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-- THANK YOU AND WELCOME BACK TO

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THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE 

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MEETING. THE SEPTEMBER 25th 

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SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING 

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WILL COME BACK TO ORDER. IT IS 

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1:01 P.M.. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE

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CALL THE ROLL 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK PRESENT 

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COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. 

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COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. HERE. FOSTER

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HERE. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCIL 

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PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH HERE. 

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COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ 

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COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

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COUNCILMEMBER LIN HERE AND CHAIR

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STRAUSS HERE SIX PRESENT. 

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-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

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KETTLE IS EXCUSED FOR THE 

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REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON, AND 

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THE REMAINING COUNCILMEMBERS ARE

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EXCUSED UNTIL THEY ARRIVE. VICE 

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CHAIR RIVERA IS NOW PRESENT. I 

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WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK 

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT, HOLLINGSWORTH

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AND COUNCILMEMBER RINCK FOR 

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BEING EARLY, WHICH IS ON TIME 

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AND FOR COUNCILMEMBER LIN AND 

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FOSTER FOR BEING ON TIME, WHICH 

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IS BOB'S. BOB'S NOT HERE, SO I

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WON'T SAY THE WHOLE THING. SO 

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WITH THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH A

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MARATHON OF A DAY. WE HAVE TWO 

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PRESENTATIONS LEFT TO GO. CLERK 

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I THINK I OMITTED READING THE 

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FIRST ITEM INTO THE RECORD. SO 

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WE'RE GOING TO READ THE FIRST 

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AND SECOND ITEMS INTO THE 

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RECORD. WE DID WELL, FAIR 

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ENOUGH. THEN WE'RE GOING TO READ

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THE SECOND ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

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WE'RE GOING TO GO DIRECTLY OVER

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TO THE COMMITTEE TABLE FOR THE 

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PRESENTATION. AND THEN WE WILL 

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TAKE QUESTIONS. AND COUNCIL 

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PRESIDENT EMERITUS JUAREZ IS 

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PRESENT AS WELL 

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-- AGENDA ITEM TWO. COMMUNITY 

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ASSISTED RESPONSE AND ENGAGEMENT

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FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. 

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-- CHIEF BARDEN COMMITTEE TABLE.

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PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY. 

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-- ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, 

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COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M GOING TO GO

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QUICKLY THROUGH THIS AND RESERVE

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A LOT OF TIME FOR ANY QUESTIONS 

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YOU MIGHT HAVE. I'M HERE WITH 

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OUR CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE 

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OFFICER, TOMMY ROWLAND AND ALY 

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PENNUCCI. AGAIN NEXT AS YOU 

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KNOW, KERR WAS ESTABLISHED AS A 

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THIRD CO-EQUAL PUBLIC SAFETY 

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DEPARTMENT IN 2023. SINCE THAT 

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TIME, COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED US 

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IN EXPANDING AND STABILIZING 

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SEATTLE 911 ESTABLISHING AND 

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EXPANDING CITYWIDE. THE CARE 

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LEAD, THE COLEAD IN THE. WE 

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DELIVER CARE CONTRACTS. OUR 

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MISSION IS TO ANSWER THE CALL, 

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PROVIDING THE BEST FIRST 

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RESPONSE TO EVERY NEIGHBOR. 

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NEXT. THIS PROPOSED BUDGET 

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REFLECTS OUR CURRENT BUDGET 

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REALITY AND URGENT PUBLIC SAFETY

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THE CARE RESPONDER TEAM 

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STRUCTURAL AND STRATEGIC CHANGE 

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SUPPORT, AND I ALSO SUPPORT THE 

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AND STRATEGIES FOR SEATTLE 911. 

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ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE WILL 

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MAINTAIN AT LEAST EIGHT POSITION

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WHO ARE ABLE TO WORK ALL 

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SUFFERING. A LOT OF ANGER AND 

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STANDARDS AND CAPACITY. NEXT. I 

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DO WANT TO PAUSE TO COMMEND THIS

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COUNCIL FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT

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OF SEATTLE NINE ONE. ONE IS A 

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CRITICAL PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITY.

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OUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HAS 

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NEXT. WHILE IT IS NOT IDEAL TO 

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PILOT NEARLY THREE YEARS AGO, 

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MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO DOES WHAT 

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RAPIDLY CHANGING ENVIRONMENT, 

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REFINE THE WAY THAT WE'RE 

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SYSTEM AND HOW WE PROACTIVELY 

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SIMPLE TRIAGE AND THEN MOVE ON 

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TO THE NEXT CALL MUCH OF THIS 

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NINE ONE, ONE AND 988 SYSTEMS 

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SYSTEM AND ALSO TO SEND THE 

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JUST PUBLISHED LAST WEEK. I 

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MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE CARE 

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SHOULD PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE 

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COORDINATION AND PROCESS AND 

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PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WE SHOULD BE 

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DRIVING FISCAL EFFICIENCY, LESS 

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PERSON CENTERED DESIGN INSTEAD 

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OF PROCESS CENTRIC DESIGN. NEXT 

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I AM REALLY PLEASED WITH THE 

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CARE RESPONDER GROWTH AND 

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EXPANSION THIS YEAR. WHEN I LAST

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COMMITTEE, WE WERE HOVERING 

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AROUND 30% UTILITY, MEANING THE 

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PART TO NEW SUPPORT IN THE 

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MAYOR'S OFFICE. RENEWED SUPPORT

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SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE 

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CONSISTENTLY WORKING AT ABOUT 

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80% CAPACITY. WE KNOW THAT THEY 

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WILL BE AT 100% CAPACITY THIS 

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YEAR AS WE STRENGTHEN OUR 

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PARTNERSHIP WITH KING COUNTY 

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JAIL, WITH HARBORVIEW, WITH 

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LOCAL NONPROFITS, AND THROUGH 

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NEW COORDINATED EMPHASIS PATROLS

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WITH OUR PRECINCTS. I DO WANT TO

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REMIND YOU THAT THE 17000 CALLS 

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THAT WE'VE BEEN TO REPRESENT, 

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ABOUT 2500 ZERO HOURS OF OFFICER

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TIME THAT HAS BEEN ALLEVIATED 

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EVERY TIME WE FREE UP LAW 

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ENFORCEMENT TO DO THE WORK, THAT

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ONLY THEY CAN DO IS SIGNIFICANT.

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GETTING OFFICERS TO PRIORITY ONE

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CALLS AND UNDER SEVEN MINUTES 

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CONTINUES TO BE THE TOP 

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PRIORITY. NEXT HAS BEEN STUDYING

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GUN VIOLENCE REDUCTION AND 

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2023. ALWAYS CONTEMPLATING AND 

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EXPECTING THAT THAT BODY OF WORK

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WOULD MOVE OVER TO US BECAUSE IT

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WAS LEGISLATED BY THE COUNCIL. 

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I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BETTER 

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COORDINATE THE LIFE WORK OF 

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COMMUNITY PROVIDERS TO CENTER 

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COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATIONS IN NEW

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WAYS TO ELEVATE THE CRUCIAL 

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PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COMMUNITY 

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CASE MANAGERS AND VIOLENCE 

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INTERRUPTERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AS

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WE HELP YOUNG PEOPLE MIXED UP IN

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CYCLES OF VIOLENCE TO REDIRECT 

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THEIR LIVES. AND WE DO KNOW WHAT

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WORKS. I COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA I 

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REALLY WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU 

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AND AFFIRM THE COMMENTS I'VE 

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HEARD IN THE PAST. AND ALSO THIS

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MORNING, FOCUSED DETERRENCE WAS 

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FIRST EXPLAINED TO ME 

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TECHNICALLY BY DR. ATHERLEY WHEN

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I FIRST STARTED, AND OTHER 

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PEOPLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. THAT 

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YEAR, 2023 IN SPD, I WAS THERE 

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KIND OF ON THE FRONT LINES, 

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CHEERING AS THE COMMUNITY 

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VIOLENCE TASK FORCE WAS FIRST 

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ESTABLISHED AND STARTED TO HAVE 

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REALLY MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE 

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ISSUE OF YOUTH GUN VIOLENCE. A 

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WEEKLY GUN CALL WAS ESTABLISHED 

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WITH MAJOR PARTNERS IN DIFFERENT

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PARTS OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 

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SYSTEM. AND I WAS AGAIN ON THAT 

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CALL YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST 

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TIME. AND SO THAT THOSE ARE 

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DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE 

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FOCUS DETERRENCE MODEL THAT 

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STARTED TO BE INVESTED IN, BUT 

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IT MEANS SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO 

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YOUR POINT AND HAS NOT BEEN 

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FULLY IMPLEMENTED, AND IT HAS 

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NEVER BEEN CONNECTED TO THE 

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COMMUNITY SIDE OF THE WORK, 

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WHICH IS VERY IMPERATIVE. I WANT

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TO PAUSE AND ACKNOWLEDGE AND 

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THANK DIRECTOR TANYA KIM AND HSD

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AND MAGGIE ERICA PABLO FOR THEIR

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EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP, THEIR 

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HARD WORK IN THIS SPACE. HSD HAS

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ADVOCATED THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE 

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A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SAFETY 

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PRIORITY AND FOCAL POINT, AND 

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HAVE BEEN REALLY SUPPORTIVE AS 

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WE'VE BEEN THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW

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WE SHOULD MOVE THESE CONTRACTS 

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OVER THE NEW BUDGET POSITIONS 

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PROPOSED WILL BE FULLY FOCUSED 

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ON THE OBJECTIVE OF GUN VIOLENCE

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REDUCTION, WHICH I THINK IS 

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REALLY IMPORTANT. WE ARE ALSO 

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ADDING OUR FIRST DATA SCIENTIST 

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TO KAREN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. 

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THAT'S PART OF OUR EXISTING 

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BUDGET, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT 

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THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO, AGAIN, 

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IDENTIFY WHAT IMPACT WE WANT TO 

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SEE AND THEN ESTABLISH METRICS 

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AND REALLY TRANSPARENTLY TRACK 

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OUR PROGRESS AGAINST THOSE 

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METRICS. TO ME, THIS PART OF THE

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CARE LEGISLATION IN 2023 WAS THE

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MOST SIGNIFICANT. CONCEPTUALLY, 

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COORDINATING 

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CONVENING ENTITY, SYNTHESIZING 

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INFORMATION, AND THEN ACTIVELY 

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REPORTING WHAT'S WORKING AND 

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WHAT'S NOT. ACCOUNTABILITY AND 

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SUPPORT ARE TWO SIDES OF THE 

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SAME COIN. WE KNOW THAT THE 

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RIGHT DETERRENCE AND THE RIGHT 

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INCENTIVES ARE REQUIRED TO 

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REPATTERN BEHAVIOR, ESPECIALLY 

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IN YOUNG LIVES. AND THESE 

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CONCEPTS AND INVESTMENTS CANNOT 

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BE ANTAGONISTIC TOWARD ONE 

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ANOTHER. WE MUST WORK TOGETHER 

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TO ENSURE WE'RE PROVIDING THE 

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RIGHT RESPONSE AT THE RIGHT TIME

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AND THE RIGHT REFERRALS TO THE 

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RIGHT RESOURCES. AND I AGREE 

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WITH YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. 

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OUR KIDS DESERVE OUR VERY BEST. 

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THEY DESERVE TO BE SAFE. I 

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APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR YOUR 

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ADVOCACY IN THIS SPACE AND FOR 

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BEING VERY PRACTICAL ABOUT 

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IMPROVEMENTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY. 

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WE SHOULD BE DOING WHAT WORKS 

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NEXT. I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, 

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I'VE BEEN A FAN OF COLEAD FROM 

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THE BEGINNING. IT'S IMPORTANT 

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TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT 

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FIRST STABILIZE AND ASSESS NEEDS

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AND THEN HELP NEIGHBORS MOVE 

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INTO INDEPENDENCE AND AUTONOMY. 

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I DO THINK OF HOMELESS RESPONSE 

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AS A CRUCIAL ASPECT OF EMERGENCY

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RESPONSE, AND SO I APPRECIATE 

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THE SUSTAINED FUNDING FOR COLEAD

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AND THE CONTEXT OF A VERY 

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DIFFICULT BUDGET SEASON. NEXT 

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AND THEN FINALLY, JUST A 

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REMINDER THAT THIS INCREASE 

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HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE 

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HERALD ADMINISTRATION. THE 

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PUBLIC HAD LOBBIED FOR THE CITY 

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TO ADD A COST OF LIVING 

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INFLATION, INFLATION FOR HUMAN 

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SERVICES CONTRACTS. BACK IN 

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2019. THREE OF THOSE CONTRACTS 

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HAVE MOVED OVER TO US FROM HSD. 

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AND SO WE'RE INCLUDING THE 3.5%

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INFLATION ADJUSTMENT TO OUR 

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BUDGET. AND THAT IS THE END OF 

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MY REMARKS. I'M HAPPY TO ENGAGE

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IN CONVERSATION OR ANSWER 

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QUESTIONS. 

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-- THANK YOU. CHIEF BARDEN 

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DIRECTOR PENNUCCI DIRECTOR 

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WHITSON, ANYTHING MORE TO ADD 

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HERE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IS 

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EXCUSED FOR PRE PREDETERMINED 

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EXCUSAL FOR THIS AFTERNOON. I'LL

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JUST SAY, LOOKING AT THE SEVEN 

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YEAR LOOK BACK THAT WE USE TO 

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HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC 

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UNDERSTANDING OF OUR BUDGET. 

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WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT THE CARE

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DEPARTMENT'S SECTION IN THE 

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SEVEN YEAR LOOK BACK IS IT IS 

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DIFFERENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE, 

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BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE 

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COULD LOOK AT IT WAS 2021. YEAH.

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SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN ALL 

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OTHER DEPARTMENTS HELD IN THAT 

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SEVEN YEAR LOOK BACK, COLLEAGUES

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FORGOT TO START MY TIMER 

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COLLEAGUES. I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR

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QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT SOME AT THE

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END, AS I USUALLY DO, AND I SEE 

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COUNCIL VICE CHAIR RIVERA HAS 

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HER HAND UP. TAKE IT AWAY. 

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-- THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU 

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ALL FOR BEING HERE. AND I WANT 

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TO SAY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SAY IT

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EARLIER, I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE

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TO HAVE INTERIM CHIEF SAYLES 

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HERE AND REALLY APPRECIATE HIS 

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PARTNERSHIP AND HIS TEAM'S 

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PARTNERSHIP SINCE HE'S BEEN 

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HERE. I MEAN, HE'S HE'S BEEN A

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REALLY GREAT PARTNER. SO I 

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DIDN'T SAY THAT. AND I DIDN'T 

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WANT TO LEFT THAT UNSAID. AGAIN.

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THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. 

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CHIEF BARDEN. I WANT TO ASK 

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ABOUT 911 CALLS IN THE QUALITY 

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OF THE CALLS AND HOW THEY GET 

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DISPATCHED. I HAD A COUPLE 

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INCIDENTS IN THE DISTRICT ABOUT 

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CONSTITUENTS. I MEAN, ONE IN 

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PARTICULAR WAS A DUI AND IT 

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DIDN'T IN WALLINGFORD AND HIT 

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SEVERAL CARS. THEY DIDN'T GET 

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POLICE RESPONSE FOR MANY HOURS. 

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AND IT REALLY HAD TO DO WITH THE

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DISPATCHERS AND NOT POLICE. SO I

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WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE 

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CONSTITUENTS DON'T KNOW THE 

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BEHIND THE SCENES AND THEY'RE 

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LOOKING TO SPD. BUT IF, IF IF 

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SPD DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY

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CAN'T RESPOND. SO CAN YOU 

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ADDRESS THE TRAINING? SOUNDS 

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LIKE THERE'S SOME TRAINING 

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ISSUES FOR 911 CALL TAKERS. AND 

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THEN ALSO I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT 

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THE IMPACTS OF THE REDUCTIONS TO

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THE CALL TAKERS, BECAUSE I THINK

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THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT 

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PIECE. AND AS YOU KNOW, EVERY 

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YEAR I SOUND LIKE A BROKEN 

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RECORD, BUT THE NON-EMERGENCY 

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LINE DOES NOT GET ANSWERED 

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WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF 

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TIME. AND I HEAR A LOT FROM 

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CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE NOT TRYING 

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TO CALL 911 AND TIE UP THE 911 

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CALL LINE, BUT THEN THEY CAN'T 

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GET THROUGH TO ACTUALLY REPORT. 

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AND WE'RE TELLING FOLKS TO 

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REPORT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 

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ACCURATE INFORMATION ON CRIME. 

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IF FOLKS AREN'T REPORTING. 

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-- YEAH, I AGREE WITH 

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EVERYTHING. FIRST, ON THE POINT 

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OF STUDYING WHAT WENT WRONG. I 

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ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC. YOU

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CAN REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY 

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CARE INFO LINE ANYTIME YOU 

434
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WONDER ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, WHY 

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A NON I AGAIN, IT'S USUALLY HOW

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I END MOST DAYS IS IN STUDYING 

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THOSE CALLS. THE DEPUTY CHIEF 

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JOSEPH IS VERY RESPONSIVE ALWAYS

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AND IT'S INTERESTING SOMETIMES 

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IT IS ABSOLUTELY US. SOMETIMES 

441
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MORE INFORMATION WAS BECAME 

442
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UNDERSTOOD AND THE CALL WAS NOT 

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UPDATED. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 

444
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PRIORITY TWO, BUT IT WAS STILL 

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PRIORITY THREE. SOMETIMES IT IS 

446
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PURELY ABOUT STAFFING. IT'S 

447
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ABOUT STAFFING IN THE FIELD. 

448
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WE'VE GOT SUDDENLY 12 PRIORITY 

449
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ONE CALLS COME IN. SOMETIMES THE

450
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CALLER DIDN'T COMMUNICATE WHAT 

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THEY THOUGHT. THEY COMMUNICATED 

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IN A WAY THAT WE UNDERSTOOD IT. 

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SO ALL DIFFERENT THINGS GO 

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WRONG. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING 

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IN THE WORLD TO ME IS THAT 

456
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PEOPLE ASK THAT THEY REPORT IT, 

457
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THAT MY PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS 

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NON-DEFENSIVE ABOUT THAT WE WANT

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TO BE BETTER. AND ANYTIME WE CAN

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CIRCLE BACK AND OWN OUR PART IN 

461
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IT, WHAT WE GOT WRONG. THERE WAS

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A CALL THAT HELD A COUPLE OF 

463
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WEEKS AGO WHEN I LOOKED 16 

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HOURS, 16 HOURS. SOMEBODY WAS 

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WAITING FOR A RESPONSE AND THEY 

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DESERVED A RESPONSE. IT WAS 

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PRIORITY THREE, BUT IT STILL ANY

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911 CALL, YOU WOULD WANT A 

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RESPONSE IN 30 OR 40 MINUTES. 

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EVEN PRIORITY THREE. SO THAT'S 

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THE SHORT STORY ON MY WATCH. 

472
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TRAINING HAS BEEN A TOP 

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PRIORITY. THERE REALLY WAS NOT 

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ANY CONTINUOUS LEARNING 

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IMPROVEMENT. AND LEARNING 

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SCIENCE IS MY ACADEMIC FIELD. I 

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CARE A LOT ABOUT IT. WE HAVE 

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REALLY OVERHAULED THE CALL 

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TAKING ACADEMY. WE'VE GOT OUR 

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FIRST SUPERVISOR ACADEMY, OUR 

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FIRST HANDBOOKS, OUR FIRST 

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POLICY MANUALS SINCE CARE BECAME

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INDEPENDENT. AND SO IT IS A 

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POINT OF PRIDE FOR ME THAT IT'S

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IMPROVING, BUT WE STILL NEED TO 

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BASICALLY BUILD OUT THE 

487
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TECHNOLOGY THAT ANALYZES EVERY 

488
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SINGLE CALL YOU WOULD WANT. WE 

489
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CALL IT CUEING. YOU WOULD WANT 

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TO KNOW ANYTIME THERE'S 

491
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CONSISTENTLY A DEVIATION, EVEN 

492
00:15:25,991 --> 00:15:27,693
IN THE CALL TAKERS TONE, RIGHT? 

493
00:15:27,693 --> 00:15:28,961
THERE'S NO WAY REALLY FOR ME TO

494
00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:30,095
KNOW THAT UNTIL A COMPLAINT 

495
00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:30,729
COMES IN. AND THEN WE GO AND 

496
00:15:30,729 --> 00:15:32,464
PULL THE FOOTAGE AND FIND OUT 

497
00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:34,967
WHAT HAPPENED. SO I JUST WANT TO

498
00:15:34,967 --> 00:15:36,802
VALIDATE THAT. AND THE MAIN 

499
00:15:36,802 --> 00:15:38,137
PRESSURE STILL IS POLICE 

500
00:15:38,137 --> 00:15:41,073
STAFFING. I MEAN, THAT IS 

501
00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:41,707
GENERALLY PROBABLY 80% OF THE 

502
00:15:41,707 --> 00:15:42,975
TIME. WHAT HAPPENED WAS I JUST 

503
00:15:42,975 --> 00:15:45,644
DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES IN

504
00:15:45,644 --> 00:15:47,279
THE FIELD. AND YOU DESERVED 

505
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:50,783
BETTER. AND WE'RE NOT PREPARED 

506
00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:52,251
TO PROVIDE BETTER ON THE 

507
00:15:52,251 --> 00:15:53,585
NON-EMERGENCY HOLD TIMES. WE'RE

508
00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:55,087
ABOUT THREE MINUTES, AND THAT'S

509
00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:56,488
PRETTY REASONABLE. IT'S 

510
00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:58,490
INTERESTING. THERE'S NO NATIONAL

511
00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:00,292
STANDARD FOR NON-EMERGENCY, BUT 

512
00:16:00,292 --> 00:16:01,727
THAT IS SUCH A PRECIPITOUS DROP 

513
00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:02,728
FROM WHEN I ARRIVED. WHEN I 

514
00:16:02,728 --> 00:16:03,862
ARRIVED ON THE WEBSITE, IT WAS 

515
00:16:03,862 --> 00:16:06,031
LIKE, MAYBE WE WON'T ANSWER AT 

516
00:16:06,031 --> 00:16:08,067
ALL. THERE WAS THIS DISCLAIMER. 

517
00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:10,436
AND SO I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH 

518
00:16:10,436 --> 00:16:11,303
THE THREE MINUTES. IDEALLY, 

519
00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:13,739
THERE WOULD BE NO LAG AT ALL, 

520
00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:15,207
BUT A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE 

521
00:16:15,207 --> 00:16:15,908
WE'VE DEVELOPED OUT THE PHONE 

522
00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:17,376
TREE. WE'VE GOT BETTER ONLINE 

523
00:16:17,376 --> 00:16:18,744
REPORTING. AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I 

524
00:16:18,744 --> 00:16:19,578
TALK ABOUT NINE, EIGHT, EIGHT. 

525
00:16:19,578 --> 00:16:21,547
SOME OF THOSE CALLS IMMEDIATELY 

526
00:16:21,547 --> 00:16:22,514
SHOULD GO EITHER TO NINE, EIGHT,

527
00:16:22,514 --> 00:16:25,818
8 OR 2 ONE ONE. IF IT'S JUST A 

528
00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:27,019
RESOURCE THAT'S NEEDED, I'M 

529
00:16:27,019 --> 00:16:28,087
GOING TO BE EVICTED NEXT MONTH. 

530
00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:28,654
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 

531
00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:31,857
THAT'S A 211 CALL. BUT IF MY 

532
00:16:31,857 --> 00:16:33,659
DISPATCHERS DON'T KNOW THAT AND

533
00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:35,160
DON'T HAVE PROTOCOLS TO QUICKLY

534
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,062
REDIRECT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT 

535
00:16:37,062 --> 00:16:38,430
USING THE RESOURCE. WAS THERE 

536
00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:39,498
ANOTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION 

537
00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:39,765
THAT AYE. 

538
00:16:39,765 --> 00:16:41,867
-- SKIPPED, WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE

539
00:16:41,867 --> 00:16:44,236
TO THE, YOU KNOW, YEAH. THESE 

540
00:16:44,236 --> 00:16:45,037
REDUCTIONS. 

541
00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:46,538
-- YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. AND WE 

542
00:16:46,538 --> 00:16:49,141
REALLY LOOKED AT THAT. WE HAVE 

543
00:16:49,141 --> 00:16:50,976
ALWAYS HAD BASICALLY WE PROMOTE 

544
00:16:50,976 --> 00:16:53,078
INTERNALLY. SO D1DT2D3 

545
00:16:53,078 --> 00:16:54,913
SUPERVISOR. AND SO GENERALLY 

546
00:16:54,913 --> 00:16:56,081
THERE ARE VACANCIES AT THE 

547
00:16:56,081 --> 00:16:57,816
BOTTOM. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO 

548
00:16:57,816 --> 00:16:59,351
POLICE STAFFING WHERE WE HAVE A 

549
00:16:59,351 --> 00:17:03,389
TON OF APPLICANTS AND NOT AS 

550
00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:04,490
MANY QUALIFIED TO GET ALL THE 

551
00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:06,025
WAY THROUGH THE ACADEMY. AND 

552
00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:08,293
THEN EVEN ONCE THEY DO, THERE'S,

553
00:17:08,293 --> 00:17:10,062
IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FTO 

554
00:17:10,062 --> 00:17:11,230
PRESSURE. WE BASICALLY THE REAL 

555
00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:12,331
TRAINING STARTS ON THE FLOOR. 

556
00:17:12,331 --> 00:17:13,732
AND SO WE CAN ONLY HIRE 6 TO 8 

557
00:17:13,732 --> 00:17:17,102
AT A TIME. SO I DO THINK IT, I 

558
00:17:17,102 --> 00:17:18,504
ALWAYS WANT FULL STAFFING. I 

559
00:17:18,504 --> 00:17:20,305
DON'T WANT MANDATORY OVERTIME, 

560
00:17:20,305 --> 00:17:21,840
BUT IT'S REASONABLE FROM A 

561
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,975
BUDGET PERSPECTIVE TO ASSUME 

562
00:17:22,975 --> 00:17:24,510
THERE WILL BE EIGHT VACANCIES. 

563
00:17:24,510 --> 00:17:26,745
DESPITE OUR BEST EFFORTS. AND 

564
00:17:26,745 --> 00:17:27,880
IT'S NOT GOING TO OBVIOUSLY, 

565
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,481
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WORSE THAN

566
00:17:29,481 --> 00:17:31,150
IT IS TODAY WITH EIGHT 

567
00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:34,787
VACANCIES, RIGHT? SO 

568
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,121
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. 

569
00:17:36,121 --> 00:17:38,791
I WILL SAY, GOING BACK TO THE 

570
00:17:38,791 --> 00:17:40,426
THE PRIORITY CALLS AND TRAINING 

571
00:17:40,426 --> 00:17:42,194
AND THE NEED FOR TRAINING IN 

572
00:17:42,194 --> 00:17:43,595
THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS WAS A

573
00:17:43,595 --> 00:17:46,732
DUI. AND THE PERSON GOT AWAY, 

574
00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:51,403
THEY LEFT. AND SO AND FIRE 

575
00:17:51,403 --> 00:17:52,671
RESPONDED, BUT SPD DIDN'T. AND 

576
00:17:52,671 --> 00:17:55,707
SO AGAIN, CONSTITUENTS THOUGHT 

577
00:17:55,707 --> 00:17:57,376
SPD WAS NOT DOING THEIR WORK 

578
00:17:57,376 --> 00:17:58,677
WHEN REALLY THEY NEVER GOT 

579
00:17:58,677 --> 00:18:02,181
DISPATCHED. THE PRIORITIZATION 

580
00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:03,549
WAS NOT ACCURATE FOR THE 

581
00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:05,150
DISPATCHER. THAT'S WHY I ASKED 

582
00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:06,185
ABOUT TRAINING. SO I WANTED TO 

583
00:18:06,185 --> 00:18:07,352
SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE

584
00:18:07,352 --> 00:18:09,421
I KNOW CONSTITUENTS ARE 

585
00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:11,223
LISTENING TO THESE PROCEEDINGS. 

586
00:18:11,223 --> 00:18:12,157
-- PLEASE SEND IT TO ME IF YOU 

587
00:18:12,157 --> 00:18:15,260
HAVE THAT ONE. THAT PARTICULAR 

588
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:16,195
INCIDENT IS GOING TO BE 

589
00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:17,196
INTERESTING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 

590
00:18:17,196 --> 00:18:18,630
WE HAVE A SEPARATE FIRE ALARM 

591
00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:19,798
CENTER, SEPARATE DISPATCH 

592
00:18:19,798 --> 00:18:20,899
CENTER. SO IT WILL BE 

593
00:18:20,899 --> 00:18:22,301
INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THE 

594
00:18:22,301 --> 00:18:24,036
BREAKDOWN WAS. BUT I WOULD LIKE 

595
00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:24,736
TO KNOW FROM MYSELF. 

596
00:18:24,736 --> 00:18:26,839
-- WE DID. WE ALWAYS DO REACH 

597
00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:29,107
OUT TO YOUR STAFF. AND WE'VE 

598
00:18:29,107 --> 00:18:30,142
GOTTEN RESPONSES BACK, WHICH IS 

599
00:18:30,142 --> 00:18:31,610
WHY I KNOW THERE'S A TRAINING 

600
00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:33,078
ISSUE AND IT WAS A 

601
00:18:33,078 --> 00:18:34,179
PRIORITIZATION ISSUE. I'M JUST 

602
00:18:34,179 --> 00:18:35,714
BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION IN

603
00:18:35,714 --> 00:18:37,916
THE IN TERMS OF THESE REDUCTIONS

604
00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:39,518
AND WHAT IMPACTS REDUCTIONS ARE 

605
00:18:39,518 --> 00:18:42,287
GOING TO HAVE ON YOUR ABILITY TO

606
00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:43,622
BOTH RESPOND TIMELY AND TO MAKE 

607
00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:46,225
SURE THINGS ARE GETTING 

608
00:18:46,225 --> 00:18:47,659
DISPATCHED TIMELY AS WELL. 

609
00:18:47,659 --> 00:18:49,161
-- I, IF I CAN CLARIFY, THE MAIN

610
00:18:49,161 --> 00:18:51,797
IMPACT WILL JUST BE FINANCIAL. 

611
00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:52,965
WE STAFF THE WAY THAT WE MUST 

612
00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:53,799
STAFF. WE'RE THE ONLY 

613
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,034
DEPARTMENT WITH MANDATORY 

614
00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:57,469
OVERTIME. WE DO DYNAMIC 

615
00:18:57,469 --> 00:18:58,070
STAFFING, MEANING WE KNOW IF 

616
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:59,171
THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EVENT, A

617
00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:01,540
LIKELY SURGE IN CALLS. WE HAVE 

618
00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:03,542
TO BE STAFFED. SO WHEN YOU HAVE 

619
00:19:03,542 --> 00:19:05,477
FEWER DISPATCHERS THAN YOU ARE 

620
00:19:05,477 --> 00:19:07,646
USING MORE VOLUNTARY OVERTIME, 

621
00:19:07,646 --> 00:19:10,148
FIRST, IDEALLY, AND THEN 

622
00:19:10,148 --> 00:19:11,483
MANDATORY OVERTIME, I'M NOT 

623
00:19:11,483 --> 00:19:13,085
GOING TO STAFF LESS. THAT IS NOT

624
00:19:13,085 --> 00:19:15,187
AN OPTION. 

625
00:19:15,187 --> 00:19:17,356
-- SO IS IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO

626
00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:18,891
OT THAN TO RECRUIT FOR THOSE 

627
00:19:18,891 --> 00:19:20,058
EIGHT. AND THEN WHAT WOULD YOU 

628
00:19:20,058 --> 00:19:22,361
HAVE TO DO? BECAUSE I DO 

629
00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:23,028
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN

630
00:19:23,028 --> 00:19:24,429
TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT 

631
00:19:24,429 --> 00:19:25,964
FOR THE POSITIONS AND TRAIN THEM

632
00:19:25,964 --> 00:19:27,733
UP, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO

633
00:19:27,733 --> 00:19:30,736
DO. OTHERWISE, THEN YOU'RE 

634
00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,971
RELYING OVERTIME IS NOT IT'S 

635
00:19:32,971 --> 00:19:33,972
MORE EXPENSIVE, CORRECT? YES. 

636
00:19:33,972 --> 00:19:37,576
YES. CORRECT. AND ALSO, IT'S NOT

637
00:19:37,576 --> 00:19:38,243
ADVANTAGEOUS. YOU'RE OVERWORKING

638
00:19:38,243 --> 00:19:40,145
THE STAFF THAT ARE THERE. 

639
00:19:40,145 --> 00:19:40,412
-- YEAH. 

640
00:19:40,412 --> 00:19:41,880
-- SO RATHER THAN DO REDUCTIONS,

641
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,482
TO ME, IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A 

642
00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:45,918
TRAINING, BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT 

643
00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:48,287
FOLKS THAT ARE CAN DO THE JOB 

644
00:19:48,287 --> 00:19:49,988
AND THEN TRAIN THEM. AND SO I'D

645
00:19:49,988 --> 00:19:51,190
LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. IF

646
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:55,227
NOT HERE LATER. YEAH. THANK YOU.

647
00:19:55,227 --> 00:19:59,097
CHAIR. IF I MAY, I HAVE ANOTHER 

648
00:19:59,097 --> 00:20:01,567
QUESTION RELATED TO LET ME JUST 

649
00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:03,001
LIKE LEVEL SET ON BECAUSE YOU 

650
00:20:03,001 --> 00:20:05,837
BROUGHT UP THE FOCUS DETERRENCE 

651
00:20:05,837 --> 00:20:09,174
PIECE. 

652
00:20:09,174 --> 00:20:09,408
-- YES. 

653
00:20:09,408 --> 00:20:11,310
-- THERE ARE VARIOUS EFFORTS TO 

654
00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:15,614
DEALING WITH GUN VIOLENCE. FOCUS

655
00:20:15,614 --> 00:20:18,684
DETERRENCE IS A, YOU KNOW, A 

656
00:20:18,684 --> 00:20:20,586
SPECIFIC THING. SO I THINK THAT 

657
00:20:20,586 --> 00:20:23,488
MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY, 

658
00:20:23,488 --> 00:20:24,056
PARTICULARLY AS I'VE KEPT 

659
00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:24,990
TALKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL 

660
00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:27,459
NETWORK FOR SAFE COMMUNITIES, 

661
00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:29,194
SAFE DETERRENCE STRATEGY, HAVE 

662
00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:31,063
STARTED TO TALK ABOUT FOCUSED 

663
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:34,766
DETERRENCE, SORT OF AS A ALL 

664
00:20:34,766 --> 00:20:35,434
ENCOMPASSING OTHER THINGS. IT'S

665
00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:38,537
NOT THAT IT IS A VERY SPECIFIC 

666
00:20:38,537 --> 00:20:39,504
STRATEGY, WHICH I KNOW YOU KNOW 

667
00:20:39,504 --> 00:20:40,072
ABOUT, BECAUSE I HEARD AN 

668
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:43,275
INTERVIEW WITH YOU RECENTLY. SO 

669
00:20:43,275 --> 00:20:46,445
IT BASICALLY IS IDENTIFYING THE 

670
00:20:46,445 --> 00:20:49,514
FOLKS THAT ARE ENGAGED WITH GUN 

671
00:20:49,514 --> 00:20:52,317
VIOLENCE, AND YOU HAVE COMMUNITY

672
00:20:52,317 --> 00:20:54,286
WITH SOCIAL SERVICES, WITH LAW 

673
00:20:54,286 --> 00:20:55,854
ENFORCEMENT, POLICE DELIVERING A

674
00:20:55,854 --> 00:20:57,789
MESSAGE. YOU HAVE TO STOP WHAT 

675
00:20:57,789 --> 00:21:00,058
YOU'RE DOING. WHAT DO YOU NEED 

676
00:21:00,058 --> 00:21:00,792
TO STOP? DO YOU NEED A JOB? DO 

677
00:21:00,792 --> 00:21:04,596
YOU NEED HOUSING? WHAT DO YOU 

678
00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:05,197
NEED MAKING A CREDIBLE OFFER 

679
00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:07,899
THAT WE CAN GET YOU THAT AND 

680
00:21:07,899 --> 00:21:09,201
THAT YOU MUST STOP. AND IF YOU 

681
00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:11,036
DON'T, THEN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS 

682
00:21:11,036 --> 00:21:12,904
THERE TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE. 

683
00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:16,174
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO 

684
00:21:16,174 --> 00:21:17,809
CONTINUE TO HAVE YOU ENGAGE IN 

685
00:21:17,809 --> 00:21:19,344
THIS BEHAVIOR. AND THEY GIVE THE

686
00:21:19,344 --> 00:21:21,413
CONSEQUENCE THAT IS FOCUSED 

687
00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:23,382
DETERRENCE. IT INVOLVES ALL 

688
00:21:23,382 --> 00:21:24,216
THOSE PARTNERS. 

689
00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:27,619
-- WE ARE 100% ALIGNED. THAT WAS

690
00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:28,053
NICELY SUMMARIZED. 

691
00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:29,788
-- AND SO MY CONCERN IS WE'RE 

692
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,556
CALLING OTHER EFFORTS THAT 

693
00:21:31,556 --> 00:21:32,624
DON'T INVOLVE THOSE THREE 

694
00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:34,426
PARTNERS, INCLUDING LAW 

695
00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:36,295
ENFORCEMENT. WE'RE CALLING IT 

696
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,463
FOCUSED DETERRENCE. AND THIS IS 

697
00:21:38,463 --> 00:21:39,064
MY CONCERN WITH CONFUSING THE 

698
00:21:39,064 --> 00:21:41,767
PUBLIC BECAUSE IT VERY MUCH ALSO

699
00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:43,835
INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A 

700
00:21:43,835 --> 00:21:45,070
PARTNER. 

701
00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:47,105
-- WE ARE VERY ALIGNED. I AM 

702
00:21:47,105 --> 00:21:48,173
SPENDING A LOT OF HOURS THIS 

703
00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:49,775
WEEK TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE 

704
00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:51,977
DIFFERENCE. AND THAT EARLY 

705
00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:53,679
INTERVENTION, VIOLENCE 

706
00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:54,246
INTERRUPTION AND COMMUNITY 

707
00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:55,280
WITHOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, THESE 

708
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,649
ARE ALL VALID, CRITICALLY NEEDED

709
00:21:57,649 --> 00:21:59,151
IN MY OPINION. DESIGNS, 

710
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:00,686
INVESTMENTS. WE WANT TO MAKE 

711
00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:03,455
MOST OF THE PREVENTION, THE 

712
00:22:03,455 --> 00:22:04,056
INVESTMENTS THAT WE MAKE FOR 

713
00:22:04,056 --> 00:22:06,625
KIDS THAT WE KNOW ARE VULNERABLE

714
00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,126
AND AT RISK. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S

715
00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:09,227
MOVING OVER. THAT IS NOT WHAT 

716
00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:12,030
THE CARE DEPARTMENT IS DOING. I,

717
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:13,465
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TRYING 

718
00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:14,499
TO ARTICULATE THE DIFFERENCE 

719
00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:16,301
HERE. FOCUS DETERRENCE IS WE 

720
00:22:16,301 --> 00:22:17,469
KNOW KIDS ARE ENGAGED. WE KNOW 

721
00:22:17,469 --> 00:22:18,970
AGAIN, I WAS IN THE GUN CALL 

722
00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:23,542
YESTERDAY. I CAN SEE WHAT IS 

723
00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:24,676
HAPPENING, WHAT IS LIKELY TO 

724
00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:26,411
HAPPEN NEXT, WHAT THE 

725
00:22:26,411 --> 00:22:27,045
INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU IS DOING 

726
00:22:27,045 --> 00:22:30,115
ABOUT IT. AND FOCUS DETERRENCE 

727
00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:31,116
IS IT'S VERY COMPLEX TO PULL 

728
00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:33,018
OFF WELL, BECAUSE IT REQUIRES 

729
00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:34,286
THIS TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY

730
00:22:34,286 --> 00:22:34,920
PROVIDERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. 

731
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,622
IT DOES. I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH

732
00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:39,091
PORTLAND. THAT'S WHERE I'M 

733
00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:40,125
FROM, AND I KNOW THAT BUREAU 

734
00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:41,860
REALLY WELL. THE LEADERSHIP AND 

735
00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,729
THEN MY COUNTERPART AND THEY 

736
00:22:43,729 --> 00:22:44,563
HAVE ESTABLISHED REALLY GOOD 

737
00:22:44,563 --> 00:22:46,465
TRUST WHERE IT'S NOT ABOUT 

738
00:22:46,465 --> 00:22:46,932
COMMUNITY DISCLOSING 

739
00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:48,433
INFORMATION, IT'S ABOUT TRUST 

740
00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:49,835
AND THE PROVIDER TO SAY, YOU DO 

741
00:22:49,835 --> 00:22:51,069
NOT NEED TO MAKE AN ARREST. WE 

742
00:22:51,069 --> 00:22:53,071
ARE ON IT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE 

743
00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:55,273
IN THE PROCESS. AND WHEN IT GOES

744
00:22:55,273 --> 00:22:58,076
WELL, IT'S GOING BOTH WAYS. LAW

745
00:22:58,076 --> 00:22:58,577
ENFORCEMENT TRUSTS, THE 

746
00:22:58,577 --> 00:23:00,112
PROVIDERS, THE PROVIDERS TRUST 

747
00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:00,912
LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT'S FOR 

748
00:23:00,912 --> 00:23:03,248
PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED 

749
00:23:03,248 --> 00:23:04,683
IN THE ACTIVITY. AND SO I DO 

750
00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:06,284
THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. I THINK

751
00:23:06,284 --> 00:23:08,487
SPD IS VERY WELL POISED TO DO 

752
00:23:08,487 --> 00:23:11,056
THAT. I WE HAVE TO HAVE AN 

753
00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:12,924
EVALUATIVE PARTNER. YOU AND I 

754
00:23:12,924 --> 00:23:14,626
COMPLETELY AGREE ON THAT. AND I 

755
00:23:14,626 --> 00:23:16,995
ALSO LIKE ALL OF THESE OTHER 

756
00:23:16,995 --> 00:23:17,629
INVESTMENTS WE'RE MAKING IN 

757
00:23:17,629 --> 00:23:19,898
COMMUNITY THAT ARE COMPLETELY 

758
00:23:19,898 --> 00:23:21,900
INDEPENDENT OF ANY LAW 

759
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:22,434
ENFORCEMENT INVOLVEMENT. 

760
00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,269
-- YES, WE ARE DOING AND MAKING,

761
00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:26,705
AND WE HAVE FOR MANY YEARS MANY 

762
00:23:26,705 --> 00:23:27,639
INVESTMENTS ON THE PREVENTION 

763
00:23:27,639 --> 00:23:28,807
SIDE. AND THOSE WOULD CONTINUE. 

764
00:23:28,807 --> 00:23:31,910
WE NEED TO WE WANT WE WE'RE ALL

765
00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:33,278
ALIGNED IN THAT FOCUS. 

766
00:23:33,278 --> 00:23:34,212
DETERRENCE, THOUGH, HOWEVER, IS 

767
00:23:34,212 --> 00:23:37,282
NOT COMMUNITY SAYING, WE GOT 

768
00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:39,384
THIS TO POLICE. IT'S ACTUALLY 

769
00:23:39,384 --> 00:23:40,652
EVERYONE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH 

770
00:23:40,652 --> 00:23:42,754
THAT PERSON AT THE TABLE 

771
00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:44,523
DELIVERING THAT MESSAGE. SO 

772
00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:46,658
COMMUNITIES AT THE TABLE WITH 

773
00:23:46,658 --> 00:23:48,860
THAT PERSON SEARCH, SOCIAL 

774
00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:49,928
SERVICES ARE AT THE TABLE WITH 

775
00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:52,998
THAT PERSON AT THE SAME TIME. 

776
00:23:52,998 --> 00:23:53,598
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT IS 

777
00:23:53,598 --> 00:23:55,233
WHAT FOCUSED DETERRENCE IS. 

778
00:23:55,233 --> 00:23:57,302
IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. 

779
00:23:57,302 --> 00:23:59,371
-- SO I DO UNDERSTAND I'M SORRY

780
00:23:59,371 --> 00:24:00,172
TO CLARIFY. WHAT I MEAN IS 

781
00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:02,674
THERE'S THIS WRAPAROUND 

782
00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:04,142
CONVERSATION WHERE THERE IS 

783
00:24:04,142 --> 00:24:06,511
TRUST ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS 

784
00:24:06,511 --> 00:24:07,345
IN THE SAME ROOM, YOU KNOW, SO 

785
00:24:07,345 --> 00:24:09,581
AGAIN, THIS IS WHY CEASEFIRE IS 

786
00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:10,849
GOING WELL IN A LOT OF CITIES. 

787
00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:12,951
THE CITIES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING 

788
00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:14,019
AT WITH THE PARTNERSHIP, AND I 

789
00:24:14,019 --> 00:24:16,288
TALK A LOT ABOUT THE THE SHARED 

790
00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:19,357
DATA, THAT IT CAN'T JUST BE THE

791
00:24:19,357 --> 00:24:19,858
POLICE SIDE SHOTS FIRED 

792
00:24:19,858 --> 00:24:23,628
HOMICIDES. IT HAS TO BE WHO IS 

793
00:24:23,628 --> 00:24:24,262
ACTUALLY MOVING INTO STABILITY 

794
00:24:24,262 --> 00:24:25,897
AND SAFETY. I'VE LEARNED IN A 

795
00:24:25,897 --> 00:24:27,132
LOT OF CITIES WHERE THIS IS 

796
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,733
GOING. WELL, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE 

797
00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:29,734
RELOCATED. IT'S VERY, VERY HARD

798
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:32,404
TO GET OUT OF A GANG 

799
00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:33,004
PSYCHOLOGICALLY. IT'S VERY 

800
00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:35,974
TERRIFYING. AND SO YOU DO NEED A

801
00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,876
VERY SPECIFIC TEAM AND THE RIGHT

802
00:24:37,876 --> 00:24:39,277
BALANCE OF INCENTIVES AND 

803
00:24:39,277 --> 00:24:40,111
DETERRENCE. AND I DO APPRECIATE,

804
00:24:40,111 --> 00:24:42,347
YOU KNOW, THAT. AND I AM ALIGNED

805
00:24:42,347 --> 00:24:43,515
WITH YOU ON THIS. 

806
00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:45,784
-- RIGHT. AND SO THEN, YOU KNOW 

807
00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:47,085
THAT AND, AND NSC, THE NATIONAL 

808
00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:49,688
NETWORK FOR SAFE COMMUNITIES WAS

809
00:24:49,688 --> 00:24:51,223
ESTABLISHED TO HELP CITIES 

810
00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:52,424
IMPLEMENT THIS. AND THIS IS WHY 

811
00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:55,694
THIS IS WHY I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON

812
00:24:55,694 --> 00:24:59,464
THE NSC EFFORT. I WILL ALSO SAY.

813
00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:03,635
THERE IS THIS, YOU KNOW, ADULT 

814
00:25:03,635 --> 00:25:06,771
VERSUS KIDS WITH COMMITTING 

815
00:25:06,771 --> 00:25:08,206
VIOLENCE. THERE IS VERY MUCH AN 

816
00:25:08,206 --> 00:25:10,141
ADULT COMPONENT THAT SEEMS TO 

817
00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:12,544
GET SKIPPED OVER IN THE 

818
00:25:12,544 --> 00:25:18,750
CONVERSATION SORRY. THE POINT 

819
00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:22,721
I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THIS

820
00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:24,122
ISN'T JUST YOUTH INVOLVEMENT. 

821
00:25:24,122 --> 00:25:26,358
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO 

822
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:26,858
PREVENTION WITH YOUTH. 

823
00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:28,860
ABSOLUTELY. A LONG TIME AGO, I 

824
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,362
WAS INVOLVED WITH YOUTH THEATER 

825
00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:31,830
CARE AND WE DID A LOT OF 

826
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,431
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS TO GET THE 

827
00:25:33,431 --> 00:25:36,768
KIDS ENGAGED AND INVOLVED. AND 

828
00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:39,070
AND THAT WAS PREVENTION EFFORTS 

829
00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:39,704
AND SIMILAR TYPES OF EFFORTS ARE

830
00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:40,972
DONE TODAY. AND LIKE I SAID 

831
00:25:40,972 --> 00:25:42,307
EARLIER, WE FUND ALL OF THAT AT 

832
00:25:42,307 --> 00:25:46,678
THE CITY OF SEATTLE. THAT'S NOT

833
00:25:46,678 --> 00:25:48,380
WHAT THIS IS. AND THERE ARE A 

834
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:49,915
LOT OF ADULTS INVOLVED. AND 

835
00:25:49,915 --> 00:25:51,683
THAT'S ANOTHER POINT OF 

836
00:25:51,683 --> 00:25:53,718
CONFLATION. SO THERE'S 

837
00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:54,286
COMPLETION ABOUT WHAT FOCUS 

838
00:25:54,286 --> 00:25:55,687
DETERRENCE MEANS, AND THERE'S 

839
00:25:55,687 --> 00:25:57,622
COMPLETION ABOUT JUST PUTTING 

840
00:25:57,622 --> 00:25:59,591
ALL THIS ON YOUTH. IT'S NOT ALL

841
00:25:59,591 --> 00:26:00,825
ON YOUTH. THERE ARE A LOT OF 

842
00:26:00,825 --> 00:26:02,294
ADULTS ENGAGED WITH GUN 

843
00:26:02,294 --> 00:26:03,495
VIOLENCE. I WOULD VENTURE TO 

844
00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:04,996
GUESS MOST OF THE PEOPLE 

845
00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,298
INVOLVED ARE INVOLVED WITH THE 

846
00:26:06,298 --> 00:26:08,300
GUN VIOLENCE ON NORTH AURORA AND

847
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,069
TRAFFICKING. THOSE MINOR GIRLS 

848
00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:15,040
ARE ADULTS, NOT CHILDREN. SO I 

849
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,608
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT 

850
00:26:16,608 --> 00:26:19,277
DISTINCTION. AND THIS IS ANOTHER

851
00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:19,844
REASON WHY THIS PARTICULAR 

852
00:26:19,844 --> 00:26:23,248
PARTNERSHIP WITH AND NSC IS 

853
00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:24,249
IMPORTANT. SO I'LL JUST LEAVE 

854
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,152
IT AT THAT. AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP

855
00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:29,087
LATER. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT 

856
00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:30,121
IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE. AND I 

857
00:26:30,121 --> 00:26:34,793
WILL SAY, I UNDERSTAND NOT JUST 

858
00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:36,194
BECAUSE COUNCIL PUT IT INTO THE 

859
00:26:36,194 --> 00:26:37,329
BUDGET LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS ONE

860
00:26:37,329 --> 00:26:39,397
OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 

861
00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:42,367
AUDITOR THAT THE HUMAN SERVICES 

862
00:26:42,367 --> 00:26:44,536
CONTRACTS RELATED TO PREVENTION 

863
00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:46,571
SHOULD MOVE OVER TO CARE. SO IT 

864
00:26:46,571 --> 00:26:48,573
WAS UNDER ONE UMBRELLA OF PUBLIC

865
00:26:48,573 --> 00:26:50,475
SAFETY. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT WHAT

866
00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:51,943
I THAT'S NOT PUBLIC SAFETY. 

867
00:26:51,943 --> 00:26:54,446
THAT'S COMMUNITY SAFETY. AND 

868
00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:58,550
THERE IS THIS ELEMENT OF WE NEED

869
00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:03,588
TO DO THIS PARTICULAR FOCUSED 

870
00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:04,189
DETERRENCE STRATEGY WITH THE 

871
00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:05,924
FOLKS THAT HAVE ALREADY 

872
00:27:05,924 --> 00:27:07,258
COMMITTED THE CRIMES, NOT THE 

873
00:27:07,258 --> 00:27:08,693
ONES WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT. 

874
00:27:08,693 --> 00:27:11,329
RIGHT. THESE ARE FOLKS WHO'VE 

875
00:27:11,329 --> 00:27:12,664
COMMITTED GUN VIOLENCE, WHO ARE 

876
00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:14,299
ENGAGED WITH GUN VIOLENCE. AND 

877
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,734
WE'RE DOING THAT'S WHY IT'S 

878
00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:17,168
CALLED FOCUSED DETERRENCE. WE'RE

879
00:27:17,168 --> 00:27:18,903
FOCUSING ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS, 

880
00:27:18,903 --> 00:27:23,642
WHICH IS A VERY SMALL PART OF 

881
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,610
THE FOLKS ENGAGED IN THE CITY, 

882
00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:27,278
THE FOLKS ENGAGED WITH GUN 

883
00:27:27,278 --> 00:27:29,047
VIOLENCE ARE A VERY SMALL 

884
00:27:29,047 --> 00:27:31,983
PERCENTAGE OF FOLKS IN THE CITY.

885
00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:33,885
SO THAT IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT 

886
00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:37,422
DISTINCTION TO MAKE. AND I 

887
00:27:37,422 --> 00:27:39,357
DON'T. AND THAT'S WHY IN OTHER

888
00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:41,760
CITIES WHO HAVE SEEN REDUCTIONS,

889
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,629
IT HAS WORKED IN THOSE CITIES 

890
00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:46,364
BECAUSE THEY ARE TRULY DOING 

891
00:27:46,364 --> 00:27:48,566
FOCUSED DETERRENCE. THEY'RE NOT

892
00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:49,200
CALLING OTHER PREVENTION EFFORTS

893
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,603
FOCUSED DETERRENCE. SO I'LL JUST

894
00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:53,672
LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. 

895
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:54,072
THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

896
00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:56,908
-- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR RIVERA.

897
00:27:56,908 --> 00:27:57,475
-- JUST ONE. I'M GOING. 

898
00:27:57,475 --> 00:28:00,045
-- I'M SORRY. I'M VERY SORRY. 

899
00:28:00,045 --> 00:28:00,311
-- SORRY. 

900
00:28:00,311 --> 00:28:02,480
-- WE HAVE BEEN IN A STRICT 

901
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,114
FACILITATION MODE THIS MORNING. 

902
00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:05,550
I WAS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE 

903
00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:08,086
RELAXED JUST NOW, BUT I HAVE 

904
00:28:08,086 --> 00:28:09,888
BEEN GIVING VERBAL EITHER 

905
00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:12,323
NON-VERBAL WITH EYE CONTACT AND 

906
00:28:12,323 --> 00:28:14,959
HEAD NODS. I CAME TO AND FOR 

907
00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:16,294
COLLEAGUES I CAME. WHEN I CAME 

908
00:28:16,294 --> 00:28:17,662
TO COUNCIL, THERE WERE PEOPLE 

909
00:28:17,662 --> 00:28:24,569
WHO, IN MY OPINION, WERE NOT AS 

910
00:28:24,569 --> 00:28:25,804
NICE UP HERE. AND THAT IS WHERE 

911
00:28:25,804 --> 00:28:27,605
SOME OF MY STRICTNESS COMES 

912
00:28:27,605 --> 00:28:31,743
FROM. BUT I WAS JUST ABOUT TO 

913
00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:32,877
SAY COMMITTEE TABLE. IF YOU HAVE

914
00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:35,580
ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE, I SEE 

915
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:36,948
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA HAS ONE 

916
00:28:36,948 --> 00:28:37,682
LAST THOUGHT, AND THEN WE'RE 

917
00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:39,851
GOING TO GO TO COMMITTEE TABLE 

918
00:28:39,851 --> 00:28:40,518
FOR LAST COMMENTS IN THIS ZONE. 

919
00:28:40,518 --> 00:28:41,720
AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO MY 

920
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,721
COLLEAGUES. SO THANK YOU FOR 

921
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,656
UNDERSTANDING OF THE 

922
00:28:44,656 --> 00:28:45,323
FACILITATION OF ROBERT'S RULES 

923
00:28:45,323 --> 00:28:46,458
TODAY. APPRECIATE YOU. OVER TO 

924
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:46,925
YOU. 

925
00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:49,060
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR, MY LAST 

926
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:50,528
POINT ACTUALLY WAS THANK YOU FOR

927
00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:52,030
ADDRESSING THE NON CALL TAKER, 

928
00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:53,631
THE THREE MINUTE. THAT'S NOT THE

929
00:28:53,631 --> 00:28:55,333
EXPERIENCE OF THE CONSTITUENTS. 

930
00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:56,868
SO THERE'S A DISCONNECT THERE. 

931
00:28:56,868 --> 00:28:59,938
AND I WOULD LEARN TO I WOULD 

932
00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:01,706
LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHY 

933
00:29:01,706 --> 00:29:02,540
THERE'S THAT DISCONNECT, 

934
00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,976
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW 

935
00:29:04,976 --> 00:29:05,577
CONSTITUENTS HAVE EXPERIENCED 

936
00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:07,345
IT. SO THANK YOU CHAIR. THAT'S 

937
00:29:07,345 --> 00:29:07,545
ALL. 

938
00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:11,649
-- BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TABLE. 

939
00:29:11,649 --> 00:29:12,283
-- I WILL TAKE MORE QUESTIONS. 

940
00:29:12,283 --> 00:29:13,651
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ME 

941
00:29:13,651 --> 00:29:14,886
STARTED ON GUN VIOLENCE. IT 

942
00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:17,789
NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE 

943
00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:18,089
COMMITTEE. 

944
00:29:18,089 --> 00:29:20,191
-- WE'VE GOT ALL AFTERNOON. 

945
00:29:20,191 --> 00:29:23,495
-- OTHER LET'S NOT TAKE IT. ONE

946
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:24,762
INTERESTING NOTE THAT CAME TO 

947
00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:26,231
MIND THAT I DIDN'T MENTION IS 

948
00:29:26,231 --> 00:29:27,899
WHAT I HEAR AROUND THE COUNTRY 

949
00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:29,901
IS THAT THE CARE DEPARTMENT IS 

950
00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:30,435
REALLY DISTINCT AND HAS A 

951
00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:32,370
STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE, AND THAT I 

952
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:34,672
WORK IN WEST PRECINCT. WHERE ALL

953
00:29:34,672 --> 00:29:36,174
JUST BACKGROUND AND I AM REALLY 

954
00:29:36,174 --> 00:29:37,776
PART OF THE SPD RESEARCH AND 

955
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,677
ANALYTICS TEAM, SEEING REAL TIME

956
00:29:39,677 --> 00:29:40,311
WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE'S 

957
00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:42,347
USUALLY A LOT OF INFORMATION 

958
00:29:42,347 --> 00:29:44,382
LAG. AND SO IT WAS JUST A BRIGHT

959
00:29:44,382 --> 00:29:46,651
SPOT. THAT'S ALL FANTASTIC. 

960
00:29:46,651 --> 00:29:48,386
-- WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING 

961
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:49,053
YOU'RE DOING. COLLEAGUES. DO WE

962
00:29:49,053 --> 00:29:50,221
HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I'M 

963
00:29:50,221 --> 00:29:56,427
NOT SEEING HANDS ON ZOOM. NOW IS

964
00:29:56,427 --> 00:29:58,196
THE TIME. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK, 

965
00:29:58,196 --> 00:29:58,596
YOU'RE UP NEXT. 

966
00:29:58,596 --> 00:30:00,999
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR STRAUSS, AND

967
00:30:00,999 --> 00:30:02,133
I'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO 

968
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:04,035
THANK YOU, CHIEF BARDEN, FOR 

969
00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:05,303
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE WORK OF 

970
00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:06,371
THE CARE DEPARTMENT. HUGE THANK 

971
00:30:06,371 --> 00:30:08,173
YOU TO OUR CRISIS CARE 

972
00:30:08,173 --> 00:30:09,174
RESPONDERS IN THE WORK THAT 

973
00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:11,309
THEY'RE DOING, HAVING CRISIS 

974
00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:12,076
CARE RESPONDERS BEING DISPATCHED

975
00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:15,180
FOR MENTAL HEALTH CRISES IS ONE 

976
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:15,814
OF THE FOUNDATIONS OF ENSURING 

977
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:16,848
THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSIFIED 

978
00:30:16,848 --> 00:30:19,050
PUBLIC SAFETY ECOSYSTEM. I'M A 

979
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:19,717
FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE NEED TO 

980
00:30:19,717 --> 00:30:23,121
HAVE QUICK RESPONSES, BUT ALSO 

981
00:30:23,121 --> 00:30:23,688
CORRECT RESPONSES FOR GIVEN 

982
00:30:23,688 --> 00:30:24,789
SCENARIOS. AND SO I WANT TO 

983
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:26,991
UPLIFT THAT TO KIND OF GROUND 

984
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:28,226
THIS CONVERSATION TODAY. AND 

985
00:30:28,226 --> 00:30:29,527
THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW 

986
00:30:29,527 --> 00:30:30,929
PRESENTATION. MY COLLEAGUE, 

987
00:30:30,929 --> 00:30:32,063
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, FOCUSED ON

988
00:30:32,063 --> 00:30:33,498
THE REDUCTIONS FOR THE CALL 

989
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:34,999
TAKER POSITIONS. I WANTED TO 

990
00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:37,035
TAKE US TO THE REDUCTIONS FOR 

991
00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:38,102
THE CRISIS CARE RESPONDER 

992
00:30:38,102 --> 00:30:39,003
POSITIONS AND JUST TALK ABOUT 

993
00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:41,472
THOSE A LITTLE BIT. AND SO 

994
00:30:41,472 --> 00:30:44,108
WONDERING IF I CAN JUST GET AN 

995
00:30:44,108 --> 00:30:44,676
UNDERSTANDING. I UNDERSTAND 

996
00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:46,377
THOSE POSITIONS ARE VACANT RIGHT

997
00:30:46,377 --> 00:30:50,048
NOW. IF I CAN GET AN 

998
00:30:50,048 --> 00:30:51,716
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW LONG THE 

999
00:30:51,716 --> 00:30:54,052
PAUSE ON FILLING THOSE 14 

1000
00:30:54,052 --> 00:30:56,487
VACANCY POSITIONS WILL BE, THAT 

1001
00:30:56,487 --> 00:30:56,855
WOULD BE GREAT. 

1002
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,223
-- YEAH. WHAT'S INTERESTING 

1003
00:30:58,223 --> 00:31:00,692
ABOUT THAT IS I MYSELF AHEAD OF 

1004
00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:03,661
ANY BUDGET CONVERSATION ELECTED 

1005
00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:05,830
TO SLOW DOWN THE HIRING. I 

1006
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:07,432
PRESENTED VERY CANDIDLY ABOUT 

1007
00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:08,833
THE UTILITY DATA IN THE WINTER, 

1008
00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:11,669
BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN 

1009
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:15,006
SPENDING DOLLARS IN A WAY THAT 

1010
00:31:15,006 --> 00:31:17,041
IS NOT THE MOST USEFUL. YOU 

1011
00:31:17,041 --> 00:31:17,742
KNOW, IT'S JUST WHERE I WAS. I 

1012
00:31:17,742 --> 00:31:19,043
FELT LIKE, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE 

1013
00:31:19,043 --> 00:31:20,144
OUT THIS UTILITY. WE'VE GOT TO 

1014
00:31:20,144 --> 00:31:21,946
FIGURE OUT HOW THE CURRENT 

1015
00:31:21,946 --> 00:31:24,182
CONTRACT IS BEING INTERPRETED. 

1016
00:31:24,182 --> 00:31:25,884
WHAT OTHER WAYS CAN WE DEPLOY 

1017
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:28,553
THEM. AND SO I DIDN'T STOP THE 

1018
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,455
HIRING, BUT WE SLOWED. WE HAD 

1019
00:31:30,455 --> 00:31:33,258
PLANNED TO HAVE THESE FOUR 

1020
00:31:33,258 --> 00:31:34,592
COHORTS HIRED QUICKLY THE FIRST 

1021
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:36,094
HALF OF THE YEAR. AND I SAID, 

1022
00:31:36,094 --> 00:31:37,695
LET'S NOT DO THAT. YOU KNOW, 

1023
00:31:37,695 --> 00:31:39,330
LET'S GROW. LET'S GET A COUPLE

1024
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:41,766
MORE COHORTS, REALLY FOCUS ON 

1025
00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:43,401
THE SUPERVISORS AND QUALITY 

1026
00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:44,402
ASSURANCE IN THE FIELD, AND THEN

1027
00:31:44,402 --> 00:31:46,304
START SOME OF THESE OTHER 

1028
00:31:46,304 --> 00:31:48,172
STRATEGIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT. 

1029
00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:51,542
THE NON-EMERGENCY LINE, 

1030
00:31:51,542 --> 00:31:52,043
DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS, 

1031
00:31:52,043 --> 00:31:52,844
CO-LOCATION WITH THE LIBRARIES, 

1032
00:31:52,844 --> 00:31:55,246
THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE DID 

1033
00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:57,849
THAT. THEN THE BUDGET 

1034
00:31:57,849 --> 00:31:58,950
CONVERSATION STARTED AND I 

1035
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:00,652
ALREADY HAD THESE 14 VACANCIES. 

1036
00:32:00,652 --> 00:32:03,288
AND SO I WAS NOT SURPRISED WHEN 

1037
00:32:03,288 --> 00:32:05,156
IT WAS SUGGESTED. LET'S JUST 

1038
00:32:05,156 --> 00:32:07,492
PAUSE. LET'S REALLY FOCUS ON 

1039
00:32:07,492 --> 00:32:08,626
BETTER OPERATIONALIZING THIS 

1040
00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:11,429
TEAM. AND I DO BELIEVE IN MAKING

1041
00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:11,996
INTELLIGENT RECOMMENDATIONS 

1042
00:32:11,996 --> 00:32:15,033
BASED ON THE DATA. I WANT THEM 

1043
00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:16,467
TO BE WELL BEYOND CAPACITY. YOU 

1044
00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:17,635
KNOW, CALLS AROUND THE CLOCK. I 

1045
00:32:17,635 --> 00:32:18,636
WOULD PREFER THEY NOT EVEN 

1046
00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:20,204
REALLY HAVE TIME FOR SORT OF THE

1047
00:32:20,204 --> 00:32:21,506
ON VIEW WORK. THEY'RE DESIGNED 

1048
00:32:21,506 --> 00:32:23,608
TO BE FIRST RESPONDERS, NOT 

1049
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:27,045
OUTREACH WORKERS. MY ASSUMPTION,

1050
00:32:27,045 --> 00:32:28,346
I'VE NOT JUST YOU MIGHT 

1051
00:32:28,346 --> 00:32:29,013
CLARIFY, BUT MY ASSUMPTION WAS 

1052
00:32:29,013 --> 00:32:31,282
THAT IT WAS FOR THIS BUDGET 

1053
00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:32,684
CYCLE. I BELIEVE THAT MAYOR 

1054
00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:34,352
WILSON IS A FIRM BELIEVER IN 

1055
00:32:34,352 --> 00:32:36,020
DIVERSIFIED RESPONSE. I THINK 

1056
00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:37,021
THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A SHARED 

1057
00:32:37,021 --> 00:32:38,923
PRIORITY ACROSS EVERY OFFICE 

1058
00:32:38,923 --> 00:32:40,558
THAT I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW IN 

1059
00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:42,260
OUR AREA. I THINK PEOPLE JUST 

1060
00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:43,394
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID WAS 

1061
00:32:43,394 --> 00:32:45,229
REALLY ARTICULATE, THAT YOU WANT

1062
00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:47,031
THE RIGHT FIRST RESPONSE. AND SO

1063
00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:48,900
THAT IS THE VISION GOING 

1064
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:50,768
FORWARD. BUT I ALSO AM REALLY 

1065
00:32:50,768 --> 00:32:53,104
KEENLY INTERESTED IN USING THE 

1066
00:32:53,104 --> 00:32:55,340
988 SYSTEM THE COUNTY IS MAKING 

1067
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:56,941
SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES IN MOBILE 

1068
00:32:56,941 --> 00:32:58,276
CRISIS RESPONSE. AND SO WE WANT 

1069
00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:00,678
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE 

1070
00:33:00,678 --> 00:33:02,547
REDIRECTING AS APPROPRIATE. 

