF 

4830
02:41:23,774 --> 02:41:26,143
PERMITS COME IN, YOU TAKE THAT 

4831
02:41:26,143 --> 02:41:27,477
FEE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME 

4832
02:41:27,477 --> 02:41:29,046
BACK TO BUDGET IN A YEAR FROM 

4833
02:41:29,046 --> 02:41:31,548
NOW, YOU CAN START HIRING UP 

4834
02:41:31,548 --> 02:41:32,449
IMMEDIATELY. IS THAT CORRECT? 

4835
02:41:32,449 --> 02:41:34,284
-- THAT THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S

4836
02:41:34,284 --> 02:41:35,519
THE EMERGENCY RELEASE VALVE THAT

4837
02:41:35,519 --> 02:41:37,120
WE ALL HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PULL 

4838
02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:38,955
SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 

4839
02:41:38,955 --> 02:41:40,957
-- AND THEN JUST GENERALLY THE 

4840
02:41:40,957 --> 02:41:44,361
NEXT SET, THE BOILER BUILDING, 

4841
02:41:44,361 --> 02:41:48,231
ELECTRICAL ELEVATOR, LAND USE, 

4842
02:41:48,231 --> 02:41:50,233
NOISE, REFRIGERATION AND 

4843
02:41:50,233 --> 02:41:51,868
FURNACE, THESE ARE ALL BASED ON 

4844
02:41:51,868 --> 02:41:53,937
THOSE TYPES OF PERMITS 

4845
02:41:53,937 --> 02:41:55,105
EXPLICITLY. IS THAT CORRECT? 

4846
02:41:55,105 --> 02:41:59,376
-- IT IS, YEAH. WE CALL THEM 

4847
02:41:59,376 --> 02:42:02,512
COST CENTERS BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE

4848
02:42:02,512 --> 02:42:04,014
CAN'T USE ELECTRICAL FEES TO 

4849
02:42:04,014 --> 02:42:06,083
PAY FOR THE WORK THAT THE 

4850
02:42:06,083 --> 02:42:06,783
BUILDING PERMIT STAFF DO. THEY 

4851
02:42:06,783 --> 02:42:10,754
HAVE TO BE USED FOR ELECTRICAL 

4852
02:42:10,754 --> 02:42:14,291
INSPECTORS. SO WE KEEP A WE KEEP

4853
02:42:14,291 --> 02:42:19,329
TRACK OF THAT. AND SO WITH 

4854
02:42:19,329 --> 02:42:19,896
BUILDING DEVELOPMENT IS OUR 

4855
02:42:19,896 --> 02:42:20,897
LARGEST COST CENTER, OUR 

4856
02:42:20,897 --> 02:42:23,233
LARGEST. IT FUNDS ABOUT 55 TO 

4857
02:42:23,233 --> 02:42:25,902
60% OF OUR DEPARTMENT. LAND USE 

4858
02:42:25,902 --> 02:42:28,138
IS A VERY. IT'S NOT AS LARGE, 

4859
02:42:28,138 --> 02:42:32,309
BUT IT'S VERY VOLATILE. AND SO 

4860
02:42:32,309 --> 02:42:33,977
WE REALLY MONITOR THOSE TO THE 

4861
02:42:33,977 --> 02:42:36,813
CLOSEST BECAUSE THEY ARE 

4862
02:42:36,813 --> 02:42:37,447
ECONOMICALLY VOLATILE BASED ON 

4863
02:42:37,447 --> 02:42:38,248
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE 

4864
02:42:38,248 --> 02:42:42,219
DEVELOPMENT CYCLE, MORE SO THAN 

4865
02:42:42,219 --> 02:42:46,123
ELECTRICAL BOILER ELEVATOR 

4866
02:42:46,123 --> 02:42:46,490
REFRIGERATION. 

4867
02:42:46,490 --> 02:42:49,559
-- BUILDING A BUILDING IS A 

4868
02:42:49,559 --> 02:42:51,728
BIGGER THING THAN UPGRADING TO 

4869
02:42:51,728 --> 02:42:53,730
SOLAR. GETTING A BATTERY PACK OR

4870
02:42:53,730 --> 02:42:55,332
ADDING A NEW PANEL BECAUSE YOUR 

4871
02:42:55,332 --> 02:42:57,567
DRYER IS NOW MORE POWERFUL THAN 

4872
02:42:57,567 --> 02:42:58,535
1950s. IS THAT GENERALLY WHAT 

4873
02:42:58,535 --> 02:43:01,872
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. AND 

4874
02:43:01,872 --> 02:43:03,840
THEN THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH

4875
02:43:03,840 --> 02:43:05,675
THIS WITH ME. AND SO EACH OF 

4876
02:43:05,675 --> 02:43:08,645
THESE LINES LISTED ARE 

4877
02:43:08,645 --> 02:43:09,412
ESSENTIALLY THE REVENUE, THE 

4878
02:43:09,412 --> 02:43:11,214
COST CENTER, AS YOU CALL THEM. 

4879
02:43:11,214 --> 02:43:12,749
WE GET THE MONEY IN FOR THE 

4880
02:43:12,749 --> 02:43:15,552
PERMIT BASED ON THIS MONEY WE 

4881
02:43:15,552 --> 02:43:18,255
CAN HIRE AND PAY OUR PERMIT. 

4882
02:43:18,255 --> 02:43:21,625
REVIEWERS. AND THEN A NEW ITEM, 

4883
02:43:21,625 --> 02:43:24,227
A NEW COUPLE LINE ITEMS HERE ARE

4884
02:43:24,227 --> 02:43:25,362
FEE CHANGES BASED ON ALL OF 

4885
02:43:25,362 --> 02:43:26,897
THESE, WITH THE LAST ONE BEING 

4886
02:43:26,897 --> 02:43:30,300
THE RENTAL REGULATORY FEE IS AM 

4887
02:43:30,300 --> 02:43:31,668
I CORRECT IN YOUR POWERPOINT? 

4888
02:43:31,668 --> 02:43:32,903
THIS IS WHEN YOU WERE TALKING 

4889
02:43:32,903 --> 02:43:35,105
ABOUT THE JUNK FEES ORDINANCE 

4890
02:43:35,105 --> 02:43:37,274
AND ENFORCEMENT THERE. IS THAT 

4891
02:43:37,274 --> 02:43:38,341
CORRECT? YEAH. FANTASTIC. SO NOW

4892
02:43:38,341 --> 02:43:43,146
WE COME TO EXPENDITURES WHERE 

4893
02:43:43,146 --> 02:43:44,548
YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ARE SPENDING 

4894
02:43:44,548 --> 02:43:47,250
OUR MONEY, AND THEN DOWN AT THE 

4895
02:43:47,250 --> 02:43:49,786
BOTTOM IS WHERE WE HAVE CORE 

4896
02:43:49,786 --> 02:43:51,054
STAFFING AND A PLANNING RESERVE.

4897
02:43:51,054 --> 02:43:51,922
AND THIS IS WHERE I'D LIKE TO 

4898
02:43:51,922 --> 02:43:53,423
GET IN WITH YOU BECAUSE I'VE 

4899
02:43:53,423 --> 02:43:58,461
SEEN IN PAST YEARS, WE HAVE ALSO

4900
02:43:58,461 --> 02:43:59,596
HAD IN 2026, JUST LAST YEAR, WE 

4901
02:43:59,596 --> 02:44:01,965
HAD A PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS IN 

4902
02:44:01,965 --> 02:44:03,600
TECHNOLOGY. WE HAD TENANT 

4903
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:05,569
IMPROVEMENTS AND AN OPERATING 

4904
02:44:05,569 --> 02:44:07,804
RESERVE AS WELL. HOW HAVE THOSE 

4905
02:44:07,804 --> 02:44:10,106
THREE RESERVES CHANGED? 

