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Speaker 1: Wax
screening, here we are.

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The October 14 select

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Budget Committee will
come back to order.

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It is 1:46 P.M. Will the
clerk please call the roll.

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Speaker 2: Councilmember
Saka. Council member Foster?

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Dionne Foster: Here.

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Speaker 2: Council
President Hollingsworth.

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Councilmember Juarez?

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Debora Juarez: Here.

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Speaker 2: Councilmember Kettle?

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Robert Kettle: Here.

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Speaker 2: Council member Lynn?

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Eddie Lin: Here.

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Speaker 2: Council member Rink?

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Alexis Mercedes Rinck: Here.

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Speaker 2: Council member
Ava. Chair Strauss.

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Dan Strauss: Here.

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Speaker 2: Six present.

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Speaker 1: We got seven present
with Councilmember Saka.

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Speaker 2: Thank
you. Seven present.

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Speaker 1: Moving right on in.

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We've got the fourth item of
business before us today.

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Clerk, will you read

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the fourth item into
the record, please.

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Speaker 2: Agenda Item 4,

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Seattle Department
of Transportation

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for briefing and discussion.

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Fantastic central staff analysis

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of the Seattle Department
of Transportation Budget.

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We're joined by Amanda Allen.

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Tracy Ratcliffe has shown
up. Hello. Great to see you.

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We've known you've been
here the whole day

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and Calvin Chow Central staff.

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With that, I'm going
to turn it over to you

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for the full presentation.

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Then we'll turn to
Councilmember Saka

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as chair of the committee
overseeing the department.

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Speaker 1: That's sucks.

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Amanda Allen: Alright,
Amanda Allen Central staff.

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Good afternoon, Council members.

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I hope you got rejuvenated
in your break there.

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We've got a little bit
of ground to cover.

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I saw one shaking of
head. That's not good.

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This budget season is one of
shortfalls and reductions,

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and SDTs 2027 proposed
budget reflects.

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We're going to try to
move the slide forward.

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There we go.

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Great. Reflex overall, almost 7%

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decrease in spending
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the 2026 adopted budget.

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The full impact of the cuts is

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partially obscured by the
assumption of the passage

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of the Seattle Transit
measure and the addition

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of 20.4 million in
appropriations.

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To achieve the reduction,

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the department
proposed a breath of

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cuts across many programs
and many projects,

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both on the operating and on

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the capital side of the house as

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a strategy to try to limit

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the harm to any one
investment area.

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We have been working
to understand

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the impacts of the
changes proposed,

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and the reality is that

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the executive and the
council may need to

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revisit some of these changes

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as the consequences of

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these reductions become
more transparent.

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Focusing on the budget
summary table and starting at

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the top with the operating
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While the operating budget shows

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an overall almost 3% increase,

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some program areas are
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and the extent of
those reductions

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is sometimes obscured by

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baseline changes that
add funding to support

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citywide adjustments
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There were almost $18 million of

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cuts proposed for the operating
programs to help and,

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again, spread
across the programs

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to mitigate the
impacts of those cuts.

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Generally, the reductions were

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trimming non labor spending,

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limiting the use of
consulting contracts,

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reducing preventative or
routine maintenance capacity

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across a variety of programs.

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There were cuts to reduce

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service levels that are
anticipated to slow response,

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extend maintenance intervals,

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and limit preventative care.

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These types of changes can
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mobility, and long
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The operating programs, I'm

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going to focus in on
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First is bridges and structures.

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It's a reduction of 400,000,

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which was offset by

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a much larger reduction

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that this program
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if not for the backfill of $2.5

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million from the new

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King County Transportation
District funding.

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Moving down to the
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BSL, there's a 10% reduction.

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In most instances, cuts in
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minimized by their size with

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services reduced or slowed
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It's difficult to fully

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understand the full impacts of

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the changes as they're
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In some cases, there
were also proposals

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that cut contingent budgets
for emergency services.

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Some notable changes
in this BSL include

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$944,000 reduction in the
maintenance operations program

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that supports Seattle's incident

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response team and supports,

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which is a team that supports

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the removal of hazards
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like a fallen tree or

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potentially a spill that
occurred in the right of way.

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There's also a $637 reduction in

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the street cleaning
services program that would

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result in cleaning services

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decreased in the
Pike Pine Corridor,

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the Convention Center, Pioneer
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There's a 29% or a $1.3

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million reduction for the
pothole repair program.

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This cut could adversely affect

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SDAT's ability to accomplish

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their commitment to a
72 hour response time.

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Continuing to move on.

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we're actually seeing an
increase of almost 5%,

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and that is in the face of
$6.8 million in reductions.

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Again, the fact that

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it's showing an increase
is due to the fact

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that there were these
baseline adjustments

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for citywide standard
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Again, this program would have

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experienced another
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if not offset for offset by
different funding swaps,

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including the realignment
of transportation funds

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with an increase in

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automated traffic
safety camera funds.

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Couple notable changes
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$2.5 million reduction to
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so you go and pay at

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a parking meter using
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Right now, the city absorbs
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and the proposed budget,

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that cost would be passed
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There's also a $1.1 million

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reduction in the street
service maintenance program,

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which is a 49% cut of

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this budget and lowers
service maintenance,

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decreasing STATs capacity to

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conduct preventative street
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There's also a reduction,

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I'll just note of 535,000

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to SDT Spot Improvement program,

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which eliminates all the
general fund that this program

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had received and reduces
their budget significantly,

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so that they think they will be

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more limited in being able to

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rapidly address small
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and respond to
public complaints.

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Moving forward to the
right of way management,

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again, that's a small change.

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Actually, I'm not going
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Now for the bottom part of

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the table, the capital
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The CIPs represent a
six year spending plan.

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While the 2027 to 2032

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proposed CIP reflects
a 15% decrease

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in spending when compared
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this was actually
a planned decline.

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It's noteworthy that the prior

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year's adopted CAP actually

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included less funding for

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2027 than what's
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which is actually 7%

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increased over what we
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If you look on page four
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you'll see there's a
$28 million increase

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for 2027 over what we had

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anticipated previously and
a $79 million increase

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over the 28 prior plan.

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This increase is
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the reprogramming of reductions

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included in the 2026 year
end supplemental ordinance,

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which represents a more
transparent approach

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to capital carryforward
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There are two areas in

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the capital budget
where I want to focus

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your attention on
material changes.

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The first is in the
major maintenance

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and replacement BSL,

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where there's a 5.5% decrease
in spending from 26 levels.

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This decrease was
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and the 2027 budget
actually represents

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a $10 million increase
over the previous plan.

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That is due to
spending allocation or

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reallocation of 10.5 million

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of transportation levy funds.

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Some examples of changes
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is an addition of 3.2 million
for street car repairs,

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only in 2027 and 2028.

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7.1 million is added
to bridges and

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structures to increase
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There are also decreases.

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Notable ones is $1
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from the roads program and

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$570,000 reduction from the
sidewalk maintenance program,

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which is a 6% decrease.

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In the mobility capital BSL
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the table is showing
a 20% decrease in

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27 spending when
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However, the allocation
for this program actually

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increased over what had been

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planned for 2027 by 18 million.

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Some notable changes
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$10.7 million for new
trails and bike paths,

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which is a 32% increase
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a 5.1 million addition

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to corridor intersection
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I will also note there were
some notable decreases,

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which is 3.3 million
reduced from

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the neighborhood
enhancements program and

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600,000 reduced from the
freight mobility program,

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which is a 12% decrease.

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Let's see. I think I'll leave
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Those were the most
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Look at that. We're on slide 2.

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SDA is proposing a
reduction of nine FTE to

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its current thousand
291 FTE count.

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None of the position
proposed for

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abrogation are currently filled.

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Seven of the positions had
been scheduled to sunset.

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They were part of the MV

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Seattle Levy work
which has ramped down.

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Two FT had been

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allocated to support
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and these positions
were never filled

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there since the time
they were added in 2023.

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One thing that's not included in

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this FTE count is
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to maintain the vacancy of

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an additional 2FTE that

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had been intended to support
the Unified Care Team.

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ADOT has shared that,

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given that these positions
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these changes will not change
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nor would affect
their ability to

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provide data analysis or
reporting of the workload.

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You will look forward
to hearing more about

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the Unified care
team changes during

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tomorrow's presentation

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of the Human Services
Department budget.

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But let's not forget to
talk about revenues.

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You'll see a 1% decrease
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Even with this decrease,

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we are still meeting the
proposed floor requirement

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of $53.6 million for
the general fund.

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The unrestricted cumulative
reserve fund is zeroed out,

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from 24 million in
2026 to zero in 2027.

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The MOV Seattle Levy,

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which ended at the end
of 2024 is ramping down,

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and there's no anticipated
funding for 2028.

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The transportation levy is

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recognizing the reallocation
of funding from

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2026 into 2027 in
the 2028 budgets.

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Again, talking about
the realignment

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of funding from the year
end supplemental and

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the realignment of
134.6 million in

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transportation levy
funding coming from

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26 into these budgets
and into the out years.

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The Transportation fund

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shows a decrease of

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almost 34% due to reductions in

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fees and other funds
that make up the source,

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which include
commercial parking tax,

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permit fees, service
charges, and grant funding.

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I'll note that within
the transportation fund,

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this is where we are allocating

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the new King County
transportation district funding

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of 4.7 million.

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Then the payroll expense tax,

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or the Jump Start line,

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you'll see zeroed out
due to the backing out

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of one-time expenditures
that had been in

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STAT's budget last year for

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FIFA World Cup activities and

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Sound Transit 3
project coordination.

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The automated traffic
safety camera fund

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shows a increase of 72%,

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which recognizes the
anticipated revenue from

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the new school zone cameras
that are now installed,

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and also the addition of

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four new locations for
seven new speed cameras.

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On a whole, the revenue from

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those particular
speed cameras is

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anticipated to increase by

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8.2 million in 2027 and by a
further 3.1 million in 2028.

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You'll see there was a
reduction in REET 1.

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This was a planned
change from 26 to

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27 and an additional
reduction in REET II.

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This was a change
that is in response

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to meet target reductions

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for this particular
budget and had

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not been previously anticipated.

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Now we can move on to
policy considerations.

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Traci Ratzliff:
Counselor, do you want to

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have questions about that?

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First part, I want to
just keep going through.

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Amanda Allen: Perfect.

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Traci Ratzliff: Tracy, Reps
of Council Central Staff.

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So moving to policy
consideration number one,

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which has to do with the
transportation funds stability

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and proposed interfund loan.

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As the policy consideration
memos discusses,

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the 27/28 proposed
budget attempts to

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address two issues related
to the transportation fund.

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The first issue relates to

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the transportation fund's
annual budget and the need

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to align annual expenditures
to expected revenues.

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As discussed further
in the memo,

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this is accomplished
by increasing

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several revenue sources,

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the commercial parking
tax and the street use

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permit fees in particular,
that support the fund,

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and also reducing
expenditures in the fund,

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including reductions that begin

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in the year-end supplemental.

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The second issue is the
transportation fund

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has struggled in recent
years to maintain

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a positive daily/monthly
cash balance

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due to several
contributing factors,

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including cash shortfalls driven

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by COVID-related declines in

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parking and transportation
revenues that have

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not rebounded and
stabilized even today.

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Timing delays in the
payments of expenditures

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and the receipt of revenues
and reimbursements,

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and what we mean by that are

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grants that flow
through that fund,

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as well as other expenditures
from our partners,

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lags in the movement of

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department-wide
expenses, in particular,

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payroll and internal service

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costs that first hit the
transportation fund,

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but must then be appropriately

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distributed to the
other SDT funds,

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as well as other
accounting practices.

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An interdepartmental team was
formed by the executive in

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July of 2026 to assess and

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identify the root
causes and develop

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strategies to restore long-term
stability to the fund.

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Attachment one to the
policy consideration memo

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lays out the work
program for this IDT.

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The bulk of 2026 will
be spent identifying

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the causes and then moving
into 2027 and beyond,

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evaluating options and beginning

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implementation to
address the causes.

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This is going to be a multi-year
process of addressing

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these causes for a problem that

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has occurred over
multiple years.

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To address the
short-term cash needs,

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the executive has submitted
a proposed ordinance

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authorizing a 10-year
interfund loan of

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up to $63.5 million to

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deal with this difficult season

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for the transportation fund.

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The proposed interfund loan
is intended to address

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the fund's negative cash
position until it can be

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restored over time
through adjustments to

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administrative cash management
practices and through

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expenditure reductions
that create reserves

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that can help to support
positive cash flow.

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The executive does
not anticipate

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using all of the loan
amount at one time,

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but instead to use it as a
line of credit that they

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tap when they need to put or

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keep the funds' cash
balance positive.

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There are appropriations
in both 2027 and 2028

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of approximately $2.2
million annually

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to support repayments
of this loan.

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The loan is to be repaid
by December 31, 2036.

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The options that you
have as it relates to

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this proposal is one to add

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annual reporting requirements on

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the interfund loan repayments
until the loan is repaid.

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Request a report from the
IDT detailing the causes of

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the transportation
fund's cash balance

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issues and the strategies to

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restore a positive
balance and no change.

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We're. Good.

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Amanda Allen: Capital
Projects selection.

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STAT's approach to the selection

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of and the scope of
capital projects is

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informed by a variety of

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policy documents
adopted by counsel,

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including the comprehensive plan

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and the 20-year Seattle
Transportation Plan.

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In addition, STAT also
considers community feedback,

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considers engineering
limits, the plan goals,

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environmental rules,

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and program budgets to identify
investment priorities.

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Given limited
resources, at times,

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the resulting investment
priorities may not meet

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the expectation of
district stakeholders.

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Council established the
Council District fund

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in the last biennial budget,

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giving council
members the ability

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to direct resources toward

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neighborhood-scale
traffic safety projects.

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The Council District fund was

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proposed as a
one-time investment,

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and funding was not included
beyond 2025 and 2026.

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Options for the
council could be to

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reinstate the district
fund by increasing

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revenues or making commensurate
cuts, or no change.

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Commercial parking tax.

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The mayor has
proposed increasing

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the commercial parking
tax from 14.5% to 17%,

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which would generate $9.3

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million in revenue
for SDOT programs.

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Customers paying for
private parking.

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In addition to
paying the CPT also

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pay for the city's sales tax.

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This proposal for a

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2.5 increase was informed
by economic modeling,

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review of customer behavior,

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and to really understand
the elasticity of demand

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for paid private parking
as prices increase.

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Some options include amending

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the commercial parking tax
increment or no change.

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I have two contextual
policy considerations that

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I'm going to share for which
there will be no options.

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The first is the traffic
enforcement camera expansion.