1071
00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:04,048
-- CHAIR, IF I MAY. PLEASE THANK

1072
00:33:04,048 --> 00:33:05,283
YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. THAT'S 

1073
00:33:05,283 --> 00:33:07,218
HELPFUL. SO HEARING THAT, AND I 

1074
00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:08,319
ACTUALLY WANT TO TURN NEXT TO 

1075
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:09,454
DIRECTOR PENNUCCI JUST TO 

1076
00:33:09,454 --> 00:33:10,955
CONFIRM THAT THE NOTION THAT OUR

1077
00:33:10,955 --> 00:33:12,824
UNDERSTANDING IS HOLDING THESE 

1078
00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:13,825
POSITIONS VACANT, AT LEAST IN 

1079
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:17,061
THE INTERIM FOR THIS PARTICULAR 

1080
00:33:17,061 --> 00:33:17,295
BUDGET. 

1081
00:33:17,295 --> 00:33:18,830
-- THANK YOU. YES, IT IS ASSUMED

1082
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:23,368
TO BE AN ONGOING REDUCTION, AND 

1083
00:33:23,368 --> 00:33:23,968
WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING THE 

1084
00:33:23,968 --> 00:33:26,471
POSITIONS BECAUSE IT IS A SHARED

1085
00:33:26,471 --> 00:33:27,605
PRIORITY FOR THE MAYOR. BUT 

1086
00:33:27,605 --> 00:33:29,007
RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR 

1087
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,541
AVAILABLE RESOURCES, WE DON'T 

1088
00:33:30,541 --> 00:33:32,043
HAVE FUNDING TO SUSTAIN THAT. 

1089
00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:33,177
BUT IT IS, AS CHIEF BARDEN 

1090
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:34,679
MENTIONED, A SHARED PRIORITY. SO

1091
00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:36,347
THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY THINGS 

1092
00:33:36,347 --> 00:33:37,548
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. IF THERE 

1093
00:33:37,548 --> 00:33:39,484
ARE RESOURCES AVAILABLE, WE 

1094
00:33:39,484 --> 00:33:40,885
WOULD WANT TO BRING THE FUNDING 

1095
00:33:40,885 --> 00:33:43,354
BACK FOR THOSE POSITIONS. 

1096
00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:44,689
-- THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT 

1097
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:46,157
RESPONSE. AND JUST ONE 

1098
00:33:46,157 --> 00:33:47,191
ADDITIONAL QUESTION TO THIS 

1099
00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:48,226
POINT. SINCE THERE'S BEEN 

1100
00:33:48,226 --> 00:33:48,860
RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS AROUND, OF 

1101
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,362
COURSE, CHANGES TO HOW WE ARE 

1102
00:33:51,362 --> 00:33:52,029
STRUCTURING OUR CITY'S RESPONSE

1103
00:33:52,029 --> 00:33:53,297
TO GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION. AND 

1104
00:33:53,297 --> 00:33:55,032
THERE IS SOME GREAT DISCOURSE 

1105
00:33:55,032 --> 00:33:57,635
JUST HAPPENING HERE ON FOCUS 

1106
00:33:57,635 --> 00:33:59,737
DETERRENCE. AND SO I'M 

1107
00:33:59,737 --> 00:34:01,239
WONDERING, CHIEF BARDEN, IF YOU 

1108
00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:03,841
CAN JUST SPEAK TO A BIT MORE HOW

1109
00:34:03,841 --> 00:34:05,376
YOU DEFINE CARE'S ROLE IN THE 

1110
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:07,045
MAYOR'S GUN VIOLENCE PLAN, BOTH

1111
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:08,846
FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE 

1112
00:34:08,846 --> 00:34:09,714
PERSPECTIVE WITH THE COORDINATOR

1113
00:34:09,714 --> 00:34:11,349
AND THE GRANTS POSITIONS, BUT 

1114
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:13,351
ALSO FROM AN OPERATIONAL 

1115
00:34:13,351 --> 00:34:13,684
PERSPECTIVE? 

1116
00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:15,286
-- YEAH, I'M VERY ENTHUSIASTIC 

1117
00:34:15,286 --> 00:34:16,788
ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER THE THIRD 

1118
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,890
DIVISION OF CARE, WHICH IS THE 

1119
00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:20,491
COORDINATING ENTITY ACROSS 

1120
00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:21,759
PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

1121
00:34:21,759 --> 00:34:24,061
I'VE TAKEN TO QUOTING CHAIR 

1122
00:34:24,061 --> 00:34:25,830
KETTLE WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE 

1123
00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:28,099
SEEM, IT IS REALLY INTERESTING 

1124
00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:29,500
MOST DAYS. YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY I

1125
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,103
WAS IN, I THINK, SIX DIFFERENT 

1126
00:34:32,103 --> 00:34:32,837
MEETINGS WITH SPD, WITH JAIL 

1127
00:34:32,837 --> 00:34:35,440
HEALTH, AND THEN I WAS IN 

1128
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,507
COMMUNITY LISTENING TO YOUNG 

1129
00:34:36,507 --> 00:34:37,842
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT JUST THEIR 

1130
00:34:37,842 --> 00:34:38,443
EXPERIENCE WITH GUN VIOLENCE. 

1131
00:34:38,443 --> 00:34:39,844
AND SO I GET THIS REALLY 

1132
00:34:39,844 --> 00:34:42,880
INTERESTING INTERSECTIONAL 

1133
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,048
PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT'S WORKING 

1134
00:34:44,048 --> 00:34:46,350
AND WHAT'S NOT. THERE MUST BE 

1135
00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:48,186
STAFF IN THIS CITY FULL TIME 

1136
00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:49,520
DEDICATED TO GUN VIOLENCE 

1137
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,055
REDUCTION. ON THE COMMUNITY 

1138
00:34:51,055 --> 00:34:53,858
SIDE, WORKING TIGHTLY WITH THE 

1139
00:34:53,858 --> 00:34:55,993
SPD SIDE. ALSO, THE 

1140
00:34:55,993 --> 00:34:58,096
PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, JUVENILE 

1141
00:34:58,096 --> 00:34:58,663
DETENTION, DRIVING FORWARD 

1142
00:34:58,663 --> 00:34:59,764
SOLUTIONS THAT WORK. AND SO 

1143
00:34:59,764 --> 00:35:01,232
THAT'S HOW I THINK ABOUT IT. 

1144
00:35:01,232 --> 00:35:02,500
THIRD DIVISION, I DON'T THINK 

1145
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:03,968
THAT WE NEED TO OWN ALL OF THE 

1146
00:35:03,968 --> 00:35:07,038
WORK. I ALSO LIKE TO ARTICULATE 

1147
00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:08,906
THE TEMPORAL NATURE OF CARE, 

1148
00:35:08,906 --> 00:35:09,540
WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT 

1149
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:11,642
RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES. SO 

1150
00:35:11,642 --> 00:35:12,710
THE WAY THAT I THINK ABOUT THE 

1151
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:14,212
LEAD CONTRACTS IS SIMILAR. 

1152
00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:17,148
THAT'S SORT OF OUR USUALLY ONE 

1153
00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:19,851
OF THE LAST CHANCES TO HELP 

1154
00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:22,086
SOMEBODY REDIRECT THEIR LIFE 

1155
00:35:22,086 --> 00:35:23,654
BEFORE THEY GET REALLY IMPACTED 

1156
00:35:23,654 --> 00:35:25,490
BY THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM. SO

1157
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:28,126
LATE STAGE DIVERSION BEFORE 

1158
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,227
COERCION. I SEE US AS THE 

1159
00:35:29,227 --> 00:35:30,361
DIVERSION DEPARTMENT. AND SO 

1160
00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:32,430
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY 

1161
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:33,064
VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION CONTRACTS,

1162
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:35,366
I DO THINK ABOUT INTERVENTION 

1163
00:35:35,366 --> 00:35:36,667
AND INTERRUPTION. WHEN WE KNOW 

1164
00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:38,903
THAT HARM IS HAPPENING IS 

1165
00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:41,305
BEFALLING THE PERSON OR THEY'RE

1166
00:35:41,305 --> 00:35:42,240
CAUSING IT, WE DON'T HAVE THE 

1167
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,241
BANDWIDTH, NOR DO I THINK IT IS.

1168
00:35:43,241 --> 00:35:45,276
IS IT A GOOD DESIGN TO BE 

1169
00:35:45,276 --> 00:35:46,711
UPSTREAM? RIGHT. THE SCHOOL 

1170
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:47,845
BASED SERVICES AND ALL OF THOSE 

1171
00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:49,881
DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT A 

1172
00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:51,449
PERSON SHOULD BE AVAILED AND WE 

1173
00:35:51,449 --> 00:35:53,751
SHOULD BE INTERVENING EARLY AND 

1174
00:35:53,751 --> 00:35:55,987
THOROUGHLY SO THAT WE DON'T WAIT

1175
00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:57,588
UNTIL AN ARREST HAS TO BE MADE. 

1176
00:35:57,588 --> 00:35:59,090
SO THAT'S JUST I KNOW THAT'S 

1177
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,393
PHILOSOPHICAL, BUT THE WAY THAT 

1178
00:36:02,393 --> 00:36:04,262
HSD AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WERE

1179
00:36:04,262 --> 00:36:07,665
PROPOSING TO SORT OF 

1180
00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:09,333
DISAGGREGATE THE WORK, I THINK 

1181
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:11,235
IS VERY INTELLIGENT. YOU KNOW, 

1182
00:36:11,235 --> 00:36:12,703
I'M A FIRST RESPONDER 

1183
00:36:12,703 --> 00:36:13,871
DEPARTMENT. AND SO THAT'S HOW I

1184
00:36:13,871 --> 00:36:14,939
THINK ABOUT WHAT SHOULD MOVE. IS

1185
00:36:14,939 --> 00:36:16,774
THAT HELPFUL? 

1186
00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:18,342
-- AND IF I MAY, CHAIR, JUST AS 

1187
00:36:18,342 --> 00:36:20,845
A FOLLOW UP TO THIS POINT, AND I

1188
00:36:20,845 --> 00:36:21,312
APPRECIATE JUST YOUR 

1189
00:36:21,312 --> 00:36:22,580
PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH ON HOW WE

1190
00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:25,650
HAVE THIS. AND I'M I'M EXCITED

1191
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:27,251
TO SEE KIND OF THE FUNCTIONAL, 

1192
00:36:27,251 --> 00:36:28,886
THE RESTRUCTURING OF FUNCTIONS 

1193
00:36:28,886 --> 00:36:30,955
FOR THE PURPOSES OF DEPLOYING 

1194
00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:32,690
IMPROVED RESPONSE. I'M ACTUALLY

1195
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:35,326
THINKING BACK TO SOMETHING 

1196
00:36:35,326 --> 00:36:35,960
COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH 

1197
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,594
RAISED IN THE LAST SESSION. WE 

1198
00:36:36,594 --> 00:36:37,962
JUST HAD JUST ON KIND OF WHAT 

1199
00:36:37,962 --> 00:36:39,564
ARE THE OUTCOMES WE CAN EXPECT 

1200
00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:40,998
TO SEE FROM THE INVESTMENT IN, 

1201
00:36:40,998 --> 00:36:43,935
PARTICULARLY WITH THIS KIND OF 

1202
00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:44,268
RESTRUCTURE? 

1203
00:36:44,268 --> 00:36:45,303
-- ANOTHER COMMENT I COULD MAKE 

1204
00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:46,704
IS IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH 

1205
00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:47,805
PRECINCT, WHICH I THINK WAS 

1206
00:36:47,805 --> 00:36:50,341
REFERENCED EARLIER, THAT IS THE 

1207
00:36:50,341 --> 00:36:53,611
DESIGN, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT LAW 

1208
00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:54,211
ENFORCEMENT WORKING WITH THE 

1209
00:36:54,211 --> 00:36:55,713
FIVE PRINCIPLES WEEKLY BASIS, 

1210
00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:57,748
AND THEN ALL SORTS OF OTHER 

1211
00:36:57,748 --> 00:37:00,017
CONCERNED PERSONS, RIGHT. 

1212
00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:00,518
PARENTS AND COACHES AND 

1213
00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:01,652
COUNSELORS AND HEALTH CARE 

1214
00:37:01,652 --> 00:37:04,188
PROVIDERS, ALL WITH ONE 

1215
00:37:04,188 --> 00:37:05,189
OBJECTIVE, WHICH IS SAFE, 

1216
00:37:05,189 --> 00:37:07,792
THRIVING COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY

1217
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:11,062
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. AND SO THAT IS

1218
00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:12,396
IT'S NOT EVEN A FORMAL DESIGN. 

1219
00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:14,131
IT'S REALLY JUST THE RIGHT 

1220
00:37:14,131 --> 00:37:15,800
PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT 

1221
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,735
RELATIONSHIPS, ADVANCING THE 

1222
00:37:17,735 --> 00:37:20,104
CONVERSATION. WE DESPERATELY 

1223
00:37:20,104 --> 00:37:21,806
NEED SOMEBODY TO DIRECT AND 

1224
00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:22,807
COORDINATE THE WORK. IT'S WHAT 

1225
00:37:22,807 --> 00:37:24,075
I'M DOING KIND OF INFORMALLY, 

1226
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,443
BUT I DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH 

1227
00:37:25,443 --> 00:37:26,744
TO THINK ABOUT NOTHING ELSE. YOU

1228
00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:28,980
KNOW, I'VE GOT ALL THESE OTHER 

1229
00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:30,314
COMPONENTS OF MY JOB. AND SO I 

1230
00:37:30,314 --> 00:37:31,449
THINK SOMEBODY WHO IS HELPING TO

1231
00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:32,750
DEFINE WHAT IS THE IMPACT WE 

1232
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:35,786
WANT TO SEE IF WE DO THIS WELL, 

1233
00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:36,921
WHAT WOULD THE DATA BE IN THREE 

1234
00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,556
YEARS? WHAT TYPES OF REDUCTIONS 

1235
00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:41,726
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AGAIN? 

1236
00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:42,360
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA ARTICULATED

1237
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,060
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DIFFERENT

1238
00:37:43,060 --> 00:37:45,463
TYPES OF GUN VIOLENCE AND THE 

1239
00:37:45,463 --> 00:37:46,864
STRATEGIES FOR UNDER 25 ARE VERY

1240
00:37:46,864 --> 00:37:48,599
DIFFERENT THAN THE STRATEGIES 

1241
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:49,066
FOR GUN VIOLENCE AND 

1242
00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:50,668
ENCAMPMENTS. BUT WE NEED TO 

1243
00:37:50,668 --> 00:37:52,169
DEFINE WHAT ARE WE FOCUSED ON, 

1244
00:37:52,169 --> 00:37:53,938
WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES AND IS 

1245
00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:57,008
IT WORKING SO WE CAN COURSE 

1246
00:37:57,008 --> 00:37:58,075
CORRECT. IT'S NOT PERFECT MATH.

1247
00:37:58,075 --> 00:38:00,778
YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY IS YOU 

1248
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:01,812
HAVE TO START WITH THE THEORY 

1249
00:38:01,812 --> 00:38:04,682
AND THEN WORK TOWARD IT. AND 

1250
00:38:04,682 --> 00:38:06,384
PORTLAND HAS SEEN IT WAS MOSTLY 

1251
00:38:06,384 --> 00:38:07,385
GANG AND GROUP VIOLENCE THAT 

1252
00:38:07,385 --> 00:38:09,854
THEY WERE EXPERIENCING IN 2023. 

1253
00:38:09,854 --> 00:38:11,489
THAT'S NOW 40% OF THEIR GUN 

1254
00:38:11,489 --> 00:38:13,157
VIOLENCE. IT'S DROPPED 

1255
00:38:13,157 --> 00:38:14,492
PRECIPITOUSLY. AND SO WE NEED TO

1256
00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:16,594
ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF OBJECTIVE

1257
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:18,195
LIKE THAT 

1258
00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:19,697
-- CERTAINLY. THANK YOU FOR 

1259
00:38:19,697 --> 00:38:21,098
THAT, FOR THAT RESPONSE. I KNOW 

1260
00:38:21,098 --> 00:38:21,766
OUR CITY FROM REPORTING OVER THE

1261
00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:24,268
SUMMER, WE HAVE SEEN A DROP IN 

1262
00:38:24,268 --> 00:38:25,302
CRIME. AND SO OF COURSE, WE WANT

1263
00:38:25,302 --> 00:38:27,371
TO BE CONTINUING THAT TREND AND 

1264
00:38:27,371 --> 00:38:28,572
REDUCING CRIME ACROSS THE CITY. 

1265
00:38:28,572 --> 00:38:30,841
AND I THINK BY HAVING A 

1266
00:38:30,841 --> 00:38:32,176
DIVERSIFIED RESPONSE SYSTEM AND 

1267
00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:33,644
USING OUR RESOURCES EFFECTIVELY 

1268
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:35,112
TO DO SO IS IMPORTANT IN BEING 

1269
00:38:35,112 --> 00:38:36,514
ABLE TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN

1270
00:38:36,514 --> 00:38:38,082
EVEN MORE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

1271
00:38:38,082 --> 00:38:39,183
-- THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FROM

1272
00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:41,686
THE COMMITTEE TABLE ON THIS? 

1273
00:38:41,686 --> 00:38:42,987
I'LL GO TO COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

1274
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:43,354
YOU'RE NEXT. 

1275
00:38:43,354 --> 00:38:46,590
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANKS TO 

1276
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:49,226
EVERYONE HERE PRESENTING A FEW, 

1277
00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:52,897
FEW THREADS, ONE EXCITED TO TO 

1278
00:38:52,897 --> 00:38:53,798
HEAR ABOUT ALL THAT COORDINATION

1279
00:38:53,798 --> 00:38:57,301
WORK, ESPECIALLY WITH KING 

1280
00:38:57,301 --> 00:39:00,204
COUNTY JAIL HEALTH. YOU KNOW, 

1281
00:39:00,204 --> 00:39:01,372
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IS NOT HERE

1282
00:39:01,372 --> 00:39:03,207
TODAY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT 

1283
00:39:03,207 --> 00:39:04,709
I KNOW HE'S BEEN WORKING A LOT 

1284
00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:07,144
ON, BOTH ON SORT OF THE FRONT 

1285
00:39:07,144 --> 00:39:08,212
END, THE MEDICAL DECLINES ISSUE,

1286
00:39:08,212 --> 00:39:10,281
BUT ALSO ON THE BACK END IN 

1287
00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:12,149
TERMS OF LIKE PEOPLE BEING 

1288
00:39:12,149 --> 00:39:13,617
RELEASED WITHOUT RESOURCES. AND 

1289
00:39:13,617 --> 00:39:15,219
THE I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS 

1290
00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:17,254
WORKING ON BREAKING THE CYCLE. 

1291
00:39:17,254 --> 00:39:19,857
AND SO VERY EXCITED TO, TO HEAR 

1292
00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:22,159
MORE ABOUT HOW YOU ARE MAKING 

1293
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:23,928
THE MOST USE OF YOUR STAFF TO, 

1294
00:39:23,928 --> 00:39:28,699
TO ADDRESS FOLKS EXITING, JAIL, 

1295
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:30,534
EXITING A HARBORVIEW WHO TOO 

1296
00:39:30,534 --> 00:39:32,703
OFTEN END UP RIGHT BACK AT 12th 

1297
00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:34,305
AND JACKSON NORTH BEACON HILL. I

1298
00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:37,575
SEE SO MANY PEOPLE IN 

1299
00:39:37,575 --> 00:39:40,010
WHEELCHAIRS WITH MEDICAL. WITH 

1300
00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:41,579
HOSPITAL BANS ON THE STREET 

1301
00:39:41,579 --> 00:39:45,149
THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE 

1302
00:39:45,149 --> 00:39:50,488
HAPPY TO HEAR A BIT ABOUT THAT 

1303
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:52,323
WORK. THE OTHER PART THAT YOU 

1304
00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:55,292
MENTIONED WAS SORT OF THE CODE 

1305
00:39:55,292 --> 00:39:57,361
DEPLOYMENT WITH WITH POLICE. YOU

1306
00:39:57,361 --> 00:39:59,764
KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT 

1307
00:39:59,764 --> 00:40:02,700
HOPING TO SEE MORE KIND OF 

1308
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,535
PROACTIVE EFFORTS BY THE CARE 

1309
00:40:04,535 --> 00:40:06,537
DEPARTMENT. AND I WAS SPEAKING 

1310
00:40:06,537 --> 00:40:08,439
WITH WE'VE HAD A EMPHASIS 

1311
00:40:08,439 --> 00:40:12,176
PATROL WITH SPD AND LITTLE 

1312
00:40:12,176 --> 00:40:13,978
SAIGON ALONGSIDE LEAD, OBVIOUSLY

1313
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:15,112
UNDER YOUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 

1314
00:40:15,112 --> 00:40:16,714
AND ONE THING, THE ONE PIECE OF 

1315
00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:19,083
FEEDBACK I HAVE GOTTEN, 

1316
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,651
OBVIOUSLY, THINGS ARE CONTINUE 

1317
00:40:20,651 --> 00:40:25,189
TO BE VERY DIRE. THERE. I HAVE 

1318
00:40:25,189 --> 00:40:26,657
HEARD FROM LEAD THAT ONE 

1319
00:40:26,657 --> 00:40:27,324
POSITIVE THING THAT HAS COME OUT

1320
00:40:27,324 --> 00:40:31,729
OF THE EMPHASIS AND SORT OF THE 

1321
00:40:31,729 --> 00:40:32,229
NEIGHBORHOOD. DEDICATED 

1322
00:40:32,229 --> 00:40:33,497
OFFICERS, IS THAT THEY'VE HAD 

1323
00:40:33,497 --> 00:40:36,934
IMPROVED REFERRALS. AND I THINK 

1324
00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:38,335
THAT COMES ALONG WHEN YOU HAVE, 

1325
00:40:38,335 --> 00:40:41,505
YOU KNOW, OFFICERS THERE EVERY 

1326
00:40:41,505 --> 00:40:42,840
DAY UNDERSTANDING SORT OF THE 

1327
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,376
POPULATION AND THE FOLKS AND 

1328
00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:47,511
ALSO WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH 

1329
00:40:47,511 --> 00:40:48,979
LEAD MORE CLOSELY. AND SO I 

1330
00:40:48,979 --> 00:40:50,748
COULD SEE A STRONG SORT OF 

1331
00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:56,654
BENEFIT WITH WITH CARE FOLKS AS 

1332
00:40:56,654 --> 00:40:57,254
WELL, WITH THAT SORT OF CODE 

1333
00:40:57,254 --> 00:40:57,888
DEPLOYMENT. I JUST WANT TO PAUSE

1334
00:40:57,888 --> 00:41:00,124
THERE, SEE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.

1335
00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:01,025
-- YEAH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT 

1336
00:41:01,025 --> 00:41:02,827
THIS. WE'RE ACTUALLY LAUNCHING 

1337
00:41:02,827 --> 00:41:04,728
THE PILOT IN WEST PRECINCT NEXT 

1338
00:41:04,728 --> 00:41:06,230
FRIDAY. AND THE BASIC IDEA IS 

1339
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:08,833
WE'VE STUDIED THE CRISIS 

1340
00:41:08,833 --> 00:41:10,868
HOTSPOTS AS POLICE STAFFING 

1341
00:41:10,868 --> 00:41:12,403
IMPROVES. AND ALSO CHIEF SAYLES 

1342
00:41:12,403 --> 00:41:13,938
IS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. HE HAS

1343
00:41:13,938 --> 00:41:16,474
A REALLY GOOD GRASP ON 

1344
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,676
NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING, YOU KNOW,

1345
00:41:18,676 --> 00:41:19,810
AND BASICALLY THE FIRST 

1346
00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:20,511
RESPONDERS NEED TO KNOW WHO TO 

1347
00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:23,747
WHO TO HAND OFF TO. SO ANYTIME 

1348
00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:25,015
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS IN AN AREA, 

1349
00:41:25,015 --> 00:41:26,183
IF THE RESPONDERS ARE ALSO IN 

1350
00:41:26,183 --> 00:41:28,719
THE AREA, IT KIND OF SIDESTEPS 

1351
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,620
ANY CONTRACT RESTRICTIONS, 

1352
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:31,922
RIGHT? BECAUSE THE OFFICERS CAN 

1353
00:41:31,922 --> 00:41:33,023
STILL USE THEIR JUDGMENT TO SAY,

1354
00:41:33,023 --> 00:41:35,192
YES, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU GO

1355
00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:37,228
CHECK ON THIS PERSON? SO IT'S 

1356
00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,129
JUST A SIMPLE WORKAROUND. AND I 

1357
00:41:39,129 --> 00:41:41,031
ALSO THINK IT'S GOOD FOR 

1358
00:41:41,031 --> 00:41:41,632
RELATIONSHIP BUILDING. BOTH 

1359
00:41:41,632 --> 00:41:42,533
SIDES NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT 

1360
00:41:42,533 --> 00:41:44,535
THE OTHER SIDE DOES. SO WE'LL 

1361
00:41:44,535 --> 00:41:46,604
DO THAT. WE'VE I'VE TALKED TO 

1362
00:41:46,604 --> 00:41:49,807
CAPTAIN BRITT ABOUT A SIMILAR 

1363
00:41:49,807 --> 00:41:50,307
DESIGN WITH NIGHTLIFE. 

1364
00:41:50,307 --> 00:41:51,075
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH HAS 

1365
00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:51,842
ADVOCATED. AGAIN, WE NEED MORE. 

1366
00:41:51,842 --> 00:41:53,811
WE DELIVER CARE IN THAT 

1367
00:41:53,811 --> 00:41:54,745
NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN HOW HOW 

1368
00:41:54,745 --> 00:41:56,046
ARE THEY WORKING WITH THE POLICE

1369
00:41:56,046 --> 00:41:57,915
AND CARE RESPONDERS SO THAT WE 

1370
00:41:57,915 --> 00:41:59,183
HAVE COVERAGE IN OUR 

1371
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:01,986
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE REALLY 

1372
00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:02,453
CHRONICALLY TROUBLED? 

1373
00:42:02,453 --> 00:42:04,521
-- THANK THANK YOU. AND 

1374
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,991
TRANSITIONING TO GUN VIOLENCE 

1375
00:42:06,991 --> 00:42:08,525
AND IN PARTICULAR, YOUTH GUN 

1376
00:42:08,525 --> 00:42:10,461
VIOLENCE. AND I APPRECIATE THE 

1377
00:42:10,461 --> 00:42:13,330
DISCUSSION. I AM EXCITED FOR THE

1378
00:42:13,330 --> 00:42:14,932
TRANSITION, OVERSEEING THOSE 

1379
00:42:14,932 --> 00:42:16,734
CONTRACTS. BUT I ALSO HAVE SOME 

1380
00:42:16,734 --> 00:42:19,336
SOME CONCERNS, AND I APPRECIATE 

1381
00:42:19,336 --> 00:42:21,238
THE DIALOG, INCLUDING FROM, YOU 

1382
00:42:21,238 --> 00:42:22,206
KNOW, FROM COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.

1383
00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:23,407
AND I DO THINK THERE'S AS I 

1384
00:42:23,407 --> 00:42:24,308
MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK 

1385
00:42:24,308 --> 00:42:26,343
THERE'S A LOT OF ALIGNMENT AND 

1386
00:42:26,343 --> 00:42:28,612
GLAD TO HEAR THAT COMING FROM 

1387
00:42:28,612 --> 00:42:32,349
FROM YOU. CHIEF BARDEN. I MY, MY

1388
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:35,552
SORT OF ONE CAVEAT IS, IS I DO 

1389
00:42:35,552 --> 00:42:36,186
UNDERSTAND FOCUS DETERRENCE IS A

1390
00:42:36,186 --> 00:42:39,123
VERY SPECIFIC MODEL. I'M NOT 

1391
00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:41,859
SURE THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S A

1392
00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:44,094
SPECIFIC PROVIDER. I ABSOLUTELY 

1393
00:42:44,094 --> 00:42:46,130
UNDERSTAND THAT NATIONAL NETWORK

1394
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,898
ARE EXPERTS IN FOCUS, 

1395
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:49,266
DETERRENCE, BUT I DON'T I'LL 

1396
00:42:49,266 --> 00:42:50,301
JUST SORT OF CAVEAT THAT I 

1397
00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:52,603
DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE 

1398
00:42:52,603 --> 00:42:54,104
NATIONAL NETWORK. I VOTED AGAIN 

1399
00:42:54,104 --> 00:42:54,772
IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION. I'M

1400
00:42:54,772 --> 00:42:56,440
HAPPY TO HAVE NATIONAL NETWORK 

1401
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,508
BE OUR CONSULTANT. I DO THINK WE

1402
00:42:57,508 --> 00:42:59,710
NEED A CONSULTANT TO DO THE 

1403
00:42:59,710 --> 00:43:01,078
FOCUS DETERRENCE. AND WHAT I 

1404
00:43:01,078 --> 00:43:04,181
HEARD IS THAT THERE IS BUDGET, 

1405
00:43:04,181 --> 00:43:05,783
THERE IS SOME FUNDING THERE FOR 

1406
00:43:05,783 --> 00:43:09,954
SOME SORT OF CONSULTANT SO BUT 

1407
00:43:09,954 --> 00:43:11,655
ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS 

1408
00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:12,957
JUST ABOUT THE TRANSITION. THERE

1409
00:43:12,957 --> 00:43:17,461
HAS BEEN A LOT OF SORT OF 

1410
00:43:17,461 --> 00:43:18,662
TURMOIL JUST IN TERMS OF A LOT 

1411
00:43:18,662 --> 00:43:23,233
OF OUR INVESTMENTS IN CVI. AND 

1412
00:43:23,233 --> 00:43:23,901
THEN IF WE'RE CHANGING PATHS, 

1413
00:43:23,901 --> 00:43:25,035
LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT 

1414
00:43:25,035 --> 00:43:26,870
WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH

1415
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:29,173
OUR PARTNERS, THEY NEED SOME 

1416
00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:30,741
PREDICTABILITY AND STABILITY. 

1417
00:43:30,741 --> 00:43:32,843
YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN RFP THIS 

1418
00:43:32,843 --> 00:43:34,178
LAST YEAR THAT CAUSED A LOT OF 

1419
00:43:34,178 --> 00:43:35,346
TURMOIL IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY 

1420
00:43:35,346 --> 00:43:36,780
AND DOWN IN THE RAINIER BEACH 

1421
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:38,248
AREA. AND IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE 

1422
00:43:38,248 --> 00:43:38,949
WE'RE BEING REACTIVE AND IN 

1423
00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:41,218
CRISIS MODE. AND SO I'M VERY 

1424
00:43:41,218 --> 00:43:42,853
EXCITED TO AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT

1425
00:43:42,853 --> 00:43:45,289
THIS CONSULTANT CAN HELP US 

1426
00:43:45,289 --> 00:43:46,824
DEVELOP A LONG TERM VISION AND A

1427
00:43:46,824 --> 00:43:47,992
LONG TERM PLAN. BUT THERE'S 

1428
00:43:47,992 --> 00:43:49,393
GOING TO BE A TRANSITION PERIOD 

1429
00:43:49,393 --> 00:43:51,528
AS WELL. AND SO I JUST WANT TO 

1430
00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:53,530
BE VERY MINDFUL AS WE UPDATE 

1431
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:54,765
CONTRACTS, AS WE CHANGE 

1432
00:43:54,765 --> 00:43:57,568
APPROACHES, THAT WE ARE NOT 

1433
00:43:57,568 --> 00:43:59,536
LEAVING OUR PARTNERS. YOU KNOW, 

1434
00:43:59,536 --> 00:44:01,105
IN THE LURCH AS THEY DEVELOP 

1435
00:44:01,105 --> 00:44:02,806
THEIR BUDGETS, AS THEY DEVELOP 

1436
00:44:02,806 --> 00:44:03,807
THEIR STAFFING PLANS. AND SO I 

1437
00:44:03,807 --> 00:44:04,575
JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO 

1438
00:44:04,575 --> 00:44:06,477
HAVE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH 

1439
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:11,015
OUR PARTNERS AS WE SHIFT PIVOT A

1440
00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:13,183
LITTLE BIT IN DIRECTION. 

1441
00:44:13,183 --> 00:44:14,685
-- I AGREE, AND THERE IS NO PLAN

1442
00:44:14,685 --> 00:44:17,021
TO DO ANYTHING ABRUPT OR 

1443
00:44:17,021 --> 00:44:18,622
DIFFERENT. I THINK WHAT I DON'T

1444
00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:20,391
UNDERSTAND WHEN I LOOK AT THE 

1445
00:44:20,391 --> 00:44:21,525
DIFFERENT PROVIDERS IS WHO'S 

1446
00:44:21,525 --> 00:44:23,027
DOING WHAT PART OF THE 

1447
00:44:23,027 --> 00:44:24,495
INTERVENTION. SO AGAIN, WHO IS 

1448
00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,864
REALLY ALREADY DOING THE FOCUSED

1449
00:44:26,864 --> 00:44:28,599
DETERRENCE PART, BUT THEY'RE NOT

1450
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,067
ACTUALLY CONNECTED, YOU KNOW, 

1451
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:31,535
FORMALLY TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT,

1452
00:44:31,535 --> 00:44:33,404
TO THE TO THE MODEL. AND I HAVE 

1453
00:44:33,404 --> 00:44:34,972
NO DOUBT THAT THERE IS FANTASTIC

1454
00:44:34,972 --> 00:44:38,142
WORK BEING DONE ON THE FRONT 

1455
00:44:38,142 --> 00:44:39,677
LINES. AS A CITY, WE NEED TO 

1456
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,145
KNOW HOW TO SUPPORT, PROVIDE 

1457
00:44:41,145 --> 00:44:44,915
TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND BE ABLE TO

1458
00:44:44,915 --> 00:44:45,949
SHARE IMPACT WITH THE PEOPLE IN 

1459
00:44:45,949 --> 00:44:47,718
A BUDGET HEARING, FOR EXAMPLE. 

1460
00:44:47,718 --> 00:44:50,721
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE LEARNED.

1461
00:44:50,721 --> 00:44:52,356
IT'S I'M FROM THE NONPROFIT 

1462
00:44:52,356 --> 00:44:53,490
SECTOR, AND GENERALLY PEOPLE ARE

1463
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:54,658
DOING ALL THAT THEY CAN ON THE 

1464
00:44:54,658 --> 00:44:55,793
FRONT LINES, AND WE NEED TO 

1465
00:44:55,793 --> 00:44:56,794
BETTER SUPPORT THEM IN THAT. SO 

1466
00:44:56,794 --> 00:45:00,064
THANK YOU FOR THE, THE NOTE. 

1467
00:45:00,064 --> 00:45:02,166
-- AND JUST FINALLY, CHAIR. 

1468
00:45:02,166 --> 00:45:03,400
-- I SEE TOMMY HAS SOMETHING TO 

1469
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:03,600
ADD. 

1470
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,201
-- YEAH, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO 

1471
00:45:04,201 --> 00:45:05,002
THAT AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

1472
00:45:05,002 --> 00:45:06,603
THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN 

1473
00:45:06,603 --> 00:45:08,338
CONVERSATIONS WITH HSD ABOUT THE

1474
00:45:08,338 --> 00:45:09,673
PARTICULAR CONTRACTS THAT ARE 

1475
00:45:09,673 --> 00:45:11,241
PROPOSED TO MOVE OVER. WE'VE 

1476
00:45:11,241 --> 00:45:13,877
BEEN DOING ANALYSIS WITH THEM 

1477
00:45:13,877 --> 00:45:14,511
AND GETTING UPDATES ABOUT WHAT 

1478
00:45:14,511 --> 00:45:15,312
HSD HAS BEEN DOING AND 

1479
00:45:15,312 --> 00:45:18,048
TRANSITION EFFORTS WITH THEM. SO

1480
00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:18,682
WE'VE ALREADY PUT THAT PLAN 

1481
00:45:18,682 --> 00:45:20,484
TOGETHER AND WE'LL BE WORKING 

1482
00:45:20,484 --> 00:45:22,619
WITH THEM. THE PROVIDERS CAN 

1483
00:45:22,619 --> 00:45:23,187
EXPECT THAT CARE DEPARTMENT 

1484
00:45:23,187 --> 00:45:23,854
PERSONNEL, INCLUDING THE CHIEF, 

1485
00:45:23,854 --> 00:45:24,922
WILL BE REACHING OUT OVER THE 

1486
00:45:24,922 --> 00:45:25,923
NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS SO THAT WE 

1487
00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:27,591
CAN GET EVERYTHING FINALIZED AND

1488
00:45:27,591 --> 00:45:29,460
NEW CONTRACTS UP TO DATE BEFORE 

1489
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:31,295
JANUARY. 

1490
00:45:31,295 --> 00:45:33,197
-- OKAY, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. 

1491
00:45:33,197 --> 00:45:36,133
JUST ONE FINAL, AND I SEE 

1492
00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:37,234
DIRECTOR HOLCOMB HERE AS WELL. 

1493
00:45:37,234 --> 00:45:39,703
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. AND I 

1494
00:45:39,703 --> 00:45:41,438
JUST ONE SORT OF QUESTION. 

1495
00:45:41,438 --> 00:45:44,108
CONCERN IS, I MEAN, YOU'LL BE 

1496
00:45:44,108 --> 00:45:44,708
OVERSEEING THE CONTRACTS WITH 

1497
00:45:44,708 --> 00:45:47,578
OUR SOME OF OUR PROVIDERS. 

1498
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:49,346
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE TO

1499
00:45:49,346 --> 00:45:50,614
THIS WORK. YOU KNOW. SPD. I 

1500
00:45:50,614 --> 00:45:52,149
MEAN, YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T 

1501
00:45:52,149 --> 00:45:54,685
SUPERVISE. SPD. RIGHT. AND AND 

1502
00:45:54,685 --> 00:45:55,986
SO, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, 

1503
00:45:55,986 --> 00:45:57,621
THERE'S A LOT OF COLLABORATION 

1504
00:45:57,621 --> 00:45:58,222
AND COORDINATION THAT HAS TO 

1505
00:45:58,222 --> 00:46:00,157
HAPPEN IN. YOU'RE DEALING WITH 

1506
00:46:00,157 --> 00:46:01,058
911 CALLS. AND SO YOU'RE GOING 

1507
00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:02,993
TO BE STRETCHED THIN, BUT I 

1508
00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:06,230
GUESS PARTIALLY LIKE, HOW DO WE 

1509
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:09,733
MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE 

1510
00:46:09,733 --> 00:46:10,367
COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION 

1511
00:46:10,367 --> 00:46:12,970
WITH KIND OF YOU AS ONE 

1512
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:15,105
DEPARTMENT WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE 

1513
00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:16,273
TALKED EARLIER ABOUT LIKE SOME 

1514
00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:18,142
PEOPLE MIGHT NEED TO BE 

1515
00:46:18,142 --> 00:46:18,809
RELOCATED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO 

1516
00:46:18,809 --> 00:46:19,977
BE RELOCATING PEOPLE. THAT'S 

1517
00:46:19,977 --> 00:46:21,111
GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 

1518
00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:22,913
IT'S OUR, OUR NONPROFIT 

1519
00:46:22,913 --> 00:46:25,082
PARTNERS, MAYBE IT'S WORKING 

1520
00:46:25,082 --> 00:46:26,383
WITH OUR HOUSING PARTNERS. LIKE,

1521
00:46:26,383 --> 00:46:28,018
HOW CAN YOU DO THAT? WHAT 

1522
00:46:28,018 --> 00:46:29,620
SUPPORT DO YOU NEED FROM THE 

1523
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:32,422
MAYOR'S OFFICE OR FROM US 

1524
00:46:32,422 --> 00:46:34,091
COUNCIL TO, TO SUPPORT, YOU 

1525
00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:35,192
KNOW, HELP FROM OTHER 

1526
00:46:35,192 --> 00:46:36,793
DEPARTMENTS, OTHER AGENCIES, 

1527
00:46:36,793 --> 00:46:38,562
WHETHER IT'S KING COUNTY OFFICE

1528
00:46:38,562 --> 00:46:40,631
OF REGIONAL GUN VIOLENCE 

1529
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:41,899
PREVENTION THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF 

1530
00:46:41,899 --> 00:46:44,134
YOUR PURVIEW. 

1531
00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:45,702
-- YEAH. AGAIN, HIRING THAT 

1532
00:46:45,702 --> 00:46:47,304
DIRECTOR POSITION IS TOP 

1533
00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:48,005
PRIORITY. THAT'S ALREADY WE WERE

1534
00:46:48,005 --> 00:46:51,108
WORKING ON THE PDX'S BECAUSE 

1535
00:46:51,108 --> 00:46:52,309
THE MONEY IS THERE BASICALLY AS 

1536
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:53,410
FAST AS WE CAN HIRE FOR IT, AND 

1537
00:46:53,410 --> 00:46:54,845
WE WILL. THAT IS A CRITICAL 

1538
00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:56,480
HIRE. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT 

1539
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,850
THAT IS THE RIGHT PERSON WHO IS 

1540
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:00,484
AN OUTSTANDING COLLABORATOR AND 

1541
00:47:00,484 --> 00:47:01,118
UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE A CITY 

1542
00:47:01,118 --> 00:47:02,986
SITTING IN A COUNTY WITH A LOT 

1543
00:47:02,986 --> 00:47:05,322
OF RESOURCES, SITTING INSIDE A 

1544
00:47:05,322 --> 00:47:06,857
STATE, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN A 

1545
00:47:06,857 --> 00:47:09,092
NATIONAL LEGAL AND POLICY 

1546
00:47:09,092 --> 00:47:13,463
SYSTEM. AND SO I THINK AS WE GET

1547
00:47:13,463 --> 00:47:13,964
THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE 

1548
00:47:13,964 --> 00:47:16,433
CONVERSATION TO ILLUMINATE WHERE

1549
00:47:16,433 --> 00:47:18,669
ARE THERE GAPS, I DON'T KNOW, 

1550
00:47:18,669 --> 00:47:19,670
TODAY, COUNCILMEMBER, YOU KNOW, 

1551
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:21,038
I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT 

1552
00:47:21,038 --> 00:47:23,073
PIECES ARE IN PLACE. DO WE HAVE 

1553
00:47:23,073 --> 00:47:25,475
A, A SWIFT RELOCATION EXIT 

1554
00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:27,277
STRATEGY? I THINK ABOUT HUMAN 

1555
00:47:27,277 --> 00:47:29,613
TRAFFICKING IN THE SAME WAY 

1556
00:47:29,613 --> 00:47:31,481
WHERE IT'S JUST SPECIFICALLY 

1557
00:47:31,481 --> 00:47:32,115
PSYCHOLOGICALLY COMPLEX AND YOU 

1558
00:47:32,115 --> 00:47:32,749
NEED A WHOLE BUNCH OF SUPPORTS 

1559
00:47:32,749 --> 00:47:34,952
AND YOU NEED THEM AT THE READY. 

1560
00:47:34,952 --> 00:47:35,886
SO I'M SURE THAT WE WILL BE 

1561
00:47:35,886 --> 00:47:38,488
HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS 

1562
00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:39,990
ABOUT THIS, BUT I AGREE WITH THE

1563
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:42,726
NEED FOR A TECHNICAL EVALUATIVE 

1564
00:47:42,726 --> 00:47:43,727
PARTNER BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT 

1565
00:47:43,727 --> 00:47:46,330
OF CITIES DOING THIS WELL. AND 

1566
00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:47,598
IT IS LIKE THE CARE PILOT THAT 

1567
00:47:47,598 --> 00:47:48,865
JUST TOOK ME A FEW MONTHS TO 

1568
00:47:48,865 --> 00:47:50,300
LIFT OFF BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO 

1569
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:51,401
LOOK AT THE NATIONAL LANDSCAPE, 

1570
00:47:51,401 --> 00:47:52,836
HAVE CANDID CONVERSATIONS WITH A

1571
00:47:52,836 --> 00:47:54,638
BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO SHARED WITH 

1572
00:47:54,638 --> 00:47:55,372
ME NOT JUST WHAT WAS GOING WELL,

1573
00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:58,208
BUT WHAT NOT TO DO. AND THEN WE 

1574
00:47:58,208 --> 00:47:59,042
PUT PEN TO PAPER AND GOT IT 

1575
00:47:59,042 --> 00:48:00,444
GOING, AND WE CAN DO THE SAME 

1576
00:48:00,444 --> 00:48:02,246
THING HERE. 

1577
00:48:02,246 --> 00:48:02,579
-- THANK YOU. 

1578
00:48:02,579 --> 00:48:04,381
-- CHAIR, THANK YOU, 

1579
00:48:04,381 --> 00:48:06,350
COUNCILMEMBER LIN. WE'VE GOT 

1580
00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:07,784
COUNCIL PRESIDENT NEXT. 

1581
00:48:07,784 --> 00:48:09,953
-- THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU, 

1582
00:48:09,953 --> 00:48:12,956
CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE. AND JUST 

1583
00:48:12,956 --> 00:48:15,225
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION

1584
00:48:15,225 --> 00:48:16,627
TO DETAIL AND YOUR WILLINGNESS 

1585
00:48:16,627 --> 00:48:17,394
TO WORK IN COLLABORATION THAT 

1586
00:48:17,394 --> 00:48:19,162
WE'VE WE'VE HAD, ESPECIALLY 

1587
00:48:19,162 --> 00:48:20,130
WITH CAPITOL HILL, PIKE, PINE, 

1588
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:24,701
AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HAVING 

1589
00:48:24,701 --> 00:48:27,170
MORE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND FOR 

1590
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:29,706
VIOLENCE, AND CORRUPTION AND 

1591
00:48:29,706 --> 00:48:31,708
VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS. AND I 

1592
00:48:31,708 --> 00:48:32,342
KNOW THAT THAT IS A IS A PROGRAM

1593
00:48:32,342 --> 00:48:33,577
THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO 

1594
00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:34,177
FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT ARE THE 

1595
00:48:34,177 --> 00:48:35,045
NEXT STEPS? WHAT DO THEY LOOK 

1596
00:48:35,045 --> 00:48:36,947
LIKE? SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR 

1597
00:48:36,947 --> 00:48:38,448
PARTNERSHIP AND YOUR 

1598
00:48:38,448 --> 00:48:39,082
DEPARTMENT'S PARTNERSHIP ON 

1599
00:48:39,082 --> 00:48:39,783
THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT

1600
00:48:39,783 --> 00:48:41,418
IT FOR A LONG TIME. AND SO JUST 

1601
00:48:41,418 --> 00:48:42,920
HAPPY TO GET THAT GOING. ONE 

1602
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,988
THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND

1603
00:48:44,988 --> 00:48:47,324
I SHARED THIS WITH SPD AND WE'LL

1604
00:48:47,324 --> 00:48:51,094
TALK OFFLINE, CHIEF, IS TO BE 

1605
00:48:51,094 --> 00:48:54,031
ABLE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND MORE 

1606
00:48:54,031 --> 00:48:56,566
OF LEAD IN THE SENSE THAT. AND 

1607
00:48:56,566 --> 00:48:57,968
COULD YOU GUYS GO BACK TO THE 

1608
00:48:57,968 --> 00:49:00,904
LEAD INVESTMENT PIECE, THE. 

1609
00:49:00,904 --> 00:49:05,642
THANK YOU. THE FUNDING PROPOSAL.

1610
00:49:05,642 --> 00:49:08,111
THANK YOU. AND COLEAD AND I 

1611
00:49:08,111 --> 00:49:09,780
THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR 

1612
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:12,049
ME, BECAUSE I'M TWO AND A HALF 

1613
00:49:12,049 --> 00:49:13,050
YEARS IN, I UNDERSTAND THE 

1614
00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:14,751
CONCEPT, THE TALKING POINTS. I 

1615
00:49:14,751 --> 00:49:17,020
UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. THE ONE 

1616
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:18,455
THING THAT I'M STILL STRUGGLING

1617
00:49:18,455 --> 00:49:20,958
WITH ARE THE KEY PERFORMANCE 

1618
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:23,560
INDEX, THE KPIS OF LEAD TO 

1619
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,728
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE IMPACT. 

1620
00:49:24,728 --> 00:49:26,330
AND I KNOW I'VE HEARD ALL THE 

1621
00:49:26,330 --> 00:49:28,098
STORIES AND THE PEOPLE, BUT HOW 

1622
00:49:28,098 --> 00:49:30,667
THAT FITS WITHIN OUR MODEL, 

1623
00:49:30,667 --> 00:49:33,837
BECAUSE I CAN TELL WHEN YOU ALL 

1624
00:49:33,837 --> 00:49:35,739
PUT THE CHART UP ABOUT 911 DATA 

1625
00:49:35,739 --> 00:49:38,208
IN TERMS OF CALL TIME, I CAN SEE

1626
00:49:38,208 --> 00:49:38,709
THE INVESTMENT AND THE 

1627
00:49:38,709 --> 00:49:40,777
IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S MADE WITH US

1628
00:49:40,777 --> 00:49:42,813
SAYING THESE INVESTMENTS FOR 

1629
00:49:42,813 --> 00:49:45,482
THESE PEOPLE HAVE CREATED 

1630
00:49:45,482 --> 00:49:46,483
SHORTER WAIT TIMES FOR PEOPLE 

1631
00:49:46,483 --> 00:49:48,118
GETTING SOMEONE. NOW, WE DON'T 

1632
00:49:48,118 --> 00:49:48,952
KNOW ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES. 

1633
00:49:48,952 --> 00:49:50,520
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU ALL DO. BUT

1634
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,356
JUST TO COLLECT THAT DATA 

1635
00:49:52,356 --> 00:49:53,590
INFORMATION, I'M ABLE TO 

1636
00:49:53,590 --> 00:49:54,891
LITERALLY SEE THAT RIGHT IN 

1637
00:49:54,891 --> 00:49:57,027
FRONT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF YOUR

1638
00:49:57,027 --> 00:49:58,996
KPIS. AND SO THAT WOULD BE SUPER

1639
00:49:58,996 --> 00:50:01,031
HELPFUL AND IMPORTANT. AND I 

1640
00:50:01,031 --> 00:50:04,134
THINK THIS IS A BIGGER QUESTION,

1641
00:50:04,134 --> 00:50:04,868
AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT A 

1642
00:50:04,868 --> 00:50:07,170
QUESTION THAT'S MORE OF A 

1643
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:08,805
STATEMENT IS WHEN WE, THE CITY, 

1644
00:50:08,805 --> 00:50:11,375
ARE FIGURING OUT OUR SAFETY PLAN

1645
00:50:11,375 --> 00:50:14,444
AND OUR CONTRACTORS, US HAVING 

1646
00:50:14,444 --> 00:50:15,779
THE SAME METRICS SO WE CAN 

1647
00:50:15,779 --> 00:50:17,848
UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE MAKING 

1648
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:18,382
THESE INVESTMENTS OR AYE 

1649
00:50:18,382 --> 00:50:19,016
DEPARTMENTS COMING HERE AND 

1650
00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:20,183
SAYING, THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY 

1651
00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:21,284
WE'RE POURING INTO HOUSING, 

1652
00:50:21,284 --> 00:50:23,186
THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE 

1653
00:50:23,186 --> 00:50:24,054
POURING INTO PREVENTION, 

1654
00:50:24,054 --> 00:50:24,955
INTERVENTION, AND FOR WHATEVER 

1655
00:50:24,955 --> 00:50:27,824
IT IS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE 

1656
00:50:27,824 --> 00:50:30,260
WHAT THOSE OUTCOMES ARE. AND I 

1657
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:31,795
THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 

1658
00:50:31,795 --> 00:50:34,431
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, I REALLY 

1659
00:50:34,431 --> 00:50:34,965
APPRECIATE THE CALL TIME 

1660
00:50:34,965 --> 00:50:37,601
RESPONSE. WE CAN SEE THAT. AND 

1661
00:50:37,601 --> 00:50:39,503
THEN ALSO FOR THE COLEAD 

1662
00:50:39,503 --> 00:50:40,103
INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN 

1663
00:50:40,103 --> 00:50:41,204
DOING, STRONG BELIEVER IN 

1664
00:50:41,204 --> 00:50:43,140
COLEAD. I JUST WANT SOME KPIS SO

1665
00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:45,909
I CAN BE ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR 

1666
00:50:45,909 --> 00:50:47,177
THE PROGRAM OR ABLE TO 

1667
00:50:47,177 --> 00:50:48,545
ARTICULATE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE 

1668
00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:51,114
ABOUT THE IMPACT. THE LAST 

1669
00:50:51,114 --> 00:50:52,249
THING, AND THIS IS MORE OF A 

1670
00:50:52,249 --> 00:50:54,484
QUESTION, THE CONTRACTS THAT 

1671
00:50:54,484 --> 00:50:56,153
HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED, 

1672
00:50:56,153 --> 00:50:59,589
TRANSFERRED TO YOU OR JUST THAT 

1673
00:50:59,589 --> 00:51:00,157
NEW RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU 

1674
00:51:00,157 --> 00:51:00,791
HAVE, AND YOU ALL ARE GOING TO 

1675
00:51:00,791 --> 00:51:02,959
BE STRETCHED THIN. I'VE TALKED 

1676
00:51:02,959 --> 00:51:04,127
ABOUT IT BEFORE. WE HAVE 

1677
00:51:04,127 --> 00:51:06,730
PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND 

1678
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:09,132
ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S HOW I'M 

1679
00:51:09,132 --> 00:51:11,301
ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK UP 

1680
00:51:11,301 --> 00:51:13,270
PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THAT'S 

1681
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:14,471
ACTUALLY NOT MINE. THAT'S CHERYL

1682
00:51:14,471 --> 00:51:15,705
PARKER FROM PHILADELPHIA, THE 

1683
00:51:15,705 --> 00:51:17,007
MAYOR. SO I GOT TO GIVE HER 

1684
00:51:17,007 --> 00:51:18,141
CREDIT. THAT WAS HER THING WHEN 

1685
00:51:18,141 --> 00:51:19,543
SHE CAME ON AND RAN AND TALKED 

1686
00:51:19,543 --> 00:51:22,879
ABOUT PREVENTION, INTERVENTION 

1687
00:51:22,879 --> 00:51:24,881
AND ENFORCEMENT. AND THE ONE 

1688
00:51:24,881 --> 00:51:25,982
THING I WANTED TO KNOW, THE 

1689
00:51:25,982 --> 00:51:27,551
CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED,

1690
00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:30,153
SO I SO LET ME JUST SAY THIS FOR

1691
00:51:30,153 --> 00:51:32,189
PREVENTION. I THINK IT IS AFTER 

1692
00:51:32,189 --> 00:51:34,057
SCHOOL PROGRAMS, PIANO LESSON 

1693
00:51:34,057 --> 00:51:36,359
CAMP, MENTAL HEALTH, MORE THINGS

1694
00:51:36,359 --> 00:51:37,861
YOU KNOW AS WELL. THE 

1695
00:51:37,861 --> 00:51:39,096
INTERVENTION, I THINK, IS 

1696
00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:41,832
SOMETHING AS LIKE LEAD ALSO 

1697
00:51:41,832 --> 00:51:44,901
THINK OF SOMETHING AS THE 

1698
00:51:44,901 --> 00:51:46,136
VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS 

1699
00:51:46,136 --> 00:51:46,736
INTERRUPTERS THAT ARE ON THE 

1700
00:51:46,736 --> 00:51:47,838
GROUND. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE 

1701
00:51:47,838 --> 00:51:52,175
ENFORCEMENT IS THE SPD AND 911, 

1702
00:51:52,175 --> 00:51:54,010
THE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN 

1703
00:51:54,010 --> 00:51:55,345
TRANSFERRED AND SHIFTED TO YOU. 

1704
00:51:55,345 --> 00:51:56,446
WHERE ARE THEY ON THAT PIE 

1705
00:51:56,446 --> 00:51:57,814
CHART? ARE THEY THE PEOPLE THAT 

1706
00:51:57,814 --> 00:51:59,249
ARE DOING THE INTERVENTION? IS 

1707
00:51:59,249 --> 00:52:02,419
IT PREVENTION? LIKE, HELP ME 

1708
00:52:02,419 --> 00:52:03,954
UNDERSTAND WHEN THOSE CONTRACTS,

1709
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:06,123
WHERE DOES THAT LAND IN THAT 

1710
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:06,423
ECOSYSTEM? 

1711
00:52:06,423 --> 00:52:08,592
-- YEAH, THEY WILL ACTUALLY MOVE

1712
00:52:08,592 --> 00:52:10,627
JANUARY 1st. AND SO I HAVE JUST 

1713
00:52:10,627 --> 00:52:12,762
HAD MY FIRST LOOK AT THEM THIS 

1714
00:52:12,762 --> 00:52:14,231
WEEK. THEY'RE ORGANIZATIONS 

1715
00:52:14,231 --> 00:52:15,632
I'M FAMILIAR WITH AND I ADMIRE 

1716
00:52:15,632 --> 00:52:17,767
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S 180

1717
00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:21,037
IS, BUT I WOULD RELY ON AND 

1718
00:52:21,037 --> 00:52:22,372
DEFER YOU TO HSD BECAUSE THEY 

1719
00:52:22,372 --> 00:52:23,507
REALLY DID THE ANALYSIS. LOOKING

1720
00:52:23,507 --> 00:52:25,642
AT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS 

1721
00:52:25,642 --> 00:52:27,277
PREVENTATIVE? WHAT IS UPSTREAM? 

1722
00:52:27,277 --> 00:52:28,979
THAT'S REALLY A HUMAN SERVICE 

1723
00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:31,815
DEPARTMENT INVESTMENT OR A DEAL 

1724
00:52:31,815 --> 00:52:32,315
INVESTMENT. WHAT DID WE 

1725
00:52:32,315 --> 00:52:34,317
CONSIDER? I WOULD SAY LATE STAGE

1726
00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:35,685
INTERVENTION, YOU KNOW, MEANING 

1727
00:52:35,685 --> 00:52:36,887
THERE'S SOME FORMALITY TO THIS.

1728
00:52:36,887 --> 00:52:38,755
WE NEED AN ACTUAL PLAN FOR THIS 

1729
00:52:38,755 --> 00:52:41,191
PERSON. THIS IS NOT GOING WELL. 

1730
00:52:41,191 --> 00:52:42,959
AND HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY WRAP 

1731
00:52:42,959 --> 00:52:44,561
SUPPORT AROUND? I KEEP SAYING 

1732
00:52:44,561 --> 00:52:45,662
KIDS BECAUSE IT'S JUST MY 

1733
00:52:45,662 --> 00:52:48,098
BACKGROUND. I'M MORE FAMILIAR 

1734
00:52:48,098 --> 00:52:50,100
WITH THE 25 AND YOUNGER BRAIN. 

1735
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,868
AND TO AFFIRM WHAT YOU JUST 

1736
00:52:51,868 --> 00:52:52,302
SAID, COUNCILMEMBER 

1737
00:52:52,302 --> 00:52:53,503
HOLLINGSWORTH COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

1738
00:52:53,503 --> 00:52:55,805
IT IS SO OFTEN THE PROTECTIVE 

1739
00:52:55,805 --> 00:52:57,641
FACTORS ARE ACCESS TO 

1740
00:52:57,641 --> 00:52:59,109
EMPLOYMENT, ACCESS TO A MENTOR, 

1741
00:52:59,109 --> 00:53:00,544
ACCESS TO A PLACE TO BE. ON 

1742
00:53:00,544 --> 00:53:02,012
FRIDAY NIGHT AT 10 P.M., SPORTS 

1743
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:03,580
ARTS, I WAS EXPLAINING TO 

1744
00:53:03,580 --> 00:53:05,415
SOMEONE, WE CAN'T REALLY 

1745
00:53:05,415 --> 00:53:07,717
ACTUALLY EVEN PROCESS COMPLEX 

1746
00:53:07,717 --> 00:53:10,186
TRAUMA WHEN WE'RE 14, RIGHT? 

1747
00:53:10,186 --> 00:53:11,655
YOUR BRAIN CANNOT DO THAT. BUT 

1748
00:53:11,655 --> 00:53:13,123
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE 

1749
00:53:13,123 --> 00:53:15,192
ADDRESSED IN WAYS THAT KIDS CAN 

1750
00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:16,426
FEEL HOPEFUL AND LIKE THEY'RE ON

1751
00:53:16,426 --> 00:53:18,728
A PATH THAT IS SAFE. AND WE KNOW

1752
00:53:18,728 --> 00:53:20,430
HOW TO DO THAT. I THINK 

1753
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:21,765
SOMETIMES WE OVERINTELLECTUALIZE

1754
00:53:21,765 --> 00:53:23,600
IT AND OVERCOMPLICATE IT, BUT 

1755
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,234
MOST OF THOSE INVESTMENTS REMAIN

1756
00:53:24,234 --> 00:53:27,871
IN HSD. MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT 

1757
00:53:27,871 --> 00:53:30,774
THE CONTRACTS MOVING ARE ALL 

1758
00:53:30,774 --> 00:53:34,277
RELATED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOWN 

1759
00:53:34,277 --> 00:53:36,213
TO BE ENGAGED IN ACTIVITY, WHERE

1760
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:37,113
WE THINK THEY ARE GOING TO WIND 

1761
00:53:37,113 --> 00:53:39,482
UP WITH SENTENCES. YOU KNOW, WE 

1762
00:53:39,482 --> 00:53:40,550
THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO 

1763
00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:42,085
WIND UP IN THE SYSTEM. AND 

1764
00:53:42,085 --> 00:53:44,254
THAT'S, AGAIN, THE DESIGN OF 

1765
00:53:44,254 --> 00:53:46,790
LEAD IS WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE 

1766
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:47,691
LIKELY TO HAVE TO SPEND TIME IN 

1767
00:53:47,691 --> 00:53:50,160
THE CARCERAL SYSTEM. WE ALSO 

1768
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,862
KNOW THAT THE CAUSAL FACTOR HERE

1769
00:53:52,862 --> 00:53:53,697
IS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. IT'S A 

1770
00:53:53,697 --> 00:53:55,231
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUE. AND IF 

1771
00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:56,800
WE CAN TREAT THAT, THEN WE CAN 

1772
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,468
PROBABLY AVOID THE SYSTEM 

1773
00:53:58,468 --> 00:53:59,035
ALTOGETHER. AND I THINK THE 

1774
00:53:59,035 --> 00:54:00,604
TENSION IN OUR SOCIETY IS PEOPLE

1775
00:54:00,604 --> 00:54:02,272
DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT 

1776
00:54:02,272 --> 00:54:03,707
THE THEORY ISN'T NO 

1777
00:54:03,707 --> 00:54:05,809
ACCOUNTABILITY. THE THEORY IS 

1778
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:06,977
ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT IT'S. CAN 

1779
00:54:06,977 --> 00:54:08,345
YOU INCENT SOMEBODY ON A MORE 

1780
00:54:08,345 --> 00:54:12,182
PRODUCTIVE PATH USING SORT OF 

1781
00:54:12,182 --> 00:54:12,816
THE DETERRENT THAT'S ON THE 

1782
00:54:12,816 --> 00:54:14,217
BOOKS THAT WILL BE APPLIED 

1783
00:54:14,217 --> 00:54:16,419
CONSISTENTLY. SO MORE TO COME. 

1784
00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:18,722
AS I STUDY THE CONTRACTS, WE CAN

1785
00:54:18,722 --> 00:54:20,156
TALK ABOUT. 

1786
00:54:20,156 --> 00:54:21,224
-- THAT I KNOW WAS THROWN AT 

1787
00:54:21,224 --> 00:54:23,593
YOU. ONE MORE COMMENT, CHAIR. 

1788
00:54:23,593 --> 00:54:26,429
THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE 

1789
00:54:26,429 --> 00:54:29,132
REASON WHY THIS PIECE IS VERY 

1790
00:54:29,132 --> 00:54:29,733
IMPORTANT ABOUT THE CONTRACTS 

1791
00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:30,400
THAT ARE GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED

1792
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,570
OVER TO YOU VERSUS WHAT IS IN 

1793
00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:36,306
HSD. AND NOW I'M GOING TO GO 

1794
00:54:36,306 --> 00:54:38,575
INTO MY LITTLE EQUITY BOX THAT 

1795
00:54:38,575 --> 00:54:39,643
EVERYONE LOVES. AND THE ONE 

1796
00:54:39,643 --> 00:54:41,378
THING, BECAUSE I'M MOST 

1797
00:54:41,378 --> 00:54:41,945
CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE'VE 

1798
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:44,748
LEARNED, AND WE KNOW THAT 50% OF

1799
00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:46,449
THE VICTIMS THAT ARE GUN 

1800
00:54:46,449 --> 00:54:48,284
VIOLENCE ARE BLACK MALES. AND 

1801
00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:50,453
THEN WE ALSO KNOW THAT THESE ARE

1802
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,022
BETWEEN AGES OF 13 AND 24. AND 

1803
00:54:52,022 --> 00:54:53,590
THEN YOU GO HIGHER WHEN IT'S 

1804
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:56,293
LIKE 18 AND 24. AND I DON'T KNOW

1805
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:57,661
IF THAT'S THE TARGET 

1806
00:54:57,661 --> 00:54:59,496
DEMOGRAPHIC THAT LEAD IS GOING 

1807
00:54:59,496 --> 00:55:01,164
AFTER OR TARGET OR ARE DOING. 

1808
00:55:01,164 --> 00:55:03,900
AND SO TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION 

1809
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:05,969
AND ENSURING THAT IF WE KNOW 

1810
00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:09,506
THAT 50% OF BLACK MALES, 13 TO 

1811
00:55:09,506 --> 00:55:13,143
24 ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DYING 

1812
00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:16,713
AND CAUGHT UP IN THIS TYPE OF 

1813
00:55:16,713 --> 00:55:18,782
ACTIVITY, THEN THOSE SHOULD 

1814
00:55:18,782 --> 00:55:19,382
REFLECT SOME OF THE CONTRACTS 

1815
00:55:19,382 --> 00:55:22,185
AND THEN THE TARGETED APPROACH 

1816
00:55:22,185 --> 00:55:23,186
DURING THIS PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I

1817
00:55:23,186 --> 00:55:25,555
FIND OUT I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO

1818
00:55:25,555 --> 00:55:26,489
THE GUN VIOLENCE PLAN. I KNOW IT

1819
00:55:26,489 --> 00:55:28,158
WAS PUT ON PAPER. I FOUND OUT 

1820
00:55:28,158 --> 00:55:29,559
ABOUT IT WITH A PRESS RELEASE 

1821
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:31,394
AND AN EMAIL. SO I'M LOOKING 

1822
00:55:31,394 --> 00:55:32,929
FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, HELPING 

1823
00:55:32,929 --> 00:55:34,264
WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.