4906
02:44:10,106 --> 02:44:12,509
-- YEAH. SO THIS FINANCIAL PLAN,

4907
02:44:12,509 --> 02:44:14,344
IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE BEEN 

4908
02:44:14,344 --> 02:44:14,978
DRAWING DOWN OUR RESERVES OVER 

4909
02:44:14,978 --> 02:44:16,813
THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AS PERMIT

4910
02:44:16,813 --> 02:44:20,417
REVENUES HAVE DECLINED. THOSE 

4911
02:44:20,417 --> 02:44:21,017
RESERVES WERE ESTABLISHED TO 

4912
02:44:21,017 --> 02:44:22,552
HELP US MAINTAIN STAFFING AND 

4913
02:44:22,552 --> 02:44:25,422
SERVICE LEVELS THROUGH DOWNTURNS

4914
02:44:25,422 --> 02:44:27,724
AND THE DEVELOPMENT CYCLE. AND 

4915
02:44:27,724 --> 02:44:29,659
WE HAD SET THOSE ACCORDING TO 

4916
02:44:29,659 --> 02:44:33,430
WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN 2009 AND

4917
02:44:33,430 --> 02:44:34,097
TEN. THAT'S AT THAT LEVEL THAT 

4918
02:44:34,097 --> 02:44:35,899
COULD GET US THROUGH ANOTHER 

4919
02:44:35,899 --> 02:44:38,168
GREAT RECESSION TYPE OF 

4920
02:44:38,168 --> 02:44:39,135
DOWNTURN. BUT THE DOWNTURN WE'RE

4921
02:44:39,135 --> 02:44:42,005
IN NOW IS KIND OF STRANGE. IT'S

4922
02:44:42,005 --> 02:44:42,906
LASTING A LOT LONGER. IT'S NOT 

4923
02:44:42,906 --> 02:44:48,178
REALLY SHARP. SO THE PLAN, IT 

4924
02:44:48,178 --> 02:44:49,746
REALLY REFLECTS THE CONTINUED 

4925
02:44:49,746 --> 02:44:52,249
DRAWDOWN AS WELL AS THE ACTIONS 

4926
02:44:52,249 --> 02:44:53,650
WE'RE TAKING THROUGH THE 2027 

4927
02:44:53,650 --> 02:44:55,752
BUDGET AND FEE LEGISLATION TO 

4928
02:44:55,752 --> 02:44:59,089
HOPEFULLY STABILIZE THE FUND 

4929
02:44:59,089 --> 02:44:59,456
GOING FORWARD. 

4930
02:44:59,456 --> 02:45:01,358
-- AND THIS KIND OF GETS TO WHAT

4931
02:45:01,358 --> 02:45:02,893
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE WAS JUST 

4932
02:45:02,893 --> 02:45:03,593
TALKING ABOUT A SECOND AGO, AS 

4933
02:45:03,593 --> 02:45:05,528
WELL AS WHAT WE INITIALLY 

4934
02:45:05,528 --> 02:45:06,830
THOUGHT THE PANDEMIC WAS GOING 

4935
02:45:06,830 --> 02:45:08,098
TO TAKE TWO WEEKS AND WE'D BE 

4936
02:45:08,098 --> 02:45:09,899
RIGHT BACK. AND THEN IT WAS TWO 

4937
02:45:09,899 --> 02:45:13,236
YEARS, AND THEN SIX YEARS LATER,

4938
02:45:13,236 --> 02:45:14,671
IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE FINALLY OUT

4939
02:45:14,671 --> 02:45:16,973
OF IT. BUT THE ECONOMIC THE 

4940
02:45:16,973 --> 02:45:18,608
DOWNSTREAM ECONOMIC IMPACTS ARE 

4941
02:45:18,608 --> 02:45:21,111
STILL LASTING WITH US, AS SEEN 

4942
02:45:21,111 --> 02:45:22,946
IN THIS BUDGET, ABOUT HOW WE'RE

4943
02:45:22,946 --> 02:45:24,881
USING THE JUMP START FUNDS 

4944
02:45:24,881 --> 02:45:27,183
ACROSS MANY MORE DIFFERENT 

4945
02:45:27,183 --> 02:45:28,518
DISCIPLINES IN OUR GOVERNMENT, 

4946
02:45:28,518 --> 02:45:29,486
BECAUSE IT'S BETTER THAN CUTTING

4947
02:45:29,486 --> 02:45:31,254
THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE THE CASH 

4948
02:45:31,254 --> 02:45:33,456
TODAY. WE'RE STILL MAKING 

4949
02:45:33,456 --> 02:45:34,190
NEARLY A COUNTING SOCIAL 

4950
02:45:34,190 --> 02:45:35,558
HOUSING. WE ARE MAKING A 

4951
02:45:35,558 --> 02:45:37,794
HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN HOUSING 

4952
02:45:37,794 --> 02:45:39,329
THIS YEAR. BUT I WANT TO GET 

4953
02:45:39,329 --> 02:45:42,132
INTO THIS CORE STAFFING FUND 

4954
02:45:42,132 --> 02:45:43,667
BECAUSE BEFORE WE HAVE TO USE 

4955
02:45:43,667 --> 02:45:44,167
YOUR CONTINGENT BUDGET 

4956
02:45:44,167 --> 02:45:47,704
AUTHORITY, MEANING WE DON'T HAVE

4957
02:45:47,704 --> 02:45:50,640
STAFF. AND SO WE HIRE QUICKLY 

4958
02:45:50,640 --> 02:45:53,209
YOUR CORE STAFFING FUND ALLOWS 

4959
02:45:53,209 --> 02:45:57,047
US TO CREATE A RESERVE. IS THAT 

4960
02:45:57,047 --> 02:45:57,414
ESSENTIALLY IT. 

4961
02:45:57,414 --> 02:45:58,515
-- TO RETAIN STAFF THROUGH A 

4962
02:45:58,515 --> 02:45:59,749
DOWNTURN? 

4963
02:45:59,749 --> 02:46:00,984
-- SO WE ARE. SO A CORE STAFFING

4964
02:46:00,984 --> 02:46:03,753
MAY BE SAID IN ANOTHER WAY IS 

4965
02:46:03,753 --> 02:46:05,622
YOU HAVE PERMIT FEES THAT ARE 

4966
02:46:05,622 --> 02:46:09,926
COMING IN AT A LOWER RATE THAN 

4967
02:46:09,926 --> 02:46:12,429
YOUR ENTIRE EMPLOYEE HEADCOUNT. 

4968
02:46:12,429 --> 02:46:13,930
AND SO OUR FEES ARE NOT COVERING

4969
02:46:13,930 --> 02:46:16,199
ALL OF OUR SALARIES. AND SO WE 

4970
02:46:16,199 --> 02:46:19,002
HAVE THIS CORE STAFFING FUND TO 

4971
02:46:19,002 --> 02:46:20,637
BUOY US THROUGH THAT STORM. IS 

4972
02:46:20,637 --> 02:46:24,174
THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. GENERALLY, 

4973
02:46:24,174 --> 02:46:26,409
IT. AND IN YOUR PROJECTIONS AND 

4974
02:46:26,409 --> 02:46:27,210
DIRECTOR PANUCCI, AM I CORRECT 

4975
02:46:27,210 --> 02:46:29,346
THAT THE FORECAST OFFICE 

4976
02:46:29,346 --> 02:46:31,548
FORECASTS THESE NUMBERS, OR HOW 

4977
02:46:31,548 --> 02:46:33,850
ARE THESE NUMBERS FORECASTED? 

4978
02:46:33,850 --> 02:46:35,685
SORRY, THAT'S A NEW QUESTION 

4979
02:46:35,685 --> 02:46:36,686
AND WE CAN YOU CAN GET BACK TO 

4980
02:46:36,686 --> 02:46:40,724
ME IF YOU NEED TO. I WASN'T I 

4981
02:46:40,724 --> 02:46:42,692
DID NOT I USUALLY SHARE MY 

4982
02:46:42,692 --> 02:46:43,893
QUESTIONS, BUT I DIDN'T SHARE 

4983
02:46:43,893 --> 02:46:45,028
THAT ONE. SORRY. 