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Vision Zero and

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multiple traffic safety
experts consistently identify

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speeding as one of the
most significant causes of

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traffic deaths and
serious injury.

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For this reason, SDOT
continues to use

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automated traffic
safety cameras to deter

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speeding and help make
our streets safer,

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as they are a proven
effective method

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to get people to follow
the traffic laws.

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SDOT's 2027 proposed budget
supports installation of

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seven automated traffic
safety cameras at

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four new locations to help

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enforce speed limits
24 hours a day,

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seven days a week.

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Of course, the side
benefit of the cameras is

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the result of new revenues
generated for safety programs.

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And ATSC's revenues are
anticipated to increase by

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9.6 million in 2026,

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from the adopted to the revised,

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and an additional 3.6 million
anticipated for 2027.

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Last one, transportation
funding Task Force.

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In tandem with the 2024
Seattle Transportation Levy,

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which authorized funding for

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citywide transportation
investments.

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The city council adopted two
resolutions that established

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the scope and
responsibilities of

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a transportation
funding task force.

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In September of this year,

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council approved an
additional resolution

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which appointed the
members to the task force.

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The current work of
the task force is

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to understand the
current context,

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and their deliverable
to council is to make

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a final recommendation
December, 2027.

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And so concludes our program.

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Dan Strauss: Thank you
very much. Job well done.

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Councilmember Saka, chair

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of the committee
overseeing the department.

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You are recognized.
Then, colleagues,

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if you want to start
raising your hands now,

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we'll just keep going down the
line. Thanks. Over to you.

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Rob Saka: Thank you,
Chair. Thank you, Amanda,

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Tracy Cow, for your presentation

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today and all the work
that went into it,

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and reviewed all the
policy analysis,

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documentation, and
slide decks today.

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In the context of the broader

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proposed budget,
it's very helpful.

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Really appreciate
the insights here.

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Stabilizing our
transportation system

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matters now more
than ever because

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everyday moments shape how

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people feel safe and

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connected when navigating
our transportation system.

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When sidewalks abruptly end

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or are simply missing in
certain neighborhoods,

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signals feel too short,

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or cars move too fast,

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and pesky potholes
remain unfilled,

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trust in the system erodes.

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Our transportation
fund is strained by

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uneven resources and delays,

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while our Vision Zero
goals and commitments

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remain more urgent
now than ever,

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as gaps in sidewalks,

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bike routes, and safe
crossings continue to persist.

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Now, stabilizing the fund
builds the foundation for

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safer streets and ensures SDOT

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can more effectively and
efficiently fix roads,

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add new sidewalks,
complete bike networks,

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and use proven safety tools,

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whether it's automatic traffic

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safety enforcement
cameras or others.

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That's one of a list of

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40-plus proven safety
countermeasures.

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This moment calls for us to
restore financial health and

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accelerate safety
improvements so

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everyone can move
through our city safely.

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As the committee chair
that oversees SDOT,

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I'm personally deeply concerned

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that council is being
asked to authorize

521
00:27:28,975 --> 00:27:38,620
a 10-year loan of up to $63.5
million, on the one hand.

522
00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:42,280
Well, the proposed
budget also raises

523
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,110
transportation-related costs
and fees, on the other hand,

524
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:51,895
and reduces pothole repair,
transportation studies,

525
00:27:51,895 --> 00:27:54,325
spot improvements,
street cleaning,

526
00:27:54,325 --> 00:27:58,120
preventative maintenance,
who knows what else?

527
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:03,355
I recognize that cash
flow timing challenges

528
00:28:03,355 --> 00:28:07,960
are not necessarily the same
as a structural deficit.

529
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,340
However, borrowing
of this magnitude

530
00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:17,920
cannot become a substitute
for fixing either problem.

531
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,575
My goal here is to protect

532
00:28:20,575 --> 00:28:24,055
essential safety and
maintenance services

533
00:28:24,055 --> 00:28:27,715
while establishing
prudent guardrails,

534
00:28:27,715 --> 00:28:30,190
earlier milestones, and

535
00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:34,000
transparent accountability
that returned

536
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,435
the transportation fund
to a more stable footing.

537
00:28:37,435 --> 00:28:40,810
There's a lot going on with
SDOT's proposed budget.

538
00:28:40,810 --> 00:28:44,305
The transportation fund,
Terra Fund loan issues,

539
00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:49,375
the reduction in staffing,

540
00:28:49,375 --> 00:28:53,155
potentially impacting curious to

541
00:28:53,155 --> 00:28:55,810
learn more later
what the anticipated

542
00:28:55,810 --> 00:28:58,150
impacts on our
ability to deliver on

543
00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:02,545
these various levy
programs and projects.

544
00:29:02,545 --> 00:29:05,830
We recently authorized
an expansion of

545
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:12,190
20 plus additional
people in SDOT, in part,

546
00:29:12,190 --> 00:29:13,870
to make sure that
the department is

547
00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:15,820
well positioned and
doesn't get off to

548
00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:17,980
a slow start when delivering

549
00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:22,975
upon the 2024
voter-approved levy.

550
00:29:22,975 --> 00:29:29,560
There's an increase in the
Seattle Monorail fees.

551
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,145
Hasn't been revisited or raised,

552
00:29:33,145 --> 00:29:35,095
I guess, in about 12 years,

553
00:29:35,095 --> 00:29:38,710
but increasing the
maximum fare amount from,

554
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:40,990
I think, $4 to $7,

555
00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:42,430
I believe, if I'm
recalling correctly.

556
00:29:42,430 --> 00:29:47,005
A lot is going on in the
proposed budget for SDOT.

557
00:29:47,005 --> 00:29:51,460
But against that
backdrop, let me ask.

558
00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:55,705
Rather than granting
the requested

559
00:29:55,705 --> 00:30:00,355
the full 10-year authority
in its entirety now upfront,

560
00:30:00,355 --> 00:30:04,630
could we grant a
smaller initial tranche

561
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:08,260
with additional borrowing
subject to council review?

562
00:30:08,260 --> 00:30:11,370
If so, what forecasting?

563
00:30:11,370 --> 00:30:13,730
Well, I guess, irrespective
of the answer to that,

564
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:16,690
what cash forecasting
draw limits,

565
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:19,790
repayment benchmarks, or

566
00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:21,150
other safeguards could be

567
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:23,790
incorporated into the ordinance?

568
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:29,295
Traci Ratzliff: Well,
in terms of the amount,

569
00:30:29,295 --> 00:30:31,200
SDOT has had a lot of

570
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,150
conversations with the
City Finance Department

571
00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:34,905
about the interfund
loan and what would

572
00:30:34,905 --> 00:30:36,960
be the appropriate level.

573
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,000
As I indicated, they are not

574
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,390
intending to draw down
that entire $63 million.

575
00:30:42,390 --> 00:30:44,700
They will really do what
they need to to keep

576
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:48,075
their cash balance positive
on a day by day basis.

577
00:30:48,075 --> 00:30:52,200
I will tell you that the
end of month balance for

578
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,775
the cash fund for September
was negative $24 million.

579
00:30:56,775 --> 00:31:01,650
The average daily balance
was a negative $41 million.

580
00:31:01,650 --> 00:31:04,590
That is just one data
point and obviously,

581
00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:05,985
these things can fluctuate.

582
00:31:05,985 --> 00:31:07,920
But I think what
you don't want to

583
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320
have happen is for them to have

584
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,550
to come back for

585
00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:13,560
multiple interfund loans because

586
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,225
those have to be
authorized by ordinance.

587
00:31:15,225 --> 00:31:16,920
I think you absolutely can add

588
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,325
more requirements in the
ordinance, about reporting,

589
00:31:20,325 --> 00:31:24,120
about even minimum amounts

590
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,665
that you expect for
them to pay every year.

591
00:31:25,665 --> 00:31:27,900
Again, I told you they
have appropriations

592
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,180
in both the 27 and 28 budget to

593
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,100
pay interest payments on

594
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,100
the loan amount that
they draw down.

595
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,510
I think there is
more that could be

596
00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:38,355
added in in terms of guardrails

597
00:31:38,355 --> 00:31:42,390
in the ordinance to address
some of your concerns.

598
00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:44,070
Dan Strauss: Councilmember
Saka, if I may

599
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:46,800
, I've been doing this today,

600
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,210
the report from the
Debt Management

601
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,070
Advisory Council
meeting this morning,

602
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:52,170
we had a long and
robust conversation

603
00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:54,840
on this point in particular.

604
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,110
I can either go into
detail or I can stay

605
00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:00,990
high level just to
say that working with

606
00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:03,375
the City Budget Office and

607
00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:06,000
the Finance Department we will

608
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,850
be including additional language

609
00:32:08,850 --> 00:32:10,860
regarding repayment
specifically on

610
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:13,470
interest so that it
is scheduled rather

611
00:32:13,470 --> 00:32:18,270
than voluntary because
SDOT did in fact,

612
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:20,475
not repay their
last interfund loan

613
00:32:20,475 --> 00:32:22,680
that was granted
during the pandemic,

614
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,765
as well as it will likely
take 10 years to repay this.

615
00:32:27,765 --> 00:32:30,510
What Tracy just mentioned of

616
00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:32,490
bringing the bills back before

617
00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:35,040
council at a regular cadence

618
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,210
throughout those 10 years

619
00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:38,070
is something that
we will likely do.

620
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:40,185
That's all been
discussed with DMAC

621
00:32:40,185 --> 00:32:41,910
with the City Budget Office,

622
00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:46,800
with the Finance Office and
it's a way for us to help

623
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840
support SDOT while maintaining

624
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,340
the appropriate checks
and balances to

625
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:52,155
make sure that they
are indeed improving.

626
00:32:52,155 --> 00:32:53,910
Sorry, Council
member, back to you.

627
00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:55,290
Rob Saka: Thank you, Chair.

628
00:32:55,290 --> 00:32:58,170
We definitely support that
approach rather than grant

629
00:32:58,170 --> 00:33:04,305
a carte blanche blanket tenure
authority now up front.

630
00:33:04,305 --> 00:33:08,190
In any event, just curious,

631
00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:13,875
Tracy Amanda, based off
Central Staff's review,

632
00:33:13,875 --> 00:33:15,900
how much of the proposed $63.5

633
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:18,105
million authorization reflects

634
00:33:18,105 --> 00:33:21,795
a temporary cash
flow timing issues

635
00:33:21,795 --> 00:33:24,600
versus a structural mismatch

636
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,470
between ongoing revenues
and expenditures?

637
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:31,200
What information is
still missing to

638
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,760
determine the lowest prudent
authorization ceiling?

639
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,810
Traci Ratzliff: I think
as I understand it,

640
00:33:42,810 --> 00:33:44,880
and I have to tell you that
I am new to this issue,

641
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,365
as you all might notice,

642
00:33:46,365 --> 00:33:49,335
not been sitting with
the SDOT budget before.

643
00:33:49,335 --> 00:33:50,970
I have my colleague Cal who

644
00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:52,050
has maybe a little
bit more history.

645
00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:54,430
But as I understand

646
00:33:56,660 --> 00:33:59,100
the cash balance issue is

647
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,960
fundamentally a cash
balance problem

648
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,700
in terms of when
expenditures come into

649
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:04,710
that fund and then when
revenues come in to pay it.

650
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:07,230
However, in the
past this fund has

651
00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:10,620
had a reserve that has
helped them buffer

652
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:12,240
through what might be

653
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,040
those mismatches in terms
of the expenditures

654
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,510
coming in and revenues coming

655
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:17,775
in or expenditures being
paid and revenues coming in.

656
00:34:17,775 --> 00:34:19,170
That reserve has been spun down.

657
00:34:19,170 --> 00:34:20,760
There is no reserve left.

658
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,850
This proposed budget includes
a financial plan that

659
00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:26,880
begins to show a rebuilding
of a reserve for this fund.

660
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,530
I think that is very prudent,

661
00:34:28,530 --> 00:34:30,075
as I understand
it and looking at

662
00:34:30,075 --> 00:34:31,740
the revenue picture
and the instability

663
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:33,390
of some of these revenue
sources that we don't

664
00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:35,610
know where the end is on this.

665
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:39,465
I think it is not
an imprudent act to

666
00:34:39,465 --> 00:34:40,920
establish a reserve for

667
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,175
this fund to provide just
a little bit more buffer

668
00:34:44,175 --> 00:34:45,960
while they also look at what are

669
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,230
the day to day cash management
accounting practices

670
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:50,760
that they have that
they can use to

671
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,500
try to correct some
of this day to

672
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:54,270
day imbalance that
happens between

673
00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:56,955
expenditures and revenue and
the balance of that fund.

674
00:34:56,955 --> 00:34:59,085
Cal I don't know if you want
to add anything to that?

675
00:34:59,085 --> 00:35:02,430
Calvin Chow: Yeah, I
think from my perspective

676
00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:07,785
Councilmemeber when you
mentioned a structural problem,

677
00:35:07,785 --> 00:35:09,510
I mean, that really
came to light

678
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:12,285
with the pandemic
and revenues fell,

679
00:35:12,285 --> 00:35:14,160
and they didn't
really come back or

680
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,090
at least they
didn't come back as

681
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:16,680
fast as people had hoped.

682
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,070
The expectations continued.

683
00:35:19,070 --> 00:35:21,230
We have a structural
imbalance there.

684
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:24,470
To my mind, that is largely
part of what the work of

685
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:26,180
the Transportation
Revenue Task Force

686
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:27,680
is intended to work on.

687
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,585
What are our priorities
supposed to be?

688
00:35:29,585 --> 00:35:31,100
What are the funding
sources we should be

689
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,490
using and how is that aligned?

690
00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:35,370
This issue is coming to a head

691
00:35:35,370 --> 00:35:38,040
this year in part because of

692
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,260
accounting measures that we

693
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:43,050
use the Transportation
Fund to clear accounts,

694
00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:46,350
to basically run the department.

695
00:35:46,350 --> 00:35:49,785
That's what has been running
in negative and causing

696
00:35:49,785 --> 00:35:51,930
essentially an accounting
problem as much as

697
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:54,960
anything, necessitating
this loan.

698
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,450
To the extent that
both those things are

699
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:59,295
drawing on the same fund,
they're interactive,

700
00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:01,530
but I think they are kind
of two different bodies

701
00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:03,990
of analysis that need to happen.

702
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:06,030
The IDT that's being proposed is

703
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:08,490
really looking at a lot of
those internal controls,

704
00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:11,010
looking about what a
prudent reserve would be,

705
00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:12,750
looking at what type

706
00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:14,370
of process of
improvements can reduce

707
00:36:14,370 --> 00:36:16,410
the strain on the
Transportation Fund

708
00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:18,855
from the accounting perspective.