1824
00:55:34,264 --> 00:55:35,665
AND I'LL CONTINUE TO SHARE WITH

1825
00:55:35,665 --> 00:55:38,034
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE MY 

1826
00:55:38,034 --> 00:55:41,271
WILLINGNESS TO COLLABORATE ON 

1827
00:55:41,271 --> 00:55:44,274
THAT. HOWEVER, WHEN I'M LOOKING

1828
00:55:44,274 --> 00:55:46,576
AT THE CONTRACTS AND THE 

1829
00:55:46,576 --> 00:55:48,078
EXECUTION AND THE KPIS THAT 

1830
00:55:48,078 --> 00:55:48,978
WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE'RE 

1831
00:55:48,978 --> 00:55:50,847
TARGETING, NUMBER ONE, THAT 

1832
00:55:50,847 --> 00:55:51,448
DEMOGRAPHIC, THAT THE PEOPLE 

1833
00:55:51,448 --> 00:55:56,019
THAT ARE DOING THAT WORK ARE 

1834
00:55:56,019 --> 00:55:57,454
ALSO TARGETING THAT DEMOGRAPHIC 

1835
00:55:57,454 --> 00:55:59,022
AS WELL. AND THEN WE ALSO KNOW 

1836
00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:01,725
WHICH GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS WITHIN 

1837
00:56:01,725 --> 00:56:03,626
THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO BE 

1838
00:56:03,626 --> 00:56:05,195
FOCUSED ON AS WELL FOR THAT FOR,

1839
00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:07,397
FOR A LOT OF THAT WORK TOO. SO I

1840
00:56:07,397 --> 00:56:08,665
KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR 

1841
00:56:08,665 --> 00:56:10,967
PLATE, CHIEF. I LOOK FORWARD TO 

1842
00:56:10,967 --> 00:56:12,702
WORKING WITH YOU ON THAT, 

1843
00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:13,203
ESPECIALLY THE SHIFT IN 

1844
00:56:13,203 --> 00:56:14,671
CONTRACTS. BUT I THINK IF WE CAN

1845
00:56:14,671 --> 00:56:16,373
START SPLITTING IT UP AND 

1846
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:17,741
UNDERSTANDING THERE'S 

1847
00:56:17,741 --> 00:56:20,043
PREVENTION WORK THAT WE NEED TO 

1848
00:56:20,043 --> 00:56:21,411
DO, THERE'S INTERVENTION WORK 

1849
00:56:21,411 --> 00:56:22,212
AND ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S HOW I'M

1850
00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:23,780
ABLE TO BREAK IT UP, BECAUSE YOU

1851
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:25,482
MIGHT HAVE ONE GROUP, ONE 

1852
00:56:25,482 --> 00:56:26,616
ORGANIZATION THAT MIGHT DO TWO 

1853
00:56:26,616 --> 00:56:28,918
OF THEM. THEY DO PREVENTION, 

1854
00:56:28,918 --> 00:56:30,253
THEY DO INTERVENTION ENFORCEMENT

1855
00:56:30,253 --> 00:56:31,121
IS DIFFERENT. WE KNOW THAT'S THE

1856
00:56:31,121 --> 00:56:33,123
LAW SYSTEM. THAT'S SPD. THAT'S

1857
00:56:33,123 --> 00:56:34,991
MORE OF THE CITY SIDE. WE DO THE

1858
00:56:34,991 --> 00:56:36,059
ENFORCEMENT, THE CITY, BUT WE 

1859
00:56:36,059 --> 00:56:38,962
ALSO FUND THE PREVENTION AND 

1860
00:56:38,962 --> 00:56:40,396
INTERVENTION, WHICH I THINK IS 

1861
00:56:40,396 --> 00:56:41,831
IMPORTANT. AND SO THE HOLISTIC 

1862
00:56:41,831 --> 00:56:44,434
PLAN OF HAVING SOME KPIS. SO WE 

1863
00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:46,202
UNDERSTAND WHERE WE NEED TO 

1864
00:56:46,202 --> 00:56:48,104
TARGET MORE, I THINK IS REALLY 

1865
00:56:48,104 --> 00:56:49,572
IMPORTANT. SO WE'LL BE WORKING 

1866
00:56:49,572 --> 00:56:51,307
WITH YOU ABOUT THE CONTRACTS AND

1867
00:56:51,307 --> 00:56:53,409
FINDING OUT THE INTERVENTION 

1868
00:56:53,409 --> 00:56:54,878
PIECE ON THAT PIECE AS WELL. SO 

1869
00:56:54,878 --> 00:56:56,012
THANK YOU. 

1870
00:56:56,012 --> 00:56:56,446
-- YEAH. THANK YOU. 

1871
00:56:56,446 --> 00:56:57,914
-- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

1872
00:56:57,914 --> 00:56:59,082
ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMITTEE

1873
00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:00,517
TABLE RIGHT NOW NOT SEEING ANY. 

1874
00:57:00,517 --> 00:57:03,219
I'VE GOT COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER 

1875
00:57:03,219 --> 00:57:04,621
UP NEXT. 

1876
00:57:04,621 --> 00:57:06,322
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. AND

1877
00:57:06,322 --> 00:57:07,824
AS ALWAYS I APPRECIATE YOU, 

1878
00:57:07,824 --> 00:57:08,992
CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE AND FOR 

1879
00:57:08,992 --> 00:57:11,327
YOUR WORK AND YOUR LEADERSHIP. 

1880
00:57:11,327 --> 00:57:13,096
I'M GOING TO PICK UP WHERE THE 

1881
00:57:13,096 --> 00:57:15,832
COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEFT OFF 

1882
00:57:15,832 --> 00:57:16,900
DISCUSSING LEAD AND COLEAD, BUT 

1883
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:19,235
I FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SEEK A 

1884
00:57:19,235 --> 00:57:21,171
LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY AND 

1885
00:57:21,171 --> 00:57:22,338
UNDERSTANDING. I'M TRYING TO 

1886
00:57:22,338 --> 00:57:24,307
FIND THIS SLIDE NUMBER HERE. SO 

1887
00:57:24,307 --> 00:57:27,043
FOR THE COLEAD CONTRACT INCREASE

1888
00:57:27,043 --> 00:57:29,179
HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT UP ON THE 

1889
00:57:29,179 --> 00:57:31,314
SCREEN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

1890
00:57:31,314 --> 00:57:32,515
THIS SAYS $1.6 MILLION INCREASE.

1891
00:57:32,515 --> 00:57:35,518
AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT 

1892
00:57:35,518 --> 00:57:37,153
IT'S MAINTAINING CAPACITY. AND 

1893
00:57:37,153 --> 00:57:38,488
SO I'M LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT

1894
00:57:38,488 --> 00:57:40,757
CLARITY. ARE WE ADDING CAPACITY 

1895
00:57:40,757 --> 00:57:42,058
OR ARE WE MAINTAINING CAPACITY. 

1896
00:57:42,058 --> 00:57:45,295
AND THIS REPRESENTS AN INCREASED

1897
00:57:45,295 --> 00:57:47,096
COST TO MAINTAIN CAPACITY 

1898
00:57:47,096 --> 00:57:48,798
-- YEAH. SO I CAN ANSWER THAT. 

1899
00:57:48,798 --> 00:57:49,666
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. IT IS AN 

1900
00:57:49,666 --> 00:57:51,234
INCREASED COST TO THE CITY TO 

1901
00:57:51,234 --> 00:57:52,669
MAINTAIN OUR CAPACITY. THIS IS 

1902
00:57:52,669 --> 00:57:53,903
REPLACING ONE TIME FUNDING THAT 

1903
00:57:53,903 --> 00:57:55,472
WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE THROUGH 

1904
00:57:55,472 --> 00:57:56,506
KING COUNTY. 

1905
00:57:56,506 --> 00:57:58,441
-- THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. 

1906
00:57:58,441 --> 00:57:59,576
SO THIS IS INCREASED COST FOR 

1907
00:57:59,576 --> 00:58:01,144
US. SAME CAPACITY THAT WE WERE 

1908
00:58:01,144 --> 00:58:03,046
PROVIDING IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR 

1909
00:58:03,046 --> 00:58:04,681
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A FUND 

1910
00:58:04,681 --> 00:58:06,616
SHIFT THAT THE THE FUNDED AGENCY

1911
00:58:06,616 --> 00:58:07,851
IS EXPERIENCING. SO WE ARE 

1912
00:58:07,851 --> 00:58:09,586
COVERING THAT COST SO THAT WE 

1913
00:58:09,586 --> 00:58:10,887
DON'T LOSE CAPACITY. 

1914
00:58:10,887 --> 00:58:11,387
-- ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 

1915
00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:13,056
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN DO 

1916
00:58:13,056 --> 00:58:14,591
WE KNOW WHAT THIS. 

1917
00:58:14,591 --> 00:58:16,726
-- COUNCILMEMBER. JUST A SECOND.

1918
00:58:16,726 --> 00:58:17,260
DIRECTOR PENNUCCI CHAIR. 

1919
00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:19,195
-- AND JUST I, I THINK TO 

1920
00:58:19,195 --> 00:58:20,830
CLARIFY, THOUGH, WE HAVE BEEN 

1921
00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:22,699
PAYING WE PAID FOR THIS CONTRACT

1922
00:58:22,699 --> 00:58:24,868
THIS YEAR USING ONE TIME FUNDS, 

1923
00:58:24,868 --> 00:58:28,338
AND I BELIEVE LAST YEAR AS WELL,

1924
00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:32,208
THE CONTRACT KIND OF SPREAD 

1925
00:58:32,208 --> 00:58:33,943
ACROSS CALENDAR YEARS. AND SO 

1926
00:58:33,943 --> 00:58:35,645
IT'S BEEN FUNDED ONE TIME, 

1927
00:58:35,645 --> 00:58:39,015
MAYBE TWO TIMES AT THE CITY. AND

1928
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:40,383
THIS IS PROVIDING THE ONGOING 

1929
00:58:40,383 --> 00:58:40,650
FUNDING. 

1930
00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:41,751
-- AND I WILL ALSO SHARE, JUST 

1931
00:58:41,751 --> 00:58:44,387
AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AS THIS

1932
00:58:44,387 --> 00:58:45,154
TRANSITION WAS OCCURRING, IT WAS

1933
00:58:45,154 --> 00:58:46,489
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I 

1934
00:58:46,489 --> 00:58:47,657
FLAGGED FOR DIRECTOR PENNUCCI AS

1935
00:58:47,657 --> 00:58:49,392
SHE WAS COMING IN, IS THAT THERE

1936
00:58:49,392 --> 00:58:51,027
WAS A CONTRACT THAT WE HAD NOT 

1937
00:58:51,027 --> 00:58:54,597
FULLY PAID OUT, AND SO WE WERE 

1938
00:58:54,597 --> 00:58:56,065
CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED, BUT HAD

1939
00:58:56,065 --> 00:58:57,300
NOT RECEIVED THE FUNDING. SO 

1940
00:58:57,300 --> 00:58:58,368
WHILE THERE'S A LOT THAT YOU 

1941
00:58:58,368 --> 00:59:00,036
SEE GOING ON HERE, THERE'S ALSO

1942
00:59:00,036 --> 00:59:00,637
ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE'RE 

1943
00:59:00,637 --> 00:59:02,005
ALWAYS DOING. THANK YOU FOR 

1944
00:59:02,005 --> 00:59:03,106
LETTING ME FACILITATE AND 

1945
00:59:03,106 --> 00:59:05,375
INTERRUPT. BACK TO YOU, DR. 

1946
00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:05,842
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

1947
00:59:05,842 --> 00:59:06,809
-- ALMOST MADE ME A DIRECTOR. 

1948
00:59:06,809 --> 00:59:09,078
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

1949
00:59:09,078 --> 00:59:11,314
CHAIR STRAUSS. I APPRECIATE THAT

1950
00:59:11,314 --> 00:59:12,849
AND I APPRECIATE THE LONGEVITY 

1951
00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:14,817
OF THE MEMORY THERE AND THE 

1952
00:59:14,817 --> 00:59:15,919
INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT'S 

1953
00:59:15,919 --> 00:59:17,854
REALLY HELPFUL FOR 

1954
00:59:17,854 --> 00:59:18,488
-- ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU 

1955
00:59:18,488 --> 00:59:19,689
KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 

1956
00:59:19,689 --> 00:59:21,124
WE'RE OFTEN TALKING ABOUT IS 

1957
00:59:21,124 --> 00:59:23,793
OUR ABILITY TO INCREASE SERVICE 

1958
00:59:23,793 --> 00:59:25,428
DELIVERY. AND SO IT'S HELPFUL TO

1959
00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:28,998
UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT TALKING 

1960
00:59:28,998 --> 00:59:29,966
ABOUT INCREASED FINANCIAL 

1961
00:59:29,966 --> 00:59:31,067
COMMITMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

1962
00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:32,201
ONGOING COMMITMENT. AND I THINK 

1963
00:59:32,201 --> 00:59:33,303
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS A 

1964
00:59:33,303 --> 00:59:34,938
COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR ON THAT SO 

1965
00:59:34,938 --> 00:59:37,340
THAT AS WE LOOK FOR AS COUNCIL 

1966
00:59:37,340 --> 00:59:38,541
PRESIDENT, TALKED ABOUT KPIS, 

1967
00:59:38,541 --> 00:59:39,342
WHICH WE SHOULD SEE, I THINK 

1968
00:59:39,342 --> 00:59:41,277
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT, BUT 

1969
00:59:41,277 --> 00:59:42,979
WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT 

1970
00:59:42,979 --> 00:59:44,948
MAKING AN ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT 

1971
00:59:44,948 --> 00:59:46,916
HERE. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE

1972
00:59:46,916 --> 00:59:48,985
NECESSARILY AN UPTICK IN PEOPLE 

1973
00:59:48,985 --> 00:59:50,186
SERVED, BECAUSE THIS IS A 

1974
00:59:50,186 --> 00:59:51,487
COMMITMENT TO DO WHAT WE HAVE 

1975
00:59:51,487 --> 00:59:53,556
BEEN DOING. SO I THINK THAT'S 

1976
00:59:53,556 --> 00:59:54,991
HELPFUL FOR FOR ME TO 

1977
00:59:54,991 --> 00:59:56,826
UNDERSTAND, AS I'M GOING TO BE 

1978
00:59:56,826 --> 00:59:57,927
MONITORING IMPACT AND CHANGE 

1979
00:59:57,927 --> 00:59:58,628
OVER TIME OF THIS WORK. SO THANK

1980
00:59:58,628 --> 01:00:00,897
YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 

1981
01:00:00,897 --> 01:00:03,499
OKAY. I WANT TO MOVE TO I DON'T

1982
01:00:03,499 --> 01:00:06,035
SOMETHING YOU SAID PREVIOUSLY 

1983
01:00:06,035 --> 01:00:08,905
CHIEF BARDEN WAS AROUND THE 

1984
01:00:08,905 --> 01:00:09,973
CAPACITY FOR THE FOR THE STAFF 

1985
01:00:09,973 --> 01:00:12,175
AND YOU, I THINK WHAT I HEARD 

1986
01:00:12,175 --> 01:00:13,676
YOU SAY WAS EARLIER, YOU FELT 

1987
01:00:13,676 --> 01:00:17,380
LIKE FOLKS WERE AT ABOUT 30% 

1988
01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:19,415
UTILITY. AND WE'RE NOW GETTING 

1989
01:00:19,415 --> 01:00:20,483
CLOSER TO 80%. AND I'D LOVE TO 

1990
01:00:20,483 --> 01:00:21,551
HEAR YOU SHARE MORE ABOUT 

1991
01:00:21,551 --> 01:00:23,353
WHAT'S MADE THE DIFFERENCE IN 

1992
01:00:23,353 --> 01:00:25,788
THAT. THAT 50% CHANGE OR. WELL, 

1993
01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:28,925
IT'S MORE THAN 50%, BUT GOING 

1994
01:00:28,925 --> 01:00:31,494
FROM 30% TO 80%. 

1995
01:00:31,494 --> 01:00:32,762
-- YEAH. THE SHORT STORY IS WE 

1996
01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:36,432
HAVE ALWAYS NEEDED MORE 

1997
01:00:36,432 --> 01:00:38,901
DEPLOYMENT STRATEGIES. THE IDEA 

1998
01:00:38,901 --> 01:00:41,137
THAT ALL CRISIS CALLS COME 

1999
01:00:41,137 --> 01:00:41,738
THROUGH 911, IT'S JUST NOT 

2000
01:00:41,738 --> 01:00:44,741
QUITE THE RIGHT IDEA, RIGHT? 

2001
01:00:44,741 --> 01:00:46,542
SOME DO, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

2002
01:00:46,542 --> 01:00:47,910
ARE IN GREAT CRISIS, THEY DON'T

2003
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:49,112
KNOW THEY'RE IN GREAT CRISIS. 

2004
01:00:49,112 --> 01:00:50,747
THAT'S SORT OF SOMETIMES THE 

2005
01:00:50,747 --> 01:00:52,915
NATURE OF MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. 

2006
01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:55,118
AND ALSO SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE 

2007
01:00:55,118 --> 01:00:56,319
DESPONDENT AND ARE NOT MOTIVATED

2008
01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:57,320
TO CALL ON THEIR OWN BEHALF 

2009
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,922
EITHER NINE, EIGHT, 8 OR 9 ONE 

2010
01:00:59,922 --> 01:01:02,859
ONE. AND SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN 

2011
01:01:02,859 --> 01:01:03,426
CONCERNED ABOUT DESIGNING A 

2012
01:01:03,426 --> 01:01:05,595
SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE NATURALLY IN

2013
01:01:05,595 --> 01:01:07,830
THE SPACE OF PEOPLE WHO 

2014
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:08,464
DESPERATELY NEED HELP AND NEED 

2015
01:01:08,464 --> 01:01:10,099
TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED IN THEIR 

2016
01:01:10,099 --> 01:01:11,167
SUFFERING AND NEED TO BE 

2017
01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:13,136
CONNECTED. THAT IS WHY I'VE 

2018
01:01:13,136 --> 01:01:14,904
ENJOYED OUR LIBRARY CONVERSATION

2019
01:01:14,904 --> 01:01:16,773
SO MUCH, BECAUSE I SPEND A LOT 

2020
01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:18,274
OF TIME AT CENTRAL BRANCH, AND I

2021
01:01:18,274 --> 01:01:19,575
KNOW THAT'S NATURALLY WHERE 

2022
01:01:19,575 --> 01:01:21,210
PEOPLE ARE. AND WHILE PEOPLE ARE

2023
01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:22,512
STILL GOING INSIDE AND ENGAGING,

2024
01:01:22,512 --> 01:01:23,713
YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF 

2025
01:01:23,713 --> 01:01:25,048
ACTUALLY GETTING THEM HELP. I 

2026
01:01:25,048 --> 01:01:26,282
TALK ABOUT THE FOOD BANKS A LOT.

2027
01:01:26,282 --> 01:01:29,452
RECOVERY CAFE. THERE ARE THESE 

2028
01:01:29,452 --> 01:01:31,254
PLACES WHERE WE KNOW THAT OUR 

2029
01:01:31,254 --> 01:01:33,256
NEIGHBORS ARE LIKELY TO WIND UP 

2030
01:01:33,256 --> 01:01:34,891
WORSE OFF IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY 

2031
01:01:34,891 --> 01:01:36,759
HELP THEM TO REDIRECT THEIR 

2032
01:01:36,759 --> 01:01:38,361
LIVES. AND SO SOME OF IT'S BEEN

2033
01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:40,563
IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE 

2034
01:01:40,563 --> 01:01:43,499
PARTNERSHIPS. M O USE MORE 

2035
01:01:43,499 --> 01:01:44,834
FORMAL COORDINATION WITH 

2036
01:01:44,834 --> 01:01:46,335
RECOVERY CAFE. ONE STORY I LIKE 

2037
01:01:46,335 --> 01:01:46,903
IS WE WERE ACTUALLY PICKING 

2038
01:01:46,903 --> 01:01:48,137
PEOPLE UP FROM PLYMOUTH HOUSING 

2039
01:01:48,137 --> 01:01:49,972
WHO WANTED TO GO TO RECOVERY 

2040
01:01:49,972 --> 01:01:51,240
CAFE IN SOTO, BUT COULDN'T GET 

2041
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:51,908
THERE. AND I FELT LIKE, WELL, WE

2042
01:01:51,908 --> 01:01:54,377
CAN SOLVE FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, WE

2043
01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:55,244
HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO THAT. 

2044
01:01:55,244 --> 01:01:57,313
THE JAIL PARTNERSHIP IS SO 

2045
01:01:57,313 --> 01:01:59,415
IMPORTANT, 45% OF THOSE PEOPLE 

2046
01:01:59,415 --> 01:02:01,784
ARE EXITING HOMELESS EVERY 

2047
01:02:01,784 --> 01:02:02,452
SINGLE DAY. WHAT DO WE THINK IS 

2048
01:02:02,452 --> 01:02:04,721
GOING TO HAPPEN? RIGHT? EVEN IF 

2049
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:06,355
THEY FOUND SOME STABILIZATION OR

2050
01:02:06,355 --> 01:02:07,523
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE OR 

2051
01:02:07,523 --> 01:02:08,758
FEELING A LITTLE BIT BETTER? 

2052
01:02:08,758 --> 01:02:12,728
WHAT PEOPLE TELL ME IS YOU EXIT 

2053
01:02:12,728 --> 01:02:14,130
AND IT'S DEVASTATING. YOU DON'T

2054
01:02:14,130 --> 01:02:15,832
KNOW WHERE TO GO. AND, YOU KNOW,

2055
01:02:15,832 --> 01:02:17,033
2 A.M. YOU SORT OF WIND UP IN 

2056
01:02:17,033 --> 01:02:20,169
THE SAME CYCLE. AND I HAVE REAL 

2057
01:02:20,169 --> 01:02:21,971
HEART AND COMPASSION FOR THOSE 

2058
01:02:21,971 --> 01:02:23,506
PEOPLE. AND PEOPLE DO NOT WANT 

2059
01:02:23,506 --> 01:02:24,207
TO LANGUISH AND DIE ON OUR 

2060
01:02:24,207 --> 01:02:28,578
STREETS. AND SO IT'S BEEN THAT 

2061
01:02:28,578 --> 01:02:30,213
IT'S BEEN ACTIVATING THE 6.25, 

2062
01:02:30,213 --> 01:02:30,813
THE NON-EMERGENCY LINE PRESS 

2063
01:02:30,813 --> 01:02:32,348
ZERO FOR A NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT 

2064
01:02:32,348 --> 01:02:33,416
CARE CRISIS RESPONDER. WE STILL 

2065
01:02:33,416 --> 01:02:36,719
TRIAGE THE SAME AS WE DO IN 911,

2066
01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:37,854
BUT WHAT IT ALLOWS IS SOMEBODY 

2067
01:02:37,854 --> 01:02:39,021
TO IDENTIFY. NOW, I THINK THAT 

2068
01:02:39,021 --> 01:02:40,656
THIS IS THE CARE TEAM. I THINK 

2069
01:02:40,656 --> 01:02:41,924
THAT'S WHAT I NEED. AND THEN WE

2070
01:02:41,924 --> 01:02:44,227
SORT OF BACK INTO AND WE DON'T 

2071
01:02:44,227 --> 01:02:46,362
NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT. RIGHT. AND

2072
01:02:46,362 --> 01:02:47,997
SO THAT HAS HELPED ABOUT 60 TO 

2073
01:02:47,997 --> 01:02:49,665
70 CALLS A DAY THAT COME IN THAT

2074
01:02:49,665 --> 01:02:52,668
WAY. AND THEN ALSO, AGAIN, I 

2075
01:02:52,668 --> 01:02:53,703
HAVE TO COMPLIMENT CHIEF SAYLES 

2076
01:02:53,703 --> 01:02:56,606
AND THE OTHER LEADERS IN SPD 

2077
01:02:56,606 --> 01:02:57,907
REALLY ENCOURAGING LAW 

2078
01:02:57,907 --> 01:03:00,209
ENFORCEMENT. IF IT'S CLINICAL 

2079
01:03:00,209 --> 01:03:01,210
IN NATURE RADIO, GET THE CARE 

2080
01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:03,312
TEAM OUT THERE, FLAG THEM DOWN. 

2081
01:03:03,312 --> 01:03:05,281
AND THAT HAS IMPROVED 

2082
01:03:05,281 --> 01:03:07,416
DRAMATICALLY THE LAST FEW 

2083
01:03:07,416 --> 01:03:09,085
MONTHS. AND I IT'S HARDER TO 

2084
01:03:09,085 --> 01:03:11,320
MEASURE, BUT I CAN FEEL A 

2085
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,957
CULTURAL SHIFT THAT'S REALLY 

2086
01:03:14,957 --> 01:03:17,360
POSITIVE. 

2087
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,394
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I

2088
01:03:18,394 --> 01:03:19,929
APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK 

2089
01:03:19,929 --> 01:03:21,397
THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL JUST 

2090
01:03:21,397 --> 01:03:23,199
MARK MY INTEREST IN THIS. AS WE 

2091
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:24,734
HEARD EARLIER IN THE YEAR, TO 

2092
01:03:24,734 --> 01:03:26,469
ENSURE THAT FOR THE THE CARES 

2093
01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:28,070
THAT WE DO HAVE, THAT WE'RE ABLE

2094
01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:29,939
TO HAVE THE IMPACT THAT I KNOW 

2095
01:03:29,939 --> 01:03:31,307
WE ALL WANT TO SEE WITH THE USE 

2096
01:03:31,307 --> 01:03:33,576
OF THOSE FOLKS IN THEIR TIME. SO

2097
01:03:33,576 --> 01:03:36,145
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT KIND OF 

2098
01:03:36,145 --> 01:03:38,414
MIX OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN 

2099
01:03:38,414 --> 01:03:40,583
CONTRIBUTING TO THE INCREASED 

2100
01:03:40,583 --> 01:03:42,785
UTILITY OF THOSE. I WANT TO TURN

2101
01:03:42,785 --> 01:03:47,089
TO THE NON-EMERGENCY CALL TIME 

2102
01:03:47,089 --> 01:03:47,790
AND THE SLIDES THAT YOU HAVE. I 

2103
01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:48,724
THINK EARLIER IN THE 

2104
01:03:48,724 --> 01:03:50,193
PRESENTATION. YEAH, THIS IS 

2105
01:03:50,193 --> 01:03:52,195
PERFECT. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE 

2106
01:03:52,195 --> 01:03:53,496
THE, YOU KNOW, CO-OCCURRENCE IN 

2107
01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:54,730
TERMS OF THE REDUCTION IN THE 

2108
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:56,599
OVERTIME HOURS AS WELL AS THE 

2109
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,735
REDUCTION IN THE AVERAGE WAIT 

2110
01:03:59,735 --> 01:04:01,003
TIME. I WANTED TO PICK BACK UP 

2111
01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:02,705
SOMETHING. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER

2112
01:04:02,705 --> 01:04:04,106
RIVERA WAS GETTING AT EARLIER, 

2113
01:04:04,106 --> 01:04:05,575
WHICH IS WE DO SOMETIMES HEAR 

2114
01:04:05,575 --> 01:04:06,542
FROM CONSTITUENTS WHO SAY, WELL,

2115
01:04:06,542 --> 01:04:08,377
I WAS WAITING FOR A REALLY LONG 

2116
01:04:08,377 --> 01:04:11,647
TIME, AND I WONDER IF THOSE ARE,

2117
01:04:11,647 --> 01:04:13,482
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUTLIERS, 

2118
01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:15,218
YOU KNOW, OCCUR. AND I KNOW THAT

2119
01:04:15,218 --> 01:04:16,686
EVEN OUR AVERAGE WITH THOSE 

2120
01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:17,753
OUTLIERS, OUR AVERAGE CONTINUES 

2121
01:04:17,753 --> 01:04:19,188
TO GO DOWN. AND THAT'S GREAT 

2122
01:04:19,188 --> 01:04:20,957
PROGRESS. I'M CURIOUS IF THE 

2123
01:04:20,957 --> 01:04:22,825
DEPARTMENT OR HOW YOU TRACK THE 

2124
01:04:22,825 --> 01:04:25,361
DATA FOR THOSE SORT OF MAX AND 

2125
01:04:25,361 --> 01:04:27,296
MIN NUMBERS AND WHETHER WE'RE 

2126
01:04:27,296 --> 01:04:29,465
SEEING THOSE GO DOWN AS WELL. 

2127
01:04:29,465 --> 01:04:30,833
-- YEAH. ONE THING THAT OCCURS 

2128
01:04:30,833 --> 01:04:31,867
TO ME AS YOU'RE TALKING IS I 

2129
01:04:31,867 --> 01:04:33,369
REALLY SHOULD PULL THE MEDIAN 

2130
01:04:33,369 --> 01:04:34,503
FOR YOU AS WELL, BECAUSE IT 

2131
01:04:34,503 --> 01:04:36,505
WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT 

2132
01:04:36,505 --> 01:04:37,173
THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, OFF 

2133
01:04:37,173 --> 01:04:38,641
THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AGAIN, YOU 

2134
01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:40,309
DO HAVE OUTLIERS. THE FEEDBACK I

2135
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:41,911
GET, IT'S ALWAYS IT'S LIKE YELP

2136
01:04:41,911 --> 01:04:43,512
REVIEWS, RIGHT? IT'S PEOPLE WHO

2137
01:04:43,512 --> 01:04:45,848
ARE THRILLED OR FURIOUS. AND SO 

2138
01:04:45,848 --> 01:04:47,717
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ANALYZE WHAT 

2139
01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:49,518
THE AVERAGE PERSON IS 

2140
01:04:49,518 --> 01:04:51,454
EXPERIENCING. WE DO TRACK CALL 

2141
01:04:51,454 --> 01:04:52,855
STATS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF 

2142
01:04:52,855 --> 01:04:53,456
NATIONAL STANDARDS WE HAVE TO 

2143
01:04:53,456 --> 01:04:54,223
MEET. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM 

2144
01:04:54,223 --> 01:04:56,192
EVERY SINGLE WEEK. DO YOU HAVE 

2145
01:04:56,192 --> 01:04:57,526
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, TOMMY.

2146
01:04:57,526 --> 01:05:00,062
-- YEAH, WE DO ANALYZE THE CALL 

2147
01:05:00,062 --> 01:05:01,030
STATS. WE HAVE RECORDS ON 

2148
01:05:01,030 --> 01:05:02,265
EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN. SO WE 

2149
01:05:02,265 --> 01:05:05,067
KNOW THE PRECISE CALL TIMES, 

2150
01:05:05,067 --> 01:05:05,701
WAIT TIMES FOR EVERYTHING THAT 

2151
01:05:05,701 --> 01:05:08,304
COMES IN ON ALL OF THOSE LINES. 

2152
01:05:08,304 --> 01:05:09,038
AND IN THE REPORTING THAT WE DO 

2153
01:05:09,038 --> 01:05:10,239
EVERY WEEK, WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY

2154
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:12,508
NOT HAVE A COPY OF, BUT WE CAN 

2155
01:05:12,508 --> 01:05:13,876
PROVIDE TO YOU. IT TALKS ABOUT 

2156
01:05:13,876 --> 01:05:14,977
WHAT THE OUTLIERS ARE IN ALL OF 

2157
01:05:14,977 --> 01:05:16,345
THOSE. WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE 

2158
01:05:16,345 --> 01:05:17,947
TREND DATA IS ALSO ALL OF THE 

2159
01:05:17,947 --> 01:05:19,482
AVERAGE WAIT TIME HAS BEEN 

2160
01:05:19,482 --> 01:05:21,350
DECREASING. THE NUMBER OF 

2161
01:05:21,350 --> 01:05:21,851
OUTLIERS HAVE ALSO BEEN 

2162
01:05:21,851 --> 01:05:23,386
DECREASING. AND ALSO REMEMBER 

2163
01:05:23,386 --> 01:05:24,720
THAT THE WAY THE 911 FUNCTIONS, 

2164
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,955
IT'S THE SAME CALL TAKERS THAT 

2165
01:05:25,955 --> 01:05:28,524
ARE ANSWERING NON-EMERGENCY LINE

2166
01:05:28,524 --> 01:05:30,259
TYPICALLY AS THE THE EMERGENCY 

2167
01:05:30,259 --> 01:05:33,396
CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN. WE DO 

2168
01:05:33,396 --> 01:05:33,996
STAFF DEDICATED NON-EMERGENCY 

2169
01:05:33,996 --> 01:05:34,897
PEOPLE DURING THE HIGHEST PART 

2170
01:05:34,897 --> 01:05:36,499
OF THE DAY OR THE MOST 

2171
01:05:36,499 --> 01:05:37,166
SIGNIFICANT VOLUME OF THE DAY. 

2172
01:05:37,166 --> 01:05:38,834
BUT AT 2 A.M., THAT'S NOT 

2173
01:05:38,834 --> 01:05:40,503
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING. 

2174
01:05:40,503 --> 01:05:42,004
DEDICATED STAFFING, FOR EXAMPLE.

2175
01:05:42,004 --> 01:05:43,572
AND SO IF THERE'S A LARGE EVENT

2176
01:05:43,572 --> 01:05:44,874
GOING ON IN THE CITY, WE'RE 

2177
01:05:44,874 --> 01:05:47,009
GOING TO PRIORITIZE THOSE 

2178
01:05:47,009 --> 01:05:48,377
EMERGENCY CALLS OVER A 

2179
01:05:48,377 --> 01:05:49,045
NON-EMERGENCY TIME. AND THAT'S 

2180
01:05:49,045 --> 01:05:50,846
WHEN YOU CAN SEE LONGER WAIT 

2181
01:05:50,846 --> 01:05:51,080
TIMES. 

2182
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,148
-- THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. AND I

2183
01:05:52,148 --> 01:05:53,616
MIGHT SUGGEST, IF I MAY, YOU 

2184
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:54,951
KNOW, AS YOU'RE BACK WITH US IN

2185
01:05:54,951 --> 01:05:56,419
THE FUTURE FOR FUTURE BUDGET 

2186
01:05:56,419 --> 01:05:58,988
YEARS, SHOWING THAT THOSE 

2187
01:05:58,988 --> 01:06:00,356
OUTLIER NUMBERS, GIVEN THAT 

2188
01:06:00,356 --> 01:06:01,757
YOU'RE ALREADY TRACKING THEM, 

2189
01:06:01,757 --> 01:06:05,528
IS HELPFUL BECAUSE WE DO HEAR 

2190
01:06:05,528 --> 01:06:06,162
THOSE ISSUES FROM CONSTITUENTS. 

2191
01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:06,762
AND, AND CLEARLY THAT YOU ALL 

2192
01:06:06,762 --> 01:06:08,297
ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING ON THAT

2193
01:06:08,297 --> 01:06:09,298
AND CONTINUING TO BRING IT DOWN.

2194
01:06:09,298 --> 01:06:11,367
BUT SEEING THOSE COME DOWN OR 

2195
01:06:11,367 --> 01:06:12,435
BEING ABLE TO MONITOR THAT, I 

2196
01:06:12,435 --> 01:06:13,903
THINK WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL 

2197
01:06:13,903 --> 01:06:14,603
INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE. SO 

2198
01:06:14,603 --> 01:06:15,771
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP 

2199
01:06:15,771 --> 01:06:18,541
EARLIER. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, I

2200
01:06:18,541 --> 01:06:20,109
APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. MY LAST 

2201
01:06:20,109 --> 01:06:21,844
KIND OF QUESTIONS HERE ARE JUST 

2202
01:06:21,844 --> 01:06:23,679
AROUND CHECKING WITH THE CHAIR. 

2203
01:06:23,679 --> 01:06:26,148
MY LAST QUESTION IS HERE, JUST 

2204
01:06:26,148 --> 01:06:26,782
AROUND SOME OF WHAT'S ALREADY 

2205
01:06:26,782 --> 01:06:27,516
BEEN DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF THE 

2206
01:06:27,516 --> 01:06:29,185
GUN VIOLENCE STRATEGY AND SOME 

2207
01:06:29,185 --> 01:06:30,453
OF THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE MOVING

2208
01:06:30,453 --> 01:06:31,787
OVER. SOMETHING I'M CURIOUS 

2209
01:06:31,787 --> 01:06:35,324
ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL HAVE

2210
01:06:35,324 --> 01:06:36,592
ACCESS TO I, HOPEFULLY I DO THE 

2211
01:06:36,592 --> 01:06:39,228
ACRONYM RIGHT, THE C JUST DATA. 

2212
01:06:39,228 --> 01:06:42,298
AND I'M SORT OF CURIOUS ABOUT 

2213
01:06:42,298 --> 01:06:42,932
THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE 

2214
01:06:42,932 --> 01:06:45,034
IN FRONT OF US WITH THE, THE 

2215
01:06:45,034 --> 01:06:46,635
DATA THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, 

2216
01:06:46,635 --> 01:06:48,237
BECAUSE BEING AN EMERGENCY AND 

2217
01:06:48,237 --> 01:06:50,740
PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT AND THE

2218
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:52,241
CONTRACTS COMING OVER, I KNOW 

2219
01:06:52,241 --> 01:06:53,342
WE'RE EARLY. THE CONTRACTS ARE 

2220
01:06:53,342 --> 01:06:54,910
COMING OVER IN JANUARY, BUT CAN 

2221
01:06:54,910 --> 01:06:57,213
YOU JUST GIVE US INSIGHT INTO 

2222
01:06:57,213 --> 01:06:59,014
HOW YOU MIGHT BE APPROACHING 

2223
01:06:59,014 --> 01:06:59,648
HAVING BOTH OF THOSE UNDER ONE 

2224
01:06:59,648 --> 01:07:03,486
ROOF AND WHERE WE COULD SEE 

2225
01:07:03,486 --> 01:07:03,919
POTENTIAL BENEFITS? 

2226
01:07:03,919 --> 01:07:06,322
-- YEAH. THE SHORT STORY IS THE 

2227
01:07:06,322 --> 01:07:08,257
WAY THAT I THINK ABOUT PUBLIC 

2228
01:07:08,257 --> 01:07:09,258
SAFETY, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING 

2229
01:07:09,258 --> 01:07:12,595
ABOUT CRIME OR CRISIS, I THINK 

2230
01:07:12,595 --> 01:07:13,229
ABOUT EVERYTHING AS BEHAVIORAL 

2231
01:07:13,229 --> 01:07:14,296
HEALTH RELATED, RIGHT? THAT 

2232
01:07:14,296 --> 01:07:15,097
THESE ARE NOT OUR HEALTHY 

2233
01:07:15,097 --> 01:07:17,099
NEIGHBORS THAT ARE CAUSING HARM 

2234
01:07:17,099 --> 01:07:19,201
TO COMMUNITY. THERE. THERE'S A,

2235
01:07:19,201 --> 01:07:21,337
FOR ME, A DEGREE OF COMPASSION 

2236
01:07:21,337 --> 01:07:22,638
FOR ALL. AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO

2237
01:07:22,638 --> 01:07:25,574
BREAK THE CYCLE, SEND THE RIGHT 

2238
01:07:25,574 --> 01:07:26,542
RESPONSE FIRST OR THE RIGHT 

2239
01:07:26,542 --> 01:07:28,077
INTERVENTION FIRST, BUT THEN 

2240
01:07:28,077 --> 01:07:29,011
ENSURE THAT THE SYSTEM IS 

2241
01:07:29,011 --> 01:07:31,147
ACCOUNTABLE TO REDIRECTING A 

2242
01:07:31,147 --> 01:07:32,381
LIFE. AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S SORT

2243
01:07:32,381 --> 01:07:35,551
OF BEYOND THE SCOPE OF MY FIRST 

2244
01:07:35,551 --> 01:07:37,486
RESPONDER POSITION, BUT IT'S 

2245
01:07:37,486 --> 01:07:38,120
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S 

2246
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,822
CONSISTENT APPLICATION OF THE 

2247
01:07:39,822 --> 01:07:41,323
LAW AND THAT THE SYSTEM IS 

2248
01:07:41,323 --> 01:07:42,591
DESIGNED TO KNOW, AGAIN, THE 

2249
01:07:42,591 --> 01:07:44,326
JAIL HEALTH PILOT IS FANTASTIC 

2250
01:07:44,326 --> 01:07:45,061
BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY SAYING, 

2251
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:46,996
ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT YOU HERE. 

2252
01:07:46,996 --> 01:07:49,098
WHAT DO YOU NEED? DO YOU QUALIFY

2253
01:07:49,098 --> 01:07:50,299
FOR APPLE HEALTH? DO YOU NEED A 

2254
01:07:50,299 --> 01:07:51,267
PRESCRIPTION? WHAT HAS THERE 

2255
01:07:51,267 --> 01:07:51,967
BEEN A RISK NEEDS ASSESSMENT? DO

2256
01:07:51,967 --> 01:07:53,369
YOU HAVE A PLACE TO GO WHEN YOU 

2257
01:07:53,369 --> 01:07:55,304
EXIT? I THINK IT'S THE MOST 

2258
01:07:55,304 --> 01:07:56,238
IMPORTANT WORK HAPPENING RIGHT 

2259
01:07:56,238 --> 01:07:59,341
NOW IN THE COUNTY, WITH GREAT 

2260
01:07:59,341 --> 01:08:01,110
POTENTIAL TO CHANGE LIVES. WHEN 

2261
01:08:01,110 --> 01:08:02,211
YOU'RE IN A CRISIS ENVIRONMENT,

2262
01:08:02,211 --> 01:08:04,647
WHICH IS THAT FBI CATEGORY OF 

2263
01:08:04,647 --> 01:08:06,148
SENSITIVE INFORMATION, IT MEANS 

2264
01:08:06,148 --> 01:08:07,249
THAT YOU ARE PROTECTED IN SOME 

2265
01:08:07,249 --> 01:08:08,184
WAYS FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, 

2266
01:08:08,184 --> 01:08:09,985
WHICH IS GOOD FOR VULNERABLE 

2267
01:08:09,985 --> 01:08:11,587
NEIGHBORS. THERE'S A 

2268
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:13,222
SENSITIVITY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE 

2269
01:08:13,222 --> 01:08:15,424
TO TRACK THE PROGRESS OF OUR 

2270
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:16,492
MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS. AND 

2271
01:08:16,492 --> 01:08:17,993
WE ALSO DON'T WANT THAT 

2272
01:08:17,993 --> 01:08:18,928
BROADCAST TO THE PUBLIC WHAT 

2273
01:08:18,928 --> 01:08:19,595
SOMEBODY'S GOING THROUGH WHEN 

2274
01:08:19,595 --> 01:08:23,466
THEY'RE VERY VULNERABLE. AND SO

2275
01:08:23,466 --> 01:08:26,035
COMING BACK TO THE POTENTIAL, 

2276
01:08:26,035 --> 01:08:26,602
ANYTIME THERE'S COMMUNITY 

2277
01:08:26,602 --> 01:08:27,703
INVESTMENTS THAT ARE THEN SORT 

2278
01:08:27,703 --> 01:08:30,039
OF PARTNERED WITH SIEGES, 

2279
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:31,841
ENVIRONMENTS, AN EASY EXAMPLE 

2280
01:08:31,841 --> 01:08:34,210
WOULD BE IF WHEN ACTUALLY THIS 

2281
01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:35,544
HAPPENS, A LAW ENFORCEMENT 

2282
01:08:35,544 --> 01:08:38,247
OFFICER GOES OUT TO A CALL, 

2283
01:08:38,247 --> 01:08:38,848
SOMEBODY IS IN POSSESSION OR, 

2284
01:08:38,848 --> 01:08:40,983
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS DEALING, 

2285
01:08:40,983 --> 01:08:43,352
IF THEY CAN SEE IN THEIR RECORDS

2286
01:08:43,352 --> 01:08:44,720
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, OH, THIS 

2287
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:45,821
PERSON HAS A LEAD CASE MANAGER. 

2288
01:08:45,821 --> 01:08:47,990
THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING 

2289
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:48,791
REALLY WELL FOR SIX MONTHS. THIS

2290
01:08:48,791 --> 01:08:51,460
LOOKS LIKE A RELAPSE. CAN I CALL

2291
01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:53,929
CARE? CAN I GET THE LEAD CASE 

2292
01:08:53,929 --> 01:08:55,798
MANAGER CONTACTED TO GET BACK 

2293
01:08:55,798 --> 01:08:58,000
OUT HERE TO INTERVENE QUICKLY. 

2294
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,136
AND IN A PERFECT WORLD, CASE 

2295
01:09:00,136 --> 01:09:02,071
MANAGERS WILL ALSO ADVISE WHEN 

2296
01:09:02,071 --> 01:09:03,038
THEY'RE FAILING. YOU KNOW, WE 

2297
01:09:03,038 --> 01:09:04,039
HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING. THIS IS 

2298
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:05,641
GOING FROM BAD TO WORSE. WE'RE 

2299
01:09:05,641 --> 01:09:07,776
GOING TO NEED A LAW ENFORCEMENT 

2300
01:09:07,776 --> 01:09:08,944
INTERVENTION. AND SO THAT IS A 

2301
01:09:08,944 --> 01:09:10,779
POTENTIAL. THERE'S A TECHNOLOGY

2302
01:09:10,779 --> 01:09:12,114
IN SPD CALLED FORCE METRICS. I 

2303
01:09:12,114 --> 01:09:14,450
AM IN THAT TECHNOLOGY. AND SO I 

2304
01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:16,752
CAN SEE IF I'M TO PULL OKAY, 

2305
01:09:16,752 --> 01:09:18,254
CRISIS CALLS, THIS PARTICULAR 

2306
01:09:18,254 --> 01:09:19,555
CALL TYPE, WHO ARE THE HIGH 

2307
01:09:19,555 --> 01:09:20,689
UTILIZERS IN THE SYSTEM. THE 

2308
01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:24,593
LAST 30 DAYS, THAT IS REALLY 

2309
01:09:24,593 --> 01:09:25,227
POWERFUL INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY

2310
01:09:25,227 --> 01:09:27,897
IF THEN WE CAN ACT ON IT AND 

2311
01:09:27,897 --> 01:09:29,732
START TO PROACTIVELY PROBLEM 

2312
01:09:29,732 --> 01:09:31,233
SOLVE FOR PEOPLE. DOES THAT MAKE

2313
01:09:31,233 --> 01:09:32,568
SENSE? IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED,

2314
01:09:32,568 --> 01:09:34,370
BUT I LOVE THE TOPIC. 

2315
01:09:34,370 --> 01:09:37,172
-- I THINK IT DOES. I THINK 

2316
01:09:37,172 --> 01:09:38,073
IT'S SOMETHING I'LL CONTINUE TO

2317
01:09:38,073 --> 01:09:39,775
EXPLORE AS WE GO THROUGH THE 

2318
01:09:39,775 --> 01:09:40,943
BUDGET PROCESS. AND FOR ME, 

2319
01:09:40,943 --> 01:09:41,944
IT'S REALLY AS WE MOVE THESE 

2320
01:09:41,944 --> 01:09:43,679
CONTRACTS, I KNOW THIS WAS 

2321
01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:46,315
SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE 

2322
01:09:46,315 --> 01:09:48,317
ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR THE 

2323
01:09:48,317 --> 01:09:48,884
CARE DEPARTMENT. LOOKING AT 

2324
01:09:48,884 --> 01:09:49,652
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, HOWEVER 

2325
01:09:49,652 --> 01:09:52,254
MANY YEARS AGO, THAT WAS. AND 

2326
01:09:52,254 --> 01:09:54,990
AND SO SORT OF MAKING GOOD ON 

2327
01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:55,624
WHAT WAS THIS ORIGINAL INTENT. 

2328
01:09:55,624 --> 01:09:56,725
AND I THINK GIVEN THERE'S BEEN A

2329
01:09:56,725 --> 01:09:58,327
LOT OF CHANGES IN LEADERSHIP 

2330
01:09:58,327 --> 01:10:00,596
SINCE THEN, MY CURIOSITY IS HOW 

2331
01:10:00,596 --> 01:10:02,298
DO WE HAVE, AS A CONTRACTS MOVE 

2332
01:10:02,298 --> 01:10:04,300
OVER? OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S THAT'S

2333
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:05,568
ADMINISTRATIVE IN A SENSE, AND I

2334
01:10:05,568 --> 01:10:06,802
HOPE YOU TAKE THAT IN THE WAY 

2335
01:10:06,802 --> 01:10:08,203
THAT IT WAS INTENDED. THAT SORT 

2336
01:10:08,203 --> 01:10:08,938
OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE. BUT

2337
01:10:08,938 --> 01:10:10,806
HOW DO WE ENSURE WE'RE GETTING 

2338
01:10:10,806 --> 01:10:11,907
THE CO-BENEFITS THAT ARE 

2339
01:10:11,907 --> 01:10:14,009
INTENDED FROM THAT CHANGE? 

2340
01:10:14,009 --> 01:10:15,010
THAT'S WHAT IS INTERESTING TO 

2341
01:10:15,010 --> 01:10:16,245
ME. AND I'LL BE TRACKING, AND I

2342
01:10:16,245 --> 01:10:17,947
JUST GOT ONE MORE THING ON THIS 

2343
01:10:17,947 --> 01:10:19,381
THAT I'LL JUST FLAG FOR FUTURE 

2344
01:10:19,381 --> 01:10:20,049
EXPLORATION HERE, WHICH IS, YOU 

2345
01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:22,217
KNOW, AS I'VE ENGAGED WITH SOME

2346
01:10:22,217 --> 01:10:24,286
OF THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, 

2347
01:10:24,286 --> 01:10:26,055
BUT ALSO WITH THE KING COUNTY 

2348
01:10:26,055 --> 01:10:28,157
REGIONAL OFFICE OF GUN VIOLENCE 

2349
01:10:28,157 --> 01:10:29,225
PREVENTION. AND, AND THROUGH MY 

2350
01:10:29,225 --> 01:10:30,392
ROLE WHERE I SERVE AS VICE CHAIR

2351
01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:31,560
OF THE BOARD OF PUBLIC HEALTH, 

2352
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,796
WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A 

2353
01:10:33,796 --> 01:10:34,930
PRESENTATION FROM SOME OF THE 

2354
01:10:34,930 --> 01:10:36,832
COORDINATED WORK THAT HAPPENS IN

2355
01:10:36,832 --> 01:10:38,834
SOUTH KING COUNTY ALREADY. AND 

2356
01:10:38,834 --> 01:10:42,071
IT'S CLEAR TO ME THERE ARE 

2357
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:44,239
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR REGION 

2358
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,675
WHO ARE IMPLEMENTING A DIFFERENT

2359
01:10:46,675 --> 01:10:48,611
APPROACH TODAY. AND SO I'M JUST

2360
01:10:48,611 --> 01:10:50,112
QUITE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN 

2361
01:10:50,112 --> 01:10:50,913
LEARN THERE. AND I WANT TO SAY 

2362
01:10:50,913 --> 01:10:52,748
IT'S CHIEF PADILLA. 

2363
01:10:52,748 --> 01:10:54,083
-- CHIEF PADILLA AND MAYOR DANA 

2364
01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:55,117
RALPH. I ALREADY KNOW EXACTLY 

2365
01:10:55,117 --> 01:10:55,784
WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH.

2366
01:10:55,784 --> 01:10:56,652
-- SO I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE 

2367
01:10:56,652 --> 01:10:57,786
ENGAGEMENT. BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD 

2368
01:10:57,786 --> 01:10:59,188
AND RESPOND. AND I THINK IT'S AN

2369
01:10:59,188 --> 01:11:00,723
AREA FOR US TO KEEP EXPLORING. 

2370
01:11:00,723 --> 01:11:02,191
-- ONE THING I HAVEN'T MENTIONED

2371
01:11:02,191 --> 01:11:04,260
YET IS THAT THE COUNCIL ENABLED 

2372
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:09,431
US TO INVEST IN SOFTWARE THAT 

2373
01:11:09,431 --> 01:11:11,967
BASICALLY ALLOWS ACCESS BY USER.

2374
01:11:11,967 --> 01:11:13,569
SO HEALTH ONE HAS CERTAIN HIPAA 

2375
01:11:13,569 --> 01:11:14,870
CONSTRAINTS. LAW ENFORCEMENT, 

2376
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:16,138
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIEGES, ACCESS.

2377
01:11:16,138 --> 01:11:18,374
THERE ARE COMMUNITY PROVIDERS 

2378
01:11:18,374 --> 01:11:20,476
WHO HAVE NEITHER. AND IT'S A 

2379
01:11:20,476 --> 01:11:22,111
TECHNOLOGY THAT AGAIN, KNOWS WHO

2380
01:11:22,111 --> 01:11:24,580
HAS WHAT ACCESS. AND SO IT'S 

2381
01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:26,148
REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW IF WE 

2382
01:11:26,148 --> 01:11:27,182
HAVE INVESTED SOME SUPPORTS IN 

2383
01:11:27,182 --> 01:11:29,818
SOMEBODY, IF THERE IS A MENTOR, 

2384
01:11:29,818 --> 01:11:31,720
WE WE THINK THAT WE HAVE 

2385
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,355
PROVIDED THE RIGHT INTERVENTION.

2386
01:11:33,355 --> 01:11:35,391
WE NEED TO REFER TO THAT 

2387
01:11:35,391 --> 01:11:36,859
INTERVENTION. SO I'VE HEARD 

2388
01:11:36,859 --> 01:11:37,793
SEVERAL OF YOU TALK ABOUT THAT. 

2389
01:11:37,793 --> 01:11:38,727
THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO 

2390
01:11:38,727 --> 01:11:41,697
HAVE LOTS OF SERVICES, DUPLICATE

2391
01:11:41,697 --> 01:11:42,331
SERVICES FROM ORGANIZATIONS, AND

2392
01:11:42,331 --> 01:11:44,500
THEN SOME WHO HAVE NONE. AND WE 

2393
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:46,201
NEED THE FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT 

2394
01:11:46,201 --> 01:11:47,736
ALSO THE OUTREACH WORKERS AND 

2395
01:11:47,736 --> 01:11:48,370
CASE MANAGERS TO KNOW THAT. SO 

2396
01:11:48,370 --> 01:11:50,939
THERE IS A TECHNICAL SOLUTION 

2397
01:11:50,939 --> 01:11:53,942
ALSO THAT IS UNDERWAY ACTIVELY. 

2398
01:11:53,942 --> 01:11:54,576
-- THANK YOU CHAIR. 

2399
01:11:54,576 --> 01:11:56,912
-- THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? 

2400
01:11:56,912 --> 01:11:57,379
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

2401
01:11:57,379 --> 01:11:58,013
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. 

2402
01:11:58,013 --> 01:11:59,848
-- THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO 

2403
01:11:59,848 --> 01:12:02,351
CHECK IN WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

2404
01:12:02,351 --> 01:12:02,785
EMERITUS JUAREZ AND 

2405
01:12:02,785 --> 01:12:04,019
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. IF YOU HAVE 

2406
01:12:04,019 --> 01:12:05,354
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS. 

2407
01:12:05,354 --> 01:12:07,523
NOW IS THE TIME. THANK YOU. 

2408
01:12:07,523 --> 01:12:08,857
COUNCIL PRESIDENT EMERITUS. 

2409
01:12:08,857 --> 01:12:09,958
-- THANK YOU. COUNCIL. I MEAN, 

2410
01:12:09,958 --> 01:12:10,592
THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. 

2411
01:12:10,592 --> 01:12:11,727
-- YEAH. YOU GOT. 

2412
01:12:11,727 --> 01:12:13,062
-- MICK JAGGER THERE. SORRY I 

2413
01:12:13,062 --> 01:12:16,665
ALWAYS GET THIS RIGHT. SO LET ME

2414
01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:19,168
JUST. CHIEF. HOW MANY HOW MANY 

2415
01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:20,269
SPD HOW MANY CRISIS CALLS DO WE 

2416
01:12:20,269 --> 01:12:23,906
GET NOW, DO YOU REMEMBER? 

2417
01:12:23,906 --> 01:12:26,008
-- DO YOU MEAN CRISIS? LIKE 

2418
01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:28,510
THERE'S ABOUT 13 CATEGORIES OF 

2419
01:12:28,510 --> 01:12:30,813
CALL TYPES. AND THOSE 13 ARE 

2420
01:12:30,813 --> 01:12:34,683
ABOUT 60,000 A YEAR. 

2421
01:12:34,683 --> 01:12:37,252
-- 60,000 A YEAR. A YEAR. 

2422
01:12:37,252 --> 01:12:38,420
-- 60,000 A YEAR. BUT IF YOU 

2423
01:12:38,420 --> 01:12:39,988
THINK ABOUT RELATED TO A 

2424
01:12:39,988 --> 01:12:41,824
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS, IT'S 

2425
01:12:41,824 --> 01:12:43,359
ABOUT HALF THE CALLS. OKAY. BUT 

2426
01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:44,393
THAT'S MANY, MANY, MANY CALL 

2427
01:12:44,393 --> 01:12:46,128
TYPES. SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW 

2428
01:12:46,128 --> 01:12:46,795
YOU'RE DEFINING IT. BUT WHEN WE

2429
01:12:46,795 --> 01:12:48,797
WERE ANALYZING WHAT THE CARE 

2430
01:12:48,797 --> 01:12:49,598
RESPONDERS SHOULD GO TO, WHERE 

2431
01:12:49,598 --> 01:12:52,568
WE KNOW BY THE DATA. LAW 

2432
01:12:52,568 --> 01:12:53,202
ENFORCEMENT ARE NEVER INVOLVED 

2433
01:12:53,202 --> 01:12:54,937
OR USEFUL. THERE'S NOT EVEN A 

2434
01:12:54,937 --> 01:12:57,106
CITATION WE CAME UP WITH JUST 

2435
01:12:57,106 --> 01:12:58,974
OVER 57,000 CALLS A YEAR THAT 

2436
01:12:58,974 --> 01:13:00,409
COULD SAFELY, IMMEDIATELY BE 

2437
01:13:00,409 --> 01:13:01,810
RESPONDED TO BY CARE RESPONDERS.

2438
01:13:01,810 --> 01:13:03,378
-- WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE 

2439
01:13:03,378 --> 01:13:05,280
THIS BECAUSE SOMEHOW I FOUND ALL

2440
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,582
MY NOTES FROM OCTOBER, 

2441
01:13:06,582 --> 01:13:10,352
SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER 2020 WHEN WE 

2442
01:13:10,352 --> 01:13:11,453
WERE DOING THE JUMP START AND 

2443
01:13:11,453 --> 01:13:13,455
WHEN WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF 

2444
01:13:13,455 --> 01:13:17,059
CREATING CARE. AND MY NOTES 

2445
01:13:17,059 --> 01:13:18,494
REFLECT 17,000 SPD CRISIS CALLS,

2446
01:13:18,494 --> 01:13:19,661
BUT THAT POLICE SHOULD NOT BE 

2447
01:13:19,661 --> 01:13:20,896
ADDRESSING THESE BUILD A 

2448
01:13:20,896 --> 01:13:22,531
COMMUNITY RESOURCE TO 

2449
01:13:22,531 --> 01:13:25,067
DEESCALATE. INTERVENE, AND 

2450
01:13:25,067 --> 01:13:26,135
DISRUPT. THAT WAS KIND OF THE 

2451
01:13:26,135 --> 01:13:28,370
BIRTH OF CARE WHEN WE STARTED 

2452
01:13:28,370 --> 01:13:29,872
DOING IS LAUGHING BECAUSE SHE 

2453
01:13:29,872 --> 01:13:32,274
REMEMBERS ALL THIS AND JUMP 

2454
01:13:32,274 --> 01:13:32,775
START AND THE ORIGINAL 

2455
01:13:32,775 --> 01:13:33,809
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. OH YEAH, I 

2456
01:13:33,809 --> 01:13:34,743
GOT NOTES, GIRL, I KEEP 

2457
01:13:34,743 --> 01:13:36,044
RECEIPTS. OKAY, I KNOW WHO 

2458
01:13:36,044 --> 01:13:37,646
PEOPLE ARE WHEN AND WHO THEY ARE

2459
01:13:37,646 --> 01:13:38,914
TODAY. SO UNLESS THEY'VE EVOLVED

2460
01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:40,015
AND TOLD ME DIFFERENT, I'M GOING

2461
01:13:40,015 --> 01:13:42,484
TO HOLD TO THAT. SO WHAT I WAS 

2462
01:13:42,484 --> 01:13:46,388
GOING TO ASK YOU IS SINCE THE 

2463
01:13:46,388 --> 01:13:47,122
BEGINNING THAT WE STARTED, AND I

2464
01:13:47,122 --> 01:13:49,725
KNOW YOU AND I HAVE HAD THESE 

2465
01:13:49,725 --> 01:13:51,460
KIND OF CONVERSATIONS, HOW CARE 

2466
01:13:51,460 --> 01:13:53,996
BIRTHED OR GREW OUT OF POST 

2467
01:13:53,996 --> 01:13:56,131
2020, THE COMMUNITY'S RESPONSE 

2468
01:13:56,131 --> 01:13:58,000
TO CREATE THIS UPSTREAM 

2469
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,836
PROGRAMS, BUDGETING STAFF 

2470
01:14:00,836 --> 01:14:04,573
DOUBLING THE STAFF BEING MORE 

2471
01:14:04,573 --> 01:14:05,174
DELIBERATE AND INTENTIONAL IN 

2472
01:14:05,174 --> 01:14:06,074
INTERRUPTING AND BRINGING IN. I 

2473
01:14:06,074 --> 01:14:07,075
KNOW PEOPLE USE THE WORD 

2474
01:14:07,075 --> 01:14:09,478
COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME, BUT WHAT

2475
01:14:09,478 --> 01:14:10,879
IT REALLY MEANS. SO JUST AND 

2476
01:14:10,879 --> 01:14:12,881
I'LL CLOSE ON THIS NOTE JUST 

2477
01:14:12,881 --> 01:14:15,551
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM YOUR

2478
01:14:15,551 --> 01:14:17,820
VANTAGE POINT, WHAT HAVE YOU 

2479
01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:20,055
SEEN SINCE WE'VE CREATED THIS? 

2480
01:14:20,055 --> 01:14:20,689
NOW 2023 IS WHEN IT ACTUALLY 

2481
01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:21,957
CAME TO FRUITION, AND THEN WE 

2482
01:14:21,957 --> 01:14:25,093
START FUNDING IT MORE. AND, YOU 

2483
01:14:25,093 --> 01:14:26,261
KNOW, WE FOUGHT HARD. AND I KNOW

2484
01:14:26,261 --> 01:14:28,997
YOU HAD SOME YOU HAD YOUR, YOUR 

2485
01:14:28,997 --> 01:14:30,532
ISSUES ABOUT THE SPA CONTRACT 

2486
01:14:30,532 --> 01:14:32,401
AND SOME ISSUES THERE AND SOME 

2487
01:14:32,401 --> 01:14:34,303
BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES HOW FAR 

2488
01:14:34,303 --> 01:14:36,205
DO YOU THINK WE'VE COME SINCE 

2489
01:14:36,205 --> 01:14:37,773
THEN? 

2490
01:14:37,773 --> 01:14:38,407
-- WHAT IS THE NICEST QUESTION 

2491
01:14:38,407 --> 01:14:40,809
YOU COULD ASK ME? FIRST, I WOULD

2492
01:14:40,809 --> 01:14:43,312
SAY THANK YOU. IT IS. I TAKE FOR

2493
01:14:43,312 --> 01:14:45,113
GRANTED HOW MUCH WE'VE GOTTEN 

2494
01:14:45,113 --> 01:14:47,282
DONE SINCE THAT TIME AND HOW 

2495
01:14:47,282 --> 01:14:48,750
PAINFUL THAT TIME WAS FOR 

2496
01:14:48,750 --> 01:14:50,719
PEOPLE, HOW DIVISIVE IT WAS. BY 

2497
01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:52,087
THE TIME I ARRIVED IN EARLY 

2498
01:14:52,087 --> 01:14:54,523
2023, PEOPLE WERE SORT OF CALMED

2499
01:14:54,523 --> 01:14:55,924
DOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'VE

2500
01:14:55,924 --> 01:14:56,525
JOKED THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS 

2501
01:14:56,525 --> 01:14:58,227
GOING TO BE FUN AND EASY BECAUSE

2502
01:14:58,227 --> 01:15:00,195
I WAS JUST SAYING, OH, BY THE 

2503
01:15:00,195 --> 01:15:01,763
CALL DATA, YOU NEED THIS FOURTH 

2504
01:15:01,763 --> 01:15:02,731
BRANCH OF PUBLIC SAFETY. AND 

2505
01:15:02,731 --> 01:15:04,566
YOU, I ALWAYS SAY CONFIGURATION 

2506
01:15:04,566 --> 01:15:05,934
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CALLS 

2507
01:15:05,934 --> 01:15:06,635
WHERE I THINK IN A PERFECT 

2508
01:15:06,635 --> 01:15:08,971
WORLD, I WOULD HAVE POLICE, FIRE

2509
01:15:08,971 --> 01:15:10,472
MEDIC AND A CLINICIAN ON THAT 

2510
01:15:10,472 --> 01:15:11,907
CALL. IF YOU COULD HAVE THAT 

2511
01:15:11,907 --> 01:15:13,976
STAFFING, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. I

2512
01:15:13,976 --> 01:15:16,345
THINK THAT WE HAVE THE BEST 

2513
01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:17,212
DESIGN IN THE COUNTRY. ACTUALLY,

2514
01:15:17,212 --> 01:15:18,714
I REALLY DO. I THINK THAT I 

2515
01:15:18,714 --> 01:15:20,382
BENEFITED TREMENDOUSLY FROM 

2516
01:15:20,382 --> 01:15:21,316
OTHER LEADERS IN THE FIELD WHO 

2517
01:15:21,316 --> 01:15:23,852
ARE ABOUT TWO YEARS AHEAD, A 

2518
01:15:23,852 --> 01:15:26,321
YEAR AHEAD, AND MY BIAS 

2519
01:15:26,321 --> 01:15:28,156
INITIALLY WAS, LET'S OUTSOURCE 

2520
01:15:28,156 --> 01:15:29,057
EVERYTHING TO THE NONPROFIT 

2521
01:15:29,057 --> 01:15:30,125
SECTOR. AND THEN I SPENT SO MUCH

2522
01:15:30,125 --> 01:15:32,194
TIME IN NINE, ONE, ONE AND OUT 

2523
01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:32,828
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND STARTED

2524
01:15:32,828 --> 01:15:35,030
TO UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO HAVE 

2525
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:37,132
AN INTEGRATED SYSTEM OF FIRST 

2526
01:15:37,132 --> 01:15:38,533
RESPONDERS WHO CAN RADIO TO ONE 

2527
01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:41,169
ANOTHER, WHO CAN SHARE THE SAME 

2528
01:15:41,169 --> 01:15:42,537
RECORDS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE 

2529
01:15:42,537 --> 01:15:43,672
FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDING TO 

2530
01:15:43,672 --> 01:15:45,674
THE SAME PEOPLE AS THE POLICE 

2531
01:15:45,674 --> 01:15:46,408
DEPARTMENT, AS THE CLINICIANS. 

2532
01:15:46,408 --> 01:15:47,342
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 

2533
01:15:47,342 --> 01:15:51,113
THIS LEVEL OF OUTREACH WORKERS. 

2534
01:15:51,113 --> 01:15:51,680
AND NINE ONE, ONE IS ALWAYS 

2535
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,782
GOING TO BE AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM.

2536
01:15:53,782 --> 01:15:55,684
SOMEBODY CALLS, THEY'RE 

2537
01:15:55,684 --> 01:15:56,318
GUESSING, THEY'RE DESCRIBING 

2538
01:15:56,318 --> 01:15:57,786
WHAT THEY THINK THEY'RE SEEING.