4984
02:46:45,028 --> 02:46:46,796
-- I KNOW THAT THERE ARE 

4985
02:46:46,796 --> 02:46:49,366
ECONOMIST WORKS WITH THE ERF 

4986
02:46:49,366 --> 02:46:51,134
TOGETHER IN ORDER TO COME UP 

4987
02:46:51,134 --> 02:46:53,636
WITH THEIR PROJECTIONS, AND THEY

4988
02:46:53,636 --> 02:46:56,539
KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE 

4989
02:46:56,539 --> 02:47:00,243
THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE SEE AND 

4990
02:47:00,243 --> 02:47:02,779
WE ARE F SEES THEY THEY WORK 

4991
02:47:02,779 --> 02:47:03,880
TOGETHER JUST TO BOTH ON, YOU 

4992
02:47:03,880 --> 02:47:06,316
KNOW, WE ARE F WORKS ON A LOT OF

4993
02:47:06,316 --> 02:47:09,152
DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE WORK TO

4994
02:47:09,152 --> 02:47:10,253
HELP INFORM GENERAL FUND AS 

4995
02:47:10,253 --> 02:47:10,520
WELL. SO. 

4996
02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:13,022
-- DIRECTOR 

4997
02:47:13,022 --> 02:47:14,691
-- YEAH, I, I WILL NOT FULLY 

4998
02:47:14,691 --> 02:47:16,493
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I BELIEVE 

4999
02:47:16,493 --> 02:47:17,627
THE DEPARTMENT FORECASTS THEIR 

5000
02:47:17,627 --> 02:47:19,963
PERMIT FEE REVENUES, BUT IT IS A

5001
02:47:19,963 --> 02:47:23,967
IT IS AN INPUT INTO THE OVERALL.

5002
02:47:23,967 --> 02:47:25,435
LIKE THE GENERAL FUND FORECAST 

5003
02:47:25,435 --> 02:47:27,871
THAT OUR OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND 

5004
02:47:27,871 --> 02:47:28,438
REVENUE FORECASTS AND OTHER 

5005
02:47:28,438 --> 02:47:29,973
INDICATORS. AS YOU NOTED, PERMIT

5006
02:47:29,973 --> 02:47:31,808
ACTIVITY IS A KEY INDICATOR IN 

5007
02:47:31,808 --> 02:47:35,111
SORT OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY 

5008
02:47:35,111 --> 02:47:37,080
OCCURRING IN THE DEPARTMENT. BUT

5009
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:37,714
FOR REALLY DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC 

5010
02:47:37,714 --> 02:47:38,581
FUNDS, IT'S WHY THEY ALSO HAVE 

5011
02:47:38,581 --> 02:47:41,251
AN ECONOMIST ON STAFF AS THEY 

5012
02:47:41,251 --> 02:47:43,052
THEY DO THE FORECASTING FOR 

5013
02:47:43,052 --> 02:47:44,788
THEIR PERMIT PERMIT ACTIVITY. 

5014
02:47:44,788 --> 02:47:46,256
-- THANK YOU. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,

5015
02:47:46,256 --> 02:47:49,259
I'VE ONLY I'VE ONLY PULLED A 

5016
02:47:49,259 --> 02:47:52,429
COUPLE OF YEARS BACK DATA FROM 

5017
02:47:52,429 --> 02:47:54,130
OUR BUDGET BOOKS BECAUSE IT 

5018
02:47:54,130 --> 02:47:55,398
TELLS THE STORY OF HOW WE'VE 

5019
02:47:55,398 --> 02:47:57,167
BEEN FORECASTING WHERE WE 

5020
02:47:57,167 --> 02:47:58,134
THOUGHT THE PANDEMIC WOULD BE 

5021
02:47:58,134 --> 02:48:00,437
TWO WEEKS, TWO MONTHS, TWO 

5022
02:48:00,437 --> 02:48:04,174
YEARS. AND SO JUST LOOKING AT 

5023
02:48:04,174 --> 02:48:10,680
2027. ACTUALLY IN 2022, WE HAD 

5024
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:13,183
$34,000 IN THE CORE STAFFING 

5025
02:48:13,183 --> 02:48:14,250
FUND WHERE WE DRAWING DOWN THE 

5026
02:48:14,250 --> 02:48:15,985
CORE STAFFING FUND IN 2022. SO 

5027
02:48:15,985 --> 02:48:19,189
IT WAS STEADY. THAT WAS WHAT WE 

5028
02:48:19,189 --> 02:48:19,389
HAD. 

5029
02:48:19,389 --> 02:48:24,828
-- YEAH. DURING 2020, WE WERE 

5030
02:48:24,828 --> 02:48:26,329
SURPRISED. WE. WE, I BELIEVE WE 

5031
02:48:26,329 --> 02:48:30,266
HAD A, A RUSH AT THAT TIME, 

5032
02:48:30,266 --> 02:48:32,735
WHICH REALLY, WE INCREASED OUR 

5033
02:48:32,735 --> 02:48:33,570
FUND BALANCE IN 2020 OVERALL. 

5034
02:48:33,570 --> 02:48:34,204
AND THEN IT KIND OF STABILIZED 

5035
02:48:34,204 --> 02:48:35,805
AND DROPPED AFTER THAT. 

5036
02:48:35,805 --> 02:48:41,644
-- BUT AND BY 2024, WE HAD 

5037
02:48:41,644 --> 02:48:43,680
$22,000 IN THE CORE STAFFING 

5038
02:48:43,680 --> 02:48:45,482
FUND PROJECTED FOR 25, 26, AND 

5039
02:48:45,482 --> 02:48:45,648
27. 

5040
02:48:45,648 --> 02:48:47,317
-- IT'S DROPPING FAST, 

5041
02:48:47,317 --> 02:48:51,921
-- RIGHT, 34 TO 2022. BUT THEN 

5042
02:48:51,921 --> 02:48:54,524
IN THE 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET, WE 

5043
02:48:54,524 --> 02:48:58,428
HAD 22 STILL IN 25, BUT IT HAD 

5044
02:48:58,428 --> 02:49:02,866
ALREADY DROPPED TO 18,000 IN 

5045
02:49:02,866 --> 02:49:07,337
2026, WITH PROJECTING 15,000 IN 

5046
02:49:07,337 --> 02:49:09,839
THE REMAINING 2027, 28, 29. BUT 

5047
02:49:09,839 --> 02:49:11,674
BY THE TIME WE GOT TO 2026, THE 

5048
02:49:11,674 --> 02:49:15,178
BUDGET BEFORE US, WE'VE GOT 

5049
02:49:15,178 --> 02:49:19,616
12,000 THIS YEAR, FOLLOWED BY 

5050
02:49:19,616 --> 02:49:21,684
SEVEN SEVEN IN BOTH 27 AND 28. 

5051
02:49:21,684 --> 02:49:26,756
AND THEN IN 2029, WE SEE AN 

5052
02:49:26,756 --> 02:49:28,925
UPTICK. ANOTHER 12,000 GOING UP 

5053
02:49:28,925 --> 02:49:30,560
FROM SEVEN. BUT THEN WE COME TO 

5054
02:49:30,560 --> 02:49:33,029
THIS YEAR'S SORRY FOR THE 2027 

5055
02:49:33,029 --> 02:49:35,031
BUDGET. AND WE STILL SEE THAT 12

5056
02:49:35,031 --> 02:49:39,702
IS AN ACCURATE NUMBER FOR THE 26

5057
02:49:39,702 --> 02:49:41,538
ADOPTED. WE SEE WE HAVE 8000 IN 

5058
02:49:41,538 --> 02:49:43,473
OUR CORE STAFFING FOR 2027, 

5059
02:49:43,473 --> 02:49:46,976
WHICH IS UP 1000. BUT THEN IT 

5060
02:49:46,976 --> 02:49:48,378
DROPS FROM 7000 TO 1000. AND 

5061
02:49:48,378 --> 02:49:51,047
THEN WE'RE ZEROED OUT IN 28 AND

5062
02:49:51,047 --> 02:49:53,082
29. YEAH. IS THIS ALL GENERALLY,

5063
02:49:53,082 --> 02:49:54,183
YOU'RE UNDER? I'M JUST TRYING 

5064
02:49:54,183 --> 02:49:56,553
TO SHOW THE BURN RATE THAT WE 

5065
02:49:56,553 --> 02:49:58,621
WENT FROM $34 MILLION. 34 SORRY,

5066
02:49:58,621 --> 02:49:59,255
AM I MISSING THE ZEROS OR IS 

5067
02:49:59,255 --> 02:50:00,723
THIS THOUSANDS? 