709
00:36:18,855 --> 00:36:22,710
But that isn't necessarily
going to get you to, frankly,

710
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:24,570
the issue of do

711
00:36:24,570 --> 00:36:26,640
we have to curb our
expenses in the future?

712
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,050
Do we have to look
for new revenues?

713
00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:29,760
That is to my mind,

714
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,195
a bit more from the
revenue task force.

715
00:36:33,195 --> 00:36:35,595
But for this year,

716
00:36:35,595 --> 00:36:37,755
those things combined to hit

717
00:36:37,755 --> 00:36:40,050
the Transportation Fund's
bottom line and they

718
00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:42,825
ended up with what is
really a best guess

719
00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:45,030
about the highest fluctuation of

720
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:47,520
outstanding loan that they would

721
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,790
need to be able to
maintain a cash balance.

722
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:53,380
Rob Saka: Thank you for that.

723
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,045
The Transportation
Funding Task Force,

724
00:37:00,045 --> 00:37:03,870
it was born out of the recognition
two or three years ago

725
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:07,905
now that as generous of

726
00:37:07,905 --> 00:37:17,100
a levy as it was at the time
because of the arbitrary,

727
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:23,970
capricious and Tim I
mean honoring 1% cap on

728
00:37:23,970 --> 00:37:25,920
our ability to raise

729
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,920
property taxes imposed by

730
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,530
the state as generous
as it was at the time.

731
00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:33,180
Some advocates at the
time were calling for

732
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:35,250
a $23 billion plus levy.

733
00:37:35,250 --> 00:37:37,230
Even if we did that,

734
00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:41,130
we still couldn't
fund the need for

735
00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:46,635
fulfilling our commitment
to build more sidewalks,

736
00:37:46,635 --> 00:37:49,260
make stronger faster,
more urgent progress on

737
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:52,425
closing out the 27%
missing sidewalk network,

738
00:37:52,425 --> 00:37:55,245
making sure all of our roads and

739
00:37:55,245 --> 00:37:56,640
the pavement conditions are in

740
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,710
good serviceable working order,

741
00:37:58,710 --> 00:38:00,750
better than the overall
poor state they

742
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:03,165
are today because of
lack of investment,

743
00:38:03,165 --> 00:38:04,485
not because of the work,

744
00:38:04,485 --> 00:38:07,815
and then maintaining
our bridges,

745
00:38:07,815 --> 00:38:09,150
which is really important as

746
00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:10,470
a council member that represents

747
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:13,290
West Seattle know
what it's like to be

748
00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:16,770
without a major lifeline

749
00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:20,590
to the rest of the
region, not to the city.

750
00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:26,175
Now that work now here we are
with these current issues,

751
00:38:26,175 --> 00:38:27,930
that the work of

752
00:38:27,930 --> 00:38:31,005
the Transportation
Funding Task Force

753
00:38:31,005 --> 00:38:34,410
is taking on renewed
urgency and importance.

754
00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:38,610
We authorized the membership
a few months ago,

755
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:43,150
and really appreciate
the volunteers

756
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,820
stepping up to lead here.

757
00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:49,710
Important now more than ever.

758
00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:53,290
Next question pertains to

759
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,290
impacts of some of
these reductions.

760
00:38:58,290 --> 00:39:01,080
The executive is proposing
significant reductions in

761
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,610
core maintenance
functions including

762
00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:04,080
cuts to pothole repair,

763
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,580
street surface maintenance,
spot improvements,

764
00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:08,975
transportation studies,
and street cleaning,

765
00:39:08,975 --> 00:39:11,780
which may result in

766
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:15,850
slower response times and
degraded safety conditions.

767
00:39:15,850 --> 00:39:18,435
Of these specifically listed

768
00:39:18,435 --> 00:39:21,765
maintenance functions
within SDOT,

769
00:39:21,765 --> 00:39:25,050
which propose operating
reductions present

770
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:29,070
the greatest risk in your
assessment to safety?

771
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:32,130
Risk to asset peservation,

772
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:37,690
risk to just fundamental
constituent responsiveness.

773
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:41,370
Amanda Allen: I think it
was Ellie Panuci that

774
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:43,620
said there's something in

775
00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:45,840
this budget for
everyone to hate.

776
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,610
I think there are many changes.

777
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:55,695
The changes as I'm reading them,

778
00:39:55,695 --> 00:40:00,390
either are ones that
they found a way to do

779
00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:02,910
a fund swap or

780
00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:06,630
ones where they are really
looking to minimize the harm.

781
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:11,370
They're extending these
timelines, bridge inspections,

782
00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:13,860
for example, in some cases are

783
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:17,440
going to be extended from
two years to three years.

784
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:20,625
As you mentioned, potholes

785
00:40:20,625 --> 00:40:23,865
are not going to be
filled as quickly.

786
00:40:23,865 --> 00:40:26,550
I don't know that
there's any one change

787
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:28,530
that I can identify.

788
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:29,730
I think it really depends on

789
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:31,350
the council's priorities about

790
00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:34,180
how you want the
funding to be spent.

791
00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:36,240
Calvin Chow: If I
could, too, I mean,

792
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,240
the strategy appears
to be in the face

793
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:43,650
of reduced available resources
to spread that around.

794
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:46,800
If there are specific items

795
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,090
of concern, we can look at that.

796
00:40:48,090 --> 00:40:49,440
But right now a lot of it is

797
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,180
we know the amount
that they've shifted.

798
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,685
We know kind of what
percentage that looks like,

799
00:40:53,685 --> 00:40:56,565
but we don't know how
to turn that into

800
00:40:56,565 --> 00:40:58,410
a service level impact

801
00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:00,765
without sort of following
up with the department.

802
00:41:00,765 --> 00:41:03,270
Rob Saka: Thank you.
Definitely be interested in

803
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:05,670
following up with the
department on this

804
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:08,610
and concerned about all
those three functional areas

805
00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:11,415
that I mentioned impacts
the risk to safety,

806
00:41:11,415 --> 00:41:14,040
asset preservation, and then
constituent responsiveness.

807
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,575
But really in that order,

808
00:41:19,575 --> 00:41:22,035
and I put safety at the top.

809
00:41:22,035 --> 00:41:24,600
Individually, our
ability to repair

810
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,040
potholes or fund
transportation studies

811
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,720
may or may not impact.

812
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,310
Have a material impact,

813
00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:35,760
I'll say, on safety.

814
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,370
But collectively, it might.

815
00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:39,570
That's what I'd be interested in

816
00:41:39,570 --> 00:41:41,640
learning more about.
Final question.

817
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,690
Thank you, Chair. As was noted,

818
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:47,970
the executive does not
anticipate completing

819
00:41:47,970 --> 00:41:51,960
the transportation funding
review until fall of 2027,

820
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,955
so about a year from now.

821
00:41:53,955 --> 00:41:57,195
Curious to better understand
which specific remedies

822
00:41:57,195 --> 00:41:58,395
in the work plan,

823
00:41:58,395 --> 00:42:01,875
including more frequent
interfund settlements,

824
00:42:01,875 --> 00:42:06,975
direct allocation of
department wide costs,

825
00:42:06,975 --> 00:42:09,240
faster reimbursement,
processing,

826
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,480
and revised overhead practices

827
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,110
could reasonably be implemented
or at least tested,

828
00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:19,600
piloted, whatever
earlier in 2027.

829
00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:24,330
Traci Ratzliff: According to
the work program for the IDT,

830
00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:25,935
which I think is what
you're talking about,

831
00:42:25,935 --> 00:42:28,005
the Transportation Fund IDT,

832
00:42:28,005 --> 00:42:30,330
much of 2026 is
really going to be

833
00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:32,805
about issue
identification or causes,

834
00:42:32,805 --> 00:42:35,355
trying to get a really good
sense on the causes of

835
00:42:35,355 --> 00:42:37,110
the cash balance
to the extent that

836
00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:39,360
those are related to
accounting practices.

837
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,170
2027 and beyond is when
they really are looking

838
00:42:43,170 --> 00:42:45,450
at identifying what the options

839
00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:48,480
are and solutions, and
then implementing.

840
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,360
I can ask them when they
think they might be able

841
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,530
to implement some of these
potential solutions,

842
00:42:55,530 --> 00:42:58,935
but I'm not sure they've
identified fully all the causes,

843
00:42:58,935 --> 00:43:00,540
and then the solutions just to

844
00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:03,330
come after the causes
have been identified,

845
00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:04,530
not that they don't
have some sense about

846
00:43:04,530 --> 00:43:05,715
that, but relative sense.

847
00:43:05,715 --> 00:43:07,650
I can check with them to
see what they think might

848
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:10,185
be doable in 2027.

849
00:43:10,185 --> 00:43:11,940
Calvin Chow: I'd
add that some of

850
00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:14,530
the things that you
just mentioned,

851
00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:17,565
require that we do the
budget differently.

852
00:43:17,565 --> 00:43:19,500
I think the next opportunity to

853
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:22,575
actually effectuate that
would be next year's budget.

854
00:43:22,575 --> 00:43:24,660
We aren't going to
be able to direct

855
00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:26,835
appropriate without giving
them the direct appropriation.

856
00:43:26,835 --> 00:43:28,320
There's a potential
that they can come

857
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,060
forward with some changes
in a supplemental,

858
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:32,430
but I think it's more likely
to do it all over again

859
00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:36,130
for the next budget cycle.

860
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:39,870
Rob Saka: Thank you for
that. No further questions

861
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:41,265
or comments, Mr. Chair.

862
00:43:41,265 --> 00:43:42,855
Dan Strauss: Thank you,
Councilmember Saka.

863
00:43:42,855 --> 00:43:44,190
I've got Councilmember Kettle,

864
00:43:44,190 --> 00:43:46,365
Councilmember Rivera, and
Councilmember Juarez.

865
00:43:46,365 --> 00:43:47,820
Over to you,
Councilmember Kettle.

866
00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:49,710
Robert Kettle: Thank
you, Chair. Thank you,

867
00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:52,905
Miss Allen, Miss Matiff
and Deputy Director Chou.

868
00:43:52,905 --> 00:43:55,380
Thank you for being here and

869
00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:58,065
to work to include the
central staff memo.

870
00:43:58,065 --> 00:44:00,015
I know we focus
on the briefings,

871
00:44:00,015 --> 00:44:02,085
but I appreciate, for example,

872
00:44:02,085 --> 00:44:04,350
the central staff memo

873
00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:07,780
that I have up today
here right now.

874
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,880
Wanted to start not to rehearse

875
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,590
the entire Unified Care Team

876
00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:14,865
discussion from this morning,

877
00:44:14,865 --> 00:44:18,030
but to highlight as

878
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:20,085
listed here in the
central staff memo,

879
00:44:20,085 --> 00:44:26,650
the Clean Seattle
Program and its impacts.

880
00:44:27,590 --> 00:44:30,930
In the memo it said, "Would
not change the team's

881
00:44:30,930 --> 00:44:33,495
response times" because
they haven't been filled.

882
00:44:33,495 --> 00:44:36,450
Could one also add a
sentence afterwards,

883
00:44:36,450 --> 00:44:38,340
"Nor would it improve

884
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:40,980
the response times by not
filling the positions."

885
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:44,175
Could we add that
sentence afterwards?

886
00:44:44,175 --> 00:44:48,390
Amanda Allen: That would
be accurate. For sure.

887
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:51,240
Robert Kettle: I bring
this up because as we'll

888
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,310
see in other parts of the
budget, whether it's parks,

889
00:44:53,310 --> 00:44:55,350
transportation, other areas,

890
00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:58,860
as it relates to this
important mission area,

891
00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:00,180
there's that drip, drip,

892
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:02,115
drip of decisions that

893
00:45:02,115 --> 00:45:04,590
negatively impact the
ability to improve

894
00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:07,290
our neighborhoods under
that mission set of

895
00:45:07,290 --> 00:45:08,580
the Unified Care Team on

896
00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:11,325
the streets of these
neighborhoods.

897
00:45:11,325 --> 00:45:13,650
Tied to that, too,

898
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:15,810
on page three, just above it,

899
00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:18,705
is the Street Cleaning
Services Program,

900
00:45:18,705 --> 00:45:22,210
which is going to cut 7%.

901
00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:27,360
It's interesting because
earlier this year,

902
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,470
we had a press conference just
outside these doors here.

903
00:45:31,470 --> 00:45:33,855
It was about North Aurora.

904
00:45:33,855 --> 00:45:36,060
The question I got as part of

905
00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:39,165
that press conference
is, "What do you think?"

906
00:45:39,165 --> 00:45:40,320
I said that I didn't really have

907
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,720
any confidence in the city to

908
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,360
really change where
we are related to

909
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,840
that chronic problem
of North Aurora.

910
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,975
Another area that tied to that,

911
00:45:51,975 --> 00:45:53,970
and that was part of my remarks

912
00:45:53,970 --> 00:45:56,595
that day was Little Saigon.

913
00:45:56,595 --> 00:46:00,450
Little Saigon has just
finished its 90 day and I'm

914
00:46:00,450 --> 00:46:04,680
hearing that things
haven't changed.

915
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,980
I see here that Little Saigon is

916
00:46:07,980 --> 00:46:12,120
part of the cut in terms
of cleaning services.

917
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,400
In terms of the public
safety posture of

918
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,860
our streets and Little
Saigon being one of

919
00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:21,405
the main areas, this
is a focus area.

920
00:46:21,405 --> 00:46:24,390
We're gonna add more street
cops. We're gonna clean.

921
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:27,090
Here, the budget is showing that

922
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:29,130
Little Saigon is going to be

923
00:46:29,130 --> 00:46:32,535
impacted by a reduction
of cleaning services.

924
00:46:32,535 --> 00:46:34,740
Is there any more detail on

925
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:38,170
that that was given
from the executive?

926
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,310
Amanda Allen: I don't have
any additional details,

927
00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:45,075
and I'm happy to look for more.

928
00:46:45,075 --> 00:46:47,970
Do you have particular areas

929
00:46:47,970 --> 00:46:50,235
that you'd like us to focus on?

930
00:46:50,235 --> 00:46:51,600
Robert Kettle: Well, it goes

931
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,685
to the comprehensive
approach angle.

932
00:46:56,685 --> 00:47:00,330
Like when we do have these,
this is in partnership,

933
00:47:00,330 --> 00:47:04,380
and I recognize this is the
executives' piece here,

934
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:06,915
but oh, we're going to do
this on Little Saigon.

935
00:47:06,915 --> 00:47:08,475
We're going to do
this on North Ror.