2539
01:15:57,786 --> 01:15:59,788
AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS 

2540
01:15:59,788 --> 01:16:01,156
TIGHT INTEGRATION. WHAT FIRE 

2541
01:16:01,156 --> 01:16:02,591
GOES OUT MANY TIMES A WEEK AND 

2542
01:16:02,591 --> 01:16:04,693
THEY REALIZE, OH, WE NEED LAW 

2543
01:16:04,693 --> 01:16:06,261
ENFORCEMENT HERE AS WELL, AT 

2544
01:16:06,261 --> 01:16:08,330
LEAST ON STANDBY. AN IMPORTANT 

2545
01:16:08,330 --> 01:16:10,499
DATA POINT I DIDN'T SHARE WAS 

2546
01:16:10,499 --> 01:16:11,600
THAT IN THE 17000 CALLS, WE'VE 

2547
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,201
ACTUALLY ONLY CALLED POLICE BACK

2548
01:16:13,201 --> 01:16:15,304
FOR SUPPORT ABOUT 15 TIMES, 

2549
01:16:15,304 --> 01:16:17,272
WHICH IS STUNNING TO ME. I WOULD

2550
01:16:17,272 --> 01:16:19,041
HAVE EXPECTED IT TO BE MUCH MORE

2551
01:16:19,041 --> 01:16:20,142
OFTEN AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S 

2552
01:16:20,142 --> 01:16:21,577
UNPREDICTABLE. BUT IT TELLS ME 

2553
01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:24,379
WE'RE GETTING THOSE PROTOCOLS 

2554
01:16:24,379 --> 01:16:25,213
RIGHT ON THE FRONT LINES. AGAIN.

2555
01:16:25,213 --> 01:16:26,882
IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THERE'S UNIONS

2556
01:16:26,882 --> 01:16:27,716
AND THERE'S BARGAINING, 

2557
01:16:27,716 --> 01:16:29,885
THERE'S CONTRACTS. THE FIRST 

2558
01:16:29,885 --> 01:16:30,852
RESPONDERS ARE BRILLIANT. 

2559
01:16:30,852 --> 01:16:32,354
THEY'RE BRILLIANT. THE WAY THAT

2560
01:16:32,354 --> 01:16:34,823
THEY WORK TOGETHER. THE MUTUAL 

2561
01:16:34,823 --> 01:16:36,391
RESPECT IS ASTONISHING. AND THE 

2562
01:16:36,391 --> 01:16:38,093
BEST DAYS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, 

2563
01:16:38,093 --> 01:16:39,194
HEALTH. ONE CALLING THIS TEAM 

2564
01:16:39,194 --> 01:16:40,796
CALLS THIS TEAM. THERE'S MANY 

2565
01:16:40,796 --> 01:16:41,830
CALLS WHERE IT'S ALSO VICTIM 

2566
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:44,166
SUPPORT TEAM IS THERE. THEY ARE 

2567
01:16:44,166 --> 01:16:45,734
ALL ON THE FRONT LINES DOING 

2568
01:16:45,734 --> 01:16:47,869
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP OUR 

2569
01:16:47,869 --> 01:16:50,038
NEIGHBORS. AND THEY'RE 

2570
01:16:50,038 --> 01:16:50,672
COLLABORATIVE AND RESPECTFUL OF 

2571
01:16:50,672 --> 01:16:52,441
ONE ANOTHER. AND SO I'M VERY 

2572
01:16:52,441 --> 01:16:53,842
APPRECIATIVE THAT SEATTLE SET IT

2573
01:16:53,842 --> 01:16:56,745
UP THAT WAY. AND I HAVE NEVER 

2574
01:16:56,745 --> 01:16:59,114
HELD A DEFICIT PERSPECTIVE, 

2575
01:16:59,114 --> 01:17:00,582
SETTING UP A NEW BRANCH OF FIRST

2576
01:17:00,582 --> 01:17:03,685
RESPONDERS IS BASED ON THE NEED 

2577
01:17:03,685 --> 01:17:04,186
FOR MENTAL HEALTH FIRST 

2578
01:17:04,186 --> 01:17:04,820
RESPONDERS, AND IT NEEDS TO BE 

2579
01:17:04,820 --> 01:17:06,688
IN SUPPORT OF OUR EXISTING FIRST

2580
01:17:06,688 --> 01:17:09,191
RESPONDERS. AND SO THE EVEN 

2581
01:17:09,191 --> 01:17:10,759
SLOWING THE EXPANSION A LITTLE 

2582
01:17:10,759 --> 01:17:12,294
BIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM

2583
01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:14,096
IS GETTING COORDINATED. I DON'T

2584
01:17:14,096 --> 01:17:17,065
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE

2585
01:17:17,065 --> 01:17:18,500
I AM WORKING TOWARD 50 YEARS 

2586
01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:20,369
FROM NOW, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE ARE 

2587
01:17:20,369 --> 01:17:22,004
JUST ALMOST TO THE THREE YEAR 

2588
01:17:22,004 --> 01:17:23,105
ANNIVERSARY, AND I WANT THIS 

2589
01:17:23,105 --> 01:17:25,774
DONE IN A WAY THAT CAN ENDURE, 

2590
01:17:25,774 --> 01:17:26,441
THAT MY GRANDKIDS WILL BE LIKE, 

2591
01:17:26,441 --> 01:17:27,809
YEAH, OF COURSE THERE'D BE A 

2592
01:17:27,809 --> 01:17:28,910
CARE RESPONDER GO TO THAT CALL. 

2593
01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:33,582
OF COURSE. AND SO I OVERALL, 

2594
01:17:33,582 --> 01:17:34,316
VERY POSITIVE AND VERY GRATEFUL 

2595
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:35,784
TO BE PART OF THIS IMPORTANT 

2596
01:17:35,784 --> 01:17:36,752
MOVEMENT. IT SHOULD BE MORE 

2597
01:17:36,752 --> 01:17:37,653
LIKE, YOU KNOW, MEDICS, IT 

2598
01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:39,087
SHOULD BE MORE LIKE FREEDOM 

2599
01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:41,723
HOUSE, WHICH WASN'T A THING. 

2600
01:17:41,723 --> 01:17:42,357
AND THEN EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD, 

2601
01:17:42,357 --> 01:17:44,326
OH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT 

2602
01:17:44,326 --> 01:17:44,926
DISCIPLINE. WE NEED THAT. AND 

2603
01:17:44,926 --> 01:17:46,194
THEN TEN YEARS LATER IT WAS 

2604
01:17:46,194 --> 01:17:47,195
EVERYWHERE. AND THAT'S HOW IT 

2605
01:17:47,195 --> 01:17:48,764
NEEDS TO BE WITH MENTAL HEALTH. 

2606
01:17:48,764 --> 01:17:49,164
FIRST RESPONDERS. 

2607
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:51,700
-- I JUST END ON ONE, PLEASE. I 

2608
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:52,367
JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO TO HEAR 

2609
01:17:52,367 --> 01:17:55,470
THIS. AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES 

2610
01:17:55,470 --> 01:17:58,473
THAT THIS WAS BORN OUT OF GEORGE

2611
01:17:58,473 --> 01:18:00,709
FLOYD, DEFUND THE POLICE POST 

2612
01:18:00,709 --> 01:18:02,944
2020, COVID. AND I WORKED WITH 

2613
01:18:02,944 --> 01:18:03,812
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA ON THE SDCI

2614
01:18:03,812 --> 01:18:07,082
TO GET $10 MILLION OUT THE DOOR,

2615
01:18:07,082 --> 01:18:08,083
30 MILLION. 30 MILLION, 30 

2616
01:18:08,083 --> 01:18:11,053
MILLION OUT THE DOOR. AND SO 

2617
01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:13,722
THIS WAS A TANGIBLE PROGRAM THAT

2618
01:18:13,722 --> 01:18:14,656
STARTED WITH, WITH, WITH WHAT 

2619
01:18:14,656 --> 01:18:17,626
HAPPENED. AND IT SHOULD HAVE AND

2620
01:18:17,626 --> 01:18:21,129
I GUESS MY AS YOU KNOW, ME, I 

2621
01:18:21,129 --> 01:18:22,731
WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE THAT WE 

2622
01:18:22,731 --> 01:18:24,599
HEARD THEM AND WE CREATED THIS 

2623
01:18:24,599 --> 01:18:26,702
AND FUNDED IT AND WANTED TO MOVE

2624
01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:28,136
IT FORWARD WITHOUT ALWAYS HAVING

2625
01:18:28,136 --> 01:18:29,271
TO SLAP THE WORD PROGRESSIVE IN 

2626
01:18:29,271 --> 01:18:32,574
FRONT OF IT AND POLITICIZE IT. 

2627
01:18:32,574 --> 01:18:34,476
THAT WE LOOKED AT PEOPLE ON THE 

2628
01:18:34,476 --> 01:18:36,912
GROUND, YOU KNOW, DISRUPTORS, 

2629
01:18:36,912 --> 01:18:39,181
YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE TALKING 

2630
01:18:39,181 --> 01:18:41,216
ABOUT PROGRAMS UPSTREAM, THINGS 

2631
01:18:41,216 --> 01:18:43,285
THAT ARE THAT EXIST IN REALITY, 

2632
01:18:43,285 --> 01:18:45,454
NOT A POLITICAL SLOGAN. AND THE 

2633
01:18:45,454 --> 01:18:46,855
FACTS. AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS 

2634
01:18:46,855 --> 01:18:49,591
THOSE? AND THEN WE GOT TO THE 

2635
01:18:49,591 --> 01:18:50,425
POINT WHERE, AND ALY REMEMBERS 

2636
01:18:50,425 --> 01:18:52,027
THESE DAYS, AND GETTING TO THE 

2637
01:18:52,027 --> 01:18:54,029
POINT WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY 

2638
01:18:54,029 --> 01:18:54,629
ARTICULATE WHAT THAT LOOKED 

2639
01:18:54,629 --> 01:18:55,931
LIKE, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN A 

2640
01:18:55,931 --> 01:18:59,234
BUDGET, HOW WE FUNDED IT, HOW WE

2641
01:18:59,234 --> 01:19:00,402
EXPANDED IT, HOW WE ARE HERE 

2642
01:19:00,402 --> 01:19:01,770
WITH YOU TODAY AGAIN, TO TALK 

2643
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:02,871
ABOUT ITS GROWTH, ITS BIRTH, AND

2644
01:19:02,871 --> 01:19:04,940
WHERE WE'RE GOING AND THAT 

2645
01:19:04,940 --> 01:19:06,608
IT'S WORKING AND THAT AT A 

2646
01:19:06,608 --> 01:19:08,677
TIME, SIX, FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, 

2647
01:19:08,677 --> 01:19:09,344
PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK THAT WE 

2648
01:19:09,344 --> 01:19:10,746
COULD DO THAT. AND WE'RE DOING 

2649
01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:13,281
IT. SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS ALL 

2650
01:19:13,281 --> 01:19:15,117
GLOOM AND DOOM. AND I KNOW SOME 

2651
01:19:15,117 --> 01:19:16,284
PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF

2652
01:19:16,284 --> 01:19:18,019
WHAT WE GET, BUT IN THIS WORLD, 

2653
01:19:18,019 --> 01:19:19,755
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE SIGNED UP 

2654
01:19:19,755 --> 01:19:20,889
FOR. SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO 

2655
01:19:20,889 --> 01:19:22,424
KNOW THAT THERE IS HOPE OUT 

2656
01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:24,226
THERE. AND ONE THING THAT 

2657
01:19:24,226 --> 01:19:24,760
COUNCIL PRESIDENT I WERE 

2658
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,295
FOCUSING ON KIND OF OFFLINE, AND

2659
01:19:27,295 --> 01:19:29,631
WE'RE HOPING TO LOOK AT MORE IN

2660
01:19:29,631 --> 01:19:31,399
THE FUTURE IS NOT JUST YOUNG 

2661
01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:34,770
FOLKS WITH GUNS AFRICAN AMERICAN

2662
01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:38,073
BOYS AND GIRLS OR BOYS AND HOW 

2663
01:19:38,073 --> 01:19:39,941
THEY'RE ARRESTED, BUT ALSO 

2664
01:19:39,941 --> 01:19:41,777
BEING VICTIMS, BUT ALSO WITHIN 

2665
01:19:41,777 --> 01:19:44,012
THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN 

2666
01:19:44,012 --> 01:19:45,847
THE DECLINE HEARINGS, WHEN YOU 

2667
01:19:45,847 --> 01:19:46,815
HAVE SOMEONE UNDER 18 WHERE 

2668
01:19:46,815 --> 01:19:48,483
THERE WAS NO DISRUPTER, THERE 

2669
01:19:48,483 --> 01:19:51,386
WAS NO COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA 

2670
01:19:51,386 --> 01:19:53,588
SAYING, WHAT WAS THE TERM AGAIN,

2671
01:19:53,588 --> 01:19:55,490
INTERVENTION OR WHAT'S THE, YOU

2672
01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:58,059
KNOW, YOUR PROGRAM. 

2673
01:19:58,059 --> 01:19:58,360
-- FOCUSED, 

2674
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,427
-- FOCUS DETERRENCE. IT'S A 

2675
01:19:59,427 --> 01:20:01,396
FANCY WAY OF SAYING WHERE I GREW

2676
01:20:01,396 --> 01:20:03,665
UP IS ELDERS AND AUNTIES AND 

2677
01:20:03,665 --> 01:20:04,299
COUSINS THAT CALLED YOU UP AND 

2678
01:20:04,299 --> 01:20:06,434
SAID, YOU KNOW, GET YOUR HOME. 

2679
01:20:06,434 --> 01:20:08,136
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN NOW. 

2680
01:20:08,136 --> 01:20:08,804
YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS TOLD ME 

2681
01:20:08,804 --> 01:20:10,872
YOU WERE OUT HERE OUT RUNNING 

2682
01:20:10,872 --> 01:20:12,641
THE STREETS, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND

2683
01:20:12,641 --> 01:20:16,478
OF WHAT IT IS. AND SO I'M HOPING

2684
01:20:16,478 --> 01:20:17,546
IN THE FUTURE, AFTER I LEAVE, 

2685
01:20:17,546 --> 01:20:19,147
THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A 

2686
01:20:19,147 --> 01:20:20,582
FOCUS ON THE JUVENILE COURT 

2687
01:20:20,582 --> 01:20:22,350
SYSTEM IN THE IN THE DECLINE 

2688
01:20:22,350 --> 01:20:24,686
HEARINGS. SO WE LOOK AT WHERE 

2689
01:20:24,686 --> 01:20:25,820
ARE THESE KIDS WHEN THEY WERE 16

2690
01:20:25,820 --> 01:20:28,590
OR 17, PICKED UP A GUN AND SHOT 

2691
01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:29,691
SOMEONE, WENT TO JUVENILE COURT.

2692
01:20:29,691 --> 01:20:31,259
WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE TRIED AS 

2693
01:20:31,259 --> 01:20:33,195
ADULTS. AND THAT'S THAT'S, YOU

2694
01:20:33,195 --> 01:20:35,163
KNOW, WHEN I WAS A PUBLIC 

2695
01:20:35,163 --> 01:20:36,965
DEFENDER, I THINK THE SADDEST 

2696
01:20:36,965 --> 01:20:38,333
THING WAS, IS TO REPRESENT A 

2697
01:20:38,333 --> 01:20:40,402
YOUNG MAN IN JUVIE AND THEN GO 

2698
01:20:40,402 --> 01:20:43,738
TO FELONIES AND REPRESENT HIM IN

2699
01:20:43,738 --> 01:20:45,507
FELONIES, AND THEN BE A JUDGE 

2700
01:20:45,507 --> 01:20:47,008
WHEN THEY'RE FULL FLEDGED ADULT

2701
01:20:47,008 --> 01:20:48,777
AND THEY'RE BACK AND I'M 

2702
01:20:48,777 --> 01:20:50,245
SENTENCING THEM AGAIN, I CAN 

2703
01:20:50,245 --> 01:20:53,682
COUNT ABOUT 6 OR 7 INSTANCES OF 

2704
01:20:53,682 --> 01:20:54,950
THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE 

2705
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:56,851
SADDEST THING. AND I WAS JUST 

2706
01:20:56,851 --> 01:20:57,686
TELLING COUNCIL PRESIDENT THIS, 

2707
01:20:57,686 --> 01:21:00,555
ALL OF THESE ARE KIDS OF COLOR. 

2708
01:21:00,555 --> 01:21:02,791
AND SO WHEN I GO BACK TO THOSE 

2709
01:21:02,791 --> 01:21:04,426
ARE OUR BABIES BEING SHOT. THOSE

2710
01:21:04,426 --> 01:21:06,661
ARE OUR KIDS PICKING UP GUNS. 

2711
01:21:06,661 --> 01:21:08,496
AND SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I GET

2712
01:21:08,496 --> 01:21:09,631
A LITTLE IRRITATED. AND THIS IS 

2713
01:21:09,631 --> 01:21:10,966
THE NICE PART ABOUT GETTING OLD 

2714
01:21:10,966 --> 01:21:12,000
IS, YOU KNOW, YOU BECOME A 

2715
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,868
WITNESS TO A LOT OF THINGS. SO I

2716
01:21:13,868 --> 01:21:15,303
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL 

2717
01:21:15,303 --> 01:21:16,805
YOUR HARD WORK. I KNOW IT'S BEEN

2718
01:21:16,805 --> 01:21:19,007
IT'S BEEN A SLOG SINCE 2023. I 

2719
01:21:19,007 --> 01:21:20,108
WANT TO THANK ALY TOO, BECAUSE 

2720
01:21:20,108 --> 01:21:22,244
SHE WAS THERE IN THE EARLY DAYS 

2721
01:21:22,244 --> 01:21:24,379
TO POST 2020 AND DURING COVID 

2722
01:21:24,379 --> 01:21:26,881
AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND 

2723
01:21:26,881 --> 01:21:27,482
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. SO WE 

2724
01:21:27,482 --> 01:21:28,450
KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE DID IT. I 

2725
01:21:28,450 --> 01:21:30,385
MEAN, WE WORKED REALLY HARD. SO 

2726
01:21:30,385 --> 01:21:30,685
THANK YOU. 

2727
01:21:30,685 --> 01:21:32,988
-- YEAH. 

2728
01:21:32,988 --> 01:21:34,489
-- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

2729
01:21:34,489 --> 01:21:35,123
EMERITUS, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE

2730
01:21:35,123 --> 01:21:36,491
COMMITTEE TABLE AT THIS TIME? 

2731
01:21:36,491 --> 01:21:39,461
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 

2732
01:21:39,461 --> 01:21:40,996
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA NEXT 

2733
01:21:40,996 --> 01:21:41,429
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

2734
01:21:41,429 --> 01:21:42,063
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

2735
01:21:42,063 --> 01:21:43,598
YOU, CHIEF BARDEN, FOR BEING 

2736
01:21:43,598 --> 01:21:45,200
HERE TODAY. REALLY, REALLY 

2737
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,270
APPRECIATE THE OVERVIEW. THE 

2738
01:21:48,270 --> 01:21:50,405
PRESENTATION AND LET THE RECORD 

2739
01:21:50,405 --> 01:21:51,573
REFLECT. I WAS I WAS BOBBING MY 

2740
01:21:51,573 --> 01:21:55,043
HEAD AND FIRM AGREEANCE WITH 

2741
01:21:55,043 --> 01:21:55,844
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ COMMENTS. 

2742
01:21:55,844 --> 01:21:57,579
APPRECIATE THAT. AND FRANKLY, I,

2743
01:21:57,579 --> 01:21:59,047
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE ALL 

2744
01:21:59,047 --> 01:22:01,283
THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES 

2745
01:22:01,283 --> 01:22:03,084
AGREE WITH ALL EVERYTHING THAT 

2746
01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:09,424
WAS SAID AND PLUS ONE ON COUNCIL

2747
01:22:09,424 --> 01:22:11,459
PRESIDENT'S NOTION ABOUT KPIS 

2748
01:22:11,459 --> 01:22:12,394
BEING IMPORTANT AND, YOU KNOW, 

2749
01:22:12,394 --> 01:22:13,862
LACK OF CLARITY THERE I TO HAVE 

2750
01:22:13,862 --> 01:22:17,198
LACK OF SOME SOME LACK OF 

2751
01:22:17,198 --> 01:22:20,235
CLARITY ON THAT AND ALSO A 

2752
01:22:20,235 --> 01:22:23,104
RELATED KIND OF CONSTRUCT OF 

2753
01:22:23,104 --> 01:22:26,408
OKRS OBJECTIVE KEY RESULTS. BUT 

2754
01:22:26,408 --> 01:22:29,411
HELP ME, HELP ME BETTER 

2755
01:22:29,411 --> 01:22:32,414
UNDERSTAND CHIEF SO REALLY 

2756
01:22:32,414 --> 01:22:34,015
APPRECIATE ALL THE GREAT WORK 

2757
01:22:34,015 --> 01:22:36,384
GOING ON IN THE IN THE DISTRICT 

2758
01:22:36,384 --> 01:22:37,319
AND ACROSS THE CITY AND WOULD 

2759
01:22:37,319 --> 01:22:39,254
LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO, TO DO MORE.

2760
01:22:39,254 --> 01:22:41,022
AND, AND I THINK SOME REALLY 

2761
01:22:41,022 --> 01:22:41,823
SPECIFIC THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN 

2762
01:22:41,823 --> 01:22:44,025
TO FULLY UNLOCK THE CAPABILITIES

2763
01:22:44,025 --> 01:22:45,493
OF THE, THE, THE CARE 

2764
01:22:45,493 --> 01:22:46,928
DEPARTMENT, AT LEAST WITH 

2765
01:22:46,928 --> 01:22:50,832
RESPECT TO THE RESPONSE 

2766
01:22:50,832 --> 01:22:52,167
CAPABILITY AND BUT I'M GLAD 

2767
01:22:52,167 --> 01:22:53,969
THAT THAT YOU ALL EXIST AND I'M

2768
01:22:53,969 --> 01:22:56,004
GLAD YOU ALL ARE THERE TO, TO 

2769
01:22:56,004 --> 01:23:00,108
PROVIDE THIS THIS REALLY GOOD, 

2770
01:23:00,108 --> 01:23:01,710
REALLY GOOD SERVICE. AND WE CAN 

2771
01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:03,511
IMPROVE THROUGH SOME THINGS. BUT

2772
01:23:03,511 --> 01:23:04,813
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING, DOING

2773
01:23:04,813 --> 01:23:06,848
A LOT OF WORK. AND I KNOW MY 

2774
01:23:06,848 --> 01:23:08,516
CONSTITUENTS APPRECIATE IT, 

2775
01:23:08,516 --> 01:23:10,385
ESPECIALLY IN HIGH USE AREAS 

2776
01:23:10,385 --> 01:23:12,921
LIKE GEORGETOWN AND SOTO. SO ON 

2777
01:23:12,921 --> 01:23:16,691
ONE OF YOUR SLIDES, IT SAYS THE 

2778
01:23:16,691 --> 01:23:18,860
CURRENT MODEL IS I THINK IT'S 

2779
01:23:18,860 --> 01:23:19,894
SLIDE 8 OR 7 OR SOMETHING LIKE 

2780
01:23:19,894 --> 01:23:22,530
THAT, TALKS ABOUT THE CURRENT 

2781
01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:26,167
OPERATIONS MODEL. AND AT SEVEN 

2782
01:23:26,167 --> 01:23:30,338
DAYS A WEEK, PRESUMABLY, AND OUT

2783
01:23:30,338 --> 01:23:33,274
OF THOSE FIVE LOCATIONS FROM 

2784
01:23:33,274 --> 01:23:35,243
THOSE SPECIFIC HOURS IS, IS THAT

2785
01:23:35,243 --> 01:23:36,211
IS THAT SEVEN? IS THAT SEVEN 

2786
01:23:36,211 --> 01:23:40,048
DAYS A WEEK 

2787
01:23:40,048 --> 01:23:40,281
-- YES. 

2788
01:23:40,281 --> 01:23:42,250
-- SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. OKAY. SO 

2789
01:23:42,250 --> 01:23:44,319
WITH THE PLAN REDUCTIONS IN 

2790
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:51,192
THOSE VACANT POSITIONS. WHAT'S 

2791
01:23:51,192 --> 01:23:53,128
THE LONGER TERM IMPACT LIKELY TO

2792
01:23:53,128 --> 01:23:54,729
BE? YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, 

2793
01:23:54,729 --> 01:23:56,931
YOU KNOW, THE THE DEPARTMENT 

2794
01:23:56,931 --> 01:23:59,234
NEEDS TO DO SOME THINGS, BE MORE

2795
01:23:59,234 --> 01:24:02,670
INTENTIONAL AND FOCUS ABOUT KIND

2796
01:24:02,670 --> 01:24:04,105
OF SCALING AND ENSURING THE 

2797
01:24:04,105 --> 01:24:06,007
OUTCOMES ARE A LITTLE MORE 

2798
01:24:06,007 --> 01:24:09,077
EFFECTIVE. MAYBE THAT WAS MY, MY

2799
01:24:09,077 --> 01:24:10,812
INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU SAID,

2800
01:24:10,812 --> 01:24:13,081
BUT I GENERALLY AGREE. WHAT DOES

2801
01:24:13,081 --> 01:24:14,983
THAT MEAN? WHAT DO THESE 

2802
01:24:14,983 --> 01:24:17,752
REDUCTIONS MEAN? BOTH IN THE 

2803
01:24:17,752 --> 01:24:19,821
SHORT TERM AND ESPECIALLY LONG 

2804
01:24:19,821 --> 01:24:23,892
TERM FOR GROWING AND SCALING THE

2805
01:24:23,892 --> 01:24:26,828
THE CARE TEAM, IDEALLY, OR 

2806
01:24:26,828 --> 01:24:30,131
POTENTIALLY TO BE A A TRUE 24/7,

2807
01:24:30,131 --> 01:24:32,500
365 RESPONSE CAPABILITY, WHICH 

2808
01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:34,803
WOULD MAKE THE DEPARTMENT TRULY 

2809
01:24:34,803 --> 01:24:37,205
CO-EQUAL. 

2810
01:24:37,205 --> 01:24:37,472
-- YEAH. 

2811
01:24:37,472 --> 01:24:41,976
-- TO FIRE AND AND SPD, WHICH IT

2812
01:24:41,976 --> 01:24:44,546
IS. BUT YEAH. WHAT'S THE IMPACT?

2813
01:24:44,546 --> 01:24:47,048
-- YES. WELL, THERE'S NO IMPACT

2814
01:24:47,048 --> 01:24:48,516
DEVIATING FROM THE SLIDE. SO WE 

2815
01:24:48,516 --> 01:24:49,918
HAVE EXPANDED TO THOSE HOURS 

2816
01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:51,186
CITYWIDE. WE WERE ALWAYS SEVEN 

2817
01:24:51,186 --> 01:24:52,720
DAYS A WEEK. WE STARTED OUT 12 

2818
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,123
HOURS A DAY. AND SO NOW WE'VE 

2819
01:24:55,123 --> 01:24:56,458
EXPANDED TO ALL OF THE HOURS. 

2820
01:24:56,458 --> 01:24:57,892
WE'RE THERE ARE MANY, MANY 

2821
01:24:57,892 --> 01:25:00,895
CRISIS CALLS COMING IN BETWEEN 

2822
01:25:00,895 --> 01:25:01,830
THE HOURS OF ABOUT 2 A.M. AND 6 

2823
01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:03,998
A.M. THERE'S NOT AS MANY CALLS.

2824
01:25:03,998 --> 01:25:05,266
AND I WOULD LIKE IN THE SHORT 

2825
01:25:05,266 --> 01:25:07,335
RUN, TO BE ABLE TO REDIRECT SOME

2826
01:25:07,335 --> 01:25:08,837
OF THOSE CALLS TO THE COUNTY 

2827
01:25:08,837 --> 01:25:12,240
TEAM, WHO IS 24/7. I SHARE THAT 

2828
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,309
URGENT PRIORITY TO GET TO 24/7. 

2829
01:25:14,309 --> 01:25:15,610
I JUST THINK THAT IS SORT OF THE

2830
01:25:15,610 --> 01:25:17,212
DEFINITION OF FIRST RESPONDER, 

2831
01:25:17,212 --> 01:25:19,681
RIGHT? IF YOU CALL 911 AT ANY 

2832
01:25:19,681 --> 01:25:20,648
HOUR, ANY PLACE IN THE CITY, YOU

2833
01:25:20,648 --> 01:25:22,951
CAN GET THIS RESPONSE IF IT'S 

2834
01:25:22,951 --> 01:25:23,852
APPROPRIATE. AND SO NOT 

2835
01:25:23,852 --> 01:25:25,787
EXPANDING BEYOND 32 WILL LIMIT 

2836
01:25:25,787 --> 01:25:28,723
OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT. I WILL 

2837
01:25:28,723 --> 01:25:30,225
ALSO BE VERY CLEAR AND 

2838
01:25:30,225 --> 01:25:32,093
COLLABORATIVE WHEN WE ARE BEYOND

2839
01:25:32,093 --> 01:25:33,027
CAPACITY. WE'RE GETTING MORE 

2840
01:25:33,027 --> 01:25:33,962
CALLS THAN WE CAN POSSIBLY TAKE.

2841
01:25:33,962 --> 01:25:36,564
I WILL LET EVERYBODY KNOW SO 

2842
01:25:36,564 --> 01:25:38,433
THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT IN 

2843
01:25:38,433 --> 01:25:40,301
FUTURE AS WE BALANCE THE PUBLIC 

2844
01:25:40,301 --> 01:25:41,269
SAFETY BUDGET AND THINK ABOUT 

2845
01:25:41,269 --> 01:25:43,738
INVESTMENTS, OR SOMETIMES 

2846
01:25:43,738 --> 01:25:46,407
SOMETIMES CARE QUALIFIES FOR 

2847
01:25:46,407 --> 01:25:48,443
GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDING REVENUE

2848
01:25:48,443 --> 01:25:50,345
SOURCES IN WAYS THAT TRADITIONAL

2849
01:25:50,345 --> 01:25:51,312
PUBLIC SAFETY TEAMS DO NOT. 

2850
01:25:51,312 --> 01:25:54,215
WE'VE GOTTEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF 

2851
01:25:54,215 --> 01:25:56,150
GRANTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO

2852
01:25:56,150 --> 01:25:57,852
OUR CONGRESS PEOPLE, TO JAYAPAL 

2853
01:25:57,852 --> 01:25:59,053
AND SMITH. AND SO I CAN IMAGINE 

2854
01:25:59,053 --> 01:26:00,855
THAT BEING A SHORT TERM 

2855
01:26:00,855 --> 01:26:02,557
STRATEGY. BUT THESE WILL BE THE 

2856
01:26:02,557 --> 01:26:06,661
HOURS AND THE DAYS GOING FORWARD

2857
01:26:06,661 --> 01:26:07,061
WITH THIS STAFF. 

2858
01:26:07,061 --> 01:26:09,163
-- OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. 

2859
01:26:09,163 --> 01:26:10,798
FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO DO A 

2860
01:26:10,798 --> 01:26:13,535
SPECIAL PLUS ONE TO 

2861
01:26:13,535 --> 01:26:16,204
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND HER 

2862
01:26:16,204 --> 01:26:18,806
NON-EMERGENCY LINE COMMENTS. AND

2863
01:26:18,806 --> 01:26:20,041
PRIOR LEADERSHIP, CONSISTENT 

2864
01:26:20,041 --> 01:26:22,677
LEADERSHIP ON THAT. IT'S A 

2865
01:26:22,677 --> 01:26:23,611
VITAL SERVICE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE

2866
01:26:23,611 --> 01:26:26,714
NEED TO WE NEED TO DO BETTER. 

2867
01:26:26,714 --> 01:26:28,249
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

2868
01:26:28,249 --> 01:26:30,985
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA

2869
01:26:30,985 --> 01:26:32,320
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. I SEE YOU 

2870
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,089
HAVE HAD A HAND UP. IF YOU CAN 

2871
01:26:35,089 --> 01:26:37,058
BE QUICK, WE'RE. BUT WE'VE GOT

2872
01:26:37,058 --> 01:26:37,659
SOME TIME. 

2873
01:26:37,659 --> 01:26:40,161
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR, THIS IS 

2874
01:26:40,161 --> 01:26:41,663
JUST IT'S IT'S AN IMPORTANT 

2875
01:26:41,663 --> 01:26:43,531
DAY, CHAIR. SO THANK YOU FOR 

2876
01:26:43,531 --> 01:26:46,501
LETTING US ALL TAKE OUR TIME 

2877
01:26:46,501 --> 01:26:47,702
WITH ASKING QUESTIONS, BECAUSE 

2878
01:26:47,702 --> 01:26:49,737
THIS IS REALLY OUR ONE 

2879
01:26:49,737 --> 01:26:51,339
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR

2880
01:26:51,339 --> 01:26:52,507
THE PUBLIC WHO REALLY ARE 

2881
01:26:52,507 --> 01:26:53,141
WATCHING. BECAUSE I'VE HEARD 

2882
01:26:53,141 --> 01:26:56,277
FROM FOLKS WHO, WHO ARE WATCHING

2883
01:26:56,277 --> 01:26:57,045
THESE SESSIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR

2884
01:26:57,045 --> 01:26:59,914
THAT. I JUST WANTED TO WELL, 

2885
01:26:59,914 --> 01:27:02,116
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK 

2886
01:27:02,116 --> 01:27:03,818
COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR HER 

2887
01:27:03,818 --> 01:27:04,319
DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE 

2888
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:06,254
PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND 

2889
01:27:06,254 --> 01:27:08,957
ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S 

2890
01:27:08,957 --> 01:27:11,225
REALLY IMPORTANT. AND IT IS ALSO

2891
01:27:11,225 --> 01:27:13,361
IMPORTANT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE 

2892
01:27:13,361 --> 01:27:15,797
NATIONAL NETWORKS FOCUSED 

2893
01:27:15,797 --> 01:27:19,033
DETERRENCE, BECAUSE THAT EFFORT 

2894
01:27:19,033 --> 01:27:19,500
WAS BORN OUT OF THIS 

2895
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:20,034
INTERSECTION BETWEEN THE 

2896
01:27:20,034 --> 01:27:21,636
INTERVENTION AND ENFORCEMENT 

2897
01:27:21,636 --> 01:27:24,005
PIECE, BECAUSE REALLY, IT WAS 

2898
01:27:24,005 --> 01:27:26,240
THIS IDEA THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY 

2899
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,309
OR WE'VE WE HAVE RESEARCHED AND

2900
01:27:28,309 --> 01:27:29,711
IDENTIFIED THAT IT IS A VERY 

2901
01:27:29,711 --> 01:27:31,779
SMALL SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION 

2902
01:27:31,779 --> 01:27:32,981
WHO'S ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH 

2903
01:27:32,981 --> 01:27:34,682
GUN VIOLENCE. SO WHY DON'T WE 

2904
01:27:34,682 --> 01:27:39,053
FOCUS ON THEM? WE KNOW THAT THEY

2905
01:27:39,053 --> 01:27:40,655
HAVE NUMEROUS CRIMES THAT 

2906
01:27:40,655 --> 01:27:42,290
THEY'VE COMMITTED. AND SO THEY 

2907
01:27:42,290 --> 01:27:44,759
WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT 

2908
01:27:44,759 --> 01:27:46,394
THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE 

2909
01:27:46,394 --> 01:27:48,496
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM LEADING 

2910
01:27:48,496 --> 01:27:49,931
INTO INTO INCARCERATION. AND IS 

2911
01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:52,700
THERE A WAY WE CAN INTERVENE 

2912
01:27:52,700 --> 01:27:54,202
SPECIFICALLY WITH THOSE FOLKS, 

2913
01:27:54,202 --> 01:27:58,673
NOT WITH THE ECOSYSTEM WRIT 

2914
01:27:58,673 --> 01:27:59,807
LARGE ON GUN VIOLENCE, BUT WITH 

2915
01:27:59,807 --> 01:28:00,775
THESE PARTICULAR FOLKS? CAN WE 

2916
01:28:00,775 --> 01:28:02,777
PARTNER SHOULD WE PARTNER WITH 

2917
01:28:02,777 --> 01:28:04,812
COMMUNITY, THOSE MORAL VOICES, 

2918
01:28:04,812 --> 01:28:06,581
THE AUNTIES AS COUNCILMEMBER 

2919
01:28:06,581 --> 01:28:08,349
JUAREZ LIKES TO SAY, I AGREE, 

2920
01:28:08,349 --> 01:28:09,884
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, THAT'S 

2921
01:28:09,884 --> 01:28:11,352
HOW WE COULD KEPT KIDS, YOU 

2922
01:28:11,352 --> 01:28:13,254
KNOW, ON THE STRAIGHT AND 

2923
01:28:13,254 --> 01:28:14,322
NARROW. BY THE TIME YOU GOT 

2924
01:28:14,322 --> 01:28:16,157
HOME, SOMEONE MADE A CALL TO 

2925
01:28:16,157 --> 01:28:17,358
YOUR MOM. IF YOU STEPPED OUT OF 

2926
01:28:17,358 --> 01:28:21,629
LINE AT ALL. SO THOSE MORAL 

2927
01:28:21,629 --> 01:28:24,198
VOICES AND THE PROVIDERS, 

2928
01:28:24,198 --> 01:28:24,832
BECAUSE WE PROVIDE SERVICES AS 

2929
01:28:24,832 --> 01:28:27,735
WE SHOULD AS A CITY, AND THEN 

2930
01:28:27,735 --> 01:28:29,737
ALSO LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE SAME

2931
01:28:29,737 --> 01:28:31,539
TABLE AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER. 

2932
01:28:31,539 --> 01:28:33,307
AND SO I WILL SAY, WHEN YOU 

2933
01:28:33,307 --> 01:28:35,777
TALKED ABOUT OPERATION 

2934
01:28:35,777 --> 01:28:38,313
CEASEFIRE, THAT WAS ALSO THE 

2935
01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:39,681
SAME PERSON WHO CREATED THE 

2936
01:28:39,681 --> 01:28:42,784
FOCUSED DETERRENCE MODEL. AND IT

2937
01:28:42,784 --> 01:28:45,019
WAS FIRST PILOTED AS PART OF 

2938
01:28:45,019 --> 01:28:46,521
CEASEFIRE IN 1996 IN BOSTON. SO 

2939
01:28:46,521 --> 01:28:49,257
IT WAS I KNOW YOU KNOW, YOU 

2940
01:28:49,257 --> 01:28:50,858
RAISED IT EARLIER TODAY. SO I 

2941
01:28:50,858 --> 01:28:53,194
SAY THAT TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT

2942
01:28:53,194 --> 01:28:54,896
THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT IS. AND 

2943
01:28:54,896 --> 01:28:56,664
COLLEAGUES, I ALSO WANTED TO 

2944
01:28:56,664 --> 01:28:58,032
ADDRESS THE NATIONAL NETWORK FOR

2945
01:28:58,032 --> 01:28:59,534
SAFE COMMUNITIES. THERE'S A LOT

2946
01:28:59,534 --> 01:29:02,937
OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

2947
01:29:02,937 --> 01:29:04,105
WHY THEM AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE. 

2948
01:29:04,105 --> 01:29:07,308
AND I WILL SAY THAT ONE IS 

2949
01:29:07,308 --> 01:29:08,543
THEY'RE THE EXPERTS. THEY 

2950
01:29:08,543 --> 01:29:10,178
CREATED IT. THE OTHER IS 

2951
01:29:10,178 --> 01:29:13,414
SUBSEQUENT MODELS HAVE HAVE COME

2952
01:29:13,414 --> 01:29:16,017
AFTER THAT, BUT THEY DON'T 

2953
01:29:16,017 --> 01:29:16,651
INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE 

2954
01:29:16,651 --> 01:29:18,086
SAME WAY THEY INVOLVE LAW 

2955
01:29:18,086 --> 01:29:19,487
ENFORCEMENT IN THE WAY YOU 

2956
01:29:19,487 --> 01:29:22,190
DESCRIBED EARLIER. CHAIR BARDEN.

2957
01:29:22,190 --> 01:29:23,925
I MEAN, CHIEF BARDEN IN THAT 

2958
01:29:23,925 --> 01:29:25,426
THEY MIGHT CONSULT WITH LAW 

2959
01:29:25,426 --> 01:29:26,794
ENFORCEMENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT 

2960
01:29:26,794 --> 01:29:29,130
ALL AT THE SAME TABLE TOGETHER 

2961
01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:30,998
WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL, LITERALLY 

2962
01:29:30,998 --> 01:29:32,300
AT THE TABLE IN THE WAY YOU ARE 

2963
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:34,602
NOW. SO THAT'S WHY NATIONAL 

2964
01:29:34,602 --> 01:29:37,171
NETWORK, AND TO THE POINT ABOUT,

2965
01:29:37,171 --> 01:29:38,906
YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE A 

2966
01:29:38,906 --> 01:29:41,175
CONSULTING CONTRACT FOR 

2967
01:29:41,175 --> 01:29:44,112
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM, 

2968
01:29:44,112 --> 01:29:47,715
MAYORS HAVE, OVER THE YEARS, 

2969
01:29:47,715 --> 01:29:48,182
DIRECT CONTRACTS WITH 

2970
01:29:48,182 --> 01:29:49,884
CONSULTANTS TO HELP ADVISE AND 

2971
01:29:49,884 --> 01:29:51,386
IMPLEMENT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. 

2972
01:29:51,386 --> 01:29:53,521
AND I WILL SAY THIS PARTICULAR 

2973
01:29:53,521 --> 01:29:54,255
MAYOR CONSULTED WITH THEM. WHY 

2974
01:29:54,255 --> 01:29:57,325
YOU ON THE CCTV STUDY AND WHY 

2975
01:29:57,325 --> 01:29:59,160
YOU IS ONE OF MANY CONSULTANTS, 

2976
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,496
BUT THAT'S THE ONE SHE CHOSE TO

2977
01:30:01,496 --> 01:30:03,064
PARTNER WITH. LOOKING AT THE FAS

2978
01:30:03,064 --> 01:30:05,233
WEBSITE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS 

2979
01:30:05,233 --> 01:30:11,272
AUTHORIZED TO BE UP TO $233,000.

2980
01:30:11,272 --> 01:30:13,741
AND SO AND SHE WENT WITH NYU 

2981
01:30:13,741 --> 01:30:14,909
BECAUSE PRESUMABLY SHE LIKED 

2982
01:30:14,909 --> 01:30:16,711
THEIR PROGRAM. THIS IS NOT 

2983
01:30:16,711 --> 01:30:18,646
DISSIMILAR TO THAT. AND I AGAIN,

2984
01:30:18,646 --> 01:30:21,883
I SAY THIS TO SAY, IF FOLKS 

2985
01:30:21,883 --> 01:30:22,884
DON'T WANT TO WORK, IF THE 

2986
01:30:22,884 --> 01:30:24,352
MAYOR DOESN'T WANT TO WORK WITH

2987
01:30:24,352 --> 01:30:25,820
THE NATIONAL NETWORK, SHE SHOULD

2988
01:30:25,820 --> 01:30:28,156
SAY SO. BUT THE IDEA THAT THIS 

2989
01:30:28,156 --> 01:30:28,790
IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE 

2990
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:30,758
BEEN DOING, MAYORS DIRECT 

2991
01:30:30,758 --> 01:30:34,095
CONTRACT WITH CONSULTANTS FOR 

2992
01:30:34,095 --> 01:30:36,063
SERVICES. WHY? BECAUSE THEY 

2993
01:30:36,063 --> 01:30:37,532
TRULY ARE THE EXPERTS AND THEY 

2994
01:30:37,532 --> 01:30:39,934
WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE

2995
01:30:39,934 --> 01:30:41,035
WAY WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH 

2996
01:30:41,035 --> 01:30:44,839
LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A PARTNER AT 

2997
01:30:44,839 --> 01:30:46,174
THE TABLE. SO I REALLY WANTED TO

2998
01:30:46,174 --> 01:30:50,311
SAY THAT, BUT ALSO THANK COUNCIL

2999
01:30:50,311 --> 01:30:50,945
PRESIDENT FOR HER DISTINCTION, 

3000
01:30:50,945 --> 01:30:53,448
BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A LOT IN THE

3001
01:30:53,448 --> 01:30:55,016
PREVENTION SPACE, A LOT IN THE 

3002
01:30:55,016 --> 01:30:55,817
INTERVENTION SPACE, BUT WE'RE 

3003
01:30:55,817 --> 01:30:58,085
NOT DOING THIS FOCUSED 

3004
01:30:58,085 --> 01:31:00,087
DETERRENCE THING. CARIBE WAS 

3005
01:31:00,087 --> 01:31:01,355
BORN OUT OF THE AUDIT. I'M 

3006
01:31:01,355 --> 01:31:04,258
SORRY, NOT CARE. THE THE 

3007
01:31:04,258 --> 01:31:05,993
TRANSFERRING THE WORK TO CARE 

3008
01:31:05,993 --> 01:31:08,963
WAS BORN OUT OF THE AUDIT. SO 

3009
01:31:08,963 --> 01:31:09,530
WAS THIS FOCUSED DETERRENCE 

3010
01:31:09,530 --> 01:31:11,199
PIECE DESCRIBED IN THIS WAY WITH

3011
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:13,301
LAW ENFORCEMENT, SPECIFICALLY. 

3012
01:31:13,301 --> 01:31:15,303
AND WE HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED 

3013
01:31:15,303 --> 01:31:17,405
THAT, BUT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THE

3014
01:31:17,405 --> 01:31:19,373
NAO THIS YEAR STARTING TO BRING 

3015
01:31:19,373 --> 01:31:22,210
THE CONTRACTS OVER. AND THEN A 

3016
01:31:22,210 --> 01:31:23,177
CHAIR. I KNOW WE HAVE TO MOVE 

3017
01:31:23,177 --> 01:31:24,445
ON, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I JUST 

3018
01:31:24,445 --> 01:31:28,316
WANT TO SAY I AM CONFUSED ABOUT 

3019
01:31:28,316 --> 01:31:30,284
THEM. WHAT CONTRACTS ARE 

3020
01:31:30,284 --> 01:31:31,385
ACTUALLY COMING OVER TO CARE? 

3021
01:31:31,385 --> 01:31:32,186
BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU 

3022
01:31:32,186 --> 01:31:34,355
SAY, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT 

3023
01:31:34,355 --> 01:31:35,923
CERTAIN CONTRACTS ARE COMING 

3024
01:31:35,923 --> 01:31:37,758
OVER, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE 

3025
01:31:37,758 --> 01:31:41,195
THIS IS NOT FULLY BAKED, BUT WE 

3026
01:31:41,195 --> 01:31:41,829
CAN FOLLOW UP OFFLINE BECAUSE I 

3027
01:31:41,829 --> 01:31:43,898
REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND 

3028
01:31:43,898 --> 01:31:45,800
WHAT'S STAYING AT HSD AND 

3029
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,502
WHAT'S ACTUALLY MOVING TO CARE 

3030
01:31:47,502 --> 01:31:49,337
AND WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS FOR 

3031
01:31:49,337 --> 01:31:50,438
THE CARE DEPARTMENT. WE NEED TO 

3032
01:31:50,438 --> 01:31:52,607
BE CLEAR ON THE EXPECTATION SO 

3033
01:31:52,607 --> 01:31:55,176
THAT WE KNOW ABOUT, AS MANY OF 

3034
01:31:55,176 --> 01:31:59,080
US HERE HAVE SAID, THE OUTCOMES.

3035
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,414
AND IF WE'RE NOT CLEAR, THEN WE

3036
01:32:00,414 --> 01:32:02,083
WON'T KNOW WHAT OUTCOMES TO 

3037
01:32:02,083 --> 01:32:03,684
TRACK. 

3038
01:32:03,684 --> 01:32:05,086
-- I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT MANY 

3039
01:32:05,086 --> 01:32:06,587
PEOPLE ARE EXPERT. I HAVE SEEN 

3040
01:32:06,587 --> 01:32:08,089
THE NINE CONTRACTS THAT ARE 

3041
01:32:08,089 --> 01:32:08,990
COMING OVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. 

3042
01:32:08,990 --> 01:32:10,091
I HAVE NOT EVEN MET WITH THE 

3043
01:32:10,091 --> 01:32:11,993
PROVIDERS YET, SO I AM NEW. I 

3044
01:32:11,993 --> 01:32:13,828
CAN SEE THE LINE ITEMS AND THE 

3045
01:32:13,828 --> 01:32:14,829
BUDGET AND UNDERSTAND, OKAY, 

3046
01:32:14,829 --> 01:32:16,364
THIS IS VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION. 

3047
01:32:16,364 --> 01:32:20,034
BUT TO YOUR VERY FIRST POINT, 

3048
01:32:20,034 --> 01:32:20,935
PEOPLE OFTEN USE A SERIES OF 

3049
01:32:20,935 --> 01:32:22,503
WORDS TO MEAN MANY, MANY 

3050
01:32:22,503 --> 01:32:24,906
DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO I'M NOT

3051
01:32:24,906 --> 01:32:26,274
CLEAR WHO IS DOING WHAT AND WHAT

3052
01:32:26,274 --> 01:32:28,242
NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THAT'S JUST 

3053
01:32:28,242 --> 01:32:29,810
MY IGNORANCE. IT IS KNOWN IN 

3054
01:32:29,810 --> 01:32:33,381
HSD, JUST NOT BY ME. YET. 

3055
01:32:33,381 --> 01:32:34,682
-- THANK YOU. 

3056
01:32:34,682 --> 01:32:36,317
-- SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO 

3057
01:32:36,317 --> 01:32:37,551
GET CLARITY ON THAT. THANK YOU. 

3058
01:32:37,551 --> 01:32:37,952
THANK YOU CHAIR. 

3059
01:32:37,952 --> 01:32:39,587
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

3060
01:32:39,587 --> 01:32:40,721
RIVERA IT COLLEAGUES WHO ARE 

3061
01:32:40,721 --> 01:32:43,658
NEW. I GUESS IT'S EDDIE. 

3062
01:32:43,658 --> 01:32:44,258
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER AND LIN. 

3063
01:32:44,258 --> 01:32:45,526
IT'S NEW. YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT

3064
01:32:45,526 --> 01:32:49,497
THIS PROCESS THAT I WILL START 

3065
01:32:49,497 --> 01:32:51,232
GOOGLE MAPPING OUR TIME OF EXIT 

3066
01:32:51,232 --> 01:32:52,500
AT. CURRENTLY, IF WE CONTINUE ON

3067
01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:54,702
THIS TRAJECTORY, WE WILL BE HERE

3068
01:32:54,702 --> 01:32:57,471
TILL FIVE. SO THE. FROM HERE ON 

3069
01:32:57,471 --> 01:32:59,173
OUT, I'M GOING TO ASK. EVERYONE

3070
01:32:59,173 --> 01:33:01,075
GETS ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK 

3071
01:33:01,075 --> 01:33:02,810
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE 

3072
01:33:02,810 --> 01:33:04,178
FORWARD. I HAVE POTENTIALLY UP 

3073
01:33:04,178 --> 01:33:05,680
TO 15 MINUTES OF CONVERSATION. 

3074
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,681
SO THAT'S PART OF WHY I WAS 

3075
01:33:06,681 --> 01:33:08,549
ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.

3076
01:33:08,549 --> 01:33:10,151
SO I MIGHT MAKE A LOT OF 

3077
01:33:10,151 --> 01:33:11,485
STATEMENTS AND JUST PUT MY 

3078
01:33:11,485 --> 01:33:13,587
QUESTIONS ON THE RECORD FOR US 

3079
01:33:13,587 --> 01:33:14,355
TO FOLLOW UP ON IN THE INTEREST 

3080
01:33:14,355 --> 01:33:16,657
OF TIME. AND YES, MY TIMER IS 

3081
01:33:16,657 --> 01:33:17,959
ON. AND YES, MY TIMER COUNTS 

3082
01:33:17,959 --> 01:33:21,462
YOUR RESPONSES AS THE TIME THAT 

3083
01:33:21,462 --> 01:33:24,899
I HAVE OCCUPIED HERE IN 

3084
01:33:24,899 --> 01:33:27,969
COMMITTEE. I WANT TO START WHERE

3085
01:33:27,969 --> 01:33:28,536
COUNCIL PRESIDENT EMERITUS 

3086
01:33:28,536 --> 01:33:30,071
JUAREZ LEFT OFF TALKING ABOUT 

3087
01:33:30,071 --> 01:33:33,307
THE 6 OR 7 YOUTH THAT SHE HAD IN

3088
01:33:33,307 --> 01:33:38,312
IN HER LIFE THAT HAD PUT A LOT 

3089
01:33:38,312 --> 01:33:41,315
OF BODIES ON THE GROUND. I WAS 

3090
01:33:41,315 --> 01:33:41,882
SPEAKING TO ANOTHER ELECTED 

3091
01:33:41,882 --> 01:33:43,985
OFFICIAL YESTERDAY OF A 

3092
01:33:43,985 --> 01:33:45,152
NEIGHBORING CITY TO SEATTLE 

3093
01:33:45,152 --> 01:33:46,387
ABOUT THE YOUTH GUN VIOLENCE 

3094
01:33:46,387 --> 01:33:48,255
THAT'S OCCURRING, BECAUSE IT'S

3095
01:33:48,255 --> 01:33:49,290
NOT JUST WITHIN OUR CITY 

3096
01:33:49,290 --> 01:33:51,659
BOUNDARIES. IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'VE

3097
01:33:51,659 --> 01:33:52,960
READ THE STORIES ABOUT THE TWO 

3098
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,462
KIDS WALKING IN. I BELIEVE IT 

3099
01:33:54,462 --> 01:33:55,863
WAS TUKWILA OR SEATAC, WHERE 

3100
01:33:55,863 --> 01:33:57,732
ONLY ONE CAME HOME. AND WE'VE 

3101
01:33:57,732 --> 01:33:59,300
BEEN READING THE NEWS ABOUT ALL 

3102
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:02,837
THESE, THESE KIDS WITH GUNS AND 

3103
01:34:02,837 --> 01:34:05,873
THE PERSON I WAS TALKING TO 

3104
01:34:05,873 --> 01:34:06,507
YESTERDAY MENTIONED THE PERSON 

3105
01:34:06,507 --> 01:34:08,275
THAT THEY KNOW WHO IS UNDER 18 

3106
01:34:08,275 --> 01:34:10,211
AND HAS ALREADY KILLED FIVE 

3107
01:34:10,211 --> 01:34:11,479
PEOPLE AND IS STILL ON THE 

3108
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:17,018
STREETS WE GOT TO GET THE GUNS 

3109
01:34:17,018 --> 01:34:22,423
OUT OF THESE KIDS HANDS. IT I 

3110
01:34:22,423 --> 01:34:24,325
DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE TO SAY. 

3111
01:34:24,325 --> 01:34:26,494
I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND 

3112
01:34:26,494 --> 01:34:28,129
PEPPER YOU WITH QUESTIONS ON THE

3113
01:34:28,129 --> 01:34:32,133
WHO, HOW, WHY. I'LL JUST SAY 

3114
01:34:32,133 --> 01:34:34,735
THAT I DON'T CARE WHOSE BRIGHT 

3115
01:34:34,735 --> 01:34:36,137
IDEA IS WHAT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO 

3116
01:34:36,137 --> 01:34:42,243
IT ALL. IT'S THE AFTER SCHOOL 

3117
01:34:42,243 --> 01:34:46,747
PROGRAMS. IT'S THE FOOD. IT'S 

3118
01:34:46,747 --> 01:34:47,348
THE INTERVENTIONS. IT'S THE 

3119
01:34:47,348 --> 01:34:48,949
WHATEVER THE PHRASE IS DETERRED 

3120
01:34:48,949 --> 01:34:52,953
INTERVENTION OR DIFFERENTIAL 

3121
01:34:52,953 --> 01:34:53,421
INTERVENTION, FOCUSED 

3122
01:34:53,421 --> 01:34:55,623
INTERVENTION. IT'S THE METAL 

3123
01:34:55,623 --> 01:34:56,424
DETECTORS AT SCHOOLS. WHEN THE 

3124
01:34:56,424 --> 01:34:58,693
KIDS ARE ASKING FOR IT, IT'S 

3125
01:34:58,693 --> 01:34:59,326
THE CAMERAS OUTSIDE THE SCHOOLS.

3126
01:34:59,326 --> 01:35:01,929
WHEN THE KIDS ARE ASKING FOR IT,

3127
01:35:01,929 --> 01:35:02,997
IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE. BECAUSE 

3128
01:35:02,997 --> 01:35:04,231
WHEN THE KIDS ARE ASKING FOR 

3129
01:35:04,231 --> 01:35:05,900
SAFETY, GETTING HOME. THAT'S 

3130
01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:08,102
RIGHT. THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

3131
01:35:08,102 --> 01:35:10,571
SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL SAY TO 

3132
01:35:10,571 --> 01:35:11,972
THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WHEN 

3133
01:35:11,972 --> 01:35:12,740
YOU SAID IT EARLIER, I COULD 

3134
01:35:12,740 --> 01:35:14,575
TALK ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE ALL DAY.

3135
01:35:14,575 --> 01:35:16,477
I SAID RIGHT BACK AT YOU BECAUSE

3136
01:35:16,477 --> 01:35:18,112
I STARTED WHEN I STARTED WORKING

3137
01:35:18,112 --> 01:35:22,216
IN GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION HERE 

3138
01:35:22,216 --> 01:35:22,850
IN WASHINGTON STATE, DEMOCRATS 

3139
01:35:22,850 --> 01:35:24,719
IN THE LEGISLATURE WOULD NOT 

3140
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:28,556
ALLOW A HEARING TO OCCUR IN 

3141
01:35:28,556 --> 01:35:29,156
COMMITTEE ABOUT EXTREME RISK 

3142
01:35:29,156 --> 01:35:33,561
PROTECTION ORDERS. THAT WAS TEN 

3143
01:35:33,561 --> 01:35:37,431
YEARS AGO. AND SO I APPRECIATE 

3144
01:35:37,431 --> 01:35:38,766
WHERE LEGISLATIVELY WE HAVE 

3145
01:35:38,766 --> 01:35:41,235
COME. BUT WHEN KIDS ARE DYING ON

3146
01:35:41,235 --> 01:35:42,870
THE STREETS AND WHEN THEY'RE 

3147
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:44,371
SHOOTING EACH OTHER, BECAUSE 

3148
01:35:44,371 --> 01:35:45,039
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AT SEATTLE

3149
01:35:45,039 --> 01:35:46,974
CENTER IS WHAT HAPPENED. RAINIER

3150
01:35:46,974 --> 01:35:50,578
BEACH WHAT THIS WEEKEND, LAST 

3151
01:35:50,578 --> 01:35:54,515
WEEKEND, IT FELT LIKE YESTERDAY.

3152
01:35:54,515 --> 01:35:54,982
-- ALWAYS EVERY DAY. 

3153
01:35:54,982 --> 01:35:59,386
-- EVERY DAY. YEAH. AND THAT'S 

3154
01:35:59,386 --> 01:36:00,020
THE SERIOUSNESS THAT WE GOT TO 

3155
01:36:00,020 --> 01:36:01,622
TAKE THIS WITH. AND I, AND I 

3156
01:36:01,622 --> 01:36:02,857
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS 

3157
01:36:02,857 --> 01:36:05,760
UNDER YOUR UMBRELLA, BUT IN MY 

3158
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:06,761
DECADE IN GUN VIOLENCE 

3159
01:36:06,761 --> 01:36:08,229
PREVENTION WORK, I'VE SEEN A LOT

3160
01:36:08,229 --> 01:36:09,864
OF INFIGHTING AND I'VE GOT NO 

3161
01:36:09,864 --> 01:36:12,199
PATIENCE FOR IT. THE ONLY THING 

3162
01:36:12,199 --> 01:36:13,300
THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE IS 

3163
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:15,770
GETTING THE WORK DONE AND 

3164
01:36:15,770 --> 01:36:17,872
THAT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND SO

3165
01:36:17,872 --> 01:36:21,142
WHEN PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS 

3166
01:36:21,142 --> 01:36:24,044
BECOME DEFENSIVE AND TURF CREATE

3167
01:36:24,044 --> 01:36:29,016
TURF, THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THAT.

3168
01:36:29,016 --> 01:36:30,017
IN MY OPINION. MOVING ON, I WILL

3169
01:36:30,017 --> 01:36:32,853
SAY THAT EVERY TIME I'VE CALLED

3170
01:36:32,853 --> 01:36:33,454
911, I'VE FOUND YOUR CALL 

3171
01:36:33,454 --> 01:36:34,588
TAKERS TO BE PROFESSIONAL AND 

3172
01:36:34,588 --> 01:36:37,158
VERY HELPFUL. SO I APPRECIATE 

3173
01:36:37,158 --> 01:36:39,059
THAT. I DID NOT PREP LIKE 

3174
01:36:39,059 --> 01:36:40,227
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA DID, BUT I 

3175
01:36:40,227 --> 01:36:42,029
DID HAVE A SITUATION IN THE 

3176
01:36:42,029 --> 01:36:44,865
DISTRICT SIX FIVE, DISTRICT FIVE

3177
01:36:44,865 --> 01:36:46,100
SIX UP THERE AT SANDOWN PARK 

3178
01:36:46,100 --> 01:36:48,269
THAT GOT GERRYMANDERED OUT OF MY

3179
01:36:48,269 --> 01:36:51,205
DISTRICT WHERE WE HAD BOUNTY 

3180
01:36:51,205 --> 01:36:52,439
HUNTERS WHO CALLED 911 TO LET 

3181
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,641
THE POLICE KNOW WHAT THEY WERE 

3182
01:36:53,641 --> 01:36:54,875
UP TO, AND THAT CALL NEVER MADE 

3183
01:36:54,875 --> 01:36:56,410
IT TO NORTH PRECINCT. HAVE WE 

3184
01:36:56,410 --> 01:36:59,313
BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO

3185
01:36:59,313 --> 01:37:01,482
ENSURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN 

3186
01:37:01,482 --> 01:37:01,715
AGAIN? 

3187
01:37:01,715 --> 01:37:02,750
-- YEAH, WE ADDRESS THAT ONE 

3188
01:37:02,750 --> 01:37:04,518
QUICKLY. THAT WAS JARRING. SO I 

3189
01:37:04,518 --> 01:37:05,653
CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR OFFICE 

3190
01:37:05,653 --> 01:37:09,523
ABOUT THAT. 

3191
01:37:09,523 --> 01:37:10,658
-- FANTASTIC. AND I'VE GOT A LOT

3192
01:37:10,658 --> 01:37:13,260
OF QUESTIONS THAT I'LL JUST ADD

3193
01:37:13,260 --> 01:37:14,762
TO SHAREPOINT SO THAT I DON'T 

3194
01:37:14,762 --> 01:37:17,765
ACTUALLY TAKE UP 15 MINUTES OF 

3195
01:37:17,765 --> 01:37:18,766
CONVERSATION, BUT IN MY 

3196
01:37:18,766 --> 01:37:20,701
PERSPECTIVE, THE CARE DEPARTMENT

3197
01:37:20,701 --> 01:37:24,171
IS NOT AN ALTERNATIVE. IT IS A 

3198
01:37:24,171 --> 01:37:29,076
RESPONSIVENESS. IT IS A PROGRAM.

3199
01:37:29,076 --> 01:37:30,010
IT'S A PRACTITION. I'M GOING 

3200
01:37:30,010 --> 01:37:31,612
TO JUST FROM HERE ON OUT FOR. 

3201
01:37:31,612 --> 01:37:33,581
AND I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH 

3202
01:37:33,581 --> 01:37:34,148
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE ON THE 

3203
01:37:34,148 --> 01:37:35,316
SIDE. BUT IF PEOPLE SAY CONTINUE

3204
01:37:35,316 --> 01:37:36,584
TALKING ABOUT POLICE 

3205
01:37:36,584 --> 01:37:37,384
ALTERNATIVES, I'M JUST GOING TO

3206
01:37:37,384 --> 01:37:39,820
ASK YOU TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE 

3207
01:37:39,820 --> 01:37:41,155
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN 

3208
01:37:41,155 --> 01:37:43,057
ALTERNATIVE. THIS IS A RESPONSE,

3209
01:37:43,057 --> 01:37:48,596
IN MY OPINION AND I'LL SHARE 

3210
01:37:48,596 --> 01:37:49,897
THAT THROUGHOUT TODAY. WE'VE 

3211
01:37:49,897 --> 01:37:52,800
HEARD A LOT ABOUT FISCAL REASONS

3212
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,236
FOR REDUCING INVESTMENTS, AND 

3213
01:37:55,236 --> 01:38:00,474
IT'S A PAUSE, NOT A STOP OR IT 

3214
01:38:00,474 --> 01:38:02,843
IS A WITH WHAT IS WITHIN OUR 

3215
01:38:02,843 --> 01:38:06,981
FISCAL ABILITY WHERE I'M 

3216
01:38:06,981 --> 01:38:09,183
CHALLENGED TODAY IS FOR BOTH THE

3217
01:38:09,183 --> 01:38:13,320
POLICE, FOR CARE, SPECIFICALLY, 

3218
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:14,054
WE'LL GET TO THE FIRE 

3219
01:38:14,054 --> 01:38:16,757
DEPARTMENT IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT

3220
01:38:16,757 --> 01:38:17,758
FOR BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS,

3221
01:38:17,758 --> 01:38:20,394
WE HAVE BEEN IN A PLACE OF 

3222
01:38:20,394 --> 01:38:22,630
MOMENTUM BUILDING, AND MOMENTUM 

3223
01:38:22,630 --> 01:38:27,201
IS NOT BUILT. IT'S NOT AN ON OFF

3224
01:38:27,201 --> 01:38:29,003
SWITCH. MOMENTUM IS BUILT OVER 

3225
01:38:29,003 --> 01:38:32,373
TIME. AND I HAVE SEEN IN 

3226
01:38:32,373 --> 01:38:34,742
GOVERNMENT WHERE A TWO WEEK 

3227
01:38:34,742 --> 01:38:36,477
DELAY TO A PROGRAM HAS. IT WAS 

3228
01:38:36,477 --> 01:38:37,111
JUST SUPPOSED TO BE TWO WEEKS. 