5068
02:50:00,723 --> 02:50:01,624
-- IT'S MILLIONS. 

5069
02:50:01,624 --> 02:50:03,760
-- OKAY. I'M SORRY. WE GOT 34 

5070
02:50:03,760 --> 02:50:06,663
MILLION SITTING IN HERE IN 2022.

5071
02:50:06,663 --> 02:50:10,300
AND BY THE TIME WE'RE AT 2028, 

5072
02:50:10,300 --> 02:50:13,703
WE'RE AT ZERO. AND THAT'S 

5073
02:50:13,703 --> 02:50:14,704
BECAUSE OF THE PERMIT DECLINE, 

5074
02:50:14,704 --> 02:50:16,573
THE REVENUE, THE FEE BASED 

5075
02:50:16,573 --> 02:50:18,141
GENERATION, ALL OF THAT. IS THAT

5076
02:50:18,141 --> 02:50:18,408
CORRECT? 

5077
02:50:18,408 --> 02:50:19,943
-- YEAH. OF COURSE. STAFFING 

5078
02:50:19,943 --> 02:50:23,413
RESERVE. WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF

5079
02:50:23,413 --> 02:50:26,649
IT IS BUILDING PERMIT FEE 

5080
02:50:26,649 --> 02:50:28,251
BUILDING AND LAND USE. BUT THERE

5081
02:50:28,251 --> 02:50:30,286
IS ELECTRICAL AND SITE REVIEW IN

5082
02:50:30,286 --> 02:50:33,590
THERE AS WELL. SO WE HAVEN'T 

5083
02:50:33,590 --> 02:50:35,058
ACCESSED THAT YET. IT'S MOSTLY 

5084
02:50:35,058 --> 02:50:36,526
BUILDING AND LAND USE THAT ARE 

5085
02:50:36,526 --> 02:50:37,093
JUST DROPPING IN THE CHART 

5086
02:50:37,093 --> 02:50:38,094
THAT'S UP THERE. THAT'S JUST 

5087
02:50:38,094 --> 02:50:39,562
SHOWING ONLY THE BUILDING AND 

5088
02:50:39,562 --> 02:50:40,930
THE LAND USE CORE STAFF, THE RED

5089
02:50:40,930 --> 02:50:42,465
AND THE BLUE. 

5090
02:50:42,465 --> 02:50:43,933
-- GOTCHA. DIRECTOR. 

5091
02:50:43,933 --> 02:50:44,934
-- YEAH, AND I THINK THIS MIGHT 

5092
02:50:44,934 --> 02:50:47,637
BE KIND OF WHAT YOU ARE HONING 

5093
02:50:47,637 --> 02:50:48,571
IN ON HERE, BUT THIS IS A 

5094
02:50:48,571 --> 02:50:50,273
REFLECTION OF LIKE, EVEN WITH 

5095
02:50:50,273 --> 02:50:52,976
THE CHANGES IN THIS PROPOSED 

5096
02:50:52,976 --> 02:50:55,378
BUDGET, WE ARE STILL RELYING ON 

5097
02:50:55,378 --> 02:50:58,381
FUND BALANCE TO MAINTAIN EVEN 

5098
02:50:58,381 --> 02:50:59,949
THE REDUCED LEVELS OF STAFFING. 

5099
02:50:59,949 --> 02:51:01,784
AND THAT'S WHY I'VE SAID LIKE,

5100
02:51:01,784 --> 02:51:03,086
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING 

5101
02:51:03,086 --> 02:51:03,686
ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. THERE 

5102
02:51:03,686 --> 02:51:05,555
ARE LIKE 62 FUNDS. THERE'S MORE

5103
02:51:05,555 --> 02:51:07,991
WORK TO DO. THIS IS ONE OF THEM 

5104
02:51:07,991 --> 02:51:09,092
THAT IS LIKE, WE ARE WE HAVE 

5105
02:51:09,092 --> 02:51:11,527
MORE WORK TO DO. EVEN GOING INTO

5106
02:51:11,527 --> 02:51:12,729
NEXT YEAR TOGETHER. AND 

5107
02:51:12,729 --> 02:51:14,230
HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE WORK THAT 

5108
02:51:14,230 --> 02:51:15,131
I KNOW YOU ALL ARE LEADING ON 

5109
02:51:15,131 --> 02:51:18,534
AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND 

5110
02:51:18,534 --> 02:51:19,902
OTHERS WILL HELP BEND THE CURVE 

5111
02:51:19,902 --> 02:51:21,371
IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, I 

5112
02:51:21,371 --> 02:51:23,873
THINK IS THE GOAL. BUT EVEN WITH

5113
02:51:23,873 --> 02:51:25,208
THESE CHANGES, THERE'S SOME 

5114
02:51:25,208 --> 02:51:26,275
RELIANCE, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE 

5115
02:51:26,275 --> 02:51:28,778
TRYING TO BE CAUTIOUS TO NOT 

5116
02:51:28,778 --> 02:51:31,180
REALLY LIKE CUT THE CORE CORE 

5117
02:51:31,180 --> 02:51:33,483
STAFFING, BUT ALSO NEED TO BE 

5118
02:51:33,483 --> 02:51:35,018
CAREFUL IN SORT OF HOW HOW TO 

5119
02:51:35,018 --> 02:51:36,753
PROCEED. GIVEN THIS, THESE 

5120
02:51:36,753 --> 02:51:37,086
PROJECTIONS. 

5121
02:51:37,086 --> 02:51:38,388
-- THE REASON I BRING THIS UP 

5122
02:51:38,388 --> 02:51:40,056
NOW IS BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE GOT 

5123
02:51:40,056 --> 02:51:41,457
TO THE END OF THE BUDGET CYCLE, 

5124
02:51:41,457 --> 02:51:42,959
AND THERE WERE A LOT MORE 

5125
02:51:42,959 --> 02:51:44,627
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS VERY TOPIC,

5126
02:51:44,627 --> 02:51:46,462
WHICH IS WHY I'M GOING REALLY IN

5127
02:51:46,462 --> 02:51:48,631
DEPTH HERE. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK,

5128
02:51:48,631 --> 02:51:49,932
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ASK MY 

5129
02:51:49,932 --> 02:51:51,801
ONE QUESTION, WHICH HAS 25 

5130
02:51:51,801 --> 02:51:53,803
DIFFERENT PRONGS TO IT. I BRING 

5131
02:51:53,803 --> 02:51:56,572
THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S REALLY 

5132
02:51:56,572 --> 02:52:01,544
IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT FOLKS SEE 

5133
02:52:01,544 --> 02:52:03,112
THE 1 MILLION AND THE TWO ZEROS 

5134
02:52:03,112 --> 02:52:06,416
IN THIS LINE AS THE BIGGEST RED 

5135
02:52:06,416 --> 02:52:08,284
FLASHING BEACON IN THE BUDGET 

5136
02:52:08,284 --> 02:52:13,256
RIGHT NOW. THIS WAS EVEN JUST, 

5137
02:52:13,256 --> 02:52:15,091
YOU KNOW, WHEN I STARTED AS A 

5138
02:52:15,091 --> 02:52:18,161
BUDGET CHAIR, WE HAD OVER WE HAD

5139
02:52:18,161 --> 02:52:20,129
$22 MILLION IN THIS FUND. AND TO

5140
02:52:20,129 --> 02:52:23,966
BE EXHAUSTED OF THIS FUND IS 

5141
02:52:23,966 --> 02:52:25,034
IT'S JUST VERY SCARY. AND THIS 

5142
02:52:25,034 --> 02:52:27,503
IS AFTER WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE

5143
02:52:27,503 --> 02:52:28,905
THING THAT IS HARDEST FOR ME AS 

5144
02:52:28,905 --> 02:52:30,773
A PUBLIC SERVANT, WHICH IS LAY 

5145
02:52:30,773 --> 02:52:34,744
OFF MY CITY FAMILY. THIS IS 

5146
02:52:34,744 --> 02:52:37,447
AFTER WE HAVE INCREASED PERMIT 

5147
02:52:37,447 --> 02:52:39,449
FEES LAST YEAR, I'M SEEING 

5148
02:52:39,449 --> 02:52:40,917
MORE. AND THEN THIS YEAR WE ARE 

5149
02:52:40,917 --> 02:52:43,152
BOTH LAYING PEOPLE OFF AND 

5150
02:52:43,152 --> 02:52:46,089
INCREASING PERMIT FEES. AND SO 

5151
02:52:46,089 --> 02:52:48,391
THE ONLY OTHER OPTION HERE FROM 

5152
02:52:48,391 --> 02:52:50,193
HERE IS TO EITHER CONTINUE 

5153
02:52:50,193 --> 02:52:53,129
LAYING PEOPLE OFF, ADDING 

5154
02:52:53,129 --> 02:52:55,198
GENERAL FUND OR INCREASING THESE

5155
02:52:55,198 --> 02:52:56,899
FEES AGAIN, WHICH TO 

5156
02:52:56,899 --> 02:52:59,502
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE POINT, 

5157
02:52:59,502 --> 02:53:00,303
MAYBE IT WAS A SIDE POINT, WHICH

5158
02:53:00,303 --> 02:53:01,104
IS THAT IF OUR FEES ARE TOO 

5159
02:53:01,104 --> 02:53:01,804
HIGH, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO 

5160
02:53:01,804 --> 02:53:06,042
WANT TO BUILD. THIS IS BACK TO 

5161
02:53:06,042 --> 02:53:09,545
THE CONVERSATION OF MHA WAS 

5162
02:53:09,545 --> 02:53:11,714
GROSSING US $67 MILLION A YEAR 

5163
02:53:11,714 --> 02:53:13,416
TO 24 MILLION IN THE PROJECTIONS

5164
02:53:13,416 --> 02:53:14,784
THAT I'M SEEING IN THE MOST 

5165
02:53:14,784 --> 02:53:17,086
RECENT WERE $22 MILLION A YEAR 

5166
02:53:17,086 --> 02:53:19,756
AT BEST. AND THOSE ARE FLAT. 

5167
02:53:19,756 --> 02:53:20,890
THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL 

5168
02:53:20,890 --> 02:53:22,358
BECAUSE ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION 

5169
02:53:22,358 --> 02:53:24,260
SALES TAX COMES BACK TO US. ALL 

5170
02:53:24,260 --> 02:53:26,462
OF THE 1% ON NEW CONSTRUCTION 

5171
02:53:26,462 --> 02:53:30,566
COMES BACK TO US. ALL OF THE 

5172
02:53:30,566 --> 02:53:33,069
PROPERTY TRANSFERS THAT THAT 

5173
02:53:33,069 --> 02:53:35,271
FUNDING COMES BACK TO US. THIS 

5174
02:53:35,271 --> 02:53:40,209
IS PAGE 694, THE THIRD TO LAST 

5175
02:53:40,209 --> 02:53:41,711
LINE IS ONE OF THE MOST 

5176
02:53:41,711 --> 02:53:43,212
IMPORTANT LINES OF THE BUDGET. 

5177
02:53:43,212 --> 02:53:44,547
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING 

5178
02:53:44,547 --> 02:53:47,717
OUR ATTENTION HERE, BECAUSE THIS

5179
02:53:47,717 --> 02:53:50,753
IS THIS IS VERY BAD. IT'S VERY 

5180
02:53:50,753 --> 02:53:54,323
SCARY. AND I GUESS I DON'T HAVE

5181
02:53:54,323 --> 02:53:57,894
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ONLY TO SAY 

5182
02:53:57,894 --> 02:53:58,895
IT IS THE HARDEST THING FOR ME 

5183
02:53:58,895 --> 02:54:02,131
TO DO. PEOPLE CHOOSE TO WORK FOR

5184
02:54:02,131 --> 02:54:03,299
THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT'S GOT

5185
02:54:03,299 --> 02:54:04,967
GOOD BENEFITS AND IT'S GOT GOOD

5186
02:54:04,967 --> 02:54:05,568
STABILITY. WE DON'T PAY THE 

5187
02:54:05,568 --> 02:54:07,170
BEST. IF YOU NEED TO BE PAID 

5188
02:54:07,170 --> 02:54:08,404
MORE MONEY, YOU CAN GO WORK FOR 

5189
02:54:08,404 --> 02:54:09,739
THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND, YOU 

5190
02:54:09,739 --> 02:54:11,507
KNOW, MAKE A WHOLE LOT MORE 

5191
02:54:11,507 --> 02:54:12,074
MONEY. I THINK EVERYONE'S 

5192
02:54:12,074 --> 02:54:13,976
SITTING IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT.

5193
02:54:13,976 --> 02:54:16,279
AND WE ALL, FOR THOSE OF US WHO 

5194
02:54:16,279 --> 02:54:18,281
ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS, WE CHOOSE 

5195
02:54:18,281 --> 02:54:20,550
THE THIRD BOTTOM LINE OF OF 

5196
02:54:20,550 --> 02:54:22,318
CIVIC SERVICE BECAUSE OF, YOU 

5197
02:54:22,318 --> 02:54:23,786
KNOW, SERVICE TO OTHERS, SERVICE

5198
02:54:23,786 --> 02:54:25,688
TO CITIES, SERVICE TO NATION, 

5199
02:54:25,688 --> 02:54:28,157
BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT'S THE 

5200
02:54:28,157 --> 02:54:29,725
PRIVATE SECTOR GOES THROUGH 

5201
02:54:29,725 --> 02:54:30,293
ROUNDS OF LAYOFFS THAT THE 

5202
02:54:30,293 --> 02:54:32,361
PUBLIC SECTOR DOESN'T. THIS WILL

5203
02:54:32,361 --> 02:54:34,730
ONLY BE THE SECOND TIME THAT 

5204
02:54:34,730 --> 02:54:37,166
WE'VE LAID FOLKS OFF SINCE 

5205
02:54:37,166 --> 02:54:39,402
2008. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE STILL 

5206
02:54:39,402 --> 02:54:41,571
EXPERIENCING THE DOWNTURN FROM 

5207
02:54:41,571 --> 02:54:43,005
2008. FROM WHAT I'M SEEING WITH

5208
02:54:43,005 --> 02:54:45,107
THE CULTURE IN YOUR PERMITTING 

5209
02:54:45,107 --> 02:54:46,476
DEPARTMENT, EVERYONE IS CORRECT 

5210
02:54:46,476 --> 02:54:48,511
THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER 

5211
02:54:48,511 --> 02:54:49,679
DEPARTMENTS. THERE'S EVEN 

5212
02:54:49,679 --> 02:54:51,080
SEATTLE, KING COUNTY PUBLIC 

5213
02:54:51,080 --> 02:54:52,782
HEALTH WHEN IT COMES TO 

5214
02:54:52,782 --> 02:54:53,382
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND 

5215
02:54:53,382 --> 02:54:57,887
PLUMBING BUT I'M ALSO, YOUR 

5216
02:54:57,887 --> 02:55:00,790
DEPARTMENT HAS A LOT OF ROOM TO 

5217
02:55:00,790 --> 02:55:03,826
GROW AS FAR AS THE. ADDRESSING 

5218
02:55:03,826 --> 02:55:05,528
THE PERMIT AUDIT. AND ONE OF THE

5219
02:55:05,528 --> 02:55:07,897
THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED FROM 

5220
02:55:07,897 --> 02:55:11,501
MY OPINION IS THAT SOME OF THE. 