936
00:47:08,475 --> 00:47:10,785
Our streets are problematic.

937
00:47:10,785 --> 00:47:12,885
Then we're going to
have this 90-day,

938
00:47:12,885 --> 00:47:16,180
and then 90 days comes and goes.

939
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:20,370
But on top of that, we have
these budget decisions.

940
00:47:20,370 --> 00:47:22,830
I said earlier, we have
these inflection points.

941
00:47:22,830 --> 00:47:24,855
Bit of Seattle was
an inflection point.

942
00:47:24,855 --> 00:47:26,550
The removal of Chief Barnes and

943
00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:29,295
now the search for a new
chief is an inflection point.

944
00:47:29,295 --> 00:47:31,590
The biggest inflection
point of all is the budget,

945
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:34,470
because this is where we
see what is happening.

946
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:36,090
As I said this morning,

947
00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:39,000
this is the public
safety side of things.

948
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,025
This is the unfunded budget.

949
00:47:41,025 --> 00:47:42,900
This is another example where

950
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:44,355
we're seeing this unfunding,

951
00:47:44,355 --> 00:47:46,665
and this has an impact
on Little Saigon.

952
00:47:46,665 --> 00:47:48,480
I have no question, except maybe

953
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,100
the executive can
explain how does this

954
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:54,135
help get us to a solution
on Little Saigon.

955
00:47:54,135 --> 00:47:56,100
I would argue that it doesn't.

956
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:57,120
I guess that's a little bit of

957
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,165
a rhetorical question for that.

958
00:48:00,165 --> 00:48:03,510
The other point here
tied to these, too,

959
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:05,730
is that we have this
relationship where

960
00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:08,055
we do the public-private
partnerships.

961
00:48:08,055 --> 00:48:10,920
We have the DSA, the
mid ambassador program.

962
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,810
I was just at the C Star,

963
00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:16,560
which is that public safety
hub, as they call it,

964
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,805
at the Convention Center,

965
00:48:17,805 --> 00:48:19,050
because it mentions here on

966
00:48:19,050 --> 00:48:20,805
the same topic the

967
00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:23,745
Convention Center the
Pipe Pine Corridor.

968
00:48:23,745 --> 00:48:25,695
In my own district.

969
00:48:25,695 --> 00:48:27,570
We're trying to
improve things in

970
00:48:27,570 --> 00:48:29,940
this public-private
partnership, again,

971
00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:31,260
with the Mid Ambassador program,

972
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:33,510
those guys do great
pieces because I can

973
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:35,895
take you to Pike and First.

974
00:48:35,895 --> 00:48:37,620
If you're there at midnight,

975
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:38,835
two, three, four, five,

976
00:48:38,835 --> 00:48:42,450
it is incredible,
incredibly sad.

977
00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:44,160
Then the mid-ambassadors
come in;

978
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,055
next thing you know, at 8:39,
oh, everything's great.

979
00:48:47,055 --> 00:48:49,095
Further up the quarter

980
00:48:49,095 --> 00:48:50,940
as we go to the Convention
Center and beyond

981
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:55,210
into into Cap Hill.

982
00:48:55,610 --> 00:48:58,560
What are we saying
to our partners?

983
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,105
We're trying to have

984
00:49:00,105 --> 00:49:01,980
these private partners improve

985
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:03,330
what's happening on our streets,

986
00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:06,855
and at the same time,
we're having cuts.

987
00:49:06,855 --> 00:49:10,545
What is the message the
executive is sending

988
00:49:10,545 --> 00:49:12,930
by reducing Edot's ability

989
00:49:12,930 --> 00:49:15,970
to participate in
that partnership?

990
00:49:16,310 --> 00:49:20,325
Again, technically
rhetorical questions.

991
00:49:20,325 --> 00:49:22,350
But I know Upstairs is watching,

992
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:24,810
so they can come in and
answer at some point.

993
00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:27,930
But it's an important point
that nobody's talking about,

994
00:49:27,930 --> 00:49:29,460
but I think we should talk about

995
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:31,140
it from a public
policy point of view.

996
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:32,430
Hey, we're embarking on

997
00:49:32,430 --> 00:49:35,710
all these public-private
partnerships efforts.

998
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,075
Important as it relates
to our streets,

999
00:49:39,075 --> 00:49:46,020
the state's role in
public safety here.

1000
00:49:46,020 --> 00:49:49,860
I've said this before,
switching subjects,

1001
00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:52,980
the automatic traffic
safety cameras.

1002
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:54,930
Important piece.

1003
00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:58,590
By the way, this has come
up: transportation cameras.

1004
00:49:58,590 --> 00:50:00,270
There's only about
100 that have been

1005
00:50:00,270 --> 00:50:02,355
connected into the
Real-Time Crime Center.

1006
00:50:02,355 --> 00:50:04,140
The non-public ones
are not part of it,

1007
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:05,790
partly because the
cameras weren't really

1008
00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:08,055
suited for the
real-time crime center.

1009
00:50:08,055 --> 00:50:10,650
That is, there was a lot
of reporting on that,

1010
00:50:10,650 --> 00:50:13,365
and a lot of that
reporting was off base.

1011
00:50:13,365 --> 00:50:15,810
It wasn't baked
enough to be frank.

1012
00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:19,620
But it but the OIG report

1013
00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:21,990
does highlight that we
have to do more work,

1014
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:26,040
and the whole issue of
STAT cameras is important.

1015
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,660
That's something that
we're going to look at in

1016
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:28,830
the public safety committee in

1017
00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:30,690
partnership with my vice chair,

1018
00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:32,250
who chairs transportation,

1019
00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:35,550
to ensure that those T's are
crossed and I's are dotted.

1020
00:50:35,550 --> 00:50:37,650
But in terms of

1021
00:50:37,650 --> 00:50:41,355
the automatic traffic
safety cameras,

1022
00:50:41,355 --> 00:50:42,690
I think this is great.

1023
00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:44,490
My only concern is, again,

1024
00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:47,160
this doesn't really fall
to the STAT portfolio,

1025
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,995
but what happens to
Seattle Municipal Court?

1026
00:50:49,995 --> 00:50:52,515
Because it's like SDCI.

1027
00:50:52,515 --> 00:50:55,230
They're going to be in
a problematic position

1028
00:50:55,230 --> 00:50:58,215
because they're anticipating
money coming in,

1029
00:50:58,215 --> 00:50:59,550
and there may be a flood at

1030
00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:01,080
the beginning, and
then it trails off,

1031
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,280
and they may be in

1032
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,470
the SDCI in terms of

1033
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:06,870
the permits and so
forth, that process.

1034
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:09,315
Colleagues, I'm just
highlighting this as

1035
00:51:09,315 --> 00:51:12,090
a topic that we should be

1036
00:51:12,090 --> 00:51:13,530
considering and
thinking about or

1037
00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:15,750
asking questions
of the executive.

1038
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:18,330
Um, another area of

1039
00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:21,150
this presentation or the memo

1040
00:51:21,150 --> 00:51:23,625
is the Council District Fund.

1041
00:51:23,625 --> 00:51:25,500
I think this is a great program

1042
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:30,130
that my colleague put together.

1043
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:33,695
I don't know, perhaps our
EDOT friends would say,

1044
00:51:33,695 --> 00:51:36,215
because it gives a little
different look angle.

1045
00:51:36,215 --> 00:51:37,910
All my projects within

1046
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:40,450
the district fund were
all vision zero projects,

1047
00:51:40,450 --> 00:51:44,250
whether it's in Uptown or
Queen Anne or Magnolia;

1048
00:51:44,250 --> 00:51:46,350
I would argue that they were

1049
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:49,035
positive in terms of
what EDOT was doing

1050
00:51:49,035 --> 00:51:54,450
as respects to traffic
safety, pedestrian safety.

1051
00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:56,445
I know there's a piece here to

1052
00:51:56,445 --> 00:51:57,810
they've zeroed it
out because it's

1053
00:51:57,810 --> 00:52:00,130
quote-unquote one-time spending.

1054
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,990
again, generally, I appreciate
what Director Pruccis

1055
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:07,380
doing from a budgeting
perspective.

1056
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:09,720
But this is an area
where I think we've had

1057
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,555
a lot of positive impacts.

1058
00:52:12,555 --> 00:52:15,705
I think for District
seven, I could say that.

1059
00:52:15,705 --> 00:52:18,675
I think when these projects
are going to be put in,

1060
00:52:18,675 --> 00:52:20,700
they're going to be
like, This is great in

1061
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:23,385
terms of what we're trying to
do in these neighborhoods.

1062
00:52:23,385 --> 00:52:26,895
That is a key area.

1063
00:52:26,895 --> 00:52:29,370
I just wanted to highlight that.

1064
00:52:29,370 --> 00:52:31,500
Another piece in here, too,

1065
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:37,215
was, well, before going
to the Capital Program,

1066
00:52:37,215 --> 00:52:40,515
the South Lake Union streetcar,

1067
00:52:40,515 --> 00:52:48,930
I had last week a budget
listening office hours,

1068
00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:50,865
if you will, in
South Lake Union.

1069
00:52:50,865 --> 00:52:52,260
They came up. They had a lot of

1070
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:54,255
questions about the South
Lake Union Streetcar.

1071
00:52:54,255 --> 00:52:56,400
I know it's pretty
controversial topic,

1072
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,890
and it's tied in as
well with ST three,

1073
00:52:58,890 --> 00:53:02,025
four, whatever ends
up being, as well.

1074
00:53:02,025 --> 00:53:04,500
But they had some ideas
in terms of how can they

1075
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:07,200
use the South Lake Union
Streetcar to better

1076
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,695
the neighborhood of
South Lake Union

1077
00:53:10,695 --> 00:53:14,370
additional greater
downtown neighborhood,

1078
00:53:14,370 --> 00:53:16,500
a center of activity,

1079
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:20,550
by the way, in a generally
better public safety posture.

1080
00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:22,770
One of the points
that was raised was

1081
00:53:22,770 --> 00:53:25,335
: can we learn lessons
of the monorail,

1082
00:53:25,335 --> 00:53:27,270
particularly as the
Monorail is now used,

1083
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:29,565
like with the crack in and
climate pledge and so forth.

1084
00:53:29,565 --> 00:53:31,590
Are there things that
we could do with

1085
00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:35,685
the South Lake Union Streetcar
similarly to the Monorail?

1086
00:53:35,685 --> 00:53:37,155
I don't have the answer to that,

1087
00:53:37,155 --> 00:53:39,630
but I just noted the money

1088
00:53:39,630 --> 00:53:42,120
that we are spending on the
South Lake Union Streetcar,

1089
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,300
which is arguably not a really
good return on investment.

1090
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,520
But if we were to look at
other opportunities and

1091
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,410
maybe piggyback off the
Monorail experience,

1092
00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:53,580
recent experience.

1093
00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:54,780
I think we could maybe find

1094
00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:56,550
some other opportunities for

1095
00:53:56,550 --> 00:53:57,750
the South Lake Union Streetcar,

1096
00:53:57,750 --> 00:54:01,395
in terms of increasing
ridership and so forth.

1097
00:54:01,395 --> 00:54:04,990
Chair, just one last thing,

1098
00:54:05,180 --> 00:54:07,545
as I noted before,

1099
00:54:07,545 --> 00:54:08,910
on the Capitol program,

1100
00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:10,275
bridges are very important.

1101
00:54:10,275 --> 00:54:11,715
The Magnolia Bridge,

1102
00:54:11,715 --> 00:54:13,020
both the repair, plus

1103
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:14,580
figuring out what we're
going to do with that,

1104
00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:17,385
and tied to that is the
emergency access connecting

1105
00:54:17,385 --> 00:54:21,000
southern Magnolia to
the Marina Inter Bay

1106
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,515
and then, therefore, the city.

1107
00:54:22,515 --> 00:54:25,365
Super important to work on that.

1108
00:54:25,365 --> 00:54:27,870
In one area that falls under

1109
00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:33,210
my maritime strategic priority
is the freight program.

1110
00:54:33,210 --> 00:54:34,530
I know it's a small.

1111
00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:36,420
Well, it could be
considered small because

1112
00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:38,130
one part of the overall
freight program,

1113
00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:41,100
but the freight mobility
program being reduced 12%.

1114
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:44,865
We need to be in the times
of budgetary challenges;

1115
00:54:44,865 --> 00:54:48,060
the maritime piece is so
important for our revenue,

1116
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:49,710
and we should be
looking to support

1117
00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:51,930
the maritime enterprise here in

1118
00:54:51,930 --> 00:54:54,195
your city as a way
to ensure that,

1119
00:54:54,195 --> 00:54:55,980
on the revenue side that we have

1120
00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:58,320
strong revenue coming in,

1121
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,230
and we should look for
opportunities to improve that.

1122
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:02,670
When it comes to transportation,

1123
00:55:02,670 --> 00:55:06,810
the freight program
is huge in that area.

1124
00:55:06,810 --> 00:55:11,805
Chair, some observations,
some rhetorical questions.

1125
00:55:11,805 --> 00:55:15,000
Again, thank you, Miss Allen,
for nodding your head.

1126
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,040
I recognize the answer.

1127
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,590
Maybe Miss Labord can
answer behind you

1128
00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:23,115
or folks upstairs or across SMT.

1129
00:55:23,115 --> 00:55:24,165
Calvin Chow: Thank you,

1130
00:55:24,165 --> 00:55:25,440
Council member
Cattle. Come table.

1131
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,480
Anything to share in response?

1132
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,460
Any reflections? Fair enough.

1133
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:31,485
Councilmember Rivera,
followed by Juarez.

1134
00:55:31,485 --> 00:55:33,670
Maritza Rivera: Thank
you, Chair. Thank you

1135
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:38,010
all for being here and
answering our questions.

1136
00:55:38,830 --> 00:55:42,260
Thank you, both Amin
and Tracy, for, like,

1137
00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:46,380
jumping into SDTS issue ID.

1138
00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:54,510
First off, I appreciate
my colleague's comments,

1139
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:56,640
and I don't disagree.

1140
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,225
I'm going to share

1141
00:56:00,225 --> 00:56:03,315
I'm a little frustrated
because I feel like,

1142
00:56:03,315 --> 00:56:05,800
and this keeps happening:

1143
00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:11,520
Council gets requested
to basically this;

1144
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,860
to me, is like a bailout.

1145
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:15,930
Yet we're only just

1146
00:56:15,930 --> 00:56:18,045
finding out in the
last couple of weeks.

1147
00:56:18,045 --> 00:56:19,980
This is important to
note for the record,

1148
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:21,855
because our constituents
don't know.

1149
00:56:21,855 --> 00:56:24,895
Like, they assume we know
these things, but we do not.