3229
01:38:37,111 --> 01:38:38,345
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING PANDEMIC 

3230
01:38:38,345 --> 01:38:39,880
STUFF. WE'RE TALKING VERY NORMAL

3231
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:44,351
STUFF. A TWO WEEK DELAY CREATED 

3232
01:38:44,351 --> 01:38:46,287
A TWO YEAR PAUSE. AND SO WHAT 

3233
01:38:46,287 --> 01:38:48,355
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FROM ME 

3234
01:38:48,355 --> 01:38:50,691
THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE THREE 

3235
01:38:50,691 --> 01:38:54,261
DEPARTMENTS AND MORE IS MY WORRY

3236
01:38:54,261 --> 01:38:57,097
ABOUT MOMENTUM BECAUSE IT HAS 

3237
01:38:57,097 --> 01:38:59,500
BEEN COUNCIL'S INTENTION SINCE 

3238
01:38:59,500 --> 01:39:02,536
2021 THAT CARE DEPARTMENT IS IN 

3239
01:39:02,536 --> 01:39:06,040
EVERY SECTOR OF THIS CITY IS 

3240
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,709
24/7, IS RESPONSIVE IN QUICK 

3241
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:11,478
MANNER, IS ABLE TO RESPOND TO 

3242
01:39:11,478 --> 01:39:13,213
THE CALLS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE 

3243
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:15,149
FOR THEM WITHOUT QUESTION, ALL 

3244
01:39:15,149 --> 01:39:16,984
OF THIS, AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE

3245
01:39:16,984 --> 01:39:19,720
CONCERN TODAY. BECAUSE IF IT 

3246
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,188
TAKES WAITING FOR THE NEXT 

3247
01:39:21,188 --> 01:39:22,690
MIDYEAR SUPPLEMENTAL, THAT IS, 

3248
01:39:22,690 --> 01:39:23,857
I'M TEASING HERE, SUPPOSED TO 

3249
01:39:23,857 --> 01:39:26,327
BE HERE BY JUNE 20th. BUT THEN 

3250
01:39:26,327 --> 01:39:27,394
WE FINALLY VOTED OUT BY AUGUST, 

3251
01:39:27,394 --> 01:39:29,630
YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT'S FINALLY

3252
01:39:29,630 --> 01:39:30,965
IMPLEMENTED IN FALL. LIKE THIS 

3253
01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:34,835
IS WHERE MY MOMENTUM CONCERN 

3254
01:39:34,835 --> 01:39:35,970
COMES IN. AND SO I APPRECIATE 

3255
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:40,207
THE FISCAL PERSPECTIVE ON THIS 

3256
01:39:40,207 --> 01:39:41,208
ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S WHAT YOU'RE

3257
01:39:41,208 --> 01:39:44,244
SHARING WITH US ALL DAY TODAY. 

3258
01:39:44,244 --> 01:39:47,014
BUT I GET CONCERNED WHEN WE TALK

3259
01:39:47,014 --> 01:39:52,486
ABOUT OR WHEN WE DON'T DISCUSS 

3260
01:39:52,486 --> 01:39:54,088
HOW A TWO WEEK PAUSE CAN CREATE 

3261
01:39:54,088 --> 01:39:58,625
A TWO YEAR DELAY, HOW. AND I 

3262
01:39:58,625 --> 01:40:00,394
APPRECIATE VERY MUCH HOW YOU ARE

3263
01:40:00,394 --> 01:40:02,930
THOUGHTFULLY PUTTING TOGETHER 

3264
01:40:02,930 --> 01:40:04,331
YOUR TEAMS ABOUT THE CRS AND HOW

3265
01:40:04,331 --> 01:40:05,499
WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW AND 

3266
01:40:05,499 --> 01:40:06,900
WHERE YOU CAN BUILD TO. AND 

3267
01:40:06,900 --> 01:40:10,037
HOLDING THOSE POCKETS IN, IN 

3268
01:40:10,037 --> 01:40:11,572
LEGISLATION, BUT NOT FILLING 

3269
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:12,940
THEM. I APPRECIATE THE 

3270
01:40:12,940 --> 01:40:15,042
PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, BUT I'M 

3271
01:40:15,042 --> 01:40:17,778
JUST SHARING MY CONCERN TODAY 

3272
01:40:17,778 --> 01:40:18,879
BECAUSE A PAUSE CAN CREATE A 

3273
01:40:18,879 --> 01:40:21,382
DELAY, A PAUSE CAN, CAN 

3274
01:40:21,382 --> 01:40:24,084
OFTENTIMES INADVERTENTLY, 

3275
01:40:24,084 --> 01:40:25,552
UNEXPECTEDLY, AND 

3276
01:40:25,552 --> 01:40:27,221
UNINTENTIONALLY CREATE A STOP. 

3277
01:40:27,221 --> 01:40:30,324
AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE 

3278
01:40:30,324 --> 01:40:31,558
POLICE DEPARTMENT LOSE MOMENTUM.

3279
01:40:31,558 --> 01:40:32,926
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE CARE 

3280
01:40:32,926 --> 01:40:34,161
DEPARTMENT LOSE MOMENTUM. I 

3281
01:40:34,161 --> 01:40:35,963
DON'T WANT TO SEE THE FIRE 

3282
01:40:35,963 --> 01:40:38,565
DEPARTMENT LOSE MOMENTUM. THESE 

3283
01:40:38,565 --> 01:40:39,566
SERVICES ARE ALSO CRITICAL TO 

3284
01:40:39,566 --> 01:40:40,234
ME. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE 

3285
01:40:40,234 --> 01:40:40,534
COMMITTEE. 

3286
01:40:40,534 --> 01:40:41,969
-- I WOULD JUST I HAD NEVER 

3287
01:40:41,969 --> 01:40:43,370
CONSIDERED THAT MOMENTUM POINT, 

3288
01:40:43,370 --> 01:40:45,973
AND I THINK IT'S VERY 

3289
01:40:45,973 --> 01:40:47,207
INTELLIGENT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

3290
01:40:47,207 --> 01:40:50,010
-- THANK YOU. AND I'LL WRAP UP 

3291
01:40:50,010 --> 01:40:51,478
HERE. WOW. I AM ALMOST TAKING 15

3292
01:40:51,478 --> 01:40:54,681
MINUTES. MY APOLOGIES. JUST TO 

3293
01:40:54,681 --> 01:40:56,884
SAY THAT THE LEAD AND THE COLEAD

3294
01:40:56,884 --> 01:40:58,886
COMING INTO YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS 

3295
01:40:58,886 --> 01:41:00,554
BEEN VERY HELPFUL. I WILL JUST 

3296
01:41:00,554 --> 01:41:03,357
SAY, AS FAR AS WHEN WE'RE 

3297
01:41:03,357 --> 01:41:03,991
LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT 

3298
01:41:03,991 --> 01:41:05,626
FRAMEWORKS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT

3299
01:41:05,626 --> 01:41:07,161
GEOGRAPHICALLY SPECIFIC PLACES 

3300
01:41:07,161 --> 01:41:08,862
TO MAKE THOSE TYPES OF 

3301
01:41:08,862 --> 01:41:11,832
INTERVENTIONS, IT'S BEEN VERY 

3302
01:41:11,832 --> 01:41:13,200
HELPFUL TO HAVE THE CARE 

3303
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,169
DEPARTMENT INVOLVED, I BELIEVE I

3304
01:41:15,169 --> 01:41:16,503
SAW DR. NICOLE SOMEWHERE AROUND 

3305
01:41:16,503 --> 01:41:18,705
HERE. MAYBE SHE TOOK OFF, BUT 

3306
01:41:18,705 --> 01:41:20,340
SHE'S JUST BEEN SO HELPFUL. AND

3307
01:41:20,340 --> 01:41:23,343
SO THIS WAS A VERY HELPFUL 

3308
01:41:23,343 --> 01:41:23,944
TRANSITION THAT OCCURRED LAST 

3309
01:41:23,944 --> 01:41:25,112
YEAR. AND I'M EXCITED TO 

3310
01:41:25,112 --> 01:41:27,347
CONTINUE BUILDING THAT MOMENTUM.

3311
01:41:27,347 --> 01:41:28,415
SO I'LL GIVE IT OVER TO THE 

3312
01:41:28,415 --> 01:41:32,886
COMMITTEE TABLE FOR LAST WORDS, 

3313
01:41:32,886 --> 01:41:34,388
BECAUSE CHAIR KETTLE IS NOT HERE

3314
01:41:34,388 --> 01:41:35,856
RIGHT NOW. THIS WILL BE THE LAST

3315
01:41:35,856 --> 01:41:38,926
WORD. AND THEN WE'LL SWITCH. 

3316
01:41:38,926 --> 01:41:39,893
-- IF I MAY. I JUST WANTED TO 

3317
01:41:39,893 --> 01:41:42,229
RESPOND TO BOTH YOU, CHAIR 

3318
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:43,697
STRAUSS AND YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

3319
01:41:43,697 --> 01:41:45,432
RIVERA, ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS WITH

3320
01:41:45,432 --> 01:41:47,668
THE SPECIFIC 911 CALLS THAT YOU 

3321
01:41:47,668 --> 01:41:50,070
MENTIONED. AND I JUST WANTED TO 

3322
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:50,671
UNDERLINE THE SERIOUSNESS OF 

3323
01:41:50,671 --> 01:41:51,772
WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT,

3324
01:41:51,772 --> 01:41:52,406
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE TALK 

3325
01:41:52,406 --> 01:41:53,907
ABOUT WITH OUR CALL TAKERS AND 

3326
01:41:53,907 --> 01:41:55,375
OUR TRAINING, BECAUSE WHAT WE DO

3327
01:41:55,375 --> 01:41:58,178
EVERY DAY IS OFTEN DEALING WITH 

3328
01:41:58,178 --> 01:42:00,614
PEOPLE ON THE WORST DAY OF THEIR

3329
01:42:00,614 --> 01:42:02,516
LIVES. PARDON ME. AND WE GET IT 

3330
01:42:02,516 --> 01:42:05,285
RIGHT. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE 

3331
01:42:05,285 --> 01:42:06,720
TIME WE TAKE ABOUT 900,000 CALLS

3332
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:08,655
A YEAR. AND SO THE EVIDENCE, THE

3333
01:42:08,655 --> 01:42:10,691
DATA IS TELLING US WE GET IT 

3334
01:42:10,691 --> 01:42:11,825
RIGHT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE 

3335
01:42:11,825 --> 01:42:13,393
TIME, BUT WE'RE NOT PERFECT. 

3336
01:42:13,393 --> 01:42:14,828
MOST OF OUR CALL TAKERS HAVE 

3337
01:42:14,828 --> 01:42:15,929
BEEN THERE LESS THAN TWO YEARS, 

3338
01:42:15,929 --> 01:42:19,433
SO THAT'S OVER 50%. SO IT'S A 

3339
01:42:19,433 --> 01:42:20,534
VERY YOUNG GROUP AND IT TAKES A 

3340
01:42:20,534 --> 01:42:21,768
LONG TIME FOR A CALL TAKER TO 

3341
01:42:21,768 --> 01:42:23,303
REALLY BECOME VERY SEASONED WITH

3342
01:42:23,303 --> 01:42:24,538
ANYTHING THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE

3343
01:42:24,538 --> 01:42:27,241
TO, YOU KNOW, COME ACROSS IN 

3344
01:42:27,241 --> 01:42:28,442
THEIR DAY. BECAUSE WHILE SOME 

3345
01:42:28,442 --> 01:42:29,243
CALLS HAPPEN QUITE FREQUENTLY 

3346
01:42:29,243 --> 01:42:31,245
AND THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR, LIKE

3347
01:42:31,245 --> 01:42:32,713
MAYBE AN AUTOMOTIVE THEFT OR 

3348
01:42:32,713 --> 01:42:34,448
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OTHER 

3349
01:42:34,448 --> 01:42:35,215
EVENTS ARE VERY INFREQUENT. AND 

3350
01:42:35,215 --> 01:42:36,683
SO THEY STILL HAVE TO KNOW HOW 

3351
01:42:36,683 --> 01:42:37,518
TO HANDLE ALL OF THOSE. SO I 

3352
01:42:37,518 --> 01:42:39,920
JUST WANTED TO ECHO THAT. WE 

3353
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:40,454
REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR 

3354
01:42:40,454 --> 01:42:42,256
COMMENTS AND UNDERSTAND THE 

3355
01:42:42,256 --> 01:42:43,857
GRAVITY OF ALL OF THOSE. SO WE 

3356
01:42:43,857 --> 01:42:44,925
LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE SITUATIONS 

3357
01:42:44,925 --> 01:42:48,228
AND TRY AND LEARN FROM IT EVERY 

3358
01:42:48,228 --> 01:42:48,428
TIME. 

3359
01:42:48,428 --> 01:42:49,329
-- WONDERFUL. THANK YOU ALL SO 

3360
01:42:49,329 --> 01:42:53,233
MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. WE'RE GOING

3361
01:42:53,233 --> 01:42:54,635
TO NOW MAKE THE TRANSITION. SO 

3362
01:42:54,635 --> 01:42:55,636
COLLEAGUES, YOU NEED A QUICK 

3363
01:42:55,636 --> 01:42:58,238
BREAK. NOW IS THE TIME WE'LL BE

3364
01:42:58,238 --> 01:43:00,007
AT EASE UNTIL SEATTLE FIRE 

3365
01:43:00,007 --> 01:43:00,474
DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR 

3366
01:43:00,474 --> 01:43:01,642
PRESENTATION UP. AND BEFORE YOU 

3367
01:43:01,642 --> 01:43:02,676
TAKE OFF, I WANT TO THANK YOU. 

3368
01:43:02,676 --> 01:43:04,344
YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 9:30 

3369
01:43:04,344 --> 01:43:05,812
A.M. WITH US. YOU'VE BEEN 

3370
01:43:05,812 --> 01:43:06,680
WAITING HERE ALL. 

3371
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,215
-- DAY. 

3372
01:43:08,215 --> 01:43:10,083
-- THOUGH, AND SO I JUST 

3373
01:43:10,083 --> 01:43:11,218
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE EARLY.

3374
01:43:11,218 --> 01:43:12,686
AND AS WE'RE MAKING THIS 

3375
01:43:12,686 --> 01:43:14,955
TRANSITION. OH, YOU CAN JUMP IN.

3376
01:43:14,955 --> 01:43:16,823
BUT ALSO THE SEATTLE FIRE 

3377
01:43:16,823 --> 01:43:17,991
DEPARTMENT WAS ALSO READY THIS 

3378
01:43:17,991 --> 01:43:19,860
MORNING TO JUMP IN EARLIER THAN 

3379
01:43:19,860 --> 01:43:20,761
SCHEDULED. AND I JUST APPRECIATE

3380
01:43:20,761 --> 01:43:22,329
THEIR FLEXIBILITY AS WELL. SO WE

3381
01:43:22,329 --> 01:43:24,398
ARE AT EASE UNTIL SEATTLE FIRE 

3382
01:43:24,398 --> 01:43:26,733
DEPARTMENT COMES ON UP. THANK 

3383
01:43:26,733 --> 01:43:27,067
YOU EVERYONE. 

3384
01:43:27,067 --> 01:43:28,468
-- THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. 

3385
01:43:28,468 --> 01:43:30,604
-- YOU'RE FINE. 

3386
01:43:30,604 --> 01:43:34,741
-- DID YOU SEE ME? I WAS TRYING 

3387
01:43:34,741 --> 01:43:35,075
-- [LAUGHTER] 

3388
01:43:35,075 --> 01:43:38,212
-- TO GET. 

3389
01:43:38,212 --> 01:43:38,545
-- OF COURSE. 

3390
01:43:38,545 --> 01:43:44,518
-- HEY, NATE. OH, I NEED TO 

3391
01:43:44,518 --> 01:43:44,885
STRETCH. YEAH. 

3392
01:43:44,885 --> 01:43:47,621
-- SHE KEEPS ALL THE RECORDS. 

3393
01:43:47,621 --> 01:43:50,190
NO. I'M FINE. I'M GOING TO GO 

3394
01:43:50,190 --> 01:43:50,524
-- [LAUGHTER] 

3395
01:43:50,524 --> 01:43:54,061
-- WITH MY ORIGINAL JUMPSTART 20

3396
01:43:54,061 --> 01:44:01,969
THIS OCTOBER. 

3397
01:44:02,102 --> 01:44:12,179
EDDIE. 

3398
01:45:32,092 --> 01:45:33,260
-- NO, WE'RE NOT AT EASE 

3399
01:45:33,260 --> 01:45:35,162
ANYMORE. 

3400
01:45:35,162 --> 01:45:35,462
-- I KNOW. 

3401
01:45:35,462 --> 01:45:36,897
-- WHERE ARE MY COUNCILMEMBERS? 

3402
01:45:36,897 --> 01:45:39,132
WE'RE READY TO GO. 

3403
01:45:39,132 --> 01:45:39,766
-- YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TOLD. 

3404
01:45:39,766 --> 01:45:40,834
-- US THEN. NO, I'M NOT DOING 

3405
01:45:40,834 --> 01:45:44,404
THAT EVER AGAIN. THAT WAS IT. 

3406
01:45:44,404 --> 01:45:45,672
ONE TIME DEAL. ALL RIGHT. GOOD 

3407
01:45:45,672 --> 01:45:48,742
TO SEE YOU. EDDIE. SHOULDN'T 

3408
01:45:48,742 --> 01:45:52,112
HAVE SAID IT. THAT'LL TEACH ME.

3409
01:45:52,112 --> 01:45:56,083
FOOL ME ONCE, FOOL ME TWICE. ALL

3410
01:45:56,083 --> 01:45:57,184
RIGHT. CHIEF SCOGGINS, THANK YOU

3411
01:45:57,184 --> 01:45:58,952
SO MUCH FOR BEING FLEXIBLE THIS 

3412
01:45:58,952 --> 01:45:59,720
MORNING, HELEN. THANK YOU FOR 

3413
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,154
ALL YOUR HELP AS WELL. 

3414
01:46:01,154 --> 01:46:03,990
-- NO WORRIES. THANK YOU FOR THE

3415
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:04,324
FLEXIBILITY. 

3416
01:46:04,324 --> 01:46:05,058
-- ABSOLUTELY. HOPEFULLY WE'LL 

3417
01:46:05,058 --> 01:46:07,761
HAVE YOU OUT BY FIVE. 

3418
01:46:07,761 --> 01:46:10,230
-- NO RUSH. 

3419
01:46:10,230 --> 01:46:12,032
-- I AM I AM HOPING WE WILL HAVE

3420
01:46:12,032 --> 01:46:15,569
YOU OUT BY FIVE. MY TIMER'S NOT

3421
01:46:15,569 --> 01:46:16,770
ON FOR ME THOUGH. RIGHT NOW. 

3422
01:46:16,770 --> 01:46:18,638
THIS IS FREE TIME. THIS IS FREE 

3423
01:46:18,638 --> 01:46:21,875
TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HERE. 

3424
01:46:21,875 --> 01:46:22,275
-- YOUR TIME NOT. 

3425
01:46:22,275 --> 01:46:24,478
-- IF MY TEAM IS WATCHING FROM 

3426
01:46:24,478 --> 01:46:25,846
MY OFFICE. CAN YOU START WALKING

3427
01:46:25,846 --> 01:46:27,214
THE HALL? GET FOLKS COMING BACK 

3428
01:46:27,214 --> 01:46:31,752
TO COUNCIL. WE'VE GOT. AND I'VE

3429
01:46:31,752 --> 01:46:35,055
GOT COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. WE'VE 

3430
01:46:35,055 --> 01:46:35,689
GOT LIN STRAUSS HOLLINGSWORTH. 

3431
01:46:35,689 --> 01:46:36,790
AS SOON AS THE NEXT 

3432
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:41,128
COUNCILMEMBER COMES BACK INTO. 

3433
01:46:41,128 --> 01:46:45,766
THE CHAMBERS, WE WILL ROLL OH, 

3434
01:46:45,766 --> 01:46:49,336
MAN. AND WE LOST ANOTHER ONE. 

3435
01:46:49,336 --> 01:46:52,672
RIVERA. OH, I SEE. 

3436
01:46:52,672 --> 01:46:56,143
-- YEAH. OKAY. 

3437
01:46:56,143 --> 01:47:01,348
-- OR ALL OF THEM. GETTING A 

3438
01:47:01,348 --> 01:47:02,416
LITTLE PUNCHY ON A FRIDAY 

3439
01:47:02,416 --> 01:47:03,950
AFTERNOON. IT'S A SERIOUS. 

3440
01:47:03,950 --> 01:47:08,188
IT'S A SERIOUS DAY AND LAUGHTER

3441
01:47:08,188 --> 01:47:11,725
IS STILL IMPORTANT. 

3442
01:47:11,725 --> 01:47:22,135
-- NO, NO. I'M GOOD. 

3443
01:47:22,669 --> 01:47:24,938
-- THOUGH. 

3444
01:47:24,938 --> 01:47:25,572
-- BECAUSE I KEEP DROPPING THEM.

3445
01:47:25,572 --> 01:47:28,041
-- I TRIED TO GIVE YOU A BINDER.

3446
01:47:28,041 --> 01:47:28,942
-- YEAH. 

3447
01:47:28,942 --> 01:47:29,843
-- IF IT'S IN FRONT OF ME. 

3448
01:47:29,843 --> 01:47:34,014
-- I'M NEVER DOING THAT. 

3449
01:47:34,014 --> 01:47:34,281
-- AGAIN. 

3450
01:47:34,281 --> 01:47:38,185
-- THAT'S TRUE. 

3451
01:47:38,185 --> 01:47:43,323
-- I FEEL LIKE BRITNEY SPEARS 

3452
01:47:43,323 --> 01:47:45,091
JANET JACKSON, LIKE THAT'S WHAT

3453
01:47:45,091 --> 01:47:46,593
I LISTEN TO ON ROB. 

3454
01:47:46,593 --> 01:47:51,531
-- THANK YOU FOR BEING PUNCTUAL.

3455
01:47:51,531 --> 01:47:56,136
-- I'M GOING BACK. SHE'S GOING

3456
01:47:56,136 --> 01:47:57,204
ON TOUR. SHE SHE WAS ONE OF THE 

3457
01:47:57,204 --> 01:48:00,607
FIRST CONCERTS I WENT TO. JANET 

3458
01:48:00,607 --> 01:48:01,074
JACKSON'S GOING ON. 

3459
01:48:01,074 --> 01:48:02,008
-- AND FOR YOUR AWARENESS, 

3460
01:48:02,008 --> 01:48:05,078
FOLKS, MIKES ARE HOT AND IT IS 

3461
01:48:05,078 --> 01:48:05,412
BROADCASTING. 

3462
01:48:05,412 --> 01:48:05,779
-- OKAY, GREAT. 

3463
01:48:05,779 --> 01:48:06,446
-- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW 

3464
01:48:06,446 --> 01:48:06,646
THAT. 

3465
01:48:06,646 --> 01:48:08,381
-- I SAW HER IN 1991. 

3466
01:48:08,381 --> 01:48:09,749
-- PEOPLE JUST LEARNED ABOUT OUR

3467
01:48:09,749 --> 01:48:11,251
LOVE OF JANET JACKSON. 

3468
01:48:11,251 --> 01:48:12,485
-- I CAN'T HEAR YOU, BUT 

3469
01:48:12,485 --> 01:48:15,488
SEATTLE CHANNEL CAN. 

3470
01:48:15,488 --> 01:48:16,656
-- THAT'S A GREAT WESTERN 

3471
01:48:16,656 --> 01:48:20,293
FORUM. IN 1991. THAT'S THE LAST

3472
01:48:20,293 --> 01:48:21,528
TIME I SAW JANET JACKSON 

3473
01:48:21,528 --> 01:48:23,530
-- I THINK I SAW HER. 

3474
01:48:23,530 --> 01:48:27,267
-- JOY CAN YOU GO WALK THE HALL 

3475
01:48:27,267 --> 01:48:29,402
AND GET EVERYONE BACK HERE? 

3476
01:48:29,402 --> 01:48:29,703
THANK YOU. 

3477
01:48:29,703 --> 01:48:35,942
-- I THINK IT WAS MADONNA WAS. 

3478
01:48:35,942 --> 01:48:37,444
WERE YOU EXPECTING A PHONE CALL.

3479
01:48:37,444 --> 01:48:39,479
-- WHEN DID HE. 

3480
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,716
-- KNOW? CHIEF, ARE YOU 

3481
01:48:42,716 --> 01:48:45,886
EXPECTING ANYONE TO JOIN YOU ON 

3482
01:48:45,886 --> 01:48:47,520
ON ZOOM? NO. IS IT DEBORA? 

3483
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,857
-- THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE HERE.

3484
01:48:50,857 --> 01:48:51,524
THEY'RE NOT. THEY'LL WATCH. 

3485
01:48:51,524 --> 01:48:54,561
-- YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK DEBORA 

3486
01:48:54,561 --> 01:48:54,794
STAFF. 

3487
01:48:54,794 --> 01:48:56,062
-- IS THERE SOMEONE TRYING TO 

3488
01:48:56,062 --> 01:48:58,265
SIGN IN ON ZOOM OR JUST A PHONE 

3489
01:48:58,265 --> 01:48:59,633
CALL OR SOMETHING? I'M NOT 

3490
01:48:59,633 --> 01:49:09,976
SURE. OH. GOT HIM. 

3491
01:49:10,277 --> 01:49:19,185
-- THANK YOU. OKAY. 

3492
01:49:19,185 --> 01:49:20,020
-- AND WE ARE OUT OF EASE. SO 

3493
01:49:20,020 --> 01:49:20,654
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO 

3494
01:49:20,654 --> 01:49:22,188
THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 

3495
01:49:22,188 --> 01:49:24,090
CHIEF SCOGGINS IS HERE WITH US 

3496
01:49:24,090 --> 01:49:25,325
AS WELL. I SHOULD PROBABLY BRING

3497
01:49:25,325 --> 01:49:28,228
UP MY SCRIPT IF THE CLERK CAN 

3498
01:49:28,228 --> 01:49:30,297
READ ITEM NUMBER THREE INTO THE 

3499
01:49:30,297 --> 01:49:32,098
RECORD. WE'VE GOT CHIEF SCOGGINS

3500
01:49:32,098 --> 01:49:33,934
AND TRICIA, THE FINANCE 

3501
01:49:33,934 --> 01:49:34,834
DIRECTOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING 

3502
01:49:34,834 --> 01:49:36,836
HERE. 

3503
01:49:36,836 --> 01:49:38,004
-- AGENDA ITEM THREE, SEATTLE 

3504
01:49:38,004 --> 01:49:39,406
FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR BRIEFING AND

3505
01:49:39,406 --> 01:49:39,706
DISCUSSION. 

3506
01:49:39,706 --> 01:49:40,974
-- THANK YOU. AND BEFORE YOU 

3507
01:49:40,974 --> 01:49:42,042
BEGIN, CHIEF, FOR MY COLLEAGUES,

3508
01:49:42,042 --> 01:49:43,677
WE'RE NEVER DOING THAT AGAIN. 

3509
01:49:43,677 --> 01:49:45,078
THAT TOOK TOO LONG. THANK YOU. 

3510
01:49:45,078 --> 01:49:46,479
OVER TO YOU, CHIEF. 

3511
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,616
-- ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE 

3512
01:49:49,616 --> 01:49:51,384
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 

3513
01:49:51,384 --> 01:49:51,952
SHARE THE INFORMATION ABOUT 

3514
01:49:51,952 --> 01:49:54,921
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND 

3515
01:49:54,921 --> 01:49:55,956
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL 

3516
01:49:55,956 --> 01:49:57,691
JUST DO A COUPLE OF QUICK 

3517
01:49:57,691 --> 01:49:58,959
INTRODUCTIONS SO YOU KNOW WHO 

3518
01:49:58,959 --> 01:50:00,594
YOU'RE TALKING TO. HAROLD 

3519
01:50:00,594 --> 01:50:02,929
SCOGGINS FIRE CHIEF. 

3520
01:50:02,929 --> 01:50:04,531
-- TRICIA ELLERMEIER, FINANCE 

3521
01:50:04,531 --> 01:50:04,798
DIRECTOR. 

3522
01:50:04,798 --> 01:50:06,132
-- AND BEFORE WE CLICK THROUGH 

3523
01:50:06,132 --> 01:50:07,600
THE SLIDES, I THINK I ALWAYS 

3524
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,302
INVITE YOU ALL SOMEWHERE WHEN I 

3525
01:50:09,302 --> 01:50:11,237
COME. SO I'M GOING TO STICK TO 

3526
01:50:11,237 --> 01:50:14,507
THAT. IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE NEXT 

3527
01:50:14,507 --> 01:50:17,610
FRIDAY MORNING, I OCTOBER 2nd AT

3528
01:50:17,610 --> 01:50:19,412
9:30 A.M. WE'LL BE DOING OUR 

3529
01:50:19,412 --> 01:50:22,349
ANNUAL FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS 

3530
01:50:22,349 --> 01:50:24,417
MEMORIAL IN OCCIDENTAL PARK AT A

3531
01:50:24,417 --> 01:50:27,220
MEMORIAL DOWN THERE. THAT'S A 

3532
01:50:27,220 --> 01:50:29,656
PLACE WHERE WE TAKE THE TIME TO 

3533
01:50:29,656 --> 01:50:30,857
REMEMBER ALL THE SEATTLE 

3534
01:50:30,857 --> 01:50:32,258
FIREFIGHTERS WHO HAVE BEEN LOST 

3535
01:50:32,258 --> 01:50:35,161
IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AND WE HAVE

3536
01:50:35,161 --> 01:50:37,030
A CEREMONY, AND WE READ ALL OF 

3537
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:38,431
THE NAMES BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE

3538
01:50:38,431 --> 01:50:39,566
REMEMBER FOLKS, WHEN WE SAY 

3539
01:50:39,566 --> 01:50:41,534
THEIR NAMES OUT LOUD. SO IF 

3540
01:50:41,534 --> 01:50:43,269
YOU'RE AVAILABLE, PLEASE COME 

3541
01:50:43,269 --> 01:50:46,706
DOWN TO PIONEER SQUARE 930. ALL 

3542
01:50:46,706 --> 01:50:51,745
RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET 

3543
01:50:51,745 --> 01:50:53,146
MOVING. AS ALWAYS, I LIKE TO 

3544
01:50:53,146 --> 01:50:55,348
START WITH HITTING THE REFRESH 

3545
01:50:55,348 --> 01:50:58,151
BUTTON ON WHY WE'RE HERE. OUR 

3546
01:50:58,151 --> 01:50:59,586
MISSION STATEMENT IS WHAT DRIVES

3547
01:50:59,586 --> 01:51:04,591
US. IT TALKS ABOUT US PROTECTING

3548
01:51:04,591 --> 01:51:05,992
PROPERTY, SAVING LIVES AND THE 

3549
01:51:05,992 --> 01:51:06,793
ENVIRONMENT. AND WE'RE ANCHORED

3550
01:51:06,793 --> 01:51:08,662
IN THAT. AND EVERYTHING WE DO. 

3551
01:51:08,662 --> 01:51:10,263
AND THE SECOND SENTENCE IS 

3552
01:51:10,263 --> 01:51:12,932
ALWAYS VERY MEANINGFUL TO ME. 

3553
01:51:12,932 --> 01:51:15,101
AND IT'S PROBABLY RELEVANT FOR 

3554
01:51:15,101 --> 01:51:17,504
TODAY'S DISCUSSION. WE RESPOND 

3555
01:51:17,504 --> 01:51:18,838
IMMEDIATELY WHEN ANY MEMBER OF 

3556
01:51:18,838 --> 01:51:21,141
OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS OUR SUPPORT.

3557
01:51:21,141 --> 01:51:22,208
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.

3558
01:51:22,208 --> 01:51:23,376
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERY 

3559
01:51:23,376 --> 01:51:25,879
MEMBER OF THE SEATTLE FIRE 

3560
01:51:25,879 --> 01:51:27,447
DEPARTMENT FOCUSES ON DAY IN AND

3561
01:51:27,447 --> 01:51:30,417
DAY OUT, AND LIVING OUT OUR 

3562
01:51:30,417 --> 01:51:31,785
MISSION AND WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE

3563
01:51:31,785 --> 01:51:35,255
NEXT SLIDE IS A LAYOUT OF THE 

3564
01:51:35,255 --> 01:51:37,257
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR 

3565
01:51:37,257 --> 01:51:39,659
RESOURCE DISTRIBUTION. WE HAVE 

3566
01:51:39,659 --> 01:51:42,162
33 FIRE STATIONS, 32 ENGINES, 12

3567
01:51:42,162 --> 01:51:44,964
LADDER TRUCKS, EIGHT MEDIC 

3568
01:51:44,964 --> 01:51:46,733
UNITS, FIVE AID UNITS, 24 HOUR 

3569
01:51:46,733 --> 01:51:49,269
AID UNITS. AND THE SLIDE 

3570
01:51:49,269 --> 01:51:50,837
ACTUALLY SAYS TWO PEAK TIME AID 

3571
01:51:50,837 --> 01:51:52,639
UNITS. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THREE 

3572
01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:54,074
BECAUSE LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE 

3573
01:51:54,074 --> 01:51:55,708
HERE, WE HAD MADE THE REQUEST TO

3574
01:51:55,708 --> 01:51:57,577
ADD MORE AID UNITS. I THINK WE 

3575
01:51:57,577 --> 01:52:00,980
HAD 3 OR 4 ON THE TABLE, BUT WE 

3576
01:52:00,980 --> 01:52:02,315
WERE SUCCESSFUL IN ADDING A 12 

3577
01:52:02,315 --> 01:52:06,086
HOUR PEAK TIME AID UNIT AT FIRE 

3578
01:52:06,086 --> 01:52:07,954
STATION 25 ON CAPITOL HILL, AND 

3579
01:52:07,954 --> 01:52:09,656
JULY 1st, THAT UNIT WENT INTO 

3580
01:52:09,656 --> 01:52:12,258
PLAY, AND IT'S RUNNING A LOT OF

3581
01:52:12,258 --> 01:52:14,060
CALLS BECAUSE STATION 25 IS A 

3582
01:52:14,060 --> 01:52:16,529
VERY BUSY PLACE. THAT EIGHT UNIT

3583
01:52:16,529 --> 01:52:17,864
RUNS ABOUT 6500 CALLS. THE 

3584
01:52:17,864 --> 01:52:19,632
ENGINE ALMOST 5000. AND THAT 

3585
01:52:19,632 --> 01:52:21,568
LADDER TRUCK, ABOUT 3500. SO 

3586
01:52:21,568 --> 01:52:24,504
THAT WAS VERY NEEDED. WE ALSO 

3587
01:52:24,504 --> 01:52:26,339
HAVE THREE HEALTH ONE UNITS FOR 

3588
01:52:26,339 --> 01:52:27,440
FIRE BOATS. AND WE'LL BE 

3589
01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:29,576
TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THOSE 

3590
01:52:29,576 --> 01:52:31,578
TODAY. TWO AIR TRUCKS AND TWO 

3591
01:52:31,578 --> 01:52:32,846
HOSE WAGONS. AND YOU CAN 

3592
01:52:32,846 --> 01:52:35,014
ACTUALLY SEE OUR STATION 

3593
01:52:35,014 --> 01:52:35,615
DISTRIBUTION AROUND THE CITY 

3594
01:52:35,615 --> 01:52:37,484
VERY EVENLY DISTRIBUTED AND 

3595
01:52:37,484 --> 01:52:39,786
GIVES US A CHANCE TO GET TO MOST

3596
01:52:39,786 --> 01:52:41,955
CALLS IN A TIMELY MANNER. AND 

3597
01:52:41,955 --> 01:52:45,825
THE NEXT SLIDE GIVES US A CALL 

3598
01:52:45,825 --> 01:52:47,460
OF OUR FIRE ALARM CENTER CALLS 

3599
01:52:47,460 --> 01:52:48,561
THAT COME IN THE BREAKDOWN. SO 

3600
01:52:48,561 --> 01:52:49,896
YOU CAN SEE IT'S A VERY BUSY 

3601
01:52:49,896 --> 01:52:52,866
PLACE, AND WE PROJECTED OUT TO 

3602
01:52:52,866 --> 01:52:54,801
2027. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK 

3603
01:52:54,801 --> 01:52:57,604
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IN ABOUT 

3604
01:52:57,604 --> 01:52:58,238
184,000 CALLS. AND THAT'S A 

3605
01:52:58,238 --> 01:53:02,709
PRETTY BUSY PLACE. WE GENERALLY 

3606
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:03,209
HAVE EIGHT FIREFIGHTER 

3607
01:53:03,209 --> 01:53:04,778
DISPATCHERS AT THE FIRE ALARM 

3608
01:53:04,778 --> 01:53:07,814
CENTER, 24/7. THEY WORK A FOUR 

3609
01:53:07,814 --> 01:53:09,082
PLATOON SYSTEM, JUST LIKE OUR 

3610
01:53:09,082 --> 01:53:11,684
FIREFIGHTERS AND ALL OF OUR 

3611
01:53:11,684 --> 01:53:12,752
STATIONS. AND THAT SEEMS TO WORK

3612
01:53:12,752 --> 01:53:14,687
REALLY WELL FOR US IN GETTING 

3613
01:53:14,687 --> 01:53:16,589
CALLS IN AND OUT. NOW WE REALLY 

3614
01:53:16,589 --> 01:53:20,193
WORK HARD TO COMPLY WITH NFPA 

3615
01:53:20,193 --> 01:53:22,228
1225 THAT'S OUR NATIONAL FIRE 

3616
01:53:22,228 --> 01:53:24,831
PROTECTION ASSOCIATION. 1225 

3617
01:53:24,831 --> 01:53:28,501
THAT IS THE STANDARD THAT GUIDES

3618
01:53:28,501 --> 01:53:30,436
CALL TAKING FOR THE FIRE 

3619
01:53:30,436 --> 01:53:32,105
SERVICE. WE HAVE GOALS THAT WE 

3620
01:53:32,105 --> 01:53:33,840
TRY TO MEET. WE DON'T ALWAYS GET

3621
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,243
THERE. IS TAKING IN THE CALL, 

3622
01:53:37,243 --> 01:53:37,877
ANSWERING THE CALL IN 15 SECONDS

3623
01:53:37,877 --> 01:53:41,514
OR LESS AND GETTING THE CALLS 

3624
01:53:41,514 --> 01:53:43,016
DISPATCHED IN 60s OR LESS. SO 

3625
01:53:43,016 --> 01:53:45,084
THOSE ARE THE GOALS THAT ARE SET

3626
01:53:45,084 --> 01:53:46,619
FOR THE FIRE SERVICE. AS FOR 

3627
01:53:46,619 --> 01:53:49,389
CALL TAKING, THAT'S REALLY 

3628
01:53:49,389 --> 01:53:50,490
IMPORTANT. AND THEN WE GO TO THE

3629
01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:52,959
NEXT SLIDE IS OUR TOTAL 

3630
01:53:52,959 --> 01:53:55,161
RESPONSES. AND SEATTLE FIRE IS 

3631
01:53:55,161 --> 01:53:57,897
ARE VERY, VERY BUSY DEPARTMENT. 

3632
01:53:57,897 --> 01:53:59,465
WE RUN A LOT OF CALLS AND WE'RE

3633
01:53:59,465 --> 01:54:01,734
BUSY. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT, 

3634
01:54:01,734 --> 01:54:03,436
YOU CAN SEE THE DOWN YEAR IN 

3635
01:54:03,436 --> 01:54:05,104
2021. THAT WAS A COVID 

3636
01:54:05,104 --> 01:54:07,140
EXPERIENCE. IF WE WOULD INCLUDE 

3637
01:54:07,140 --> 01:54:09,742
IT 2020, IT WOULD HAVE SAID 

3638
01:54:09,742 --> 01:54:11,277
ABOUT 79 CALLS. BUT WE STARTED 

3639
01:54:11,277 --> 01:54:13,546
TO GET BACK TO NORMAL IN 2021, 

3640
01:54:13,546 --> 01:54:17,450
AND WE QUICKLY STARTED RISING 

3641
01:54:17,450 --> 01:54:18,785
ANNUALLY, AND WE ADDED SOME 

3642
01:54:18,785 --> 01:54:19,919
OTHER BARS ON THERE THAT WE 

3643
01:54:19,919 --> 01:54:21,688
THINK IS RELEVANT BECAUSE WE 

3644
01:54:21,688 --> 01:54:25,325
HAVE ADDED SOME HELP TO OUR 

3645
01:54:25,325 --> 01:54:27,260
SYSTEM, BECAUSE IF WE WOULD NOT 

3646
01:54:27,260 --> 01:54:28,394
HAVE ADDED OUR NIH, WHICH IS OUR

3647
01:54:28,394 --> 01:54:31,564
HEALTH ONE HEALTH, 99 UNITS, ALL

3648
01:54:31,564 --> 01:54:34,500
OF THAT GREEN BAR WOULD BE ON 

3649
01:54:34,500 --> 01:54:36,502
TOP OF THE BLUE BAR. SO THAT 

3650
01:54:36,502 --> 01:54:39,239
GIVES US AN OPTION. I'M SORRY, 

3651
01:54:39,239 --> 01:54:41,074
THE THE ORANGE BAR, THOSE ARE 

3652
01:54:41,074 --> 01:54:42,675
OUR NIH CALLS. THE GREEN BAR IS 

3653
01:54:42,675 --> 01:54:44,978
OUR NURSE LINE CALLS. THAT'S 

3654
01:54:44,978 --> 01:54:46,613
PRETTY IMPORTANT. WE PUT THAT IN

3655
01:54:46,613 --> 01:54:50,917
PLAY FEBRUARY IN 2022. AND THAT 

3656
01:54:50,917 --> 01:54:53,920
ALLOWED US ANOTHER OPTION TO 

3657
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:54,954
SEND THOSE LOWER LEVEL EMS CALLS

3658
01:54:54,954 --> 01:54:56,422
TO SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A 

3659
01:54:56,422 --> 01:54:59,959
NURSE LINE. BUT BEFORE 2022, ALL

3660
01:54:59,959 --> 01:55:02,295
OF THOSE CALLS WOULD HAVE BEEN 

3661
01:55:02,295 --> 01:55:03,563
DISPATCHERS. SO THAT WOULD HAVE 

3662
01:55:03,563 --> 01:55:04,764
REALLY EXTENDED THE BLUE BAR. 

3663
01:55:04,764 --> 01:55:06,666
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH 

3664
01:55:06,666 --> 01:55:08,234
THAT'S EXPECTED THIS YEAR AND 

3665
01:55:08,234 --> 01:55:08,868
NEXT YEAR. AND YOU CAN KIND OF 

3666
01:55:08,868 --> 01:55:11,537
SEE THE PACE WE'RE ON RIGHT 

3667
01:55:11,537 --> 01:55:13,339
NOW. SO IT'S A BUSY PLACE OUT 

3668
01:55:13,339 --> 01:55:14,974
THERE FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. WE 

3669
01:55:14,974 --> 01:55:17,677
RUN A LOT OF CALLS AND TRICIA 

3670
01:55:17,677 --> 01:55:18,978
AND I WERE GOING TO TAG TEAM 

3671
01:55:18,978 --> 01:55:21,481
THIS. SO THIS IS WHEN I THINK I 

3672
01:55:21,481 --> 01:55:23,883
HAND IT TO YOU. 

3673
01:55:23,883 --> 01:55:24,117
-- YEP. 

3674
01:55:24,117 --> 01:55:25,351
-- GOOD AFTERNOON. SO AS THE 

3675
01:55:25,351 --> 01:55:27,053
CHIEF WAS MENTIONING, THE FIRE 

3676
01:55:27,053 --> 01:55:28,921
DEPARTMENT PROVIDES FIRE 

3677
01:55:28,921 --> 01:55:30,256
PROTECTION PREVENTION, TECHNICAL

3678
01:55:30,256 --> 01:55:32,425
RESCUE, AND OF COURSE EMERGENCY 

3679
01:55:32,425 --> 01:55:33,960
MEDICAL SERVICES FOR THE ENTIRE 

3680
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,029
CITY. SO TO HELP ADDRESS THE 

3681
01:55:36,029 --> 01:55:38,064
CITY'S LONG TERM GENERAL FUND 

3682
01:55:38,064 --> 01:55:40,533
DEFICIT, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET 

3683
01:55:40,533 --> 01:55:43,469
DOES REDUCE THE DEPARTMENT'S 

3684
01:55:43,469 --> 01:55:44,103
OVERTIME OPERATING BUDGET BY 7.1

3685
01:55:44,103 --> 01:55:47,640
MILLION. THE NET REDUCTION IN 

3686
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:51,477
2027 IS 2% OF OUR TOTAL 

3687
01:55:51,477 --> 01:55:53,046
DEPARTMENT BUDGET. SO IF WE LOOK

3688
01:55:53,046 --> 01:55:58,484
AT THE TABLE BELOW IN 2026, OUR 

3689
01:55:58,484 --> 01:55:59,085
ADOPTED BASELINE IS ABOUT 350 

3690
01:55:59,085 --> 01:56:02,922
MILLION. IN 2027, IT DROPS TO 

3691
01:56:02,922 --> 01:56:07,460
346 AND THEN BACK UP IN 2028. SO

3692
01:56:07,460 --> 01:56:07,994
THAT REDUCTION IS OFFSET 

3693
01:56:07,994 --> 01:56:09,062
PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF OUR CITY 

3694
01:56:09,062 --> 01:56:10,596
WIDE STANDARD COST INCREASES, 

3695
01:56:10,596 --> 01:56:14,567
SUCH AS HEALTH CARE WORKERS COMP

3696
01:56:14,567 --> 01:56:15,635
AND SMALLER INCREASES FOR IT 

3697
01:56:15,635 --> 01:56:19,939
SERVICES AND FAS. 

3698
01:56:19,939 --> 01:56:23,576
-- AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE 

3699
01:56:23,576 --> 01:56:23,943
FTE COUNT AND. 

3700
01:56:23,943 --> 01:56:25,345
-- YEAH. 

3701
01:56:25,345 --> 01:56:27,613
-- OKAY. MOST OF THAT FTE COUNT 

3702
01:56:27,613 --> 01:56:28,981
IS SWORN FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE 

3703
01:56:28,981 --> 01:56:30,149
RESPONDING OUT THE DOOR. SO YOU 

3704
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:32,952
SEE THE NUMBER IN 2020 612. 1220

3705
01:56:32,952 --> 01:56:34,287
AND THEN IT BUMPS UP A LITTLE 

3706
01:56:34,287 --> 01:56:35,288
BIT. AND WE'LL GET INTO THE 

3707
01:56:35,288 --> 01:56:37,924
REASON WHY THAT'S BUMPING UP. 

3708
01:56:37,924 --> 01:56:39,726
BUT THE BULK OF ALL OF THOSE 

3709
01:56:39,726 --> 01:56:43,997
POSITIONS ARE SWORN 

3710
01:56:43,997 --> 01:56:45,131
FIREFIGHTERS, PROBABLY 1110. AND

3711
01:56:45,131 --> 01:56:45,765
THAT NUMBER WILL BE BUMPING UP A

3712
01:56:45,765 --> 01:56:48,534
LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SO THAT'S 

3713
01:56:48,534 --> 01:56:53,573
WHAT THE FTE COUNT IS 

3714
01:56:53,573 --> 01:56:54,073
-- THANKS, CHIEF. OKAY. 

3715
01:56:54,073 --> 01:56:55,341
-- WE'LL TALK NEXT ABOUT THE 

3716
01:56:55,341 --> 01:56:58,711
REDUCTION. SO AS I SAID EARLIER,

3717
01:56:58,711 --> 01:57:00,880
WE ARE REDUCING OUR OPERATING 

3718
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,516
OVERTIME BY 7.1 MILLION. SO THIS

3719
01:57:03,516 --> 01:57:05,418
CHANGE REFLECTS THE BUDGET 

3720
01:57:05,418 --> 01:57:07,687
CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE IN. WHILE

3721
01:57:07,687 --> 01:57:10,256
STILL MAINTAINING OUR ABILITY TO

3722
01:57:10,256 --> 01:57:10,890
PROVIDE THAT EMERGENCY RESPONSE 

3723
01:57:10,890 --> 01:57:13,860
SERVICE HOWEVER, THIS REDUCTION 

3724
01:57:13,860 --> 01:57:15,228
REQUIRES THE DEPARTMENT TO 

3725
01:57:15,228 --> 01:57:16,262
MANAGE STAFFING WITHIN THOSE 

3726
01:57:16,262 --> 01:57:18,030
AVAILABLE RESOURCES. SO THAT 

3727
01:57:18,030 --> 01:57:20,933
INCLUDES PLANNED UNIT OUTAGES. 

3728
01:57:20,933 --> 01:57:22,235
SO IF UNITS ARE TEMPORARILY OUT 

3729
01:57:22,235 --> 01:57:25,037
OF SERVICE, THE DEPARTMENT WILL 

3730
01:57:25,037 --> 01:57:26,706
CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THOSE CORE 

3731
01:57:26,706 --> 01:57:29,342
SERVICES. FIRE AND EMERGENCY 

3732
01:57:29,342 --> 01:57:30,410
RESPONSE WITH THE APPARATUS AND 

3733
01:57:30,410 --> 01:57:32,011
THE STAFF WE HAVE ON HAND. 

3734
01:57:32,011 --> 01:57:35,448
-- YEAH. AND TO GIVE A LITTLE 

3735
01:57:35,448 --> 01:57:36,416
PERSPECTIVE HERE, YOU MAY SAY, 

3736
01:57:36,416 --> 01:57:38,017
WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO 

3737
01:57:38,017 --> 01:57:39,919
WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US IN ORDER 

3738
01:57:39,919 --> 01:57:44,791
TO ACHIEVE A $7.1 MILLION BUDGET

3739
01:57:44,791 --> 01:57:47,460
REDUCTION, OUR DAILY STAFFING 

3740
01:57:47,460 --> 01:57:51,998
NEEDS TO GO FROM 222 PER DAY TO 

3741
01:57:51,998 --> 01:57:54,600
209 PER DAY. SO THAT'S 13 BODIES

3742
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:55,802
THAT WILL NOT BE STAFFED EACH 

3743
01:57:55,802 --> 01:57:59,172
DAY. NOW, THAT'S NOT TAKING A 

3744
01:57:59,172 --> 01:58:01,107
SINGLE UNIT OUT OF SERVICE. SO I

3745
01:58:01,107 --> 01:58:04,610
NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS. SO YOU 

3746
01:58:04,610 --> 01:58:06,512
HAVE CONTEXT. SO OUR 222 

3747
01:58:06,512 --> 01:58:08,147
FIREFIGHTERS WE HAVE ON DUTY 

3748
01:58:08,147 --> 01:58:10,483
EVERY DAY. THEY GET VACATION 

3749
01:58:10,483 --> 01:58:12,318
TIME. THEY HAVE PEOPLE BECAUSE 

3750
01:58:12,318 --> 01:58:14,020
WE HAVE A VERY YOUNG DEPARTMENT 

3751
01:58:14,020 --> 01:58:14,954
AND WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF NEW 

3752
01:58:14,954 --> 01:58:16,322
BABIES. JUST TO GIVE YOU 

3753
01:58:16,322 --> 01:58:20,426
PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE HIRED ABOUT

3754
01:58:20,426 --> 01:58:21,727
630 FIREFIGHTERS SINCE I'VE BEEN

3755
01:58:21,727 --> 01:58:24,363
HERE IN 11 YEARS. WE HAVE TRULY 

3756
01:58:24,363 --> 01:58:25,531
GONE THROUGH A DEPARTMENT 

3757
01:58:25,531 --> 01:58:27,333
TRANSITION, SO WE'VE BEEN BUSY 

3758
01:58:27,333 --> 01:58:28,734
HIRING. SO THEY HAVE PEOPLE, 

3759
01:58:28,734 --> 01:58:30,103
THEY HAVE SICK LEAVE, THEY HAVE 

3760
01:58:30,103 --> 01:58:31,671
DISABILITY. AT ANY GIVEN TIME, 

3761
01:58:31,671 --> 01:58:35,541
WE HAVE BETWEEN 4 AND 7% OF THE 

3762
01:58:35,541 --> 01:58:36,642
DEPARTMENT ON SOME SORT OF 

3763
01:58:36,642 --> 01:58:38,644
DISABILITY. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, 

3764
01:58:38,644 --> 01:58:39,278
MOST ARE MUSCULOSKELETAL. WE DO 

3765
01:58:39,278 --> 01:58:40,580
A LOT OF STRANGE MOVING WITH A 

3766
01:58:40,580 --> 01:58:42,682
LOT OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT. AND THEN

3767
01:58:42,682 --> 01:58:45,351
THERE'S A NUMBER OF THOSE PTSD.

3768
01:58:45,351 --> 01:58:48,154
SO DROPPING FROM 222 TO 209 WILL

3769
01:58:48,154 --> 01:58:51,657
BE DONE BY NOT HIRING OVERTIME. 

3770
01:58:51,657 --> 01:58:53,292
AND OVERTIME IS A BIT 

3771
01:58:53,292 --> 01:58:55,194
MISLEADING. IT HELPS US ACHIEVE 

3772
01:58:55,194 --> 01:58:58,231
OUR MINIMUM STAFFING. WHEN YOU 

3773
01:58:58,231 --> 01:58:59,599
THINK OVERTIME, YOU THINK OF 

3774
01:58:59,599 --> 01:59:00,633
ANCILLARY DUTIES AND THINGS LIKE

3775
01:59:00,633 --> 01:59:02,335
THAT. BUT FOR US, THE BULK OF 

3776
01:59:02,335 --> 01:59:07,440
OUR OVERTIME IS MINIMUM 

3777
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:08,040
STAFFING. ONLY ABOUT 6 TO $7 

3778
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:09,542
MILLION IS OTHER TYPES OF 

3779
01:59:09,542 --> 01:59:11,010
OVERTIME THAT WE GET GRANT 

3780
01:59:11,010 --> 01:59:13,246
FUNDING FOR. WE HAVE CONTRACTS 

3781
01:59:13,246 --> 01:59:14,347
WITH THE STADIUMS, AND THEN WE 

3782
01:59:14,347 --> 01:59:16,749
HAVE SOME OVERTIME TO MAINTAIN 

3783
01:59:16,749 --> 01:59:18,050
SOME OF OUR COMPETENCIES, LIKE 

3784
01:59:18,050 --> 01:59:19,118
OUR MEDICS AND OUR RESCUE 

3785
01:59:19,118 --> 01:59:21,721
TECHNICIANS, OUR HAZMAT 

3786
01:59:21,721 --> 01:59:24,090
TECHNICIANS. BUT THE BULK OF 

3787
01:59:24,090 --> 01:59:28,161
THAT IS REALLY MINIMUM STAFFING.

3788
01:59:28,161 --> 01:59:29,128
SO TO GO FROM 222 TO 209, WHAT 

3789
01:59:29,128 --> 01:59:30,696
DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, THAT MEANS

3790
01:59:30,696 --> 01:59:34,267
THAT WE WILL NOT BE STAFFING 

3791
01:59:34,267 --> 01:59:35,368
BETWEEN PROBABLY FOUR AND EIGHT 

3792
01:59:35,368 --> 01:59:38,237
UNITS A DAY. NOW, HOW WILL THAT 

3793
01:59:38,237 --> 01:59:39,939
WORK OUT? TO JUST GIVE YOU 

3794
01:59:39,939 --> 01:59:41,507
CLARITY AND PERSPECTIVE? SO TO 

3795
01:59:41,507 --> 01:59:45,111
GET TO THAT NUMBER, FOR EXAMPLE,

3796
01:59:45,111 --> 01:59:46,712
OUR THREE PEAK TIME AID CARS, 

3797
01:59:46,712 --> 01:59:47,747
ONE THAT JUST WENT IN PLAY IN 

3798
01:59:47,747 --> 01:59:50,583
JULY, ONCE ON CAPITOL HILL, ONE 

3799
01:59:50,583 --> 01:59:52,118
IN STATION TWO AND BELLTOWN AND 

3800
01:59:52,118 --> 01:59:54,453
ONE IS NORTHGATE. THEY PROBABLY 

3801
01:59:54,453 --> 01:59:56,222
WON'T BE STAFFED. THERE'S 

3802
01:59:56,222 --> 01:59:57,456
PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MEDIC 

3803
01:59:57,456 --> 02:00:01,694
UNITS. MEDIC 26 IN SOUTH PARK 

3804
02:00:01,694 --> 02:00:03,529
AND MEDIC 31 IN NORTHGATE. FAR 

3805
02:00:03,529 --> 02:00:05,665
ENDS OF OUR CITY. THEY MAY NOT 

3806
02:00:05,665 --> 02:00:07,099
BE STAFFED ON SOME DAYS. THERE 

3807
02:00:07,099 --> 02:00:09,168
WILL PROBABLY BE SOME ENGINES 

3808
02:00:09,168 --> 02:00:12,004
NOT STAFFED. ENGINE 22, WHICH IS

3809
02:00:12,004 --> 02:00:15,074
ON ROANOKE. ENGINE 16, WHICH IS 

3810
02:00:15,074 --> 02:00:16,475
NEAR GREEN LAKE. AND THERE COULD

3811
02:00:16,475 --> 02:00:18,144
BE A LADDER TRUCK NOT STAFFED. 

3812
02:00:18,144 --> 02:00:22,448
LADDER SIX ON QUEEN ANNE OR 

3813
02:00:22,448 --> 02:00:23,616
LADDER 13 DOWN IN WEST SEATTLE, 

3814
02:00:23,616 --> 02:00:25,418
AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOME 

3815
02:00:25,418 --> 02:00:26,752
COMBINATION DEPENDING ON WHO'S 

3816
02:00:26,752 --> 02:00:28,788
OFF. AND THEN OUR STAFFING TEAM 

3817
02:00:28,788 --> 02:00:30,122
WILL WORK TO FILL ALL THE SPOTS 

3818
02:00:30,122 --> 02:00:33,192
AND WILL DETERMINE WHAT WE LEAVE

3819
02:00:33,192 --> 02:00:34,860
VACANT. NOW WE HAVE A STAFFING 

3820
02:00:34,860 --> 02:00:38,898
MATRIX ON HOW WE DO THAT. AND 

3821
02:00:38,898 --> 02:00:39,498
THE REASON WHY THOSE STATIONS 

3822
02:00:39,498 --> 02:00:43,636
AND UNITS ARE LISTED IS OUR 

3823
02:00:43,636 --> 02:00:44,770
ENGINES. WE REALLY FOCUS ON 

3824
02:00:44,770 --> 02:00:46,639
ENGINES THAT CAN HAVE COVERAGE 

3825
02:00:46,639 --> 02:00:47,273
SURROUNDING. EVEN THOUGH IT'S 

3826
02:00:47,273 --> 02:00:48,808
GOING TO BE A LONGER RESPONSE. 

3827
02:00:48,808 --> 02:00:51,677
IF YOU KNOW 16 IS RIGHT NEAR 

3828
02:00:51,677 --> 02:00:53,446
GREEN LAKE, THEN WE HAVE 17 TO 

3829
02:00:53,446 --> 02:00:55,214
THE EAST, WE HAVE 20 ONES AND 

3830
02:00:55,214 --> 02:00:57,183
NINES. WE HAVE 30 ONES TO THE 

3831
02:00:57,183 --> 02:01:00,052
NORTH. AND BUT IT'S A DRIVE TO 

3832
02:01:00,052 --> 02:01:01,587
GET THERE TO GO ON THOSE CALLS. 

3833
02:01:01,587 --> 02:01:03,522
16 IS ON ROANOKE. WELL, WE GOT 

3834
02:01:03,522 --> 02:01:06,559
25 ON CAPITOL HILL. WE GOT 17 IN

3835
02:01:06,559 --> 02:01:08,427
THE U DISTRICT, AND WE HAVE 

3836
02:01:08,427 --> 02:01:09,428
OTHER STATIONS. BUT IT'S A DRIVE

3837
02:01:09,428 --> 02:01:12,531
TO GET THERE. IF YOU KNOW THE 

3838
02:01:12,531 --> 02:01:14,734
GEOGRAPHY. SO THERE WILL BE SOME

3839
02:01:14,734 --> 02:01:16,302
MOVEMENT OF RESOURCES, BUT THERE

3840
02:01:16,302 --> 02:01:18,204
WILL BE SOME STATIONS OR 

3841
02:01:18,204 --> 02:01:19,405
DISTRICTS THAT WILL HAVE SOME 

3842
02:01:19,405 --> 02:01:20,873
DIFFERENT TYPES OF COVERAGE. 

3843
02:01:20,873 --> 02:01:23,175
BECAUSE IF WE'RE STAFFING DOWN 

3844
02:01:23,175 --> 02:01:24,577
13 BODIES, THAT'S WHAT THAT 

3845
02:01:24,577 --> 02:01:25,611
WOULD MEAN. SO WE WANT TO MAKE 

3846
02:01:25,611 --> 02:01:26,679
SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR. IT'S 

3847
02:01:26,679 --> 02:01:30,116
GOING TO BE LESS FIREFIGHTERS ON

3848
02:01:30,116 --> 02:01:31,417
DUTY EACH AND EVERY DAY. AND 

3849
02:01:31,417 --> 02:01:33,419
THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE. WE 

3850
02:01:33,419 --> 02:01:33,986
JUST THINK ABOUT WEDNESDAY 

3851
02:01:33,986 --> 02:01:35,588
NIGHT. THIS WEEK WE HAD THE 

3852
02:01:35,588 --> 02:01:36,822
SOUNDERS PLAYING. WE HAD THE 

3853
02:01:36,822 --> 02:01:38,257
MARINERS PLAYING AND WE HAD THE 

3854
02:01:38,257 --> 02:01:39,859
STORM PLAYING. AND WE HAVE FOLKS

3855
02:01:39,859 --> 02:01:41,394
WORKING AT ALL THOSE EVENTS. BUT

3856
02:01:41,394 --> 02:01:43,462
WE HAVE BETWEEN PROBABLY TEN AND

3857
02:01:43,462 --> 02:01:45,965
20,000 PEOPLE AT THOSE EVENTS. 

3858
02:01:45,965 --> 02:01:46,565
ARE FIREFIGHTERS AND STATIONS 

3859
02:01:46,565 --> 02:01:47,933
ARE THE BACKSTOPS FOR ALL OF 

3860
02:01:47,933 --> 02:01:48,701
THOSE EVENTS. EVEN THOUGH WE 

3861
02:01:48,701 --> 02:01:51,971
HAVE PEOPLE ON SITE. BUT SO THE 

3862
02:01:51,971 --> 02:01:52,938
IMPACTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AND 

3863
02:01:52,938 --> 02:01:54,373
IT'S GOING TO MEAN LONGER 

3864
02:01:54,373 --> 02:01:55,608
RESPONSE TIMES. THAT'S WHAT 

3865
02:01:55,608 --> 02:01:57,076
IT'S REALLY GOING TO MEAN. I'M

3866
02:01:57,076 --> 02:01:58,544
SORRY. TRICIA GO AHEAD. 

3867
02:01:58,544 --> 02:02:00,579
-- ALL RIGHT. SO THE TABLE DOWN 

3868
02:02:00,579 --> 02:02:06,485
BELOW JUST TO GO OVER THAT 2026 

3869
02:02:06,485 --> 02:02:07,119
ADOPTED BASELINE IS 41 MILLION 

3870
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:12,625
OF OUR OPERATING OVERTIME. THIS 

3871
02:02:12,625 --> 02:02:13,259
REDUCTION WOULD REFLECT A 33.7 

3872
02:02:13,259 --> 02:02:18,497
MILLION BUDGET IN 2027. ONGOING 

3873
02:02:18,497 --> 02:02:20,366
IN 2028, IT'S A 17% REDUCTION 

3874
02:02:20,366 --> 02:02:22,401
IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET OVERTIME

3875
02:02:22,401 --> 02:02:25,371
BUDGET. EXCUSE ME OKAY, SO 

3876
02:02:25,371 --> 02:02:28,174
LET'S TALK ADDITIONS. OUR 

3877
02:02:28,174 --> 02:02:29,809
PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES 

3878
02:02:29,809 --> 02:02:33,145
ADDITIONS INTO OUR BASELINE, 

3879
02:02:33,145 --> 02:02:35,347
APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION FOR TWO

3880
02:02:35,347 --> 02:02:38,084
AREAS UTILITIES AND MAINTENANCE.

3881
02:02:38,084 --> 02:02:39,785
SO THAT MAKES UP THAT 1 MILLION.

3882
02:02:39,785 --> 02:02:43,389
SO TO GO OVER IT, 450,000 IS AN 

3883
02:02:43,389 --> 02:02:44,457
INCREASE IN OUR UTILITY 

3884
02:02:44,457 --> 02:02:45,791
BASELINE. AND THAT HELPS TO 

3885
02:02:45,791 --> 02:02:48,127
SUPPORT OUR 33 FIRE STATIONS AND

3886
02:02:48,127 --> 02:02:51,330
ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS 

3887
02:02:51,330 --> 02:02:53,899
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE 570,000 TO

3888
02:02:53,899 --> 02:02:54,533
SUPPORT OUR MAINTENANCE BUDGET. 

3889
02:02:54,533 --> 02:02:58,337
AND THAT IS TO MITIGATE THE COST

3890
02:02:58,337 --> 02:03:00,973
PRESSURES FROM INFLATION. THAT 

3891
02:03:00,973 --> 02:03:01,574
MAINTENANCE BUDGET HELPS OUR 

3892
02:03:01,574 --> 02:03:05,077
EQUIPMENT FLEET, FIRE BOATS AND 

3893
02:03:05,077 --> 02:03:05,377
BUILDINGS. 

3894
02:03:05,377 --> 02:03:06,612
-- YEAH. 

3895
02:03:06,612 --> 02:03:07,880
-- AND JUST LIKE THE COSTS ARE 

3896
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:09,548
GOING UP IN THE WORLD FOR 

3897
02:03:09,548 --> 02:03:10,649
UTILITIES, THEY GO UP FOR US 

3898
02:03:10,649 --> 02:03:13,519
TOO. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY

3899
02:03:13,519 --> 02:03:15,654
HELPFUL. OUR INVENTORY TO KEEP 

3900
02:03:15,654 --> 02:03:17,189
OUR 33 STATIONS SUPPLIED AND ALL

3901
02:03:17,189 --> 02:03:18,424
THE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE AND 

3902
02:03:18,424 --> 02:03:19,458
THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CONTINUES 

3903
02:03:19,458 --> 02:03:21,894
TO GO UP. SO WE REALLY 

3904
02:03:21,894 --> 02:03:22,561
APPRECIATE THESE ADDITIONS. WE 

3905
02:03:22,561 --> 02:03:24,430
THINK THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A 

3906
02:03:24,430 --> 02:03:27,066
DIFFERENCE IN HELPING MOVE US 

3907
02:03:27,066 --> 02:03:27,333
FORWARD. 

3908
02:03:27,333 --> 02:03:30,503
-- ALL RIGHT. SO FOR OUR ADOPTED

3909
02:03:30,503 --> 02:03:31,937
BUDGET IN 2026, FOR THOSE TWO 

3910
02:03:31,937 --> 02:03:33,172
LINES OF UTILITY AND 

3911
02:03:33,172 --> 02:03:34,774
MAINTENANCE, THAT'S 2 MILLION 

3912
02:03:34,774 --> 02:03:37,009
OR JUST OVER. SO THAT ADDS AN 

3913
02:03:37,009 --> 02:03:41,046
ADDITIONAL 1 MILLION AT 51% 

3914
02:03:41,046 --> 02:03:43,516
INCREASE. ALL RIGHT. RELATED 

3915
02:03:43,516 --> 02:03:44,850
ADDITIONS. NOT IN OUR BUDGET, 

3916
02:03:44,850 --> 02:03:47,586
BUT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A

3917
02:03:47,586 --> 02:03:49,655
CAPITAL NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT 

3918
02:03:49,655 --> 02:03:52,525
PROGRAM FOR FIRE STATION 25 

3919
02:03:52,525 --> 02:03:55,194
RENOVATIONS. THE ESTIMATED 

3920
02:03:55,194 --> 02:03:56,429
PROJECT COST IS 8.7 MILLION, AND

3921
02:03:56,429 --> 02:04:00,633
THAT IS TO HELP REPAIR THE ROOF 

3922
02:04:00,633 --> 02:04:02,401
HVAC SYSTEMS, HOOD PROJECT AND 

3923
02:04:02,401 --> 02:04:04,770
SOME OTHER OUTDATED SYSTEMS. SO 

3924
02:04:04,770 --> 02:04:06,772
THIS IS PARTIALLY FUNDED WITH 

3925
02:04:06,772 --> 02:04:09,341
FAS FUND BALANCE AS WELL AS BOND

3926
02:04:09,341 --> 02:04:14,013
FINANCING IN THE LAST THAT WE'LL

3927
02:04:14,013 --> 02:04:16,215
MENTION HERE, THE CHIEF 

3928
02:04:16,215 --> 02:04:18,250
MENTIONED ON THE BOAT. SO IN THE

3929
02:04:18,250 --> 02:04:19,985
2026 YEAR END SUPPLEMENTAL, WE 

3930
02:04:19,985 --> 02:04:21,787
HAVE REQUESTED 2 MILLION TO HELP

3931
02:04:21,787 --> 02:04:23,923
GET US STARTED ON REPAIRING THE 

3932
02:04:23,923 --> 02:04:26,492
FIREBOAT, WHICH HAS BEEN OUT OF 

3933
02:04:26,492 --> 02:04:29,128
SERVICE FULLY SINCE JANUARY. 