5221
02:55:11,501 --> 02:55:13,669
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE 

5222
02:55:13,669 --> 02:55:15,104
HAVE THAT THAT PERMIT AUDIT 

5223
02:55:15,104 --> 02:55:18,407
IDENTIFIED ARE, ARE DOWNSTREAM 

5224
02:55:18,407 --> 02:55:19,275
IMPACTS OF LAYING HALF OF YOUR 

5225
02:55:19,275 --> 02:55:21,811
DEPARTMENT OFF IN 2008 WITHOUT 

5226
02:55:21,811 --> 02:55:23,846
HAVING THE CONTINGENT BUDGET 

5227
02:55:23,846 --> 02:55:25,314
AUTHORITY, WITHOUT HAVING THIS 

5228
02:55:25,314 --> 02:55:29,185
CORE STAFFING FUND. AND SO I'M 

5229
02:55:29,185 --> 02:55:30,319
RELIEVED THAT WE LEARNED LESSONS

5230
02:55:30,319 --> 02:55:33,089
FROM THERE. I STILL FEEL LIKE 

5231
02:55:33,089 --> 02:55:34,657
WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE IMPACTS,

5232
02:55:34,657 --> 02:55:36,926
AND I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING 

5233
02:55:36,926 --> 02:55:38,961
THAT I CAN TO MAKE THIS 

5234
02:55:38,961 --> 02:55:42,031
REDUCTION AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE. 

5235
02:55:42,031 --> 02:55:44,200
BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE POINTING 

5236
02:55:44,200 --> 02:55:47,069
US IN A VERY EVEN. I MEAN, JUST 

5237
02:55:47,069 --> 02:55:50,673
TO EVEN GO FROM 22 TO 15 TO 7 TO

5238
02:55:50,673 --> 02:55:52,508
$1 MILLION IN THE COURSE OF FOUR

5239
02:55:52,508 --> 02:55:57,079
YEARS IS THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR 

5240
02:55:57,079 --> 02:55:58,414
ITSELF. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO

5241
02:55:58,414 --> 02:55:59,582
SPEND THE BUDGET COMMITTEE 

5242
02:55:59,582 --> 02:56:01,017
FOLLOWING UP ON THE PERMIT 

5243
02:56:01,017 --> 02:56:03,719
AUDIT, BUT I CAN SAY THAT THE 

5244
02:56:03,719 --> 02:56:05,588
LAST TIME THAT I'VE CHECKED IN 

5245
02:56:05,588 --> 02:56:06,556
WITH THE AUDITORS, WE WERE NOT 

5246
02:56:06,556 --> 02:56:08,224
AT A PLACE WHERE I FELT GOOD. I 

5247
02:56:08,224 --> 02:56:10,927
KNOW, SAM, YOU'RE THE SECOND 

5248
02:56:10,927 --> 02:56:11,560
DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO EVER TAKE

5249
02:56:11,560 --> 02:56:13,329
IT SERIOUSLY, FOLLOWED BY 

5250
02:56:13,329 --> 02:56:17,366
DIRECTOR BAAB. SO I APPRECIATE 

5251
02:56:17,366 --> 02:56:19,735
YOU TAKING ADDITIONAL EFFORTS, 

5252
02:56:19,735 --> 02:56:22,538
BUT WE NEED TO. I CAN GET A 

5253
02:56:22,538 --> 02:56:24,373
SENSE OF WHERE IT COMES FROM, 

5254
02:56:24,373 --> 02:56:25,942
AND IT'S FROM A SIMILAR 

5255
02:56:25,942 --> 02:56:26,509
SITUATION AS WHAT WE'RE 

5256
02:56:26,509 --> 02:56:29,211
EXPERIENCING NOW. MY ONLY OTHER 

5257
02:56:29,211 --> 02:56:31,080
QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR PANUCCI, 

5258
02:56:31,080 --> 02:56:33,783
WE HAVE, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING 

5259
02:56:33,783 --> 02:56:35,918
YESTERDAY IN THE BUDGET, WE HAVE

5260
02:56:35,918 --> 02:56:38,754
21 EMPLOYEES REVIEWING PERMITS. 

5261
02:56:38,754 --> 02:56:41,857
ARE THOSE PERMIT REVIEWERS? IS 

5262
02:56:41,857 --> 02:56:43,893
THAT FEE BASED COMING BACK TO 

5263
02:56:43,893 --> 02:56:46,395
THE IS ARE THERE 

5264
02:56:46,395 --> 02:56:48,230
-- ASPECTS OF THOSE FEES THAT 

5265
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:50,466
ARE COMING INTO THIS CORE 

5266
02:56:50,466 --> 02:56:51,701
STAFFING FUND ARE THOSE FEE 

5267
02:56:51,701 --> 02:56:53,102
BASED POSITIONS? ARE THEY THE 

5268
02:56:53,102 --> 02:56:54,904
SAME OR DIFFERENT THAN THE 

5269
02:56:54,904 --> 02:56:58,140
POSITIONS IN SDCI? AND THIS IS 

5270
02:56:58,140 --> 02:56:59,041
WHY I ASKED FOR DIRECTOR BRADY 

5271
02:56:59,041 --> 02:57:00,276
TO JOIN US, BUT I UNDERSTAND SHE

5272
02:57:00,276 --> 02:57:03,512
HAS A CONFLICT. 

5273
02:57:03,512 --> 02:57:04,914
-- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M 

5274
02:57:04,914 --> 02:57:08,017
UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION. ARE

5275
02:57:08,017 --> 02:57:09,518
YOU ASKING ME LIKE SDCI HAS A 

5276
02:57:09,518 --> 02:57:12,121
TEAM OF FULL TIME STAFF THAT IS 

5277
02:57:12,121 --> 02:57:13,589
DEDICATED TO SOUND TRANSIT 

5278
02:57:13,589 --> 02:57:16,258
PERMIT COORDINATION, AND THAT'S

5279
02:57:16,258 --> 02:57:18,628
FUNDED BY SOUND TRANSIT, AND 

5280
02:57:18,628 --> 02:57:20,196
THAT'S NOT IMPACTED BY THESE 

5281
02:57:20,196 --> 02:57:21,697
CHANGES. AND THEN ABOUT A YEAR 

5282
02:57:21,697 --> 02:57:22,798
AGO, I BELIEVE, BUT THIS I 

5283
02:57:22,798 --> 02:57:24,333
WASN'T HERE, BUT I DID REVISIT 

5284
02:57:24,333 --> 02:57:27,136
THE ORDINANCE. THE COUNCIL, YOU 

5285
02:57:27,136 --> 02:57:29,472
I THINK I'M NOT SURE PASSED. I 

5286
02:57:29,472 --> 02:57:30,940
MEAN, ALL OF YOU. BUT I THINK 

5287
02:57:30,940 --> 02:57:32,141
MAYBE YOU SPONSORED IT. I CAN'T

5288
02:57:32,141 --> 02:57:35,578
REMEMBER, BUT LEAD THERE WAS AN 

5289
02:57:35,578 --> 02:57:36,178
ORDINANCE THAT ADDED ABOUT 50 

5290
02:57:36,178 --> 02:57:38,180
POSITIONS ACROSS THE CITY TO 

5291
02:57:38,180 --> 02:57:42,952
SUPPORT ST3 WORK. ONLY ONE OF 

5292
02:57:42,952 --> 02:57:44,754
THOSE WAS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 

5293
02:57:44,754 --> 02:57:45,354
CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS. 

5294
02:57:45,354 --> 02:57:47,423
THAT POSITION IS NOT IMPACTED BY

5295
02:57:47,423 --> 02:57:48,591
THESE CHANGES, NOR ARE THE 

5296
02:57:48,591 --> 02:57:51,027
POSITIONS IN THE OTHER OTHER 

5297
02:57:51,027 --> 02:57:52,061
DEPARTMENTS IMPACTED IN THIS IN 

5298
02:57:52,061 --> 02:57:55,564
THIS BUDGET. SO THAT CONTINUES. 

5299
02:57:55,564 --> 02:57:58,067
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ANTICIPATING 

5300
02:57:58,067 --> 02:58:00,336
THE NEED TO FILL POTENTIALLY 2 

5301
02:58:00,336 --> 02:58:02,238
TO 5 PLAN REVIEW POSITIONS IN 

5302
02:58:02,238 --> 02:58:06,575
THE FUTURE. IF THE ST3 WORK 

5303
02:58:06,575 --> 02:58:08,411
PICKS UP AND THOSE REVENUES COME

5304
02:58:08,411 --> 02:58:09,545
IN ALONG ALONGSIDE IT. BUT RIGHT

5305
02:58:09,545 --> 02:58:12,448
NOW THE CORE TEAM AND SDCI 

5306
02:58:12,448 --> 02:58:12,715
REMAINS. 