1150
00:56:24,895 --> 00:56:28,160
I did not know up until a
couple of weeks ago, right,

1151
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,010
during the budget as part
of the budget process,

1152
00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:32,810
that Estad was operating

1153
00:56:32,810 --> 00:56:35,095
basically in the
red in this way.

1154
00:56:35,095 --> 00:56:38,430
This is a new
development for council.

1155
00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:41,130
That's important for
constituents to know.

1156
00:56:41,130 --> 00:56:42,720
My first question is,

1157
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,320
how long has the executive in
the department known this,

1158
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,645
because we were not told this?

1159
00:56:48,645 --> 00:56:52,050
Calvin Chow: I can't answer
that specific question,

1160
00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:54,930
but I do want to point
out that part of this is

1161
00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:56,690
about running a deficit

1162
00:56:56,690 --> 00:56:58,790
in specifically the
transportation fund.

1163
00:56:58,790 --> 00:57:01,820
Overall, there is money.
The money is there.

1164
00:57:01,820 --> 00:57:03,800
It's not in this
accounting fund,

1165
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,170
which is taking all the hits

1166
00:57:06,170 --> 00:57:08,495
and trying to process
all the money.

1167
00:57:08,495 --> 00:57:12,515
Not to dispute your
point, but just to.

1168
00:57:12,515 --> 00:57:15,125
Maritza Rivera: Understand.
Cal, but we're just finding out

1169
00:57:15,125 --> 00:57:18,050
exactly what the
situation is today and

1170
00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:22,365
being asked to figure
out or to approve

1171
00:57:22,365 --> 00:57:25,170
this in fund loan piece in

1172
00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:28,170
order to backfill because
we don't have reserves.

1173
00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:30,690
There is a lot here that

1174
00:57:30,690 --> 00:57:33,150
we're just finding
out more recently,

1175
00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:35,640
and I'm wondering because

1176
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,175
I heard you say
part of this issue.

1177
00:57:38,175 --> 00:57:40,650
Well, first of all, we
don't know all the causes.

1178
00:57:40,650 --> 00:57:42,465
Let me just start there.

1179
00:57:42,465 --> 00:57:44,715
We don't know all the causes.

1180
00:57:44,715 --> 00:57:48,225
There's this pretty big thing
that has been disclosed.

1181
00:57:48,225 --> 00:57:52,365
Then there's a significant
amount of money, 63.5 million.

1182
00:57:52,365 --> 00:57:54,840
That's a significant
amount of money to be

1183
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,540
asking for us to
approve ahead of

1184
00:57:57,540 --> 00:58:01,590
time: an interfund loan for

1185
00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:03,840
the department and
the executive to draw

1186
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,650
from as they think necessary.

1187
00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:11,010
I definitely support
putting guardrails in place

1188
00:58:11,010 --> 00:58:14,160
because we as I just disclosed,

1189
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,700
we don't always know what's
happening in real time.

1190
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:19,890
If we don't put
guardrails in place,

1191
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:22,035
that's our only opportunity

1192
00:58:22,035 --> 00:58:25,275
to find out what is
happening in real time,

1193
00:58:25,275 --> 00:58:26,460
because otherwise,

1194
00:58:26,460 --> 00:58:29,100
folks aren't proactively
coming to us,

1195
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:30,630
as I believe they should.

1196
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:32,850
Hey, let me, let us
flag this for you

1197
00:58:32,850 --> 00:58:34,170
because you will
have to deal with

1198
00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:35,850
this a come budget time.

1199
00:58:35,850 --> 00:58:38,850
I guess, Cal, that is
really my source of

1200
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:43,635
frustration is when counsel
finds these things out.

1201
00:58:43,635 --> 00:58:49,170
I don't know when the IDT
knew about this situation.

1202
00:58:49,170 --> 00:58:51,390
I suspect, obviously,
before budget,

1203
00:58:51,390 --> 00:58:52,755
but we weren't told then,

1204
00:58:52,755 --> 00:58:55,755
and I don't know before then,

1205
00:58:55,755 --> 00:58:58,350
when the department and

1206
00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:01,320
the executive knew
about the situation,

1207
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,435
that they could have
flagged for us sooner.

1208
00:59:03,435 --> 00:59:05,980
I guess that's my point.

1209
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,550
Amanda Allen: I do think

1210
00:59:08,550 --> 00:59:10,245
that counsel had an awareness of

1211
00:59:10,245 --> 00:59:12,150
the transportation fund
challenges because

1212
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:14,790
we authorized in 2020?

1213
00:59:14,790 --> 00:59:18,270
Was it the first interfund
loan of $25 million that they

1214
00:59:18,270 --> 00:59:22,005
were paying off over
the last few years,

1215
00:59:22,005 --> 00:59:23,730
with the last I think payment

1216
00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:25,305
happened in December of 2025?

1217
00:59:25,305 --> 00:59:26,760
I think there was
some awareness that

1218
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,950
the transportation fund
was having challenges.

1219
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:31,290
Now, it may not have
had awareness that,

1220
00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:32,490
starting in 2026,

1221
00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:34,140
after the interfund
loan was paid off,

1222
00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:36,180
that we continued to
have those challenges.

1223
00:59:36,180 --> 00:59:37,470
But when I'm looking at

1224
00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:39,780
the budget materials
and financial plans,

1225
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:41,940
I looked at last
year's financial plan,

1226
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:44,820
and it was a negative
balance and projected

1227
00:59:44,820 --> 00:59:46,470
for it to be negative balance

1228
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:48,315
for this year and
the coming years.

1229
00:59:48,315 --> 00:59:49,890
This year, I'm looking
at the financial plan,

1230
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:50,925
and it's not negative.

1231
00:59:50,925 --> 00:59:54,150
It is now showing a positive
going forward from 2028 on.

1232
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:57,780
I'm not sure to what extent,
as a historian here.

1233
00:59:57,780 --> 01:00:00,030
Calvin Chow: I do think
that that just speaks

1234
01:00:00,030 --> 01:00:02,190
to actually the same
issue that you have is

1235
01:00:02,190 --> 01:00:03,855
that you're presented with

1236
01:00:03,855 --> 01:00:06,090
the how do we fix it
sort of at the end,

1237
01:00:06,090 --> 01:00:08,250
without sort of knowing
along as you get

1238
01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:10,515
along what's the path?

1239
01:00:10,515 --> 01:00:13,830
What's the chart? What Tracey

1240
01:00:13,830 --> 01:00:15,510
is sing is that it
was known that we

1241
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:17,460
were in a bad
situation last year.

1242
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:18,780
Similar to the general fund,

1243
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:19,890
we did not show

1244
01:00:19,890 --> 01:00:22,410
balanced budgets going
out into future years.

1245
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:24,825
That was also true for
the transportation fund.

1246
01:00:24,825 --> 01:00:26,550
Yes, there were some
warning lights,

1247
01:00:26,550 --> 01:00:29,520
but it wasn't described in
the same way as running

1248
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,565
this deficit for how many
days and that type of thing.

1249
01:00:32,565 --> 01:00:34,620
Maritza Rivera: Nor that we
didn't have the reserves,

1250
01:00:34,620 --> 01:00:36,000
nor that I didn't know about

1251
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,045
the 2020 interlone
fund; obviously,

1252
01:00:39,045 --> 01:00:41,565
many of us weren't here in 2020,

1253
01:00:41,565 --> 01:00:45,220
except for Council member Haris.

1254
01:00:45,620 --> 01:00:50,445
Here, and [OVERLAPPING]
Chair Strauss, apologies.

1255
01:00:50,445 --> 01:00:52,815
But the majority of us were not.

1256
01:00:52,815 --> 01:00:55,425
Then, even more recently,

1257
01:00:55,425 --> 01:00:57,720
we have newer members
of the council.

1258
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,580
At the end of the day,

1259
01:00:59,580 --> 01:01:01,980
this information
needs to be given to

1260
01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:05,415
the council ahead of
time so that we know,

1261
01:01:05,415 --> 01:01:06,900
and not made the assumption

1262
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:09,570
that because this
happened in 2020,

1263
01:01:09,570 --> 01:01:12,810
we would know what
the situation was.

1264
01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,615
That is a source of
frustration, Cal.

1265
01:01:15,615 --> 01:01:18,945
Thank you for acknowledging
that it I mean,

1266
01:01:18,945 --> 01:01:22,665
it is troublesome to be
here being asked to approve

1267
01:01:22,665 --> 01:01:25,740
another interfund loan of

1268
01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:31,380
this amount and not having
been flagged that sooner.

1269
01:01:31,380 --> 01:01:33,945
I mean, the department
could have.

1270
01:01:33,945 --> 01:01:36,720
Let's put that aside.

1271
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,650
The other pieces on
the district fund,

1272
01:01:40,650 --> 01:01:42,570
many of us saw that as

1273
01:01:42,570 --> 01:01:45,990
an opportunity to
help our constituents

1274
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:49,500
be able to fulfill projects
we knew were not going

1275
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:52,680
to get done unless
we allocated money.

1276
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,205
Really appreciate
Councilmember Saka

1277
01:01:56,205 --> 01:01:59,220
for his leadership as
transportation chair to

1278
01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:03,705
really support this fund

1279
01:02:03,705 --> 01:02:06,120
and build it as
part of the levy,

1280
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,580
quite frankly, transportation
levy a couple of years ago.

1281
01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:13,500
In my district, for instance,

1282
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:16,200
I identified a project for

1283
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,875
the fund that wasn't going
to get done otherwise.

1284
01:02:19,875 --> 01:02:21,675
Still hasn't gotten done.

1285
01:02:21,675 --> 01:02:23,235
Constituents have been waiting

1286
01:02:23,235 --> 01:02:25,050
ten years or have
been asking for

1287
01:02:25,050 --> 01:02:29,700
10 years S Dot to do this
Vision Zero-type project.

1288
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:33,090
It's basically a traffic circle.

1289
01:02:33,090 --> 01:02:36,850
No, can't do it.
Don't have the money.

1290
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,340
I identify the money
still hasn't gotten done.

1291
01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:44,250
It is hard for the department to

1292
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:47,850
come and to hear about
this situation and

1293
01:02:47,850 --> 01:02:52,560
then feel like I'm being asked

1294
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:58,635
to give another approval
for an intrafund loan.

1295
01:02:58,635 --> 01:03:00,600
All the while, the projects

1296
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,745
that we're requesting
aren't getting done,

1297
01:03:02,745 --> 01:03:06,330
even when we do identify
the money for it.

1298
01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:08,550
Same with last year's budget,

1299
01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:12,930
where I asked the department

1300
01:03:12,930 --> 01:03:16,695
to do a traffic calming
on Sand Point Way,

1301
01:03:16,695 --> 01:03:18,135
and they didn't do it.

1302
01:03:18,135 --> 01:03:19,965
They needed to
talk to the state;

1303
01:03:19,965 --> 01:03:21,180
they needed to talk to

1304
01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:23,265
our emergency departments in

1305
01:03:23,265 --> 01:03:25,050
order to get this project done.

1306
01:03:25,050 --> 01:03:26,730
It was traffic calming;

1307
01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:28,500
there's all this
speed racing that

1308
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:30,300
has happened in that area.

1309
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:31,830
They didn't talk to the state;

1310
01:03:31,830 --> 01:03:36,630
they didn't talk to our
emergency departments.

1311
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:38,130
Then come back no, can't do

1312
01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:40,140
the project because
of these issues.

1313
01:03:40,140 --> 01:03:42,060
Yes, we've identified
that there is

1314
01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:43,650
a state road and
that you'll have to

1315
01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:45,360
talk to the emergency
departments,

1316
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,175
but there was no evidence,

1317
01:03:47,175 --> 01:03:50,340
nor did they tell me when
they talked to me directly,

1318
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:52,350
that they had talked
to those agencies

1319
01:03:52,350 --> 01:03:53,400
in order to figure out,

1320
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,385
can we do some traffic
calming there?

1321
01:03:56,385 --> 01:03:59,025
This is a source of frustration;

1322
01:03:59,025 --> 01:04:01,650
I'm frustrated on behalf
of my constituents who

1323
01:04:01,650 --> 01:04:04,950
ask for these improvements.

1324
01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:07,410
They are safety-focused,

1325
01:04:07,410 --> 01:04:11,010
and then there's no resolve,

1326
01:04:11,010 --> 01:04:14,260
even when we do put
things in the budget.

1327
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,115
That's a second piece,

1328
01:04:17,115 --> 01:04:19,110
but it does increase my level of

1329
01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:21,480
frustration when
I'm being asked to

1330
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,415
approve an interfund loan and

1331
01:04:23,415 --> 01:04:27,990
the amount for them to
continue doing their work,

1332
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:31,200
and yet I feel like
you're not giving

1333
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,150
service to the constituents

1334
01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:35,625
that I represent
in the district.

1335
01:04:35,625 --> 01:04:39,150
This is a source of
frustration, as well.

1336
01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:41,880
That's not a question;

1337
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,380
that is a comment,

1338
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:46,285
but I feel really strongly that,

1339
01:04:46,285 --> 01:04:49,355
as SDOT is moving forward,

1340
01:04:49,355 --> 01:04:54,635
these causes for why this
is happening is important.

1341
01:04:54,635 --> 01:04:56,390
I get, Cal, what
you're saying in

1342
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:58,430
terms of we have to identify

1343
01:04:58,430 --> 01:05:01,010
the causes and then
potential solutions

1344
01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:04,095
before we can get
to the next part.

1345
01:05:04,095 --> 01:05:06,465
But I am frustrated

1346
01:05:06,465 --> 01:05:08,220
ever not just on

1347
01:05:08,220 --> 01:05:10,140
this department other
departments as well,

1348
01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:11,820
that sometimes I
do think council

1349
01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:14,430
doesn't have the
full information.

1350
01:05:14,430 --> 01:05:17,520
We're like the last people
to find things out,

1351
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,780
I almost feel like.

1352
01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:21,960
That's not a great
position to be in.

1353
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,540
I understand that sometimes

1354
01:05:24,540 --> 01:05:26,850
something occurred
six years ago,

1355
01:05:26,850 --> 01:05:29,760
but you can't make the
assumption that we know that.

1356
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,640
I understand that every year
we balanced our budget,

1357
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,950
and we know we have to balance
every department's budget,

1358
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:37,080
but I wasn't going
to assume that

1359
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,260
the situation was as bad as
this because I didn't know;

1360
01:05:40,260 --> 01:05:42,060
we didn't have the conversation.

1361
01:05:42,060 --> 01:05:47,940
If we did, it was not in
a manner that we have

1362
01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:53,910
this interfund loan
that's coming to an end,

1363
01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:57,375
and we will have to
re-up it to this level.