3934
02:04:29,128 --> 02:04:29,795
-- AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 

3935
02:04:29,795 --> 02:04:31,797
FOR US. WE HAVE FOUR FIREBOATS 

3936
02:04:31,797 --> 02:04:35,534
IN OUR FLEET THAT FLOW WATER. 

3937
02:04:35,534 --> 02:04:36,168
THE LESS SHY IS THE BIGGEST OF 

3938
02:04:36,168 --> 02:04:39,338
OUR BOATS. IT FLOWS OVER 20,000 

3939
02:04:39,338 --> 02:04:40,306
GALLONS A MINUTE. GENERALLY 

3940
02:04:40,306 --> 02:04:41,440
IT'S ON THE SOUND. AND AS YOU 

3941
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,275
CAN THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE 

3942
02:04:43,275 --> 02:04:45,544
COMMERCE THAT COMES THROUGH THE 

3943
02:04:45,544 --> 02:04:47,580
RECREATION, THE INDUSTRY, 

3944
02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:48,881
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT 

3945
02:04:48,881 --> 02:04:51,116
RESOURCE FOR US. WE ALSO HAVE 

3946
02:04:51,116 --> 02:04:52,284
ANOTHER FIREBOAT CHIEF SEATTLE. 

3947
02:04:52,284 --> 02:04:54,320
IT FLOWS ABOUT 10,000 GALLONS A 

3948
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,322
MINUTE. NORMALLY THAT IS ON THE 

3949
02:04:56,322 --> 02:04:57,723
FRESHWATER AT TERMINAL THREE, 

3950
02:04:57,723 --> 02:04:59,658
BUT WE'VE MOVED IT OVER TO THE 

3951
02:04:59,658 --> 02:05:02,962
SOUND RIGHT NOW. AND WE ALSO 

3952
02:05:02,962 --> 02:05:04,730
HAVE TWO OTHER FIREBOATS THAT 

3953
02:05:04,730 --> 02:05:05,264
FLOW ABOUT 6000 GALLONS A 

3954
02:05:05,264 --> 02:05:07,399
MINUTE. SO THE LESS SHY GETTING 

3955
02:05:07,399 --> 02:05:08,634
THAT BACK IN SERVICE IS REALLY 

3956
02:05:08,634 --> 02:05:15,174
IMPORTANT FOR US. SO WE REALLY 

3957
02:05:15,174 --> 02:05:15,674
APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. 

3958
02:05:15,674 --> 02:05:17,776
-- OKAY. AND OUR LAST ITEM 

3959
02:05:17,776 --> 02:05:19,678
POSITION CHANGES. SO THIS IS 

3960
02:05:19,678 --> 02:05:21,714
BASICALLY A TECHNICAL POSITION 

3961
02:05:21,714 --> 02:05:24,116
REQUEST. THIS IS ADDING THIS 

3962
02:05:24,116 --> 02:05:26,018
REQUEST IS JUST POSITION 

3963
02:05:26,018 --> 02:05:27,620
AUTHORITY FOR TEN FIREFIGHTER 

3964
02:05:27,620 --> 02:05:28,187
POSITIONS DEDICATED TO THE 

3965
02:05:28,187 --> 02:05:30,189
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH 

3966
02:05:30,189 --> 02:05:32,124
PROGRAM. THIS IS BUDGET NEUTRAL 

3967
02:05:32,124 --> 02:05:34,226
AS THE FUNDING WAS PREVIOUSLY 

3968
02:05:34,226 --> 02:05:36,061
ADOPTED IN PRIOR YEAR BUDGETS. 

3969
02:05:36,061 --> 02:05:39,198
AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, THE MOBILE

3970
02:05:39,198 --> 02:05:39,732
INTEGRATED HEALTH PROGRAM 

3971
02:05:39,732 --> 02:05:42,034
STARTED WAY BACK IN 2016 IN 

3972
02:05:42,034 --> 02:05:44,236
PARTNERSHIP WITH HSD. SINCE 

3973
02:05:44,236 --> 02:05:47,473
THEN, THE THE PROGRAM HAS GROWN 

3974
02:05:47,473 --> 02:05:49,975
DUE TO ITS SUCCESS. WE'VE HAVE 

3975
02:05:49,975 --> 02:05:51,477
MULTIPLE HEALTH ONE UNITS AS 

3976
02:05:51,477 --> 02:05:53,979
WELL AS OVERDOSE AND POST 

3977
02:05:53,979 --> 02:05:55,915
OVERDOSE TEAMS. WHAT THIS IS 

3978
02:05:55,915 --> 02:05:57,683
DOING IS ADDING POSITION 

3979
02:05:57,683 --> 02:05:58,250
AUTHORITY TO RECOGNIZE THAT 

3980
02:05:58,250 --> 02:06:00,119
EXPANDED GROWTH SINCE 2016 AND 

3981
02:06:00,119 --> 02:06:02,388
ALIGNING THE POSITIONS TO THE 

3982
02:06:02,388 --> 02:06:04,023
FUNDING THAT ALREADY EXISTS. 

3983
02:06:04,023 --> 02:06:05,057
-- AND IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO

3984
02:06:05,057 --> 02:06:06,358
RECOGNIZE, I THINK I'VE SEEN A 

3985
02:06:06,358 --> 02:06:07,993
COUPLE OF NEWS REPORTS. THIS IS 

3986
02:06:07,993 --> 02:06:10,563
THESE ARE NOT NEW POSITIONS. 

3987
02:06:10,563 --> 02:06:11,597
THIS IS CLEANUP. WE WOULD LOVE 

3988
02:06:11,597 --> 02:06:13,933
TO HAVE TEN MORE POSITIONS FOR 

3989
02:06:13,933 --> 02:06:14,533
OUR MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH 

3990
02:06:14,533 --> 02:06:16,535
PROGRAM. BUT THIS IS CLEANUP FOR

3991
02:06:16,535 --> 02:06:19,004
THE EXISTING PROGRAM. 

3992
02:06:19,004 --> 02:06:21,607
-- ALL RIGHT. 

3993
02:06:21,607 --> 02:06:21,974
-- THAT'S IT. 

3994
02:06:21,974 --> 02:06:22,574
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, TRICIA. 

3995
02:06:22,574 --> 02:06:26,745
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. 

3996
02:06:26,745 --> 02:06:28,314
COLLEAGUES WILL BE FOCUSING A 

3997
02:06:28,314 --> 02:06:29,815
FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TALKING 

3998
02:06:29,815 --> 02:06:32,051
ABOUT OVER TALKING ABOUT 

3999
02:06:32,051 --> 02:06:34,186
STAFFING, TALKING IN THIS 

4000
02:06:34,186 --> 02:06:35,754
CONVERSATION. I'M GOING TO GO 

4001
02:06:35,754 --> 02:06:37,990
LAST AGAIN. SO COLLEAGUES, IF 

4002
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:39,591
YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, JUST 

4003
02:06:39,591 --> 02:06:40,492
GIVING YOU FAIR WARNING, FILLING

4004
02:06:40,492 --> 02:06:42,194
IN A LITTLE BIT OF THE ROLE OF 

4005
02:06:42,194 --> 02:06:42,928
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE TODAY, I'VE

4006
02:06:42,928 --> 02:06:44,563
GOT ABOUT 15 MINUTES WORTH OF 

4007
02:06:44,563 --> 02:06:47,099
BACK AND FORTH GOOGLE MAP, 

4008
02:06:47,099 --> 02:06:48,167
GOOGLE MAPPING THIS. IF WE ALL 

4009
02:06:48,167 --> 02:06:50,970
TAKE 15 MINUTES, WE'LL BE HERE 

4010
02:06:50,970 --> 02:06:51,837
TILL SIX. IF WE SPEND AS MUCH 

4011
02:06:51,837 --> 02:06:55,240
TIME AS WE DID WITH CARE, WE 

4012
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:57,776
WILL BE HERE UNTIL FIVE. IF WE 

4013
02:06:57,776 --> 02:06:58,777
USE SHAREPOINT TO ASK THE 

4014
02:06:58,777 --> 02:07:00,679
QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED, ANSWERS 

4015
02:07:00,679 --> 02:07:01,714
TO MAKE STATEMENTS AND PUT THEM 

4016
02:07:01,714 --> 02:07:02,648
ON THE RECORD, WE COULD BE OUT 

4017
02:07:02,648 --> 02:07:05,684
BY 430. SO THAT'S THE GOOGLE 

4018
02:07:05,684 --> 02:07:07,152
MAPS VERSION OF THIS TODAY. AND 

4019
02:07:07,152 --> 02:07:07,953
I DON'T SEE ANYONE WITH THEIR 

4020
02:07:07,953 --> 02:07:10,356
HANDS. SO I GUESS WE'RE DONE 

4021
02:07:10,356 --> 02:07:13,225
WITH THAT. OKAY. COUNCIL 

4022
02:07:13,225 --> 02:07:14,927
PRESIDENT EMERITUS. 

4023
02:07:14,927 --> 02:07:15,327
-- ONE QUESTION. 

4024
02:07:15,327 --> 02:07:16,028
-- BUT I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL

4025
02:07:16,028 --> 02:07:17,196
TALK ABOUT OVERTIME AND WE'LL 

4026
02:07:17,196 --> 02:07:20,432
GET TO THAT. SO HOW DOES THE 

4027
02:07:20,432 --> 02:07:23,502
DELAY OF THE FIRE STATION 31 

4028
02:07:23,502 --> 02:07:24,803
OPENING IN D5? HOW DOES THAT 

4029
02:07:24,803 --> 02:07:25,571
IMPACT STAFFING AND MAINTENANCE 

4030
02:07:25,571 --> 02:07:29,441
COST? YOU KNEW I WAS GOING TO 

4031
02:07:29,441 --> 02:07:30,943
RING UP STATION 31 AND D5. YOU 

4032
02:07:30,943 --> 02:07:32,544
KNEW THAT WAS 

4033
02:07:32,544 --> 02:07:32,878
-- [LAUGHTER] 

4034
02:07:32,878 --> 02:07:33,178
-- COMING. 

4035
02:07:33,178 --> 02:07:34,847
-- SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH

4036
02:07:34,847 --> 02:07:37,549
THE PEAK TIME EIGHT CAR NOT 

4037
02:07:37,549 --> 02:07:39,752
BEING STAFFED THERE? SO WHAT 

4038
02:07:39,752 --> 02:07:43,088
THAT WOULD MEAN IS ENGINE 31 AND

4039
02:07:43,088 --> 02:07:45,658
LADDER FIVE THAT ARE ALREADY AT 

4040
02:07:45,658 --> 02:07:47,526
THAT STATION WOULD RUN MORE 

4041
02:07:47,526 --> 02:07:49,061
CALLS OR STATION 24 AND BITTER 

4042
02:07:49,061 --> 02:07:53,999
LAKE OR STATION 39 IN LAKE CITY.

4043
02:07:53,999 --> 02:07:56,635
SO WHEN WE PUT A 31, THERE, 

4044
02:07:56,635 --> 02:07:58,303
PROBABLY IN 2017 OR 18, IT'S 

4045
02:07:58,303 --> 02:08:00,072
BECAUSE THOSE UNITS WERE RUNNING

4046
02:08:00,072 --> 02:08:02,007
SO MANY CALLS. WE NEEDED TO 

4047
02:08:02,007 --> 02:08:03,375
PROVIDE THEM SOME RELIEF, AND WE

4048
02:08:03,375 --> 02:08:05,444
NEEDED THAT ENGINE AND THAT 

4049
02:08:05,444 --> 02:08:07,179
LADDER AVAILABLE IF POSSIBLE. 

4050
02:08:07,179 --> 02:08:10,315
WHEN THE BIG DEAL HAPPENS. SO 

4051
02:08:10,315 --> 02:08:11,984
WHAT WE KNOW IS IF ENGINE 31, 

4052
02:08:11,984 --> 02:08:13,152
LADDER FIVE IS ON THE CALL, THAT

4053
02:08:13,152 --> 02:08:17,423
MEANS EITHER 39 IS COMING OUT OF

4054
02:08:17,423 --> 02:08:19,124
OUT OF LAKE CITY OR 17 OR 16 ARE

4055
02:08:19,124 --> 02:08:22,594
COMING UP FROM SOUTH TO NORTH OR

4056
02:08:22,594 --> 02:08:24,296
24 IS COMING OVER FROM BITTER 

4057
02:08:24,296 --> 02:08:25,898
LAKE. BUT GEOGRAPHICALLY, YOU 

4058
02:08:25,898 --> 02:08:27,699
CAN IMAGINE THAT'S GOING TO 

4059
02:08:27,699 --> 02:08:29,068
MEAN A LONGER RESPONSE TIME. YOU

4060
02:08:29,068 --> 02:08:30,869
KNOW, A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE UP

4061
02:08:30,869 --> 02:08:33,005
IN THAT AREA, THE STREETS 

4062
02:08:33,005 --> 02:08:37,109
BETWEEN I THINK, 98th AND 105th 

4063
02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:39,111
WERE CLOSED ON AURORA, FOR 

4064
02:08:39,111 --> 02:08:40,479
EXAMPLE. AND SO THAT IMPEDED OUR

4065
02:08:40,479 --> 02:08:41,814
AREA FOR GOING INTO 

4066
02:08:41,814 --> 02:08:42,715
NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE LOOKED AT 

4067
02:08:42,715 --> 02:08:44,083
THAT THE FIRST 90 DAYS IT WAS 

4068
02:08:44,083 --> 02:08:45,884
TAKING US 40s LONGER TO GET 

4069
02:08:45,884 --> 02:08:47,720
INSIDE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST 

4070
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:49,655
FROM THOSE STREETS BEING CLOSED.

4071
02:08:49,655 --> 02:08:50,689
WELL, NOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A 

4072
02:08:50,689 --> 02:08:52,591
UNIT IN THAT STATION, BECAUSE 

4073
02:08:52,591 --> 02:08:53,759
THOSE OTHER UNITS ARE ALREADY ON

4074
02:08:53,759 --> 02:08:55,127
CALLS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY 

4075
02:08:55,127 --> 02:08:56,395
VERY BUSY, WE KNOW IT'S JUST 

4076
02:08:56,395 --> 02:08:58,597
GOING TO TAKE LONGER FOR THE 

4077
02:08:58,597 --> 02:09:00,632
OTHER UNITS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS

4078
02:09:00,632 --> 02:09:01,800
TO COME IN, AND THEN IT LEAVES 

4079
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:03,836
THEIR DISTRICTS VACANT IF THEY 

4080
02:09:03,836 --> 02:09:06,238
GET A CALL. SO THE DOMINOES WILL

4081
02:09:06,238 --> 02:09:07,406
START TO FALL AROUND IT. 

4082
02:09:07,406 --> 02:09:09,108
-- YEAH, THAT'S MY CONCERN 

4083
02:09:09,108 --> 02:09:09,308
WITH. 

4084
02:09:09,308 --> 02:09:13,112
-- COUNCIL PRESIDENT EMERITUS 

4085
02:09:13,112 --> 02:09:13,579
MICK JAGGER. PLEASE. 

4086
02:09:13,579 --> 02:09:14,980
-- AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO

4087
02:09:14,980 --> 02:09:18,717
WELL, I'LL JUST SAY IT. SO FIRE

4088
02:09:18,717 --> 02:09:21,720
STATION 31 IS BETWEEN NORTHGATE 

4089
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:23,989
AND AURORA, AND IT'S ON 100. 

4090
02:09:23,989 --> 02:09:25,757
WELL. 

4091
02:09:25,757 --> 02:09:27,226
-- IT'S ON NORTHGATE RIGHT NEXT

4092
02:09:27,226 --> 02:09:27,493
TO LIFE. 

4093
02:09:27,493 --> 02:09:28,026
-- CHURCH, RIGHT? I KNOW 

4094
02:09:28,026 --> 02:09:32,164
EXACTLY. OKAY. SO AS YOU KNOW, 

4095
02:09:32,164 --> 02:09:33,966
FROM 85th TO 1/40, WE HAVE 

4096
02:09:33,966 --> 02:09:36,268
THAT'S THE CORRIDOR TRANSIT 

4097
02:09:36,268 --> 02:09:37,536
SPINE AND ALSO CRIMINAL 

4098
02:09:37,536 --> 02:09:38,971
CORRIDOR. AND WE HAD THE CAMERAS

4099
02:09:38,971 --> 02:09:42,141
TURNED OFF ON 105th, I THINK THE

4100
02:09:42,141 --> 02:09:43,742
CAMERAS TURNED OFF A COUPLE 

4101
02:09:43,742 --> 02:09:45,110
PLACES UP THERE. AND SO WHAT 

4102
02:09:45,110 --> 02:09:48,380
I'M HEARING FROM OUR 

4103
02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:49,515
CONSTITUENTS IS HOW WELL YOU 

4104
02:09:49,515 --> 02:09:50,682
JUST ANSWERED, AND I'M HOPING 

4105
02:09:50,682 --> 02:09:51,416
THEY'RE LISTENING. WE'LL PUT IT

4106
02:09:51,416 --> 02:09:53,886
IN OUR NEWSLETTER AS WELL. IS WE

4107
02:09:53,886 --> 02:09:55,888
NOT ONLY HAVE A LOT OF SPD CALLS

4108
02:09:55,888 --> 02:09:57,189
ON THAT CORRIDOR, BUT ALSO A LOT

4109
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:58,924
OF FIRE. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO 

4110
02:09:58,924 --> 02:10:02,528
HAVE DELAYED TIMES. SO THAT'S 

4111
02:10:02,528 --> 02:10:04,129
GOING TO BE, I GUESS WE'RE JUST

4112
02:10:04,129 --> 02:10:05,898
GOING TO HAVE TO SEE WHAT 

4113
02:10:05,898 --> 02:10:06,498
HAPPENS. 

4114
02:10:06,498 --> 02:10:08,200
-- YEAH, IT'S A VERY, VERY BUSY

4115
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:09,434
AREA OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S 

4116
02:10:09,434 --> 02:10:10,636
LAKE CITY, BITTER LAKE OR 

4117
02:10:10,636 --> 02:10:13,505
NORTHGATE. THOSE UNITS RUN A LOT

4118
02:10:13,505 --> 02:10:15,507
OF CALLS. THEY'RE BUSY. SO 

4119
02:10:15,507 --> 02:10:16,942
TAKING A UNIT OUT OF THERE, 

4120
02:10:16,942 --> 02:10:17,876
YEAH, IT MEANS THAT THEY'RE 

4121
02:10:17,876 --> 02:10:20,546
GOING TO RUN CALLS OR UNITS FROM

4122
02:10:20,546 --> 02:10:21,146
THE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS ARE 

4123
02:10:21,146 --> 02:10:23,715
GOING TO COME IN TO HELP. BUT 

4124
02:10:23,715 --> 02:10:25,751
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YEAH, IT'S 

4125
02:10:25,751 --> 02:10:27,019
GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT 

4126
02:10:27,019 --> 02:10:28,487
LONGER. THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. 

4127
02:10:28,487 --> 02:10:30,222
-- AND JUST SO WE CAN JUST 

4128
02:10:30,222 --> 02:10:31,590
SITUATE IT FOR PEOPLE CAN 

4129
02:10:31,590 --> 02:10:34,526
VISUALIZE. THEY ALSO HAVE TO SPD

4130
02:10:34,526 --> 02:10:36,395
AND SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE

4131
02:10:36,395 --> 02:10:38,230
TO GO ACROSS I-5, WHICH I 

4132
02:10:38,230 --> 02:10:40,399
BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY FOUR MAJOR

4133
02:10:40,399 --> 02:10:42,734
ARTERIALS TO GET OVER I-5, WHICH

4134
02:10:42,734 --> 02:10:44,903
IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE AS WELL. 

4135
02:10:44,903 --> 02:10:45,938
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, 

4136
02:10:45,938 --> 02:10:46,171
CHAIR. 

4137
02:10:46,171 --> 02:10:47,773
-- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

4138
02:10:47,773 --> 02:10:49,908
EMERITUS COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, 

4139
02:10:49,908 --> 02:10:51,910
FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER RINCK 

4140
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:54,213
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA AND COUNCIL 

4141
02:10:54,213 --> 02:10:54,513
PRESIDENT. 

4142
02:10:54,513 --> 02:10:56,181
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, 

4143
02:10:56,181 --> 02:11:00,319
CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE. YOU YOU 

4144
02:11:00,319 --> 02:11:03,021
ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS 

4145
02:11:03,021 --> 02:11:03,655
FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS HAD ABOUT 

4146
02:11:03,655 --> 02:11:06,058
THE IMPACTS. AND I HEARD YOU 

4147
02:11:06,058 --> 02:11:08,293
VERY LOUD AND CLEAR. LESS 

4148
02:11:08,293 --> 02:11:11,396
FIREFIGHTERS ON DUTY EVERY DAY. 

4149
02:11:11,396 --> 02:11:14,099
THAT GIVES ME PAUSE AND CONCERN,

4150
02:11:14,099 --> 02:11:16,401
AND I KNOW IT WILL TO TO OUR OUR

4151
02:11:16,401 --> 02:11:17,903
CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THE CITY. SO

4152
02:11:17,903 --> 02:11:19,938
LET ME SAY SOMETHING I SAID WHEN

4153
02:11:19,938 --> 02:11:22,274
WHEN POLICE WAS HERE EARLIER 

4154
02:11:22,274 --> 02:11:28,981
TODAY FIRE POLICE AND 911 ARE 

4155
02:11:28,981 --> 02:11:30,215
CHARTERED RESPONSIBILITIES OF 

4156
02:11:30,215 --> 02:11:31,950
THE CITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO 

4157
02:11:31,950 --> 02:11:37,489
HEAR ACTUALLY FROM ALY, IF I 

4158
02:11:37,489 --> 02:11:44,563
MAY. WHAT WAS THE CALCULATION 

4159
02:11:44,563 --> 02:11:46,098
AND MAKING CUTS TO HERE, KNOWING

4160
02:11:46,098 --> 02:11:47,499
WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE 

4161
02:11:47,499 --> 02:11:51,737
CHIEF, WHICH I'M NOT SURPRISED.

4162
02:11:51,737 --> 02:11:54,373
WHAT WAS THE THE RATIONALE FOR 

4163
02:11:54,373 --> 02:11:58,543
CUTTING FIRE IN THIS WAY? 

4164
02:11:58,543 --> 02:12:00,312
-- PLEASE, DIRECTOR. 

4165
02:12:00,312 --> 02:12:01,513
-- THANK YOU. 

4166
02:12:01,513 --> 02:12:03,048
-- THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, WE I 

4167
02:12:03,048 --> 02:12:06,418
WILL SAY THIS WAS ONE OF THE 

4168
02:12:06,418 --> 02:12:08,020
HARDEST DECISIONS. AND I'M 

4169
02:12:08,020 --> 02:12:08,687
GOING TO KEEP SAYING SOME OF THE

4170
02:12:08,687 --> 02:12:10,555
SAME THINGS. WE ARE FACING A 

4171
02:12:10,555 --> 02:12:11,423
SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT, AND WE HAVE

4172
02:12:11,423 --> 02:12:13,692
TO WORK WITHIN OUR RESOURCES. I 

4173
02:12:13,692 --> 02:12:15,460
HEAR YOU ON THE CHARTER 

4174
02:12:15,460 --> 02:12:17,596
RESPONSIBILITY, THE THE PERCENT 

4175
02:12:17,596 --> 02:12:18,730
OF THE GENERAL FUND THAT GOES TO

4176
02:12:18,730 --> 02:12:20,666
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THE 

4177
02:12:20,666 --> 02:12:22,067
SECOND HIGHEST INVESTMENT THAT 

4178
02:12:22,067 --> 02:12:24,369
WE HAVE IN THE CITY, AND THERE 

4179
02:12:24,369 --> 02:12:27,005
ARE CHALLENGES. I WILL JUST YOU 

4180
02:12:27,005 --> 02:12:27,939
KNOW, I RESPECTFULLY FOR THE 

4181
02:12:27,939 --> 02:12:30,175
CHIEF, THEY ARE MANAGING DAILY 

4182
02:12:30,175 --> 02:12:33,178
OUTAGES, UNIT OUTAGES TODAY DUE 

4183
02:12:33,178 --> 02:12:34,980
TO STAFFING CHALLENGES. WE 

4184
02:12:34,980 --> 02:12:36,715
STARTED AT A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER 

4185
02:12:36,715 --> 02:12:38,483
WHEN WE WERE FACING A MORE 

4186
02:12:38,483 --> 02:12:40,652
DIFFICULT SITUATION PRIOR TO THE

4187
02:12:40,652 --> 02:12:41,286
REVENUE FORECAST AND OTHER 

4188
02:12:41,286 --> 02:12:42,788
THINGS, WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO

4189
02:12:42,788 --> 02:12:45,691
GET THIS DOWN AS LOW AS 

4190
02:12:45,691 --> 02:12:47,626
POSSIBLE, AND THERE HAVE BEEN 

4191
02:12:47,626 --> 02:12:49,094
YEARS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN 

4192
02:12:49,094 --> 02:12:51,229
SIGNIFICANT UNIT OUTAGES THAT 

4193
02:12:51,229 --> 02:12:51,997
HAVE FLUCTUATED OVER THE YEARS. 

4194
02:12:51,997 --> 02:12:54,566
SO IT IS A CHALLENGE. WE ARE 

4195
02:12:54,566 --> 02:12:56,101
VERY CONFIDENT IN THE ABILITY 

4196
02:12:56,101 --> 02:12:58,003
FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO 

4197
02:12:58,003 --> 02:12:59,338
MANAGE TO THIS REDUCTION, AND IT

4198
02:12:59,338 --> 02:13:00,672
IS AN AREA WE WILL CONTINUE TO 

4199
02:13:00,672 --> 02:13:02,607
BE WORKING ON. 

4200
02:13:02,607 --> 02:13:04,109
-- THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. 

4201
02:13:04,109 --> 02:13:05,344
-- THANK YOU, ALI, AND LET ME 

4202
02:13:05,344 --> 02:13:06,645
JUST SAY, FOR THE RECORD, TOO, 

4203
02:13:06,645 --> 02:13:07,946
BECAUSE, ALI, YOU AND I HAVE 

4204
02:13:07,946 --> 02:13:10,549
WORKED WITH EACH OTHER FOR MANY 

4205
02:13:10,549 --> 02:13:13,251
YEARS AND I, I VERY MUCH RESPECT

4206
02:13:13,251 --> 02:13:14,987
YOU. SO I KNOW YOU'RE IN YOUR 

4207
02:13:14,987 --> 02:13:18,156
ROLE TODAY, NOT JUST AS DIRECTOR

4208
02:13:18,156 --> 02:13:19,124
OF THE BUDGET OFFICE, BUT ALSO 

4209
02:13:19,124 --> 02:13:20,659
AS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 

4210
02:13:20,659 --> 02:13:22,060
REPRESENTATIVE. SO YOU'RE GOING

4211
02:13:22,060 --> 02:13:25,030
TO HEAR SOME THINGS. AND I JUST 

4212
02:13:25,030 --> 02:13:26,832
WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD 

4213
02:13:26,832 --> 02:13:28,734
THAT WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER. I 

4214
02:13:28,734 --> 02:13:29,768
VERY MUCH RESPECT YOU, AND I 

4215
02:13:29,768 --> 02:13:32,537
HAVE TO ASK THESE HARD 

4216
02:13:32,537 --> 02:13:35,006
QUESTIONS, CHIEF. WHAT HOW DOES 

4217
02:13:35,006 --> 02:13:37,642
HOW DOES OUR CURRENT. BECAUSE WE

4218
02:13:37,642 --> 02:13:41,380
THIS CAME UP ALSO IN THE CONTEXT

4219
02:13:41,380 --> 02:13:44,216
OF OF 911 CALLERS AND AND POLICE

4220
02:13:44,216 --> 02:13:47,652
OFFICERS. HOW DOES OUR STAFFING 

4221
02:13:47,652 --> 02:13:49,287
COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES OF OUR 

4222
02:13:49,287 --> 02:13:50,822
SIZE? IF, YOU KNOW. 

4223
02:13:50,822 --> 02:13:53,225
-- THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT 

4224
02:13:53,225 --> 02:13:55,027
QUESTION. AND WHEN I THINK 

4225
02:13:55,027 --> 02:13:57,062
THROUGH THAT QUESTION, I TRY TO 

4226
02:13:57,062 --> 02:14:00,332
LOOK FOR MORE OF AN APPLES TO 

4227
02:14:00,332 --> 02:14:02,334
APPLES COMPARISON. SO I THINK 

4228
02:14:02,334 --> 02:14:05,203
ABOUT CITIES LIKE BOSTON, LIKE 

4229
02:14:05,203 --> 02:14:07,672
WASHINGTON, D.C., LIKE DENVER 

4230
02:14:07,672 --> 02:14:09,241
AND LIKE SAN FRANCISCO. AND YOU 

4231
02:14:09,241 --> 02:14:12,711
MAY ASK, WHY? WELL, POPULATION 

4232
02:14:12,711 --> 02:14:14,880
DENSITY IS ONE. ALL OF THOSE 

4233
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:17,382
CITIES HAVE 8000 PEOPLE PER 

4234
02:14:17,382 --> 02:14:19,251
SQUARE MILE OR MORE. ALL OF 

4235
02:14:19,251 --> 02:14:24,122
THOSE CITIES HAVE A POPULATION 

4236
02:14:24,122 --> 02:14:25,190
OF CLOSE TO 7 TO 800,000. SAN 

4237
02:14:25,190 --> 02:14:27,125
FRANCISCO IS A LITTLE BIT 

4238
02:14:27,125 --> 02:14:29,928
HIGHER. ALL OF THOSE SYSTEMS 

4239
02:14:29,928 --> 02:14:32,764
FACE CHALLENGES LIKE WE FACE. 

4240
02:14:32,764 --> 02:14:33,331
THEY HAVE MOBILE INTEGRATED 

4241
02:14:33,331 --> 02:14:35,233
HEALTH PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE 

4242
02:14:35,233 --> 02:14:36,468
OVERDOSES THAT THEY'RE 

4243
02:14:36,468 --> 02:14:37,369
RESPONDING TO. THEY HAVE A 

4244
02:14:37,369 --> 02:14:40,072
NUMBER OF FIRES. THEY'RE 

4245
02:14:40,072 --> 02:14:42,174
RESPONDING TO, AND THEY ALL FACE

4246
02:14:42,174 --> 02:14:43,208
SPECIAL EVENT CHALLENGES. ALL OF

4247
02:14:43,208 --> 02:14:44,843
THOSE CITIES I JUST MENTIONED, 

4248
02:14:44,843 --> 02:14:46,211
JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE SEAHAWKS 

4249
02:14:46,211 --> 02:14:47,746
AND SOUNDERS, THE STORM, THE 

4250
02:14:47,746 --> 02:14:49,081
RAIN, AND ALL OF THOSE SPECIAL 

4251
02:14:49,081 --> 02:14:51,817
EVENTS WE DO. WE HAVE THOSE, WE 

4252
02:14:51,817 --> 02:14:53,418
STAFF THOSE. THEY HAVE THOSE, 

4253
02:14:53,418 --> 02:14:54,252
THEY STAFF THOSE. SO THEY DO A 

4254
02:14:54,252 --> 02:14:56,087
LOT OF SPECIAL EVENTS. SO BUT 

4255
02:14:56,087 --> 02:14:58,090
THAT POPULATION DENSITY WAS A 

4256
02:14:58,090 --> 02:15:03,595
BIG DEAL. SO WHEN WHEN I LOOK AT

4257
02:15:03,595 --> 02:15:04,429
THOSE CITIES AS COMPARABLES AND 

4258
02:15:04,429 --> 02:15:05,697
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT IN OUR WEST 

4259
02:15:05,697 --> 02:15:07,432
COAST. SEVEN BECAUSE OUR WEST 

4260
02:15:07,432 --> 02:15:11,336
COAST. SEVEN CITIES ARE MORE FOR

4261
02:15:11,336 --> 02:15:11,903
SALARY COMPARABLES BECAUSE 

4262
02:15:11,903 --> 02:15:13,405
THEY'RE ON THE WEST COAST AND 

4263
02:15:13,405 --> 02:15:15,273
IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO LIVE ON 

4264
02:15:15,273 --> 02:15:16,975
THE WEST COAST. BUT WHEN I LOOK 

4265
02:15:16,975 --> 02:15:19,110
AT PER CAPITA FOR THE CITIES I 

4266
02:15:19,110 --> 02:15:24,716
JUST NAMED, WE'RE ABOUT 1.3 

4267
02:15:24,716 --> 02:15:25,183
FIREFIGHTERS PER 1000 

4268
02:15:25,183 --> 02:15:27,886
POPULATION, AND THEY ARE ABOUT 

4269
02:15:27,886 --> 02:15:30,622
2.2 OR HIGHER PER CAPITA. AND SO

4270
02:15:30,622 --> 02:15:32,924
I'LL JUST BE VERY SPECIFIC. 

4271
02:15:32,924 --> 02:15:36,695
WASHINGTON, D.C., IT HAS OVER 

4272
02:15:36,695 --> 02:15:37,596
2100 FIREFIGHTERS AND THEY 

4273
02:15:37,596 --> 02:15:41,099
RESPOND OUT OF 33 FIRE STATIONS.

4274
02:15:41,099 --> 02:15:44,169
BOSTON, THEY HAVE CLOSE TO 1500 

4275
02:15:44,169 --> 02:15:44,803
FIREFIGHTERS, AND THEY RESPOND 

4276
02:15:44,803 --> 02:15:48,273
OUT OF 35 FIRE STATIONS, SAN 

4277
02:15:48,273 --> 02:15:49,941
FRANCISCO, THEY HAVE OVER 1100 

4278
02:15:49,941 --> 02:15:51,710
FIREFIGHTERS. AND THEY RESPOND 

4279
02:15:51,710 --> 02:15:53,745
OUT OF 44 STATIONS IN DENVER, 

4280
02:15:53,745 --> 02:15:55,080
WHICH IS LARGER SQUARE MILES. 

4281
02:15:55,080 --> 02:15:57,682
THEY HAVE OVER 1100 

4282
02:15:57,682 --> 02:15:58,817
FIREFIGHTERS, AND THEY RESPOND 

4283
02:15:58,817 --> 02:16:01,286
OUT OF 41 FIRE STATIONS. SO 

4284
02:16:01,286 --> 02:16:03,788
THEIR PER CAPITA PER 1000, ALL 

4285
02:16:03,788 --> 02:16:05,323
OF THOSE AGENCIES I JUST 

4286
02:16:05,323 --> 02:16:06,725
MENTIONED, THEY ALL RESPOND TO 

4287
02:16:06,725 --> 02:16:08,527
OVER 100,000 CALLS A YEAR. 

4288
02:16:08,527 --> 02:16:09,561
THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE MANY OF

4289
02:16:09,561 --> 02:16:11,129
THE CITIES IN OUR WEST COAST, 

4290
02:16:11,129 --> 02:16:12,898
SEVEN COMPARABLE CITIES, THEY 

4291
02:16:12,898 --> 02:16:13,565
DON'T COME CLOSE TO THE NUMBER 

4292
02:16:13,565 --> 02:16:16,067
OF RESPONSES WE'RE GOING ON. SO

4293
02:16:16,067 --> 02:16:18,703
WHEN YOU TRY TO LOOK FOR APPLES 

4294
02:16:18,703 --> 02:16:20,605
TO APPLES RESPONSES, I LOOK 

4295
02:16:20,605 --> 02:16:22,674
AROUND THE COUNTRY TO TRY TO 

4296
02:16:22,674 --> 02:16:25,377
FIND AGENCIES THAT ARE MORE 

4297
02:16:25,377 --> 02:16:26,711
COMPARABLE TO THE CHALLENGES 

4298
02:16:26,711 --> 02:16:28,513
THAT WE'RE FACING. AND WE'VE 

4299
02:16:28,513 --> 02:16:29,981
ACTUALLY CALLED AND TALKED TO 

4300
02:16:29,981 --> 02:16:30,882
BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES WE'RE 

4301
02:16:30,882 --> 02:16:31,550
FACING. THEY'RE GOING THROUGH 

4302
02:16:31,550 --> 02:16:33,752
THEM TOO. SO THAT'S HOW WE 

4303
02:16:33,752 --> 02:16:35,220
COMPARE TO OTHER AGENCIES AROUND

4304
02:16:35,220 --> 02:16:36,521
THE COUNTRY. WE'RE LOWER 

4305
02:16:36,521 --> 02:16:38,790
STAFFED. AND WHEN YOU THINK 

4306
02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:39,925
BACK, THIS REDUCTION WOULD TAKE 

4307
02:16:39,925 --> 02:16:42,394
US BACK TO 2008. THAT'S THE LAST

4308
02:16:42,394 --> 02:16:45,363
TIME WE WERE STAFFED AT ABOUT 

4309
02:16:45,363 --> 02:16:46,431
209 FIREFIGHTERS PER DAY. AND 

4310
02:16:46,431 --> 02:16:47,632
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE 

4311
02:16:47,632 --> 02:16:52,437
WERE RUNNING ABOUT 79000 CALLS. 

4312
02:16:52,437 --> 02:16:53,738
THEN TODAY WE RUN OVER 108,000 

4313
02:16:53,738 --> 02:16:54,639
CALLS. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS 

4314
02:16:54,639 --> 02:16:56,808
WOULD TAKE US BACK TO. 

4315
02:16:56,808 --> 02:16:58,009
-- THANK YOU, CHIEF 

4316
02:16:58,009 --> 02:17:00,011
COUNCILMEMBER. 

4317
02:17:00,011 --> 02:17:04,349
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF. 

4318
02:17:04,349 --> 02:17:08,620
SO AGAIN, THAT'S STUNNING TO ME.

4319
02:17:08,620 --> 02:17:09,254
CHARTERED RESPONSIBILITY. I'M 

4320
02:17:09,254 --> 02:17:10,755
GOING TO KEEP SAYING THAT 

4321
02:17:10,755 --> 02:17:12,123
BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS IN

4322
02:17:12,123 --> 02:17:16,194
THE BUDGET. BUT WE GOT TO STAFF.

4323
02:17:16,194 --> 02:17:16,595
ARE WE CHARTERED 

4324
02:17:16,595 --> 02:17:18,263
RESPONSIBILITIES SHOULD BE 

4325
02:17:18,263 --> 02:17:19,764
PRIORITY OF WHICH FIRE IS ONE. 

4326
02:17:19,764 --> 02:17:22,033
AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE 

4327
02:17:22,033 --> 02:17:24,302
FIRE TEAM. AND LET ME JUST SAY, 

4328
02:17:24,302 --> 02:17:26,671
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ KNOWS THIS.

4329
02:17:26,671 --> 02:17:28,440
DURING COVID, IT WAS OUR 

4330
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:31,443
FIREFIGHTERS WHO STOOD UP OUR. 

4331
02:17:31,443 --> 02:17:33,745
FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR TEST SITES

4332
02:17:33,745 --> 02:17:37,182
AND GAVE VACCINATIONS, AND THEY 

4333
02:17:37,182 --> 02:17:41,553
WORKED MANY LONG HOURS. AND SO I

4334
02:17:41,553 --> 02:17:44,990
SHOUT OUT TO YOUR TEAM CHIEF, 

4335
02:17:44,990 --> 02:17:47,392
AND YOU WERE HERE. SO REALLY 

4336
02:17:47,392 --> 02:17:49,427
RESPECT. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH

4337
02:17:49,427 --> 02:17:50,729
YOU SINCE BEFORE THEN. AND AND I

4338
02:17:50,729 --> 02:17:52,597
SO RESPECT YOU AND APPRECIATE 

4339
02:17:52,597 --> 02:17:53,832
YOU AND APPRECIATE THAT YOU 

4340
02:17:53,832 --> 02:17:55,867
YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL THIS TIME 

4341
02:17:55,867 --> 02:17:58,470
WITH US AT THE CITY. AND I SAY 

4342
02:17:58,470 --> 02:18:00,805
THAT TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE A LOT 

4343
02:18:00,805 --> 02:18:05,110
OF EXPERIENCE. AND THIS WAS NOT 

4344
02:18:05,110 --> 02:18:09,814
YOUR FIRST ROLE AS, AS CHIEF 

4345
02:18:09,814 --> 02:18:11,716
HERE, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, 

4346
02:18:11,716 --> 02:18:14,085
CHIEF. SO WE RECENTLY HAD THIS 

4347
02:18:14,085 --> 02:18:16,921
THIS UNFORTUNATE FIRE AND SOME 

4348
02:18:16,921 --> 02:18:19,791
OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS WERE 

4349
02:18:19,791 --> 02:18:22,827
INJURED. I'M GLAD THERE WERE NO,

4350
02:18:22,827 --> 02:18:24,029
NO, NO FATALITIES, BUT THERE 

4351
02:18:24,029 --> 02:18:26,831
WERE, I DON'T KNOW, 7 OR 8 

4352
02:18:26,831 --> 02:18:28,967
INJURIES. I CAN'T REMEMBER 

4353
02:18:28,967 --> 02:18:30,068
WHICH WAS REPORTED EARLIER IN 

4354
02:18:30,068 --> 02:18:32,137
THE WEEK. HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT 

4355
02:18:32,137 --> 02:18:35,974
THAT TYPE OF FIRE INCIDENT? 

4356
02:18:35,974 --> 02:18:36,241
-- SURE. 

4357
02:18:36,241 --> 02:18:37,609
-- AND FIRST, I WANT TO 

4358
02:18:37,609 --> 02:18:40,578
ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK ALL OF YOU

4359
02:18:40,578 --> 02:18:42,180
WHO MADE COMMENTS, RECOGNIZING 

4360
02:18:42,180 --> 02:18:42,814
AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE INJURIES. 

4361
02:18:42,814 --> 02:18:45,250
THERE WERE EIGHT FIREFIGHTERS 

4362
02:18:45,250 --> 02:18:47,419
INJURED, AND THERE WERE THREE 

4363
02:18:47,419 --> 02:18:49,354
THAT WERE TRANSPORTED TO 

4364
02:18:49,354 --> 02:18:50,755
HARBORVIEW BY OUR PARAMEDICS. 

4365
02:18:50,755 --> 02:18:52,090
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THERE

4366
02:18:52,090 --> 02:18:53,558
WAS A GENTLEMAN IN THAT 

4367
02:18:53,558 --> 02:18:54,993
RESIDENCE, AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS 

4368
02:18:54,993 --> 02:18:56,261
PULLED OUT, AND HE'S STILL IN 

4369
02:18:56,261 --> 02:18:57,696
THE HOSPITAL AND HE'S DOING 

4370
02:18:57,696 --> 02:18:58,363
OKAY. HE'S GETTING BETTER. I 

4371
02:18:58,363 --> 02:19:00,532
DON'T I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DOING

4372
02:19:00,532 --> 02:19:02,767
OKAY. SO HOW DOES HOW WOULD THIS

4373
02:19:02,767 --> 02:19:05,804
HAVE IMPACTED THAT? SO THERE 

4374
02:19:05,804 --> 02:19:06,905
COULD HAVE BEEN A CHANCE THAT WE

4375
02:19:06,905 --> 02:19:10,075
WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN UNITS ON 

4376
02:19:10,075 --> 02:19:12,444
SCENE AS RAPIDLY AS WE SHOULD. 

4377
02:19:12,444 --> 02:19:14,412
AND I GUESS I SHOULD EXPLAIN WHY

4378
02:19:14,412 --> 02:19:16,181
THAT IS IMPORTANT. SO THE WAY 

4379
02:19:16,181 --> 02:19:17,882
OUR MOTTO IS BUILT, IT'S BUILT 

4380
02:19:17,882 --> 02:19:20,819
OFF OF A TIME TEMPERATURE CURVE 

4381
02:19:20,819 --> 02:19:23,421
ON THE RAPID EXPANSION OF FIRE. 

4382
02:19:23,421 --> 02:19:27,492
SO OUR NFPA 1710 SETS STANDARDS 

4383
02:19:27,492 --> 02:19:31,663
ON WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION THAT 

4384
02:19:31,663 --> 02:19:33,698
A FIRE ENGINE AND A FULL 

4385
02:19:33,698 --> 02:19:35,166
RESPONSE SHOULD BE ON SCENE TO 

4386
02:19:35,166 --> 02:19:37,235
SLOW DOWN THE RAPID SPREAD OF 

4387
02:19:37,235 --> 02:19:38,803
FIRE. AND THAT'S BASICALLY 

4388
02:19:38,803 --> 02:19:39,971
KEEPING A ONE ROOM FIRE, A ONE 

4389
02:19:39,971 --> 02:19:43,641
ROOM FIRE, AND NOT LETTING IT 

4390
02:19:43,641 --> 02:19:44,275
EXPAND THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE 

4391
02:19:44,275 --> 02:19:46,411
OR TO OTHER STRUCTURES. AND IN 

4392
02:19:46,411 --> 02:19:47,779
ORDER TO DO ALL OF THE OTHER 

4393
02:19:47,779 --> 02:19:49,914
THINGS YOU NEED TO DO, YOU NEED 

4394
02:19:49,914 --> 02:19:50,915
TO HAVE A CREW ATTACK THE FIRE. 

4395
02:19:50,915 --> 02:19:52,050
YOU NEED TO HAVE A BACKUP LINE. 

4396
02:19:52,050 --> 02:19:53,351
YOU NEED TO HAVE SEARCH AND 

4397
02:19:53,351 --> 02:19:54,753
RESCUE. YOU NEED TO HAVE 

4398
02:19:54,753 --> 02:19:55,353
VENTILATION DONE. YOU NEED TO 

4399
02:19:55,353 --> 02:19:58,089
HAVE UTILITIES, AND YOU NEED TO 

4400
02:19:58,089 --> 02:20:00,558
HAVE A CREW OUT FOR EMERGENCIES,

4401
02:20:00,558 --> 02:20:02,360
SUCH AS THE MAY DAY THAT WE 

4402
02:20:02,360 --> 02:20:04,362
FACE, AND THAT IS BASED ON THE 

4403
02:20:04,362 --> 02:20:06,498
OSHA TWO IN, TWO OUT STANDARD 

4404
02:20:06,498 --> 02:20:09,534
THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CREW ON 

4405
02:20:09,534 --> 02:20:10,802
SCENE. SO WHAT HAPPENS EARLY ON 

4406
02:20:10,802 --> 02:20:13,204
IN THE FIRE? AND THIS IS WHERE 

4407
02:20:13,204 --> 02:20:14,239
WHEN INJURIES HAPPEN OR LINE OF 

4408
02:20:14,239 --> 02:20:16,007
DUTY DEATHS HAPPEN, WHEN 

4409
02:20:16,007 --> 02:20:17,041
FIREFIGHTERS ARE FIGHTING A 

4410
02:20:17,041 --> 02:20:19,344
FIRE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IT

4411
02:20:19,344 --> 02:20:21,279
GENERALLY HAPPENS IN THE FIRST 

4412
02:20:21,279 --> 02:20:23,314
SEVERAL MINUTES, MAYBE THE FIRST

4413
02:20:23,314 --> 02:20:24,716
4 TO 10 MINUTES, BECAUSE THE 

4414
02:20:24,716 --> 02:20:26,151
FIRST CREW GETS ON SCENE. THEY 

4415
02:20:26,151 --> 02:20:28,219
KNOW A RESCUE NEEDS TO BE DONE, 

4416
02:20:28,219 --> 02:20:30,955
SO THEY GO DO IT. BUT THEY MAY 

4417
02:20:30,955 --> 02:20:33,658
NOT HAVE THE APPROPRIATE 

4418
02:20:33,658 --> 02:20:34,526
RESOURCES OUTSIDE TO HELP THEM 

4419
02:20:34,526 --> 02:20:36,494
IF THEY GO DOWN. SO IF IT TAKES 

4420
02:20:36,494 --> 02:20:38,530
OUR UNITS LONGER TO GET THERE, 

4421
02:20:38,530 --> 02:20:39,864
AND MAYBE IT'S NOT THE FIRST 

4422
02:20:39,864 --> 02:20:42,834
UNIT, MAYBE THE FIRST UNIT GETS 

4423
02:20:42,834 --> 02:20:44,269
THERE FAST, BUT THEY FEEL LIKE 

4424
02:20:44,269 --> 02:20:45,203
THEY NEED TO GO IN AND THEY 

4425
02:20:45,203 --> 02:20:46,738
DON'T HAVE THE CREW OUTSIDE TO 

4426
02:20:46,738 --> 02:20:49,274
HELP THEM. THEN THEY GO IN, 

4427
02:20:49,274 --> 02:20:50,475
SOMETHING GOES SIDEWAYS, AND 

4428
02:20:50,475 --> 02:20:51,109
THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A 

4429
02:20:51,109 --> 02:20:54,279
DELAY. LUCKILY, ON THE MAY DAY 

4430
02:20:54,279 --> 02:20:55,747
THAT WAS CALLED BECAUSE THAT'S 

4431
02:20:55,747 --> 02:20:56,981
WHAT WE TRAINED FOR IS A MAYDAY.

4432
02:20:56,981 --> 02:20:59,284
SO THE OFFICER CALLED THE 

4433
02:20:59,284 --> 02:21:00,285
MAYDAY. EVERYTHING WORKED LIKE 

4434
02:21:00,285 --> 02:21:02,120
IT SHOULD HAVE. AND BASICALLY 

4435
02:21:02,120 --> 02:21:03,087
WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY WERE 

4436
02:21:03,087 --> 02:21:04,889
ATTACKING THE FIRE. THEY WERE 

4437
02:21:04,889 --> 02:21:06,257
UNDER A CARPORT. IT'S 240 IN 

4438
02:21:06,257 --> 02:21:07,892
THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, FIRES 

4439
02:21:07,892 --> 02:21:09,828
GOING EVERYWHERE. AND THE 

4440
02:21:09,828 --> 02:21:11,830
CARPORT WAS BURNING AND IT 

4441
02:21:11,830 --> 02:21:14,165
COLLAPSED ON TOP OF THE 

4442
02:21:14,165 --> 02:21:15,166
FIREFIGHTERS. SO SOME 

4443
02:21:15,166 --> 02:21:16,634
FIREFIGHTERS WERE GOING BY 

4444
02:21:16,634 --> 02:21:17,869
CARRYING A LADDER. IT CAME DOWN 

4445
02:21:17,869 --> 02:21:20,305
ON THEM. SOME FIREFIGHTERS HAD 

4446
02:21:20,305 --> 02:21:21,005
HOSE LINES GOING IN THE 

4447
02:21:21,005 --> 02:21:22,140
STRUCTURE. IT CAME DOWN ON THEM 

4448
02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:23,575
BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG 

4449
02:21:23,575 --> 02:21:25,009
NUMBER. BUT THEY WERE ALL GOING 

4450
02:21:25,009 --> 02:21:28,179
TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS. WHEN THE

4451
02:21:28,179 --> 02:21:29,581
CARPORT COLLAPSED. THAT'S WHAT 

4452
02:21:29,581 --> 02:21:31,115
YOU JUST CAN'T PREDICT. SO IT 

4453
02:21:31,115 --> 02:21:33,585
COULD HAVE CAUSED EITHER THE 

4454
02:21:33,585 --> 02:21:34,719
FIRST ARRIVING COMPANY LONGER, 

4455
02:21:34,719 --> 02:21:36,821
TAKING LONGER TO GET THERE, OR 

4456
02:21:36,821 --> 02:21:38,323
THE SECOND ARRIVING COMPANY, 

4457
02:21:38,323 --> 02:21:39,791
WHICH IS VERY CRITICAL FOR US 

4458
02:21:39,791 --> 02:21:41,059
FOR TWO AND TWO OUT. AND, YOU 

4459
02:21:41,059 --> 02:21:42,894
KNOW, IT'S HARD TO TELL A 

4460
02:21:42,894 --> 02:21:44,529
PERSON, A FIREFIGHTER WHO'S 

4461
02:21:44,529 --> 02:21:46,531
TRAINED FOR THIS, THAT, HEY, WE 

4462
02:21:46,531 --> 02:21:48,366
THINK THERE'S A PERSON INSIDE. 

4463
02:21:48,366 --> 02:21:49,501
I KNOW I CAN'T GO IN AND THE 

4464
02:21:49,501 --> 02:21:52,270
SECOND UNIT'S NOT HERE. WELL, 

4465
02:21:52,270 --> 02:21:52,871
OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE PROBABLY 

4466
02:21:52,871 --> 02:21:54,172
GOING TO GO IN AND TRY TO SAVE A

4467
02:21:54,172 --> 02:21:55,540
LIFE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO. SO 

4468
02:21:55,540 --> 02:21:56,908
IT COULD TAKE US LONGER TO GET 

4469
02:21:56,908 --> 02:21:57,809
THERE. 

4470
02:21:57,809 --> 02:21:59,944
-- AND IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT. 

4471
02:21:59,944 --> 02:22:01,346
SORRY. YEAH. AND IT HAS A HUGE 

4472
02:22:01,346 --> 02:22:02,947
IMPACT ON THE OFFICERS THAT ARE 

4473
02:22:02,947 --> 02:22:06,484
THERE. IF THEY DON'T GET THAT 

4474
02:22:06,484 --> 02:22:07,852
BACKUP CHAIR. I JUST HAVE ONE 

4475
02:22:07,852 --> 02:22:10,088
LAST QUESTION, IF I MAY, BECAUSE

4476
02:22:10,088 --> 02:22:10,788
THIS IS IMPORTANT. IN THE YEARS 

4477
02:22:10,788 --> 02:22:13,458
I'VE KNOWN YOU, CHIEF, YOU'VE 

4478
02:22:13,458 --> 02:22:15,894
TALKED A LOT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH

4479
02:22:15,894 --> 02:22:16,928
IMPACTS OF THE JOB ON YOUR CREW.

4480
02:22:16,928 --> 02:22:18,963
I KNOW THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT 

4481
02:22:18,963 --> 02:22:24,335
TO YOU, AND SO I WANT TO KNOW 

4482
02:22:24,335 --> 02:22:29,340
WHAT ABOUT HOW WILL THIS IMPACT 

4483
02:22:29,340 --> 02:22:30,541
YOUR CURRENT FOLKS? YOU KNOW, 

4484
02:22:30,541 --> 02:22:32,710
HAVING THE LESS FOLKS AND THEN 

4485
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:35,380
THE ABILITY FOR LESS OF AN 

4486
02:22:35,380 --> 02:22:37,348
ABILITY TO GET CURRENT RESPONSE 

4487
02:22:37,348 --> 02:22:38,616
TIMES, FOR INSTANCE, AND IT 

4488
02:22:38,616 --> 02:22:41,019
SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD PUT MORE 

4489
02:22:41,019 --> 02:22:43,721
PRESSURE ON YOUR CURRENT TEAM. 

4490
02:22:43,721 --> 02:22:45,256
WHAT IMPACTS IS THAT GOING TO 

4491
02:22:45,256 --> 02:22:47,425
HAVE FOR THIS MENTAL HEALTH 

4492
02:22:47,425 --> 02:22:48,626
CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING,

4493
02:22:48,626 --> 02:22:51,195
WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN TRICKY 

4494
02:22:51,195 --> 02:22:51,996
BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD TO TEACH 

4495
02:22:51,996 --> 02:22:54,198
FOLKS TO TAKE CARE OF 

4496
02:22:54,198 --> 02:22:57,936
THEMSELVES. IT'S BEEN A POINT 

4497
02:22:57,936 --> 02:22:59,504
THAT YOU'VE MADE, AND THEN ALSO

4498
02:22:59,504 --> 02:23:03,107
JUST MORALE IN GENERAL 

4499
02:23:03,107 --> 02:23:04,842
-- YEAH, THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 

4500
02:23:04,842 --> 02:23:06,110
HAS BEEN A BIG ADD TO THE 

4501
02:23:06,110 --> 02:23:07,412
DEPARTMENT. AND THANK YOU, 

4502
02:23:07,412 --> 02:23:09,781
COUNSEL WHO GAVE US FUNDING 

4503
02:23:09,781 --> 02:23:10,815
SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR OUR 

4504
02:23:10,815 --> 02:23:12,216
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COORDINATOR. 

4505
02:23:12,216 --> 02:23:13,484
AND OUR PROGRAM HAS REALLY TAKEN

4506
02:23:13,484 --> 02:23:15,553
OFF SINCE THEN. EVEN AFTER THE 

4507
02:23:15,553 --> 02:23:17,655
FIRE THE OTHER NIGHT, OUR 

4508
02:23:17,655 --> 02:23:18,222
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND PEER 

4509
02:23:18,222 --> 02:23:20,091
SUPPORT TEAM WENT INTO ACTION 

4510
02:23:20,091 --> 02:23:21,392
BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE 

4511
02:23:21,392 --> 02:23:23,428
OUR FIREFIGHTERS WAS ALL RIGHT. 

4512
02:23:23,428 --> 02:23:24,996
BUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WELL, 

4513
02:23:24,996 --> 02:23:26,698
THIS MEANS SETS AND REPS. SO IF 

4514
02:23:26,698 --> 02:23:29,334
WE HAVE MORE FIREFIGHTERS, 

4515
02:23:29,334 --> 02:23:30,368
THEORETICALLY IN THE SYSTEM, 

4516
02:23:30,368 --> 02:23:31,469
THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S A 

4517
02:23:31,469 --> 02:23:33,171
POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO GO ON LESS

4518
02:23:33,171 --> 02:23:36,774
OF THOSE TRAUMATIC CALLS. AND 

4519
02:23:36,774 --> 02:23:38,943
SECONDARY TRAUMA IS A REAL 

4520
02:23:38,943 --> 02:23:40,345
THING. IT IMPACTS OUR FOLKS AND 

4521
02:23:40,345 --> 02:23:42,013
OUR STATION. IN BELLTOWN, FOR 

4522
02:23:42,013 --> 02:23:44,015
EXAMPLE, WERE EIGHT, FOUR IS ONE

4523
02:23:44,015 --> 02:23:46,250
OF OUR PEAK TIME. A CARS ARE OR 

4524
02:23:46,250 --> 02:23:49,487
STAGE 25 ON CAPITOL HILL. 

4525
02:23:49,487 --> 02:23:50,488
THEY'RE SEEING A LOT OF TRAUMA,

4526
02:23:50,488 --> 02:23:52,690
BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE 

4527
02:23:52,690 --> 02:23:54,092
DISTRIBUTED RIGHT NOW WITH THE 

4528
02:23:54,092 --> 02:23:55,693
EXTRA BODIES IN THERE. AND THIS 

4529
02:23:55,693 --> 02:23:56,995
IS HAPPENING A LOT. WE DON'T 

4530
02:23:56,995 --> 02:23:58,196
LEAVE OUR FOLKS ON AID CARS MORE

4531
02:23:58,196 --> 02:24:00,698
THAN THREE MONTHS BECAUSE 

4532
02:24:00,698 --> 02:24:02,634
THEY'RE SEEING SO MUCH THAT WE 

4533
02:24:02,634 --> 02:24:04,002
ALREADY ARE ROTATING THEM. SO 

4534
02:24:04,002 --> 02:24:07,372
WHAT THIS MEANS IS THERE WILL BE

4535
02:24:07,372 --> 02:24:09,107
LESS AID CARS FOR THEM TO ROTATE

4536
02:24:09,107 --> 02:24:10,541
TO, BECAUSE THOSE ENGINES WILL 

4537
02:24:10,541 --> 02:24:12,377
BE GOING ON THOSE CALLS NOW. SO,

4538
02:24:12,377 --> 02:24:16,647
YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE PD IS GOING 

4539
02:24:16,647 --> 02:24:17,915
ON ALL OF THOSE SCENES OF 

4540
02:24:17,915 --> 02:24:18,549
VIOLENCE CALLS, WE'RE RIGHT 

4541
02:24:18,549 --> 02:24:20,785
THERE WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, THE 

4542
02:24:20,785 --> 02:24:22,920
TRAUMATIC VEHICLE ACCIDENTS. AND

4543
02:24:22,920 --> 02:24:24,355
WE'RE ALSO SEEING THE CARDIAC, 

4544
02:24:24,355 --> 02:24:25,723
THE STROKES, THE SUICIDES AND 

4545
02:24:25,723 --> 02:24:27,291
ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND IT'S 

4546
02:24:27,291 --> 02:24:29,093
HARD. AND OUR TEAM WORKS 

4547
02:24:29,093 --> 02:24:30,928
EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SURE OUR 

4548
02:24:30,928 --> 02:24:31,929
FIREFIGHTERS HAVE WHAT THEY 

4549
02:24:31,929 --> 02:24:32,864
NEED. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST 

4550
02:24:32,864 --> 02:24:36,634
IT'S JUST NUMBERS. IT'S LESS 

4551
02:24:36,634 --> 02:24:38,369
PEOPLE, MEANING MORE PEOPLE WILL

4552
02:24:38,369 --> 02:24:40,038
SEE MORE OF THE TRAUMA AND THERE

4553
02:24:40,038 --> 02:24:42,040
WILL BE MORE SECONDARY TRAUMA. 

4554
02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:43,775
-- THANK YOU. CHIEF. 

4555
02:24:43,775 --> 02:24:45,943
-- THANK YOU. 

4556
02:24:45,943 --> 02:24:46,210
-- CHAIR. 

4557
02:24:46,210 --> 02:24:47,445
-- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR RIVERA.

4558
02:24:47,445 --> 02:24:50,982
WE HAVE FIVE MORE FOLKS. SO IF 

4559
02:24:50,982 --> 02:24:52,016
EVERYONE SPEAKS FOR TEN MINUTES,

4560
02:24:52,016 --> 02:24:55,520
WE WILL GET OUT AT ABOUT 430 

4561
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:56,154
BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CLOSING 

4562
02:24:56,154 --> 02:24:57,455
ACTIVITIES AND THAT'S THE BACK 

4563
02:24:57,455 --> 02:24:59,490
AND FORTH. SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 

4564
02:24:59,490 --> 02:25:00,124
HALF OF AN HOUR OF EXTRA TIME. 

4565
02:25:00,124 --> 02:25:01,259
SO I'M JUST LETTING EVERYONE 

4566
02:25:01,259 --> 02:25:04,028
KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING. 

4567
02:25:04,028 --> 02:25:06,097
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK YOU'RE NEXT.

4568
02:25:06,097 --> 02:25:06,731
FOLLOWED BY SAKA, HOLLINGSWORTH 

4569
02:25:06,731 --> 02:25:07,799
AND LIN. 

4570
02:25:07,799 --> 02:25:08,733
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. 

4571
02:25:08,733 --> 02:25:09,333
I'LL TRY AND DO MY BEST. 

4572
02:25:09,333 --> 02:25:12,036
THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK HERE 

4573
02:25:12,036 --> 02:25:13,805
AND THANK YOU, CHIEF SCOGGINS, 

4574
02:25:13,805 --> 02:25:15,473
FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU, 

4575
02:25:15,473 --> 02:25:18,142
FINANCE DIRECTOR. IS IT 

4576
02:25:18,142 --> 02:25:19,310
ELLERMEIER? WONDERFUL. THANK YOU

4577
02:25:19,310 --> 02:25:21,679
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR 

4578
02:25:21,679 --> 02:25:22,313
THE PRESENTATION COLLEAGUES. I 

4579
02:25:22,313 --> 02:25:25,349
KNOW WE ALL REALIZE JUST OUR 

4580
02:25:25,349 --> 02:25:27,251
FIREFIGHTERS DO SO MUCH FOR THE 

4581
02:25:27,251 --> 02:25:28,853
CITY. AND I WANT TO ALSO VOICE 

4582
02:25:28,853 --> 02:25:30,221
THAT MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH THE 

4583
02:25:30,221 --> 02:25:32,090
NINE FIREFIGHTERS, MEMBERS OF 

4584
02:25:32,090 --> 02:25:33,691
SFD THAT WERE INJURED IN THE 

4585
02:25:33,691 --> 02:25:36,461
FIRE EARLIER THIS WEEK. AND I'LL

4586
02:25:36,461 --> 02:25:37,462
TAKE A PERSONAL POINT OF 

4587
02:25:37,462 --> 02:25:38,763
PRIVILEGE JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT.

4588
02:25:38,763 --> 02:25:41,666
I WAS ALSO REMINDED MYSELF HOW 

4589
02:25:41,666 --> 02:25:42,300
IMPORTANT OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE 

4590
02:25:42,300 --> 02:25:43,367
THIS WEEK. JUST SEEING SOME 

4591
02:25:43,367 --> 02:25:45,303
MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM AND ACTION 

4592
02:25:45,303 --> 02:25:45,937
CHIEF SCOGGINS, AND I THINK THEY

4593
02:25:45,937 --> 02:25:50,007
SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED. AND I'LL 

4594
02:25:50,007 --> 02:25:51,743
JUST NOTE THIS VERY QUICK STORY 

4595
02:25:51,743 --> 02:25:55,480
THAT I WAS RIDING MY BIKE 

4596
02:25:55,480 --> 02:25:57,915
THROUGH DOWNTOWN ON THE FOURTH 

4597
02:25:57,915 --> 02:25:58,916
AVENUE BIKE LANES, CROSSING 

4598
02:25:58,916 --> 02:26:00,318
FOURTH AND PINE, WHERE A CYCLIST

4599
02:26:00,318 --> 02:26:04,355
HAD JUST BEEN HIT. AND IT WAS 

4600
02:26:04,355 --> 02:26:04,989
ACTUALLY AN OFF DUTY FIREFIGHTER

4601
02:26:04,989 --> 02:26:07,992
WITH SFD, WHO WAS HELPING THE 

4602
02:26:07,992 --> 02:26:09,260
GENTLEMAN WHO WAS STILL IN THE 

4603
02:26:09,260 --> 02:26:11,229
ROAD HELPED GET HIM OUT OF THE 

4604
02:26:11,229 --> 02:26:13,197
STREET, WAS ABLE TO STOP AND 

4605
02:26:13,197 --> 02:26:14,866
HELP WHERE I COULD, AND STAYED 

4606
02:26:14,866 --> 02:26:17,802
WITH THIS GENTLEMAN UNTIL AN AID

4607
02:26:17,802 --> 02:26:20,438
CAR CAME TO GET THEM SUPPORT. 