5307
02:58:12,715 --> 02:58:13,582
-- THANK YOU. VERY HELPFUL. I'LL

5308
02:58:13,582 --> 02:58:14,784
FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. 

5309
02:58:14,784 --> 02:58:16,786
COLLEAGUES. THE REASON I ASKED 

5310
02:58:16,786 --> 02:58:18,454
THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE IN 

5311
02:58:18,454 --> 02:58:20,723
DOWNTURN, IT IS MOST IMPORTANT 

5312
02:58:20,723 --> 02:58:22,491
THAT WE GET CIVIC UNION BUILT 

5313
02:58:22,491 --> 02:58:23,959
PROJECTS ROLLING. IN THE 

5314
02:58:23,959 --> 02:58:25,728
PANDEMIC, WE HAD THE WEST 

5315
02:58:25,728 --> 02:58:27,430
SEATTLE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION. WE 

5316
02:58:27,430 --> 02:58:27,963
HAD THE CONVENTION CENTER 

5317
02:58:27,963 --> 02:58:29,598
CONSTRUCTION, WE HAD THE 

5318
02:58:29,598 --> 02:58:30,533
WATERFRONT CONSTRUCTION JUST 

5319
02:58:30,533 --> 02:58:31,734
AHEAD OF THAT AND ENDING DURING 

5320
02:58:31,734 --> 02:58:33,269
THE PANDEMIC. WE HAD KEY ARENA, 

5321
02:58:33,269 --> 02:58:37,239
CLIMATE PLEDGE, ARENA 

5322
02:58:37,239 --> 02:58:38,774
CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE LIGHT RAIL

5323
02:58:38,774 --> 02:58:42,645
COMING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY 

5324
02:58:42,645 --> 02:58:43,612
MAJOR CITY FUNDED PROJECTS GOING

5325
02:58:43,612 --> 02:58:46,816
ON RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ONLY 

5326
02:58:46,816 --> 02:58:47,950
CREATING A BIGGER NEGATIVE 

5327
02:58:47,950 --> 02:58:50,553
IMPACT ON OUR SALES TAX, ON OUR 

5328
02:58:50,553 --> 02:58:53,589
PROPERTY TAX ET-CETERA. AND SO 

5329
02:58:53,589 --> 02:58:55,991
THAT IS THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT 

5330
02:58:55,991 --> 02:58:58,094
MONEY, IS THAT IT CAN STIMULATE 

5331
02:58:58,094 --> 02:59:00,763
OUR ECONOMY WHILE HIRING GOOD, 

5332
02:59:00,763 --> 02:59:03,499
WELL-PAID UNION JOBS. SO I 

5333
02:59:03,499 --> 02:59:04,366
DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER 

5334
02:59:04,366 --> 02:59:05,835
QUESTIONS. ANYTHING THAT YOU'D 

5335
02:59:05,835 --> 02:59:09,004
LIKE TO RESPOND TO ME ON? 

5336
02:59:09,004 --> 02:59:12,208
-- ONE THING COUNCILMEMBER 

5337
02:59:12,208 --> 02:59:15,678
STRAUSS, I WAS PART OF THAT 2009

5338
02:59:15,678 --> 02:59:18,514
REDUCTION IN PROJECT HIRE. I 

5339
02:59:18,514 --> 02:59:20,750
WENT TO SEATTLE CENTER FOR FOUR 

5340
02:59:20,750 --> 02:59:24,086
YEARS AS A CREW CHIEF, AND WHEN 

5341
02:59:24,086 --> 02:59:25,421
THE OPPORTUNITY, WHEN THE 

5342
02:59:25,421 --> 02:59:27,056
ECONOMY PICKED UP AGAIN, I WAS 

5343
02:59:27,056 --> 02:59:30,693
WAS ABLE TO COME BACK TO DPD AT 

5344
02:59:30,693 --> 02:59:34,830
THE TIME. AND SO NOW FOR ME TO 

5345
02:59:34,830 --> 02:59:37,266
BE IN THIS POSITION IS EXTREMELY

5346
02:59:37,266 --> 02:59:38,567
EMOTIONAL. IT'S, IT'S IT'S A 

5347
02:59:38,567 --> 02:59:42,304
HUMAN, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT TO 

5348
02:59:42,304 --> 02:59:44,373
THIS THAT IT LEADS ME TO, TO USE

5349
02:59:44,373 --> 02:59:47,843
THE BEST JUDGMENT AND ACT WITH 

5350
02:59:47,843 --> 02:59:50,646
CHARACTER. SO I JUST WANT TO 

5351
02:59:50,646 --> 02:59:52,781
THROW THAT OUT TO THE, THE, THE 

5352
02:59:52,781 --> 02:59:54,350
COUNCIL HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, 

5353
02:59:54,350 --> 02:59:57,052
THESE ARE REAL CONSIDERATIONS 

5354
02:59:57,052 --> 03:00:00,022
WITH REAL PEOPLE. AND WE'RE VERY

5355
03:00:00,022 --> 03:00:02,458
MUCH AWARE OF THE IMPACTS. 

5356
03:00:02,458 --> 03:00:03,993
-- SO VERY WELL, SAID DIRECTOR. 

5357
03:00:03,993 --> 03:00:05,694
WELL, I KNOW IT'S SEVEN PEOPLE 

5358
03:00:05,694 --> 03:00:07,930
IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARE 

5359
03:00:07,930 --> 03:00:10,900
SEVEN FAMILIES, SEVEN RENT 

5360
03:00:10,900 --> 03:00:13,636
PAYMENTS, SEVEN MORTGAGES, SEVEN

5361
03:00:13,636 --> 03:00:15,237
TAKING CARE OF TAKING THE KIDS 

5362
03:00:15,237 --> 03:00:18,440
TO WHATEVER PRACTICE THEY'RE 

5363
03:00:18,440 --> 03:00:21,143
GOING TO. AND IT'S THE MOST 

5364
03:00:21,143 --> 03:00:23,879
DIFFICULT DECISION WE CAN MAKE. 

5365
03:00:23,879 --> 03:00:24,947
COUNCILMEMBER LIN TAKE US HOME. 

5366
03:00:24,947 --> 03:00:26,248
-- ALL RIGHT. THANK THANK YOU, 

5367
03:00:26,248 --> 03:00:30,619
CHAIR AND I APPRECIATE YOUR 

5368
03:00:30,619 --> 03:00:33,689
HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF 

5369
03:00:33,689 --> 03:00:37,359
THESE POSITIONS, THE IMPACT TO 

5370
03:00:37,359 --> 03:00:39,895
OUR OUR CITY STAFF. YOU KNOW, 

5371
03:00:39,895 --> 03:00:42,631
POTENTIAL LOSS OF INSTITUTIONAL 

5372
03:00:42,631 --> 03:00:43,833
KNOWLEDGE, ABSOLUTELY CONCERNED 

5373
03:00:43,833 --> 03:00:45,467
ABOUT LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN 2008

5374
03:00:45,467 --> 03:00:47,169
AND DON'T WANT TO SEE A REPEAT,

5375
03:00:47,169 --> 03:00:49,405
REPEAT OF THAT. SO APPRECIATE 

5376
03:00:49,405 --> 03:00:51,407
THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF TRYING TO 

5377
03:00:51,407 --> 03:00:52,641
MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO STAFF. 