1364
01:05:57,375 --> 01:06:00,600
Those are pieces of information
that would have been

1365
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,140
helpful to have sooner
rather than later.

1366
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:06,660
I am simply stating that having

1367
01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:09,795
council have information
sooner rather than later,

1368
01:06:09,795 --> 01:06:12,300
across the board,
and especially as

1369
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:15,600
regards SDOT, is
really important.

1370
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,280
That is not happening.

1371
01:06:18,620 --> 01:06:21,510
That, along with
the frustration of

1372
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:24,630
these projects that we
ask for in our districts,

1373
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:27,130
and they do not happen.

1374
01:06:27,230 --> 01:06:33,690
SDOT, they're not
currying any favors with

1375
01:06:33,690 --> 01:06:37,260
our constituents when this level

1376
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:39,405
of problem is identified,

1377
01:06:39,405 --> 01:06:41,760
and yet constituents don't

1378
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,905
feel like they're
getting the service.

1379
01:06:43,905 --> 01:06:48,330
Thank you, Chair,
for letting me speak

1380
01:06:48,330 --> 01:06:50,340
because this is really
our opportunity to

1381
01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:53,490
tell our constituents
what is going on.

1382
01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:56,430
Otherwise, there's
really no opportunity,

1383
01:06:56,430 --> 01:06:57,660
and I don't want to leave it on

1384
01:06:57,660 --> 01:06:59,820
the table that we know
things that we don't,

1385
01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:01,170
that the executive knows,

1386
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:05,610
and we don't get
told what I feel is

1387
01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:10,725
appropriate amount of notice.

1388
01:07:10,725 --> 01:07:12,780
I look forward to
hearing more about

1389
01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:15,360
what causes and where we're at,

1390
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,065
putting more guardrails
on interfund loan.

1391
01:07:19,065 --> 01:07:20,250
Then, more importantly, how the

1392
01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:21,840
department's going to deliver on

1393
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,580
these district projects
moving forward,

1394
01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:30,195
because if we're going
to say yes to this loan,

1395
01:07:30,195 --> 01:07:33,690
I expect that our
constituents in

1396
01:07:33,690 --> 01:07:39,060
every district is going to get
service. Thank you, Chair.

1397
01:07:39,060 --> 01:07:39,675
Dan Strauss: Thank you.

1398
01:07:39,675 --> 01:07:41,485
Does committee table
have anything to share?

1399
01:07:41,485 --> 01:07:43,745
Amanda Allen: I will
say, on the front

1400
01:07:43,745 --> 01:07:45,020
of the district projects,

1401
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:46,460
we did receive information from

1402
01:07:46,460 --> 01:07:48,650
SDOT saying that
they anticipate that

1403
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:51,740
more than half of the
projects that were identified

1404
01:07:51,740 --> 01:07:54,935
by the council members
will be delivered in 2027,

1405
01:07:54,935 --> 01:07:58,960
with the remaining
finishing up in 2028.

1406
01:07:59,030 --> 01:08:02,740
Maritza Rivera:
Thank you, Amanda.

1407
01:08:04,790 --> 01:08:08,160
Dan Strauss: Councilmember
Juarez, you're up next.

1408
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,540
Debora Juarez: Thank
you, Mr. Chair. Let me

1409
01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:14,025
get on camera here.

1410
01:08:14,025 --> 01:08:18,315
First of all, thank
you, Tracy and Kelvin,

1411
01:08:18,315 --> 01:08:20,580
and apologies,

1412
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:23,670
but I understand that Bill
is in the audience as well.

1413
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:25,710
Again, Mr.

1414
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:27,270
Chair, I want to
put some things in

1415
01:08:27,270 --> 01:08:29,415
context about North Aurora,

1416
01:08:29,415 --> 01:08:33,315
this chronology,
working with SPD,

1417
01:08:33,315 --> 01:08:35,895
SDOT, and the mayor's office,

1418
01:08:35,895 --> 01:08:39,930
and our lack of a plan to
address the gun violence and

1419
01:08:39,930 --> 01:08:41,610
criminal activity
on North Aurora

1420
01:08:41,610 --> 01:08:44,490
in regards to the
street closures.

1421
01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:46,440
Please bear with me;

1422
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:48,195
I will try to be brief.

1423
01:08:48,195 --> 01:08:50,235
Between May and June,

1424
01:08:50,235 --> 01:08:52,380
the neighbors took it upon

1425
01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:55,305
themselves- DIY, do it yourself.

1426
01:08:55,305 --> 01:08:57,960
They closed streets due
to gun violence and

1427
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,230
criminal activity,
sex trafficking, etc.

1428
01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:04,215
On June 11th, and I still
have my notes in front of me,

1429
01:09:04,215 --> 01:09:06,225
we had a press conference

1430
01:09:06,225 --> 01:09:09,000
with council president,
city attorney,

1431
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,965
Chief Barnes, Mayor Wilson,

1432
01:09:10,965 --> 01:09:12,090
Councilmember Kettle, and

1433
01:09:12,090 --> 01:09:14,430
Councilmember Rivera, et cetera.

1434
01:09:14,430 --> 01:09:17,250
After the press
conference on July 8th,

1435
01:09:17,250 --> 01:09:19,035
thank you, Mayor Wilson,

1436
01:09:19,035 --> 01:09:24,180
she signed the legislation
which allowed SDOT to close

1437
01:09:24,180 --> 01:09:26,700
streets on recommendation of

1438
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:27,810
the chief of police if

1439
01:09:27,810 --> 01:09:29,895
indeed there was
criminal activity.

1440
01:09:29,895 --> 01:09:31,830
We can close streets
for a lot of reasons,

1441
01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:36,280
but now we added to the
menu criminal activity.

1442
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:40,245
We have been in contact,

1443
01:09:40,245 --> 01:09:45,735
sending emails with SPD

1444
01:09:45,735 --> 01:09:49,305
in the mayor's office
on September 8th,

1445
01:09:49,305 --> 01:09:53,490
September 14th, September
15th, September 21st,

1446
01:09:53,490 --> 01:09:56,070
and September 29th,

1447
01:09:56,070 --> 01:10:00,735
where we sent emails
not only to SDOT.

1448
01:10:00,735 --> 01:10:03,765
Thank you, Bill, for being
attentive and responding,

1449
01:10:03,765 --> 01:10:05,820
but also to the mayor's office.

1450
01:10:05,820 --> 01:10:10,905
We did get a response on
October 5th from SPD,

1451
01:10:10,905 --> 01:10:14,145
responding to our
October 1st again,

1452
01:10:14,145 --> 01:10:17,055
on an update of these streets.

1453
01:10:17,055 --> 01:10:20,880
As of today's date,
October 14th,

1454
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,440
there are seven streets
that are closed.

1455
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:27,240
Let me go through them quickly.

1456
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:33,435
96th is a temporary
fully closed street,

1457
01:10:33,435 --> 01:10:37,050
97th is a temporary
partial closure,

1458
01:10:37,050 --> 01:10:40,740
98th is a temporary
full disclosure,

1459
01:10:40,740 --> 01:10:43,590
100th is a temporary
full disclosure.

1460
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:46,815
101st is a temporary
full disclosure.

1461
01:10:46,815 --> 01:10:49,590
102nd is a temporary
full disclosure,

1462
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:52,590
and 107th is a temporary
full disclosure.

1463
01:10:52,590 --> 01:10:57,735
I won't go into the
shootings on 105th,

1464
01:10:57,735 --> 01:10:59,355
in which the cameras
were shut off;

1465
01:10:59,355 --> 01:11:01,350
it's another issue
for another day.

1466
01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:03,900
Basically, on North Aurora,

1467
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:08,130
from 96, 97, 98, 100, 101,

1468
01:11:08,130 --> 01:11:11,700
102, and 107, seven streets,

1469
01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:12,870
every street except for

1470
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:16,755
six is a temporary
full disclosure.

1471
01:11:16,755 --> 01:11:18,240
Bill, I know you're there;

1472
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,560
I can't see you,

1473
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,150
but I heard that you were there.

1474
01:11:21,150 --> 01:11:26,490
We have yet to know
what the plan is since

1475
01:11:26,490 --> 01:11:30,180
May-June press conference passed

1476
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:33,930
the law in July, multiple
correspondences.

1477
01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:35,355
We still do not have

1478
01:11:35,355 --> 01:11:39,645
a plan for what we're going
to do about those streets.

1479
01:11:39,645 --> 01:11:42,450
It isn't constituents in D5;

1480
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:46,960
it's the whole city because
Aurora is a state highway.

1481
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:52,590
It's all of Aurora
up into Shoreline,

1482
01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:55,650
south of D5 and D6, and,

1483
01:11:55,650 --> 01:11:57,090
of course, all the way down to

1484
01:11:57,090 --> 01:11:59,175
the city limits, and then some.

1485
01:11:59,175 --> 01:12:02,250
But those seven streets
that I point out,

1486
01:12:02,250 --> 01:12:05,230
we have yet to have

1487
01:12:05,870 --> 01:12:10,890
any plan on the
temporary streets

1488
01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:12,090
and what we're going to do about

1489
01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:14,325
those, let alone funding.

1490
01:12:14,325 --> 01:12:17,175
I'm hoping that the
mayor's office.

1491
01:12:17,175 --> 01:12:21,555
Again, I'm picking on the
mayor's office or SDOT or SPD.

1492
01:12:21,555 --> 01:12:24,000
I'm trying to respond to
the people that live on

1493
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,285
these streets that want to know.

1494
01:12:27,285 --> 01:12:29,340
This is going on
before May-June.

1495
01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:32,205
This was building from January,

1496
01:12:32,205 --> 01:12:34,425
when we were meeting with
the city attorney's office

1497
01:12:34,425 --> 01:12:37,695
and the King County
Prosecutor's Office.

1498
01:12:37,695 --> 01:12:43,410
We are at a breaking point
about what is SPD and SDOT and

1499
01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:45,900
the mayor's office
are going to do about

1500
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:50,050
these seven streets where
there are temporary closures.

1501
01:12:51,530 --> 01:12:54,435
About what you're going
to do with these streets?

1502
01:12:54,435 --> 01:13:00,210
We're just waiting. That's
more of a statement.

1503
01:13:00,210 --> 01:13:01,965
Hopefully, somebody
will get back to us

1504
01:13:01,965 --> 01:13:04,320
again and let us know
what's going on.

1505
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,090
Then I do have one question.

1506
01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:08,250
It's a basic nerdy one.

1507
01:13:08,250 --> 01:13:11,230
On the interfund loan,

1508
01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:17,730
is there an interest
rate issue there on

1509
01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:20,775
the interfund loan
between the departments?

1510
01:13:20,775 --> 01:13:23,445
Traci Ratzliff: They're
estimating a 4% interest rate,

1511
01:13:23,445 --> 01:13:25,800
or whatever the current
interest rate is that's

1512
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,085
charged to the city's
consolidated cash pool.

1513
01:13:29,085 --> 01:13:33,660
Debora Juarez: 4%. I think
it's important for the public.

1514
01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:36,000
Traci Ratzliff:
Yeah, you got it.

1515
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,455
Debora Juarez: We've done
a lot of those, Tracy,

1516
01:13:37,455 --> 01:13:41,640
with MPD, general
fund, Bover to Park.

1517
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,530
I think people should
know that they are

1518
01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:45,240
going to get paid
back with interest,

1519
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,375
and that's a very
common municipal tool

1520
01:13:48,375 --> 01:13:50,295
that people use,
including tribes,

1521
01:13:50,295 --> 01:13:52,035
to loan money to each other,

1522
01:13:52,035 --> 01:13:57,690
knowing that there's a healthy
or a fair interest rate

1523
01:13:57,690 --> 01:13:59,160
to go ahead and loan
to another department,

1524
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,540
knowing that they're
going to get it back.

1525
01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:02,550
I guess my last comment is,

1526
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:06,330
I just want to work with
the mayor's office, SDOT,

1527
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:10,980
and SPD to address these seven
streets. Thank you, Chair.

1528
01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:12,840
Dan Strauss: Thank you,
Councilmember Juarez.

1529
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,180
Anything from the committee
table at this time?

1530
01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:17,370
Colleagues, any
additional questions?

1531
01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:19,110
I can go through some of mine.

1532
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:22,470
Seeing none at this time.

1533
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:24,930
Just a couple questions.

1534
01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:28,050
Councilmember Kettle, that
hold hand. Hold hand.

1535
01:14:28,050 --> 01:14:32,175
Thought so. Does this budget

1536
01:14:32,175 --> 01:14:35,950
assume the passage of the
Seattle Transit measure?

1537
01:14:37,850 --> 01:14:39,795
Amanda Allen: Yes, it does.

1538
01:14:39,795 --> 01:14:42,510
Dan Strauss: Thank you. How much

1539
01:14:42,510 --> 01:14:44,985
of this budget is
dependent upon REET?

1540
01:14:44,985 --> 01:14:48,225
We know that REET has been
downturning in the past bit.

1541
01:14:48,225 --> 01:14:49,470
If it was to continue

1542
01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:52,320
downturning, what
are we looking at?

1543
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,630
Do we have to delay projects,

1544
01:14:54,630 --> 01:15:00,040
or where are we at there?

1545
01:15:00,620 --> 01:15:05,370
Amanda Allen: On
Page 6 of the memo,

1546
01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:10,740
the fund appropriation
summary: REET 1 and REET 2.

1547
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:12,180
But at REET 2,

1548
01:15:12,180 --> 01:15:17,985
2027 proposed right
now is 15.2 million.

1549
01:15:17,985 --> 01:15:21,520
I think you had a
follow-up to that.

1550
01:15:22,730 --> 01:15:26,175
Dan Strauss: If that REET
disappears, what do we do?

1551
01:15:26,175 --> 01:15:28,980
Is it projects get delayed?

1552
01:15:28,980 --> 01:15:31,500
Amanda Allen: I would
say it depends on where

1553
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:33,675
this funding is allocated,

1554
01:15:33,675 --> 01:15:35,295
whether they're delayed,

1555
01:15:35,295 --> 01:15:38,415
or whether there's a way to
spread the reduction so that

1556
01:15:38,415 --> 01:15:42,180
if they have other funding
sources allocated to them,

1557
01:15:42,180 --> 01:15:43,260
maybe they can continue,

1558
01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:45,210
but at a slower pace.

1559
01:15:45,210 --> 01:15:46,875
Dan Strauss: Cal, I see
you've got something.

1560
01:15:46,875 --> 01:15:48,300
Calvin Chow: Broadly
speaking, REET is

1561
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:50,770
for capital projects only.