4608
02:26:20,438 --> 02:26:21,672
AND AGAIN, IT WAS A REMINDER OF 

4609
02:26:21,672 --> 02:26:24,041
JUST HOW MUCH OUR FIRE 

4610
02:26:24,041 --> 02:26:25,510
DEPARTMENT IS DOING ACROSS OUR 

4611
02:26:25,510 --> 02:26:28,146
CITY. I WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS 

4612
02:26:28,146 --> 02:26:28,846
HOW MUCH I APPRECIATED THE 

4613
02:26:28,846 --> 02:26:30,214
CANDOR, APPROACH, AND CARE THAT 

4614
02:26:30,214 --> 02:26:31,482
THE FOLKS WITH THE FIRE 

4615
02:26:31,482 --> 02:26:32,517
DEPARTMENT WERE SHOWING. THIS 

4616
02:26:32,517 --> 02:26:33,718
GENTLEMAN WHO HAD JUST BEEN 

4617
02:26:33,718 --> 02:26:34,585
STRUCK BY A VEHICLE THAT TURNED 

4618
02:26:34,585 --> 02:26:35,720
INTO THE BIKE LANE. SO I HAD TO 

4619
02:26:35,720 --> 02:26:38,623
NOTE THAT, FOR THE RECORD, AND 

4620
02:26:38,623 --> 02:26:39,323
IT REALLY GROUNDED ME IN A PLACE

4621
02:26:39,323 --> 02:26:41,058
OF AYE OF APPRECIATION FOR THE 

4622
02:26:41,058 --> 02:26:43,327
FIRE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. WITH

4623
02:26:43,327 --> 02:26:45,329
THAT IN MIND, QUESTIONS FOR 

4624
02:26:45,329 --> 02:26:48,065
TODAY AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET. I

4625
02:26:48,065 --> 02:26:48,633
UNDERSTAND, CHIEF SCOGGINS, 

4626
02:26:48,633 --> 02:26:49,700
YOU'VE UNPACKED A LITTLE BIT 

4627
02:26:49,700 --> 02:26:53,037
AROUND WHAT THESE CHANGES IN 

4628
02:26:53,037 --> 02:26:55,072
OVERTIME MEAN. DIRECTOR PENNUCCI

4629
02:26:55,072 --> 02:26:57,041
ALSO NOTED HERE A LITTLE BIT 

4630
02:26:57,041 --> 02:26:58,509
AROUND THIS. I'M HOPING WE CAN 

4631
02:26:58,509 --> 02:26:59,544
JUST UNPACK THIS A LITTLE BIT 

4632
02:26:59,544 --> 02:27:02,680
MORE, BECAUSE IT WAS NOTED THAT 

4633
02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:04,515
THERE ARE UNIT OUTAGES THAT 

4634
02:27:04,515 --> 02:27:05,583
HAPPEN TODAY, AND I'D LIKE TO 

4635
02:27:05,583 --> 02:27:07,018
UNDERSTAND WITH A LITTLE BIT 

4636
02:27:07,018 --> 02:27:08,986
MORE SPECIFICITY ABOUT WHAT THAT

4637
02:27:08,986 --> 02:27:12,023
LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THE PROPOSED 

4638
02:27:12,023 --> 02:27:14,625
BUDGET WOULD THEN CHANGE THAT 

4639
02:27:14,625 --> 02:27:15,126
LEVEL OF UNIT OUTAGES. 

4640
02:27:15,126 --> 02:27:16,093
-- SURE. 

4641
02:27:16,093 --> 02:27:17,495
-- YOU WANT YOU WANT ME TO TAKE 

4642
02:27:17,495 --> 02:27:19,597
THAT? OKAY. SO I NEED TO WALK US

4643
02:27:19,597 --> 02:27:21,165
BACK A LITTLE BIT SO WE 

4644
02:27:21,165 --> 02:27:22,967
UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 

4645
02:27:22,967 --> 02:27:24,802
THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS 

4646
02:27:24,802 --> 02:27:26,370
THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 5

4647
02:27:26,370 --> 02:27:28,673
TO 7 YEARS THAT HAS LED TO THIS.

4648
02:27:28,673 --> 02:27:31,843
NOW, MOST FOLKS MAY THINK IT WAS

4649
02:27:31,843 --> 02:27:32,610
THE VACCINE MANDATE, AND WE LOST

4650
02:27:32,610 --> 02:27:34,979
A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS THEN, BUT 

4651
02:27:34,979 --> 02:27:39,083
I'LL WALK IT BACK BEFORE THAT. 

4652
02:27:39,083 --> 02:27:41,118
WHEN PAID FOR PAID PARENTAL 

4653
02:27:41,118 --> 02:27:42,653
LEAVE AND PAID FAMILY CARE LEAVE

4654
02:27:42,653 --> 02:27:45,256
CAME INTO PLAY IN ABOUT 2017, 

4655
02:27:45,256 --> 02:27:46,824
PAID PARENTAL LEAVE FOR THE FIRE

4656
02:27:46,824 --> 02:27:49,594
DEPARTMENT IS 480 HOURS, JUST 

4657
02:27:49,594 --> 02:27:51,028
LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. AND I THINK 

4658
02:27:51,028 --> 02:27:53,264
IT'S FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE OR 

4659
02:27:53,264 --> 02:27:55,366
PAID FAMILY MEDICAL CARE. 

4660
02:27:55,366 --> 02:27:56,767
THAT'S ANOTHER 160 HOURS. AS I 

4661
02:27:56,767 --> 02:27:58,402
MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE A 

4662
02:27:58,402 --> 02:28:00,538
YOUNG DEPARTMENT GOING THROUGH 

4663
02:28:00,538 --> 02:28:03,741
TRANSITION. SO THOSE HOURS ALSO,

4664
02:28:03,741 --> 02:28:06,477
ONE FIREFIGHTER, 480 FOR PAID 

4665
02:28:06,477 --> 02:28:10,047
PARENTAL LEAVE, ANOTHER ONE FOR 

4666
02:28:10,047 --> 02:28:10,681
I THINK IT'S FAMILY MEDICAL 

4667
02:28:10,681 --> 02:28:12,083
LEAVE. IT'S 160. YOU HAVE A NEW

4668
02:28:12,083 --> 02:28:15,686
BABY. YOU CAN GET THAT OFF. SO 

4669
02:28:15,686 --> 02:28:17,655
THOSE ARE HOURS THAT DIDN'T 

4670
02:28:17,655 --> 02:28:20,191
HAPPEN BEFORE THEN. SO IF WE'RE

4671
02:28:20,191 --> 02:28:21,726
HAVING 60 TO 80 FIREFIGHTERS OFF

4672
02:28:21,726 --> 02:28:24,228
FOR THAT. SO THAT CREATES 

4673
02:28:24,228 --> 02:28:25,162
ADDITIONAL OVERTIME. SO I'LL ADD

4674
02:28:25,162 --> 02:28:27,031
THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE 

4675
02:28:27,031 --> 02:28:29,000
THING. THE VACCINE MANDATE CAME 

4676
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:29,934
INTO PLAY. WE LOST A LARGE 

4677
02:28:29,934 --> 02:28:33,104
NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS THAT ALSO

4678
02:28:33,104 --> 02:28:34,238
IMPACTED US. AT THE SAME TIME, 

4679
02:28:34,238 --> 02:28:35,873
THERE'S A RETIREMENT, A 

4680
02:28:35,873 --> 02:28:37,508
RETIREMENT ENHANCEMENT THAT 

4681
02:28:37,508 --> 02:28:39,176
HAPPENED. IT WAS 2.5% TO THE 

4682
02:28:39,176 --> 02:28:41,846
LEFT TWO SYSTEM FOR FIREFIGHTERS

4683
02:28:41,846 --> 02:28:44,181
WHO HAD WORKED SO MANY YEARS IN 

4684
02:28:44,181 --> 02:28:45,549
THE SYSTEM. SO FIREFIGHTERS WHO 

4685
02:28:45,549 --> 02:28:47,418
MAYBE WERE GOING TO WORK 30 

4686
02:28:47,418 --> 02:28:49,353
YEARS, MAYBE LEFT AT 28 YEARS 

4687
02:28:49,353 --> 02:28:51,155
BECAUSE THEY CAN ACHIEVE THE 

4688
02:28:51,155 --> 02:28:53,791
SAME. ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENED 

4689
02:28:53,791 --> 02:28:56,260
AROUND 2021, 2022. SO WHAT WE 

4690
02:28:56,260 --> 02:29:00,331
SAW WAS A LARGE EXODUS OF 

4691
02:29:00,331 --> 02:29:00,965
FIREFIGHTERS DURING THAT PERIOD 

4692
02:29:00,965 --> 02:29:04,568
OF TIME. SO WE STARTED 

4693
02:29:04,568 --> 02:29:06,904
EXPERIENCING UNIT OUTAGES ABOUT 

4694
02:29:06,904 --> 02:29:08,539
2021. AND WE REALLY STARTED 

4695
02:29:08,539 --> 02:29:11,575
TRACKING IT MONTHLY. AND SO WHEN

4696
02:29:11,575 --> 02:29:13,110
THE VACCINE MANDATE HIT AND ALL 

4697
02:29:13,110 --> 02:29:14,512
THESE OTHER THINGS THAT IT WAS 

4698
02:29:14,512 --> 02:29:16,681
LIKE A, A FOUR CAR COLLISION IN 

4699
02:29:16,681 --> 02:29:19,083
AN INTERSECTION ALL AT THE SAME 

4700
02:29:19,083 --> 02:29:21,152
TIME. SO WE HAVE A STAFFING 

4701
02:29:21,152 --> 02:29:22,953
MATRIX. SO THERE'S UNITS THAT GO

4702
02:29:22,953 --> 02:29:25,222
OUT OF SERVICE EVEN TODAY. AND 

4703
02:29:25,222 --> 02:29:26,691
LAST YEAR, THANK YOU TO THE 

4704
02:29:26,691 --> 02:29:28,326
COUNCIL. YOU APPROVED US TO HIRE

4705
02:29:28,326 --> 02:29:32,096
NOT JUST 60 FIREFIGHTERS, BUT 

4706
02:29:32,096 --> 02:29:34,365
YOU APPROVED 105 FIREFIGHTERS 

4707
02:29:34,365 --> 02:29:35,599
FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE OUR 

4708
02:29:35,599 --> 02:29:37,401
VACANCY COUNT AT THE START OF 

4709
02:29:37,401 --> 02:29:39,370
THE YEAR WAS 130 FIREFIGHTERS. 

4710
02:29:39,370 --> 02:29:41,238
SO THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO THE 

4711
02:29:41,238 --> 02:29:42,306
UNIT OUTAGES. BUT THERE'S MORE 

4712
02:29:42,306 --> 02:29:43,474
TO IT THAN THAT. WE'RE HAVING 

4713
02:29:43,474 --> 02:29:46,210
MORE SPECIAL EVENTS THAN WE EVER

4714
02:29:46,210 --> 02:29:47,044
HAD IN THE CITY. OUR 

4715
02:29:47,044 --> 02:29:48,245
FIREFIGHTERS WORK ALL OF THOSE 

4716
02:29:48,245 --> 02:29:51,916
EVENTS TOO. SO FIREFIGHTERS ARE 

4717
02:29:51,916 --> 02:29:53,451
TAXED. SO SOME DAYS GENERALLY 

4718
02:29:53,451 --> 02:29:55,152
FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, WE 

4719
02:29:55,152 --> 02:29:56,087
HAVE UNIT OUTAGES. AND THAT 

4720
02:29:56,087 --> 02:29:59,490
COULD BE ONE AID CAR, ONE AIR 

4721
02:29:59,490 --> 02:30:01,325
UNIT TO MULTIPLE UNITS. AND 

4722
02:30:01,325 --> 02:30:04,095
THAT'S TODAY WE HAVE BEEN 

4723
02:30:04,095 --> 02:30:07,098
TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

4724
02:30:07,098 --> 02:30:09,333
WE FINISHED OUR FEBRUARY CLASS 

4725
02:30:09,333 --> 02:30:10,634
AND GRADUATED 49. WE HAVE 

4726
02:30:10,634 --> 02:30:12,470
ANOTHER CLASS IN RIGHT NOW THAT 

4727
02:30:12,470 --> 02:30:14,772
STARTED WITH 64. WE STILL HAVE 

4728
02:30:14,772 --> 02:30:16,507
54 IN, SO WE'LL PROBABLY COME 

4729
02:30:16,507 --> 02:30:20,378
CLOSE TO HIRING 100. OUR VACANCY

4730
02:30:20,378 --> 02:30:22,013
COUNT RIGHT NOW IS 70 

4731
02:30:22,013 --> 02:30:24,415
FIREFIGHTERS. SO WE HAVE MADE 

4732
02:30:24,415 --> 02:30:25,416
GREAT PROGRESS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE

4733
02:30:25,416 --> 02:30:28,419
THE BULK OF OUR RETIREMENTS COME

4734
02:30:28,419 --> 02:30:30,521
BEFORE JUNE 30th. THAT'S WHEN 

4735
02:30:30,521 --> 02:30:31,522
THE BULK OF RETIREMENTS COME. SO

4736
02:30:31,522 --> 02:30:32,990
WE GOT THE NUMBER DOWN TO 70. 

4737
02:30:32,990 --> 02:30:35,726
NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE 

4738
02:30:35,726 --> 02:30:37,561
APPROVED TO HIRE 60 MORE. WE'LL

4739
02:30:37,561 --> 02:30:38,929
CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT. WE HAVE 

4740
02:30:38,929 --> 02:30:40,731
HAD THE BULK OF OUR RETIREMENTS 

4741
02:30:40,731 --> 02:30:42,166
OR RETIREMENTS WILL START TO 

4742
02:30:42,166 --> 02:30:44,935
TAIL OFF. AND SO WE ARE STARTING

4743
02:30:44,935 --> 02:30:46,404
TO CATCH UP. WE HAVE BEEN 

4744
02:30:46,404 --> 02:30:48,305
CATCHING UP FOR SEVERAL YEARS 

4745
02:30:48,305 --> 02:30:49,774
NOW, AND WE'RE STARTING TO KIND

4746
02:30:49,774 --> 02:30:51,542
OF SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF 

4747
02:30:51,542 --> 02:30:52,543
THE TUNNEL. BUT IN THE MEANTIME,

4748
02:30:52,543 --> 02:30:54,311
THE OTHER CAR IN THE COLLISION I

4749
02:30:54,311 --> 02:30:56,313
DID MENTION IS WE ADDED LETTER 

4750
02:30:56,313 --> 02:30:57,915
13. AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL

4751
02:30:57,915 --> 02:31:00,584
AND WEST SEATTLE. WE ADDED MEDIC

4752
02:31:00,584 --> 02:31:02,820
26. SO THOSE WERE MORE BODIES. 

4753
02:31:02,820 --> 02:31:04,321
WE EXPANDED OUR MOBILE 

4754
02:31:04,321 --> 02:31:05,356
INTEGRATED HEALTH WITH HEALTH. 

4755
02:31:05,356 --> 02:31:07,291
ONE THOSE ARE FIREFIGHTERS 

4756
02:31:07,291 --> 02:31:08,726
WORKING ON THAT. SO IF WE IF WE 

4757
02:31:08,726 --> 02:31:10,628
HADN'T HAD ALL THOSE THINGS 

4758
02:31:10,628 --> 02:31:13,064
HAPPEN, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE

4759
02:31:13,064 --> 02:31:13,697
HAVING THESE UNIT OUTAGES. BUT 

4760
02:31:13,697 --> 02:31:16,767
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH IT.

4761
02:31:16,767 --> 02:31:18,068
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS 

4762
02:31:18,068 --> 02:31:20,671
THAT LED UP TO IT. SO IT'S NOT 

4763
02:31:20,671 --> 02:31:22,606
JUST ONE THING WITH THOSE UNIT 

4764
02:31:22,606 --> 02:31:23,808
OUTAGES, BUT ANYTIME WE HAVE 

4765
02:31:23,808 --> 02:31:25,176
CALLED OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO HELP.

4766
02:31:25,176 --> 02:31:27,077
SO I'LL GIVE FIFA. IT'S A GREAT

4767
02:31:27,077 --> 02:31:30,514
EXAMPLE. WE HIRED BETWEEN 150 TO

4768
02:31:30,514 --> 02:31:34,518
175 FIREFIGHTERS A DAY ON THOSE 

4769
02:31:34,518 --> 02:31:36,487
FIFA GAMES. ON TOP OF OUR 220 

4770
02:31:36,487 --> 02:31:38,722
THAT WERE ALREADY ON DUTY, 

4771
02:31:38,722 --> 02:31:40,024
FIREFIGHTERS CANCELED THEIR 

4772
02:31:40,024 --> 02:31:41,525
VACATIONS AND DID EVERYTHING 

4773
02:31:41,525 --> 02:31:42,660
THEY NEEDED TO DO TO SUPPORT THE

4774
02:31:42,660 --> 02:31:44,562
CITY, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE IN 

4775
02:31:44,562 --> 02:31:45,896
THE PAST WITH COVID, OR YOU PICK

4776
02:31:45,896 --> 02:31:48,065
ANY OTHER EXPERIENCE ANYTIME WE 

4777
02:31:48,065 --> 02:31:50,034
HAVE ASKED THEM TO STEP UP AND 

4778
02:31:50,034 --> 02:31:50,701
HELP, THEY DID THAT. SO DO I SEE

4779
02:31:50,701 --> 02:31:52,036
A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE 

4780
02:31:52,036 --> 02:31:55,172
TUNNEL? I DO, IT WOULD BE GREAT 

4781
02:31:55,172 --> 02:31:56,841
IF COUNCIL GAVE US 20 MORE 

4782
02:31:56,841 --> 02:31:58,008
POSITIONS FOR 2027 FOR OUR 

4783
02:31:58,008 --> 02:31:59,310
ACADEMY, BECAUSE I THINK WE 

4784
02:31:59,310 --> 02:32:00,544
WOULD BE THERE AND YOU WOULD 

4785
02:32:00,544 --> 02:32:02,179
START TO SEE THESE UNIT OUTAGES 

4786
02:32:02,179 --> 02:32:04,248
GO AWAY. AND I THINK ALY JUST 

4787
02:32:04,248 --> 02:32:05,649
KICKED ME UNDER THE TABLE WHEN I

4788
02:32:05,649 --> 02:32:07,151
SAID THAT LAST PART 

4789
02:32:07,151 --> 02:32:09,687
-- THE 

4790
02:32:09,687 --> 02:32:10,020
-- [LAUGHTER] 

4791
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:10,287
-- MONEY. 

4792
02:32:10,287 --> 02:32:15,526
-- [LAUGHTER] 

4793
02:32:15,526 --> 02:32:16,193
-- I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT 

4794
02:32:16,193 --> 02:32:16,961
RESPONSE. CHIEF SCOGGINS IT'S 

4795
02:32:16,961 --> 02:32:18,329
HELPFUL TO JUST UNDERSTAND A BIT

4796
02:32:18,329 --> 02:32:18,963
OF THE HISTORY AND HOW WE GOT 

4797
02:32:18,963 --> 02:32:20,297
HERE, AND KIND OF THE TRAJECTORY

4798
02:32:20,297 --> 02:32:22,666
OF, OF THAT WORK JUST BY A 

4799
02:32:22,666 --> 02:32:27,171
MATTER OF IF THERE'S ANY 

4800
02:32:27,171 --> 02:32:27,805
NUMBERS TO JUST UNDERSTAND AND 

4801
02:32:27,805 --> 02:32:28,706
LIKE OUR CURRENT STATUS QUO 

4802
02:32:28,706 --> 02:32:30,241
PLACE. AND OVER THE PAST YEAR, 

4803
02:32:30,241 --> 02:32:33,310
YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN ARE OUR UNIT

4804
02:32:33,310 --> 02:32:34,445
OUTAGES, ANY KIND OF DATA POINTS

4805
02:32:34,445 --> 02:32:37,147
WE HAVE AROUND THAT AND JUST HOW

4806
02:32:37,147 --> 02:32:37,715
THAT MIGHT BE PROJECTED TO 

4807
02:32:37,715 --> 02:32:40,951
CHANGE UNDER THE PROPOSED 

4808
02:32:40,951 --> 02:32:41,218
BUDGET., 

4809
02:32:41,218 --> 02:32:43,854
-- WITH THE REDUCTION? WELL, 

4810
02:32:43,854 --> 02:32:46,924
WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF THERE WAS 

4811
02:32:46,924 --> 02:32:48,392
A WEEKEND DAY OF FRIDAY, 

4812
02:32:48,392 --> 02:32:49,894
SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, IT'S WHEN 

4813
02:32:49,894 --> 02:32:51,996
IT HAPPENS, MOST. AND IF WE WERE

4814
02:32:51,996 --> 02:32:55,432
SHORT 13 FIREFIGHTERS ON A 

4815
02:32:55,432 --> 02:32:57,167
WEEKEND DAY, IT WOULD BE RIGHT 

4816
02:32:57,167 --> 02:32:59,470
AT 209. IF WE WERE SHORT 15, 

4817
02:32:59,470 --> 02:33:01,605
THAT MEANS WE WOULD TAKE ANOTHER

4818
02:33:01,605 --> 02:33:03,474
UNIT OUT OF SERVICE. SO THAT'S 

4819
02:33:03,474 --> 02:33:05,809
HOW WE WOULD MANAGE IT. IF IT IF

4820
02:33:05,809 --> 02:33:07,845
IT DID HAPPEN. 

4821
02:33:07,845 --> 02:33:10,080
-- UNDERSTOOD. AND JUST TO 

4822
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:11,015
UNPACK THAT, MAYBE A VERY SIMPLE

4823
02:33:11,015 --> 02:33:12,583
TERM. I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE 

4824
02:33:12,583 --> 02:33:14,285
THAT ANY SINGLE FIRE STATION 

4825
02:33:14,285 --> 02:33:16,220
WILL BE UNSTAFFED ON ANY DAY IN 

4826
02:33:16,220 --> 02:33:17,755
2027? 

4827
02:33:17,755 --> 02:33:20,090
-- WELL, THE ANSWER IS YES. SO 

4828
02:33:20,090 --> 02:33:21,725
IF WE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME 

4829
02:33:21,725 --> 02:33:23,327
SINGLE HOUSE STATIONS. SO FOR 

4830
02:33:23,327 --> 02:33:24,795
EXAMPLE, ENGINE 16, IT'S A 

4831
02:33:24,795 --> 02:33:28,966
SINGLE HOUSE STATION. SO IF WE 

4832
02:33:28,966 --> 02:33:30,701
COULDN'T PUT ENGINE 16 IN AS. 

4833
02:33:30,701 --> 02:33:32,937
816 TO AT LEAST HAVE AN EMS 

4834
02:33:32,937 --> 02:33:34,738
RESPONSE OUT THE DOOR, IT COULD 

4835
02:33:34,738 --> 02:33:37,441
BE UNSTAFFED. 22 ON ROANOKE IF 

4836
02:33:37,441 --> 02:33:40,544
WE COULD NOT PUT ENGINE 22 TO A.

4837
02:33:40,544 --> 02:33:44,748
22 IT WOULD BE UNSTAFFED. OUR 

4838
02:33:44,748 --> 02:33:46,417
GOAL TODAY, WE AT LEAST TRY TO 

4839
02:33:46,417 --> 02:33:47,851
GET A UNIT IN EVERY STATION. IT 

4840
02:33:47,851 --> 02:33:50,621
MAY NOT BE THE PUMP WHICH IS 

4841
02:33:50,621 --> 02:33:52,089
WHICH. I MEAN THE ENGINE, WHICH 

4842
02:33:52,089 --> 02:33:53,357
IS REALLY WHAT WE NEED IN EVERY 

4843
02:33:53,357 --> 02:33:54,225
STATION, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THE 

4844
02:33:54,225 --> 02:33:57,127
BIG EVENT ON THE FIRE, IT'S 

4845
02:33:57,127 --> 02:33:57,828
GREAT TO HAVE AN EIGHT CAR 

4846
02:33:57,828 --> 02:33:59,096
THERE, BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE 

4847
02:33:59,096 --> 02:33:59,964
AN ENGINE THERE READY TO GO TO 

4848
02:33:59,964 --> 02:34:02,066
WORK AND PUT THE FIRE OUT. SO 

4849
02:34:02,066 --> 02:34:03,067
THE POSSIBILITY IS REAL. IT 

4850
02:34:03,067 --> 02:34:04,301
COULD HAPPEN IF WE TOOK A LADDER

4851
02:34:04,301 --> 02:34:06,537
TRUCK OUT OF SERVICE, FOR 

4852
02:34:06,537 --> 02:34:07,237
EXAMPLE, LADDER SIX ON QUEEN 

4853
02:34:07,237 --> 02:34:09,440
ANNE. WELL, THERE IS ENGINE 

4854
02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:10,674
EIGHT IN THAT STATION, SO 

4855
02:34:10,674 --> 02:34:12,076
THERE'S STILL A RESOURCE THERE.

4856
02:34:12,076 --> 02:34:13,744
BUT THE NEXT LADDER TRUCK WOULD 

4857
02:34:13,744 --> 02:34:17,581
COME FROM BALLARD OR BELLTOWN. 

4858
02:34:17,581 --> 02:34:18,282
SO 60,000 POUNDS 60FT LONG 

4859
02:34:18,282 --> 02:34:19,383
CLIMBING UP THAT HILL. IT'S 

4860
02:34:19,383 --> 02:34:20,784
GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO 

4861
02:34:20,784 --> 02:34:22,086
GET THERE. BUT, BUT THERE IS A 

4862
02:34:22,086 --> 02:34:23,354
POSSIBILITY OF THAT. 

4863
02:34:23,354 --> 02:34:24,722
-- OKAY. 

4864
02:34:24,722 --> 02:34:26,957
-- IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ANY 

4865
02:34:26,957 --> 02:34:27,558
SINGLE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC 

4866
02:34:27,558 --> 02:34:34,131
SHIFT WILL BE UNSTAFFED IN 2027?

4867
02:34:34,131 --> 02:34:35,366
-- YES, THERE YOU KNOW, IN THE 

4868
02:34:35,366 --> 02:34:40,271
13 POSITIONS I, I CAN PROBABLY 

4869
02:34:40,271 --> 02:34:42,506
PREDICT WITH A HIGH PROBABILITY 

4870
02:34:42,506 --> 02:34:44,308
THAT, YOU KNOW, PARAMEDICS, 

4871
02:34:44,308 --> 02:34:46,176
THERE WOULD BE A PARAMEDIC UNIT 

4872
02:34:46,176 --> 02:34:48,479
ON STAFF, OUR PARAMEDIC NUMBERS 

4873
02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:49,480
HAVE BEEN LOW AND WE'VE BEEN 

4874
02:34:49,480 --> 02:34:51,115
WORKING HARD TO INCREASE THAT. 

4875
02:34:51,115 --> 02:34:52,883
YOU MAY REMEMBER WE DID THE 

4876
02:34:52,883 --> 02:34:54,918
FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC LATERAL 

4877
02:34:54,918 --> 02:34:56,687
PROGRAM. WE INCREASED OUR 

4878
02:34:56,687 --> 02:34:58,155
NUMBERS LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE 

4879
02:34:58,155 --> 02:34:59,790
WORKING TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER.

4880
02:34:59,790 --> 02:35:01,792
BUT OUR PARAMEDICS HAVE BEEN 

4881
02:35:01,792 --> 02:35:04,094
WORKING A LOT 

4882
02:35:04,094 --> 02:35:05,829
-- THEY CERTAINLY HAVE. I SAW 

4883
02:35:05,829 --> 02:35:08,565
THAT IN ACTION A COUPLE DAYS 

4884
02:35:08,565 --> 02:35:11,869
AGO, AND IF THIS REDUCTION IS IT

4885
02:35:11,869 --> 02:35:13,404
GOES FORWARD, TO WHAT EXTENT 

4886
02:35:13,404 --> 02:35:15,939
WILL WE THINK ABOUT 

4887
02:35:15,939 --> 02:35:16,473
PRIORITIZATION TO LIKE A 

4888
02:35:16,473 --> 02:35:18,676
PRIORITIZATION METRIC TO APPLY 

4889
02:35:18,676 --> 02:35:19,843
WHEN DETERMINING WHERE AND WHEN 

4890
02:35:19,843 --> 02:35:22,279
UNIT OUTAGES MAY HAPPEN? 

4891
02:35:22,279 --> 02:35:24,481
-- YES, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. WE

4892
02:35:24,481 --> 02:35:25,916
HAVE A STAFFING MATRIX. AND IT 

4893
02:35:25,916 --> 02:35:28,118
ALSO WILL DEPEND ON THE SKILL 

4894
02:35:28,118 --> 02:35:29,586
SET OF THE INDIVIDUALS. SO IF A 

4895
02:35:29,586 --> 02:35:31,488
PERSON IS A FIREFIGHTER 

4896
02:35:31,488 --> 02:35:32,823
PARAMEDIC, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE 

4897
02:35:32,823 --> 02:35:33,357
GOING TO PRIORITIZE THEM. 

4898
02:35:33,357 --> 02:35:35,159
GETTING THEM ON A PARAMEDIC 

4899
02:35:35,159 --> 02:35:36,860
UNIT, BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE 

4900
02:35:36,860 --> 02:35:39,163
SKILL SETS OF THE INDIVIDUALS. 

4901
02:35:39,163 --> 02:35:41,598
NOW, OUR SPECIALTY AND TECHNICAL

4902
02:35:41,598 --> 02:35:44,635
TEAMS ARE HAZMAT TEAM, OUR 

4903
02:35:44,635 --> 02:35:46,503
RESCUE ONE TEAM, OUR ENERGY 

4904
02:35:46,503 --> 02:35:48,005
RESPONSE TEAM, OUR MARINE 

4905
02:35:48,005 --> 02:35:49,973
RESPONSE TEAM, OUR FIRE BOAT 

4906
02:35:49,973 --> 02:35:51,642
TEAMS. WE WORK HARD TO KEEP ALL 

4907
02:35:51,642 --> 02:35:54,712
OF THOSE SPECIALTY AND TECHNICAL

4908
02:35:54,712 --> 02:35:56,113
UNITS IN SERVICE EVERY SINGLE 

4909
02:35:56,113 --> 02:35:59,416
DAY. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T 

4910
02:35:59,416 --> 02:36:02,653
HEAR ME MENTIONED ENGINE 25 OR 

4911
02:36:02,653 --> 02:36:04,054
LADDER TEN OR ENGINE 36 OR 

4912
02:36:04,054 --> 02:36:07,291
RESCUE ONE OR ENGINE TEN OR 

4913
02:36:07,291 --> 02:36:09,226
LADDER ONE, BECAUSE THEY ALL 

4914
02:36:09,226 --> 02:36:11,361
HAVE SPECIALTY NRD CON TEAM AT 

4915
02:36:11,361 --> 02:36:12,930
ENGINE 27 DOWN IN GEORGETOWN. 

4916
02:36:12,930 --> 02:36:15,099
THEY ALL HAVE OTHER ANCILLARY 

4917
02:36:15,099 --> 02:36:16,166
DUTIES THAT RESPOND OUT THE 

4918
02:36:16,166 --> 02:36:17,534
DOOR. SO WE REALLY WORK HARD TO 

4919
02:36:17,534 --> 02:36:18,836
STAY AWAY FROM THEM AND THE 

4920
02:36:18,836 --> 02:36:20,838
OTHER UNITS. I SHOULD ACTUALLY 

4921
02:36:20,838 --> 02:36:22,106
PROVIDE CLARITY. WE WORK HARD TO

4922
02:36:22,106 --> 02:36:24,608
STAY AWAY FROM THE EDGES. SO IF 

4923
02:36:24,608 --> 02:36:26,076
24 IS ALL THE WAY IN BITTER LAKE

4924
02:36:26,076 --> 02:36:29,379
AND IT'S OUR MOST NORTH WEST 

4925
02:36:29,379 --> 02:36:31,081
FIRE STATION, WE WORK HARD TO 

4926
02:36:31,081 --> 02:36:34,051
KEEP THAT STATION IN SERVICE 

4927
02:36:34,051 --> 02:36:34,718
STATION 39 IN LAKE CITY. IT'S 

4928
02:36:34,718 --> 02:36:38,122
OUR MOST FAR NORTHEAST STATION. 

4929
02:36:38,122 --> 02:36:39,590
WE WORK HARD TO KEEP THAT 

4930
02:36:39,590 --> 02:36:42,459
STATION IN SERVICE. ENGINE 33 

4931
02:36:42,459 --> 02:36:43,293
DOWN IN THE SOUTH END OF THE 

4932
02:36:43,293 --> 02:36:44,495
RAINIER VALLEY. WE WORK HARD TO 

4933
02:36:44,495 --> 02:36:46,897
KEEP THAT END AND SO ON AND SO 

4934
02:36:46,897 --> 02:36:49,099
FORTH. SO WE REALLY TRY TO 

4935
02:36:49,099 --> 02:36:50,534
PROTECT THE EDGES WITH OUR 

4936
02:36:50,534 --> 02:36:51,201
STAFFING BECAUSE WE KNOW IF WE 

4937
02:36:51,201 --> 02:36:53,137
TAKE ANY OF THOSE STATIONS OUT, 

4938
02:36:53,137 --> 02:36:54,238
IT'S A LONG WAY FOR THE NEXT 

4939
02:36:54,238 --> 02:36:57,141
UNIT TO GET THERE. 

4940
02:36:57,141 --> 02:36:58,776
-- I APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD 

4941
02:36:58,776 --> 02:37:01,278
LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS 

4942
02:37:01,278 --> 02:37:02,112
TOOL, PARTICULARLY. IT SOUNDS 

4943
02:37:02,112 --> 02:37:02,713
VERY COMPLICATED AND VERY 

4944
02:37:02,713 --> 02:37:03,981
COMPLEX, AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A

4945
02:37:03,981 --> 02:37:05,282
LOT OF FACTORS. AND OF COURSE, 

4946
02:37:05,282 --> 02:37:06,617
NOT TAKING LIGHTLY AT ALL WHEN 

4947
02:37:06,617 --> 02:37:07,851
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNIT 

4948
02:37:07,851 --> 02:37:09,219
OUTAGES AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR 

4949
02:37:09,219 --> 02:37:10,387
RESPONSE TIMES AND WHO GETS THE 

4950
02:37:10,387 --> 02:37:12,256
CARE AND RESPONSE, TAKING THAT 

4951
02:37:12,256 --> 02:37:13,290
VERY SERIOUSLY. SO WOULD LOVE TO

4952
02:37:13,290 --> 02:37:15,592
FOLLOW UP TO KNOW MORE. I AM 

4953
02:37:15,592 --> 02:37:18,462
GOING TO SWITCH TOPICS CHAIR 

4954
02:37:18,462 --> 02:37:20,931
STRAUSS THOUGHT I WAS DONE. I'M

4955
02:37:20,931 --> 02:37:21,832
GOING TO SWITCH TOPICS VERY 

4956
02:37:21,832 --> 02:37:24,067
QUICKLY. I'LL KEEP IT SHORT 

4957
02:37:24,067 --> 02:37:26,737
CHAIR STRAUSS JUST TO THE MOBILE

4958
02:37:26,737 --> 02:37:28,472
INTEGRATED HEALTH PROGRAM BEING 

4959
02:37:28,472 --> 02:37:31,175
THE ONE THAT OVERSEES OUR 

4960
02:37:31,175 --> 02:37:33,410
POST-OVERDOSE TEAM, ARE WE 

4961
02:37:33,410 --> 02:37:36,346
EXPECTED TO HOLD MORE LONG 

4962
02:37:36,346 --> 02:37:36,980
ACTING INJECTABLE BUPRENORPHINE 

4963
02:37:36,980 --> 02:37:38,282
CLINICS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 

4964
02:37:38,282 --> 02:37:40,284
HARBORVIEW AND OTHER COMMUNITY 

4965
02:37:40,284 --> 02:37:42,119
PARTNERS? AS A PART OF THIS 

4966
02:37:42,119 --> 02:37:42,352
BUDGET? 

4967
02:37:42,352 --> 02:37:44,254
-- THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES. 

4968
02:37:44,254 --> 02:37:47,958
-- FABULOUS AND BUILDING ON 

4969
02:37:47,958 --> 02:37:51,395
THAT, I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN 

4970
02:37:51,395 --> 02:37:52,930
SPEAK TO IF SFD IS MEETING ITS 

4971
02:37:52,930 --> 02:37:54,431
TARGET FOR HEALTH 99 COVERAGE 

4972
02:37:54,431 --> 02:37:55,666
RIGHT NOW, IT'S MY 

4973
02:37:55,666 --> 02:37:56,834
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GOAL WAS 

4974
02:37:56,834 --> 02:37:58,402
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 12 HOURS A 

4975
02:37:58,402 --> 02:38:00,470
DAY FROM 9 A.M. TO 9 P.M. ARE WE

4976
02:38:00,470 --> 02:38:01,471
HITTING THAT GOAL? 

4977
02:38:01,471 --> 02:38:03,607
-- WE'RE MEETING THAT GOAL WITH

4978
02:38:03,607 --> 02:38:04,875
THE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE MAY 

4979
02:38:04,875 --> 02:38:08,078
NOT BE MEETING IT FOR ALL OF THE

4980
02:38:08,078 --> 02:38:09,680
TIME FRAMES, AND THAT'S ALSO 

4981
02:38:09,680 --> 02:38:11,348
IT'S THE SAME BODY OF PEOPLE 

4982
02:38:11,348 --> 02:38:12,816
WHO STAFFED THESE FIRE STATIONS,

4983
02:38:12,816 --> 02:38:14,718
WHO ACTUALLY STAFF HEALTH. ONE, 

4984
02:38:14,718 --> 02:38:18,121
THEY GO DOWN THERE FOR 3 OR 6 

4985
02:38:18,121 --> 02:38:19,089
MONTHS STINTS TO WORK THE UNIT, 

4986
02:38:19,089 --> 02:38:20,691
AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO THEIR 

4987
02:38:20,691 --> 02:38:22,125
HOME UNIT, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD 

4988
02:38:22,125 --> 02:38:24,862
FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU'RE

4989
02:38:24,862 --> 02:38:26,396
NOW GETTING A FIREFIGHTER WHO'S

4990
02:38:26,396 --> 02:38:27,931
WORKING ON ANOTHER ENGINE WHO 

4991
02:38:27,931 --> 02:38:29,366
JUST SPENT 3 TO 6 MONTHS WORKING

4992
02:38:29,366 --> 02:38:30,467
ON THAT UNIT, AND THEY BRING 

4993
02:38:30,467 --> 02:38:31,735
THAT SKILL SET BACK TO THE 

4994
02:38:31,735 --> 02:38:33,470
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AROUND THE 

4995
02:38:33,470 --> 02:38:34,705
CITY. AND WHAT WE SEE THAT LEAD 

4996
02:38:34,705 --> 02:38:36,406
TO IS OUR REFERRAL PROGRAM. LAST

4997
02:38:36,406 --> 02:38:39,643
YEAR, WE HAD OVER 3300 REFERRALS

4998
02:38:39,643 --> 02:38:41,445
FROM OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN THE 

4999
02:38:41,445 --> 02:38:42,813
FIELD THAT ARE HEALTH. ONE UNIT 

5000
02:38:42,813 --> 02:38:44,448
WILL FOLLOW UP ON WITH OUR NURSE

5001
02:38:44,448 --> 02:38:46,283
PRACTITIONER, AND THAT'S ALSO 

5002
02:38:46,283 --> 02:38:47,417
HELPING TAKE CALLS OUT OF THE 

5003
02:38:47,417 --> 02:38:49,152
SYSTEM. ALSO. 

5004
02:38:49,152 --> 02:38:50,654
-- THANK YOU FOR THOSE UPDATES. 

5005
02:38:50,654 --> 02:38:52,289
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, CHAIR. 

5006
02:38:52,289 --> 02:38:54,791
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 

5007
02:38:54,791 --> 02:38:56,693
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. FOLLOWED BY 

5008
02:38:56,693 --> 02:38:57,928
HOLLINGSWORTH AND LIN. IF 

5009
02:38:57,928 --> 02:38:58,662
EVERYONE SPEAKS FOR TEN MINUTES,

5010
02:38:58,662 --> 02:39:00,097
WE WILL STILL BE OUT BY 430. 

5011
02:39:00,097 --> 02:39:01,431
WE'RE STAYING ON TRACK. OVER TO

5012
02:39:01,431 --> 02:39:03,667
YOU COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

5013
02:39:03,667 --> 02:39:05,736
-- THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK 

5014
02:39:05,736 --> 02:39:08,505
YOU CHIEF. REALLY APPRECIATE THE

5015
02:39:08,505 --> 02:39:09,706
UPDATE HERE AND MORE 

5016
02:39:09,706 --> 02:39:11,575
IMPORTANTLY, THE WORK THAT THE 

5017
02:39:11,575 --> 02:39:12,910
BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF SEATTLE 

5018
02:39:12,910 --> 02:39:14,344
FIRE DEPARTMENT DO EVERY DAY. 

5019
02:39:14,344 --> 02:39:16,580
THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT 

5020
02:39:16,580 --> 02:39:19,316
PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN OUR 

5021
02:39:19,316 --> 02:39:20,817
COMMUNITY. AND WHAT'S AT STAKE 

5022
02:39:20,817 --> 02:39:23,520
NOW IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS 

5023
02:39:23,520 --> 02:39:27,291
BOILS DOWN TO RESPONSE TIMES. 

5024
02:39:27,291 --> 02:39:31,295
EARLIER, EARLY IN THE MORNING ON

5025
02:39:31,295 --> 02:39:33,297
MARCH 26th, 2026, AND 11 YEAR 

5026
02:39:33,297 --> 02:39:35,032
OLD GIRL WAS PULLED FROM THE 

5027
02:39:35,032 --> 02:39:41,038
COLD WATER OFF ALKI BEACH, 

5028
02:39:41,038 --> 02:39:41,672
SEATTLE FIRE'S MARINE UNITS 

5029
02:39:41,672 --> 02:39:44,808
LOCATED HER, BROUGHT HER ABOARD 

5030
02:39:44,808 --> 02:39:47,711
RESCUE BOAT FIVE AND MEDICS 

5031
02:39:47,711 --> 02:39:49,446
BEGAN LIFESAVING CARE BEFORE 

5032
02:39:49,446 --> 02:39:51,248
TRANSFERRING HER TO A HOSPITAL, 

5033
02:39:51,248 --> 02:39:53,250
WHERE SHE REMAINED IN SERIOUS 

5034
02:39:53,250 --> 02:39:56,119
CONDITION. NOW, THAT WASN'T A 

5035
02:39:56,119 --> 02:39:57,487
HYPOTHETICAL TRAINING SCENARIO. 

5036
02:39:57,487 --> 02:39:59,590
IT WAS REAL. IT OCCURRED IN MY 

5037
02:39:59,590 --> 02:40:03,193
DISTRICT AND IT DEPENDED ON A 

5038
02:40:03,193 --> 02:40:05,595
VERY WELL STAFFED, EXPERTLY 

5039
02:40:05,595 --> 02:40:09,066
TRAINED, FULLY PREPARED SEATTLE 

5040
02:40:09,066 --> 02:40:09,700
FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, 

5041
02:40:09,700 --> 02:40:12,269
THERE ARE STORIES LIKE THAT 

5042
02:40:12,269 --> 02:40:14,404
ACROSS ACROSS MY DISTRICT, NO 

5043
02:40:14,404 --> 02:40:15,906
DOUBT ACROSS THE CITY. IN FACT, 

5044
02:40:15,906 --> 02:40:18,175
I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN 

5045
02:40:18,175 --> 02:40:22,612
STORY AND EXPERIENCE WITH WITH 

5046
02:40:22,612 --> 02:40:23,113
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND 

5047
02:40:23,113 --> 02:40:24,881
FIREFIGHTERS ALMOST FOUR YEARS 

5048
02:40:24,881 --> 02:40:29,586
AGO TODAY MY SON, MY THEN FIVE 

5049
02:40:29,586 --> 02:40:33,223
YEAR OLD SON, WILEY, SUFFERED A 

5050
02:40:33,223 --> 02:40:36,093
WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A FEBRILE 

5051
02:40:36,093 --> 02:40:38,795
SEIZURE. AND IT'S REALLY SCARY 

5052
02:40:38,795 --> 02:40:43,233
THING FOR A PARENT WHEN HADN'T 

5053
02:40:43,233 --> 02:40:43,867
EXPERIENCED THINGS LIKE THAT IN 

5054
02:40:43,867 --> 02:40:44,434
THE PAST, AND THEN ALL OF A 

5055
02:40:44,434 --> 02:40:48,905
SUDDEN CALL 911 VERY QUICKLY, 

5056
02:40:48,905 --> 02:40:54,211
VERY QUICKLY. BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS

5057
02:40:54,211 --> 02:40:54,811
AND PARAMEDICS RESPONDED AND 

5058
02:40:54,811 --> 02:40:57,080
PROVIDED HIM WITH APPROPRIATE 

5059
02:40:57,080 --> 02:41:00,250
CARE AND ALSO COMFORT FOR THE 

5060
02:41:00,250 --> 02:41:01,351
PARENT. A LITTLE BIT TRAUMATIZED

5061
02:41:01,351 --> 02:41:06,990
BY THAT EXPERIENCE AS WELL. AND 

5062
02:41:06,990 --> 02:41:10,127
AGAIN, WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE IS 

5063
02:41:10,127 --> 02:41:12,562
RESPONSE TIMES AND MATTER OF 

5064
02:41:12,562 --> 02:41:15,032
FACT. WILEY, COME HERE WORKING 

5065
02:41:15,032 --> 02:41:17,734
IN THE IN THE HOME OFFICE HERE. 

5066
02:41:17,734 --> 02:41:25,208
WILEY, COME HERE. SAY HELLO. 

5067
02:41:25,208 --> 02:41:25,442
-- HI. 

5068
02:41:25,442 --> 02:41:25,709
-- SAME. 

5069
02:41:25,709 --> 02:41:29,179
-- THANK YOU. FIREFIGHTERS. 

5070
02:41:29,179 --> 02:41:29,813
-- OH., THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU.

5071
02:41:29,813 --> 02:41:32,215
SAY THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME. 

5072
02:41:32,215 --> 02:41:32,816
-- THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME. 

5073
02:41:32,816 --> 02:41:34,518
-- THANK YOU FOR HELPING US. ALL

5074
02:41:34,518 --> 02:41:37,354
RIGHT. GO DO YOUR 

5075
02:41:37,354 --> 02:41:37,688
-- [LAUGHTER] 

5076
02:41:37,688 --> 02:41:39,723
-- HOMEWORK. ALL RIGHT. WELL, 

5077
02:41:39,723 --> 02:41:44,961
THESE ARE REAL, REAL STORIES 

5078
02:41:44,961 --> 02:41:47,698
STORIES FROM MY FAMILY. OUR 

5079
02:41:47,698 --> 02:41:49,766
COMMUNITY HERE IN DISTRICT ONE. 

5080
02:41:49,766 --> 02:41:52,936
EXPERIENCES FROM, SHARED BY, 

5081
02:41:52,936 --> 02:41:53,503
EXPRESSED BY COUNCILMEMBER 

5082
02:41:53,503 --> 02:41:54,571
RINCK. A MOMENT AGO. FOR 

5083
02:41:54,571 --> 02:41:57,307
EXAMPLE, WE ALL HAVE THESE THESE

5084
02:41:57,307 --> 02:41:58,809
THESE THESE STORIES THAT 

5085
02:41:58,809 --> 02:41:59,543
HIGHLIGHT THE IMPACT OF THE WORK

5086
02:41:59,543 --> 02:42:02,045
THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES. 

5087
02:42:02,045 --> 02:42:04,514
SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT 

5088
02:42:04,514 --> 02:42:07,350
NOW WE'RE FACING A PROPOSAL TO 

5089
02:42:07,350 --> 02:42:10,020
CUT THE DEPARTMENT'S OVERTIME 

5090
02:42:10,020 --> 02:42:11,621
BUDGET. AND JUST YESTERDAY, THE 

5091
02:42:11,621 --> 02:42:14,691
FIREFIGHTERS UNION WARNED THAT 

5092
02:42:14,691 --> 02:42:15,225
THESE CUTS WILL DELAY 911 

5093
02:42:15,225 --> 02:42:17,661
RESPONSES. AND FORCE ROTATING 

5094
02:42:17,661 --> 02:42:19,429
CLOSURES OF ENGINES, TRUCKS AND 

5095
02:42:19,429 --> 02:42:21,631
EVEN STATIONS. THE REALITY IS 

5096
02:42:21,631 --> 02:42:23,633
CLEAR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. BUT 

5097
02:42:23,633 --> 02:42:25,335
ALARMING PEOPLE WILL WAIT LONGER

5098
02:42:25,335 --> 02:42:29,973
FOR HELP WHEN THEY CALL 911, AND

5099
02:42:29,973 --> 02:42:32,242
THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL 

5100
02:42:32,242 --> 02:42:34,111
OF RISK FOR DISTRICT ONE. AND I 

5101
02:42:34,111 --> 02:42:38,281
SUSPECT OTHER DISTRICTS AS WELL.

5102
02:42:38,281 --> 02:42:40,150
WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. EARTH 

5103
02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:40,684
STATIONS ACROSS SEATTLE, 

5104
02:42:40,684 --> 02:42:43,653
INCLUDING STATIONS 26 AND 37 IN 

5105
02:42:43,653 --> 02:42:45,455
DISTRICT ONE, HAVE EXPERIENCED 

5106
02:42:45,455 --> 02:42:45,956
MANY YEARS OF DEFERRED 

5107
02:42:45,956 --> 02:42:49,059
MAINTENANCE AS WELL. LOOKING IN 

5108
02:42:49,059 --> 02:42:53,797
THAT CAPITAL, THE CIP BUDGET. I 

5109
02:42:53,797 --> 02:42:57,167
APPRECIATE YOU, CHIEF. FOR FOR 

5110
02:42:57,167 --> 02:42:59,970
BEING SO TRANSPARENT IN ALL 

5111
02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:01,138
THIS. AND FORTHCOMING AND NOT AT

5112
02:43:01,138 --> 02:43:05,909
ALL HIDING THE BALL. NOT ONLY 

5113
02:43:05,909 --> 02:43:06,343
DURING YOUR INITIAL 

5114
02:43:06,343 --> 02:43:07,310
PRESENTATION, BUT THROUGH 

5115
02:43:07,310 --> 02:43:08,044
THROUGH SOME OF THE BACK AND 

5116
02:43:08,044 --> 02:43:10,247
FORTH AND CLARIFYING QUESTIONS 

5117
02:43:10,247 --> 02:43:12,849
FROM MY COLLEAGUES. I HAD SOME 

5118
02:43:12,849 --> 02:43:13,984
QUESTIONS, SOME OF WHICH WERE 

5119
02:43:13,984 --> 02:43:15,252
ADDRESSED. I HAVE SOME MORE 

5120
02:43:15,252 --> 02:43:16,419
DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT I'LL 

5121
02:43:16,419 --> 02:43:19,356
RESERVE FOR THE THE Q&amp;A OFFLINE 

5122
02:43:19,356 --> 02:43:22,259
PROCESS. IN THE INTEREST OF 

5123
02:43:22,259 --> 02:43:25,428
TIME, BUT AYE. BUT I HAVE HEARD 

5124
02:43:25,428 --> 02:43:27,230
ENOUGH AT THE SAME TIME. SO 

5125
02:43:27,230 --> 02:43:30,834
THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, 

5126
02:43:30,834 --> 02:43:31,535
FIRE TEAM. APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR 

5127
02:43:31,535 --> 02:43:32,836
SELFLESS SERVICE TO OUR CITY AND

5128
02:43:32,836 --> 02:43:34,671
ALL THE WORK YOU DO TO KEEP US 

5129
02:43:34,671 --> 02:43:35,272
SAFE. THANK YOU CHAIR. 

5130
02:43:35,272 --> 02:43:36,907
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA

5131
02:43:36,907 --> 02:43:37,574
COMMITTEE TABLE. WOULD YOU LIKE 

5132
02:43:37,574 --> 02:43:40,343
TO SHARE ANYTHING? 

5133
02:43:40,343 --> 02:43:43,146
-- ONE THING I DIDN'T ANSWER 

5134
02:43:43,146 --> 02:43:44,514
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S QUESTION

5135
02:43:44,514 --> 02:43:47,184
WHEN SHE ASKED ABOUT MORALE 

5136
02:43:47,184 --> 02:43:49,920
SINCE. SO THE WAY THIS PROCESS 

5137
02:43:49,920 --> 02:43:51,621
WORKS AFTER THE MAYOR'S BUDGET 

5138
02:43:51,621 --> 02:43:53,890
SPEECH, I SEND A COMMUNICATION 

5139
02:43:53,890 --> 02:43:54,524
OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT EXPLAINING

5140
02:43:54,524 --> 02:43:57,894
WHAT OUR REDUCTIONS WILL BE. 

5141
02:43:57,894 --> 02:43:58,562
I'VE HAD MULTIPLE FIREFIGHTERS 

5142
02:43:58,562 --> 02:44:01,998
STOP BY MY OFFICE AND TALK ABOUT

5143
02:44:01,998 --> 02:44:02,599
HOW THIS REDUCTION WILL KILL 

5144
02:44:02,599 --> 02:44:05,235
MORALE. SO THAT'S REALLY 

5145
02:44:05,235 --> 02:44:06,336
IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WE ASK

5146
02:44:06,336 --> 02:44:09,039
OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO DO A LOT OF 

5147
02:44:09,039 --> 02:44:10,307
THINGS, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. I

5148
02:44:10,307 --> 02:44:11,374
DIDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION 

5149
02:44:11,374 --> 02:44:12,676
WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT MORALE. 

5150
02:44:12,676 --> 02:44:14,477
-- THANK YOU CHIEF. 

5151
02:44:14,477 --> 02:44:15,579
-- THANK YOU CHIEF. WE'RE GOING

5152
02:44:15,579 --> 02:44:17,814
TO GO ON TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

5153
02:44:17,814 --> 02:44:18,748
COUNCILMEMBER LIN AND THEN 

5154
02:44:18,748 --> 02:44:20,116
MYSELF. IF WE ALL SPEAK FOR TEN 

5155
02:44:20,116 --> 02:44:21,651
MINUTES, WE'LL BE OUT BY 425. 

5156
02:44:21,651 --> 02:44:22,619
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, 

5157
02:44:22,619 --> 02:44:25,655
FOR GIVING US FIVE MINUTES. BACK

5158
02:44:25,655 --> 02:44:26,289
OVER TO YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 

5159
02:44:26,289 --> 02:44:28,091
-- THANK YOU CHAIR, AND I WON'T

5160
02:44:28,091 --> 02:44:31,161
BE TEN MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'LL

5161
02:44:31,161 --> 02:44:32,929
BE FAST. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK

5162
02:44:32,929 --> 02:44:34,264
YOU, CHIEF SCOGGINS OUR FIRE 

5163
02:44:34,264 --> 02:44:36,099
DEPARTMENT FOR BEING HERE. I 

5164
02:44:36,099 --> 02:44:37,033
WANT TO READ AN EMAIL THAT I 

5165
02:44:37,033 --> 02:44:42,038
SENT YOU ON IN 2024. AND THIS 

5166
02:44:42,038 --> 02:44:43,640
LEADS ME INTO MY QUESTION. NO. 

5167
02:44:43,640 --> 02:44:44,741
2020 4th DECEMBER. AND THIS 

5168
02:44:44,741 --> 02:44:47,277
LEADS ME INTO MY QUESTION, WHICH

5169
02:44:47,277 --> 02:44:50,213
IS SO I WROTE AND YOU RESPONDED.

5170
02:44:50,213 --> 02:44:51,181
SO THIS ISN'T A GOTCHA OR 

5171
02:44:51,181 --> 02:44:53,383
ANYTHING. I JUST WANT TO SET 

5172
02:44:53,383 --> 02:44:54,184
CONTEXT FOR THIS. SO I DON'T 

5173
02:44:54,184 --> 02:44:54,918
WANT YOU TO BE TRIPPING. LIKE, 

5174
02:44:54,918 --> 02:44:57,654
DID I RESPOND? YES, YOU DID. SO 

5175
02:44:57,654 --> 02:44:59,990
LAST NIGHT I WROTE THIS. WHEN 

5176
02:44:59,990 --> 02:45:00,957
DID I WRITE THIS? I WRITE THIS 

5177
02:45:00,957 --> 02:45:05,095
20, 20, 24 IN DECEMBER. LAST 

5178
02:45:05,095 --> 02:45:06,563
NIGHT AROUND MIDNIGHT, I WAS 

5179
02:45:06,563 --> 02:45:08,131
DRIVING BY MILLER PARK AND MY 

5180
02:45:08,131 --> 02:45:10,267
NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I SAW MEDICS 

5181
02:45:10,267 --> 02:45:12,102
FROM MEDIC ONE DOING CHEST 

5182
02:45:12,102 --> 02:45:12,702
COMPRESSIONS ON AN INDIVIDUAL 

5183
02:45:12,702 --> 02:45:14,871
WHO HAD OVERDOSED ON SOME TYPE 

5184
02:45:14,871 --> 02:45:16,172
OF DRUG. I SAT THERE IN MY CAR 

5185
02:45:16,172 --> 02:45:18,742
AND WATCHED AS FIREFIGHTERS 

5186
02:45:18,742 --> 02:45:20,477
ROTATED BETWEEN TEAM MEMBERS, 

5187
02:45:20,477 --> 02:45:22,445
DOING TEN ROUNDS OF CHEST 

5188
02:45:22,445 --> 02:45:23,079
COMPRESSIONS. I STARTED PRAYING 

5189
02:45:23,079 --> 02:45:25,382
FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, AND I AND 

5190
02:45:25,382 --> 02:45:28,251
AYE. THERE WAS NO WAY THAT I 

5191
02:45:28,251 --> 02:45:30,687
THOUGHT THIS PERSON WOULD 

5192
02:45:30,687 --> 02:45:32,789
SURVIVE. NONE ON THE LAST SET. 

5193
02:45:32,789 --> 02:45:35,859
AFTER 18 MINUTES OF NONSTOP 

5194
02:45:35,859 --> 02:45:36,993
COMPRESSIONS WHEN AYE. WHEN I 

5195
02:45:36,993 --> 02:45:39,195
WAS LOOKING AT THE FIREFIGHTERS 

5196
02:45:39,195 --> 02:45:40,530
ROTATE DOING THEM, YOU ALL FOUND

5197
02:45:40,530 --> 02:45:42,766
A PULSE AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE 

5198
02:45:42,766 --> 02:45:44,367
WHAT I HAD JUST SEEN. THEY NEVER

5199
02:45:44,367 --> 02:45:45,769
GAVE UP. I THOUGHT I WAS 

5200
02:45:45,769 --> 02:45:47,671
INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR 

5201
02:45:47,671 --> 02:45:50,073
PROFESSIONALISM, HEROISM, MENTAL

5202
02:45:50,073 --> 02:45:51,174
STRENGTH AND UNFORTUNATELY, I 

5203
02:45:51,174 --> 02:45:54,811
KNOW THAT IS A REALITY THAT YOUR

5204
02:45:54,811 --> 02:45:55,412
DEPARTMENT HAS TO DEAL WITH A 

5205
02:45:55,412 --> 02:45:58,882
LOT OF TIMES. AND I'VE HAD THE 

5206
02:45:58,882 --> 02:45:59,516
WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING.

5207
02:45:59,516 --> 02:46:00,283
THERE'S ONLY ONE FIRE STATION 

5208
02:46:00,283 --> 02:46:02,519
IN MY DISTRICT. I HAVEN'T HAD 

5209
02:46:02,519 --> 02:46:04,187
DINNER WITH, AND I WILL. IT'S 

5210
02:46:04,187 --> 02:46:05,655
THE STATION OVER BY SEATTLE PREP

5211
02:46:05,655 --> 02:46:07,958
IN MONTLAKE, SO I DON'T KNOW 

5212
02:46:07,958 --> 02:46:09,726
WHAT STATION IT IS, BUT I WILL. 

5213
02:46:09,726 --> 02:46:12,362
FOR THE RECORD, I WILL DO IT. 

5214
02:46:12,362 --> 02:46:14,030
BUT WHEN I HAD. ONE OF THE 

5215
02:46:14,030 --> 02:46:16,032
THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM EITHER 

5216
02:46:16,032 --> 02:46:18,802
STATION 25 ON CAPITOL HILL OR 

5217
02:46:18,802 --> 02:46:21,137
THE ONE OVER OFF OF MLK AND 

5218
02:46:21,137 --> 02:46:22,372
JACKSON WAS THE AMOUNT OF CALLS 

5219
02:46:22,372 --> 02:46:25,475
THAT THEY HAD TO DO TO DEAL WITH

5220
02:46:25,475 --> 02:46:27,410
FENTANYL OR, OR DRUGS. PEOPLE 

5221
02:46:27,410 --> 02:46:29,012
THAT WERE OVERDOSING, AND THE 

5222
02:46:29,012 --> 02:46:30,947
AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK. AND ONE 

5223
02:46:30,947 --> 02:46:33,683
PLACE THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT 

5224
02:46:33,683 --> 02:46:35,518
GOING 900 TIMES TO FOR THE YEAR 

5225
02:46:35,518 --> 02:46:38,521
900 TIMES IN ONE PLACE, BECAUSE 

5226
02:46:38,521 --> 02:46:39,789
PEOPLE WERE EXPERIENCING, YOU 

5227
02:46:39,789 --> 02:46:42,525
KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRUG, 

5228
02:46:42,525 --> 02:46:46,029
DRUG OVERDOSES OR MENTAL HEALTH,

5229
02:46:46,029 --> 02:46:48,932
ALL THESE THINGS. CAN YOU 

5230
02:46:48,932 --> 02:46:50,567
EXPLAIN TO US? AND THE FIRE 

5231
02:46:50,567 --> 02:46:51,668
DEPARTMENT HAS MORPHED OVER THE 

5232
02:46:51,668 --> 02:46:53,003
YEARS BEFORE IT WAS A FIRE, YOU 

5233
02:46:53,003 --> 02:46:58,074
KNOW, RESPONDS TO FIRE. THE 

5234
02:46:58,074 --> 02:47:00,443
AMOUNT OF TIME CALLS WITHIN A 

5235
02:47:00,443 --> 02:47:02,545
FIREFIGHTERS DAY OR JUST THE 

5236
02:47:02,545 --> 02:47:05,115
CALLS IN GENERAL THAT ARE 

5237
02:47:05,115 --> 02:47:07,250
ATTRIBUTED TO OVERDOSES, WHERE 

5238
02:47:07,250 --> 02:47:07,851
YOUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE PUTTING 

5239
02:47:07,851 --> 02:47:09,452
THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO 

5240
02:47:09,452 --> 02:47:11,788
REVIVE PEOPLE. WHERE WE HAVE 

5241
02:47:11,788 --> 02:47:13,356
FAILED AS A CITY AND AS A COUNTY

5242
02:47:13,356 --> 02:47:16,326
TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE HEALTH 

5243
02:47:16,326 --> 02:47:17,394
ISSUES THAT WE SEE ON OUR 

5244
02:47:17,394 --> 02:47:19,596
STREET, BECAUSE YOU'RE OUR LAST

5245
02:47:19,596 --> 02:47:20,430
SAFETY NET AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE 

5246
02:47:20,430 --> 02:47:21,231
FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS, AND 

5247
02:47:21,231 --> 02:47:21,898
THEY GET TO YOU. AND THE AMOUNT 

5248
02:47:21,898 --> 02:47:24,134
OF STRESS THAT THAT PUTS ON WITH

5249
02:47:24,134 --> 02:47:25,535
OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. 

5250
02:47:25,535 --> 02:47:26,669
-- SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE 

5251
02:47:26,669 --> 02:47:27,370
QUESTION, AND THANK YOU FOR THE 

5252
02:47:27,370 --> 02:47:30,173
REMINDER. I DO REMEMBER THAT 

5253
02:47:30,173 --> 02:47:31,508
EMAIL AND THE FIRE STATION 

5254
02:47:31,508 --> 02:47:32,809
REFERRING TO, I BELIEVE 900 

5255
02:47:32,809 --> 02:47:36,279
TIMES A YEAR IS STATION SIX ON 

5256
02:47:36,279 --> 02:47:38,381
JACKSON, WHICH THEIR FIRST 

5257
02:47:38,381 --> 02:47:40,116
RESPONSE DISTRICT IS 12th IN 

5258
02:47:40,116 --> 02:47:41,451
JACKSON. SO THEY THEY'RE THE 

5259
02:47:41,451 --> 02:47:43,286
FIRST UNIT THAT GOES THERE A 

5260
02:47:43,286 --> 02:47:45,055
LOT, BUT I HAVEN'T I SHOULD HAVE

5261
02:47:45,055 --> 02:47:46,589
LOOKED THIS NUMBER BEFORE I 

5262
02:47:46,589 --> 02:47:49,092
CAME, BUT A WHILE BACK IT WAS 60

5263
02:47:49,092 --> 02:47:50,860
TO 80 TIMES A WEEK THAT WE WERE 

5264
02:47:50,860 --> 02:47:52,996
RESPONDING ON OVERDOSES. IT MAY 

5265
02:47:52,996 --> 02:47:54,764
BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT

5266
02:47:54,764 --> 02:47:56,366
RIGHT NOW. I FEEL LIKE I HAD A 

5267
02:47:56,366 --> 02:47:58,334
MEETING WITH JOHN AND HE TOLD ME

5268
02:47:58,334 --> 02:48:00,403
IT'S BEEN AN UPTICK, BUT I 

5269
02:48:00,403 --> 02:48:01,805
THINK I'M PRETTY SAFE WITH 

5270
02:48:01,805 --> 02:48:04,007
SAYING 60 TO 80 TIMES PER WEEK 

5271
02:48:04,007 --> 02:48:05,775
THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO THESE 

5272
02:48:05,775 --> 02:48:07,243
TYPE OF EMERGENCIES, BUT WE'LL 

5273
02:48:07,243 --> 02:48:08,478
GET THAT EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU 

5274
02:48:08,478 --> 02:48:09,212
AND GET BACK TO YOU. 

5275
02:48:09,212 --> 02:48:12,415
-- NO WORRIES. THAT THAT THAT TO

5276
02:48:12,415 --> 02:48:15,084
ME JUST DRAWS MY POINT EXACTLY. 

5277
02:48:15,084 --> 02:48:18,021
THAT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT SOME OF

5278
02:48:18,021 --> 02:48:18,655
THE HEALTH DISPARITIES THAT ARE 

5279
02:48:18,655 --> 02:48:20,457
GOING ON OUR STREETS AND WHERE 

5280
02:48:20,457 --> 02:48:21,658
WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE AND ALL THE

5281
02:48:21,658 --> 02:48:23,426
THINGS WITH KING COUNTY THAT YOU

5282
02:48:23,426 --> 02:48:26,696
ARE OUR LAST LINE TO KEEP PEOPLE

5283
02:48:26,696 --> 02:48:28,298
ALIVE. AND WE WE ALL KNOW THAT. 

5284
02:48:28,298 --> 02:48:29,899
BUT JUST WANTED TO FOR THE 

5285
02:48:29,899 --> 02:48:33,236
PUBLIC, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT 

5286
02:48:33,236 --> 02:48:33,903
WE'RE RESPONDING TO THOSE CALLS

5287
02:48:33,903 --> 02:48:36,873
THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT'S 

5288
02:48:36,873 --> 02:48:38,508
DEDICATING TO THOSE CALLS VERSUS

5289
02:48:38,508 --> 02:48:39,709
OTHER, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT WE 

5290
02:48:39,709 --> 02:48:41,377
HAVE GOING ON WITHIN OUR CITY 

5291
02:48:41,377 --> 02:48:44,481
TAKES UP A LOT OF A LOT OF 

5292
02:48:44,481 --> 02:48:46,049
PEOPLE'S TIME ON THAT. SO JUST 

5293
02:48:46,049 --> 02:48:47,350
THANK YOU FOR THAT. I REALLY 

5294
02:48:47,350 --> 02:48:48,551
APPRECIATE IT. I'M GLAD YOU 

5295
02:48:48,551 --> 02:48:49,686
REMEMBER THE EMAIL AS WELL. I 

5296
02:48:49,686 --> 02:48:52,155
DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS FROM 2024

5297
02:48:52,155 --> 02:48:53,723
WHEN I WAS WHEN I WAS LOOKING IT

5298
02:48:53,723 --> 02:48:54,924
UP. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU 

5299
02:48:54,924 --> 02:48:55,158
CHAIR. 