5378
03:00:52,641 --> 03:00:54,610
AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET 

5379
03:00:54,610 --> 03:00:57,279
THIS SHIP TURNED AROUND A BIT. I

5380
03:00:57,279 --> 03:00:59,048
DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN 

5381
03:00:59,048 --> 03:01:05,120
ECONOMIC TIMES ARE BETTER, I 

5382
03:01:05,120 --> 03:01:08,357
THINK SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES, 

5383
03:01:08,357 --> 03:01:11,193
DEVELOPERS CAN SORT OF HANDLE 

5384
03:01:11,193 --> 03:01:12,127
THE IMPACTS FROM DELAYS AND SORT

5385
03:01:12,127 --> 03:01:15,030
OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIVE 

5386
03:01:15,030 --> 03:01:16,232
REQUIREMENTS THAT WE IMPOSE UPON

5387
03:01:16,232 --> 03:01:18,000
THEM. BUT WHEN THE HEADWINDS ARE

5388
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:19,068
AS STRONG AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW,

5389
03:01:19,068 --> 03:01:22,137
I JUST THINK IT REALLY 

5390
03:01:22,137 --> 03:01:23,272
HIGHLIGHTS HOW WE WE NEED TO 

5391
03:01:23,272 --> 03:01:26,709
TAKE A SHARPER, CLOSER LOOK AT 

5392
03:01:26,709 --> 03:01:29,478
AND JUST BE THAT MUCH MORE 

5393
03:01:29,478 --> 03:01:30,846
RESPONSIVE IN OUR PERMITTING AND

5394
03:01:30,846 --> 03:01:31,814
TAKING A LOOK. AND SO OBVIOUSLY,

5395
03:01:31,814 --> 03:01:35,985
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT 

5396
03:01:35,985 --> 03:01:38,020
WITH THE DISCUSSION WITH THE 

5397
03:01:38,020 --> 03:01:39,021
MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE, 

5398
03:01:39,021 --> 03:01:41,290
LOOK FORWARD TO SORT OF SEEING 

5399
03:01:41,290 --> 03:01:42,825
OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME 

5400
03:01:42,825 --> 03:01:45,261
FROM THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, 

5401
03:01:45,261 --> 03:01:46,595
HOPEFULLY THAT WORK WILL NOT 

5402
03:01:46,595 --> 03:01:49,398
JUST HELP IN THIS SHORT TERM. 

5403
03:01:49,398 --> 03:01:51,100
BUT THEN EVEN HELP, AS YOU KNOW,

5404
03:01:51,100 --> 03:01:52,434
MAYBE THOSE HEADWINDS GET A 

5405
03:01:52,434 --> 03:01:54,904
LITTLE BIT LESS THE HARD WORK 

5406
03:01:54,904 --> 03:02:01,677
WILL, PAY OFF. I ALSO JUST THINK

5407
03:02:01,677 --> 03:02:03,812
THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU 

5408
03:02:03,812 --> 03:02:07,182
MENTIONED, CHAIR STRAUSS, THE 

5409
03:02:07,182 --> 03:02:09,084
THE IMPACTS FROM DEVELOPMENT 

5410
03:02:09,084 --> 03:02:09,852
DOWNTURNS ARE MUCH. YOU KNOW, WE

5411
03:02:09,852 --> 03:02:11,153
TALK A LOT ABOUT SORT OF, YOU 

5412
03:02:11,153 --> 03:02:12,655
KNOW, THE NEED FOR HOUSING 

5413
03:02:12,655 --> 03:02:16,525
SUPPLY, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY 

5414
03:02:16,525 --> 03:02:17,192
MULTIPLIERS, WHETHER IT'S JOBS,

5415
03:02:17,192 --> 03:02:19,128
WHETHER IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION 

5416
03:02:19,128 --> 03:02:20,396
TAX, THE SIDEWALKS, WHETHER 

5417
03:02:20,396 --> 03:02:22,131
IT'S THE PERMIT FEES, AND ON 

5418
03:02:22,131 --> 03:02:24,166
AND ON AND ON. AND REALLY 

5419
03:02:24,166 --> 03:02:24,900
APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 

5420
03:02:24,900 --> 03:02:29,705
THE SMALL BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, 

5421
03:02:29,705 --> 03:02:31,540
SUPPORT DELAYS IN PERMITTING FOR

5422
03:02:31,540 --> 03:02:32,808
SMALL BUSINESS CAN BE 

5423
03:02:32,808 --> 03:02:35,511
DEVASTATING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I

5424
03:02:35,511 --> 03:02:36,679
JUST I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS AND 

5425
03:02:36,679 --> 03:02:40,516
YOUR STAFF DO A GREAT JOB, BUT 

5426
03:02:40,516 --> 03:02:42,051
JUST WANT TO REALLY REINFORCE 

5427
03:02:42,051 --> 03:02:46,121
THE NEED FOR THAT CUSTOMER 

5428
03:02:46,121 --> 03:02:47,356
SERVICE SORT OF FOCUS. AND IT 

5429
03:02:47,356 --> 03:02:48,691
MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE. AND, 

5430
03:02:48,691 --> 03:02:50,926
YOU KNOW, SDCI PLAYS AN OUTSIZED

5431
03:02:50,926 --> 03:02:53,595
SORT OF ROLE IN TERMS OF THAT 

5432
03:02:53,595 --> 03:02:55,497
CUSTOMER SERVICE. SO MANY PEOPLE

5433
03:02:55,497 --> 03:02:57,366
DO INTERFACE WITH SDCI, WHETHER 

5434
03:02:57,366 --> 03:03:00,803
IT'S ON THE PERMIT SIDE OR ON 

5435
03:03:00,803 --> 03:03:01,870
THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE. AND SO 

5436
03:03:01,870 --> 03:03:02,538
JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU 

5437
03:03:02,538 --> 03:03:06,508
AND YOUR STAFF FOR WHAT YOU DO 

5438
03:03:06,508 --> 03:03:07,476
AND JUST WANT TO REINFORCE SORT 

5439
03:03:07,476 --> 03:03:10,879
OF THE, THE, THE AT LEAST, YOU 

5440
03:03:10,879 --> 03:03:12,481
KNOW, CALL FROM, FROM ME. BUT 

5441
03:03:12,481 --> 03:03:13,949
I'M SURE A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES

5442
03:03:13,949 --> 03:03:16,652
WOULD AGREE, YOU KNOW, REALLY 

5443
03:03:16,652 --> 03:03:20,089
LEANING INTO THAT SORT OF CAN DO

5444
03:03:20,089 --> 03:03:20,622
PROBLEM SOLVING, CUSTOMER 

5445
03:03:20,622 --> 03:03:25,060
SERVICE APPROACH. SO THANK YOU 

5446
03:03:25,060 --> 03:03:26,729
-- THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I AM 

5447
03:03:26,729 --> 03:03:28,897
RECEIVING THE NONVERBAL CUES 

5448
03:03:28,897 --> 03:03:31,300
FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT IT IS 

5449
03:03:31,300 --> 03:03:32,868
LUNCHTIME AND WITH CITY GRIND 

5450
03:03:32,868 --> 03:03:35,170
ONLY OPEN ANOTHER 27 MINUTES, WE

5451
03:03:35,170 --> 03:03:36,638
WILL TAKE LUNCH FOR ABOUT AN 

5452
03:03:36,638 --> 03:03:38,640
HOUR. OPCD HAS BEEN WAITING HERE

5453
03:03:38,640 --> 03:03:39,742
PATIENTLY. THANK YOU FOR BEING 

5454
03:03:39,742 --> 03:03:40,809
EARLY, WHICH IS ON TIME. IN THE 

5455
03:03:40,809 --> 03:03:42,678
WORDS OF COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. 

5456
03:03:42,678 --> 03:03:46,248
AND WE WILL BE BACK HERE. I'M 

5457
03:03:46,248 --> 03:03:47,316
GOING TO GIVE US THE FULL HOUR. 

5458
03:03:47,316 --> 03:03:51,787
SO. 135 WHICH MEANS WE START 

5459
03:03:51,787 --> 03:03:53,255
OPCD AT 136, WHICH MEANS WE 

5460
03:03:53,255 --> 03:03:59,728
SHOULD ALL BE HERE AT 134. WITH 

5461
03:03:59,728 --> 03:04:01,930
THAT, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, 

5462
03:04:01,930 --> 03:04:03,732
THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE WILL

5463
03:04:03,732 --> 03:04:05,734
BE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:35 P.M.. 

5464
03:04:05,734 --> 03:04:06,769
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE SELECT

5465
03:04:06,769 --> 03:04:08,370
BUDGET COMMITTEE IS IN RECESS 

5466
03:04:08,370 --> 03:04:11,040
FOR ONE HOUR. THANK YOU 