1562
01:15:51,410 --> 01:15:53,715
The council could
consider shifting

1563
01:15:53,715 --> 01:15:55,530
other revenues or other sources,

1564
01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:57,060
but that would necessitate

1565
01:15:57,060 --> 01:16:00,255
taking cuts from other
sources as well.

1566
01:16:00,255 --> 01:16:02,550
Dan Strauss: Through
this discussion,

1567
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:04,050
I appreciate Director Panucci

1568
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:06,765
bringing this to the forefront.

1569
01:16:06,765 --> 01:16:13,800
As I've been digging
into this issue,

1570
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,690
the information that I am

1571
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:18,000
receiving is worse
than I expected.

1572
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,820
When we're talking
about why projects

1573
01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:23,535
can't or can be funded,

1574
01:16:23,535 --> 01:16:26,970
it's because a mixture
of funding sources are

1575
01:16:26,970 --> 01:16:31,200
being used and then replenished
within the department.

1576
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,315
Through this whole experience,

1577
01:16:33,315 --> 01:16:37,590
I frankly have more questions,

1578
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:40,335
and I have answers
starting out here.

1579
01:16:40,335 --> 01:16:45,060
There will be a need for
the auditor to look at

1580
01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:47,355
the department and how

1581
01:16:47,355 --> 01:16:50,355
it's functioning to provide
us with recommendations.

1582
01:16:50,355 --> 01:16:52,350
It may also be that we need to

1583
01:16:52,350 --> 01:16:55,510
hire an external
fiscal consultant,

1584
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,295
whether it's a fiscal
or forensic audit,

1585
01:16:59,295 --> 01:17:04,860
or an external consultant

1586
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:07,365
to provide us direction

1587
01:17:07,365 --> 01:17:11,230
on how to fix some
of these issues.

1588
01:17:11,420 --> 01:17:14,325
I'll leave it at
that for right now,

1589
01:17:14,325 --> 01:17:15,900
because these are
really serious issues.

1590
01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:18,600
If SDOT can't make payroll,

1591
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,470
then we are in serious trouble.

1592
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:25,080
If you need $59
million in a month,

1593
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,735
that says to me that you
need a lot of assistance.

1594
01:17:27,735 --> 01:17:29,160
That's the number
that I heard today

1595
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,960
during DEMPAC is at times,

1596
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,810
you could reach up to
needing $59 million.

1597
01:17:33,810 --> 01:17:36,870
That's really serious.

1598
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:38,850
At the last meeting that we

1599
01:17:38,850 --> 01:17:40,530
had I listed a number of

1600
01:17:40,530 --> 01:17:44,925
different projects that I
had found inefficiencies,

1601
01:17:44,925 --> 01:17:46,875
and they were not my priorities.

1602
01:17:46,875 --> 01:17:48,990
These were the projects
that were listed in

1603
01:17:48,990 --> 01:17:51,180
SDOT's levy delivery plan at

1604
01:17:51,180 --> 01:17:52,905
the beginning of this last year

1605
01:17:52,905 --> 01:17:54,960
that I went through with them to

1606
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,120
identify how these projects

1607
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,760
could be done better,
and they weren't.

1608
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,205
That is an inefficient use

1609
01:18:02,205 --> 01:18:05,055
of taxpayer dollars at
the end of the day.

1610
01:18:05,055 --> 01:18:08,685
We are having two things
occurring simultaneously.

1611
01:18:08,685 --> 01:18:10,320
We are having inefficient use of

1612
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,110
tax dollars to accomplish
the goals of our city,

1613
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:15,015
and we are having

1614
01:18:15,015 --> 01:18:18,390
a serious fiscal issue within
the transportation fund,

1615
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:21,015
which is effectively
a general fund

1616
01:18:21,015 --> 01:18:23,770
for the transportation
department.

1617
01:18:24,170 --> 01:18:28,440
It's clear, SDOT needs

1618
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,050
a bailout and I'm
here to help him out.

1619
01:18:31,050 --> 01:18:34,230
We're going to make
sure that SDOT

1620
01:18:34,230 --> 01:18:36,600
is able to make payroll,

1621
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,710
to pay their bills,

1622
01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:39,240
to continue working towards

1623
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,985
a greater financial stability.

1624
01:18:41,985 --> 01:18:45,435
We have to fix the problems
that are occurring today,

1625
01:18:45,435 --> 01:18:49,050
because both from a use
of taxpayer dollars in

1626
01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:53,655
an efficient manner and
strong fiscal priorities,

1627
01:18:53,655 --> 01:18:56,190
strong fiscal abilities,
we need both,

1628
01:18:56,190 --> 01:18:58,560
and they're two
different streets,

1629
01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,580
paths, sidewalks,

1630
01:18:59,580 --> 01:19:01,080
bike lanes, however
you want to call them.

1631
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,190
There are two different routes.

1632
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,415
I did abstain.

1633
01:19:05,415 --> 01:19:07,530
At DIMPAC today we had

1634
01:19:07,530 --> 01:19:10,455
a very clear and open
conversation about

1635
01:19:10,455 --> 01:19:14,490
the additional guardrails
that we'll be putting in.

1636
01:19:14,490 --> 01:19:16,770
This is speaking
specifically to paying off

1637
01:19:16,770 --> 01:19:19,515
the interest and making
sure that it has paid off.

1638
01:19:19,515 --> 01:19:22,125
Tracy, you are correct
in stating that

1639
01:19:22,125 --> 01:19:24,510
we had an inkling that something

1640
01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:26,520
was wrong when SDOT
couldn't repay

1641
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,790
its last interfund loan.

1642
01:19:29,790 --> 01:19:32,100
I had another inkling
that I shared at

1643
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:34,980
the last committee meeting
of being told that we

1644
01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:37,920
have only enough
Greenways money and to do

1645
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,140
an additional 6-8
blocks of greenways in

1646
01:19:40,140 --> 01:19:43,740
the next eight years
in District 6.

1647
01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:45,660
These are indicators
that there's

1648
01:19:45,660 --> 01:19:48,670
something not going well.

1649
01:19:49,370 --> 01:19:53,940
We have to make sure that
the department is made

1650
01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:58,440
whole and has a structured
path to better stability,

1651
01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:00,750
as well as providing

1652
01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:04,630
additional guardrails
and checkpoints.

1653
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:07,875
Especially for the state auditor

1654
01:20:07,875 --> 01:20:10,920
who will probably
review this tape,

1655
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:15,540
it is clear that it will take
probably up to 10 years for

1656
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:21,430
this loan of $63
million to be repaid.

1657
01:20:21,860 --> 01:20:24,900
We will be structuring
this in a number of

1658
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:27,450
different loans so that we

1659
01:20:27,450 --> 01:20:30,840
can ensure that other
council members

1660
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,040
aren't getting caught off guard,

1661
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,830
that we have an
accountability system

1662
01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:36,450
here that is engaging with

1663
01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:41,415
counsel as it is our chartered
duty to pass the budget.

1664
01:20:41,415 --> 01:20:43,620
We're going to work
hand in hand to make

1665
01:20:43,620 --> 01:20:46,050
sure that SDOT is
in a better place,

1666
01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:48,330
but it will look a little
bit different than

1667
01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:50,745
what was passed out
at DIMPAC today.

1668
01:20:50,745 --> 01:20:53,400
This repayment could
take a decade,

1669
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,860
and we'll need those
additional check ins with re

1670
01:20:55,860 --> 01:21:00,100
affirmations throughout
that 10 years.

1671
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,565
This is also not anyone's fault,

1672
01:21:05,565 --> 01:21:07,905
any single person's fault.

1673
01:21:07,905 --> 01:21:11,985
I think that this speaks
to the larger issue

1674
01:21:11,985 --> 01:21:16,170
of leadership turnover
in the city of Seattle.

1675
01:21:16,170 --> 01:21:19,530
I'm teasing you here,

1676
01:21:19,530 --> 01:21:20,730
but the fact that you forgot I

1677
01:21:20,730 --> 01:21:22,290
was here even six years ago.

1678
01:21:22,290 --> 01:21:27,555
It just demonstrates that
in the last 10 years,

1679
01:21:27,555 --> 01:21:30,105
we had Scott Kubly,
Goran Sparrman,

1680
01:21:30,105 --> 01:21:32,040
an additional interim
director that I

1681
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,350
can't remember her
name, Sam Zimbabwe,

1682
01:21:34,350 --> 01:21:36,870
Greg Spotts, Adiam Emery,

1683
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:39,300
and Angela Brady
as SDOT directors.

1684
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:42,070
That's seven and 10 years.

1685
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:46,980
That's why I don't put this at

1686
01:21:46,980 --> 01:21:49,350
any one single
individual's feet,

1687
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:52,500
that this is a problem
that the lack of

1688
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:53,850
consistent leadership throughout

1689
01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:55,920
our entire city has created,

1690
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,865
and it's our job here to
make sure it's fixed,

1691
01:21:59,865 --> 01:22:01,860
to make sure that the
department is stable

1692
01:22:01,860 --> 01:22:04,680
and that they're being
responsive to community needs.

1693
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,885
I heard last night when
I was in community

1694
01:22:06,885 --> 01:22:08,565
an additional request for

1695
01:22:08,565 --> 01:22:11,130
speed humps on
residential streets,

1696
01:22:11,130 --> 01:22:13,950
and I said, SDOT
doesn't do that.

1697
01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:16,200
They pressed me for
quite some time,

1698
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,140
and I said, If it was my
decision, they would.

1699
01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:23,130
But, additionally, I
think that we need to be

1700
01:22:23,130 --> 01:22:24,480
spending more money in places

1701
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:27,630
where there's deaths occurring.

1702
01:22:27,630 --> 01:22:30,405
Rainier Avenue stands
out to me that they need

1703
01:22:30,405 --> 01:22:33,900
a lot more help than some

1704
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:38,460
of the other streets
that are already safer.

1705
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:43,770
I don't have much
more to say here.

1706
01:22:43,820 --> 01:22:47,970
This is just the general
framing of how we

1707
01:22:47,970 --> 01:22:51,810
will get the department
through this next hurdle and

1708
01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:53,835
that there will likely be

1709
01:22:53,835 --> 01:22:57,180
additional accountability
measures put

1710
01:22:57,180 --> 01:22:58,890
on the department
to ensure that we

1711
01:22:58,890 --> 01:23:00,900
are working well together

1712
01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:02,790
and that there are no
surprises and that

1713
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:05,130
the issues that have come to

1714
01:23:05,130 --> 01:23:08,325
the surface are addressed
in a timely manner.

1715
01:23:08,325 --> 01:23:10,170
Before I move on to

1716
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:11,970
additional Council
members committee table,

1717
01:23:11,970 --> 01:23:12,975
I always check back in.

1718
01:23:12,975 --> 01:23:14,280
Anything to share, reflect?

1719
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,965
Did I get it wrong or anything
you want to say here?

1720
01:23:16,965 --> 01:23:17,820
Seeing none.

1721
01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:21,030
I've got Council member
Foster up next. Thank you.

1722
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:23,265
Dionne Foster: Thank
you so much, Chair,

1723
01:23:23,265 --> 01:23:25,710
and apologies for
the late hand there.

1724
01:23:25,710 --> 01:23:27,255
I just pulling some stuff up.

1725
01:23:27,255 --> 01:23:29,190
As always, thanks to
central staff team.

1726
01:23:29,190 --> 01:23:30,390
I really appreciate you all.

1727
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:31,650
Thank you, Amanda, for your work

1728
01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:33,450
and the presentation today.

1729
01:23:33,450 --> 01:23:37,005
If you wouldn't mind just
going back to Slide 5,

1730
01:23:37,005 --> 01:23:40,270
please, for the
commercial parking tax.

1731
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,860
I think my question's
fairly short.

1732
01:23:43,860 --> 01:23:50,310
I think we're at

1733
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:51,870
a 2.5% increase in

1734
01:23:51,870 --> 01:23:54,600
commercial parking tax
now, the last one was 2%.

1735
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,840
How does our commercial
parking tax here in

1736
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,170
the city compare to
other jurisdictions?

1737
01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:03,340
Do we have that?

1738
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:11,085
Amanda Allen: I did receive
some information from SDOT

1739
01:24:11,085 --> 01:24:16,065
on other jurisdictions
countrywide.

1740
01:24:16,065 --> 01:24:19,680
Our commercial parking
tax isn't the highest.

1741
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,120
It's not the lowest.

1742
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:25,140
I'm happy to share with you

1743
01:24:25,140 --> 01:24:27,585
the information that they
provided so that you can

1744
01:24:27,585 --> 01:24:29,790
take a peek at the cities that

1745
01:24:29,790 --> 01:24:32,535
they were able to
provide data on.

1746
01:24:32,535 --> 01:24:34,110
Dionne Foster: That would
be great. I'm happy to

1747
01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:35,370
do that as a follow up.

1748
01:24:35,370 --> 01:24:37,680
Then the only other question
I wanted to ask is,

1749
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,795
does the budget as proposed

1750
01:24:39,795 --> 01:24:44,010
assume a path here for the
commercial parking tax,

1751
01:24:44,010 --> 01:24:46,500
noting that the last time
we increased it was in

1752
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:49,995
2022 or increasing it in 2024.

1753
01:24:49,995 --> 01:24:53,400
Are there any assumptions
about remaining flat

1754
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,855
with the commercial parking tax

1755
01:24:54,855 --> 01:24:56,700
over the next four years,

1756
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:59,670
and if so, can you just
speak to those, please?

1757
01:24:59,670 --> 01:25:01,890
Amanda Allen: At the
moment, I'm not aware of

1758
01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:06,690
a longer term strategy being
offered up by the executive.

1759
01:25:06,690 --> 01:25:10,065
I'm happy to ask and find
out what their thoughts are.

1760
01:25:10,065 --> 01:25:13,965
At the moment, it's just
proposed in the 2027 budget.

1761
01:25:13,965 --> 01:25:14,790
Dionne Foster: That makes sense.

1762
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:16,230
I think one thing that's been on

1763
01:25:16,230 --> 01:25:18,330
my mind and it came
up here a little bit,

1764
01:25:18,330 --> 01:25:22,785
also in SDCI is just
around the predictability.

1765
01:25:22,785 --> 01:25:24,225
I know that's something that we

1766
01:25:24,225 --> 01:25:25,500
heard some of the
other departments

1767
01:25:25,500 --> 01:25:28,425
speak to at the table and
the forward planning.

1768
01:25:28,425 --> 01:25:31,560
I think there may be some
ability for us to do

1769
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,530
that work looking out there at

1770
01:25:34,530 --> 01:25:38,175
the potential need to increase
or shift this over time.