5300
02:48:55,158 --> 02:48:56,593
-- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

5301
02:48:56,593 --> 02:48:58,761
-- CHAIR, IF I CAN ADD ONE MORE 

5302
02:48:58,761 --> 02:48:59,762
NOTE TO THAT. SO THE SEATTLE 

5303
02:48:59,762 --> 02:49:01,664
FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOT JUST 

5304
02:49:01,664 --> 02:49:04,234
FOCUSED ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US

5305
02:49:04,234 --> 02:49:06,069
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ALSO PAYING 

5306
02:49:06,069 --> 02:49:07,637
ATTENTION TO H.R. ONE, WHICH IS 

5307
02:49:07,637 --> 02:49:10,640
A BIG DEAL IN WASHINGTON. WE 

5308
02:49:10,640 --> 02:49:13,610
EXPECT 3 TO 400,000 PEOPLE TO 

5309
02:49:13,610 --> 02:49:15,545
LOSE HEALTH CARE. AND IN KING 

5310
02:49:15,545 --> 02:49:16,946
COUNTY, 75 TO 100,000 PEOPLE. 

5311
02:49:16,946 --> 02:49:19,182
AND THAT'S STARTING TO UNFOLD. 

5312
02:49:19,182 --> 02:49:21,885
AND WHAT WE KNOW IS 911 WILL 

5313
02:49:21,885 --> 02:49:23,419
BECOME MORE OF A PART OF THE 

5314
02:49:23,419 --> 02:49:26,389
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. SO WE'RE 

5315
02:49:26,389 --> 02:49:27,257
WATCHING THIS CLOSELY. WE'RE 

5316
02:49:27,257 --> 02:49:28,892
TALKING TO FOLKS. WE'RE TRYING 

5317
02:49:28,892 --> 02:49:29,959
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS

5318
02:49:29,959 --> 02:49:30,793
GOING TO BE, BUT WHAT THAT MEANS

5319
02:49:30,793 --> 02:49:31,895
IS GOING TO BE MORE EMS CALLS 

5320
02:49:31,895 --> 02:49:32,629
THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING 

5321
02:49:32,629 --> 02:49:34,230
ON. IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HEALTH

5322
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:35,632
CARE AND THEY CAN'T GO SEE 

5323
02:49:35,632 --> 02:49:36,699
DOCTORS, AND THEY WILL WAIT 

5324
02:49:36,699 --> 02:49:37,967
UNTIL IT GETS TO A CERTAIN POINT

5325
02:49:37,967 --> 02:49:39,802
AND THEY WILL CALL 911. SO WE'RE

5326
02:49:39,802 --> 02:49:41,271
TRYING TO PAY ATTENTION TO 

5327
02:49:41,271 --> 02:49:43,373
ACTUALLY WHAT'S COMING TOO. 

5328
02:49:43,373 --> 02:49:45,174
-- THANK YOU. DIRECTOR PENNUCCI.

5329
02:49:45,174 --> 02:49:46,476
-- YEAH, I THINK. 

5330
02:49:46,476 --> 02:49:47,977
-- IT'S THANK YOU, CHIEF 

5331
02:49:47,977 --> 02:49:49,379
SCOGGINS AND I JUST I THINK WE 

5332
02:49:49,379 --> 02:49:50,613
CAN ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS THE 

5333
02:49:50,613 --> 02:49:53,983
MEDICAL CALLS CONTINUE TO RISE, 

5334
02:49:53,983 --> 02:49:54,584
THE CITY HAS BEEN REALLY 

5335
02:49:54,584 --> 02:49:57,320
FOCUSING ON THIS IMPORTANT 

5336
02:49:57,320 --> 02:49:58,021
INVESTMENT IN M I, H AND AID 

5337
02:49:58,021 --> 02:49:59,522
UNITS. AND SO I THINK IT'S 

5338
02:49:59,522 --> 02:50:01,624
REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE 

5339
02:50:01,624 --> 02:50:03,092
THIS WORK TOGETHER TO CONTINUE 

5340
02:50:03,092 --> 02:50:04,294
TO MAKE THESE STRATEGIC 

5341
02:50:04,294 --> 02:50:06,629
INVESTMENTS AS THE TYPES OF 

5342
02:50:06,629 --> 02:50:07,997
CALLS WE RESPOND TO CONTINUE TO 

5343
02:50:07,997 --> 02:50:09,566
EVOLVE AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE 

5344
02:50:09,566 --> 02:50:11,234
ARE STAFFING. 

5345
02:50:11,234 --> 02:50:12,535
-- THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FROM

5346
02:50:12,535 --> 02:50:13,136
THE COMMITTEE TABLE BEFORE WE 

5347
02:50:13,136 --> 02:50:15,638
MOVE ON? THANK YOU. WE HAVE 

5348
02:50:15,638 --> 02:50:17,073
COUNCILMEMBER LIN AND THEN 

5349
02:50:17,073 --> 02:50:17,740
MYSELF, IF WE ALL SPEAK FOR TEN 

5350
02:50:17,740 --> 02:50:19,976
MINUTES, WE'LL BE OUT OF HERE 

5351
02:50:19,976 --> 02:50:20,777
BY 420. SO WE'RE MAKING UP GOOD

5352
02:50:20,777 --> 02:50:23,680
TIME. OVER TO YOU, COUNCILMEMBER

5353
02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:23,880
LIN. 

5354
02:50:23,880 --> 02:50:25,114
-- THANK YOU. JUST TO FOLLOW UP 

5355
02:50:25,114 --> 02:50:27,150
ON THE OVERTIME AND JUST TO MAKE

5356
02:50:27,150 --> 02:50:30,453
SURE I KIND OF UNDERSTAND, I 

5357
02:50:30,453 --> 02:50:33,523
THINK OVER TIME HAS INCREASED 

5358
02:50:33,523 --> 02:50:34,157
OVER THE YEARS. AND IN PART, I 

5359
02:50:34,157 --> 02:50:36,793
THINK YOU MENTIONED HOW, YOU 

5360
02:50:36,793 --> 02:50:39,963
KNOW, LOSS OF STAFFING DUE TO 

5361
02:50:39,963 --> 02:50:41,831
THE VACCINE REQUIREMENTS, BUT, 

5362
02:50:41,831 --> 02:50:43,733
YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY THE LONG 

5363
02:50:43,733 --> 02:50:45,401
TERM, AND I THINK I HEARD THIS 

5364
02:50:45,401 --> 02:50:48,171
AT, YOU KNOW, WITH ADDITIONAL 

5365
02:50:48,171 --> 02:50:51,574
HIRING, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO 

5366
02:50:51,574 --> 02:50:52,175
REDUCE OVERTIME. AND SORT OF 

5367
02:50:52,175 --> 02:50:53,910
THAT'S THAT'S THE LONG TERM 

5368
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:56,012
GOAL OR HOPE. IS THAT CORRECT? 

5369
02:50:56,012 --> 02:50:57,380
-- THAT THAT IS A LONG TERM 

5370
02:50:57,380 --> 02:51:01,017
GOAL. 

5371
02:51:01,017 --> 02:51:02,919
-- OKAY. JUST ON OVERTIME, WE 

5372
02:51:02,919 --> 02:51:05,355
SPOKE EARLIER WITH SPD AND THEY 

5373
02:51:05,355 --> 02:51:07,824
GET REIMBURSED FOR SOME OVERTIME

5374
02:51:07,824 --> 02:51:09,959
FOR STAFFING EVENTS. IS THERE 

5375
02:51:09,959 --> 02:51:11,394
ANY SIMILAR MECHANISM? HAS THAT 

5376
02:51:11,394 --> 02:51:14,030
EVER BEEN EXPLORED? 

5377
02:51:14,030 --> 02:51:14,731
-- SURE. AND YES, AND THAT'S WHY

5378
02:51:14,731 --> 02:51:16,032
I TRIED TO BREAK IT OUT INTO 

5379
02:51:16,032 --> 02:51:17,800
MINIMUM STAFFING, WHICH IS 

5380
02:51:17,800 --> 02:51:19,836
STAFFING THE RIGS VERSUS 

5381
02:51:19,836 --> 02:51:21,371
OVERTIME. SO MINIMUM STAFFING IS

5382
02:51:21,371 --> 02:51:23,640
THE BIG NUMBER WE'RE TALKING 

5383
02:51:23,640 --> 02:51:25,508
ABOUT HERE. BUT FOR SPECIAL 

5384
02:51:25,508 --> 02:51:27,777
EVENTS, SEAHAWKS, MARINERS, ALL 

5385
02:51:27,777 --> 02:51:27,977
THOSE 

5386
02:51:27,977 --> 02:51:29,078
-- SPECIAL EVENTS. WE HAVE 

5387
02:51:29,078 --> 02:51:30,580
CONTRACTS, SO WE GET REIMBURSED 

5388
02:51:30,580 --> 02:51:33,082
FOR ALL THAT. A LOT OF OUR 

5389
02:51:33,082 --> 02:51:33,750
OVERTIME COMES FROM GRANTS. WE 

5390
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:35,618
HAVE A NUMBER OF FEDERAL GRANTS 

5391
02:51:35,618 --> 02:51:37,620
THAT FUND OUR TRAINING. USC, 

5392
02:51:37,620 --> 02:51:39,756
HOMELAND SECURITY, PORT 

5393
02:51:39,756 --> 02:51:41,457
SECURITY, A F G. SO WE GET 

5394
02:51:41,457 --> 02:51:42,925
REIMBURSED FOR A LOT OF THE 

5395
02:51:42,925 --> 02:51:44,060
GRANTS. AND FIFA. OBVIOUSLY, WE 

5396
02:51:44,060 --> 02:51:46,062
HAD A LOT OF REIMBURSEMENTS 

5397
02:51:46,062 --> 02:51:47,130
COMING FROM THAT. SO A LOT OF 

5398
02:51:47,130 --> 02:51:48,831
ALL OF THE OTHER OVERTIME WE DO 

5399
02:51:48,831 --> 02:51:50,366
GET REIMBURSED FOR. BUT THE 

5400
02:51:50,366 --> 02:51:52,635
MINIMUM STAFFING TO STAFF THOSE 

5401
02:51:52,635 --> 02:51:53,703
ENGINES TO KEEP THEM TO A 

5402
02:51:53,703 --> 02:51:55,938
CERTAIN LEVEL ENGINES, LADDERS, 

5403
02:51:55,938 --> 02:51:57,807
A CAR, MEDIC UNITS, NOT 

5404
02:51:57,807 --> 02:51:59,242
REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT. 

5405
02:51:59,242 --> 02:52:01,411
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND I 

5406
02:52:01,411 --> 02:52:04,647
THINK YOU SPOKE TO THIS EARLIER,

5407
02:52:04,647 --> 02:52:05,148
BUT JUST ON THE MINIMUM 

5408
02:52:05,148 --> 02:52:06,616
STAFFING, GIVEN CURRENT HIRING, 

5409
02:52:06,616 --> 02:52:09,952
SORT OF WHAT IS THE KIND OF 

5410
02:52:09,952 --> 02:52:13,056
SHORT TERM MEDIUM TERM OUTLOOK 

5411
02:52:13,056 --> 02:52:14,457
TO ADDRESS THAT WITH, WITH 

5412
02:52:14,457 --> 02:52:15,491
STAFFING FULL TIME VERSUS 

5413
02:52:15,491 --> 02:52:18,795
OVERTIME? I MEAN, REGULAR TIME 

5414
02:52:18,795 --> 02:52:19,195
VERSUS OVERTIME? 

5415
02:52:19,195 --> 02:52:20,029
-- WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 

5416
02:52:20,029 --> 02:52:22,598
ABOUT 70 VACANCIES AND WE HAVE A

5417
02:52:22,598 --> 02:52:24,233
CURRENT GROUP IN RIGHT NOW. SO 

5418
02:52:24,233 --> 02:52:25,668
DEPENDING ON HOW MANY WE LOSE 

5419
02:52:25,668 --> 02:52:27,270
BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, 

5420
02:52:27,270 --> 02:52:28,471
WE'LL DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE IN

5421
02:52:28,471 --> 02:52:30,373
OUR CURRENT BUDGET. WE'RE FUNDED

5422
02:52:30,373 --> 02:52:33,409
FOR 60 NEW HIRE POSITIONS NEXT 

5423
02:52:33,409 --> 02:52:35,945
YEAR. AND SO THAT WILL PUSH IT 

5424
02:52:35,945 --> 02:52:38,247
DOWN MORE. IF WE IF WE IF WE 

5425
02:52:38,247 --> 02:52:41,050
RETIRE 40 AND WE HIRE 60, WE'LL

5426
02:52:41,050 --> 02:52:42,485
BE PLUS 20 MORE. THAT'S WHY THIS

5427
02:52:42,485 --> 02:52:44,187
YEAR WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL WHEN 

5428
02:52:44,187 --> 02:52:46,622
THE COUNCIL GAVE US AUTHORITY TO

5429
02:52:46,622 --> 02:52:47,757
HIRE 105, BECAUSE WE REALLY 

5430
02:52:47,757 --> 02:52:49,625
PUSHED THAT NUMBER DOWN. BECAUSE

5431
02:52:49,625 --> 02:52:53,763
I MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK WE 

5432
02:52:53,763 --> 02:52:54,864
STARTED AT 130 132 AT THE START 

5433
02:52:54,864 --> 02:52:57,367
OF THE YEAR. VACANCIES. SO WE'VE

5434
02:52:57,367 --> 02:53:01,738
DONE A GOOD JOB THERE. 

5435
02:53:01,738 --> 02:53:02,705
-- AND I'M PRESUMING THAT IT 

5436
02:53:02,705 --> 02:53:04,440
SAVES TO PAY SORT OF STRAIGHT 

5437
02:53:04,440 --> 02:53:07,009
TIME RATHER THAN OVERTIME. SO I 

5438
02:53:07,009 --> 02:53:09,312
MEAN, THE ADDITIONAL HIRES 

5439
02:53:09,312 --> 02:53:10,847
SHOULD BE HELPING WITH THAT. 

5440
02:53:10,847 --> 02:53:13,316
-- THEY ARE HELPING WITH THAT. 

5441
02:53:13,316 --> 02:53:16,219
AND IT PREVENTS THE BURNOUT. IT 

5442
02:53:16,219 --> 02:53:18,121
IT SLOWS DOWN THE NUMBER OF 

5443
02:53:18,121 --> 02:53:19,222
SHIFTS FIREFIGHTERS ARE WORKING.

5444
02:53:19,222 --> 02:53:20,490
BUT I WOULD LEAVE IT TO THE 

5445
02:53:20,490 --> 02:53:22,125
FINANCE FOLKS TO DO THE 

5446
02:53:22,125 --> 02:53:24,026
CALCULATION. OVERTIME IS 1.5, 

5447
02:53:24,026 --> 02:53:25,762
BUT A FULLY BURDENED 

5448
02:53:25,762 --> 02:53:28,865
FIREFIGHTER, IT MAY BE MORE THAN

5449
02:53:28,865 --> 02:53:30,133
1.5 WITH THE BENEFIT PACKAGE AND

5450
02:53:30,133 --> 02:53:31,634
EVERYTHING ELSE, SO THAT THE 

5451
02:53:31,634 --> 02:53:33,569
MATH SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE TO

5452
02:53:33,569 --> 02:53:33,903
DO THAT MATH. 

5453
02:53:33,903 --> 02:53:34,470
-- OKAY. THANK YOU CHAIR. 

5454
02:53:34,470 --> 02:53:36,272
THAT'S ALL. 

5455
02:53:36,272 --> 02:53:37,106
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

5456
02:53:37,106 --> 02:53:37,740
COLLEAGUES, BECAUSE FOLKS HAVE 

5457
02:53:37,740 --> 02:53:38,708
GIVEN US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME 

5458
02:53:38,708 --> 02:53:40,243
BACK, AND I SEE COUNCILMEMBER 

5459
02:53:40,243 --> 02:53:41,377
FOSTER HAS ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT

5460
02:53:41,377 --> 02:53:42,111
IF YOU'RE QUICK. 

5461
02:53:42,111 --> 02:53:43,079
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. 

5462
02:53:43,079 --> 02:53:44,981
THIS WILL BE MY FIRST QUESTION 

5463
02:53:44,981 --> 02:53:47,750
<u>FOR FOR FIRE TODAY. %</u>

5464
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:48,317
-- AND TAKE AS LONG AS YOU. 

5465
02:53:48,317 --> 02:53:48,651
-- [LAUGHTER] 

5466
02:53:48,651 --> 02:53:50,453
-- WANT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, 

5467
02:53:50,453 --> 02:53:51,888
CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF 

5468
02:53:51,888 --> 02:53:52,855
SCOGGINS. I REALLY APPRECIATE 

5469
02:53:52,855 --> 02:53:54,390
YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALL 

5470
02:53:54,390 --> 02:53:56,492
THE WORK THAT THE FOLKS IN YOUR 

5471
02:53:56,492 --> 02:53:57,293
DEPARTMENT DO. SO THANKS FOR 

5472
02:53:57,293 --> 02:53:59,529
SPENDING YOUR TIME HERE WITH US 

5473
02:53:59,529 --> 02:54:00,630
TODAY. I WAS GOING TO DO MY 

5474
02:54:00,630 --> 02:54:02,064
QUESTION AS FOLLOW UP, BUT 

5475
02:54:02,064 --> 02:54:02,698
COUNCILMEMBER LIN STARTED TO GET

5476
02:54:02,698 --> 02:54:05,668
THERE AND I AND I THINK THE 

5477
02:54:05,668 --> 02:54:06,602
ANSWER THAT YOU MIGHT GIVE ME 

5478
02:54:06,602 --> 02:54:07,436
MIGHT BE SEND IT TO FINANCE, BUT

5479
02:54:07,436 --> 02:54:09,772
I'M GOING TO PUT IT OUT ANYWAY,

5480
02:54:09,772 --> 02:54:10,606
BECAUSE SOMETHING I'VE BEEN 

5481
02:54:10,606 --> 02:54:13,843
WONDERING IS, AS WE TALK ABOUT 

5482
02:54:13,843 --> 02:54:15,211
THE OVERTIME REDUCTION AND THEN 

5483
02:54:15,211 --> 02:54:16,345
THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE 

5484
02:54:16,345 --> 02:54:17,547
IN TERMS OF HIRING. SO WHAT I 

5485
02:54:17,547 --> 02:54:21,217
HEAR IS DOWN TO 70 VACANCIES. 

5486
02:54:21,217 --> 02:54:21,884
YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN HIRE 60

5487
02:54:21,884 --> 02:54:25,021
OF THOSE VACANCIES NEXT YEAR. 

5488
02:54:25,021 --> 02:54:26,222
AND I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO 

5489
02:54:26,222 --> 02:54:27,723
FIGURE OUT IS WHERE DOES THAT 

5490
02:54:27,723 --> 02:54:32,261
LEAVE US? ON BALANCE WITH THE 

5491
02:54:32,261 --> 02:54:33,362
THE TIME IN THE DEPARTMENT, IF 

5492
02:54:33,362 --> 02:54:35,531
THAT MAKES SENSE. RIGHT. SO 

5493
02:54:35,531 --> 02:54:36,165
UNDERSTANDING WE'RE REDUCING 

5494
02:54:36,165 --> 02:54:39,235
OVERTIME HOURS, BUT WE'RE ADDING

5495
02:54:39,235 --> 02:54:40,403
PEOPLE TO THE DEPARTMENT. HOW 

5496
02:54:40,403 --> 02:54:41,504
DOES HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE 

5497
02:54:41,504 --> 02:54:45,575
THAT LEAVES US IN TERMS OF 

5498
02:54:45,575 --> 02:54:46,209
CAPACITY AND SORT OF THE BALANCE

5499
02:54:46,209 --> 02:54:47,443
IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BECAUSE 

5500
02:54:47,443 --> 02:54:48,044
THAT ASSUMES THAT THERE IS A 

5501
02:54:48,044 --> 02:54:50,012
BALANCE. BUT WHAT DOES IT EQUATE

5502
02:54:50,012 --> 02:54:54,617
TO IN TERMS OF OVERALL LOSS IN 

5503
02:54:54,617 --> 02:54:55,685
HOURS OR FIREFIGHTER POWER? IF 

5504
02:54:55,685 --> 02:54:57,220
WE'VE GOT THOSE 60 FOLKS ON AT 

5505
02:54:57,220 --> 02:55:00,823
THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAVE THAT 

5506
02:55:00,823 --> 02:55:01,123
REDUCTION? 

5507
02:55:01,123 --> 02:55:01,991
-- YES. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF 

5508
02:55:01,991 --> 02:55:05,728
THINGS TO THAT. SO APPROXIMATELY

5509
02:55:05,728 --> 02:55:08,130
70 VACANCIES. NOW, IF WE END THE

5510
02:55:08,130 --> 02:55:08,965
YEAR WITH THAT, IT MAY BE A 

5511
02:55:08,965 --> 02:55:10,166
LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT LET'S SAY

5512
02:55:10,166 --> 02:55:14,637
70. AND THEN WE HIRE 60 NEXT 

5513
02:55:14,637 --> 02:55:16,706
YEAR. SO THERE'S A DELTA THERE 

5514
02:55:16,706 --> 02:55:18,107
OF TEN. BUT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE

5515
02:55:18,107 --> 02:55:19,976
AT LEAST 40 RETIREMENTS NEXT 

5516
02:55:19,976 --> 02:55:21,410
YEAR. SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY 

5517
02:55:21,410 --> 02:55:24,080
THAT WOULD PUT US AT A VACANCY 

5518
02:55:24,080 --> 02:55:26,282
RATE OF ABOUT 50. BUT THERE'S 

5519
02:55:26,282 --> 02:55:27,750
MORE BODIES TO WORK. AND THAT 

5520
02:55:27,750 --> 02:55:29,819
MEANS THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE 

5521
02:55:29,819 --> 02:55:31,821
WORKING LESS OVERTIME, WHICH 

5522
02:55:31,821 --> 02:55:35,591
MEANS LESS BURNOUT. NOW THE GOAL

5523
02:55:35,591 --> 02:55:38,628
IS TO PUSH THAT NUMBER DOWN AS 

5524
02:55:38,628 --> 02:55:40,930
LOW AS POSSIBLE. I BELIEVE THERE

5525
02:55:40,930 --> 02:55:43,232
WILL ALWAYS BE SOME OVERTIME 

5526
02:55:43,232 --> 02:55:45,635
BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT LEAF 

5527
02:55:45,635 --> 02:55:46,702
TYPES, JUST LIKE EVERYONE GETS. 

5528
02:55:46,702 --> 02:55:48,204
YOU KNOW, FOLKS GET VACATION, 

5529
02:55:48,204 --> 02:55:49,772
THEY GET SICK DAYS, THEY HAVE 

5530
02:55:49,772 --> 02:55:51,874
PEOPLE, THEY HAVE FML. LIFE 

5531
02:55:51,874 --> 02:55:54,110
HAPPENS. SO JUST LIKE EVERYONE 

5532
02:55:54,110 --> 02:55:56,078
ELSE WHO WORKS, BUT THERE'S NOT

5533
02:55:56,078 --> 02:55:57,813
A BACKFILL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT 

5534
02:55:57,813 --> 02:55:59,015
AN EXPECTATION THAT WHEN THAT 

5535
02:55:59,015 --> 02:56:01,083
FIRE ENGINE SHOWS UP, THERE'S 

5536
02:56:01,083 --> 02:56:02,618
FOUR PEOPLE. SOMETIMES THOSE 

5537
02:56:02,618 --> 02:56:04,220
SEATS SIT VACANT. BUT OUR SEATS,

5538
02:56:04,220 --> 02:56:06,322
IF WE SIT THEM VACANT, THAT 

5539
02:56:06,322 --> 02:56:08,090
MEANS THAT WE HAVE SOME 

5540
02:56:08,090 --> 02:56:09,358
CHALLENGES OUT IN THE FIELD WITH

5541
02:56:09,358 --> 02:56:10,760
HOW OUR OPERATIONS ARE BUILT. 

5542
02:56:10,760 --> 02:56:13,896
AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. WE

5543
02:56:13,896 --> 02:56:14,430
HAVE A STANDARD OPERATING 

5544
02:56:14,430 --> 02:56:15,064
GUIDELINE PLAN FOR PRETTY MUCH 

5545
02:56:15,064 --> 02:56:19,201
EVERY EMERGENCY WE RESPOND TO, 

5546
02:56:19,201 --> 02:56:20,303
AND THAT'S BUILT ON A STRUCTURE

5547
02:56:20,303 --> 02:56:21,504
AND A SYSTEM. SO ALL THIS COMES 

5548
02:56:21,504 --> 02:56:23,139
INTO PLAY. 

5549
02:56:23,139 --> 02:56:23,773
-- THAT'S INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. 

5550
02:56:23,773 --> 02:56:25,474
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, 

5551
02:56:25,474 --> 02:56:26,475
CHIEF. AND I THINK THAT GETS TO 

5552
02:56:26,475 --> 02:56:27,410
SOME OF WHAT MY QUESTION WAS. 

5553
02:56:27,410 --> 02:56:30,012
AND I THINK I REALLY ESPECIALLY 

5554
02:56:30,012 --> 02:56:31,714
APPRECIATE YOU REMINDING ME, 

5555
02:56:31,714 --> 02:56:32,848
EVEN WITH THOSE 60 ADDITIONAL 

5556
02:56:32,848 --> 02:56:35,117
FOLKS COMING ON, AS WE'RE 

5557
02:56:35,117 --> 02:56:35,651
THINKING ABOUT POTENTIAL 

5558
02:56:35,651 --> 02:56:36,385
RETIREMENTS, THAT SORT OF ADDS 

5559
02:56:36,385 --> 02:56:38,988
TO THE EQUATION. I DO THINK I 

5560
02:56:38,988 --> 02:56:40,523
MEAN, I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST A

5561
02:56:40,523 --> 02:56:41,691
CHALLENGING BUDGET YEAR, AND I 

5562
02:56:41,691 --> 02:56:43,326
ALSO KNOW THAT WE CARE DEEPLY 

5563
02:56:43,326 --> 02:56:44,927
ABOUT MAKING SURE OUR PUBLIC 

5564
02:56:44,927 --> 02:56:46,395
SAFETY DEPARTMENTS ARE FULLY 

5565
02:56:46,395 --> 02:56:47,863
STAFFED. AND SO TRYING TO FIGURE

5566
02:56:47,863 --> 02:56:49,465
OUT IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT 

5567
02:56:49,465 --> 02:56:51,100
DELTA A LITTLE BIT MORE MIGHT BE

5568
02:56:51,100 --> 02:56:52,301
HELPFUL FOR US IN THE BUDGET 

5569
02:56:52,301 --> 02:56:54,337
PROCESS. SO LOOKING TO LOOKING 

5570
02:56:54,337 --> 02:56:57,573
TO CENTER, I WAS GOING TO SAY TO

5571
02:56:57,573 --> 02:57:00,242
LOOKING TO BUDGET DIRECTOR AND 

5572
02:57:00,242 --> 02:57:01,010
TO DIRECTOR CBO DIRECTOR, SO 

5573
02:57:01,010 --> 02:57:03,346
THAT WE CAN DO THAT AS FOLLOW 

5574
02:57:03,346 --> 02:57:04,914
UP, I THINK, TO HELP US 

5575
02:57:04,914 --> 02:57:06,015
UNDERSTAND TO JUST GET A FULLER 

5576
02:57:06,015 --> 02:57:09,051
PICTURE OF NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU.

5577
02:57:09,051 --> 02:57:09,619
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

5578
02:57:09,619 --> 02:57:12,755
FOSTER OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITSON.

5579
02:57:12,755 --> 02:57:15,591
-- WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND BRING 

5580
02:57:15,591 --> 02:57:16,459
INFORMATION FOR OUR DEPARTMENT 

5581
02:57:16,459 --> 02:57:19,395
PRESENTATIONS IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

5582
02:57:19,395 --> 02:57:21,263
-- FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. 

5583
02:57:21,263 --> 02:57:22,665
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. IF WE WITH

5584
02:57:22,665 --> 02:57:24,000
ONE MORE PERSON LEFT, IF WE ALL 

5585
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:25,568
SPEAK, WE'LL BE HERE TILL 530. 

5586
02:57:25,568 --> 02:57:26,569
NO, I'M KIDDING. AND I WILL 

5587
02:57:26,569 --> 02:57:32,441
START MY TIMER NOW. I KNOW I'LL

5588
02:57:32,441 --> 02:57:34,176
GIVE MY UPDATES FOR HOW MUCH 

5589
02:57:34,176 --> 02:57:35,745
TIME I'VE TAKEN UP AT THE END 

5590
02:57:35,745 --> 02:57:37,380
OF THIS. THIS RIGHT NOW, FIRST, 

5591
02:57:37,380 --> 02:57:38,581
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

5592
02:57:38,581 --> 02:57:40,316
SERVICE. I THANK ALL THE 

5593
02:57:40,316 --> 02:57:43,219
FIREFIGHTERS WITHIN SEATTLE FIRE

5594
02:57:43,219 --> 02:57:44,153
DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR SERVICE. 

5595
02:57:44,153 --> 02:57:47,123
YESTERDAY, JEFF MILLER TESTIFIED

5596
02:57:47,123 --> 02:57:49,759
AND JEFF MILLER'S TESTIMONY. HE

5597
02:57:49,759 --> 02:57:51,494
SHARED THAT THEY THEIR JOB IS 

5598
02:57:51,494 --> 02:57:54,397
PROVIDING PEOPLE SECOND CHANCES 

5599
02:57:54,397 --> 02:57:57,033
THAT THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT

5600
02:57:57,033 --> 02:57:58,467
PROVIDES PEOPLE SECOND CHANCES 

5601
02:57:58,467 --> 02:57:59,435
BY GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE 

5602
02:57:59,435 --> 02:58:02,672
AT LIFE AND I SHARED AT THE TIME

5603
02:58:02,672 --> 02:58:06,742
THAT I'M ONE OF THOSE SECOND 

5604
02:58:06,742 --> 02:58:09,011
CHANCES. IN SEPTEMBER 2004, I 

5605
02:58:09,011 --> 02:58:11,580
WAS HIT BY A DRIVER DRIVING A 

5606
02:58:11,580 --> 02:58:13,649
CAR TO THE POINT WHERE I HAD TWO

5607
02:58:13,649 --> 02:58:15,451
COLLAPSED LUNGS AND ONE OF THEM 

5608
02:58:15,451 --> 02:58:17,853
WAS PUNCTURED. THAT WAS 2:59 

5609
02:58:17,853 --> 02:58:21,357
P.M. AND BY THE TIME 

5610
02:58:21,357 --> 02:58:23,592
FIREFIGHTERS WERE DISPATCHED AT 

5611
02:58:23,592 --> 02:58:26,695
3 P.M. AND THEY ARRIVED AT 3:04 

5612
02:58:26,695 --> 02:58:29,098
P.M., IF I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO 

5613
02:58:29,098 --> 02:58:31,100
RE-INFLATE MY LUNGS, I FELL OFF 

5614
02:58:31,100 --> 02:58:32,668
THE MONKEY BARS A LOT AS A KID, 

5615
02:58:32,668 --> 02:58:36,072
SO I KNOW HOW TO DO IT IF I 

5616
02:58:36,072 --> 02:58:38,641
HADN'T RE-INFLATED MY LUNGS 

5617
02:58:38,641 --> 02:58:39,909
ACCORDING TO MY GOOGLE SEARCHES,

5618
02:58:39,909 --> 02:58:41,243
I'M NOT A DOCTOR OR A MEDIC. 

5619
02:58:41,243 --> 02:58:43,212
I'VE GOT FOUR MINUTES BEFORE 

5620
02:58:43,212 --> 02:58:45,481
PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE SETS IN, 

5621
02:58:45,481 --> 02:58:48,818
AND SO IF I, WITHIN THIS TIME 

5622
02:58:48,818 --> 02:58:50,019
FRAME, YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN 

5623
02:58:50,019 --> 02:58:52,388
THERE JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME. 

5624
02:58:52,388 --> 02:58:54,256
BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 

5625
02:58:54,256 --> 02:58:56,192
THE 42nd DELAY THAT WE WERE 

5626
02:58:56,192 --> 02:58:57,860
TALKING ABOUT NORTH AURORA, THAT

5627
02:58:57,860 --> 02:58:59,562
STARTS FACTORING IN WHEN WE 

5628
02:58:59,562 --> 02:59:02,064
START, IF THERE'S STATIONS THAT

5629
02:59:02,064 --> 02:59:03,199
GO DOWN AND WE'RE FACTORING IN 

5630
02:59:03,199 --> 02:59:05,034
ANOTHER MINUTE, THAT'S THE 

5631
02:59:05,034 --> 02:59:07,837
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PERMANENT 

5632
02:59:07,837 --> 02:59:11,640
BRAIN DAMAGE AND A 

5633
02:59:11,640 --> 02:59:13,442
COUNCILMEMBER. THE FUTURE OF 

5634
02:59:13,442 --> 02:59:14,577
PEOPLE'S LIVES. I COULDN'T SIT

5635
02:59:14,577 --> 02:59:16,178
HERE AS A COUNCILMEMBER IF I HAD

5636
02:59:16,178 --> 02:59:21,250
PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE 22 YEARS 

5637
02:59:21,250 --> 02:59:23,552
AGO. AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE 

5638
02:59:23,552 --> 02:59:26,021
THIS MOMENT TO THANK FIREFIGHTER

5639
02:59:26,021 --> 02:59:27,923
MYRON HAIG. THANK FIREFIGHTER 

5640
02:59:27,923 --> 02:59:28,824
PATRICK JASPER. WE'VE NEVER 

5641
02:59:28,824 --> 02:59:30,659
GOTTEN THE CHANCE TO SEE EACH 

5642
02:59:30,659 --> 02:59:32,061
OTHER AGAIN SINCE THAT DAY, 20, 

5643
02:59:32,061 --> 02:59:36,432
20. TWO YEARS AGO. BUT I THINK 

5644
02:59:36,432 --> 02:59:38,300
ABOUT YOU OFTEN. THOSE THAT 15 

5645
02:59:38,300 --> 02:59:40,002
MINUTES IT TOOK TO GET FROM 

5646
02:59:40,002 --> 02:59:41,837
BALLARD TO HARBORVIEW. AND 

5647
02:59:41,837 --> 02:59:43,272
FOLKS, IT TAKES A LOT LONGER 

5648
02:59:43,272 --> 02:59:46,942
THAN 15 MINUTES TO GET FROM 

5649
02:59:46,942 --> 02:59:47,543
BALLARD TO HARBORVIEW WITHOUT 

5650
02:59:47,543 --> 02:59:51,180
SIRENS I'LL NEVER FORGET THOSE 

5651
02:59:51,180 --> 02:59:51,747
15 MINUTES. I RECOUNT THOSE 

5652
02:59:51,747 --> 02:59:54,717
STORIES MANY TIMES. IT'S THOSE 

5653
02:59:54,717 --> 02:59:55,918
STORIES ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR 

5654
02:59:55,918 --> 02:59:56,552
SEATTLE CHANNEL, SO I'LL SAVE 

5655
02:59:56,552 --> 02:59:58,654
THEM FOR A PRIVATE, PRIVATE 

5656
02:59:58,654 --> 03:00:00,055
VENUE. BUT I SHARE THIS STORY 

5657
03:00:00,055 --> 03:00:03,526
BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE'RE 

5658
03:00:03,526 --> 03:00:04,860
TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THAT IF WE 

5659
03:00:04,860 --> 03:00:06,462
HAVE STATIONS THAT HAVE TO GO 

5660
03:00:06,462 --> 03:00:10,099
OUT, OR IF WE HAVE TO HAVE 

5661
03:00:10,099 --> 03:00:13,536
REDUCED STAFFING, THAT'S 

5662
03:00:13,536 --> 03:00:17,740
ADDITIONAL TIME. AND THAT'S 

5663
03:00:17,740 --> 03:00:19,608
HIGHER RISK OF SOMEBODY NOT 

5664
03:00:19,608 --> 03:00:21,710
HAVING THAT SECOND CHANCE. WE 

5665
03:00:21,710 --> 03:00:27,750
ARE SNUFFING OUT PEOPLE'S 

5666
03:00:27,750 --> 03:00:29,785
ABILITY TO LIVE A FULFILLING 

5667
03:00:29,785 --> 03:00:31,754
LIFE, TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR 

5668
03:00:31,754 --> 03:00:33,422
COMMUNITY, TO BE GOOD RESIDENTS 

5669
03:00:33,422 --> 03:00:39,261
OF OUR CITY. SO, MYRON, PATRICK,

5670
03:00:39,261 --> 03:00:41,263
THANK YOU. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT 

5671
03:00:41,263 --> 03:00:42,031
THIS, THIS OVERTIME IS ABOUT, 

5672
03:00:42,031 --> 03:00:43,666
YOU KNOW, AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE

5673
03:00:43,666 --> 03:00:45,234
ADDITIONAL RECRUIT CLASSES. BUT 

5674
03:00:45,234 --> 03:00:46,202
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE 

5675
03:00:46,202 --> 03:00:48,437
BEEN BRINGING UP FOR A LONG 

5676
03:00:48,437 --> 03:00:49,905
TIME. I THINK LAST YEAR WE TRIED

5677
03:00:49,905 --> 03:00:51,407
TO GIVE YOU A RECRUIT CLASS THAT

5678
03:00:51,407 --> 03:00:52,808
YOU WERE LIKE, WE'RE NOT QUITE 

5679
03:00:52,808 --> 03:00:55,344
READY FOR. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S

5680
03:00:55,344 --> 03:00:56,812
NOTHING NEW THERE. BUT I BRING 

5681
03:00:56,812 --> 03:01:00,549
THIS UP BECAUSE YESTERDAY WE HAD

5682
03:01:00,549 --> 03:01:02,384
THE BUILDING FIRE WITH EIGHT 

5683
03:01:02,384 --> 03:01:03,953
FIREFIGHTERS INJURED. THE MAN 

5684
03:01:03,953 --> 03:01:05,721
INJURED. TODAY WE'VE HAD TWO 

5685
03:01:05,721 --> 03:01:07,590
FIRES IN BUILDINGS WHILE WE'VE 

5686
03:01:07,590 --> 03:01:09,124
BEEN SITTING IN HERE. THERE WAS 

5687
03:01:09,124 --> 03:01:10,492
AN ACCIDENT ON ON THE 

5688
03:01:10,492 --> 03:01:11,727
INTERSTATE, WHICH IS WHAT ALL 

5689
03:01:11,727 --> 03:01:13,028
THE SIRENS THAT WE JUST HEARD. 

5690
03:01:13,028 --> 03:01:16,398
AND I JUST THINK TO MYSELF, 

5691
03:01:16,398 --> 03:01:18,400
DESPITE WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON

5692
03:01:18,400 --> 03:01:19,368
WITH MINIMUM STAFFING AND THE 

5693
03:01:19,368 --> 03:01:19,969
STAFFING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, 

5694
03:01:19,969 --> 03:01:22,271
BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED LEAVE, IT'S

5695
03:01:22,271 --> 03:01:23,739
A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN 

5696
03:01:23,739 --> 03:01:26,575
AMERICAN CULTURE WHERE WE DON'T

5697
03:01:26,575 --> 03:01:27,576
DOUBLE STAFF POCKETS BECAUSE 

5698
03:01:27,576 --> 03:01:30,913
PEOPLE NEED LEAVE, BUT WE SHOULD

5699
03:01:30,913 --> 03:01:32,615
BE. AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING 

5700
03:01:32,615 --> 03:01:34,850
ABOUT THIS OVERTIME, IT'S NOT 

5701
03:01:34,850 --> 03:01:36,085
TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS.

5702
03:01:36,085 --> 03:01:37,753
IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT MINIMUM 

5703
03:01:37,753 --> 03:01:39,989
STAFFING. IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT

5704
03:01:39,989 --> 03:01:41,490
HOW FAST THAT RIG CAN GET TO 

5705
03:01:41,490 --> 03:01:44,193
YOU. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 

5706
03:01:44,193 --> 03:01:44,860
PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THE FUTURE 

5707
03:01:44,860 --> 03:01:46,462
THAT THEY HAVE AND THE QUALITY 

5708
03:01:46,462 --> 03:01:49,298
OF LIFE THAT THEY HAVE. AND SO 

5709
03:01:49,298 --> 03:01:50,599
THERE'S NOT A QUESTION THERE. 

5710
03:01:50,599 --> 03:01:52,334
IT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT TO 

5711
03:01:52,334 --> 03:01:53,736
BRING IT BACK AROUND TO WHAT DO 

5712
03:01:53,736 --> 03:01:57,840
EACH OF THESE DOLLARS MEAN? AND 

5713
03:01:57,840 --> 03:01:59,608
IN CONTRAST TO ALL OF THE OTHER 

5714
03:01:59,608 --> 03:02:00,843
BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT THE MAYOR 

5715
03:02:00,843 --> 03:02:02,845
HAS PUT INTO THIS BUDGET, THE 

5716
03:02:02,845 --> 03:02:04,446
THREE TOPICS THAT WE'VE TALKED 

5717
03:02:04,446 --> 03:02:05,481
ABOUT TODAY ARE CHARTER 

5718
03:02:05,481 --> 03:02:07,916
RESPONSIBILITIES. IT KIND OF 

5719
03:02:07,916 --> 03:02:12,221
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE ANY 

5720
03:02:12,221 --> 03:02:13,656
OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THE 

5721
03:02:13,656 --> 03:02:16,225
BUDGET, IF YOU CAN'T WALK DOWN 

5722
03:02:16,225 --> 03:02:18,727
THE STREET WITHOUT GETTING SHOT 

5723
03:02:18,727 --> 03:02:20,029
IF YOU CAN'T HAVE A MEDIC SHOW 

5724
03:02:20,029 --> 03:02:23,532
UP TO SAVE YOUR LIFE, IF YOU 

5725
03:02:23,532 --> 03:02:25,167
CAN'T HAVE THE RIGHT RESPONDER 

5726
03:02:25,167 --> 03:02:27,469
RIGHT ON TIME, EVERYTHING ELSE 

5727
03:02:27,469 --> 03:02:28,337
KIND OF DISSIPATES. AND I SAY 

5728
03:02:28,337 --> 03:02:30,306
THAT BECAUSE I WAS SPEAKING TO 

5729
03:02:30,306 --> 03:02:31,907
SOMEBODY YESTERDAY ABOUT SKATE 

5730
03:02:31,907 --> 03:02:33,175
PARK THAT'S OPENING IN TWO 

5731
03:02:33,175 --> 03:02:34,610
WEEKS, AND HER TEN YEAR OLD 

5732
03:02:34,610 --> 03:02:36,679
WANTED TO GO AND SHE WAS LIKE, 

5733
03:02:36,679 --> 03:02:38,047
I, I'D LOVE FOR THEM TO GO, BUT

5734
03:02:38,047 --> 03:02:40,215
I DON'T WANT THEM TO GET SHOT. 

5735
03:02:40,215 --> 03:02:41,617
RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT WE COME 

5736
03:02:41,617 --> 03:02:44,053
BACK TO WITH CHARTER 

5737
03:02:44,053 --> 03:02:45,054
RESPONSIBILITIES. YOU'RE NOT 

5738
03:02:45,054 --> 03:02:46,455
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SORRY, I 

5739
03:02:46,455 --> 03:02:48,590
WENT OFF ON A TANGENT OH MAN, 

5740
03:02:48,590 --> 03:02:50,392
IT'S GOING TO BE 6 P.M. BY THE 

5741
03:02:50,392 --> 03:02:51,794
TIME WE GET OUT OF HERE. I'M 

5742
03:02:51,794 --> 03:02:53,595
KIDDING. I WANT TO COME BACK TO 

5743
03:02:53,595 --> 03:02:58,367
THE LEASH. I AND JUST CHECK IN. 

5744
03:02:58,367 --> 03:02:59,401
I SEE YOU'VE GOT $2 MILLION 

5745
03:02:59,401 --> 03:03:00,869
HERE. IS THAT THE TOTAL COST FOR

5746
03:03:00,869 --> 03:03:03,105
REPAIRS ON THE LEASH? 

5747
03:03:03,105 --> 03:03:05,574
-- I KNOW THE TOTAL COST OF 

5748
03:03:05,574 --> 03:03:06,241
REPAIR IS $3.2 MILLION. AND THIS

5749
03:03:06,241 --> 03:03:09,211
WAS GOING TO BE SPLIT. PROBABLY 

5750
03:03:09,211 --> 03:03:11,380
OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS. OKAY. SO

5751
03:03:11,380 --> 03:03:13,949
BUT THE TOTAL IS ABOUT 

5752
03:03:13,949 --> 03:03:14,516
APPROXIMATELY $3.2 MILLION. 

5753
03:03:14,516 --> 03:03:15,884
-- AND WE'RE USING A SHIPYARD 

5754
03:03:15,884 --> 03:03:19,221
IN INSIDE THE CITY BOUNDARIES. 

5755
03:03:19,221 --> 03:03:20,556
-- YES. IT'S IT'S THERE NOW. I

5756
03:03:20,556 --> 03:03:23,125
BELIEVE IT'S JUST SITTING RIGHT

5757
03:03:23,125 --> 03:03:24,293
NOW. 

5758
03:03:24,293 --> 03:03:25,661
-- I THOUGHT I SAW IT UP AT UP 

5759
03:03:25,661 --> 03:03:27,329
IN FISHERMAN'S TERMINAL. 

5760
03:03:27,329 --> 03:03:28,731
-- YEAH. THAT'S WHERE IT'S 

5761
03:03:28,731 --> 03:03:29,965
SITTING. IT'S OVER IN THAT AREA

5762
03:03:29,965 --> 03:03:31,033
RIGHT NOW. 

5763
03:03:31,033 --> 03:03:31,667
-- OH YEAH. 

5764
03:03:31,667 --> 03:03:33,268
-- BUT IT'S NOT AT STATION 

5765
03:03:33,268 --> 03:03:35,971
FIVE, CORRECT? YEAH. THE CHIEF 

5766
03:03:35,971 --> 03:03:36,605
SEATTLE WAS AT STATION FIVE. SO 

5767
03:03:36,605 --> 03:03:38,273
THIS ONE IS PARKED NEAR 

5768
03:03:38,273 --> 03:03:39,742
FISHERMAN'S TERMINAL. 

5769
03:03:39,742 --> 03:03:41,143
-- OKAY, SO I'M JUST ASKING 

5770
03:03:41,143 --> 03:03:42,044
THAT WHEN WE PUT IT UP INTO A 

5771
03:03:42,044 --> 03:03:43,679
DRY DOCK INTO A SHIPYARD, IF WE 

5772
03:03:43,679 --> 03:03:45,414
USE A SEATTLE BASED SHIPYARD 

5773
03:03:45,414 --> 03:03:46,515
INSTEAD OF OUTSIDE THE CITY, 

5774
03:03:46,515 --> 03:03:49,118
WE'LL GET TAX REVENUE BACK. 

5775
03:03:49,118 --> 03:03:52,154
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. 

5776
03:03:52,154 --> 03:03:52,921
SORRY, I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE, 

5777
03:03:52,921 --> 03:03:53,989
COLLEAGUES, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT 

5778
03:03:53,989 --> 03:03:56,492
KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAVE TWO AND 

5779
03:03:56,492 --> 03:03:57,159
THREE ALARM FIRES, OUR WATER 

5780
03:03:57,159 --> 03:03:58,694
PRESSURE FOR OUR FIRE HYDRANTS 

5781
03:03:58,694 --> 03:04:01,530
CAN START DISSIPATING. AND THE 

5782
03:04:01,530 --> 03:04:04,199
POWER OF FIREBOAT IS TO ENSURE 

5783
03:04:04,199 --> 03:04:05,501
THAT WE HAVE THE WATER PRESSURE 

5784
03:04:05,501 --> 03:04:06,468
THAT WE NEED. WE HAD A THREE 

5785
03:04:06,468 --> 03:04:08,971
ALARM FIRE IN THE BALLARD AREA 

5786
03:04:08,971 --> 03:04:10,773
JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. WATER 

5787
03:04:10,773 --> 03:04:11,407
PRESSURE STARTED DROPPING AND WE

5788
03:04:11,407 --> 03:04:12,274
WERE ABLE TO GET A FIREBOAT 

5789
03:04:12,274 --> 03:04:16,078
RIGHT UP THERE. AND IT'S WHAT 

5790
03:04:16,078 --> 03:04:17,613
SUSTAINED THE ABILITY TO PUT 

5791
03:04:17,613 --> 03:04:18,680
THAT FIRE OUT IN A TIMELY 

5792
03:04:18,680 --> 03:04:21,750
FASHION. AND SO IT'S NOT JUST 

5793
03:04:21,750 --> 03:04:23,685
WATER DEPENDENT USES. WE ARE 

5794
03:04:23,685 --> 03:04:25,454
FIGHTING FIRES ON LAND WITH 

5795
03:04:25,454 --> 03:04:26,989
THESE THESE BOATS. AND SO JUST 

5796
03:04:26,989 --> 03:04:29,691
WANTED TO THANK YOU. THERE. YOU 

5797
03:04:29,691 --> 03:04:31,260
BROUGHT UP THAT IF THESE 

5798
03:04:31,260 --> 03:04:32,294
REDUCTIONS WENT INTO PLACE, WE 

5799
03:04:32,294 --> 03:04:33,762
WOULD BE AT THE SAME REDUCTION 

5800
03:04:33,762 --> 03:04:38,133
AS THE SAME STAFFING AS 2008, 

5801
03:04:38,133 --> 03:04:40,502
WHICH WAS FOUR YEARS AFTER MYRON

5802
03:04:40,502 --> 03:04:41,670
AND PATRICK SAVED MY LIFE. AND 

5803
03:04:41,670 --> 03:04:45,874
THAT WAS A TIME WHEN WE HAD 200 

5804
03:04:45,874 --> 03:04:47,042
THOUSAND FEWER RESIDENTS. SO 

5805
03:04:47,042 --> 03:04:48,777
I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING THIS 

5806
03:04:48,777 --> 03:04:52,481
ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE HERE, AND 

5807
03:04:52,481 --> 03:04:54,049
I'LL END WITH MOMENTUM, BUT 

5808
03:04:54,049 --> 03:04:54,983
I'LL ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE 

5809
03:04:54,983 --> 03:04:56,118
FIRE DISTRICT A LITTLE BIT. I 

5810
03:04:56,118 --> 03:04:57,786
KNOW I MENTIONED IT WHEN KENNY 

5811
03:04:57,786 --> 03:04:58,821
AND THE UNION WAS HERE 

5812
03:04:58,821 --> 03:05:00,389
YESTERDAY. I'LL MENTION IT TO 

5813
03:05:00,389 --> 03:05:01,890
YOU. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT

5814
03:05:01,890 --> 03:05:05,661
OF DETAILS TO WORK OUT. I'M NOT

5815
03:05:05,661 --> 03:05:07,229
PROPOSING A FIRE DISTRICT TODAY,

5816
03:05:07,229 --> 03:05:09,264
BUT I AM MAKING THE STATEMENT ON

5817
03:05:09,264 --> 03:05:10,966
THE RECORD THAT THE BEST WAY TO 

5818
03:05:10,966 --> 03:05:12,000
INSULATE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT 

5819
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:13,669
FROM ANY OF THESE BUDGET 

5820
03:05:13,669 --> 03:05:15,537
CHALLENGES IS IF WE GIVE YOU A 

5821
03:05:15,537 --> 03:05:17,806
DEDICATED SOURCE OF FUNDING, 

5822
03:05:17,806 --> 03:05:18,440
THERE'S A LONGER CONVERSATION 

5823
03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:19,641
ABOUT NOT COLLECTING AS MUCH 

5824
03:05:19,641 --> 03:05:21,577
PROPERTY TAX FOR THE GENERAL 

5825
03:05:21,577 --> 03:05:23,545
FUND TO OFFSET. THAT'S THAT'S 

5826
03:05:23,545 --> 03:05:25,747
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. THERE'S A 

5827
03:05:25,747 --> 03:05:27,516
LOT MORE CONVERSATION. BUT WHEN 

5828
03:05:27,516 --> 03:05:28,183
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S 

5829
03:05:28,183 --> 03:05:28,784
LIVES, THEIR SECOND CHANCES, 

5830
03:05:28,784 --> 03:05:31,720
THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, I THINK 

5831
03:05:31,720 --> 03:05:33,288
THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS 

5832
03:05:33,288 --> 03:05:34,923
TO BE INSULATED. AND WHEN I 

5833
03:05:34,923 --> 03:05:36,325
STARTED GIVING THE EXAMPLES OF 

5834
03:05:36,325 --> 03:05:37,259
LIKE, WHAT THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, 

5835
03:05:37,259 --> 03:05:39,194
TRADE OFFS WERE, I STARTED TO GO

5836
03:05:39,194 --> 03:05:40,462
FOR MURALS. I WAS LIKE, YOU 

5837
03:05:40,462 --> 03:05:42,965
CAN'T ENJOY A MURAL IF YOU'RE 

5838
03:05:42,965 --> 03:05:46,969
DEAD RIGHT? LIKE IF THE FIRE 

5839
03:05:46,969 --> 03:05:47,636
DEPARTMENT HASN'T SAVED YOU OR 

5840
03:05:47,636 --> 03:05:49,404
IF THE OR IF YOU'VE BEEN SHOT 

5841
03:05:49,404 --> 03:05:50,672
OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. BUT THEN 

5842
03:05:50,672 --> 03:05:52,140
I REMEMBERED THAT THE MURALS ARE

5843
03:05:52,140 --> 03:05:53,675
COMING FROM ADMISSION TAX AND WE

5844
03:05:53,675 --> 03:05:55,043
CAN'T LIKE THERE'S NOT A DIRECT

5845
03:05:55,043 --> 03:05:57,880
TRANSFER THERE. RIGHT. AND IT 

5846
03:05:57,880 --> 03:06:00,115
BRINGS UP THIS STATEMENT AND 

5847
03:06:00,115 --> 03:06:01,683
IMPORTANT FACT THAT OF ALL OF 

5848
03:06:01,683 --> 03:06:02,351
THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE TALKING

5849
03:06:02,351 --> 03:06:03,785
ABOUT IN THE BUDGET, THE THINGS 

5850
03:06:03,785 --> 03:06:06,355
THAT DON'T THAT HAVE BUDGET 

5851
03:06:06,355 --> 03:06:08,624
STABILITY YEAR OVER YEAR HAVE 

5852
03:06:08,624 --> 03:06:10,926
FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE 

5853
03:06:10,926 --> 03:06:12,494
DEDICATED TO THEM. AND SO WHEN 

5854
03:06:12,494 --> 03:06:13,462
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE 

5855
03:06:13,462 --> 03:06:14,997
DISTRICT, THAT'S WHAT'S MOST 

5856
03:06:14,997 --> 03:06:16,732
IMPORTANT FOR ME IN THIS 

5857
03:06:16,732 --> 03:06:18,066
CONVERSATION IS THAT THE FIRE 

5858
03:06:18,066 --> 03:06:20,669
DEPARTMENT HAS A DEDICATED AND 

5859
03:06:20,669 --> 03:06:21,803
INSULATED SOURCE OF FUNDING. 

5860
03:06:21,803 --> 03:06:24,306
THAT ASSOCIATION OF WASHINGTON 

5861
03:06:24,306 --> 03:06:25,207
CITIES YESTERDAY. THERE'S NOW 

5862
03:06:25,207 --> 03:06:26,942
BEGINNING TO BE CONVERSATIONS 

5863
03:06:26,942 --> 03:06:29,244
ABOUT DOING THE SAME TYPE OF 

5864
03:06:29,244 --> 03:06:30,879
DISTRICTING FOR POLICE 

5865
03:06:30,879 --> 03:06:31,513
DEPARTMENTS. WE DON'T NEED TO 

5866
03:06:31,513 --> 03:06:33,215
TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT 

5867
03:06:33,215 --> 03:06:35,918
I'M JUST SAYING IT IS BECAUSE 

5868
03:06:35,918 --> 03:06:36,852
THESE TYPES OF SERVICES ARE 

5869
03:06:36,852 --> 03:06:40,455
CRITICAL, EXPENSIVE, AND WE NEED

5870
03:06:40,455 --> 03:06:42,558
TO HAVE DEDICATED INSULATED 

5871
03:06:42,558 --> 03:06:44,226
FUNDING SOURCES FOR THEM. 

5872
03:06:44,226 --> 03:06:45,360
THERE'S NOT A QUESTION THERE 

5873
03:06:45,360 --> 03:06:46,395
THAT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT. 

5874
03:06:46,395 --> 03:06:49,665
I'LL JUST SAY, AGAIN, I'VE 

5875
03:06:49,665 --> 03:06:50,232
WATCHED THE MOMENTUM OF THE 

5876
03:06:50,232 --> 03:06:51,700
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT GROW. 

5877
03:06:51,700 --> 03:06:53,669
WHEN I STARTED HERE AT CITY 

5878
03:06:53,669 --> 03:06:57,539
HALL, AS STAFF, WHEN THERE WAS 

5879
03:06:57,539 --> 03:06:59,007
AN EMERGENCY DOWN ON THIRD AND 

5880
03:06:59,007 --> 03:07:00,842
JAMES, IT WOULD BE A LADDER 

5881
03:07:00,842 --> 03:07:03,979
TRUCK, AN ENGINE, A MEDIC, A 

5882
03:07:03,979 --> 03:07:06,415
COP, AN AMR TO TAKE HIM TO 

5883
03:07:06,415 --> 03:07:08,684
HARBORVIEW, TO HAVE HIM 

5884
03:07:08,684 --> 03:07:09,685
STABILIZED, TO HAVE HIM BACK ON 

5885
03:07:09,685 --> 03:07:11,286
THE CORNER. AND THEN WE REPEATED

5886
03:07:11,286 --> 03:07:14,590
THE CYCLE AGAIN. TODAY WE HAVE 

5887
03:07:14,590 --> 03:07:16,124
HEALTH, ONE THAT HEALTH ONE WITH

5888
03:07:16,124 --> 03:07:18,760
THE TWO MEDICS AND THE SOCIAL 

5889
03:07:18,760 --> 03:07:20,529
WORKER IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT 

5890
03:07:20,529 --> 03:07:21,163
SITUATION DOESN'T HAVE TO 

5891
03:07:21,163 --> 03:07:22,998
HAPPEN ANYMORE. AND THAT 

5892
03:07:22,998 --> 03:07:24,333
MOMENTUM WAS IN 2019 THAT 

5893
03:07:24,333 --> 03:07:25,601
STARTED, AND IT'S BEEN AMAZING 

5894
03:07:25,601 --> 03:07:27,869
TO WATCH IT TURN INTO HEALTH 99 

5895
03:07:27,869 --> 03:07:29,671
AND JUST TO WATCH THAT MOMENTUM 

5896
03:07:29,671 --> 03:07:32,541
CONTINUE TO ROLL, I WANT TO SEE 

5897
03:07:32,541 --> 03:07:34,176
THAT MOMENTUM CONTINUE TO ROLL 

5898
03:07:34,176 --> 03:07:34,643
WITH THE SEATTLE FIRE 

5899
03:07:34,643 --> 03:07:35,310
DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T WANT TO

5900
03:07:35,310 --> 03:07:38,146
SEE US LOSE ANY. SO AGAIN, NOT A

5901
03:07:38,146 --> 03:07:40,082
QUESTION, JUST A STATEMENT. WE 

5902
03:07:40,082 --> 03:07:42,851
ARE AT 410. SO WE ARE KEEPING A.

5903
03:07:42,851 --> 03:07:44,186
WE'RE WE'RE STICKING A LITTLE 

5904
03:07:44,186 --> 03:07:45,520
AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. MIGHT HAVE 

5905
03:07:45,520 --> 03:07:47,789
SUCKED UP SOME TIME THERE. I 

5906
03:07:47,789 --> 03:07:48,624
WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE 

5907
03:07:48,624 --> 03:07:49,825
COMMITTEE TABLE NOW BECAUSE I 

5908
03:07:49,825 --> 03:07:51,426
DON'T HAVE. I'M I'M GOING TO 

5909
03:07:51,426 --> 03:07:52,394
DIG INTO A BUNCH OF THESE 

5910
03:07:52,394 --> 03:07:53,295
QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO DO 

5911
03:07:53,295 --> 03:07:55,197
SO THROUGH SHAREPOINT. THESE 

5912
03:07:55,197 --> 03:07:56,164
WERE THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I

5913
03:07:56,164 --> 03:07:57,132
WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD 

5914
03:07:57,132 --> 03:07:58,367
TODAY. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO 

5915
03:07:58,367 --> 03:08:00,102
TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMITTEE 

5916
03:08:00,102 --> 03:08:00,936
TABLE FOR LAST WORDS, AND THEN 

5917
03:08:00,936 --> 03:08:02,804
WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT 

5918
03:08:02,804 --> 03:08:05,207
OF HOUSEKEEPING, AND THEN WE'LL

5919
03:08:05,207 --> 03:08:05,474
BE DONE. 

5920
03:08:05,474 --> 03:08:06,375
-- I'LL JUST CLOSE. THANK YOU 

5921
03:08:06,375 --> 03:08:09,511
FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE THE

5922
03:08:09,511 --> 03:08:12,047
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE SEATTLE

5923
03:08:12,047 --> 03:08:12,714
FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE. 

5924
03:08:12,714 --> 03:08:14,149
TRICIA ANYTHING. 

5925
03:08:14,149 --> 03:08:14,483
-- THANK YOU. 

5926
03:08:14,483 --> 03:08:15,951
-- THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR 

5927
03:08:15,951 --> 03:08:17,319
SERVICE COLLEAGUES. THAT DOES 

5928
03:08:17,319 --> 03:08:19,554
BRING US TO THE CONCLUSION OF 

5929
03:08:19,554 --> 03:08:21,023
TODAY'S AGENDA. ON MONDAY, WE 

5930
03:08:21,023 --> 03:08:21,990
WILL HAVE HUMAN SERVICES 

5931
03:08:21,990 --> 03:08:24,693
DEPARTMENT IN THE MORNING. 

5932
03:08:24,693 --> 03:08:25,160
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF 

5933
03:08:25,160 --> 03:08:26,595
TRANSPORTATION AND OFFICE OF 

5934
03:08:26,595 --> 03:08:28,230
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE 

5935
03:08:28,230 --> 03:08:30,299
AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD, AYE. 

5936
03:08:30,299 --> 03:08:32,067
I OCCUPIED 40 MINUTES OF 

5937
03:08:32,067 --> 03:08:33,301
COMMITTEE TIME YESTERDAY AND 40 

5938
03:08:33,301 --> 03:08:36,371
MINUTES OF COMMITTEE TIME TODAY.

5939
03:08:36,371 --> 03:08:38,173
IN CASE ANY OF YOU WANT TO TAKE 

5940
03:08:38,173 --> 03:08:41,076
THOSE NOTES AND TRACK IT. I DO 

5941
03:08:41,076 --> 03:08:42,544
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THROUGH 

5942
03:08:42,544 --> 03:08:45,013
THIS BUDGET PROCESS, REFORM OF 

5943
03:08:45,013 --> 03:08:47,015
CONTENT AND PROCESS, WE HAVE 

5944
03:08:47,015 --> 03:08:48,684
BROKEN THESE FOUR DAYS UP WITH 

5945
03:08:48,684 --> 03:08:50,185
THE WEEKEND. AND I THINK THAT 

5946
03:08:50,185 --> 03:08:52,421
THAT'S REALLY IT'S HELPFUL AS 

5947
03:08:52,421 --> 03:08:53,889
COMPARED TO HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN

5948
03:08:53,889 --> 03:08:54,723
THE PAST, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF 

5949
03:08:54,723 --> 03:08:56,625
A A STRAIGHT RUN THROUGH WITH 

5950
03:08:56,625 --> 03:08:59,194
THAT. I'M GOING TO TURN TO 

5951
03:08:59,194 --> 03:09:00,996
DIRECTOR WHITSON AND DIRECTOR 

5952
03:09:00,996 --> 03:09:05,200
PENNUCCI FOR ANY HOUSEKEEPING 

5953
03:09:05,200 --> 03:09:05,634
CLOSING OUT TODAY. 

5954
03:09:05,634 --> 03:09:06,401
-- IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY WEEK

5955
03:09:06,401 --> 03:09:10,272
NEXT WEEK. SO TAKE SOME TIME FOR

5956
03:09:10,272 --> 03:09:10,806
YOURSELVES THIS WEEKEND. 

5957
03:09:10,806 --> 03:09:12,407
-- YEAH 

5958
03:09:12,407 --> 03:09:14,443
-- THANK YOU. APPRECIATE ALL THE

5959
03:09:14,443 --> 03:09:16,878
TIME THIS WEEK. LOOK FORWARD TO 

5960
03:09:16,878 --> 03:09:17,212
THE WEEKEND. 

5961
03:09:17,212 --> 03:09:18,280
-- I'LL CLOSE OUT JUST BY 

5962
03:09:18,280 --> 03:09:19,081
SAYING THERE IS A LOT OF 

5963
03:09:19,081 --> 03:09:21,249
AGREEMENT. THERE WAS A LOT OF 

5964
03:09:21,249 --> 03:09:21,883
DISAGREEMENT TODAY, AND I JUST 

5965
03:09:21,883 --> 03:09:22,951
REALLY APPRECIATE THE 

5966
03:09:22,951 --> 03:09:23,618
RELATIONSHIP THAT WE GET TO HAVE

5967
03:09:23,618 --> 03:09:24,653
WITH YOU, DIRECTOR PENNUCCI, 

5968
03:09:24,653 --> 03:09:27,522
BECAUSE IT IS TRANSPARENT, IT IS

5969
03:09:27,522 --> 03:09:29,358
HONEST, IT IS FACTUAL, AND JUST 

5970
03:09:29,358 --> 03:09:32,661
APPRECIATE IT. GREAT. WITH THAT.

5971
03:09:32,661 --> 03:09:33,328
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS,

5972
03:09:33,328 --> 03:09:36,164
THIS DOES CONCLUDE THE SEPTEMBER

5973
03:09:36,164 --> 03:09:38,934
25th, 2026 SELECT BUDGET 

5974
03:09:38,934 --> 03:09:40,302
COMMITTEE. WE WILL BE BACK IN 

5975
03:09:40,302 --> 03:09:44,873
ORDER ON MONDAY AT 9:30 A.M.. WE

5976
03:09:44,873 --> 03:09:45,574
DO NOT HAVE VERBAL PUBLIC 

5977
03:09:45,574 --> 03:09:47,109
COMMENT, SO WE WILL START THE 

5978
03:09:47,109 --> 03:09:49,845
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT 

5979
03:09:49,845 --> 03:09:51,913
PRESENTATION AT 9:31 A.M.. THANK

5980
03:09:51,913 --> 03:09:54,182
YOU. WE ARE ADJOURNED. 

5981
03:09:54,182 --> 03:10:00,388
-- [MUSIC] 