1771
01:25:38,175 --> 01:25:40,110
I'm just very curious
about how that will

1772
01:25:40,110 --> 01:25:43,065
sit alongside the work
that we need to do

1773
01:25:43,065 --> 01:25:44,550
that Council member that

1774
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:46,800
Chair Strauss
already spoke to in

1775
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,560
terms of the interfund loan

1776
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:50,940
and the balance in
the department.

1777
01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:52,395
I look forward to that.

1778
01:25:52,395 --> 01:25:56,880
Then on Slide 6

1779
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,010
I want to say I heard another

1780
01:25:59,010 --> 01:26:01,360
council member speak
to this earlier.

1781
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:08,385
Wait, actually I think
you're pulling up Slide 6.

1782
01:26:08,385 --> 01:26:12,180
This is the automatic
traffic safety cameras.

1783
01:26:12,180 --> 01:26:14,700
I know that we're projecting in

1784
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:17,265
this budget an
increase in revenue.

1785
01:26:17,265 --> 01:26:21,370
I think we've got an
increase of 9.6 million.

1786
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:26,460
I just want to make
sure what information

1787
01:26:26,460 --> 01:26:29,400
do we have in terms of
Seattle Municipal Court or

1788
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,440
the appropriate staffing
to ensure that we're

1789
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,690
processing the tickets
that come from

1790
01:26:33,690 --> 01:26:36,045
the traffic safety cameras and

1791
01:26:36,045 --> 01:26:38,760
how we're judging or
evaluating our confidence

1792
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,920
that as we expand

1793
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,720
traffic safety cameras
that we'll be able

1794
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,120
to get all of the
revenue that comes

1795
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,010
from those in the
door at the city?

1796
01:26:48,010 --> 01:26:50,120
Amanda Allen: It's a good
question, Council member.

1797
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,845
I can't comment on that.

1798
01:26:51,845 --> 01:26:56,430
We can definitely follow
up maybe at a minimum

1799
01:26:56,430 --> 01:26:58,470
with the analyst at

1800
01:26:58,470 --> 01:27:01,035
Central staff that staffs
the municipal court,

1801
01:27:01,035 --> 01:27:04,335
and definitely with the
department themselves.

1802
01:27:04,335 --> 01:27:06,060
Dionne Foster: Deputy Director.

1803
01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:07,560
Calvin Chow: I don't
know the specifics

1804
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:08,790
of what's in the
proposed budget,

1805
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:10,560
but I do know that the issue of

1806
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,825
how the workflow goes
is something that

1807
01:27:12,825 --> 01:27:15,120
the other departments
have raised

1808
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,405
their hand and said this
impacts us, as well.

1809
01:27:18,405 --> 01:27:21,690
Not just the parking enforcement
officer or excuse me,

1810
01:27:21,690 --> 01:27:24,240
the police officers
and the potential

1811
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,090
to use parking enforcement
officers to do the citations,

1812
01:27:27,090 --> 01:27:28,680
do the review, and then

1813
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,510
the court to actually

1814
01:27:30,510 --> 01:27:32,370
process the claims
if it goes to it,

1815
01:27:32,370 --> 01:27:33,690
as well as, frankly,

1816
01:27:33,690 --> 01:27:38,140
our accounting staff to
handle the volumes, as well.

1817
01:27:38,450 --> 01:27:41,280
My understanding is that part of

1818
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,560
the financial planning is to

1819
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,605
provide a reserve against
those types of costs, too.

1820
01:27:46,605 --> 01:27:48,735
There is at least
some financial buffer

1821
01:27:48,735 --> 01:27:50,850
available that they could
come back and ask for

1822
01:27:50,850 --> 01:27:52,800
appropriations if they
needed to move things around

1823
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,265
to address additional changes.

1824
01:27:56,265 --> 01:27:59,205
But largely they're showing

1825
01:27:59,205 --> 01:28:01,320
a significant expansion of

1826
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,030
the school zone
program this year,

1827
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:05,895
and then with the
additional speed cameras,

1828
01:28:05,895 --> 01:28:09,030
we do expect more costs for
those departments, yes.

1829
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:11,175
Dionne Foster: Thank you. I
think what I heard you say,

1830
01:28:11,175 --> 01:28:12,630
Deputy Director Chao is that

1831
01:28:12,630 --> 01:28:14,280
while we're
anticipating more costs

1832
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:15,750
for the other departments
that are also

1833
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:17,760
involved in
implementation of this,

1834
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,070
I think you said there's
a reserve or a balance

1835
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:22,815
that they'll be
able to tap into.

1836
01:28:22,815 --> 01:28:24,690
Calvin Chow: Without
knowing exactly,

1837
01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:25,890
my expectation is that

1838
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:28,995
the size of this is
built into this budget,

1839
01:28:28,995 --> 01:28:30,510
and that's something
we'll confirm

1840
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:31,590
and try to find out to make

1841
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:33,375
sure that we understand

1842
01:28:33,375 --> 01:28:34,815
what other might
changes might be.

1843
01:28:34,815 --> 01:28:36,045
But then, in addition,

1844
01:28:36,045 --> 01:28:40,995
in the financial fund for the
traffic safety camera fund,

1845
01:28:40,995 --> 01:28:44,100
there is a reserve that
is meant to acknowledge

1846
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:45,870
that if there are
additional costs or

1847
01:28:45,870 --> 01:28:47,700
if there are additional
fluctuations, or, frankly,

1848
01:28:47,700 --> 01:28:50,250
if the revenue doesn't come

1849
01:28:50,250 --> 01:28:52,140
in as strongly as anticipated,

1850
01:28:52,140 --> 01:28:56,430
there is at least a reserve
to help buffer that.

1851
01:28:56,430 --> 01:28:57,090
Dionne Foster: That's helpful.

1852
01:28:57,090 --> 01:28:59,520
Do we know the amount
of that reserve?

1853
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,860
Calvin Chow: I don't have
it off the top of my head,

1854
01:29:01,860 --> 01:29:03,210
but I can probably find it.

1855
01:29:03,210 --> 01:29:05,010
Dionne Foster: That's okay. I'm
happy to take this offline.

1856
01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:06,300
I think that you can tell where

1857
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:07,650
my questions are headed here.

1858
01:29:07,650 --> 01:29:09,030
I just want to ensure
as we're looking at

1859
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:12,165
this projected revenue increase,

1860
01:29:12,165 --> 01:29:13,830
given that there's
multiple departments

1861
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:15,990
involved in implementing
that we have

1862
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:19,140
the appropriate staffing
and review to feel

1863
01:29:19,140 --> 01:29:20,340
confident that we will see

1864
01:29:20,340 --> 01:29:22,725
the revenue projected from this.

1865
01:29:22,725 --> 01:29:23,880
Do you think I've given Calvin

1866
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,170
enough time to
pull up his notes?

1867
01:29:25,170 --> 01:29:28,095
Calvin Chow: You did. The
reserve is 10% of revenue.

1868
01:29:28,095 --> 01:29:32,190
It's expected to be about
$3 million in 2027.

1869
01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:34,860
Dionne Foster: Thank you, Chair.

1870
01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:37,425
Dan Strauss: Thank you,
Council member Foster.

1871
01:29:37,425 --> 01:29:40,570
Colleagues, any additional
questions at this time?

1872
01:29:41,480 --> 01:29:44,520
Seeing none, Councilmember
Saka chair of

1873
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:45,630
the committee overseeing
the department,

1874
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:47,325
you are recognized.

1875
01:29:47,325 --> 01:29:49,230
Rob Saka: Thank you,
Chair. First off,

1876
01:29:49,230 --> 01:29:51,180
let me clarify something

1877
01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:52,890
because I misspoke
earlier when I was

1878
01:29:52,890 --> 01:29:54,840
saying that there was a
lot of things going on

1879
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,240
in the proposed budget for SDOT,

1880
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,490
and then I mistakenly conflated

1881
01:29:59,490 --> 01:30:04,890
the Seattle Center
Monorail fare increases.

1882
01:30:04,890 --> 01:30:08,205
That was for Seattle
Center. That was my bad.

1883
01:30:08,205 --> 01:30:12,360
The Central staff analyses
memos were circulated,

1884
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:13,770
delivered yesterday
afternoon and I read

1885
01:30:13,770 --> 01:30:15,270
them both last
night side by side,

1886
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:16,500
and of course,
they're back to back.

1887
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:22,290
But the fair stuff that's
in Seattle Center's budget.

1888
01:30:22,290 --> 01:30:28,140
In any event, I stand by what
I said, the proposition,

1889
01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:31,395
which is there is a lot still
going on in the budget,

1890
01:30:31,395 --> 01:30:37,180
just not pertaining to
the Monorail or fairs.

1891
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:45,195
Looking at the
resolution establishing

1892
01:30:45,195 --> 01:30:48,630
the District Project fund

1893
01:30:48,630 --> 01:30:53,130
Resolution 32179 passed
by council last year.

1894
01:30:53,130 --> 01:31:00,390
That was a joint [inaudible]
concurrence resolution.

1895
01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:04,020
The operative provisions
there that govern timing of

1896
01:31:04,020 --> 01:31:08,925
project delivery is Sections
1(e) and Sections 2(d),

1897
01:31:08,925 --> 01:31:13,575
basically, up to 1-2 years.

1898
01:31:13,575 --> 01:31:15,915
That's the TLDR on that one,

1899
01:31:15,915 --> 01:31:17,820
up to 1-2 years.

1900
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:22,680
But most projects approved

1901
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,630
for construction will be
scheduled for delivery

1902
01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:27,600
during the following year's
construction window.

1903
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:32,800
That represents the
worst case scenario.

1904
01:31:33,620 --> 01:31:36,390
I'm hearing from my
colleagues some concerns

1905
01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:38,220
around efficiency
and effectiveness

1906
01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:40,455
of delivery of projects in

1907
01:31:40,455 --> 01:31:45,015
this program and just other
programs across the city.

1908
01:31:45,015 --> 01:31:48,330
At least as it relates to
this particular program,

1909
01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:54,630
that was intended to be the
drop dead floor max dates.

1910
01:31:54,630 --> 01:31:58,530
I would hope that there
are a handful of projects,

1911
01:31:58,530 --> 01:32:00,600
depending on the
volume in each of

1912
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,270
the cues for each district,

1913
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:05,520
I would hope that there is
at least one or two projects

1914
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,485
that can and should

1915
01:32:07,485 --> 01:32:12,705
start delivery now
before year end,

1916
01:32:12,705 --> 01:32:16,140
because the concern that I hear

1917
01:32:16,140 --> 01:32:17,940
expressed by my colleagues as

1918
01:32:17,940 --> 01:32:20,040
expressed by their
constituents and mine as well,

1919
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:24,375
is, I approve this as a
council member six months ago,

1920
01:32:24,375 --> 01:32:25,560
told everyone about it,

1921
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,105
and now there's confusion.

1922
01:32:27,105 --> 01:32:29,730
Well, why isn't it built?

1923
01:32:29,730 --> 01:32:33,960
In fairness, to the department,

1924
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,240
some of these projects are
more complex than others,

1925
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:41,280
and there's materials
issues and all the things.

1926
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,920
Some of them are
low hanging fruit.

1927
01:32:45,470 --> 01:32:49,320
I would love for

1928
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,590
more of them to be
delivered more efficiently,

1929
01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:55,440
as well because we

1930
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:57,900
could have said whatever we
wanted in this resolution,

1931
01:32:57,900 --> 01:33:04,530
but we intentionally went
the joint route if you will,

1932
01:33:04,530 --> 01:33:09,585
but that was also intended
to be the bare bones,

1933
01:33:09,585 --> 01:33:12,660
and we love for these
to be delivered

1934
01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:16,780
more efficiently or at least
a few in each district.

1935
01:33:16,850 --> 01:33:19,275
But great program.

1936
01:33:19,275 --> 01:33:22,290
I've used it for
safety in my district,

1937
01:33:22,290 --> 01:33:26,730
and it's an effective program

1938
01:33:26,730 --> 01:33:30,060
as part of our broader set
of neighborhood investment,

1939
01:33:30,060 --> 01:33:33,285
safety investments to
address vision zero.

1940
01:33:33,285 --> 01:33:36,030
Appreciate the
presentation again,

1941
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:37,605
and looking forward to

1942
01:33:37,605 --> 01:33:39,780
continue collaboration
with you all colleagues

1943
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:41,700
to help resolve some

1944
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:43,800
of these challenges.
Thank you, Chair.

1945
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:44,790
Dan Strauss: Well said.

1946
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:46,530
Any last words or
reflections from

1947
01:33:46,530 --> 01:33:49,545
the committee table
today? Seeing none.

1948
01:33:49,545 --> 01:33:51,930
This does bring us to the end of

1949
01:33:51,930 --> 01:33:55,740
our meeting tomorrow,
October 15.

1950
01:33:55,740 --> 01:33:59,025
We will start at 9:30 AM.

1951
01:33:59,025 --> 01:34:01,440
Thank you, Council member
Foster, for being on time.

1952
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:02,940
Our next committee meeting

1953
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:04,470
will be tomorrow
morning at 9:30.

1954
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:06,150
Seattle Police Department,

1955
01:34:06,150 --> 01:34:08,235
followed by Seattle
Fire Department.

1956
01:34:08,235 --> 01:34:10,650
Community assisted in
response and engagement.

1957
01:34:10,650 --> 01:34:13,815
That is all in the
morning, supposedly.

1958
01:34:13,815 --> 01:34:15,435
Then in the afternoon,

1959
01:34:15,435 --> 01:34:20,010
the Human Services Department
and Unified Care team.

1960
01:34:20,010 --> 01:34:22,425
If you thought today was full,

1961
01:34:22,425 --> 01:34:24,930
buckle up for tomorrow.

1962
01:34:24,930 --> 01:34:27,705
On Friday, we will have
the Revenue Forecast.

1963
01:34:27,705 --> 01:34:29,580
We are not having

1964
01:34:29,580 --> 01:34:33,600
an afternoon session regarding
the Revenue Forecast.

1965
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,480
If you would like
to come and sit in

1966
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:40,080
the audience and
please be welcome too.

1967
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,250
You can text me your questions.

1968
01:34:41,250 --> 01:34:42,240
I'll ask them on the record.

1969
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,105
But we'll go from there.

1970
01:34:45,105 --> 01:34:49,120
Any further business to
come before the committee?

1971
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,930
Hearing no further
business, we are adjourned.

1972
01:34:51,930 --> 01:34:54,345
Look forward to seeing
you at 9:30 AM.

1973
01:34:54,345 --> 01:35:14,690
Thank you. [MUSIC]
